Speaker 1: And I just turned around and I call ass out
Speaker 1: of there. I was done. I wasn't deal with them.
Speaker 1: The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things
Speaker 1: that turned me away the quickest. When I turned my
Speaker 1: head lights on, it turned and looked at us. And
Speaker 1: one of the things I remember the most, where the
Speaker 1: eyes were glowing red. I see an orb of light.
Speaker 2: It is just circling these steps.
Speaker 1: Like it is waiting for me. And he begins to
Speaker 1: tell them that he saw UFO. They're basically like, what
Speaker 1: are you talking about.
Speaker 2: That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it
Speaker 2: and that's where I saw.
Speaker 1: The top of the muzzle nose and the eyes. As
Speaker 1: soon as I made eye contact with this thing, it
Speaker 1: don't like death.
Speaker 2: What's going on, listeners, it's Brandon from ten foil Teals
Speaker 2: bringing you another episode. Today's episode, we're going to be
Speaker 2: joined by Matt from Drunkencryptis podcast and he is going
Speaker 2: to talk to us a little bit about the experience
Speaker 2: he had while he was stationed at Fort Hood. Definitely
Speaker 2: an interesting topic. I always enjoy hearing about the strange
Speaker 2: things that happens around military bases. But before we dive
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Speaker 2: go ahead now dive into the conversation with Matt. So
Speaker 2: thanks for listening, Thanks to the Cult of Conspiracy for
Speaker 2: having me on here, and we will check you on
Speaker 2: the next one. Matt, thanks for coming here and talking
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 1: Hey, Randon, thanks for having me on the show man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Not a problem. What got you before we dive into it?
Speaker 2: We've been chit chatting here for about a half hour,
Speaker 2: but like for the audience, where did you come up
Speaker 2: with the name Drunken Cryptids, because that is what actually
Speaker 2: we just kind of talked about, but that's what sticks
Speaker 2: out to me as the whole Drunken Cryptis name. Like
Speaker 2: it just when I first seen, I was like, that's
Speaker 2: a cool name.
Speaker 1: Well, so I've been pushed for years to try and
Speaker 1: get a podcast started about, you know, Cryptis and some
Speaker 1: of my experiences and talk to others about what I've
Speaker 1: been through, what I encountered, and so about a year
Speaker 1: so the show has been going out for a little
Speaker 1: over years. So just yeah, so we just I just
Speaker 1: passed my gear mark, so happy anniversary to me, Congress.
Speaker 1: And I was told, before you start a podcast, before
Speaker 1: you record, you want to have a name. You want
Speaker 1: it to be. You want to make sure nobody has
Speaker 1: her name or anything. And you know, about a couple
Speaker 1: of nights a week, I mean somebody's we would go
Speaker 1: down and go play trivia at like the little Piece
Speaker 1: of Place or a little die bar place or somewhere
Speaker 1: like that, and I always ask you what your team
Speaker 1: name is. And I was cracking jokes and I was
Speaker 1: always trying to tie Bigfoot or Cryptis or something into
Speaker 1: the title. And we had a couple of pictures of
Speaker 1: beer on the table and I went, yeah, we're the
Speaker 1: Drunken Cryptids and I went, help, that's a podcast name.
Speaker 1: And that's where it came from.
Speaker 2: That is I don't know the proper word to say,
Speaker 2: but like that is like the perfect setting to come
Speaker 2: up with a name when you're out at a bar
Speaker 2: having some few drinks and it just rolls off and
Speaker 2: just roll with it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we did, Yeah, we did. So I had
Speaker 1: the so a Drunking Cryptics dot com, which is nobody
Speaker 1: has it. Uh. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. It's
Speaker 1: it catches people's attention and they're like, you know you
Speaker 1: you know, it's all you guys do is drink on
Speaker 1: the show. And I was like, sometimes sometimes we have
Speaker 1: some drinks, you know. And I interviewed Todd Nice.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: The first time was in person, and we did a
Speaker 1: two part series in one shot and it's kind of funny.
Speaker 1: You can tell how the episode goes and you know
Speaker 1: you've been doing this for a while, so you know
Speaker 1: it's starts off we kind of sober, and you can
Speaker 1: tell by the end we've been drinking a little bit
Speaker 1: because we're laughing a lot more than anything. But that's
Speaker 1: the whole point of the show. It's just you know,
Speaker 1: come on and just kind of visit and talk about encounters,
Speaker 1: talk about what people have experienced, whether they've been through
Speaker 1: or you know, we discussed topics, you know, so me
Speaker 1: and I have a couple of codes to help me out.
Speaker 1: Jacob sometimes come in. My buddy Chris does as well,
Speaker 1: and you know, or I'll talk to you know, another
Speaker 1: podcast or phone them in and I'll just sit there
Speaker 1: talking the news.
Speaker 2: Or you've been doing some stuff with the guys from
Speaker 2: Cryptos of the Corn, so I've talked to them a
Speaker 2: few times and been trying to get one of them
Speaker 2: on here to do an episode. But we talked back
Speaker 2: at Cryptid Con in person. But that it's weird for
Speaker 2: anyone listening, like it's I don't want to say it's
Speaker 2: like a click, but there's a group. There's a group
Speaker 2: of people and they all if we do this type
Speaker 2: of thing, you all kind of know each other. It's
Speaker 2: like it's almost like I used to do band stuff,
Speaker 2: so I used to know a lot of different bands.
Speaker 2: There were certain bands you played different shows, so you
Speaker 2: made friends with and like the guy that does who's
Speaker 2: doing the documentary with me and like he's been on
Speaker 2: some of my episodes or whatever. My friend ed we
Speaker 2: met from being in bands. Now I was like one
Speaker 2: of my best friends I talked to all the time.
Speaker 2: But that's how you meet some of these people because
Speaker 2: we all have that one common thing together, which was
Speaker 2: the podcast and the Cryptid stuff. So it all it's
Speaker 2: like your own little clique of people that all have
Speaker 2: some sort of thing in common. So just a new
Speaker 2: avenue of making new friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh, And I'll be honest with that's the
Speaker 1: bonus so far that I've been able to have been
Speaker 1: blessed with by doing this stuff is by you know,
Speaker 1: the first ones I met was Justin and Jay over
Speaker 1: there Crips of the Corn. That was you know, on
Speaker 1: Facebook message and back and forth. They're coming down here
Speaker 1: I on this episode of air. But on April fifth
Speaker 1: this year, we're doing a live show together and then
Speaker 1: which is so I'm excited for that one. We're doing
Speaker 1: a big four hour meet and greet. And then in
Speaker 1: October they asked me to come up to their jamboree
Speaker 1: there I don't think for jamboree and be a guest
Speaker 1: speaker for the family side. So I'm not like, you know,
Speaker 1: where Tony's going to be at, whe Joel's going to
Speaker 1: be at. I'm going to be like in the smaller side,
Speaker 1: but the family thing. But you know, I'm I'm super
Speaker 1: stoked about it.
Speaker 2: I've been. I don't know if I can make that.
Speaker 2: I don't think I can because my October literally I'm
Speaker 2: booked every weekend and I messaged Justin about it. I
Speaker 2: said that I would like to be a part of
Speaker 2: that or whatever, but I'm pretty sure. I'm at Goatman Festival.
Speaker 2: So October is literally every single weekend. I've got stuff
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 1: So but I've only got I've only got two in October. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm in Arkansas, so we don't have that much here.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately we have. I had to be one of the
Speaker 1: Arkansas Paranormal expos It's every October and I'm I'm now
Speaker 1: on the guest speaker list for them, which is an honor.
Speaker 1: They reached out to us to come back. We were
Speaker 1: there last year and so they emailed us when they
Speaker 1: open it up and asked if I'd be willing to,
Speaker 1: you know, be prom the list. They already have a list,
Speaker 1: but if somebody bells out they would want me to
Speaker 1: step in. There's another one that comes out, put on
Speaker 1: by Robert Swain, who's a super nice guy. It's more
Speaker 1: of a kind of a small town kind of you know,
Speaker 1: a little kind of get together thing. Not that big,
Speaker 1: but yeah, Arkansas. Well then we have Foul you know
Speaker 1: the fact, you know, festival that happens in April on
Speaker 1: April twenty second, and I'll actually be down there and
Speaker 1: now as a vendor or anything, but I'm going down
Speaker 1: there to help Todd Nisaup. He's going to be set
Speaker 1: up and speaking. So I'll be down there for that
Speaker 1: one and April here in Arkansas. But that's pretty much
Speaker 1: about all we really have.
Speaker 2: We don't really have anything here specifically, Like we have
Speaker 2: some paranormal things. That's one of the weekends, like the
Speaker 2: last weekend of October, we have the local one here.
Speaker 2: There's literally just a couple of miles from my house.
Speaker 2: So I'll be at that one. I spoke at it
Speaker 2: last year. And then there's another one that's actually on
Speaker 2: the same day that I just got an email about
Speaker 2: asking if I want to come back to that one.
Speaker 2: I was like, well, I'm already going to be at
Speaker 2: the one that's right by my house. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to come down to the other one. But no, most
Speaker 2: of the things I've got, I've got Tennessee, I've got Chicago,
Speaker 2: I've got Indianapolis, which the Indianapolis one is. Honestly, I'm
Speaker 2: out of the element. I won can't really see a
Speaker 2: bit up on the thing. I won two awards there
Speaker 2: last year, which I only entered it just to see
Speaker 2: what would happen, But I won Best Paranormal Podcast. It's
Speaker 2: like the indie popcorn so it's more of a anime.
Speaker 2: They have like speakers from like different cartoon shows. They
Speaker 2: got video game people there, like, it's not anything related
Speaker 2: to like what I do here. It's not like paranormal
Speaker 2: or cryptid or anything like that. So me being there
Speaker 2: is definitely out of the element. But because I have
Speaker 2: that differentness from everyone else, I thought maybe it'd be
Speaker 2: a good exposure. So it's three days down at Indianapolis,
Speaker 2: like a It's an hour and a half drive, so
Speaker 2: I'll just drive down there every day for it. Not
Speaker 2: a big deal, but we'll see what happens with that.
Speaker 2: But then most of the stuff is in either Ohio
Speaker 2: or Kentucky.
Speaker 1: So yeah, travel for me, that's an awesome thing to
Speaker 1: win at a conference. So yeah, we won Best Documenting
Speaker 1: Podcast in Arkansas last year.
Speaker 2: Awesome.
Speaker 1: So our first year in we're winning awards is kind
Speaker 1: of neat. So yeah, tomorrow I get interviewed for you know,
Speaker 1: for the people who put that on. They wanted me
Speaker 1: to come on their show. So that'll be that be
Speaker 1: in personally down a little rock awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't think much of it. I entered it, and
Speaker 2: then a couple of months go by and then I
Speaker 2: get an email asking if I can attend. I was like,
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I find details like, apparently I
Speaker 2: must be one of the finalists. They're asking me to attend,
Speaker 2: and then I was one of the first things they
Speaker 2: read off and it was me when I was like,
Speaker 2: oh shitn't expect to win anything. Then a little bit later,
Speaker 2: I won Best Artwork. I was like, oh, I didn't
Speaker 2: even know I was entered in that, but okay.
Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Yes, I got two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got we got nominated, and I didn't think
Speaker 1: anything would come out of it. And what was funny
Speaker 1: is that the email, but the email, the email got
Speaker 1: screwed up. And my buddy Tommy started blowing my phone
Speaker 1: up on a Sunday and he goes, dude, because they
Speaker 1: started messaging him on Facebook. Hey, y'all, won, we're trying
Speaker 1: to get a hold of you, you know, for this award,
Speaker 1: and you've got to be here on Thursday. We're like what, So, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're pretty excited about it. Yeah. It kind of cross
Speaker 1: off guard and I never thought for a minute that
Speaker 1: I'd be having an award winning podcast or I had
Speaker 1: Jason Kinsey come through. I met him for the first
Speaker 1: time in September. Was filmed in an episode for Search
Speaker 1: for Sasquatch that airs and in March beginning of April
Speaker 1: time frame, So that'd be a lot of fun to watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Thanks, Yeah, we're putting together an expedition right now for Portlock.
Speaker 2: Is there a lot of activity in your area?
Speaker 1: There is, actually so there. There's a ton of activity.
Speaker 1: Arkansas gets overlooked a lot for whatever reason. I think
Speaker 1: it's mainly mainly just the uh, the perception, you know,
Speaker 1: red views like oh, Alabama or Mississippi, you know, Arkansas.
Speaker 1: We're kind of all kind of grouped in, but there
Speaker 1: is a ton of sidings. You cannot hunting is huge
Speaker 1: down here. It is when everybody hunts through the duck hunting,
Speaker 1: deer hunting, there are always everybody's in the woods. So
Speaker 1: you're not going to get these guys come out and
Speaker 1: tell you, yeah, I saw something, I did this. But
Speaker 1: if you ask the right questions, you get the right answers.
Speaker 1: I e. You ever start a deer, the deer jump
Speaker 1: off into the woods, fallow the blood trail and no deer.
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, okay, you know, little things like that.
Speaker 1: And then well, what is funny though, is that when
Speaker 1: you're asking questions to these hunters, they'll crack jokes with
Speaker 1: you and say nothing there, and then a few minutes later,
Speaker 1: when you're by yourself, I'll walk up. We go okay,
Speaker 1: So one morning some walked under my stand there was
Speaker 1: somebody there, and when there was nobody, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So I think down here in the South,
Speaker 1: in Arkansas, when it comes to Squatch, I think that
Speaker 1: he they because they they do. They put up feeders.
Speaker 1: They know they learned the deer into the area and
Speaker 1: you can't do dinner season aussee, but they do it
Speaker 1: prior to and Squatch knows they know where the food's at.
Speaker 1: They know where the deer is going to be, they
Speaker 1: know where the stands are at. They know where the
Speaker 1: trail cams are at, because they put them up the
Speaker 1: same place every year. I don't know if you feed
Speaker 1: a bear, if you keep feeding the bear, the bear's
Speaker 1: in associate it with right food.
Speaker 2: I don't know where everyone comes up with the whole
Speaker 2: sasquatch or cryptids. They all see infrared, so they know
Speaker 2: where the trail cams are. I get it. Maybe it's possible,
Speaker 2: But then I'm like, well, how do they even know
Speaker 2: what a camera is?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Like, that's where always comes like, they know if you
Speaker 2: have a camera. Do they know what a camera does?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: So that's where I get to is if they're that
Speaker 2: intelligent to where they know are they just a flesh
Speaker 2: and blood primate that's out there, So how would they
Speaker 2: really know that? Or if there's something else from a
Speaker 2: different plane of existence that are more intelligent than what
Speaker 2: we think they are, than they would understand what that is.
Speaker 2: But they're not a technology type of a creature, So again,
Speaker 2: how would they know that? I don't see what.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, And I've had the same debate internally
Speaker 1: and the theory I come up with on the trail cams,
Speaker 1: and the only reason I brought it up is because
Speaker 1: trail cams are going to lead you to people, if
Speaker 1: that makes sense. It's a man made object, just not nature.
Speaker 1: It's not natural. It's you know, a piece of plastic
Speaker 1: and electronics and batteries and everything, and it's gonna look
Speaker 1: weird and smell weird. Your majority of your trail cams, though,
Speaker 1: are triggered by a movement. Okay, so primes eperon video. Now,
Speaker 1: so my camera was a troil cam on sitting still
Speaker 1: and then my hand goes like this, they just activated it.
Speaker 1: But you're not going to see my hand in the
Speaker 1: picture of the video because my hands already gone by.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it takes a second.
Speaker 1: So yes, so something watch in front of it. It's
Speaker 1: going to pick up and trigger it. And now to
Speaker 1: the last people, the same question. Okay, so on the
Speaker 1: trail cams out there, how many times have you pulled
Speaker 1: a footage you've gotten hits on and nothing be there?
Speaker 1: And they'll say, yeah, I get it all the time.
Speaker 1: And generally could be a branch, it could be this,
Speaker 1: it could be that, but it's that motion sensor and
Speaker 1: if you're walking quick enough, it's not going to trigger.
Speaker 1: You don't catch the deer as soon as it watching
Speaker 1: the frame are the animals because of watching the frame,
Speaker 1: you're catching it halfway going through the frame is what
Speaker 1: you're catching, and generally you're catching already grouped them together
Speaker 1: eating at your feet spot.
Speaker 2: I interviewed a couple of guys here in actual in
Speaker 2: studio with me a while back, and the episode came out,
Speaker 2: I think a week or two ago. But they have
Speaker 2: trail cam pictures. They had, like the print nows, I've
Speaker 2: seen them, but there's a lot of orbs in the
Speaker 2: photo and they had it set up to where they
Speaker 2: had some food placed inside this old trunk of a
Speaker 2: tree and then you can't see what took the stuff out.
Speaker 2: But again you can see a lot of little light
Speaker 2: orbs floating around.
Speaker 1: It's a dust from it pulling it that fast.
Speaker 2: But some of the orbs. Again, this is where I
Speaker 2: get confused, because when you talk to some people, they
Speaker 2: say you sometimes you see these.
Speaker 1: Balls of light.
Speaker 2: Then you like bigfoot or all a sudden you see
Speaker 2: like an orb or a ball of light or whatever.
Speaker 2: So I was like, is that dust or is this what?
Speaker 2: People claim that they experience with Bigfoot where you see
Speaker 2: these random orbs of energy, Like, I have no idea.
Speaker 2: I'm no expert in breaking down photos or anything like that.
Speaker 2: So it's like it it could be dust, it could
Speaker 2: be something like I don't know.
Speaker 1: My general film when it comes to photos and orbs, honestly,
Speaker 1: is I am to go with ninety nine percent dust.
Speaker 1: And as I mean as from taking numerous pictures inside
Speaker 1: of dark rooms, black rooms out in the woods, there's
Speaker 1: so many things in the woods. There's you'll get people
Speaker 1: that'll have a spartaw weeb right there in front of
Speaker 1: the front of the trail camp and a squirrel will
Speaker 1: trigger it on a tree branch, and at night, the
Speaker 1: ir lights reflecting off of that web perfectly as it's
Speaker 1: just kind of hanging out and it's an orror, you know.
Speaker 1: So I always like to side on the air of
Speaker 1: it not being crypted or paranormal, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: That is my mentality on a lot of things. I
Speaker 2: don't know if people don't like that or not, but
Speaker 2: I always try and rule out everything before I'll say
Speaker 2: it's a encrypted or a paranormal or anything else. Because
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of explanations that people don't
Speaker 2: want to accept. By that, I mean this sounds dumb
Speaker 2: as I'm doing a documentary about doing all this stuff.
Speaker 2: But basically, people want it so bad that any little
Speaker 2: thing they're gonna automatically assume that's what it is because
Speaker 2: that's what they want so bad, So they're manifesting it
Speaker 2: to be that, even though that might not be what
Speaker 2: it is. So if you hear a random noise out
Speaker 2: in the woods or a tree snap or something, well
Speaker 2: that's a bigfoot or could have just been a random
Speaker 2: deer walking and it stepped on a branch like, or
Speaker 2: you hear a scream, well it could have been a fox,
Speaker 2: it could have been a coyote. Like I don't want
Speaker 2: to be that person that tells everyone know they're wrong.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, this community has gotten to
Speaker 2: the point to where you're not even allowed to question
Speaker 2: anyone about the things that they say that they've experienced.
Speaker 2: Like and I'm not saying that as an interview or
Speaker 2: whatever to question people, but what I'm saying is I
Speaker 2: get people sending me photos of blurriness. I can't see
Speaker 2: anything in the photo. They've gotten mad at me because
Speaker 2: I can't see what they're seeing. Yep, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Just because you sent me a blurry, zoomed in photo
Speaker 2: and you say a dog man is staring at you,
Speaker 2: I don't see it. Well, then you're attacking me because
Speaker 2: I don't see it. What am I supposed to do?
Speaker 1: What I agree with Brandon agreed down percent and I
Speaker 1: get them as well, and generally, uh, when I get those,
Speaker 1: my answer to them is, well, there's something. That's why
Speaker 1: I say there's something. I mean, there's trees, leaves or something,
Speaker 1: you know, and this is taken. Like I was saying earlier,
Speaker 1: with us, I have a really good investigation team. You know,
Speaker 1: I have a military background. U. Tony, my buddy Tony
Speaker 1: has a you know, over twenty year military background as well.
Speaker 1: You know in scouts it scout you being a scout
Speaker 1: for the military. I was in the infantry. So with
Speaker 1: me and Tony, with our experience together, we're probably close
Speaker 1: for forty years. Just there Chris who hunts the area
Speaker 1: that has his area, he knows it inside and out.
Speaker 1: And this is where a lot of our encounter's taken
Speaker 1: place at that we've gotten and we have taken hundreds,
Speaker 1: hundreds hundreds of photos out there, hundreds, you know, cross trees.
Speaker 1: This that we actually got. We found a structure at
Speaker 1: one point, but all these pictures and there was one
Speaker 1: picture and I couldn't figure out. And I was looking
Speaker 1: at the top left corner of it, and I was
Speaker 1: at you know, because Chris has been the one taking
Speaker 1: the pictures, and I was like, where was this at?
Speaker 1: And he goes ascribe. I said, is that a stand
Speaker 1: tipped over stand in the corner? He goes, I don't
Speaker 1: remember a deer stand being over there. And I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, so well listen to I sent to a
Speaker 1: buddy of mine and I said, hey, what's this thing
Speaker 1: up here in the corner? And he sent it back
Speaker 1: to me and he goes, well, that's the structure, but
Speaker 1: what's this And to the bottom right we actually caught
Speaker 1: it could have been a face. And he had circled
Speaker 1: up the AI program that he was using and that
Speaker 1: we were used on the same photo was pulling up
Speaker 1: saying there one program said we had an animal in
Speaker 1: the photo, and another program said we had a person
Speaker 1: in the photo. So we were just gap. So that's
Speaker 1: the only photo that I can go, Okay, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: something we caught something other than that, it's just basic
Speaker 1: tracks and structures as such.
Speaker 2: Right, do you want to dive into what got you
Speaker 2: into all of this? I know, like every time someone
Speaker 2: wants to start a podcast, usually there's a reason behind it.
Speaker 2: We all have our reasons why we decided to get
Speaker 2: into this whole secrew of niche of a field of podcasting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it is a very interesting field to
Speaker 1: get into. I'll tell you that. So a free background.
Speaker 1: I grew up in Utah, risually from Utah. My stepdad
Speaker 1: had a cabin and how you went is which was awesome.
Speaker 1: So we spent summers up there. All the time up
Speaker 1: there at the cabin had some you know, just weird stuff.
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you. Looking back is looking back knowing
Speaker 1: what I know now. Looking back as a kid, yeah,
Speaker 1: we may hear some tree knocks or herd somewhere. Sounds
Speaker 1: always booed off of something else. But in ninety two, well,
Speaker 1: my mom had had an encounter with one in the
Speaker 1: mid eighties. So I grew up with bigfoot. I was
Speaker 1: a kid in the library checking out books on bigfoot.
Speaker 1: I was a kid checking up books on UFOs A
Speaker 1: Lotnus Monster. The lot of Monster was one of my
Speaker 1: favorite ones when I was a kid. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I was fascinated with the Lotness Monster and Bigfoot haunted
Speaker 1: houses and I was just a kid growing up. Joined
Speaker 1: the army in nineteen ninety three. Yeah, went all over
Speaker 1: the world, had a good time. In two thousand and well,
Speaker 1: in ninety nine, I got assigned up Fort Hood and
Speaker 1: lived in a Hauntae house there lived them, you know,
Speaker 1: so which is totally different a scenario, but having you know,
Speaker 1: paranormal and everything happened in my life. In two thousand
Speaker 1: and two, my unit was doing a I was assigned
Speaker 1: to a mechanize infantry excuse me at the time. So
Speaker 1: they were doing a real quick table at gunnery. So
Speaker 1: a table at gunnery and the military is so all
Speaker 1: your your armor, your you know, your your tinkers, your Bradley's,
Speaker 1: your artillery pieces, your aircraft, anything that you know, even
Speaker 1: a lot in your basic infantry have to qualify as
Speaker 1: a crew to be combat considered combat radio, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense. So you have to go through a gunnery,
Speaker 1: which is a series of you know, firing new respiring options,
Speaker 1: you know, firing on the move, you know, hitting targets,
Speaker 1: working together as the crew, and you have to be
Speaker 1: able to qualify, so you're everybody has to be this
Speaker 1: way so you can be considered combat ready by the government.
Speaker 1: So this was in August of two thousand and two,
Speaker 1: prior to everything over in Iraq kicking off, you know, Afghanistan,
Speaker 1: and it was already a thing. We were gearing up
Speaker 1: for Iraq, so everybody was rushing right now to get qualified. Well,
Speaker 1: the unit was also trying to rush through and get
Speaker 1: people to be EIB qualified, which is Expert Instrument Badge,
Speaker 1: and that's a series of tests you have to go
Speaker 1: through as an insurant soldier to earn this badge, and
Speaker 1: it's one of the hardest badges to earn in the infantry.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, excluding obviously you know Ranger and airboar.
Speaker 1: You know, we ranger and Special Forces stuff, and this
Speaker 1: is a badge that says you're an expert in your field.
Speaker 1: So the unit was doing two things at once. I
Speaker 1: was e I B, so I was I earned my
Speaker 1: EIB already, so I s cadre and I had a
Speaker 1: lane I was supposed to be setting up and getting
Speaker 1: qualified for them to come through. But yet I got
Speaker 1: tasked to be put on guard duty for the ammunition
Speaker 1: that they were using them for the gunnery site. So
Speaker 1: this is known as the Aha story. We call it
Speaker 1: an Ammunition Holding Area AJ so aha, you know, almost
Speaker 1: like the van from the eighties. That's my little joke.
Speaker 1: But so, normally would you do guard duty on ammunition
Speaker 1: site saying thing for not with the unit. And for
Speaker 1: some reason, this location where they put the ammunition at
Speaker 1: wasn't near the range. They actually had to drive I
Speaker 1: think about a half a mile to get the AAMO,
Speaker 1: you know, and drop off brass and links, and then
Speaker 1: drive back to deliver them the fresh ammo. It was
Speaker 1: out in the middle of nowhere. And normally you have
Speaker 1: a radio and you have a weapon because you're supposed
Speaker 1: to have this a guard you know, ammunition. My first
Speaker 1: day there, I got there, expected to sign for the radio,
Speaker 1: expecting and signed for the weapon. Nothing. The guy I relieved,
Speaker 1: Sergeant m He was like, no, dude, they just do
Speaker 1: this together. And this is carried up, you know, surrounded
Speaker 1: by constina wire. Here's a camo. Neet here we go.
Speaker 1: Now this is in august in Fort Had, Texas. So
Speaker 1: it's going to be obviously hotter than you know, the
Speaker 1: back doors of eighties. So first day there nothing. So
Speaker 1: when you pull twenty four duty in the military, you're
Speaker 1: on for twenty four hours. You're technically off for twenty
Speaker 1: four hours, then you do then you go back to
Speaker 1: the little work schedule. For me, it was on for
Speaker 1: twenty four, off for twenty four back to the IV site.
Speaker 1: Then it had to come back to do another round
Speaker 1: of guard. So my second morning showing up for guard,
Speaker 1: I went to leave Sergeant Am. I got there and
Speaker 1: he looked tired. He was had bags in his eyes.
Speaker 1: He and you tell us slept and you do sleep
Speaker 1: on guard, did he? It's I mean you're I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: that's everybody. Yes, yeah, this is one of those things
Speaker 1: you rotate sleep, you have great rest, it's chill. It's
Speaker 1: an easy detail to pull, so when you're off for
Speaker 1: twenty four you're not sleeping. It's kind of nice to
Speaker 1: get a full day off of work. But so I
Speaker 1: got there and started to am he uh was tired,
Speaker 1: And I asked him and said, man, did you not
Speaker 1: sleep last night? And he goes, no, no, we slept
Speaker 1: in the bed of my truck. We had coyotes coming
Speaker 1: in all night, and I was like, oh, all right,
Speaker 1: so you know coyotes on military basis, they're going to
Speaker 1: they know where soldiers are at. So we leave trash behind,
Speaker 1: we leave food behind, we leave mr trash behind. So food,
Speaker 1: I mean they're going to come in and get it.
Speaker 1: Go back to watch coyote go and grab a guy's
Speaker 1: boot that was besides sleeping bag that he was sleeping
Speaker 1: the end at the time, and he was about fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes away. We're yelling at the coyote. He grab the
Speaker 1: boot and took off front of who the woods? What
Speaker 1: is this where kids come back? Boot? But so sergeant
Speaker 1: m leaves, we get you know, we're sitting there and
Speaker 1: I got my little book out. It's a quiet morning,
Speaker 1: nothing's happening. And I got two kids that were in
Speaker 1: my company, in a different platoon, so they weren't you know,
Speaker 1: technically you know, my in my my soldiers, but they're
Speaker 1: so soldiers and I didn't want to eat an MRI.
Speaker 1: So probably about mid morning I couldn't leave the site
Speaker 1: and I told the guys, I said, hey, I got
Speaker 1: twenty bucks. It wants to run down the post real quick.
Speaker 1: Get some whoppers. We'll have whoppers for lunch, like oh yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: so you know, the one kid goes I'll do it
Speaker 1: so again in twenty bucks. He drives down to a
Speaker 1: main post, Golsberger King gets the uh the whoppers, and
Speaker 1: by he comes back with twenty dollars worth of whoppers.
Speaker 1: This was a ton of whoppers. This is an O two,
Speaker 1: So twenty dollars is this a ton of whoppers? So
Speaker 1: we eat our field. We got these leftover whoppers. And
Speaker 1: the most dangerous creature in the world is a bored
Speaker 1: infantryman soldier. It really is. You get board grunts and
Speaker 1: they're gonna get really, really, really creative. So I'm going
Speaker 1: to refer to these kids from here on us, Daniel
Speaker 1: Boone and David Crockett. They start making bows and arrows
Speaker 1: and they're making spears and they're they're bored and there's
Speaker 1: nothing to do, and we're in the woods and you know,
Speaker 1: we're talking and when you know, soldiers talk about everything
Speaker 1: from you know, women, to bear stories, hometown stories, religion, movies,
Speaker 1: everything all under the sun. Well, these, you know, David
Speaker 1: Crockett then will be decided to get creative. And they
Speaker 1: asked me if they could take the leftover whoppers and
Speaker 1: go make some traps for the the coages that were
Speaker 1: asking Sergeant End the night before, and of course, sure,
Speaker 1: go ahead, sure, go ahead. You know one kids from Ohio,
Speaker 1: the other kids from no New York. So go go
Speaker 1: make you some good traps. You you go do that,
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. So they did. They
Speaker 1: went out and they sapt three traps, which was yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't care. I had a book. I was happy
Speaker 1: snack on supremechels and be in August. The sun goes
Speaker 1: down later in the day, you know that, So it's
Speaker 1: probably you got dark probably between eight thirty nine o'clock
Speaker 1: that night, and I had a little flashlight with me
Speaker 1: and I was stretched out underneath the camel came on
Speaker 1: that leaning up against my rucksack, I believe, and just
Speaker 1: snacking and reading my book, and they were standing outside.
Speaker 1: The came on. It was a small little came on,
Speaker 1: a probably you know, five by five, and they both
Speaker 1: said well, one of them said did you hear that?
Speaker 1: And that For some reason that perked my attention, and
Speaker 1: I looked up at him. I said, here, what like,
Speaker 1: will sergeant sounding some we dropped the half field of
Speaker 1: canteen on the ground. And if you've ever heard, you
Speaker 1: know our canteens, they're half field. They drop on the ground.
Speaker 1: They do make it to sin kind of a thunk.
Speaker 1: It's a really unique sound, just it's it's a thunk.
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there now. The job is the ammunition
Speaker 1: area is about four hundred meters away from the hardball,
Speaker 1: to the west of the hardball. So the hardball is
Speaker 1: a hard paved ro that everybody drives on. We have
Speaker 1: in our neighbors. We call those hardball roads, so Pedro's
Speaker 1: hardball Brian parallel. That was the taint trail. That's where
Speaker 1: the track vehicles drive on the roads so they don't
Speaker 1: tear up the asphalt or they concrete. So four hundred
Speaker 1: meters from to the east of the hardball, down this
Speaker 1: tink trail was where we were set up at and
Speaker 1: to where the ammunition, which would have been in front
Speaker 1: of me was. That was a wide open clearing, probably
Speaker 1: about a good one hundred and fifty yards completely wide,
Speaker 1: almost maybe two football fields wide. Two hundred yards wide.
Speaker 1: Across the other end side of that was a thicket
Speaker 1: of trees and they had a clear cut through there
Speaker 1: like they were gonna put telephone poles up at one
Speaker 1: point in time, So it looked like a neat little
Speaker 1: alley where the camouflage nanting was set up. Right to
Speaker 1: the right of it was a thicket. Behind the thicket
Speaker 1: was a dirt berm that ran up about five feet
Speaker 1: tall and sloped down towards the east down to the ground.
Speaker 1: And right past that was where the humbie would come
Speaker 1: in through the ammunition area. Okay, and the ammunition from
Speaker 1: where we were at the camera net was probably a
Speaker 1: good fifteen twenty meters away a little bit probably about
Speaker 1: our one o'clock issue. And then right behind us on
Speaker 1: the other side of the little tank trail that we
Speaker 1: drove down to get to the side was thick woods.
Speaker 1: It was really really thick woods. Trying to kind of
Speaker 1: give you get a picture description.
Speaker 2: Is this all within the bases boundaries or is it
Speaker 2: on the outskirts of the base?
Speaker 1: Now? This all? Yeah? Forehood is huge. This was on
Speaker 1: north for Hood, which we never trained. Yeah. I got
Speaker 1: there ninety nine and even in O two and never
Speaker 1: been that side of Fourhood. Four Hood is besides you
Speaker 1: know NTC for his one of the largest military stallations
Speaker 1: in the world. There's so much training ground out there.
Speaker 1: They own so much property, it is ridiculous. I mean,
Speaker 1: you could train for days and days and days and
Speaker 1: not go to saying spoty again. So yeah, we're still
Speaker 1: on the confines of fore hood. Yeah, at this time,
Speaker 1: because Arrange was further north of US, about a mile
Speaker 1: or so up the road for the north of US.
Speaker 1: Okay it, I mean, it's that far away to where
Speaker 1: we could not hear them firing at night. You're gonna
Speaker 1: hear a twenty five millimeters auto kind of go off
Speaker 1: at not you're gonna hear them boom boom boom boom
Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom boom boom. It was far away,
Speaker 1: we couldn't hear anything. So the kids describe, you know,
Speaker 1: hearing this funk. And I'm sitting there and what sounded
Speaker 1: like a car to me coming from the east on
Speaker 1: the hardball sounded like it hit like a pothole or
Speaker 1: a manhole cover hit something made a weird noisy. But
Speaker 1: you just I heard a car and it echoed back
Speaker 1: and forth, and I went, that's what you guys heard.
Speaker 1: Y'all heard somebody driving down the road and the sound
Speaker 1: echoed through and they were adamant. They said, no, it's
Speaker 1: it's not what we heard. It's not where we heard.
Speaker 1: It's not where we heard. And I was like, oh whatever,
Speaker 1: and you know, holding my books still. And that's when
Speaker 1: I realized that the direction where they said the sound
Speaker 1: came from, there was no crickets. There was no oh noise.
Speaker 1: It was quite to my right you could hear everything.
Speaker 1: Behind me, I could hear everything, but coming to my left,
Speaker 1: which was to the west, there was nothing. It was
Speaker 1: just quiet. And then the sound picked up, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean went the normal and to my right now
Speaker 1: towards the hardball, it got quiet. So it was just
Speaker 1: something walked, you know, from the west to the east
Speaker 1: out there past us. And I remember sitting and thinking, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, that's odd. And then they did foot flop
Speaker 1: sound picked up to the to my right, which was
Speaker 1: to the east, and got it quite over to my left,
Speaker 1: which was to the west. And I mean it wasn't
Speaker 1: like a quick unis every five minutes. It was a
Speaker 1: distinct quiet therefore a minute, if that makes sense, for
Speaker 1: a good a little bit, but pret good fifteen twenty minutes,
Speaker 1: and then slowly picked back up again, and it was
Speaker 1: enough where when the guys heard it, they caught on.
Speaker 1: And now because I was looking this on to the
Speaker 1: west and trying to see what I could see if
Speaker 1: anything was moving out there, and he caught on. I
Speaker 1: looked at me and goes, kind of quiet, isn't it sorry?
Speaker 1: And yeah, sure is. They left it at that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And now my mind I'm thinking
Speaker 1: there's somebody out here. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: everything went the normal. All sounding came the normal, and
Speaker 1: our home be drove down the road. The tank trail
Speaker 1: Humby showed up to drop off spent brass and links
Speaker 1: to drop it off. So when they fired, it kicks out,
Speaker 1: you know, the shelves bright we call him brass, and
Speaker 1: the links from the the twenty five millimeter and from
Speaker 1: the coax the SEM sixty machine gun that has. So
Speaker 1: they're dropping the boxes spent brass and links, and they're
Speaker 1: picking up more. And I was sign up for everything,
Speaker 1: and I looked over. I was talking to the humpy
Speaker 1: driver and I looked over to the camel net and
Speaker 1: realized that my kim light was gone. It was a
Speaker 1: green cam light. So the you know, the the gull sticks.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we call them kim lights chemical light because
Speaker 1: that's that's what the army calls them. These are chemical lights.
Speaker 1: So my kim light was gone and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: that's odd, and I was expecting I guess one of
Speaker 1: my soldiers had grabbed it and was using it to
Speaker 1: help see to put ammunition into the holeman area. And
Speaker 1: about that time was when I want to say, David,
Speaker 1: you know, Crocker came up to me pass to the
Speaker 1: cam light. I didn't have the kim light, and the
Speaker 1: driver of the humby gave me a full box of camlins.
Speaker 1: Was nice, and we know we shot the ship for
Speaker 1: a few more minutes and then they left and we
Speaker 1: get back over to the camel net and they were
Speaker 1: both freaked out at this point in time because the
Speaker 1: kimlight was gone and this sounds you know, the light
Speaker 1: of knew he said from before. So we had a
Speaker 1: conversation and I fully expected this time to see my
Speaker 1: kim light bounce them through the woods like they coyote
Speaker 1: had it or Jerry had like an animal. I came
Speaker 1: in and grabbed it and took off front with us.
Speaker 1: So I expect you to see run around in my
Speaker 1: mind at this point time is everything is natural. There's
Speaker 1: no supernatural, there's no crypto, there's no paranormal. There's nothing
Speaker 1: happening if there's no point in time, right, that's the
Speaker 1: only guys said, I, you know what, somebody's out here
Speaker 1: messing with us. There's another unit out here training. That's
Speaker 1: got to be They think either were the out four
Speaker 1: or with the blue floor and they're moving around this
Speaker 1: that's what they're doing. No, we have no nods, we
Speaker 1: have no weapons, we have nothing. We can't see nothing
Speaker 1: in the dark work completely yet handicap. I said, so
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. All these camlis we got, we're
Speaker 1: gonna go mark Ah, We're gonna go to every picket
Speaker 1: and put a cam up on every picket to let
Speaker 1: everybody know we're here. Yep, they didn't pop that much light,
Speaker 1: but there's another training out there. They're gonna realize something's up.
Speaker 1: So they're like, okay, and I said, plastic give it's
Speaker 1: just a little bit of light to wash the mo
Speaker 1: So something moves, we'll see it. So they get up
Speaker 1: with me and I got a little pen light out
Speaker 1: and get it. The first picket, I crack it. I can't.
Speaker 1: I marked the picket, walk down the wire, headed towards
Speaker 1: the to the east, and I get to that corner
Speaker 1: and I stand there, my backs to the west. I'm
Speaker 1: facing the east. I stand there and crack it, I
Speaker 1: mark it. And all this happened simultaneously. In ersecond, everything simultaneously.
Speaker 1: I turned the corner to head north, and as I do,
Speaker 1: I take one step, I step into a cold spot
Speaker 1: that was so cold I saw my breath in the
Speaker 1: light of the flashlight. Okay, same time I'm stepping this
Speaker 1: cold spot, I hear a thunk, the distinct half canteen
Speaker 1: sound thunk. I hear the sound coming to the same
Speaker 1: direction I heard from, which is the west, and I'm
Speaker 1: whipping to my head. I'm trying to step back and look,
Speaker 1: and David Crockett and Daniel Boone a freaking out, like
Speaker 1: he did you hear it? I'm like, yeah, shut up,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to step back in this cold spot that's
Speaker 1: not there anymore. So they're freaking out, and I'm watching
Speaker 1: to the west because now I hear there's somebody. It's again,
Speaker 1: it's a canteen. There's somebody physically out there with us.
Speaker 1: We go around with finished marking the ammunition area, we
Speaker 1: go back to the camel net and they were always excited.
Speaker 1: I can't remember what the conversation was about. I said,
Speaker 1: this was, you know, about twenty three years ago, So
Speaker 1: now do you remember at one point though I don't
Speaker 1: remember what made me decide to do it, And I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was still the sounds going up
Speaker 1: and down to left and right of me, but I
Speaker 1: pulled this out of the camel on net and I
Speaker 1: moved this in between the thicket and this little thinket bush,
Speaker 1: I mean briar patch kind of thing. It was probably
Speaker 1: about three and a half into four feet tall, but
Speaker 1: really really thick they kind of thickness of our rabbit
Speaker 1: won't run into, you know what I mean. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: to my left was the ammunition. But the thing it
Speaker 1: was like a foot away from me. I stressed my
Speaker 1: arm out was probably another foot before it was right there.
Speaker 1: I thought, guys were in a squat down and we're
Speaker 1: going to catch whoever is out here messing with us.
Speaker 1: And we dropped on down to a three c superimeter.
Speaker 1: I was facing to the east and I had you know,
Speaker 1: boon on one shoulder, and cracking on the other shoulder,
Speaker 1: and they're facing different directions. So I was covering from
Speaker 1: here and they were recovering, overlapping all around us. And
Speaker 1: within a matter of minutes of doing this, something by
Speaker 1: peal starts walking towards me. I've been in the woods
Speaker 1: a lot. I've had people a lot years of training
Speaker 1: and walking and listening and ambushing and knowing what people
Speaker 1: are going to sound like for them walking through the
Speaker 1: woods and what they're going to walk. And I know
Speaker 1: what deer sounds like, and I know the rusty sound
Speaker 1: of a rabbit going to be like, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, or an armydello or something. I know this stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean in the infantry, we don't we don't sit
Speaker 1: in the barracks all the time we're out training. So
Speaker 1: this bipedal thing starts walking towards me. And there was
Speaker 1: no moon out yet. It was the starlight, and there
Speaker 1: was a cluster trees to the distance, and I was
Speaker 1: squading down, getting my head lower and lower and lower
Speaker 1: to try and silhouette whatever was coming to me, if
Speaker 1: that makes sense. So I could kind of get a
Speaker 1: good you know what was happening. And Brandon, they probably
Speaker 1: got about four feet in front of me by sound alone,
Speaker 1: of course, I'm guessing at this point in time, it's dark.
Speaker 1: I can't see nothing, and it sounds like it's about
Speaker 1: four feet in front of me. I turned the flashlight
Speaker 1: on and well went back and forth turning flashlight on.
Speaker 1: It's just walking closer. Uh, I'll give it name away.
Speaker 1: Crocket on my left kept saying, oh crap, oh crap,
Speaker 1: oh crap. But it wasn't crap he was saying, and
Speaker 1: I ended up. I was elbowing him to shut him up,
Speaker 1: as he would, you know, I mean, oh crap, crap, crap,
Speaker 1: So I was elbowing him. This incomes walking in four
Speaker 1: feet turn the flashlight on and all simultaneously. Again. As
Speaker 1: I turn the light on, nothing's in front of me.
Speaker 1: Immediately to my right and a thicket something bolts and runs.
Speaker 1: I mean, you hear somebody get up and run. You've
Speaker 1: been the whist before, you know. It sounds like somebody
Speaker 1: jumps up and runs, right, Yeah, somebody something jumped up
Speaker 1: and ram I jump up at this time. So you
Speaker 1: got my flashlight on. Then I'm running around the thicket.
Speaker 1: So I'm running parallel to the thinke it to go
Speaker 1: up on top of the dirt berm to try and
Speaker 1: intercept whoever's just bolted right. Uh, the guy who was
Speaker 1: on my left crockett again, We'll just go crock it.
Speaker 1: He was right behind me. As I was running forward,
Speaker 1: I got on top of the berm brand this giant
Speaker 1: rock lands behind me. Bomp, bump. You've thrown big rocks before.
Speaker 1: You've seen big rocks thrown before. You don't only hit
Speaker 1: that dump they do that too. Thump skip, yeah right
Speaker 1: they just in yeah, I thump, thump, and I stopped
Speaker 1: and I whipped around and again at the bottom of
Speaker 1: the berm, let's crock it. So I go back down
Speaker 1: the crocket and I grab him by this beaky top
Speaker 1: and I'm pulling face to face and I'm like, if
Speaker 1: this is you, fers FM with me, I'm going to
Speaker 1: f And there's a lot of fing going on this conversation.
Speaker 1: As I'm yelling at him and threatening him and you know,
Speaker 1: no and open his life, I realized he's crying. Brain
Speaker 1: He's literally I mean, this is a trained infantry soldier crying, crying,
Speaker 1: scared to death. As I got to face to face
Speaker 1: and I realized that he's crying behind me in the woods.
Speaker 1: We just talked about this, not at at twigs snap,
Speaker 1: not a branch break, a log break, you know how
Speaker 1: when a log you know, we sound, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, loud, loud crumble. And I pushed him
Speaker 1: off of me, run over the berm, and I crossed
Speaker 1: the tank trail and I get probably about fifteen feet
Speaker 1: into the woods. You give a little flashlight on, and
Speaker 1: this is this is good, you know everything say this
Speaker 1: is all flat, which it is, and there's no trees on.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of trees out there, and this was
Speaker 1: thick and it was just black. This is always a
Speaker 1: part of the story that I have a hard time with.
Speaker 1: It was so it was so dark in the woods
Speaker 1: with the light on, it felt like that my light
Speaker 1: wasn't really working, if that made sense. It was extremely oppressive,
Speaker 1: you know, the until you felt that when people said
Speaker 1: the air is really heavy, it was really just just
Speaker 1: like crowdy was really pushing down on you. That's what
Speaker 1: it felt like. And the funny part about it is
Speaker 1: is that my memory of this isn't of me from me,
Speaker 1: you know, looking from my own eyes, looking at myself
Speaker 1: at about the two o'clock, three o'clock positions, or I'm
Speaker 1: looking at me, if that makes sense, probably about ten
Speaker 1: feet away or so, watching me with a flashlight. Stop.
Speaker 1: But I do remember the film that I had though
Speaker 1: was I needed to get out. I needed to get out.
Speaker 1: I needed to get out. I needed to get out.
Speaker 1: I run run is Everything was telling me to run,
Speaker 1: And it was quiet. Everything was that's quiet, and it's
Speaker 1: real hard to I don't know. I had to be there,
Speaker 1: but it was just right. So I backed out. I
Speaker 1: remember that I slow back out of the woods, and
Speaker 1: I remember standing there on the tank trail facing the woods,
Speaker 1: and I felt absolutely defeated. I had I just beat
Speaker 1: emotionally physically, I was just I remember that looking at
Speaker 1: the woods and like the woods were looking back at me.
Speaker 1: Until I turned my head to the right and I
Speaker 1: saw my pickup truck and that little encling me percked
Speaker 1: up and I walked straight to my pickup truck. I
Speaker 1: fired up my truck and I turned the headlights on.
Speaker 1: It lit those woods up like there was no tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It was great, Brandon. It was like the clouds part
Speaker 1: of the sun were shining, angels were singing. Oh. It
Speaker 1: was amazing. I was ecstatic. I felt warm and happy again.
Speaker 1: Life was amazing again, until I realized I was breaking
Speaker 1: noise and light discipline. How to maintain noise and light discipline?
Speaker 1: And again crap. So I turned my truck off, I
Speaker 1: shut the head lights off. Everything got dark again, and
Speaker 1: of course it's still quiet. I just found my truck up.
Speaker 1: So whatever was happening, everything quite there at that point.
Speaker 1: But in two thousand and one this movie had come out,
Speaker 1: became a really big phenomenon. They made like fifteen of
Speaker 1: them and called Fast and Furious.
Speaker 2: M h, I think I've heard of it.
Speaker 1: I might have heard of it. So the first one
Speaker 1: came out, oh one, and everybody was doing the neon
Speaker 1: lights and everything.
Speaker 2: Remember that, Yeah, they were doing that before that movie.
Speaker 2: I still remember because when I was I was sixteen
Speaker 2: in two thousand before the movie came out, and I
Speaker 2: wanted lights under the car because a lot of people
Speaker 2: were doing that. So it's definitely that era.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, and being the service whar I was behind
Speaker 1: on everything. But yeah, so then it came out, I
Speaker 1: was like, I want neons too, so they were illegal,
Speaker 1: especially on posts. You couldn't have neons, so I ended
Speaker 1: up getting neons on my My wish wipers flew where
Speaker 1: we go, so on the midde of my truck, you
Speaker 1: know there. You know, it was really cool. We push
Speaker 1: a button and was shoot straight up onto your windshield.
Speaker 1: You don't do that anymore, I don't think so. But
Speaker 1: I had. I had my wire up through a togo
Speaker 1: switch so I could turn it off and on and everything.
Speaker 1: And I was like, my truck was back up to
Speaker 1: the tail The tailgate of my truck was where the
Speaker 1: cameraet was at. Okay, right towards the camera net. So
Speaker 1: I turned my kneons on and I was like, ah.
Speaker 1: I walked over to the camel at Barren and Crockett
Speaker 1: and Boone. Sorry I won't get a name away. They're
Speaker 1: standing there pretty much hugging each other. Okay, I'm not
Speaker 1: being I mean, I'm seriously. I mean they were crying
Speaker 1: and begging to leave, and we were getting into an argument,
Speaker 1: and I lit up a cigarette and I was like,
Speaker 1: we can't leave, y'all, we can't. We have to stay.
Speaker 1: They were begging to leave. I don't know what happened
Speaker 1: to them while I was in the woods. Does that
Speaker 1: make sense?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I didn't share what happened in the woods with them.
Speaker 1: They didn't share what happened, if anything happened at all
Speaker 1: by the ammunition area. So I remember arguing with them
Speaker 1: and I turned my head towards my truck where then
Speaker 1: you know, the neon lights were on right Brandon something
Speaker 1: watch in front of it. Then they winked out, you
Speaker 1: know when you're walking from a light kind of does
Speaker 1: a little weeks out. I dropped my cigarette and I
Speaker 1: was there in a matter of seconds. So I was like,
Speaker 1: I've got you. Now, I'm going back to there's somebody
Speaker 1: out here, there's another people aren't messing with us. Seconds
Speaker 1: seconds of that, and then I was there at the
Speaker 1: front of my truck. Nobody nobody, nobody running down the
Speaker 1: tank trail, nobody under the vehicles, nobody going anywhere, and
Speaker 1: nobody ran into the woods. I would have hurt them,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it was thick woods. You're gonna
Speaker 1: make noise, especially night trying to run through the woods,
Speaker 1: even with trust me. Ever, great things like vision is
Speaker 1: a great thing in the world. Try running it through
Speaker 1: the woods with night vision on. You're gonna fall flat
Speaker 1: on your face. I can promise you.
Speaker 2: Well even if you're out on base too, like, it
Speaker 2: would have to have been someone else from a unit
Speaker 2: out there screwed.
Speaker 1: Around miles miles away from where you.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, it doesn't make sense for it to
Speaker 2: be anyone, like just a random person that have no access.
Speaker 2: I guess obviously they broke onto the base, but that
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense why someone would do that just
Speaker 2: to come out learn and screw around with a couple.
Speaker 1: Of guys exactly, and not knowing whether we were armed
Speaker 1: or not.
Speaker 2: That's that's asking to be shot.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that's one of those Faranda
Speaker 1: find out games, you know what I mean. But uh yeah,
Speaker 1: from there, Yeah, I walked back over and they were
Speaker 1: staring at me, and I picked my cigarette up, and
Speaker 1: I looked down and said, we're staying. And I sat down,
Speaker 1: and my next memory is the moon coming up. And
Speaker 1: it was about three o'clock in the morning, and there
Speaker 1: was they were right there with me. There was crickets,
Speaker 1: noises going on. And then my next memory is the
Speaker 1: sign coming up. So that morning suddenly comes up. Everybody's braver,
Speaker 1: everybody's smarter, everybody's all figured out right, We're standing in
Speaker 1: the air and I said, you know what, guys, I
Speaker 1: know what it was last night. You check your coyote traps.
Speaker 1: You'll check those whoppers y'all left out there and they
Speaker 1: got excided. Oh so that's it. That's it. I'm pretty
Speaker 1: proud of myself. Look I get it all figured out.
Speaker 1: Sergeant Am had coyotes. We had coyotes. They started jumping
Speaker 1: up and down and yelling my name. With the first whopper,
Speaker 1: got the first trap, and I stroll on over. That
Speaker 1: whopper had was unwrapped. They do unwrapped the whoppers out
Speaker 1: the packaging. They had said it on top of the wrapper.
Speaker 1: So it was an unwrapped whopper, completely untouched, completely intact,
Speaker 1: had a few insects on it. That was it. Same
Speaker 1: theme with the second one, same theme with the third one.
Speaker 1: Nothing came in that night, coyote wise, animal wise, nothing
Speaker 1: wise came in and touched one of those whoppers.
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you so much, want to
Speaker 2: wait till you're done. So when you went into the
Speaker 2: woods and you said it was quiet, this is where
Speaker 2: my mind goes to because if you listen to a
Speaker 2: lot of people that have had these sort of experiences,
Speaker 2: they always say the wood like the woods go quiet.
Speaker 2: You don't hear crickets anymore, you don't hear anything, like,
Speaker 2: it's just dead silence. So I've been trying to figure
Speaker 2: out why that is. Now. I know they claim that
Speaker 2: if there's predators or around or whatever, that you animals
Speaker 2: get quiet. I think there's a little bit, a little
Speaker 2: bit of a difference because you mentioned the feeling of
Speaker 2: getting out of there like this is this is straight
Speaker 2: wou over here. But yeah, I know, who's to say that.
Speaker 2: Let's just say these whatever this was because you didn't
Speaker 2: actually see it, So I won't call it a sass.
Speaker 2: I won't call a sas squad, I won't call a
Speaker 2: dog man or whatever. But whatever this thing was was bipedal.
Speaker 2: Who's to say? And I actually talked with Tony about
Speaker 2: this when I was on his show. It's like I
Speaker 2: think he referred to as like a bridge, like it's
Speaker 2: like a bridge between worlds. Who's to say, Like when
Speaker 2: you stepped into those woods. The reason that people go
Speaker 2: like the things go silent because what if these things
Speaker 2: are opening up a doorway. Everything looks normal to us,
Speaker 2: but when you step through it, you're in that bridge
Speaker 2: point between their world and our world. That makes sense,
Speaker 2: it does.
Speaker 1: You're also tied in with the thump sound.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So since I've talked to him, I've been thinking
Speaker 2: about this and I was like, I think there is
Speaker 2: more Like it makes sense because if these things are
Speaker 2: of a weird, different supernatural plane of existence or whatever
Speaker 2: these whatever they are, who knows, it does make sense
Speaker 2: that you don't hear the normal things because you're entering
Speaker 2: an area even with like just say paranormal stuff cold spots,
Speaker 2: like is it something from the other side like when
Speaker 2: you're entering that. So the energy is different, the frequencies
Speaker 2: are different, everything's a little bit different because their world's
Speaker 2: merging into our world. Like That's how I've been trying
Speaker 2: to rationalize a lot of it, at least to make sense,
Speaker 2: which doesn't make sense, but it makes sense.
Speaker 1: No, No, I get it, And I'll be honest with you,
Speaker 1: Like like I was saying, you know, throughout the Home
Speaker 1: Pire night, you know, the first I mean, the thing
Speaker 1: walking towards me my mind was a man all the
Speaker 1: way through. All the way through this was a person
Speaker 1: coming up towards me. And when the rock got thrown
Speaker 1: is an O two To be honest with you, never thought.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was in the big Foot step, but
Speaker 1: my military career had a priority, so I was more
Speaker 1: into the military. Yeah, there'd be a TV show or documentary,
Speaker 1: I'd watch it. That'd be about it. But we didn't
Speaker 1: have time to watch TV shows. To be honest with you,
Speaker 1: there's like I you're like eleven years of TV shows
Speaker 1: I never really watched. So I didn't thinking about bigfoot
Speaker 1: and rock throwing until like, you know, this is No.
Speaker 1: Two until like about two thousand and nine, watching a
Speaker 1: documentary and they were talking about rocks being thrown at
Speaker 1: him in bolder sized rocks, and I was laying in
Speaker 1: bed watching it, sat up going, oh my god, that
Speaker 1: happened to me, you know. But that rock being thrones
Speaker 1: that really caught me off guard. And I thought it was,
Speaker 1: you know, those guys carrying the rock running behind me,
Speaker 1: and that's where my mind was at. They were we're
Speaker 1: gonna start this rock, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 1: going in the woods. What was really surreal about it,
Speaker 1: again is I had no fear of running into the woods.
Speaker 1: I knew that's where they were at. I was making
Speaker 1: a bee line, but again I got ten fifteen feet
Speaker 1: in there and it was. It was silent, and there's
Speaker 1: I have a flash of me looking at me from
Speaker 1: you know, would have been me's you know about two
Speaker 1: three o'clock position, which is surreal, and I'm holding a
Speaker 1: flashlight in the woods. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: But I don't you know, there's no assol I don't
Speaker 1: you know. No, none of that was just my memory
Speaker 1: is of that. But I but I remember just happened
Speaker 1: to leave where you wanted to leave. You did not
Speaker 1: want to be there, and the feeling was so strong.
Speaker 1: My my guards were crying to leave, begging to leave.
Speaker 2: Did you ever ask them what happened?
Speaker 1: No? I never did. I did go up to Sarge
Speaker 1: so they were not my patunon. Sergeant n was my
Speaker 1: patun and I ran to him a couple of days
Speaker 1: lay at the units, and I was kind of the
Speaker 1: wird guy was I was always in this stuff. So
Speaker 1: I would talk ghost stories and I would talk bigfoot stuff,
Speaker 1: and I was, you know, and uh, I said, hey, son,
Speaker 1: let me ask the question. He goes, what's up? I said,
Speaker 1: so that night guard duty when I re leaved, you
Speaker 1: coyotes And he looked me dead in the eye, very
Speaker 1: sternly went coyotes and went the whack away went whoa, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: come back here, Oh no no, did you see the coyotes?
Speaker 1: And again he looked me stern in the eye and
Speaker 1: went coyotes and walked off. Now in the military, I
Speaker 1: didn't give a crap. I didn't care. I was. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was as hard that you wanted to have but
Speaker 1: didn't want to have. I took care of my guys
Speaker 1: that do what I trained up hard, and I was
Speaker 1: goofy I was. I was the fun goofy one. We're
Speaker 1: gonna goof off. We're gonna have a good time. We're
Speaker 1: gonna make training fun and realistic. And this is what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. I mean I if we were in
Speaker 1: the barracks, I would have my squad raid the other
Speaker 1: squad's bergsherms. Yeah we did. That's how I trained them,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, so we did the little stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So yeah, we do. I got a lot
Speaker 1: of trouble too, by the way, got on to that yet,
Speaker 1: But you know, beide this point. The guys that came
Speaker 1: up to me about a week later, the guards Boone
Speaker 1: and Crockett did and they had we had. I had
Speaker 1: to map out how to get to this the guard side.
Speaker 1: We that's how we had to get there was by maps.
Speaker 1: I mean, so there's like, okay, here's a grit warnt
Speaker 1: go okay, So I had a plot of grid and
Speaker 1: drive my vehicle out. Oh yeah it was. It was great.
Speaker 1: So that's how we had to get there. And they
Speaker 1: were like, hey, looks on there's an archaeological site probably
Speaker 1: about two thousand meters away. And I was like, yeah, look,
Speaker 1: then there's another one about two thousand meters away from
Speaker 1: that one, and there's another one over here, so four
Speaker 1: hoods on there on the on the maps have spots
Speaker 1: for archaeological sites. And they were and I bless her heart,
Speaker 1: they're trying to tie in what happened to us, and
Speaker 1: we were going with the paranormal that night, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense. That's the only time we ever talked was
Speaker 1: about about fifteen minutes that day. And they're like, it's
Speaker 1: going to be ghosts on and I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was, just leave it alone.
Speaker 1: But you know, so let me go back to the
Speaker 1: you know, I left. You know, I got relieved by
Speaker 1: my relief and I went home and my ex wife
Speaker 1: when I got home, looked at me, and as she
Speaker 1: described it, I had bags under my eyes. So I
Speaker 1: looked like I had slept, I mean, and I don't
Speaker 1: remember sleeping, you know. I h Todd niece is a
Speaker 1: good friend of mine. He had an encounter ninety three
Speaker 1: with three sasquatch and he actually went through and did
Speaker 1: regressive hypnosis on it. He encounted to pull up more
Speaker 1: details as such. And we've talked about this before. He's
Speaker 1: encouraging me to go back because I have all this
Speaker 1: missing time from that night. Now, you know, after you know,
Speaker 1: the light, I thought we canna like sat down supt
Speaker 1: a cigarette. Then like the moon comes up four hours later,
Speaker 1: and then the sun comes up a few hours after that.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what took place in between, you know.
Speaker 1: So but that morning, though, my ex looked at me
Speaker 1: and she was like, ye are you okay? I mean,
Speaker 1: she's I mean, I look pale. I was shaken. I
Speaker 1: had bags under my eyes. I looked one hundred percent
Speaker 1: ext I mean, just more and now. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: when I kind of told her what happened, and she goes,
Speaker 1: that is so weird like yeah, And that evening we
Speaker 1: were going to a buddy mine place and I mean
Speaker 1: his why we're having us sober, We're gonna barbecue, have
Speaker 1: some beers, that kind of thing, just kind of chill out.
Speaker 1: And when I got there, I was still shook up
Speaker 1: where you know. Sam looked at me and he goes,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, man, you all right? I said, no,
Speaker 1: I had the craziest night last night. And he goes,
Speaker 1: what I said, man, and again started off like you're
Speaker 1: not going to believe this shit. And I went and
Speaker 1: told him and he goes and don hervery. Sam was
Speaker 1: from uh Mexicial who immigrated on and became John Under.
Speaker 1: Sam goes, what do you want to do? I said,
Speaker 1: I want to get my truck and I'll drive back
Speaker 1: out there again. Then he goes, let's go. So we did.
Speaker 1: We got my truck and I drove right back to
Speaker 1: the guard site at night, about ten o'clock at the night.
Speaker 1: Drove all the way back up there, and when I
Speaker 1: got there, I was like, what I want to tell
Speaker 1: these guys why I'm here. And the guy that relieved me,
Speaker 1: he goes, hey, man, what are you doing here? I went, oh, dude,
Speaker 1: I man I had a knife back here last night
Speaker 1: and I can't find it and know if I dropped
Speaker 1: it out here or not. I'm doing if I look
Speaker 1: around for a minute, and I got my flashlight for
Speaker 1: Tim to look around the camel on that stuff, and
Speaker 1: I'm asking him how's everything going, And he's like, okay,
Speaker 1: he woke me up. You know, it felt normal standing
Speaker 1: there around looking around, and I even wandered off for
Speaker 1: a minute and I walked into the woods. Felt normal.
Speaker 1: Even with me driving down the road. There are still
Speaker 1: insects going on and crickets and everything happening. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was normal. And we got back to my truck
Speaker 1: and I let to say him. I was like, this
Speaker 1: is this feels normal and he goes, yeah, bro, and
Speaker 1: he goes, what do you think happens? Like I don't know.
Speaker 1: And I went back to his place, But yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's it felt normal.
Speaker 2: I am not a person of the woods. Like I
Speaker 2: don't mind going out in the woods during the day,
Speaker 2: the ones it gets overgrown like in the summertime and stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't like being out there because it's so thick.
Speaker 2: And you we discussed as earlier. I'm not a fan
Speaker 2: of certain creepy crawley things that are around in the
Speaker 2: woods all the time. So for me, like that's why
Speaker 2: I need to get all this stuff to finish this
Speaker 2: documentary before things get overgrown and you can't see anything anyways.
Speaker 2: But I'm not looking forward to going out in the
Speaker 2: woods at night time. That is the Like I'm not
Speaker 2: afraid of the dark, and I'm not afraid of the woods,
Speaker 2: but like just because it being the woods and it's
Speaker 2: dark and it's just me and it's one other person
Speaker 2: that gives it automatic creep factor because let's just say
Speaker 2: that there isn't anything out there. It's the fact that
Speaker 2: you don't know and the darkness of not knowing what's
Speaker 2: just around that tree. Like I don't know, I've been
Speaker 2: excited for doing this, but that creep factor has set
Speaker 2: into me now that it's like, man, the days are
Speaker 2: getting close to go out there and start doing this,
Speaker 2: and now I'm like, shit, I actually have to go
Speaker 2: out there and do it.
Speaker 1: Because I'll be honest with you, there's I mean, it's
Speaker 1: been you know, I was in you know I would
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I stayed in obviously that's still in the
Speaker 1: military for a few more years. So I got hurt
Speaker 1: and I got out in before, so I spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time out the woods and you know, other
Speaker 1: countries at that time. But every once in a while,
Speaker 1: even out there training or whatnot in the woods at night,
Speaker 1: that would pop into my head. And now even now
Speaker 1: when I go out and do a night investigations, I
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you, I'm still a little, little,
Speaker 1: little little weary of it because of what took place
Speaker 1: on the Search of for Sasquatch episode. We do a
Speaker 1: night investigation and yeah, there are some weird stuff that
Speaker 1: happened to us and I actually have and we don't
Speaker 1: know if it kind of I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: on my camera. Jason won't tell me yet because as
Speaker 1: of recording, the episode hasn't dropped. But there's one part
Speaker 1: where the camera's on me and I'm standing and we're
Speaker 1: kind of on a line at this ridge that the
Speaker 1: little validy goes down and we're just kind of listening
Speaker 1: and just kind of doing our thing, and the camera
Speaker 1: was on me, and I had saw the stick on
Speaker 1: the ground and I was like, well, because we were
Speaker 1: coming in this valley, me and Todd niece heard movement
Speaker 1: something like you know rustling or Russian, you know rustling
Speaker 1: down right below us. Why it was daylight, and we
Speaker 1: both looked at Chilther I got quiet and kind of
Speaker 1: waked up, and we're kind of looking trying to look
Speaker 1: see if we've see anything moving down there. I was like, no, well,
Speaker 1: this weird stick was sitting there that then't fitting on
Speaker 1: the trees around me. And I was like, well, maybe
Speaker 1: this is where we heard the stick or something. And
Speaker 1: I turned around and I had uh todd Nissan on
Speaker 1: my head and something rushes it comes running up behind me.
Speaker 1: As I spun around, there was nothing there, and the
Speaker 1: camera guy caught and he sees I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was running. I don't know if we caught anything,
Speaker 1: but there's that part where you whip around. So but
Speaker 1: that wasn't nowhere near as freaky as that night.
Speaker 2: The fact that you didn't actually see it makes it
Speaker 2: a little more creepier. And that's just because, at least
Speaker 2: to me, is you still don't know, and it's the
Speaker 2: unknown aspects of things that drive me crazy. Like I
Speaker 2: saw what I saw, and I still don't believe what
Speaker 2: I saw, and I want to know what I saw.
Speaker 2: So that the unknown aspect to that. If I didn't
Speaker 2: actually see anything, I think would actually drive me more
Speaker 2: crazy of trying to figure out exactly what made what
Speaker 2: wood in front of the lights? What was the sounds
Speaker 2: like that to me, like I said, that's I don't
Speaker 2: not to describe it basically, like that would be the
Speaker 2: thing that would eat away at me. Is not knowing
Speaker 2: at all? What was that?
Speaker 1: So? Is it lighting? Like? Am I getting.
Speaker 2: Weird that it has been the whole time?
Speaker 1: That's weird because it's I was just watching it going
Speaker 1: normally been watching you, but I'm looking at myself going, well,
Speaker 1: is it getting darker?
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's been doing that the whole time. I
Speaker 2: don't know what it's been doing. But like when you're talking,
Speaker 2: like it got really really really dark and then it
Speaker 2: got brighter again, it gets really dark again.
Speaker 1: So I've so the first time I told the story
Speaker 1: to Justin and Jay, Justin was at the children's hospital
Speaker 1: when his wife is getting ready to get birth of twins.
Speaker 1: Couldnot use the episode audio anything is bad way I
Speaker 1: redo it. Couldnot use it? Uh yeah, Ryan interviewed me.
Speaker 1: Ryan of Boston Coachy's The Curiosities, same thing. His audio
Speaker 1: was screwed up and use it. We had to redo it.
Speaker 2: Well hopefully this one's not. I'll know here a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because this is the story that long to everything
Speaker 1: got me pushed. Jacob, who helped me co hosts. He's
Speaker 1: a really good, great guy, good friend. We would talk
Speaker 1: about the Aha story from time to time, you know,
Speaker 1: sit around bar a couple of guys. This is kind
Speaker 1: of how drink Crims just started. But he told me
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago to listen because I was
Speaker 1: trying to push stuff up. And now we get windy
Speaker 1: goes and skin walkers and I don't think there's no
Speaker 1: skin walkers in Arkansas. I can promise you that there's
Speaker 1: not going to be a skin walkers in Arkansas. I'm
Speaker 1: way too ease for skinwalkers. Yeah, but it came up
Speaker 1: with so many different cryptids at the same time and
Speaker 1: I couldn't narrow it down. So he told me to
Speaker 1: go on listen to podcasts and I found Chasbos Chronicles
Speaker 1: and I heard any Counter on there and a guy
Speaker 1: described the same things. Something walking up and they started
Speaker 1: talking about cloaking or whatnot. I was like, well, well
Speaker 1: wait a minute, okay, hold on a second. It's similar
Speaker 1: to what happened to me. Something was there, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't there. So I emailed West and like, hey, okay,
Speaker 1: if you heard you know, you got a hold of me.
Speaker 1: We talked for about forty five minutes of the phone
Speaker 1: about everything, and he goes, yeah, for you know, similar
Speaker 1: encounters is such. He goes, do you want to come
Speaker 1: on the show? And I did. That's how I got
Speaker 1: I want to do the stuff is because through there.
Speaker 1: But what I went through, I have no idea what
Speaker 1: it was. I can't look at you and say, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was bigfoot, that was a dog man, that was
Speaker 1: a camera. Lights flickering behind me, which is weird because
Speaker 1: there's no life flickering in the house.
Speaker 2: You're dark right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been doing that. Al I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's the light behind you cause them to do that.
Speaker 1: The only light I have behind me is this lamp there.
Speaker 1: I'll show you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then there's my sense he h. And that's my
Speaker 1: newly adopt the little dog.
Speaker 2: My dog's probably in bed, well.
Speaker 1: Mine is, so I have my boy Jackie's in his
Speaker 1: bed and he might come out here in a second.
Speaker 1: But my kid made me adopt a little you Boston
Speaker 1: Terrier last week and they named him Nugget. So I
Speaker 1: have a dog named Nugget.
Speaker 2: I've got a Siri, which is funny because the phones,
Speaker 2: I think we're referring to that. And her name is
Speaker 2: Princess Sorilla from the Witcher that we call her Siri,
Speaker 2: and she's a white German shepherd, so she's the White Wolf,
Speaker 2: so so there's reference to that. And because we're dorky nerds.
Speaker 2: The other dog we just got last year is again
Speaker 2: my parents come home with two was a brother and
Speaker 2: sister that someone was getting rid of, and they're golden doodles.
Speaker 2: So we took the mail and because he's got almost
Speaker 2: was like a fro because his hair is so curly
Speaker 2: and everything, we called him Fro.
Speaker 1: Do love it.
Speaker 2: So we got Frod and Siri. I was like, well,
Speaker 2: we got the the nerd aspect going on in the house.
Speaker 1: But I'm a diehard Star Wars nerd. I mean, so
Speaker 1: like my the tavernat I built outside, what is really
Speaker 1: neat is I have some little crypted things in there,
Speaker 1: but I also have like a little Star Wars stuff.
Speaker 1: I've got the Holy Grail from I Jones behind the bar.
Speaker 1: I've got the the cube from hell Razer nice just
Speaker 1: kind of sitting there. I've got, you know, a little
Speaker 1: predator mask, you know, I've got I have a jeep,
Speaker 1: so I get ducked all the time and we do
Speaker 1: the de game stuff, and I ended up getting a
Speaker 1: duck that's dressed up as Slimmer from Ghostbusters and such.
Speaker 1: You know. So I have weird little cryptied things put
Speaker 1: up down there and little paranormal stuff. And Holly would
Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, you know, I've got like the
Speaker 1: the amber piece with the mosquito in it from Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1: So I get the whole nerd aspect, Like my whole
Speaker 1: bathroom was decorated in the sasquatch stuff. So it's yeah,
Speaker 1: I trust me, I respect the nerd.
Speaker 2: You can't see it, but basically this site over here
Speaker 2: is all of my Godzilla stuff. I'm a huge Godzilla nerd.
Speaker 2: That's literally what I'm rocking right now. But all of
Speaker 2: my toys and all my other stuff like posters and
Speaker 2: pictures and stuff, it's all over there, and everything back
Speaker 2: here is all my cryptid stuff. My buddy did most
Speaker 2: of the artwork. He does all the drawings and stuff.
Speaker 2: So I've got it back there, and but no on
Speaker 2: the desk, I've got my random little cryptid figurines. I've
Speaker 2: got my dog man and I've got them off Man.
Speaker 2: And then I actually just got this a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks ago, little bigfoot sasquatch guy.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's pretty cool. I got to we did a
Speaker 1: town hall meeting I did when we were doing the documentary.
Speaker 1: We did a town hall up in Harrison, Arkansas, and
Speaker 1: we had a guy show up again this really neat
Speaker 1: little wood carving thing with you know, Bible coat and
Speaker 1: everything about, you know, with bigfoot and stuff like that
Speaker 1: on it. That's pretty cool. So I have that down
Speaker 1: here as well. And then I got a three D
Speaker 1: printed bigfoot somebody did and they gave they gifted meat,
Speaker 1: which is pretty Awesomehow.
Speaker 2: My uncle did the sign up here, I can't really
Speaker 2: see it behind me, boots, you can kind of see
Speaker 2: the little big finiss on air or whatever. He did
Speaker 2: that by hand. And then my father in law he
Speaker 2: actually has a bigfoot carved out. They have one of
Speaker 2: those laser machines, so well, the wood engraved. I got
Speaker 2: a wooden grave bigfoot up there too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then so that's a story. I had to
Speaker 1: change the subject there because I'm not gonna lie. It's
Speaker 1: you know, even living it and it's being you know,
Speaker 1: twenty three years ago.
Speaker 2: It's still still screws with you, it does, you know.
Speaker 1: When I was you know again, I just you know,
Speaker 1: we just redid my interview with the you know ry
Speaker 1: on Friday, and you know, Friday nice to me? Are
Speaker 1: my unwind from cause I work a normal job besides
Speaker 1: doing this stuff, and I'm a single dad. So when
Speaker 1: I'm kid free, my Friday night is the fire pit,
Speaker 1: you know, right there at the tavern outside, so we
Speaker 1: do fires. People come over, we drink severers, we relax,
Speaker 1: we play music and it's just me that unwind. And
Speaker 1: I got done with it and people showed up afterward.
Speaker 1: And now my buddy Tony I thought my him earlier,
Speaker 1: was like you all right, so yeah, I just went
Speaker 1: through and he goes, aha, well pretty much.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm to the point now or I don't
Speaker 2: enjoy talking about Like when people always ask me you
Speaker 2: want to come on my show? You want to come
Speaker 2: on show? I was like, sure, I don't want to
Speaker 2: be that person said no, because I understand what it's
Speaker 2: like needing guests shows. I don't want to tell people no.
Speaker 2: But since I did Tony's show, I've not done another
Speaker 2: interview just because I don't enjoy doing an interview. It's
Speaker 2: weird I interview people. I have a show, but I
Speaker 2: don't enjoy talking about myself.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: So it's like I feel awkward being the one talking
Speaker 2: about my stuff because for the first year of this show,
Speaker 2: I never talked about anything about myself because I didn't
Speaker 2: want the show to be about me.
Speaker 1: So it's, yeah, same thing.
Speaker 2: So it's weird to be.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing about it is what I've learned is
Speaker 1: it does turn into a too about us to a point,
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think it's a lot of way for
Speaker 1: the audience and for our guess a lot of ways
Speaker 1: to understand, you know, when they do want to come on,
Speaker 1: because I know for a lot of people it is
Speaker 1: you know, I've had I've had I've had a few
Speaker 1: people come on and they were real, real hesitant and
Speaker 1: nervous to talk about it. And you know, I fact
Speaker 1: when people get some emotional and I want to be
Speaker 1: able to create that you know, that safe space, you know,
Speaker 1: like we were talking. You know, it's hard to you know,
Speaker 1: interview somebody and sometimes you want to ask certain questions,
Speaker 1: but you don't want to have to call somebody out
Speaker 1: at the same time. And I look at it as
Speaker 1: you know, I got asked, you know, off every by
Speaker 1: somebody a couple of weeks ago, a by the show.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, do you believe everybody? And my answer
Speaker 1: to them was, I believe everybody's coming on my show
Speaker 1: experience something mm hmm. What that was, I don't know,
Speaker 1: misidentification of an animal. I don't know who was it this,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know they had something, whether it
Speaker 1: be paranormal or cryptid enough to the point where they're
Speaker 1: not getting paid to come on the show. I'm not
Speaker 1: giving them money, come on, They're not writing book deals,
Speaker 1: not going to Hollywood for them, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: with a script. These are our neighbors. These are people
Speaker 1: down the street who got brave enough to come on.
Speaker 1: So I think that when we do and they do
Speaker 1: know that we've had encounters, and they do know that
Speaker 1: we've had experiences, you know, and they do know that
Speaker 1: that's what made us, do you know, get our platform
Speaker 1: out there and create a platform for them to come
Speaker 1: on and to knock it out so that they'll you know,
Speaker 1: the more you talk it out, the more it gets easier.
Speaker 1: And it does to a point. But at the same
Speaker 1: time too, though, when I get done with the story,
Speaker 1: I have to change the topic. If you know, I
Speaker 1: jumped right away from it.
Speaker 2: It brings up everything again, Like whatever you felt that
Speaker 2: night comes creeping back in, at least it does for me.
Speaker 2: And yep, I wasn't creepy. This was what's funny though,
Speaker 2: Like I was asked by Vic kund Off, like, how
Speaker 2: did it impact me? And I told him it didn't
Speaker 2: have any impact on me, which isn't true because I'm
Speaker 2: doing a frigging show about all this stuff. So after
Speaker 2: I said all that, I got thinking about it, I
Speaker 2: was like, well, clearly it did have some sort of
Speaker 2: an impact because it's bothered me for so long of
Speaker 2: not knowing. And the reason I wanted to start a
Speaker 2: show is because I thought maybe I wouldn't feel so
Speaker 2: bad about not knowing what happen to me because I'm
Speaker 2: giving people a chance to talk about it. Because I
Speaker 2: never felt like I could talk about what happened to me,
Speaker 2: and I don't want to try and say I'm here
Speaker 2: to prove or disprove anybody. I'm literally just letting people
Speaker 2: come on here to talk. Now, just like you, you
Speaker 2: really believe everything that comes on your show. I have
Speaker 2: been honest from the get goes. I remained skeptical on
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff. That's just how I have to
Speaker 2: stay grounded, because if you don't have that balance, you're
Speaker 2: going to go right off the cliff and you're out
Speaker 2: in La La Land, floating around on whatever bubble you're
Speaker 2: floating on. So I try and stay grounded in the skepticalness.
Speaker 2: So I don't say I believe everything, but I believe
Speaker 2: whoever comes on the show believes what they're telling me.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: So I'm not going to argue that this person didn't
Speaker 2: have this experience because I wasn't there. As much as
Speaker 2: it sounds like complete another nonsense to people, we weren't there,
Speaker 2: we don't really know. So that that's the mentality that
Speaker 2: I take with it is I wasn't there, so I
Speaker 2: cannot verify one way or the other. But this is
Speaker 2: what they're saying to happen, and I believe that they
Speaker 2: believe this is the truth. So it's third face So
Speaker 2: that's been my mantra.
Speaker 1: Same, absolutely same, because I have my own cryptical beliefs,
Speaker 1: have my own paranormal beliefs, you know that I keep.
Speaker 1: And I'll be honest with you though by doing the
Speaker 1: show and you know, talking with you know, guys like you, you
Speaker 1: know justin a Jay right, you know John, all these
Speaker 1: other podcasters and stuff, who we all are getting these
Speaker 1: encounters and listening to people talk. My opinion on like
Speaker 1: my opinion of Bigfoot changes every hour and a half.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, it really does, because I will
Speaker 1: obviously thinking, well, wait a minute, no, somebody said that
Speaker 1: they had Okay, that ties in with somebody else, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So my opinion changes all the time.
Speaker 1: And then when it comes to lad the paranormal, Like
Speaker 1: my new theory right now on shadow people is you
Speaker 1: know they talked about how you know, when they got
Speaker 1: flowed the world and the Nephelim and everybody was killed,
Speaker 1: but they had no soul so they couldn't well, they
Speaker 1: had sold, but they couldn't go to heaven. They couldn't
Speaker 1: go to hell. So they left the room and I'll go, well,
Speaker 1: what are the shadow people of the So the spirits
Speaker 1: of the watchers, and that's what they're doing because they're
Speaker 1: like peeping toms. Every shadow person that I've encountered, and
Speaker 1: every shadow person that I hear people talk about about
Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of them are there's a shadow person,
Speaker 1: like you know, right there. It's like peeking out of
Speaker 1: the corners. Because you make eye contact with it, it
Speaker 1: runs away, right, So I'm like, what are there? You know?
Speaker 1: So they're peeping toms, you know, That's kind of how
Speaker 1: I look at shadow people.
Speaker 2: That's the watchers. I thought that, uh, maybe the shadow
Speaker 2: people are again just the whole loose side. But what
Speaker 2: if they're on that other plane of existence and we're
Speaker 2: only seeing it's bleeding into our world, so that veils
Speaker 2: a little thinner or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2: I know that's the cliche term, but we're seeing aspects
Speaker 2: to the other side. Now. I threw this out to
Speaker 2: someone else and they actually they I don't remember who
Speaker 2: the hell it was, but they actually like my theory
Speaker 2: as maybe once we leave here, like once our energy
Speaker 2: leaves this plane of existence. And I'm not saying to heaven,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying a hell, but what if we achieve
Speaker 2: whatever we are here and we leave our body. What
Speaker 2: if those shadow people are not us, but like people
Speaker 2: like us that have moved on to the next stage.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, which I've heard apparently there's different stages
Speaker 2: of Heaven and Hell lately, which I didn't know about
Speaker 2: any of that either, but I guess Dante's Inferno, there's
Speaker 2: what nine levels of Hell?
Speaker 1: Nine levels of Hell and Dante's Inferno. It was my
Speaker 1: theory on having in Hell is that there that there
Speaker 1: are different dimensions?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is, that's what they are. That's how I
Speaker 2: kind of not to make religious people angry, but like
Speaker 2: that's how I see it too, as like Heaven is
Speaker 2: just another plane of existence in Hell's zone. Yeah. So
Speaker 2: my friend Brad, he has his own theories about stuff, but.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: He talks about Hell like people refer to it as
Speaker 2: being hot, he said, and if you ever touched something
Speaker 2: so cold that it feels hot. So we talk about
Speaker 2: these lower frequency beings. We're refer to them as demons
Speaker 2: and Hell and everything from there. But it's so dark
Speaker 2: and dingy and cold that it feels hot because when
Speaker 2: you touch something that's so like, finger gets burnt, ice burned,
Speaker 2: Like Yeah, he said, maybe that's the interpretation and we're
Speaker 2: just thinking as its being hot but it's so cold
Speaker 2: and stuff. Because of that, I was like, I mean,
Speaker 2: that's a different theory, but it's plausible. At this point,
Speaker 2: everything's plausible.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're right. I'm with you on that way.
Speaker 1: It is plausible. And that's what the love Deell again,
Speaker 1: that's why I love doing this stuff because you know, chrisms,
Speaker 1: paranormal is a favorite topic of mine, always has been.
Speaker 1: I mean said football. I'm a diehard football fan too, so.
Speaker 2: I've been watching free agency only oh.
Speaker 1: God, I know. So I'm a diehard Steeler fan, so
Speaker 1: I need for the news. I'm winked for the news.
Speaker 1: I'm wink for the news for the news.
Speaker 2: We just signed Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1: So there's that what y'all did?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Uh, I mean get Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: I don't know at this point, they should have just
Speaker 2: kept Justin Fields.
Speaker 1: That That's what I just wanted to do. I don't
Speaker 1: want to get I did not want to catch Justin Fields.
Speaker 1: I was hoping we would have kept him. Highly impressed
Speaker 1: with the young man. I wasn't excited when we got
Speaker 1: him last year. But Washington play. We went three and
Speaker 1: one with him right off the back of the season,
Speaker 1: so I had no problems with him. Great. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: looked great to me. I was I was all down.
Speaker 1: I was on the field. Shit. I was thinking, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna sign to another two three years.
Speaker 2: I think he could have done great had they give
Speaker 2: him the time. Like he came from Chicago, which the
Speaker 2: Bears have notoriously had shit quarterbacks for how many years?
Speaker 1: Got a problem there.
Speaker 2: So I thought he would do better in a different environment,
Speaker 2: he might do better. But now he went to the Jets,
Speaker 2: so I'm like, he's right back to the Just the
Speaker 2: Jets and the Bears are about in the same class
Speaker 2: of having bad quarterback.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I got a Bears quarterback last year and
Speaker 1: I'm about to get the Jets quarterback year. About funny
Speaker 1: how that your show went from you know, we went
Speaker 1: all over the place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very ADHD show. Here. We went from Cryptis to football,
Speaker 2: and everyone's like, shut up, I don't want to hear
Speaker 2: about football, but we probably can't wrap this one up.
Speaker 2: It is late for me and I've got work in
Speaker 2: the morning, so we.
Speaker 1: Don't feel bad the same thing. Like I said, I'm
Speaker 1: a single dad. I work, so that's why sometimes it's
Speaker 1: hard for me to get scheduled down right. I would
Speaker 1: love whenever you want to talk about it, Levey, have
Speaker 1: you come on the show.
Speaker 2: I will give you the opportunity to be one of
Speaker 2: the first ones when I start doing more interviews again,
Speaker 2: because I don't mean opportunities and like I'm a big,
Speaker 2: big time, big shot or whatever, so don't take it away.
Speaker 2: But like I've been asked by like five or six
Speaker 2: different people and I've told them no, and I feel
Speaker 2: bad about it, but I'll be one of the first
Speaker 2: ones to reach out to you when I'm ready.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, like I didn't I do so. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry it took so long to come on. I
Speaker 1: really am. Like I said, I got sick. I got sick.
Speaker 1: I mean it.
Speaker 2: It happened to me. I was sick for about two weeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. I saw that. I saw that you
Speaker 1: were sick, Like, oh man, that poor guy. I know
Speaker 1: he's struggling. And then we're getting ready for mine. I
Speaker 1: was so boom. I was like, oh dude, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna believe this. Yeah, Tony would put it. We got
Speaker 1: hit with some spiritual warfare.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't ever get sick. And it's funny because
Speaker 2: I was talking to my buddy and I think I
Speaker 2: cursed myself because I said I haven't had the flu
Speaker 2: since I was a kid. And then Bam got tested
Speaker 2: and had influenza A. I was like, great, and then
Speaker 2: my daughter had it, and then everyone else and like
Speaker 2: we just my oldest when we got COVID three and
Speaker 2: a half years ago, she's the only one that didn't
Speaker 2: get it. We all got the flu. She's the only
Speaker 2: one that didn't get I was like, even, she must
Speaker 2: have the greatest freaking but she seems to be She's
Speaker 2: always snotty and sniffy and always seems like she has
Speaker 2: a head cold, but she never gets sick.
Speaker 1: Like that.
Speaker 2: We get bombarded by crap and I hardly rarely. I
Speaker 2: might get a head cold here and there, but I'm
Speaker 2: usually never getting sick. And when I got COVID, it
Speaker 2: kicked my ass, and this flu kicked my ass.
Speaker 1: Well, I got I got like you with the flu.
Speaker 1: Didn't catch a flu, just happened to catch a little
Speaker 1: stomach bug. But we got here with an ice storm
Speaker 1: and I was supposed to go film on that Saturday
Speaker 1: before you and me were going to do our interview,
Speaker 1: and I got ahold of them Friday night and I said,
Speaker 1: you don't want me there at all. I feel I
Speaker 1: can't put any energy into what I'm doing. I'm so
Speaker 1: I mean congested. It was at my chest and I'm
Speaker 1: still fighting a little bit of it. I'm not completely
Speaker 1: out of it yet.
Speaker 2: I still got the cough yep. So I keep muting
Speaker 2: myself just.
Speaker 1: Because I apologize for I do apologize. I wasn't blown
Speaker 1: you off. I wasn't blown you off at all. That
Speaker 1: wants you to take that at all.
Speaker 2: No, I completely get it. I give you the benefit
Speaker 2: of the doubt. Now, if someone reaches out and they
Speaker 2: have to reschedule, I'll give them the one. But if
Speaker 2: it happens more than once, I'm just like, all right, well,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to keep rescheduling. But since you do
Speaker 2: a podcast and you know how it is with people,
Speaker 2: so I was like, I'll give you the benefit of
Speaker 2: the doubt for that one and I'll work around with it.
Speaker 2: Because I had to reschedule a lot of episodes. I
Speaker 2: actually just had to reschedule an interview that I had
Speaker 2: the other day, but that was because of other things.
Speaker 2: It wasn't sickness.
Speaker 1: But oh yeah, no, so they'll let's make your audience laugh.
Speaker 1: I was getting ready to interview a lady about fairies
Speaker 1: for polk, right m hm. And we were talking prior
Speaker 1: to you, getting ready to record everything else set up,
Speaker 1: getting ready to hit that record, but in my stomach
Speaker 1: made that gurgling sound you know, you know that, you know,
Speaker 1: the grilling sounding.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, maybe, okay, all right, all right,
Speaker 1: hang I say it made it again? That feels oh.
Speaker 1: I said, hey, I'm gonna have to call you back.
Speaker 1: I do appolylish is that's okay? And fifteen minutes later
Speaker 1: takes I said, hey, look I just got sick. There's
Speaker 1: no way I can do this at all. So that
Speaker 1: was probably my most embarrassing podcast moment at all, getting
Speaker 1: ready to get record and had run.
Speaker 2: I can't think of anything embarrassing that's happened, but there's
Speaker 2: been a few times where things didn't hand out. There
Speaker 2: is an episode I actually have to get back with
Speaker 2: the guests because it's never been released because halfway through
Speaker 2: the internet connection lost. I don't know what happened, Like
Speaker 2: we just we were actually talking about some demonic stuff.
Speaker 2: So I thought it was strange. My internet went out.
Speaker 2: That seems to be a weird thing that happens. But
Speaker 2: so we were supposed to reschedule. He's never reached back
Speaker 2: out to me, so I should probably reach out to
Speaker 2: him out getting things. Just redo the whole episode, not
Speaker 2: try and pick it up from when we left off,
Speaker 2: but like, just redo the whole thing. But I don't know.
Speaker 2: There's certain topics that I've recorded with people and the
Speaker 2: audio gets choppy, like you mentioned earlier, like some of
Speaker 2: the things that you talked about with people, and it
Speaker 2: doesn't the audio ends up getting screwed up. I've never
Speaker 2: had the audio completely screwed up, but I've had to
Speaker 2: never recorded the interview at all.
Speaker 1: Well, RAI said it sounded like he was in a
Speaker 1: tin can all the way through, and Aul Justin told
Speaker 1: me was He goes, dude, it was so bad. He goes,
Speaker 1: there's no saving it. It was horrible. There he goes,
Speaker 1: it was such a great interview too, And I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: because it never dropped. And finally he messages me, I go,
Speaker 1: did I do that bad of a job? It's just
Speaker 1: one of those technical difficulty ones just no no, no
Speaker 1: no no. So yeah they got me back on again,
Speaker 1: but yeah it was uh yeah, so watching the camera though,
Speaker 1: that says like, why is it get dark? And it
Speaker 1: hasn't done it since? Has it?
Speaker 2: I only did that one other time when I pointed
Speaker 2: it out to you, but other than that hasn't done it.
Speaker 1: Crazy.
Speaker 2: So now I'm nervous because usually I record on my roadcaster,
Speaker 2: but I also record with Zoom. This one I didn't
Speaker 2: record with zoom because I felt like I didn't really
Speaker 2: need to, And now I'm gonna be real shitty if
Speaker 2: it doesn't record. This is the only one I've never
Speaker 2: made a double copy, so this will be the one.
Speaker 2: This will be the one that screws up on me.
Speaker 1: Oh I hope not.
Speaker 2: Well, Matt, it's been a pleasure before. We'd go. Let
Speaker 2: everyone know where they can find your podcast.
Speaker 1: Thanks, Brendan. Uh yeah, drunkncripmas dot com is a website.
Speaker 1: We're on Facebook, Instagram X. We're more active on Facebook.
Speaker 1: I do have Tommy Hill else produce my show. So
Speaker 1: Tommy's really good checking emails all the time. He monstras
Speaker 1: Facebook to a point. I pretty much see the Facebook stuff,
Speaker 1: Tommy send us a lot of force as well. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where we're at. All your streaming platforms, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're there, YouTube, Spotify, Apple, all of them, you know.
Speaker 2: So anywhere you listen to Tenfoil Tells you can find drunkencryptis.
Speaker 1: I listened to you on Spotify.
Speaker 2: Well, Matt again, it's been a pleasure talking to you,
Speaker 2: but we're gonna roll on out. So thanks to Matt
Speaker 2: and thanks for listening. If you would like to be
Speaker 2: a guest on Tenfoil Tels, remember to send an email
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