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Speaker 1: All the damn work I put in with you, Blue Fisto,

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What can you do with this person who is new?

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So they look good, you look good, and everybody's safe.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Lippman. It looked like she was too slow for school,

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but she came out playing the hot, mean girl.

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Speaker 3: The hardest work you're going to do in this business

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is not physical.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be the creative psychology side.

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Speaker 1: Wait them, bright, boy them Frette and tell him. Season three,

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episode eight, Is there a brand news Zena? Do you

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think there is? You will know by the end of

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this episodes or maybe anyway, Well, the show start with

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her friend Chris Allen once again. Are you happy to

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see him? Did you think you would see him again?

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Speaker 2: Yes? I thought we would see him at least one

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more time on this on this season, just to see

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where things went south. But you know, I'll reserve on

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that for for what we saw tonight. As far as

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the whole new Zena, I don't want to spoil anything,

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but we'll certainly get to that. And and that has

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been a question that you and I have been asking

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for the last four weeks or so, like, when are

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we going to see this new Zina? And but who

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are you?

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Speaker 4: And I I was going to say, I was going

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to ask you, I am lopis though, and this is

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a lawyer extraordinary, a chip flipman dose.

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Speaker 1: E bully evil dose? Depending on what side of is

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it the universe? What's what's what's the side thing in

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the universe.

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Speaker 2: I didn't send the upside down because of the whole

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stranger things thing.

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Speaker 1: You know, sout of heaven and a nord of hell.

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I guess, so are somewhere between were the opposite?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all depends, Oh depends.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those days.

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Speaker 2: It's been weeks.

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Speaker 1: Oh what a week, and what a week for Chris Island,

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who says like, which which is funny that he actually

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at the beginning of the show, he actually like He

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says that he needed validation that since no one was

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saying anything, it kind of messed him up. He didn't

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know who he was anymore. But apparently now he knows.

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He can look in the mirror and he sees a winner, baby,

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and there's none like Chris Island.

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Speaker 2: Well, he is the first one in and the last

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one out every day, and he was asked to find himself.

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He's the hardest worker in the room. But then he

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said something that was interesting. He said in ww E,

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there's a lot of hard workers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so, yep, well.

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Speaker 2: He did say it. By the way, I don't know.

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We were not certainly weren't wishing this on anyone, and

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I don't know there would be. We were being prophetic.

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But Mason Holliday was asked to be released, and she

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was granted that release. As we said, seems like a

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wonderful person, very nice person, so she'll do any many

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fine things. But she didn't really seem to be getting

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this at the same rate as the other people who

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started around her, and some of them had lapped her.

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And you know, this is the PC is single A.

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single A. I don't know. But the point being is

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that single A baseball teams are not supposed to produce

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twenty five or thirty five Major leaguers per year. Maybe

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they advance, you know, a third of the squad to

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double A or triple A, and then you know, and

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your triple A, you know, your farm system, you know,

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maybe gets you two or three position players a year

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and two or three pitchers a year. If you haven't

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a really great year, and this is meant to weed

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some people out. Uh and so Mason, you know, weeded

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herself out. And again that's that's luck to her. I'm

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sure she's gonna I'm sure she'll do great things in

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this world.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we still don't really know what's the main reason.

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she's been losing for over a year and nothing was

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moving forward and it was really stagnant. Maybe that would

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be why she left, but there's there hasn't been any Uh.

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and that's about it.

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Speaker 2: I think all I saw is that she lacked the

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heart for it, and that seemed like it was a

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inference was it was attributed to her that, but that

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doesn't make it so. I don't I can't imagine how

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someone this sneer end would care about winds or losses.

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to really care about winds or losses. You know, if

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you're advancing, you're going to start to get more winds anyway,

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and if you advance far enough, you need to get

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some losses too, unless you're you know, Roman Marines don't

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have a title run for four years, and even then,

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you know almost all of those winds are tainted. So

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you know, I can't imagine wins and losses matter. She's

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smarter than that, everyone around a smarter than that. But anyway,

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whatever it is, maybe she just didn't see, you know,

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she wanted to go out on her own terms at

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her own time, as opposed to maybe she saw writing

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on the wall. Maybe she listened too well to you

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Speaker 1: Oh well, anyway, so apparently everybody is wants to work,

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asking Matt Bloom are we working this week? They're exciting

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and this week the meeting there is of course Matt Bloom,

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Kevin Stein, Kevin Owens, goddamn the shit booker, and Johnny

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he's actually the first one is going to get a

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match this week between Jamie Garcia and our friend Chris Hyland. Apparently,

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well apparently we know that they mentioned again that he

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doesn't know who he is in the ring, and Booker

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said something about him being on the bubble. I couldn't

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really figure out if is it in the bubble on

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the bubble? I couldn't hear him. I don't know if

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you could explain that to me.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly the word it'll use, but I

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think I think the ext question is on the bubble

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because because you know, the if the bubbles stay solid,

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you're still moving forward. Of the bubble pops down, you go.

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maker or break it is is what he meant. And

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all right, Johnny Gargano is so much more interesting in

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these morning meetings than than he is at most anytime

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doing wrestling. And I will can I will I will

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exclude from that the skits when they were doing the way,

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those were very funny. So he's he's a naturally funny guy.

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I just think he's better suited to be a manager.

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But his addition here was they want him to work

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specifically with Romeo. I'm sorry Romeo is his name now,

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it's I'm sorry Jamie Garcia. Because Jamie was was coming

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from the Indies and and as they put it, had

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a lot of bad habits to break. He was a

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little gritty, a little flippy, uh, you know, a little bendy,

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and Johnny's like, yeah, I you know, I'm I have

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an affinity towards that I can from the Indies. I

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root for these guys and I was one of those guys.

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more gritty and less bendy and and you know, and

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on Chris, but I mean, Chris is just a PC guy,

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so you know, I guess he sort of knew what

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his training regimen had been for the last two years.

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the KO is going to get Nathan Cranton, who we

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all know now is Tristan Angels, and he's going to

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get Smike Deruda, who you know is Dorian van Do.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: They've made a they made a pretty big deal that

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that Mike de Ruda was excited for Ilio getting called

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up right away, but he was sort of wondering why

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not me, and so he sort of has something to

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prove there. They all like Nathan or Nathan I'm not

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sure how it's pronounced. In Canadian But Keo said something

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pretty funny. He said, you know, he's basically ripped off

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Triple H's Hunter Hurst Helmsley. But it's been twenty years.

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I'm like, dude, it's been like thirty years since he's

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Hunter Hurls Hellsley with the you know, like with the

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blue Bloods Gamick. But yeah, he's like, and if you're

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gonna rip someone off and it's been long enough, Joel

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mean hard I had to argue with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't disagree. It's just I feel that Naythan

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is more of a pretty boy than a blue blood

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kind of eye class. I don't know, He's more of

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the pageant guy to me, and like, I see the resemblance,

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but it's different. To me, it's similar, You're not the same.

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Speaker 2: Remember remember we told that his origin story didn't quite

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match with his attitude. But we both both sid Yeah,

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we we both decide to agree that once won Mister

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England and and became into wrestling and star waring beauty pageants,

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that all of a sudden he became like new money.

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with the in crowd and then part of the Hoi

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polloi and the the He made it into the elites.

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you know, get back to a sheepherder. Shepherd, uh roots, it's.

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Speaker 1: With the bushwhackers, right right, of course?

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Speaker 2: Who else? I mean they had a jack victory? Why

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not him? The last pairing was interesting because this this

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was a request a Nakida Lynes requested to work with Booker,

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but Zena Sterling, I'm not I wasn't clear that she

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requested to work with Booker, but it's pretty clear that

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she wanted to work with someone other than Baba. Not

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because she doesn't love him, but she just needed a

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different voice. And and everyone agrees she needs to hear

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a different voice. That she was favorite to win season one,

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she was favorite to win season two. What happened? She

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didn't win either, and you know, everyone sort of feels

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like we did that she's she's role playing as a wrestler.

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I've used that she acts like she's one of the

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actresses playing a character on Glow rather than even the

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Glow wrestlers themselves from the eighties.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny because I mentioned that I think that's

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the last thing I said about Zena last season. I'm like,

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she needs a new coach. She needs someone else. He

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can't see her flaws and she has many every all fixable,

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all things that she can fix, but she needs someone

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else to tell her that her It's like her shit

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didn't stink, but it did, so she needed someone that

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told her. And I'll get right into the mess run away.

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Speaker 2: But the exchanged with Booker and Johnny go down Santaspas.

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Bookers like, don't worry, I'm gonna you give me sixty

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minutes with her. You're gonna get a whole news z

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and then and then he starts backing off from it,

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and you know they wanted he's a hand thing. Yeah,

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they want to put their hands in the middle again.

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Of course Johnny and k are there, Bloom is there.

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Booker doesn't want to do it, and he's like, you

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guys don't know how much work I have ahead of me,

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and Johnny kind of goes, yeah, we do sixty minutes.

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Speaker 1: You just said, so.

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Speaker 2: This is when I like him. This, this is this

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is funny stuff. But yeah, and then we got like

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a vignette from Jamie, you know, talking about his time

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in Spain and the Indies and all that. I don't

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know that it revealed very much, but I mean at

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least it got to you got some introduction into the kid. Again.

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His his name in there, I don't know his last name,

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it's Romeo something in wrestling, and they haven't paired with

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no Am Dar so he was in evolved when almost

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right up to n next to you, he's sort of

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doing both right now, so you know, obviously they have

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a lot of faith in him. So yeah, but yeah,

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I guess we can go into the you know, go

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into the matt except to point out that one the

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Speaker 1: Yes he did, and I thought it was funny that

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he mentioned that, you know, like every young kid like

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in Spain, he tried soccer, but he fell in love

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with wrestling. He went to school in psychology, but he

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actually dropped out because WWK calling, which is cool and

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he comes from there. He knows what's like. He understands

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the transition that is not always easy. He wants the

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babyface to fight from underneath, and he also mentions that

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actually that's where he mentioned something about Christy says he's

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got a great attitude. He has something special, but he

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needs to save the moments and kind of work with

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the levels, which is like time not scream for no reason,

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like it needs you need to scream somewhere, you know,

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in particular, not just like when you.

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Speaker 2: Feel like it that that this is true and you know, listen,

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I'll say for for Jamie Garcia, he came out like

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a ball of Spider Man energy. He was like flying

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all over the place. He was doing like little flips

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and rolls and I'm not sure if it wasn't too much,

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but I liked it as an entrance. Somebody sort of

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kept doing it, like when the when the bell rang,

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he did it like it was almost like a head

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fake or a mind game. But it looked a little silly.

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But I think our focus needs to be on Chris

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because when he came out, I wanted to see what

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was new? What was new?

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Speaker 1: Lou boxing wraps. Okay, it's funny because just like you mentioned,

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like for Jamie, like I wrote down, like he moves

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and slides like Spider Man. Like there, that's really like

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how I saw it too, is like he's moving like

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Spider Man, like low to the mat on the floor

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and just sliding so easily. It was like, Okay, that's

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kind of.

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Speaker 2: But it's it's it's similar in that in like their

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bodies are almost like fluidy, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean Chris had Jane's and he did

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talk to the crowd, did a little.

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Speaker 2: Gloves, very tough, yeah, kind of rapping rapping.

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Speaker 1: So the the first thing that they they did, like

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they mentioned that the Jamie was also a freestyle amateur,

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like he had an amateur of a ground, so we

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would see him like out wrestle Chris right from the start.

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Chris also has like a background in wrestling, but they

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just wanted to see like, remember the baby face always

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needs to out wrestle the heel, and of course here

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although he came out as baby face ish, like, we

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get from the beginning that Chris is gonna play the heel.

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So he goes to the outside and pulls the hand

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through the ropes, boom, and he's losing time talking crap

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before the Babyface goes into a shine, which I thought

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was a lot better from Chris because he I always

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felt like he was rushing into things like or he

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would talk and then like it didn't make sense. But

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now you know, he did a dirty thing using the ropes.

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He turned around kind of played the crowd. That's where

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like you see, like, okay, he's a heel, he's kind

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of killing time a little bit too much. Babyface is

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still fresh. Boom, Jimmy starts his shine. Then there there

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was like I don't know, like a drop kick. Oh yeah,

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it was like a drop kick thing tackle. Then I

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thought Jamie was good at working the crowd, although working

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the crowd before a pin that was a little bit

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too much, but at least like he had eye contact

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with them. He would like look at them and ask

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them to cheer, which is more than you know, a

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lot of people we saw like looking at the mat

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or Xena was one example that she was working the

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crowd like facing down, like not up at them. But

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Jamie already has that. So Chris, Chris catches Jimmy, then

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catches again into a spinebuster, and then he gets on

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the attack. And I thought like there was like nice

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good punches right there. From they eat, they go outside,

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there's choke, there's a solid stump at one point, I'm like, oh,

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that looks a little stiff like the stuff. But it

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looked good. And the fist as well. I thought Chris

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Island was a little bit more like a little bit

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more vicious, a little bit more into it from what

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we saw last time. There was no like screaming in

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between that were I felt like he was more in

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control of everything. The babyface was fighting back from underneath

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would get cut off again. And one thing that they

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did I think in every match, the heel being Chris

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Island here work a hole to get the crowd riled

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up and clapping for Jimmy to you know, try to

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get back on track and try to get control of

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the match. Goes into a go behind than a elbow,

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than an ad lock, and a high bellied the back,

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which was like I don't know if you notice garganos

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like whoa, and he had like little hands like oh

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like oh my god, that was like yeah, jazz hands.

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So that was a cool, cool way to get back

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like it looked devastating enough for the heel to stay

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down for the babyface come back and some forms a

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running kick to the face a corner tackle. He kind

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of slipped there. I'm not sure what happened in the corner,

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but then went into what I could call a Greco

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Roman throw into a pin. Then that's there that the

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Chris Hiland grabbed the rope. Then that's I don't know

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if there's anything you want to say before I get

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to this point, because we're getting to Jimmy goes for

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a soup lex and then Chris doesn't really go up.

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He goes up and down and he's so his ankle

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and then Jamie's selling his neck. That was like really

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confusing to me. I'm like, what happened? Like they both

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got hurt or I was like at this point, I

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was like because I felt like they had a good

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rhythm until until that first slip in the corner on

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the comeback, and then that's suplex that nothing was.

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Speaker 3: Clear on who was supposed to go down on this

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one or like yeah, and then Chris came down a

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little hard on his ankle, and of course he's where

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he's wearing sneakers and like not even high top sneakers,

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so he's not really wearing wrestling shoes, and you know, afterwards,

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Johnny asked him, I, you know, are you okay? It's

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like I thought you hurt your ankle on that, And

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I guess Chris was just working it, saying that, you

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know that that's the reason why I couldn't, you know,

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carry him and Romeo, I'm Jamie.

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Speaker 2: He's still Jamie. And this was, you know, still selling

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that his neck was hurting him. But it was like

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it was a confusing sequence. It was a bit of

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a botch but I you know, but they they recovered

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from it, and I can't remember exactly what Chris's finisher was.

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It was very physical. It was some sort of package pile.

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Speaker 1: Driver, like a gut wrench GTS, Like YE had him

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in a gut wrench but ended up like I needed

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a face. That's why I called it like a gut

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wrench GTS, because that's what it kind of looked.

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Speaker 2: It looked good.

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Speaker 1: It was different.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 2: But I say this, this is why Chris drives me, Baddy.

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I mean, I guess it shouldn't he shouldn't any more

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since he retired from from wrestling, But I mean, his

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earlier performance this season was terrible. It was embarrassing, it

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was cringeworthy. In past seasons, he's shown signs of being

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good bad and could be very good. I thought this

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was generally speak looking very good. This was his best character.

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He was acting normal, he was dangerous. It was sort

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of like a heel Steve Blackman kind of persona. You know.

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He was just serious, angry, unforgiving, relentless. His punches in

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the corner was solid. He like didn't stop until six

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or seven of them. I just thought this was the

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best I'd ever seen him look totally as a package,

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except for the watch and listen weary wrestling boots or

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you know, have wrestling boots that are designed to look

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like MMA shoes or whatever. Could you know, could if

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if this is the act that he wants to continue,

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that the you know, I don't know that attire needs

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to be part of the act anything and be part

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of I'm a dangerous guy. But after seeing this, I

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want to see more of him. But you know, he's

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so hit or miss uh And I have no idea

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when his release occurred in the context of the season

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of LFG before during, well not before, but during or

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after or whatever, you know, or when he decided to

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retire if it was just a hymn thing or like

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he got word from him, you know, who knows. But

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so it drove me crazy because this guy, this this.

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Speaker 1: Work, he could work.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's there were there are worse workers on

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un Evolve and on on XT and then TNA and

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the Triple A. I mean this guy not not not

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Chris's overall body of work, but this guy anyway, a

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little bit frustrating, but uh, it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there was not enough consistency, like a lot of

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bad and then something really good and then bad and

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give it so maybe they can do they can rely on,

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like who who are we gonna get today? Like good Chris,

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very good Chris or very bad Chris. Like maybe it

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was it was too much to deal with. And actually

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Chris says like, hey, the match was great, which I think, like, yeah,

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the match was was going very well until that slipping

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and then soup spot. The finish looked good. Gorgana was

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like concerned about the ankle, and then that's where Jimmy

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says like, oh, I tried to kind of sell the neck,

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so that was kind of planned, but he made it

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so small that it didn't show what he was actually

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trying to do it so instead of being exaggerated, and

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that's what I'm selling it, it looked like a shoot,

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like a real injury because it was kind of subtle

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and holding his necks like, oh, the pinched nerve or something.

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What happened?

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Speaker 2: So what was coming off a box and I think

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it was supposed to happen is he was supposed to

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take the super relex and you know, we get up

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not just his head, you know, not just his lower back,

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but also his neck would still be hurting. But it

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wasn't to be. But Bloom agreed with us. He also

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preferred the Dangerous Killer Island. He gave him positive the feedback,

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or at least that's all we saw as far as

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Jamie was concerned. He said, you know, get rid of

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pandering to the people before the cover. That's sort of

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in the You need to you know this early and

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you need to go to the wind. We can revisit

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when there's when there's time for pandering and show voting later,

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don't don't completely like get it out of your toolkit,

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but for now, we want you to learn the basics.

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And I just find all that's so fascinating. And I'm

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sure it's what you did at your school, and I'm

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sure it's what they do at you know, some of

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the better schools. But just trying to get the basics

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and then you can sort of get the flamboyance added

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on top of it, you know, the pumping circumstance.

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Speaker 1: I like to add in like the in between, just

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so people are used to it. But yeah, it has

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to be done at the right place when you're when

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you just hit a big move, it's it's it's a

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sense of urgency. You want to get the pin. You

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want to get the one two three, so as soon

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as possible, you want to cover your opponent. But I mean,

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if you do something fancy in the oponent like whoop

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ends up out, well work the crowd, pander there, like

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the opponents too far away an you wait to grab

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a pin, so celebrate whatever whatever and then keep going.

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But for a pin, I absolutely agree your guys down

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you want to win, you know, Oh yeah, wrestling is fixed,

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but at least, you know, make it seem real to

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the point where like guys down trying to get a

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one two three on him. So yeah, definitely it was

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it was a good performance for both guy little uh, misstep, miscommunication,

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whatever happened at the end, but until then it was

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good and the last few moves were good too, so

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it should happens. But they kept going. And yeah, I

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agree with you for Bloom said that finally Chris was

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showing range and I felt it was not exaggerated the

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way he tried the week the not the week, but

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the time saw him before it was more natural. And yeah,

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I mean, I don't know if we're going to see

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him one more time in this season.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be very curious to see if there's some

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sort of blow up or disaster that that led to it.

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If not, I guess we'll have to wait for one day.

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If when he does an interview.

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Speaker 1: Maybe, but he's retired, so who knows. But two people

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are not retired or actually on TV, and one of

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them was actually on tour in Europe.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: These fine folks are Natan Kratton and Mike the Ruder. Mike,

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I can't remember the new name. It's I know it's DVD.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's Durian van du van Dux Ducks.

473
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Speaker 1: Okay van Ducks, oh d yeah, like Ducks, d u x.

474
00:27:53,759 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 2: Right right, Yes, he's a Flemish gentleman. He's from Belgium, Yes, Flemish.

475
00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: So that was fun to know that they actually got

476
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,200
picked up on the same tryout in London, both of them.

477
00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:13,440
And yeah, Naytan again always more of a triple h like,

478
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,359
but he needs he needs to be more vicious, like

479
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,079
when he's he's beginning to beat up his opponent, there's

480
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,000
nothing pretty about him. He's vicious, he's dangerous, so he

481
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,079
has to kind of find that middle ground of being

482
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:35,319
mister mister England and the evil, conniving, vicious heel.

483
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so as I got to turn that gear from

484
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,240
from methodical to vicious, I did. I was getting a

485
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,039
little nervous because I could tell I didn't know what

486
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,119
was going on in the band when they were sort

487
00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:49,119
of booking the match and there was this other guy

488
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,359
in there and they're like, he's going to use you

489
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,000
as a shield and also figured out you know, I

490
00:28:54,039 --> 00:28:56,119
didn't recognize. I'm like, oh my god, that's the ref

491
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,640
that they're been gonna have a bit where they're using

492
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,759
the reft as a prop and I'm like, wow, this

493
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,240
is great, this is ambitious. Let's see how it Let's

494
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,720
see how it turns out. It's like that uh so

495
00:29:05,839 --> 00:29:08,640
that that meme where that's a bold move Cotton, Let's

496
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,440
see how it works out.

497
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,599
Speaker 1: You know, it's to have a great opponent, really is

498
00:29:16,039 --> 00:29:21,000
you know, it's something that how can I explain that

499
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,200
it's great to have a great uh it's great to

500
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,720
have a great opponent, Yeah, of course, but having a

501
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:34,440
good referee that's that knows where to stand and be

502
00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:37,119
at the right place at the right time. It can

503
00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:42,319
help a match, so much like having a great ref

504
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:48,359
is so important. Like I feel they're underappreciated, under raiding

505
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,279
to the the role they have to play during a

506
00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:55,599
wrestling match. So I like that they actually showed that.

507
00:29:55,759 --> 00:29:57,680
You know, they involve the riff and they have to

508
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,400
get ready and they have to plan a few things too,

509
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:03,680
Like they're part of the match. They don't take the bomb,

510
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,400
but they don't do the fighting itself, but they are

511
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,599
part of it. And I like that we saw that,

512
00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:14,559
and actually I love that the It was Kevin and

513
00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:19,640
Beifusic talking about, you know, being gritty and being rough.

514
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,759
It seems easy, but it's not so coming from two

515
00:30:24,839 --> 00:30:29,160
guys who were like, who can be visious actually, and

516
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:34,720
I love for the beginning of this match, Crampton came

517
00:30:34,759 --> 00:30:36,240
out first, which was great.

518
00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:36,519
Speaker 4: Huh.

519
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,599
Speaker 2: First, yes, I will say, I will say that I wrote,

520
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,119
I typed the word Hugh, I'll say for you. And

521
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,079
then the only criticism I had about the entrance is

522
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,920
that not not Cramptons, this was perfect. Is that when

523
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,960
the Ruder came out, I wouldn't exactly call his entrance facy,

524
00:30:57,559 --> 00:31:01,400
which I guess is okay, but in this context I

525
00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:03,440
don't think it really is. I think they should have

526
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,519
done a few things to you know, I don't know,

527
00:31:05,559 --> 00:31:07,799
a couple of years and fists up to the you know,

528
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,799
to the crowd or whatever, you know, fist bumps some

529
00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:13,319
people something, I don't know. It just it seemed a

530
00:31:13,359 --> 00:31:17,039
little bit dry. I especially with the style of match

531
00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:23,359
that they ultimately worked. Wasn't really clear that the ruder, yeah,

532
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,319
the ruder was was the face at any point, except

533
00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:30,759
that Angels was so much of a heel. But they

534
00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:33,880
almost sort of worked at the same pace and in

535
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,319
the same way, except that the ruder wanted to do

536
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,279
some more high spots. You know, he loves to show

537
00:31:38,319 --> 00:31:41,519
that for for a big guy, and you know, he

538
00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:44,440
he you know, gets very offendive if you don't call

539
00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:47,480
him again. He's like me as a little he is

540
00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:50,519
he's a tank. He's a thick, solid guy. But he's

541
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:53,559
not O but fammy, he's he's you know, he's you know,

542
00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:57,519
sort of you know, seven eighths of Roofsev but still

543
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,519
big guy. And he and he likes to fly around.

544
00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:02,400
Not not typical, but he I think he went to

545
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,119
that one too many times, you know, sort of showing off.

546
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: But I don't really have a problem with that. When

547
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,880
you're a babyface and you know, Crentton is so good

548
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,920
as a heel that even if you're if you're let's say,

549
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,359
if you're more of a low key babyface, if the

550
00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:25,400
heel is so strong. That's why, like, if you have

551
00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:28,480
a great heel, your job as a babyface is so

552
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:33,039
much easier because people are gonna aid him so much automatically,

553
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,319
you don't have to do much to end up being

554
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,519
the babyface. And you got a big guy. And they

555
00:32:39,599 --> 00:32:43,079
also mentioned that he's a he's a Belgian powerhouse. So

556
00:32:43,319 --> 00:32:45,759
I don't see him coming out like all happy and

557
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,119
slapping hands. And yeah, there should have been a hint

558
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,359
of a smile a little a little something that tells

559
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,559
me a little bit more babyface. But at least the

560
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,480
commentators were selling the fact that he, you know, he's

561
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:05,200
a belt in powerhouse and he's serious, and I like

562
00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:06,759
that he was going like, I don't know if you

563
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,279
noticed that he was going from I'm enoughts to I'm

564
00:33:11,759 --> 00:33:14,920
serious and then like he would switch his space in

565
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,880
a way where he was smile crazy, He's.

566
00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:21,119
Speaker 2: Like, but he he did a smile onto the camera,

567
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,319
but then he did like like I'm gonna bite you

568
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,039
kind of thing, which again not exactly facy.

569
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: So the two sides of the.

570
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,119
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say, I mean there was there was a cutter,

571
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,559
and I guess, depending on who you you either think

572
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,200
was very impressive that he got that far or you

573
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:42,720
think it looked a little bit too contrived to cooperative,

574
00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:46,160
which is what I thought. I thought that the rough

575
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,799
spot was deployed really well. It was executed almost perfectly,

576
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,799
and then we got the shooting stars pressed for the

577
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,240
the ruter win, which was the second you know, from

578
00:33:56,319 --> 00:34:03,200
the top row move. I these two do work together,

579
00:34:04,079 --> 00:34:06,079
and I don't want to say they're too comfortable. It's

580
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,840
just I don't know they were both in the same gear,

581
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:12,519
you know, And I think that's sort of what Chao

582
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:15,119
is saying. You say, I'm very pleased with the execution.

583
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,519
Your stuff looks great, but there was no there wasn't

584
00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:23,440
the emotion. I said, too methodical, which was directly mostly

585
00:34:23,559 --> 00:34:28,159
to Nathan mister England, which I guess I agree with,

586
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:31,159
but it takes to the tango, so you know, the

587
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,880
other guy could have been playing a little bit more

588
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,440
facy as well. I though with this character, I guess,

589
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,239
you know, he's just one of those tough I'm really good,

590
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,519
but I don't cheat faces as opposed to there being

591
00:34:42,599 --> 00:34:45,360
a character. So I mean, I thought that was fair commentary.

592
00:34:46,039 --> 00:34:48,760
And maybe I sound like I'm more critical than I

593
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,880
am because I actually thought it was largely a good match.

594
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,599
But I did notice, I'm not really sure who's the

595
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:56,239
good guy, who's the bad guy, who I should be

596
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,719
rooting for, who I shouldn't be, except that Nathan is

597
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,639
such a great heel in such an obvious heel that

598
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,199
there wasn't a question if the ruder was in there

599
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,639
with a different opponent, you know, maybe like Elijah or

600
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,519
you know, Chris, maybe we'd have no idea whose face

601
00:35:14,599 --> 00:35:15,320
or heel the whole time.

602
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,639
Speaker 1: True, it's just that, you know how we always say

603
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:23,880
make everything bigger, and as a heel, your your role

604
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,679
is also to slow down the pace. So when the

605
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:32,400
baby face picks up and fires up, there's that switch,

606
00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:38,000
there's a you know, switching gears where the babyface goes

607
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:40,280
like bo bo bom and then gets the crowd going.

608
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,400
And I felt that Natan and Kao's like right on

609
00:35:44,519 --> 00:35:48,079
palm when he says that, like everything was great technically,

610
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,719
like right from the lock up. You see that Mike

611
00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:55,159
is the stronger one and but he's gonna be he

612
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,280
still plays by the rule. You know, That's how you

613
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,840
can tell. Also, he's a babyface. When the referee tells

614
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,280
him something, he listens. He's gonna listen to the counts

615
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:10,519
or whatever. And you know he also acknowledges the crowd

616
00:36:11,639 --> 00:36:15,239
without being you know, over the top baby face. But

617
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,719
you see Nathan pulling his hair eye rake, you know,

618
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,800
to bump him because he's also, like you said, a

619
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,519
thicker kind of guy. So how how is Nathan gonna

620
00:36:25,519 --> 00:36:29,480
bring him down? He's gonna cheat hair eyes. But the

621
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:34,239
problem is that when they go outside even a little

622
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,639
bit before that. Uh, the ruther attempts like a up

623
00:36:37,679 --> 00:36:40,519
and over in the corner and Nathan grabs in and

624
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:43,800
it's like so de Rudo ends up his balls on

625
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,639
the top rope. But everything was done so quick, and

626
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,760
I felt like the heel was not celebrating this enough

627
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,519
or kind of you know, when the referee comes on him,

628
00:36:55,559 --> 00:36:57,599
it's like, hey, you can't you know, you can't do

629
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,039
that whatever, and I didn't do it, Like he didn't

630
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,440
sell it, like oh, I don't know what you're saying,

631
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,920
blah blah blah, like he fell by himself, like kind

632
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,519
of cocky ish like, oh, it's not my fault kind

633
00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:13,440
of thing, like he did not sell what just happened.

634
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,960
And the same thing happens outside where you know, he kicks,

635
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,280
he kicks the ruter gives him a big club in

636
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,199
the back and then table but everything is so quick. Uh,

637
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:29,360
there's no pauses in between. There's the there's nothing that

638
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:34,840
tells me heal And I think Ko actually explains it

639
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,719
at the end where you know you hit him, you

640
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,559
should like either talk crap or he has the type

641
00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:44,719
of character where he can talk the crowd. You know,

642
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:47,239
did you see what I just did to the big guy.

643
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,599
He's down, I'm mister London, blah blah blah, And there

644
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,239
was nothing of that. I felt he was so focused

645
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,360
on his wrestling that he kept looking down instead of

646
00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:01,239
looking up and playing with the crowd and taking his

647
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,440
time while while Mike would be selling to the next

648
00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:07,199
spot or maybe a little bit further. So he would

649
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,000
come with a kick and Mike could roll away and

650
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,719
they could go like almost all around the ring instead

651
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,519
of staying in that same spot at the so what?

652
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: And he was also he was also playing to the

653
00:38:22,639 --> 00:38:25,960
working to the crowd and forgot he's on TV and

654
00:38:26,599 --> 00:38:29,920
was with his neck to the hard camera. And you

655
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,280
know I didn't. I wasn't cognizant of it, of it

656
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,800
on a forefront level. As soon as Bloom said it,

657
00:38:38,199 --> 00:38:41,079
it's like, yes, that's part of what was flatting this match.

658
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,960
And it goes hand in hand with what you were

659
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,920
talking about that they were seemed to always be in

660
00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:49,159
the same spot. Now, this this stuff will come with time.

661
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,400
So you know they and you know both these guys,

662
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,480
you know they can do the moves and all that,

663
00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:58,559
learning how to dance better and which direction to face

664
00:38:58,599 --> 00:39:01,119
and stuff. Like that is going to be And I'm

665
00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:03,480
sure it only gets easier if you're if you're used

666
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,000
to playing to the crowd when there's weding this crowd

667
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:08,079
on all four sides of the ring as opposed to

668
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,679
know what I even as.

669
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: A baby face when you're selling, you can turn yourself

670
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,639
towards the camera. And then he was going to place

671
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,000
himself like because you're already facing it. But even like

672
00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:24,800
I felt like the Ruter was not he I felt

673
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,840
he was more used to it, like he would try.

674
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,599
But then Nathan, there's a spot actually where and I

675
00:39:32,679 --> 00:39:36,599
think it's Blue mentioned it like the Ruter is selling

676
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:39,079
towards the camera, but then Nathan goes right in front

677
00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:40,920
of him and we see his back. We can't see

678
00:39:41,039 --> 00:39:43,440
the Ruter's face in pain, so we can have any

679
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,920
we can have any like we can't feel sad for

680
00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:49,039
him or whatever or want to cheer him. We can't

681
00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:52,239
see like his suffering so because we see the guy's

682
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,920
back in ass so but you know, overall, uh, yeah,

683
00:39:57,039 --> 00:39:59,800
it was a good match, really impressive to see the

684
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:05,360
doing like the shooting Star. It was clean, you know.

685
00:40:06,679 --> 00:40:10,679
I like also that Nackan when he did a guillotine

686
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,039
knee drop, and there was a one two. He didn't

687
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,000
He was pissed at the kickout, but not like you know,

688
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:23,440
the like when they overdo it, mouthed open like it's

689
00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:26,119
the end of the world, but it's not your finish.

690
00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:29,559
You're not supposed to be that surprised. But I liked

691
00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:34,400
like he was pissed, but not like too much where

692
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:39,760
it's like I'll just like, but yeah, work the camera more,

693
00:40:40,599 --> 00:40:47,920
slow down, focus on what's between the moves instead of

694
00:40:48,159 --> 00:40:51,920
just doing move move move, And I mean this match

695
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,360
is gonna be like very very good if they just

696
00:40:55,519 --> 00:40:59,559
fix little things and actually slow down, just just slow

697
00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:03,320
down and yeah and maybe try if you're gonna use

698
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,840
the rut as a face, maybe trying to find the

699
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,880
way where he doesn't look silly doing babyfaces things. But

700
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,280
that makes him a little bit more likable.

701
00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 4: You know.

702
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,159
Speaker 1: Elijah was talking maybe about fist pumping people instead of

703
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,880
clapping or things that are still like works with the character,

704
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,159
because yeah, you see a big guy going like, hey,

705
00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:33,639
clap my hands. It's it's not like, uh, when the

706
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,000
New Day was coming out and they're all happy and

707
00:41:36,679 --> 00:41:39,559
it's like a celebration. Then clapping hands like it's it

708
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,000
just goes with it. But him, I was like, yeah,

709
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,559
that wouldn't that wouldn't work. But there's things to do

710
00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:50,239
to make it better. But yeah, I mean the ruler

711
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,039
is always positive, like you know who he is, so

712
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,000
and I yeah, I like that. He was like like, yeah,

713
00:41:57,039 --> 00:42:01,159
everything's gonna be okay, like he's doing good and obviously

714
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,400
is that. I mean, they put him on the shows

715
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,960
in Europe, so of course they see his money, especially

716
00:42:08,159 --> 00:42:11,920
in around his own town or in Europe where he's

717
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:14,039
wrestled before, so he knows these money.

718
00:42:14,559 --> 00:42:18,679
Speaker 2: So I would I would be invested in seeing him

719
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,800
and a tag team with Rus seven and maybe Tristan

720
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,440
Angels and they're all in the same faction. I don't

721
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,119
know if they get Eliel to turn to the dark

722
00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:29,920
side or the European Union or something. I don't Yeah,

723
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:32,480
I know England's not part of the EU any longer,

724
00:42:32,559 --> 00:42:38,079
but it doesn't matter for wrestling terms. Uh, for wrestling purposes?

725
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: Was it in ninety three? The foreign fanatics?

726
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, I don't think we need that. Well no,

727
00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:48,639
oh my god. I mean I'm not saying the European

728
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:51,840
Union is great either, but you know, at least it

729
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,840
makes a little bit of sense. But yeah, fact that

730
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,639
could be fun. But none of this really matters because

731
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,559
we have a main event and we have a big

732
00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:04,880
question to answer, and you know, this is the Booker,

733
00:43:05,159 --> 00:43:11,039
Nikita and Zena show at this point, and frankly, it's

734
00:43:11,079 --> 00:43:14,599
really the Booker and Zena show because it is very

735
00:43:14,679 --> 00:43:16,599
clear at this point that they don't look at Nikita

736
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,320
Lyons as a student anymore. They look at her as

737
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,119
someone that's going to help elevate the younger talent. Already,

738
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,280
she's already proven herself, or at least that's what it seems,

739
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,000
and she seems to have the confidence in herself as well.

740
00:43:29,199 --> 00:43:34,000
A well deserved congratulations, young lady. I was not I

741
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:36,599
was a bit of a skeptic in the beginning. I

742
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,800
like some of the moves. I wasn't as enamortor with

743
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,960
some people. But I saw you did the work. I

744
00:43:42,039 --> 00:43:45,480
saw what you did in Evolve. I saw you sort

745
00:43:45,519 --> 00:43:48,599
of go from overacting into finding a character where you're

746
00:43:48,639 --> 00:43:52,480
acting was actually fit perfectly and seem to have instant

747
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:57,760
chemistry with a variety of different people because they came

748
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,639
in and out like Iarana Grace who then went to

749
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,280
tea in And then you did it with a little

750
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,119
bit with Layla and and and Mason, and there were

751
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:10,239
some with with with other women as well. I could

752
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:11,840
see it with chan teal Monroe. I can see it

753
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,599
easy with Chelsea Green, like yeah, I could, you know.

754
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:20,039
And and now they seem to have repaired with Carmen Petrovic,

755
00:44:20,119 --> 00:44:22,280
with the two of them with their kicks and stuff

756
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,719
and a little bit of Natty, And if Natty saw

757
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,400
like their manager on the outside, you know, they could

758
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,199
be an interesting tag team. But anyway, I'm delaying because

759
00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:40,719
did Booker turn Zena from a lark wrestler live action

760
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,000
role playing into an actual wrestler.

761
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,679
Speaker 1: I really like what he said to her. He's like,

762
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:52,840
you need expert tutelage. You need to react instead of acting,

763
00:44:53,679 --> 00:44:57,000
and you need you have to stop playing wrestler to

764
00:44:57,199 --> 00:45:02,199
actually become, you know, being a wrestler, and you need

765
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:07,760
to look in control. So I was like, hmmm, It's like,

766
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,119
as much as I was not too fond of Booker

767
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:17,400
the Fat season, I feel like is the way he

768
00:45:17,519 --> 00:45:21,760
teaches his advice are like so good, right to the point.

769
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,840
He doesn't sugarcoat things and it's like you have to

770
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,199
remember the little stuff, don't rush.

771
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 2: And well he was also purposefully bearing Bubba without venturing

772
00:45:36,039 --> 00:45:40,400
his name. But he wasn't wrong. Nobody was wrong. I

773
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,960
mean we talked about it. She got too much too soon,

774
00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:47,239
and and it it arrested her development. So she did

775
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,559
need a different voice. So she came out first.

776
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah she did.

777
00:45:55,039 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 2: No, yeah she did. And she came out with new

778
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,079
poppy music. I'm not sure if that music quite fits her,

779
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,360
but at least it was something new. It it fits

780
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,159
her outfit, but it doesn't fit her. I think the

781
00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:09,800
whole thing about her outfit is the Alphit it's not

782
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,079
supposed to be on her, like she's supposed to look

783
00:46:13,119 --> 00:46:16,199
like a little doll, but she's actually like like she's

784
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,280
a doll that, you know, like became the she Hulk.

785
00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:22,599
I don't know. I didn't love the music. I don't

786
00:46:22,639 --> 00:46:25,760
get too hyped up on music generally, but when it's

787
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:31,159
not good, uh Like, I agree with Bloom that Nathan

788
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,119
Cranston Tristan Angel's new music was much better.

789
00:46:34,159 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: It was great, it was perfect, and I'm actually not

790
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:40,320
sure Zena is really into it too, because I felt

791
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,039
what she came out she didn't look as confident at least,

792
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,920
I mean she looked serious. She didn't look like over

793
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:49,039
bubbly and and kind of fakesh. At least that that

794
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:49,480
was good.

795
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: No, he me? Who me?

796
00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:53,159
Speaker 1: And the ring?

797
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 2: How about how did I get here?

798
00:46:56,039 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was like I don't know if it's

799
00:46:58,039 --> 00:47:01,800
it was the music that didn't fit her where I'm

800
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,039
not sure I like the dress.

801
00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:09,679
Speaker 2: I used to be. I can.

802
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: I can talk about it myself because I used to

803
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,559
be a Japanese anime. But here's the thing. I was

804
00:47:15,679 --> 00:47:19,079
playing the paradox of being an anime where I was

805
00:47:19,679 --> 00:47:22,840
when I was coming out and like the in betweens, everything,

806
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,320
I was like really excited, over the top, and I

807
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,079
had the little skirts and everything. But then I would

808
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:32,800
get like very vicious, very violent, and there was like

809
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,719
such a clash in the look and the wrestling that

810
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:42,440
it separated. It fit together by being so different. The

811
00:47:42,519 --> 00:47:50,039
fact that she's like kind of nothing is over the top.

812
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:57,239
On both sides. It's like like, oh, you overdo it

813
00:47:57,639 --> 00:48:01,360
or change and be seen use and forget about the

814
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,239
dress and get get like a one piece like Natty

815
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,719
or so you look strong and you look like I

816
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,639
don't know an athlete, like not none of this. She

817
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,079
doesn't look like an athlete with a dress, but more

818
00:48:16,199 --> 00:48:18,599
of a fighter kind of look ish.

819
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: You could do like a like a like the Black

820
00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:25,199
Widow from from Avengers kind of thing. Maybe make it

821
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,920
sleeveless because you know, you know, or make it a

822
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,880
little you know, I don't know what the cad is,

823
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,039
but you know where it cuts up middle of your

824
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,079
traps and and down sort of you.

825
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:35,559
Speaker 4: Know that like.

826
00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:40,119
Speaker 1: Like the one piece. Okay, not not the very sexy

827
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:41,119
want from the run.

828
00:48:42,599 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 2: Sexy, but because because her shoulders and traps are are

829
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,000
so big and she's so broad that I think that

830
00:48:48,079 --> 00:48:49,440
would show that.

831
00:48:50,199 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 1: It shows that she's strong, she's an athlete, that she's

832
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,840
she's a pretty girl, but she's she could be a

833
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,840
threat as well. You should play with that. And that's

834
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,199
why I'm like, I'm not sure at the dress stance,

835
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,880
because what do you want to present?

836
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 2: And Mom made those dresses for her, so they're nice.

837
00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:12,599
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, either you play with that where you

838
00:49:13,039 --> 00:49:15,800
come out like super freaking bobbly, but as soon as

839
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:20,760
you hear the freaking she loses it and then it

840
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,559
becomes freaking violent like you have to play with it

841
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:28,960
but nothing yeah, like not being like in the middle

842
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,320
or like uh yeah, you gotta work with it or

843
00:49:33,559 --> 00:49:35,360
change it. That's that's what I feel.

844
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: But she was definitely more serious. She was using more

845
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:42,440
power and strikes. She was bigger, meaning that she was

846
00:49:42,519 --> 00:49:45,920
making more sounds, and her arms were going more up

847
00:49:46,039 --> 00:49:49,840
top not all down below. So she had taken advice.

848
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,920
I definitely thought that she was better. I'm not sure

849
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,920
it's enough with this stage, but I came out of

850
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,719
this match definitely seeing the potential in Zena again. But

851
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,320
if you know, they were forced to make cuts, and

852
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,480
not that they are, but they were forced to make cuts.

853
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,639
I don't think she would survive the cut, but they're not.

854
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,840
There's there's there's still time. And then I just hope

855
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,039
Nikita doesn't need this show. Yeah, doesn't need the show.

856
00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: And Nikita came out and I was like, she has

857
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,440
such a good entrance, and I think that right now

858
00:50:24,679 --> 00:50:27,199
she found the right.

859
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,159
Speaker 2: Groove. She found a groove.

860
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,159
Speaker 1: Well you know how Booker was telling her, you know,

861
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,960
be sexy, but not too much, like she has the

862
00:50:38,039 --> 00:50:43,239
perfect balance. Now she's sexy, but she's not like trash.

863
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,800
She's like she's she's a badass, but she's fucking sexy

864
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:51,199
at the safe. It's like the perfect combination. She's fucking sexy,

865
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,199
like you know, a guy would want her as a wife,

866
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,320
but also would ask her to beat someone up because

867
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,079
you can believe she can kick some ass. So I

868
00:51:00,199 --> 00:51:02,320
was like, I think she found the perfect balance.

869
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:03,559
Speaker 2: So I love that.

870
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: Yes, you could be fucking sexy and you could be like,

871
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,559
you know, like I'm a dream for whoever's watching, but

872
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,400
also you can make people believe that yes I I

873
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,719
you know, maybe I'm in your sexy dreams, but I

874
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,239
can be in your nightmares as well, because I could

875
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,880
kick your ass. And I feel like that's where she's at,

876
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:31,239
and I feel that's where female wrestlers should be. It's

877
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,719
a little like Riho Ripley could do. Like it's a

878
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,960
little bit like that. You got people who got you know,

879
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:39,880
major carushes on Rhea. But she also looks like she

880
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:44,280
can kick your ass, so you know it's but Nikita,

881
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:45,920
she's more sexual.

882
00:51:46,199 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 2: Yes, even doesn't even have to be. I mean, Live

883
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,760
Morgan is a great fan fatale, but she's more like

884
00:51:52,840 --> 00:52:00,960
the conniving you know, anning, sneaky, tricky, tactical, but she's

885
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,800
vicious when she needs to be. I mean, yeah, but

886
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,800
I agree. I think Nikita has definitely found her space

887
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,119
and and and she can also be a little funny

888
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:13,599
and quirky but still be a heel. It's it. It's

889
00:52:13,639 --> 00:52:17,480
not easy and and she got it and and she

890
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,599
and it and the one nice things about having followed

891
00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:24,599
a ball from the beginning and having covered it before

892
00:52:24,679 --> 00:52:27,760
night off to cover it anymore, because those folks, you know,

893
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:34,400
sort of rescued me. But it's like all sudden, like

894
00:52:34,639 --> 00:52:36,559
it was like a snap and like a light went on,

895
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,840
and like from one just one week to the next.

896
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,679
And also it was like a whole different thing in

897
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,639
the ring, and then like four or five weeks later

898
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,440
it was a whole different character. And it's like the

899
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,800
first week was a little bit too campy, and then

900
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,800
the next week she got just right and she hasn't

901
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,280
lost it sense, And I like this.

902
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, I love when people call me just

903
00:53:00,599 --> 00:53:06,239
like yeah, there was a strong lock up, and I

904
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,880
thought the same as you, Zena. She looked a lot

905
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,239
more solid. Both of them were working the camera compared

906
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,000
to the match before they were working the camera. Xena

907
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:22,960
had her face up, her clotheslines, solid clothes lines, finally

908
00:53:23,199 --> 00:53:28,840
making her sound, and she had solid cover and everything

909
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,960
she did with her face was so much better. It

910
00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:36,440
didn't look like cheesy and overacting. It looked real, It

911
00:53:36,599 --> 00:53:40,119
looked painful, it looked like, I like when she went

912
00:53:40,199 --> 00:53:43,159
for covers and she would just stick her tongue out,

913
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,079
it just came out like so naturally. So I thought

914
00:53:46,159 --> 00:53:49,280
they gave her a little a little cool side, like

915
00:53:49,639 --> 00:53:52,320
look at her, like she's she's she's a cool gallon.

916
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,559
She can get gas, you know. There was a big

917
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,719
freaking back elbow to start to eat from the Kita

918
00:54:00,039 --> 00:54:03,639
Nikita the knees, and I love that. At the beginning

919
00:54:03,679 --> 00:54:06,280
of the match, Zina was working her arm and the

920
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,199
whole match, Nikita was selling her arm from those arm

921
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,519
bar From the beginning of the match. The punches to

922
00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:19,039
the gut were good from Zena. She had good intensity.

923
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:24,639
But that's I thought, that's the thing that I think

924
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,440
she still needs to work on the punches, maybe throw

925
00:54:28,519 --> 00:54:32,199
them a little bit further and kind of it's really

926
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:36,280
hard to explain where you need to look stiff without

927
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,519
being stiff, where you can't have your arm being too

928
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:45,599
kind of sluggish or like, but it needs to look

929
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:51,639
like it hurts. And she's almost there like leaps and

930
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,079
bound from other matches that I've watched from her. But yeah,

931
00:54:55,159 --> 00:55:00,960
she needs to have like that stiff miss in her

932
00:55:01,039 --> 00:55:06,480
body where it looks like it hurts, not like it's

933
00:55:07,199 --> 00:55:08,760
but she's almost there.

934
00:55:09,639 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 2: There was like he said that, he said that he

935
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,000
was nitpicking, but he said and he sort of suggested,

936
00:55:14,119 --> 00:55:17,079
he said, he basically said, you know, I didn't use

937
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:19,360
punches that much. I would, I would, I would very

938
00:55:19,519 --> 00:55:21,920
I would go from chops to forum chop forum chop

939
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,039
form and then when I did a punch it really

940
00:55:24,119 --> 00:55:28,280
meant something, you know. So I don't know, but like

941
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:33,960
you know, Jeff, Jared doc Gallows, they have very good, exaggerated,

942
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,559
you know work punches that obviously don't hurt anybody, but

943
00:55:38,639 --> 00:55:40,639
they look like they do. And you're right, it's so

944
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,519
much of the of the recoil and the kickback is

945
00:55:45,039 --> 00:55:48,199
on the the backhand part of it, you know, the

946
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,719
wind up, you know, and then the forum part is

947
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,119
actually shorthanded and it's verified. And maybe she could do

948
00:55:55,199 --> 00:55:57,639
that or just say we do what Booker says. But

949
00:55:57,679 --> 00:56:00,559
Booker said it was almost spot on. And you know

950
00:56:00,639 --> 00:56:04,280
what for someone who made a promise to put in

951
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,800
gives give me sixty minutes of work, and he said,

952
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,480
I'm not going to give you a whole news in,

953
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,559
but you will definitely be on the right path now

954
00:56:12,599 --> 00:56:15,719
when he mitigated the expectations down to that, when he

955
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,719
was getting away from being braggadoto, she's Booker and just

956
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,000
confident coach knows what to do with student Booker. I

957
00:56:24,079 --> 00:56:26,880
think he delivered on this promise. I think he kept

958
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,519
this promise of give him sixty minutes and he's going

959
00:56:29,559 --> 00:56:31,159
to and he's going to get someone on the right path.

960
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:35,360
So kudos to z you know, kudos to Booker, Kudos

961
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,239
to Nikita because he helped him. But you know, I'm

962
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:39,719
not gonna say it was the greatest match in the world,

963
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:44,639
but I thought it was a perfectly good television wrestling match.

964
00:56:45,199 --> 00:56:47,559
If this wasn't on LFG, it could have been on

965
00:56:47,639 --> 00:56:52,360
Evolve and it probably even could have been on NXC early.

966
00:56:54,199 --> 00:56:54,800
I love.

967
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,519
Speaker 1: I just want to say one more thing that I

968
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:01,719
love that they were selling to the next spot, Like

969
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,760
if Nikita needed to be in a corner, she would

970
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,400
get hit and move herself to the corner. There was

971
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,960
no you know last week, I was like, oh, why

972
00:57:11,079 --> 00:57:13,559
so many whips, whips to the corner, this whip to

973
00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:16,119
the rope whipped the is like you no sell to

974
00:57:16,239 --> 00:57:17,920
the next spot. First of all, you're not going to

975
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,639
be as blown up and it's not gonna look as

976
00:57:21,679 --> 00:57:26,559
kind of shitty. Yeah, I said the word shit so

977
00:57:26,639 --> 00:57:30,119
many times and uh it was Bailey's match from last week.

978
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,239
It's like I said, I've never said shit that much.

979
00:57:33,599 --> 00:57:37,400
But yeah, I love that they were selling to you know,

980
00:57:37,519 --> 00:57:40,679
the next spot. And the finish was great where Zena

981
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,760
goes for she attempts to gut wrench and then there's

982
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,280
a back kick that she ducks, and then there's another

983
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:50,039
one coming right away, right on target, and she fell

984
00:57:50,119 --> 00:57:54,119
like a second potato one, two three, and once again

985
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,599
Nikita's selling is still selling her arm from the beginning

986
00:57:58,639 --> 00:58:02,440
of the match. So to me, it was the best

987
00:58:02,559 --> 00:58:06,760
Xena match And I was like, yeah, Nikita's ready for NXT.

988
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,320
I was like, I don't know how long you can

989
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,079
keep her there. I mean, if you need her as

990
00:58:12,119 --> 00:58:16,400
a ring general, I do agree, but from what I saw,

991
00:58:16,599 --> 00:58:19,639
Like I remember when she first got to w W

992
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,280
and of course because of her look and her thickness,

993
00:58:23,679 --> 00:58:28,119
which I do appreciate tick ladies, because back in my days,

994
00:58:28,199 --> 00:58:31,280
if you we were thick, we were called fat and

995
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:36,039
it was terrible. But everybody is like, oh my god,

996
00:58:36,199 --> 00:58:38,519
like they were putting her over so much. And I

997
00:58:38,559 --> 00:58:39,760
would watch the wrestling and.

998
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: I was like, oh God, like I have a little

999
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:48,480
confession on that. Yeah, I'm starting to find less toxicas attractive.

1000
00:58:49,079 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: Oh yes, there's let's say it. There's a lot of

1001
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:54,559
booty there.

1002
00:58:55,119 --> 00:58:58,119
Speaker 2: There's a lot of booty there. There's a lot of

1003
00:58:58,159 --> 00:58:59,840
booty there. I'm starting to find.

1004
00:58:59,679 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: Her like, yeah, I think it's no, it's I think

1005
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,679
it's Lady Maddina. Oh my god.

1006
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what. I don't know what it's

1007
00:59:07,679 --> 00:59:11,039
like without the mask. I'm not sure that they care

1008
00:59:11,119 --> 00:59:14,480
what it's like without the masks. So but yeah, I've

1009
00:59:14,559 --> 00:59:17,039
I've come a long way from saying they let pregnant

1010
00:59:17,079 --> 00:59:19,800
women wrestle to kind of did those women.

1011
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: Of course they're stronger and they could kill you in

1012
00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:23,880
just the last shot.

1013
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 2: I just was that that seems like a nice way

1014
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,079
to die. Sounds like a nice way to die.

1015
00:59:32,679 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, overall, is is it a brand

1016
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,480
new Zena? Uh not yet, but is it a much

1017
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:46,760
better Zena? Oh my god, yes it is. I've been

1018
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,440
saying it like she needed another coach, she needed another

1019
00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:55,800
coach and you know, once one shot or I don't

1020
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,679
know really how many shots with Brooker t but I

1021
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:04,400
all a major improvement and pretty much everything in this match.

1022
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:10,000
So we are good stuff Zena. I mean, I'm I'm

1023
01:00:10,039 --> 01:00:14,000
looking forward to what's next. And she want a brand

1024
01:00:14,039 --> 01:00:17,639
new Zena. I'm I'm, you know, try a new character,

1025
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:23,079
try new gear, try something more. What is she doing?

1026
01:00:23,199 --> 01:00:26,679
What was she doing as a sport before? Is she

1027
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:27,960
track and field? What is she?

1028
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good question. Yeah, I remember I think

1029
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,719
she was a lifter. I think she was a powerlift.

1030
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,840
She might have been track and field. Also look like

1031
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:37,800
doing like shot put?

1032
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:45,199
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the well they're wearing those one piece gear,

1033
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:49,760
the the you know, they should they should try to

1034
01:00:50,199 --> 01:00:53,840
get something closer to that. I think she would be

1035
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,599
one more comfortable and why not why not use the

1036
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:58,840
colors of Ukraine.

1037
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:08,039
Speaker 2: She she's one of the only all along. They just

1038
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,199
so for anyone who doesn't follow her on social media

1039
01:01:11,519 --> 01:01:14,719
or doesn't spend all their time on social media wrestling

1040
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,480
and see it. She has been showing a new look.

1041
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,320
Her hair is shorter. It's not short, but it's shorter,

1042
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:25,639
and she's wearing like mostly black leather. I mean some

1043
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,280
of it is casual wear also, but also some of

1044
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,280
it looks like wrestling where sort of a little bit

1045
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,960
like the Black Widow thing, but not not exactly. And

1046
01:01:37,079 --> 01:01:41,400
they teased on Evolve that she was throwing a temper

1047
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,360
transtrument and she was gonna and that something had to change,

1048
01:01:45,039 --> 01:01:47,519
and we haven't seen her since on Evolve with that

1049
01:01:48,239 --> 01:01:50,800
and in LFG, I sort of figured that that would

1050
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:54,639
be the debut because it was so long ago on

1051
01:01:55,679 --> 01:01:59,519
Evolve and they film LFG and Evolves sort of they overlap,

1052
01:01:59,639 --> 01:02:02,559
so I was hoping we actually saw the new so

1053
01:02:02,599 --> 01:02:04,800
I was a little bit disappointed, but then she sort

1054
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:08,599
of performed well, so so maybe next time she'll have

1055
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,639
the new look as well, and that will maybe that'll

1056
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,440
sort of feel like a new character. But I'm with you,

1057
01:02:14,559 --> 01:02:18,400
I lean into I mean, Lana without the accent was

1058
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,239
definitely not the same as Lana with the accent.

1059
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely absolutely. I miss Lana with the accent.

1060
01:02:25,199 --> 01:02:25,599
Speaker 2: With with.

1061
01:02:27,079 --> 01:02:31,239
Speaker 1: They were such a great team together, good times and.

1062
01:02:33,719 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 2: I love too. I got and I think there's one

1063
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,400
one more shot for for for use Day and you know,

1064
01:02:39,559 --> 01:02:42,320
and like I said, you know, bring bringing the EU.

1065
01:02:42,639 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: So come on, Ti Ko, you know you want to

1066
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:45,599
sell more shirts.

1067
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,519
Speaker 2: I know there's this Dan Housen thing. Can't stay stay

1068
01:02:49,559 --> 01:02:50,039
hot forever.

1069
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: He's doing pretty good.

1070
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's a sensation. He's he's literally a phenomena.

1071
01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: But I hope he gets I hope she gets a

1072
01:03:02,159 --> 01:03:06,480
blimp or a balloon or something at the Basis parade

1073
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,480
full of monies, full of human monies falling from the sky.

1074
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,119
Speaker 2: No disagreement. I mean, I I have, you know, I

1075
01:03:18,239 --> 01:03:21,960
have a Dan Housen baseball jersey. I have a Dan

1076
01:03:22,039 --> 01:03:24,880
Housen you know, COVID mask guy. You know, so I've

1077
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:29,039
got I've got the March gone back a while from.

1078
01:03:31,039 --> 01:03:35,559
But yeah, Dan Housen down Zena, uh and Xena maybe

1079
01:03:35,639 --> 01:03:39,039
not Zena. Maybe she'll just be Zeno or maybe just Starline.

1080
01:03:39,079 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, but we'll say zenas in Nope, agent Z,

1081
01:03:44,119 --> 01:03:47,480
agent Z. Anyway, I thought that was a pretty good

1082
01:03:47,519 --> 01:03:52,360
episode for I'm kind of getting used to this format,

1083
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,400
but I feel like the past two weeks have been

1084
01:03:56,039 --> 01:03:58,239
I don't know, like the flow of it was better

1085
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:02,400
than the first ones. I feel like I remember the

1086
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,039
first episodes, I was like, oh, this is a little long.

1087
01:04:05,159 --> 01:04:07,639
Now I feel like, Okay, that went by fast. It's

1088
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,280
maybe it's because the matches are a little bit better,

1089
01:04:10,719 --> 01:04:14,599
or I see people getting better, or I don't know,

1090
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:19,639
it's just the flow is just better. So hopefully it

1091
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,599
keeps going this way for episode nine, which.

1092
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 2: Will be I also think one of the things we've

1093
01:04:25,519 --> 01:04:28,119
probably missed in the beginning was the sort of the

1094
01:04:28,199 --> 01:04:31,440
competition between the judges and how they were snipe sniping

1095
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,440
with each other. But I think actually with that gun

1096
01:04:34,559 --> 01:04:36,840
and now being used to it, we can actually focus

1097
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,840
on the wrestlers in the actual co chain.

1098
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 4: Ye.

1099
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's better or just different,

1100
01:04:44,239 --> 01:04:46,119
but I like it. I agree with you. I thought

1101
01:04:46,159 --> 01:04:49,559
the last two episodes were quite good. I think it

1102
01:04:49,639 --> 01:04:52,079
also helps when you don't have something silly like I

1103
01:04:52,159 --> 01:04:55,360
mean no offense. I personally, but Andre Chase did not

1104
01:04:55,519 --> 01:04:58,280
need to be on LFG, and neither did the Polo Cruise,

1105
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,400
and I think it was actually cruel to do that

1106
01:05:00,679 --> 01:05:03,880
to them, given what they did because you know, I

1107
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:05,760
mean I did two rants last week on it, so

1108
01:05:06,199 --> 01:05:10,320
but but yeah, I do like the format. And I

1109
01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:13,960
guess this was episode eight. What was last year fourteen

1110
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,559
episodes something like that. Yeah, so you know, we're we're

1111
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,840
not in the final stretch, but we're approaching the final stretch.

1112
01:05:22,119 --> 01:05:24,639
I don't know what that means, since people have been

1113
01:05:24,679 --> 01:05:27,079
getting contracts sort of along the way and being sent

1114
01:05:27,159 --> 01:05:30,440
to different places. They're talking about Triple A a lot.

1115
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,519
I know the news of the day today Sammy Callahan

1116
01:05:35,679 --> 01:05:40,679
and Tommy Dreamer, you know, both released from TNA. Earlier

1117
01:05:40,679 --> 01:05:43,039
in the week they released Tessa. I mean they've been resigning.

1118
01:05:43,079 --> 01:05:46,320
They resigned Tasha Steeles and brought back Amazing redback for

1119
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:47,800
I don't know if it's one night or whatever. So,

1120
01:05:48,199 --> 01:05:50,800
I mean, you know, people only focusing on who's gone

1121
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,639
as opposed to who's coming. It's a smart as talent wise,

1122
01:05:53,679 --> 01:05:57,880
it's probably you know, numerically, it's probably very similar, but

1123
01:05:58,559 --> 01:06:02,599
you know, the obviously created is different. And they issued

1124
01:06:02,599 --> 01:06:05,480
a statement about streamlining and cross cutting, and of course

1125
01:06:05,519 --> 01:06:09,039
everybody thinks that when that happens, that you're looking to

1126
01:06:09,159 --> 01:06:13,320
be posturing yourself to be attractive to be bought or

1127
01:06:13,719 --> 01:06:15,320
you know, soul depending on which side of And of

1128
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,559
course everyone thinks they'll be WWE, which I don't. I

1129
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:23,360
don't know why WWE would want them, I mean, but okay,

1130
01:06:23,559 --> 01:06:25,920
I mean, but it wouldn't hurt to have another brand

1131
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,000
where you can put some of these talents on there

1132
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:32,000
along with a core of you know, I mean, I

1133
01:06:32,079 --> 01:06:34,440
haven't seen Callie arms from much on TV lately, and

1134
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,840
you know, I understand it's crowded field, but I don't

1135
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,360
know if it's a thing. But I don't know.

1136
01:06:41,239 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: Have you heard about WWE? And actually a lot of

1137
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:49,400
a lot of companies right now are having trouble getting

1138
01:06:49,519 --> 01:06:50,800
visas for their wrestlers.

1139
01:06:52,039 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 2: I'm hearing all of it. I don't know that I

1140
01:06:54,679 --> 01:06:58,519
believe it so much. I I think that some places

1141
01:06:58,559 --> 01:07:02,119
are having trouble having visas. I think in other cases

1142
01:07:02,679 --> 01:07:05,320
it's probably hold over from where they were before they

1143
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,679
were smart. Are they doing their own visa and they're

1144
01:07:07,719 --> 01:07:10,119
trying to adjust it and then a lot of visas.

1145
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,039
Like I think people maybe they don't remember a couple

1146
01:07:13,079 --> 01:07:15,320
of years ago when Gunter couldn't go on any of

1147
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,119
the international shows because at a certain point in your

1148
01:07:18,159 --> 01:07:21,239
adjustment of status. You can't leave the United States for

1149
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,559
a year to get it, so he couldn't go on.

1150
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,159
And I think there might be some things like that

1151
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,119
going on with like Joe Hendry and Ilia Dragon Off

1152
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,320
and so they haven't been on TV because they were

1153
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,000
doing a European tour and they're going to Saudi Arabia,

1154
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,280
so all the shows are they can't play a part

1155
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,000
in it. So what's really the point unless you want

1156
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:41,719
them to lose every match, in which case everyone will

1157
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:45,519
complain about burying Ilia who has a cult following and

1158
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,760
bearing Joe Hendry, who's specially when you're a new star,

1159
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:50,920
so you know, when they get that all settled or

1160
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,559
when they're you know, domestic for us. But it could

1161
01:07:53,679 --> 01:07:56,320
very well be that that's the reason that it's not

1162
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,320
a visa problem. It's just part of the visa process.

1163
01:07:59,679 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 1: Well i'm mentioning the visa. It's because Anthem, you know,

1164
01:08:04,559 --> 01:08:09,280
TNA is actually a Canadian company and now that maybe

1165
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:13,679
Leaf Wrestling has you know, a TV deal in Canada,

1166
01:08:15,039 --> 01:08:19,119
I'm wondering if you know, WW would not try to

1167
01:08:19,239 --> 01:08:24,079
get their foot into the country to kind of be

1168
01:08:24,399 --> 01:08:29,319
like an opposition to it or I like, I don't know,

1169
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,840
I don't know how they think. Like sometimes you feel

1170
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,600
like they don't give a damn about other companies, but

1171
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,279
then you see that they do. They try to squash

1172
01:08:38,319 --> 01:08:42,039
pretty much everybody that's around. So I don't know. I

1173
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don't know anyway, all speculations at this point.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I do know that it's helpful.

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It's easier to get visas and travel permits when you

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own a business in that particular country. I mean that

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that's I know that's in Japan, I know in Mexico,

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I know it in Canada and certainly here in the US.

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But I wouldn't be surprised if they are just visa

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issues period, because visas are tougher and you know about it, right,

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But I think that there's different buckets. I'm just speculating here.

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This is so, But yeah, that's going on in the gossip.

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I mean, you know, because of the fact LFG probably

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not so much. But we're not you know, we're not robots.

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We can talk about whatever we want.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean we'll see what happens with all

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these people coming up from the PC. I mean, there's

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there seems to be a lot of people, and at

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the same time, you just see the same wrestlers on

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SmackDown or Raw, so you're like, how many people are

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actually ready to go to the main ross? Why is

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the King of the Ring like with the same people

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we see all the time instead of trying to get

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01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:54,000
you know, a wild card in there. It's it would

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01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:58,359
be the perfect way to bring somebody from NXT up

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or at least in first round to see, hey, can

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they connect with the crowd from SmackDown or the crowd

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from Raw or is there anything there? You know a

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little bit what like they did with Javon where they

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would bring him for a match or two, and then

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like King of the Ring is a great way to

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just try stuff because if they lose in first round

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and your guys going you know, further anyway, it doesn't matter.

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01:10:21,279 --> 01:10:23,039
But at least you can see, Okay, you had a

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good connection with people, he did a great match. You know,

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he could be an asset, but there.

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Speaker 2: Was none of that. And yeah, so of one of

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those side effects or direct effects of having these monthly

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01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:41,159
pls and sometimes more than monthly, you don't have time

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01:10:41,199 --> 01:10:43,079
for all that. You can't have like a real tournament

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01:10:43,079 --> 01:10:45,520
where you could bring a piple from NXD and Triple

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A and whatever and have them lose in the first round.

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Because you have a tour, you have brackets of sixteen

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on each side instead you have two fatal four ways

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and then you're in. Then you're in the semi finals.

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I mean, you know, it's it's it's on each side.

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Speaker 1: It's it's I missed the King of the Ring one night,

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three matches, like it was a real tournament, A good times.

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Speaker 2: It is what it is.

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01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:16,560
Speaker 1: Anyway, that was it for LFG this week. There's an

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01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:20,000
almost new zena. So there's a better zeno. Let's let's

1222
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,399
put it this way. So where can they find you,

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01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,920
my dear Jeff online? Where where?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,359
Speaker 2: Yes, so many places to find me. So if you

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01:11:30,399 --> 01:11:33,079
want to find me on the X, you can find

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01:11:33,119 --> 01:11:37,239
me at Dose, Underscore Evil. That's for my wrestling nonsense,

1228
01:11:37,279 --> 01:11:38,840
And if you're listening to this, that's probably the only

1229
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:42,279
place you really want to follow me. Obviously, you can

1230
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,199
find me here on Wrestling Soup doing the LFG show

1231
01:11:46,359 --> 01:11:48,279
on Wrestling Soup and Friendos. But we have a whole

1232
01:11:48,279 --> 01:11:51,279
bunch of shows, so I do participate in some of those.

1233
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,319
I have a podcast called Garden of Thought, which you

1234
01:11:54,359 --> 01:11:58,640
can find on Wrestling Soup dot com, but it's a

1235
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:02,399
Garden of Thought you can find on all platforms, and

1236
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:07,359
there's at Garden of Thought pod on YouTube. I also

1237
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:11,399
premiered the MLW Files, where me and my best friend

1238
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mister Thomas review MLW. It's our first wrestling show together.

1239
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:19,920
It's on the Sports Jedi network, which has been a

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01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,560
friend to the Soup and especially the Rest and Sup

1241
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:26,880
and friendos. And there were a lot of views and

1242
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,479
they're they're on a lot of platforms, so that's a

1243
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:33,399
lot of fun. Obviously, that's put a little added kink

1244
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,239
in booking for Gospel of Thomas because there's no way

1245
01:12:36,239 --> 01:12:40,119
he's doing two shows with me a week. And I,

1246
01:12:40,199 --> 01:12:43,479
to be honest, I've been burned a bunch by some

1247
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:47,279
ghosts and some yesses that went away and some yeses

1248
01:12:47,319 --> 01:12:50,279
that were evoked. And also so you know, this is

1249
01:12:50,359 --> 01:12:53,720
more fun, this is this is easier. And I also

1250
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:57,720
did I did two guest spots on on Sports Jedi

1251
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:02,600
one last Saturday and won the Saturday or two Saturdays before,

1252
01:13:03,039 --> 01:13:05,119
mostly on legal stuff with a lot of the Janelle

1253
01:13:05,119 --> 01:13:08,199
Grant stuff, some of the Moxley stuff and thema stuff. Frankly,

1254
01:13:08,239 --> 01:13:12,000
I did a little mini podcast that for the soup,

1255
01:13:12,279 --> 01:13:16,119
but miss hasn't published it yet or edited yet. For

1256
01:13:16,239 --> 01:13:18,640
the soup or Souper and friendos, I'm not sure which

1257
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,399
one it would go on, but that's a mini version anyway.

1258
01:13:21,399 --> 01:13:23,119
If want to see a maxi version where people actually

1259
01:13:23,119 --> 01:13:25,800
asking me questions and they're on YouTube and on a

1260
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,720
bunch of other platforms, so sports, Jedi networks, so show

1261
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:31,720
them a little bit of love because I really appreciate them,

1262
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:35,159
and uh, you know that that's probably enough for me.

1263
01:13:35,319 --> 01:13:37,520
How about you? Where can they find the leather?

1264
01:13:38,079 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 1: You can find me on faba dot com, slash so Fisto,

1265
01:13:41,199 --> 01:13:44,800
It's lo Fisto Official on YouTube where you can see

1266
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:48,680
me in action and holder ranches, good stuff, bad stuff,

1267
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,800
all kinds of stuff. You can also find me on

1268
01:13:52,279 --> 01:13:56,359
x at the Lo Fisto, LuFisto Arts and for wrestling

1269
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:01,079
on Instagram. And that's it, and anything else you see

1270
01:14:01,119 --> 01:14:04,880
about me is not real. These are my only accounts.

1271
01:14:06,199 --> 01:14:08,720
I also have a documentary if you want to follow.

1272
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:16,319
It's at LuFisto doc doc on Instagram. The documentary is

1273
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:22,840
my Emmy Award winner Adam Evans and some images that

1274
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:26,159
are coming out and some quotes from the movie and stuff.

1275
01:14:26,279 --> 01:14:29,920
So still in production, but it's it's getting there, and

1276
01:14:30,359 --> 01:14:35,039
Adam's doing such a fantastic job at teasing people. And honestly,

1277
01:14:35,119 --> 01:14:39,960
I haven't seen it myself. Maybe I look terrible, who knows,

1278
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:41,439
but yeah.

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01:14:41,319 --> 01:14:43,600
Speaker 2: He's I doubt I do a whole doc with about you,

1280
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,960
and you look terrible through the whole thing. And maybe,

1281
01:14:47,319 --> 01:14:49,560
just maybe that might be something where we can arrange

1282
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,680
like through the for people who join the Wrestling Soup Discord,

1283
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,680
which you should first of all thanks to well, last

1284
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,800
of all obvious and say it first of all thanks

1285
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,159
to Joey Mish for being here on Wrestling Soup. Please subscribe.

1286
01:15:01,199 --> 01:15:03,199
I mean, obviously you're listening to this our wrestling soup,

1287
01:15:03,399 --> 01:15:06,760
but subscribe, like, join the Patreon, give them money, if

1288
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:10,479
you can buy March, if you can the soup, Yeah,

1289
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,960
and join the discord. And so that was my little

1290
01:15:13,039 --> 01:15:16,279
segue that maybe when the movie comes out, we can

1291
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,600
arrange like a soup discord, you know, in the screening room,

1292
01:15:20,359 --> 01:15:21,000
a watch along.

1293
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Speaker 1: That would be great. And actually Adam is pretty open

1294
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:28,399
at doing stuff like that and talking about the movies

1295
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,920
and stuff, So yeah, it would be a possibility.

1296
01:15:33,319 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe we'll bring the two of you onto the

1297
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,800
Sports Jedi Network. Maybe I'll start doing some entertainment. One's

1298
01:15:38,199 --> 01:15:41,239
my friend Vinie Pacifico, who you probably know. He's a

1299
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,319
independent wrestler, but he's been cast in like five horror

1300
01:15:44,399 --> 01:15:48,680
movies in like the last three years, and so every

1301
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,359
now and then he brings like, you know, people involved

1302
01:15:51,359 --> 01:15:53,479
in the movie, like actors and people on the crew

1303
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:57,239
and whatever, and they don't really fit in the Garden

1304
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:03,399
of Thought Gospel of Thomas universe, but so that might

1305
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:07,680
be something there. And also, you know, anyway, I've talked enough.

1306
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 1: I always actually just join us on Discord on the

1307
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:15,600
wrestling shoot Discord. We watch raw together, we can plain together,

1308
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:20,319
we talk about SmackDown what we don't like. Tons of

1309
01:16:20,359 --> 01:16:24,279
funny gifts, nice nice community with the wrestling soup again,

1310
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,800
like subscribe to their Patreon, follow them on Twitter, and

1311
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:33,359
all those beautiful stuff in Well, what's it this week?

1312
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,279
I think it's enough. We had enough with Xena and

1313
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:42,520
all these fine folks at the Boy the of LFG

1314
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:47,560
and we will uh not see you, but we will

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01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:48,800
watch ANYXTCEE next week.

1316
01:16:49,239 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 2: And Chris, I don't think you need to give up,

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01:16:54,359 --> 01:17:01,359
all right, stayable my friends, Spong wong vom