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Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans? Welcome to season three,

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episode fifty.

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Speaker 2: Two of clip If. I am Chuck Mackler joined by

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Adam Osen. We got Will Updyke with a wide angle lens.

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So if you're only listening to this podcast, you can

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watch us at YouTube dot com slash at Clippers podcast

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to season new angle.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it changes next time.

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Speaker 2: Who knows we're gonna change next time. Let's level set

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it'll be changed next episode. Uh, we're gonna be talking

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the Kahi game winner obviously, the upcoming back to back,

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and then kind of a daunting question that I was

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asked on a different podcast that I'm gonna make these

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two guys answer before we.

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Speaker 1: Get into that. Will, how are you doing? Adam?

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Speaker 2: How are you doing after that scintillating game against the

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Sacramento Kings.

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Speaker 1: Will, we'll start with you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was a get right weekend.

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Speaker 1: Things.

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Speaker 3: Things are on the up and up. Uh, you know,

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both of the Clippers and me personally, Spring is right.

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Speaker 1: Around the corner.

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Speaker 3: Things will turn around, all right, It's gonna be better.

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Speaker 1: Will As.

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Speaker 2: Will As routinely said this is our year, but he

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seems even more impassionate about it being our year, Adam,

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how are you doing what a game? Had to have

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been a fun thing to talk about with the callers

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after the game last night.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was a good time. Clipper Nation was

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stoked the first real game winner buzzer beater at into

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a dome when it came at the left hand of

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Kawhi Leonard. Uh, pretty awesome. I had my doubts when

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the shot went up, but he's got that magic touch

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when it comes to a game winner that bounces around

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like a Plinko chip, he finds a way to get

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to full.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as soon as I as soon as it bounced once,

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I went, oh no, and then it bounced three more

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times and I was like, well, this of course this

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is going in. That's the only way these things fall

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for Kawhi.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Just obviously there was a lot of we're talking about

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kind of the game as a whole, but it was

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so nice to see that confidence a the trust and

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the team and we never really thought that went away,

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but it's nice to see it fully on display since

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Kawhi has been back. For him to take that shot,

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especially left handed.

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Speaker 4: Especially in a game where he was six of eighteen

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before he took that shot, and James Harden had made

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a lot of big ones, but Kawhi did get that

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in one when they were down seven with about a

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minute forty left in the fourth quarter that also fell somehow,

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and he kind of shrugged, like, that's the toughest shot

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I got all night and that's the one that drops

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because he was missing a lot of good looks. So

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I also think it's meaningful that they went to him

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down the stretch. That was their guy, their go to

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player in a situation like this, and he perfectly ran

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out the clock and made sure that the Kings would

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have no time if that ball dropped through to come

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back at him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I gotta be real, you know, I was

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glad the ball was in Kawhi's hands. What was your

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confidence level at in that final shot it being in

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his hands as the clock was ticking down, Charles, I'll

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start with you. Where were you at just from a

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personal confidence level for the game winner?

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Speaker 2: That's a good question. I did have a little bit

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of what the hell are we doing here? That was

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kind of in my head a little bit because we've

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seen those possessions before from the Clippers team, right where

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like like no movement whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: I was just I was tense en up.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I love Kawhi.

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Speaker 3: I know he's mister big.

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Speaker 1: Shot, but yeah, I was in the same boat.

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Speaker 2: I was kind of like, okay, Like I mean, this

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is either going to be classic ISO heroics by Kawhi.

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Everyone's gonna complain that we weren't doing anything and there

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wasn't a set play or something like that.

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Speaker 1: So I was for sure a little nervous.

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Speaker 2: But like I said, as soon as it hit the

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rim more than once, I was like, oh, game over,

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go back to the big tomato.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like the secret password to get to fall

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through the hoop and has to hit the rim a

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few times. Yeah, it's it's a secret knock on the door.

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If he had missed that shot, there would have been

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some harsh criticism on Kawhi on the play being run,

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Like the outrage would have been loud. What I would

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have at least said, Look, they need Kawhi to be

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at his best for this team to peak, and to

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do that, you got in still confidence and you got

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to play through him. You got to show that he

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is your superstar and he's going to be taking these shots.

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He's making fifty million dollars. It's usually how it works.

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There's typically hero ball in the NBA from every team

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late in games that it's usually the case, and I'm hoping.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I did have some concerns initially because I was like, Oh,

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he's gonna run down the clock here and settle for

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the final shot. This is it. But I also thought

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that the reason they were doing that instead of just

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going for whatever the best shot was available, time on

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the clock left be damned, was because I don't think

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Kawai would have been able to play in double overtime.

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Speaker 1: No. Yeah, I think they were.

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Speaker 4: Saying this is either going going and we're losing the

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game right now, Like this is it. So I understood it.

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I think there was logic and rationale to it, and

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Gauy is infinitely skilled enough to get that to go.

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So I was happy, but I did have concerns because

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I didn't I didn't want to check the numbers earlier today,

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but I know him last twenty four seconds of a

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game within three points as a Clipper at least, it

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hasn't been great those attempts, but last night's went, and

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I think it could do a lot for Kawhi and

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the team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like what you tweeted too, kind of wondering,

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like as I guess, we're gonna find out if Kwai

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plays an overtime, which was such a big question, and

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then he played very well and overtime obviously he got

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he got the win for the Clippers, But the whole

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thing was very encouraging, like just kind of the game.

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Speaker 1: As a whole. Hope Tyler's back is okay.

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Speaker 2: Brian Shaw had to coach the game because Tyler's back

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was acting up, which sounds like a damn nightmare.

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Speaker 4: This if you gotta fly out on the road afterwards,

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is he gonna be with him?

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Speaker 1: Damn?

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Speaker 4: We haven't heard otherwise.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, no injury.

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Speaker 2: Well, there was the injury report, but that was Tyler

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wasn't on it, thankfully.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes if it's back spasms or something like that, it

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could just shuttled down.

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Speaker 1: He could be fine.

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Speaker 4: I left that game last year and everybody was freaking out.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that was so weird.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, will anything else on Kawhi before we talk about

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some of the other highlights from this game, because there were,

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I mean, it was a weird game. It was kind

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of gross, But they found the way to win, which

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is good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this could be very much a birthing

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game in the words of Adam Oslin, which you know

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that this could instill something new for this Clippers team.

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And Kawhi postgame, I mean talked about his confidence. You know,

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he kind of gave the generic answer that he's gonna

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shoot through stuff. But it's still good to hear him

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approaching the game with that confidence because I think, like

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numbers aside, you know, since the return, I do feel

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like at times he has looked like a shadow of

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himself on the court. So to see him come up

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in a in a big moment is definitely a step

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in the right direction. And to see that internally, you know,

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like he still is of the mindset that we need

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him to be at as you know, the best player

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for this team. So there was a lot of really

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encouraging stuff. But I mean, like Adam kind of touched

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on like, if we're being honest, that was like one

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rim bounce away from some time to ask some very

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serious questions for this team. I don't want to be

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overly dramatic about it, but like you you kind of

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have to like what, you know, what do you do

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at that.

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Speaker 1: Point, it's it's.

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Speaker 3: Gets even tighter in the West, and you know, if

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if you're who's supposed to be your best player isn't

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able to deliver in a big moment, you kind of

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got some other questions. So it was a huge win,

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but I do wonder, you know, the sliding doors moment

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is is a little is a little scary, not to again,

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not to be overly dramatic.

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Speaker 1: Adam anything.

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Speaker 2: Last on Kawhi specifically before we talk about Zoo Harden

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and Derek Jones Junior.

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Speaker 4: I think sometimes with Kawhi it's hard to differentiate between

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is he not moving well or is he just missing

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shots that he normally makes and there's nothing really to

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worry about. They're going to fall eventually, and it's still

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early in the process. This was game twenty two for him.

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Him and what game three or game four off of

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the minutes restriction even though there still is one. He

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mentioned that post game sounded like it's around thirty six,

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but they've gone so there's some flexibility there. So it's yeah,

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it is hard to measure where he's at because I

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thought he looked really good the second game against the Lakers,

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and I thought he looked really good. For three quarters

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against Phoenix he looked great, and then the last couple

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of games out there, he didn't look as good. He's

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been in a real funk from the outside three point

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percentage wise, he has tanked his three point shooting in

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like two games. I think he's like two for his

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last sixteen or maybe even worse.

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Speaker 1: He was one for seven last night. I think something

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like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like he went from shooting I think thirty nine

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percent to now thirty five percent. Yeah, he is. He's

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three for his last nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Not ideal. Yeah, some numbers.

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Speaker 4: That was something I was kind of holding on to

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and looking at the lift and saying, three point shots

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are falling for him. But then that starts to go

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and if he's not hitting mid ranges at the same

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level we're accustomed to, then I'd start to get really worried.

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So we do need to see better from him in

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tomorrow's game overall, from an efficiency stamdpole.

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Speaker 2: Yes, because he's not going to be playing. It is

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a back to back, so he's not playing on Wednesday.

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Other people had good games. Zoo had twenty two and fourteen,

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Harden had twenty nine to nine and eleven. I thought

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Derek Jones Junior was huge in this game. Obviously zoo

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and hard and more important too, but it was like,

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you see what Derek Jones Junior brings to this team

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athletically and just kind of utility wise. Like I know,

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we kind of knew this going about him, but he's

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really shown he brings everything this Clippers team needs, especially

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when he has to come off the bench. I thought

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it was one of his better games off the bench

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impact wise.

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Speaker 4: He scored as many points as I did. They both

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at seventeen and on the season. Now, DJ is right

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below shooting thirty percent from the outside, so he's kind

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of well above league average. With what eighteen games left,

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there's a good chance he's going to finish above league

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average from three this season, which is really all you needed,

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Like that's all you could hope for. That's great because

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everything else he does is awesome. It's slashing to the hoop,

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the athleticism, the defense. If he is knocking down threes

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in a similar way that he was last year in

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the playoffs for the Dallas Mavericks. That was the entire

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conversation about him coming in. Will any of that transfer

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and for the most part it has will.

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Speaker 2: Did we have any weird bets about Derek Jones Jenior's

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three point percentage we have to eat any hats or

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I feel like we were

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both pretty confident on it. I didn't think it would

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maintain necessarily at the playoff at his playoff clip last year,

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which I don't have right in front of me, But

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I mean, he's he's a decent shooter, and we talked

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about this one or two episodes ago. But you do

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feel a lot less nervous with with the ball in

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his hands beyond the arc than Chris done and and

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and that is huge for the Clippers, especially when they

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go to these three minute plus stretches with no scoring, which.

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Speaker 1: They have one against the Kings.

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Speaker 2: There was a while, old Buddy, it started that first

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was it? The The third quarter started off so well,

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and then the things just kind of stalled out and

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very kind of pitifully looking. Zoo had another huge game.

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it's really physical big. He does that little hit push

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that Jim Jackson and Brian Stemen were talking about a

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lot where when he goes up for that little push shot,

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he can push him further out basically, but he handled

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it very well. Harden was hardened more fantastic stuff. Their

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people were upset about that. All we're gonna say for

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like this is what he does.

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Speaker 1: I like we needed every single one of it.

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the runner in transition where they just said, to hell

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with the clock the case, have another opportunity out here.

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I'm gonna take what the defense gives us right now,

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and he got that quick bucket in transition led to

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Zach Levine thankfully missing that shot that I definitely thought

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was going in. But James James was huge, and then

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he had a three and another little floater in ot

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and I think some free throws. And by the way,

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the Clippers just won a game where they missed ten

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free throws. They went I think fifteen or twenty five.

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Speaker 3: That is going on shooting, Like what's going on with

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the free throw shooting right now?

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that would have been the thing. Underscored highlighted circled, like,

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how do you blow ten free throws in this game?

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Speaker 3: Are you making them on wind sprints? When they met?

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the free throw practice slider or.

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Speaker 1: Whatever they're doing.

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Speaker 2: No, Harden was phenomenal, but like I didn't mean that

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in a weird way, but like he's he does this

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for the Like this is just a thing that Harden

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does him and started off incredibly cold.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they managed to turn around.

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Speaker 3: But like, yeah, it's just good with the extended norm outage, right,

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like we thought we were going to have him back,

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Harden is able to do, Like, I don't know, I

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still kind of mind blowing, like for where he is

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the age wise, where he is in his career, where

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people thought he was when he came here, and I

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just think that he's answered a lot of questions and

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he's been I mean, he's been incredible. He has been

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the all star for the Clippers, uh and continues to be.

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So Thanks Harden, thank.

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Speaker 1: You, thank you James.

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Speaker 2: People were upset roch wise that, but Toom wasn't in

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the fourth quarter when a mere coffee was in. A

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mere coffee did end up getting a shot late that

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I didn't like that he took. I thought that Kawhi

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maybe could have taken a shot, or Zoo maybe could

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have not passed. I think the Clippers were down one.

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Zoo got the ball in, dished it to Kawi, Kawai

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passed it to a mirror and a mirror missed the three.

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fine with Zoo taking that shot or Kauwi taking the three.

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Just interesting it fell to a mirror. How are we

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feel about these rotations? Is that something we're not worried

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about yet? Because the set wrote like because norms not available,

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so all the rotations are thrown off. If it would

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have lost, it would have been a lot louder of

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a group of people upset.

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Speaker 4: How many minutes did Niko wouldsom end up at in

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that game? Because he played what thirty four of the game.

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Speaker 1: Before played twenty eight and he was three for three

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with four boards in a block.

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Speaker 4: The hot three point shooting from him recently has been

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nice to see. Uh, I don't know, I I get

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some of the gripe stuff with and playing twenty seven minutes,

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but they don't have a lot of different avenues to turn,

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and that's pretty decent chunk of minutes for Niko Batoom

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coming off again, we just had thirty four. I get

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the criticism. I also don't think it's crazy the way

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they used him in that game.

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Speaker 2: It's like a wrinkle. It's not like a big issue,

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you know what I mean. Like it's just like it's

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also saving him for later in the season. I know

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we're not too far to the end of it, but

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he is still an older guy.

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probably more than Nico should be playing for this team. Obviously,

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norm is out for rotation. Yeah it's not our normal rotation,

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but I mean, I'd always love to see more Nico

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on the floor, But I think twenty eight twenty eight

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is a reasonable expectation to get from him.

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Speaker 1: And Simmons was out.

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Speaker 2: That's the other part that messes up with the Nico

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minutes too, Right, if Simmons is in, if Simmons still

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have no word on no word, it is me. But

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him being back also changes that where I think Nico

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gets some of thurs those Clutcher minutes that maybe a

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Speaker 4: Get I wonder if they're trying to save them some

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for the Zion matchup coming up. You might have to

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get that's true Zion, which is not gonna be easy.

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Speaker 1: Did will go? Will hurt the Zion slander and he said,

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I'm here.

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Speaker 2: Coming, Yeah, all right, so the Clipper. I also one

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of the things I loved about this game. They found

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a way to win an ugly game. This was a

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gross game of basketball. This was not an exactly acthetically

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pleasing game of basketball.

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Speaker 4: The turnovers were really low though from both teams. Like

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I thought, in some ways it was well played. There

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were shots that were missed that both teams would like back.

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going back and forth, they're both hitting shots. Uh. The

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replays that were plentiful down the stretch of the game

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were tough, but I felt like they got him right.

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were saying about the game earlier today. They're pissed about

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the retracted foul on dj On DeMar DeRozan corner on

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the left wing that turned into a jump ball that

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Devisa Zubas won for them. They think that was a

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screw job that he got him on the wrist. That

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shouldn't have happened. I thought it was almost close enough

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where DeRozan kicked his legs out. Carlo and I talked

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about this happened, that it might have been an offensive

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foul by the way he kicked his legs out.

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Speaker 1: De Rosen I think that's I.

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Speaker 4: I didn't hate that call or think, you know, the

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Kings got screwed. No, I don't think the Clippers got

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screwed when they said that Demart DeRozan long two pointer

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even though the shot clock malfunction and they reset it,

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even though it didn't touch the rim because Kawhi block

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balance unis it's still was it within the parameters of

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twenty four seconds when he ended up taking that shot.

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So there were some stalls in the game that maybe

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hurt the flow for a second, But I don't know.

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It felt like a playoff type game to me in

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a lot of ways.

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Speaker 2: The vibe was very much playoff vives for sure, which

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is what it needed to be, right because now the

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Clippers have the tiebreaker over the Kings, so we're effectively

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two and a half.

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Speaker 1: Games ahead of them in the standings.

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Speaker 2: We are one game back of the Warriors and Timberwolves,

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who are in sixth and seventh. We do not have

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the tiebreaker over the Timberwolves, but we do over the Warriors.

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Speaker 4: And still a game left against them against the Dubs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel a lot better about the

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standings than I would have if they if he missed right, like,

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things become a lot bleaker in la scenario because then

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that second to last game of the season, which is

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against the Kings, instead of meaning possibly a whole bunch

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standings wise, the Clippers, you know, it's as of six

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three pm on March tenth, it's, you know, a normal game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, that's a good point. I'm almost looking at the

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top of the West more just to see who you

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could match up with if you're seventh. We know you're

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matching up with if you're eighth, So I'm looking at

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who do you match up with if you finish sixth

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or seventh. Those are the two teams that I'm looking

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at who's slotted there. And my hope is the Memphis

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Grizzlies going a winning streak here and jump into the

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two seed. Ideally then you get seventh. That's a great

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matchup or the best of the worst matchups.

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Speaker 2: You get, right, Yeah, best of I like that best

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of the worst is what I would call.

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Speaker 4: And I think it would be significantly better than playing

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Denver or the Lakers with lucan Al.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I would a one hundred percent. And we don't

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know what kind of Russ revenge would be cooked up

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either in a series against Denver just in terms of

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playoff stuff, but I think that's a that's a great point,

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the best of the worst options. We're gonna talk more

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about what is maybe the best scenario for the rest

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of the Clipper season in a bit. We're gonna talk

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about this upcoming back to back after a quick audio break.

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We got the Pelicans on Tuesday than the Heat on Wednesday.

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a short break for advertisements. If you're watching us on YouTube,

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we'll still be here, will We'll hopefully be back. Yeah,

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a short audio break and then talking the back to

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back coming up in three two one.

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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back in to clips and I'm back.

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Speaker 1: I'm back.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry about that. I was the reason for the

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wide angle I was going from iPad iPad died anyways,

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don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. We talked

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about Quhi's incredible game winner in the OT thriller Over

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the Kings. Massive step in the right direction for the Clippers,

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potentially massive implications moving forward. But the job is not

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over yet. We got an upcoming back to back, of course,

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because we hate rest. We're taking on the Pelicans tomorrow

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from the day that we're recording this Tuesday. If that's

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the day you're listening to this followed by the Heat, Charles,

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you think we're going to and l on this one.

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Speaker 1: I am not on the record saying that.

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Speaker 2: I think we split this one strictly for the fact

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that Kahi's out for the Wednesday game. We're all assuming, right,

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Norm's not going to be there. We've seen it. We've

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seen James Harden on the second end of a back

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to back put up fifty points, so I would love

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for that to happen again. But a road back to

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back the Pels proved to be I think a harder

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matchup than the Heat just looking at the stats, so

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I'm thinking we split, but I hope we split with

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a conference win, because that's the one that matters most

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to me.

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Speaker 3: Adam two and oh back to back haggle, no haggle.

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Speaker 4: No haggle. I think it's possible.

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Speaker 1: I didn't say it was a poss who.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna surprise the hell out of Chuck, just like

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Will did.

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Speaker 1: On the reach one.

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Speaker 4: Jumping out of the bushes. I think it's very possible.

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I do think the Pelicans game is the tougher game here,

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and I was talking with Carlo earlier. Kawhi has played

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the front end of all the back to backs. I

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think this season he's always played the first. They haven't

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done it based upon matchup. I don't believe it's just

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he plays the first, that's I think that's accurate. And

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the Pels I think are actually you can throw the

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record out because both teams have changed so much, and

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the Pelicans have been through injury hell this season, and

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if they have CJ and they have Zion like they're

479
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:51,720
supposed to tomorrow, I think they're slightly more dangerous. And

480
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,000
especially because they always beat the Clippers, so's you would

481
00:23:56,079 --> 00:23:57,799
want Kawhi Anyways.

482
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, history is on their side.

483
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,519
Speaker 1: They also did just sign Mobamba.

484
00:24:02,039 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 2: Which means he's gonna have a revenge game of sorts.

485
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,319
Three three is by Mobamba, book it. So I was

486
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:16,480
looking just since the All Star break. They're not shooting

487
00:24:16,599 --> 00:24:19,079
very well. They have the twenty first offensive rating, their

488
00:24:19,079 --> 00:24:21,279
twenty fourth and three point percentage, and they're twenty third

489
00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:25,079
in defensive rating. The Clippers aren't exactly lighting it up

490
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,039
in those same areas, but I do believe in the

491
00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:30,599
Clippers more despite what my co host will say. Their

492
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,400
top two most played lineups in terms of total minutes

493
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,319
played are minus twenty two and minus fifteen since the

494
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,160
All Start break. So I'm maybe feeling Oh, I'm not

495
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,960
feeling incredibly confident, but this feels like first night of

496
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,279
a back to back. I'm I feel good ish about

497
00:24:50,279 --> 00:24:56,759
this matchup. Yeah, depending if Nico guards sign on, Will.

498
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 4: Kawhi might have to guard him some, Kobe Brown might

499
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,720
have to guard him some, and we did see for

500
00:25:02,839 --> 00:25:06,319
four minutes last night. Yeah, I don't Maybe they throw

501
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,119
you Banks out there against him, or maybe he's going

502
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,759
up against Mobam, but approve who deserved to be the

503
00:25:11,799 --> 00:25:13,680
backup centers this season.

504
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,559
Speaker 1: The marquee matchup of the bottom.

505
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, do we want to see will How would you

506
00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:23,599
feel about Chris Dunn starting this one so he could

507
00:25:23,599 --> 00:25:25,799
make life more difficult for CJ McCallum.

508
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 3: I think that makes sense. Look, we have a lot

509
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,839
of history with c J McCollum. You know, this Clippers

510
00:25:30,839 --> 00:25:33,119
team is very familiar with how to guard him. I

511
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,880
think we've done so very very well. I think Done

512
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,920
Done is definitely up to the challenge, and if he

513
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,559
can stay out of early foul trouble, then yeah, I'm

514
00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:42,559
all for it. It's another one of those games where

515
00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:48,119
he picks up three pretty early. Not great because what

516
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,799
you know, like offensively, it's not a whole lot the

517
00:25:50,839 --> 00:25:53,519
Pels can can really do. If you're able to sort

518
00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:55,440
of neutralize c J mccollm, it's going to be very

519
00:25:55,559 --> 00:26:00,160
very difficult his own problem he presents, you know, when hell, health,

520
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,319
the whole set of issues that I feel like is

521
00:26:05,079 --> 00:26:08,400
in his at his prime, is still sort of difficult

522
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,720
matchup wise for the Clippers to defend given some of

523
00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:15,079
the you know, smaller forwards that we have, uh and

524
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,519
right now this center rotation being so shaky. But I

525
00:26:18,519 --> 00:26:21,640
would be in favor of Done starting on McCallum. I

526
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,200
think make make him have a bad night early, don't

527
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,160
allow him to get into a rhythm. Don't let the

528
00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:29,920
Pels set a new franchise record for three point percentage.

529
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 1: That'd be great.

530
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,799
Speaker 2: Uh maybe steps maybe steps? Yeah, Adam, how would you

531
00:26:35,839 --> 00:26:37,960
feel about Dirk Jones junior off He looked great off

532
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,160
the bench last year, like it was if he's gonna

533
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,400
be that efficient, Dirk Jones Junior off the bench is phenomenal,

534
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,519
and I think with such a good backcourt player, why

535
00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:46,359
not put done in there.

536
00:26:47,319 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 4: It almost feels like lately they've just settled into forget

537
00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:53,440
the matchup stuff. We're just gonna start Chris Dunn and

538
00:26:53,519 --> 00:26:56,240
have DJ coming off the bench. I don't know if

539
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,960
that's what the thinking is. But when's the last time

540
00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:02,519
Chris Dunn didn't start? Is my question? On this team.

541
00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:05,319
It seems like it's been a string of games here.

542
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,039
Speaker 3: Well, djj did was injury.

543
00:27:10,279 --> 00:27:10,839
Speaker 4: This is true.

544
00:27:11,079 --> 00:27:12,759
Speaker 3: He has not been back in the starting lineup since

545
00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:13,240
the injury.

546
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then even before it just seemed like, I

547
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,000
don't know, they're favoring Chris Dunn in that spot.

548
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 3: But oh, I'm with you. Yeah, it did seem like

549
00:27:22,519 --> 00:27:25,680
he was. He was taking the lion's share of those starts.

550
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: And even was healthy.

551
00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: Because I think that's where it changed if I can

552
00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:34,039
remember that.

553
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels that is a long time.

554
00:27:40,079 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: The restaurant tour.

555
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,799
Speaker 4: I haven't heard that name in a long time.

556
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,799
Speaker 2: Teams against the Pelicans can get a lot of threes.

557
00:27:50,039 --> 00:27:52,759
They are thirtieth and opponent three point attempts per game,

558
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,240
So it seems like maybe a stylistic issue or they're

559
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,480
fine with teams since the All Star break and they're

560
00:27:57,519 --> 00:28:01,519
making a lot of twos. So like the shots are

561
00:28:01,519 --> 00:28:03,960
gonna be there for the Clippers from the outside, but

562
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,880
who do they funnel to, which kind of goes back

563
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,799
to that done question, right, Like it's gonna be Adams

564
00:28:10,799 --> 00:28:13,440
maybe more nervous about this game now, thanks dude.

565
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,759
Speaker 4: No, I just I want to see Kawhi hit two

566
00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:20,759
threes in the in the first quarter. That's what I

567
00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:24,799
want to see because three of nineteen his last few

568
00:28:24,799 --> 00:28:28,160
games out there from distance. That's that's been rough to

569
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,799
watch and they need his three point shooting. I saw

570
00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:33,279
somebody say, like, why is Kawhi taking so many threes?

571
00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:36,480
Like because he's like a forty three point shooter.

572
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: Because Norm Powell is out.

573
00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 4: They need it, Paul George is no longer here and yeah,

574
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,839
so it'd be great if they could exploit that, ye,

575
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,839
seeming we it's hard to talk about the Pelicans because

576
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:56,559
they've been in fluxed so much and like trends and patterns,

577
00:28:56,559 --> 00:28:59,119
it's like, who the hell are they? And that's scary

578
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,880
to me. Who are the Kings being a wild card

579
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,359
like the Pelicans? I don't know what's going on.

580
00:29:04,359 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: There, that's true.

581
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: Will you worried at all about maybe the physicality, like

582
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,359
because this is a pretty physical defensive matchup at least

583
00:29:11,359 --> 00:29:12,799
for Kawhi that he could find himself in.

584
00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:14,319
Speaker 1: They got some big bodies over there.

585
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean for Kawhi at least it will be

586
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:19,759
the first time to a back to back, so there

587
00:29:19,759 --> 00:29:21,480
will be some rest coming up. But you know, they

588
00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:22,920
just had to put a lot in to grind out

589
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,480
a win over the King so that it definitely could

590
00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:29,599
be a factor. And just the size in general, like

591
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,519
you know the size of this team with no Ben Simmons,

592
00:29:34,119 --> 00:29:36,119
we're just back to a lot of question marks went

593
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,359
in front court.

594
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's fair.

595
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,519
Speaker 4: But toomb could solve a lot of them, I think,

596
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,960
But do they want to play him heavy enough minutes

597
00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:45,559
to do that?

598
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I.

599
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,839
Speaker 5: Probably shouldn't be playing back to back probably not like

600
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,039
no disrespect to Niko, but like, yeah, I wonder what

601
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,599
the injury report against the Heat looks like, because that

602
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,839
is because obviously Kawhi Norman bed.

603
00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:03,559
Speaker 2: I wonder if things go well and I don't, you know,

604
00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:05,160
I'm sure they put more thought of it than.

605
00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:05,759
Speaker 1: What I'm doing right now.

606
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: Things go well tomorrow, and then you think Miami okay,

607
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,519
Like if Kawhi plays heavy minutes, Harden's not sitting out,

608
00:30:13,559 --> 00:30:14,160
we know that.

609
00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting.

610
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 2: Maybe they give Petune like arrest or something if if

611
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,640
he has to play a lot. But I wouldn't be

612
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,440
super surprised on that if it is.

613
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,359
Speaker 3: Either of these, a guinea like it's either of these,

614
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,799
like an indictment on this team.

615
00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:30,359
Speaker 2: If if they were to lose, I think if you

616
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,200
have actually been watching the Clippers, it wouldn't be I

617
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,400
think if you don't, you say they lost to the Pels,

618
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,920
and you'll go, well, yeah, I think he would.

619
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,319
Speaker 3: The Heat one would be worse to me.

620
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: It's a second out of a back to back I mean, yeah,

621
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,839
like this team on the second aid of a back

622
00:30:46,839 --> 00:30:48,640
to back, I'm like, okay, I don't know, just don't

623
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,759
look like dog shit process wise. Yeah, that's fair, Adam,

624
00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:55,440
would any of these being in would you arrest the

625
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,759
team if they lost any of either of these games?

626
00:30:59,680 --> 00:30:59,839
Speaker 1: No?

627
00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:02,039
Speaker 4: I think they need to win the Pelicans game though,

628
00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:04,519
with Kawhi out there, you have Kawhi, you know, win

629
00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:08,000
that game depending on how it played out against Miami.

630
00:31:08,119 --> 00:31:12,599
You know, all reserve judgment. But they're not terrible. They

631
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,640
have an identity and heat culture and they've just been

632
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:17,839
in a downward trends.

633
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: That's just something people say that doesn't mean anything.

634
00:31:21,799 --> 00:31:25,759
Speaker 4: Hete culture, Yeah, you know, it's it's a culture, and

635
00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:26,839
it's a culture.

636
00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:32,759
Speaker 2: How would one display it? Cut up magazine letters?

637
00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: Just look how they display it now, dude, cut up

638
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:39,920
magazine letters.

639
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 4: You Donna's has them.

640
00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:42,359
Speaker 1: Hete culture.

641
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,119
Speaker 4: Just let's just look at.

642
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 3: Just name me a couple of exhibits.

643
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,319
Speaker 4: Tough, tough, tough, tuffies.

644
00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:53,839
Speaker 2: Tough tough h How come they don't have a tough

645
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,240
tough toughies Jersey.

646
00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: They should do that for a city edition.

647
00:31:58,759 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: All right, you give the heat since the all star

648
00:32:01,759 --> 00:32:05,039
Break pretty average four and six thirteenth and net rating

649
00:32:05,319 --> 00:32:08,359
pretty again, pretty middle of the road. We beat them

650
00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:11,440
in January, but we had some pretty insane games from

651
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,319
Norm Zoo and Harden and there was no Bam out

652
00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:17,759
of bio in that game, which was a pretty big issue.

653
00:32:17,759 --> 00:32:20,880
And Bam routinely can sometimes look like a Hall of

654
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,519
Famer against the LA Clippers another to cover for sure. Yeah,

655
00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:29,519
so that yeah, Now this Pels game is that must

656
00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:32,119
win because now I'm thinking about the fatigue that's gonna

657
00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:37,440
be hitting the Clippers after traveling. First of all, you're

658
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,799
in two pretty rough cities to have free time in

659
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,640
if you're trying to get your job done, which is

660
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,720
New Orleans and Miami. And you know Kawha's gonna eat

661
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,440
a bunch of Vignets. We know that's gonna happen. So

662
00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:49,119
he's gonna take the second night of the back.

663
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:49,519
Speaker 1: To back off.

664
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:52,359
Speaker 2: But that Miami game is just as physical, if not

665
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,960
more so, than the Pels team. Right Like they're gonna

666
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,440
try and run. I think they're gonna try and just

667
00:32:57,519 --> 00:32:58,440
run the Clippers out.

668
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 4: Looks like Bam is on a heater, averaging twenty seven

669
00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:07,799
and eleven. His last five games.

670
00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:09,079
Speaker 1: Good.

671
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 3: Well, it's I mean, it's kind of revenge time for him, right,

672
00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:18,960
you know your coast you've got two start very loudly

673
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,200
wants out. I mean, I think you'd feel slighted.

674
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:30,519
Speaker 1: That's true. Damn okay, and they got Yeah.

675
00:33:29,119 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 4: I'm thinking Zoo. I'm thinking Big Zoo playing through him

676
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,400
second night of a back to back, getting him more

677
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,200
touches out there, making him more of a focal point.

678
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,880
You don't have Kawhi. Let's get Zoo in other twenty shots,

679
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,440
which would tie his career high, which like just happened.

680
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,759
Speaker 2: I mean, last game again, no auto bios who had

681
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,720
twenty one and twenty the game before that when they

682
00:33:54,759 --> 00:33:55,400
did have.

683
00:33:55,319 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: Auto bio, which was in February. February twenty four.

684
00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:03,599
Speaker 2: Sorry, he had four points in eighteen minutes, which is

685
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,480
not ideal. So he's been kind of up and down

686
00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:08,440
against the heat. Career wise, he's averaging ten.

687
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,159
Speaker 3: And eight against how many Intenncity have in that in

688
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:13,320
that February game.

689
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: Let me check?

690
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 4: Did he get hurt?

691
00:34:18,119 --> 00:34:20,519
Speaker 2: Oh, guys, I'm checking. Why would I want to play

692
00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:26,039
by play? Give me the box score? U he went

693
00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:30,079
two for four. He played eighteen minutes. Well, it seems

694
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:31,480
like he was getting ignored there.

695
00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it was not ideal, and it was when

696
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,519
Paul George was on the team. So who knows.

697
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 4: Umm, they're gonna need some threes against that zone that.

698
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: Any team that plays a zone against the Clippers looks

699
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,719
like defensive geniuses. I feel like it's like historically the

700
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,400
Clippers just don't know what versus zone. I like what

701
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,159
you said though, with Kawhi's three point shooting, if he

702
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:56,840
can make the they're gonna throw that zone out pretty early.

703
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,599
It'd be my guess to be like, hey, let's see

704
00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:00,960
if you are shooting well.

705
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: He makes two of them.

706
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,679
Speaker 2: He makes two of the first three whatever, two of

707
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,599
the first four hard and two and makes them think.

708
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,639
Speaker 1: About a little bit, which I like.

709
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: But I'm not looking forward to them working the kinks

710
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,280
out against the Miami's out.

711
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,599
Speaker 4: I guess now that's gonna be tough. Second back to back.

712
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,760
Does does Miami have a game beforehand?

713
00:35:20,639 --> 00:35:24,079
Speaker 1: I think they played tonight, so.

714
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 4: Then they'll have a day off.

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Speaker 1: They're playing the Hornets right now. Shout out the Hornets.

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Speaker 2: Shout out future Clipper lamellow Ball see him Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we will.

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Speaker 2: All right, anything else about the heat before we get

719
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,920
to our player of the back to back. We haven't

720
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,320
even talked about Bogden yet. They're gonna let him shoot,

721
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,360
probably in Miami.

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Speaker 1: Against this Ouland. So let's hope those are falling.

723
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, player the player the back to back picks,

724
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Let's do it, Adam, who is your player of the

725
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,719
back back? If you're the show, we pick anyone who

726
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,039
is not a Vitza zubats Kwhi Leonard or Norm Powell?

727
00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: Why?

728
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,039
Speaker 3: Who knows?

729
00:36:08,039 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: Too easy, baby, We're not doing Pingalore rules where you

730
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,800
can pick every anybody you want, Adam, who you're going with?

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Speaker 4: Uh, I'll go with bogie ball Odan Bodanovich. He went

732
00:36:23,159 --> 00:36:26,320
I think, oh for four from three against the Kings,

733
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:34,480
but he's had some incredible playmaking possessions recently, and those

734
00:36:35,079 --> 00:36:40,159
tippins he had against New York. Yeah, we're insanely clutched

735
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,280
with all eight of his points coming in the fourth quarter.

736
00:36:43,519 --> 00:36:46,440
I like what I'm seeing from Bogey overall, being able

737
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,440
to take some of the burden off Kawhi and James

738
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,360
Harden out there. Give me some bogie ball.

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Speaker 2: Okay, trusting bogged in Bogdanovitch to be a hot shooter.

740
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,119
Two games in a row, you like to live dangerously?

741
00:36:58,639 --> 00:37:00,159
Will your pick.

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00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 3: For the going DJJ again?

743
00:37:02,519 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: Who went? Who?

744
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 3: I went? Last time over the weekend. I would say

745
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,760
I was half right. But he's coming off one of

746
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,519
his best games as a Clipper. I do think like

747
00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:13,440
his physicality helps. I think that he's a guy who

748
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:16,519
He's the kind of guy that we need for the

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schedule that we have always with the back to backs

750
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and everything and no Kawhi, It's gonna be a tall order.

751
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,519
But I you know, we we gave him Miss Flowers

752
00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:26,559
at the beginning of this. But I love the athleticism,

753
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:31,199
I love the versatility. Yeah, Hoping strings together a couple

754
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,119
of good ones.

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Speaker 1: A lot and Derek Jones Junior, those were one of

756
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:41,880
those two. Is gonna be my picks. I'm gonna go no.

757
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:43,679
I was gonna say a mirror, but I don't feel

758
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,559
confident about that. For two games in a row, go done.

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00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,519
Speaker 2: I'm thinking I'm thinking done. I think Chris Dunn is

760
00:37:50,559 --> 00:37:54,039
gonna have to be He's gonna have to do a

761
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:58,719
lot defensively, especially in that second game with no Kawhi

762
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,000
and stuff like that, so Derek Jones Junior will too.

763
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I'm excited to see them kind of paired together. Just

764
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start that one as what I assume will happen.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going with done.

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00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,559
Speaker 2: I feel pretty good about it, and the Clippers are

767
00:38:10,559 --> 00:38:13,639
gonna go one in one.

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00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: It's a tough factor back, all.

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00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, get their receipts ready. Clip it, Adam, clip

770
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,840
it and you can play it with distorted sound and

771
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,920
a remixed horror movie song.

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Speaker 1: Or something like that. They just need they need to

773
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:31,599
win the.

774
00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:35,199
Speaker 2: Game against the Pales. Our conference record needs to be better.

775
00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:39,440
They would just make me feel better personally if we

776
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,800
were better than five hundred in the conference, because the

777
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,760
Kings are better in the conference, which is annoying.

778
00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:48,119
Speaker 4: Be nice to get a victory over the Pelicans, who

779
00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:51,400
have routinely I guess the Clippers have one two of

780
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,320
the last three in New Orleans, but before that it

781
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,760
was ugly. I don't want to talk about it.

782
00:38:57,119 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: You know what's weird?

783
00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 6: Uh?

784
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: The Timberwolves had the have the third most wins in

785
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,480
conference play in the Western.

786
00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:09,599
Speaker 4: Conference, and they've lost a lot of close games. Their

787
00:39:09,639 --> 00:39:13,960
bugaboo has been they've lost a ton of clutch time games,

788
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:15,840
but they've been better as of late.

789
00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're twenty six and eighteen in conference play. Pretty

790
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:20,840
damn good.

791
00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 4: They're better than their record, honestly.

792
00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 6: Well, thankfully we go by the record, which is also

793
00:39:32,199 --> 00:39:33,159
better than the Clippers.

794
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Speaker 2: All right, coming up, we're gonna be doing an existential

795
00:39:38,199 --> 00:39:41,719
existential question and then sending everyone on their way from

796
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,920
this back to back. If you're listening, thank you so much.

797
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,320
If you're watching, also love that you can watch the

798
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,360
YouTube dot com back Clippers podcast. Coming up, we're talking

799
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,840
the best case scenario for how the Clippers can finish

800
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,360
their season. Coming up in three two.

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Speaker 4: One Welcome back in clips and dip, I'm at a

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Moslim We got check Macklin, will Updyke. It's episode fifty

803
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,719
two of season three. Coming off a huge win last night,

804
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,400
Add into a Dome, some say the best game ever

805
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:16,639
played add into a Dome. That I mean your first

806
00:40:16,639 --> 00:40:19,559
buzzer beater at the Dome. People were freaking out. It

807
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:22,960
was loud, it was crazy, it was pandemonium. But uh,

808
00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:26,880
this Clippers team, we just talked about it going out

809
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,840
on that road trip. But there are some bigger questions

810
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,440
at hand. It's not just about this three game roadie.

811
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It's about where they end up overall this season by

812
00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:41,239
the time things are done. And so I guess, Chuck,

813
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,280
you were asked this question. It was posed to you

814
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,679
on a podcast recently.

815
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Speaker 2: Yes, I did the nixt Film School pod. Wonderful pod

816
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,679
if you ever want to listen to a team from

817
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,039
the other coast. I was asked what the best case

818
00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:58,679
scenario on how the Clippers season ended is what I

819
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,440
What I said candidly was best case scenario. The way

820
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,800
I see it is they win at least one playoff

821
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,039
home game into it and hopefully we don't get bounced

822
00:41:10,039 --> 00:41:13,920
out of the playoffs by the in this order, Lakers

823
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:16,800
or the Thunder. That was kind of my best That's

824
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,079
what I think maybe best case scenarios. That was also

825
00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:22,519
when things were not going swimmingly. It was last week,

826
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so things have gotten better since then.

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00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 3: But that would change your answer.

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00:41:27,199 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: No, If you can get.

829
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 2: A home playoff or play in win at into it

830
00:41:34,559 --> 00:41:37,719
and then be a really annoying team to play in

831
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,119
the playoffs, I think that's a pretty and again you

832
00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:42,400
don't get bounced out by the Lakers or the Thunder

833
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,599
in that order. That would be I think that'd be

834
00:41:46,599 --> 00:41:49,679
a great way down the season. Not obviously elite, but

835
00:41:50,039 --> 00:41:51,760
we came into the season saying they'd be a high

836
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,039
playing team, and that's what happens to high play in teams,

837
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and if everyone stays healthy, we get a fight and shot.

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Speaker 3: Okay, will So you're saying five, five game first round exit? No,

839
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,159
is the is the ceiling for this Clippers team?

840
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: Maybe six? What? Yes? That is the ceiling? Will it?

841
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,039
What is your I know what's our year?

842
00:42:21,559 --> 00:42:26,039
Speaker 3: Shot the world? Shock the world? World is what the

843
00:42:26,039 --> 00:42:26,760
ceiling is?

844
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:27,679
Speaker 1: What time is it?

845
00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 4: March madness?

846
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,039
Speaker 3: Baby? Is what the ceiling is?

847
00:42:33,079 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: Well, you're going, You're going, You're going. Championship is the best?

848
00:42:37,559 --> 00:42:39,559
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean we get out of the first round.

849
00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:42,599
Speaker 1: It's looking like nailing.

850
00:42:43,159 --> 00:42:45,199
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean that's hey, if they get out of

851
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:47,599
the first round, this guy's living.

852
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 3: Sure out of the first round, who knows, it's anyone's

853
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:54,960
game at that.

854
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: It's actually better to play the best teams in the

855
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,199
first round when you're the Clippers coming off, I mean,

856
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:00,360
get out of the way.

857
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: Sure, you just you sweep it right out of the way.

858
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,760
You're less sleepy? Yeah, all right, Adam, what are you feeling.

859
00:43:07,679 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 4: Uh, I'll say Western Conference Finals if everything broke their way.

860
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,280
We were talking about it a little bit earlier, but

861
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,800
I need Memphis to end up as that two seed.

862
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,440
Sure that happens, Clippers get seven. I feel pretty good

863
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,079
about their chances in the first round. Sometimes just matchups.

864
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,719
I don't think the Lakers should have made it to

865
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,599
the Western Conference Finals in twenty twenty three just to

866
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:42,639
get swept by Denver. But they got Memphis, they got

867
00:43:42,639 --> 00:43:45,159
the Golden State Warriors. It worked out in their favor.

868
00:43:46,039 --> 00:43:48,440
So it's all about the matchups in the end. If

869
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,760
the Clippers catch the right ones, with the healthy Kawhi,

870
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,760
I think they could view business all right.

871
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 2: So we have one host saying championship, we have one

872
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,280
saying Western Conference Finals, and then.

873
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,599
Speaker 1: Me saying first round exit. Five game, first round, first

874
00:44:02,679 --> 00:44:03,239
round exit.

875
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:10,119
Speaker 4: I think a dump on the I think I think

876
00:44:10,159 --> 00:44:11,159
Western Conference Finals.

877
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:12,519
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to say that.

878
00:44:12,639 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: Wow, this is a huge backtrack, but I know I

879
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,920
think the matchup that thing makes sense. If they get

880
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,199
the Grizzlies. I don't exactly see the second round going

881
00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:23,639
as swimmingly as Adam does.

882
00:44:25,679 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: But who do they get?

883
00:44:27,159 --> 00:44:28,159
Speaker 4: Tell me who they getting?

884
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,199
Speaker 2: I guess who would they get? So in your dream scenario,

885
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,840
who they get Grizzlies.

886
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 4: Houston the second round?

887
00:44:36,599 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: That was sure? Yeah, if we get Grizzlies Rockets, I'll say.

888
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 4: Are they not in the Western Conference? This is not

889
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:45,559
a possibility.

890
00:44:45,679 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: They are. They very much are a lot of things

891
00:44:48,039 --> 00:44:48,760
gonna fall your way.

892
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:53,039
Speaker 2: I do appreciate it, all right, anything else before, That's

893
00:44:53,039 --> 00:44:55,719
really all I had for this extra section. Anything else

894
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,840
before we send these Clippers fans onto a week that

895
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:05,840
is an hour shorter as of today I've spent. We

896
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,000
gotta get ready for this back to back. All right,

897
00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:11,960
We're gonna do a postgame hang tomorrow after the Pels game,

898
00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:13,880
because that is the one that is more important, and

899
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,800
that is when we're Kawhi is playing. Will Where can people,

900
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:22,599
during their performance reviews when they're higher ups, ask them

901
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,360
what they've been wasting time on instead of working? Where

902
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,119
can they tell their bosses to listen to our pod?

903
00:45:27,639 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can check out this podcast wherever you get

904
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,360
your podcast. If you happen to listen over on Spotify

905
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,159
or Apple Podcast, go ahead, leave us little rating and

906
00:45:34,159 --> 00:45:36,360
review definitely helps us out. But the best way to

907
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,280
watch this show, you can watch a bunch of crazy

908
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,679
stuff happen, like the camera angles, changing me randomly. Cutting

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out is over on YouTube dot com and that's at

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00:45:44,639 --> 00:45:47,800
Clippers Podcast. Subscribe over there, hit the little bell so

911
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,239
you know when we're doing new stuff, we sometimes we

912
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,119
come at you live. We love to get the community involved.

913
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:56,000
But however you consume this show, we.

914
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: Appreciation we very much do. We love getting the community involved.

915
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 2: Adam hardest part of the show right now, Give these

916
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,480
Clippers fans one positive thing to start their week with.

917
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 1: Please.

918
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,519
Speaker 4: You know, as much as we're a bitching about the

919
00:46:08,559 --> 00:46:11,280
three point shooting going against the Clippers recently.

920
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: I just looked this up.

921
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:17,519
Speaker 4: Last three games team shooting twenty eight percent against the

922
00:46:17,519 --> 00:46:22,519
Clippers from three third lowest percentage in the NBA over

923
00:46:22,519 --> 00:46:22,920
that time.

924
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,119
Speaker 3: Believe in the averages. Believe in the averages.

925
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,079
Speaker 1: The math. The math is right here.

926
00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 4: But I feel like CJ. McCollum hit like ten against

927
00:46:32,519 --> 00:46:34,159
them this year or was that last year?

928
00:46:35,639 --> 00:46:37,199
Speaker 1: I don't we got to bring that up.

929
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,639
Speaker 4: That Is that a real thing or a nightmare of

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00:46:39,679 --> 00:46:39,920
that up?

931
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:46,679
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me look now, I'm confused now did

932
00:46:46,679 --> 00:46:47,079
he do that?

933
00:46:49,159 --> 00:46:53,039
Speaker 4: Either way? The Clippers things are trending in the right

934
00:46:53,079 --> 00:46:55,480
direction again. The law of averages is back in their

935
00:46:55,519 --> 00:46:59,719
favor after fifteen games of getting the worst three points

936
00:46:59,679 --> 00:47:03,800
shoot variants against them. It's gonna even out. That's how

937
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:04,280
things work.

938
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Speaker 2: There we go, the law of averages evening out at

939
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:09,480
the right time. Closer to the end of the season

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00:47:09,519 --> 00:47:12,800
where sixty six percent of this podcast. Thanks for going

941
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,440
to the Western Conference Finals bear minimum.

942
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,559
Speaker 1: Baby, that wasn't a question.

943
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,519
Speaker 2: We will be back live. That's how he manipulate stats man.

944
00:47:23,199 --> 00:47:25,880
We will be back live after the game tomorrow. You

945
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,079
can also catch Adam on Clippers Talk before and after

946
00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:30,599
the game. Thank you for hanging out and as always,

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00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,679
let's go clips.

