Speaker 1: From Morecast Connect and AJ Benze fame. Uh, he'd liked
Speaker 1: to be walked on a leash and play really dirty,
Speaker 1: kinky sex games. He's uh the guy put the cock
Speaker 1: in the Peacock Network. Okay, bitch, Hey everybody. AJ benzire
Speaker 1: here with Fame as a Bitch. This is your daily
Speaker 1: Unfiltered podcast for August nineteenth, twenty twenty six, eight one nine,
Speaker 1: two oh two six Watching the Yankees and the Orioles
Speaker 1: at Canden Yards. It's so hot that the mascot a
Speaker 1: spring a hose on the people in the stands. Today
Speaker 1: was really hot ninety seven, ninety eight, Just the air
Speaker 1: did not move, you know, Like I get in the
Speaker 1: cars and tell my wife's car it's all black, black
Speaker 1: steering rail block, seeds, black exterior. It's like stepping into
Speaker 1: an oven. Like it's just like it takes me like
Speaker 1: a good three minutes before I can grip the wheel. Crazy.
Speaker 1: I was talking to Kenny and Mike earlier today doing
Speaker 1: the Everything as a Bitch podcast, and they're like, when
Speaker 1: you're coming out, I go, I really probably can't come
Speaker 1: out till September. I got things I gonna do. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna see a doctor for this stupid thing in the
Speaker 1: back of my throat or top of my mouth. In
Speaker 1: the back of my throat. They're like, don't even worry
Speaker 1: about it's ninety nine degrees here yesterday. Just better if
Speaker 1: you come in September, it's not going to be as crazy.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'll do. Although I was there a
Speaker 1: couple of summers ago, not too happy about the hurricane
Speaker 1: season starts in September September October of bed. If you
Speaker 1: remember a couple of years ago, I was in between
Speaker 1: two big hurricanes. I forget their names. I feel like
Speaker 1: both of them were kind of Hispanic names. Either way,
Speaker 1: I missed the first one, and then I said, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna stay for the second one. They
Speaker 1: were talking about arm again, and I was up in
Speaker 1: Kenny's condo where Michael is now. I don't know how
Speaker 1: many floors up, maybe five floors up, I can't remember.
Speaker 1: You know, the water was choppy as hell and the
Speaker 1: winds were man, it was scary. And then we drove
Speaker 1: down to Kenny's in Palm Beach and this beautiful neighborhood
Speaker 1: I saw a car upside down on its hood. So yeah, man,
Speaker 1: the wind is no joke out there when it hits.
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, probably September. You know, today's been one
Speaker 1: of those days. You know, you know, when you get
Speaker 1: in the car to do something you completely forget what
Speaker 1: you have to do. Well, let me tell you how
Speaker 1: much worse it gets. That's nothing getting in the car
Speaker 1: and forgetting where you're going. That's kids stuff. How about
Speaker 1: you're sitting on the couch and something hits you that
Speaker 1: you've got. Oh, I know what I gotta get. You
Speaker 1: get up from the couch. Eight steps in you go, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: wait what did I get? Let me retrace steps. I
Speaker 1: was on the couch, I was watching this movie. What
Speaker 1: do I have to get? I can't remember? So I
Speaker 1: got to go back and sit down. It listen, getting older,
Speaker 1: it's just the worst to forget what you It happens
Speaker 1: to me at least three times a day, like, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, what did I come in here for? Oh? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: then I come back. No, that's not what I wanted.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, it's no good. It's not good. I saw
Speaker 1: a video. You know, Opie and Anthony, the famous radio
Speaker 1: duo Anthony Cumia. I don't even know Opie's real name,
Speaker 1: I probably do. I forgot it, but obviously they split up,
Speaker 1: and Anthony's doing his own thing on Compound Media and
Speaker 1: doing great, and Opie is been chirping up and now
Speaker 1: he's with some guy I never heard of, and they're
Speaker 1: doing their own podcast, and Anthony Cumia and the comic
Speaker 1: Jim Norton are doing their own thing because Jim used
Speaker 1: to be on the Opian Anthony Show. I don't know
Speaker 1: why they took so many years to get together and
Speaker 1: do this, but now there's like they're firing at each
Speaker 1: other back and forth. So today I looked at a video.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure when this was, but it was definitely recently.
Speaker 1: Opie had Artie Lane on his show, and Artie's nose
Speaker 1: looks way better. Still a big dude, that's not going
Speaker 1: to change. But Artie said something really funny. He said,
Speaker 1: you know, when I got straight, I woke up and
Speaker 1: the Yankee sucked and the Mets were good, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, how It's Starne loved. Ellen DeGeneres is dancing.
Speaker 1: It's a great job because Howid would always make fun
Speaker 1: of Ellen's dancing, Jennifer Eninstant's this, and Jimmy Kimmel's dad,
Speaker 1: all the people he's friends with now he used to destroy.
Speaker 1: And it just goes to show so many of these people,
Speaker 1: like what happened to Perez Hilton, these people that they maligned,
Speaker 1: end up coming back to the fold and killing these
Speaker 1: people with kindness to the point where they've got to go, well, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: I'll come to your house party. Once you do that
Speaker 1: and you meet all their friends and you start thinking,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I said some awful things about that
Speaker 1: person and that person and that person. It was different
Speaker 1: for me because people knew what I did going in.
Speaker 1: They knew I was looking for stories. You know how
Speaker 1: it's turned. I would think it's the same thing. If
Speaker 1: you do an interview with Howard, you better expect to
Speaker 1: be put on the carpet and be presented with questions
Speaker 1: you're not ready to answer, particularly in public. But when
Speaker 1: I did what I did, people more or less new, Okay,
Speaker 1: be careful around Aja or whatever. And if I put
Speaker 1: something in my column, I didn't get maligned by them.
Speaker 1: I didn't get like people, you fucked me, you did?
Speaker 1: I mean, Ben's Stiller came at me once, not violently,
Speaker 1: he just was like, you really, you know you screwed up.
Speaker 1: My wife's really pissed and or his girlfriend at the time.
Speaker 1: You said I was having an affair with Genie Tripplehorn.
Speaker 1: I said you were. You were, Well, that's beside the point.
Speaker 1: The point is you said that, so you know erradically.
Speaker 1: I said, it wasn't erratic. Then I know you were,
Speaker 1: and that's my job. I'm sorry, but if it caused
Speaker 1: problems at home, maybe you should have done it better,
Speaker 1: been a better sneak. I don't know anyhow, they're together,
Speaker 1: then they broke up the other together again. So I
Speaker 1: didn't really get the shit that people that people give
Speaker 1: Stern because he changed so quickly. Well, I never changed.
Speaker 1: I was always the way I said I was. I
Speaker 1: never made myself nicer. I've seen him at Bill O'Reilly.
Speaker 1: I've gone down the list with you people before. These
Speaker 1: people who are great at what they do, they don't
Speaker 1: pull any punches the O'Reilly's, even if I may say so.
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson was that years ago. He's since become a patsy.
Speaker 1: He since becomes somebody who only interviews people that are
Speaker 1: very arrogant and against the current administration. He interviews people
Speaker 1: that are anti Israeli, anti Semitic, and he gives them
Speaker 1: some credibility because of his audience. They're all doing this
Speaker 1: and I'll get to somebody later that really pisses me off.
Speaker 1: I was doing it because she doesn't belong. This person
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about doesn't belong in his school yard,
Speaker 1: but the big boys, she just doesn't. But she's trying
Speaker 1: to keep up. She's trying to keep getting the money
Speaker 1: and the clicks and the likes. And sometimes if you
Speaker 1: live that life, you've got to not merely invent a scandal,
Speaker 1: but you've got to like pour gas on something that
Speaker 1: really is nothing. But keep pouring gas. Somebody light a match.
Speaker 1: This is big, and it's seldom big. But I'll get
Speaker 1: to her in a minute. But already was saying, look,
Speaker 1: Howard Stern could have been the guy who told the
Speaker 1: radio executives back then, fuck you. I make more money
Speaker 1: than all of you, and I can say whatever I want.
Speaker 1: I don't need to kiss Brad Pitt's ass. He needs
Speaker 1: to kiss mine, quite frankly. And it's just, you know,
Speaker 1: I love that whole family. I was in with the
Speaker 1: Howard's Durn Show, and I don't care how it ended.
Speaker 1: It ended how it ended. But when I was there
Speaker 1: was fantastic. As I said before, I don't think I
Speaker 1: would have lasted there because I didn't want to wake
Speaker 1: up at five o'clock in the morning and change my
Speaker 1: lifestyle to go on radio. It wasn't like I was
Speaker 1: being offered half a million dollars. It wasn't like that
Speaker 1: I was getting out five hundred a day. And if
Speaker 1: I got the job, which was the chair that belonged
Speaker 1: to Jackie Martling, if I got that gig, then i'd
Speaker 1: get a decent salary. But I wasn't thinking about that,
Speaker 1: and I lost it because I smacked out of and
Speaker 1: John you know the story. But I love the fact
Speaker 1: that so many of us were brought to Howard for
Speaker 1: innocent reasons. Like my mother, of all people, I began
Speaker 1: to when I drove her around after when I was
Speaker 1: separated from gen and my father died, and I'd take
Speaker 1: her to lunch or breakfast, whatever, and I put Howard
Speaker 1: stern on and she got to a point where she
Speaker 1: would laugh and go, well, don't don't, let's not leave
Speaker 1: the cardet. I want to hear the end of this.
Speaker 1: I want to hear the end of it. She became
Speaker 1: a Stern fan, and she never talked about Howard Stern,
Speaker 1: never talked about Imus. But suddenly she would hear Stern
Speaker 1: and she'd say, you should be on this show. He
Speaker 1: would love you. Ma, you can't just get on a show.
Speaker 1: This is before I worked at the Daily News. You know,
Speaker 1: I was a part time sports writer for Newsday and
Speaker 1: I had a full time job at a publishing company.
Speaker 1: I said, MA, yeah, okay, great, but I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: ain'tja he would love you. You talk just like he does. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, Ma, what do you want to eat? Give
Speaker 1: me a burger king, potatoes and a malten and they
Speaker 1: kid would look at me. What does she want? She
Speaker 1: wants a big she wants a whopper, vanilla shake, and fries.
Speaker 1: But she couldn't call it fries. She called the potatoes.
Speaker 1: She couldn't say milkshake. She called it a malted. She
Speaker 1: couldn't say give me a burger king. Now, Ma, you
Speaker 1: want a whopper, I don't care. Give me the thing
Speaker 1: that they sell. You know. And by the same token,
Speaker 1: Artie's father, you know, who fell off a roof and
Speaker 1: was a paraplegic before that happened, He would take Artie
Speaker 1: to work and one day he said, come on, come
Speaker 1: in a car, come to work with me. This is
Speaker 1: like nineteen ninety two. You see, you're coming to work
Speaker 1: with me. There's a guy in the radio. That's great.
Speaker 1: It's so funny. I think you'd love him. I want
Speaker 1: you to hear it. And Artie was like, yeah, okay, dad,
Speaker 1: And think about what trance. I mean, think about two
Speaker 1: parents who just feel like their kids would do well
Speaker 1: with this person. Is that If that doesn't tell you
Speaker 1: all you need to know about parents and what they
Speaker 1: know about their children, It's it's amazing, it's amazing. So
Speaker 1: the woman I was talking about earlier that has pissed
Speaker 1: me off, it's Maurene Callahan. She's got a column at
Speaker 1: the New York Post. I believe, No, no, no, that's
Speaker 1: the other one. I always get them concu it's Maureen
Speaker 1: with the blonde hair and the brown eyebrows, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And she likes to do the gossipy stuff.
Speaker 1: And she said complimentary things about me several months back,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate that. When she was talking about the
Speaker 1: John Kennedy and Carolyn Bassett series on TV called whatever
Speaker 1: was called loving I don't know, some bullshit, but she
Speaker 1: gave me some props. But you know, this woman, she's
Speaker 1: trying to keep up with the Magan Kelly's and the
Speaker 1: Alex Jones and the Carlson's, the canvae Owns. And you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't unless you want to sell your soul. She
Speaker 1: seems ready willing and able to sell her soul over nothing.
Speaker 1: So there's a video where Anna Faris from Scary Movie
Speaker 1: is talking about She's with the cast and they're talking
Speaker 1: to some interviewer about the movie, you know, and Anna
Speaker 1: Faris is talking and she seems fine. And Marine Callian
Speaker 1: sets this up by going, you're gonna see this video.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you right now, if you don't think
Speaker 1: Anna Faris is on hard drugs, then you don't know
Speaker 1: what hard drugs looks like. We've seen this many times,
Speaker 1: many times. Let me tell you so, Marine, I look
Speaker 1: at the video. She's completely fine. You know why you
Speaker 1: don't know what it looks like, Marine, because you've never
Speaker 1: done hard drugs. You were the kid in the playground
Speaker 1: that when the drugs arrived you ran home, you ran away,
Speaker 1: and good for you. But don't pretend like you know
Speaker 1: what it's all about don't pretend like, oh, I know
Speaker 1: hard drugs, so I hear them when I see them.
Speaker 1: Anna Pharaohs look completely fine. You want to call her
Speaker 1: too thin, sure, but that's a completely unfounded take. This
Speaker 1: is hard drugs, and what exactly is hard drugs? What
Speaker 1: is she doing pounding heroin into her arms? What's a
Speaker 1: hard drug? Cocaine is social even though it's terrible for you,
Speaker 1: it's a social drug. Well, is she sneaking meth at
Speaker 1: some cabin in the woods? No, No, she's just that's
Speaker 1: Anna Farres. She's flighty. She's a little bit cuckoo, but
Speaker 1: that's why she works in movies like that. Her eyes
Speaker 1: are always bulging and that's her thing. No, that's hard drugs,
Speaker 1: now it's not. But you know, they all want to
Speaker 1: get themselves involved in the circuit of people who are
Speaker 1: making the big money. You're never gonna make that money. Marine.
Speaker 1: I know you're making my money. I am you know,
Speaker 1: but you're not going to make the Megan Kelly Tucker
Speaker 1: call since Candae Owen's Alex Shones money. So just stop it.
Speaker 1: But what can I tell you? Everybody's out there trying
Speaker 1: to pick meat off the bones. That's all that's left.
Speaker 1: That's all that's left. Like that little chicken wing, that
Speaker 1: little thing at the end that people discard. I love
Speaker 1: it because it gets very crunchy, that little part of
Speaker 1: the wing. Right. I eat the bones at all. I
Speaker 1: eat it all because the bones are tiny. They crunch
Speaker 1: if you bake them, might they crunch. It's like a
Speaker 1: potato chip. Why did I get on that? Oh? Bones
Speaker 1: and all that's right? You want to know about hard drugs,
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Hayden Paneteer. I mean, Haiden Penetierry was
Speaker 1: on a lot of paint pills and I'm sure she
Speaker 1: had a lot of fun with the cocaine and a
Speaker 1: lot of booze nights. She was an alcoholic. She had
Speaker 1: problems with drugs. That's well documented. And somebody she calls
Speaker 1: her second mom, Lindsay Lnberg, talked about the troubling side
Speaker 1: of Hollywood that Hayden dealt with being a child star.
Speaker 1: You know, we often forget that she was in the movies.
Speaker 1: You know, ten years old, she was in remember the Titans.
Speaker 1: She had a great role. She played the coach's daughter.
Speaker 1: I mean that began her career, and she got older
Speaker 1: and better, and then she became a beautiful young lady,
Speaker 1: and she was a beautiful woman when she died. She
Speaker 1: just got involved with the wrong guy. But you know,
Speaker 1: this second mom of her, Lindsay Lonberg, says that she
Speaker 1: was offered pills on set. Hayden was and she referred
Speaker 1: to me in her book this woman says the book
Speaker 1: is this is Me a reckoning. She referred to me
Speaker 1: as her second mom. She was like a child to me,
Speaker 1: She said. She began her acting career as an infant.
Speaker 1: Tried and tried and tried to get past the struggles,
Speaker 1: but she was an actress. That sentence doesn't mean a
Speaker 1: fucking thing to me. Tried and tried and tried to
Speaker 1: get past the struggles, but she was an actress. What
Speaker 1: the fuck does that mean. She told me that when
Speaker 1: you go working on a set, all kind of pills, liquor,
Speaker 1: all kinds of things are available where you can get
Speaker 1: anything you want. That that's not really true, that's bullshit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there might be some people who work not on the movie,
Speaker 1: but maybe on the fringes of the movie, who are
Speaker 1: hanging around and maybe not that I've ever indulged in that,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure there are those people. They're bloodsuckers. But ordinarily,
Speaker 1: if you go to a movie, you're not. There's nobody
Speaker 1: walking around dealing drugs. You've got your sides, you've got
Speaker 1: your cold time. You know when you're gonna come out
Speaker 1: of your trailer and start working. I mean, the only
Speaker 1: thing I can even claim a little similar was when
Speaker 1: I made Rocky Balboa. And you know, the breakfast truck
Speaker 1: would come by probably like eight am or seven thirty,
Speaker 1: whatever it was, And you know, we had a lot
Speaker 1: of different things. My love and familia always had toe
Speaker 1: fu eggs, fucking pussy. You know, I'm getting eggs and
Speaker 1: cheese and dohl ding and Bert, Bert Young, We're getting
Speaker 1: a nice breakfast of bagel, cream, cheese and nice coffee.
Speaker 1: And you go to me, come in the room, come
Speaker 1: on my trail, and I'll have some drinks. And I'm like, Bert,
Speaker 1: today's a big day. I can't. I gotta be careful, Bert,
Speaker 1: come on, it's only eight o'clock. By the time three
Speaker 1: o'clock comes, you'll be fine. Like that's the way these
Speaker 1: old timers think. Now, Bert wasn't too good when he
Speaker 1: came to hold of his liquor. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: stories about Malon Brando needing his co stars to wear
Speaker 1: like sandwich boards on their body with his lines printed
Speaker 1: on them. During The Godfather, his lines are all over
Speaker 1: that desk when he meets Al Martino as Johnny Fontaine
Speaker 1: and he's petting the cat. Branda was famous for having
Speaker 1: his lines, and there's even pictures of other actors like
Speaker 1: Duval and such what Brando's lines taped to their shirts. Okay,
Speaker 1: Bert Young was different in the respect well, he wasn't different.
Speaker 1: He was just as crazy, but he was. He was
Speaker 1: he was zooted, he was loaded. You know when it
Speaker 1: came time to act Stallone, who'd been through this with him,
Speaker 1: you know, five other times in movies, five other Rockies
Speaker 1: before hours, he knew, get Bert, get him the cue cards,
Speaker 1: get him the ship, and Sly would hate it because
Speaker 1: Bert couldn't get it done because he was having bourbon
Speaker 1: at nine o'clock in the morning. And I knew that.
Speaker 1: And that's part of the reason why. And I've told
Speaker 1: this story years ago that as much as Bert Young
Speaker 1: helped Sly actually write or let's say, rewrite some of
Speaker 1: the Rocky scenes over the years, he Stallone didn't pay
Speaker 1: Bert for Rocky Balboa. We were working for weeks and
Speaker 1: Bert still didn't know what he was going to make.
Speaker 1: Bert wanted a million bucks. He figured he did all
Speaker 1: he could with the franchise. He helped put it on the map.
Speaker 1: He's an integral part of the movie and the franchise,
Speaker 1: and Sly wouldn't pay him. They wouldn't agree to the million.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it came down to at the end,
Speaker 1: but by the time the movie ended, they reached some
Speaker 1: kind of accord and Bert got paid. But you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, Sly work with him many times before. There
Speaker 1: were some people that go to a movie set and
Speaker 1: get fucked up at get in trouble. Some get fucked up.
Speaker 1: It can work, and some just would dream of doing that.
Speaker 1: But you know, this second mother of Hayden Peditier, she
Speaker 1: didn't have a chance. I don't think she should have
Speaker 1: gone down the road she went if it hadn't been
Speaker 1: for Hollywood. She was always in Hollywood as an infant.
Speaker 1: She was there, I mean, but you know, that's all
Speaker 1: she knew. And then she has a daughter with Vladimir Klitch.
Speaker 1: Go back in twenty fourteen, he gets custody because she
Speaker 1: was always too fucked up. So now she figured, now
Speaker 1: she can work on being the great actress. Then she
Speaker 1: did Heroes and you did Nashville. So she was making
Speaker 1: money a couple of movies here and there, trying to
Speaker 1: overcome her problems. I mean, she could have quit acting,
Speaker 1: she could have walked away from the adulation and the
Speaker 1: fame to be with her daughter. But like a lot
Speaker 1: of people who get a taste of fame, they're not
Speaker 1: ready to give it up. And that's all she knew.
Speaker 1: She'd been in front of a camera her whole life.
Speaker 1: It was the one thing she knew how to do well,
Speaker 1: how to make a good living. But you know, if
Speaker 1: your baby daddy is the former heavyweight champ, let him
Speaker 1: make klitch go. I'm sure there's enough money lying around
Speaker 1: for her to stop working and just be a great
Speaker 1: mom for a few years and maybe go back to
Speaker 1: work when the kids a kindergarten, something like that. But
Speaker 1: instead she talked candidly about her substance abuse struggles back
Speaker 1: in Well. She wrote that memoir several months ago. She
Speaker 1: said she went to rehab because she became dependent on
Speaker 1: alcohol after the birth of her daughter. I don't that
Speaker 1: sentence right, there. You needed alcohol to cope with the
Speaker 1: birth of your infant daughter. That right there is weird
Speaker 1: to me. You needed alcohol? Why then she turned to
Speaker 1: prescription medication to deal with the anxiety after season four
Speaker 1: of Nashville began filming. You're filming a show. You're getting
Speaker 1: paid big money. I'm gonna guess and say two in
Speaker 1: a thousand an episode. I could be way off, but
Speaker 1: that's another guess. You need pills to deal with that.
Speaker 1: You have anxiety about that. It's season four, one more year.
Speaker 1: You're talking the syndication unless I'm talking like the old
Speaker 1: days but used to be five seasons. You're ready to go,
Speaker 1: and that means money forever, mailbox money forever. But no,
Speaker 1: she needed to feel better about herself. Hold on, I
Speaker 1: gotta try to put this fan on. It is so
Speaker 1: hard to be in this room at ninety eight degrees
Speaker 1: with no AC and no fan. I put the fan
Speaker 1: on ahead of me, above me. You might hear a
Speaker 1: little whirr, but I can't take it. My hands are glistening.
Speaker 1: I gotta start doing the show late at night, not late,
Speaker 1: but when the sun goes down, because it's way too odd. Anyhow,
Speaker 1: how about a hand for Johnny Depp. Johnny Depp, the
Speaker 1: word is he might reprise his role as Captain Jack Sparrow.
Speaker 1: There's a new Pirates of the Caribbean movie coming out.
Speaker 1: Do you say Caribbean or Caribbean? I say Caribbean. I
Speaker 1: think both are correct, but I like Caribbean. Oh did
Speaker 1: I say Caribbean? See? I forget. I guess I say
Speaker 1: him both. I don't know. Apparently there's a screenplay that
Speaker 1: they're working on. Jerry Brookharmer said, we're trying to get
Speaker 1: this done. He's been on record saying that this would
Speaker 1: be the sixth movie in the Blockbuster franchise, and actually
Speaker 1: it's gonna focus on Margot Robbie and Johnny Depp would
Speaker 1: come back as a side character. I'm not again seeing
Speaker 1: Margot Robbie as a pirate. I'm not a seeing Margot
Speaker 1: Robbie as anything. And if you guys haven't seen Babylon yet,
Speaker 1: you have to because that's a different side of Mango
Speaker 1: Robbie you've never seen. You gotta see it. Sexy, crazy, insane,
Speaker 1: beautiful everything. It's a great role for her. But yeah,
Speaker 1: this is I mean, this is a big move for Johnny.
Speaker 1: Johnny Depp. I mean, this is huge. We got what
Speaker 1: he did. I mean the first one was the first one,
Speaker 1: Curse of the Black Pearl with Orlando Bloom, who I
Speaker 1: hope we never seen a movie again. Remember him? He
Speaker 1: was so hot with Katy Perry, tried to get Sydney Sweeny.
Speaker 1: Way has he been? He felt the face of the
Speaker 1: earth after that whole after the Travis Taylor wedding, he
Speaker 1: just kind of dropped off. He's gone good. Then he
Speaker 1: did Pirates of the Caribbean, dead Man's Chest, and then
Speaker 1: Pirates of the Caribbean at World's End on Stranger Tides,
Speaker 1: and finally Dead Men Tell All No Tales. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: these movies made almost five billion dollars in the worldwide
Speaker 1: box office. If you're a studio head, you're gonna green
Speaker 1: light the next movie. You just we always talk about
Speaker 1: where Lightning struck once before. That's how Hollywood picks the movies.
Speaker 1: They're gonna green light. Well, Lightning is definitely struck here.
Speaker 1: Even though Johnny went through some shit, what Amber heard,
Speaker 1: I think the prevailing notion is everybody knows that even
Speaker 1: though he's a little crazy, that she's even nuttier. And
Speaker 1: she did things way beyond the pale to try to
Speaker 1: fuck up his career, and it worked exactly opposite. And
Speaker 1: I mean, look, when you got kids around the world
Speaker 1: loving your iconic role, it's tough to walk away from that.
Speaker 1: It's guaranteed money in the back. Even if the movie sucks,
Speaker 1: every kid's gonna want the next pirates of the care
Speaker 1: being toy. Whatever they do at McDonald's are burniking. It's
Speaker 1: even if the movie doesn't work, there'll be another ride
Speaker 1: at Universal. There'll be toys, lunchboxes, and the studio will
Speaker 1: recoup its movie. But it's gonna work because it's been
Speaker 1: a while and people want to see a big comeback
Speaker 1: from Johnny. And I think he's I think he'll do it.
Speaker 1: I think he should do it. He's playing ebony'ze a
Speaker 1: Scrooge right before Christmas in a Christmas Carol that's coming
Speaker 1: out in mid November. He shut up at San Diego's
Speaker 1: Comic Con without telling people who he was, and he
Speaker 1: shocked the shit out of everyone. He won the case
Speaker 1: against Amber Heard. She's literally not working anymore. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know he's getting older. I get it, you know,
Speaker 1: and but you know, this is kind of a lesson
Speaker 1: for all of you who think think that life doesn't
Speaker 1: give you many, if at all, second chances. You want
Speaker 1: to rewind and go over what Johnny Depp allegedly did
Speaker 1: while he was with Amber heard. Look, their marriage was shit. Obviously.
Speaker 1: I looked at her the first time I saw her,
Speaker 1: said she's beautiful, but there's something white trash about her.
Speaker 1: And boy was I right. I'm getting tired of saying
Speaker 1: boy was I right? But I knew it. Beautiful girl,
Speaker 1: little white trashy. Have some fun. Don't go too deep,
Speaker 1: don't get too far, don't get too long with her.
Speaker 1: She'll pull you down. She's one of those people. If
Speaker 1: they're drowning, you try to say them, they drown you
Speaker 1: at the same time. She's like that, you know. But
Speaker 1: he's getting a little old in the two. I mean,
Speaker 1: the next movie, if they make another one, should be
Speaker 1: The Pirates of Palliad of Care. It's getting to that point,
Speaker 1: you know. But I'll watch you with the nieces. Won't
Speaker 1: watch it alone. I'll watch them with little girls. I
Speaker 1: love Johnny, but I know what kind of acting he
Speaker 1: considers important and vital to the arts, and he knows
Speaker 1: this isn't it. I know he believes it. He believes
Speaker 1: if he makes a handful of jernk Off movies for
Speaker 1: the studio, then he's allowed to make one for himself.
Speaker 1: And I love that. A lot of actors get that.
Speaker 1: Otherwise we wouldn't have seen so many interesting films from
Speaker 1: some of our favorite actors, because the industry concept that
Speaker 1: I'm talking about is traditionally known as, look, you make
Speaker 1: one for them, make two for them, and they'll let
Speaker 1: you make one for you. So it's two for them,
Speaker 1: one for you. That's pretty much the approach. And there
Speaker 1: are major movie stars and directors across Hollywood. George Clooney,
Speaker 1: Scarlett Johansson did it, Chris Evans so I can't stand
Speaker 1: Robert Pattinson. A lot of these guys and girls have
Speaker 1: done that knowledge that you know, there's a there's a transaction,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a balance between what we're cast in
Speaker 1: and then what we want to do. We'll do the
Speaker 1: big commercial studio blockbuster, and that's just going to build
Speaker 1: up my marketability so I can get a green light
Speaker 1: for a passion project that I've wanted to do since
Speaker 1: I twelve years old. That kind of shit and the
Speaker 1: best person at that is Matthew McConaughey. I mean mcconniey
Speaker 1: made the silly rom coms. For years. I used to
Speaker 1: dislike him so much. I hated his haircut and I
Speaker 1: would always say, he's got baby arms. His arms were
Speaker 1: like dinosaur arms. They were too small for his upper body,
Speaker 1: and I was we used to make fun of he's
Speaker 1: got baby arms, and we do like tyronosaurs rex arms,
Speaker 1: like we do lines for mcconniey movies with dinosaur arms
Speaker 1: like Arona a Rna, Right, but it was dinosaur arms.
Speaker 1: You if you haven't seen it, take a good look
Speaker 1: at the length of arms. They're too short. But either way,
Speaker 1: he did the rom coms, and he's on record saying
Speaker 1: no movie he's ever done gives him more mailbox money
Speaker 1: than ten Things I Hate about You? Or was it
Speaker 1: twelve Ways to Lose the guy? One of those silly
Speaker 1: fucking rom coms he did that cleaned up and he
Speaker 1: still says the mailbox money is huge. Just to give
Speaker 1: you an idea of mailbox money. Okay, I was friends.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen him for years. There was a waiter
Speaker 1: at Ago named Scott Scottish guy had the great Scottish
Speaker 1: bro but he could get rid of it and speak
Speaker 1: perfect you know, California English, if you will. And he
Speaker 1: was in Titanic. He was also in Black Mass with
Speaker 1: Johnny Depp. You had a nice role with that. But
Speaker 1: in Titanic he spent I think twelve weeks on that
Speaker 1: ship on the set a lot of times or not.
Speaker 1: All the lives you're basically your residuals come down to
Speaker 1: how much time you spent on the movie. He's on
Speaker 1: there twelve weeks on this makeshift ship and his line
Speaker 1: was Iceberg ahead, that's Scott, okay. And at some point
Speaker 1: he owed me money because I was dealing shit for
Speaker 1: a while when I was broke, and he was buying
Speaker 1: my stuff and he owed me, like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty bucks or something. I come to
Speaker 1: see him always Scott. Now he's at the back. I said,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? You got the money? Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm only get it tomorrow. And then one of the
Speaker 1: bartenders grabbed me and said, Scott showed us a residual
Speaker 1: check from Titanic. I said, really, how much was it?
Speaker 1: He goes, you have no idea? What was there? One
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty thousand dollars. I said, this motherfucker can't
Speaker 1: give me one hundred and fifty. That's it. I went
Speaker 1: in the back. I'd read him by the collars, you
Speaker 1: cock sucker, you are you fuck. I'll go to the
Speaker 1: bank tonight, Jesus Christ one hundred and eighty grand. That's
Speaker 1: why a lot of people get into this game. Man.
Speaker 1: I tried to get my SAG pension, right. I go, well,
Speaker 1: I've been in nine movies. Three of them made money
Speaker 1: Rocky Ransom, Conspiracy Theory. The rest are independent movies that
Speaker 1: didn't make a big splash. But what have you and
Speaker 1: I talked to After they said you've got a SAG pension?
Speaker 1: I go great, So I started talking to SAG. Hey,
Speaker 1: send me the paperwork. Okay, get this notarized. Do this.
Speaker 1: We need a divorce decree from your first wife. We
Speaker 1: need a marriage certificate for the It was a whole rigmarole.
Speaker 1: And then I go. The lady goes, well, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at your casing. You're not vested. I'm I invested. I
Speaker 1: made a bunch of movies that made money. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: but the way it works is and then I just
Speaker 1: I started to fade out because I can't hear things
Speaker 1: like that. The way it works is basically, you've got
Speaker 1: to do two movies in a calendar year, like right
Speaker 1: after one another. I'm like, okay, I didn't know anything
Speaker 1: about that, or or you could if you did three
Speaker 1: movies and five. I said, han, I'm sixty four years old.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing two movies next year. I'm not doing
Speaker 1: three in the next five. So you're telling me there's
Speaker 1: no SAG money for me. I'm done. Well, freak, I'm afraid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm afraid you're right. Thank you, seg What the fuck
Speaker 1: is that all about it? Anyhow? So, yeah, there's money
Speaker 1: in this business, but there's money in the fact that
Speaker 1: you do whatever you can do for them so you
Speaker 1: can do your own passion projects. And mcconnie he was
Speaker 1: the king of that. I mean, he got to a
Speaker 1: point where he said, I'm gonna do films I like
Speaker 1: the ones I feel in my bones. And he told
Speaker 1: his wife at one point the beautiful Camilla Alvis, I
Speaker 1: was offered twelve million dollars for this movie. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna do it. She's like, are you sure we could
Speaker 1: really use that money? He goes, no, if I take
Speaker 1: that money, they're gonna people offering me shit if I disappear,
Speaker 1: And then suddenly they're gonna ask, where's Matthew mcconniey, just
Speaker 1: like Johnny Boy said not, there's AJ. Where's AJ? And
Speaker 1: eventually he brought them projects he wanted to do, and
Speaker 1: then little by little he brought them in these and
Speaker 1: the result was great. It began with something you probably
Speaker 1: never saw or heard of, called thirteen conversations about one thing.
Speaker 1: I'm sure his agency was out of their mind. Well
Speaker 1: you make this, you could make twelve million tomorrow, wouldn't
Speaker 1: do it? And then the stringer movies he made and
Speaker 1: my opinion made his career, The paper Boy, Magic, Mike Killer,
Speaker 1: Joe Mud, Dallas Buyers Club, and let's not forget his
Speaker 1: turn on TV True Detective, and he and Whaty Harrison
Speaker 1: made it so that no other acting door can leave
Speaker 1: a better mark than they did the rest of those seasons.
Speaker 1: I forget who else was in it but Jody Force
Speaker 1: at yet the fuck got here what he had met
Speaker 1: with the best. And by the way, there's another one
Speaker 1: that's coming out to a theater pretty soon. He's in
Speaker 1: something called The Rivals of Amsia King Crazy idea backwards
Speaker 1: of Oklahoma. This musically gifted a guy named Amzia King.
Speaker 1: He's got a bunch of misfits, bluegrass misfits, and he's
Speaker 1: got this honeymaking operation in town, and when his daughter returns,
Speaker 1: he wants to got to revolve in a family business.
Speaker 1: It's all who knows that this is going to be
Speaker 1: a hit. But I trust mcconnoey over the years to
Speaker 1: know that he can sense when something's right. So I
Speaker 1: support him and I'll always watch whatever he's in. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry that was a long tangent about that shit, but
Speaker 1: it's funny. The other day talking about acting and what
Speaker 1: these people are going through, one of my buddies on
Speaker 1: Patreon sends me a video of Jeremy Piven walking down
Speaker 1: the street in Hollywood to get stopped in the street
Speaker 1: for an impromptu interview. He's wearing his ear pods. You know,
Speaker 1: he's very polite. Oh hi, hi, I caning to interview him.
Speaker 1: What is your name? What do you do as momb
Speaker 1: an actor? And your name Jeremy Piven? Like, first of all,
Speaker 1: how do you stop somebody with not knowing their name
Speaker 1: and what they do for a living? So right, there.
Speaker 1: You know it's bullshit, But I'm watching it and my
Speaker 1: buddy says to me, these interviews can't be real. I said, no,
Speaker 1: this is all fake shit. They're setting these things up,
Speaker 1: and so now I know why they're doing it. There
Speaker 1: was an article today explaining this very phenomenon that some
Speaker 1: of you might see come across your Instagram feed. So
Speaker 1: there's these a list Hollywood publicists that coordinate these street
Speaker 1: interviews with influencers. And they call these influencers to cover
Speaker 1: their clients because a lot of them do like daytime
Speaker 1: talk shows or Good Morning America, which really doesn't give
Speaker 1: them enough time. So when they leave these particular sets
Speaker 1: and their full makeup, and they've got hair and makeup
Speaker 1: looking good, then the publicists will set up an impromptu
Speaker 1: phony interview in the street. Why waste twenty five hundred
Speaker 1: dollars worth their hair and makeup, right, let's get him
Speaker 1: in the street. And actors are now understanding this, and
Speaker 1: these street videographers their phones are ringing off the hook
Speaker 1: because Hollywood press agents are tipping them off to catch
Speaker 1: their stars for these supposedly spontaneous street interviews. Because you
Speaker 1: know what, Sherry's off the air thank god, Kelly Clarkson's
Speaker 1: off the air. Thank god. If you're a publicist and
Speaker 1: you need a press stop, it's not easy to get
Speaker 1: on Good Morning America or get on Jimmy Fallon. So
Speaker 1: they've got to figure something out. So between ten thirty
Speaker 1: am and three pm, if your client has paid twenty
Speaker 1: five hundred bucks for hair and makeup, you can catch
Speaker 1: their clients getting coffee for a street interview. Because they're
Speaker 1: all trying to take advantage of this bubble. Right now,
Speaker 1: that's happening. Less talk shows, very few nighttime talk shows,
Speaker 1: and the daytime talk shows are being taken away. So
Speaker 1: now what are actors supposed to do? How are they
Speaker 1: selling their wares? And some publicists say it's a huge thing.
Speaker 1: What's great about the street influencers is that they can
Speaker 1: come to you, so when a client is leaving in
Speaker 1: today's show, they can bang out one of those interviews
Speaker 1: outside the show. Except it looks fake, It looks phony, Hollywood,
Speaker 1: don't you get it? And there are some people in
Speaker 1: the talent business who go, I'm not doing this. This
Speaker 1: is so phony, it's stupid, But the studios will demand it.
Speaker 1: If you're in a movie. They've sung a lot of
Speaker 1: money in, or if you're on a TV show, they've
Speaker 1: sunk a lot of money in, and you can't really
Speaker 1: say no. There's just so many less shows to be
Speaker 1: on to plug what you gotta plug. And studios are
Speaker 1: now pushing projects that you know that they think they
Speaker 1: can take their talent and since they can't plug them
Speaker 1: on the View or Jimmy Kimmel or Kelly Clarkson. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of shows on Hulu, Netflix, Apple A twenty four.
Speaker 1: These are apps that several years ago didn't want on
Speaker 1: a late night TV show interview unless it was a
Speaker 1: runaway hit. So there's so many shows now, as all
Speaker 1: of us know. You sit down on your TV, you
Speaker 1: look at Amazon, you look at Netflix, you look at Peacock,
Speaker 1: you look at whatever the hell you got, and you
Speaker 1: can't find shit to watch. And these publishers are trying
Speaker 1: to figure out, how can we keep our actors happy
Speaker 1: so they keep paying us because they keep getting noticed.
Speaker 1: It's a tough game. I mean it's a tough game.
Speaker 1: I mean even the stupid show Hot Ones where people
Speaker 1: eat chicken wings, that is hard to get booked on.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine people can't get booked on a show
Speaker 1: where you eat hot chicken wings, which I would never
Speaker 1: do if I was a celebrity. Give me a fucking break,
Speaker 1: you're gonna watch me suffer drinking hot wings. No, I
Speaker 1: would never do that. Man, they'll get you. On Amy
Speaker 1: Poehler's show, Good Hang, she's only making twenty four million
Speaker 1: to sit across a desk from friends of hers and now,
Speaker 1: as we understand, have interviews she knows she's having because
Speaker 1: these people need help. They need to push their movie
Speaker 1: or the TV show, or their book or their record. See,
Speaker 1: that's what I didn't want to happen to podcast. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to become another spoke in the wheel where
Speaker 1: all these asshole celebrities are pushing something. That's why in
Speaker 1: my talk show, my main rule was, no one is
Speaker 1: pushing anything. They're not trying to tell me about their
Speaker 1: new movie, their new book, the new song. Nothing. We're
Speaker 1: just gonna talk as adults. I don't give a fuck
Speaker 1: what they're doing. I'm not gonna publicize it. I'm not
Speaker 1: if anything, I'll publicize me and my show and my
Speaker 1: bosses Like, well, you can't just talk about yourself. I'm
Speaker 1: not just gonna talk about myself. But I'm gonna talk
Speaker 1: about myself because I think I'm interesting and I think
Speaker 1: I'll make them laugh and the audience will laugh too.
Speaker 1: If that doesn't work, it doesn't work. But that's the
Speaker 1: way I want to do this show. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: do the typical thing. Hey, so by the way, we
Speaker 1: have a clip. Let's let's let's take a look at
Speaker 1: the clip. I'm not doing that shit. And you got
Speaker 1: actors like you know, Timothy Shallaman, who Andrew Garfield. They
Speaker 1: took advantage of this shit. They started promoting movies. They
Speaker 1: were in in ways that no one's ever done. People
Speaker 1: thought they were crazy, but they're trying to find the
Speaker 1: new niche of how to publicize yourself. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: gotta be better than sitting across from Stephen Colbert or
Speaker 1: Seth Myers who's on a seven week break and Jimmy
Speaker 1: Fallon does four shows a week, and Howard Stern's gonna
Speaker 1: do one show week. I mean, give me a break.
Speaker 1: How many years do we know, Angeline Taylor Swift, Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 1: So many people would tipping off paparazzi to find them
Speaker 1: at a park with their kids to get some good
Speaker 1: press and People magazine or in Style. It's been going
Speaker 1: on forever. Why not use these paparazzi. Why not get
Speaker 1: some influencers who can ask some silly questions for four
Speaker 1: minutes and have your big star walk away thinking they
Speaker 1: plugged the movie. They plugged themselves, and they can justify
Speaker 1: paying you your twenty five thousand dollars a month as
Speaker 1: a publicist. But that industry is gonna fall apart two
Speaker 1: pretty soon. There'll be no publicist to that degree where
Speaker 1: you got to pay twenty five grand a month. Give
Speaker 1: me a fucking break. Let's start using robots. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at I saw robots now run faster than Usain Bolt
Speaker 1: and they can jump over hurdles seven foot high. I mean,
Speaker 1: what are we talking about here? The whole world's changing.
Speaker 1: Talk shows are the least of it. Anyhow, Gang and
Speaker 1: going to make some hamburgers a rock another forty three
Speaker 1: minute show. Look at me, look at me. You thought
Speaker 1: I was getting slow, You thought I was mailing, and
Speaker 1: you son of a you want to know better. I
Speaker 1: don't mal shit in, but I'm done with this show,
Speaker 1: and I'm aj Benzon. That was your daily Unfiltered podcast
Speaker 1: for August nineteenth, twenty twenty six. We will talk again
Speaker 1: tomorrow