Speaker 1: Oh, oh, guess what day it is? Guess what day
Speaker 1: it is? Huh anybody, It's hump Day.
Speaker 2: Day?
Speaker 3: What a game?
Speaker 1: O Tega?
Speaker 4: Oh way, bonus shot in the air, got it?
Speaker 3: What a game?
Speaker 5: Seventy seven, seventy two Kentucky passed them in court.
Speaker 2: Canipples long one is no good.
Speaker 1: The old guys rule, you can't lay it up.
Speaker 5: Tunny seventy seven, Duke seventy two.
Speaker 4: How about that, Goose Gibbons.
Speaker 3: Not a bad way to start a hump day. Welcome
Speaker 3: to the Big bloom and Sider. Dick Gabriel with you
Speaker 3: on a Wednesday, And this day actually began in the
Speaker 3: wee hours because by the time the UK Radio network
Speaker 3: got off the air, it was already Wednesday. But I
Speaker 3: was happy to stay up. I know some of you did,
Speaker 3: some of you couldn't, So we're gonna help you out.
Speaker 3: We're gonna play some of the highlights from the radio
Speaker 3: CA I know a lot of you were watching TV.
Speaker 3: I always urge you to use both years radio for
Speaker 3: one TV for another. But boy, Tom and Jack had
Speaker 3: such a great time, and I always try to remind
Speaker 3: myself that Jack Gibbings finished his career with a win
Speaker 3: over the Duke Blue Devils, but last night it was
Speaker 3: an era marker from Mark Pope. No pun intended, but
Speaker 3: I'll take it, so will he. This is a game
Speaker 3: that Kentucky fans will remember for a long long time.
Speaker 3: Sold the Wildcats, but then they're gonna have to put
Speaker 3: in the back of their mind as they start to
Speaker 3: work on their next one, which comes up on Tuesday.
Speaker 3: But let's go back to last night, to a game
Speaker 3: that saw the Wildcats struggle in the first half to
Speaker 3: stop Duke to score. But in the second half, Kentucky,
Speaker 3: using defense and rebounding and better offensive execution, kept chopping
Speaker 3: away at it and the Cats down seventy sixty nine.
Speaker 3: Look to Andrew Carr, who got a driving layup in
Speaker 3: the paint and won.
Speaker 5: In your car at top of the circuit, who goes
Speaker 5: over to his left that comes back to his right,
Speaker 5: goes down deep pump, fake goes up hands cart.
Speaker 1: All the veteran car school.
Speaker 3: The Duke rookie is traditional three point play makes it
Speaker 3: seventy two to seventy. Duke ties it up at seventy
Speaker 3: two after kerk Crease have missed on a long shot.
Speaker 3: The Blue Devils go to Cooper Flag naturally, but otega
Speaker 3: Oway had other ideas.
Speaker 5: Flag drives down the left side, spins back to his
Speaker 5: right hand. It's knocked the way it stolen by ah
Speaker 5: Way oh wait drive, So the bucket gets knocked down
Speaker 5: and found with ten seconds to play.
Speaker 3: He simply stepped in and took the ball away, hit
Speaker 3: a couple of free throws, and then it was Duke's
Speaker 3: turn to try to come back and tie the game up.
Speaker 3: But Flag made another mistake in the corner with Amari
Speaker 3: Williams all over him.
Speaker 5: They get it up to Flag at mid court. Flags
Speaker 5: takes it down the left side, almost falls down in
Speaker 5: the corners.
Speaker 6: A brown.
Speaker 1: Five seconds to play. Now they're gonna look at it Tom.
Speaker 3: They did look at it Jack gibbings, but he was
Speaker 3: out of bound. So now it's Kentucky's ball. Lamont Butler fouled,
Speaker 3: goes to the line, hits one, makes it a three
Speaker 3: point game. Now he's got a chance to put it
Speaker 3: out at of reach. But if he misses, Duke can
Speaker 3: grab the ball, go down with you know, five seconds left,
Speaker 3: and break Kentucky's heart with a three pointer and tie
Speaker 3: the thing and send it into overtime, but once again
Speaker 3: o Way stepped up.
Speaker 5: Shots all the way, got it ted center bod nothing
Speaker 5: but the bottom Eddy.
Speaker 1: Make it four.
Speaker 5: Bonus shot bounces off o Good, rebounded by al Way
Speaker 5: always got it, gribbles out beyond the arc and he
Speaker 5: gets found with point funds. Oh Way got the office.
Speaker 1: And thrown oh boy, oh oh oh Way.
Speaker 3: What the last few seconds he had for the Wildcats.
Speaker 3: What a game for Kentucky, and what a game for
Speaker 3: the Big Moe nation here in the Mark Pope era.
Speaker 3: And this is what Pope had to say to ESPN
Speaker 3: coming off the floor right after the game.
Speaker 7: I'm really proud of our guys. You know, it's our
Speaker 7: first half was pretty shaky. We had a lot of
Speaker 7: things that felt a little weird tonight. But they're just
Speaker 7: fighting spirit just continue to come through. And I know
Speaker 7: that sounds so cliche, but in these games, when you
Speaker 7: have two great teams going against each other, it comes
Speaker 7: down to the connective tissue of the team, and it
Speaker 7: comes down to like all the little extra stuff, and
Speaker 7: our guys just kept bounding. I was most proud of
Speaker 7: their resilience with their emotion. Their emotion was recredibly resilient,
Speaker 7: everybody on the roster contributed, and so Otega makes a
Speaker 7: huge play. In fact, we talked about it walking on floors,
Speaker 7: like it's time for you to make a big time
Speaker 7: defensive play, and he delivered like he normally does.
Speaker 2: Well, it all starts with you, coach big time and
Speaker 2: you just beat number six Duke in your third ever
Speaker 2: game coach in Kentucky.
Speaker 1: How do you feel right now?
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing is that.
Speaker 7: I've learned in the last few years that this is
Speaker 7: actually not about me at all. If it's about me,
Speaker 7: it's too much and it's too big. It's about these boys.
Speaker 7: It's about BBN. It's about these guys coming and competing,
Speaker 7: these guys dreaming of being wearing a Kentucky jersey one day,
Speaker 7: never thinking they would, and actually being here now and
Speaker 7: doing it and being in this game.
Speaker 1: That's what makes this special.
Speaker 7: I just get to observe and watch and that's pretty great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he does a heck of a lot more than
Speaker 3: observe and watch. He did a great job preparing this team,
Speaker 3: scouting Duke, knowing Super Flag's tendencies. How that helped his
Speaker 3: players make those defensive plays down the stretch, and it
Speaker 3: wasn't just him. He'll be the first to tell you.
Speaker 3: It was his staff, his assistants who helped prepare. They're
Speaker 3: the ones who break down the video and then put
Speaker 3: it all together and help the Wildcats pull off this upset.
Speaker 3: And it was Indeed, Duke was a favorite. And we
Speaker 3: know that Duke right now has the greatest freshman class
Speaker 3: in the country. But Kentucky has the most experienced team
Speaker 3: in the country, and two of the most experienced players
Speaker 3: will take away. And Andrew Carr talked to the media
Speaker 3: after the game and talked about, you know, what it
Speaker 3: was like to represent Kentucky in a game like this
Speaker 3: and what it took to come back against the Blue Devils. First,
Speaker 3: it'll take a oway and then Andrew.
Speaker 8: Carr were in Kentucky in your chest. You just have
Speaker 8: to carry yourself a certain way, and you know that
Speaker 8: you're not just playing for yourself, You're playing for a
Speaker 8: whole nation. You're playing for your brothers. So that makes
Speaker 8: a dream to play for Kentucky. And the fact that
Speaker 8: I'm here, and in fact that A C's here, I
Speaker 8: know it just makes everyone to play harder. So I
Speaker 8: would say that just wearing a Kentucky Jersey definitely makes
Speaker 8: you want to go out there and play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would agree with Otega, And I'd also
Speaker 2: just talk about just the team that we have in
Speaker 2: general too, is just so talented, and something that we
Speaker 2: always talk about as a team is just you know,
Speaker 2: our run or whatever it is. You know, we're looking
Speaker 2: for that that Djenga block to fall. You know, We're
Speaker 2: just gonna keep coming at you guys. We're gonna keep
Speaker 2: coming at you guys throughout the game over and over
Speaker 2: and over again until you know we go on that
Speaker 2: run or come come back and you know, are able
Speaker 2: to make impact on the game.
Speaker 3: Practically everybody who played last night for the Wildcats had
Speaker 3: an impact on the game. One guy who just could
Speaker 3: not get started with Jackson Robinson zero for four git
Speaker 3: a free throw, did have a couple of block shots.
Speaker 3: Now when he was on the floor started played twenty
Speaker 3: six and a half minutes. Duke had to be aware
Speaker 3: of him. Duke had to shave defense toward him and
Speaker 3: expend energy guarding him. But not a lot happened for
Speaker 3: Jackson Robinson. But you know what, it didn't matter. I
Speaker 3: mean you know that by now with Kentucky going ten
Speaker 3: deep last night. One freshman got in and it was
Speaker 3: Colin Chandler. He only played a couple of minutes, almost
Speaker 3: had two passes knocked away or or picked off. He
Speaker 3: just really seemed like he was nervous, kind of out
Speaker 3: of place. But I wondered if the veterans on this
Speaker 3: team would get off to a good start or maybe
Speaker 3: get blown away a little bit by the moment. Well,
Speaker 3: the answer was the former. They got off to a
Speaker 3: good start, as you saw, hit a bunch of three pointers,
Speaker 3: couldn't get much done in the paint because of Duke's
Speaker 3: size and defense, but ultimately the Wildcats figured it out
Speaker 3: and outscored Duke forty to twenty six in the second half,
Speaker 3: even though Kentucky only hit forty three point eight percent
Speaker 3: in the second half, but the Wildcats held Duke to
Speaker 3: twenty nine point four percent, maybe more importantly, one of
Speaker 3: eleven from beyond the arc, and Duke missed four out
Speaker 3: of nine free throws in the second half. So Duke
Speaker 3: did not execute in the second period and Kentucky did
Speaker 3: not perfect, not pretty, but way good enough to handle Duke.
Speaker 3: And this I believe will be and you know, this
Speaker 3: the kind of game we see all year, or maybe
Speaker 3: Kentucky doesn't shoot entirely well from the outside, or rather
Speaker 3: from the floor. Kentucky hitches forty percent, but hit forty
Speaker 3: percent from three point range, which is great. Overall, not
Speaker 3: so much, but if you back it up with ten
Speaker 3: out of twenty five from beyond the arc, you're gonna
Speaker 3: win a lot of games. Out rebound, but only by
Speaker 3: four forty five forty one. Cats got to the line
Speaker 3: more often in the second half, and it's seventeen out
Speaker 3: of twenty four overall Duke overall twelve of seventeen turnovers.
Speaker 3: That was a weird stat Only one turn by the
Speaker 3: Dukes in the first half, and that had a lot
Speaker 3: to do with why the Devils had the lead. Kentucky
Speaker 3: only had I think six second half Wildcats committed only
Speaker 3: four more, finished with ten. So that tells me that Kentucky,
Speaker 3: given the fact that the Cats got to the free
Speaker 3: throw line and forced turnovers from Duke, I thought, was
Speaker 3: in better shape. You know, Duke players started cramping, so
Speaker 3: of course so did Butler, but it was Kentucky executing
Speaker 3: down the stretch. And by the way, seventeen assists on
Speaker 3: twenty five made baskets. I think that's a stat that
Speaker 3: you can look at all year long and it will
Speaker 3: tell you a lot. Coming up tonight at the bottom
Speaker 3: of the hour, we're gonna hear from Sean Woods, the
Speaker 3: Unforgettable Guard. He predicted this win, Yes he did, and
Speaker 3: we're gonna find out why. Our number two, Aaron Gershein
Speaker 3: of the cast Balls, he was in Atlanta's on his
Speaker 3: way back, covered the game. And we're also getting from
Speaker 3: our west end BA achieved Gary Moore because it's Wednesday,
Speaker 3: and that's what we do. After the break, we'll hear
Speaker 3: from the Wildcats. They talked to Jack Gibbons early this morning.
Speaker 3: Well here from Andrew Carr and Brandon Garrison. He had
Speaker 3: a nice game. That's ahead six thirty wlap. Welcome back
Speaker 3: to the Big Bloom Cider. Coming up in just a
Speaker 3: few minutes, Sean Woods, the Unforgettable Guard, will join us
Speaker 3: and tell us why he predicted he did. I've got
Speaker 3: the text message to prove it. He predicted Kentucky would
Speaker 3: beat Duke and had every right to text me, and
Speaker 3: he did after the game. What did I tell you?
Speaker 3: So we'll find out why he did that. In just
Speaker 3: a few minutes, we're gonna check in with Aaron Gershan
Speaker 3: as well. He was not with us on Monday night
Speaker 3: on the State Wide Show because he was already in
Speaker 3: Atlanta where he covered the game for the Cat's Pause.
Speaker 3: On his way back, we will check with him and
Speaker 3: get his thoughts on just a great ball game and
Speaker 3: a great atmosphere down there in Atlanta. And this being Wednesday,
Speaker 3: we will chat with our West End bureau chief Gary
Speaker 3: Moore to look ahead to the weekend and find out
Speaker 3: what is on his mind and on the mind of
Speaker 3: Jack Gibvans after that game last night. You heard in
Speaker 3: our first segment where Jack just kept saying, what a game,
Speaker 3: What a game, And it really was entertaining. And I
Speaker 3: always remind myself that Jack's last game in the Kentucky
Speaker 3: uniform was against Duke in the National title game in
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy eight. And I'm not a Duke hater. I
Speaker 3: know a lot of you are because of what happened
Speaker 3: in ninety two. But that was a team doing his job,
Speaker 3: a player doing his job, and a coach doing his
Speaker 3: job and Kentucky fall in one play short and as
Speaker 3: we mentioned last night, Wildcats got revenge, maybe not enough,
Speaker 3: but got a good measure revenge in nineteen ninety eight
Speaker 3: by keeping Duke from the final four, going itself and
Speaker 3: winning a national title. That's pretty good payback if you
Speaker 3: asked me. But the Wildcats last night turned things around
Speaker 3: in a remarkable way. And one of the key performers
Speaker 3: you heard him in seventy number one was Andrew Carr,
Speaker 3: and he chatted with Jack Gibbings in our post game show.
Speaker 2: Certainly a team I first, especially you talk about Taylor
Speaker 2: two has the second half. We I think held them
Speaker 2: in the twenties defensively, you know, that was our biggest thing.
Speaker 2: Our offense flows and does the best when we're getting stops.
Speaker 2: You know we're gonna be able to get out in transition,
Speaker 2: and we really feel like ourselves when we're getting stopped.
Speaker 2: So I thought everybody really stepped up physicality wise in
Speaker 2: the second half, really didn't let them do exactly what
Speaker 2: they wanted to do. And yeah, man, I'm now three
Speaker 2: and two against the dude, ye, so come on, that
Speaker 2: was the rubber match and a lot.
Speaker 4: Of people can't say that they're that's what they are.
Speaker 1: I can't let you.
Speaker 4: Off the hook that easy about the second half and
Speaker 4: the physicality you guys played with because frankly, in the
Speaker 4: first half, I thought, particularly in the pain, they pushed
Speaker 4: you all around a little bit and kind of did
Speaker 4: what they want wanted. But Maya Williams sets the screen,
Speaker 4: knocks the dude down to the floor, and he doesn't
Speaker 4: get back up, get back in the game, and didn't
Speaker 4: get back in the game.
Speaker 1: And that seems too.
Speaker 4: It seemed to me that that kind of fueled you
Speaker 4: guys and got.
Speaker 2: You going, yeah, no, definitely. You know, I'm already does
Speaker 2: a great job. You know, that's a legal screen and
Speaker 2: and that's what we do. We we play with the
Speaker 2: legality of the game, and you're gonna feel us. So
Speaker 2: I think it was really cool to be able to
Speaker 2: rally around that moment just come together, you know, as
Speaker 2: we talk about all the time, coming closer together as
Speaker 2: a team and really digging into each other, lifting each
Speaker 2: other up and being able to fight, you know, turn
Speaker 2: our frustration a lot frustration going on that first half,
Speaker 2: so turn that into some fight in the second half
Speaker 2: and and really were able to connect.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: One of the things I've picked up on and I
Speaker 4: really like about this team is how much patting on
Speaker 4: the back there he is and encouraging teammates. Man, just
Speaker 4: stay with and stay with it. I see you guys
Speaker 4: getting a huddle on. It's like you guys are just
Speaker 4: encouraging each other. Stay with it, stay with them. That's
Speaker 4: got to be a good feeling to be on that
Speaker 4: kind of team.
Speaker 2: It's amazing.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: We talk about our banter behaviors, and that's one of them.
Speaker 2: You know, it's you know, you score, you point at
Speaker 2: the assist, man, you get an assists, you're pointing at
Speaker 2: the guy. You're you're clapping on the bench for your teammates.
Speaker 1: You're you know, you're you're bringing energy.
Speaker 2: Coach Pope talks about the energy of the team is
Speaker 2: really important for us, and you know we we try
Speaker 2: and check in on our teammates energies all the time.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: And if someone's you know, a little bit low, we
Speaker 2: got to bring them up. And know that when I'm
Speaker 2: gonna when I'm gonna be low, someone else is going
Speaker 2: to bring me up. So it's really cool to be
Speaker 2: a part of the team like that.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 4: One more thing before I let you go, I know,
Speaker 4: you need to get a shower. One of the real
Speaker 4: concerns about this team was well, two things. What kind
Speaker 4: of defensive team where you go out gonna be? When
Speaker 4: you offensively you could do a lot of stuff. But
Speaker 4: are you surprised that you've got you guys have come
Speaker 4: together defensively as quick as you have.
Speaker 2: No. I was actually you know, being able to be
Speaker 2: in the you know, we're practicing against each other every
Speaker 2: day and in the summer, I was like, man, we
Speaker 2: we have a really good chance of being a great
Speaker 2: defensive team.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I think you know.
Speaker 2: If you look at it, we might not always be
Speaker 2: you know, the best individual defenders. But that's a team
Speaker 2: game for a reason, you know. And and for us
Speaker 2: to be able to to play team defense for we're
Speaker 2: an elite team defensive team. And and you know we're
Speaker 2: able to show that in the second half. And and
Speaker 2: I think you know, that's gonna be uh their cornerstone.
Speaker 1: Of our team.
Speaker 2: You know, even though you talk about the offense and
Speaker 2: the whole time a lot of drawing to our offense,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be our defense that's gonna help us win.
Speaker 3: That's Andrew Carr with Jack Gibbons last night on the
Speaker 3: UK Network in the early morning hours. I should say,
Speaker 3: and Jack also talked with Brandon Garrison. Jack had a
Speaker 3: lot of time to fill, so did Andrew as they
Speaker 3: waited for Tom to finally get a chance to talk
Speaker 3: to Mark Pope and send the interview back. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it was Brandon Garrison coming off the bench seventeen and
Speaker 3: a half minutes four to five from the field for
Speaker 3: eight points, four rebounds, two block shots. He was huge,
Speaker 3: and he talked with Jack after the game about just
Speaker 3: what it took to come back and put this thing together.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, like you said, just a huge win everybody.
Speaker 9: I'm just scrolling on social media. Everybody down to us.
Speaker 9: You know, Coach Totters don't pay attention to it, but
Speaker 9: you know it's all over the media came miss it.
Speaker 3: But I feel like.
Speaker 9: My team started off slow, but then we just stuck
Speaker 9: with it. Coach said, just keep sticking with it, and
Speaker 9: the outcome was amazing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a time there when boy getting points
Speaker 4: was just a struggle for Kentucky. Duke goes up ten
Speaker 4: points and you're sitting there thinking, man, where's the Basket's
Speaker 4: gonna basket gonna come from? Kerb makes the three, Oh
Speaker 4: the way makes the three, and all of a sudden
Speaker 4: Kentucky's on a roll and you get back in the game.
Speaker 4: I want to talk to a little bit about this
Speaker 4: team on defense. A lot of people wondering what kind
Speaker 4: of defensive team that's gonna be. Man, you guys can
Speaker 4: defend this.
Speaker 9: Or you know, Coach b I mean Coach ab R
Speaker 9: defensive coach just always telling us to get killed. You know,
Speaker 9: everybody just think we're offensive team, but they doubt us
Speaker 9: on the defensive end. You know, in practice we're getting
Speaker 9: after it and all that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, talk to me about it. Kill. What is that
Speaker 1: for folks who.
Speaker 4: Don't know exactly what a kill might be?
Speaker 9: Or so a kill is just like when you get
Speaker 9: three stops in a row that equals one kill.
Speaker 4: Oh man, yep, so you got a.
Speaker 1: Number of those.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 4: Duke struggled after their offense looked really good, they started
Speaker 4: struggle and you guys got it. You know, this is
Speaker 4: the kind of game. I think everyone who's here came
Speaker 4: to Kentucky for.
Speaker 1: The Dukes, the.
Speaker 4: The Alabama's, you know, the arkansass all of those kind
Speaker 4: of games. Is what you guys wanted talk to me
Speaker 4: a little bit about just being here and the bigness
Speaker 4: of Kentucky and what it means the big Blue Nation, sir.
Speaker 9: Like you said, I couldn't imagine myself here. It's just
Speaker 9: amazing to be here. You know. It's a big, big
Speaker 9: thing on all our shoulders, all our teammates, and she's
Speaker 9: got to play for the laders across my chest.
Speaker 4: It's nice to have veterans on the team, guys you
Speaker 4: can look up to who have been in every situation.
Speaker 4: And one thing I noticed a lot is everybody patting
Speaker 4: you on the back since stay with the big fella,
Speaker 4: stay with it. That has to be good too.
Speaker 9: Like you said, I'm a I wouldn't say I'm a rookie,
Speaker 9: but now about you're young, young, yes, sir, But it's
Speaker 9: a whole bunch of vetters out there, like Amar getting
Speaker 9: after in practice, telling me all the little things. You know,
Speaker 9: if I'm out there playing so he telling me pick
Speaker 9: it up, start playing so soft, and I think that
Speaker 9: motivates me.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Now you have a week off before your next game.
Speaker 4: A lot of times you win a game like this,
Speaker 4: you want to get right back at it. Man, You
Speaker 4: want to go and see who the next opponent is.
Speaker 1: But sometimes it's.
Speaker 4: Good to enjoy a victory like this for a couple
Speaker 4: of days, come back to the work, come back to work,
Speaker 4: and regroup in the gym. Is that kind of the
Speaker 4: plan for you all over the next.
Speaker 9: Week, Yes, sir, you know, we go go home, celebrate
Speaker 9: our little off day, and then once the practice, we
Speaker 9: forget about this new game. We're about our next opponent.
Speaker 3: That's Brandon Garrison with Jack Gibbings. And when we come back,
Speaker 3: Sean Woods, the Unforgettable Guard, will tell us why he
Speaker 3: said they're going to do it back in a minute,
Speaker 3: six thirty wlap Welcome back to the Big Boon. So
Speaker 3: joining us now in our celebrity hotline is our unforgettable Guard,
Speaker 3: Sean Woods, his jersey hangs in the rafters. Rup visits
Speaker 3: with us every Wednesday. But he checked in with me
Speaker 3: yesterday prior to the Duke Kentucky game and texted me this,
Speaker 3: I'm predicting a Kentucky upset. Coach, you were right, and
Speaker 3: this was not an emotional call either. This was you,
Speaker 3: as a coach and a guy who knows the game
Speaker 3: inside out, predicting a lot of things would happen.
Speaker 1: Tell me why you did that. You're pretty bold.
Speaker 6: Well, I got a chance to watch Duke their first
Speaker 6: two games, and I've been watching Kentucky of course, and
Speaker 6: then you know, I've been going to practice more often
Speaker 6: here lately, and I just saw Flaws and Duke from
Speaker 6: a maturity standpoint that.
Speaker 10: That intrigued me.
Speaker 6: You know, one thing about Kentucky, as you saw last
Speaker 6: night and everybody else got to see, was no matter
Speaker 6: how talented these teams are in the country, I think
Speaker 6: Kentucky's ahead of the curve as far as continuity and
Speaker 6: playing with each other and knowing everybody's roles. You know,
Speaker 6: everybody all these other teams are still trying to figure
Speaker 6: it out with either newcomers or transfers, and they're trying
Speaker 6: to jail whereas Mark Pope's system and what they've been
Speaker 6: doing since the summer, they're so far ahead of everybody
Speaker 6: right now. And you know, everybody who played for Kentucky
Speaker 6: last night contributed in some type of way. Yeah, there
Speaker 6: was not the only person who just couldn't get it
Speaker 6: going is jack and Robinson and Kentucky show last night
Speaker 6: that they could win at a high level without the
Speaker 6: person who everybody thinks is their best player.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and didn't Jackson Robinson just his presence force
Speaker 3: Duke to adjust its defense a little bit and account
Speaker 3: for him, which left other people opportunities to do things.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, but you know, the thing about it
Speaker 6: was that that I wasn't impressed with with him was
Speaker 6: he didn't compete like I wanted him to, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, No, I really don't think, you know.
Speaker 6: And and you know last night they were better with
Speaker 6: him off the floor than on the floor. He just
Speaker 6: couldn't get a rhythm. I think, you know, his flaw is,
Speaker 6: you know, if you get up in him, he has trouble,
Speaker 6: you know, as long as he can can make open shots.
Speaker 6: And I think it's you know, because of the frustrations
Speaker 6: and how the game went, he had a couple of
Speaker 6: times to hit daggers to either put Kentucky up or
Speaker 6: whatever wide up and jump shots that he has made
Speaker 6: thus far, and they weren't even close. So what I'm
Speaker 6: saying is this is a veteran team and a glue
Speaker 6: team already and we're just now getting started. I'm just
Speaker 6: amazed and really looking forward to how good this team
Speaker 6: could be. You know what I'm saying as days go on.
Speaker 6: I mean, they're so far of what I thought, it's
Speaker 6: not even funny. And I'm watching all these other schools
Speaker 6: play with all this talent, you know, the Michigan State
Speaker 6: the Kansas game was like watching paint dry.
Speaker 3: You know, it is terrible in.
Speaker 6: The style of play. I thought even enhanced Duke, even
Speaker 6: though Duke did have the best player on the floor
Speaker 6: in Cooper Flag, but he was still seventeen years old.
Speaker 6: And like I told you the other day, what impresses
Speaker 6: me and why I think of Texan win this game
Speaker 6: because of their experience and it prevailed last night.
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the game and halftime.
Speaker 3: Kentucky's down nine had taken an early lead, but Duke
Speaker 3: was beating it up in the paint. Wildcats were staying
Speaker 3: in it via the three pointer. But Duke could only
Speaker 3: turn the ball over once. And you're a guy who
Speaker 3: loves great defense from point guard on down, That to
Speaker 3: me was the most surprising stat of all. And I
Speaker 3: wondered how Kentucky would be able to increase that pressure
Speaker 3: in the second half, but it did.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm gonna say again, I just think that experience
Speaker 6: prevails because Kentucky stayed with what they did. You know
Speaker 6: what I mean, They didn't go outside of who they are,
Speaker 6: whereas Duke had to make miraculous plays every single time.
Speaker 6: And and what really impressed me about Kentucky, which has
Speaker 6: been a question thus far, is could they defend? Could
Speaker 6: they rebound well in the second half. That's what got
Speaker 6: them back in the game, to their defense and their
Speaker 6: rebound because in the first half, you know, Duke just
Speaker 6: spread them out and they they isolated key guys, which
Speaker 6: Mark Polker is gonna have to work on that. With
Speaker 6: some guys really giving it giving it in, giving it
Speaker 6: up defensively, I was kind of disappointed in that. That's
Speaker 6: another story, but I just thought from a team standpoint,
Speaker 6: they really buckled down and and and showed their experience.
Speaker 6: Because you gotta remember, now with this team, you you
Speaker 6: just got two transfers who were the defensive player of
Speaker 6: the years in.
Speaker 1: Their counter.
Speaker 6: So that's just say a lot. So it's not like
Speaker 6: you don't have the potential, but there's a couple of
Speaker 6: guys on your team that just didn't give it up
Speaker 6: like I wanted to, and you took them out and
Speaker 6: that's why you were able to overcome the deficit that
Speaker 6: you did that you had last night.
Speaker 3: How surprise, were you that he went small, although that's
Speaker 3: a relative term because Andrew Carr six with ten. But
Speaker 3: the two guys McGuire used to call aircraft carriers. They
Speaker 3: were on a bench when Kentucky was doing good things
Speaker 3: exactly exactly.
Speaker 6: And then also throw it in, throw this in too.
Speaker 6: Duke went down when the big fellow went down. You know,
Speaker 6: that took that took away their defensive presence. You know,
Speaker 6: that was that was what made the blow for them
Speaker 6: because he was the rim protector. He's, you know, the
Speaker 6: defensive guy. And then once he went out what's the
Speaker 6: transfers name from wake forward for us, car car really
Speaker 6: got going. Yeah, so you know, kudos to us. And
Speaker 6: you know it's the bible of the fitter. So you
Speaker 6: can't feel sorry for people cramping, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: that's part of the game. And then and it also
Speaker 6: goes with what experience. And I thought Mark Polk was
Speaker 6: Michaelangelo and the way he the way he subbed. But
Speaker 6: we know now that the two guys, the kid from
Speaker 6: Oklahoma State, the kid from Oklahoma and the kid from
Speaker 6: from San Diego State cannot be off the court at
Speaker 6: the same time.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you made it. You made a great quest,
Speaker 3: You made a great point about miraculous plays, and I
Speaker 3: felt like it was Kentucky And Billis pointed this out.
Speaker 3: Kentucky had to work so hard for its buckets in
Speaker 3: the first half and Duke was getting everything in a
Speaker 3: rhythm and a flow, and in the second half it
Speaker 3: was the exact opposite, wasn't it.
Speaker 10: Yes, it was.
Speaker 6: You know, Duke did a good job of exploring Kentucky's
Speaker 6: deal about switching, so they made Kentucky struggle. I think
Speaker 6: that's gonna be a lot of other teams are gonna
Speaker 6: look at that tape and be like, Okay, forget chasing,
Speaker 6: We're just gonna switch everything and be there on the
Speaker 6: catch and make them settle for twos. Well, it kind
Speaker 6: of worked in Duke's favor until the big fellow went out,
Speaker 6: and then also Kentucky just stayed the course and other
Speaker 6: people stepped up. And that's the sign of a good
Speaker 6: basketball team. You know you're not relying on one person.
Speaker 6: I mean, everybody participated in that win last night, that
Speaker 6: plate except for Jackson Robinson. And you know that he's
Speaker 6: not gonna have a lot of games like that.
Speaker 3: Now. He'll make this game work for him. You mentioned
Speaker 3: a couple times already, Cooper Flag, and you mentioned him
Speaker 3: before we went on the air as we were getting
Speaker 3: as we were preparing. He is just as seventeen sean.
Speaker 3: He is so well beyond his years.
Speaker 1: Yet he made.
Speaker 3: A couple of clutch mistakes down the stretch. But man,
Speaker 3: can you imagine what this kid's gonna be like in March.
Speaker 6: I mean it's like, I mean, he's unbelievable, you know,
Speaker 6: he he But you know we saw that when he
Speaker 6: when he went against the Olympic team and all those pros,
Speaker 6: and you know they were saying that he was probably
Speaker 6: the second best player on the floor. Yeah, at that time,
Speaker 6: you know, he showed how good he is.
Speaker 10: But at the end of the.
Speaker 6: Day, you can't teach experience.
Speaker 10: You just can't. And that's what happened last night.
Speaker 6: Experience overcame, every overcame, talent overcame everything else. Because this
Speaker 6: kid is the number one player in the country. He's
Speaker 6: gonna be the number one draft pick in the country.
Speaker 6: And he made two of the most bonehead plays last
Speaker 6: night that costed him the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had the ball taken away from him and
Speaker 3: then he turned the ball over in the corner, or
Speaker 3: when the point guard should have had the ball anyway.
Speaker 10: Right, exactly exactly, Yeah, went.
Speaker 3: In doubt, go to the point guard, right, Coach.
Speaker 10: Went in doubt.
Speaker 6: Give it to the man and let him orchustrate it.
Speaker 3: It's not your job, spoken like a true point guard.
Speaker 3: Here is Sean Woods, the unforgettable guard, and we'll talk more.
Speaker 3: Basketball was shown on the other side of the break
Speaker 3: here on the Big Moon Sider six thirty wlap Welcome back.
Speaker 3: We're talking with unforgettable guard Sean Woods. He predicted Kentucky's
Speaker 3: win over Duke and I have the text message to
Speaker 3: prove it. Experience over immaturity. Sean predicted, that is exactly
Speaker 3: what happened. Let me ask you this as a guy
Speaker 3: with a lot of experience as a coach and a player.
Speaker 3: There's gonna be another week before this team plays.
Speaker 1: Is that a good thing?
Speaker 3: Or would you rather if you were I know, if
Speaker 3: you're a player, you want to get right back at it.
Speaker 3: If you're a coach, are you good with having the
Speaker 3: weekend off or would you want your team back on
Speaker 3: the floor in two or three days?
Speaker 6: Man, if I'm a coach, I get to teach more
Speaker 6: and go over all the stuff that we didn't do
Speaker 6: well after a win against Duke.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 6: You can't. You know what I'm saying. You can't bottle
Speaker 6: that up. I mean, timing is as a vessence. Just
Speaker 6: think if we have lost, then he would have really
Speaker 6: been wanting to play the next game. But man, the
Speaker 6: savage on this kind of you know, relish in the
Speaker 6: accomplishment that I mean, even though it's just the third
Speaker 6: game of the year. But as we all know, there's
Speaker 6: been a big question mark on this team. How would
Speaker 6: they respond against somebody who's really really good and they
Speaker 6: I just you know, I think they deserve to relish
Speaker 6: in the fruits of their labor from last night for
Speaker 6: a few days. But only not only that.
Speaker 10: You can get.
Speaker 6: Back into laugh and get better after a big win
Speaker 6: like that. So I think they're going to be that
Speaker 6: much better because of the you know, the mistakes that
Speaker 6: they made last night. They'll be able to overcome them
Speaker 6: in a few days. I think time is perfect. I
Speaker 6: think you can't get no better than this, you know.
Speaker 6: I think they're going to be that much better the
Speaker 6: next game.
Speaker 3: Because of their maturity. It's not going to go to
Speaker 3: the head.
Speaker 10: Is it No, and he's not gonna let him.
Speaker 11: You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: What he's what he's doing is I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 6: what he's doing is he's got a where he wants
Speaker 6: some guys, if you believe in me, this is what
Speaker 6: can happen.
Speaker 10: You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: There's nobody wavering right now. You mean, after a loss,
Speaker 6: you still question yourself after a win. Everything he's been preaching,
Speaker 6: not only to his team but to the commonwealth. It's big,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So let's relative in the
Speaker 6: Kentucky fans because it's been a long time. Let's let's
Speaker 6: enjoy the few days before we get back at it
Speaker 6: again and give every you know, radio show, whatever, a
Speaker 6: few days to really relative what just happened last night.
Speaker 3: Every every website, every Twitter account. You mentioned something earlier
Speaker 3: about switching on defense, and it's.
Speaker 1: Interesting to me.
Speaker 3: Some coaches like it, some will take it when they
Speaker 3: can get it and leave it.
Speaker 1: When they need to.
Speaker 3: How are you about switching on defense or or fighting
Speaker 3: through screens things like that?
Speaker 1: Did it depends on who you we're playing.
Speaker 3: Is there one particular mode of thought that we need
Speaker 3: to remember when we're watching this team play defense.
Speaker 6: Let me tell you something. I worked for a guy
Speaker 6: named Ronnie Arrow when I was at Texan and Corpus Christian.
Speaker 6: He was a big time junior college coach and big
Speaker 6: time coach period, one of the most underrated coaches in America.
Speaker 6: He switched everything. And if you go back and watch
Speaker 6: my teams, and my ball has been great defensively, I
Speaker 6: switched one through five.
Speaker 10: Most of the time.
Speaker 6: I may give up a pick and roll action to
Speaker 6: where the big my point guard is on the big,
Speaker 6: but how many times you're gonna score that way? I'm
Speaker 6: not giving up anything. You're not beating me with your offense.
Speaker 6: If you're gonna beat me, that means that you got
Speaker 6: better players than I got and I can't guard you
Speaker 6: one on one. But she alleviates all that, and I
Speaker 6: think for me personally, that's the only way, you know,
Speaker 6: And it worked for me against Rick Bert, who was
Speaker 6: a magician at this type of offense, who's at at
Speaker 6: at Belmont, and my switching gave him problems. And that's
Speaker 6: the only thing that will give this team, especially if
Speaker 6: you have five at every position, where your your guard
Speaker 6: is strong enough and tough enough to fight and give
Speaker 6: you and give your guards time against your big So
Speaker 6: that's what gave Kentucky problems. I just think offensively, Duke
Speaker 6: made some mistakes down the stretch. They made they had
Speaker 6: open shots that they didn't make. But when the big
Speaker 6: fellow went out that that turned the table for everything.
Speaker 6: And then Kentucky, just being Kentucky from an experience standpoint,
Speaker 6: just stayed the course, stayed the course, and at the
Speaker 6: end of the game, experience prevailed. And I think that's
Speaker 6: going to be a lot for this team this season.
Speaker 3: You mentioned the cramping, and when you're missing shots down
Speaker 3: the stretch, oftentimes you're left he said, left you, or
Speaker 3: they're just getting a little shaky. He's think Kentucky's depth
Speaker 3: and conditioning paid off.
Speaker 6: It sure did, and it showed last night.
Speaker 10: It showed.
Speaker 6: He played ten guys last night. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 6: you're right, he played ten guys. Okay, not one of
Speaker 6: them called cramps except.
Speaker 1: For Butler a little briefly.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, but that, you know, Butler getting in
Speaker 6: foul trouble kind of saved him from fatigue standpoint too. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you know, he gave him another, you know, apical time
Speaker 6: to rest because if he's not in foul trouble, he's
Speaker 6: got to play at least thirty thirty two minutes for
Speaker 6: us a game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he only ended up playing twenty four, But like
Speaker 3: you say, it was fresh down the stretch a few
Speaker 3: minutes up for Sean Woods, the unforgettable guard who predicted
Speaker 3: Kentucky's went over Duke night at halftime. But the day
Speaker 3: before and again I had the text message to prove it.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 3: And we're talking, of course, about the way Kentucky came
Speaker 3: back and came back from a halftime stat showing I
Speaker 3: thought was really weird. It only turned Duke over once,
Speaker 3: and Duke ended up with seven turnovers, six in the
Speaker 3: second half. But Kentucky protected the ball well, only ten
Speaker 3: turns for the entire game. That says a lot, doesn't it.
Speaker 10: It does say a lot.
Speaker 6: And you gotta remember now, I'm gonna say again, experienced
Speaker 6: down the stretch. Duke is a very talented team. I
Speaker 6: think they're one of the most talented teams in America.
Speaker 6: But experience prevailed the last six minutes five minutes of
Speaker 6: that game when it got real tight. That's when Duke
Speaker 6: turned the ball over because they were trying to do
Speaker 6: too much. Kentucky tightened up the rains a little bit.
Speaker 6: Those driving lanes we wasn't as open as they were.
Speaker 6: And I'll tell you what too. From a defensive standpoint,
Speaker 6: some of those guys just looked themselves in the mirror
Speaker 6: and said, hey, you not taking me. And that's what
Speaker 6: happened too. Yeah, you know some of those guys, I
Speaker 6: just sat down and say, hey, I'm gonna guard. I'm
Speaker 6: gonna give you everything I got and make it tough.
Speaker 6: And just Cooper Flagg just started to overdribble because he
Speaker 6: just couldn't get B line drives anymore.
Speaker 10: And look what happened.
Speaker 3: I got a couple of minutes left and I got
Speaker 3: to ask you about this. I'm sure you heard about
Speaker 3: or saw the story about Auburn on its way to
Speaker 3: a game, had a couple of players engaged in a fistfight.
Speaker 3: They had to turn the plane around and drop off
Speaker 3: at least one, maybe two guys before they went and played.
Speaker 1: And they won the game.
Speaker 3: But as a head coach, I don't know how many
Speaker 3: times you all flew. I'm sure you rode more buses
Speaker 3: where you were, but.
Speaker 1: I mean, is that all that unusual?
Speaker 3: And how do you handle something like that as a
Speaker 3: head coach.
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, I've had to miss this, but
Speaker 6: we weren't on a plane. You know, I don't know
Speaker 6: what happened, you know what I'm saying. You know, I can't.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not asking any to judge the situation,
Speaker 3: but as a head coach.
Speaker 6: At yeah, it's it's very unfortunate, it is, you know.
Speaker 6: And I was talking to some of the assistants at Kentucky.
Speaker 6: They're just amazed at the person there that they've allowed,
Speaker 6: that they that they brought on to this program.
Speaker 10: They don't have.
Speaker 6: One bad seed like that. That's rare. I'm just being honest.
Speaker 6: You know, you look at this team you can go
Speaker 6: watch in practice. I never see one person. I've never
Speaker 6: seen one person have a bad day. I've never seen
Speaker 6: that before. I've never seen a person show bad attitude
Speaker 6: when a coach says something to him. But that's predicated
Speaker 6: to Mark because how how his positive approach has been affected.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: But when you got those type of players, you can
Speaker 6: stay positive with me. You know, I was trying to
Speaker 6: get those that type of talent. But that was the
Speaker 6: reason why at my level, while I was getting that
Speaker 6: type of talent because some of those kids would have
Speaker 6: a baggage. So I had to do two things. I
Speaker 6: had to be father pope, I had to be the
Speaker 6: social and I had to be the coach. So you know,
Speaker 6: it's a little different. But when you could just coach
Speaker 6: basketball with no bad avag drama, everybody's coming to work
Speaker 6: every day, that's that is so refreshing, and it's only
Speaker 6: the that's the main recipe for a championship team.
Speaker 3: Coach, always a pleasure, congratulations, only proper prediction, and we'll
Speaker 3: talk more basketball next week.
Speaker 6: People jump on that bandwagon because this team's only gonna
Speaker 6: get better. And I just think right now they're the
Speaker 6: most fluenced team in college basketball. I mean, some of
Speaker 6: these other teams are gonna get better, you know, as
Speaker 6: the year goes on, but right now, today they're the
Speaker 6: most complete basketball team from top to bottom offensemen, defensively,
Speaker 6: and it's only gonna get better.
Speaker 1: Have a good one, coach, Thank you.
Speaker 3: Up next to now number two Aaron Gershawn on his
Speaker 3: way back from Atlanta and Western Bureau chief Garnymore here
Speaker 3: on the Big One Sider sixty manager, Welcome back to
Speaker 3: the Big moll Insider are joining us now.
Speaker 1: As we mentioned Aaron Gershawan.
Speaker 3: Who is on his way back from Atlanta where he
Speaker 3: covered the Wildcats win over Duke. Aaron, tell me first
Speaker 3: about the atmosphere, because just watching that first game, which
Speaker 3: was no good, but it's just built into something, it
Speaker 3: looked like it sounded like pretty spectacular.
Speaker 11: It was, and you know what last year when Kentucky
Speaker 11: played in Atlanta as a CBS Sports Classic, it was
Speaker 11: truly a fifty to fifty split and an incredible atmosphere
Speaker 11: for the Kentucky North Carolina game. This game, i'd put it,
Speaker 11: you know, no disrespect to Duke fans, but it was
Speaker 11: like eighty twenty eighty five to fifteen.
Speaker 10: In favor of Kentucky.
Speaker 11: It was a it felt it felt like rouugh aerna
Speaker 11: at times in that building, and that fan base showed out.
Speaker 11: I mean, they've been dying to win one of these
Speaker 11: Marquee Champions Classics games. It's been a long time since
Speaker 11: they've done it. And you know, the fans, you know,
Speaker 11: certainly did their part to try to dry Kentucky across
Speaker 11: the finish line and get them through some of the
Speaker 11: tough streaks.
Speaker 10: And when they were on the roll. I mean, they
Speaker 10: brought it.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 11: It was an awesome atmosphere in your right. I mean
Speaker 11: the volume in that arena turned up several lotches compared
Speaker 11: to the first game, which, yeah, it was.
Speaker 10: It was a pretty boring game.
Speaker 11: And I think, you know, proximity wise, obviously, Duke and
Speaker 11: Kentucky are a lot closer to Atlanta than than Canton
Speaker 11: in Michigan State are, so I'm sure that had to
Speaker 11: play a role in it as well, but definitely a
Speaker 11: whole different animal for the nightcap.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a reason they call it cat Atlanta, whether
Speaker 3: it's the SEC tournament or a bowl game or a
Speaker 3: Kentucky basketball game. Did you see the fans milling about
Speaker 3: everywhere like you usually do?
Speaker 10: Absolutely? Yeah.
Speaker 11: I stayed about thirty minutes north ployment north of the
Speaker 11: city and saw a couple up there in the Perimeter
Speaker 11: Center area driving into the game that Daryl burn and
Speaker 11: I had to take every back road into Atlanta. You know,
Speaker 11: traffic could be down there, so going through some of
Speaker 11: the back roads in them going into restaurants and stuff. So,
Speaker 11: you know, really cool to see that the fan base
Speaker 11: takeover and they made an impact.
Speaker 3: No doubt, no doubt, And we always joke about how
Speaker 3: the city fathers in Nashville loved to see Kentucky fans
Speaker 3: on the way Atlanta. Quite a bit bigger, but still
Speaker 3: the boost of the economy. Events like that.
Speaker 11: Yeah, they hopefully they opened the bars a little later,
Speaker 11: because that was a I mean, the game did the
Speaker 11: until about eleven thirty.
Speaker 10: But man, that was as fired.
Speaker 11: Up as I've seen the fan base and quite some time.
Speaker 11: And you know what they've been through. I get it
Speaker 11: they've been the last couple of years, you know. I
Speaker 11: know they lost to the Saint Peters into the open,
Speaker 11: but a lot of schools would signed up to be
Speaker 11: a two in a free seat, but at a place
Speaker 11: like Kentucky, the expectations are so much higher. This event,
Speaker 11: in particular, means a lot to all four of the
Speaker 11: fan bases evolved, even if you didn't really see in
Speaker 11: the first game. But Kentucky hadn't won one of those
Speaker 11: games in five years. In twenty nineteen, the Tyrees max
Speaker 11: the game against Michigan State, and they hadn't beat Tooke
Speaker 11: I think since twenty fifteen. Only three times they've beat
Speaker 11: him since he was given So you know, they needed that,
Speaker 11: the fan base needed that in a huge signature win
Speaker 11: there from mar Pope early on.
Speaker 3: Here boy, that tyrees MAXI team I firmly believe would
Speaker 3: have been a Final four team. But uh yeah, let
Speaker 3: us talk about this one. What were your thoughts as
Speaker 3: the first half unfolded, Kentucky surviving on threes, gradually giving
Speaker 3: ground and unable to turn Duke over at times.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I thought they were just and I still thinking
Speaker 11: out to an extent even after the game with a win.
Speaker 11: They were outmanned and out guns from a talent perspective,
Speaker 11: There's no question about it.
Speaker 10: And you know there's use involved that.
Speaker 11: I'm sure we'll get into back conversation in a few
Speaker 11: minutes here, but yeah, it was concerning. I thought Duke
Speaker 11: defensively played outstanding in the first half, and they made
Speaker 11: Kentucky one dimensional, didn't give him anything in the paint.
Speaker 11: The big I can't pronounce this last name, but there's
Speaker 11: seven two freshman center really dominated Amar Williams and Andrew
Speaker 11: Carr in the first half. There was even a moment
Speaker 11: there where Carr looked like he had a wide open
Speaker 11: layu or dunk and he kind of did a little
Speaker 11: pump fake to try to make sure there was no
Speaker 11: one behind him and ended up getting blocked and fall
Speaker 11: went out of bound. So like that kid was in
Speaker 11: the back of their head all night in the first half,
Speaker 11: and you know, Duke really made Kentucky live and die
Speaker 11: by the three, which at first it looked like it
Speaker 11: was gonna be a mistake because Kentucky.
Speaker 10: Came out red hot went five for Fox. But you
Speaker 10: know basketball at the end of the day that it's.
Speaker 11: Not always going to work out, and I think they
Speaker 11: went out for six the rest of the first half
Speaker 11: after they started five to seven. So it was a
Speaker 11: little concerning to see that they were so one dimensional
Speaker 11: and they didn't really have any answers for Cooper Flag
Speaker 11: and some of those other college scorers Tyres Froster as
Speaker 11: a junior.
Speaker 10: So at hatime, you know, doubt not.
Speaker 11: I did not, probably like most of the fan base,
Speaker 11: I didn't think very good thing because I didn't think
Speaker 11: Kentucky much of a chance. But to their credits, especially
Speaker 11: late in that second half, they were able to kind
Speaker 11: of break out of being one dimensional and scoring the faint.
Speaker 3: I thought Kentucky would play better in the second half,
Speaker 3: but I also reminded myself. You know, Duke's going to
Speaker 3: play better in the second half as well, But Kentucky
Speaker 3: took Duke out of some of the things that it
Speaker 3: was doing. It was Duke was getting easy looks inside
Speaker 3: those were not plentiful in the second half, and Duke
Speaker 3: did not hit from the outside. Kentucky got some clutch shots.
Speaker 3: But also when the big kid went out with cramps,
Speaker 3: was yeah.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that changed cam. Like I was saying earlier that
Speaker 11: they had that kid in the back of their mind
Speaker 11: every time they went to the rim, and rightfully so.
Speaker 11: I mean seven to two with a god knows what
Speaker 11: his wingspan was. I mean there was one ball that
Speaker 11: Lamont Butler. I know he's smaller, but it was a
Speaker 11: pretty high uh little jumper or whatever. It was like
Speaker 11: he got it up in the air pretty good and
Speaker 11: that kid just wanted to uh swatted it into the
Speaker 11: stands shown off as vertical. So uh yeah, I think
Speaker 11: that definitely helped. And you know, they got they definitely
Speaker 11: were fortunate that dude mid some wide open threes.
Speaker 10: There there's no doubt about it. But you take it.
Speaker 11: And that's what I was so impressed with though, is yeah,
Speaker 11: of course, I mean it helped that that kid was
Speaker 11: out and you know it didn't look quite himself when.
Speaker 10: He came back in.
Speaker 11: But Andrew, I thought Andrew carn would take a Ohway
Speaker 11: just suck over in the last six minutes because those
Speaker 11: are their two best players that getting to the rim
Speaker 11: and getting a bucket if you need it, and both
Speaker 11: of those guys that's what they did, especially Car, I
Speaker 11: mean he had two in one, one that tied the game,
Speaker 11: one that put him ahead right after Cooper Flagg had
Speaker 11: a three point play of his own. And you know
Speaker 11: in the first half. A big issue too, is they
Speaker 11: couldn't get free throws. I think they were like three
Speaker 11: for seven at one point. I think they finished a
Speaker 11: half like nine to fifteen.
Speaker 10: Just not good enough.
Speaker 11: And both and your Car and you know, take a
Speaker 11: oh Way had the line late in the game, they
Speaker 11: were hitting their free throws and you know, getting the
Speaker 11: free buckets that they needed to put this thing away.
Speaker 11: So yeah, I thought those two guys really took over.
Speaker 11: And I can't get over to play oh take a
Speaker 11: oh I made on that steal because to go for
Speaker 11: the steel, that as a risky play, you can foul,
Speaker 11: you can get just blown by, especially when you're going
Speaker 11: up a guy against a guy like Cooper Flag, who
Speaker 11: is going to be the number one taken next year's draft.
Speaker 11: That ball holds and so many bad things could happen,
Speaker 11: but you know, being a junior, being experienced, fearless and
Speaker 11: made a hell of a play, got to the rim,
Speaker 11: which he still good out through the foul and you know,
Speaker 11: Duke never recovered from that.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: Mark Pope after the game talked about how they scouted Duke,
Speaker 3: obviously studied Duke and realized that that Coop for Flag
Speaker 3: likes to spin this way or that way at certain times.
Speaker 3: And you you've got to think that that was a
Speaker 3: scouting report coming to life on that play. And maybe
Speaker 3: when Marii Williams forced him into a turnover.
Speaker 11: No question, no question, I mean, And at the end
Speaker 11: of the day, the kid is seventeen years old, right,
Speaker 11: gifted and talented as he is. H Yeah, so you're
Speaker 11: going to see some of that ball movement or some
Speaker 11: of that going sideways like that. That's freshman basketball and
Speaker 11: that's stuff we've seen at Kentucky a lot the last
Speaker 11: couple of years. Like it was just it was refreshing
Speaker 11: to see Kentucky.
Speaker 10: On the other side of that.
Speaker 11: But absolutely they definitely knew the scouting report and there
Speaker 11: was you know, oh take it away, and Mark Post
Speaker 11: didn't talk I think in the time out right before
Speaker 11: when Duo called time out, like they had a conversation.
Speaker 10: And you know, I'm not I don't think Mark Holst.
Speaker 11: Had worked for word go take the ball away, but
Speaker 11: clearly they they saw something and made an adjustment right
Speaker 11: there and then and oh I just heads up play
Speaker 11: and again risky plays because so much to your wrong,
Speaker 11: it's open to still get blown by. Like A said
Speaker 11: the fou like, it was risky, but absolutely fearless.
Speaker 3: What were your thoughts as you saw Jackson Robinson trying
Speaker 3: to find his way in that game and really struggled.
Speaker 11: Yeah, he had a rough game, and that was you know,
Speaker 11: he's I was definitely just knowing what I've seen from
Speaker 11: Kentucky the last couple of years, and you got to
Speaker 11: put it in perspective. Now that's different, but usually when
Speaker 11: Kentucky has had one of their elite scorers struggle really badly,
Speaker 11: they lost. I mean an Antonio Reeves in the Kansas
Speaker 11: State Game of the tournament couldn't hit anything. They lost
Speaker 11: the game. Because he couldn't do anything. You know, Reid
Speaker 11: and Round, especially Reid struggled in those two tournament games
Speaker 11: last year, the NCAA and SEC tournament. They couldn't win,
Speaker 11: they couldn't survive. Jackson Robinson's supposed to be the best
Speaker 11: player on this team.
Speaker 10: I think.
Speaker 11: I don't think the separations there as much as we've
Speaker 11: seen in years past with you know, the top players
Speaker 11: of Kentucky's roster. But he is supposed to be the
Speaker 11: catalyst for this group. He's supposed to be the guy
Speaker 11: that they can rely on to get a bucket. And
Speaker 11: he didn't score from the field at all, And he
Speaker 11: had a chance the free throw line and go for
Speaker 11: ships make the free and he only made one. Like
Speaker 11: nothing was working for him offensively, and super super impressive
Speaker 11: that Kentucky was able to still muster enough offense without him.
Speaker 11: And I actually thought, you know, there was a clip
Speaker 11: his body language did not look good in the first staff.
Speaker 11: But I did think he made some big plays on
Speaker 11: the defensive end, or at least maybe they don't show
Speaker 11: him chats that sheet as steals are blocked, but he's
Speaker 11: just getting some stops helping lock up his man. I
Speaker 11: think made some plays that made a difference. But yeah,
Speaker 11: it was super impressive. When Jackson couldn't hit a shot,
Speaker 11: it was like, uh oh, like in a game like
Speaker 11: this that.
Speaker 10: Now is so close. That could be the separator.
Speaker 11: But again it goes back to I think gamesw car
Speaker 11: will take it away just sitting in the paint making
Speaker 11: things happen.
Speaker 3: Aaron Gershawan is my guess. He covered Kentucky Duke for
Speaker 3: the catch pause. He's on his way back from Atlanta.
Speaker 3: We'll have more questions for Aaron. Talk a little football
Speaker 3: as well. On the other side of the break here
Speaker 3: on a Big Blue Sider six thirty alall come back.
Speaker 3: We're talking with Aaron Gershano the catch pause on his
Speaker 3: way back from Atlanta, where they covered Kentucky and Duke,
Speaker 3: and a few more basketball questions Aaron, before I shifted
Speaker 3: over to football real quickly, but you mentioned oh way
Speaker 3: he was, I thought a great example. Really the entire
Speaker 3: team was in the second half of just using the
Speaker 3: grittiness to get back in the game. They outscored Duke
Speaker 3: forty to twenty six, but did it with defense and rebounding.
Speaker 1: And you brought up last year's team.
Speaker 3: That team was a joy to watch on offense usually,
Speaker 3: but man, when they fell behind, they were just hopeless
Speaker 3: when it came to catching up. This was a great
Speaker 3: not just a lesson, but a reiteration about why you
Speaker 3: have to have both ends of the court covered. You
Speaker 3: can't just outscore people, you know what I.
Speaker 10: Mean, absolutely no question about it. In a way.
Speaker 11: You know, that was what we thought we were. You know,
Speaker 11: Kentucky thought they were getting when they got the provocable.
Speaker 11: They didn't quite know exactly what he was going to
Speaker 11: be offensively, they like that, you know, he was a
Speaker 11: thirty seven percent free shooter, but you know they didn't
Speaker 11: see I mean, Mark Pope will.
Speaker 10: Play me saw on safe. I don't think. Uh, it's
Speaker 10: hard to think.
Speaker 11: You they thought he was going to be this good
Speaker 11: at getting to the rim and being so effective, uh
Speaker 11: you know, getting the ball off, like you said, getting
Speaker 11: rebounds and taking it to the full length of the court,
Speaker 11: or in the case of the game winning play, getting
Speaker 11: a steal and going the full length of the court.
Speaker 11: Just really impressive stuff. And I thought, you know, another
Speaker 11: play he made or maybe the second biggest play of
Speaker 11: the game, because it ended up being the clinchers.
Speaker 10: You know, Lama.
Speaker 11: Butler misses the second free throw, uh with the five
Speaker 11: seconds left, and Otegah gets fast super flag right and
Speaker 11: drabs that rebound and dribbles out the clock basically, and
Speaker 11: then he goes and makes those two free throws to
Speaker 11: make it impossible for.
Speaker 10: Duke even having hill Mary. So yeah, you gotta have that.
Speaker 11: You've got to have rim protection, you've got to have
Speaker 11: defense that can get stopped when to stop the bleeding,
Speaker 11: you know, the punt intentate. So uh, this team has that,
Speaker 11: and you know the biggest thing they have is just
Speaker 11: the experience. I mean, yea, again, we haven't been a
Speaker 11: team like we Kentucky's had. You know, they had Antonio
Speaker 11: Reeves and Trey Mitchell last year. But outside of that
Speaker 11: pretty young team the year before that, they actually were
Speaker 11: older than they normally are with Oscar and Jacob Toppin
Speaker 11: and Antonio, but still you know, relying a lot on
Speaker 11: Case Samas and Chris Livingston five star freshmen. So this
Speaker 11: year just a complete one eighty you know, seven fifth
Speaker 11: year senior is another fourth year senior, a junior or sophomore.
Speaker 11: And it showed, it totally showed between the fact that
Speaker 11: they went into halftime down nine, and they didn't blink.
Speaker 11: That team would have blinked last year. They wasn't at halftime.
Speaker 11: They made adjustments, I thought. I thought the most interesting
Speaker 11: thing that Mark Polpe said in the post game press
Speaker 11: conference was that this team before he and the stats
Speaker 11: even walk in the locker room, they already have their
Speaker 11: adjustments made like they don't. That will stood out to me,
Speaker 11: like you don't get that.
Speaker 10: A freshman too, that's not going to do that.
Speaker 11: They're going to need some more handholding, especially in the
Speaker 11: month of November. So, you know, really really impressive stuff there.
Speaker 3: A couple of minutes self of Aaron Gersh out of
Speaker 3: the catch, buys, let me shift you over to football
Speaker 3: because the uk men don't play again until Tuesday, play basketball.
Speaker 1: So you got Murray State coming in.
Speaker 3: Let's face it, this should be a walk over, a
Speaker 3: get well game, and we should see players that we
Speaker 3: haven't seen much of, if at all, all season long.
Speaker 3: I'm curious. I know everybody is. Mark Stoops was noncommittal
Speaker 3: as well. He should be on Monday. I know you
Speaker 3: weren't there, but I'm sure you read the trash script.
Speaker 3: He would not talk about the quarterback spot with Vandergriff
Speaker 3: being injured. But I wouldn't be at all shocked, Aaron,
Speaker 3: if you saw Gavin Wimsett and then Cutter buwlly the
Speaker 3: rest of the day, would.
Speaker 11: You Yeah, I have an inkling you might not see
Speaker 11: Rock Vandergriff at all. Yeah, right from what I what
Speaker 11: I'm thinking, maybe.
Speaker 10: You might see Cutter Bully get the start.
Speaker 11: I really think that is a possibility. I mean, obviously
Speaker 11: you got to go win the game. And I think
Speaker 11: Kentucky for their psyche, for the fans psyche as they
Speaker 11: try to playing to any hope these last three games,
Speaker 11: you've got to go and get some style points here.
Speaker 11: I mean Murray State. You mentioned it should be again,
Speaker 11: right game Murray State. Not only are they won at
Speaker 11: nine their rank as the one hundred twenty three FCS team,
Speaker 11: they're one.
Speaker 10: Twenty second in defense. Oh man, they.
Speaker 11: Really really struggle. They give up forty five points a game.
Speaker 11: So you really need to go out and score a
Speaker 11: bunch of points. It should be a fifty burger for
Speaker 11: the offense. It should be a feel good performance.
Speaker 10: For the offense.
Speaker 11: And so maybe you start Gavin just so you have
Speaker 11: some experience and then get Cutter in early. But man,
Speaker 11: there's just they gotta have something to feel good about.
Speaker 11: And I feel like if they can get Cutter Bully
Speaker 11: in their starting and put up a bunch of points,
Speaker 11: maybe that gives you some hope. I know it's Murray State,
Speaker 11: but like, hey, look at this quarterback we have out
Speaker 11: there making plays in the true freshman He's going to
Speaker 11: get a whole you know, off season to development.
Speaker 10: Maybe who knows.
Speaker 11: You know, going in it's gonna be very it's gonna
Speaker 11: be the most important month of December and ten you're
Speaker 11: coming up here.
Speaker 10: But if Cutter plays really well, you know.
Speaker 11: It's obviously it'd be an interesting thing to see what
Speaker 11: they do in the last two games of the season.
Speaker 11: But you know, going into next year, you know, Rock
Speaker 11: vandergriff is not happy or felt like he was in
Speaker 11: the seam fit. If he hits the portal or they
Speaker 11: tell Gavin Winston to move on, like do they think
Speaker 11: about building around him? Do they have to go get
Speaker 11: another portal quarterback? So I think they need to get
Speaker 11: some questions answer these last three weeks in this game,
Speaker 11: like you said, where they're going to get a lot
Speaker 11: of young guys playing time. Hopefully you're going to get
Speaker 11: some of the questions answered and just which guys you
Speaker 11: can kind of build around, which guys we want to
Speaker 11: make sure you keep out of that portal and be
Speaker 11: important test for you going forward.
Speaker 3: They so need Cutter Bowlie to be the QB of
Speaker 3: the future to stop this revolving door. You know, the
Speaker 3: lineage of Kentucky football coaches are quarterbacks rather, they're they're
Speaker 3: stuck with it right now because Drew Barrker went down
Speaker 3: and he was the future, and then they had to
Speaker 3: go to the Jucos and the and the and they
Speaker 3: got some really good players out of the portal Stephen
Speaker 3: Johnson Levis, I mean, Terry Wilson, Harry, but they've not
Speaker 3: been able to build from the ground up with a QB.
Speaker 3: And he seems like a logical choice, doesn't he.
Speaker 11: Yeah, the last quarterback who started a full season that
Speaker 11: was a high school signing for Kentucky with Patrick Holes.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 10: I mean that was said ten years ago.
Speaker 6: Wow, So they.
Speaker 11: Really like, like you said, Drew Barker was the most
Speaker 11: promising guy.
Speaker 10: They've probably time.
Speaker 11: It didn't work out, and you Knowland was a four
Speaker 11: star recruit and that one didn't work out either, So Uh,
Speaker 11: they really, like you said, end this cycle. I mean, sure,
Speaker 11: teams get quarterbacks out of the portal all the time
Speaker 11: and it works to an extent. You look at the
Speaker 11: guys who were taken in the first round of the
Speaker 11: draft last year. Uh, I think they might have all
Speaker 11: been guys hit the portal at least at least Caleb
Speaker 11: off the top and then brow Nick and Michael Pennick.
Speaker 11: So you know, at least three of the pot. Yeah,
Speaker 11: Jayden Daniels, tou So, I think all of them except
Speaker 11: for Drake Man. So you know, it's part of the
Speaker 11: game now. So it's not the worst thing in the world,
Speaker 11: but it would be nice to get one to stick,
Speaker 11: especially guy who I think from a physicality standpoint, you know,
Speaker 11: just looking at him, six to five, you know, well
Speaker 11: over two hundred pounds, he's built the right way. Uh,
Speaker 11: he's got a cannon for an army, has all the tools.
Speaker 11: He was a guy that you know, Tennessee wanted, USC
Speaker 11: wanted two schools that are you know, coached by quarterback urus,
Speaker 11: and you know, Kentucky was able to keep them home.
Speaker 11: Like they really need that one to work out, and
Speaker 11: again it could be a pivotal it's going to be such.
Speaker 10: A big offseason.
Speaker 11: But the going forward Brock vander Griff and Gavin Wentz
Speaker 11: that haven't shown enough to sell themselves foreshore as the
Speaker 11: starting quarterback in twenty five. So it's a massive opportunity
Speaker 11: for Bowlie and it would be I think a huge
Speaker 11: relief for the staff that they can see some positive sign.
Speaker 3: Well, whatever happens there and Gershawn will cover it for
Speaker 3: the Cats Pause. He's on his way back from Atlanta
Speaker 3: where he covered UK Duke. Check out his work on
Speaker 3: the Cats Pause website. Just type incatspaus dot com. It'll
Speaker 3: take you to two four to seven Sports or follow
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Speaker 10: Thank you sir, you've got it up.
Speaker 3: Next. Weston Bureau Chief Gary Moore here on the Big
Speaker 3: Moon Sider six thirty WLAP Welcome back to the Big
Speaker 3: Moon Sider. It is Wednesday, which means we go down
Speaker 3: I sixty four to the west and visit with Weston
Speaker 3: Bureau Chief Gary Moore, longtime West Coast Bureau chief for
Speaker 3: US when he was at KLOS Radio in Los Angeles,
Speaker 3: when now LA means Louisville area and he joins us
Speaker 3: with a lot on his mind.
Speaker 1: Two guys in six pack? How about does he take
Speaker 1: you wild Cats?
Speaker 3: Last at it? How about it?
Speaker 12: I think I speak for most of Big Blue Nation.
Speaker 12: That doesn't matter if it's November or March. Always a
Speaker 12: pleasure to beat the team that I think we can
Speaker 12: spell the name of the team d uk.
Speaker 1: E last night, How beautiful was that?
Speaker 3: Dick with a Big Blue Nation? Many many, many people
Speaker 3: love it. But as I mentioned last night, I still
Speaker 3: think Kentucky fans need to take more joy in the
Speaker 3: ninety eight comeback when it sent Kentucky to the Final
Speaker 3: four International title.
Speaker 1: I'll drink to that down seventeen at eight to play.
Speaker 12: Come on, we got two guys in a six pack,
Speaker 12: you and me and six topics. We got pro football stuff,
Speaker 12: talk about college hoops, college footballs being college football dick.
Speaker 12: As you know, I grew up proudly in Murray, Kentucky, yep,
Speaker 12: all American town on Main Street. In fact, I literally
Speaker 12: grew up on the campus of Murray State.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 1: It was a half a block away.
Speaker 12: That was my playground almost every day. Went to all
Speaker 12: the Racer football games on Saturday's good old Cutchen Stadium.
Speaker 12: Sundays after church, my best friend Tommy Pasco, and I
Speaker 12: would walk around the wall of a Cutchen stadium. My
Speaker 12: mom worked at Murray State. Neighbors did very special place
Speaker 12: in my heart, which which is why it pains me
Speaker 12: to think of what the final score and stats will
Speaker 12: become Saturday when.
Speaker 1: The Racers play the Cats.
Speaker 12: You know, even on a good season for Murray, it
Speaker 12: would be one sided against an SEC team, much less
Speaker 12: one of the worst years ever in Racer's history. So
Speaker 12: here's hoping that both UK and Murray get through Saturday
Speaker 12: injury free, and for the Cats, maybe find some new
Speaker 12: faces on both sides of the ball who will pleasantly
Speaker 12: surprise us the following weekend in Austin. Maybe they're gonna
Speaker 12: try out a new quarterback situation. You know more about
Speaker 12: that than I would.
Speaker 3: The question I have for you is can Murray stayed
Speaker 3: ever get back to those glory days, the godfree days,
Speaker 3: the Beamer days, when they were relevant, when they were
Speaker 3: winning or contending for OVC titles. I've been there once,
Speaker 3: went there with the EKU. It is a charming little town.
Speaker 3: But how does one recruit to Murray k Why, especially
Speaker 3: now in this day of nil on the portal and
Speaker 3: all that I do wonder.
Speaker 12: I know they just got some money from a rich
Speaker 12: alum that was given to the foot ball program. Maybe
Speaker 12: that's going to turn the tide a little bit. Maybe
Speaker 12: there's a possibility for that, because that seems to be
Speaker 12: what's the you know, what's grease and a lot of
Speaker 12: these wheels at a lot of schools, it's the nil and
Speaker 12: all the other dough.
Speaker 1: I sure hope.
Speaker 12: So it's a great place to live, great places you've
Speaker 12: got kids, you know, young coaches starting out with kids,
Speaker 12: great place to raise them.
Speaker 3: Do I remember that they had they used to have
Speaker 3: a horse, a racer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it still does. The field still, yeah, hasn't.
Speaker 12: Got much of a workout this year. It's in great shape.
Speaker 3: Maybe you could take off running when they get a
Speaker 3: first down.
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's going to have to come to that second
Speaker 12: swig in the six packs. So while that game in
Speaker 12: Kroger Field's going on, Western and Louisville are gonna both
Speaker 12: be playing conference games against crummy teams on Saturday at
Speaker 12: high noon. My Hilltopper has got a homecoming matchup with
Speaker 12: three and six LA Tech Toppers, a thirteen and a
Speaker 12: half point favorite. That's on the CBS Sports net by
Speaker 12: the way at three point thirty number twenty two, number
Speaker 12: twenty two. Louisville a twenty point favorite at two and seven.
Speaker 12: Stanford out in palow Alto, California, which is about twenty
Speaker 12: six miles from the Pacific Ocean, beautiful setting for this
Speaker 12: Atlantic Coast Conference game. We've talked about the ridiculousness of
Speaker 12: West Coast teams flying thousands of miles east and vice
Speaker 12: versa in this inaugural year of conference expansions for TV
Speaker 12: money and for no other reasons. But you know what,
Speaker 12: last week Western traveled some twenty eight hundred miles round
Speaker 12: trip from Bowling Green to New Mexico State for football.
Speaker 12: They've also gone to El Paso, San Antonio, Miami, other
Speaker 12: places way too far from for fan bases to travel.
Speaker 12: But as we've talked about before, as long as TV
Speaker 12: money keeps coming, that's kind of a who cares about
Speaker 12: the fans deal?
Speaker 3: Right? If they can crunch the numbers and make it work,
Speaker 3: that's fine. But you and I have talked about this
Speaker 3: before many many years ago. In the eighties, Western Kentucky
Speaker 3: left the Ohio Valley for the supposed TV riches of
Speaker 3: the Sunbelt Conference, which was created for television, just like
Speaker 3: the Big East, and I think preceded the Big East
Speaker 3: when it came to cutting a deal with a TV
Speaker 3: network ESPN and putting a league together to provide programming.
Speaker 1: But what that meant, of.
Speaker 3: Course, was Western Kentucky instead of busing, you know, budgetarily,
Speaker 3: making more sense to opposing teams. Now everybody's flying to
Speaker 3: Florida and South Alabama and places like that, and not
Speaker 3: just football, as you know, but all the other sports.
Speaker 3: Still a lot of bus rides.
Speaker 1: They got a lot longer.
Speaker 3: So I don't see how this works financially, but thankfully
Speaker 3: I'm not in charge of that.
Speaker 12: Well, guess what is not working financially. The College Heights
Speaker 12: Herald newspaper reported that they just finally got some figures
Speaker 12: from the office there that they've been that the administration
Speaker 12: have been trying to hide. The athletic department went over
Speaker 12: budget by about two point seven million dollars.
Speaker 3: That's all in the last year, I know. And by
Speaker 3: the way, if I told you five years ago Louisville
Speaker 3: at Stanford football, you would have said okay, and I
Speaker 3: would have said Louisville's favored by almost two touchdowns. You
Speaker 3: would have said, waw, and I also throw in and
Speaker 3: it's a conference game. You'd have hung up on me.
Speaker 12: Crazy a third swig in a six pack. So Cards,
Speaker 12: Cats Toppers, Racers this weekend. Clearly, though, the biggest game
Speaker 12: between ranked teams is gonna be again in the SEC
Speaker 12: and again with Georgia at number seven Valls at the
Speaker 12: number three Dogs Dogs a nine a half point favorite
Speaker 12: at seven thirty Saturday night ABC.
Speaker 1: But what else looks fun on Saturday?
Speaker 12: Well, number one Oregon at Wisconsin might be How about Utah?
Speaker 1: Those guys are pissed off.
Speaker 12: They're gonna be playing a number twenty Colorado. Maybe number
Speaker 12: five Texas at Arkansas could be a surprise game. How
Speaker 12: about number twenty three Clemson a number eighteen pit Clemson
Speaker 12: is a ten point favorite. By the way, that one
Speaker 12: you've see the upsets in any of those five games.
Speaker 3: Well that's a that's a good lineup. Maybe Utah, like
Speaker 3: you said, ye, but yeah, Clemson, I have to admit
Speaker 3: as surprises. After that opening game, Clemson has gone on
Speaker 3: to have a quality season. Wouldn't it be cool if
Speaker 3: Texas Arkansas became a thing again? I mean, what was
Speaker 3: late the late sixties? They were a huge well as
Speaker 3: long as they were in the Southwest Conference. Yeah, they
Speaker 3: were in a huge rivalry. But Arkansas beat Texas the
Speaker 3: lock up. It's only National football championship. You might have
Speaker 3: thought Oregon Wisconsin would be a really contentious game, and
Speaker 3: it might be, but Oregon's proven out to be much
Speaker 3: better than I thought it was.
Speaker 12: Remember that Remember that Texas Arkansas game where Nixon showed up?
Speaker 1: Yes, it was like what sixty eight?
Speaker 3: Maybe?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 3: Or yeah, later than that sixties page Sports Illustrated.
Speaker 12: Yeah, fourth swig in the six pack.
Speaker 1: He went some college hoops.
Speaker 12: Two ranked teams going at it like they did last night,
Speaker 12: looked no further than Friday night, seven o'clock number two
Speaker 12: Alabama at West Lafayette number thirteen Perdue. Remember those two
Speaker 12: teams made it to the Final four last year, not
Speaker 12: against each other, but they were there. But good luck
Speaker 12: finding it. NBC's dumped it onto that stupid Peacock app
Speaker 12: on Friday night. Also Friday, number twenty one, Ohio State
Speaker 12: is at number twenty three, three Texas A and M.
Speaker 12: That's on the SEC network at nine. Then let's move
Speaker 12: ahead to Sunday. My Hilltoppers are home for a three
Speaker 12: o'clock game with Lipscomb. That's same with Lipscomb team that
Speaker 12: UK will be playing on Tuesday, by the way, And
Speaker 12: the big Sunday showdown Patino versus Patino. Richard Patino brings
Speaker 12: his new Mexico Lobos to Madison Square Guard to take
Speaker 12: on Dad's number twenty two Saint John's Redstorm, said the
Speaker 12: elder Patino. Quote, I'll coach against my son. I don't
Speaker 12: even want to look at him.
Speaker 1: Unquote.
Speaker 12: Fun for the whole freaking family. High Noon Sunday FS one.
Speaker 12: You're gonna be watching that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I may look in on that.
Speaker 3: But my Packers are back in action, so I need
Speaker 3: I need to watch them more than anything. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 3: that'll be fun. That'll be interesting to see Ohio State
Speaker 3: A and M. That could give us a indication of
Speaker 3: what's what.
Speaker 1: And yeah, bam at Purdue.
Speaker 3: You gotta think that if if the big guy were
Speaker 3: still with Perdue, we'd see that on A on and
Speaker 3: over the air network. But Peacock, I mean, I'm telling
Speaker 3: you there. We talked about this before when football games
Speaker 3: began to appear on streaming channels like they do. In
Speaker 3: a UK basketball game the other night was on a
Speaker 3: streaming channel. They are laying the groundwork, and that groundwork
Speaker 3: is lined with money. That's what. That's what's what but streaming,
Speaker 3: and we're gonna see a lot more of it.
Speaker 12: I ain't buying peacock. Never is a long time never ever.
Speaker 3: Never ever, even if the Super Bowl were on peaking never.
Speaker 1: No, I'll go to somebody else's house.
Speaker 3: I's gonna say, you'll find a bar.
Speaker 12: Exactly uh fifth swig on the six pack onto the
Speaker 12: NFL here. Now you're not gonna believe this, dick. I'm
Speaker 12: glad you're sitting down. I was watching Sunday's Lions Texans game.
Speaker 12: I actually saw with my own two bloodshot eyes the
Speaker 12: officials called a pass interference penalty.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
Speaker 12: We thought those went the way of the tuck rules.
Speaker 12: Remember that, well, see if they have any more of
Speaker 12: those Tomorrow night. Great matchup from the NFC East Washington
Speaker 12: and Philly. IgGs are seven and two, DC seven and three,
Speaker 12: and the Commanders, what a lame name they got to
Speaker 12: change that, Philly three and a half point favorite. Then
Speaker 12: on to Sunday mentioned your packers at the woe Begone Bears,
Speaker 12: now under new offensive management, barely the Bears weren't offensive
Speaker 12: enough before, so that should be fun. You guys will
Speaker 12: still win two massive marquee matchups though, Ravens three point
Speaker 12: favorites at Pittsburgh, Chiefs two and a half point underdogs
Speaker 12: at Buffalo. Then you got Sunday night at Cincinnati at
Speaker 12: the Chargers, and on Monday the Texans with more abuse
Speaker 12: for Dallas. Give me the Ravens, give me the Bills,
Speaker 12: Chargers obviously your Packers, and I'll take the Texans too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love these first of all, my Packers playing the Bears,
Speaker 3: who may not start the wonder kN Kayley Williams.
Speaker 1: They may bench him and let him learn for a while.
Speaker 3: All that heat that he generated early is really fizzled
Speaker 3: out and he got his OC fire. You're right about that.
Speaker 1: Kansas City.
Speaker 3: I don't know how it keeps winning, but I do
Speaker 3: think that comes with Although weather will not be a factor.
Speaker 3: I don't care what the weather is. The Chiefs can
Speaker 3: play in crummy weather. Dallas can't lose enough, as you
Speaker 3: know me, Washington, to me is one of the great stories,
Speaker 3: maybe the great story in the NFL this year. One
Speaker 3: quarterback has given everybody hope. But they've built around him
Speaker 3: really well, and I wouldn't be shocked if Washington wins
Speaker 3: that game. Bengals, I think are out of it, but
Speaker 3: they got to keep winning, you know, to give them
Speaker 3: shows a shot, obviously, But to me, this Baltimore Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: game is so intriguing. The quarterbacks, the coaches, the style
Speaker 3: of play, old school, old NFL teams or NFL cities
Speaker 3: it became AFL cities, you know. I just love stuff
Speaker 3: like that. But I will also say, as we move on,
Speaker 3: I am a total outlier on the name Commanders. I
Speaker 3: know you've hated it since they first brought it up.
Speaker 3: I don't kind of like it. I like it. I
Speaker 3: wish it would have been tails, but I just I
Speaker 3: don't know what it is about the commander's name that
Speaker 3: people don't like. I just think it sounds like a
Speaker 3: good name, and that's to me, that's all you need.
Speaker 3: But I'm not a fan of the franchise, So what
Speaker 3: do I know.
Speaker 12: Sixth Twig in the sixth Pack, Dick Gabriel, we have
Speaker 12: ourselves another hit and run case to report. Academic hit
Speaker 12: and run, you know about these where an administrator comes
Speaker 12: in makes changes that affects students in alumni for decades,
Speaker 12: then splits for another campus retires with a bloated golden parachute.
Speaker 3: YEP.
Speaker 12: Case in point Carol Fult, president of the University of
Speaker 12: Southern California, or as they hate to be called, Southern
Speaker 12: col so we'll call them that this entire segment. Folt
Speaker 12: announced last week she's resigning next summer. She just got
Speaker 12: there five years ago, helped him out of some scandals
Speaker 12: and navigated COVID, but she also butted into the PAC
Speaker 12: twelve negotiations with ESPN and blew that up. Then she
Speaker 12: tag teams with the UCLA's chancellor, who by the way,
Speaker 12: is not there either, to blow up the conference by
Speaker 12: soak Southern cal and UCLA and the Big Ten for
Speaker 12: Football TV money and only for football TV money, to.
Speaker 1: Hell with the other sports.
Speaker 12: Foult also hired athletic director Mike Bond from Cincinnati, who
Speaker 12: resigned eighteen months ago because of the heat of an
Speaker 12: LA Times investigative piece. But before he did, of course,
Speaker 12: he hired Lincoln Riley for ten million a year to
Speaker 12: take Southern col Football into not only more mediocrity again,
Speaker 12: but now with a year's probation and a fifty thousand
Speaker 12: dollars fine. We found out this week Carol Folt, a
Speaker 12: name of infamy for parents who can't fly five thousand
Speaker 12: miles round trip from LA to Rutgers to see their
Speaker 12: kids play volleyball or any ball.
Speaker 3: Getting a team in a program through scandals through COVID.
Speaker 3: You cannot dismiss that. But as you said, to be
Speaker 3: a part of a group that blows up and turned
Speaker 3: his nose up in a TV deal that ultimately led
Speaker 3: to the death of the conference, she's got to wear that,
Speaker 3: and you wonder does she even care? Nope, I would
Speaker 3: not be at all surprised if the answer to that
Speaker 3: was no.
Speaker 1: I guarantee it's not no.
Speaker 12: And that's the same deal that the Big twelve is
Speaker 12: enjoying right now. Correct as a much stronger position. That's
Speaker 12: correct in terms of some of what happened to the
Speaker 12: Pac twelve. Bobby yp he is Gary Moore. We're gonna
Speaker 12: come back on a couple of hot reids for our West.
Speaker 3: End bureau chief in just a minute here on the
Speaker 3: Big Blue and Siders six thirty WLA.
Speaker 1: Welcome back.
Speaker 3: We're chatting with our West End bureau chief, Gary Moore.
Speaker 1: He is, of course.
Speaker 3: Finished telling us about his two guys in a six pack,
Speaker 3: but we're not letting him get away a couple of
Speaker 3: hot reeds coming at him. First of all. Kentucky Duke
Speaker 3: last night. What a game, fun for the BBN, fun
Speaker 3: for the whole family. But easy to see Gary Cooper
Speaker 3: flag best player on the floor. We'll see him for
Speaker 3: one year. But can you imagine what that kid's going
Speaker 3: to look like in March. He can't even vote yet.
Speaker 3: He's not even eighteen, Like it's a few days before
Speaker 3: what Christmas?
Speaker 1: Right, eighteen something like that.
Speaker 3: Like he's twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could still post.
Speaker 3: Him up, except down the stretch where he made a
Speaker 3: couple turnovers.
Speaker 12: I could still post it up. Give me the ball.
Speaker 12: That was a great butte and you know he was
Speaker 12: absolutely great. But I gotta give props to market the team.
Speaker 12: You know, UK's bench outscored Dukes twenty five, what was it,
Speaker 12: twenty five to six. I think that's the And you
Speaker 12: know that that speaks a lot to the guys that
Speaker 12: are like, you know, yeah, whatever my role is, let me,
Speaker 12: I'll come out there with the second team or whatever
Speaker 12: it is. That's a great, great sign they were resilient.
Speaker 12: That was just guts. You know, that was just a
Speaker 12: really gutsy win. They would get down, they got back up,
Speaker 12: they get down back up. That bodes well, I think
Speaker 12: for a lot of future games. It's early, but we'll see.
Speaker 3: We are both old school. I am older school than
Speaker 3: you are. But it's interesting when you see a talent
Speaker 3: like Cooper Flag and you think back to win. I
Speaker 3: think when I was just getting to college, varsity varsities
Speaker 3: could allow freshmen to play. So there are some old schools,
Speaker 3: old old schoolers you think you got to go back
Speaker 3: to freshman in eligibility. I do not agree with that
Speaker 3: for a number of reasons, but if you imagine not
Speaker 3: getting the opportunity to watch this kid play. But there
Speaker 3: are other people, and I'm one of them, would think,
Speaker 3: if you want to try to go from high school
Speaker 3: to the pros in basketball like they do in baseball, golf, tennis,
Speaker 3: all these other sports, you should be allowed to we
Speaker 3: would miss out on Cooper Flag as well at that
Speaker 3: rule or in place. So you know, people hate one
Speaker 3: and done, but at least we get to see a
Speaker 3: guy like this, And.
Speaker 12: You think back to those UCLA teams with the freshman
Speaker 12: teams that had you know, blue al Cender on them
Speaker 12: all like that when they were freshmen, and the freshmen
Speaker 12: in those days were beating the varsity teams the crap
Speaker 12: out of them, And then you think, well, if they
Speaker 12: had another extra year, what could that? They were already
Speaker 12: a powerhouse as it was. But you're right, it's great
Speaker 12: to see him, at least for one year now.
Speaker 3: Dani's on Mike Pratt their freshman team. Yeahand of the
Speaker 3: varsity Cooper Kittens at Kentucky, Mike Flint and Kevin Greevy
Speaker 3: and those guys could handle the varsity as well. Our
Speaker 3: second hot read involves the Auburn Flying High higers. Over
Speaker 3: the weekend, they were heading for Houston and before Gary,
Speaker 3: they had not even cleared Alabama airspace. A senior and
Speaker 3: a freshman got into a fistfight, which involved, according to
Speaker 3: the police report, torn clothes and blood. It was dismissed
Speaker 3: as horseplay. They're trying to but those kids they turned
Speaker 3: that planet. Don't make me turn this plane around, mister,
Speaker 3: because I will. They went back landed, kicked the kids
Speaker 3: off the flight, and then went and beat forth Frank
Speaker 3: Houston without them.
Speaker 12: But talk about guts, but I mean, these are teammates
Speaker 12: that haven't yet learned how to get along.
Speaker 3: I would think you'd.
Speaker 12: Go back to the history of some teams that have
Speaker 12: fought against each other, like you know the Oakland A's.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, those.
Speaker 12: Guys hated each other. The Yankees also did that kind
Speaker 12: of stuff. College basketball team, you didn't really hear that
Speaker 12: much about that sort of thing. They got another gay
Speaker 12: to night with. I guess Kent State they're playing down
Speaker 12: there in Auburn. We'll see if those guys even get up,
Speaker 12: are going to be playing off the bench or whatever.
Speaker 12: But that's interesting that you pointed that out a senior
Speaker 12: and a freshman. Yeah, probably a little bit of big
Speaker 12: brother little brother kind of stuff that maybe the little
Speaker 12: brother took a little too seriously.
Speaker 3: Reminded me of a flight that occurred while Tubby Smith
Speaker 3: was the coach, and there was a scuffle on the
Speaker 3: flight and as I understand that, one of the Kentucky players,
Speaker 3: a veteran, was not a good flyer, and he had
Speaker 3: managed to fall asleep, which he wanted to do so
Speaker 3: he could get through the flight, and one of the
Speaker 3: younger guys took one of those shrink wrapped sandwiches and
Speaker 3: threw it down the aisle hit him in the head
Speaker 3: and woke him up, and fisticuffs ensued, but there was
Speaker 3: no torn clothing or blood and they never turned the
Speaker 3: plane around. But things happen.
Speaker 6: Then.
Speaker 12: Phillips and Roby have a little pushing and shoving with
Speaker 12: some of the younger guys when they were doing some
Speaker 12: scrimmages and stuff.
Speaker 3: I gotta think they did, but that was on the court,
Speaker 3: not in an airplane.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, truth.
Speaker 3: Well, with our aeronautical report completed, we will say thank
Speaker 3: you to Gary and we will also say you can
Speaker 3: find him at.
Speaker 12: At nine to five to five Gary on ex Twitter
Speaker 12: whatever you want to call it, that whatever you call
Speaker 12: it these days, same place you're.
Speaker 3: At, Big Boo Insider one. Have a good weekend, you too, sir,
Speaker 3: And of course a reminder that Kentucky Murray State game.
Speaker 3: You can hear it right here is a one thirty kickoff.
Speaker 3: But be advised, Gary and I were just talking about
Speaker 3: streaming this game. This is the one game on the
Speaker 3: Kentucky schedule that will be on SEC Plus and ESPN Plus.
Speaker 3: So if you're opposed to streaming, don't like it, don't
Speaker 3: know how to do it, don't want to do it.
Speaker 3: Radio is the way to go. We'll have it for
Speaker 3: you obviously right here on six thirty WLAP. But again,
Speaker 3: just get used to it because there's going to be
Speaker 3: more and more of that coming up UK Murray State.
Speaker 3: The only way to see it if you're not there
Speaker 3: is on SEC plus or again ESPN Plus, and we're
Speaker 3: always there for you. You got you got your radio
Speaker 3: right there, so you know, even if you got it
Speaker 3: on TV, figure out a way to sync it up
Speaker 3: and we're right there for you. And a reminder. UK
Speaker 3: women's basketball comes up Saturday, Wildcats hosting Louisville, the first
Speaker 3: big test for Kenny Brooks and his team. Thanks to
Speaker 3: Gary Deshaun to Aaron, That's it the Night from the
Speaker 3: Garage and Lexington.
Speaker 6: I'm dead, Sacht they look at my sex.
Speaker 3: They good there.
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, Na