Speaker 1: Get up, no fight, Yeah times, get off the face.
Speaker 2: Hello, ladies and gentlemen. I welcome to the six hundred
and thirty third episode of the Geekers podcast. I'm the
clown Princess Hairstyles Tress.
Speaker 3: Now I'm joined by Hey, I mean hardcast.
Speaker 4: Up there, extra h on that, Adam Hard.
Speaker 3: I'm so used to Kirkling going before me that I
was just going off guard because he's not here last minute.
Speaker 5: I am the original sin, Taylor.
Speaker 4: Field, the original sin. You know what the sin is? Taylor?
Speaker 2: I mentioned you like our and half of the thumbnail,
and as I went to share the link, I see
no thumbnail on.
Speaker 3: It's not there.
Speaker 5: So the teen's going through his sleep regressions. There's not
happening before.
Speaker 4: Regressions.
Speaker 5: Regression, not aggression. I was just trying to like stab
us and she's trying to go to sleep, so regression regression?
Speaker 4: Yes? Is this planned regression?
Speaker 5: I don't think sleep progressions are planned.
Speaker 4: That's that's that are you saying? I swear he's saying progression.
Speaker 5: I don't hear regression.
Speaker 4: I don't I keep hearing a pee on that.
Speaker 3: I got no p that are Oh I'm finding no
p in the in the word it's pless.
Speaker 4: Okay, well the circle back and play.
Speaker 5: Ears are covered over there.
Speaker 4: You got it is Yeah.
Speaker 2: I kept it just for this because so Emily she
had her last work meeting because she's officially off work
now for two years.
Speaker 4: She was doing that.
Speaker 2: So I just hanging out with the girls and this
was the hairstyle. The video people or people on audiot
have to go, look, this was the hairstyle I got
from the girls to make me look like a pretty girl.
So kind of very It's all right, it's not I'm
not gonna keep it because this is very tickling. But
I thought I'll keep for all live on air at least.
But yeah, a little uneven with with the Britney Spirits pigtails.
Speaker 4: But I think they did a good job on the front,
Like that's pretty equal.
Speaker 2: I think they did a good job there, and like,
look it's perfect in the middle, so like I could
drape it around the microphone if I wanted, you know.
Speaker 4: But yeah, but.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna because you know we're professionals here. I
keep for this podcast. Uh yeah, this is a newscast.
Wasn't planning a game, but we just keep getting stuff
to talk about so we're gonna do them. We're doing
lots of other stuff that we'll talk about a little
bit later and how you can support us and all
that good jazz. Will be a little bit different because
you know, if you listen to the full episode, doesn't
really matter.
Speaker 4: Cutouts, they'll be there. We're going to probably do the
main topic last or whatever. Kirkland gets here, because Kirkle
says he plans and joined the newscast, it's just he
is far far away right now. So because he is
a spidy boy, but he's also a null.
Speaker 2: Boy, I guess I don't know if he wants that title,
but I thought, well, we'll save it for him. So
we got lots of good topics, trailers, I've got some predictions,
we got some bs the BS meter has been piling up.
I got weeks of BS meter stuff there, and uh yeah,
I think that's pretty much it on the feeds.
Speaker 4: Lots of stuff. You guys just did a side quest.
Speaker 2: I very much enjoyed your episode, just kind of diving
into the UBI Soft catalog. I was shocked that Dylan,
you got you in into Pandora there for a little bit.
Speaker 3: I did barely, but I do plan to go back,
so we'll see if I have time for that. I mean,
a couple of new games just came up today that
I'm excited for, so I don't I don't know if
I will, but maybe.
Speaker 2: Maybe over the winter when it's really big and cold,
you'll be like, Nan, I want to go into some
warm greenery.
Speaker 3: The thing is, I'm limited to this Ubisoft subscription, which
I've already canceled, so I just have a few days
left before it's out, so it's limited exposure. But you know,
I'm gonna subscribe again. Yeahs the s Creed's coming out,
so I don't know there'll be time.
Speaker 2: You can jump back in for that, right you know,
So there you go. And then yeah, lots of TV
shows Rings of Powers happening right now, Agatha and Penguin,
which we'll talk about later, starts this week, so three
big shows happening, and then in a couple of weeks
Joker too.
Speaker 4: We got that going on.
Speaker 2: So lots of good stuff and lots of good stuff
happening on Patreon, but we'll talk a little bit more
about that later. Trying to think there's any off the
top plugs. I gotta do this more often this is
completely my bad. I guess I could throw it for everybody.
But as usual, we should promote more. We do have
a podcast network, thanks to every one of you guys
and y'allas and everyone in between that listen to us.
We years ago, I think it's four years now, three
years somewhere. I think it's yeah, I guess it's four
years now. We've had podcast network. They got a show
every day of the week, sometimes bi weekly on a Saturday.
Speaker 4: You can go there. They cover a lot of different stuff.
Speaker 2: Obviously I start on Our Reliance with Chris and Everything's
but there's show for Power Rangers, DC Star Wars Multiverse,
which can we talk about in a second animation lots
of good jazz, but I will promote that. Chris from
Our Alliance and Joe from Walk to the Multiverse, and
on DC Alliance they interviewed as Zack Snyder this weekend.
Speaker 4: It is on our channel.
Speaker 2: The video version of that because it is I think
it's next week is like animated. I don't know if
I think we talked about trailer. He has it like
Twilight of the God show coming out. It's like that anime, Netflix, Viking.
Speaker 4: Show or whatnot.
Speaker 2: So yeah, kudos to Joe for hooking that up and
finding a way to get mister Snyder on the feed.
So yeah, go listen to a good interview. They got
him for about an hour and it's you can go
and just go download the podcast if you want. Two
geek cultip alliance that has all the shows. Some of
them have separate feeds, but if not, the video versions
there and it's doing quite well.
Speaker 4: So congrats to Chris.
Speaker 2: And Joe for that, and yeah, go check out that
and the network. I'm gonna try better to promote that
because I feel like they grew on their own and
it was like send them off to college. There's a
couple of years for lots of talk, but I still
think before the year's end, we're gonna try and a
crossover episode with the with the Gang. We talked about
that in our one of our corely things, so but yeah,
go check that out.
Speaker 4: I think that's.
Speaker 2: Everything for Off the Top. So we're gonna get into
some questions now. I have one question of my own
because I had thought about this. It's not like a
big thinker and it's just for Dylan. What's for Dylan Kirkland.
But I agreed with you. Last week we were talking about,
you know, Extra Life's coming up. We'll start promoting that.
Speaker 4: Really, I gotta find I think it's November second. That's
our twenty four hour stream that we do for BC
Chrones Hospital. We're gonna do a bunch of tears. Tim.
Speaker 2: It's gonna have his beard online. I'm gonna have my
hair on the line. Please get my hair off. It
needs to go.
Speaker 4: But we said, hey, I want to do Monopoly if
I'm I streaking you Rob.
Speaker 2: Hey, it's a long game. I thought, yeah, you know
that's right, deserves its own events. So maybe in the
ten year month we got lots of fun stuff planned
made that'll happen.
Speaker 4: I have not played a game in a long time.
What is the time on chess?
Speaker 2: Because I'm not saying I don't want to see it,
But isn't that a game that can also go on
quite long?
Speaker 3: I mean you can like put a time control on it,
because I guess you could technically do for I don't
want to every player. You know, you have you know,
like twenty minutes overall, and so you have to like
make your tur be possible.
Speaker 4: I want no excuses. Yeah, that's yeah, so.
Speaker 3: I think when me and Kirkland play, like, yeah, we
would do that. We would just put like a maybe
ten minutes each kind of thing. I think it's called
classical format. So we would just do that and that
would be pretty good.
Speaker 2: I read something about it was like all games were
almost the average of ninety minutes and then maybe thirty
minutes after. I'm not sure if Google I could, I
just told.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's different. There's like tournaments for like blitz games
where you literally have like a minute of like play times.
You have to just rifle off moves like you pretty
much instinctively.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: But yeah, like the World Chess Championships, they have long
ass games sometimes that last hours and hours. So it's
it can be get pretty crazy. But I don't I
don't think me and Kirkland are even mentally capable of
such a thing.
Speaker 2: So, especially when it happens, depends what happens in the stream, right,
I still say, three am, bust it opens. That's the
real mind.
Speaker 3: When our brains are tis. I think once during the
day and then in the middle of the night. If
it's just us two awake, we could do that. But yeah, Travis,
I saw that there are two. I don't know if
I told you this, but there are two Monopoly games
on the Ubisoft Plus catalog. I don't know if they're
any good, okay, but you should look into them, because
then will I don't know if those versions would work
nicely for an online play or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm throwing the you know, no pun intended, but
I guess pun intended. I'm throwing the gauntlet down four
July twenty twenty five. That will be we've we're already
planning that. I already talked I'll always talked Taylor about
some things, about some fun things we could do for
our ten year because our tenure will be coming up,
and I think that whole month we're just gonna have
lots of just specials and callbacks. We'll do a whole
episode kind of previewing the year. But I'll spoil that.
I'll throw the gaunlet anybody who wants a piece, pantsy,
I know you're one of the and heone wants a
piece tell me now, I don't know what that is.
I will start doing the homework and find out what
is the best option. But July we'll just do a
full stream whether Taylor's playing or whatnot. I'll get them
to host it and we'll do a full stream of
the Monopoly and we'll, like I said, I'm not doing
a whole only an hour.
Speaker 4: No, I want it down.
Speaker 2: I want to be someone there with two dollars left
being like, oh, could you trade a house?
Speaker 4: You know? So I will start looking at that. So
that's good. U Soft plus has some so okay, I'll
start looking into that. Yeah, es Bobs, Yea.
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about Mickey seventeen a little bit, so
that'll be fun. Adulton to Lara, says Kirkling about to
come in here like a heel with this Pat Mahomes
jersey on No. He said, he's gonna say so Dylan,
I'm not sure. Well, I guess Dylan and Ti are
in the NFL Discord channel. He said that he has
officially picked his team because he doesn't have a team,
so his team in the next after nine he had
he's bought a jersey, so he's gonna reveal what his
team is.
Speaker 4: But he hasn't seen the discord. But we're all very worried.
Speaker 2: It's like the Chiefs, who are like the number one
team just because there'd be a big bandwagon thing, you know,
the team that's won the Super Bowl past two years.
He comes on with the chief I'm just saying, Kirkle's
probably not gonna listen to this because he's gonna be
on the episode later. He's gonna get grilled in that
group chat. If he comes in there with Chiefs Jersey,
it's over.
Speaker 3: It's not a Win's a win if he beats you guys.
He beats you guys, right.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 2: But it's just kind of like, oh, yeah, my favorite
team is the best team in the last two years.
It's like, well, I guess, but like that's like, you know,
you weren't there for the journey.
Speaker 4: You know you were you weren't there, like.
Speaker 2: You know, so we'll see, Hey, you had a smart
running face with what's going on there.
Speaker 5: No nothing. I just I'd love to actually sit down
and properly understand the concepts of football. And I remember
I was talking to Kirklan the other day about like
is this like this, like are we getting into like
the playoff seasons, like the super Bowl coming up whatnot?
And he's like, no, you got to talk to Travis
about that, because Javis knows.
Speaker 2: All another cast after nine when he reveals his jersey
to the Little Rules.
Speaker 4: But one one time we'll do his stream. Well, maybe
we'll do something for the super Bowl.
Speaker 3: But uh, taking an episode line when I'm busy because perfect,
I don't want to learn learn perfect.
Speaker 2: Next after nine deal on full football talk. So uh
and then you know we got some more questions. Now
I will search this.
Speaker 4: So, Mike, you asked Superman, Mike asked who we think
should be John Stuart because James Gun today did post
a picture of John Stewart Superman. Mike, I think the episode.
I thought we did a DCU fan cast, and I
thought we cast John Stewart, right, yes, yeah, yeah, So Mike,
if you.
Speaker 3: Go, we casted a green lantern, maybe even multiple, but
I don't know if that's the same green lantern that
you're talking about.
Speaker 2: I think it was because I thought, I was like,
this is probably the route they're gonna go with a
green lantern.
Speaker 4: So I could be wrong if anything.
Speaker 2: I know it's the most cop out answer, Mike, But
for me it's tough because like they're looking for a
twenty to thirty you know, black African American actor. I
know everybody that Rebel Ridge movies, Like I think his
name is like Aaron Pierre, like, oh, cast him. I
really hope if all these rumors of hal who's supposed
to be the other Green Lantern, whether it's you McGregor,
are all fun a Chris Pine, I hope they just
go like the Superman route and they get just an unknown.
They go, Okay, if you get one Green Lantern that's
a big star, the other one should be just Hey,
here's a guy that we think is a really good actor.
Could be something like David corn Sweat. He's been a
few things that we've seen, like like Max, not Max,
what was a Pearl and stuff, But like I wouldn't
have been able to name him right, So that's like,
I know it's a cop out, but there's no one
that jumps to my mind of oh, that's the guy.
So for me, I think it's just find a good
up and comer that's been in some things, that has
some cred you know. I don't I think you guys
would agree, but if you have any hot takes, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I would, yeah, point to that cast we did.
Whoever I picked, then that was the best pick out there.
Speaker 5: I stand by my pick as well. Whoever that was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think we did so, yeah, Mike, if
you missed it, just and let me know it should be.
Speaker 2: I think it was a Brendan Butter. I think it's
on the tier that you're on. It's you're a Patreon
producer right now, so you got all the tiers, so
it's definitely there.
Speaker 4: Maybe it wasn't.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was a Phase three thing, but it's just
DCU fan cast. And yeah, we did like the Justice
League I think one day probably next you'll do like
a Villains for when we.
Speaker 4: Get closer to Superman. But yeah, so that's on there.
Speaker 2: And then finally for the Patreon questions, which you can
do if you joined Patreon any tier. Uh So this
report came out today. It's who knows. It's an anonymous person,
but some box office analysts said, like, oh Megalopolis, which
is that film coming out without them? Driver and a
couple other people in France for Copla directed with all
his money said it has like the worst seeding or
worst pre sales he's seen in like two decades or
something that. Yet it's predicted to have like a three
to four million opening weekends, so really bad, right, So
someone posts this article I think was s Bubbs.
Speaker 4: Then everyone in the chat it's like, well, I'm not going,
I'm not going, And then uh uh.
Speaker 2: Patroon Clay posted a friend's gift of him as Joey
and then he looks Besimon and no one's in the chair,
so he's still going.
Speaker 4: No matter what.
Speaker 2: I think this is just a ploy to get more
people to go, because he said if he upped his tier,
because there is patron producers here, would we.
Speaker 4: Review said movie?
Speaker 2: And I said, well, we're gonna touple this live on
air because I have to talk to the voice because
technically it wouldn't be a retro because it's not a
movie that you know, usually we've had some years and
we come back to it.
Speaker 3: Like used with bargains, which I like that idea. Yes,
first bar, why not I throw the option out? Yeah,
so we'll do for the money.
Speaker 4: I'm in the camp of if because that's that's the
ticket right there. Pretty much, if you were to become
patron producer, I would go see it.
Speaker 2: I was planning seeing it VOD. I'm not going to
see it on my own time or money. But if
that's what we do for producers, they pick films or
things for us to review, and I would, but I
am here to listen to the council.
Speaker 3: On right because Clay has never been in that tier
and requested a movie, right, so he's never technically got one,
so I've been waiting. Yeah, I guess that. I guess
that is like a loophole in the system that I've
never thought about before, where someone joins that tier and
asks for a movie that is only available in theaters.
I mean, just the thing this movie is. If it's
gonna bomb as hard as it's expected to, it's hitting
vod in like a month, right or less? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well, I think so.
Speaker 3: I guess isn't that like already streaming or like this
week or something that's crazy?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was That was less than three because
the only hang up I have was because the guy
paid for it with those own money. He might have
something of like well I don't want this in streaming
till X, Y and Z right, So because it wasn't
a studio that made this, it was a guy that
gives all money. So that's the only hang up I
could see, Like, hey, even if a bombs, you're keeping
it in.
Speaker 4: Theaters for how long? I say, or we'll just wait
till like the home release.
Speaker 3: So mm hmm, I I mean I'm at the point
with it where I would be definitely down to watch
it on vo D. I would feel bad making plenty
pay for that. I don't know. There's something about me
that feels wrong. Plays one of the longest time supporters
that we have, and it it feels achy to me
to be like, yeah and then we'll do that. I
don't know, there's just something something weird about it.
Speaker 4: But you were gonna But I don't think anybody but
myself was gonna watch it unless someone said, hey, you
should watch this, right, you weren't planning and watching it
even on VOD on theaters.
Speaker 3: But I I think I was intrigued enough to watch
it when it hits streaming.
Speaker 4: Taylor, were you watching this movie at all?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: No, And I don't think kirk One was either. So Clay,
I would have to ask clarify, are you meaning? And
you can retort to this in the next day or
two and then we'll circle back to it. Are you
wanting it to Does it have to be opening weekend
or would it be vo D? Because vo D? I
think you know that that's an onboard. If if it's
the the opening weekend, that's that's where a producer tier
might I might need the credit.
Speaker 3: You know, if it's vo D, you don't have to
pay for it. Well, we'll just do it. I'll say that,
I'll do it. I'll do a solo Rea. No, if
it's opening weekend then okay, yeah, fine, I'll do it
using that loophole off it's technically a Patreon pick if.
Speaker 4: It's vo D.
Speaker 2: I wonder if if he was fine that, I wonder
if we should make that a Patreon movie night. I
feel like because there's gonna be a bunch of people
that are interested on Patreon but or interested in Discord.
But I don't think they're going to see it opening
weekend either. So if we all got together and if
it is supposed to be this trash fire, watch it
as one.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: So, But and Clay, if you don't like that, if
you want traditional review, let us know. We're just we're
just throwing ingredients out there, you know, tell you and
say something.
Speaker 5: I mean, I am leaning towards the opening weekend kind
of route, especially because you know I got the special
code here that Travis chare, which means I can get
two tickets for free. I don't have to pay a cent.
Speaker 4: Oh right, I forgot about that.
Speaker 3: Actually, is that because you're subscribe.
Speaker 5: No, that's through Adam. They did the two free tickets
using code Mega free Adam. Just enter Adam. You get
two free tickets to go see this.
Speaker 3: That changes things. So now it's just a waste life
right there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, that changes things. That that does. Yeah, that's
a new player here.
Speaker 2: Okay, how do you think about that as a strategy though,
where you get the travel right?
Speaker 4: Like like like, don't get me wrong, I'm I'm you know,
we're just starting to make films. But at no point
until we uploisting to YouTube, am I giving away like hey,
buy two tickets to Drenochrome and get the third one free.
It's like, no, we need anything we can get for
these films because we want to make more. So for this,
it's like, hey, they come back to them like hey,
the tracking is really low, it's this this.
Speaker 2: Okay, start giving away tickets for free. I'm not sure
if the idea is just to get the chatter out there,
but I just feel like that's like a a reverse strategy.
Speaker 4: I feel like maybe second week fine, but first weekend
it's like, I don't know, I don't I don't know
if that's a great idea, but they're doing it.
Speaker 3: It's pretty bizarre. Maybe it's like a gambit from the
movie theaters to be like, Okay, well no one's seen
this movie. It's taken up one of our auditoriums and
you get people in and they'll buy popcorn. Money from that,
You're pa the movie ticket doesn't make as any money
because they don't make much money on a movie ticket anyway.
Speaker 2: Especially because I think it has that only one weekend,
but it has one week on an IMAX, So it's
taking some of those big big screens up in like
the States and Bear Canda, So you're probably right. That's
what it is, is like we need to get people
in here to buy popcorn and stuff because this movie
is gonna eat it.
Speaker 3: Is it out next Thursday?
Speaker 5: Is that?
Speaker 3: I thought I someone talking about Monday, like a Monday
showing for.
Speaker 5: It, But maybe I was just there are screening early
screenings for IMAX or something like that, I believe, But
the free tickets do work for IMAX as well.
Speaker 4: That's a great deal. Free teasts for Imax. That's really yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, then you have to see Megalopolis in Imax.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited because I won't get to see it
until maybe the weekend next week because I'm in the
middle of moving right now. But I didn't even know
the substances coming out this Thursday, and I'm looking really
forward to that. And now I live very close to
a theater again, so it's I'm happy, but I'm like
a walk away, so I'm very happy about that.
Speaker 4: But uh, yeah, so.
Speaker 3: Were we talk about it. I'm down. I'm down to
do it. Yeah.
Speaker 5: The only other time that I'm seeing this happened was
for another movie called The Spy Dump Me with Me Lacunas,
and I took advantage of those two free tickets that
I'm offered. So it doesn't happen often, but it does happen, Travis.
Did you know as well? Through the atom map they
have a Landmark extras add your card number now feature
when you check out with your tickets. Oh really, which
is really nice because using the actual browser for lndmark
is trash and if I can go back to using Adam,
I'm there.
Speaker 3: I will say, the website is pretty good these days,
it's gotten better.
Speaker 4: Are those your two seats? Taylor? Six twenty five?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's holding them for another eight seconds. So look book.
Speaker 4: Now there's this one guy to the right over there
by himself.
Speaker 3: That's Francis Ford cop.
Speaker 5: I swear he wasn't there when I clicked in first,
so now he was just waiting for someone to please.
Speaker 4: Don't tell me.
Speaker 2: The two seats are for you and Madison. Don't drink, Madison.
It's two free tickets.
Speaker 3: It's okay, cool, but then you have to get a
sitter and then that costs you money.
Speaker 4: Well, say you, I'll pay you to take this ticket
from me. Clay says, hmm, okay, so he's cooking. Yeah,
let us let's know what you think.
Speaker 2: What's the best option here? Watch Kirkland come and just
shot on this. I've never seen this movie, but yeah,
maybe wouldn't be the Well, and don't buy for the
Thursday yet, Taylor, because it might be better for us
to do the Friday right if we're all reviewing Rings,
so maybe do Rings well?
Speaker 4: We could talk as a unit, see which takes I can't.
Speaker 5: That's so easily because Adam allows me to do that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and I did find out Taylor this is
off cast conversation. But I just accidentally let my subscription
unsubscribed because I paid full.
Speaker 4: Price for my Joker tickets. I'm like, what's the deal
with this?
Speaker 2: But anyways, uh so yeah, maybe Megalopolis review coming in
the future.
Speaker 4: We stay tuned. Yeah, let's start with uh, let's serve
with some trailers. Let's do that.
Speaker 2: We'll go through some easy ones right now because SPO's
brought up, so we're gonna start there.
Speaker 4: Just watch the Mickey seventeen trair. Looks so good. Love
the music choice. The movie looks great. So Dan, and
this is a movie that I think we were supposed
to have seen by now writer or was it coming
on the fall? Maybe I can't remember.
Speaker 3: Mentally, I feel like I should have seen it by now,
that's right, I think. So it was like a twenty
nineteen or something like that, right it.
Speaker 2: Was, but no, remember remember it had a day and
they kicked it to January. We discussed that and we're like,
all bad sign But I'll look while you're talking, but
what do you think about this? Because obviously very anticipated
Bung Joho won three Academy Awards or Parasite.
Speaker 4: Many people consider that one, if not the greatest.
Speaker 2: Movies all time, and stat cast passing coming off The Batman,
you got ruff Loo Tony Kollett, who's always great.
Speaker 4: So did this trailer live to the hyper or you
wondering a little worried it was originally? Oh yeah, I'll
look it up. You don't even know s bubs come on. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Expectations were very I would say non existent in terms
of what I thought this was actually gonna be about.
Of course the director pairing there, but even just like
from the pictures we got, I guess I was expecting
something that was like kind of tonally like snow Piercer.
That was kind of what I was expecting. And this
is definitely not that. I love this trailer. I think
this looks like such a fun movie. First of all,
I love what Pattison is doing with his performance. I
don't even know how to describe it, but I love
whatever he's up to.
Speaker 4: He's busting on some lighthouse type of voice or something
like that.
Speaker 3: The music that s pub the mention, I forget if
it's from Fallout three or four, but that song just
hits for me. Any one of those like classic follow
out songs just puts me in a certain vibe and
that's very different than like the sci fi thing we
got going on here, so that that's a nice mix
up for me. And I just love the concept. I
guess I didn't really like maybe we've talked about the
concept before and I just forgot about it. But the
fact that he's kind of being cloned and then that
leads into all these other antics and just the idea
of like testing the limits of the human body and
like doing tests like it just seems super fun and weird.
And I think the goofiness of her, like this slight
intended cheesiness is like that actually perfect layer that it
is using on Tapa is really really working for me.
So consider me extremely hyped for this one. I think
this looks like a really really good time.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: March twenty nine, twenty twenty four, So we're supposed to
get this a long time ago. There should have been
a review on the feeds months ago, first quarter of
the year, So there you go. Yeah, Taya, what did
you think about this one? Also, we just recently watched
Parasite the past year for a Patreon retrospective and I know,
think you seen Soap Piercer before.
Speaker 4: They don't know here sirs.
Speaker 5: The train. There's a show for that too, isn't there
there is?
Speaker 4: It's just about the now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those only two think North American ones. The rest
are all foreign films. I don't think you would have seen, but.
Speaker 5: I definitely love a good foreign film. I have not
seen it, though hopped at it to the list. I
am quite surprised by this movie. I did not have
a lot of excitement, kind of like going in whenever
we talked about it briefly in the past. But seeing
the trailer and seeing how the story's going unfold, it
has a very light hearted, humorous tone to it, even
though it's a very depressing kind of concept, and I'm
very much all for that, and I'm really looking forward
to actually seeing this now because it's just it seems
like it really is turning it around from what I
was expecting it to be. And Yeah, Robert's just killing
it in this role. He's just I'm Robert.
Speaker 4: His name Rob Robert Pattinson full name.
Speaker 5: I think he's doing a great job. This is just
a kind of a type of character I haven't seen
him act out before, which is really nice. I love
seeing actors be able to really dive into these different
types of roles and really showcase their capabilities as an actor.
It's fantastic. And so yeah, I'm just really excited to
see the two of them kind of fighting each other
and just rooting for our number seventeen against I guess
it was eighteen, is what they were kind of showcasing
in the trailer. It looked like our main characters, Yeah,
make character seventeen. Yeah, but I think the clone was
eighteen because they kept flashing eighteen throughout the trailer a
little bit. But yeah, just the legalities behind you sacrificing
your body towards human advancement, and hey, you die while
we're gonna clone you and bring you back, and you're
just gonna be going through like dying and dying and dying.
And I think that's just a wacky, wild concept. And
what happens, Yeah, when two of your your clones didn't
die and they meet up. It looked like there was
a few scenarios where multiple clones were alive and well
and maybe they were taking advantage of the system. And
like there's a scene where three of the clones were arrested,
So I'm curious to see what happens in this situation
where multiples are alive, and maybe that's why they're trying,
like the mickeys are trying to kill each other because like, oh,
there could only be one of us. Is illegal for
multiples to be alive at the same time or something
like that. So there's a lot of mystery to this
story and I'm really eager to get into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope, I know there will be more because
I hope there's more because that trailer if like, well,
two can't be alive and I'm kind of like, what's
the big deal? You just shoot one and then you
go back to regular program? Right, I'm not sure if
there's something like if you kill one out of order,
does that ruin whatever this experiment or whatever the process is,
because it feels like a very easy problem to fix
when what they've presented in the trailer, and I know
watching Parasite even snow Pierce to extent where it's like, Okay,
there is hopefully more of this, because if there's not,
then I just go, well, then it's gonna be quite hijens.
Speaker 5: Sid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. What you said, Dylan, where you remind
me of snow Piercer, but only in like palette and
the world setting where it is about like the low
low versus the rich rich. You know, the rich are
high on top and they have these high concepts like
the trains and what happens in those trains. This feels
like if you were to tell me, hey, this takes
place in the world of snow Piercer, I'd absolutely believe it.
It looks like it could be adjacent, like especially roughl
it's more comedic, but I mean like just primarily where
it is like I could see it, but then the
second you watch it with audio and music and tone,
not at all.
Speaker 4: It doesn't feel like that all. Snow Pierce is.
Speaker 2: Very serious, very very dry, not in like a comedic draw.
Speaker 4: Wait, just it's it's it's a tough watch.
Speaker 2: It's not a movie that you can just put on
all the time, like yeah, I'm gonna watch snow Piercer.
It's you gotta be in a mood for that where
this could be to me tons of fun and yeah,
I'm with you, guys.
Speaker 4: I absolutely love the trailer.
Speaker 2: I imagine when we do our you know, most anticipate
for me, this is definitely on there for next year.
Speaker 4: I don't know where it.
Speaker 2: Is, but I think I can easily say a top
five and didn't know what to expect, especially after coming
off a Parasite. I do see though, why not be
like business you know, you know, apologist or whatnot. But
I can see why Warner Brothers they hired the Parasite
director and when they got this, they're probably like, this
is not really what we were expecting. And I can
see why they kicked it away from award season and
like into January where movies don't really do good because
I I don't think this will be a big mainstream movie.
And I guarantee you they's probably spent a lot of
money on this movie with trying to get Bond on
there because it's just like, oh, well, the guy just
won them three Oscars and everyone loves Parasite, and I
think that's what they're hoping for. And I'm sure in
the room when he pitched of like, well we get
Robert Pass and play these clones and it's a cat
and mouse game about them trying to hurt each other.
They're like, oh, yeah, that sounds great. But when you
watch this trailer, it feels way more and like I said,
I not there's one film because I can't remember that
I saw, which was a formum which I just put
on Netflix around Parasite time.
Speaker 4: I can't remember what it was. It was the guy
that was in Parasite, the Dad and has to do
with monsters and stuff.
Speaker 2: I can't remember the title of it. But other than that,
I'm not familiar with all his work. This almost felt
like some of the trips we get for your gross
and stuff, like with kinds of Kindness or like, uh god,
what's the last one? We all were like poor things
where it's in a very weird world and very odd
type of humor. It's very just kind of kooky and
not like a regular oh Feta joke, or here's a
straight guy and here's a comedic guy.
Speaker 4: Here's a situation of like meet the Parents. It's just odd.
Speaker 2: People like Mark Ruffalo and Tony Kletter like laughing all
over this trailer. Steven Young, he looks I don't know,
he looks great. There's just a moment where he's explaining
that he has to kill one of them. He's like crying,
like I don't know what his gimmick is in this movie.
But it all looks for me absolutely great. But I
can see why a big studio might have saw this
and went, I don't know what this is gonna be,
and this is movie. I could definitely see a lot
of people going into watch and not like my mom
be like, oh that was it. I didn't like that movie. Like,
I think it's going to be a very reparasite. It
is an odd movie, but I think it has such
an easy gateway of the eat the rich sort of scenario, right,
and you can kind of understand the family to a
point where this it's a very high concept, but it
looks great. All the humor hit for me. I love
what Passing is doing. He's one of the best in
the world right now. Tara says, all tummy see good times. Like,
there's a lot of stuff you gotta see in between
this and Twilight that's miss out because he's done. He's
done a lot of different type of odd characters, even Lighthouse, right, Like,
that's quite an odd.
Speaker 5: Character, quite an odd character.
Speaker 4: Quite an odd character.
Speaker 2: So it's great when he gets to be this type
of weirdo and uh yeah, I'm just very excited to
see what is gonna happen with this movie. Hope it
does well, hopefully because Chanwy thirty first. I'm hoping I
could be back for that around there because this is
I think it gonna be a really good review and
something special.
Speaker 4: But also maybe maybe it got kick because it is
just a bad movie, and maybe I'm gonna be super disappointed,
but I don't think so. I think I'm gonna be
excited for this. So after that, I'll throw a bunch
at you. Dylan.
Speaker 2: So we got your Monster, we got Dexter Original just
a thirte second teaser, but I had to throw it
in there just because I don't know, just I feel
like there's some vibe stuff going on there. What else
was there? There was Salem's Lot and that was it
because Mickey seventeen came out, so oh and sorry, I
had the Woman of the Hour.
Speaker 4: What did you think of these trailers?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Dexter, it's just like nostalge debate, right,
Like there isn't actually really any substance there. Do you
guys feel differently? I'm curious if I'm like, really, this
is how they're marketing.
Speaker 2: This is the best you got that for me, that's
what I was worried.
Speaker 4: That.
Speaker 2: To me, the first thing we get of this is
this dance club music, and it's just very like you said,
it's here's young Batista, here's young LaGuerta. You guys maybe
not get this reference. But I said this to Chris
because he's a big Dexter fan like us, but he's
also fan the DCCW, And that's what it felt like.
It felt like the CW was making Dexter. And that's
why I included here because there's not much on here,
but I just includ it because I saw a teaser
and I went, ah fuck, because I just feel like
they're gonna because it's also gonna be like in the
eighties nineties. I worry they're gonna go for like that
type of Oh look at the nostalgia. Like this just
gave me bad vibes. It gave me that like the
cheap knockoff stuff. And even with thirty seconds it's just
as a first showing of the show or first look
of the show, I thought it was not a good start.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I just want to get a
little sizzle reel of like the new guy being Dexter.
That's what I want to see, but a talking Maybe
this is part of their strategy is to like not
really show them off because they, I think maybe know
that not a lot of people are asking for what
this is. So see how that pays off for them
considering they chose to do the show.
Speaker 2: Could you imagine if the new actor doesn't speak at
all and it's just always his thoughts once miggles Hall's thoughts,
like it's just like people talking to him, and it
won't be but.
Speaker 3: They can't go down that route. I don't know it's possible.
Speaker 2: I agree with you, where like I I want the
like you cast him, like show some confidence, like he
should at least have a line in.
Speaker 4: This trailer, and he didn't. You know, it's a teaser.
Speaker 2: But still it's like, for the first opening, we've seen
nothing of this other than they you know, they remade
the you know, wake it Up in the morning, everything.
Speaker 4: But we still don't heard him speak as Dexter you know,
m I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird. All we saw was a little glint
in the camera that he did their classic stuff yeah.
Uh and then the other ones.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: I think moment of the hour was kind of a
weird one where it seems interesting, like they did a
good job of setting the tone, I guess, but maybe
wanted to see a little bit more. I just felt
like it was one of those trails, like, is this
the only trader that exists for this movie so far.
Speaker 4: As right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I worry it might be the only one
because it's not it gets out in a month thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't know. Maybe they're really trying to
hold back. I mean, it's based on a true story.
I guess, right, Uh, that was this trailer. I watched
all of them back to back, So this is based
on true story this.
Speaker 4: One, Yeah, didn't you tell me about this? Isn't this
one you watch a documentary about? Or was it? It's
Kirkland then because the dating show one mer she goes
on dating show.
Speaker 3: Okay, see that's that's the weird thing with this trailer.
I did not even know that that's what this was
about and totally forgot. I just felt like it was
one of those trailers that was like the best directorial debut.
This is a chilling show. Yeah, it's like, show me
a little bit more here to get me in. But like, honestly,
knowing the concept I'm already in. I'm gonna be interested
to check it out. But yeah, like I feel like
for people who aren't doing a geek news podcast and
talking about all these trailers, they might just miss I mean,
I guess it's Netflix, so it just gets put in
front of your face and then you click on it,
you see Ona Kendrick, and you just watch it anyway.
So I don't know. Maybe maybe it's totally fine because
of the Netflix release. I just feel like, if if
this was like a movie trailer, I don't think it
would be doing a great job. But once again, maybe
I just kind of forgot about that element of it
and maybe it'll do great.
Speaker 4: I'm with you.
Speaker 2: I felt like you're just missing the boat because it's
like one. I was excited just because the concept was
cool of Okay, this girl meets this guy on this
dating show game and then there's all this other stuff
that unfolds and then you me about the documentary where
oh it's a crazy story. Where to me, if you
just watch this is just like, okay, date gone wrong.
We like we see that that's a diamond.
Speaker 3: Does it's a little generical? Yeah, like it was well
shot and yeah that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4: I like that shot. I love the setup of the
scene of Oh, give me your number.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'll just show me and I'll check it's right, like, oh,
you don't know your number, and like that thirty second
pause and when she walks and you see him coming
to frame.
Speaker 4: I liked it.
Speaker 2: But and like you said, hopefully it's just they'll put
on Netflix splash page. Directed by Anna Kendrick, she does
have like a falling. But I just thought for such
an interesting movie that trailer was real. If it was
just going to theaters, I feel like that's liked a
people would see them, like I'm not gonna pay money
to see that, you know, But I guess maybe because
Netflix they want to hide it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then honestly, like Salem, Salem's Lot and Your
Monster didn't really do much for me at all. I
think Your Monster there's definitely an interesting concept to be
had there, but I just didn't really find it that funny,
which it seems like it's really going for. So I
don't know if that one's for me. And Salem's all
just look like highly generic, like you get one of
these churned out every week. I feel like kind of things.
I'm not into it. I mean, there was a good
there was a couple of good shots near the one
right at the end when we're looking out at this
city scape and there's just all these figures on different
rooftops and stuff. You know, it seems like it maybe
has some potential to it, but I think this is
a it seems it seems a little a little bland
for me, for my liking mm.
Speaker 4: Hm, Clay.
Speaker 2: He didn't answer us at all about any of the
Megalopolis stuff, but he did say, finally going to take here,
I should I think you should leave recommendation with all
this tiff height for Tim Robson and Paul Rudd's new
movie Friendship.
Speaker 4: Which I guess I have a movie coming out.
Speaker 3: But yeah, well, I mean, I don't know if he's
talking about another Dylan, but I've never watched that show,
and I don't know what he's talking about. So I
love you, Clay, but I think, yeah, there's a mistranslation.
Maybe it was Kirkland who's into I think you should leave.
Speaker 4: I think so.
Speaker 3: I've seen like a couple of skits, and honestly, I
was not really a fan of the Tim Robinson things.
So maybe maybe it's an anti recommendation. You heard that
I didn't like it, and yeah, just like Dylan, I'm
gonna go watch this thing.
Speaker 4: If you haven't watched Nathan for you watch that watch.
Speaker 3: I think it was Kirkland. I think I do believe
it was Kirkland, who is into that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Well, ask me if a Piers night, Yeah, I'll go
because I already talked about the other ones and just
the other two.
Speaker 4: Yes, it was. I was hoping better because this is
a movie that's been in the.
Speaker 2: Can for like a while, and it was one of
these things if like I think people were Max was
Goeta the HBO that may that I explained, have a
good night there, clan, uh, we're happy you're here.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: I think it was one of those people were word
was gonna get a write off like tax credit sort
of thing, and it didn't happen. But it's a remake
to a movie that's a considered a classic core like
in not in like one of the big times, but
like the old movie has a lot of praise. I
have seen it, but not in a it's been at
least a maybe two decades.
Speaker 4: I gotta rewatch it. So I'm probably gonna rewatch that.
Speaker 2: When I watched this, and the buzz around this has
been good, so I was kind of hoping it was
like because I remember Eagle Dead Rise is it.
Speaker 4: Called Rise right? The new one? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay that it sounded like I had a similar situation.
But I was like, you dealing where I didn't love
the trailer. But again with the spooky season, and this
will probably just be on Crave because it's Max. I
will watch it because it's just okay, it's there, You're
a monster. I was disappointing because I'd heard this concept
and that's why I put the trailer in here of okay,
that like modern debut of the Beast, girl finds monster
in her apartment and you know, they start to find
a friendship or a relationship. But I will still watch
this on VOD. But I guess I just didn't There's
none of these jokes really landed for me.
Speaker 4: I didn't think they were also bad.
Speaker 2: I didn't think, oh man, this is awful comedy, but
I just like, I don't know, if maybe it's not
supposed to be laugh out the whole funny.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just thought, oh, this was a really cool concept,
and then I watched a trailer it almost unsold me
on the concept. I kind of hope that he acts
a little more. They should like snippets of him being
like beastly, but sometimes it just felt like a dude
in makeup, right, And I'm not sure if it's supposed
to be the actor because they talk about her. She
has an ex in this movie, right, is that ex
supposed to be the guy in the makeup? And it's
like a inner mind sort of thing that I.
Speaker 3: Definitely don't think the monster's real, I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 2: And that's why I could see it still being that
guy in makeup, so and I honestly I'll be disappointed
because I was kind of hoping the monster would be real.
Speaker 4: I think it would be fun, like to like play
with them like.
Speaker 2: I think that's why we love, or we at least
always are excited by the A twenty four stuff, because
we always see these plots and most movies they'll go,
oh yeah, but it doesn't actually happen, but they go, oh, no,
we're gonna actually do that, And this is the thing.
Sometimes it's bad, sometimes it's good, but that's our I'm
kind of hoping. But uh yeah, I was a little disappointed.
Speaker 4: By this trade.
Speaker 2: But I'm hoping that when I watch it, I'll be
it'll be a pleasant surprise to go, Okay, no, this
is a fun movie, so we'll see. But uh, tayor
what do you think about? You got Dexter, your Monster
Salem's Lot.
Speaker 5: So I'll start with your Monster now. Immediately when I
saw that true railer and saw the Monster, I was thinking, Man,
it's our boy Gray back from Harry Potter, just getting
his own solo film. They look literally the exact same
when I'm when I'm looking at them, it's crazy.
Speaker 4: Your monster guy looks a little.
Speaker 3: Cuter, but a little cuter, a little more human like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little more human like for sure. Uh yeah.
So I'm not interested in this movie whatsoever. It's just
it's not pulling pulling me in. Yeah, I'm just not
engaged with it. So there's that jumping over to Dexter
Original Sin. It's weird to be watching this and these
events knowing where we're at, considering he's not technically dead
in Dexter New Blood, and it's just it's it's weird
going back to this because I feel like I am
someone who enjoys pequels, and I know there's gonna be
elements that I enjoy from the show because they're gonna
pull on those cop out strings that like, oh I
love seeing like this world and whatnot. It's gonna work
on me.
Speaker 4: I hate to a couple times before, yeah.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and it's gonna work. It's gonna work on me.
But at the end of the day, like I don't know,
if this is the show we really really need, they
should spend hopefully a little bit more extra time on
telling us how Dexter's going to navigate his resurrection in
the new series.
Speaker 4: But maybe they're making a whole show. I don't maybe
answering the prequel.
Speaker 5: Maybe the writers of this show shouldn't be attached to
that unless they're doing good. If maybe I eat my words,
maybe they're writing a good story here that we can
get on board with. But I'm still just a little concerned.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it is going to be the same.
I don't know if it is.
Speaker 5: I feel like it isn't. But maybe I'm wrong because
the shows do come out at different time, so very
well could be the same.
Speaker 4: Writers I know, say my producers and stuff, but I
don't know about writers and everything.
Speaker 3: I'm definitely more concerned about the people who greenlit this
than the people writing it.
Speaker 5: That's fair.
Speaker 4: I just want to know the chicken in the egg.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't think I have writer, just producers
as of maybe screenplay with they have that under tell
a play hang on all.
Speaker 4: Last here, No, they don't have that.
Speaker 2: So they don't have that yet, says serious Writings credit
is Clyde Phillips. So it says one episode. So Clyde
Phillips he wrote and show ran Dexter season one to
four and then new Blood, so like he is like
the Dexter guy, but so he has like a hand
in this. But again for me, it's just like what
you said to It's just I not I'd be fine,
but I understand doing this show. If they're not doing
anything else with Dexter, it's like, well, how how else
can we use this ip? But ever since they've announced
while we're doing a Dexter like he's coming back a
sequel series again, it's like, well, what is the point
of this SI, I don't know. It's just just just
just to have some more Dexter. Good times with him,
and I guess he's an intern right now.
Speaker 5: I guess yeah, And you're exactly right. It's just more
more good times, and I would rather just get to
those good times post New Blood and see what's going on.
You know, give us if they wanted to give us
like a young Dexter theme show, then get us Harrison's you.
Speaker 4: Know, I think they botched that unfortunately.
Speaker 5: Rich like or whatnot. Don't call it original sin, call
it like sequel sin, Harrison just news.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I and the sin like the s I N
is like in Blood, like it's stripping down the rest
is normal and everything perfect.
Speaker 2: When you're talking about prequel stuff, do you think they
show away they're like, Oh, if you ever get shot
in the heart, this is how you survive at Dexter.
Speaker 4: You're gonna do that.
Speaker 5: So that's how we know it's gonna be. It's gonna
be him lying on the snow, probably in the opening,
and it's gonna be like zooming in from the top
down and like spinning around, and you're gonna have him
narrating talking about like.
Speaker 4: It's just like my first year in Miami, and they
shoot him, Harry shooting him in the heart, to teach
him how to survive and everything.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you get shot in the snow?
Speaker 4: Cool, Yeah, exactly, we got lots of snow here in Miami.
Let's let's make this. But yeah, and then any felt
in Salem's lot.
Speaker 5: Salem's Lot. I don't know if there's enough substance there
story wise, I think it's lacking. But Taylor visually it is.
And visually alone pulled me enough to like intrigue me
enough to want to pull me in to watch this.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 4: A lot of pulling, a lot of.
Speaker 5: Pulling, a lot of pulling. I just think that visually
this looks great. The moment that the kids running and
he's in the treehouse and like he's like closing the
window latches and you see eyes and distance and he's
like pulling his flag aga in you know, fuck the flag.
But you see them crawling on the sides, Like, man,
this looks terrifying.
Speaker 2: Someone please screen like grab the flag. Comment just get
teared canceled.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, they would like me in the States if
I said that. Uh, but you know, I think I
think its visually it looks fantastic. That ends scene if
him standing there and you see like all like the
rooftop ghoules just up there. Oh, there's so many different
scenes that.
Speaker 2: I think there are vampires. I just felt like, because
they're vampires, that would help you out too.
Speaker 5: That's how I was thinking that.
Speaker 2: It were weeks ago. You're just like, vampires are hotter
than ever. And then we went down all the movies
that are bombed. Yeah, so I just feel like this
is free chance. Yeah, you're being crave. You'll have crave
for penguins.
Speaker 5: That's true. Yeah, well I got crave no matter what
now thanks to cell phones. But yeah, I think that
what does that mean?
Speaker 4: Your cell phone just comes with crave now.
Speaker 5: It does. That's what I was telling you about the deal.
Speaker 4: Right, so I have that too now because you have that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, cell phones, man, they.
Speaker 3: Give you free.
Speaker 4: It's installed in your phone.
Speaker 5: Now it's a little coffee.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's like you two couple of years ago, or like
a decade ago, when they like had their album on
automatically on iTunes.
Speaker 4: Do you guys remember this?
Speaker 2: And then when I got mad, they'll start doing that megalopolis, like, oh,
free coffee with your new phone.
Speaker 5: Like ten gigs of your phone art.
Speaker 4: Space, who tell us for right now? Taylor.
Speaker 5: Uh with my internet. I'm remember I signed though we're
fucking Rogers Rogers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm making the jump to tell Us because they
made a good offer, so I'm hoping it's not ship
they do, but I'm not.
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Speaker 4: Let's go to Uh Agatha.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna laugh at you never shows up, but Agatha
and Penguin Predictions. Now this be quick because there's not
too much here. This is more just sotilic and pop off.
Speaker 4: And give us some scenarios here.
Speaker 2: But I'm just gonna start with Agatha, and I'm just
gonna ask, uh, Dylan, what is your excitement? Because we started,
what is your excitement for Agatha? I think I know
this answer, but.
Speaker 3: It's not near zero for sure, like maybe maybe one
for Aubrey Plaza is where I'm at for the you know,
I like Catherine Haunt and stuff. But yeah, I it's
it's very very low. In fact, we were talking about,
you know, who's gonna review this episode this week, and
I was like, I got a plan. I don't need
to make this plan, but like I'd rather make this
plan than watch, so I might. I don't even know
if I'll be watching on a weekly basis. We'll see.
I maybe just don't want to right now. So very
very low on the hype level.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're gonna, like our plan is to review,
but I think we said like this, you know, in
the future, we're gonna be sometimes more picky, and if
like by mid tier, if all of us are kind
of like, that's all right, we might just do like
a final you know, batch bundle review.
Speaker 4: You will see because it's harder.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, if we didn't have other shows happening, then
not as bad, but me neither don't. Well I hope
because Kirklin's on the review with me tomorrow, so if not,
I'll sold it. But uh yeah he did say that,
But yeah, no, either way, I think if there was
not Penguin and Rings the Power, then for sure.
Speaker 4: But we will cover Agatha one way or another. But yeah,
I'm pretty much with Dylan where I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't really have much exit. Like saying zero sounds
bad because I don't. I don't necessarily think this is
gonna be like a bad.
Speaker 4: Or terrible show.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna be like Secret Invasion level
where it's like, oh my god, this is what I
just think it's gonna be like a fine you know,
MSU bottom teer, like you.
Speaker 4: Know, bottom Pack, we're forty projects now or something. But
Kurculin and stop putting your investors in the chat. Just
get in here, my god, give your opinion there.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah sure, or you're still driving the headwater
or whatever. But yeah, no, I don't have much of
this show. I don't think needed to happen. I'm hoping
it's fun. That's the best thing I can hope for
is that it's gonna hit on a thing that Man,
every time I watch this every week, I'm just having
a really good time if it's this log and if
it's I'm having a wait for episode four to five
for it to get really good.
Speaker 4: No, man, that that's not what I want happening right now.
So there you go.
Speaker 2: Motzenberger commos being munchdown right now by Patzer, we'll get
his venom thoughts. Certain we didn't cover vandom yet, Kirkhlam,
So we're gonna come back to you.
Speaker 3: For that discussion.
Speaker 2: Yay, you're not on next this week's review, but I'm
sure you'll be on maybe one or somewhere along the way.
What's your hype level for Agatha?
Speaker 5: I think that there's, like what I said about the
previous movie, Salem's Lot, there is some visuals that are
probably good at pulling me in, but there is not
a lot of juice there with the story that I'm
really feeling engaged with. So yeah, like I felt like
her character was easily over and done with in the
Wanavision show. I did not need anything else extra than that.
I'm sure there is a community out there. There is
super big on Agatha and her in the comics whatnot,
and they're all about that, but it's not really for me.
But that being said, I don't think that it's a
it's a call they shouldn't do the show. It's just
having a lot of different content for different fans of
the MCU, and that's great, so it's it's definitely still
a win, but I think that overall the show might
not do necessarily well. If you look at like the
regular GA well, the only hope like it. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, I think the only thing they're smart is released
this run Halloween time, and maybe they can glomb off
some like, Oh I want to watch a spooky show,
but I don't even know then because there's lots of
spooky stuff going around.
Speaker 4: So yeah, all right, what is gonna be? Don't want
to be the fate of Agatha when this show ends.
Speaker 3: Oh that's question. I think she'll still be around.
Speaker 4: Okay, so no death.
Speaker 3: I don't think she's gonna die. I don't. I don't
really ever see see her getting promoted to movie status though,
unless we get a wand of movie, which is you know,
we talked about and it's like not confirmed or anything
like that, that would maybe be the situation. Or what's
the vision thing again? Vision quest is what it's called.
Speaker 4: It's TBA what it's called.
Speaker 2: It's sometimes been a vision call quest, sometimes just been
vision and never never snow.
Speaker 3: Okay, so I think that I think she'll just remain
as a Disney Plus character. Honestly, I don't think they'll
kill her off, but I think just with the changes
that they've had recently in between the time of this
show filming and now the show releasing, I just feel
like we're not really gonna see this character maybe ever again, honestly,
but you will die. I just feel like they might
just not do anything with the character going forward. The
focus of like really focusing on like the things that
make the money and that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go that far because I feel like
there's like, even as like a ensemble Midnight Suns, you
could throw an Agatha in there, even if she just
is like she's.
Speaker 3: Like for years. Though, is that really happening right now
or they're just gonna make a million of movies.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if it does happen, I could see
her being thrown into like, oh, we got to go
to Agatha's manor to get this MacGuffin, you know, like
something like that, because like if Red Skull can come
back after.
Speaker 6: A Red Fist though, that's like one of the biggest
Marvel villains of all but Agatha in more projects than
he is, you know, right, like he was a one
and done and we didn't see him for.
Speaker 4: A whole decade.
Speaker 3: You know, that's the same number of projects.
Speaker 2: No now too though, because it's one vision and a show.
As I'm saying, like it is now endgame. But I
just mean, like we didn't get Red Skull the show
we got Red Skuld.
Speaker 3: Probably appeared in if at some point, right he did,
he did, Okay, more Red Skull.
Speaker 2: I think that's probably in one if somewhere too. If not,
she's coming up. But I don't think she's done. I
think I think it might beat a pen on the show,
because you never know. Maybe the show does take off.
I'm not saying to be a breakout hit, but maybe
they go, hey, it did better than we thought people
like this character like this, or maybe it's the same
thing of just if they do. Because the Brad Winderbaum
who looks after Marvel TV, he's still under Figy, but
he did say there's still planning on more Marvel's Present
special presentations.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if that's gonna actually.
Speaker 2: Happen, but if it is, like I could still see
like in the future they do like an other Halloween
spooky centric one, you bust out Agatha for something. But
I have another theory and I'll save that in a
second for another prediction that I do think we'll see
her again, But I'll say her fats is that she's
achieved her goal in this show and she has a
new goal by.
Speaker 4: The end of it.
Speaker 2: That's what I'll say, Okay, But it doesn't end in
like a cliffhangar way where it's like, all right, let's
you know, follow your nose like rings the Power, It's
gonna end like succinct. And even if you did never
see her again, like don't said, you'd be fine at that.
So Taylor, what's going on the Agatha by the end
of the show.
Speaker 5: I feel like I feel like they'll keep her alive,
but I don't know if they're gonna pull from her
ever again necessarily. I mean, when you look at the
characters from Wana Vision one, it was definitely like the
main one, and we're finally getting Vision snow Vision, right
or just regular Vision?
Speaker 4: Who are snow Vision? Regular Version is dead and he's gone.
Speaker 5: Regular Vision's dead.
Speaker 4: He died game No, he died in Findy War. He
died a long time.
Speaker 3: Have you seen New York?
Speaker 5: No? No, I haven't. Should I watch it before?
Speaker 3: It's okay? Yeah yeah, top.
Speaker 5: Half mc uh yeah. I think that's I think that
this they're gonna keep her alive, but they're not gonna
pull her in for anything really in the future unless
they really really need to. They'll maybe they would save
her for the kind of role that Red Skull had.
We're gonna get like in the next like ten years,
the next Avengers film, and they're just gonna go to
some random planet and Agatha Katherine Hans be floating in
like Clint Botton like something like that. I don't know.
Uh yeah, yeah, there you go. I just don't see
them really tapping in this character much, especially if the
show does not perform and the numbers are not standing
up as high as they were hoping, then I think
that they might just leave things off to the wayside.
Speaker 4: Okay, uh So are there any ms characters you think
could appear in Here's.
Speaker 3: Your character is?
Speaker 5: Hm?
Speaker 3: I don't know who I need?
Speaker 4: I need the Scarlet Witch.
Speaker 3: No, she's not in here. Definitely. If she was, they
would have they would have spoiled that in the marketing.
Any thing.
Speaker 2: Maybe they will if it says really bad. No, I
don't think she's here. I think there's a presence, but
I don't think she's there. As far as new scenes filmed,
I'll say it's the worst cast secret, But like, what
do we think about, Like, I don't know what they're
gonna do with Wanda's son. Billy's in this thing. He's
all grown up. Now, what are they gonna do with that?
Speaker 5: He's like in it?
Speaker 4: Okay, maybe it's not the worst cast secret.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll talk about that another time. Then tune into
her Agatha reviews. But one of one of his kids
is in this. Yes, that's like they've they're grown up.
Speaker 3: Is that in the marketing or how do you know that?
Speaker 4: It's just been a like an unspoken news. I think
we've talked about this on air when the person got cast,
and I think it was just that long ago. But
one of her kids is in this all grown up,
so they survived whatever happened Mumbo Jumbo and west you
and I imagine the other one is because Tommy and Billy
are in the Young Avengers in the comics, So that's
the idea.
Speaker 2: There's been recent rumors of like Vision Quest possibly featuring
like the West Coast Avengers or stuff like that.
Speaker 4: So the ideas maybe they could be doing some other
small teams. So yeah, what about Wong.
Speaker 2: I think Wong always has potential to pop up and stuff,
and especially supernatural. He's my my top candidate to pop
up in this really out of it like for MCU characters,
someone that's not just like uh, like God, who's the
guy that was in Incredible Hulk, but he's in the
Spider Man movies. He's a teacher. He has a beard
and he has long hair. He's one that he's the
guy who his wife said she was snapped but he
found it.
Speaker 4: He actually.
Speaker 2: So not a character like that. I'm sure some other
MCU character could pop uparts. Oh we've seen remember like
the Spider Man do a flip and then he was
also in shung Chi. Like I'm not counting those guys.
I'm saying characters we know by name. I think Wong's
the top candidate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that makes sense.
Speaker 5: Like that, what about what was his name scr BJ?
What was the guy's quicksilver h Boner?
Speaker 4: I actually don't think that's out of the realm of possibility.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, because they're gonna go back to Wesview and you
would have met like they have to, like Fraget the
Spell to be Broken and the mom from the seventies
shows in there, so I could see him being in there,
which I really unless they're.
Speaker 4: Doing some wreck conning, I really don't want that.
Speaker 3: So I feel like I needed to rewatch the trailer
before that. I'm like, I have no idea what's gonna
happen in the show. I did not know what this
was happening, so it's hard to me to make any
viable predictions here. But I like the Yeah, Jimmy Wou
or what about the scientist lady who was in uh
Wanda Vision or WandaVision, who is like also in the
thor movies.
Speaker 4: God, what is her name? I know it's Kat Danning's,
but what is her?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I could see her popping up, that would be that
would make sense. What else is she gonna do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Darcy right, Yeah, Jane's dead, right, so she needs something,
she needs somebody to hang on to. But yeah, I
think it's mostly because they go on this like Witches
Road and supernatural stuff, so I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe they bumped to at the beginning or at the end, But.
Speaker 5: Get Eric selvag in there. Let's bring him back.
Speaker 4: They should bring him back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about he's non mcu character. Yeah, but I'm
sure he will be. Do we finally get Dylan You
weren't around for us craze at the midnight reviews, but
Taylor Mephisto.
Speaker 4: You get some Mephisto action in here one.
Speaker 5: Place, this would be the place. And I remember, like,
what what show was it again?
Speaker 2: Because it was Wanavision, so many Easter eggs and the
crayers like, yeah, we never were planning for Mephisto, but
everyone thought because he has a lot of ties with
Wanda and her kids and everything.
Speaker 5: So that was when was it? Far from Home was
releasing during Wanavision, and they were like the Mephisto rumors
circulating around there too. I thought there was like people
holding like posters and horns.
Speaker 2: Well that was no, that was for No Way Home.
I think that was just I think it was just
a meme. I don't think anyone thought. Well, I guess
the reason people might have thought Mephisto was in there
because of the comic books. He does make a deal
with Mephisto and he made a deal strange, so I
guess there's probably a Mephisto theory, so.
Speaker 5: Makes I'm down to be back into like every night
they're thinking like, oh is this second I got Mephisto
in there? Because you get Mephisto, then I feel like
we're one step closer to like the Rider. Maybe here's
some point so is right?
Speaker 4: Isn't the rumor now that he's an iron hurt he is?
That's the rumor? Yeah, played by I won't say because
you I already maybe spoiled the Wana kid thing, but
I think they could allude.
Speaker 2: Or that could be and we'll transition this now and
end reddit for this show is something to allude to
Mephisto that connects it to another show. But I do
think it's that or to me, the end credit is
Taybor will appreciate this. It's gonna be Pious of the
Caribbean dead Man's Chest, where it won't be Aga, it
won't be Wanda, but the same way where they're like,
we gotta go get Jack Sparrow, it's gonna be Agatha,
Wanda's son.
Speaker 4: We gotta get you know Wanda. And what happened to
my own vision it's dead vision. But that's I think
that the That's why I was saying, Agatha will have
a new goal, and I think it will be to
fined Wanda, and I do think we're gonna tap on
the BS meter.
Speaker 2: There's a new another rumor about that. For the one thing,
I do think that movie will happen. If that happens,
I think Agatha is like I guaranteed to be.
Speaker 4: In that movie. I think if there's a Wanda movie,
I think they'll bring her back for that.
Speaker 3: So once again, I just feel like different eras I
feel like when this was being written and filmed, like
maybe they still have it in there because like that's
what was filmed. But I feel by the time we
get to whatever want is doing next, I don't think
they're gonna want to mess around with that. They're just
going to focus on the big the big cheese, you know,
focus on stuff that matters.
Speaker 4: But even if one or like im, I.
Speaker 3: Don't know if you were gonna ask like the viewership
on this, I'm just expecting the show to do nothing
for them. That's why I don't think they're gonna want
to focus on in the future.
Speaker 2: Nothing well, I mean in the sense of like Agatha
might be like I know a like she might just
be in two scenes to help resurrect Wanda or do
some sort of spell or help reunite Wanda with her kids.
Like I don't think she'd be a supporting character, but
something like that.
Speaker 4: That's right thing. Do you think the show will do
worse than As Marvel.
Speaker 3: I think that's the one will do better than.
Speaker 4: I agree, because I.
Speaker 3: Want to Marvel, but no higher, but no higher?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Agatha had that hit song, right, So that's
the thing that people said, Oh yeah, I like is
that that song like Charted did very well.
Speaker 3: Feel like Catherine Hallan like, people will click on that
on Disney.
Speaker 4: Plus, you know, spooky seasons.
Speaker 3: People who don't know it's a Marvel thing, they'll on
it anyway.
Speaker 4: Some people Taylor viewership and end credit predictions.
Speaker 5: Viewership is gonna be really low, really lower the.
Speaker 4: Miss Marvel, though none of us are going up far.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I think it's gonna be low.
Speaker 4: Well maybe not.
Speaker 5: I think, I don't know. I'll say no, it won't
be lower than Miss Marvel. I think that Miss Marvel
is it's in its own place. And I think Ga
and Marvel fans alike are kind of like, yeah, just
keeping that to its its own thing. But this, I
think you're right down, and I think people will see
Catherine Han and be like, oh, I know her click,
oh hello Halloween hah. Yeah, they'll just watch it.
Speaker 3: So I'll bey Plaza in that thumbnail too.
Speaker 5: Plaza, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: And you know they might have some trickery thumbnails that,
like show wander from behind and be like, oh shit,
Wanda hear you know.
Speaker 4: You know they're gonna do it, especially if there's an
episode where she visits her grave or.
Speaker 2: That'll get some clicks if you Tyle have some wander
from behind there you go, uh Taylor uh and credit.
Speaker 5: And credit fuck. I got no idea what like what.
Speaker 4: Like my suggestion of them going to find because like
if again I don't care why his kid is alive,
he's in this show.
Speaker 2: I feel like he's gonna want to find his mom.
I feel like that's the natural direction where it's like,
let's go get your mom.
Speaker 5: Guess the same scene of like him with the dark
hold and he's like like covering and you can like
hear Wanda talking in the distance or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I guess we didn't cover it, but they
literally have a trailer out there where she goes like
you're and they blank out what she says, but she
says Billy like they like. The marketing has been like
very like wink and nod like, oh, this isn't who
you think it is, but we all know it's like, oh,
that's Billy Maximov right there.
Speaker 4: So or mayna go find his dad?
Speaker 2: I guess right, because would be Vision because technically if
they say, like, well, your dad's a robot and then
he's seen on the news because he does have a show.
So again, see that's why I still think a that
could be Like she could pop a Vision Quest literally
drop his kid off, be like hey, this is your
kid and like oh yeah it is, you know boom.
Speaker 3: It's possible, and.
Speaker 4: They are making that show. They have a writer. They
just hired an actor again last week we've.
Speaker 3: Seen him hire writers before seeing them do it over.
Speaker 2: And they hired an actor to play an assassin character,
which is probably the Grim Reaper James Spader's coming back
for Alltron.
Speaker 4: So I think that show's happened to happen. I think
because I guess the the scuttle butt is they no
longer want to do shows with new characters. They just
want to do like established characters, which I Travis told
you that fucking two years ago. That was a mistake
when you guys did miss Marvel and all that stuff.
But you know, don't pay me for anything, Rob down
Junior from Memphistos, Well, yeah, sure, why not. Haven't played
I don't played Magneto, I haven't played Venom. I haven't
play all that stuff. Uh Taylor, you got the Agatha
predictions from PT Case.
Speaker 5: I do, which completely went over my head. I forgot that.
I whipped up something nice and juicy for you guys.
Speaker 4: You got a Penguin one coming up next.
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna whip that up just as quick.
Speaker 4: The thumbnail going, Is there a thumbnail?
Speaker 5: I'm gonna whip that up even Oh my god.
Speaker 4: What there's still a thumbnail? You said you do on air.
We've been here for.
Speaker 5: An hour and we're still on air.
Speaker 3: Jobs at once.
Speaker 5: When Kirkland slides in here, I'll slide.
Speaker 4: There's no thumbnail?
Speaker 7: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 5: It's but wait and wait on Kirklan, wait on Kirkland
for his debut. Uh So let me read this wonderful
uh wonderful chat chipte here. This one's for U S. Bubbs.
You can add to the whole roster of chat chipyte.
Speaker 4: So the show is put putting that work on him.
He said you'd do it for one year. He didn't
say the other year.
Speaker 5: You put every single year.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 5: The show is called Agatha. Chaos is my middle name.
Speaker 3: I feel like that was that's close to one of
the like rumored names or not rumored names, but they
announced names up. They kept rotating around.
Speaker 4: I think so middle like for an episode from behind,
I think as an episode title that works, but imagined
the show is Chaos show. Let's you guys review.
Speaker 3: We would gladly review Team Beach too. I gotta see it.
I like the first one, but hang on, I suppose.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you make us another chat GPT best of
we'll review Team Beach too. Well, we've already committed that
so well for making.
Speaker 3: Deals with the Patons, wheeling and dealing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so episode one, I guess that is no good,
very bad amnesia. That's the title of episode one.
Speaker 4: I like that title a lot.
Speaker 2: Actually that's pretty really an episode titled not a show,
but the episode title, Yeah, imagine she's gonna.
Speaker 4: Be like, where am I Westview?
Speaker 5: I basically told it to write eight episodes. I'm not
sure how many episodes the actual show is, so I
just date it's generically. Yeah. So so one Agatha wakes
up in Las Vegas, no memory of who she is,
but absolutely convinced that she's a card shark.
Speaker 4: Oh, now we're off. Now we're to a bad start.
To go hard left turn.
Speaker 3: Wow, I don't remember that from the trailer.
Speaker 5: Uh. So she's running a rick casino under the alias
of Agnes's Fortune when Rocket Raccoon appears, accusing her of
wrecking a game of poker against him.
Speaker 4: Just hanging out. No, he's not Peter quill Is, so
maybe he's visiting Peter. I do laugh because I didn't
see the first comment, as I said, yeah, I'm not
doing it this year, but we do have TV too,
So yeah, if you want teach too, well, you know
we'll hold you to it. But continue Rocket Rocket Raccoon.
Speaker 5: This escalates quickly into a casino heist led by aunt
Man and Louise. I don't know who Louis is.
Speaker 4: He's a guy. Oh my friend, you know, he did.
Speaker 3: Is this guy for no good reason?
Speaker 5: That's right. Well, they weren't on Earth, Louise.
Speaker 3: They were Earth for a little bit.
Speaker 4: They're on Earth for like six minutes.
Speaker 3: Out of all his other buddies. He didn't see that guy.
Speaker 4: Wait, no, I did. I think I remember the.
Speaker 3: Other buddies and saw the parents of a Cassie. Right,
We're on Earth long enough to see him for a minute.
Speaker 5: Okay, would have been nice to have him in there.
Speaker 3: Give him a paycheck five grand, film one scene, five grand.
Speaker 4: Good to go.
Speaker 5: Uh So, we who need to steal a powerful magical
artifact hidden in Agatha's vault. During the heist, the artifact
accidentally which stores part of Agatha's memory, but it also
opens up a portal to a karaoke bar where Thor
post end game is performing Sweet Child of Mine.
Speaker 4: Huge cameos happen. Rocket we got Paul show. We thought
secret Invasion, Secret Invasion? Can you imagine that? Though? Then
I'll say this show will get the views if they
got Paul Rudd Chris Hems for the n Rocket Raccoon.
Speaker 3: What if they just have like no name actors playing people?
Speaker 5: Westview situation Agatha flee is confused as Rocket swears revenge
for losing his winnings. Episode two, Multiverse. I hardly know her.
That's an interesting name.
Speaker 4: I like the I like the titles showing you know.
Speaker 5: Agatha decides to keep the key to her lost memories
lies in Paris, because why not. But when she steps
through a portal, she doesn't end up in Paris. Instead,
she's in a parallel universe where Howard the Duck is
President of the United States and the Avengers are all
literal animals.
Speaker 4: This is great, this is good stuff.
Speaker 5: She teams up with Frog thor Throg and Spider Ham
to break into the White House for President. Howard reveals
that he was once Agatha's apprentice. Before Agatha can get
any answers, Doctor Strange bursts in, claiming this entire universe
is an illusion caused by Agatha Binge watching sitcoms while
sleep walking through the multiverse.
Speaker 2: Man, it sucks because this is a time where you know,
I'm always supporting the writers, but there's every once in
a while, I'll say not at ten times the show
is always better than what chat Gipt gives us.
Speaker 4: But there's that one time. There's that one time where
I know man, this already sounds more exciting than the
previews we've gotten for the Showy.
Speaker 3: Look like anyone can come up with a fun idea,
that's what this is. But would it actually write something
halfway decently.
Speaker 4: What I would like this to be?
Speaker 2: Though, This sounds like a killer animated series to me,
not a live action but animated. To me, this sounds
like this could be almost like a what if, like
EGGA is going through a bunch of multiverse you get
just the people to do the voice or the lot
of people. But no, you're probably right down. But like
I'm digging these these ideas so far. You know, avengers,
all animals, how duck president you can do?
Speaker 4: How duck president you can do that?
Speaker 3: They should have done that in Brave New World. They
should have would have made it better.
Speaker 5: Would have been a wild I don't be super cool
to see though, Doctor Strangers utterly confused. I gestha more so.
And none of this makes sense and that's the point.
Episode three, The Witch and the Wasp. Uh Hope Van
Dyne tracks Agatha down in an alternate universe where everything
is tiny, literally, buildings, people, animals, everything. As Mini tries,
Hope claims, Agatha is if.
Speaker 3: Everything as mini isn't everything just like regular size?
Speaker 5: Or I guess it would be regular sized if you're
from that universe, but or multiverse, but if you step
into it like whoa, it's super tiny? Uh was Mike
popping off about?
Speaker 2: But I had to say they could not possibly have
done a better job turn me off of Dexter Original Sin.
Speaker 4: With such a short trailer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like that's every hardcore Dexter fan with
this show is like turned around.
Speaker 3: But yeah, uh so sorry, Kirkland Sandwich must be fucking huge.
Speaker 4: He's passed out. Oh no, he's dead. He's we're doing
the F four movie. He's not even gonna make it
till then, you know, Yeah.
Speaker 5: He's out cold.
Speaker 4: Uh do so.
Speaker 5: Hope claims Acatha is the key to fix in the
quantum world, but Agatha is too busy fending off miniature
ultronbots who somehow have still have like godlike strength. I
got the teams up with Hope and Jimmy Wu, who's
now the most respected detective in this tiny world, solving
miniature mysteries. All speak at the devil. Uh he's dead.
Speaker 8: And hello Kirkle, Hello gentlemen.
Speaker 4: Well we'll talk to hilaiter you continue talk to later
the episode.
Speaker 5: The episode ends with Agatha beginning memory of the Salem
Witch Trials, only to realize she was never actually a
part of it. She was just watching it on an
eighteenth century magic reality show.
Speaker 4: Episode four, what's so funny that?
Speaker 5: I don't know if that works out for me?
Speaker 4: This chat? It's good. It's this one's Travis coded Man
is good? I like it. I liked it too.
Speaker 8: Fuck.
Speaker 5: Episode four Bengo Knight of the Living Dead? Do you
like that one?
Speaker 4: Not really? Okay?
Speaker 5: Agatha returns to Westview, hoping to unlock more memories. However,
she's thrown into a Twilight Zone version of the town,
where all the residents are now zombies, but they're still
very much into small town suburban life. Zombie vision invites
her to Bingo night, where she runs into Deadpool, who
is just as surprise to be here.
Speaker 3: She is.
Speaker 4: Coming off the billion dollar movie Got Reynolds in this
good guy?
Speaker 8: Get him back? Yeah.
Speaker 5: Agatha wins a bingo, which somehow brings Mephisto into this universe,
but only for a brief moment because Deadpool accidentally cuts
him cuts him in half mid monologue. Agatha remembers nothing
from her time in Westview except the vision was terrible.
At Bingo, Blade makes a cameo, mistaken the zombies for vampires,
and then exits when he realizes his mistake. Good lord, Okay.
Episode five Agatha versus Agatha versus Agatha versus Yeah, and
a completely nonsensical turn of events. I Geta falls through
a multiversal rift landing and a glutorial arena where hundreds
of Agathas from different universes are forced to fight for
the amusement of the grand Master Jeff Goldblum.
Speaker 4: Nice, Finally, I've been waiting. It's been too long.
Speaker 5: Each Agatha has a ridiculous backstory Pirate Agatha, Cowboy Agatha,
Robot Agatha, and one who's literally just Catherine Han playing Catherine.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's doing the Deadpool third.
Speaker 5: Boy, Yeah, yeah, billion dollars.
Speaker 4: GPT saw the movie? I see?
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, excuse me, excuse The ultimate winner is Agatha
from the MCU, but not before she stumbles into an
unexpected team up with Loki, who has been trapped here
since the TVA fired him for excessive mischief.
Speaker 3: I seem to remember a different ending to.
Speaker 5: Yeah they fired that one him.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure God Loki, No, you're fired from being
a gull.
Speaker 1: Fired.
Speaker 5: Loki reveals that the multiverses collapsing because Agatha's alternate selves
have been meddling with sitcom realities across dimensions. Episode six,
Agatha and the Multiversal Bakeoff. Agatha finds herself pulled into
a magical version of The Great British Bakeoff, except it's
a high stakes magical competition with the fate of the
Multiverse in the line. Judges include Scarlet Witch, Doctor Doom,
and Nick Fury, who knows bake.
Speaker 4: Just for a second, stop. I still hate when now
we talk about Doctor Duman's fucking Downey Junior, Like, I
hate that. It's like a real thing, it's not even
a meme. But continue.
Speaker 3: I think we've racked up at least at least seven
million budget.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's costs more than an Infinity more an endgame together.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Uh so. Her competitors include Wong, Modoc and Howard the Duck.
He's back in that time, still trying to win.
Speaker 4: Modoc is a chef.
Speaker 5: Fu Yeah, it'd be great. Chef A dear she got
here halfway through baking a cursed to fle she suddenly
remembers she's been hopping through multiverse through the multiverse because
she lost a bet with dor mom Wee centuries ago
and he's been messing with her ever since. Episode seven,
Enter Clea, Exit Agatha. Cleia, the Sorcerers Supreme in the
Dark of the Dark Dimension, appears ripping Agatha from the
bake off in the middle of the final round. Who
Flay collapses, much to Nick Fury's dismay, and Clia explains
that the multiverses on the brink of imploding because Agatha's
meddling has caused serious magical indigestion. Agatha reluctantly teams up
with the Cleia, but in a shocking twist, ghost Strider
it specifically says the Nicholas Cage version Holy fuck burst
in and declares that only he can stop the multiverse collapse.
Agatha promptly vanishes in a puff of purple smoke, leaving
Cleay to roll her eyes at the absurdity of it all.
The last shot a teaser that Agatha's actual soul has
been trapped inside a rubber chicken and Deadpool's backpack. Okay uh.
Episode eight, Death is the New Black the season finale
takes an even crazier to her and it's getting.
Speaker 3: The conqueror shows up, well, we got so much and
man representation in this shows. They cleared his name and
they brought him back.
Speaker 4: He's found guilty.
Speaker 5: They cleared his name.
Speaker 4: Jesus this show.
Speaker 5: He shows up demanding to know why Agatha has been
breaking all his carefully curated timelines. But the seven epic Showdown, Kang, Deadpool,
and Clear are sucked into a cosmic fashion show where
Agatha must create a killer outfit to escape the fashion
gods of a forgotten universe. Just when all hope seems lost,
Tony stark Uh makes a cameo claiming he survived by
uploading his consciousness into a toaster, a callback to the
infamous toaster from WandaVision. In the final.
Speaker 4: Holon the infamous toaster, fucking toaster you're talking about?
Speaker 5: You don't know?
Speaker 4: And so yeah Downy's back for two eh, may as
well he's.
Speaker 8: Back yeah uh so.
Speaker 5: In the final moments, I got the winds of fashion show,
but dies in the process, turning into a literal sparkly
puff of glitter. As the glitter settles, ghostwriter declares himself.
The news sorcer were supreme. I swear that was there.
Claya looks on in horror. And the last shot of
the season, a glowing portal opens, and how the duck
steps out, saying you didn't think I was done?
Speaker 4: Did? You?
Speaker 3: Gotta be honest about me too.
Speaker 5: But we got a post credits scene, which is always great.
Uh so post credits scene, return of the Dark.
Speaker 3: That's interesting, name for it, has a name for it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: The Cara pans over an eerie forrest bathe and sickly
purple moonlight.
Speaker 3: Oh that's good, got upgraded for that.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah. The trees twist unnaturally, their branches gnarled like claws,
and a soft wind rustles the leaves. Strange whispers echo
through the air in the middle of a small clearing
echoes in this show too, that goes in the middle
of a small clearing actions a massing stone cauldron.
Speaker 4: Can you stop for a second, Kircul, you're not watching
the trailers, are you?
Speaker 8: I am watching the trailers.
Speaker 4: Oh you don't need too, we did that already, so well,
you watch them.
Speaker 7: I was curious as till what the trailers were. I've
been looking forward to the Mickey seventeen trailer for a while.
Speaker 4: Okay, we'll get your thoughts.
Speaker 5: After continue to bubbling with dark energy. Suddenly we hear
a faint, ghostly laughter. A glimmering puff of glitter materializes
out of nowhere, the last remnants of Agatha. It floats
in the air, drawn toward the cauldron like iron fillings
to a magnet. As it reaches the cauldron, it hovers
hesitating for a moment before being sucked inside with a hiss.
The camera zooms into the cauldron, where a dark figure loomed,
emerging slowly from the misty vapor. As the figure becomes clearer,
it's revealed to be Agatha, but she's different. Her eyes
are glowing a deep red, and her usual smirk is gone.
Her voice is low and eerie. Agatha says, I'm not
finished yet. Suddenly a portal cracks open behind her, and
outsteps Mephisto, grinning as he claps his hands slowly, and
he says, ah, you've always had a flair for the dramatic,
haven't you. I thought you'd be glittered for good. Agatha
turns to face them.
Speaker 3: See that's what that's the actual chat Chipe dialogue right there,
we're talking ideas. The ideas are great dialogue.
Speaker 4: Jesus, that's fair.
Speaker 3: Glittering for good, glittered for good.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: Agatha turns to face them, smirking wickedly, and she says,
takes more than that to get rid of me.
Speaker 8: But you knew that, didn't you.
Speaker 5: Before Mephisto can respond, the air grows colder and the
ground begins to shake from the shadows, Nicholas Cage's ghost
rider rides in his flaming skull, illuminating the dark forest.
He dismounts his bike and approaches the cauldron, chain in hand,
and he says, hell's not big enough for the two
of you. Oh fuck, this is amazing.
Speaker 8: I love this.
Speaker 5: Agatha raises an eyebrow, clearly impressed. Mephisto chuckles, but the
laughter is cut short by the sudden sound of thunder
from a crack of lightning. Doctor Strange appears hovering above
the scene with a grave expression on his face, and
beside him is Clea, her eyes narrowed as she assesses
the dark energy emitting from the cauldron. Doctor Strane says,
this ends now, Agatha. You've been meddling with the multiverse.
For too long. Before Agatha can respond, another portal opens
and outsteps Wanda, max fully embracing her Scarletwitch persona. The
forest trembles in her power as she walks forward, her
hands crackling with kaok energy. She says, if anyone's going
to destroy the Multiverse, it'll be me. Just when it
seems like all the magical powerhouses of the EMC have
gathered echoes through the trees and out of the shadows,
emerges Deadpool, riding a baby t Rex, awaiting a flag
that says Multiverse two or twenty twenty four, and he says,
who ordered the chimney changas? Oh wait, that's me, stuck nerds.
Speaker 4: When chattrais Deadpool? Because it's the worst. It's the absolute worst, Like,
what's up, nerds?
Speaker 5: Okay? He stopped short, realizing that the very serious stand
off he's interrupted. Everyone turns to stare at him, the
tension building. Deadpool looks to the camera and says, okay, okay,
see what's happening. This is one of those spooky ends
of the world deals, right, been there, done that. Before
anyone can make a move, the ground splits over beneath them,
and from the car.
Speaker 4: How many times I thought Deadpool was the last and then.
Speaker 5: The chasm Rise is getting the conquer Floating in ominously
in his full battle armor, he says, the multi horse
is in free fall. I'm the only one who can
control it. As Kang's presence fills the air with dread, Agatha,
now fully powered up, steps forward with a wicked crin
Oh honey, you think you're in control, I am the chaos. Suddenly,
the Caldron begins to clow violently and heart tendrils of
magic shootout, wrapping around everyone. The camera zooms in on
Agatha's red eyes as she raises her hand towards the sky,
and she says, time to rewrite the script. The screen
goes black, leaving only the sounded demonic laughter and the
echo of Deadpool's voice saying, cute the dramatic cliffhanger. You
guys love that right to pe there you go.
Speaker 4: I felt like they beat all those characters in the
finale there, and then they all came back.
Speaker 5: It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 4: But no, not at.
Speaker 2: All, uh, Kirkland, We're not getting all go over all
the predictions. But yeah, what what's your hype level for Agatha?
Speaker 7: For the peole that weren't in the very low, very low,
very low I, which I was a survivor watcher so
I didn't have to be well. But no, I don't
like I'm hoping that it'll be a surprise, but it's
like expectations are low and like, I don't think it's
gonna be awful. It's just I don't think it's gonna
be something that I'm like gearing every week, like, fuck, yeah,
I new Agatha episode. It's it's also tough when it
gets like penguins starting rings, It's all right, a ship
well last week was a bit of a banger, but
I don't know, like there's just a lot of stuff
in the mix right now, like Jokers coming out soon,
So I feel like my my bandwidth is focus elsewhere.
Speaker 4: By the way, so did you hear the bend of
the hare asked, Yeah, who's who's the chap in that patron?
What do you mean, who's the chap who's.
Speaker 8: The chap in Megalopolis?
Speaker 4: Adam Driver?
Speaker 8: Yeah, there you go, that guy up and coming actor.
Speaker 5: Your point was free tickets. The tickets are free.
Speaker 9: I'll I don't understand what you're saying when you're like
the chap and I'm the driver, and then you're yeah,
and then you went to continue to talk about Agatha.
Speaker 2: Patroon Clay said if he would he if he upped
his tier, like to Patreon producer, would we review Mangalopolis.
We're assuming open weekend.
Speaker 8: I'm there. Ock yeah, got him?
Speaker 4: So and then so is that what he asked to do?
Is that to Patreon producer? Because like it's still three hours,
it's free, like because Adam or three hours. It's for
sure three hours.
Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure three hours the worst three hour movies.
Speaker 8: Yeah, five hours.
Speaker 4: No you don't know that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, s bubs, guy in the chair, let us know.
I think it's maybe I'm wrong, maybe you're wrong. It's
on Adam now, right, so I should have a time.
It's probably not three hours, right hopefully.
Speaker 3: And also you seen I think you should leave or
you're a fan of that? Right?
Speaker 8: Oh man? That that show is so fucking good.
Speaker 4: I'm wrong, it's too eighteen. It's too eighteen. Yeah, okay,
here you go.
Speaker 3: Clay Kirkland is the fan of that.
Speaker 8: Oh, Paton Clay is big. I think you should leave.
He was thanking me for Oh there you go it is, so.
Speaker 4: Had no idea. All right, there you go Patreon.
Speaker 8: Very specific type of humor. Clay, I'm glad that you're
in that that category.
Speaker 2: No, he hasn't watched it yet though he's going to,
so he doesn't even know, Like what's the confusion. So Clay,
you got a week and a day to go to
Patreon producer and then we'll watch Megalopolis. But you need to,
you know, need to do that because I'm still not
seeing it just for the fun of it all, you know,
because I don't know heard not great things?
Speaker 8: Yeah, fair enough. Any other questions there will be.
Speaker 4: Let's take a dad break. All right, we are back.
Speaker 2: I mean, let everyone knowing two weeks from now, we're
doing the Joker Predictions newscast. That's when you're gonna get
your BS meter because I can already tell with the event
of Stuff and the thing with Stuff, We're gonna have
a full newscast already. So I'm gonna kick that one
more time. I'm sorry, but we will. We will talk
about but I we're I mean, there's some tangents that
are gonna be happening. I can tell here, so uh,
Penguin Kirk I'll start with you, where's your excitement level
for that?
Speaker 7: Extremely high? Extremely extremely high? Yes, I feel like that's
one I kind of forgot that it has the Thursday
release to the start and then it moves to Sunday.
Speaker 4: Just one day.
Speaker 7: I'm not really a big fan of that, even though
I'm excited for the show. It's just like when we
have other content coming out on Thursday, it's just like, man,
my Thursday is pretty booked now. But it's just one
week though, I know, but it's like, just fucking do
it on Sunday.
Speaker 8: How's the dragon does that? They do it on Sunday?
Speaker 7: They don't, They don't do it on on Thursdays, right, uns,
I'm very mistaken.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just one day. It's just one day.
Speaker 8: So I don't know why too many if you're asking me.
Speaker 4: And another song a show on already on Sunday.
Speaker 8: Too many songs on Sundays?
Speaker 4: Lean song?
Speaker 7: But uh, yeah, no, I'm extremely hyped for that. I
what was I I was watching something on Crave not
too long ago, and like every ad was for Penguin
and I'm like, fuck, yeah.
Speaker 8: I'm so ready for this show.
Speaker 7: So yeah, I'm I'm super hyped Colin Farrell's fantastic I
watched Horrible Bosses not too long ago. I fucking love
Colin Farrell and these like little minor roles, so I'm
excited to have them in a in.
Speaker 8: A lead here. But yeah, big two thumbs up from me.
Speaker 4: Nice, big two thumbs up.
Speaker 2: So, Dylan, I know you're not joining the reviews, but
is this a show that you will maybe binge or
you think I'm just good until Batman too Well?
Speaker 3: Will not watch it? Ever? I don't think.
Speaker 4: Ever, What if you just hear immaculate things about it.
Speaker 3: I've heard imaculate things about many shows and I've not
watched them. I'm I'm I'm not watching this. I'll go
see Batman too and Joker too. But wait, that's about it.
That's the best you get for me on the DC front.
Speaker 4: I was confused about Joker two for a second. I
thought you're talking about Barry Keane's Joker. I'm like, well,
he needs Joker one first, But I see what's happening.
So because we're talking about what we were told about
Reeves stuff, and he's a Joker, so my mind was
in a different.
Speaker 3: Yes, there's jokers everywhere these days, they're falling out of
the trees and yeah, popping out. The two were great.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a third one because they got to
cast one for James gunn one too, so I have to, Yeah,
they have to.
Speaker 5: So Taylor, I am like, I was really unsure at
the start when they announced this show, because I wasn't
really I wasn't sure, like this is this is a
character in this kind of world I really want to
keep on exploring. But after seeing the trailer and just
kind of the kind of vibes for just these syndicates
kind of going against each other and just Penguin trying
to rise up, it does have something in there that
it's it's pull them here in, And I am really
interested to see what's going to go down here, especially
because it's a quick fallout of of the film, right,
and it's been so long since I've seen that film,
and I definitely need to pop it on really quick
here so I can watch it and get back into
that world. But I am looking forward to this a
lot and just see what kind of like a setup
we're gonna get, because I think the show is gonna
put a new spotlight on Gotham. And it's going to
position Gotham for that next movie, So I'm excited for that. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I can't remember if they said it's like a couple
months after The Batman.
Speaker 2: I can't remember, but yeah, we're not doing the whole
spiel because, like I said, we're already run long. But yeah,
they revealed that like Batman two is going to take
place like a week after this show, and some interview
asked them, like, oh, well, where does it fall them
all like the season, and he said, well, it's not
Christmas or New Year's but it's close to that. So
that gets me very fucking excited because that means Batman
two is gonna be said in the winter, and I
need We've not got much Batman snow content and I
need that happen right now.
Speaker 4: So that's very exciting. Yeah. No, I'm very excited because
I haven't done it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna be either tomorrow or Thursday rewatching The Batman,
getting ready, And I'm just excited because like that movie
still two years away, so it's just nice to get
a little taste of it because there's certain rumors about
rumblings of maybe some things being connected, and I do
like that they say it sets up stuff in The
Batman too, but I don't think it's specifically that you
will have to watch that, So that's good, and uh yeah,
I'm just excited to see more of Matt Reeves Gotham
and I think he has a good idea of the
lore of his world. Again, also in the press, he
said that the plans still do a trilogy, So I
hope that just means that they've talked with Gun and
he's still like, yeah, cool, Yeah, I'm down for that.
So that's that's my hope, that it's all funky and
we're going on that route, and that just gets me
more excited, and I'll be excited that when it's done,
we'll have the show kind of in the middle of it.
But Reeves has said there's no passing, no Batman, so
it did have that as a prediction.
Speaker 4: But he said that do you guys all take him
for his word? Do you think he's just he's just lying.
Speaker 3: No Patterson, He's a man of his word.
Speaker 8: No Patterson.
Speaker 2: Okay, I would have said weeks ago for sure, past
one's lock. But I think this falls this continuous Batman
rumor that Batman's not allowed on TV for some reason,
they just like don't ever want it.
Speaker 4: Batman's never been.
Speaker 2: On TV these like they just don't the Bruce Wayne abs,
but Batman they don't want it. But yeah, I still
thought they could have got him in there for something,
but I get it. They just said, like whatever Batman's
doing is more important. And there is a newspaper that
leaked from the show, and it's like Batman's been missing,
So I'm excited to see, like why he is missing,
what's he been up to? So I'm trying to think
there's no gonna be no end credits. I don't think
in this show is there gonna be anything specifically that
like really tips the hat to like, hey, this is
who or what is the main threat of the Batman two.
Or is it just when matt Rey's like, yeah, it
said to the Batman too, it's just kind of like, yeah,
this is the state of Gotham City.
Speaker 4: But really, like, you're not gonna get that till I now.
It's a cast, remember X, Y and Z. What do
you think?
Speaker 3: Don Yeah, I think because what do we got? We
got a clay face, we got two faces, we got
all these faces in the sequel, right.
Speaker 2: That's there's a rumor for a bun. There's those are
all just still rumor. We don't have that confirmed, but
I will say there is a character we're waiting to
get confirmed that last name is the same as one
of those rumored last name characters, like their.
Speaker 4: Sister is supposedly in the show.
Speaker 2: We've not had that confirm though yet, So that could
be a big tip that like, Okay, if Trasnell's sisters
in the show, you would assume that tras Snell is
coming in a future episode or movie.
Speaker 3: Right, I would assume. Yeah, so I'd maybe throwut a
preiction that we will see uh, one of these villains
like before they're a villain, like just as a guy.
I don't know if he'd be like a political figure
or maybe he you know, works at the Daily Bugle
equivalent of Gotham something like that. So maybe you could
see something like that. But I think they really don't wanna.
They want to make sure that the movie does the
complete job of setting up who that actual villain is.
But maybe you get like a fun little easter egg
sort of cameo situation in there, but definitely not a
major character.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not gonna be like, oh, here's here's tart.
Speaker 3: But also not a post credit type thing like the
character who's in there at some point for a conversation
or two like pretty simple.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Or I could even see them do something like
oh you got to talk to the new DA, mister Dent.
Like they don't show Dent, but they name drop.
Speaker 4: Dent and it's like shit, perfect, yeah, because we're like
the DA.
Speaker 2: I field don't remember the DA died and the Batman,
so I just feel like you kill the DA.
Speaker 4: Harvey Dent's known as the DA. It's a pretty obvious,
like we know who we're getting there. Tay, are three things.
One you said you'd have the thumbnail and kirklng go
in the room, not what's coming? Two have you been.
Speaker 2: Working on the chat GPT for Penguin? And then three
do you think this sets up any prominent villains?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: Man, I just would love to see a clay Face
pop in there. As for what other villains to see,
I really don't know. I mean, I'm always down for Scarecrow.
Scarecrow would be pretty cool.
Speaker 4: You know, it's not going to be like Monster Clayface, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, which I'm totally fine with Matt.
Speaker 2: He's again confirmed because people don't understand it when he
said the first time he says, we're doing grounded stuff,
and I.
Speaker 4: Was like, oh my god, what.
Speaker 3: Is made of clay? So I mean that's pretty grounded.
Speaker 2: He listed he listed the Oh god, Kirkhi, what's the
episode of Cape Crusader, the with the oh, the the ghost,
the ghost?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I forgot, isn't it? But there's a ghost in
Batman Cape Crusader. He's like, we're not, We're not doing that.
Speaker 2: It's like the Ghostly Gentlemen or gem and Ghostly or
something like that.
Speaker 4: Gentleman ghost gem and Ghosts. Yeah.
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, we'll dap stup. But we're never going
that far because he fights an actual ghost in the
news animated show that Matt Reeves produced.
Speaker 8: So watch that show. It is so fucking good.
Speaker 4: Great show. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Uh, I would love to see mister Freeze. That would
be really really awesome.
Speaker 7: Yeah, get set up there, Cirkle, same question you, same
question to all three. Thumbnail is not ready. I'm sorry.
Speaker 8: For I.
Speaker 7: I think it will be setting up some players, some
some main pieces on the chessboard.
Speaker 8: That would be Batman two.
Speaker 7: I I liked your DA pitch because as you like
good observation that you know, we don't have a DA
anymore and we need to have someone. I would like
the next DA to be Harvey, not just I don't know.
I'm trying to think of a generic name. For some reason,
Bruce Willis came in my mind, but that's not really
a generic name.
Speaker 8: John Smith.
Speaker 4: There you go, everyone's like, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like that.
Speaker 8: And then and then clay Face I think that.
Speaker 7: I think that's just fantastic, especially experiencing clay Face in
The Cape Crusader. My only ever other experience to clay
Face actually, you know, he popped up in Arkham City,
A okay, so I would have experienced him there, But
then it would have been the Harley Quinn show, which
which was a great version. I like that character, but
it's very different. So I I would really like a
more like Cape Crusader style of Clayface in this live
action world.
Speaker 8: But I don't like, do you think it's realistic?
Speaker 7: If like Matt Reeves was like a big part of
that show and then they do that, is that too weird?
Which clay Face like Cape Cape Crusader if like Matt Reeves, like,
what was your producer for that show? Like, is it
weird if he like has that same version in his
in his movie.
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I I think it's in the review it's like maybe
they did it and then he's like, oh, this could
work really well for movies, so I'm gonna do it here.
Speaker 4: That's I don't think so. Because Plus also I don't
think I got a mass amount of people are watching
Cape Crusader. Like sure, millions have, but I don't think
it's the point where people my mom's gonna be like, oh,
well they already Matt Reeves already did this and the
animates show nice June again, and maybe then he's like,
I can perfect it even more so because you can
do a big screen, big budget, you know.
Speaker 7: I think I think like a quart of Owl's thing
could be really fun, and Matt Reeves' Batman universe, but
I don't think that would be like set up here.
Speaker 8: It could be, but just like my is that it's.
Speaker 4: Not, and lots of people think it is.
Speaker 7: But yeah, my my little goosebumps are telling me no,
but they're not really telling me much. It's more so
just like yeah, I really like the clay face idea.
Maybe my goose pumps are pointing me towards Harvey, actually.
Speaker 4: Harvey, Harvey Harvey.
Speaker 2: All right, Taylor, hit us with your uh chat GPT chat.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 5: So this is called Kingpin of Gotham the Penguin.
Speaker 4: So episode one a second, is it is penguin in
the title?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay, I was just like, that's a big mistake if
it's not.
Speaker 5: Episode one. The King is Dead story opens with Gotham
City reeling from the death of Carmine Falconi Falconi.
Speaker 4: Or Falcone Falcon.
Speaker 5: His death has left a power vacuum, and various factions
of Gotham's coming on to the world are vuying for control.
Oswald couple plot Ones, Falcone's right hand man, realizes that
this is a chance to claim the throne. However, he's
not the only one with aspirations. The city's criminal organizations,
led by ruthless individuals who were once kept in check
by Falcone's influence, are moving quickly to claim the city's
key assets. Olswald begins by staking his claim to Gotham's docks,
a vital hub for smuggling on black market trades, but
he asserts. As hesserts control, he's met with resistance from
rival factions, including the Russian Bradva led by the cold
blooded killer Victor z Az, and remnants of the Moroni
family still reathing from the loss of their empire. Tensions
tensions in the city grow as a mysterious figure begins
eliminating key figures within Gotham's underworld. Cobble Pot must figure
out who is behind the murders while solidifying his grip
on Falcones old operations. Simultaneously, Detective Maggie Sawyer joins the
Gotham City Police Department, determined to expose the corruption embedded
within the city's institutions. As Sawyer investigates, the crime surge
and the murder of several city officials for path begins
to converge with Cobblepot's rise to power, sitting up a
dangerous cat and mouse game between the two. Who is
Maggie Sawyer? She a Batman character, She's a.
Speaker 4: Copy Yeah, you've just pulled it up. There.
Speaker 2: She's in blood Haven. So that city at Katwen was
going to end the movie. So she is a detective,
So there you go. She's a commissioner of blood Haven
look at that she was a detective of Metropolis as
well and Gotham.
Speaker 8: So double dippin, Yeah, double dippin.
Speaker 5: Episode two is called Cuththroat Cobba. Plot's efforts to control
the docks face major setbacks. A Zazz Brava brought va
hitman strike against his men. Meanwhile, Nico Grillo, a former
lieutenant of Salmroni, seeks to resource family's legacy by reclaiming
parts of Gothips underworld. Grillo is calculating a strategist is
a calculating strategist sorry, with deep connections to Gotham's criminal elite,
making him a serious threat to Penguin's aspirations. Peguin finds
himself stretched thin as he tries to juggle attacks for
both Zaz and Grillo. Worse, he begins to suspect that
someone within his own ranks is feeding information to his enemies.
Paranoia sets in and the violence intensifies. Peguin is forced
to make hard decisions about who he can trust, and
Godam streets tur into a battleground as gang wars erupt
and the city citizens are caught in the crossfire. The
detective Sawyer meanwhile, uncovers a trail of money and influence
leading to some of Gotham's most powerful politicians. As she
digs deeper into the criminal conspiracy at the heart of
the city, she learns the Penguin's involvement and realizes the
scale of corruption she's up against, and her relentless pursuit
of justice makes her a growing threat to Penguin's operation.
So three turf wars. As Gotham's underworld descends into further chaos,
Penguin makes a bold move to limiting his competition. He
orchestrates a daring attack on when Agerrilla's key operations, sending
a message that he's not to be trifled with. However,
this aggressive power gravely starts to escalate the war as
Guerrilla retaliates by aligning with corrupt elements within the GCPD.
With Kirk Cops not working against him, Penguin's empire is
under seat from all sides. While navigating these dangers, Penguin
begins to uncover the identity of the Mole within his organization.
The Mole's betrayal cuts deep is that someone the Penguin
had trusted for years. Faced with this internal threat, Penguin
takes brutal action, asserting his dominance in a way that
sends shockwaves through Gotham's criminal circles.
Speaker 4: They do de active Sawyer's investigation stop, I said, what
did he do?
Speaker 5: Oh? I thought you said they do they do? It
doesn't say what he did, just that, Yeah, it was
brutal action descta. Sawyer's investigation continues to close it on
the Penguin, but as she makes progress, she becomes a
target of intimidation from both the criminals she's pursuing and
her own superiors in the GCPD, many of whom are
on the take. Despite the growing dager, Sawyer refuses to
back down. Episode four, Burden of Cage. After barely surviving
an assassination attempt orchestrated by Grillo and a mysterious new
player known as the Broker, Penguin is forced into hiding.
While recovering, Gotham's criminal factions continue to battle for control,
and Penguin's influence begins to wane. However, rather than retreating,
Penguin uses his time in the shadows to plan his
next move. Realizing that brute force alone won't be enough
to secure his rain, he begins to broke her alliances
with some of Gotham's lesser known crime figures, offering them
protection in exchange for loyalty. Nico Grillo, sensing weakness and Penguin,
moves quick to consolidate his power. But just as he
begins to gain the upper ham, a new threat emerges.
Sophia Falcone, Carmine's daughter, returns to Gotham to reclaim her
father's empire. Sophia is calculating ruthless and deeply connected, making
her an even greater threat than Gorilla. Cobba pot still recovering,
must navigate this increasingly dangerous landscape. He finds himself in
a delicate position, forced to negotiate an uneasy alliance with
Grillo to hold back Sophia's forces, But this fragile or
this alliance is fragile, and both sides know that any
trust between them is only temporary. Episode five, Gotham's Ghosts.
Sophia fel Co wastes no time ghosts John goes, making
her prisons felt in Gotham. She uses her father's old
contacts and begins to systematically take over key operations, studying
with the drug trade with her arrival, the gang war
escalates no full bone conflict, with Gotham streets becoming becoming
a battlefield for control over the city's criminal underworld. Meanwhile,
Penguin tries to out maneuver Sophia by exploiting her alliances.
He digs up old grudges among her father's former associates
and so those discorporates her ranks. Despite his efforts, Sophia
proves to be a formidable adversary, and her influence grows rapidly.
As the war intensifies, Detective sore uncovers solid evans linking
Penguin to the murder of a prominent city official. With
the pieces finally coming together, she prepares to take down
Penguin once and for all. However, her pursuit of justice
puts her directly in the cross hers of the warring factions,
making her target for assassination. Episode six, There's This, one
and two more going eight, Blood in the Water, Penguin's
internal power struggle reaches a boiling point, to Sofia sends
a highly skilled assassinating Eduardo Flamingo after him, Flamingo is
a statistic killer, and this relentless pursuit forces Penguin to
go into the defensive. A brutal showdown ensues, and although
Penguin manages to survive, he realizes that he's losing control
of the situation, with both Sophia and Grillo closing in
on and Penguin has left with no choice but to
launch an all out offensive. He orchestrates a series of
attacks against his rivals, including a daring raid on one
of Sophia's key operations. However, his aggressive tactics only served
to inflate the conflict in Gotham's Underworld descends into chaos. Sawyer,
and armed with enough evidence to take down Penguin, launches
a city wide crackdown on his operations, but her efforts
are complicated by corruption within the GCPD, and she finds
herself isolated as her allies in the department are bought
off or intimidated. Where the fuck is Batman for all
of this?
Speaker 4: There's not there?
Speaker 8: And I like his his look.
Speaker 5: That's pretty cool.
Speaker 8: There you go, h so intimidate.
Speaker 5: Episode seven, the Fall, the war between Penguin, Sofia, and
Gorilla comes to a head. He'd head in a dramatic
confrontation at an abandoned shipping yard. Penguin has set a trap,
hoping to eliminate both of his rivals and one fell Soup. However,
things quickly spiral out of control when Flamingo arrives and
takes Sophia hostage and the Kios follows. Penguin faces a choice.
He can either kill his enemies and Cementa's rise to power,
or he can walk away and let Gotham tear itself apart.
The final confrontation is brutal, bloody. Penguin manages to kill Guerrilla,
but Sophia has death at Flamingo's hands leaves him conflicted.
He has won the battle, but the cost is higher
than he expected. Gotham is now his, but the city
is in ruins and the future is uncertain. Episode eight
Emperor of Gotham. With his enemy is dead and his
rivals eliminated, Penguin stands as the undisputed kingpin of Gotham's underworld. However,
his victory comes at a high price. Many of his
closest allies have either been killed or turned against him,
and the city's political structure is crumbling. Detective Sawyer, despite
facing mounting pressure, refuses to give up on her pursuit
of justice. She prepares to take down the Penguin once
and for all, but he remains one step ahead, orchestrating
an escape plane that leaves her with nothing. In the
final moments, Penguin, now firmly in control of Gotham's criminal empire,
stands on a rooftop looking over the city. The signal
lights up.
Speaker 2: Fucking killed him after all this finale, Ben Affleck's batman
drops down.
Speaker 4: And that's it.
Speaker 5: The bat signal lights up the night sky, remind her
that while he may rule the underworld, a greater force
is always watching. So he's just been watching this whole time.
People just getting blown up in the streets. The show
ends with Penguin's victory feeling hollow as a new threat
begins to emerge from the shadows, hinting at more chaos
and conflicting Gotham's future.
Speaker 4: I missed that. Can you repeat that?
Speaker 5: Which part?
Speaker 4: Like from the start? You see, pups, if you make
the best of you, can you lead that one out?
Speaker 3: Because you guys are more excited for this than Agatha.
Speaker 4: Come on, come on, yeah, I chose wrong aaa too
downies and stuff, But you know, sometimes they play it
very very like textbook like all I post all from
Wikipedia and that's what ended up happening there.
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, so so post credit scene.
Speaker 3: Of course, we're done.
Speaker 4: Let's move on.
Speaker 3: You don't want to post on it.
Speaker 4: We're here. He wrote it up.
Speaker 5: It's titled midnight Snack.
Speaker 4: How do you not want to hear it?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 3: Midnight snack postcardits have titled now.
Speaker 5: The scene fades into the rooftop of a tower in
Gotham building, dark clouds swirling in the night sky. Batman
in full armor stens silently by the edge, staring out
at the Chaok city below. The bat signal glows faintly
behind him, casting long shadows. The iconic breeding image of
the dark night fills the screen as we hear the
faint rustling of wings in the distance. Suddenly there's a
loud crunch. Batman's head snaps to the side and doesn't flinch.
Speaker 4: Just quietly turns, like his neck it just dies. His
head turned there was like then there's a crunch. It's like,
oh my god, yeah.
Speaker 5: Uh from the gloom I figure emerges. It's Oswald Cobblepot
the penguin, but instead of the typical menacing stare of
harsh words. Penguin is nonchalantly munching on what appears to
be a sub sandwich. Crumbs scattered on his coat, and
he looks completely bothered.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: Penguin, through a mouthful of food, says, oh, don't mind me, bats,
just enjoying a little late night snap you do.
Speaker 4: With a mouthful of food.
Speaker 5: Tailor Okay, I need to put food in my mouth
for that.
Speaker 4: Oh no, it's fine.
Speaker 5: Oh don't mind me, bots, just enjoying a.
Speaker 4: Little late night snack. You know.
Speaker 5: Being a crime works up quite an appetite. Batman narrows
his eyes but remains silent. Ever, stoic Penguin continues to chew,
wiping his mouth with a napkin he pulls from his pocket,
and with a smirk, he says, what No dramatic ex
at this time, no disappearing act, just standing there, old
broody like. He waves the sandwich at Batman. You should
try this to make a killer PISTROOMI down at Maroney's
old Deli. You'd think with all that running around you'd
be hungry too. Batman's stone face doesn't respond. Instead, he
folds his arms and stairs clearly unimpressed, Penguin finishes his sandwich,
laying out a satisfied.
Speaker 9: Side, hes there and waunches him eat the rest of
his sandwich.
Speaker 4: Yeah, fucking eat it.
Speaker 5: He folds his arms and stairs, clearly unimpressed. Penguin finishes
his sad oh yeah. He tosses the rapper to his side.
Penguin says, well, don't. Penguin says, well, don't say I
didn't offer. See around, Bats, I'm sure we'll have plenty
of quality time together soon. He waddles off the shadows,
still muttering to himself about the deli. As he disappears,
Batman takes a step forward, glance and get the scarded
wrapper on the ground. Without a word, He reaches down
and picks it up, examining it for a moment, and
the camera zooms in on the logo call Cone's Deli
as he sighs finally with an almost uh oh. God.
With an almost imperceptible shake of his head, Batman mutters
to himself when the lowest gross stone imaginable should have
gotten extra pickles. The screen cuts the black.
Speaker 4: Oh can you imagine passon saying that, and just the
whole community turns on reeds just like that. She got extra.
Speaker 5: Pickles after ten minutes a thing when eating a sandwich
and Batman just standing there.
Speaker 4: That's all he says. All right, we're gonna take our
last ad break someone I know. We won't bring it up.
We'll just talk about unless people haven't seen it.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back and we're back because I didn't
put this in notes kind of did everyone watch the
Venom three trailer? I'm sure they've seen it. Okay, good,
So we're not gonna bring it up because we've gone long.
You know, the fucking falcones DELI that.
Speaker 4: Kirk You're gonna shake your head. You got here like
twenty minutes ago. You can't go, oh yeah, we've been long.
Speaker 8: You know it's been long.
Speaker 4: But anyway, so this happen.
Speaker 2: This was gonna be remain sorry about kicked it at
the end so Kirkham could talk about this little bit.
Got the trailer last week. I don't think the tickets
are and sell yet. I got the trailer last week. I imagine,
who knows what everyone wants to say about it, But
for me, you know say, we'll say, oh, it's a
Venom movie. And then but the big thing was that
they preview or in the preview was they alluded to
a bigger thread out there, and it's Nol. If people
don't know who Nol is, they introduced him a couple
of years ago. There's like a symbio plan and he's
like the creator of the symbiotes. And yet did it
all that stuff very much like a okay, big huge
villain for the symbiotes. Akay, Venom right, and then that
happened and then there'd be there was a correspondence of
and I think this is because the double of three
things one Venom is currently doing reshoots in New York
right now, and Tom Holland had met with the room
with any Pascal, So people are drawing some lines.
Speaker 3: Two.
Speaker 2: I think it's because Destin Daniel Craton or whatever you
say his name, he got the Spierman gig and then
he got this trailer. There was a copious amounts of
stuff coming out now from from i'll say higher seat
your scoopers, no one in the C plus or B level,
but enough of like smoke, there's fire situation that apparently
it is sounding like that Sparman four might have something
to do with Venom four. And All even to the
extent of maybe having Venom in said movie and All
being the big villain. I don't know where that it
would go. It sounds like the original plans of being
a pure street level movie are dead. We had talked
about this for the rumors of Kingpin and Daredevil that
come again, other names that were thrown around for potentially
being in this or just just I don't know if
it was in all versions or some versions, but was Scorpion,
which was a note up but also mister Negative.
Speaker 4: So it sounds like there might be finally connecting these things.
But again we don't know. These are just scuttle butts
and rumors.
Speaker 2: But Nol is a big character and there's a lot
of smoke going on with some of these rumors right now.
So Kirklin, we have talked about many times about Nol,
and I think you had stressed that even if you
might sometimes enjoy these movies, that maybe you weren't wanting
all to be introduced here. But where are you now
as far as Venom three trailer null possibly and Venom
being maybe connected Aspiremen four and that being some sort
of multiverse symbio, because they already said like technically you
look at Noay Home. The end credit of that movie
is like the symbio, you know, stuck in that universe,
so you can't say it's like not complete out of
the realm of possibility. Yeah, what do you think about
all this stuff?
Speaker 7: I feel like I've just been like a disbelief all
week because I didn't watch the trailer till today, and
I don't even know how many days ago it was,
but I think it was you.
Speaker 8: You you got your fingers.
Speaker 2: The last point, too, is the rumor is Norman Retis
is playing all that is still just seat here, but
that is the current rumor.
Speaker 4: Memory you mentioned that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, Samporter Bridges, Yeah, I feel like I've
just been in disbelief because I don't know how many
days ago whenever this trailer came out. I think it
was to me and you're like I'll be ready, or
like you said something I don't even remember what it was,
probably some sneer gift or something and pickles, that's I
think that is what you said, Yeah, with your mouth
full of food, of course, And it's just like, okay,
they must be hinting towards something in that universe because
I didn't watch the trailer, and then of course I
watched the trailer and he's like in the trailer and
I'm just I'm just shaking my head the whole fucking time.
I I do not want this at all. I just
want these Venom movies to kind of just just just
I don't want to say just die, but just like
just retire, you know, like to retire. Hey, it is
so I guess that is happening, but the talks of
it expanding into into the multiverse of symbi symbiotes, and
I don't know, like it's weird that I feel like
if I had a conversation with myself ten years ago,
not even ten years ago, wasn't that long ago? Twenty
years ago, and just be like, man, there's gonna be
a point that there's gonna be like a lot of
symbiote live action content and you're not gonna want it.
Little yeah, you lies impossible, But like I feel like
that is kind of where I'm at now, Like like
I just don't really trust anything that could come out
of these like Sony Spider Man projects like at all anymore.
I I even like watching this trailer, I didn't think
it was like the worst trailer I've seen for these
the movies. But it's just like I don't want this,
Like I don't know, like I'm gonna be there, hopefully.
Speaker 8: I'm surprised.
Speaker 7: I think I had that thought going into Venom two,
let there be carnage, and I was very surprised about
how just awful that was, and I had low expectations,
and yeah.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I'm I'm gonna really try and stay open, but as
of right now, like I don't want this and I'm
not really looking forward to it, and I don't see
how they'll be able to do a fantastic job about this.
So hopefully I'm eating my words come the time for
this to come out.
Speaker 2: And do you like Gnola's the sperm and four villain
if that happens, Like if this is like the setup
and then the payoff is them teaming up in SPM.
Speaker 8: Four, I'm not opposed to it. I'm not loving it.
I don't know.
Speaker 7: I'm pretty neutral on that right now, and I think
I think I'll really know how I feel after this
movie and and just kind of what's showing with him,
like if the movie's awful, but I really love everything
around Nol and like if it is normal the big
norm read I and I'm loving the portrayal and everything.
Speaker 8: It's like, okay, give me some of that, Like I'm
down for it.
Speaker 7: So I think I'll really have to just kind of
wait until that happens to.
Speaker 8: No I like Norman Retis.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but yeah, like I've I've interacted a little bit,
Like I I didn't finish the King of Black series,
but I like I I was doing like the build
up series. Maybe that's where I screwed up, Like I
should just jump right in and do it, but I
was doing like all of like the lead up materials,
like of like like the Venom little arc.
Speaker 8: That's it, Yeah, exactly. So I started there.
Speaker 7: And Nola is just such an interesting character that I
can't really think of any actor that I would actually
like really pin him on, and Norman Reatas is definitely
not that. But like for what was shown in the trailer,
it's like I could see Norman Reatas, you know, like
with the long hair and like looking all somber and dour,
like I don't know, it's it's a little bit different
than kind of how I pictured Noll looking live action
I guess.
Speaker 4: Picture with that accent though, too, so I feel like
they gotta change that up if they if he is him.
Speaker 8: I agree, I agree.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I don't know I'm gonna I think I'm
gonna wait for my like certified, I don't know, rotten
or fresh meter on that, on on on the Null,
you know, for Spider Man, for like like moving forward.
But yeah, as of right now, I really am not
as hyped as maybe I should be of like getting
this news and like actual confirmation that that Noel is
going to be there.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know. It's strange. It's very strange.
Speaker 2: Film the strange. You don't have anything as far as
knowledge of Null. So I know that, But what about
this He's.
Speaker 8: Got the card and Marvel snaff I know that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3: That's that's as far as my my knowledge extends. But knowledge, Yeah,
and my knowledge in terms of characterization, I I don't
have much much in the way and I can't speak
on Norman Ritas in that way either. But I mean, yeah,
this trailer didn't really do much for me. I don't really.
I just don't like this venom. I know, it's like
a very silly thing to say, but I just don't
like the.
Speaker 4: Way he talks.
Speaker 3: I don't like the vibe of it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I like Tom Hardy, but I don't really like what
he's doing here. It's been like, when did that first
one come out? Was that twenty seventeen or was it
more recent than twenty eighteen?
Speaker 8: Twenty eighteen? I thought, I.
Speaker 4: Think so, I think twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's been a long time since I've watched
I never I still have not seen Carnage, so I'm god,
I'm a little bo too well. I might need to
the third one.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 8: Dylan's solo Venom Retro.
Speaker 4: I mean, someone pay someone, pay prodsearching to make him
do a commentary track. I'd love, I love, I would
do it. I'd love just a solo. Just don't want
especially commentary.
Speaker 8: Your track is just like so like out of energy,
like oh that there for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3: It's probably one that I'll be on the coach playing
Marble Snap while I watch it. It'll be one of those.
Speaker 4: But no, I.
Speaker 3: I don't really want this stuff to cross over with MCU.
I just feel like we have so much other ground
to cover, we have so many other characters. I don't
really want this vibe over there. I mean, maybe the
null stuff is cool and interesting, but from like what
we saw in this trailer of all these like big
CGI monsters, Like I don't really want this Tom Holland,
who's like fresh off mind wipe of like everyone else
mind wipe, Like, I don't really want him to go
fight some big gooey monster, like. I want it to
be a more personal thing to the character of Peter
Parker as well, even if I guess that's kind of
tricky because no one knows who Peter Parker is. So
either way, I just want something that's maybe a little
bit I don't even need to be familiar. But I
just feel like that is not the particular vibe I'm
looking for. But it sounds like the more and more
rumors to get, the more and more it sounds like
this movie is not gonna be a small scale thing,
which I never really thought it would be. It's just
kind of once again, what I what I wanted for it.
So I don't know, was there another element to this
that I'm forgetting about that was kind of everything?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: No, I think that I think that was it there,
So I'll go because maybe will be more positive because
he's always always the shining light when it's dark as sometimes.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's funny when we were in a scenario.
Speaker 2: I think we talked about this a couple of months
ago when there was rumors that, oh, Disney and Sony
can't agree, right, Disney and FI you want a small criminal,
street level thing and Sony wants the multiverse thing. And
I always was like, I prefer the street level stuff,
but the multiverse stuff, that's great because I'm down from
our Toby and Andrew and Tom.
Speaker 4: Now, if you would have told me the multiverse stuff
was two.
Speaker 2: Tom's but being Tom Holland and Tom Hardy, that's where
I go, Oh, man, I screwed up there, and that's
where I definitely should just no matter what, just say
street level. Not that my decision does anything to do that,
but I thought, oh, it's a no brainer. That's what
they have to be doing, right. It is the three
Spiermen again, because why wouldn't you that's what people want.
I don't know, like, here's the thing to take my
bias out of it, because I don't care about this
vent at all. I'm not excited for it. I will
be on the review becau it's gonna be one my
last big reviews. So I and those the Sony Marvel
reviews are as we said before, they're always just a
good time. I can't say there's not like a money
aspect to it based off the first two venoms. I
would be very curious if this was the plot going
for SPIERMN four and if them three just fucking eats it,
if they would again backtrack and go, oh, maybe this
is not a good idea, because I'm kind of sounds mean,
but I'm kind of hoping that happens because I just
want Sony to step back and make Okay, if we're
gonna make these films, we really needed to take a
second and put our best foot forward. They've not done
that so far, so to me, I don't know if
it's like a sure thing yet because that movie is
still has to come out next month and do well,
and we've seen that before. Aucamant to captain Marvel just
because they're big hits a couple of years ago. The
audiences have changed. What they want is changed, so there's
chances comes out and people go, ah, I actually don't
really care about Tom Hardy being in, you know, a
Spierman movie. But as of right now, those first two
movies big hits. So I'm just gonna assume, let's say
the third does the same thing. People love Venom. I
can't again tell you if you are an executive you
come to me and say, hey, we have a movie
with Tom holl and Vincentinoffio and Charlie Cox, or we
have a movie with him and Tom Hardy. What's gonna
be better? Well, it's the Tom Hardy one.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: It's that scenario again where it's just like I think
people would want to see them interact. I think people
that don't know Venom do like Venom and think he
would fit in the MCU and the whole jokiness and
like there's some stuff there. Yeah, he's been there there
for a cup of coffee or a cup of beer
or whatever.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: I just really don't know other than like, is that
just the way, Like that's how we because he can
be multiversal, Like that's how we get Venom and Spider
Man together. I guess I just feel like if the
reason I was kind of hoping a street level is
if we got so much big stuff going on, with
Doomsday and Secret Wars, like let him just have one
adventure and then get him into the Avengers. I feel
like it's gonna be weird of like, Okay, he's in
Doomsday and he's fighting Doom, and then okay, then he
goes and fights Nol and I guess maybe though, if
maybe that's what happens, like Doom doctor Dumake throws themto
like a null planet and just like maybe that's out
end the end credited aspierming on like the symbial planet
or something, right, I don't know, so maybe there is
Wasys again. It just does not excite for me at all.
But I just think Disney and Sony, but it's particular Disney.
I think they are looking into money, and who knows,
maybe there's a situation where they wanted to do that
Three Spider Men one and to like Toby and Andrew
like actually don't want to do it again, or they
want to save it for Secret Wars because that was
a root, just the Toby and Jackman stuff back there.
Speaker 4: They're like, well, they want to make.
Speaker 2: Something meaningful, meaningful, a connection, not just like a cameo scene.
Speaker 4: So that's good.
Speaker 2: So yeah, for me, I'm not a fan of this all,
especially because like mister negative, I was really I pitched
that last week. I think there's some money to be
had there, especially with the director. I think we could
add some great times there. And again they even this
report from the Scooper said, like, it's not that this
Street Level movie is dead, it just might be down
the line. But I just feel like now it's like
far from home.
Speaker 4: No way home.
Speaker 2: And then if this is like him fighting a symbial planet,
it's like, I don't know if you can go back anymore.
I think if you were gonna go back, this is
the time of like it's a.
Speaker 4: Refresh, you know, like it doesn't say the mind wipe.
It's a new Spierman in a sense.
Speaker 2: But if it's just like, oh, he's right back to
on a different planet, it's like I don't think we
can ever go back. And I don't think we're gonna
get that movie. I think they'll have Daredevil team it
with like maybe Elena or Hawkey, but the Spiderman boat
might be missed and I guess they just don't view
that way, and which sucks. But uh yeah, and the
trailer is whatever it is, it's a Vanom movie. It'll
be what it is.
Speaker 4: It'll be like a solid four to five out of ten,
and that'll be about it. I think Noel will be
in this movie, like at least more than the Madam Websuits,
but I feel like he's gonna have like it's all
gonna be sequel bait stuff. They might say it's the
last dance, but I think it's gonna be setting up
other stuff. And I don't like love the nol character
or like have the appreciation like Kirkland does. But I
was with him.
Speaker 2: I like, man, I really don't want him them to
do this right now because I just don't trust Sony.
But it's kind of like, what can you do now, Venom,
right You've done Carnage, you like, unless he's do Spider Man.
So yeah, I'm not I'm really hoping this stuff isn't true.
Speaker 4: But that was the other part of this rumor try
I didn't mention, but it just goes with it there
that this is supposed they're looking at it as like
an Avengers type of film, and that's where it's like
that also makes sense too of why that if Deston
was gonna do Avengers four and that was a massive movie. Well,
we're gonna make Spiremen for Massive, so let's get destined.
Because he's a Spiderman fan, he would do that and
it does. That would be massive movie is Venom Inspierman
fighting the Symbio God and a planet. But that just
does not sound peeling to me at all. So he
wants to do a Venom. Fine, let that be Venom four.
Make Venom four, make them go to the Simul planet. Cool,
but I don't really want one of Tom hart Holme's
like Spider Man appearances be wasted this way. But again,
it's for money. So it's like what we talk about
Lord of the Rings last week.
Speaker 2: Right then it all works out, So Taylor, the floor
is yours for the last topic of the night.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not I'm not big on the crossover idea
of having this Venom mingle with Tom Hardy Spider Man.
That's not Tom Hardy Spider Man, Tom Hollands Spider Man.
Speaker 8: Tom Holland's Venom. Give you that little more, now.
Speaker 5: That would be cool. That'd be cool.
Speaker 8: I pictured like more Spider Man three though, with fucking
Eric Foreman.
Speaker 3: Dancing in the streets.
Speaker 5: I just I wish that they would keep them separate.
I think that, you know, Sony is really trying to
push push push, and it's just like no, no, no,
we don't need that. So I think, what.
Speaker 4: If it's not What if he's like, yeah, that sounds great.
We can make a lot of money.
Speaker 5: You know, I don't think you should have Sony right it?
Then I think you should have.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't not ask not Speerman four. It would probably
be like a combo. I think they would be.
Speaker 4: Because the writers for Spider Man four is the writers
from the original trilogy here, So.
Speaker 5: Okay, then yeah, I like that a lot. Yeah, that's
that's good bearings. Then I I think so Nall is
going to be the rumor being Nall is the villain
in this new Venom movie. Obviously he's not going to
be defeated. They're just sitting the stage and a sound right, Yeah, okay, yeah,
so that would be I mean, it'd be interesting. I
don't know anything about Null. He does sound like a
very kind of coolis.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 5: I don't like the CGI from the Venom movies, though,
I feel like it's very different from the MCU CGI,
So it would be interesting to see how they kind
of mesh those two together. I feel like Sony just
kind of Now, Marvel obviously does do a lot of CGI,
but so log trucks Sony's CGI with at least with
Venom their Marvel Verse movies. It feels like it has
its own aesthetic to it, and I don't like it.
It feels like it's it's really like you can tell
it CGI. At least with Marvel there's that's a nice
kind of better visualization, Like it feels better on my eyes,
and I'm looking at it like it's it tricks my
brain a little bit more, and I can respect that
and take it. When I look at the purple the
red colors of Morbius and and fucking Damon Targarian there,
it's just it's something else. So uh yeah, I I
I'm excited for this this new movie though, believe it
or not. And this will probably be the first Veno movie.
I joined you guys for with for reviews because I
wasn't there for the other two, so I'll be there
for the non spoilers review.
Speaker 3: Karna is just a Kirkland Travis review. Little Two Men
was Yeah, did we.
Speaker 8: See it together? I don't I don't think.
Speaker 4: No, No, I saw it with Gwen. That was like
her first live action Marvel movie. Unfortunately, but Tayloran, that's cruel.
She wanted to go, she wanted to go, she chose it.
Toy said, you'll be there for the non spoilers review,
so when we switch away spoilsers can bounce out.
Speaker 8: Made plans that even He's.
Speaker 3: Like, I got fifteen minutes, give you my thoughts, and
then that of here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that'll be in October. It's kind of weird,
like I don't think about that way, but we got
Joker and Venom in October, Like that's two big movies,
but I just don't think about it because then.
Speaker 3: Much of the bigger box office.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'll just say Joker, but you never know, you never know. Well, Ajan,
that is it. I don't think we'll be back next week.
You never know what could break. But in speaking of that,
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