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<v Speaker 1>And I just turned around and I call ass out

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<v Speaker 1>of there. I was done. I wasn't deal with them.

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<v Speaker 1>The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my

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<v Speaker 1>head lights on, it turned and looked at us. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things I remember the most, where the

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<v Speaker 1>eyes were glowing red. I see an orb of light.

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<v Speaker 2>It is just circling these steps.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it is waiting for me. And he begins to

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<v Speaker 1>tell them that he saw UFO. They're basically like, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where I saw.

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<v Speaker 1>The top of the muzzle nose and the eyes. As

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<v Speaker 1>soon as I made eye contact with this thing, it

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<v Speaker 1>don't like death.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on, listeners, it's Brandon from ten foil Teals

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<v Speaker 2>bringing you another episode. Today's episode, we're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>joined by Matt from Drunkencryptis podcast and he is going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to us a little bit about the experience

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<v Speaker 2>he had while he was stationed at Fort Hood. Definitely

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting topic. I always enjoy hearing about the strange

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<v Speaker 2>things that happens around military bases. But before we dive

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<v Speaker 2>into the Conversation with Matt. You're a fan of Tenfoil Tels,

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<v Speaker 2>also have a documentary coming out called The Missisinabal Triangle,

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<v Speaker 2>I will make sure to let everyone know. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead now dive into the conversation with Matt. So

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for listening, Thanks to the Cult of Conspiracy for

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<v Speaker 2>having me on here, and we will check you on

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<v Speaker 2>the next one. Matt, thanks for coming here and talking

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<v Speaker 2>to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Randon, thanks for having me on the show man.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a problem. What got you before we dive into it?

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<v Speaker 2>We've been chit chatting here for about a half hour,

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<v Speaker 2>but like for the audience, where did you come up

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<v Speaker 2>with the name Drunken Cryptids, because that is what actually

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<v Speaker 2>we just kind of talked about, but that's what sticks

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<v Speaker 2>out to me as the whole Drunken Cryptis name. Like

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<v Speaker 2>it just when I first seen, I was like, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a cool name.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so I've been pushed for years to try and

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<v Speaker 1>get a podcast started about, you know, Cryptis and some

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<v Speaker 1>of my experiences and talk to others about what I've

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<v Speaker 1>been through, what I encountered, and so about a year

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<v Speaker 1>so the show has been going out for a little

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<v Speaker 1>over years. So just yeah, so we just I just

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<v Speaker 1>passed my gear mark, so happy anniversary to me, Congress.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was told, before you start a podcast, before

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<v Speaker 1>you record, you want to have a name. You want

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<v Speaker 1>it to be. You want to make sure nobody has

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<v Speaker 1>her name or anything. And you know, about a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of nights a week, I mean somebody's we would go

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<v Speaker 1>down and go play trivia at like the little Piece

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<v Speaker 1>of Place or a little die bar place or somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and I always ask you what your team

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<v Speaker 1>name is. And I was cracking jokes and I was

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<v Speaker 1>always trying to tie Bigfoot or Cryptis or something into

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<v Speaker 1>the title. And we had a couple of pictures of

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<v Speaker 1>beer on the table and I went, yeah, we're the

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<v Speaker 1>Drunken Cryptids and I went, help, that's a podcast name.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where it came from.

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<v Speaker 2>That is I don't know the proper word to say,

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<v Speaker 2>but like that is like the perfect setting to come

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<v Speaker 2>up with a name when you're out at a bar

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<v Speaker 2>having some few drinks and it just rolls off and

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<v Speaker 2>just roll with it.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, we did, Yeah, we did. So I had

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<v Speaker 1>the so a Drunking Cryptics dot com, which is nobody

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<v Speaker 1>has it. Uh. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it catches people's attention and they're like, you know you

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's all you guys do is drink on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. And I was like, sometimes sometimes we have

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<v Speaker 1>some drinks, you know. And I interviewed Todd Nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The first time was in person, and we did a

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<v Speaker 1>two part series in one shot and it's kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 1>You can tell how the episode goes and you know

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<v Speaker 1>you've been doing this for a while, so you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's starts off we kind of sober, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell by the end we've been drinking a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>because we're laughing a lot more than anything. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>the whole point of the show. It's just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>come on and just kind of visit and talk about encounters,

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what people have experienced, whether they've been through

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, we discussed topics, you know, so me

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<v Speaker 1>and I have a couple of codes to help me out.

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob sometimes come in. My buddy Chris does as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, or I'll talk to you know, another

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<v Speaker 1>talking the news.

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<v Speaker 2>Or you've been doing some stuff with the guys from

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<v Speaker 2>Cryptos of the Corn, so I've talked to them a

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<v Speaker 2>few times and been trying to get one of them

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<v Speaker 2>on here to do an episode. But we talked back

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<v Speaker 2>at Cryptid Con in person. But that it's weird for

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<v Speaker 2>anyone listening, like it's I don't want to say it's

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<v Speaker 2>like a click, but there's a group. There's a group

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<v Speaker 2>of people and they all if we do this type

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<v Speaker 2>of thing, you all kind of know each other. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like it's almost like I used to do band stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>so I used to know a lot of different bands.

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<v Speaker 2>There were certain bands you played different shows, so you

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<v Speaker 2>made friends with and like the guy that does who's

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<v Speaker 2>doing the documentary with me and like he's been on

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<v Speaker 2>some of my episodes or whatever. My friend ed we

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<v Speaker 2>met from being in bands. Now I was like one

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<v Speaker 2>of my best friends I talked to all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's how you meet some of these people because

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<v Speaker 2>we all have that one common thing together, which was

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast and the Cryptid stuff. So it all it's

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<v Speaker 2>like your own little clique of people that all have

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of thing in common. So just a new

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<v Speaker 2>avenue of making new friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's uh, And I'll be honest with that's the

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<v Speaker 1>bonus so far that I've been able to have been

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<v Speaker 1>blessed with by doing this stuff is by you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the first ones I met was Justin and Jay over

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<v Speaker 1>there Crips of the Corn. That was you know, on

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook message and back and forth. They're coming down here

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<v Speaker 1>I on this episode of air. But on April fifth

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<v Speaker 1>this year, we're doing a live show together and then

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<v Speaker 1>which is so I'm excited for that one. We're doing

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<v Speaker 1>a big four hour meet and greet. And then in

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<v Speaker 1>October they asked me to come up to their jamboree

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<v Speaker 1>there I don't think for jamboree and be a guest

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<v Speaker 1>speaker for the family side. So I'm not like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>where Tony's going to be at, whe Joel's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be at. I'm going to be like in the smaller side,

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<v Speaker 1>but the family thing. But you know, I'm I'm super

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<v Speaker 1>stoked about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been. I don't know if I can make that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I can because my October literally I'm

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<v Speaker 2>booked every weekend and I messaged Justin about it. I

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<v Speaker 2>said that I would like to be a part of

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<v Speaker 2>that or whatever, but I'm pretty sure. I'm at Goatman Festival.

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<v Speaker 2>So October is literally every single weekend. I've got stuff

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<v Speaker 1>So but I've only got I've only got two in October. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in Arkansas, so we don't have that much here.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately we have. I had to be one of the

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<v Speaker 1>Arkansas Paranormal expos It's every October and I'm I'm now

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<v Speaker 1>on the guest speaker list for them, which is an honor.

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<v Speaker 1>They reached out to us to come back. We were

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<v Speaker 1>there last year and so they emailed us when they

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<v Speaker 1>open it up and asked if I'd be willing to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, be prom the list. They already have a list,

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<v Speaker 1>but if somebody bells out they would want me to

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<v Speaker 1>step in. There's another one that comes out, put on

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<v Speaker 1>by Robert Swain, who's a super nice guy. It's more

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<v Speaker 1>of a kind of a small town kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a little kind of get together thing. Not that big,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, Arkansas. Well then we have Foul you know

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<v Speaker 1>the fact, you know, festival that happens in April on

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<v Speaker 1>April twenty second, and I'll actually be down there and

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<v Speaker 1>now as a vendor or anything, but I'm going down

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<v Speaker 1>there to help Todd Nisaup. He's going to be set

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<v Speaker 1>up and speaking. So I'll be down there for that

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<v Speaker 1>one and April here in Arkansas. But that's pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>about all we really have.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't really have anything here specifically, Like we have

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<v Speaker 2>some paranormal things. That's one of the weekends, like the

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<v Speaker 2>last weekend of October, we have the local one here.

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<v Speaker 2>There's literally just a couple of miles from my house.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll be at that one. I spoke at it

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<v Speaker 2>last year. And then there's another one that's actually on

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<v Speaker 2>the same day that I just got an email about

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<v Speaker 2>asking if I want to come back to that one.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, I'm already going to be at

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<v Speaker 2>the one that's right by my house. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to come down to the other one. But no, most

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<v Speaker 2>of the things I've got, I've got Tennessee, I've got Chicago,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got Indianapolis, which the Indianapolis one is. Honestly, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>out of the element. I won can't really see a

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<v Speaker 2>bit up on the thing. I won two awards there

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<v Speaker 2>last year, which I only entered it just to see

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<v Speaker 2>what would happen, But I won Best Paranormal Podcast. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like the indie popcorn so it's more of a anime.

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<v Speaker 2>They have like speakers from like different cartoon shows. They

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<v Speaker 2>got video game people there, like, it's not anything related

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<v Speaker 2>to like what I do here. It's not like paranormal

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<v Speaker 2>or cryptid or anything like that. So me being there

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<v Speaker 2>is definitely out of the element. But because I have

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<v Speaker 2>that differentness from everyone else, I thought maybe it'd be

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<v Speaker 2>a good exposure. So it's three days down at Indianapolis,

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<v Speaker 2>like a It's an hour and a half drive, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just drive down there every day for it. Not

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<v Speaker 2>a big deal, but we'll see what happens with that.

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<v Speaker 2>But then most of the stuff is in either Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>or Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, travel for me, that's an awesome thing to

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<v Speaker 1>win at a conference. So yeah, we won Best Documenting

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast in Arkansas last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>So our first year in we're winning awards is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of neat. So yeah, tomorrow I get interviewed for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for the people who put that on. They wanted me

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<v Speaker 1>to come on their show. So that'll be that be

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<v Speaker 1>in personally down a little rock awesome. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think much of it. I entered it, and

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<v Speaker 2>then a couple of months go by and then I

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<v Speaker 2>get an email asking if I can attend. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I got two.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we got we got nominated, and I didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>is that the email, but the email, the email got

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<v Speaker 1>screwed up. And my buddy Tommy started blowing my phone

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<v Speaker 1>started messaging him on Facebook. Hey, y'all, won, we're trying

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got to be here on Thursday. We're like what, So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Kinsey come through. I met him for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time in September. Was filmed in an episode for Search

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<v Speaker 1>time frame, So that'd be a lot of fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks, Yeah, we're putting together an expedition right now for Portlock.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a lot of activity in your area?

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<v Speaker 1>it's mainly mainly just the uh, the perception, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>red views like oh, Alabama or Mississippi, you know, Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 1>We're kind of all kind of grouped in, but there

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<v Speaker 1>is a ton of sidings. You cannot hunting is huge

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<v Speaker 1>down here. It is when everybody hunts through the duck hunting,

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<v Speaker 1>deer hunting, there are always everybody's in the woods. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're not going to get these guys come out and

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, yeah, I saw something, I did this. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you ask the right questions, you get the right answers.

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<v Speaker 1>I e. You ever start a deer, the deer jump

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<v Speaker 1>off into the woods, fallow the blood trail and no deer.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, yeah, okay, you know, little things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then well, what is funny though, is that when

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<v Speaker 1>you're asking questions to these hunters, they'll crack jokes with

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<v Speaker 1>you and say nothing there, and then a few minutes later,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're by yourself, I'll walk up. We go okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So one morning some walked under my stand there was

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<v Speaker 1>somebody there, and when there was nobody, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. So I think down here in the South,

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<v Speaker 1>in Arkansas, when it comes to Squatch, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>he they because they they do. They put up feeders.

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<v Speaker 1>They know they learned the deer into the area and

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do dinner season aussee, but they do it

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<v Speaker 1>prior to and Squatch knows they know where the food's at.

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<v Speaker 1>They know where the deer is going to be, they

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<v Speaker 1>know where the stands are at. They know where the

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<v Speaker 1>trail cams are at, because they put them up the

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<v Speaker 1>same place every year. I don't know if you feed

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<v Speaker 1>a bear, if you keep feeding the bear, the bear's

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<v Speaker 1>in associate it with right food.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where everyone comes up with the whole

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<v Speaker 2>sasquatch or cryptids. They all see infrared, so they know

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<v Speaker 2>where the trail cams are. I get it. Maybe it's possible,

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<v Speaker 2>But then I'm like, well, how do they even know

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<v Speaker 2>what a camera is?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, that's where always comes like, they know if you

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<v Speaker 2>have a camera. Do they know what a camera does?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>So that's where I get to is if they're that

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<v Speaker 2>intelligent to where they know are they just a flesh

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<v Speaker 2>and blood primate that's out there, So how would they

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<v Speaker 2>really know that? Or if there's something else from a

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<v Speaker 2>different plane of existence that are more intelligent than what

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<v Speaker 2>we think they are, than they would understand what that is.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're not a technology type of a creature, So again,

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<v Speaker 2>how would they know that? I don't see what.

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<v Speaker 1>You're absolutely right, And I've had the same debate internally

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<v Speaker 1>and the theory I come up with on the trail cams,

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<v Speaker 1>and the only reason I brought it up is because

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<v Speaker 1>trail cams are going to lead you to people, if

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<v Speaker 1>that makes sense. It's a man made object, just not nature.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not natural. It's you know, a piece of plastic

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<v Speaker 1>and electronics and batteries and everything, and it's gonna look

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<v Speaker 1>weird and smell weird. Your majority of your trail cams, though,

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<v Speaker 1>are triggered by a movement. Okay, so primes eperon video. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>so my camera was a troil cam on sitting still

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<v Speaker 1>and then my hand goes like this, they just activated it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're not going to see my hand in the

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<v Speaker 1>picture of the video because my hands already gone by.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it takes a second.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, so something watch in front of it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to pick up and trigger it. And now to

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<v Speaker 1>the last people, the same question. Okay, so on the

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<v Speaker 1>trail cams out there, how many times have you pulled

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<v Speaker 1>a footage you've gotten hits on and nothing be there?

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<v Speaker 1>And they'll say, yeah, I get it all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And generally could be a branch, it could be this,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be that, but it's that motion sensor and

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<v Speaker 1>if you're walking quick enough, it's not going to trigger.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't catch the deer as soon as it watching

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<v Speaker 1>the frame are the animals because of watching the frame,

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<v Speaker 1>you're catching it halfway going through the frame is what

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<v Speaker 1>you're catching, and generally you're catching already grouped them together

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<v Speaker 1>eating at your feet spot.

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<v Speaker 2>I interviewed a couple of guys here in actual in

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<v Speaker 2>studio with me a while back, and the episode came out,

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<v Speaker 2>I think a week or two ago. But they have

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<v Speaker 2>trail cam pictures. They had, like the print nows, I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen them, but there's a lot of orbs in the

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<v Speaker 2>photo and they had it set up to where they

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<v Speaker 2>had some food placed inside this old trunk of a

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<v Speaker 2>tree and then you can't see what took the stuff out.

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<v Speaker 2>But again you can see a lot of little light

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<v Speaker 2>orbs floating around.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a dust from it pulling it that fast.

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<v Speaker 2>But some of the orbs. Again, this is where I

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<v Speaker 2>get confused, because when you talk to some people, they

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<v Speaker 2>say you sometimes you see these.

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<v Speaker 1>Balls of light.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you like bigfoot or all a sudden you see

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<v Speaker 2>like an orb or a ball of light or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, is that dust or is this what?

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<v Speaker 2>People claim that they experience with Bigfoot where you see

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<v Speaker 2>these random orbs of energy, Like, I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm no expert in breaking down photos or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like it it could be dust, it could

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<v Speaker 2>be something like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>My general film when it comes to photos and orbs, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>is I am to go with ninety nine percent dust.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I mean as from taking numerous pictures inside

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<v Speaker 1>of dark rooms, black rooms out in the woods, there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many things in the woods. There's you'll get people

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<v Speaker 1>that'll have a spartaw weeb right there in front of

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<v Speaker 1>the front of the trail camp and a squirrel will

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<v Speaker 1>trigger it on a tree branch, and at night, the

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<v Speaker 1>ir lights reflecting off of that web perfectly as it's

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of hanging out and it's an orror, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I always like to side on the air of

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<v Speaker 1>it not being crypted or paranormal, if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>That is my mentality on a lot of things. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if people don't like that or not, but

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<v Speaker 2>I always try and rule out everything before I'll say

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<v Speaker 2>it's a encrypted or a paranormal or anything else. Because

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a lot of explanations that people don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to accept. By that, I mean this sounds dumb

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<v Speaker 2>as I'm doing a documentary about doing all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But basically, people want it so bad that any little

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<v Speaker 2>that's what they want so bad, So they're manifesting it

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<v Speaker 2>to be that, even though that might not be what

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<v Speaker 2>it is. So if you hear a random noise out

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<v Speaker 2>in the woods or a tree snap or something, well

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<v Speaker 2>that's a bigfoot or could have just been a random

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<v Speaker 2>deer walking and it stepped on a branch like, or

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<v Speaker 2>you hear a scream, well it could have been a fox,

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<v Speaker 2>it could have been a coyote. Like I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be that person that tells everyone know they're wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, this community has gotten to

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<v Speaker 2>the point to where you're not even allowed to question

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<v Speaker 2>anyone about the things that they say that they've experienced.

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<v Speaker 2>Like and I'm not saying that as an interview or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever to question people, but what I'm saying is I

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<v Speaker 2>get people sending me photos of blurriness. I can't see

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<v Speaker 2>anything in the photo. They've gotten mad at me because

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<v Speaker 2>I can't see what they're seeing. Yep, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Just because you sent me a blurry, zoomed in photo

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<v Speaker 2>and you say a dog man is staring at you,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see it. Well, then you're attacking me because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see it. What am I supposed to do?

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<v Speaker 1>What I agree with Brandon agreed down percent and I

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<v Speaker 1>get them as well, and generally, uh, when I get those,

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<v Speaker 1>my answer to them is, well, there's something. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>I say there's something. I mean, there's trees, leaves or something,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and this is taken. Like I was saying earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>with us, I have a really good investigation team. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a military background. U. Tony, my buddy Tony

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<v Speaker 1>has a you know, over twenty year military background as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You know in scouts it scout you being a scout

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<v Speaker 1>for the military. I was in the infantry. So with

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<v Speaker 1>me and Tony, with our experience together, we're probably close

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<v Speaker 1>for forty years. Just there Chris who hunts the area

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<v Speaker 1>that has his area, he knows it inside and out.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is where a lot of our encounter's taken

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<v Speaker 1>place at that we've gotten and we have taken hundreds,

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds hundreds of photos out there, hundreds, you know, cross trees.

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<v Speaker 1>This that we actually got. We found a structure at

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<v Speaker 1>one point, but all these pictures and there was one

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<v Speaker 1>at you know, because Chris has been the one taking

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<v Speaker 1>And he goes ascribe. I said, is that a stand

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<v Speaker 1>remember a deer stand being over there. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so well listen to I sent to a

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<v Speaker 1>buddy of mine and I said, hey, what's this thing

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<v Speaker 1>to me and he goes, well, that's the structure, but

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<v Speaker 1>what's this And to the bottom right we actually caught

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<v Speaker 1>it could have been a face. And he had circled

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<v Speaker 1>up the AI program that he was using and that

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<v Speaker 1>we were used on the same photo was pulling up

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<v Speaker 1>tracks and structures as such.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, do you want to dive into what got you

421
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<v Speaker 2>into all of this? I know, like every time someone

422
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<v Speaker 2>wants to start a podcast, usually there's a reason behind it.

423
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<v Speaker 2>We all have our reasons why we decided to get

424
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<v Speaker 2>into this whole secrew of niche of a field of podcasting.

425
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's it is a very interesting field to

426
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<v Speaker 1>get into. I'll tell you that. So a free background.

427
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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in Utah, risually from Utah. My stepdad

428
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<v Speaker 1>had a cabin and how you went is which was awesome.

429
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<v Speaker 1>So we spent summers up there. All the time up

430
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<v Speaker 1>there at the cabin had some you know, just weird stuff.

431
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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't tell you. Looking back is looking back knowing

432
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<v Speaker 1>what I know now. Looking back as a kid, yeah,

433
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<v Speaker 1>we may hear some tree knocks or herd somewhere. Sounds

434
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<v Speaker 1>always booed off of something else. But in ninety two, well,

435
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<v Speaker 1>my mom had had an encounter with one in the

436
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<v Speaker 1>mid eighties. So I grew up with bigfoot. I was

437
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<v Speaker 1>a kid in the library checking out books on bigfoot.

438
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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid checking up books on UFOs A

439
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<v Speaker 1>Lotnus Monster. The lot of Monster was one of my

440
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<v Speaker 1>favorite ones when I was a kid. I don't know why.

441
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<v Speaker 1>I was fascinated with the Lotness Monster and Bigfoot haunted

442
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<v Speaker 1>houses and I was just a kid growing up. Joined

443
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<v Speaker 1>the army in nineteen ninety three. Yeah, went all over

444
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<v Speaker 1>the world, had a good time. In two thousand and well,

445
00:23:05.880 --> 00:23:10.279
<v Speaker 1>in ninety nine, I got assigned up Fort Hood and

446
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<v Speaker 1>lived in a Hauntae house there lived them, you know,

447
00:23:12.680 --> 00:23:17.640
<v Speaker 1>so which is totally different a scenario, but having you know,

448
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<v Speaker 1>paranormal and everything happened in my life. In two thousand

449
00:23:20.119 --> 00:23:25.519
<v Speaker 1>and two, my unit was doing a I was assigned

450
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<v Speaker 1>to a mechanize infantry excuse me at the time. So

451
00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:32.680
<v Speaker 1>they were doing a real quick table at gunnery. So

452
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<v Speaker 1>a table at gunnery and the military is so all

453
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<v Speaker 1>your your armor, your you know, your your tinkers, your Bradley's,

454
00:23:39.799 --> 00:23:44.160
<v Speaker 1>your artillery pieces, your aircraft, anything that you know, even

455
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<v Speaker 1>a lot in your basic infantry have to qualify as

456
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<v Speaker 1>a crew to be combat considered combat radio, if that

457
00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:58.079
<v Speaker 1>makes sense. So you have to go through a gunnery,

458
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<v Speaker 1>which is a series of you know, firing new respiring options,

459
00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:03.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, firing on the move, you know, hitting targets,

460
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<v Speaker 1>working together as the crew, and you have to be

461
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<v Speaker 1>able to qualify, so you're everybody has to be this

462
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<v Speaker 1>way so you can be considered combat ready by the government.

463
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<v Speaker 1>So this was in August of two thousand and two,

464
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<v Speaker 1>prior to everything over in Iraq kicking off, you know, Afghanistan,

465
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<v Speaker 1>and it was already a thing. We were gearing up

466
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<v Speaker 1>for Iraq, so everybody was rushing right now to get qualified. Well,

467
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<v Speaker 1>the unit was also trying to rush through and get

468
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<v Speaker 1>people to be EIB qualified, which is Expert Instrument Badge,

469
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<v Speaker 1>and that's a series of tests you have to go

470
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<v Speaker 1>through as an insurant soldier to earn this badge, and

471
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<v Speaker 1>it's one of the hardest badges to earn in the infantry.

472
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, excluding obviously you know Ranger and airboar.

473
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<v Speaker 1>You know, we ranger and Special Forces stuff, and this

474
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<v Speaker 1>is a badge that says you're an expert in your field.

475
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<v Speaker 1>So the unit was doing two things at once. I

476
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<v Speaker 1>was e I B, so I was I earned my

477
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<v Speaker 1>EIB already, so I s cadre and I had a

478
00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:04.240
<v Speaker 1>lane I was supposed to be setting up and getting

479
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<v Speaker 1>qualified for them to come through. But yet I got

480
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<v Speaker 1>tasked to be put on guard duty for the ammunition

481
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<v Speaker 1>that they were using them for the gunnery site. So

482
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<v Speaker 1>this is known as the Aha story. We call it

483
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<v Speaker 1>an Ammunition Holding Area AJ so aha, you know, almost

484
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<v Speaker 1>like the van from the eighties. That's my little joke.

485
00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:31.680
<v Speaker 1>But so, normally would you do guard duty on ammunition

486
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<v Speaker 1>site saying thing for not with the unit. And for

487
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<v Speaker 1>some reason, this location where they put the ammunition at

488
00:25:38.799 --> 00:25:43.880
<v Speaker 1>wasn't near the range. They actually had to drive I

489
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<v Speaker 1>think about a half a mile to get the AAMO,

490
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<v Speaker 1>you know, and drop off brass and links, and then

491
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<v Speaker 1>drive back to deliver them the fresh ammo. It was

492
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<v Speaker 1>out in the middle of nowhere. And normally you have

493
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<v Speaker 1>a radio and you have a weapon because you're supposed

494
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<v Speaker 1>to have this a guard you know, ammunition. My first

495
00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:03.720
<v Speaker 1>day there, I got there, expected to sign for the radio,

496
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<v Speaker 1>expecting and signed for the weapon. Nothing. The guy I relieved,

497
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<v Speaker 1>Sergeant m He was like, no, dude, they just do

498
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<v Speaker 1>this together. And this is carried up, you know, surrounded

499
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<v Speaker 1>by constina wire. Here's a camo. Neet here we go.

500
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<v Speaker 1>Now this is in august in Fort Had, Texas. So

501
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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be obviously hotter than you know, the

502
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<v Speaker 1>back doors of eighties. So first day there nothing. So

503
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<v Speaker 1>when you pull twenty four duty in the military, you're

504
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<v Speaker 1>on for twenty four hours. You're technically off for twenty

505
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<v Speaker 1>four hours, then you do then you go back to

506
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<v Speaker 1>the little work schedule. For me, it was on for

507
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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, off for twenty four back to the IV site.

508
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<v Speaker 1>Then it had to come back to do another round

509
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<v Speaker 1>of guard. So my second morning showing up for guard,

510
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<v Speaker 1>I went to leave Sergeant Am. I got there and

511
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<v Speaker 1>he looked tired. He was had bags in his eyes.

512
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<v Speaker 1>He and you tell us slept and you do sleep

513
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<v Speaker 1>on guard, did he? It's I mean you're I mean yeah,

514
00:27:06.640 --> 00:27:09.400
<v Speaker 1>that's everybody. Yes, yeah, this is one of those things

515
00:27:09.480 --> 00:27:13.960
<v Speaker 1>you rotate sleep, you have great rest, it's chill. It's

516
00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:17.480
<v Speaker 1>an easy detail to pull, so when you're off for

517
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:19.079
<v Speaker 1>twenty four you're not sleeping. It's kind of nice to

518
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:21.759
<v Speaker 1>get a full day off of work. But so I

519
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:25.319
<v Speaker 1>got there and started to am he uh was tired,

520
00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:27.559
<v Speaker 1>And I asked him and said, man, did you not

521
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<v Speaker 1>sleep last night? And he goes, no, no, we slept

522
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<v Speaker 1>in the bed of my truck. We had coyotes coming

523
00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:37.440
<v Speaker 1>in all night, and I was like, oh, all right,

524
00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:41.839
<v Speaker 1>so you know coyotes on military basis, they're going to

525
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:44.559
<v Speaker 1>they know where soldiers are at. So we leave trash behind,

526
00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:47.559
<v Speaker 1>we leave food behind, we leave mr trash behind. So food,

527
00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean they're going to come in and get it.

528
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<v Speaker 1>Go back to watch coyote go and grab a guy's

529
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<v Speaker 1>boot that was besides sleeping bag that he was sleeping

530
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<v Speaker 1>the end at the time, and he was about fifteen

531
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<v Speaker 1>minutes away. We're yelling at the coyote. He grab the

532
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:01.599
<v Speaker 1>boot and took off front of who the woods? What

533
00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:07.759
<v Speaker 1>is this where kids come back? Boot? But so sergeant

534
00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:11.559
<v Speaker 1>m leaves, we get you know, we're sitting there and

535
00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I got my little book out. It's a quiet morning,

536
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:17.960
<v Speaker 1>nothing's happening. And I got two kids that were in

537
00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:21.160
<v Speaker 1>my company, in a different platoon, so they weren't you know,

538
00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:25.640
<v Speaker 1>technically you know, my in my my soldiers, but they're

539
00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:29.400
<v Speaker 1>so soldiers and I didn't want to eat an MRI.

540
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:33.160
<v Speaker 1>So probably about mid morning I couldn't leave the site

541
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<v Speaker 1>and I told the guys, I said, hey, I got

542
00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:38.319
<v Speaker 1>twenty bucks. It wants to run down the post real quick.

543
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Get some whoppers. We'll have whoppers for lunch, like oh yeah, hey,

544
00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:44.200
<v Speaker 1>so you know, the one kid goes I'll do it

545
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>so again in twenty bucks. He drives down to a

546
00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>main post, Golsberger King gets the uh the whoppers, and

547
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:56.039
<v Speaker 1>by he comes back with twenty dollars worth of whoppers.

548
00:28:56.599 --> 00:28:58.519
<v Speaker 1>This was a ton of whoppers. This is an O two,

549
00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:03.279
<v Speaker 1>So twenty dollars is this a ton of whoppers? So

550
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:06.000
<v Speaker 1>we eat our field. We got these leftover whoppers. And

551
00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:09.960
<v Speaker 1>the most dangerous creature in the world is a bored

552
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:13.960
<v Speaker 1>infantryman soldier. It really is. You get board grunts and

553
00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:18.960
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna get really, really, really creative. So I'm going

554
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:20.960
<v Speaker 1>to refer to these kids from here on us, Daniel

555
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:25.039
<v Speaker 1>Boone and David Crockett. They start making bows and arrows

556
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:29.039
<v Speaker 1>and they're making spears and they're they're bored and there's

557
00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>nothing to do, and we're in the woods and you know,

558
00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:35.960
<v Speaker 1>we're talking and when you know, soldiers talk about everything

559
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:43.160
<v Speaker 1>from you know, women, to bear stories, hometown stories, religion, movies,

560
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>everything all under the sun. Well, these, you know, David

561
00:29:47.400 --> 00:29:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Crockett then will be decided to get creative. And they

562
00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>asked me if they could take the leftover whoppers and

563
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:56.599
<v Speaker 1>go make some traps for the the coages that were

564
00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:01.279
<v Speaker 1>asking Sergeant End the night before, and of course, sure,

565
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:04.599
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, sure, go ahead. You know one kids from Ohio,

566
00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:07.839
<v Speaker 1>the other kids from no New York. So go go

567
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:11.240
<v Speaker 1>make you some good traps. You you go do that,

568
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>if you know what I mean. So they did. They

569
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.640
<v Speaker 1>went out and they sapt three traps, which was yeah,

570
00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:20.799
<v Speaker 1>I didn't care. I had a book. I was happy

571
00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:27.079
<v Speaker 1>snack on supremechels and be in August. The sun goes

572
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<v Speaker 1>down later in the day, you know that, So it's

573
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<v Speaker 1>probably you got dark probably between eight thirty nine o'clock

574
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<v Speaker 1>that night, and I had a little flashlight with me

575
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<v Speaker 1>and I was stretched out underneath the camel came on

576
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:48.839
<v Speaker 1>that leaning up against my rucksack, I believe, and just

577
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:51.759
<v Speaker 1>snacking and reading my book, and they were standing outside.

578
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:53.519
<v Speaker 1>The came on. It was a small little came on,

579
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<v Speaker 1>a probably you know, five by five, and they both

580
00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:00.680
<v Speaker 1>said well, one of them said did you hear that?

581
00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:04.480
<v Speaker 1>And that For some reason that perked my attention, and

582
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:09.240
<v Speaker 1>I looked up at him. I said, here, what like,

583
00:31:09.240 --> 00:31:11.759
<v Speaker 1>will sergeant sounding some we dropped the half field of

584
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:16.839
<v Speaker 1>canteen on the ground. And if you've ever heard, you

585
00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:20.839
<v Speaker 1>know our canteens, they're half field. They drop on the ground.

586
00:31:20.839 --> 00:31:22.480
<v Speaker 1>They do make it to sin kind of a thunk.

587
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>It's a really unique sound, just it's it's a thunk.

588
00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:32.400
<v Speaker 1>So I'm sitting there now. The job is the ammunition

589
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:36.480
<v Speaker 1>area is about four hundred meters away from the hardball,

590
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:42.240
<v Speaker 1>to the west of the hardball. So the hardball is

591
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:44.200
<v Speaker 1>a hard paved ro that everybody drives on. We have

592
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>in our neighbors. We call those hardball roads, so Pedro's

593
00:31:47.480 --> 00:31:50.400
<v Speaker 1>hardball Brian parallel. That was the taint trail. That's where

594
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>the track vehicles drive on the roads so they don't

595
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>tear up the asphalt or they concrete. So four hundred

596
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:00.440
<v Speaker 1>meters from to the east of the hardball, down this

597
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:03.599
<v Speaker 1>tink trail was where we were set up at and

598
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.240
<v Speaker 1>to where the ammunition, which would have been in front

599
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:11.160
<v Speaker 1>of me was. That was a wide open clearing, probably

600
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:14.839
<v Speaker 1>about a good one hundred and fifty yards completely wide,

601
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:17.559
<v Speaker 1>almost maybe two football fields wide. Two hundred yards wide.

602
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:21.319
<v Speaker 1>Across the other end side of that was a thicket

603
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:24.359
<v Speaker 1>of trees and they had a clear cut through there

604
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>like they were gonna put telephone poles up at one

605
00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:29.279
<v Speaker 1>point in time, So it looked like a neat little

606
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:32.880
<v Speaker 1>alley where the camouflage nanting was set up. Right to

607
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>the right of it was a thicket. Behind the thicket

608
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.359
<v Speaker 1>was a dirt berm that ran up about five feet

609
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:42.880
<v Speaker 1>tall and sloped down towards the east down to the ground.

610
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:46.279
<v Speaker 1>And right past that was where the humbie would come

611
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:50.960
<v Speaker 1>in through the ammunition area. Okay, and the ammunition from

612
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.839
<v Speaker 1>where we were at the camera net was probably a

613
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:59.319
<v Speaker 1>good fifteen twenty meters away a little bit probably about

614
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<v Speaker 1>our one o'clock issue. And then right behind us on

615
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:06.400
<v Speaker 1>the other side of the little tank trail that we

616
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:09.759
<v Speaker 1>drove down to get to the side was thick woods.

617
00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:13.000
<v Speaker 1>It was really really thick woods. Trying to kind of

618
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<v Speaker 1>give you get a picture description.

619
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<v Speaker 2>Is this all within the bases boundaries or is it

620
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:21.079
<v Speaker 2>on the outskirts of the base?

621
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<v Speaker 1>Now? This all? Yeah? Forehood is huge. This was on

622
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:26.880
<v Speaker 1>north for Hood, which we never trained. Yeah. I got

623
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<v Speaker 1>there ninety nine and even in O two and never

624
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:32.480
<v Speaker 1>been that side of Fourhood. Four Hood is besides you

625
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:35.759
<v Speaker 1>know NTC for his one of the largest military stallations

626
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>in the world. There's so much training ground out there.

627
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>They own so much property, it is ridiculous. I mean,

628
00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>you could train for days and days and days and

629
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:48.839
<v Speaker 1>not go to saying spoty again. So yeah, we're still

630
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>on the confines of fore hood. Yeah, at this time,

631
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>because Arrange was further north of US, about a mile

632
00:33:57.519 --> 00:33:59.160
<v Speaker 1>or so up the road for the north of US.

633
00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay it, I mean, it's that far away to where

634
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:04.240
<v Speaker 1>we could not hear them firing at night. You're gonna

635
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:06.039
<v Speaker 1>hear a twenty five millimeters auto kind of go off

636
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:07.759
<v Speaker 1>at not you're gonna hear them boom boom boom boom

637
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:11.239
<v Speaker 1>boom boom boom boom boom boom. It was far away,

638
00:34:11.239 --> 00:34:17.719
<v Speaker 1>we couldn't hear anything. So the kids describe, you know,

639
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:22.519
<v Speaker 1>hearing this funk. And I'm sitting there and what sounded

640
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.639
<v Speaker 1>like a car to me coming from the east on

641
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the hardball sounded like it hit like a pothole or

642
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:31.440
<v Speaker 1>a manhole cover hit something made a weird noisy. But

643
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:34.280
<v Speaker 1>you just I heard a car and it echoed back

644
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:36.679
<v Speaker 1>and forth, and I went, that's what you guys heard.

645
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:39.599
<v Speaker 1>Y'all heard somebody driving down the road and the sound

646
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:42.559
<v Speaker 1>echoed through and they were adamant. They said, no, it's

647
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:44.760
<v Speaker 1>it's not what we heard. It's not where we heard.

648
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:47.679
<v Speaker 1>It's not where we heard. And I was like, oh whatever,

649
00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:52.599
<v Speaker 1>and you know, holding my books still. And that's when

650
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:56.039
<v Speaker 1>I realized that the direction where they said the sound

651
00:34:56.119 --> 00:35:02.199
<v Speaker 1>came from, there was no crickets. There was no oh noise.

652
00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:06.039
<v Speaker 1>It was quite to my right you could hear everything.

653
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:08.159
<v Speaker 1>Behind me, I could hear everything, but coming to my left,

654
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:12.119
<v Speaker 1>which was to the west, there was nothing. It was

655
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:16.880
<v Speaker 1>just quiet. And then the sound picked up, you know,

656
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean went the normal and to my right now

657
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:24.559
<v Speaker 1>towards the hardball, it got quiet. So it was just

658
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:28.360
<v Speaker 1>something walked, you know, from the west to the east

659
00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:32.800
<v Speaker 1>out there past us. And I remember sitting and thinking, okay,

660
00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:37.280
<v Speaker 1>all right, that's odd. And then they did foot flop

661
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:39.760
<v Speaker 1>sound picked up to the to my right, which was

662
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:43.679
<v Speaker 1>to the east, and got it quite over to my left,

663
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:47.760
<v Speaker 1>which was to the west. And I mean it wasn't

664
00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:50.239
<v Speaker 1>like a quick unis every five minutes. It was a

665
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:55.440
<v Speaker 1>distinct quiet therefore a minute, if that makes sense, for

666
00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:57.519
<v Speaker 1>a good a little bit, but pret good fifteen twenty minutes,

667
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:00.239
<v Speaker 1>and then slowly picked back up again, and it was

668
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:03.679
<v Speaker 1>enough where when the guys heard it, they caught on.

669
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:08.199
<v Speaker 1>And now because I was looking this on to the

670
00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:11.800
<v Speaker 1>west and trying to see what I could see if

671
00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:14.719
<v Speaker 1>anything was moving out there, and he caught on. I

672
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:17.360
<v Speaker 1>looked at me and goes, kind of quiet, isn't it sorry?

673
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:19.480
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, sure is. They left it at that, you

674
00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:23.199
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. And now my mind I'm thinking

675
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:26.360
<v Speaker 1>there's somebody out here. And then all of a sudden,

676
00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:30.000
<v Speaker 1>everything went the normal. All sounding came the normal, and

677
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:33.280
<v Speaker 1>our home be drove down the road. The tank trail

678
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Humby showed up to drop off spent brass and links

679
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:42.159
<v Speaker 1>to drop it off. So when they fired, it kicks out,

680
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:45.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, the shelves bright we call him brass, and

681
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:48.360
<v Speaker 1>the links from the the twenty five millimeter and from

682
00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:51.880
<v Speaker 1>the coax the SEM sixty machine gun that has. So

683
00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:55.000
<v Speaker 1>they're dropping the boxes spent brass and links, and they're

684
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:57.440
<v Speaker 1>picking up more. And I was sign up for everything,

685
00:36:57.840 --> 00:36:59.960
<v Speaker 1>and I looked over. I was talking to the humpy

686
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:04.039
<v Speaker 1>driver and I looked over to the camel net and

687
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:05.840
<v Speaker 1>realized that my kim light was gone. It was a

688
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:09.440
<v Speaker 1>green cam light. So the you know, the the gull sticks.

689
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:10.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

690
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:14.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So we call them kim lights chemical light because

691
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:17.400
<v Speaker 1>that's that's what the army calls them. These are chemical lights.

692
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:21.599
<v Speaker 1>So my kim light was gone and I was like, okay,

693
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:23.639
<v Speaker 1>that's odd, and I was expecting I guess one of

694
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:26.880
<v Speaker 1>my soldiers had grabbed it and was using it to

695
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:31.760
<v Speaker 1>help see to put ammunition into the holeman area. And

696
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:33.840
<v Speaker 1>about that time was when I want to say, David,

697
00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:36.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, Crocker came up to me pass to the

698
00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:40.159
<v Speaker 1>cam light. I didn't have the kim light, and the

699
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:42.760
<v Speaker 1>driver of the humby gave me a full box of camlins.

700
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:45.679
<v Speaker 1>Was nice, and we know we shot the ship for

701
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:49.559
<v Speaker 1>a few more minutes and then they left and we

702
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:52.679
<v Speaker 1>get back over to the camel net and they were

703
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:54.920
<v Speaker 1>both freaked out at this point in time because the

704
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:59.519
<v Speaker 1>kimlight was gone and this sounds you know, the light

705
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:07.000
<v Speaker 1>of knew he said from before. So we had a

706
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:09.519
<v Speaker 1>conversation and I fully expected this time to see my

707
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:14.760
<v Speaker 1>kim light bounce them through the woods like they coyote

708
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:16.719
<v Speaker 1>had it or Jerry had like an animal. I came

709
00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:18.360
<v Speaker 1>in and grabbed it and took off front with us.

710
00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:20.880
<v Speaker 1>So I expect you to see run around in my

711
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:22.920
<v Speaker 1>mind at this point time is everything is natural. There's

712
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:25.639
<v Speaker 1>no supernatural, there's no crypto, there's no paranormal. There's nothing

713
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:30.480
<v Speaker 1>happening if there's no point in time, right, that's the

714
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:34.960
<v Speaker 1>only guys said, I, you know what, somebody's out here

715
00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:38.639
<v Speaker 1>messing with us. There's another unit out here training. That's

716
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:41.199
<v Speaker 1>got to be They think either were the out four

717
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:44.840
<v Speaker 1>or with the blue floor and they're moving around this

718
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:47.559
<v Speaker 1>that's what they're doing. No, we have no nods, we

719
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:49.599
<v Speaker 1>have no weapons, we have nothing. We can't see nothing

720
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:53.519
<v Speaker 1>in the dark work completely yet handicap. I said, so

721
00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:56.039
<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna do. All these camlis we got, we're

722
00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:59.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna go mark Ah, We're gonna go to every picket

723
00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:01.880
<v Speaker 1>and put a cam up on every picket to let

724
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:05.840
<v Speaker 1>everybody know we're here. Yep, they didn't pop that much light,

725
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:10.320
<v Speaker 1>but there's another training out there. They're gonna realize something's up.

726
00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:14.320
<v Speaker 1>So they're like, okay, and I said, plastic give it's

727
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:16.360
<v Speaker 1>just a little bit of light to wash the mo

728
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:20.119
<v Speaker 1>So something moves, we'll see it. So they get up

729
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:21.760
<v Speaker 1>with me and I got a little pen light out

730
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:24.760
<v Speaker 1>and get it. The first picket, I crack it. I can't.

731
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:28.119
<v Speaker 1>I marked the picket, walk down the wire, headed towards

732
00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:32.079
<v Speaker 1>the to the east, and I get to that corner

733
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:34.400
<v Speaker 1>and I stand there, my backs to the west. I'm

734
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:36.840
<v Speaker 1>facing the east. I stand there and crack it, I

735
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:41.880
<v Speaker 1>mark it. And all this happened simultaneously. In ersecond, everything simultaneously.

736
00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:46.159
<v Speaker 1>I turned the corner to head north, and as I do,

737
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:49.559
<v Speaker 1>I take one step, I step into a cold spot

738
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:53.320
<v Speaker 1>that was so cold I saw my breath in the

739
00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:57.719
<v Speaker 1>light of the flashlight. Okay, same time I'm stepping this

740
00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:01.960
<v Speaker 1>cold spot, I hear a thunk, the distinct half canteen

741
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:04.639
<v Speaker 1>sound thunk. I hear the sound coming to the same

742
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:07.840
<v Speaker 1>direction I heard from, which is the west, and I'm

743
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:10.159
<v Speaker 1>whipping to my head. I'm trying to step back and look,

744
00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:13.440
<v Speaker 1>and David Crockett and Daniel Boone a freaking out, like

745
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:16.159
<v Speaker 1>he did you hear it? I'm like, yeah, shut up,

746
00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to step back in this cold spot that's

747
00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:23.559
<v Speaker 1>not there anymore. So they're freaking out, and I'm watching

748
00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:26.480
<v Speaker 1>to the west because now I hear there's somebody. It's again,

749
00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:29.480
<v Speaker 1>it's a canteen. There's somebody physically out there with us.

750
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:33.840
<v Speaker 1>We go around with finished marking the ammunition area, we

751
00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:37.400
<v Speaker 1>go back to the camel net and they were always excited.

752
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember what the conversation was about. I said,

753
00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>this was, you know, about twenty three years ago, So

754
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:47.199
<v Speaker 1>now do you remember at one point though I don't

755
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:49.960
<v Speaker 1>remember what made me decide to do it, And I

756
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:51.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it was still the sounds going up

757
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:54.239
<v Speaker 1>and down to left and right of me, but I

758
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:55.639
<v Speaker 1>pulled this out of the camel on net and I

759
00:40:55.760 --> 00:41:02.039
<v Speaker 1>moved this in between the thicket and this little thinket bush,

760
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:05.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean briar patch kind of thing. It was probably

761
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:07.280
<v Speaker 1>about three and a half into four feet tall, but

762
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:10.159
<v Speaker 1>really really thick they kind of thickness of our rabbit

763
00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:13.519
<v Speaker 1>won't run into, you know what I mean. Yeah, And

764
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:16.119
<v Speaker 1>to my left was the ammunition. But the thing it

765
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:19.039
<v Speaker 1>was like a foot away from me. I stressed my

766
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:21.320
<v Speaker 1>arm out was probably another foot before it was right there.

767
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:25.239
<v Speaker 1>I thought, guys were in a squat down and we're

768
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:27.159
<v Speaker 1>going to catch whoever is out here messing with us.

769
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:30.920
<v Speaker 1>And we dropped on down to a three c superimeter.

770
00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:35.079
<v Speaker 1>I was facing to the east and I had you know,

771
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:38.400
<v Speaker 1>boon on one shoulder, and cracking on the other shoulder,

772
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:40.960
<v Speaker 1>and they're facing different directions. So I was covering from

773
00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:44.760
<v Speaker 1>here and they were recovering, overlapping all around us. And

774
00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:48.719
<v Speaker 1>within a matter of minutes of doing this, something by

775
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:55.800
<v Speaker 1>peal starts walking towards me. I've been in the woods

776
00:41:56.400 --> 00:42:01.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot. I've had people a lot years of training

777
00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:05.119
<v Speaker 1>and walking and listening and ambushing and knowing what people

778
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:06.519
<v Speaker 1>are going to sound like for them walking through the

779
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:08.119
<v Speaker 1>woods and what they're going to walk. And I know

780
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:11.440
<v Speaker 1>what deer sounds like, and I know the rusty sound

781
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:12.719
<v Speaker 1>of a rabbit going to be like, you know what

782
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:16.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, or an armydello or something. I know this stuff.

783
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean in the infantry, we don't we don't sit

784
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:23.480
<v Speaker 1>in the barracks all the time we're out training. So

785
00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:28.639
<v Speaker 1>this bipedal thing starts walking towards me. And there was

786
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:32.360
<v Speaker 1>no moon out yet. It was the starlight, and there

787
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:35.599
<v Speaker 1>was a cluster trees to the distance, and I was

788
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:38.199
<v Speaker 1>squading down, getting my head lower and lower and lower

789
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:41.440
<v Speaker 1>to try and silhouette whatever was coming to me, if

790
00:42:41.480 --> 00:42:44.199
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense. So I could kind of get a

791
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:49.519
<v Speaker 1>good you know what was happening. And Brandon, they probably

792
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:52.079
<v Speaker 1>got about four feet in front of me by sound alone,

793
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:54.639
<v Speaker 1>of course, I'm guessing at this point in time, it's dark.

794
00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:56.280
<v Speaker 1>I can't see nothing, and it sounds like it's about

795
00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>four feet in front of me. I turned the flashlight

796
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:03.239
<v Speaker 1>on and well went back and forth turning flashlight on.

797
00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:09.519
<v Speaker 1>It's just walking closer. Uh, I'll give it name away.

798
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Crocket on my left kept saying, oh crap, oh crap,

799
00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:15.559
<v Speaker 1>oh crap. But it wasn't crap he was saying, and

800
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:17.599
<v Speaker 1>I ended up. I was elbowing him to shut him up,

801
00:43:18.199 --> 00:43:20.639
<v Speaker 1>as he would, you know, I mean, oh crap, crap, crap,

802
00:43:20.639 --> 00:43:25.039
<v Speaker 1>So I was elbowing him. This incomes walking in four

803
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:31.039
<v Speaker 1>feet turn the flashlight on and all simultaneously. Again. As

804
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I turn the light on, nothing's in front of me.

805
00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:39.119
<v Speaker 1>Immediately to my right and a thicket something bolts and runs.

806
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:44.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you hear somebody get up and run. You've

807
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:46.159
<v Speaker 1>been the whist before, you know. It sounds like somebody

808
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:50.519
<v Speaker 1>jumps up and runs, right, Yeah, somebody something jumped up

809
00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:54.360
<v Speaker 1>and ram I jump up at this time. So you

810
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:59.000
<v Speaker 1>got my flashlight on. Then I'm running around the thicket.

811
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:00.559
<v Speaker 1>So I'm running parallel to the thinke it to go

812
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:03.639
<v Speaker 1>up on top of the dirt berm to try and

813
00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:10.360
<v Speaker 1>intercept whoever's just bolted right. Uh, the guy who was

814
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:13.239
<v Speaker 1>on my left crockett again, We'll just go crock it.

815
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:16.719
<v Speaker 1>He was right behind me. As I was running forward,

816
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:20.360
<v Speaker 1>I got on top of the berm brand this giant

817
00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:26.719
<v Speaker 1>rock lands behind me. Bomp, bump. You've thrown big rocks before.

818
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:29.119
<v Speaker 1>You've seen big rocks thrown before. You don't only hit

819
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:31.719
<v Speaker 1>that dump they do that too. Thump skip, yeah right

820
00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:36.599
<v Speaker 1>they just in yeah, I thump, thump, and I stopped

821
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:40.360
<v Speaker 1>and I whipped around and again at the bottom of

822
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:42.599
<v Speaker 1>the berm, let's crock it. So I go back down

823
00:44:42.639 --> 00:44:46.440
<v Speaker 1>the crocket and I grab him by this beaky top

824
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:48.719
<v Speaker 1>and I'm pulling face to face and I'm like, if

825
00:44:48.760 --> 00:44:51.280
<v Speaker 1>this is you, fers FM with me, I'm going to

826
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:54.280
<v Speaker 1>f And there's a lot of fing going on this conversation.

827
00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:58.719
<v Speaker 1>As I'm yelling at him and threatening him and you know,

828
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:06.360
<v Speaker 1>no and open his life, I realized he's crying. Brain

829
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:14.559
<v Speaker 1>He's literally I mean, this is a trained infantry soldier crying, crying,

830
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:20.000
<v Speaker 1>scared to death. As I got to face to face

831
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:23.280
<v Speaker 1>and I realized that he's crying behind me in the woods.

832
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:26.920
<v Speaker 1>We just talked about this, not at at twigs snap,

833
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:32.719
<v Speaker 1>not a branch break, a log break, you know how

834
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:37.440
<v Speaker 1>when a log you know, we sound, you know what

835
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about, loud, loud crumble. And I pushed him

836
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:48.159
<v Speaker 1>off of me, run over the berm, and I crossed

837
00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:54.400
<v Speaker 1>the tank trail and I get probably about fifteen feet

838
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:57.519
<v Speaker 1>into the woods. You give a little flashlight on, and

839
00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:00.039
<v Speaker 1>this is this is good, you know everything say this

840
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:02.400
<v Speaker 1>is all flat, which it is, and there's no trees on.

841
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:05.360
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of trees out there, and this was

842
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:12.719
<v Speaker 1>thick and it was just black. This is always a

843
00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:14.199
<v Speaker 1>part of the story that I have a hard time with.

844
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:22.880
<v Speaker 1>It was so it was so dark in the woods

845
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:25.920
<v Speaker 1>with the light on, it felt like that my light

846
00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:31.840
<v Speaker 1>wasn't really working, if that made sense. It was extremely oppressive,

847
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:36.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, the until you felt that when people said

848
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:38.960
<v Speaker 1>the air is really heavy, it was really just just

849
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:43.320
<v Speaker 1>like crowdy was really pushing down on you. That's what

850
00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:45.360
<v Speaker 1>it felt like. And the funny part about it is

851
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:49.639
<v Speaker 1>is that my memory of this isn't of me from me,

852
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:52.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, looking from my own eyes, looking at myself

853
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:55.280
<v Speaker 1>at about the two o'clock, three o'clock positions, or I'm

854
00:46:55.320 --> 00:46:59.239
<v Speaker 1>looking at me, if that makes sense, probably about ten

855
00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:02.800
<v Speaker 1>feet away or so, watching me with a flashlight. Stop.

856
00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:05.920
<v Speaker 1>But I do remember the film that I had though

857
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:09.960
<v Speaker 1>was I needed to get out. I needed to get out.

858
00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:12.199
<v Speaker 1>I needed to get out. I needed to get out.

859
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I run run is Everything was telling me to run,

860
00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:32.800
<v Speaker 1>And it was quiet. Everything was that's quiet, and it's

861
00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:35.360
<v Speaker 1>real hard to I don't know. I had to be there,

862
00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:44.519
<v Speaker 1>but it was just right. So I backed out. I

863
00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:46.119
<v Speaker 1>remember that I slow back out of the woods, and

864
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:49.280
<v Speaker 1>I remember standing there on the tank trail facing the woods,

865
00:47:50.719 --> 00:48:02.320
<v Speaker 1>and I felt absolutely defeated. I had I just beat

866
00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:11.440
<v Speaker 1>emotionally physically, I was just I remember that looking at

867
00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:15.039
<v Speaker 1>the woods and like the woods were looking back at me.

868
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Until I turned my head to the right and I

869
00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:25.760
<v Speaker 1>saw my pickup truck and that little encling me percked

870
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:27.519
<v Speaker 1>up and I walked straight to my pickup truck. I

871
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:29.480
<v Speaker 1>fired up my truck and I turned the headlights on.

872
00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:32.000
<v Speaker 1>It lit those woods up like there was no tomorrow.

873
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:35.159
<v Speaker 1>It was great, Brandon. It was like the clouds part

874
00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:37.639
<v Speaker 1>of the sun were shining, angels were singing. Oh. It

875
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:41.920
<v Speaker 1>was amazing. I was ecstatic. I felt warm and happy again.

876
00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:46.519
<v Speaker 1>Life was amazing again, until I realized I was breaking

877
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:51.800
<v Speaker 1>noise and light discipline. How to maintain noise and light discipline?

878
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:56.880
<v Speaker 1>And again crap. So I turned my truck off, I

879
00:48:56.880 --> 00:49:00.719
<v Speaker 1>shut the head lights off. Everything got dark again, and

880
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:02.840
<v Speaker 1>of course it's still quiet. I just found my truck up.

881
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:05.360
<v Speaker 1>So whatever was happening, everything quite there at that point.

882
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:08.880
<v Speaker 1>But in two thousand and one this movie had come out,

883
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:12.440
<v Speaker 1>became a really big phenomenon. They made like fifteen of

884
00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:15.760
<v Speaker 1>them and called Fast and Furious.

885
00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:19.199
<v Speaker 2>M h, I think I've heard of it.

886
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:21.599
<v Speaker 1>I might have heard of it. So the first one

887
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:26.280
<v Speaker 1>came out, oh one, and everybody was doing the neon

888
00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:27.199
<v Speaker 1>lights and everything.

889
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Remember that, Yeah, they were doing that before that movie.

890
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:33.840
<v Speaker 2>I still remember because when I was I was sixteen

891
00:49:33.880 --> 00:49:37.440
<v Speaker 2>in two thousand before the movie came out, and I

892
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:40.079
<v Speaker 2>wanted lights under the car because a lot of people

893
00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:42.599
<v Speaker 2>were doing that. So it's definitely that era.

894
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:46.159
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, and being the service whar I was behind

895
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:49.559
<v Speaker 1>on everything. But yeah, so then it came out, I

896
00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:53.159
<v Speaker 1>was like, I want neons too, so they were illegal,

897
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:55.840
<v Speaker 1>especially on posts. You couldn't have neons, so I ended

898
00:49:55.920 --> 00:50:00.920
<v Speaker 1>up getting neons on my My wish wipers flew where

899
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:03.960
<v Speaker 1>we go, so on the midde of my truck, you

900
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:05.920
<v Speaker 1>know there. You know, it was really cool. We push

901
00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:08.199
<v Speaker 1>a button and was shoot straight up onto your windshield.

902
00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:10.719
<v Speaker 1>You don't do that anymore, I don't think so. But

903
00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I had. I had my wire up through a togo

904
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:16.039
<v Speaker 1>switch so I could turn it off and on and everything.

905
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:19.400
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, my truck was back up to

906
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:22.599
<v Speaker 1>the tail The tailgate of my truck was where the

907
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:26.760
<v Speaker 1>cameraet was at. Okay, right towards the camera net. So

908
00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:29.679
<v Speaker 1>I turned my kneons on and I was like, ah.

909
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I walked over to the camel at Barren and Crockett

910
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:39.559
<v Speaker 1>and Boone. Sorry I won't get a name away. They're

911
00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:44.320
<v Speaker 1>standing there pretty much hugging each other. Okay, I'm not

912
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:49.280
<v Speaker 1>being I mean, I'm seriously. I mean they were crying

913
00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:53.760
<v Speaker 1>and begging to leave, and we were getting into an argument,

914
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:56.400
<v Speaker 1>and I lit up a cigarette and I was like,

915
00:50:56.440 --> 00:50:59.000
<v Speaker 1>we can't leave, y'all, we can't. We have to stay.

916
00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:02.840
<v Speaker 1>They were begging to leave. I don't know what happened

917
00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:04.760
<v Speaker 1>to them while I was in the woods. Does that

918
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:05.239
<v Speaker 1>make sense?

919
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:06.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

920
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't share what happened in the woods with them.

921
00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:10.679
<v Speaker 1>They didn't share what happened, if anything happened at all

922
00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:15.559
<v Speaker 1>by the ammunition area. So I remember arguing with them

923
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:18.039
<v Speaker 1>and I turned my head towards my truck where then

924
00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:22.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, the neon lights were on right Brandon something

925
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:26.039
<v Speaker 1>watch in front of it. Then they winked out, you

926
00:51:26.039 --> 00:51:28.039
<v Speaker 1>know when you're walking from a light kind of does

927
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:32.320
<v Speaker 1>a little weeks out. I dropped my cigarette and I

928
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:34.440
<v Speaker 1>was there in a matter of seconds. So I was like,

929
00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I've got you. Now, I'm going back to there's somebody

930
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:42.440
<v Speaker 1>out here, there's another people aren't messing with us. Seconds

931
00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:44.880
<v Speaker 1>seconds of that, and then I was there at the

932
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:50.440
<v Speaker 1>front of my truck. Nobody nobody, nobody running down the

933
00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:53.880
<v Speaker 1>tank trail, nobody under the vehicles, nobody going anywhere, and

934
00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:55.639
<v Speaker 1>nobody ran into the woods. I would have hurt them,

935
00:51:55.880 --> 00:51:57.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean it was thick woods. You're gonna

936
00:51:57.800 --> 00:51:59.880
<v Speaker 1>make noise, especially night trying to run through the woods,

937
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:02.360
<v Speaker 1>even with trust me. Ever, great things like vision is

938
00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:04.840
<v Speaker 1>a great thing in the world. Try running it through

939
00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:06.800
<v Speaker 1>the woods with night vision on. You're gonna fall flat

940
00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:08.039
<v Speaker 1>on your face. I can promise you.

941
00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:10.679
<v Speaker 2>Well even if you're out on base too, like, it

942
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:13.559
<v Speaker 2>would have to have been someone else from a unit

943
00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:15.000
<v Speaker 2>out there screwed.

944
00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Around miles miles away from where you.

945
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:19.079
<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, it doesn't make sense for it to

946
00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:23.199
<v Speaker 2>be anyone, like just a random person that have no access.

947
00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:27.360
<v Speaker 2>I guess obviously they broke onto the base, but that

948
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:29.320
<v Speaker 2>doesn't make any sense why someone would do that just

949
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:31.000
<v Speaker 2>to come out learn and screw around with a couple.

950
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:33.679
<v Speaker 1>Of guys exactly, and not knowing whether we were armed

951
00:52:33.760 --> 00:52:33.960
<v Speaker 1>or not.

952
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:36.320
<v Speaker 2>That's that's asking to be shot.

953
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that's one of those Faranda

954
00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:45.800
<v Speaker 1>find out games, you know what I mean. But uh yeah,

955
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:50.039
<v Speaker 1>from there, Yeah, I walked back over and they were

956
00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:54.039
<v Speaker 1>staring at me, and I picked my cigarette up, and

957
00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:58.199
<v Speaker 1>I looked down and said, we're staying. And I sat down,

958
00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:03.960
<v Speaker 1>and my next memory is the moon coming up. And

959
00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:06.760
<v Speaker 1>it was about three o'clock in the morning, and there

960
00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:11.000
<v Speaker 1>was they were right there with me. There was crickets,

961
00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:14.000
<v Speaker 1>noises going on. And then my next memory is the

962
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:21.639
<v Speaker 1>sign coming up. So that morning suddenly comes up. Everybody's braver,

963
00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:26.960
<v Speaker 1>everybody's smarter, everybody's all figured out right, We're standing in

964
00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:29.719
<v Speaker 1>the air and I said, you know what, guys, I

965
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:33.280
<v Speaker 1>know what it was last night. You check your coyote traps.

966
00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:38.960
<v Speaker 1>You'll check those whoppers y'all left out there and they

967
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:43.639
<v Speaker 1>got excided. Oh so that's it. That's it. I'm pretty

968
00:53:43.639 --> 00:53:45.639
<v Speaker 1>proud of myself. Look I get it all figured out.

969
00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:51.039
<v Speaker 1>Sergeant Am had coyotes. We had coyotes. They started jumping

970
00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:54.159
<v Speaker 1>up and down and yelling my name. With the first whopper,

971
00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:59.320
<v Speaker 1>got the first trap, and I stroll on over. That

972
00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:01.800
<v Speaker 1>whopper had was unwrapped. They do unwrapped the whoppers out

973
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:03.960
<v Speaker 1>the packaging. They had said it on top of the wrapper.

974
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:08.480
<v Speaker 1>So it was an unwrapped whopper, completely untouched, completely intact,

975
00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:13.000
<v Speaker 1>had a few insects on it. That was it. Same

976
00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:16.000
<v Speaker 1>theme with the second one, same theme with the third one.

977
00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Nothing came in that night, coyote wise, animal wise, nothing

978
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:24.920
<v Speaker 1>wise came in and touched one of those whoppers.

979
00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:26.719
<v Speaker 2>I was going to ask you so much, want to

980
00:54:26.719 --> 00:54:30.800
<v Speaker 2>wait till you're done. So when you went into the

981
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:34.880
<v Speaker 2>woods and you said it was quiet, this is where

982
00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:40.599
<v Speaker 2>my mind goes to because if you listen to a

983
00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:43.159
<v Speaker 2>lot of people that have had these sort of experiences,

984
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:45.960
<v Speaker 2>they always say the wood like the woods go quiet.

985
00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:51.239
<v Speaker 2>You don't hear crickets anymore, you don't hear anything, like,

986
00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:56.119
<v Speaker 2>it's just dead silence. So I've been trying to figure

987
00:54:56.119 --> 00:54:58.760
<v Speaker 2>out why that is. Now. I know they claim that

988
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:01.960
<v Speaker 2>if there's predators or around or whatever, that you animals

989
00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:05.719
<v Speaker 2>get quiet. I think there's a little bit, a little

990
00:55:05.760 --> 00:55:09.360
<v Speaker 2>bit of a difference because you mentioned the feeling of

991
00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:13.199
<v Speaker 2>getting out of there like this is this is straight

992
00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:17.320
<v Speaker 2>wou over here. But yeah, I know, who's to say that.

993
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:23.199
<v Speaker 2>Let's just say these whatever this was because you didn't

994
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:25.239
<v Speaker 2>actually see it, So I won't call it a sass.

995
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:27.280
<v Speaker 2>I won't call a sas squad, I won't call a

996
00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:30.119
<v Speaker 2>dog man or whatever. But whatever this thing was was bipedal.

997
00:55:32.119 --> 00:55:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Who's to say? And I actually talked with Tony about

998
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:39.599
<v Speaker 2>this when I was on his show. It's like I

999
00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:43.000
<v Speaker 2>think he referred to as like a bridge, like it's

1000
00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:46.880
<v Speaker 2>like a bridge between worlds. Who's to say, Like when

1001
00:55:46.920 --> 00:55:49.519
<v Speaker 2>you stepped into those woods. The reason that people go

1002
00:55:50.039 --> 00:55:52.360
<v Speaker 2>like the things go silent because what if these things

1003
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:57.079
<v Speaker 2>are opening up a doorway. Everything looks normal to us,

1004
00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:01.239
<v Speaker 2>but when you step through it, you're in that bridge

1005
00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:04.960
<v Speaker 2>point between their world and our world. That makes sense,

1006
00:56:05.679 --> 00:56:06.079
<v Speaker 2>it does.

1007
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:08.000
<v Speaker 1>You're also tied in with the thump sound.

1008
00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:13.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So since I've talked to him, I've been thinking

1009
00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:14.760
<v Speaker 2>about this and I was like, I think there is

1010
00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:19.039
<v Speaker 2>more Like it makes sense because if these things are

1011
00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:23.400
<v Speaker 2>of a weird, different supernatural plane of existence or whatever

1012
00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:27.800
<v Speaker 2>these whatever they are, who knows, it does make sense

1013
00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:30.480
<v Speaker 2>that you don't hear the normal things because you're entering

1014
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:35.840
<v Speaker 2>an area even with like just say paranormal stuff cold spots,

1015
00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:41.719
<v Speaker 2>like is it something from the other side like when

1016
00:56:41.760 --> 00:56:44.920
<v Speaker 2>you're entering that. So the energy is different, the frequencies

1017
00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:50.679
<v Speaker 2>are different, everything's a little bit different because their world's

1018
00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:54.199
<v Speaker 2>merging into our world. Like That's how I've been trying

1019
00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:58.639
<v Speaker 2>to rationalize a lot of it, at least to make sense,

1020
00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:00.800
<v Speaker 2>which doesn't make sense, but it makes sense.

1021
00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:04.760
<v Speaker 1>No, No, I get it, And I'll be honest with you,

1022
00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Like like I was saying, you know, throughout the Home

1023
00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Pire night, you know, the first I mean, the thing

1024
00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:14.599
<v Speaker 1>walking towards me my mind was a man all the

1025
00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:16.559
<v Speaker 1>way through. All the way through this was a person

1026
00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:20.840
<v Speaker 1>coming up towards me. And when the rock got thrown

1027
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:23.480
<v Speaker 1>is an O two To be honest with you, never thought.

1028
00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:25.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was in the big Foot step, but

1029
00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:27.480
<v Speaker 1>my military career had a priority, so I was more

1030
00:57:27.480 --> 00:57:30.840
<v Speaker 1>into the military. Yeah, there'd be a TV show or documentary,

1031
00:57:30.960 --> 00:57:33.559
<v Speaker 1>I'd watch it. That'd be about it. But we didn't

1032
00:57:33.599 --> 00:57:36.519
<v Speaker 1>have time to watch TV shows. To be honest with you,

1033
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:39.400
<v Speaker 1>there's like I you're like eleven years of TV shows

1034
00:57:39.400 --> 00:57:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I never really watched. So I didn't thinking about bigfoot

1035
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:48.840
<v Speaker 1>and rock throwing until like, you know, this is No.

1036
00:57:48.960 --> 00:57:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Two until like about two thousand and nine, watching a

1037
00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:54.400
<v Speaker 1>documentary and they were talking about rocks being thrown at

1038
00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:56.320
<v Speaker 1>him in bolder sized rocks, and I was laying in

1039
00:57:56.360 --> 00:57:58.079
<v Speaker 1>bed watching it, sat up going, oh my god, that

1040
00:57:58.079 --> 00:58:01.880
<v Speaker 1>happened to me, you know. But that rock being thrones

1041
00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:04.480
<v Speaker 1>that really caught me off guard. And I thought it was,

1042
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:08.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, those guys carrying the rock running behind me,

1043
00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:10.159
<v Speaker 1>and that's where my mind was at. They were we're

1044
00:58:10.159 --> 00:58:13.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna start this rock, you know what I mean, and

1045
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:19.800
<v Speaker 1>going in the woods. What was really surreal about it,

1046
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:23.480
<v Speaker 1>again is I had no fear of running into the woods.

1047
00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:27.360
<v Speaker 1>I knew that's where they were at. I was making

1048
00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:29.800
<v Speaker 1>a bee line, but again I got ten fifteen feet

1049
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:36.239
<v Speaker 1>in there and it was. It was silent, and there's

1050
00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I have a flash of me looking at me from

1051
00:58:40.559 --> 00:58:45.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, would have been me's you know about two

1052
00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:49.360
<v Speaker 1>three o'clock position, which is surreal, and I'm holding a

1053
00:58:49.360 --> 00:58:52.920
<v Speaker 1>flashlight in the woods. You know what I mean?

1054
00:58:53.159 --> 00:58:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Right?

1055
00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:56.960
<v Speaker 1>But I don't you know, there's no assol I don't

1056
00:58:57.000 --> 00:59:00.360
<v Speaker 1>you know. No, none of that was just my memory

1057
00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:04.920
<v Speaker 1>is of that. But I but I remember just happened

1058
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:08.559
<v Speaker 1>to leave where you wanted to leave. You did not

1059
00:59:08.679 --> 00:59:10.480
<v Speaker 1>want to be there, and the feeling was so strong.

1060
00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:14.440
<v Speaker 1>My my guards were crying to leave, begging to leave.

1061
00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Did you ever ask them what happened?

1062
00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:20.800
<v Speaker 1>No? I never did. I did go up to Sarge

1063
00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:22.800
<v Speaker 1>so they were not my patunon. Sergeant n was my

1064
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:24.480
<v Speaker 1>patun and I ran to him a couple of days

1065
00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:27.679
<v Speaker 1>lay at the units, and I was kind of the

1066
00:59:27.679 --> 00:59:29.159
<v Speaker 1>wird guy was I was always in this stuff. So

1067
00:59:29.199 --> 00:59:31.519
<v Speaker 1>I would talk ghost stories and I would talk bigfoot stuff,

1068
00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:35.239
<v Speaker 1>and I was, you know, and uh, I said, hey, son,

1069
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:37.679
<v Speaker 1>let me ask the question. He goes, what's up? I said,

1070
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:40.559
<v Speaker 1>so that night guard duty when I re leaved, you

1071
00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:45.519
<v Speaker 1>coyotes And he looked me dead in the eye, very

1072
00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:50.440
<v Speaker 1>sternly went coyotes and went the whack away went whoa, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

1073
00:59:50.440 --> 00:59:54.360
<v Speaker 1>come back here, Oh no no, did you see the coyotes?

1074
00:59:54.599 --> 00:59:56.280
<v Speaker 1>And again he looked me stern in the eye and

1075
00:59:56.320 --> 01:00:01.039
<v Speaker 1>went coyotes and walked off. Now in the military, I

1076
01:00:01.039 --> 01:00:05.199
<v Speaker 1>didn't give a crap. I didn't care. I was. I mean, yeah,

1077
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:07.639
<v Speaker 1>I was as hard that you wanted to have but

1078
01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:10.199
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to have. I took care of my guys

1079
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:13.440
<v Speaker 1>that do what I trained up hard, and I was

1080
01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:16.320
<v Speaker 1>goofy I was. I was the fun goofy one. We're

1081
01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:17.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna goof off. We're gonna have a good time. We're

1082
01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:19.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna make training fun and realistic. And this is what

1083
01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:22.519
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do. I mean I if we were in

1084
01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:24.280
<v Speaker 1>the barracks, I would have my squad raid the other

1085
01:00:24.280 --> 01:00:27.039
<v Speaker 1>squad's bergsherms. Yeah we did. That's how I trained them,

1086
01:00:27.079 --> 01:00:31.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, so we did the little stuff

1087
01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:34.400
<v Speaker 1>like that. So yeah, we do. I got a lot

1088
01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:37.159
<v Speaker 1>of trouble too, by the way, got on to that yet,

1089
01:00:37.199 --> 01:00:42.559
<v Speaker 1>But you know, beide this point. The guys that came

1090
01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:44.480
<v Speaker 1>up to me about a week later, the guards Boone

1091
01:00:44.480 --> 01:00:49.159
<v Speaker 1>and Crockett did and they had we had. I had

1092
01:00:49.159 --> 01:00:52.079
<v Speaker 1>to map out how to get to this the guard side.

1093
01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:53.800
<v Speaker 1>We that's how we had to get there was by maps.

1094
01:00:54.280 --> 01:00:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, so there's like, okay, here's a grit warnt

1095
01:00:56.159 --> 01:00:58.639
<v Speaker 1>go okay, So I had a plot of grid and

1096
01:00:58.719 --> 01:01:01.159
<v Speaker 1>drive my vehicle out. Oh yeah it was. It was great.

1097
01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:04.000
<v Speaker 1>So that's how we had to get there. And they

1098
01:01:04.360 --> 01:01:07.679
<v Speaker 1>were like, hey, looks on there's an archaeological site probably

1099
01:01:07.719 --> 01:01:10.719
<v Speaker 1>about two thousand meters away. And I was like, yeah, look,

1100
01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:12.880
<v Speaker 1>then there's another one about two thousand meters away from

1101
01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:15.519
<v Speaker 1>that one, and there's another one over here, so four

1102
01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:18.719
<v Speaker 1>hoods on there on the on the maps have spots

1103
01:01:18.719 --> 01:01:21.239
<v Speaker 1>for archaeological sites. And they were and I bless her heart,

1104
01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:24.159
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to tie in what happened to us, and

1105
01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:26.119
<v Speaker 1>we were going with the paranormal that night, if that

1106
01:01:26.199 --> 01:01:28.719
<v Speaker 1>makes sense. That's the only time we ever talked was

1107
01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:33.760
<v Speaker 1>about about fifteen minutes that day. And they're like, it's

1108
01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:35.000
<v Speaker 1>going to be ghosts on and I was like, no,

1109
01:01:35.079 --> 01:01:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it was, just leave it alone.

1110
01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:38.920
<v Speaker 1>But you know, so let me go back to the

1111
01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:41.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, I left. You know, I got relieved by

1112
01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:44.880
<v Speaker 1>my relief and I went home and my ex wife

1113
01:01:44.920 --> 01:01:47.280
<v Speaker 1>when I got home, looked at me, and as she

1114
01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:49.360
<v Speaker 1>described it, I had bags under my eyes. So I

1115
01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:51.960
<v Speaker 1>looked like I had slept, I mean, and I don't

1116
01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:56.840
<v Speaker 1>remember sleeping, you know. I h Todd niece is a

1117
01:01:56.880 --> 01:01:59.199
<v Speaker 1>good friend of mine. He had an encounter ninety three

1118
01:01:59.559 --> 01:02:01.960
<v Speaker 1>with three sasquatch and he actually went through and did

1119
01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:06.320
<v Speaker 1>regressive hypnosis on it. He encounted to pull up more

1120
01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:09.639
<v Speaker 1>details as such. And we've talked about this before. He's

1121
01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:11.920
<v Speaker 1>encouraging me to go back because I have all this

1122
01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:16.840
<v Speaker 1>missing time from that night. Now, you know, after you know,

1123
01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:19.760
<v Speaker 1>the light, I thought we canna like sat down supt

1124
01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:23.639
<v Speaker 1>a cigarette. Then like the moon comes up four hours later,

1125
01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:26.920
<v Speaker 1>and then the sun comes up a few hours after that.

1126
01:02:27.880 --> 01:02:32.039
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea what took place in between, you know.

1127
01:02:32.519 --> 01:02:36.719
<v Speaker 1>So but that morning, though, my ex looked at me

1128
01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:40.480
<v Speaker 1>and she was like, ye are you okay? I mean,

1129
01:02:40.519 --> 01:02:43.519
<v Speaker 1>she's I mean, I look pale. I was shaken. I

1130
01:02:43.599 --> 01:02:45.840
<v Speaker 1>had bags under my eyes. I looked one hundred percent

1131
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:49.079
<v Speaker 1>ext I mean, just more and now. And I was like, yeah,

1132
01:02:49.239 --> 01:02:50.920
<v Speaker 1>when I kind of told her what happened, and she goes,

1133
01:02:50.960 --> 01:02:53.519
<v Speaker 1>that is so weird like yeah, And that evening we

1134
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:55.559
<v Speaker 1>were going to a buddy mine place and I mean

1135
01:02:55.639 --> 01:02:58.320
<v Speaker 1>his why we're having us sober, We're gonna barbecue, have

1136
01:02:58.400 --> 01:03:00.920
<v Speaker 1>some beers, that kind of thing, just kind of chill out.

1137
01:03:01.159 --> 01:03:02.920
<v Speaker 1>And when I got there, I was still shook up

1138
01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:04.679
<v Speaker 1>where you know. Sam looked at me and he goes,

1139
01:03:05.159 --> 01:03:06.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, hey, man, you all right? I said, no,

1140
01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I had the craziest night last night. And he goes,

1141
01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:14.119
<v Speaker 1>what I said, man, and again started off like you're

1142
01:03:14.119 --> 01:03:15.960
<v Speaker 1>not going to believe this shit. And I went and

1143
01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:19.960
<v Speaker 1>told him and he goes and don hervery. Sam was

1144
01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:24.239
<v Speaker 1>from uh Mexicial who immigrated on and became John Under.

1145
01:03:24.360 --> 01:03:26.559
<v Speaker 1>Sam goes, what do you want to do? I said,

1146
01:03:26.559 --> 01:03:28.159
<v Speaker 1>I want to get my truck and I'll drive back

1147
01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:32.599
<v Speaker 1>out there again. Then he goes, let's go. So we did.

1148
01:03:32.679 --> 01:03:34.639
<v Speaker 1>We got my truck and I drove right back to

1149
01:03:34.639 --> 01:03:36.840
<v Speaker 1>the guard site at night, about ten o'clock at the night.

1150
01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Drove all the way back up there, and when I

1151
01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:42.000
<v Speaker 1>got there, I was like, what I want to tell

1152
01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:44.679
<v Speaker 1>these guys why I'm here. And the guy that relieved me,

1153
01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:47.599
<v Speaker 1>he goes, hey, man, what are you doing here? I went, oh, dude,

1154
01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I man I had a knife back here last night

1155
01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:51.239
<v Speaker 1>and I can't find it and know if I dropped

1156
01:03:51.239 --> 01:03:52.880
<v Speaker 1>it out here or not. I'm doing if I look

1157
01:03:52.920 --> 01:03:55.599
<v Speaker 1>around for a minute, and I got my flashlight for

1158
01:03:55.679 --> 01:03:57.519
<v Speaker 1>Tim to look around the camel on that stuff, and

1159
01:03:57.559 --> 01:04:00.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm asking him how's everything going, And he's like, okay,

1160
01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:08.280
<v Speaker 1>he woke me up. You know, it felt normal standing

1161
01:04:08.320 --> 01:04:10.800
<v Speaker 1>there around looking around, and I even wandered off for

1162
01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:14.159
<v Speaker 1>a minute and I walked into the woods. Felt normal.

1163
01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Even with me driving down the road. There are still

1164
01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:20.920
<v Speaker 1>insects going on and crickets and everything happening. I mean,

1165
01:04:21.360 --> 01:04:24.800
<v Speaker 1>it was normal. And we got back to my truck

1166
01:04:24.840 --> 01:04:26.119
<v Speaker 1>and I let to say him. I was like, this

1167
01:04:26.159 --> 01:04:30.639
<v Speaker 1>is this feels normal and he goes, yeah, bro, and

1168
01:04:30.679 --> 01:04:33.320
<v Speaker 1>he goes, what do you think happens? Like I don't know.

1169
01:04:33.719 --> 01:04:35.840
<v Speaker 1>And I went back to his place, But yeah, I

1170
01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:37.840
<v Speaker 1>mean it's it felt normal.

1171
01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:42.440
<v Speaker 2>I am not a person of the woods. Like I

1172
01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:44.320
<v Speaker 2>don't mind going out in the woods during the day,

1173
01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:47.880
<v Speaker 2>the ones it gets overgrown like in the summertime and stuff.

1174
01:04:47.880 --> 01:04:50.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't like being out there because it's so thick.

1175
01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:53.119
<v Speaker 2>And you we discussed as earlier. I'm not a fan

1176
01:04:53.199 --> 01:04:56.239
<v Speaker 2>of certain creepy crawley things that are around in the

1177
01:04:56.239 --> 01:05:01.400
<v Speaker 2>woods all the time. So for me, like that's why

1178
01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I need to get all this stuff to finish this

1179
01:05:03.039 --> 01:05:06.320
<v Speaker 2>documentary before things get overgrown and you can't see anything anyways.

1180
01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:12.480
<v Speaker 2>But I'm not looking forward to going out in the

1181
01:05:12.480 --> 01:05:15.719
<v Speaker 2>woods at night time. That is the Like I'm not

1182
01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:18.199
<v Speaker 2>afraid of the dark, and I'm not afraid of the woods,

1183
01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:23.199
<v Speaker 2>but like just because it being the woods and it's

1184
01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:25.159
<v Speaker 2>dark and it's just me and it's one other person

1185
01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:30.000
<v Speaker 2>that gives it automatic creep factor because let's just say

1186
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:35.519
<v Speaker 2>that there isn't anything out there. It's the fact that

1187
01:05:35.559 --> 01:05:41.039
<v Speaker 2>you don't know and the darkness of not knowing what's

1188
01:05:41.199 --> 01:05:44.480
<v Speaker 2>just around that tree. Like I don't know, I've been

1189
01:05:44.519 --> 01:05:47.159
<v Speaker 2>excited for doing this, but that creep factor has set

1190
01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:50.400
<v Speaker 2>into me now that it's like, man, the days are

1191
01:05:50.400 --> 01:05:52.440
<v Speaker 2>getting close to go out there and start doing this,

1192
01:05:52.519 --> 01:05:55.599
<v Speaker 2>and now I'm like, shit, I actually have to go

1193
01:05:55.639 --> 01:05:56.559
<v Speaker 2>out there and do it.

1194
01:05:57.440 --> 01:06:00.519
<v Speaker 1>Because I'll be honest with you, there's I mean, it's

1195
01:06:00.559 --> 01:06:04.840
<v Speaker 1>been you know, I was in you know I would

1196
01:06:05.119 --> 01:06:08.400
<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, I stayed in obviously that's still in the

1197
01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:10.000
<v Speaker 1>military for a few more years. So I got hurt

1198
01:06:10.360 --> 01:06:12.440
<v Speaker 1>and I got out in before, so I spent a

1199
01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:14.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of time out the woods and you know, other

1200
01:06:14.440 --> 01:06:18.360
<v Speaker 1>countries at that time. But every once in a while,

1201
01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:20.400
<v Speaker 1>even out there training or whatnot in the woods at night,

1202
01:06:20.519 --> 01:06:23.119
<v Speaker 1>that would pop into my head. And now even now

1203
01:06:24.039 --> 01:06:27.119
<v Speaker 1>when I go out and do a night investigations, I

1204
01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:29.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie to you, I'm still a little, little,

1205
01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:31.880
<v Speaker 1>little little weary of it because of what took place

1206
01:06:33.320 --> 01:06:36.639
<v Speaker 1>on the Search of for Sasquatch episode. We do a

1207
01:06:36.719 --> 01:06:42.239
<v Speaker 1>night investigation and yeah, there are some weird stuff that

1208
01:06:42.280 --> 01:06:46.119
<v Speaker 1>happened to us and I actually have and we don't

1209
01:06:46.159 --> 01:06:47.360
<v Speaker 1>know if it kind of I don't know if it's

1210
01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:49.800
<v Speaker 1>on my camera. Jason won't tell me yet because as

1211
01:06:49.800 --> 01:06:53.199
<v Speaker 1>of recording, the episode hasn't dropped. But there's one part

1212
01:06:53.199 --> 01:06:56.039
<v Speaker 1>where the camera's on me and I'm standing and we're

1213
01:06:56.119 --> 01:06:58.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of on a line at this ridge that the

1214
01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:01.840
<v Speaker 1>little validy goes down and we're just kind of listening

1215
01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:05.079
<v Speaker 1>and just kind of doing our thing, and the camera

1216
01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:08.920
<v Speaker 1>was on me, and I had saw the stick on

1217
01:07:08.920 --> 01:07:10.840
<v Speaker 1>the ground and I was like, well, because we were

1218
01:07:10.920 --> 01:07:15.599
<v Speaker 1>coming in this valley, me and Todd niece heard movement

1219
01:07:16.159 --> 01:07:18.719
<v Speaker 1>something like you know rustling or Russian, you know rustling

1220
01:07:18.719 --> 01:07:22.519
<v Speaker 1>down right below us. Why it was daylight, and we

1221
01:07:22.559 --> 01:07:24.239
<v Speaker 1>both looked at Chilther I got quiet and kind of

1222
01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:26.800
<v Speaker 1>waked up, and we're kind of looking trying to look

1223
01:07:26.800 --> 01:07:29.280
<v Speaker 1>see if we've see anything moving down there. I was like, no, well,

1224
01:07:29.320 --> 01:07:31.599
<v Speaker 1>this weird stick was sitting there that then't fitting on

1225
01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:34.280
<v Speaker 1>the trees around me. And I was like, well, maybe

1226
01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:36.119
<v Speaker 1>this is where we heard the stick or something. And

1227
01:07:36.199 --> 01:07:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I turned around and I had uh todd Nissan on

1228
01:07:40.039 --> 01:07:44.199
<v Speaker 1>my head and something rushes it comes running up behind me.

1229
01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:47.079
<v Speaker 1>As I spun around, there was nothing there, and the

1230
01:07:47.119 --> 01:07:49.079
<v Speaker 1>camera guy caught and he sees I don't know if

1231
01:07:49.079 --> 01:07:50.960
<v Speaker 1>it was running. I don't know if we caught anything,

1232
01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:54.679
<v Speaker 1>but there's that part where you whip around. So but

1233
01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:58.599
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't nowhere near as freaky as that night.

1234
01:07:59.719 --> 01:08:04.760
<v Speaker 2>The fact that you didn't actually see it makes it

1235
01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:09.440
<v Speaker 2>a little more creepier. And that's just because, at least

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<v Speaker 2>to me, is you still don't know, and it's the

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01:08:16.399 --> 01:08:22.640
<v Speaker 2>unknown aspects of things that drive me crazy. Like I

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01:08:22.680 --> 01:08:25.760
<v Speaker 2>saw what I saw, and I still don't believe what

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01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:28.079
<v Speaker 2>I saw, and I want to know what I saw.

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01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:31.960
<v Speaker 2>So that the unknown aspect to that. If I didn't

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01:08:31.960 --> 01:08:34.119
<v Speaker 2>actually see anything, I think would actually drive me more

1242
01:08:34.159 --> 01:08:39.199
<v Speaker 2>crazy of trying to figure out exactly what made what

1243
01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:42.439
<v Speaker 2>wood in front of the lights? What was the sounds

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01:08:42.479 --> 01:08:47.119
<v Speaker 2>like that to me, like I said, that's I don't

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01:08:47.159 --> 01:08:49.439
<v Speaker 2>not to describe it basically, like that would be the

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01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:51.840
<v Speaker 2>thing that would eat away at me. Is not knowing

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01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:54.159
<v Speaker 2>at all? What was that?

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01:08:55.439 --> 01:08:59.439
<v Speaker 1>So? Is it lighting? Like? Am I getting.

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01:08:59.159 --> 01:09:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Weird that it has been the whole time?

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01:09:03.479 --> 01:09:06.159
<v Speaker 1>That's weird because it's I was just watching it going

1251
01:09:07.159 --> 01:09:09.640
<v Speaker 1>normally been watching you, but I'm looking at myself going, well,

1252
01:09:09.760 --> 01:09:10.479
<v Speaker 1>is it getting darker?

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01:09:10.520 --> 01:09:12.920
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it's been doing that the whole time. I

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01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:15.199
<v Speaker 2>don't know what it's been doing. But like when you're talking,

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01:09:15.239 --> 01:09:18.000
<v Speaker 2>like it got really really really dark and then it

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01:09:18.039 --> 01:09:20.039
<v Speaker 2>got brighter again, it gets really dark again.

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01:09:20.800 --> 01:09:25.680
<v Speaker 1>So I've so the first time I told the story

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01:09:25.720 --> 01:09:29.640
<v Speaker 1>to Justin and Jay, Justin was at the children's hospital

1259
01:09:30.159 --> 01:09:33.439
<v Speaker 1>when his wife is getting ready to get birth of twins.

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01:09:33.960 --> 01:09:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Couldnot use the episode audio anything is bad way I

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01:09:37.479 --> 01:09:43.960
<v Speaker 1>redo it. Couldnot use it? Uh yeah, Ryan interviewed me.

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01:09:45.039 --> 01:09:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Ryan of Boston Coachy's The Curiosities, same thing. His audio

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01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:52.439
<v Speaker 1>was screwed up and use it. We had to redo it.

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01:09:53.960 --> 01:09:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Well hopefully this one's not. I'll know here a little bit.

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01:09:58.119 --> 01:10:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because this is the story that long to everything

1266
01:10:02.920 --> 01:10:05.760
<v Speaker 1>got me pushed. Jacob, who helped me co hosts. He's

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01:10:05.760 --> 01:10:10.479
<v Speaker 1>a really good, great guy, good friend. We would talk

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01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:12.159
<v Speaker 1>about the Aha story from time to time, you know,

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01:10:12.199 --> 01:10:14.079
<v Speaker 1>sit around bar a couple of guys. This is kind

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01:10:14.079 --> 01:10:18.279
<v Speaker 1>of how drink Crims just started. But he told me

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01:10:18.279 --> 01:10:21.359
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago to listen because I was

1272
01:10:21.359 --> 01:10:23.479
<v Speaker 1>trying to push stuff up. And now we get windy

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01:10:23.520 --> 01:10:27.079
<v Speaker 1>goes and skin walkers and I don't think there's no

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01:10:27.119 --> 01:10:29.560
<v Speaker 1>skin walkers in Arkansas. I can promise you that there's

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01:10:29.600 --> 01:10:31.680
<v Speaker 1>not going to be a skin walkers in Arkansas. I'm

1276
01:10:32.079 --> 01:10:36.239
<v Speaker 1>way too ease for skinwalkers. Yeah, but it came up

1277
01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:39.039
<v Speaker 1>with so many different cryptids at the same time and

1278
01:10:39.079 --> 01:10:41.199
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't narrow it down. So he told me to

1279
01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:46.520
<v Speaker 1>go on listen to podcasts and I found Chasbos Chronicles

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01:10:47.079 --> 01:10:49.680
<v Speaker 1>and I heard any Counter on there and a guy

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01:10:49.800 --> 01:10:52.079
<v Speaker 1>described the same things. Something walking up and they started

1282
01:10:52.119 --> 01:10:54.199
<v Speaker 1>talking about cloaking or whatnot. I was like, well, well

1283
01:10:54.239 --> 01:10:56.439
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, okay, hold on a second. It's similar

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01:10:56.600 --> 01:10:59.199
<v Speaker 1>to what happened to me. Something was there, but it

1285
01:10:59.239 --> 01:11:03.760
<v Speaker 1>wasn't there. So I emailed West and like, hey, okay,

1286
01:11:03.760 --> 01:11:05.439
<v Speaker 1>if you heard you know, you got a hold of me.

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01:11:05.640 --> 01:11:07.279
<v Speaker 1>We talked for about forty five minutes of the phone

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01:11:07.279 --> 01:11:10.439
<v Speaker 1>about everything, and he goes, yeah, for you know, similar

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01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:12.000
<v Speaker 1>encounters is such. He goes, do you want to come

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01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:13.319
<v Speaker 1>on the show? And I did. That's how I got

1291
01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I want to do the stuff is because through there.

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01:11:16.439 --> 01:11:25.880
<v Speaker 1>But what I went through, I have no idea what

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01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:28.399
<v Speaker 1>it was. I can't look at you and say, yeah,

1294
01:11:28.479 --> 01:11:31.840
<v Speaker 1>that was bigfoot, that was a dog man, that was

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01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:34.720
<v Speaker 1>a camera. Lights flickering behind me, which is weird because

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01:11:34.720 --> 01:11:36.119
<v Speaker 1>there's no life flickering in the house.

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01:11:36.239 --> 01:11:37.880
<v Speaker 2>You're dark right now.

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01:11:39.159 --> 01:11:40.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can see it.

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01:11:40.359 --> 01:11:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been doing that. Al I don't know if

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01:11:43.319 --> 01:11:45.920
<v Speaker 2>it's the light behind you cause them to do that.

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01:11:46.800 --> 01:11:49.279
<v Speaker 1>The only light I have behind me is this lamp there.

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01:11:49.520 --> 01:11:50.119
<v Speaker 1>I'll show you.

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01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1304
01:11:54.960 --> 01:11:59.880
<v Speaker 1>And then there's my sense he h. And that's my

1305
01:12:00.119 --> 01:12:01.359
<v Speaker 1>newly adopt the little dog.

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01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:08.720
<v Speaker 2>My dog's probably in bed, well.

1307
01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Mine is, so I have my boy Jackie's in his

1308
01:12:11.560 --> 01:12:13.319
<v Speaker 1>bed and he might come out here in a second.

1309
01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:16.840
<v Speaker 1>But my kid made me adopt a little you Boston

1310
01:12:16.920 --> 01:12:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Terrier last week and they named him Nugget. So I

1311
01:12:21.079 --> 01:12:23.960
<v Speaker 1>have a dog named Nugget.

1312
01:12:25.359 --> 01:12:30.159
<v Speaker 2>I've got a Siri, which is funny because the phones,

1313
01:12:30.600 --> 01:12:33.039
<v Speaker 2>I think we're referring to that. And her name is

1314
01:12:33.079 --> 01:12:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Princess Sorilla from the Witcher that we call her Siri,

1315
01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:40.560
<v Speaker 2>and she's a white German shepherd, so she's the White Wolf,

1316
01:12:41.119 --> 01:12:46.560
<v Speaker 2>so so there's reference to that. And because we're dorky nerds.

1317
01:12:46.640 --> 01:12:48.760
<v Speaker 2>The other dog we just got last year is again

1318
01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:54.720
<v Speaker 2>my parents come home with two was a brother and

1319
01:12:54.760 --> 01:12:58.319
<v Speaker 2>sister that someone was getting rid of, and they're golden doodles.

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01:12:59.560 --> 01:13:04.119
<v Speaker 2>So we took the mail and because he's got almost

1321
01:13:04.279 --> 01:13:07.319
<v Speaker 2>was like a fro because his hair is so curly

1322
01:13:07.359 --> 01:13:08.640
<v Speaker 2>and everything, we called him Fro.

1323
01:13:08.720 --> 01:13:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Do love it.

1324
01:13:11.319 --> 01:13:13.039
<v Speaker 2>So we got Frod and Siri. I was like, well,

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01:13:13.079 --> 01:13:16.920
<v Speaker 2>we got the the nerd aspect going on in the house.

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01:13:18.039 --> 01:13:20.439
<v Speaker 1>But I'm a diehard Star Wars nerd. I mean, so

1327
01:13:20.520 --> 01:13:24.640
<v Speaker 1>like my the tavernat I built outside, what is really

1328
01:13:24.720 --> 01:13:26.920
<v Speaker 1>neat is I have some little crypted things in there,

1329
01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:29.600
<v Speaker 1>but I also have like a little Star Wars stuff.

1330
01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:34.640
<v Speaker 1>I've got the Holy Grail from I Jones behind the bar.

1331
01:13:34.760 --> 01:13:39.720
<v Speaker 1>I've got the the cube from hell Razer nice just

1332
01:13:39.800 --> 01:13:41.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of sitting there. I've got, you know, a little

1333
01:13:41.960 --> 01:13:45.359
<v Speaker 1>predator mask, you know, I've got I have a jeep,

1334
01:13:45.399 --> 01:13:47.000
<v Speaker 1>so I get ducked all the time and we do

1335
01:13:47.039 --> 01:13:49.039
<v Speaker 1>the de game stuff, and I ended up getting a

1336
01:13:50.239 --> 01:13:54.079
<v Speaker 1>duck that's dressed up as Slimmer from Ghostbusters and such.

1337
01:13:54.319 --> 01:13:57.359
<v Speaker 1>You know. So I have weird little cryptied things put

1338
01:13:57.439 --> 01:14:00.239
<v Speaker 1>up down there and little paranormal stuff. And Holly would

1339
01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:03.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of like, oh, you know, I've got like the

1340
01:14:03.680 --> 01:14:06.359
<v Speaker 1>the amber piece with the mosquito in it from Jurassic Park.

1341
01:14:06.720 --> 01:14:09.520
<v Speaker 1>So I get the whole nerd aspect, Like my whole

1342
01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:12.680
<v Speaker 1>bathroom was decorated in the sasquatch stuff. So it's yeah,

1343
01:14:12.760 --> 01:14:15.039
<v Speaker 1>I trust me, I respect the nerd.

1344
01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:18.640
<v Speaker 2>You can't see it, but basically this site over here

1345
01:14:18.760 --> 01:14:22.079
<v Speaker 2>is all of my Godzilla stuff. I'm a huge Godzilla nerd.

1346
01:14:22.159 --> 01:14:25.479
<v Speaker 2>That's literally what I'm rocking right now. But all of

1347
01:14:25.520 --> 01:14:28.640
<v Speaker 2>my toys and all my other stuff like posters and

1348
01:14:28.680 --> 01:14:31.000
<v Speaker 2>pictures and stuff, it's all over there, and everything back

1349
01:14:31.039 --> 01:14:33.640
<v Speaker 2>here is all my cryptid stuff. My buddy did most

1350
01:14:33.680 --> 01:14:35.960
<v Speaker 2>of the artwork. He does all the drawings and stuff.

1351
01:14:35.960 --> 01:14:39.199
<v Speaker 2>So I've got it back there, and but no on

1352
01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:44.760
<v Speaker 2>the desk, I've got my random little cryptid figurines. I've

1353
01:14:44.760 --> 01:14:49.039
<v Speaker 2>got my dog man and I've got them off Man.

1354
01:14:49.279 --> 01:14:51.199
<v Speaker 2>And then I actually just got this a couple of

1355
01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:56.439
<v Speaker 2>weeks ago, little bigfoot sasquatch guy.

1356
01:14:57.319 --> 01:15:01.159
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's pretty cool. I got to we did a

1357
01:15:01.239 --> 01:15:04.800
<v Speaker 1>town hall meeting I did when we were doing the documentary.

1358
01:15:04.840 --> 01:15:07.399
<v Speaker 1>We did a town hall up in Harrison, Arkansas, and

1359
01:15:07.560 --> 01:15:10.520
<v Speaker 1>we had a guy show up again this really neat

1360
01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:14.600
<v Speaker 1>little wood carving thing with you know, Bible coat and

1361
01:15:14.600 --> 01:15:16.359
<v Speaker 1>everything about, you know, with bigfoot and stuff like that

1362
01:15:16.399 --> 01:15:18.199
<v Speaker 1>on it. That's pretty cool. So I have that down

1363
01:15:18.239 --> 01:15:20.760
<v Speaker 1>here as well. And then I got a three D

1364
01:15:20.840 --> 01:15:23.199
<v Speaker 1>printed bigfoot somebody did and they gave they gifted meat,

1365
01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:27.760
<v Speaker 1>which is pretty Awesomehow.

1366
01:15:26.760 --> 01:15:30.039
<v Speaker 2>My uncle did the sign up here, I can't really

1367
01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:32.439
<v Speaker 2>see it behind me, boots, you can kind of see

1368
01:15:32.479 --> 01:15:34.439
<v Speaker 2>the little big finiss on air or whatever. He did

1369
01:15:34.479 --> 01:15:37.640
<v Speaker 2>that by hand. And then my father in law he

1370
01:15:37.800 --> 01:15:39.880
<v Speaker 2>actually has a bigfoot carved out. They have one of

1371
01:15:39.880 --> 01:15:44.880
<v Speaker 2>those laser machines, so well, the wood engraved. I got

1372
01:15:44.920 --> 01:15:46.920
<v Speaker 2>a wooden grave bigfoot up there too.

1373
01:15:48.159 --> 01:15:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then so that's a story. I had to

1374
01:15:51.279 --> 01:15:53.399
<v Speaker 1>change the subject there because I'm not gonna lie. It's

1375
01:15:53.439 --> 01:15:55.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, even living it and it's being you know,

1376
01:15:55.479 --> 01:15:56.439
<v Speaker 1>twenty three years ago.

1377
01:15:56.760 --> 01:16:00.680
<v Speaker 2>It's still still screws with you, it does, you know.

1378
01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:03.000
<v Speaker 1>When I was you know again, I just you know,

1379
01:16:03.039 --> 01:16:06.159
<v Speaker 1>we just redid my interview with the you know ry

1380
01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:10.560
<v Speaker 1>on Friday, and you know, Friday nice to me? Are

1381
01:16:12.319 --> 01:16:15.479
<v Speaker 1>my unwind from cause I work a normal job besides

1382
01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:19.079
<v Speaker 1>doing this stuff, and I'm a single dad. So when

1383
01:16:19.119 --> 01:16:22.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm kid free, my Friday night is the fire pit,

1384
01:16:23.279 --> 01:16:26.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, right there at the tavern outside, so we

1385
01:16:26.119 --> 01:16:29.119
<v Speaker 1>do fires. People come over, we drink severers, we relax,

1386
01:16:29.199 --> 01:16:32.279
<v Speaker 1>we play music and it's just me that unwind. And

1387
01:16:32.560 --> 01:16:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I got done with it and people showed up afterward.

1388
01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:37.560
<v Speaker 1>And now my buddy Tony I thought my him earlier,

1389
01:16:37.640 --> 01:16:38.960
<v Speaker 1>was like you all right, so yeah, I just went

1390
01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:44.319
<v Speaker 1>through and he goes, aha, well pretty much.

1391
01:16:45.159 --> 01:16:50.560
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm to the point now or I don't

1392
01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:53.960
<v Speaker 2>enjoy talking about Like when people always ask me you

1393
01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:55.199
<v Speaker 2>want to come on my show? You want to come

1394
01:16:55.239 --> 01:16:56.800
<v Speaker 2>on show? I was like, sure, I don't want to

1395
01:16:56.800 --> 01:16:59.039
<v Speaker 2>be that person said no, because I understand what it's

1396
01:16:59.079 --> 01:17:01.520
<v Speaker 2>like needing guests shows. I don't want to tell people no.

1397
01:17:02.720 --> 01:17:05.239
<v Speaker 2>But since I did Tony's show, I've not done another

1398
01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:11.520
<v Speaker 2>interview just because I don't enjoy doing an interview. It's

1399
01:17:11.520 --> 01:17:13.319
<v Speaker 2>weird I interview people. I have a show, but I

1400
01:17:13.399 --> 01:17:15.159
<v Speaker 2>don't enjoy talking about myself.

1401
01:17:16.239 --> 01:17:16.479
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

1402
01:17:16.560 --> 01:17:19.439
<v Speaker 2>So it's like I feel awkward being the one talking

1403
01:17:19.479 --> 01:17:22.399
<v Speaker 2>about my stuff because for the first year of this show,

1404
01:17:22.399 --> 01:17:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I never talked about anything about myself because I didn't

1405
01:17:24.880 --> 01:17:25.960
<v Speaker 2>want the show to be about me.

1406
01:17:27.079 --> 01:17:28.079
<v Speaker 1>So it's, yeah, same thing.

1407
01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:30.159
<v Speaker 2>So it's weird to be.

1408
01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:32.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, the thing about it is what I've learned is

1409
01:17:32.439 --> 01:17:35.880
<v Speaker 1>it does turn into a too about us to a point,

1410
01:17:36.760 --> 01:17:39.199
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I think it's a lot of way for

1411
01:17:39.279 --> 01:17:41.319
<v Speaker 1>the audience and for our guess a lot of ways

1412
01:17:41.760 --> 01:17:43.720
<v Speaker 1>to understand, you know, when they do want to come on,

1413
01:17:43.760 --> 01:17:45.279
<v Speaker 1>because I know for a lot of people it is

1414
01:17:46.159 --> 01:17:48.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've had I've had I've had a few

1415
01:17:48.479 --> 01:17:52.520
<v Speaker 1>people come on and they were real, real hesitant and

1416
01:17:52.600 --> 01:17:56.079
<v Speaker 1>nervous to talk about it. And you know, I fact

1417
01:17:56.159 --> 01:18:00.079
<v Speaker 1>when people get some emotional and I want to be

1418
01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:02.840
<v Speaker 1>able to create that you know, that safe space, you know,

1419
01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:06.079
<v Speaker 1>like we were talking. You know, it's hard to you know,

1420
01:18:07.399 --> 01:18:13.680
<v Speaker 1>interview somebody and sometimes you want to ask certain questions,

1421
01:18:13.680 --> 01:18:17.119
<v Speaker 1>but you don't want to have to call somebody out

1422
01:18:17.159 --> 01:18:18.880
<v Speaker 1>at the same time. And I look at it as

1423
01:18:18.960 --> 01:18:21.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, I got asked, you know, off every by

1424
01:18:21.159 --> 01:18:23.159
<v Speaker 1>somebody a couple of weeks ago, a by the show.

1425
01:18:23.840 --> 01:18:26.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, do you believe everybody? And my answer

1426
01:18:26.359 --> 01:18:28.800
<v Speaker 1>to them was, I believe everybody's coming on my show

1427
01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:34.000
<v Speaker 1>experience something mm hmm. What that was, I don't know,

1428
01:18:34.159 --> 01:18:38.000
<v Speaker 1>misidentification of an animal. I don't know who was it this,

1429
01:18:38.359 --> 01:18:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I know they had something, whether it

1430
01:18:42.640 --> 01:18:46.600
<v Speaker 1>be paranormal or cryptid enough to the point where they're

1431
01:18:46.640 --> 01:18:48.800
<v Speaker 1>not getting paid to come on the show. I'm not

1432
01:18:48.800 --> 01:18:51.359
<v Speaker 1>giving them money, come on, They're not writing book deals,

1433
01:18:51.439 --> 01:18:53.520
<v Speaker 1>not going to Hollywood for them, you know, I mean

1434
01:18:54.079 --> 01:18:58.159
<v Speaker 1>with a script. These are our neighbors. These are people

1435
01:18:58.159 --> 01:19:00.680
<v Speaker 1>down the street who got brave enough to come on.

1436
01:19:00.800 --> 01:19:03.000
<v Speaker 1>So I think that when we do and they do

1437
01:19:03.119 --> 01:19:04.880
<v Speaker 1>know that we've had encounters, and they do know that

1438
01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:07.680
<v Speaker 1>we've had experiences, you know, and they do know that

1439
01:19:07.680 --> 01:19:11.159
<v Speaker 1>that's what made us, do you know, get our platform

1440
01:19:11.199 --> 01:19:13.560
<v Speaker 1>out there and create a platform for them to come

1441
01:19:13.600 --> 01:19:19.159
<v Speaker 1>on and to knock it out so that they'll you know,

1442
01:19:19.199 --> 01:19:21.399
<v Speaker 1>the more you talk it out, the more it gets easier.

1443
01:19:21.439 --> 01:19:23.399
<v Speaker 1>And it does to a point. But at the same

1444
01:19:23.439 --> 01:19:25.520
<v Speaker 1>time too, though, when I get done with the story,

1445
01:19:25.520 --> 01:19:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I have to change the topic. If you know, I

1446
01:19:27.720 --> 01:19:30.960
<v Speaker 1>jumped right away from it.

1447
01:19:29.800 --> 01:19:32.880
<v Speaker 2>It brings up everything again, Like whatever you felt that

1448
01:19:33.000 --> 01:19:35.199
<v Speaker 2>night comes creeping back in, at least it does for me.

1449
01:19:35.680 --> 01:19:40.239
<v Speaker 2>And yep, I wasn't creepy. This was what's funny though,

1450
01:19:40.279 --> 01:19:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Like I was asked by Vic kund Off, like, how

1451
01:19:45.039 --> 01:19:48.119
<v Speaker 2>did it impact me? And I told him it didn't

1452
01:19:48.159 --> 01:19:52.199
<v Speaker 2>have any impact on me, which isn't true because I'm

1453
01:19:52.199 --> 01:19:56.239
<v Speaker 2>doing a frigging show about all this stuff. So after

1454
01:19:56.279 --> 01:19:57.760
<v Speaker 2>I said all that, I got thinking about it, I

1455
01:19:57.760 --> 01:19:59.119
<v Speaker 2>was like, well, clearly it did have some sort of

1456
01:19:59.119 --> 01:20:02.239
<v Speaker 2>an impact because it's bothered me for so long of

1457
01:20:02.359 --> 01:20:04.800
<v Speaker 2>not knowing. And the reason I wanted to start a

1458
01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:06.840
<v Speaker 2>show is because I thought maybe I wouldn't feel so

1459
01:20:06.920 --> 01:20:10.119
<v Speaker 2>bad about not knowing what happen to me because I'm

1460
01:20:10.119 --> 01:20:12.039
<v Speaker 2>giving people a chance to talk about it. Because I

1461
01:20:12.079 --> 01:20:13.840
<v Speaker 2>never felt like I could talk about what happened to me,

1462
01:20:13.920 --> 01:20:15.680
<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to try and say I'm here

1463
01:20:15.720 --> 01:20:18.279
<v Speaker 2>to prove or disprove anybody. I'm literally just letting people

1464
01:20:18.319 --> 01:20:22.399
<v Speaker 2>come on here to talk. Now, just like you, you

1465
01:20:22.479 --> 01:20:26.399
<v Speaker 2>really believe everything that comes on your show. I have

1466
01:20:26.600 --> 01:20:29.239
<v Speaker 2>been honest from the get goes. I remained skeptical on

1467
01:20:29.319 --> 01:20:30.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot of stuff. That's just how I have to

1468
01:20:30.960 --> 01:20:35.199
<v Speaker 2>stay grounded, because if you don't have that balance, you're

1469
01:20:35.199 --> 01:20:37.600
<v Speaker 2>going to go right off the cliff and you're out

1470
01:20:37.640 --> 01:20:41.159
<v Speaker 2>in La La Land, floating around on whatever bubble you're

1471
01:20:41.199 --> 01:20:44.600
<v Speaker 2>floating on. So I try and stay grounded in the skepticalness.

1472
01:20:44.600 --> 01:20:47.960
<v Speaker 2>So I don't say I believe everything, but I believe

1473
01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:51.880
<v Speaker 2>whoever comes on the show believes what they're telling me.

1474
01:20:53.079 --> 01:20:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

1475
01:20:53.880 --> 01:20:56.039
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not going to argue that this person didn't

1476
01:20:56.079 --> 01:20:59.399
<v Speaker 2>have this experience because I wasn't there. As much as

1477
01:20:59.439 --> 01:21:05.159
<v Speaker 2>it sounds like complete another nonsense to people, we weren't there,

1478
01:21:05.199 --> 01:21:08.279
<v Speaker 2>we don't really know. So that that's the mentality that

1479
01:21:08.319 --> 01:21:10.680
<v Speaker 2>I take with it is I wasn't there, so I

1480
01:21:10.720 --> 01:21:13.439
<v Speaker 2>cannot verify one way or the other. But this is

1481
01:21:13.439 --> 01:21:15.159
<v Speaker 2>what they're saying to happen, and I believe that they

1482
01:21:15.159 --> 01:21:19.720
<v Speaker 2>believe this is the truth. So it's third face So

1483
01:21:20.079 --> 01:21:21.239
<v Speaker 2>that's been my mantra.

1484
01:21:22.920 --> 01:21:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Same, absolutely same, because I have my own cryptical beliefs,

1485
01:21:28.880 --> 01:21:32.039
<v Speaker 1>have my own paranormal beliefs, you know that I keep.

1486
01:21:32.279 --> 01:21:33.840
<v Speaker 1>And I'll be honest with you though by doing the

1487
01:21:33.880 --> 01:21:39.720
<v Speaker 1>show and you know, talking with you know, guys like you, you

1488
01:21:39.199 --> 01:21:44.560
<v Speaker 1>know justin a Jay right, you know John, all these

1489
01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:48.039
<v Speaker 1>other podcasters and stuff, who we all are getting these

1490
01:21:48.119 --> 01:21:54.079
<v Speaker 1>encounters and listening to people talk. My opinion on like

1491
01:21:54.159 --> 01:21:56.720
<v Speaker 1>my opinion of Bigfoot changes every hour and a half.

1492
01:21:57.000 --> 01:21:59.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie, it really does, because I will

1493
01:21:59.199 --> 01:22:02.359
<v Speaker 1>obviously thinking, well, wait a minute, no, somebody said that

1494
01:22:02.399 --> 01:22:05.199
<v Speaker 1>they had Okay, that ties in with somebody else, you

1495
01:22:05.199 --> 01:22:07.000
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. So my opinion changes all the time.

1496
01:22:07.920 --> 01:22:10.359
<v Speaker 1>And then when it comes to lad the paranormal, Like

1497
01:22:10.399 --> 01:22:13.399
<v Speaker 1>my new theory right now on shadow people is you

1498
01:22:13.399 --> 01:22:15.439
<v Speaker 1>know they talked about how you know, when they got

1499
01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:17.800
<v Speaker 1>flowed the world and the Nephelim and everybody was killed,

1500
01:22:17.800 --> 01:22:19.399
<v Speaker 1>but they had no soul so they couldn't well, they

1501
01:22:19.399 --> 01:22:21.479
<v Speaker 1>had sold, but they couldn't go to heaven. They couldn't

1502
01:22:21.479 --> 01:22:23.800
<v Speaker 1>go to hell. So they left the room and I'll go, well,

1503
01:22:23.840 --> 01:22:27.479
<v Speaker 1>what are the shadow people of the So the spirits

1504
01:22:27.479 --> 01:22:31.399
<v Speaker 1>of the watchers, and that's what they're doing because they're

1505
01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:34.319
<v Speaker 1>like peeping toms. Every shadow person that I've encountered, and

1506
01:22:34.399 --> 01:22:37.279
<v Speaker 1>every shadow person that I hear people talk about about

1507
01:22:37.439 --> 01:22:40.960
<v Speaker 1>ninety nine percent of them are there's a shadow person,

1508
01:22:40.960 --> 01:22:42.920
<v Speaker 1>like you know, right there. It's like peeking out of

1509
01:22:42.920 --> 01:22:45.680
<v Speaker 1>the corners. Because you make eye contact with it, it

1510
01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:49.279
<v Speaker 1>runs away, right, So I'm like, what are there? You know?

1511
01:22:49.399 --> 01:22:51.399
<v Speaker 1>So they're peeping toms, you know, That's kind of how

1512
01:22:51.399 --> 01:22:52.399
<v Speaker 1>I look at shadow people.

1513
01:22:53.479 --> 01:22:57.960
<v Speaker 2>That's the watchers. I thought that, uh, maybe the shadow

1514
01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:01.920
<v Speaker 2>people are again just the whole loose side. But what

1515
01:23:01.920 --> 01:23:04.039
<v Speaker 2>if they're on that other plane of existence and we're

1516
01:23:04.079 --> 01:23:08.159
<v Speaker 2>only seeing it's bleeding into our world, so that veils

1517
01:23:08.159 --> 01:23:09.760
<v Speaker 2>a little thinner or whatever you want to call it.

1518
01:23:09.800 --> 01:23:15.920
<v Speaker 2>I know that's the cliche term, but we're seeing aspects

1519
01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:19.479
<v Speaker 2>to the other side. Now. I threw this out to

1520
01:23:19.520 --> 01:23:22.800
<v Speaker 2>someone else and they actually they I don't remember who

1521
01:23:22.800 --> 01:23:25.600
<v Speaker 2>the hell it was, but they actually like my theory

1522
01:23:25.640 --> 01:23:31.239
<v Speaker 2>as maybe once we leave here, like once our energy

1523
01:23:31.359 --> 01:23:34.439
<v Speaker 2>leaves this plane of existence. And I'm not saying to heaven,

1524
01:23:34.479 --> 01:23:37.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying a hell, but what if we achieve

1525
01:23:38.119 --> 01:23:42.000
<v Speaker 2>whatever we are here and we leave our body. What

1526
01:23:42.079 --> 01:23:46.039
<v Speaker 2>if those shadow people are not us, but like people

1527
01:23:46.199 --> 01:23:49.640
<v Speaker 2>like us that have moved on to the next stage.

1528
01:23:51.079 --> 01:23:57.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, which I've heard apparently there's different stages

1529
01:23:57.199 --> 01:23:59.359
<v Speaker 2>of Heaven and Hell lately, which I didn't know about

1530
01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:02.239
<v Speaker 2>any of that either, but I guess Dante's Inferno, there's

1531
01:24:02.279 --> 01:24:03.439
<v Speaker 2>what nine levels of Hell?

1532
01:24:04.279 --> 01:24:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Nine levels of Hell and Dante's Inferno. It was my

1533
01:24:07.039 --> 01:24:09.399
<v Speaker 1>theory on having in Hell is that there that there

1534
01:24:09.399 --> 01:24:10.920
<v Speaker 1>are different dimensions?

1535
01:24:11.239 --> 01:24:14.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is, that's what they are. That's how I

1536
01:24:14.800 --> 01:24:18.800
<v Speaker 2>kind of not to make religious people angry, but like

1537
01:24:18.840 --> 01:24:21.159
<v Speaker 2>that's how I see it too, as like Heaven is

1538
01:24:21.279 --> 01:24:26.920
<v Speaker 2>just another plane of existence in Hell's zone. Yeah. So

1539
01:24:29.479 --> 01:24:34.399
<v Speaker 2>my friend Brad, he has his own theories about stuff, but.

1540
01:24:36.039 --> 01:24:36.399
<v Speaker 1>It is.

1541
01:24:38.640 --> 01:24:40.920
<v Speaker 2>He talks about Hell like people refer to it as

1542
01:24:40.960 --> 01:24:43.000
<v Speaker 2>being hot, he said, and if you ever touched something

1543
01:24:43.119 --> 01:24:47.600
<v Speaker 2>so cold that it feels hot. So we talk about

1544
01:24:47.640 --> 01:24:51.720
<v Speaker 2>these lower frequency beings. We're refer to them as demons

1545
01:24:51.720 --> 01:24:54.920
<v Speaker 2>and Hell and everything from there. But it's so dark

1546
01:24:54.960 --> 01:24:57.640
<v Speaker 2>and dingy and cold that it feels hot because when

1547
01:24:57.680 --> 01:25:01.960
<v Speaker 2>you touch something that's so like, finger gets burnt, ice burned,

1548
01:25:02.880 --> 01:25:06.159
<v Speaker 2>Like Yeah, he said, maybe that's the interpretation and we're

1549
01:25:06.199 --> 01:25:08.039
<v Speaker 2>just thinking as its being hot but it's so cold

1550
01:25:08.119 --> 01:25:10.119
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. Because of that, I was like, I mean,

1551
01:25:10.119 --> 01:25:12.800
<v Speaker 2>that's a different theory, but it's plausible. At this point,

1552
01:25:12.840 --> 01:25:13.800
<v Speaker 2>everything's plausible.

1553
01:25:14.520 --> 01:25:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you're right. I'm with you on that way.

1554
01:25:16.000 --> 01:25:18.560
<v Speaker 1>It is plausible. And that's what the love Deell again,

1555
01:25:18.600 --> 01:25:21.319
<v Speaker 1>that's why I love doing this stuff because you know, chrisms,

1556
01:25:21.439 --> 01:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>paranormal is a favorite topic of mine, always has been.

1557
01:25:24.039 --> 01:25:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean said football. I'm a diehard football fan too, so.

1558
01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:31.000
<v Speaker 2>I've been watching free agency only oh.

1559
01:25:30.960 --> 01:25:35.199
<v Speaker 1>God, I know. So I'm a diehard Steeler fan, so

1560
01:25:36.399 --> 01:25:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I need for the news. I'm winked for the news.

1561
01:25:39.399 --> 01:25:41.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm wink for the news for the news.

1562
01:25:41.319 --> 01:25:42.800
<v Speaker 2>We just signed Daniel Jones.

1563
01:25:42.880 --> 01:25:45.520
<v Speaker 1>So there's that what y'all did?

1564
01:25:45.880 --> 01:25:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

1565
01:25:47.399 --> 01:25:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Uh, I mean get Aaron Rodgers.

1566
01:25:51.520 --> 01:25:55.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know at this point, they should have just

1567
01:25:55.840 --> 01:25:57.000
<v Speaker 2>kept Justin Fields.

1568
01:25:57.960 --> 01:25:59.680
<v Speaker 1>That That's what I just wanted to do. I don't

1569
01:25:59.680 --> 01:26:01.600
<v Speaker 1>want to get I did not want to catch Justin Fields.

1570
01:26:01.640 --> 01:26:04.039
<v Speaker 1>I was hoping we would have kept him. Highly impressed

1571
01:26:04.079 --> 01:26:06.039
<v Speaker 1>with the young man. I wasn't excited when we got

1572
01:26:06.079 --> 01:26:10.039
<v Speaker 1>him last year. But Washington play. We went three and

1573
01:26:10.079 --> 01:26:11.439
<v Speaker 1>one with him right off the back of the season,

1574
01:26:11.520 --> 01:26:15.399
<v Speaker 1>so I had no problems with him. Great. I mean, yeah,

1575
01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:17.439
<v Speaker 1>looked great to me. I was I was all down.

1576
01:26:17.520 --> 01:26:20.239
<v Speaker 1>I was on the field. Shit. I was thinking, yeah,

1577
01:26:20.199 --> 01:26:22.520
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna sign to another two three years.

1578
01:26:22.880 --> 01:26:25.239
<v Speaker 2>I think he could have done great had they give

1579
01:26:25.319 --> 01:26:29.600
<v Speaker 2>him the time. Like he came from Chicago, which the

1580
01:26:29.640 --> 01:26:35.159
<v Speaker 2>Bears have notoriously had shit quarterbacks for how many years?

1581
01:26:35.600 --> 01:26:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Got a problem there.

1582
01:26:37.319 --> 01:26:41.760
<v Speaker 2>So I thought he would do better in a different environment,

1583
01:26:41.880 --> 01:26:43.840
<v Speaker 2>he might do better. But now he went to the Jets,

1584
01:26:43.840 --> 01:26:49.119
<v Speaker 2>so I'm like, he's right back to the Just the

1585
01:26:49.239 --> 01:26:52.479
<v Speaker 2>Jets and the Bears are about in the same class

1586
01:26:52.479 --> 01:26:53.720
<v Speaker 2>of having bad quarterback.

1587
01:26:55.359 --> 01:26:58.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I got a Bears quarterback last year and

1588
01:26:58.439 --> 01:27:03.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm about to get the Jets quarterback year. About funny

1589
01:27:03.319 --> 01:27:05.039
<v Speaker 1>how that your show went from you know, we went

1590
01:27:05.079 --> 01:27:05.760
<v Speaker 1>all over the place.

1591
01:27:05.920 --> 01:27:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very ADHD show. Here. We went from Cryptis to football,

1592
01:27:11.039 --> 01:27:12.960
<v Speaker 2>and everyone's like, shut up, I don't want to hear

1593
01:27:12.960 --> 01:27:18.720
<v Speaker 2>about football, but we probably can't wrap this one up.

1594
01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:21.079
<v Speaker 2>It is late for me and I've got work in

1595
01:27:21.119 --> 01:27:22.560
<v Speaker 2>the morning, so we.

1596
01:27:22.520 --> 01:27:24.399
<v Speaker 1>Don't feel bad the same thing. Like I said, I'm

1597
01:27:24.439 --> 01:27:28.199
<v Speaker 1>a single dad. I work, so that's why sometimes it's

1598
01:27:28.199 --> 01:27:31.239
<v Speaker 1>hard for me to get scheduled down right. I would

1599
01:27:31.319 --> 01:27:34.079
<v Speaker 1>love whenever you want to talk about it, Levey, have

1600
01:27:34.159 --> 01:27:34.840
<v Speaker 1>you come on the show.

1601
01:27:36.640 --> 01:27:41.000
<v Speaker 2>I will give you the opportunity to be one of

1602
01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:43.239
<v Speaker 2>the first ones when I start doing more interviews again,

1603
01:27:43.319 --> 01:27:46.199
<v Speaker 2>because I don't mean opportunities and like I'm a big,

1604
01:27:46.279 --> 01:27:49.680
<v Speaker 2>big time, big shot or whatever, so don't take it away.

1605
01:27:49.720 --> 01:27:52.319
<v Speaker 2>But like I've been asked by like five or six

1606
01:27:52.399 --> 01:27:55.159
<v Speaker 2>different people and I've told them no, and I feel

1607
01:27:55.239 --> 01:27:57.600
<v Speaker 2>bad about it, but I'll be one of the first

1608
01:27:57.600 --> 01:27:59.079
<v Speaker 2>ones to reach out to you when I'm ready.

1609
01:28:00.039 --> 01:28:04.359
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that, like I didn't I do so. Yeah,

1610
01:28:04.399 --> 01:28:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry it took so long to come on. I

1611
01:28:06.920 --> 01:28:10.640
<v Speaker 1>really am. Like I said, I got sick. I got sick.

1612
01:28:10.960 --> 01:28:11.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean it.

1613
01:28:12.119 --> 01:28:15.920
<v Speaker 2>It happened to me. I was sick for about two weeks.

1614
01:28:16.159 --> 01:28:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's funny. I saw that. I saw that you

1615
01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:19.920
<v Speaker 1>were sick, Like, oh man, that poor guy. I know

1616
01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:22.520
<v Speaker 1>he's struggling. And then we're getting ready for mine. I

1617
01:28:22.560 --> 01:28:23.960
<v Speaker 1>was so boom. I was like, oh dude, you're not

1618
01:28:23.960 --> 01:28:27.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna believe this. Yeah, Tony would put it. We got

1619
01:28:27.279 --> 01:28:28.640
<v Speaker 1>hit with some spiritual warfare.

1620
01:28:28.840 --> 01:28:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't ever get sick. And it's funny because

1621
01:28:31.279 --> 01:28:33.720
<v Speaker 2>I was talking to my buddy and I think I

1622
01:28:33.760 --> 01:28:35.800
<v Speaker 2>cursed myself because I said I haven't had the flu

1623
01:28:35.840 --> 01:28:39.479
<v Speaker 2>since I was a kid. And then Bam got tested

1624
01:28:39.520 --> 01:28:45.880
<v Speaker 2>and had influenza A. I was like, great, and then

1625
01:28:45.880 --> 01:28:47.520
<v Speaker 2>my daughter had it, and then everyone else and like

1626
01:28:47.560 --> 01:28:54.960
<v Speaker 2>we just my oldest when we got COVID three and

1627
01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:57.159
<v Speaker 2>a half years ago, she's the only one that didn't

1628
01:28:57.199 --> 01:29:01.279
<v Speaker 2>get it. We all got the flu. She's the only

1629
01:29:01.319 --> 01:29:02.800
<v Speaker 2>one that didn't get I was like, even, she must

1630
01:29:02.840 --> 01:29:05.359
<v Speaker 2>have the greatest freaking but she seems to be She's

1631
01:29:05.359 --> 01:29:07.520
<v Speaker 2>always snotty and sniffy and always seems like she has

1632
01:29:07.520 --> 01:29:10.640
<v Speaker 2>a head cold, but she never gets sick.

1633
01:29:10.880 --> 01:29:11.279
<v Speaker 1>Like that.

1634
01:29:11.560 --> 01:29:15.800
<v Speaker 2>We get bombarded by crap and I hardly rarely. I

1635
01:29:15.880 --> 01:29:17.399
<v Speaker 2>might get a head cold here and there, but I'm

1636
01:29:17.439 --> 01:29:21.319
<v Speaker 2>usually never getting sick. And when I got COVID, it

1637
01:29:21.399 --> 01:29:24.119
<v Speaker 2>kicked my ass, and this flu kicked my ass.

1638
01:29:24.439 --> 01:29:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, I got I got like you with the flu.

1639
01:29:26.359 --> 01:29:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Didn't catch a flu, just happened to catch a little

1640
01:29:28.239 --> 01:29:31.439
<v Speaker 1>stomach bug. But we got here with an ice storm

1641
01:29:32.439 --> 01:29:37.079
<v Speaker 1>and I was supposed to go film on that Saturday

1642
01:29:37.880 --> 01:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>before you and me were going to do our interview,

1643
01:29:42.199 --> 01:29:44.840
<v Speaker 1>and I got ahold of them Friday night and I said,

1644
01:29:44.960 --> 01:29:47.439
<v Speaker 1>you don't want me there at all. I feel I

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01:29:47.479 --> 01:29:51.680
<v Speaker 1>can't put any energy into what I'm doing. I'm so

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01:29:51.960 --> 01:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean congested. It was at my chest and I'm

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01:29:54.560 --> 01:29:56.479
<v Speaker 1>still fighting a little bit of it. I'm not completely

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01:29:56.479 --> 01:29:57.119
<v Speaker 1>out of it yet.

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01:29:57.359 --> 01:30:01.399
<v Speaker 2>I still got the cough yep. So I keep muting

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01:30:01.399 --> 01:30:01.880
<v Speaker 2>myself just.

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01:30:01.920 --> 01:30:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Because I apologize for I do apologize. I wasn't blown

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01:30:04.840 --> 01:30:06.119
<v Speaker 1>you off. I wasn't blown you off at all. That

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01:30:06.199 --> 01:30:07.079
<v Speaker 1>wants you to take that at all.

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01:30:07.439 --> 01:30:10.760
<v Speaker 2>No, I completely get it. I give you the benefit

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01:30:10.800 --> 01:30:13.760
<v Speaker 2>of the doubt. Now, if someone reaches out and they

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01:30:13.800 --> 01:30:15.880
<v Speaker 2>have to reschedule, I'll give them the one. But if

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01:30:15.880 --> 01:30:18.439
<v Speaker 2>it happens more than once, I'm just like, all right, well,

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01:30:18.600 --> 01:30:21.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to keep rescheduling. But since you do

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01:30:21.920 --> 01:30:24.159
<v Speaker 2>a podcast and you know how it is with people,

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01:30:24.239 --> 01:30:26.760
<v Speaker 2>so I was like, I'll give you the benefit of

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01:30:26.800 --> 01:30:28.600
<v Speaker 2>the doubt for that one and I'll work around with it.

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01:30:28.640 --> 01:30:32.439
<v Speaker 2>Because I had to reschedule a lot of episodes. I

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01:30:32.439 --> 01:30:34.159
<v Speaker 2>actually just had to reschedule an interview that I had

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01:30:34.199 --> 01:30:36.920
<v Speaker 2>the other day, but that was because of other things.

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01:30:36.960 --> 01:30:37.800
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't sickness.

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01:30:37.840 --> 01:30:42.760
<v Speaker 1>But oh yeah, no, so they'll let's make your audience laugh.

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01:30:43.880 --> 01:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I was getting ready to interview a lady about fairies

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01:30:48.079 --> 01:30:51.600
<v Speaker 1>for polk, right m hm. And we were talking prior

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01:30:51.640 --> 01:30:54.359
<v Speaker 1>to you, getting ready to record everything else set up,

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01:30:54.600 --> 01:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>getting ready to hit that record, but in my stomach

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01:30:56.560 --> 01:31:01.000
<v Speaker 1>made that gurgling sound you know, you know that, you know,

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01:31:01.039 --> 01:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>the grilling sounding.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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01:31:03.239 --> 01:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, okay, maybe, okay, all right, all right,

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01:31:05.680 --> 01:31:08.199
<v Speaker 1>hang I say it made it again? That feels oh.

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01:31:08.319 --> 01:31:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I said, hey, I'm gonna have to call you back.

1677
01:31:11.000 --> 01:31:14.079
<v Speaker 1>I do appolylish is that's okay? And fifteen minutes later

1678
01:31:14.119 --> 01:31:16.159
<v Speaker 1>takes I said, hey, look I just got sick. There's

1679
01:31:16.239 --> 01:31:18.479
<v Speaker 1>no way I can do this at all. So that

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01:31:18.560 --> 01:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>was probably my most embarrassing podcast moment at all, getting

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01:31:21.880 --> 01:31:25.279
<v Speaker 1>ready to get record and had run.

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01:31:27.560 --> 01:31:30.119
<v Speaker 2>I can't think of anything embarrassing that's happened, but there's

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01:31:30.159 --> 01:31:34.720
<v Speaker 2>been a few times where things didn't hand out. There

1684
01:31:34.800 --> 01:31:36.960
<v Speaker 2>is an episode I actually have to get back with

1685
01:31:37.000 --> 01:31:41.960
<v Speaker 2>the guests because it's never been released because halfway through

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01:31:42.079 --> 01:31:45.479
<v Speaker 2>the internet connection lost. I don't know what happened, Like

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01:31:45.479 --> 01:31:48.319
<v Speaker 2>we just we were actually talking about some demonic stuff.

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01:31:48.359 --> 01:31:50.119
<v Speaker 2>So I thought it was strange. My internet went out.

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01:31:50.359 --> 01:31:53.520
<v Speaker 2>That seems to be a weird thing that happens. But

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01:31:55.039 --> 01:31:57.399
<v Speaker 2>so we were supposed to reschedule. He's never reached back

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01:31:57.399 --> 01:31:59.520
<v Speaker 2>out to me, so I should probably reach out to

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01:31:59.600 --> 01:32:02.880
<v Speaker 2>him out getting things. Just redo the whole episode, not

1693
01:32:02.920 --> 01:32:04.720
<v Speaker 2>try and pick it up from when we left off,

1694
01:32:04.760 --> 01:32:08.239
<v Speaker 2>but like, just redo the whole thing. But I don't know.

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01:32:08.279 --> 01:32:10.840
<v Speaker 2>There's certain topics that I've recorded with people and the

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01:32:10.920 --> 01:32:13.640
<v Speaker 2>audio gets choppy, like you mentioned earlier, like some of

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01:32:13.680 --> 01:32:15.479
<v Speaker 2>the things that you talked about with people, and it

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01:32:15.520 --> 01:32:18.720
<v Speaker 2>doesn't the audio ends up getting screwed up. I've never

1699
01:32:18.760 --> 01:32:20.720
<v Speaker 2>had the audio completely screwed up, but I've had to

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01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:22.359
<v Speaker 2>never recorded the interview at all.

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01:32:23.439 --> 01:32:26.399
<v Speaker 1>Well, RAI said it sounded like he was in a

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01:32:26.439 --> 01:32:31.840
<v Speaker 1>tin can all the way through, and Aul Justin told

1703
01:32:31.880 --> 01:32:34.479
<v Speaker 1>me was He goes, dude, it was so bad. He goes,

1704
01:32:34.479 --> 01:32:37.319
<v Speaker 1>there's no saving it. It was horrible. There he goes,

1705
01:32:37.359 --> 01:32:40.239
<v Speaker 1>it was such a great interview too, And I was like, oh, okay,

1706
01:32:41.199 --> 01:32:44.800
<v Speaker 1>because it never dropped. And finally he messages me, I go,

1707
01:32:45.239 --> 01:32:48.199
<v Speaker 1>did I do that bad of a job? It's just

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01:32:48.199 --> 01:32:50.439
<v Speaker 1>one of those technical difficulty ones just no no, no

1709
01:32:50.439 --> 01:32:52.399
<v Speaker 1>no no. So yeah they got me back on again,

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01:32:52.520 --> 01:32:57.159
<v Speaker 1>but yeah it was uh yeah, so watching the camera though,

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01:32:57.640 --> 01:32:59.239
<v Speaker 1>that says like, why is it get dark? And it

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01:32:59.239 --> 01:33:00.439
<v Speaker 1>hasn't done it since? Has it?

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01:33:01.079 --> 01:33:02.880
<v Speaker 2>I only did that one other time when I pointed

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01:33:02.920 --> 01:33:05.680
<v Speaker 2>it out to you, but other than that hasn't done it.

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01:33:05.880 --> 01:33:06.279
<v Speaker 1>Crazy.

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01:33:06.880 --> 01:33:11.039
<v Speaker 2>So now I'm nervous because usually I record on my roadcaster,

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01:33:11.159 --> 01:33:12.920
<v Speaker 2>but I also record with Zoom. This one I didn't

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01:33:12.960 --> 01:33:17.159
<v Speaker 2>record with zoom because I felt like I didn't really

1719
01:33:17.199 --> 01:33:19.600
<v Speaker 2>need to, And now I'm gonna be real shitty if

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01:33:19.640 --> 01:33:24.279
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't record. This is the only one I've never

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01:33:24.319 --> 01:33:27.239
<v Speaker 2>made a double copy, so this will be the one.

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01:33:27.319 --> 01:33:28.880
<v Speaker 2>This will be the one that screws up on me.

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01:33:29.680 --> 01:33:30.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh I hope not.

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01:33:32.640 --> 01:33:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, Matt, it's been a pleasure before. We'd go. Let

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01:33:35.920 --> 01:33:37.920
<v Speaker 2>everyone know where they can find your podcast.

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01:33:39.439 --> 01:33:43.199
<v Speaker 1>Thanks, Brendan. Uh yeah, drunkncripmas dot com is a website.

1727
01:33:43.239 --> 01:33:48.920
<v Speaker 1>We're on Facebook, Instagram X. We're more active on Facebook.

1728
01:33:49.239 --> 01:33:52.399
<v Speaker 1>I do have Tommy Hill else produce my show. So

1729
01:33:52.960 --> 01:33:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Tommy's really good checking emails all the time. He monstras

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01:33:56.760 --> 01:33:59.319
<v Speaker 1>Facebook to a point. I pretty much see the Facebook stuff,

1731
01:33:59.560 --> 01:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Tommy send us a lot of force as well. But yeah,

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01:34:01.680 --> 01:34:05.199
<v Speaker 1>that's where we're at. All your streaming platforms, Yeah, yeah,

1733
01:34:05.520 --> 01:34:08.319
<v Speaker 1>you're there, YouTube, Spotify, Apple, all of them, you know.

1734
01:34:09.119 --> 01:34:13.640
<v Speaker 2>So anywhere you listen to Tenfoil Tells you can find drunkencryptis.

1735
01:34:14.520 --> 01:34:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I listened to you on Spotify.

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01:34:17.319 --> 01:34:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, Matt again, it's been a pleasure talking to you,

1737
01:34:19.880 --> 01:34:23.920
<v Speaker 2>but we're gonna roll on out. So thanks to Matt

1738
01:34:24.079 --> 01:34:31.920
<v Speaker 2>and thanks for listening. If you would like to be

1739
01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:34.359
<v Speaker 2>a guest on Tenfoil Tels, remember to send an email

1740
01:34:34.359 --> 01:34:37.119
<v Speaker 2>to Tenfoil Tells Podcast to gmail dot com, or you

1741
01:34:37.159 --> 01:34:39.720
<v Speaker 2>can also go to tenfoiltales dot com and go to

1742
01:34:39.760 --> 01:34:41.880
<v Speaker 2>the contact section. Just make sure to reach out and

1743
01:34:41.880 --> 01:34:43.359
<v Speaker 2>get hold of me and we will get something to

1744
01:34:43.359 --> 01:34:46.079
<v Speaker 2>schedule for a future episode. You can also find Tenfoil

1745
01:34:46.119 --> 01:34:49.399
<v Speaker 2>Tales on Facebook and Instagram. Just look for Tenfoil Tales

1746
01:34:49.439 --> 01:34:52.319
<v Speaker 2>podcast and reach out to me that way too. Remember

1747
01:34:52.359 --> 01:34:54.239
<v Speaker 2>to share the show around. Word of mouth is the

1748
01:34:54.239 --> 01:34:56.680
<v Speaker 2>best way to help the show grow, and just remember

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01:34:57.079 --> 01:34:59.319
<v Speaker 2>truth comes at cost. Are you willing to pay the

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<v Speaker 2>price