Speaker 1: All the damn work I put in with you, Blue Fisto,
What can you do with this person who is new?
So they look good, you look good, and everybody's safe.
Speaker 2: Jeff Lippman. It looked like she was too slow for school,
but she came out playing the hot, mean girl.
Speaker 3: The hardest work you're going to do in this business
is not physical.
Speaker 2: It's going to be the creative psychology side.
Speaker 1: Wait them, bright, boy them Frette and tell him. Season three,
episode eight, Is there a brand news Zena? Do you
think there is? You will know by the end of
this episodes or maybe anyway, Well, the show start with
her friend Chris Allen once again. Are you happy to
see him? Did you think you would see him again?
Speaker 2: Yes? I thought we would see him at least one
more time on this on this season, just to see
where things went south. But you know, I'll reserve on
that for for what we saw tonight. As far as
the whole new Zena, I don't want to spoil anything,
but we'll certainly get to that. And and that has
been a question that you and I have been asking
for the last four weeks or so, like, when are
we going to see this new Zina? And but who
are you?
Speaker 4: And I I was going to say, I was going
to ask you, I am lopis though, and this is
a lawyer extraordinary, a chip flipman dose.
Speaker 1: E bully evil dose? Depending on what side of is
it the universe? What's what's what's the side thing in
the universe.
Speaker 2: I didn't send the upside down because of the whole
stranger things thing.
Speaker 1: You know, sout of heaven and a nord of hell.
I guess, so are somewhere between were the opposite?
Speaker 2: Yeah, all depends, Oh depends.
Speaker 1: It's one of those days.
Speaker 2: It's been weeks.
Speaker 1: Oh what a week, and what a week for Chris Island,
who says like, which which is funny that he actually
at the beginning of the show, he actually like He
says that he needed validation that since no one was
saying anything, it kind of messed him up. He didn't
know who he was anymore. But apparently now he knows.
He can look in the mirror and he sees a winner, baby,
and there's none like Chris Island.
Speaker 2: Well, he is the first one in and the last
one out every day, and he was asked to find himself.
He's the hardest worker in the room. But then he
said something that was interesting. He said in ww E,
there's a lot of hard workers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so, yep, well.
Speaker 2: He did say it. By the way, I don't know.
We were not certainly weren't wishing this on anyone, and
I don't know there would be. We were being prophetic.
But Mason Holliday was asked to be released, and she
was granted that release. As we said, seems like a
wonderful person, very nice person, so she'll do any many
fine things. But she didn't really seem to be getting
this at the same rate as the other people who
started around her, and some of them had lapped her.
And you know, this is the PC is single A.
You know, maybe Evolve is double A. Maybe it's also
single A. I don't know. But the point being is
that single A baseball teams are not supposed to produce
twenty five or thirty five Major leaguers per year. Maybe
they advance, you know, a third of the squad to
double A or triple A, and then you know, and
your triple A, you know, your farm system, you know,
maybe gets you two or three position players a year
and two or three pitchers a year. If you haven't
a really great year, and this is meant to weed
some people out. Uh and so Mason, you know, weeded
herself out. And again that's that's luck to her. I'm
sure she's gonna I'm sure she'll do great things in
this world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we still don't really know what's the main reason.
There's rumors that she kind of got tired of like
she's been losing for over a year and nothing was
moving forward and it was really stagnant. Maybe that would
be why she left, but there's there hasn't been any Uh.
I was going to say press release, but even like
Instagram posts or anything directly from her that that explains anything.
She just changed her indo back to or shoot name
and that's about it.
Speaker 2: I think all I saw is that she lacked the
heart for it, and that seemed like it was a
quote who was a quote from I don't know the
inference was it was attributed to her that, but that
doesn't make it so. I don't I can't imagine how
someone this sneer end would care about winds or losses.
I mean, first of all, they should train you not
to really care about winds or losses. You know, if
you're advancing, you're going to start to get more winds anyway,
and if you advance far enough, you need to get
some losses too, unless you're you know, Roman Marines don't
have a title run for four years, and even then,
you know almost all of those winds are tainted. So
you know, I can't imagine wins and losses matter. She's
smarter than that, everyone around a smarter than that. But anyway,
whatever it is, maybe she just didn't see, you know,
she wanted to go out on her own terms at
her own time, as opposed to maybe she saw writing
on the wall. Maybe she listened too well to you
and I, But.
Speaker 1: Oh well, anyway, so apparently everybody is wants to work,
asking Matt Bloom are we working this week? They're exciting
and this week the meeting there is of course Matt Bloom,
Kevin Stein, Kevin Owens, goddamn the shit booker, and Johnny
Gargano is back back, back back in the house and
he's actually the first one is going to get a
match this week between Jamie Garcia and our friend Chris Hyland. Apparently,
well apparently we know that they mentioned again that he
doesn't know who he is in the ring, and Booker
said something about him being on the bubble. I couldn't
really figure out if is it in the bubble on
the bubble? I couldn't hear him. I don't know if
you could explain that to me.
Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly the word it'll use, but I
think I think the ext question is on the bubble
because because you know, the if the bubbles stay solid,
you're still moving forward. Of the bubble pops down, you go.
But you know, I think, you know, I think basically
maker or break it is is what he meant. And
all right, Johnny Gargano is so much more interesting in
these morning meetings than than he is at most anytime
doing wrestling. And I will can I will I will
exclude from that the skits when they were doing the way,
those were very funny. So he's he's a naturally funny guy.
I just think he's better suited to be a manager.
But his addition here was they want him to work
specifically with Romeo. I'm sorry Romeo is his name now,
it's I'm sorry Jamie Garcia. Because Jamie was was coming
from the Indies and and as they put it, had
a lot of bad habits to break. He was a
little gritty, a little flippy, uh, you know, a little bendy,
and Johnny's like, yeah, I you know, I'm I have
an affinity towards that I can from the Indies. I
root for these guys and I was one of those guys.
But I can I can tell he needs to be
more gritty and less bendy and and you know, and
I can help with that. He was rather silent on
on Chris, but I mean, Chris is just a PC guy,
so you know, I guess he sort of knew what
his training regimen had been for the last two years.
But yeah, an interesting pairing there. We're also told that
the KO is going to get Nathan Cranton, who we
all know now is Tristan Angels, and he's going to
get Smike Deruda, who you know is Dorian van Do.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: They've made a they made a pretty big deal that
that Mike de Ruda was excited for Ilio getting called
up right away, but he was sort of wondering why
not me, and so he sort of has something to
prove there. They all like Nathan or Nathan I'm not
sure how it's pronounced. In Canadian But Keo said something
pretty funny. He said, you know, he's basically ripped off
Triple H's Hunter Hurst Helmsley. But it's been twenty years.
I'm like, dude, it's been like thirty years since he's
Hunter Hurls Hellsley with the you know, like with the
blue Bloods Gamick. But yeah, he's like, and if you're
gonna rip someone off and it's been long enough, Joel
H is a pretty good one to pick, so I
mean hard I had to argue with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't disagree. It's just I feel that Naythan
is more of a pretty boy than a blue blood
kind of eye class. I don't know, He's more of
the pageant guy to me, and like, I see the resemblance,
but it's different. To me, it's similar, You're not the same.
Speaker 2: Remember remember we told that his origin story didn't quite
match with his attitude. But we both both sid Yeah,
we we both decide to agree that once won Mister
England and and became into wrestling and star waring beauty pageants,
that all of a sudden he became like new money.
So you know, now he was now he was in
with the in crowd and then part of the Hoi
polloi and the the He made it into the elites.
But you know, I guess every now and then he'll
you know, get back to a sheepherder. Shepherd, uh roots, it's.
Speaker 1: With the bushwhackers, right right, of course?
Speaker 2: Who else? I mean they had a jack victory? Why
not him? The last pairing was interesting because this this
was a request a Nakida Lynes requested to work with Booker,
but Zena Sterling, I'm not I wasn't clear that she
requested to work with Booker, but it's pretty clear that
she wanted to work with someone other than Baba. Not
because she doesn't love him, but she just needed a
different voice. And and everyone agrees she needs to hear
a different voice. That she was favorite to win season one,
she was favorite to win season two. What happened? She
didn't win either, and you know, everyone sort of feels
like we did that she's she's role playing as a wrestler.
I've used that she acts like she's one of the
actresses playing a character on Glow rather than even the
Glow wrestlers themselves from the eighties.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because I mentioned that I think that's
the last thing I said about Zena last season. I'm like,
she needs a new coach. She needs someone else. He
can't see her flaws and she has many every all fixable,
all things that she can fix, but she needs someone
else to tell her that her It's like her shit
didn't stink, but it did, so she needed someone that
told her. And I'll get right into the mess run away.
Speaker 2: But the exchanged with Booker and Johnny go down Santaspas.
Bookers like, don't worry, I'm gonna you give me sixty
minutes with her. You're gonna get a whole news z
and then and then he starts backing off from it,
and you know they wanted he's a hand thing. Yeah,
they want to put their hands in the middle again.
Of course Johnny and k are there, Bloom is there.
Booker doesn't want to do it, and he's like, you
guys don't know how much work I have ahead of me,
and Johnny kind of goes, yeah, we do sixty minutes.
Speaker 1: You just said, so.
Speaker 2: This is when I like him. This, this is this
is funny stuff. But yeah, and then we got like
a vignette from Jamie, you know, talking about his time
in Spain and the Indies and all that. I don't
know that it revealed very much, but I mean at
least it got to you got some introduction into the kid. Again.
His his name in there, I don't know his last name,
it's Romeo something in wrestling, and they haven't paired with
no Am Dar so he was in evolved when almost
right up to n next to you, he's sort of
doing both right now, so you know, obviously they have
a lot of faith in him. So yeah, but yeah,
I guess we can go into the you know, go
into the matt except to point out that one the
Jennie Garcia of the Face once again came out first.
Speaker 1: Yes he did, and I thought it was funny that
he mentioned that, you know, like every young kid like
in Spain, he tried soccer, but he fell in love
with wrestling. He went to school in psychology, but he
actually dropped out because WWK calling, which is cool and
not although I always believe he should have a plan B.
But I mean, good for the kid. So, like you mentioned,
Gargano has a soft spot for the indie guys because
he comes from there. He knows what's like. He understands
the transition that is not always easy. He wants the
babyface to fight from underneath, and he also mentions that
actually that's where he mentioned something about Christy says he's
got a great attitude. He has something special, but he
needs to save the moments and kind of work with
the levels, which is like time not scream for no reason,
like it needs you need to scream somewhere, you know,
in particular, not just like when you.
Speaker 2: Feel like it that that this is true and you know, listen,
I'll say for for Jamie Garcia, he came out like
a ball of Spider Man energy. He was like flying
all over the place. He was doing like little flips
and rolls and I'm not sure if it wasn't too much,
but I liked it as an entrance. Somebody sort of
kept doing it, like when the when the bell rang,
he did it like it was almost like a head
fake or a mind game. But it looked a little silly.
But I think our focus needs to be on Chris
because when he came out, I wanted to see what
was new? What was new?
Speaker 1: Lou boxing wraps. Okay, it's funny because just like you mentioned,
like for Jamie, like I wrote down, like he moves
and slides like Spider Man. Like there, that's really like
how I saw it too, is like he's moving like
Spider Man, like low to the mat on the floor
and just sliding so easily. It was like, Okay, that's
kind of.
Speaker 2: But it's it's it's similar in that in like their
bodies are almost like fluidy, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean Chris had Jane's and he did
talk to the crowd, did a little.
Speaker 2: Gloves, very tough, yeah, kind of rapping rapping.
Speaker 1: So the the first thing that they they did, like
they mentioned that the Jamie was also a freestyle amateur,
like he had an amateur of a ground, so we
would see him like out wrestle Chris right from the start.
Chris also has like a background in wrestling, but they
just wanted to see like, remember the baby face always
needs to out wrestle the heel, and of course here
although he came out as baby face ish, like, we
get from the beginning that Chris is gonna play the heel.
So he goes to the outside and pulls the hand
through the ropes, boom, and he's losing time talking crap
before the Babyface goes into a shine, which I thought
was a lot better from Chris because he I always
felt like he was rushing into things like or he
would talk and then like it didn't make sense. But
now you know, he did a dirty thing using the ropes.
He turned around kind of played the crowd. That's where
like you see, like, okay, he's a heel, he's kind
of killing time a little bit too much. Babyface is
still fresh. Boom, Jimmy starts his shine. Then there there
was like I don't know, like a drop kick. Oh yeah,
it was like a drop kick thing tackle. Then I
thought Jamie was good at working the crowd, although working
the crowd before a pin that was a little bit
too much, but at least like he had eye contact
with them. He would like look at them and ask
them to cheer, which is more than you know, a
lot of people we saw like looking at the mat
or Xena was one example that she was working the
crowd like facing down, like not up at them. But
Jamie already has that. So Chris, Chris catches Jimmy, then
catches again into a spinebuster, and then he gets on
the attack. And I thought like there was like nice
good punches right there. From they eat, they go outside,
there's choke, there's a solid stump at one point, I'm like, oh,
that looks a little stiff like the stuff. But it
looked good. And the fist as well. I thought Chris
Island was a little bit more like a little bit
more vicious, a little bit more into it from what
we saw last time. There was no like screaming in
between that were I felt like he was more in
control of everything. The babyface was fighting back from underneath
would get cut off again. And one thing that they
did I think in every match, the heel being Chris
Island here work a hole to get the crowd riled
up and clapping for Jimmy to you know, try to
get back on track and try to get control of
the match. Goes into a go behind than a elbow,
than an ad lock, and a high bellied the back,
which was like I don't know if you notice garganos
like whoa, and he had like little hands like oh
like oh my god, that was like yeah, jazz hands.
So that was a cool, cool way to get back
like it looked devastating enough for the heel to stay
down for the babyface come back and some forms a
running kick to the face a corner tackle. He kind
of slipped there. I'm not sure what happened in the corner,
but then went into what I could call a Greco
Roman throw into a pin. Then that's there that the
Chris Hiland grabbed the rope. Then that's I don't know
if there's anything you want to say before I get
to this point, because we're getting to Jimmy goes for
a soup lex and then Chris doesn't really go up.
He goes up and down and he's so his ankle
and then Jamie's selling his neck. That was like really
confusing to me. I'm like, what happened? Like they both
got hurt or I was like at this point, I
was like because I felt like they had a good
rhythm until until that first slip in the corner on
the comeback, and then that's suplex that nothing was.
Speaker 3: Clear on who was supposed to go down on this
one or like yeah, and then Chris came down a
little hard on his ankle, and of course he's where
he's wearing sneakers and like not even high top sneakers,
so he's not really wearing wrestling shoes, and you know, afterwards,
Johnny asked him, I, you know, are you okay? It's
like I thought you hurt your ankle on that, And
I guess Chris was just working it, saying that, you
know that that's the reason why I couldn't, you know,
carry him and Romeo, I'm Jamie.
Speaker 2: He's still Jamie. And this was, you know, still selling
that his neck was hurting him. But it was like
it was a confusing sequence. It was a bit of
a botch but I you know, but they they recovered
from it, and I can't remember exactly what Chris's finisher was.
It was very physical. It was some sort of package pile.
Speaker 1: Driver, like a gut wrench GTS, Like YE had him
in a gut wrench but ended up like I needed
a face. That's why I called it like a gut
wrench GTS, because that's what it kind of looked.
Speaker 2: It looked good.
Speaker 1: It was different.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 2: But I say this, this is why Chris drives me, Baddy.
I mean, I guess it shouldn't he shouldn't any more
since he retired from from wrestling, But I mean, his
earlier performance this season was terrible. It was embarrassing, it
was cringeworthy. In past seasons, he's shown signs of being
good bad and could be very good. I thought this
was generally speak looking very good. This was his best character.
He was acting normal, he was dangerous. It was sort
of like a heel Steve Blackman kind of persona. You know.
He was just serious, angry, unforgiving, relentless. His punches in
the corner was solid. He like didn't stop until six
or seven of them. I just thought this was the
best I'd ever seen him look totally as a package,
except for the watch and listen weary wrestling boots or
you know, have wrestling boots that are designed to look
like MMA shoes or whatever. Could you know, could if
if this is the act that he wants to continue,
that the you know, I don't know that attire needs
to be part of the act anything and be part
of I'm a dangerous guy. But after seeing this, I
want to see more of him. But you know, he's
so hit or miss uh And I have no idea
when his release occurred in the context of the season
of LFG before during, well not before, but during or
after or whatever, you know, or when he decided to
retire if it was just a hymn thing or like
he got word from him, you know, who knows. But
so it drove me crazy because this guy, this this.
Speaker 1: Work, he could work.
Speaker 2: You know, he's there were there are worse workers on
un Evolve and on on XT and then TNA and
the Triple A. I mean this guy not not not
Chris's overall body of work, but this guy anyway, a
little bit frustrating, but uh, it is what it is.
Speaker 1: Maybe there was not enough consistency, like a lot of
bad and then something really good and then bad and
give it so maybe they can do they can rely on,
like who who are we gonna get today? Like good Chris,
very good Chris or very bad Chris. Like maybe it
was it was too much to deal with. And actually
Chris says like, hey, the match was great, which I think, like, yeah,
the match was was going very well until that slipping
and then soup spot. The finish looked good. Gorgana was
like concerned about the ankle, and then that's where Jimmy
says like, oh, I tried to kind of sell the neck,
so that was kind of planned, but he made it
so small that it didn't show what he was actually
trying to do it so instead of being exaggerated, and
that's what I'm selling it, it looked like a shoot,
like a real injury because it was kind of subtle
and holding his necks like, oh, the pinched nerve or something.
What happened?
Speaker 2: So what was coming off a box and I think
it was supposed to happen is he was supposed to
take the super relex and you know, we get up
not just his head, you know, not just his lower back,
but also his neck would still be hurting. But it
wasn't to be. But Bloom agreed with us. He also
preferred the Dangerous Killer Island. He gave him positive the feedback,
or at least that's all we saw as far as
Jamie was concerned. He said, you know, get rid of
pandering to the people before the cover. That's sort of
in the You need to you know this early and
you need to go to the wind. We can revisit
when there's when there's time for pandering and show voting later,
don't don't completely like get it out of your toolkit,
but for now, we want you to learn the basics.
And I just find all that's so fascinating. And I'm
sure it's what you did at your school, and I'm
sure it's what they do at you know, some of
the better schools. But just trying to get the basics
and then you can sort of get the flamboyance added
on top of it, you know, the pumping circumstance.
Speaker 1: I like to add in like the in between, just
so people are used to it. But yeah, it has
to be done at the right place when you're when
you just hit a big move, it's it's it's a
sense of urgency. You want to get the pin. You
want to get the one two three, so as soon
as possible, you want to cover your opponent. But I mean,
if you do something fancy in the oponent like whoop
ends up out, well work the crowd, pander there, like
the opponents too far away an you wait to grab
a pin, so celebrate whatever whatever and then keep going.
But for a pin, I absolutely agree your guys down
you want to win, you know, Oh yeah, wrestling is fixed,
but at least, you know, make it seem real to
the point where like guys down trying to get a
one two three on him. So yeah, definitely it was
it was a good performance for both guy little uh, misstep, miscommunication,
whatever happened at the end, but until then it was
good and the last few moves were good too, so
it should happens. But they kept going. And yeah, I
agree with you for Bloom said that finally Chris was
showing range and I felt it was not exaggerated the
way he tried the week the not the week, but
the time saw him before it was more natural. And yeah,
I mean, I don't know if we're going to see
him one more time in this season.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be very curious to see if there's some
sort of blow up or disaster that that led to it.
If not, I guess we'll have to wait for one day.
If when he does an interview.
Speaker 1: Maybe, but he's retired, so who knows. But two people
are not retired or actually on TV, and one of
them was actually on tour in Europe.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: These fine folks are Natan Kratton and Mike the Ruder. Mike,
I can't remember the new name. It's I know it's DVD.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's Durian van du van Dux Ducks.
Speaker 1: Okay van Ducks, oh d yeah, like Ducks, d u x.
Speaker 2: Right right, Yes, he's a Flemish gentleman. He's from Belgium, Yes, Flemish.
Speaker 1: So that was fun to know that they actually got
picked up on the same tryout in London, both of them.
And yeah, Naytan again always more of a triple h like,
but he needs he needs to be more vicious, like
when he's he's beginning to beat up his opponent, there's
nothing pretty about him. He's vicious, he's dangerous, so he
has to kind of find that middle ground of being
mister mister England and the evil, conniving, vicious heel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so as I got to turn that gear from
from methodical to vicious, I did. I was getting a
little nervous because I could tell I didn't know what
was going on in the band when they were sort
of booking the match and there was this other guy
in there and they're like, he's going to use you
as a shield and also figured out you know, I
didn't recognize. I'm like, oh my god, that's the ref
that they're been gonna have a bit where they're using
the reft as a prop and I'm like, wow, this
is great, this is ambitious. Let's see how it Let's
see how it turns out. It's like that uh so
that that meme where that's a bold move Cotton, Let's
see how it works out.
Speaker 1: You know, it's to have a great opponent, really is
you know, it's something that how can I explain that
it's great to have a great uh it's great to
have a great opponent, Yeah, of course, but having a
good referee that's that knows where to stand and be
at the right place at the right time. It can
help a match, so much like having a great ref
is so important. Like I feel they're underappreciated, under raiding
to the the role they have to play during a
wrestling match. So I like that they actually showed that.
You know, they involve the riff and they have to
get ready and they have to plan a few things too,
Like they're part of the match. They don't take the bomb,
but they don't do the fighting itself, but they are
part of it. And I like that we saw that,
and actually I love that the It was Kevin and
Beifusic talking about, you know, being gritty and being rough.
It seems easy, but it's not so coming from two
guys who were like, who can be visious actually, and
I love for the beginning of this match, Crampton came
out first, which was great.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 2: First, yes, I will say, I will say that I wrote,
I typed the word Hugh, I'll say for you. And
then the only criticism I had about the entrance is
that not not Cramptons, this was perfect. Is that when
the Ruder came out, I wouldn't exactly call his entrance facy,
which I guess is okay, but in this context I
don't think it really is. I think they should have
done a few things to you know, I don't know,
a couple of years and fists up to the you know,
to the crowd or whatever, you know, fist bumps some
people something, I don't know. It just it seemed a
little bit dry. I especially with the style of match
that they ultimately worked. Wasn't really clear that the ruder, yeah,
the ruder was was the face at any point, except
that Angels was so much of a heel. But they
almost sort of worked at the same pace and in
the same way, except that the ruder wanted to do
some more high spots. You know, he loves to show
that for for a big guy, and you know, he
he you know, gets very offendive if you don't call
him again. He's like me as a little he is
he's a tank. He's a thick, solid guy. But he's
not O but fammy, he's he's you know, he's you know,
sort of you know, seven eighths of Roofsev but still
big guy. And he and he likes to fly around.
Not not typical, but he I think he went to
that one too many times, you know, sort of showing off.
Speaker 1: But I don't really have a problem with that. When
you're a babyface and you know, Crentton is so good
as a heel that even if you're if you're let's say,
if you're more of a low key babyface, if the
heel is so strong. That's why, like, if you have
a great heel, your job as a babyface is so
much easier because people are gonna aid him so much automatically,
you don't have to do much to end up being
the babyface. And you got a big guy. And they
also mentioned that he's a he's a Belgian powerhouse. So
I don't see him coming out like all happy and
slapping hands. And yeah, there should have been a hint
of a smile a little a little something that tells
me a little bit more babyface. But at least the
commentators were selling the fact that he, you know, he's
a belt in powerhouse and he's serious, and I like
that he was going like, I don't know if you
noticed that he was going from I'm enoughts to I'm
serious and then like he would switch his space in
a way where he was smile crazy, He's.
Speaker 2: Like, but he he did a smile onto the camera,
but then he did like like I'm gonna bite you
kind of thing, which again not exactly facy.
Speaker 1: So the two sides of the.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say, I mean there was there was a cutter,
and I guess, depending on who you you either think
was very impressive that he got that far or you
think it looked a little bit too contrived to cooperative,
which is what I thought. I thought that the rough
spot was deployed really well. It was executed almost perfectly,
and then we got the shooting stars pressed for the
the ruter win, which was the second you know, from
the top row move. I these two do work together,
and I don't want to say they're too comfortable. It's
just I don't know they were both in the same gear,
you know, And I think that's sort of what Chao
is saying. You say, I'm very pleased with the execution.
Your stuff looks great, but there was no there wasn't
the emotion. I said, too methodical, which was directly mostly
to Nathan mister England, which I guess I agree with,
but it takes to the tango, so you know, the
other guy could have been playing a little bit more
facy as well. I though with this character, I guess,
you know, he's just one of those tough I'm really good,
but I don't cheat faces as opposed to there being
a character. So I mean, I thought that was fair commentary.
And maybe I sound like I'm more critical than I
am because I actually thought it was largely a good match.
But I did notice, I'm not really sure who's the
good guy, who's the bad guy, who I should be
rooting for, who I shouldn't be, except that Nathan is
such a great heel in such an obvious heel that
there wasn't a question if the ruder was in there
with a different opponent, you know, maybe like Elijah or
you know, Chris, maybe we'd have no idea whose face
or heel the whole time.
Speaker 1: True, it's just that, you know how we always say
make everything bigger, and as a heel, your your role
is also to slow down the pace. So when the
baby face picks up and fires up, there's that switch,
there's a you know, switching gears where the babyface goes
like bo bo bom and then gets the crowd going.
And I felt that Natan and Kao's like right on
palm when he says that, like everything was great technically,
like right from the lock up. You see that Mike
is the stronger one and but he's gonna be he
still plays by the rule. You know, That's how you
can tell. Also, he's a babyface. When the referee tells
him something, he listens. He's gonna listen to the counts
or whatever. And you know he also acknowledges the crowd
without being you know, over the top baby face. But
you see Nathan pulling his hair eye rake, you know,
to bump him because he's also, like you said, a
thicker kind of guy. So how how is Nathan gonna
bring him down? He's gonna cheat hair eyes. But the
problem is that when they go outside even a little
bit before that. Uh, the ruther attempts like a up
and over in the corner and Nathan grabs in and
it's like so de Rudo ends up his balls on
the top rope. But everything was done so quick, and
I felt like the heel was not celebrating this enough
or kind of you know, when the referee comes on him,
it's like, hey, you can't you know, you can't do
that whatever, and I didn't do it, Like he didn't
sell it, like oh, I don't know what you're saying,
blah blah blah, like he fell by himself, like kind
of cocky ish like, oh, it's not my fault kind
of thing, like he did not sell what just happened.
And the same thing happens outside where you know, he kicks,
he kicks the ruter gives him a big club in
the back and then table but everything is so quick. Uh,
there's no pauses in between. There's the there's nothing that
tells me heal And I think Ko actually explains it
at the end where you know you hit him, you
should like either talk crap or he has the type
of character where he can talk the crowd. You know,
did you see what I just did to the big guy.
He's down, I'm mister London, blah blah blah, And there
was nothing of that. I felt he was so focused
on his wrestling that he kept looking down instead of
looking up and playing with the crowd and taking his
time while while Mike would be selling to the next
spot or maybe a little bit further. So he would
come with a kick and Mike could roll away and
they could go like almost all around the ring instead
of staying in that same spot at the so what?
Speaker 2: And he was also he was also playing to the
working to the crowd and forgot he's on TV and
was with his neck to the hard camera. And you
know I didn't. I wasn't cognizant of it, of it
on a forefront level. As soon as Bloom said it,
it's like, yes, that's part of what was flatting this match.
And it goes hand in hand with what you were
talking about that they were seemed to always be in
the same spot. Now, this this stuff will come with time.
So you know they and you know both these guys,
you know they can do the moves and all that,
learning how to dance better and which direction to face
and stuff. Like that is going to be And I'm
sure it only gets easier if you're if you're used
to playing to the crowd when there's weding this crowd
on all four sides of the ring as opposed to
know what I even as.
Speaker 1: A baby face when you're selling, you can turn yourself
towards the camera. And then he was going to place
himself like because you're already facing it. But even like
I felt like the Ruter was not he I felt
he was more used to it, like he would try.
But then Nathan, there's a spot actually where and I
think it's Blue mentioned it like the Ruter is selling
towards the camera, but then Nathan goes right in front
of him and we see his back. We can't see
the Ruter's face in pain, so we can have any
we can have any like we can't feel sad for
him or whatever or want to cheer him. We can't
see like his suffering so because we see the guy's
back in ass so but you know, overall, uh, yeah,
it was a good match, really impressive to see the
doing like the shooting Star. It was clean, you know.
I like also that Nackan when he did a guillotine
knee drop, and there was a one two. He didn't
He was pissed at the kickout, but not like you know,
the like when they overdo it, mouthed open like it's
the end of the world, but it's not your finish.
You're not supposed to be that surprised. But I liked
like he was pissed, but not like too much where
it's like I'll just like, but yeah, work the camera more,
slow down, focus on what's between the moves instead of
just doing move move move, And I mean this match
is gonna be like very very good if they just
fix little things and actually slow down, just just slow
down and yeah and maybe try if you're gonna use
the rut as a face, maybe trying to find the
way where he doesn't look silly doing babyfaces things. But
that makes him a little bit more likable.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Elijah was talking maybe about fist pumping people instead of
clapping or things that are still like works with the character,
because yeah, you see a big guy going like, hey,
clap my hands. It's it's not like, uh, when the
New Day was coming out and they're all happy and
it's like a celebration. Then clapping hands like it's it
just goes with it. But him, I was like, yeah,
that wouldn't that wouldn't work. But there's things to do
to make it better. But yeah, I mean the ruler
is always positive, like you know who he is, so
and I yeah, I like that. He was like like, yeah,
everything's gonna be okay, like he's doing good and obviously
is that. I mean, they put him on the shows
in Europe, so of course they see his money, especially
in around his own town or in Europe where he's
wrestled before, so he knows these money.
Speaker 2: So I would I would be invested in seeing him
and a tag team with Rus seven and maybe Tristan
Angels and they're all in the same faction. I don't
know if they get Eliel to turn to the dark
side or the European Union or something. I don't Yeah,
I know England's not part of the EU any longer,
but it doesn't matter for wrestling terms. Uh, for wrestling purposes?
Speaker 1: Was it in ninety three? The foreign fanatics?
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, I don't think we need that. Well no,
oh my god. I mean I'm not saying the European
Union is great either, but you know, at least it
makes a little bit of sense. But yeah, fact that
could be fun. But none of this really matters because
we have a main event and we have a big
question to answer, and you know, this is the Booker,
Nikita and Zena show at this point, and frankly, it's
really the Booker and Zena show because it is very
clear at this point that they don't look at Nikita
Lyons as a student anymore. They look at her as
someone that's going to help elevate the younger talent. Already,
she's already proven herself, or at least that's what it seems,
and she seems to have the confidence in herself as well.
A well deserved congratulations, young lady. I was not I
was a bit of a skeptic in the beginning. I
like some of the moves. I wasn't as enamortor with
some people. But I saw you did the work. I
saw what you did in Evolve. I saw you sort
of go from overacting into finding a character where you're
acting was actually fit perfectly and seem to have instant
chemistry with a variety of different people because they came
in and out like Iarana Grace who then went to
tea in And then you did it with a little
bit with Layla and and and Mason, and there were
some with with with other women as well. I could
see it with chan teal Monroe. I can see it
easy with Chelsea Green, like yeah, I could, you know.
And and now they seem to have repaired with Carmen Petrovic,
with the two of them with their kicks and stuff
and a little bit of Natty, And if Natty saw
like their manager on the outside, you know, they could
be an interesting tag team. But anyway, I'm delaying because
did Booker turn Zena from a lark wrestler live action
role playing into an actual wrestler.
Speaker 1: I really like what he said to her. He's like,
you need expert tutelage. You need to react instead of acting,
and you need you have to stop playing wrestler to
actually become, you know, being a wrestler, and you need
to look in control. So I was like, hmmm, It's like,
as much as I was not too fond of Booker
the Fat season, I feel like is the way he
teaches his advice are like so good, right to the point.
He doesn't sugarcoat things and it's like you have to
remember the little stuff, don't rush.
Speaker 2: And well he was also purposefully bearing Bubba without venturing
his name. But he wasn't wrong. Nobody was wrong. I
mean we talked about it. She got too much too soon,
and and it it arrested her development. So she did
need a different voice. So she came out first.
Speaker 1: Yeah she did.
Speaker 2: No, yeah she did. And she came out with new
poppy music. I'm not sure if that music quite fits her,
but at least it was something new. It it fits
her outfit, but it doesn't fit her. I think the
whole thing about her outfit is the Alphit it's not
supposed to be on her, like she's supposed to look
like a little doll, but she's actually like like she's
a doll that, you know, like became the she Hulk.
I don't know. I didn't love the music. I don't
get too hyped up on music generally, but when it's
not good, uh Like, I agree with Bloom that Nathan
Cranston Tristan Angel's new music was much better.
Speaker 1: It was great, it was perfect, and I'm actually not
sure Zena is really into it too, because I felt
what she came out she didn't look as confident at least,
I mean she looked serious. She didn't look like over
bubbly and and kind of fakesh. At least that that
was good.
Speaker 2: No, he me? Who me?
Speaker 1: And the ring?
Speaker 2: How about how did I get here?
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was like I don't know if it's
it was the music that didn't fit her where I'm
not sure I like the dress.
Speaker 2: I used to be. I can.
Speaker 1: I can talk about it myself because I used to
be a Japanese anime. But here's the thing. I was
playing the paradox of being an anime where I was
when I was coming out and like the in betweens, everything,
I was like really excited, over the top, and I
had the little skirts and everything. But then I would
get like very vicious, very violent, and there was like
such a clash in the look and the wrestling that
it separated. It fit together by being so different. The
fact that she's like kind of nothing is over the top.
On both sides. It's like like, oh, you overdo it
or change and be seen use and forget about the
dress and get get like a one piece like Natty
or so you look strong and you look like I
don't know an athlete, like not none of this. She
doesn't look like an athlete with a dress, but more
of a fighter kind of look ish.
Speaker 2: You could do like a like a like the Black
Widow from from Avengers kind of thing. Maybe make it
sleeveless because you know, you know, or make it a
little you know, I don't know what the cad is,
but you know where it cuts up middle of your
traps and and down sort of you.
Speaker 4: Know that like.
Speaker 1: Like the one piece. Okay, not not the very sexy
want from the run.
Speaker 2: Sexy, but because because her shoulders and traps are are
so big and she's so broad that I think that
would show that.
Speaker 1: It shows that she's strong, she's an athlete, that she's
she's a pretty girl, but she's she could be a
threat as well. You should play with that. And that's
why I'm like, I'm not sure at the dress stance,
because what do you want to present?
Speaker 2: And Mom made those dresses for her, so they're nice.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, either you play with that where you
come out like super freaking bobbly, but as soon as
you hear the freaking she loses it and then it
becomes freaking violent like you have to play with it
but nothing yeah, like not being like in the middle
or like uh yeah, you gotta work with it or
change it. That's that's what I feel.
Speaker 2: But she was definitely more serious. She was using more
power and strikes. She was bigger, meaning that she was
making more sounds, and her arms were going more up
top not all down below. So she had taken advice.
I definitely thought that she was better. I'm not sure
it's enough with this stage, but I came out of
this match definitely seeing the potential in Zena again. But
if you know, they were forced to make cuts, and
not that they are, but they were forced to make cuts.
I don't think she would survive the cut, but they're not.
There's there's there's still time. And then I just hope
Nikita doesn't need this show. Yeah, doesn't need the show.
Speaker 1: And Nikita came out and I was like, she has
such a good entrance, and I think that right now
she found the right.
Speaker 2: Groove. She found a groove.
Speaker 1: Well you know how Booker was telling her, you know,
be sexy, but not too much, like she has the
perfect balance. Now she's sexy, but she's not like trash.
She's like she's she's a badass, but she's fucking sexy
at the safe. It's like the perfect combination. She's fucking sexy,
like you know, a guy would want her as a wife,
but also would ask her to beat someone up because
you can believe she can kick some ass. So I
was like, I think she found the perfect balance.
Speaker 2: So I love that.
Speaker 1: Yes, you could be fucking sexy and you could be like,
you know, like I'm a dream for whoever's watching, but
also you can make people believe that yes I I
you know, maybe I'm in your sexy dreams, but I
can be in your nightmares as well, because I could
kick your ass. And I feel like that's where she's at,
and I feel that's where female wrestlers should be. It's
a little like Riho Ripley could do. Like it's a
little bit like that. You got people who got you know,
major carushes on Rhea. But she also looks like she
can kick your ass, so you know it's but Nikita,
she's more sexual.
Speaker 2: Yes, even doesn't even have to be. I mean, Live
Morgan is a great fan fatale, but she's more like
the conniving you know, anning, sneaky, tricky, tactical, but she's
vicious when she needs to be. I mean, yeah, but
I agree. I think Nikita has definitely found her space
and and and she can also be a little funny
and quirky but still be a heel. It's it. It's
not easy and and she got it and and she
and it and the one nice things about having followed
a ball from the beginning and having covered it before
night off to cover it anymore, because those folks, you know,
sort of rescued me. But it's like all sudden, like
it was like a snap and like a light went on,
and like from one just one week to the next.
And also it was like a whole different thing in
the ring, and then like four or five weeks later
it was a whole different character. And it's like the
first week was a little bit too campy, and then
the next week she got just right and she hasn't
lost it sense, And I like this.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, I love when people call me just
like yeah, there was a strong lock up, and I
thought the same as you, Zena. She looked a lot
more solid. Both of them were working the camera compared
to the match before they were working the camera. Xena
had her face up, her clotheslines, solid clothes lines, finally
making her sound, and she had solid cover and everything
she did with her face was so much better. It
didn't look like cheesy and overacting. It looked real, It
looked painful, it looked like, I like when she went
for covers and she would just stick her tongue out,
it just came out like so naturally. So I thought
they gave her a little a little cool side, like
look at her, like she's she's she's a cool gallon.
She can get gas, you know. There was a big
freaking back elbow to start to eat from the Kita
Nikita the knees, and I love that. At the beginning
of the match, Zina was working her arm and the
whole match, Nikita was selling her arm from those arm
bar From the beginning of the match. The punches to
the gut were good from Zena. She had good intensity.
But that's I thought, that's the thing that I think
she still needs to work on the punches, maybe throw
them a little bit further and kind of it's really
hard to explain where you need to look stiff without
being stiff, where you can't have your arm being too
kind of sluggish or like, but it needs to look
like it hurts. And she's almost there like leaps and
bound from other matches that I've watched from her. But yeah,
she needs to have like that stiff miss in her
body where it looks like it hurts, not like it's
but she's almost there.
Speaker 2: There was like he said that, he said that he
was nitpicking, but he said and he sort of suggested,
he said, he basically said, you know, I didn't use
punches that much. I would, I would, I would very
I would go from chops to forum chop forum chop
form and then when I did a punch it really
meant something, you know. So I don't know, but like
you know, Jeff, Jared doc Gallows, they have very good, exaggerated,
you know work punches that obviously don't hurt anybody, but
they look like they do. And you're right, it's so
much of the of the recoil and the kickback is
on the the backhand part of it, you know, the
wind up, you know, and then the forum part is
actually shorthanded and it's verified. And maybe she could do
that or just say we do what Booker says. But
Booker said it was almost spot on. And you know
what for someone who made a promise to put in
gives give me sixty minutes of work, and he said,
I'm not going to give you a whole news in,
but you will definitely be on the right path now
when he mitigated the expectations down to that, when he
was getting away from being braggadoto, she's Booker and just
confident coach knows what to do with student Booker. I
think he delivered on this promise. I think he kept
this promise of give him sixty minutes and he's going
to and he's going to get someone on the right path.
So kudos to z you know, kudos to Booker, Kudos
to Nikita because he helped him. But you know, I'm
not gonna say it was the greatest match in the world,
but I thought it was a perfectly good television wrestling match.
If this wasn't on LFG, it could have been on
Evolve and it probably even could have been on NXC early.
I love.
Speaker 1: I just want to say one more thing that I
love that they were selling to the next spot, Like
if Nikita needed to be in a corner, she would
get hit and move herself to the corner. There was
no you know last week, I was like, oh, why
so many whips, whips to the corner, this whip to
the rope whipped the is like you no sell to
the next spot. First of all, you're not going to
be as blown up and it's not gonna look as
kind of shitty. Yeah, I said the word shit so
many times and uh it was Bailey's match from last week.
It's like I said, I've never said shit that much.
But yeah, I love that they were selling to you know,
the next spot. And the finish was great where Zena
goes for she attempts to gut wrench and then there's
a back kick that she ducks, and then there's another
one coming right away, right on target, and she fell
like a second potato one, two three, and once again
Nikita's selling is still selling her arm from the beginning
of the match. So to me, it was the best
Xena match And I was like, yeah, Nikita's ready for NXT.
I was like, I don't know how long you can
keep her there. I mean, if you need her as
a ring general, I do agree, but from what I saw,
Like I remember when she first got to w W
and of course because of her look and her thickness,
which I do appreciate tick ladies, because back in my days,
if you we were thick, we were called fat and
it was terrible. But everybody is like, oh my god,
like they were putting her over so much. And I
would watch the wrestling and.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh God, like I have a little
confession on that. Yeah, I'm starting to find less toxicas attractive.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, there's let's say it. There's a lot of
booty there.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of booty there. There's a lot of
booty there. I'm starting to find.
Speaker 1: Her like, yeah, I think it's no, it's I think
it's Lady Maddina. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what. I don't know what it's
like without the mask. I'm not sure that they care
what it's like without the masks. So but yeah, I've
I've come a long way from saying they let pregnant
women wrestle to kind of did those women.
Speaker 1: Of course they're stronger and they could kill you in
just the last shot.
Speaker 2: I just was that that seems like a nice way
to die. Sounds like a nice way to die.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, overall, is is it a brand
new Zena? Uh not yet, but is it a much
better Zena? Oh my god, yes it is. I've been
saying it like she needed another coach, she needed another
coach and you know, once one shot or I don't
know really how many shots with Brooker t but I
all a major improvement and pretty much everything in this match.
So we are good stuff Zena. I mean, I'm I'm
looking forward to what's next. And she want a brand
new Zena. I'm I'm, you know, try a new character,
try new gear, try something more. What is she doing?
What was she doing as a sport before? Is she
track and field? What is she?
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good question. Yeah, I remember I think
she was a lifter. I think she was a powerlift.
She might have been track and field. Also look like
doing like shot put?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the well they're wearing those one piece gear,
the the you know, they should they should try to
get something closer to that. I think she would be
one more comfortable and why not why not use the
colors of Ukraine.
Speaker 2: She she's one of the only all along. They just
so for anyone who doesn't follow her on social media
or doesn't spend all their time on social media wrestling
and see it. She has been showing a new look.
Her hair is shorter. It's not short, but it's shorter,
and she's wearing like mostly black leather. I mean some
of it is casual wear also, but also some of
it looks like wrestling where sort of a little bit
like the Black Widow thing, but not not exactly. And
they teased on Evolve that she was throwing a temper
transtrument and she was gonna and that something had to change,
and we haven't seen her since on Evolve with that
and in LFG, I sort of figured that that would
be the debut because it was so long ago on
Evolve and they film LFG and Evolves sort of they overlap,
so I was hoping we actually saw the new so
I was a little bit disappointed, but then she sort
of performed well, so so maybe next time she'll have
the new look as well, and that will maybe that'll
sort of feel like a new character. But I'm with you,
I lean into I mean, Lana without the accent was
definitely not the same as Lana with the accent.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely absolutely. I miss Lana with the accent.
Speaker 2: With with.
Speaker 1: They were such a great team together, good times and.
Speaker 2: I love too. I got and I think there's one
one more shot for for for use Day and you know,
and like I said, you know, bring bringing the EU.
Speaker 1: So come on, Ti Ko, you know you want to
sell more shirts.
Speaker 2: I know there's this Dan Housen thing. Can't stay stay
hot forever.
Speaker 1: He's doing pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's a sensation. He's he's literally a phenomena.
Speaker 1: But I hope he gets I hope she gets a
blimp or a balloon or something at the Basis parade
full of monies, full of human monies falling from the sky.
Speaker 2: No disagreement. I mean, I I have, you know, I
have a Dan Housen baseball jersey. I have a Dan
Housen you know, COVID mask guy. You know, so I've
got I've got the March gone back a while from.
But yeah, Dan Housen down Zena, uh and Xena maybe
not Zena. Maybe she'll just be Zeno or maybe just Starline.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but we'll say zenas in Nope, agent Z,
agent Z. Anyway, I thought that was a pretty good
episode for I'm kind of getting used to this format,
but I feel like the past two weeks have been
I don't know, like the flow of it was better
than the first ones. I feel like I remember the
first episodes, I was like, oh, this is a little long.
Now I feel like, Okay, that went by fast. It's
maybe it's because the matches are a little bit better,
or I see people getting better, or I don't know,
it's just the flow is just better. So hopefully it
keeps going this way for episode nine, which.
Speaker 2: Will be I also think one of the things we've
probably missed in the beginning was the sort of the
competition between the judges and how they were snipe sniping
with each other. But I think actually with that gun
and now being used to it, we can actually focus
on the wrestlers in the actual co chain.
Speaker 4: Ye.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's better or just different,
but I like it. I agree with you. I thought
the last two episodes were quite good. I think it
also helps when you don't have something silly like I
mean no offense. I personally, but Andre Chase did not
need to be on LFG, and neither did the Polo Cruise,
and I think it was actually cruel to do that
to them, given what they did because you know, I
mean I did two rants last week on it, so
but but yeah, I do like the format. And I
guess this was episode eight. What was last year fourteen
episodes something like that. Yeah, so you know, we're we're
not in the final stretch, but we're approaching the final stretch.
I don't know what that means, since people have been
getting contracts sort of along the way and being sent
to different places. They're talking about Triple A a lot.
I know the news of the day today Sammy Callahan
and Tommy Dreamer, you know, both released from TNA. Earlier
in the week they released Tessa. I mean they've been resigning.
They resigned Tasha Steeles and brought back Amazing redback for
I don't know if it's one night or whatever. So,
I mean, you know, people only focusing on who's gone
as opposed to who's coming. It's a smart as talent wise,
it's probably you know, numerically, it's probably very similar, but
you know, the obviously created is different. And they issued
a statement about streamlining and cross cutting, and of course
everybody thinks that when that happens, that you're looking to
be posturing yourself to be attractive to be bought or
you know, soul depending on which side of And of
course everyone thinks they'll be WWE, which I don't. I
don't know why WWE would want them, I mean, but okay,
I mean, but it wouldn't hurt to have another brand
where you can put some of these talents on there
along with a core of you know, I mean, I
haven't seen Callie arms from much on TV lately, and
you know, I understand it's crowded field, but I don't
know if it's a thing. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: Have you heard about WWE? And actually a lot of
a lot of companies right now are having trouble getting
visas for their wrestlers.
Speaker 2: I'm hearing all of it. I don't know that I
believe it so much. I I think that some places
are having trouble having visas. I think in other cases
it's probably hold over from where they were before they
were smart. Are they doing their own visa and they're
trying to adjust it and then a lot of visas.
Like I think people maybe they don't remember a couple
of years ago when Gunter couldn't go on any of
the international shows because at a certain point in your
adjustment of status. You can't leave the United States for
a year to get it, so he couldn't go on.
And I think there might be some things like that
going on with like Joe Hendry and Ilia Dragon Off
and so they haven't been on TV because they were
doing a European tour and they're going to Saudi Arabia,
so all the shows are they can't play a part
in it. So what's really the point unless you want
them to lose every match, in which case everyone will
complain about burying Ilia who has a cult following and
bearing Joe Hendry, who's specially when you're a new star,
so you know, when they get that all settled or
when they're you know, domestic for us. But it could
very well be that that's the reason that it's not
a visa problem. It's just part of the visa process.
Speaker 1: Well i'm mentioning the visa. It's because Anthem, you know,
TNA is actually a Canadian company and now that maybe
Leaf Wrestling has you know, a TV deal in Canada,
I'm wondering if you know, WW would not try to
get their foot into the country to kind of be
like an opposition to it or I like, I don't know,
I don't know how they think. Like sometimes you feel
like they don't give a damn about other companies, but
then you see that they do. They try to squash
pretty much everybody that's around. So I don't know. I
don't know anyway, all speculations at this point.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I do know that it's helpful.
It's easier to get visas and travel permits when you
own a business in that particular country. I mean that
that's I know that's in Japan, I know in Mexico,
I know it in Canada and certainly here in the US.
But I wouldn't be surprised if they are just visa
issues period, because visas are tougher and you know about it, right,
But I think that there's different buckets. I'm just speculating here.
This is so, But yeah, that's going on in the gossip.
I mean, you know, because of the fact LFG probably
not so much. But we're not you know, we're not robots.
We can talk about whatever we want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean we'll see what happens with all
these people coming up from the PC. I mean, there's
there seems to be a lot of people, and at
the same time, you just see the same wrestlers on
SmackDown or Raw, so you're like, how many people are
actually ready to go to the main ross? Why is
the King of the Ring like with the same people
we see all the time instead of trying to get
you know, a wild card in there. It's it would
be the perfect way to bring somebody from NXT up
or at least in first round to see, hey, can
they connect with the crowd from SmackDown or the crowd
from Raw or is there anything there? You know a
little bit what like they did with Javon where they
would bring him for a match or two, and then
like King of the Ring is a great way to
just try stuff because if they lose in first round
and your guys going you know, further anyway, it doesn't matter.
But at least you can see, Okay, you had a
good connection with people, he did a great match. You know,
he could be an asset, but there.
Speaker 2: Was none of that. And yeah, so of one of
those side effects or direct effects of having these monthly
pls and sometimes more than monthly, you don't have time
for all that. You can't have like a real tournament
where you could bring a piple from NXD and Triple
A and whatever and have them lose in the first round.
Because you have a tour, you have brackets of sixteen
on each side instead you have two fatal four ways
and then you're in. Then you're in the semi finals.
I mean, you know, it's it's it's on each side.
Speaker 1: It's it's I missed the King of the Ring one night,
three matches, like it was a real tournament, A good times.
Speaker 2: It is what it is.
Speaker 1: Anyway, that was it for LFG this week. There's an
almost new zena. So there's a better zeno. Let's let's
put it this way. So where can they find you,
my dear Jeff online? Where where?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yes, so many places to find me. So if you
want to find me on the X, you can find
me at Dose, Underscore Evil. That's for my wrestling nonsense,
And if you're listening to this, that's probably the only
place you really want to follow me. Obviously, you can
find me here on Wrestling Soup doing the LFG show
on Wrestling Soup and Friendos. But we have a whole
bunch of shows, so I do participate in some of those.
I have a podcast called Garden of Thought, which you
can find on Wrestling Soup dot com, but it's a
Garden of Thought you can find on all platforms, and
there's at Garden of Thought pod on YouTube. I also
premiered the MLW Files, where me and my best friend
mister Thomas review MLW. It's our first wrestling show together.
It's on the Sports Jedi network, which has been a
friend to the Soup and especially the Rest and Sup
and friendos. And there were a lot of views and
they're they're on a lot of platforms, so that's a
lot of fun. Obviously, that's put a little added kink
in booking for Gospel of Thomas because there's no way
he's doing two shows with me a week. And I,
to be honest, I've been burned a bunch by some
ghosts and some yesses that went away and some yeses
that were evoked. And also so you know, this is
more fun, this is this is easier. And I also
did I did two guest spots on on Sports Jedi
one last Saturday and won the Saturday or two Saturdays before,
mostly on legal stuff with a lot of the Janelle
Grant stuff, some of the Moxley stuff and thema stuff. Frankly,
I did a little mini podcast that for the soup,
but miss hasn't published it yet or edited yet. For
the soup or Souper and friendos, I'm not sure which
one it would go on, but that's a mini version anyway.
If want to see a maxi version where people actually
asking me questions and they're on YouTube and on a
bunch of other platforms, so sports, Jedi networks, so show
them a little bit of love because I really appreciate them,
and uh, you know that that's probably enough for me.
How about you? Where can they find the leather?
Speaker 1: You can find me on faba dot com, slash so Fisto,
It's lo Fisto Official on YouTube where you can see
me in action and holder ranches, good stuff, bad stuff,
all kinds of stuff. You can also find me on
x at the Lo Fisto, LuFisto Arts and for wrestling
on Instagram. And that's it, and anything else you see
about me is not real. These are my only accounts.
I also have a documentary if you want to follow.
It's at LuFisto doc doc on Instagram. The documentary is
my Emmy Award winner Adam Evans and some images that
are coming out and some quotes from the movie and stuff.
So still in production, but it's it's getting there, and
Adam's doing such a fantastic job at teasing people. And honestly,
I haven't seen it myself. Maybe I look terrible, who knows,
but yeah.
Speaker 2: He's I doubt I do a whole doc with about you,
and you look terrible through the whole thing. And maybe,
just maybe that might be something where we can arrange
like through the for people who join the Wrestling Soup Discord,
which you should first of all thanks to well, last
of all obvious and say it first of all thanks
to Joey Mish for being here on Wrestling Soup. Please subscribe.
I mean, obviously you're listening to this our wrestling soup,
but subscribe, like, join the Patreon, give them money, if
you can buy March, if you can the soup, Yeah,
and join the discord. And so that was my little
segue that maybe when the movie comes out, we can
arrange like a soup discord, you know, in the screening room,
a watch along.
Speaker 1: That would be great. And actually Adam is pretty open
at doing stuff like that and talking about the movies
and stuff, So yeah, it would be a possibility.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe we'll bring the two of you onto the
Sports Jedi Network. Maybe I'll start doing some entertainment. One's
my friend Vinie Pacifico, who you probably know. He's a
independent wrestler, but he's been cast in like five horror
movies in like the last three years, and so every
now and then he brings like, you know, people involved
in the movie, like actors and people on the crew
and whatever, and they don't really fit in the Garden
of Thought Gospel of Thomas universe, but so that might
be something there. And also, you know, anyway, I've talked enough.
Speaker 1: I always actually just join us on Discord on the
wrestling shoot Discord. We watch raw together, we can plain together,
we talk about SmackDown what we don't like. Tons of
funny gifts, nice nice community with the wrestling soup again,
like subscribe to their Patreon, follow them on Twitter, and
all those beautiful stuff in Well, what's it this week?
I think it's enough. We had enough with Xena and
all these fine folks at the Boy the of LFG
and we will uh not see you, but we will
watch ANYXTCEE next week.
Speaker 2: And Chris, I don't think you need to give up,
all right, stayable my friends, Spong wong vom