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Speaker 1: If you've had a big foot sighting it, I would

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like to be a guest. Please go to bigfoot witness

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dot com and let me know.

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Speaker 2: My name's MONI. I'm forty five years old. You've got

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four children and two step children, and I do traffic

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control for a living. A little bit about myself. I've

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had two encounters with something, the first of which I'm

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gonna tell tonight. Okay, So I was about sixteen years old.

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I had a little brother, his name was Robbie and

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he was thirteen. And we had a friend named John

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that was I think he might have been six or

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eight months older than I was, but he was a

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Florida transplant up here to Giles County, Virginia, which that's

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where all this takes place, by the way, Giles County,

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and there's a We used to have a double wide

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that my dad mom had like built down there. And

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my father was a heavy equipment operator, so to cut

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down on the costs, he was the person who got

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the front end loader and came in and built the

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building pad for for that and everything. And I'd say

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that our our double wide had been there for probably

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eight to ten months, maybe maybe a little bit longer,

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maybe a year, about a year and a half, because

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I just remember that we had the shovel or not shovel,

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but rake rocks off the off the hillside forever. I mean,

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it was just like forever. It seemed like for five

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or six years. We were just raking and raking and raking.

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It's just like but anyway, but we had we we

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had been exploring a little bit and we had found

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the right behind our house. It was this. It was

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our house was pretty much sitting at the base of

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like a tiny mountain. It I guess it would be

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more of a hill than a mountain, but it was

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probably maybe probably three quarters of a mile to the top,

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and when when you got to the top, it basically

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flattened out and there was some underbrush and some a

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lot of oak trees up there with a lot of acorns.

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That time of year was falling crazy. It was August

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nineteen ninety six, and there was two ways to the area.

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We called it the Bald Spot, but it was just

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a name we kind of had for it. It's nothing official,

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but just because basically it was like a big bald

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spot on the top of a mountain. It's almost like

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a Homer Simpson head or something. But anyway, so there

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was an old logging road that kind of uh wiggled

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its way up to the to the spot to where

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we went. I'm just trying to give you kind of

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a background or like a layout of the land real

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quick before I really start into what happened. But if

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you can just imagine, there's a holler okay down here

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in the Appalachian Mountains down here in Giles County and

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New River Valley that we call them holler since basically

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just a valley in between two hills or mountains, but

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it actually it was called Hollow Road. It was about

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probably a quarter mile down from the elementary school. But anyway,

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you would go down that road. My grandmother used to

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live at the very bottom and her land extended on

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down and that's where my mom and dad had placed

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there double wide, and we had a circular driveway. You

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could kind of like it was almost like like if

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you were up on the road, it was almost it

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was like kind of a kind of gravel, kind of

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paved kind kind of road or whatever, but it was

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it was raised. The elevation was raised on the road

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and then like you could step four or five feet

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off the road and it would go down into like

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a forty five degree angle dip and went down into

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this like very very small, almost like holler, and then

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our building pad, you know, where the double wide sat.

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And then right directly behind that was up up the

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mountain in the bald spot. But to the left if

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you were looking from the road, if you look to

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the left, there was a circular driveway that my dad

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and mom had built that had connected to that old

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logging road that actually went up behind the mountain. And

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that's how we would usually hike up there. So now

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that we're done with the lay of the land, John

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was a Florida transplant. This guy had no idea what

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anything country was, anything, you know, like camp and stuff

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like that. The closest he ever got to that was

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like watching it on TV. But so we're talking one

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day and everything, I'm just like, dude, you should come

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camping with us. Man. We got a perfect little spot.

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We've already got like a fire pit made up there.

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We had already been several times up there with no

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kind of incidents or anything. And uh, and my dad

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and my mom had finally gotten comfortable enough to let

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me and my brother go up there and spend the night. So,

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uh so one night I called John and I'm like, hey, man,

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come over tomorrow. Let's go hiking up on top of

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the bald spot and then we camp spend the night

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and you know, just be teenagers. You know, get to

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get the heck away from my parents, which you know,

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that's another story in itself, but like getting away from

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that house was therapeutic. Let's just say that they were

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always into it. So anytime that we had the chance

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to get out, you know, we did it. So I

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can't remember whether he had I think he was at

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that point. He was doing like a light summer like

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a summer school deal. And because the reason why I

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remember that is because he had like this little bus

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drop him off, and he wasn't great in school anyway,

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so it makes sense. I can't it's been so long.

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I can't remember if his mom dropped him off or

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I'm pretty sure that a bus did. But anyway, but

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it doesn't matter. He got dropped off there. It was

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about probably three thirty and we got all our stuff

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together and probably by four o'clock we were going up

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the logging trail. And if you ever want to get

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a good visual on this. By the way, I on

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my channel, I'm just gonna say this real quick. On

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my channel, I have a visual laid out out of

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my own encounter on there. If you want to go

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check it out and check out the topographical this and

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that and where it's at and layout and stuff like that,

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you can just go check that out. But anyway, so

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back to where we're going. We're going up the uh

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it's all three of us. It's it's me. I'm sixteen

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at the time, my brother's thirteen, John seventeen. I'm presuming

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we go all the way up this little logging road.

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We get up there, we get our tents set up,

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all three of us kind of parted ways and went

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to go get wood for the fire for all night.

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And that took a pretty good chunk of time to

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get all that firewood up and everything and finally got

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everything situated. And if you are looking down kind of

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at the area and to the direct south would be

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our double wide And the way that the tents were

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kind of put out was almost like in a triangle

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wherey long part was facing the south and the tip

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would be facing north north of relevant to the property.

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I don't know really the cardinal direction of it. I'd

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have to look on Google Earth, but if you're looking

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at my double wide, it would be to the north

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to the tip of the point. So that was John's tent,

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and then my tent was probably ten to fifteen feet southeast,

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and then my brother's tent was fifteen to twenty feet southwest.

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So it just formed kind of like a triangle. And

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at the back of my tent is where I piled

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all my wood, and it was kind of the more

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of the big stuff. Rob and John got more of

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the kinlin type things. But the whole day where acorns

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is falling everywhere, like this is like late August, so

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like you know, they're they're falling out of the trees.

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My grandma or even had it was like a tin

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roof building that she used to store her lawnmowers and

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stuff in. And anytime we'd go up there during like

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August September ish, you know, type of year, like you

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could just hear them things pinging all day, you know.

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And my brother he was complaining because he got hit

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in the head several times. And back then he was

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a little bit more chubby than me. And John me

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and John was more slender, and I just remember the

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sweat just rolling off of him. You know, he was

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just like, man, can I I need a breath, like

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just like every ten minutes. So, you know, we tried

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to accommodate him, poor guy. But the night grew later,

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and uh, we decided we'd had some We got some

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sticks and made some skewers out of them, and of course,

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like we had hot dogs up there, and we had

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some marshmallows and we're making some'mores with them. My mom

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had picked up some stuff earlier that day. She knew

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John was coming over, so you know, so that would help,

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you know, kind of have the whole camping experience or whatever.

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But so at this point, we're looking at like nine thirty,

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ten thirty at night, like it's been. It's probably been

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dark for an hour, maybe an hour and a half,

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two hours ish, because in the summertime, it don't get

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it don't get dark until down near nine o'clock down here.

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So anyway, so I'm guessing it was like nine thirty

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or ten, and my mom and dad was having a

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quote unquote date night down at the at the house.

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So like, you know, even if we needed anything, they

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already had done told us like, don't be coming down here,

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you know, and we respected that, but I would say

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it was probably yeah, say I would say ten thirty

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or so, maybe nine thirty to ten thirty, and the

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fire was dying down, and I just remember that my

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brother had a couple of hot dogs on his skewer.

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John had a couple on his. I think I had

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like one, maybe one, and marshmallow I think on mine.

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And I decided that we needed more fire, we needed

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the fire to be a little bit bigger, so I

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kind of set mine down, tilted up. We had like

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some logs in front of us to where you kind

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of tilt things up, almost like if you were catfishing

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or something you had something to lean it up on,

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but kind of to you know, leave it in the

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fire or whatever. But anyway, so I turn around, I

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go back to the back part of where my all

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my the bigger logs and stuff were, and I bent

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down to grab the lot to grab a couple of logs,

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and as soon as I raised up, I hear something

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coming through the foliage, like hitting every little leaf and branch,

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well more or less leaves coming and it whizzed right

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by my head. Like I couldn't tell you how close

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it was, maybe a foot, maybe a little bit more

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than a foot, but you could hear this thing coming.

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It was like it got zung, you know, it was

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zinged or zung how everyone say that, But uh, I'm

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I'm I'm thinking at that point, I'm just like, what

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the heck was that? Like, you know, the only thing

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that I could think to myself was like, okay, hold on, Dad,

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one of Dad's friends probably came down to the house

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and they got together, and they probably sneaked up here

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and they're messing with us, because that's the only thing

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that I could figure because there wasn't any houses around

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up up there. You know, the nearest house was further

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away from our house, which was probably a half to

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three quarters a mile away, so you know, any neighbors'

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houses were much further than that, like two to three miles.

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So I'm not thinking like any neighbors. The only thing

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I could think of is Dad's like over in the bushes,

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and he's probably over there laughing his butt off, thinking, uh,

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you know, because he was kind of a prankster anyway,

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you know, and we kind of expected, you know, little

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things like that from him. But but I noticed that

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it had landed in the fire. And the only thing

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I can think of is is my brain tried to

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rationalize instead of saying, you know what, there's probably your

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your dad's probably not out in the bush, and he's

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he's probably not the one throwing things at you. But

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my brain wanted it somehow, was trying to twist it

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around to where it was an acorn, because it's the

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only thing I could figure you know, I don't know.

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It was just very strange, you know that, you know,

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we're up there. I got both of them in sight,

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you know, John and Rob is in my eyesight. I'm

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looking at them when this thing comes whizzing by me,

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you know, and it goes in the fire. And I

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told my brother, I was like, what inney world was that?

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And he was just kind of wide eyed, you know,

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and he's like acorn and I'm thinking, like, no, it's dad.

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So I turned back around and as soon as I

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take like, as soon as I turned my body back

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around to face the darkness over to where it came from,

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one more came by me. This time it kind of

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went slightly over my head. But this time it didn't.

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It didn't land in the fire. It landed beside the fire,

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and we all could see when I turned around to

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see it hit, we all could see it was a rock.

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It wasn't it wasn't an acorn at all. So uh so,

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at that point, my brother, I'm looking at my brother

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and he like, you can literally see this boy's face

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turn white because he's he's not even looking at me anymore.

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He's looking past me. He's looking past me, behind me,

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in the darkness, in the folly, in the underbrush somewhere,

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like you can tell it's close close to looking at me,

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but it looks like he's looking right over my shoulder,

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and you can literally see his face go white. And

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my eyes went to John one time, and his mouth

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was open, and I looked back at Rob and this

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thing started, whatever it was behind me, screamed. And when

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I tell you the thing screamed, it's it's not that's it's,

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lack of a better term, I'm sure playing the audience

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and the people listening is probably have seen Jurassic Park

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at least one of the movies. And if you can

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get a really good sound bite or a sound clip

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of a t rex doing its thing like roaring like that.

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It's really close to that, But then you've got there's

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some gurgle in there. There's some really kind of more guttural,

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a deep kind of undertone to it. It's almost like

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it had more the one vocal cord. So I'm I'm

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this thing screaming, and it doesn't let up for a

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good six or eight, maybe even ten seconds, Like it

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was so long that I remember myself almost letting my

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bladder loose, like I had to catch myself and and

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not not urinate on myself. It was so scary, like

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I didn't I knew at that point, at that very moment,

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that that was not Dad in the bush. And my

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eyes were still trained on my brother when this was happening,

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and it's like he could move. I couldn't move. I'm

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just sitting there. I'm trying to unroot myself. And finally, five,

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you know, five seconds later, like something happens to where

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I can unroot myself and move and I go straight

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from my brother. I grab his hand, my right hand,

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his left hand, and instead of going down the logging road,

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I just went straight like I made a bee line,

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like a point a to b as the crow flies like,

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because I knew exactly what direction the house was and

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I just turned in the darkness without anything and rant

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I grabbed him and started running. And I at that point,

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I'm embarrassed to say I lost track of John. Like

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I the only thing I could think of was getting

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my brother and myself to safety. That's the only thing

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I could think of. And it was more of an

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instinctual thing, because if I would I've had ten more

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seconds to think of it, I would have said, John,

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come on, you know, but like just I just couldn't.

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It was I was so terrified, like I didn't know

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what this thing was. Almost like it it felt like

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it was trying to bust my ear drums, like you

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could feel it. I could feel it deep in my stomach,

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like my lower abdomen coming up into my chest. The

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only thing that I've ever felt or heard that was

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that kind of volume or whatever you would call it,

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like just the way the volume hits you is. I

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was at a Carolina Rebellion concert here ten twelve years ago,

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and right, I mean literally two three feet in front

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of these like huge big speakers, sub woffers, and they

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were just pas than me, you know, and that that

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was very very close to what it felt like when

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the thing was screaming at us. Anyway, so I grabbed

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my brother. I made a beeline down the down the mountain. Now,

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mind you, there was a logging road. But to get

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to that logging road, I would have had to make

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probably another twenty five steps forward instead of just a

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direct left into the woods down there, you know, down

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to the to the house. I would had to keep

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going like twenty five thirty feet maybe twenty five thirty

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steps something like that until I get to the road.

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And then the road was a winding road. It wasn't

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a straight bee line road it would have. It just

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seemed I don't know why I picked what I did,

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but I just know that I knew that if I

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would have, you know, I could grab him, I could

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get there quick. And I was right. Now, this is

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the real unsettling part here. So as I'm dragging my

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teenage brother, newly teenage brother down this mountain, Okay, Number one,

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it's pretty steep. Number two, there's underbrush. There's it's not

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an old I wouldn't say an old forest growth, but

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maybe you know, medium there was some bigger trees there.

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But the main thing was there was a barble of

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w our fence down there, and I knew that it

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was coming up. I knew it was coming up. I

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just didn't know when. And we literally ran into it

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because knew we didn't have a light obviously, you know,

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we're in the dark. I'm just I'm tripping, I'm falling.

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We've rolled several times in this thing at the same time.

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As soon as we actually entered the woods from the

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bald spot down the mountain, you could feel this thing

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stomping behind us. You could feel it, you could feel

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it in your chest. My brother was crying, I mean

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just terrified, crying, just saying, please God, please get us

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out here, Please get us out here. And I looked

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back once and I seen a silhouette. I couldn't tell

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you what it was to this day, you know, people say, oh, man,

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was it you know, was it a big foot? You know?

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Was it a dog? Man? Was it a I think

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it was a big foot. I'm pretty sure it was,

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but I can't tell you that I've seen any kind

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of details whatsoever. But the silhouette will never It's burnt

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into my mind. And you could hear this thing breathing,

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and when it was like following us and breathing, it

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sounded like it almost had pneumonia the way this thing

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was breathing, like it was just a very super raspy

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breath that you could hear. And and you know, the

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hair on the back of my neck is standing up.

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The whole time. I'm just in fight or flight mode,

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like flight mode, sorry, not fight or flat There was

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no fight in me. It was nothing but flight. But

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finally we get down there, we get down to the

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bottom where it flattens out, and instead of me trying

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the back door, I don't know, I didn't try the

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back door, I guess because it was a sliding last door,

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and I don't know, I don't know why I didn't

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do it, But we went out around to the front.

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It seems safer over there. And as soon as we

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got up on the porch, maybe ten seconds later, here

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comes John, you know, he's up on the porch and

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we're both beaten, I mean, all three of us beating

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on the door. And finally Mom comes to the door.

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Dad's there right behind her, and they're just like, what

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in the world is going on? You know, calm down.

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I'm down. First, let us in, you know, please, God,

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let us in, Let us in, Let us in. Okay, Okay.

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Finally they opened the door. We're we poured in and

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imediately I took the door and I locked it, and

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I'm laying in the floor with my head in my hands.

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I'm crying. I can't. I'm struggling to breathe. My brother

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is like in this weird catatonic state for twenty five

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to thirty five seconds, maybe even a minute, like he

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was just he was unresponsive. Like that's how terrified this

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guy was, poor poor little Rob. But and John, he's

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just he just sitting in the corner like with his

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knees up to his stomach, with his arms around his

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knees like kind of rocking, you know, for a little

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bit and forwarding them back, just shaking his head, looking

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down at the at the floor. And I can just

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remember like trying to tell my mom and dad this stuff,

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and they are literally laughing at us, like like come on, God,

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you guys, come, we told you not to come down.

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This is date night. And you know, maybe you'd have

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to know my mom and what kind of a hard

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nos person she is to really understand, you know how

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hard on us she was. But my father was a

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little bit more understanding. He he tended to kind of

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try to calm us down in situations like that. And

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that night he tried to calm us down and he said,

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he said, listen, man, I'm going to get some clothes on.

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He said, did you guys leave that fire up there?

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And I was like, Dad, yes, I mean no, I

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mean yeah, you wanted me to put the fire out

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and get you know, get eaten or and he's like, man,

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there's no way, or there's no monster up there. You know,

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I can't because that's the only thing I could describe

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it as as a monster. A monster chases off the mountain.

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And he just kept saying, Oh, it's got to be

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a bear. It's probably just a bear. Just calm down.

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So he went and got dressed. And he used to

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have this three fifty seven law barrel with a camouflage

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grip on it. It was really really cool gun. I

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don't know whatever happened to it or whatever did with it,

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but it was a super big gun, like for a handgun.

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This thing was big. It's very intimidating. I only shot

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at one time. I think I was like fourteen years old,

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and like it kicked me so bad, like I didn't

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have my arms locked, and it like just pow and

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it went back and the hammer hit me right on

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the bridge of the nose and made it bleed. And

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I told Dad, I was like, no, I don't want

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to I don't just keep that thing away from me, right,

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never mind. Okay, So he never really pushed it on,

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but that's the gun he grabbed, and so we went out.

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Well okay, let me back up a little bit. So

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he's asking all of it. He's like, y'all need to

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get in truckle with me right now, come up here

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and put this fire out and get y'all tents. And

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I said, Dad, I ain't going. No, I'm not going,

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And he gave me that look like you're telling me no.

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You know because back back in back in the you

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know those days, you didn't tell my dad no. That

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you didn't say no to him because he was a

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lot bigger than you, and he was a lot meaner

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than you. And you know, chances are you tell him no,

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then you're probably gonna get a smack upside the head. Well, uh,

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he didn't do that. That night, but he gave me

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a laser eye, and you know, and the and the

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weird thing about it was was, you know, when I

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was describing, like what it happened to him or what

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happened to us up there, he was so fascinated and

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my mom just couldn't. She didn't give a crap at all,

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Like it went in one ear and out the other.

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Like to this day, if I ask her, hey, you

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remember that, She's like, I don't know, maybe, probably not.

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It wasn't significant to her. But let's go back to

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the story. So Dad collected his pistol, we went around

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and got one of the older five gallon buckets, went

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to the spiket, filled it up, put it in the

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back of the old F one fifty. It was an

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old black F one fifty. I think it was a

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three on a comm or it might have been four

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on the floor. I don't know it was. It was

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like a nineteen eighty one model and it had a

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ground haul gear because the summer before that he was

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teaching me how to how to drive it. And he said,

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all right, well you never pull out ground all gear.

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And I said, well, what's that? He said, well, that's

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first gear. It's really just so low that you don't

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even have to push the gas on it. It'll kind

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of creep up a mountain if you want it to,

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you know. And I'm just like, okay, so I just

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always remember that old Ford one f one fifty that

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you had to start off in second gear anyway. But

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we jumped in the truck, and I mean, at this point,

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man like I do not want to go, He's making

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me go with him. Okay, I'm in the passenger seat.

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I'm slid almost all the way down into the floorboard.

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You know, he's laughing at me. We got the bucket

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in the back. He's got his uh three fifty seven

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laying right in between us, like out not in the holster,

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like out cocked and ready to go. Like So that

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tells me one of two things. Number One, he either

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A believed me and what I told him, or B

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he had heard or seen something very similar and didn't

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want to take any chances. Now, up until he died,

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he never did. I did ask him several times if

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he had ever ever saw anything weird or crazy, and

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he never did say anything about anything. So I can't

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say whether that's you know which one it was. So

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we're crawling, We're creepy crawling and ground hall gear up

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this logging road. Now, mind you, vehicles have not been

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up this road in several years, so it's grown over

474
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,559
and he's just kind of bush hogging up through there

475
00:29:02,599 --> 00:29:09,039
with the you know, with this truck. Well, we get

476
00:29:09,079 --> 00:29:12,920
to the top and we pull up and you kind

477
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,640
of got to go. You level out a little bit

478
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,640
and then you kind of go a little bit, I

479
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,440
don't know, about twenty five thirty feet or so, uh

480
00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:23,759
to where you can get to the campsite and boom

481
00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:26,559
there it was. Uh the fire is still going. Uh

482
00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:31,799
It's not you know, strong or anything, but it's going. Dad. See,

483
00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:35,680
I'm on the side, my side of the truck where

484
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,759
I'm at is on the side of the tents and everything,

485
00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:40,720
and I'm if you could imagine, you know, where the

486
00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:45,200
glass meets the door panel. You know, my fingers and

487
00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:48,480
my eyeballs are just barely peeking over it, you know,

488
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,759
scanning the scene, you know, trying to trying to figure out,

489
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,920
you know, it's this thing still up here. And I

490
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,359
didn't want Dad. I almost didn't let Dad get out

491
00:29:58,359 --> 00:30:01,200
of the truck, but he was, like he said, you're gonna,

492
00:30:01,359 --> 00:30:03,200
you know, leave me alone. We got to get this

493
00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:05,440
fire out. So and he said, at the very least,

494
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,359
that's what we got to do. I said, okay, man, please, okay,

495
00:30:10,079 --> 00:30:12,000
I said, but I'm not getting out. He said, okay,

496
00:30:12,279 --> 00:30:15,079
he said, just he said, just just be calm, It'll

497
00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:18,880
be fine. I said, okay. So he gets out. I'm

498
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,759
sitting there, you know, in the truck trucks still running.

499
00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:26,839
He goes back, he grabs the the water and he

500
00:30:27,079 --> 00:30:28,880
and he throws it on the fire and then he

501
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,799
gets this stick and mixes it up just like Smokey

502
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,720
the barrel would do, you know, and you know, stirred

503
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,359
it up like a big pot, make sure it was

504
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,480
all out. But but I do remember a specific detail.

505
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,079
It took me a while to remember this, but we

506
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,000
me and my brother before he passed away, we were

507
00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:54,039
in conversation about this and I do remember a small detail,

508
00:30:54,119 --> 00:30:57,720
and that was that the skewers that had the hot

509
00:30:57,759 --> 00:31:02,880
dogs in the marshmallows, one was missing where I didn't

510
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,200
see it from the angle that I was, and then

511
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,200
the two were laid down with no food on it,

512
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,400
like the hot dogs were gone. And I specifically remember

513
00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:19,839
them having them on the skewers before before that, that

514
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,839
thing screamed at us and I randomn hill or we

515
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:30,240
random hill or whatever. So Dad, Dad kind of hurries

516
00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:31,920
up and gets back in the truck and he says,

517
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,200
all right, man, He said, well listen, He said, y'all

518
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,680
just come up here tomorrow evening and get your tents

519
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,640
and everything. He said, we don't have to do this tonight.

520
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,720
He said, lungs, the fire's out. I'll be fine. And

521
00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:44,680
I said, oh, thank you, Dad, And he just put

522
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,160
his hand on my leg and he said, man, just

523
00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:49,839
it's gonna be okay, you know. And for some reason

524
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,960
that really did give me a lot more comfort than

525
00:31:55,039 --> 00:31:57,640
just my mom. Because my mom she just she just

526
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,640
never believed anything that I ever said. That's just a fact.

527
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,119
Probably still don't to this day. But my dad, he

528
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:09,599
was a little bit better than that. But uh, and

529
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,440
don't get me wrong, love love loved my dad, and

530
00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:16,200
I do love my mom, but they were totally different creatures.

531
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,960
So the next day came, John's mom came and picked

532
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:27,319
him up. Uh, we had we had basically stayed up

533
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,559
all night. Now my bedroom, the bedroom window faced the

534
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,200
exact direction of where we came down off of that

535
00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:38,319
hill and the exact direction of where the campsite was,

536
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,799
but only it was, you know, at an elevation. So basically,

537
00:32:41,839 --> 00:32:43,799
like when I looked out my window, I could see

538
00:32:43,799 --> 00:32:47,000
a dirt hill behind us, and if I was to

539
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,599
get like on the floor and kind of look up,

540
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,599
you could see up there. So I told my mom

541
00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:54,599
before we went to sleep, I was like, is there

542
00:32:54,599 --> 00:32:56,599
any way because we didn't have any curtains. We had

543
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,359
some blinds, but we didn't have any curtains at the time,

544
00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:01,119
and I said, Mom, there any way we can get

545
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,279
something in here so we can cover that windo up.

546
00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:07,519
She said, ooh, you you'll be all right. You'll be okay.

547
00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:11,039
So instead of me sleeping in my bed, I slept

548
00:33:11,599 --> 00:33:14,279
on the left side to where the bed was blocking

549
00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:18,240
the window. John slept in the bed, and uh, it

550
00:33:18,319 --> 00:33:21,440
wasn't but maybe maybe an hour because we stayed up

551
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,799
all basically all right, And I do remember falling asleep

552
00:33:24,839 --> 00:33:29,079
at one point for it's probably like seven seven and

553
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,279
uh seven thirty in the morning. It was it was

554
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,279
just breaking daylight, and I just thought to myself, Okay, God,

555
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,680
you know, the night's over with. I can kind of

556
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:43,039
relax a little bit, and uh, well John came, John's

557
00:33:43,079 --> 00:33:46,359
mom came picked him up, and uh I went to

558
00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:48,519
talk talk to my brother about it, and he just

559
00:33:48,519 --> 00:33:51,599
didn't want to talk about it. My dad was busy,

560
00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:55,079
and you know, so and so and so and or

561
00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:57,960
such and such an et cetera, et cetera. Uh So,

562
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,240
instead of me going up there the next day and

563
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:04,440
getting those tents, it took me two and a half

564
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,839
weeks to get back up there to really, you know,

565
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:09,880
I had to, I had my I had to have

566
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,400
my dad make me do it because I wasn't going

567
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,119
to go back up there. I planned on not going

568
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:18,760
back up there. But I think it was about two

569
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,480
weeks later. Dad said, hey, do you ever go uPAR

570
00:34:20,519 --> 00:34:23,039
and get them tents? And I said, oh no, I

571
00:34:23,079 --> 00:34:30,800
did not. So me and my brother I drug him

572
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,639
with me, dragged him with me, and I was like,

573
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,519
let's go up and get these tents. Broad daylight twelve

574
00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:44,400
pm noon is you know, make sure it wasn't the nighttime.

575
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,920
So we went up there and there was one. Okay,

576
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,880
so when if you remember when I was telling you

577
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,320
at the first it was kind of in a a

578
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,199
triangle shape. You had two at the bottom and one

579
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:03,159
at the top north to south wise anyway. Well, the

580
00:35:03,199 --> 00:35:07,280
one at the top that John was staying in was

581
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,960
maybe one hundred yards seventy five to one hundred yards

582
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:19,239
directly back past the woodline in the woods, torn up

583
00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:22,280
like it looked like it had just been dragged and

584
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,800
then let go, maybe by a person or a horse

585
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:33,599
or just whatever been dragged back there. Rob's was probably

586
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,239
around five to ten feet away from its original position,

587
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:42,000
and there was two of the fiberglass poles that were

588
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:47,280
broken in half. It was ripped up. It looked like

589
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:52,119
it had been like kind of gone through. He had

590
00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:55,280
a little radio that would had been smashed to pieces

591
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,760
in it. And then my tent was directly east of

592
00:36:00,159 --> 00:36:02,760
if you're looking down on top of it again from

593
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,679
the same direction on the point that I was talking

594
00:36:04,679 --> 00:36:09,880
about earlier. Mine was directly east. Well, there was a

595
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,599
tree about seventy five yards away that there was a

596
00:36:13,679 --> 00:36:17,719
choke point in the tree, probably around nine feet tall,

597
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,719
and that is where my tent was, in the choke

598
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,199
point of the tree. And that the sight of that

599
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,119
scent shivers down my spine. And when I when I'm

600
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:32,199
telling you that we hurried up and got our crap

601
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,199
and left. We hurried up and left. There was a

602
00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:41,599
lot of stuff that was left up there, and I personally, uh,

603
00:36:41,639 --> 00:36:44,480
and my brother personally and John personally never went up

604
00:36:44,519 --> 00:36:52,920
there again. That was that. So that's that's that for

605
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,840
the encounter. Now, as far as the psychological damage, that

606
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,440
was extensive, and it was a very long hard road

607
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,960
to kind of to get that out of my mind,

608
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:08,280
and to be completely honest with everybody, I had blacked

609
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,079
it out for a long time. My brain went into

610
00:37:12,119 --> 00:37:15,800
a shutdown mode on that and I ended up sleeping

611
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,559
on the couch for the next two years because I

612
00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:21,000
didn't want to sleep in that room. I had terrible nightmares.

613
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,199
It was almost the same thing that happened when I

614
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,800
had the dog Man experience. It just you know, the

615
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,360
psychological damage with these things are lasting, you know, and

616
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,599
really and that's one of the and I'm glad, you know,

617
00:37:38,199 --> 00:37:41,800
that's one of the points that I want to try

618
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,880
to bring up to everybody out there and raise awareness

619
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:51,320
with is these things are not stories. These things aren't

620
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,639
campfire stories. These these things are not stories. You're a

621
00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:58,280
mom and dad tell you to keep you out of

622
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,719
the woods at night, these things are there. They're there,

623
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:08,639
and they're always watching you. Always if you step one

624
00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:12,559
foot inside a forest, there something is watching you. I

625
00:38:12,639 --> 00:38:14,679
promise you. It might not be a big foot, it

626
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,119
might not be a dog man, but it's something. Something's

627
00:38:18,159 --> 00:38:21,000
watching you. And more that more times than most, it's

628
00:38:21,039 --> 00:38:24,119
probably a sasquatch or a dog man. And I can

629
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,000
I can say that from firsthand experience, just you know,

630
00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:31,280
the feeling of being watched on that property from that

631
00:38:31,679 --> 00:38:35,599
point on, and then realizing what that feels like, and

632
00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:39,480
then looking back on some memories when because my grandmother's

633
00:38:39,519 --> 00:38:42,480
house was if you if you remember, just a little

634
00:38:42,519 --> 00:38:44,800
bit up the road from there, and I spent my

635
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,199
whole childhood there, so like were I was in the

636
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,039
woods for a long time, and I always you know,

637
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:54,559
I've I've had some really creepy, you know, stuff happen,

638
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:59,239
and some creepy experiences and some weird feelings like I've

639
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,559
been watched and I turned around, nothing's there, and you know,

640
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,880
and after that whole thing happened, that started like being

641
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,119
really more familiar. But see, I had a lot of

642
00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:13,760
bad things happened to me in my childhood. So with

643
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:20,039
that experience paired with the other things that happened psychologically

644
00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:23,159
to me, my brain just shut down and it blacked

645
00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:28,239
out probably eighty five eighty five percent of my teen

646
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:35,079
years and up until I think I was about thirty

647
00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:38,440
three or thirty four years old, until I walked in

648
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:43,519
and saw my brother watching Facebook find Bigfoot, which I

649
00:39:43,519 --> 00:39:46,159
thought was one of the better analytical things out there.

650
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,239
It's kind of old school, but I think they did

651
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,079
a heck of a job. He was watching that and

652
00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:55,760
we got into a conversation and he brought up, man,

653
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,079
do you remember that thing that chased us off the mountain?

654
00:39:58,119 --> 00:40:01,599
In it all to you a minute, it started flooding in

655
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,679
on me to We're almost had a major panic attack

656
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:10,480
just sitting there like trying to process, Oh my god,

657
00:40:10,559 --> 00:40:13,000
that was real. That wasn't just a fever dream, like

658
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:16,880
oh my oh no. It validated it to the point

659
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,400
because we you know, we had a lot of things happened,

660
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,400
you know, to me and my brother when we were kids,

661
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:28,039
and you know, like I said, you know when people

662
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:32,599
go through dark times like that, I think it. I

663
00:40:32,639 --> 00:40:36,159
think your mind has a mechanism to want to almost

664
00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:40,239
shut down and just kind of black it out, just

665
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,599
for fear of it being so traumatic, you know. And

666
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,480
I'm not saying that my childhood childhood was worse than

667
00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:53,960
anyone else's in the mid eighties to mid nineties, but

668
00:40:54,519 --> 00:40:58,800
I mean, you know, that's just kind of what we

669
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,079
went through, you know. And if you lived out in

670
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:03,840
the country and you you know, you got you, you

671
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,760
had to deal with things. And I think that's what

672
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,159
my brain did, was it was just dealing with things.

673
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,400
And then you know, my brother, he he's watching that

674
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,920
show and I come in, we're talking about it. I'm like,

675
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,119
oh my god, dude, you oh god, I can't believe

676
00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:22,960
you're validating us right now, because that thought had come

677
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,880
back up in my you know, and I kept thinking

678
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,320
about it. I'm just like, man, was that a fever dream?

679
00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:30,559
Was that a dream? Like? You know? It was? It

680
00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:33,159
could have It couldn't have been, you know, because my

681
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,840
dad had already uh no, he hadn't. He hadn't passed

682
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,840
away by that point. I just never got around to

683
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:44,960
talk to him about it that late in life. But yeah,

684
00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:47,559
that's you know, that's pretty much my story. Man.

685
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: Life's difficult enough without having experiences like that. It's just

686
00:41:53,079 --> 00:41:54,920
not fear, is it.

687
00:41:55,519 --> 00:41:58,679
Speaker 2: Well, you know it's it. I agree it isn't, and

688
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,239
I think that there's a lot of people out there

689
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,360
that doesn't deserve it. But you know, the things that's

690
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,199
happened to me has made me a whole lot stronger

691
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,360
in person and character. And I don't want to say

692
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,400
I'm glad that I went through it, but it did

693
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:15,320
harden me up and set me up for more successful

694
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:20,519
decision making and thought processes later in my life.

695
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: Well, like they say, don't ask why. As long as

696
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:27,360
there was a positive result from that, then that's a

697
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:27,840
good thing.

698
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:34,639
Speaker 2: Well, you know, and in one of those is what

699
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,199
I'm going to talk about later, which I'm gonna we'll

700
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,679
wait until after the questions part for that.

701
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, so there's no chance that you

702
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,039
might forget it, go ahead and share it with us, now.

703
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,519
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, like I said, you know, later in life,

704
00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:53,920
I talked to my brother, you know, he's watching all

705
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,880
that stuff, and you know, it got me obsessed. I

706
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,559
don't know any other words to really describe it, as

707
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:04,239
like my wife says, I am obsessed with this stuff,

708
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,920
you know, as far as like cryptids in general, you know,

709
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,199
and and finding out the truth. I think it's more

710
00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:12,840
of a finding the truth. It's it's a search for

711
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,880
the truth for me, you know, diving into the unknown

712
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:22,000
to where nobody knows, you know, because nobody has one

713
00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:24,639
of these things in there in their basement, you know,

714
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,559
and knows what they are. Nobody really knows what goes

715
00:43:28,599 --> 00:43:31,760
on their brains, you know, And I just want to

716
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,519
get down to the truth. Uh, you know, and a

717
00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:37,800
lot of you know, the behavior patterns and things that

718
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,800
I've picked up in in my later life. I've kind

719
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,199
of all compiled it into my thoughts and theories and

720
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:50,039
uh uh into a a YouTube channel, and it's called

721
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:56,440
Unexplained Creature Encounters. It's got a bright green UCEE logo

722
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,400
if people want to check it out. It's got a

723
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:05,519
black back ground. I've got probably thirteen long form and

724
00:44:05,559 --> 00:44:10,360
maybe sixty shorts or so. But they're basically all just

725
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,239
trying to raise awareness about these these creatures out there. Uh.

726
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,079
You know. One of my main lines in most of

727
00:44:18,079 --> 00:44:22,239
my videos are you know, most stories are are camp

728
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,400
are you know, campfire stories or or some stories are

729
00:44:26,519 --> 00:44:29,440
just uh, you know, to keep your kids out of

730
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,159
the out of the woods at night. But then some

731
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:37,480
things actually do leave behind psychological trauma, you know. And

732
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,199
and that's that's what I mainly try to focus on,

733
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:47,320
is being transparent with the encounters that I narrate about.

734
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,320
I have some top five rare cryptids that you know, uh,

735
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:54,000
to bring things into the mix to where maybe you

736
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,400
haven't heard of them before. And I'm doing some a

737
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,119
little bit of educating on that, you know, is as

738
00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:04,119
much as I know of it anyway, and uh, I

739
00:45:04,199 --> 00:45:07,480
do my due diligence and and I do the best

740
00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:10,920
research that I possibly can within the timeframe that I

741
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,920
can do it. And and I would like to say

742
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:20,119
that all the stories that I've done on here are there,

743
00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:25,519
They're spot on. There's a you know, there was a

744
00:45:25,679 --> 00:45:30,239
creature siting down in Pender County, North Carolina. Uh. That

745
00:45:31,679 --> 00:45:35,239
was about a guid named Tea that was on the

746
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,519
nine one one audio call that I did. Uh. Uh.

747
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,280
You know, it's got the full audio clip. I've got

748
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,840
Google Earth there to show you exactly where the route

749
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:48,880
was exactly, you know, or within proximity of where he

750
00:45:49,039 --> 00:45:52,159
called where the creature jumped in his truck. Uh, and

751
00:45:52,199 --> 00:45:55,800
so on and so and so on. Like the Big

752
00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,000
Muddy case, I touch on that there's a police chief

753
00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:02,760
man hunt in nineteen seventy three. That was a very

754
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:09,320
unique encounter. I narrated that story, and like I said,

755
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,400
there's a there's a couple others. I think I touched

756
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:18,440
on an urban legend, a spring heeled jack. I think

757
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:23,800
it was a UK crazy demon guy that jumped around

758
00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:27,039
nine feet and ten feet in the air and slapping

759
00:46:27,079 --> 00:46:31,239
people and spooking people and trying to you know, trying

760
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,239
to get down to the the nuts and bolts of

761
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,000
like what was that real or or could that have

762
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,719
been another person? Which I do. If you want to

763
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,480
watch a video, you'll you'll see that it actually points

764
00:46:44,519 --> 00:46:48,920
more in the direction of a real person. One more example,

765
00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:53,079
the Big Finn squid twenty years ago. That thing was encrypted,

766
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:57,519
you know, the magna pena squid more oftenly I think

767
00:46:57,559 --> 00:47:03,880
it's called that. But and now you know it's not encrypted.

768
00:47:04,199 --> 00:47:06,199
And that's just you know, one of the things I

769
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,360
want to put on there to show people that just

770
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,480
because you know it sounds wild and just because it's

771
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,760
got parts in it that you may not may or

772
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,880
may not believe, doesn't mean that that whole story does.

773
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,599
It needs to be discounted. I think that everything from

774
00:47:23,679 --> 00:47:28,440
everybody's encounter should be accounted for. I think it should

775
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,800
be documented. I don't think it should be you know,

776
00:47:33,159 --> 00:47:36,639
washed out like uh, you know some organizations I'm not

777
00:47:36,679 --> 00:47:39,760
going to say the names, but uh, that I have

778
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,039
witnessed firsthand. Actually, you know, you give them these stories

779
00:47:44,039 --> 00:47:46,039
and they're like, well, we don't like this part of it,

780
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:51,119
so they don't publish it. That's not me. I want

781
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:53,480
to put I want everything there, you know. I want

782
00:47:53,519 --> 00:47:56,599
everybody to see from point A to point B to

783
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,719
point z, you know. And uh, and I think that

784
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:06,800
gets everybody a better outlook on you know, what these

785
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,639
things are, maybe or maybe even finding that one answer

786
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,519
to the million that we actually have about cryptis as

787
00:48:14,519 --> 00:48:14,880
a whole.

788
00:48:16,039 --> 00:48:18,679
Speaker 1: You do a really good job with your channel. Like

789
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,039
I told you before we started recording, I checked out

790
00:48:21,079 --> 00:48:24,119
a couple of episodes and yeah, you're on the right track.

791
00:48:24,119 --> 00:48:25,079
You're doing good things.

792
00:48:25,559 --> 00:48:28,519
Speaker 2: I appreciate that, man, Thank you very much. I've worked very,

793
00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:30,880
very hard on it. I'll tell you, man, when I

794
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:35,960
first started, I was the most bumbling idiot. I mean,

795
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,199
I'm telling you I had no idea how to do anything.

796
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,199
And I would like to say I'm proud to say

797
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,559
that I have evolved quite a bit in my production

798
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:53,320
and my storytelling and my pacing of my narration and

799
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,000
just all the little things you know, kind of fell

800
00:48:56,039 --> 00:49:00,280
into place and I found by my groove. So I mean,

801
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,079
I really hope that people that are interested in this

802
00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:06,880
tunes in and checks it out, you know, and even

803
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,519
if they don't like it, leave me a comment and

804
00:49:08,599 --> 00:49:10,639
let me know, let me know what to change. You know.

805
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:15,280
I love people's criticism. The only problem I have with

806
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,360
a lot of people's criticism is this, they don't offer

807
00:49:18,599 --> 00:49:23,559
an alternative solution with that criticism, you know what I mean.

808
00:49:23,639 --> 00:49:26,079
Like they'll tell you all day like what they don't

809
00:49:26,159 --> 00:49:27,920
like about it, but then they don't tell you, well,

810
00:49:28,119 --> 00:49:30,320
well here's an alternative. Maybe you can try it this

811
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,000
way instead. That's what I want. I want that, really,

812
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,000
you know, I want somebody to be really down to

813
00:49:37,039 --> 00:49:39,360
earth and truthful with me and say, hey, man, you

814
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,119
know this just ain't working, but maybe this will work.

815
00:49:42,679 --> 00:49:45,000
You know, I don't know, it's just my opinion.

816
00:49:46,159 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: Well, since most of them slept in the holiday and

817
00:49:48,519 --> 00:49:51,880
express the night before, they're qualified to give you an

818
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,679
expert opinion anyway, Right.

819
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. So it's a good way put.

820
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:02,159
Speaker 1: It, no doubt, so that everyone listening news. I'm going

821
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,440
to post a link to his channel in the description

822
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:06,960
for tonight's show. They'll make it really easy to find.

823
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,840
You had that textbook bigfoot encounter you just told us about,

824
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,400
and then you went on to have a dog Man

825
00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:17,800
encounter as well, Monty. What you encounter traumatized you the most?

826
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:23,519
Speaker 2: Though? And why oh man? You know they were completely

827
00:50:23,559 --> 00:50:30,840
different encounters, and you know, one we were exposed, you know,

828
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,719
with the big foot encounter or whatever the creature was.

829
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,159
I assume it was a big foot by the silhouette

830
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:43,000
and just all the behaviors and things rock throwing, the scream.

831
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:47,239
And the answer to that question is is it's kind

832
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,440
of complex. You know. Like I said, we were very

833
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:56,920
exposed out there. Uh, and it scared me a lot.

834
00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:01,760
It really really put me in a tale spin. Now

835
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,599
with the dog Men encounter, if you want to tune

836
00:51:04,679 --> 00:51:10,199
into dog Man Radio and check that out. We were

837
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:14,079
in a car, so you know, putting it in first

838
00:51:14,159 --> 00:51:18,320
and popping the clutch, you know, that was easier than

839
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,880
you know, not being able to move and trying to

840
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,360
figure out, like which direction to go all at the

841
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:30,199
same time, you know, in a split second. So as yes,

842
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,239
they were both terrifying encounters, but I would say that

843
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,559
the first one probably left a more lasting scar as

844
00:51:37,559 --> 00:51:39,880
far as like being exposed and stuff like that, but

845
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:45,480
like as far as like the dreams and just the

846
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,679
terror and I mean just just looking at that thing

847
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,519
terrified me. It was just two different kinds of fear,

848
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:58,119
I think, kind of on the same level, but different categories.

849
00:51:58,119 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: Maybe, No, that makes sense. Yeah, when you get a

850
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,199
better look, especially when you're getting a better look at

851
00:52:04,199 --> 00:52:06,920
a dog man than at a sasquatch, I can understand

852
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,159
why that would frighten no more.

853
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, man, I mean, you know, I grew up

854
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:15,599
watching werewolf movies, you know, and when you see a werewolf,

855
00:52:17,079 --> 00:52:20,159
you know, step step out of myth and into reality.

856
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:24,559
I mean, I mean, it's just a whole it's a

857
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:27,239
whole thing like it. It took me a while, as

858
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,559
you know. You know, we kept in contact after that

859
00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:32,559
first interview, and I told you that I was able

860
00:52:32,599 --> 00:52:36,039
to actually go back into the woods, and I mean, dude,

861
00:52:36,039 --> 00:52:38,320
I couldn't. I couldn't do that for a long time.

862
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: Well understandably, so you have an experience like that, now,

863
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:47,320
that's what you would expect. You were sixteen when you

864
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,719
had that encounter at the Bald Spot that night.

865
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

866
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,519
Speaker 1: Do you think you're wired differently now than you would

867
00:52:54,519 --> 00:52:57,280
have been if you would have never had that experience

868
00:52:57,599 --> 00:52:59,599
or do you think you're the same guy?

869
00:53:00,679 --> 00:53:05,599
Speaker 2: Oh? No, I'm definitely a different guy. There's I don't

870
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:10,559
I think if that had never happened to me at all,

871
00:53:11,519 --> 00:53:14,760
I don't think my YouTube channel would have ever been

872
00:53:15,559 --> 00:53:22,719
created whatsoever. Because really what had happened was my brother

873
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,920
and I were in We were musicians from the time

874
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:31,280
we could walk and talk until he passed away back

875
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,639
when he was thirty three years old, back in twenty seventeen.

876
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:42,239
So like when he stopped living, he basically made my

877
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,000
music side of me stop living, and I had to

878
00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:48,599
find something else to fill that void. And you know,

879
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,599
this channel has really done that. And it's been therapeutic too,

880
00:53:52,679 --> 00:53:55,000
I mean, believe it or not, Like sitting down and

881
00:53:55,039 --> 00:53:57,800
doing all this research and finding out that there's other

882
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,199
people out there that have very very so more accounts

883
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:05,679
and encounters and experiences. You know, it's it's therapeutic. It's

884
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,199
nice to know that, you know, there are safe places

885
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,360
to come. And that's another thing I want I wanted

886
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,400
to mention that's not all I really want to do

887
00:54:13,519 --> 00:54:15,920
with the channel, is what I mentioned. I wanted to

888
00:54:16,639 --> 00:54:21,920
bring people in and and and get their encounters and

889
00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:25,639
like encounters that nobody's ever heard of. I mean, there's

890
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,480
I know, there's thousands of them out there, you know,

891
00:54:28,519 --> 00:54:31,159
to come forward and just email me and say hey, yeah,

892
00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:34,760
I want to tell my story and and we'll get together,

893
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,159
collaborate and throw it down and see what happens, you know.

894
00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:44,920
But yeah, to answer your question, I'm definitely a different person,

895
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:50,920
uh wor differently. Yes, I'm a lot more cautious. You know.

896
00:54:51,159 --> 00:54:53,800
I think as we get older, we get more cautious.

897
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,519
But you know, when things like that happen into some someone,

898
00:54:59,159 --> 00:55:05,840
it tends to make your anxiety almost on a kind

899
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:12,079
of a broken sort of gauge to where sometimes it's

900
00:55:12,119 --> 00:55:15,079
flipping up for no reason, sometimes it's down it should

901
00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:19,000
be up. So yeah, it's you know, I think I'm

902
00:55:19,039 --> 00:55:20,840
a lot different than I could have been.

903
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,119
Speaker 1: Well, that's pretty much expected when you have an experience

904
00:55:25,199 --> 00:55:27,760
like the one you had, the two experiences you had,

905
00:55:28,159 --> 00:55:31,360
it's normally going to have some blowback, so that's what

906
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,480
I would expect. You said that you'd been up to

907
00:55:34,519 --> 00:55:37,239
the Bald Spot several times before you had that frightening

908
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,159
experience that night and got chased down to the house.

909
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,199
Did anything strange ever happen up there the prior times

910
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:45,239
you'd been up there.

911
00:55:48,079 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: Too, I mean, just to be completely honest, no, not

912
00:55:51,119 --> 00:55:54,840
that I know of. Like I said, now, there there

913
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,760
might have been a time or two, and it wasn't

914
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,719
particularly at the Bald Spot, but it was on the

915
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,519
property where my hair stood up on the back of

916
00:56:04,559 --> 00:56:07,400
my neck. But this had been before the encounter, so

917
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,159
I didn't really it didn't register to me as, oh,

918
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,519
there might be a monster in the woods or whatever

919
00:56:13,559 --> 00:56:15,760
it is in the woods. It just kind of gave

920
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,400
me a weird feeling, and I would either turn around

921
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,480
and go the opposite way or just kind of brush

922
00:56:20,519 --> 00:56:21,119
it off and go.

923
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,199
Speaker 1: You know, Well, it gave you a lot of trouble,

924
00:56:24,199 --> 00:56:26,559
but I still think he handled it pretty darn well,

925
00:56:26,679 --> 00:56:28,079
So hats.

926
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 2: Off to you, I hope. So Rob had a lot

927
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:35,039
of scars on his shins from dragging him down that mountain.

928
00:56:35,119 --> 00:56:37,320
We actually, my mom actually had to take him to

929
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,639
the hospital. She didn't do it until the next day,

930
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,000
but she took him to the hospital and had some stitches,

931
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:42,800
but in his knee.

932
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: So all, I bet, yeah, you got off lucky if

933
00:56:46,039 --> 00:56:49,480
that's the only battle wounds that he got. Yeah, that's rough,

934
00:56:49,519 --> 00:56:51,519
coming down off the mountain like that in the dark.

935
00:56:51,679 --> 00:56:55,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, and my face was all scratched up, like I'd

936
00:56:55,159 --> 00:56:58,960
been poking the I several times. Like it was you know, John,

937
00:56:59,039 --> 00:57:01,920
he looked hagh, He looked like he looked like he

938
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,679
had gotten a fight with a tornado. Like it was

939
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:06,599
pretty wild man.

940
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure it was. I don't doubt that. Why

941
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,199
do you think it was that that sasquatch decided to

942
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,519
run you off that night, but not any of the

943
00:57:15,559 --> 00:57:17,440
prior times you'd been up there?

944
00:57:18,159 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 2: Well okay, so prior the couple times that we had

945
00:57:24,039 --> 00:57:28,280
been up there before it was only me and my brother.

946
00:57:29,239 --> 00:57:32,199
Now this this thought only occurred to me here a

947
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:36,280
couple months ago, But it may have been that they

948
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,440
were used to us being up there in that wood,

949
00:57:38,719 --> 00:57:41,159
those woods, because I mean me and my brother, Like

950
00:57:41,199 --> 00:57:45,719
I said, we grew up basically in my grandmother's house,

951
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,360
which was about three hundred yards from where the double

952
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,599
wide was so like before they put the double wide there,

953
00:57:51,719 --> 00:57:54,599
we were all over that property, I mean, like as kids,

954
00:57:54,679 --> 00:57:58,079
running through the woods and whatnot and everything, and I

955
00:57:58,159 --> 00:58:03,639
feel like that that creature had gotten used to us

956
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,239
being there now. Like I said, it's just my opinion,

957
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:11,719
but I think I think it's what's more logically in

958
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,840
my brain. In my brain's telling me that when we

959
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,760
brought John up there, he's a different smell. You know.

960
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,000
You gotta think. You know, these creatures, you know, they

961
00:58:20,159 --> 00:58:24,480
they their senses are probably off the charts compared to ours,

962
00:58:24,519 --> 00:58:28,360
you know, back maybe maybe back when we were cavemen

963
00:58:28,639 --> 00:58:31,199
or Neanderthal or you know, living off the land a

964
00:58:31,239 --> 00:58:34,800
lot more and had to be more aware. Uh you know,

965
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,360
maybe our senses were much more heightened than what they

966
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,559
are now. But I figured that these creatures have very

967
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:48,880
very astute senses. And I think that it got a

968
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:54,559
whiff of him where it hurt him and just thought

969
00:58:54,639 --> 00:58:57,239
unfamiliar and just didn't want him there and just tried

970
00:58:57,239 --> 00:58:58,440
to chase us off there.

971
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was me a lot of sense. That's a

972
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,800
really good idea of that might be what's behind it. Man,

973
00:59:05,679 --> 00:59:08,079
you told us about looking back behind you and seeing

974
00:59:08,119 --> 00:59:12,159
that big dark silhouette. How big was it though? And

975
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,159
did it have an overall sheep like a sasquatch or

976
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:15,960
something else?

977
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 2: It did. Actually, if you look on my channel, there's

978
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:26,000
I did a thing called the Oakland Creature or the

979
00:59:26,039 --> 00:59:29,440
title is the most Bizarre Creature's Sightings in History. It

980
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:33,920
basically touches on the Oakland Creature and encounter. But if

981
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:38,679
you look at that thumbnail, that's really close, really really close.

982
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:43,079
But now there's one detail that I do actually remember

983
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,320
more than anything, and that is I could see a

984
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,119
glint in this thing's eyes. It was the only first

985
00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:54,440
split second, but I saw it was a glint and

986
00:59:54,679 --> 00:59:56,480
then weren't glowing like you know a lot of people

987
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,239
will say. But it was like a like when the

988
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:03,320
light flash on his on its eyes like it was.

989
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,519
It was prominent like it was. I could almost say

990
01:00:07,559 --> 01:00:09,840
that it was glowing, but I know it was eye shine.

991
01:00:10,679 --> 01:00:14,000
But but that and it looked like it had a

992
01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:17,920
tuft of hair like on top of its head, like

993
01:00:18,039 --> 01:00:22,719
almost like you know, some big foot encounters people will

994
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,559
say that they're it looks like it has maybe a

995
01:00:26,599 --> 01:00:31,760
sagittal crest. I think I don't think that's what it is.

996
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,679
I think it's I think it may be a tuft

997
01:00:34,719 --> 01:00:38,280
of hair, you know that, because it between that and

998
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,119
the eyes, that's what I remember most. For some reason,

999
01:00:41,159 --> 01:00:43,360
my my eyes went to one spot and it was

1000
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,320
only for a half a second. You know, I was

1001
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:51,280
falling down at the at the moment, so like you know,

1002
01:00:52,119 --> 01:00:53,960
I didn't get a lot of detail. And plus the

1003
01:00:54,039 --> 01:00:58,320
light was behind it, so it didn't it didn't quite

1004
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,800
light up a whole lot. But this creature had turned

1005
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,760
just slightly and that's when the eyes lit up the

1006
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,800
glint and you could kind of it was it was

1007
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:13,920
almost like a three quarters way like a profile kind of,

1008
01:01:14,159 --> 01:01:17,719
and you could see the corner of it right eye

1009
01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:21,719
light up like the glint kind of go across it.

1010
01:01:22,719 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: You weren't able to detect a bunch of details, but

1011
01:01:26,159 --> 01:01:28,519
I think you deserve a lot of credit for noticing

1012
01:01:28,599 --> 01:01:31,719
the details that you did, So it's off to you.

1013
01:01:32,559 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: I wrote it down, and not too long ago here

1014
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,159
ten twelve years ago, I found the thing that I

1015
01:01:40,199 --> 01:01:42,199
wrote down, and that was one of the details that

1016
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,039
helped me remember the encounter.

1017
01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: That was a good idea of writing it down. And

1018
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,760
before we get out of here so everyone knows. When

1019
01:01:54,239 --> 01:01:56,760
he mentioned that he was a guest already on Dogging

1020
01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:00,480
and Encounters, he's talking about episode forty six. So if

1021
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,119
you want to hear about Monty's dog Mean encounter, please

1022
01:02:03,119 --> 01:02:05,880
go to dog Me and Encounters episode forty six and

1023
01:02:06,239 --> 01:02:08,639
you'll be able to listen to them share that experience.

1024
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,239
But having said that, I can't thank you enough for

1025
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,280
coming on Monty and sharing the details of this experience

1026
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,639
with us. I really do appreciate it, and please remember

1027
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,960
if I can ever help you, just let me know.

1028
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 2: Well, the pleasure is all mine, Vic, you know I've

1029
01:02:26,079 --> 01:02:28,800
I just want to say that I listen to dog

1030
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:35,639
Man Radio very very frequently, and I'm just I'm I'm

1031
01:02:35,679 --> 01:02:38,800
excited as I can be to be on your Bigfoot

1032
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,840
podcast and I really appreciate the opportunity.

1033
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: Oh, You're welcome, glad to bring you on. Well, like

1034
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,360
I said, thanks again so much for your time and

1035
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:59,199
have a great night. That's it for another episode of

1036
01:02:59,199 --> 01:03:02,199
Bigfoot I Witness Radio with Vic Kundiff.

1037
01:03:02,639 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 2: If you've had a sasquatch encounter and would.

1038
01:03:05,039 --> 01:03:07,039
Speaker 1: Like to be a guest on the show, please go

1039
01:03:07,119 --> 01:03:10,960
to Bigfoot Eyewitness dot com and submit a report we'd

1040
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,039
love to hear from you.

1041
01:03:13,079 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, Have a great night.