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Speaker 1: Broadcasting from Studio A Here at Proven Winners, Color Choice Shrubs.

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It's time for the Gardening Simplified Show with Stacy Hervella

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me Rick weisst and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Well, Stacy.

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Sometimes I feel like a farmer, you know, when you're

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out there working in your landscape. It's like you're working

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your piece of land, your own, very own piece of land,

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and I don't know, just stand out there, be outstanding

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in the field like a farmer. And falls a great

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time of the year to be working the land. From

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a design perspective, plant materials have three major functions in

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the landscape, esthetic, structural, and utilitarian, and when we work

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the land, we're taking advantage of those benefits for our property.

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There's many ways where it just feels when I'm out

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there like I'm working the land. I like that feeling.

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Speaker 2: It is a good feeling. I like feeling like I'm

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taking care of the land. But do you realize that

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you said you just said something controversial?

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Speaker 1: Did I really? Well?

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Speaker 2: You did? You said plant material A lot of people

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take issue with the term. No, you know, no problem

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with it. I get it right, but a lot of

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people and I was surprised to hear this, but a

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lot of people take offense to the term plant material Wow.

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And you know, in the context of being stewards of

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the land, it's like that kind of treats it like, well,

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you know, you're undergoing a bathroom renovation, so that's like

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your bathroom renovation materials your plant The plants that you

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plant in the yard are not just materials. They are

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you know, living things. I don't know, I don't have

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a strong opinion about it, but it did. It did

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surprise me that you get.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot like it's not dirt, it's soil.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that I feel strongly about.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, exactly. See one minute in and I've already.

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Speaker 2: Learned something hot takes right off the bat.

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Speaker 1: But it's true. And when we work the land, we

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can work smarter, not harder. I think about weed control,

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for example, if only people would listen to me and

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not have that scorched earth policy in spring spraying weeds here,

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there and everywhere. There are things you can do. For example,

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the bigger the weeds get, the more difficult they are

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to control. So the most effective way to deal with

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weeds is to get them before they're established, or at

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a stage when you can lightly disturb them in the

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soil and they'll die. So I think that that's a

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great approach. Same thing with fall, taking care of weeds

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and identifying weeds winter annuals so they're not a problem

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in spring, even perennial weeds who are translocating into the

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root system for fall. Just like the trees, you do

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some selective spraying in the fall, you're able to better

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control weeds. So there's many ways in the landscape stacy

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where we can work smarter, not harder.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I think that we can sit here

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and give a lot of tips on how you and

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I have discovered different ways to work smarter, not harder.

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But one of the things that's just so great about

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gardening is that everyone discovers what those different things are

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for their unique property, for their unique location, and for

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their own unique style of working. You know, we all

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find our little shortcuts and tips and tricks, and sometimes

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those are the result of what we thought was a

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mistake and we learned something from them and said, oh,

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actually that works out pretty great. I'm going to do

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that from now on. So it's not like these aren't

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necessarily set in stone things. We're going to share some

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tips and ideas that you and I have developed over

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the years. In fact, plants on Trial is going to

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be a work smarter, not harder speed round. But yeah,

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it's it's each of us discover those things. So if

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you have a work smarter not harder tip, you know,

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leave it as a comment for us on YouTube, or

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write to us at Gardening Simplified on air dot com.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and fall is the perfect time the year to

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work smarter not harder. I just mentioned the weed control

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but having false strategies. Fall is a time of transformation,

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so fall cleanup is often viewed as a chore raking leaves,

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cutting back plants, tidying ever every corner. But you don't

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need to do that.

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Speaker 2: Eck no, I certainly do not. I would prefer I

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didn't exact, because what are you gonna look at all winter?

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What are the birds going to do? You know? I

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would rather have the garden look a mess. Well, it

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doesn't look a mess to me, but I'm sure to

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most people are like, what in the world is this

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person doing? And have that be untidy and let the

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birds scramble through there and have something to look at. Otherwise,

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what am I looking at? Just bear soil and you know, yeah,

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mush snow.

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Speaker 1: It's like trees shedding leaves. Why not take advantage of

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that bony that the trees are giving us. I shred leaves,

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use them in my landscape as mulch. And really doing

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some reading the other day the International Society of Arborists,

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and they had a really interesting article on the nitrogen

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content in leaves. And I'm thinking, if I use these leaves,

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I'm working smarter, not harder. And then I took it

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to the next level, Stacy, So you know that I've

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got this machine where I grind up the leaves and I,

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you know, like maple leaves, and I use them in

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my landscape. I'm working the land. But I've really gotten

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into honey locust leaves. Oh yeah, like a sunburst honey

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locust or wherever you see them everywhere, And as they

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shed the leaves, they're already pre ground up, so tiny,

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they're so tiny. And within this article, this Arborist article,

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I found that honey locust was rated near the top

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as far as nitrogen content is concerned.

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Speaker 2: That's not surprising. It's in the bean family and we

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all know that, you know, beans and soybeans and so

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forth fix nitrogen in the soil, and when they do that,

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that foliage actually takes that nitrogen, so it is naturally

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higher in nitrogen because of the fabaesi or bean family's

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ability to fix nitrogen from the soil. So it's win

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when although we all know that it's a beggars can't

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be chooser situation for you with leaves, you just take

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whatever you can get off the street. But how are

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you ensuring you get honeylocust?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Because I identify the trees.

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Speaker 2: Well, you have one under You're driving around and you're like,

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that person has a honeylocust. I'm like scoping them out

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for their leaf.

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Speaker 1: There's a park. There's a park near my house and

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they have pretty honey locust trees there. And when the

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leaves fall off, I just take leaf bags and pick

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them up and then I use them in my landscape.

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Speaker 2: Do you wear an orange vest so people think you're

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a park personnell while they're doing this.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, folks, I'm a trained professional. Nothing to see.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're doing them a favor. It's just you know.

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Speaker 1: But still I think that it works out really really well,

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and then I feel like a farmer, like I'm working

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the land, like I'm taking the natural bounty from the land.

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Here's a dad joke for you. What's a farmer's favorite

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rock song?

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Speaker 2: Maggie's Farm by Bob Dylan. Good.

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Speaker 1: Try living in the USDA. Bruce Springsteen, Right, that's really good.

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Speaker 2: Born in the USDA, Born in the us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. Living in the USDA would be John

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Cougar Mellencamp. You're right. Yeah, born in the USDA would

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be Bruce Springsteen. And you improved my joke. As bad

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as it is, I grew a crop of beans this

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year organically they died of natural causes. That's another bad one. Okay,

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I'll move on. By the way, I wanted to mention

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something here too, working the land. Have some friends who

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live in Nebraska and in the Plain States, and they

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really deal with a lot of wind. But you can

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take advantage of the wind in your landscape where maybe

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you determine where the prevailing winds are coming from and

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grow some hedging or some plants that help block the

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wind in winter, or maybe it's really hot around your

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house in summer and you want to create a tunnel

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effect where you feed the wind in a nice breeze.

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All of these things are things that you can look

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at when you work the land. And by the way, again,

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living on the shores of Lake Michigan, I'm very familiar

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with a website windfinder dot com. That's a fun website

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to go to, and if you go to windfinder dot com,

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you're able to see where, what direction the wind predominantly

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comes from in your area, at what month of the year.

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For example, where I live on the lake shore, in November,

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fifty six percent of the time, winds are at eight

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to twenty five miles per hour. Wow, that's cooking.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot. Yeah. Well, you know, speaking of wind,

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I think another really important consideration that people should bear

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in mind is for snow. If you live in a

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groat climate, I can't tell you how many times you'll

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be driving down the country road and you're driving along

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it's a snowy day and la la la lah lah,

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and then all of a sudden there's a house with

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no plantings and the snow just drifts there.

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Speaker 1: You go.

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Speaker 2: So, if you are the person who's like, gosh, wire

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car is always getting it stuck in front of my house,

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it would be a good time to consider planting a

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wind break because that will make a world of difference exactly.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I mentioned the windfinder website and living

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on the lake shore, people are always looking to you know,

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kite surf and that, and so they're interested in that.

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Let me give you a limb a rick today, as

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we work the land like farmers, it's kind of a

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work in the land mentality. I have a new mentality

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to improve my landscape's functionality. Need solutions that are cheap,

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not a price tag that steep First and foremost. I

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practice frugality doesn't have to be totally grand. I also

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don't want something that's bland at efficient is my domain name.

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Get it Done is my claim to fame. Just a

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plant lover, work in the land in any weather. I'm

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not in my hovel in self pity. You won't see

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me grovel. I'm American Gothic with a pitchfork. I sling

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mulch and dirt with great torque. I get it done.

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When push comes to shovel, there you go. So we're

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gonna do a speed round.

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Speaker 2: We're doing a speed round for plants on trial.

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and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show, where the

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order of the day is all about working the land,

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which is to say, taking care of your land like

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a good steward or a farmer. And you know, it's

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not just about the plants. The plants are what we

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focus on because most people when they think of gardening,

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they're thinking about plants and tending plants, but really the

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land that you plant those plants in requires tending in

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many different ways as well. And of course it helps

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to think of your whole yard as a place that

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you tend, not just you know, a place where your

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plant plants. So normally, at this time in the show,

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what we do is I'll tell you all about one

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it in your garden. But of course, with such a

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broad topic, I mean, how would I possibly narrow it down.

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It's a perfect plant for today. So instead we're doing

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a work smarter not harder speed round. Yes, and we

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do a couple speed rounds every now and then. And

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basically what that means is we just have different topics

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and we just try I'm usually bad at this, Rick

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is pretty good at this to quickly give you an

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answer on that. But I do have to say I

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think that because we were being very tip based here,

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it might need a little bit It's like a speed

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ish round, okay, so we might need to have like

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a little bit of you know, expository ghetto information around it.

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Speaker 1: Expository.

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Speaker 2: So if this is your first time joining to ask

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for a speed round, we are often speedier in our

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speed round. This is just going to be but the

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information is good, so stick with us. So all right,

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to kick it off, since it is October, what is

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your favorite work smarter not harder fall tip?

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Speaker 1: Oh I could give you hundreds, I'll give you one.

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Move plants around best time of the year to move plants,

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rearrange your garden.

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Speaker 2: Yep, you know, I hear from so many people. Is

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now a good time? Yes? The answer is absolutely yes.

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we recently did a show on it. If it's on

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your mind, you were thinking in summer home, man, these

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things are getting too close. I don't really like that.

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colder zone. If you're in a warmer zone than we

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are here in West Michigan, maybe a couple more weeks

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down the line, if things are really still kicking. My

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fault tip is plant bulbs, and lots of them, because

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you don't need to plant them one at a time. Now.

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alium sure or a frittle area, those you're probably gonna

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plant one at a time. But when we're talking about daffodil's, tulips,

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minor bulbs, all of this kind of stuff, it's best

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what I always do. Dig a big hole, cram it

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full of bulbs, cover it right back up and it

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looks fabulous in the spring.

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Speaker 1: Word of the day swaths, Yes, swatz.

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't require digging one hundred different holes. You

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dig like five holes and put twenty five bulbs in them.

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So that's working smarter, not harder, and you'll be real

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grateful you did that in the spring. Next up, work

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smarter not harder. Planting tip.

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Speaker 1: Great follow up to your answer. My planting tip was

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make like a squirrel and plant long lasting deer resistant

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bulbs like fritile areas, aliums, dutch iris, daffodils. Oh all

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deer resistant.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, the squirrels are going bananas right now. Oh

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my gosh. Mine is a general tip, not just specifically

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for fall. But a lot of people don't realize this,

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but as long as you are not using a dehandled shovel,

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you're using a straight handled shovel, turn that thing the

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other way around and use that to gauge the depth

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and width of your whole. Compare it to the plant

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that you have out of the hole. Rather than lifting

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a thing up, putting it in, lift it up, put

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it in, move it around. Use that to gauge the

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depth in the midth of your hole. So much easier.

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You just use your hand. It doesn't have to be exact,

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but it's still a much faster weighted plant properly. I

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like it all right. Next up pruning tip.

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Speaker 1: Weight on both roses and ornamental grasses. They're beautiful. My

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roses don't shut down until well after Thanksgiving Day. Don't

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be out there pruning them. Wait.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point, and especially if you live

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in a warmer climate, you definitely don't want to prune

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until they're really going to be going for a lot longer.

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And yeah, I mean, just wait until spring. And if

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you wait until spring on roses, then they're telling you

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exactly where to prune them because you're going to see

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that new growth coming out, and then it's very easy

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to figure out where you should actually make that cut.

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And of course, for ornamental grasses, why do you want

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to look at a pile of stubble all winter when

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you could be looking at some really lovely ornamental grasses.

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nests and for insulating birdhouses so they can make it

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through winter better.

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Speaker 1: Did you say it gives birds material?

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Speaker 2: I did say material?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, hot take.

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Speaker 2: Does a plant become plant material when it's dormant, like

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like an ornamental grass? Because this is what you're talking

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about the weeds.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Well, like I said, I don't personally have a trouble

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with the plant material thing, but I know some people do.

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My pruning, too, is a little bit more direct, and

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is one of the first things that I learned in

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horticulture school, and that is when you have your hand pruners,

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they have what I guess I would call a bumpy

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side where you know, the little screw is and the

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little you know, gear thingy is, and they have a

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flat side. So when you are pruning, you should always

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face the flat side toward the plant. That helps you

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get as close as possible to where you're actually making

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that pruning cut. So there is kind of you know,

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and sometimes it's not possible you're you know, all in

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there and contorted and twistering yourself around in a plant.

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But if possible, when you pick up those pruners, face

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the flat side into the plant and the other side out.

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Speaker 1: That's really sharp cutting edge, uh cutting hedge? Okay, move on?

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Speaker 2: What is yours? Worksmurder not harder watering tip.

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Speaker 1: Mulch evergreens at the base so they don't go into

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winter dry and use anti desk on broad leaf.

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Speaker 2: Evergreens, especially if they were newly planted this year. You know,

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mulch is just one of those things I say, keep

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things mulched y around, but especially for winter. It will

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look better, your plants will be happier. I know some

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people don't love the look of mulch, but your plants

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will be so much happier that it is more than

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worth it. I thought about all of this in a

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much more practical and less autumnal sense. But my watering

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tip is to get a shut off valve. It amazes

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me how many people don't have a simple, you know,

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ball shut off valve on their hose, and then what happens.

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they're kinking the hose and trying to you know, prevent

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it from going all over the place. Now, most watering

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wands do come with a shut off valve, not all

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of them. It's kind of built in. In many cases. I

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would actually prefer it to be separate, because then you

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don't lose the whole thing if your shut off valve

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goes bad.

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Speaker 1: And preferably one that doesn't leak. Well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they all get to leaking sooner or later. I'm

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in the market for a new one come this spring,

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because ours has definitely given up the ghost here in October.

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But it's such I mean, they're like a dollar at

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the hardware store, and it will change your life. It

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is just so much easier, it's more efficient to use water.

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it down so that ball valve is just kind of

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sort of cracked, and use that to dribble on to

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new plants. You know, leave that running for a little

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while to make sure you're thoroughly saturating newly planted trees

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and shrubs. It's just a great thing to have around.

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Speaker 1: I just wet my plants.

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Speaker 2: Yes you will if you have a shut off valve.

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What is your work? Smarter not harder?

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Speaker 1: Fertilizing tip most important time of the year to feed

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lawns because they're focused on root growth. And I feed

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trees in fall, just as the leaves are falling off.

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I feed trees because the soil is still warm. Tree

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is gonna benefit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know you often benefit from rains, autumn

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rains which will help to weather that fertilizer make it

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available to the tree. Or other plants and then they'll

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actually be able to make use of it. Mine is

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to keep it to the outside ring when you are

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fertilizing anything. So what's also known as the drip line.

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You know, so often I think that people go out

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there and they just sprinkle it all close to the plant.

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And especially when we were talking about trees and shrubs

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and even perennials, the closer you get into the center

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of that plant, the fewer root tips there are going

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to be. And it's the root tips that are the

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most responsible for absorbing those nutrients and translocating it into

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the plant for it to use. So you want to

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concentrate your effort just in a ring sort of around

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the outer edge of your plants, which actually makes it

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even easier than trying to get in there, and you know,

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sprinkle it up in the middle.

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Speaker 1: I love that you're in for a root to awaken it.

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Speaker 2: Are we Now? We talked a little bit about weeds

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in segment one, But what is your work? Smarter not

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harder weeding tip? Yes, that's the same one you said earlier.

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Speaker 1: Fall is time to you know, you're weeding by example,

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when you're identifying both annual and perennial weeds in fall

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and getting them in fall as opposed to spring.

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Speaker 2: Well, I kind of have two. Okay, So my number one,

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and I know this is not going to be a

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tip for everybody, but if you watch my summer garden tour,

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it is one that I certainly give freely, and that

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is grow a lot of self sowing annuals and plants,

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and they will outcompete your weeds and then all of

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your weeds become beautiful and useful plants instead of you know,

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junkie plants that are just going to spread more like

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you know, yellow nutsede or something. So I have kind

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of gotten my garden to a place where my self

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sowers pretty effectively, I mean not all, I certainly am

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not going to pretend all, but pretty effectively out compete

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smart other weeds, either because of shade or you know,

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just space. My other one is, you know, goes back

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to what you said, Rick, and this is a great

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winter project for you know when to snap and no

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when to pull. There are weeds that you you don't

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need to pull. Just snip those flowers off, snip the

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you know, or with with printers or whatever, and no

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which ones you have to pull. Perennial weeds you have

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to pull, but there are annual weeds where if you

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simply prevent them from going to seed, you will greatly

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reduce the number of that weed that you will have,

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And then you don't necessarily have to go and disturb

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the soil and you know, spend hours down there in

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the soil pulling everything out. So it's kind of a

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lazy man's way. You do obviously have to be able

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to tolerate some weeds, but also I think it's also

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just interesting to, you know, learn more about weeds. So

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that is all we have for our speed around. I

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think we did pretty pretty speedy all things considered.

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Speaker 1: I'm bad.

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Speaker 2: I knew I would be the ones to talk more,

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but that's just how it is.

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Speaker 1: You know, when it comes to weeds you've got pull.

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Speaker 2: We're going to take a little break, but when we

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come back, we're going to be opening up the garden

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Greetings gardening friends, and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show,

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where it is our pleasure to help you with your

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gardening questions, quandaries and conundrums. And you know, in addition

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to helping you with all of that stuff, we also

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welcome your gardening celebrations and triumphs. In fact, I just

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had a message from someone the other day who said,

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I hope I can share some of my garden with

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you next year because she just had done a bunch

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of work for based on what we had recommended. And

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last week I got a mysterious package in the mail

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addressed to the Gardening Simplified staff, and I took it

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over to Adriana and we were like, what is this,

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Because you know, Rick doesn't actually work with us every day,

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only when we're in studio a here recording the show,

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and we already opened it. But I brought it in

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so you can see what this lovely listener Cheryl uh

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sent for us. Wow, all right, so you're ready.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like, let's make a deal. Let's behind yours.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is your only option.

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Speaker 1: Is it a Macromain lawn chair? No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, those are two things you love.

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Speaker 1: But wind chimes.

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Speaker 2: It is not wind chimes. Not a good time to

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talk to about wind chimes, because I was awake all

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night from someone's wind chimes last night. Dang, Dane Dan anyway,

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So go ahead, and we had to unwrap the box.

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But you know now you can.

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Speaker 1: Open it all. Oh my, yes, fantastic.

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Speaker 2: You got to hold them mops over, I can see.

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Speaker 1: Look at that. I talked about that, I know, yes,

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a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So this is what Cheryl sent in her message

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to us.

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Speaker 1: This is great.

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Speaker 2: Your nine twenty seven show included mention of knitted pumpkins.

471
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In clothes, you will find a trio of crocheted kirky bits.

472
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This one's a gourd, which I love, that one for

473
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each of you. Crocheting is a hobby that relaxes me

474
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and I create gifts for people who hold a special

475
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place in my heart. I hope you'll enjoy my left

476
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handed handiwork filled with autumn vibes. Love watching your show

477
00:24:21,519 --> 00:24:24,839
each week, and I'm learning so much. And she goes

478
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on to say that the straw flowers on this cute

479
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little pumpkin are from her own garden. Wow, so it was.

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Speaker 1: You know, we joke around a lot, but this is

481
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this is special.

482
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Speaker 2: No, it's honestly, it was so delightful. I got choked up,

483
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honestly when I when Adriana, I know, opened up this package.

484
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So thank you so much, Cheryl. These are absolutely beautiful.

485
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I'm a knitter and crochetre, so I know how much

486
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this means. And we just wanted to thank you so

487
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much for.

488
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Speaker 1: Thank you your lovely gift. Thank you very much. That

489
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is fantastic. For others who'd like to send gifts, send

490
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us a box of fudge. Fudge yeah, fudge, know.

491
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Speaker 2: So send your five gallon buckets to But anyway, let's

492
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get to some of our listener questions. And this first

493
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question from Alicia I think is especially timely and useful

494
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for today's theme.

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Speaker 1: Alicia says, love your show, I watch it on YouTube

496
00:25:16,599 --> 00:25:20,880
every week. My question is regarding adding manure based composts

497
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to my gardens. When's the best time to apply how

498
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much sheep, horse, cow? Does it matter? I'm surprised she

499
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doesn't mention chicken.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well maybe she doesn't have access to chicken. And

501
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she also has a second part to her question.

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Speaker 1: Oh also, I have wood chips on top of my

503
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garden beds and there are hundreds of lady bugs where

504
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whenever I move the chips, will it harm them? If

505
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I move the chips and add the compost and then

506
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move the chips back.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So what's your perspective on that manure question?

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Speaker 1: First of all, I wouldn't move the chips. I'd put

509
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the compost right on top.

510
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Speaker 2: Of the chips, you would me, okay.

511
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Speaker 1: Yeah, stir it up and then just refresh the chips

512
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maybe next spring or what. That's what I would do.

513
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I'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying that's what

514
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you have to do. It's what I would do.

515
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Speaker 2: And what do you have a feeling about sheep, horse, cow, chicken, poultry?

516
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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: What is it?

518
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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: All all, yes, I mean.

520
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Speaker 1: It, I guess I just I want to work with

521
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stuff that's composted.

522
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Speaker 2: Yes, of course you want it fully composted, which is

523
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basically another way of saying it doesn't smell like its

524
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original product anymore. It's completely decomposed and made into organic matter.

525
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And I think the general guideline about which animals manure

526
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you are using is whatever you can get. You know,

527
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some of us live in areas that are maybe very

528
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horse heavy, and so the horse maneuver is going to

529
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be what you're gonna have. You If you live in

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a dairy farming area, you're gonna get cow. If you

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live out here in West Michigan, where we are making

532
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tons and tons of poultry, especially turkeys, then it's probably

533
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going to be poultry manure.

534
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Speaker 1: We have egg farms out here and they make pelletized

535
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chicken manure pellets, yeah, that you can use on your lan.

536
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Speaker 2: So usually whatever is going to do whatever, is going

537
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to be the least expensive and the most abundantly available

538
00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:08,839
to you. You know, there probably are various analyzes of

539
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you know, just like Rick was talking about earlier in

540
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the show with the different nitrogen content and leaves. Yes,

541
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but it's not I don't think quite so much based

542
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on the animal as their diet, and that's really going

543
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to vary as well, so by all means, yes, it's

544
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great to do that and make sure it's fully composted.

545
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,519
I personally would not invest the time or the money

546
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in applying manure to my garden in fall for fear

547
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that that because it's very heavy in nitrogen. And that's great,

548
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,000
you want nitrogen for your plants, but I would worry

549
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that with the relatively limited amount of time in the

550
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growing season, that a lot of that nitrogen is just

551
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,160
going to leach out before it gets used by the

552
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plants since it's growing dormant. So I would personally save

553
00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:57,599
that effort for later in the season when it's going

554
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to you know, have a definitely direct benefit for the plant.

555
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Speaker 1: That's what you call entremneurial savvy.

556
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Speaker 2: That's you know, that's just what I would do. And

557
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I would actually move the mulch aside just because I

558
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would rather have the compost down there. But it's okay

559
00:28:13,079 --> 00:28:16,599
if it mixes a bit, because many people use compost

560
00:28:16,599 --> 00:28:19,440
as mulch, and you know, that's perfectly swell if you

561
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have enough. I would not be able to have quite enough.

562
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Speaker 1: Stacy, I consider you an insect expert. I'm curious and

563
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,240
interested how you feel about the lady.

564
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this was an interesting question, and I feel like,

565
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you know, a couple months ago, we talked about how

566
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all worms in North America are essentially invasive species, and

567
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I feel like that kind of breaks a lot of

568
00:28:42,279 --> 00:28:44,880
people's hearts because as gardeners are taught, oh the more

569
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worms that are in your soil, the better it is. Well,

570
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I am going to break people's hearts once again because

571
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the majority of ladybugs that are in our yards in

572
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most of the country are actually invasive. They yeah, they're

573
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asiatic ladybugs. Now whether they are truly harmful to our

574
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native populations of the various ladybugs. And it's not just

575
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like we have one ladybug. I mean, ladybugs are a

576
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big group of insects and there's lots and lots of them.

577
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So it's not really necessarily a situation where the asiatic

578
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ladybugs are directly threatening our native ladybugs and causing problems

579
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for them. But it's also not necessarily like something that

580
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,079
you need to feel like, oh, every single one is

581
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you know, precious and I really need to worry about it.

582
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But also I would say ladybugs are going to maybe

583
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get a little bit in a kerfuffle after you move

584
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up this mulch. But they'll just settle. They'll just settle

585
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,759
right back down, so I would not worry about them

586
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at all. I do have a link that we will

587
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add to the YouTube version about ladybugs as invasive species

588
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and kind of understanding what they mean. People don't necessarily

589
00:29:51,319 --> 00:29:54,720
recommend that you go around just killing ladybugs because they're

590
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apparently quite difficult to tell the asiatic species from our

591
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,599
native species. And again they're not that threatening, but it's

592
00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:03,559
still good to know that they're as cute as they are,

593
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they're not completely innocent, so it goes all right.

594
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Speaker 1: Beth has what's the best way to overwinter a passion flower?

595
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I'd say passionately right. We have had this one on

596
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our deck for many years. Each fall we pull off

597
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what we can from the post, cut the vines back

598
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to three to four foot long. A new issue this

599
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,720
year was that the squirrel felt the support was a

600
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perfect ladder up to the deck and he defoliated most

601
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of the lower part of the plant. How far back

602
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should we be cutting this plant? You know? It brings

603
00:30:38,599 --> 00:30:41,519
up a great point Stacey, that yes, it's the time

604
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of year when people are moving mandavillas and hibiscus and

605
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passion flower inside the bug. These are plants that tend

606
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to get bugs like aphids inside or mites. So I

607
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personally believe cutting them back hard and then keeping them

608
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in a cool room, a cool area, and be careful

609
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with the water. Make sure they're not overwatered. You're gonna

610
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rot the roots. But it's possible to do. An unheated

611
00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:14,920
spare bedroom that has a window is a perfect spot

612
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,519
for Not everybody has that, I understand, right.

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Speaker 2: A lot of times we were just like, oh, if

614
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you have this, yeah, and so I think the question

615
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the answer to best question that was all. I agree

616
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with everything you just said, Rick, But it does depend

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on the passion flower. So there are actually hardy passion flowers.

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We have a native passion flower that is native through

619
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the Midwest. I don't know if it quite comes up

620
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,720
into Michigan, but interest certainly throughout the Midwest it grows native.

621
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And if you have that passion flower, then you can

622
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easily just you know, overwinter it in a protected spot.

623
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I think it's hardy to his own six. Really yeah,

624
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,480
it's pretty great. And so in that case you don't

625
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have to do anything at all. But now the tropical

626
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passion flowers and our native one is just as showy

627
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,279
and just as beautiful. Well maybe not quite, but pretty close.

628
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The tropical ones absolutely need to come indoors, obviously, since

629
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they're tropical and they're not going to survive a cold winter.

630
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And I think that just because the squirrel went ahead

631
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and fully did the lower part of this plant, that

632
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doesn't mean there aren't still buds. So I would continue

633
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,079
to do, you know what you've always been doing, cutting

634
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it back, even if that means that the remaining portions

635
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of the plant don't have foliage on them. I don't

636
00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:27,720
think you're going to see much go on indoors, but

637
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you know, as spring comes along and the days start

638
00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:33,319
to get longer, then that will actually leaf out and

639
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recover and you'll be able to put it right back

640
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outside again. So thank y'all so much for your questions,

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and thanks again to Cheryl for our lovely crocheted pumpkins.

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We appreciate all of you, and we're going to take

643
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a break and when we come back, we'll be continue

644
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our conversation on working the land, so please stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. As we talk

651
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,799
about working smarter, not harder, working the land, and I

652
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,319
love doing the speed round. That's that's so much fun.

653
00:33:20,359 --> 00:33:23,079
We didn't get to composting tips, and of course you

654
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,200
know what mine's going to be. Stacey, use the leaves,

655
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,519
shred the leaves, use the leaves.

656
00:33:28,599 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: Are you going to talk about your shredding contraption. We're

657
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,119
gonna have to bring that back because you know, I

658
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,000
don't it's been like a year since people have heard

659
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about your shredding contraption.

660
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Speaker 1: I'll fire it up and we'll have Adriana put some

661
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video on YouTube.

662
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Speaker 2: All right, good, good, good, because that is that's probably

663
00:33:41,799 --> 00:33:42,960
working smarter not harder.

664
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and I always have. And there's an example

665
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of working smarter not harder, because it used to be

666
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I would put leaves in a trash can, put on

667
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,240
a pair of safety goggles, and then use my weed whacker.

668
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Speaker 2: Oh that's what I thought you were still doing.

669
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Speaker 1: No, No, I've got something that's oh okay, we work

670
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and smarter or not hard.

671
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Speaker 2: Okay, good, I feel a lot better about that. Will

672
00:34:04,839 --> 00:34:08,559
get your video, okay perfect. My composting tip is definitely

673
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along those same lines, and that is you have to

674
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,440
keep a stock of browns. And it's a simple thing

675
00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:15,840
that a lot of us don't think about, especially as

676
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,599
we're heading into winter, where if you want to continue

677
00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:21,039
to compost your food scraps, you don't have any of

678
00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:23,960
that brown you know, to keep that nice proportion of

679
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,199
brown and green. So you're putting the food scraps and

680
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,400
it's just getting slimy and it's not good. If you

681
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,800
don't have the proper proportions of browns or you know,

682
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,119
dry dead material and greens, you just don't get compost.

683
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You get slime. So I recommend that you just stockpile

684
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that stuff, whether it is stuff that you're pulling out

685
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of your garden or leaves that you have relieved your

686
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neighbors of.

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Speaker 1: Very well done.

688
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Speaker 2: You know, keep that stuff stockpiled, and you know, just

689
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add it to the pile. Whenever you have that layer

690
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,400
of food scraps or whatever. Just make sure you have it,

691
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,280
because back in the day they used to say shredded newspaper.

692
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,000
But when is the last time anyone had enough newspaper

693
00:35:05,039 --> 00:35:08,880
to shred? So those days are long gone and we

694
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have to fend for ourselves on the browns.

695
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Speaker 1: Well done lawn care tip. I'm just going to say,

696
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this is the time of year when we slowly start

697
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,800
to lower the deck. In other words, all year long,

698
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,320
you want to raise the deck. Have the deck high

699
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,000
so the plant can photosynthesize, so it shades the crown

700
00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:28,920
of the plant, so it helps the grass compete with

701
00:35:29,039 --> 00:35:32,280
weeds naturally. But as we get into winter, we want

702
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,199
to lower that deck. That way we reduce the incidents

703
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,559
of snow mold vul problems in.

704
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Speaker 2: That Yeah, that snow mold is nasty and I have

705
00:35:41,039 --> 00:35:43,840
seen it plenty when I had a lawn. And my

706
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,760
lawn care tip is to get an electric mower if

707
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,960
you can, if you have a smaller yard, you know,

708
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:53,280
I think it can do most residential yards just fine.

709
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,960
And it's just so much more pleasant to mow the lawn.

710
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,400
You're not out there looking like a maniac trying to

711
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,599
yank that cord, and it's quiet and it's just it's

712
00:36:04,679 --> 00:36:07,599
win win all around. So if you're in the market

713
00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:10,320
for a new lawnmower, make it electric. Unless you have

714
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,559
multiple acres to mow, you will be glad you did.

715
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Speaker 1: I love it. So when you're working the land a

716
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,119
pointer here, pick your trees carefully. Remember a tree is

717
00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:24,920
an investment and it grows slowly over time, so make

718
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,719
sure to pick the right tree right off the start,

719
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,840
in the right location, and then maintain your trees. Trees

720
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,119
are one of the most impactful elements that you add

721
00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:39,199
to your landscape. But if you ignore the tree and

722
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,840
you don't do a necessary pruning over time, but wait

723
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,719
until it becomes a problem, don't do that. So that's

724
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,199
a recommendation that I have and one often overlooked key

725
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,639
to a well functioning landscape is planning for storage and

726
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,679
utility areas right from the s for what for story,

727
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:07,239
your shed, your electric blowers and trimmers and everything else,

728
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,239
your rakes and your shovels. I just think that that's

729
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,119
important so that your outdoor space stays organized, clutter free,

730
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:16,559
and efficient.

731
00:37:16,639 --> 00:37:18,599
Speaker 2: Hey did you ever get around to organizing that shed?

732
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 1: Not yet?

733
00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 2: I think that was your New Year's resolution for twenty

734
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,360
twenty five. But don't worry, it's not over yet. You

735
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:26,639
still got a couple more weeks.

736
00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:30,039
Speaker 1: I'll be out there in the middle of winter doing it,

737
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,119
you know. I remember working in the garden center, we

738
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:39,400
often would hire speaking of feeling like a farmer when

739
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:45,320
I'm working out there, we would often hire individuals from

740
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:50,639
rural areas, and they all had the same type of dynamic,

741
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,840
and that is they could fix anything. They could fix anything,

742
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,559
And I love that because that's essentially what you do

743
00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:01,159
when you work on a learn how to, you know,

744
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,039
fix things.

745
00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:05,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I love going to car shows and

746
00:38:05,199 --> 00:38:07,440
I love going to see like the old nineteen twenties cars.

747
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,000
And I remember one of the first car shows I

748
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:11,679
was at. I was remarking on how simple the engine was,

749
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,239
and the guy who owned that car told me that

750
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,880
they specifically made them like tractor engines because all of

751
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,639
the farmers could fix tractors on site, and they just figured, well, hey,

752
00:38:21,639 --> 00:38:23,440
I already have this knowledge. I can now fix a

753
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,119
car engine and get it down faster.

754
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: I love that, I really do. Here's another idea, and

755
00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:34,400
that is my personal appealing. A feeling is not my

756
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:40,119
personal appearance. My feeling, and that is to plant native ours. Yeah,

757
00:38:40,199 --> 00:38:43,519
I just see. I know that I preach this all

758
00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:48,039
the time, but I just see the unbelievable benefit of

759
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:54,840
you know, Erronias or Baptisias or Amsonia. You know, the

760
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:59,000
list goes on and on of native plants that have

761
00:38:59,199 --> 00:39:03,719
been bread and cultivated to be better. And so we

762
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,639
work smarter, not harder when we plant native ours. Does

763
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:09,360
that make sense?

764
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,679
Speaker 2: Yeah? And I think you know that this idea of

765
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,239
better you know, one of the really important things that

766
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,559
I think a lot of There's two important things that

767
00:39:17,679 --> 00:39:20,639
native ours can do. Number one is be disease resistant.

768
00:39:20,679 --> 00:39:23,400
So right now I have October Skies New England aster

769
00:39:23,679 --> 00:39:27,280
in bloom in my garden. It is glorious, It is beautiful,

770
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,079
and it is powdery mildew resistant.

771
00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

772
00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:32,119
Speaker 2: And if you've ever tried to grow New England asters,

773
00:39:32,679 --> 00:39:35,239
they can be powdery mildew magnets by this time of

774
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:36,960
the year. And so it's just really nice to have

775
00:39:37,039 --> 00:39:41,119
this plant full of fabulous blue purple flowers covered in

776
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,159
all sorts of native bees and not covered in powdery mildew.

777
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,480
I'm like my zinias, Yeah, still will grow them, but man,

778
00:39:48,519 --> 00:39:52,199
are they looking sad. And similarly, another advantage of native

779
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,480
ours can be sized is that if you don't have

780
00:39:54,599 --> 00:39:58,360
room for a bague old version of the native shrub,

781
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,840
which you know, could be ten feet tall ten feet wide,

782
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,199
like in the case of button bush, you know, our

783
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,239
beautiful native button bush cephalanthis not everyone has room for that,

784
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,360
but they may have room for sugar shock, which is

785
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,880
our selection of that, which is about five feet tall

786
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,000
and wide. So then it makes it a lot more

787
00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:17,480
possible for people to have that plant and get those

788
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:18,480
benefits in their yard.

789
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,039
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love this, Adrianna. I I throw something out

790
00:40:23,039 --> 00:40:26,280
there like plant native ours. It's just I lob a

791
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,440
softball and then I know Stacy's gonna say something brilliant.

792
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,039
She's gonna say something brilliant, But you're right, and I

793
00:40:33,159 --> 00:40:35,360
just really believe in working the land.

794
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean there. And the thing too, is

795
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,199
like I totally get it when people want to grow,

796
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,320
you know, true natives. But the simple fact is that,

797
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,920
you know, as we've talked about on the show, they

798
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,519
can be hard to find unless you're going to a

799
00:40:48,519 --> 00:40:50,519
specialty nursery. And by all means, if you have one

800
00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:53,559
of those special nurseries around you go out there support

801
00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:56,440
them in the work that they're doing to preserve native

802
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,320
plants and preserve local genotypes. But a lot of us

803
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,719
don't have that ben So native ours available at garden

804
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:08,119
centers make a good interim measure or alternative to that.

805
00:41:08,519 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely you set it all. Here's one that I'm really

806
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:17,039
big on for working smarter, not harder, working the land,

807
00:41:17,159 --> 00:41:24,559
and that is creating water basins for your plants. Harvesting

808
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,079
rain water. Now, not everybody wants to mess with a

809
00:41:28,159 --> 00:41:31,800
rain barrel, and people have mosquito issues and you know,

810
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,480
all of that type of thing. So I understand that

811
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:38,920
if you do fantastic harvesting rainwater makes sense and a

812
00:41:39,039 --> 00:41:42,960
rain barrel makes sense. However, if you don't, you can

813
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:47,440
use a basin technique at the base of your plants

814
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,920
to help hold valuable water and get it into the

815
00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:54,480
root zone of the plant. And I'm always doing that

816
00:41:54,559 --> 00:41:59,000
with soil or mulch, but I'm creating a basin type

817
00:41:59,159 --> 00:42:03,320
area at the base of the plants or in your landscape,

818
00:42:03,679 --> 00:42:07,480
taking a look at the slope and maybe altering the

819
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:11,519
slope somewhat so that water doesn't run away from the plants,

820
00:42:11,519 --> 00:42:14,559
but rather runs towards them in the heat of summer.

821
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,320
You're going to be so happy that you did. And

822
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,679
it's so beneficial to the plants. So when I'm out

823
00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:24,639
there working the land, I'm always thinking slope grade and

824
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,599
I'm thinking basin technique.

825
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,039
Speaker 2: You know, I used to do that when I worked

826
00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:31,360
as a landscaper over on the east side of the state.

827
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:35,199
But I don't think that my very sandy soil will

828
00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:39,639
form many basins. It's really hard to sculpt like a

829
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,679
used to the clay soil over in the area. Do

830
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,199
you just have mandaged your soils?

831
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, or in a clay soil, sometimes we elevate the

832
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,320
plants a little bit higher than the grade. But in

833
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,679
sandy or well drained soils, many times we'll put them

834
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,000
in the ground a little lower than the grade. Then

835
00:42:59,039 --> 00:43:02,199
you're able to create that basin. And yes, I've used

836
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,119
mulch to do it. Shredded mulch interlocks and helps create

837
00:43:06,159 --> 00:43:10,079
a basin, and it just makes watering so much easier

838
00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:12,119
and it's so beneficial to the place.

839
00:43:12,159 --> 00:43:15,079
Speaker 2: Yet no, I agree keeps it from running off to well.

840
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: Thanks Stacy, this has been fun. Thank you Rick, Thank

841
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,280
you Adriana, and thanks most of all to you for

842
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,320
watching us on YouTube, listening to the radio version of

843
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,440
our show, or downloading our podcast. Have a great week.