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Speaker 2: My name's MONI. I'm forty five years old. You've got
four children and two step children, and I do traffic
control for a living. A little bit about myself. I've
had two encounters with something, the first of which I'm
gonna tell tonight. Okay, So I was about sixteen years old.
I had a little brother, his name was Robbie and
he was thirteen. And we had a friend named John
that was I think he might have been six or
eight months older than I was, but he was a
Florida transplant up here to Giles County, Virginia, which that's
where all this takes place, by the way, Giles County,
and there's a We used to have a double wide
that my dad mom had like built down there. And
my father was a heavy equipment operator, so to cut
down on the costs, he was the person who got
the front end loader and came in and built the
building pad for for that and everything. And I'd say
that our our double wide had been there for probably
eight to ten months, maybe maybe a little bit longer,
maybe a year, about a year and a half, because
I just remember that we had the shovel or not shovel,
but rake rocks off the off the hillside forever. I mean,
it was just like forever. It seemed like for five
or six years. We were just raking and raking and raking.
It's just like but anyway, but we had we we
had been exploring a little bit and we had found
the right behind our house. It was this. It was
our house was pretty much sitting at the base of
like a tiny mountain. It I guess it would be
more of a hill than a mountain, but it was
probably maybe probably three quarters of a mile to the top,
and when when you got to the top, it basically
flattened out and there was some underbrush and some a
lot of oak trees up there with a lot of acorns.
That time of year was falling crazy. It was August
nineteen ninety six, and there was two ways to the area.
We called it the Bald Spot, but it was just
a name we kind of had for it. It's nothing official,
but just because basically it was like a big bald
spot on the top of a mountain. It's almost like
a Homer Simpson head or something. But anyway, so there
was an old logging road that kind of uh wiggled
its way up to the to the spot to where
we went. I'm just trying to give you kind of
a background or like a layout of the land real
quick before I really start into what happened. But if
you can just imagine, there's a holler okay down here
in the Appalachian Mountains down here in Giles County and
New River Valley that we call them holler since basically
just a valley in between two hills or mountains, but
it actually it was called Hollow Road. It was about
probably a quarter mile down from the elementary school. But anyway,
you would go down that road. My grandmother used to
live at the very bottom and her land extended on
down and that's where my mom and dad had placed
there double wide, and we had a circular driveway. You
could kind of like it was almost like like if
you were up on the road, it was almost it
was like kind of a kind of gravel, kind of
paved kind kind of road or whatever, but it was
it was raised. The elevation was raised on the road
and then like you could step four or five feet
off the road and it would go down into like
a forty five degree angle dip and went down into
this like very very small, almost like holler, and then
our building pad, you know, where the double wide sat.
And then right directly behind that was up up the
mountain in the bald spot. But to the left if
you were looking from the road, if you look to
the left, there was a circular driveway that my dad
and mom had built that had connected to that old
logging road that actually went up behind the mountain. And
that's how we would usually hike up there. So now
that we're done with the lay of the land, John
was a Florida transplant. This guy had no idea what
anything country was, anything, you know, like camp and stuff
like that. The closest he ever got to that was
like watching it on TV. But so we're talking one
day and everything, I'm just like, dude, you should come
camping with us. Man. We got a perfect little spot.
We've already got like a fire pit made up there.
We had already been several times up there with no
kind of incidents or anything. And uh, and my dad
and my mom had finally gotten comfortable enough to let
me and my brother go up there and spend the night. So,
uh so one night I called John and I'm like, hey, man,
come over tomorrow. Let's go hiking up on top of
the bald spot and then we camp spend the night
and you know, just be teenagers. You know, get to
get the heck away from my parents, which you know,
that's another story in itself, but like getting away from
that house was therapeutic. Let's just say that they were
always into it. So anytime that we had the chance
to get out, you know, we did it. So I
can't remember whether he had I think he was at
that point. He was doing like a light summer like
a summer school deal. And because the reason why I
remember that is because he had like this little bus
drop him off, and he wasn't great in school anyway,
so it makes sense. I can't it's been so long.
I can't remember if his mom dropped him off or
I'm pretty sure that a bus did. But anyway, but
it doesn't matter. He got dropped off there. It was
about probably three thirty and we got all our stuff
together and probably by four o'clock we were going up
the logging trail. And if you ever want to get
a good visual on this. By the way, I on
my channel, I'm just gonna say this real quick. On
my channel, I have a visual laid out out of
my own encounter on there. If you want to go
check it out and check out the topographical this and
that and where it's at and layout and stuff like that,
you can just go check that out. But anyway, so
back to where we're going. We're going up the uh
it's all three of us. It's it's me. I'm sixteen
at the time, my brother's thirteen, John seventeen. I'm presuming
we go all the way up this little logging road.
We get up there, we get our tents set up,
all three of us kind of parted ways and went
to go get wood for the fire for all night.
And that took a pretty good chunk of time to
get all that firewood up and everything and finally got
everything situated. And if you are looking down kind of
at the area and to the direct south would be
our double wide And the way that the tents were
kind of put out was almost like in a triangle
wherey long part was facing the south and the tip
would be facing north north of relevant to the property.
I don't know really the cardinal direction of it. I'd
have to look on Google Earth, but if you're looking
at my double wide, it would be to the north
to the tip of the point. So that was John's tent,
and then my tent was probably ten to fifteen feet southeast,
and then my brother's tent was fifteen to twenty feet southwest.
So it just formed kind of like a triangle. And
at the back of my tent is where I piled
all my wood, and it was kind of the more
of the big stuff. Rob and John got more of
the kinlin type things. But the whole day where acorns
is falling everywhere, like this is like late August, so
like you know, they're they're falling out of the trees.
My grandma or even had it was like a tin
roof building that she used to store her lawnmowers and
stuff in. And anytime we'd go up there during like
August September ish, you know, type of year, like you
could just hear them things pinging all day, you know.
And my brother he was complaining because he got hit
in the head several times. And back then he was
a little bit more chubby than me. And John me
and John was more slender, and I just remember the
sweat just rolling off of him. You know, he was
just like, man, can I I need a breath, like
just like every ten minutes. So, you know, we tried
to accommodate him, poor guy. But the night grew later,
and uh, we decided we'd had some We got some
sticks and made some skewers out of them, and of course,
like we had hot dogs up there, and we had
some marshmallows and we're making some'mores with them. My mom
had picked up some stuff earlier that day. She knew
John was coming over, so you know, so that would help,
you know, kind of have the whole camping experience or whatever.
But so at this point, we're looking at like nine thirty,
ten thirty at night, like it's been. It's probably been
dark for an hour, maybe an hour and a half,
two hours ish, because in the summertime, it don't get
it don't get dark until down near nine o'clock down here.
So anyway, so I'm guessing it was like nine thirty
or ten, and my mom and dad was having a
quote unquote date night down at the at the house.
So like, you know, even if we needed anything, they
already had done told us like, don't be coming down here,
you know, and we respected that, but I would say
it was probably yeah, say I would say ten thirty
or so, maybe nine thirty to ten thirty, and the
fire was dying down, and I just remember that my
brother had a couple of hot dogs on his skewer.
John had a couple on his. I think I had
like one, maybe one, and marshmallow I think on mine.
And I decided that we needed more fire, we needed
the fire to be a little bit bigger, so I
kind of set mine down, tilted up. We had like
some logs in front of us to where you kind
of tilt things up, almost like if you were catfishing
or something you had something to lean it up on,
but kind of to you know, leave it in the
fire or whatever. But anyway, so I turn around, I
go back to the back part of where my all
my the bigger logs and stuff were, and I bent
down to grab the lot to grab a couple of logs,
and as soon as I raised up, I hear something
coming through the foliage, like hitting every little leaf and branch,
well more or less leaves coming and it whizzed right
by my head. Like I couldn't tell you how close
it was, maybe a foot, maybe a little bit more
than a foot, but you could hear this thing coming.
It was like it got zung, you know, it was
zinged or zung how everyone say that, But uh, I'm
I'm I'm thinking at that point, I'm just like, what
the heck was that? Like, you know, the only thing
that I could think to myself was like, okay, hold on, Dad,
one of Dad's friends probably came down to the house
and they got together, and they probably sneaked up here
and they're messing with us, because that's the only thing
that I could figure because there wasn't any houses around
up up there. You know, the nearest house was further
away from our house, which was probably a half to
three quarters a mile away, so you know, any neighbors'
houses were much further than that, like two to three miles.
So I'm not thinking like any neighbors. The only thing
I could think of is Dad's like over in the bushes,
and he's probably over there laughing his butt off, thinking, uh,
you know, because he was kind of a prankster anyway,
you know, and we kind of expected, you know, little
things like that from him. But but I noticed that
it had landed in the fire. And the only thing
I can think of is is my brain tried to
rationalize instead of saying, you know what, there's probably your
your dad's probably not out in the bush, and he's
he's probably not the one throwing things at you. But
my brain wanted it somehow, was trying to twist it
around to where it was an acorn, because it's the
only thing I could figure you know, I don't know.
It was just very strange, you know that, you know,
we're up there. I got both of them in sight,
you know, John and Rob is in my eyesight. I'm
looking at them when this thing comes whizzing by me,
you know, and it goes in the fire. And I
told my brother, I was like, what inney world was that?
And he was just kind of wide eyed, you know,
and he's like acorn and I'm thinking, like, no, it's dad.
So I turned back around and as soon as I
take like, as soon as I turned my body back
around to face the darkness over to where it came from,
one more came by me. This time it kind of
went slightly over my head. But this time it didn't.
It didn't land in the fire. It landed beside the fire,
and we all could see when I turned around to
see it hit, we all could see it was a rock.
It wasn't it wasn't an acorn at all. So uh so,
at that point, my brother, I'm looking at my brother
and he like, you can literally see this boy's face
turn white because he's he's not even looking at me anymore.
He's looking past me. He's looking past me, behind me,
in the darkness, in the folly, in the underbrush somewhere,
like you can tell it's close close to looking at me,
but it looks like he's looking right over my shoulder,
and you can literally see his face go white. And
my eyes went to John one time, and his mouth
was open, and I looked back at Rob and this
thing started, whatever it was behind me, screamed. And when
I tell you the thing screamed, it's it's not that's it's,
lack of a better term, I'm sure playing the audience
and the people listening is probably have seen Jurassic Park
at least one of the movies. And if you can
get a really good sound bite or a sound clip
of a t rex doing its thing like roaring like that.
It's really close to that, But then you've got there's
some gurgle in there. There's some really kind of more guttural,
a deep kind of undertone to it. It's almost like
it had more the one vocal cord. So I'm I'm
this thing screaming, and it doesn't let up for a
good six or eight, maybe even ten seconds, Like it
was so long that I remember myself almost letting my
bladder loose, like I had to catch myself and and
not not urinate on myself. It was so scary, like
I didn't I knew at that point, at that very moment,
that that was not Dad in the bush. And my
eyes were still trained on my brother when this was happening,
and it's like he could move. I couldn't move. I'm
just sitting there. I'm trying to unroot myself. And finally, five,
you know, five seconds later, like something happens to where
I can unroot myself and move and I go straight
from my brother. I grab his hand, my right hand,
his left hand, and instead of going down the logging road,
I just went straight like I made a bee line,
like a point a to b as the crow flies like,
because I knew exactly what direction the house was and
I just turned in the darkness without anything and rant
I grabbed him and started running. And I at that point,
I'm embarrassed to say I lost track of John. Like
I the only thing I could think of was getting
my brother and myself to safety. That's the only thing
I could think of. And it was more of an
instinctual thing, because if I would I've had ten more
seconds to think of it, I would have said, John,
come on, you know, but like just I just couldn't.
It was I was so terrified, like I didn't know
what this thing was. Almost like it it felt like
it was trying to bust my ear drums, like you
could feel it. I could feel it deep in my stomach,
like my lower abdomen coming up into my chest. The
only thing that I've ever felt or heard that was
that kind of volume or whatever you would call it,
like just the way the volume hits you is. I
was at a Carolina Rebellion concert here ten twelve years ago,
and right, I mean literally two three feet in front
of these like huge big speakers, sub woffers, and they
were just pas than me, you know, and that that
was very very close to what it felt like when
the thing was screaming at us. Anyway, so I grabbed
my brother. I made a beeline down the down the mountain. Now,
mind you, there was a logging road. But to get
to that logging road, I would have had to make
probably another twenty five steps forward instead of just a
direct left into the woods down there, you know, down
to the to the house. I would had to keep
going like twenty five thirty feet maybe twenty five thirty
steps something like that until I get to the road.
And then the road was a winding road. It wasn't
a straight bee line road it would have. It just
seemed I don't know why I picked what I did,
but I just know that I knew that if I
would have, you know, I could grab him, I could
get there quick. And I was right. Now, this is
the real unsettling part here. So as I'm dragging my
teenage brother, newly teenage brother down this mountain, Okay, Number one,
it's pretty steep. Number two, there's underbrush. There's it's not
an old I wouldn't say an old forest growth, but
maybe you know, medium there was some bigger trees there.
But the main thing was there was a barble of
w our fence down there, and I knew that it
was coming up. I knew it was coming up. I
just didn't know when. And we literally ran into it
because knew we didn't have a light obviously, you know,
we're in the dark. I'm just I'm tripping, I'm falling.
We've rolled several times in this thing at the same time.
As soon as we actually entered the woods from the
bald spot down the mountain, you could feel this thing
stomping behind us. You could feel it, you could feel
it in your chest. My brother was crying, I mean
just terrified, crying, just saying, please God, please get us
out here, Please get us out here. And I looked
back once and I seen a silhouette. I couldn't tell
you what it was to this day, you know, people say, oh, man,
was it you know, was it a big foot? You know?
Was it a dog? Man? Was it a I think
it was a big foot. I'm pretty sure it was,
but I can't tell you that I've seen any kind
of details whatsoever. But the silhouette will never It's burnt
into my mind. And you could hear this thing breathing,
and when it was like following us and breathing, it
sounded like it almost had pneumonia the way this thing
was breathing, like it was just a very super raspy
breath that you could hear. And and you know, the
hair on the back of my neck is standing up.
The whole time. I'm just in fight or flight mode,
like flight mode, sorry, not fight or flat There was
no fight in me. It was nothing but flight. But
finally we get down there, we get down to the
bottom where it flattens out, and instead of me trying
the back door, I don't know, I didn't try the
back door, I guess because it was a sliding last door,
and I don't know, I don't know why I didn't
do it, But we went out around to the front.
It seems safer over there. And as soon as we
got up on the porch, maybe ten seconds later, here
comes John, you know, he's up on the porch and
we're both beaten, I mean, all three of us beating
on the door. And finally Mom comes to the door.
Dad's there right behind her, and they're just like, what
in the world is going on? You know, calm down.
I'm down. First, let us in, you know, please, God,
let us in, Let us in, Let us in. Okay, Okay.
Finally they opened the door. We're we poured in and
imediately I took the door and I locked it, and
I'm laying in the floor with my head in my hands.
I'm crying. I can't. I'm struggling to breathe. My brother
is like in this weird catatonic state for twenty five
to thirty five seconds, maybe even a minute, like he
was just he was unresponsive. Like that's how terrified this
guy was, poor poor little Rob. But and John, he's
just he just sitting in the corner like with his
knees up to his stomach, with his arms around his
knees like kind of rocking, you know, for a little
bit and forwarding them back, just shaking his head, looking
down at the at the floor. And I can just
remember like trying to tell my mom and dad this stuff,
and they are literally laughing at us, like like come on, God,
you guys, come, we told you not to come down.
This is date night. And you know, maybe you'd have
to know my mom and what kind of a hard
nos person she is to really understand, you know how
hard on us she was. But my father was a
little bit more understanding. He he tended to kind of
try to calm us down in situations like that. And
that night he tried to calm us down and he said,
he said, listen, man, I'm going to get some clothes on.
He said, did you guys leave that fire up there?
And I was like, Dad, yes, I mean no, I
mean yeah, you wanted me to put the fire out
and get you know, get eaten or and he's like, man,
there's no way, or there's no monster up there. You know,
I can't because that's the only thing I could describe
it as as a monster. A monster chases off the mountain.
And he just kept saying, Oh, it's got to be
a bear. It's probably just a bear. Just calm down.
So he went and got dressed. And he used to
have this three fifty seven law barrel with a camouflage
grip on it. It was really really cool gun. I
don't know whatever happened to it or whatever did with it,
but it was a super big gun, like for a handgun.
This thing was big. It's very intimidating. I only shot
at one time. I think I was like fourteen years old,
and like it kicked me so bad, like I didn't
have my arms locked, and it like just pow and
it went back and the hammer hit me right on
the bridge of the nose and made it bleed. And
I told Dad, I was like, no, I don't want
to I don't just keep that thing away from me, right,
never mind. Okay, So he never really pushed it on,
but that's the gun he grabbed, and so we went out.
Well okay, let me back up a little bit. So
he's asking all of it. He's like, y'all need to
get in truckle with me right now, come up here
and put this fire out and get y'all tents. And
I said, Dad, I ain't going. No, I'm not going,
And he gave me that look like you're telling me no.
You know because back back in back in the you
know those days, you didn't tell my dad no. That
you didn't say no to him because he was a
lot bigger than you, and he was a lot meaner
than you. And you know, chances are you tell him no,
then you're probably gonna get a smack upside the head. Well, uh,
he didn't do that. That night, but he gave me
a laser eye, and you know, and the and the
weird thing about it was was, you know, when I
was describing, like what it happened to him or what
happened to us up there, he was so fascinated and
my mom just couldn't. She didn't give a crap at all,
Like it went in one ear and out the other.
Like to this day, if I ask her, hey, you
remember that, She's like, I don't know, maybe, probably not.
It wasn't significant to her. But let's go back to
the story. So Dad collected his pistol, we went around
and got one of the older five gallon buckets, went
to the spiket, filled it up, put it in the
back of the old F one fifty. It was an
old black F one fifty. I think it was a
three on a comm or it might have been four
on the floor. I don't know it was. It was
like a nineteen eighty one model and it had a
ground haul gear because the summer before that he was
teaching me how to how to drive it. And he said,
all right, well you never pull out ground all gear.
And I said, well, what's that? He said, well, that's
first gear. It's really just so low that you don't
even have to push the gas on it. It'll kind
of creep up a mountain if you want it to,
you know. And I'm just like, okay, so I just
always remember that old Ford one f one fifty that
you had to start off in second gear anyway. But
we jumped in the truck, and I mean, at this point,
man like I do not want to go, He's making
me go with him. Okay, I'm in the passenger seat.
I'm slid almost all the way down into the floorboard.
You know, he's laughing at me. We got the bucket
in the back. He's got his uh three fifty seven
laying right in between us, like out not in the holster,
like out cocked and ready to go. Like So that
tells me one of two things. Number One, he either
A believed me and what I told him, or B
he had heard or seen something very similar and didn't
want to take any chances. Now, up until he died,
he never did. I did ask him several times if
he had ever ever saw anything weird or crazy, and
he never did say anything about anything. So I can't
say whether that's you know which one it was. So
we're crawling, We're creepy crawling and ground hall gear up
this logging road. Now, mind you, vehicles have not been
up this road in several years, so it's grown over
and he's just kind of bush hogging up through there
with the you know, with this truck. Well, we get
to the top and we pull up and you kind
of got to go. You level out a little bit
and then you kind of go a little bit, I
don't know, about twenty five thirty feet or so, uh
to where you can get to the campsite and boom
there it was. Uh the fire is still going. Uh
It's not you know, strong or anything, but it's going. Dad. See,
I'm on the side, my side of the truck where
I'm at is on the side of the tents and everything,
and I'm if you could imagine, you know, where the
glass meets the door panel. You know, my fingers and
my eyeballs are just barely peeking over it, you know,
scanning the scene, you know, trying to trying to figure out,
you know, it's this thing still up here. And I
didn't want Dad. I almost didn't let Dad get out
of the truck, but he was, like he said, you're gonna,
you know, leave me alone. We got to get this
fire out. So and he said, at the very least,
that's what we got to do. I said, okay, man, please, okay,
I said, but I'm not getting out. He said, okay,
he said, just he said, just just be calm, It'll
be fine. I said, okay. So he gets out. I'm
sitting there, you know, in the truck trucks still running.
He goes back, he grabs the the water and he
and he throws it on the fire and then he
gets this stick and mixes it up just like Smokey
the barrel would do, you know, and you know, stirred
it up like a big pot, make sure it was
all out. But but I do remember a specific detail.
It took me a while to remember this, but we
me and my brother before he passed away, we were
in conversation about this and I do remember a small detail,
and that was that the skewers that had the hot
dogs in the marshmallows, one was missing where I didn't
see it from the angle that I was, and then
the two were laid down with no food on it,
like the hot dogs were gone. And I specifically remember
them having them on the skewers before before that, that
thing screamed at us and I randomn hill or we
random hill or whatever. So Dad, Dad kind of hurries
up and gets back in the truck and he says,
all right, man, He said, well listen, He said, y'all
just come up here tomorrow evening and get your tents
and everything. He said, we don't have to do this tonight.
He said, lungs, the fire's out. I'll be fine. And
I said, oh, thank you, Dad, And he just put
his hand on my leg and he said, man, just
it's gonna be okay, you know. And for some reason
that really did give me a lot more comfort than
just my mom. Because my mom she just she just
never believed anything that I ever said. That's just a fact.
Probably still don't to this day. But my dad, he
was a little bit better than that. But uh, and
don't get me wrong, love love loved my dad, and
I do love my mom, but they were totally different creatures.
So the next day came, John's mom came and picked
him up. Uh, we had we had basically stayed up
all night. Now my bedroom, the bedroom window faced the
exact direction of where we came down off of that
hill and the exact direction of where the campsite was,
but only it was, you know, at an elevation. So basically,
like when I looked out my window, I could see
a dirt hill behind us, and if I was to
get like on the floor and kind of look up,
you could see up there. So I told my mom
before we went to sleep, I was like, is there
any way because we didn't have any curtains. We had
some blinds, but we didn't have any curtains at the time,
and I said, Mom, there any way we can get
something in here so we can cover that windo up.
She said, ooh, you you'll be all right. You'll be okay.
So instead of me sleeping in my bed, I slept
on the left side to where the bed was blocking
the window. John slept in the bed, and uh, it
wasn't but maybe maybe an hour because we stayed up
all basically all right, And I do remember falling asleep
at one point for it's probably like seven seven and
uh seven thirty in the morning. It was it was
just breaking daylight, and I just thought to myself, Okay, God,
you know, the night's over with. I can kind of
relax a little bit, and uh, well John came, John's
mom came picked him up, and uh I went to
talk talk to my brother about it, and he just
didn't want to talk about it. My dad was busy,
and you know, so and so and so and or
such and such an et cetera, et cetera. Uh So,
instead of me going up there the next day and
getting those tents, it took me two and a half
weeks to get back up there to really, you know,
I had to, I had my I had to have
my dad make me do it because I wasn't going
to go back up there. I planned on not going
back up there. But I think it was about two
weeks later. Dad said, hey, do you ever go uPAR
and get them tents? And I said, oh no, I
did not. So me and my brother I drug him
with me, dragged him with me, and I was like,
let's go up and get these tents. Broad daylight twelve
pm noon is you know, make sure it wasn't the nighttime.
So we went up there and there was one. Okay,
so when if you remember when I was telling you
at the first it was kind of in a a
triangle shape. You had two at the bottom and one
at the top north to south wise anyway. Well, the
one at the top that John was staying in was
maybe one hundred yards seventy five to one hundred yards
directly back past the woodline in the woods, torn up
like it looked like it had just been dragged and
then let go, maybe by a person or a horse
or just whatever been dragged back there. Rob's was probably
around five to ten feet away from its original position,
and there was two of the fiberglass poles that were
broken in half. It was ripped up. It looked like
it had been like kind of gone through. He had
a little radio that would had been smashed to pieces
in it. And then my tent was directly east of
if you're looking down on top of it again from
the same direction on the point that I was talking
about earlier. Mine was directly east. Well, there was a
tree about seventy five yards away that there was a
choke point in the tree, probably around nine feet tall,
and that is where my tent was, in the choke
point of the tree. And that the sight of that
scent shivers down my spine. And when I when I'm
telling you that we hurried up and got our crap
and left. We hurried up and left. There was a
lot of stuff that was left up there, and I personally, uh,
and my brother personally and John personally never went up
there again. That was that. So that's that's that for
the encounter. Now, as far as the psychological damage, that
was extensive, and it was a very long hard road
to kind of to get that out of my mind,
and to be completely honest with everybody, I had blacked
it out for a long time. My brain went into
a shutdown mode on that and I ended up sleeping
on the couch for the next two years because I
didn't want to sleep in that room. I had terrible nightmares.
It was almost the same thing that happened when I
had the dog Man experience. It just you know, the
psychological damage with these things are lasting, you know, and
really and that's one of the and I'm glad, you know,
that's one of the points that I want to try
to bring up to everybody out there and raise awareness
with is these things are not stories. These things aren't
campfire stories. These these things are not stories. You're a
mom and dad tell you to keep you out of
the woods at night, these things are there. They're there,
and they're always watching you. Always if you step one
foot inside a forest, there something is watching you. I
promise you. It might not be a big foot, it
might not be a dog man, but it's something. Something's
watching you. And more that more times than most, it's
probably a sasquatch or a dog man. And I can
I can say that from firsthand experience, just you know,
the feeling of being watched on that property from that
point on, and then realizing what that feels like, and
then looking back on some memories when because my grandmother's
house was if you if you remember, just a little
bit up the road from there, and I spent my
whole childhood there, so like were I was in the
woods for a long time, and I always you know,
I've I've had some really creepy, you know, stuff happen,
and some creepy experiences and some weird feelings like I've
been watched and I turned around, nothing's there, and you know,
and after that whole thing happened, that started like being
really more familiar. But see, I had a lot of
bad things happened to me in my childhood. So with
that experience paired with the other things that happened psychologically
to me, my brain just shut down and it blacked
out probably eighty five eighty five percent of my teen
years and up until I think I was about thirty
three or thirty four years old, until I walked in
and saw my brother watching Facebook find Bigfoot, which I
thought was one of the better analytical things out there.
It's kind of old school, but I think they did
a heck of a job. He was watching that and
we got into a conversation and he brought up, man,
do you remember that thing that chased us off the mountain?
In it all to you a minute, it started flooding in
on me to We're almost had a major panic attack
just sitting there like trying to process, Oh my god,
that was real. That wasn't just a fever dream, like
oh my oh no. It validated it to the point
because we you know, we had a lot of things happened,
you know, to me and my brother when we were kids,
and you know, like I said, you know when people
go through dark times like that, I think it. I
think your mind has a mechanism to want to almost
shut down and just kind of black it out, just
for fear of it being so traumatic, you know. And
I'm not saying that my childhood childhood was worse than
anyone else's in the mid eighties to mid nineties, but
I mean, you know, that's just kind of what we
went through, you know. And if you lived out in
the country and you you know, you got you, you
had to deal with things. And I think that's what
my brain did, was it was just dealing with things.
And then you know, my brother, he he's watching that
show and I come in, we're talking about it. I'm like,
oh my god, dude, you oh god, I can't believe
you're validating us right now, because that thought had come
back up in my you know, and I kept thinking
about it. I'm just like, man, was that a fever dream?
Was that a dream? Like? You know? It was? It
could have It couldn't have been, you know, because my
dad had already uh no, he hadn't. He hadn't passed
away by that point. I just never got around to
talk to him about it that late in life. But yeah,
that's you know, that's pretty much my story. Man.
Speaker 1: Life's difficult enough without having experiences like that. It's just
not fear, is it.
Speaker 2: Well, you know it's it. I agree it isn't, and
I think that there's a lot of people out there
that doesn't deserve it. But you know, the things that's
happened to me has made me a whole lot stronger
in person and character. And I don't want to say
I'm glad that I went through it, but it did
harden me up and set me up for more successful
decision making and thought processes later in my life.
Speaker 1: Well, like they say, don't ask why. As long as
there was a positive result from that, then that's a
good thing.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, and in one of those is what
I'm going to talk about later, which I'm gonna we'll
wait until after the questions part for that.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, so there's no chance that you
might forget it, go ahead and share it with us, now.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, like I said, you know, later in life,
I talked to my brother, you know, he's watching all
that stuff, and you know, it got me obsessed. I
don't know any other words to really describe it, as
like my wife says, I am obsessed with this stuff,
you know, as far as like cryptids in general, you know,
and and finding out the truth. I think it's more
of a finding the truth. It's it's a search for
the truth for me, you know, diving into the unknown
to where nobody knows, you know, because nobody has one
of these things in there in their basement, you know,
and knows what they are. Nobody really knows what goes
on their brains, you know, And I just want to
get down to the truth. Uh, you know, and a
lot of you know, the behavior patterns and things that
I've picked up in in my later life. I've kind
of all compiled it into my thoughts and theories and
uh uh into a a YouTube channel, and it's called
Unexplained Creature Encounters. It's got a bright green UCEE logo
if people want to check it out. It's got a
black back ground. I've got probably thirteen long form and
maybe sixty shorts or so. But they're basically all just
trying to raise awareness about these these creatures out there. Uh.
You know. One of my main lines in most of
my videos are you know, most stories are are camp
are you know, campfire stories or or some stories are
just uh, you know, to keep your kids out of
the out of the woods at night. But then some
things actually do leave behind psychological trauma, you know. And
and that's that's what I mainly try to focus on,
is being transparent with the encounters that I narrate about.
I have some top five rare cryptids that you know, uh,
to bring things into the mix to where maybe you
haven't heard of them before. And I'm doing some a
little bit of educating on that, you know, is as
much as I know of it anyway, and uh, I
do my due diligence and and I do the best
research that I possibly can within the timeframe that I
can do it. And and I would like to say
that all the stories that I've done on here are there,
They're spot on. There's a you know, there was a
creature siting down in Pender County, North Carolina. Uh. That
was about a guid named Tea that was on the
nine one one audio call that I did. Uh. Uh.
You know, it's got the full audio clip. I've got
Google Earth there to show you exactly where the route
was exactly, you know, or within proximity of where he
called where the creature jumped in his truck. Uh, and
so on and so and so on. Like the Big
Muddy case, I touch on that there's a police chief
man hunt in nineteen seventy three. That was a very
unique encounter. I narrated that story, and like I said,
there's a there's a couple others. I think I touched
on an urban legend, a spring heeled jack. I think
it was a UK crazy demon guy that jumped around
nine feet and ten feet in the air and slapping
people and spooking people and trying to you know, trying
to get down to the the nuts and bolts of
like what was that real or or could that have
been another person? Which I do. If you want to
watch a video, you'll you'll see that it actually points
more in the direction of a real person. One more example,
the Big Finn squid twenty years ago. That thing was encrypted,
you know, the magna pena squid more oftenly I think
it's called that. But and now you know it's not encrypted.
And that's just you know, one of the things I
want to put on there to show people that just
because you know it sounds wild and just because it's
got parts in it that you may not may or
may not believe, doesn't mean that that whole story does.
It needs to be discounted. I think that everything from
everybody's encounter should be accounted for. I think it should
be documented. I don't think it should be you know,
washed out like uh, you know some organizations I'm not
going to say the names, but uh, that I have
witnessed firsthand. Actually, you know, you give them these stories
and they're like, well, we don't like this part of it,
so they don't publish it. That's not me. I want
to put I want everything there, you know. I want
everybody to see from point A to point B to
point z, you know. And uh, and I think that
gets everybody a better outlook on you know, what these
things are, maybe or maybe even finding that one answer
to the million that we actually have about cryptis as
a whole.
Speaker 1: You do a really good job with your channel. Like
I told you before we started recording, I checked out
a couple of episodes and yeah, you're on the right track.
You're doing good things.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that, man, Thank you very much. I've worked very,
very hard on it. I'll tell you, man, when I
first started, I was the most bumbling idiot. I mean,
I'm telling you I had no idea how to do anything.
And I would like to say I'm proud to say
that I have evolved quite a bit in my production
and my storytelling and my pacing of my narration and
just all the little things you know, kind of fell
into place and I found by my groove. So I mean,
I really hope that people that are interested in this
tunes in and checks it out, you know, and even
if they don't like it, leave me a comment and
let me know, let me know what to change. You know.
I love people's criticism. The only problem I have with
a lot of people's criticism is this, they don't offer
an alternative solution with that criticism, you know what I mean.
Like they'll tell you all day like what they don't
like about it, but then they don't tell you, well,
well here's an alternative. Maybe you can try it this
way instead. That's what I want. I want that, really,
you know, I want somebody to be really down to
earth and truthful with me and say, hey, man, you
know this just ain't working, but maybe this will work.
You know, I don't know, it's just my opinion.
Speaker 1: Well, since most of them slept in the holiday and
express the night before, they're qualified to give you an
expert opinion anyway, Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. So it's a good way put.
Speaker 1: It, no doubt, so that everyone listening news. I'm going
to post a link to his channel in the description
for tonight's show. They'll make it really easy to find.
You had that textbook bigfoot encounter you just told us about,
and then you went on to have a dog Man
encounter as well, Monty. What you encounter traumatized you the most?
Speaker 2: Though? And why oh man? You know they were completely
different encounters, and you know, one we were exposed, you know,
with the big foot encounter or whatever the creature was.
I assume it was a big foot by the silhouette
and just all the behaviors and things rock throwing, the scream.
And the answer to that question is is it's kind
of complex. You know. Like I said, we were very
exposed out there. Uh, and it scared me a lot.
It really really put me in a tale spin. Now
with the dog Men encounter, if you want to tune
into dog Man Radio and check that out. We were
in a car, so you know, putting it in first
and popping the clutch, you know, that was easier than
you know, not being able to move and trying to
figure out, like which direction to go all at the
same time, you know, in a split second. So as yes,
they were both terrifying encounters, but I would say that
the first one probably left a more lasting scar as
far as like being exposed and stuff like that, but
like as far as like the dreams and just the
terror and I mean just just looking at that thing
terrified me. It was just two different kinds of fear,
I think, kind of on the same level, but different categories.
Speaker 1: Maybe, No, that makes sense. Yeah, when you get a
better look, especially when you're getting a better look at
a dog man than at a sasquatch, I can understand
why that would frighten no more.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, man, I mean, you know, I grew up
watching werewolf movies, you know, and when you see a werewolf,
you know, step step out of myth and into reality.
I mean, I mean, it's just a whole it's a
whole thing like it. It took me a while, as
you know. You know, we kept in contact after that
first interview, and I told you that I was able
to actually go back into the woods, and I mean, dude,
I couldn't. I couldn't do that for a long time.
Speaker 1: Well understandably, so you have an experience like that, now,
that's what you would expect. You were sixteen when you
had that encounter at the Bald Spot that night.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you think you're wired differently now than you would
have been if you would have never had that experience
or do you think you're the same guy?
Speaker 2: Oh? No, I'm definitely a different guy. There's I don't
I think if that had never happened to me at all,
I don't think my YouTube channel would have ever been
created whatsoever. Because really what had happened was my brother
and I were in We were musicians from the time
we could walk and talk until he passed away back
when he was thirty three years old, back in twenty seventeen.
So like when he stopped living, he basically made my
music side of me stop living, and I had to
find something else to fill that void. And you know,
this channel has really done that. And it's been therapeutic too,
I mean, believe it or not, Like sitting down and
doing all this research and finding out that there's other
people out there that have very very so more accounts
and encounters and experiences. You know, it's it's therapeutic. It's
nice to know that, you know, there are safe places
to come. And that's another thing I want I wanted
to mention that's not all I really want to do
with the channel, is what I mentioned. I wanted to
bring people in and and and get their encounters and
like encounters that nobody's ever heard of. I mean, there's
I know, there's thousands of them out there, you know,
to come forward and just email me and say hey, yeah,
I want to tell my story and and we'll get together,
collaborate and throw it down and see what happens, you know.
But yeah, to answer your question, I'm definitely a different person,
uh wor differently. Yes, I'm a lot more cautious. You know.
I think as we get older, we get more cautious.
But you know, when things like that happen into some someone,
it tends to make your anxiety almost on a kind
of a broken sort of gauge to where sometimes it's
flipping up for no reason, sometimes it's down it should
be up. So yeah, it's you know, I think I'm
a lot different than I could have been.
Speaker 1: Well, that's pretty much expected when you have an experience
like the one you had, the two experiences you had,
it's normally going to have some blowback, so that's what
I would expect. You said that you'd been up to
the Bald Spot several times before you had that frightening
experience that night and got chased down to the house.
Did anything strange ever happen up there the prior times
you'd been up there.
Speaker 2: Too, I mean, just to be completely honest, no, not
that I know of. Like I said, now, there there
might have been a time or two, and it wasn't
particularly at the Bald Spot, but it was on the
property where my hair stood up on the back of
my neck. But this had been before the encounter, so
I didn't really it didn't register to me as, oh,
there might be a monster in the woods or whatever
it is in the woods. It just kind of gave
me a weird feeling, and I would either turn around
and go the opposite way or just kind of brush
it off and go.
Speaker 1: You know, Well, it gave you a lot of trouble,
but I still think he handled it pretty darn well,
So hats.
Speaker 2: Off to you, I hope. So Rob had a lot
of scars on his shins from dragging him down that mountain.
We actually, my mom actually had to take him to
the hospital. She didn't do it until the next day,
but she took him to the hospital and had some stitches,
but in his knee.
Speaker 1: So all, I bet, yeah, you got off lucky if
that's the only battle wounds that he got. Yeah, that's rough,
coming down off the mountain like that in the dark.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and my face was all scratched up, like I'd
been poking the I several times. Like it was you know, John,
he looked hagh, He looked like he looked like he
had gotten a fight with a tornado. Like it was
pretty wild man.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure it was. I don't doubt that. Why
do you think it was that that sasquatch decided to
run you off that night, but not any of the
prior times you'd been up there?
Speaker 2: Well okay, so prior the couple times that we had
been up there before it was only me and my brother.
Now this this thought only occurred to me here a
couple months ago, But it may have been that they
were used to us being up there in that wood,
those woods, because I mean me and my brother, Like
I said, we grew up basically in my grandmother's house,
which was about three hundred yards from where the double
wide was so like before they put the double wide there,
we were all over that property, I mean, like as kids,
running through the woods and whatnot and everything, and I
feel like that that creature had gotten used to us
being there now. Like I said, it's just my opinion,
but I think I think it's what's more logically in
my brain. In my brain's telling me that when we
brought John up there, he's a different smell. You know.
You gotta think. You know, these creatures, you know, they
they their senses are probably off the charts compared to ours,
you know, back maybe maybe back when we were cavemen
or Neanderthal or you know, living off the land a
lot more and had to be more aware. Uh you know,
maybe our senses were much more heightened than what they
are now. But I figured that these creatures have very
very astute senses. And I think that it got a
whiff of him where it hurt him and just thought
unfamiliar and just didn't want him there and just tried
to chase us off there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was me a lot of sense. That's a
really good idea of that might be what's behind it. Man,
you told us about looking back behind you and seeing
that big dark silhouette. How big was it though? And
did it have an overall sheep like a sasquatch or
something else?
Speaker 2: It did. Actually, if you look on my channel, there's
I did a thing called the Oakland Creature or the
title is the most Bizarre Creature's Sightings in History. It
basically touches on the Oakland Creature and encounter. But if
you look at that thumbnail, that's really close, really really close.
But now there's one detail that I do actually remember
more than anything, and that is I could see a
glint in this thing's eyes. It was the only first
split second, but I saw it was a glint and
then weren't glowing like you know a lot of people
will say. But it was like a like when the
light flash on his on its eyes like it was.
It was prominent like it was. I could almost say
that it was glowing, but I know it was eye shine.
But but that and it looked like it had a
tuft of hair like on top of its head, like
almost like you know, some big foot encounters people will
say that they're it looks like it has maybe a
sagittal crest. I think I don't think that's what it is.
I think it's I think it may be a tuft
of hair, you know that, because it between that and
the eyes, that's what I remember most. For some reason,
my my eyes went to one spot and it was
only for a half a second. You know, I was
falling down at the at the moment, so like you know,
I didn't get a lot of detail. And plus the
light was behind it, so it didn't it didn't quite
light up a whole lot. But this creature had turned
just slightly and that's when the eyes lit up the
glint and you could kind of it was it was
almost like a three quarters way like a profile kind of,
and you could see the corner of it right eye
light up like the glint kind of go across it.
Speaker 1: You weren't able to detect a bunch of details, but
I think you deserve a lot of credit for noticing
the details that you did, So it's off to you.
Speaker 2: I wrote it down, and not too long ago here
ten twelve years ago, I found the thing that I
wrote down, and that was one of the details that
helped me remember the encounter.
Speaker 1: That was a good idea of writing it down. And
before we get out of here so everyone knows. When
he mentioned that he was a guest already on Dogging
and Encounters, he's talking about episode forty six. So if
you want to hear about Monty's dog Mean encounter, please
go to dog Me and Encounters episode forty six and
you'll be able to listen to them share that experience.
But having said that, I can't thank you enough for
coming on Monty and sharing the details of this experience
with us. I really do appreciate it, and please remember
if I can ever help you, just let me know.
Speaker 2: Well, the pleasure is all mine, Vic, you know I've
I just want to say that I listen to dog
Man Radio very very frequently, and I'm just I'm I'm
excited as I can be to be on your Bigfoot
podcast and I really appreciate the opportunity.
Speaker 1: Oh, You're welcome, glad to bring you on. Well, like
I said, thanks again so much for your time and
have a great night. That's it for another episode of
Bigfoot I Witness Radio with Vic Kundiff.
Speaker 2: If you've had a sasquatch encounter and would.
Speaker 1: Like to be a guest on the show, please go
to Bigfoot Eyewitness dot com and submit a report we'd
love to hear from you.
Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, Have a great night.