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because according to Plato, in the middle of Atlantis there

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temple of Poseidon, and then of course the concentric rains

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of water and land. And ten Stitlan, the Aztec capital

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from the times of conquistad also a very recent one

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previous land Atstland so Atlantis in Egypt and Greece, and

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Atstland in Mesoamerica on the other side of the world.

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And Teno Stitland was on a huge lake Texcoco in Mexico,

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and it was, you know, a natural island connected with

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smaller natural and artificial islands, everything connected by bridges. And

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at the middle of that there was a pyramid called

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Temple mayorso the Grand Temple. And we know how Mayan,

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Aztec and other mess American premit looked like they are

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often even not pyramids, but amounts well with such chapels

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on top of that. And I think that it shows

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us that this acident was Atlantis.

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Speaker 2: The disclaimer to the pharisees karents out there? How dare you?

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the host. The purpose of the show is to have

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interesting conversations, stretch your minds and grow, not what we want.

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Speaker 2: I hold out that glass man because we are about

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to feel it. Welcome to the Premedious Lens podcast, the

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be much much appreciated. Well man, guys, got a great

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guest for you, lined up so good. I come dressed

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to impress. I wore the sports coat with the advisory

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this guy right here. But I'm just joking around with you, guys.

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But I'm excited though, because I do got a great

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guest for you. This is a returning guest. Had him

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on the show once before this, so this is his

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second appearance. Our first conversation we got into Atlantis, lost civilizations,

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things like that. It was a great, great conversation. So

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I'm excited to have this man back. But I like

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to welcome back to the show, Alexander. What's going on? Brother?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on again. I really really enjoy

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to the last one, so I'm looking forward to this one.

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And hello everyone listening to us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and see, some people are just naturally gifted and

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look as handsome as Alexander does. And just a blue polo.

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Alexander doesn't need one of these shirts, but you min.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, just the camera, the camera making everything

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Speaker 2: Well have you been, I know what you're always studying.

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You're going to college, you wanted, big brain guys. How's

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everything across the pond?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm right now finishing exams for this year. I

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just you know, past like Ancient Rome, Greece, part of

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also officially joining Paul Anthony Wallace this autumn on his

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journey on his expedition, so I'm looking forward to it.

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my own channel, and also Atlantis Bros. Podcast with my

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friend historian Michael Flm. So lots of the things going on.

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maybe next book coming, maybe this for next year, something

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to get a proper introduction to who you are or

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what you do but you can't tease me like that

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a fellow author and mentioned another book without giving me

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a little bit of insight info or at least me

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on for this next book or is it closed? Lip?

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some point, even a few years ago, like I had

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very big book about lost history, lost civilizations, altogether connecting

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like all the dots. Because already my first book, Deja Book,

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had saving already been. It's like a pretty decent book.

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like all of different theories, all of different dots, analyze

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than very heavily someone thinking of like a big one

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of theories, history, science, cataclysts, et cetera. Like a big,

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big one connecting most of the research available nowadays and

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Speaker 2: Well, man, that sounds exciting. I guess you know, one

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author to the other, and I'm just like you. I

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have so many rabbit holes and notes and things going on.

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had missed our first show or or is not familiar

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this episode. Before we get into the meat of the matter, man,

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Speaker 1: My name is Alexander Tskevich and I'm a Polish researcher

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and author. My first book is Deja Vu Has Everything

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Already Been? And you can find it on most amazons

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easiest way to find me just copy and paste my

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name and surname Alexander Tshkevich into some social media like YouTube,

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Facebook and wherever you find me in English who can

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follow me and you can check my other works or

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other interviews on plenty of channels in English. I also have,

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of course Polish social media. I started very early right now,

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at the age of seventeen and it's like a pretty

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pretty big book, like our medium sized book, four hundred

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something pages with footnotes, bibliography. I saw very early. I

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the more questions I started to ask about, how do

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we know that about our history? So I sat very

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that there is much more to life than jazz, our

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bodies and our physical reality. So I would say that's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very well researched man. And so if you've not

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been introduced to him in my past interviews, you are

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this time, and I'm sure you will see what a

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smart dude this is. And he's just pleasant too, you

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know what I mean. I love getting together talking with you, brother.

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with their all knowing knowledge. But you're not one of those, man.

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Speaker 1: No. I always when people, for instance, in such interviews,

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or what is that. I always tell them, like most

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of the possibilities I research, because I'm not claiming that

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they know the entirety, entire truth about lost history, lost civilizations, metaphysics.

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I show we're often both sides of the coin. I

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don't claim. The more I actually learn, the more I

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see how little I know and how little we as

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humans know about reality.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the more I study, the more I realize

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what I don't know, and I walk away with more

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questions and I have answers. But that excites me. Man,

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some of the things that you had sent me they

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kind of intermingle anyway, So I was like, Man, let's

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grabs my attention is megalists, so like the pyramids and

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stone Hens, and you talked about, you know, some cyclicalar

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time and the equinoxes, all the you know, the astronomy,

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all that stuff fascinates me. Man, what about you. I

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know that stuff fascinates you, but kind of was that

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something that you found at a young age or something

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for ancient megaliths.

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able to see that. So I always liked stones when

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will look like inside of it. So I was very

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into that, collecting gemstones, having books about the geology and

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stuff like that. But when it comes to the megaliths,

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and best evidence for some kind of lost history connected

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to Atlante's and to other civilizations. Because last time we

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extensively talked about Atlantis. But another thing that I learned

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because it was so long we've heard the story of

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Atlantis according to Plato. But the's interesting is it wasn't

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only Solon who probably or most probably traveled to Egypt,

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but lots of ancient, very early philosophers, pre Socratic philosophers,

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who were traveling to Egypt. We know that very well.

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also went to Egypt. So just to you know, connect

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what we were talking about that there is a huge

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possibility that this part of the Atlantic story about Solon

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hearing this Atlantic story in size in the Egyptian city

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from priests is like very very real stuff, the same

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even Plato. But these are just legends, but historical of

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course legends. We do not know if they are one

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hundred percent truth bad they say that Plato also went

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Greek Cyclopean walls, which are almost the same as the

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famous Peruvian Saxieuaman or the stones, the Megalthic walls in

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on the Easter Island or in Egypt, that the Cyclopean walls.

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these were from like before the Greek civilization, the early

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Greek civilization, like the Miking or Miniu and civilization. So

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they say this is how these walls appeared. But actually

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the Greeks themselves were telling us, and there are plenty

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of stories about these walls, that they were made before

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human civilization by cyclops, so before the Greeks. So the

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Greeks claimed that these walls aren't this And I think

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that if they were the builders of such huge megalethic

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Cyclopean walls, polygonal, huge walls with it's very similar stuff

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to the saxe Ikuama and Machu picture walls plenty in

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the Pervian regions we find the famous Megalitic walls. But

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if they were the builders of these walls, the Greeks,

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I think they would be proud of them. They wouldn't say, oh,

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these are some people or cyclopes before us. And I

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think that such megalitic architecture, I call it the global

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Megaldic architecture. And there are a few things that are

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everywhere in the world, like from Asia for east, through

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the Mediterranean Sea, Greece, Italy, Egypt, and far far away

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to the west the peran the Peruvian and Andean mountain ranges.

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few other islands on the Pacific Ocean. I think these

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are the remnants of the lost civilization we are searching for,

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whether it was Atlantis or another kind of civilized that

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was before the first civilizations we know, like ancient Summer Egypt, India.

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I think this is like the evidence for them.

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kind of answering my next question I was going to

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ask you because which I always thought they were fascinating,

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even as a kid, you know, looking at the Pyramids,

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I'm like, how in the world did these ancient people

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build something like this? And you hear about the hanging

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gardens of Babylon, you know, and all these other things.

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It's like, how, you know, we depict these people as

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hunter gatherers and not so intelligent, and here comes along

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Graham Hancock, you know, and Hancock blew my mind, man

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I already kind of had some preconceived notions, but nothing

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to pin it down as fact or to point to

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Man he pointed to a lot of cool and interesting

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things that suggested that these sites are a lot older

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than what we thought. And actually astronomy comes into play

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Speaker 1: Yes, maybe let's still be in this world of prehistoric

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probably megalotic architecture, you see, I think the best of

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course the case that can show us how they look

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like is the Saxigua and Peru or any other kind

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in Peru and in the and there are plenty of

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such megalotic walls. What they are distinguishable from others is

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that they are built from huge blocks at least few

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tones each, some of course smaller, but some even bigger

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up to thirty seventy tones. And they are polygonal. Also,

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there are plenty of angles. It isn't like casual rocks

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or let's say, squares or wregged angles or circles. Now,

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these are polygonal wall which are fit so perfectly together

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that you cannot put like a knife in between them.

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And they are not using in most of these cases

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any kind of stuff put in between them, So no

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like cement or any other kind of things like that.

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So they're just you know, merged together so perfectly, which

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is under question why do that. For instance, in some

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other cases of the walls all over the world, we

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see that people put like smaller stones or some kind

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of mud or some kind of sand in between the

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rocks to make them fit. But these are perfectly fit,

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and we see exact same ones in on Easter Island,

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we see exact same ones. I often have fun with

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doing interviews that I claim that if you show me

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like two pictures, one from let's say Egyptian, because we

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also have such megalothic walls, for instance on the foundations

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of the third smallest permit in Giza, the man Kaara one,

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but also in Osion near the Pera, which is like

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a temple that is underground, and it is like exactly

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the same, built from huge megothic blocks, fit tightly together

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without any kind of things in between them, just as

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in Peru and on plenty of other cases. And I

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always joke that if you took like a picture from

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Egypt and from Peru, even myself, or Graham Hancock probably

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or most of the researchers and experts wouldn't be able

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to tell the difference apart between Egypt and Peru if you,

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let's say, took the U the colors of because okay,

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maybe colors are of course different, but if you took

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the colors off, I think no one could notice the

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difference between them. And you see that they are built

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with the same like techniques because they are polygonal, fit

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together without anything in between. They also have specific knobs,

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so things outside of them. You know, scientists say that

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it was for attaching the rope to it to pull it,

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and maybe to some extent, but maybe not. Of course

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I'm not like a big fan of it. But these

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knobs can also be found in place plenty of places

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on the entire planet. Another thing, maybe these were knobs

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on the outsides, but also Protrusians in these mega lips

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that may be able to put some kind of clamps

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to them so they could connect each other two blocks.

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We also find them in plenty of places all over

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the world, from the for Asia to the Eastern Island

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and South America's I'm repeating myself and repeating, but they

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are in all of those places exactly almost the same.

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There of course, are from different kinds of stones because

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they always used local stones. It isn't that they were

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pulling the stones the entire world over, because it would

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be stupid, of course. And I think it's connected to

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Atlantis because even Plato is telling us that Atlantis was

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a maritime civilization somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean. Bad it

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had to influences over Italy, Greece, and Egypt was its colony.

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I also think that it's connected to For instance, we

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are talking about Graham Honkok. Graham Honkok is one of

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the biggest people out there who talked about anomalous maps.

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But not only these that show probably Antarctica or something,

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but just maps that are showing as pre Ice age,

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so before the last Ice Age, so during probably the

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Atlantean times. Coastlines islands that are missing right now because

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they're underwater because there was a sea level change of

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about one hundred and twenty meters so four hundred feet,

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and even geologists are calculating that all over the world

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they were sank about twenty five million square kilometers, so

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about the size of the entire North America with Mexico Canada,

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not just the US, but entire North America all over

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the world since the end of the last Ice Age.

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So I think it's all connected. That's why I think

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these people of Atlantis or any kind of lost civilizations.

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Maybe it wasn't cult like that, or maybe it was

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a limbouria or something move We do not know exactly,

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but I think that it was a civilization that mapped

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the entire world, build the mega lips and left traces

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of the travels on these animals maps.

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Speaker 2: M Oh yeah, I'm with you. And it kind of

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goes with even not so ancient history. You know, here

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in North America, a lot of the indigenous tribes when

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they were confronted with the mounds and new Ark and

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some of these you know, really big earthworks and mounds,

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they were like, ah, no, we found them, and so

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they thought they were special. So they just kind of,

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you know, took up around them and started doing their

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practices and rituals there and adding to it and kind

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of keeping the grounds up.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: That was something that I honestly had thought for a

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long time, that we are a species with amnesias. He

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likes to say, we are a lot older than what

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people will like to think. And these are kind of

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like echoes or remnants of that of that lost world.

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Uh and me, I worked in plastics for a long

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time and something that I always thought was from here,

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and I actually heard somebody else say this too, But

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it kind of looks like in my injection molding, because

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you have a dye, you know, for the shape you're

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trying to get, and you you liquify this plastic and

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it squirts to this nozzle and into that dye, and

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it's got this heated head that it squirts out of.

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And then once it squirts and inserts that material it

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it retracts and pulls back, and when it does, it

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always makes a nipple, and like they liquified it, you know,

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and done some kind of.

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Speaker 1: Enet this outsight of them. Yeah, yeah, actually I never

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thought of that. So this is a great analogy, and

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maybe that's why you see these knobs. But there were theories,

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for instance, about the Great part of Giza being made

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out of artificial stones, just as you've said, just as

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plastics are being you know, poured, so maybe the same

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way the Great part of Giza, and you know, he

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was partially debunked, but only partially. So maybe you know,

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some rocks were natural and some were not maybe that's

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the case, or maybe it's you know, a completely different one.

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But I think it's a great analogy because you know,

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with natural stones, why would you know, care so much

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about making them fit together perfectly, having you know, multiple angles,

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multiple sides, it's like even eleven eight to some extent,

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So you know, why do that. But if you are

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talking about something being poured into, maybe that's why they

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fit together with you know, all of the concavities and

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stuff like that. So I think that's a great idea.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or maybe they even found a way to take

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the stone and liquify it, you know what I mean,

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instead of being formed, Yeah, so where they could make

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it pliable.

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Speaker 1: And there was one myth about that, one legend in

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the proven region with all the famous megalodic sides that

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you know, people said that there was like a plant

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or a mixture of plants that enabled them to soften

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the stone at least, you know, the sides of the

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stones to some extent. Maybe we haven't found such technology yet.

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What I also found is that some Russian scientists, and

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you know, you never can, at least according to the

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mainstream trust the Russian scientists. I think some things are

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over exaggerated in this way of thinking. I think we

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should look at everything critically, of course, but some Russian

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scientists found that the stones, these proven walls were you know,

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the heat was applied, but extreme heat, like couldn't do

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that with just with some kind of fire or something

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like extreme heat was applied to these stones, and some

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people interpret that maybe some kind of softening method to

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soften the stones, or maybe these are even the traces

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of cataclysm. Because what's interesting is within all of these

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megalothic sites, mainly in ants in Peru, we find, for instance,

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there is a megalothic block of staircase upside down, like imagine,

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I don't know, ten twenty thirty ton block on which

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the staircase were engraved on, and then it's completely upside down.

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So whether it was a cataclysm, whether it was just vandalism,

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but you know why you would put so much work,

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You would need probably hundreds of people to take this

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rock and put it upside down. So these are still

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the questions that we cannot truly answer. Was it the cataclysm,

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was it a stone softening method. I also you've mentioned

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that the Native Americans said that they found dismounts. The

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same thing was for instance, we know that very well

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in the medieval times, the Church was taking pagan and

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Slavic for instance, places of rituals and sacred sites, and

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building building chapels and building different kinds of buildings on

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these sides. Of course, you know, one to control so

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people cannot go to these sacred sides themselves. But also

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that some of the people who were initially pagans, may, okay,

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let's go to the church instead of instead to our

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you know, sacred space. Let's go to the church. Maybe

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it's you know, also on this sacred land, so maybe

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it also has all these powers. So that's how the

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conversion worked, because it wasn't like suddenly everyone became Christian.

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But even for hundreds of years, the paganism was there.

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Even some of the hearing Poland for plenty of examples,

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some of the festivals Christian festivals were just you know,

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put on the days in which there were pagan festivals.

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So the same with different kinds of sacred spaces, sacred

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megalodics sites, and when we have a few of them

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here in Eastern Europe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and some of the research I was doing for

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that book that I'm working on was talking about you know,

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ancient Europe and Ireland, and this author, his name was

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Edward de vere Uh. He talked about the original church.

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You know, term was pulled from I think he said

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it was the word kirk. He said, when they were saying,

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you know, let's go to the kirk, you know, let's

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go to the church, that it was actually originally referring

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to the stones, you know, so instead of saying let's

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go to the church, you know, let's go to the stones,

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talking about the stone.

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Speaker 1: Circles and like, yes, that's I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know, taking their sides and kind of reappropriating them and

475
00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:15,720
also kind of like a term in the eye, you know,

476
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,920
like you know, now we want we're going to be

477
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,000
on our side on top of year old one, you know.

478
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, like domination also, you know, let's dominate them. Let's

479
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,920
you know, make these sides unholy to them because right

480
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,279
now our religion took them. Yes. I also learned recently

481
00:29:33,319 --> 00:29:38,720
when I was studying the medieval times, for instance, the

482
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,640
the Scottish and the Irish charge, how it was formed.

483
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,400
It was one of the earliest you know charges to

484
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,440
form and to completely dominate the pagan regions, because no

485
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,759
entire island and Scottish regions were pagan to a large extent.

486
00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:57,200
And what they did they actually led all of the

487
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,559
previous kind of hierarchy of it was like the family

488
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,319
clans and stuff like that. They allowed that and they

489
00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:11,319
actually got lots of the beliefs or like symbols like

490
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,359
the shamrock is the most famous one, and they made

491
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,440
them just Christian and that's why. Also they were alto

492
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,440
a bit in later times criticized that they did that,

493
00:30:21,599 --> 00:30:25,400
but in that way, they very easily and very fast,

494
00:30:25,559 --> 00:30:31,079
very quickly christianized the entire ireland especially. What's also interesting

495
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,200
is that during these times, you know, through Christian missionaries,

496
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,880
there are plenty of stories being made because you know,

497
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,720
when we look at the map, Ireland is like the

498
00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:45,240
last stand of Europe. Maybe you have Iceland and then

499
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:48,160
you have Greenland and then you have only America. So

500
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,079
there were plenty of even by the Saints, maybe not

501
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,160
Saint Patrick, but Signed Bernard I think he was called

502
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,160
like that, who you know, created an entire piece is

503
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:05,400
a story about Los Islands like Atlante's on the west side.

504
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,519
So it's also like a very interesting, very chaotic period

505
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:10,279
in history.

506
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 5: Most days don't look like an emergency. That's why most

507
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:20,039
people never think about what they're carrying. We do because

508
00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:24,799
preparedness isn't about looking the party, it's about being ready anyway.

509
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,200
Comfort isn't a luxury. It's what keeps you moving when

510
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,240
the day goes longer than planned. That's why every Squatch

511
00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:37,480
survival pack is made here start to finish. Squatch builds

512
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:41,200
packs for people who don't assume the day will stay easy.

513
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:46,720
Rugarou Mothman built to last your missions and be passed

514
00:31:46,759 --> 00:31:51,079
down when you're done. Squatch survival gear ready for the

515
00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:53,359
next one.

516
00:31:56,559 --> 00:32:00,359
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And with you and your study, do you

517
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,720
think that a lot of these were built around the

518
00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:06,720
same time or are we looking at a large plethora

519
00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:09,720
of several thousand years and this is just the remnants

520
00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:13,759
of it. And with that, which do you think is

521
00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:16,119
the oldest megalith.

522
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,079
Speaker 1: I think yes, I think when it comes to these

523
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:28,160
very similar megalithic walls that again Peru, Easter Island, Greece

524
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,720
and Egypt and far East, most of them can be

525
00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:35,119
a little bit pretty historic because, for instance, the biggest

526
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,680
rocks are always at foundations, which is logical, of course,

527
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,279
we wouldn't place small stones and then the biggest ones

528
00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:44,880
on top of small stones. Of course, we would use

529
00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:49,519
the biggest ones as the foundations. But for instance, in Egypt,

530
00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:53,240
these are used even underground. To some extent, the Assui

531
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,559
on the famous temple, which is fully built out of

532
00:32:56,599 --> 00:33:01,039
these megalithic walls with the biggest blocks and ever found

533
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:06,079
find in Egypt, is completely underground, which according to some researchers,

534
00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:08,640
and you know, I analyze that and I try, you know,

535
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:11,759
to some extent I agree with them, may show us

536
00:33:11,839 --> 00:33:15,599
that the later Egyptian buildings were of course built in

537
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,319
much later times because there are right now above ground.

538
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:23,160
Some of course we're also put underground due to you know,

539
00:33:23,319 --> 00:33:26,759
thousands of years of existence of the Egyptian state and

540
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:30,119
then you know, two thousand years since the fall of

541
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,799
ancient Egypt. But I think this shows us that if

542
00:33:33,839 --> 00:33:39,640
these biggest megalithic walls are very very deep down underground,

543
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,359
it may show us that these are much older than

544
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,640
other buildings that are above that that are not created

545
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:49,880
out of such huge blocks. So I think it's a

546
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,960
prehistoric connected to Atlantis. But we cannot date stones. Of course,

547
00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:57,799
we could only date gobecly Tape because it was buried

548
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,759
maybe intentionally as some people suggest, maybe not. But we

549
00:34:02,039 --> 00:34:05,440
have the date when these blocks were buried because in

550
00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:09,199
order to date something we probably need, for instance, organic

551
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,480
material for carbon fourteen dating, which is controversial, but you know,

552
00:34:13,519 --> 00:34:16,679
we can obtain at least some reference when it comes

553
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,719
to the recent past, maybe not like thirty sixty seventy

554
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,559
thousand years old, we cannot do that. There are also

555
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:28,119
other methods, like we can we can date ceramics when

556
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:32,000
it was burned, but we cannot date like just megalists.

557
00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:35,239
We can date organic material that can be found on them.

558
00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:38,400
So we know the date when the gobacly tape was

559
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,320
buried because in you know, sand and in earth that

560
00:34:42,559 --> 00:34:47,480
was the gobacle Tepe was covered with, we found organic material.

561
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:50,559
But maybe the site was much even older than that.

562
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,199
But when it comes to other megalists, we unfortunately cannot

563
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,360
date them well. But I think most of them were prehistoric,

564
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,159
coming from like approximately the times of Atlantis.

565
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: And what about Graham's theory because to me it made

566
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,519
a lot of sense. But about the whole the sphinx,

567
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:18,239
you know, staring at the rising sun, you know, during

568
00:35:18,559 --> 00:35:21,360
you know, ten, twelve thousand year era when the sun

569
00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:25,360
was rising up in the constellation Leo. Uh and even

570
00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:33,440
he's a professor at Boston remember shock shock. Yes, how

571
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:39,239
evenized that there was a second sphinx facing the opposite

572
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:44,880
direction to the west. Do you think that those sphinxes

573
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,960
and stuff were kind of like time stamps showing the people, Hey,

574
00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:53,119
you know this was made during this time of the

575
00:35:53,199 --> 00:35:57,039
age of Leo or what's your thoughts on his theory?

576
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: Yes, it may be a Timeston But the biggest problem

577
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:04,360
is that we do not have any idea if the

578
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:10,239
ancients called this kind of constellation Leo, because okay, there

579
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,320
are different constellations rising it's an objective truth, but how

580
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:19,079
we divide all of the constellations into the twelve famous

581
00:36:19,159 --> 00:36:22,519
Zodac science is just you know, our own modern or

582
00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:25,840
even ancient Greek let's say convention and later one. So

583
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,159
we do not know, and there aren't many evidence and

584
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,360
I searched a lot for that. There aren't many evidence

585
00:36:32,519 --> 00:36:37,000
that ancients, ancients like before the Greeks, like the Egyptians

586
00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:42,800
Submerians thought that this is a consolation of Leo. Particularly,

587
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,239
So this is the biggest problem because nowadays we call

588
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,280
it Leo, but maybe they call it differently. They even

589
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:54,199
may be not calling them because maybe they divided the

590
00:36:54,199 --> 00:36:57,239
these stars in a completely different manner, and we see that,

591
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,320
for instance in divisions into thirty six. I think in

592
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,639
ancient Mesopotamias or deck science at some point at least

593
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,639
and I think in Egypt at some point it was

594
00:37:05,639 --> 00:37:09,280
into twenty four. So how we divide the constellations is

595
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,719
just our convention. So I don't know if you know,

596
00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:15,920
but I think it could be a timestam. But we

597
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:20,000
do not have evidence that they called such constellation Leo.

598
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,480
What I found that is connected to modern Zodec is,

599
00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:27,320
for instance, mythology of these such epochs as we are

600
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,840
talking about, because we're talking about the age of Leo,

601
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,320
and how because why these different kinds of Zodex? Why

602
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,239
different ages? How we can calculate that it is based

603
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,960
on the procession of the equinoxies, so a casual astronomical

604
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,840
phenomenon which is completely objective, and with empirical science who

605
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,199
can calculate everything. So it isn't like some kind of

606
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,440
conspiracy theory or just a fantasy of New Age people

607
00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:56,079
or something. Because just as our Earth is, according to

608
00:37:56,199 --> 00:37:59,679
at least our current model, rotating around the sound. It

609
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,719
is all also rotating around its own axis, but it

610
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,159
also has a third axis, which is the Great year

611
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,480
Platonic year, as ancient Greeks call that a ancient Egyptians

612
00:38:10,559 --> 00:38:14,400
of the late Egypt like Ptolemaic times, so basically Greeco

613
00:38:14,599 --> 00:38:18,719
Egyptians call that it is another axis. And just as

614
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,000
we know that our Earth is, you know, circling itself

615
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:26,199
in twenty four hours, this another axis, the third one,

616
00:38:26,199 --> 00:38:30,440
the precession of the equinoxs, lasts for twenty five thousand,

617
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,280
nine nine hundred and twenty years, so almost twenty six

618
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,440
thousand years. And what is interesting is that if we

619
00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:42,719
divide this kind of cycle into twelve zodecs sign it

620
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,880
will mean that each epoch is about two thousand, one

621
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,440
hundred and sixty years. It is how many years it lasts.

622
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,400
In my book, that's why Desia Vuka serving already been

623
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,920
because eighty percent is about lost civilizations, lots history. But

624
00:38:57,079 --> 00:39:01,679
this twenty percent is a twist of clickality cyclical history,

625
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,400
and at the end I provide examples of repeated history

626
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,599
during such cycles of time. So let's say during the

627
00:39:09,679 --> 00:39:13,679
age of Aries, and doing next the other age, other

628
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,880
zotical age, so the next two thousand, one hundred sixty years,

629
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,320
and it is very exact to which I will come

630
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,760
back in a moment, but that's how these ages work.

631
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,039
So each two one hundred sixty is a new again

632
00:39:27,079 --> 00:39:30,079
it is our convention, but a new Zeldack sign is

633
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,639
showing up on the horizon, especially during these spring equinox.

634
00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:37,800
So each two one hundred and sixty is another sign,

635
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:42,440
but it goes the other way round to like casual horoscope,

636
00:39:42,519 --> 00:39:46,199
purely signs of the zodiac. So let's say first there

637
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,119
is Starers, then there is Aries, then there is Spices,

638
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,079
then there's Aquarius, so it goes the other way round.

639
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,079
And I found, not like myself, but after also other

640
00:39:56,159 --> 00:40:00,440
researchers that myths from lots of places all over the

641
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:05,599
world seems to have these common signs of the zodiac

642
00:40:05,679 --> 00:40:08,760
and coded in them during different kinds of ages. So

643
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:13,840
first during let's say the early civilization, Harapamoenrodaro in the

644
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,280
Indus volley, so like three thousand BC, and even in

645
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,239
Egypt we had cold of the bull, so we can

646
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,559
say it was the age of Taurus and it fits

647
00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:25,360
that during such times it was an age of Taurus.

648
00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:30,159
Then we have the biblical like Abrahamic times, and we

649
00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:33,239
know we can date them approximately one thousand something years

650
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,599
BC very well, and we see that during these times

651
00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:40,760
it was a switch from ram from cows, so from

652
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:46,039
Taurus to the ares to like goats to sheep and

653
00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:48,920
stuff like that. And then the other way around would

654
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,519
be approximately during the times of Jesus or after his times,

655
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,119
with the main symbol of Christianity the Pisces. So we

656
00:40:57,199 --> 00:41:01,000
see this kind of route from the eag of Taurus

657
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:03,679
through the Age of Aris to the Age of Pieces.

658
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,320
And right now everyone is talking about the Age of Aquarius.

659
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,000
So I see that there are some ancient mentions about

660
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:16,000
similar zodic signs, but we probably never heard of Leo.

661
00:41:16,119 --> 00:41:19,239
And I was very extensively searching for it because I

662
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,079
also wanted, you know, to know that, Okay, if this

663
00:41:22,199 --> 00:41:26,599
is really Leo, then yes, these sphinx may be under

664
00:41:26,679 --> 00:41:29,360
their timestem, just as in the myths. Here we've got

665
00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:33,480
cold of the cows, then we've got the aries, and

666
00:41:33,519 --> 00:41:35,840
then we've got pices. But I haven't found it.

667
00:41:36,559 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: M we'll see. I wish I knew now because my

668
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,000
buddy Steve from the Big Bible podcast, we had done

669
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:46,119
a show. It's two or three years ago now it's

670
00:41:46,119 --> 00:41:49,599
been a minute, but he had found I can't remember

671
00:41:49,639 --> 00:41:54,519
what king's tomb it was or temple, but one of

672
00:41:54,559 --> 00:41:56,719
those ancient sides over there. He said that they had

673
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:02,159
found an ancient zodiac painted I can't remember. He said

674
00:42:02,159 --> 00:42:04,800
it was almost sick. Yes, I think he said it

675
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,599
started with Leo and that was like the oldest one

676
00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:08,360
they could find.

677
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:13,599
Speaker 1: Yes, but it isn't like exactly Leo Leo. And it's

678
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,679
also divided into twenty four z O dex sign. I

679
00:42:16,679 --> 00:42:20,000
don't remember. It's not Sakaran one. Yeah, I mentioned it

680
00:42:20,039 --> 00:42:22,960
a few times, but recently I was learning so much

681
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,719
that I forgot the name. It was actually took to diversity, Yeah,

682
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,480
in France by I don't remember which, Ludvig King, but

683
00:42:31,039 --> 00:42:34,320
he took it from Egypt. And you know it's right

684
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,199
now in France and it's late and.

685
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,599
Speaker 2: Wait, how I burned everything? You know, That's something I've

686
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,599
really been like with, you know, with me studying some

687
00:42:47,639 --> 00:42:50,360
stuff and getting into you know, like the library at

688
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:56,239
Alexandria down in Peru. You know I'm a Christian, yes,

689
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,480
but it's great and burns every damn thing in your

690
00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:02,920
kind of life. Like we are now having the discussions

691
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,840
wishing we knew, but we can't now because of their

692
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,079
actions back then.

693
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: Yes, but actually recently I found an example, for instance,

694
00:43:12,599 --> 00:43:16,840
that such burning of entire cities in Mesopotamia. I don't

695
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,199
remember exactly which kind of period led us to have

696
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:23,800
any kind of evidence for this period, because for many years,

697
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:29,239
imagine about ancient Mesopotamia, plenty of civilizations like Acadian submarine,

698
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,400
et cetera, we had almost no documents. We knew there

699
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,440
were some wars, but we had almost no sources literary

700
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,880
sources from this epoch. And then we found a cit

701
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,639
that was completely destroyed. It was burned down during some

702
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,159
kind of battle. And you know, in Mesopotamia they used

703
00:43:47,159 --> 00:43:52,000
clay tablets, and when you burn clay tablets they become hard,

704
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,440
very very hard. So we actually found that because of

705
00:43:56,599 --> 00:44:01,639
destruction of such a cit, these clay tablets God burned down,

706
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,239
and because of that we have plenty of texts from

707
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,880
this particular time period from this region that before we

708
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,440
almost had no evidence for any kind of events happening there.

709
00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:16,880
So sometimes burning things down may be beneficial to history.

710
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, even the the ancient contra what's the word I'm

711
00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:29,440
looking for, conservationist. You know, fire destruction brings things back

712
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:35,639
greener and newer sometimes. But uh, man with the pyramids specifically,

713
00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:38,519
you know, we have you know, stone circles, and we

714
00:44:38,639 --> 00:44:41,079
have pyramids, and we have you know, all kinds of

715
00:44:41,079 --> 00:44:44,679
different kinds of things mounds, but a lot of the

716
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:50,639
things that we find are you know, conical in shape

717
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:56,760
and uh. Doctor Michael Heiser, Derek Gilbert, people that I follow,

718
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:04,119
talks about how they believe that these were spiritual high places.

719
00:45:04,159 --> 00:45:08,719
You know, that the gods reigned from mountains, so these

720
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:14,360
were basically you know, cosmic geography or man made mountains

721
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,440
to get to that high place to reach their gods.

722
00:45:18,119 --> 00:45:20,599
And like we had mentioned, I thought it was fascinating

723
00:45:20,639 --> 00:45:25,039
that you find these on every single continent. There's plenty

724
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:28,280
of them, even in China, but they keep them hidden

725
00:45:28,519 --> 00:45:31,079
to this day because they want you know, they like

726
00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:33,719
their exclusivity, you know, I mean, they like being left

727
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,599
alone and not have foreigners come in on their property

728
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:41,039
and things like that. What's your opinion on that? Do

729
00:45:41,079 --> 00:45:46,639
you think that's that's where I'm looking for happenstance or

730
00:45:46,679 --> 00:45:48,480
do you think there's something to this, like they were

731
00:45:48,519 --> 00:45:51,920
traveling and sharing their knowledge and oh they got one

732
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,679
over here. We got to keep up with the Jones.

733
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,079
Is we got to have our own you know, high

734
00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:57,079
place over here.

735
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question. A few things that I

736
00:46:02,519 --> 00:46:05,280
thought of. I will start with if you wan't like

737
00:46:05,639 --> 00:46:09,000
try to de bank any kind of similarities between the pyramids,

738
00:46:09,039 --> 00:46:12,480
because in plenty of regions they look completely different. The

739
00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:17,760
Egyptian ones like are straight tops. The Mesoamerican ones are

740
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,599
you know, like a pyramid and a rectangular chapel at

741
00:46:22,679 --> 00:46:25,000
the top. In most cases or even in some cases

742
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,840
it isn't like a pyramid but a mound with a

743
00:46:29,079 --> 00:46:32,400
temple on top of that. But when it comes to

744
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,639
the pyramids, I think it's also if we want to

745
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,719
start with the bankings and stuff like that, the easiest

746
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,199
shape if we want to build up, because the tower

747
00:46:41,519 --> 00:46:44,920
is you know, very fragile building. It can collapse very easily.

748
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,920
So if we are let's say, truly imagine primitives, we

749
00:46:49,039 --> 00:46:51,840
can build mounds. It's easier to go to the tops.

750
00:46:52,119 --> 00:46:55,639
We can build let's say, the pyramids or the early pyramids,

751
00:46:55,639 --> 00:46:57,960
step pyramits and stuff like that. So I see it

752
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,960
as a logical evolution, a step towards building high staff

753
00:47:03,079 --> 00:47:07,039
because towers are very hard to build and to sustain

754
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:11,119
because they often can collapse. But it goes much further

755
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,119
beyond that. And last time, because I rewatched our last conversation,

756
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:20,000
I told you about the primed connection with the Mesoamerica, Egypt,

757
00:47:20,039 --> 00:47:23,679
and Atlantis, because according to Plato, in the middle of

758
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,440
Atlantis there was a hill, and on that hill there

759
00:47:26,519 --> 00:47:29,079
was a temple of Poseidon, and then of course the

760
00:47:29,159 --> 00:47:33,280
concentric rains of water and land. And ten Stitlan, the

761
00:47:33,519 --> 00:47:36,639
Aztec capital from the times of Conquistador, so a very

762
00:47:36,639 --> 00:47:40,880
recent one which they told that it was a model

763
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:46,239
of their previous land, Atsland, so Atlantis in Egypt and Greece,

764
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,679
and Atsland in Mesoamerica on the other side of the world.

765
00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:53,639
And Tenochtitland was on a huge lake Texcoco in Mexico,

766
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,840
and it was, you know, a natural island connected with

767
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:02,239
smaller natural and artificial islands, everything connected by bridges. And

768
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,440
at the middle of that there was a pyramid called

769
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,599
Templo mayorso the Grand Temple and we know how Mayan,

770
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,480
Aztec and other Mesoamerican pramit look like they are often

771
00:48:13,519 --> 00:48:17,280
even not pyramids, but a mound with such chapels on

772
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,840
top of that. And I think that it shows us

773
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:24,400
that this Aslan was Atlantis, and you know, this kind

774
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:29,039
of pyramid was a metaphor of this primeval hill with

775
00:48:29,199 --> 00:48:31,960
a temple of Poseidon on that. And in Egypt, it

776
00:48:32,119 --> 00:48:36,840
also has a cosmological meaning because according to the Egyptian cosmology,

777
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,000
how the world was created was that there was an

778
00:48:40,039 --> 00:48:44,840
infinite waters, infinite potential noon and the first thing that

779
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,000
appeared out of this infinity was the pyramid, was the

780
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,880
primeval mound. And most of the pyramids in Egypt were

781
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,679
actually models of this primeval mound. So we see here

782
00:48:55,719 --> 00:49:00,119
plenty of connections. Yeah, and I think it is these

783
00:49:00,639 --> 00:49:04,599
pyramids are not only in some cases, you know, some

784
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,880
smaller pyramids or some that are not very highly advancing

785
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,039
their construction. I think they were just natural buildings. Okay,

786
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,719
we want because as if said, we always want to

787
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,039
go up because you know, imagine again, let's say we

788
00:49:18,119 --> 00:49:21,440
were primitive, et cetera. Imagine being a primitive and looking

789
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,519
at the night sky, you know right now we have.

790
00:49:25,159 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: Poll I'm pretty primitive anyway, man, I don't have to

791
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:29,199
imagine too.

792
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. I also though, are you right now we

793
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,840
live in a place that there isn't much light pollution,

794
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,239
and it's a game changer. Like the sky if there

795
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,599
are no clouds, it's amazing. So imagine you wanted to

796
00:49:42,679 --> 00:49:45,039
go up the same with the Great Briant of Giza,

797
00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:47,920
the biggest one and the most famous one, for instance,

798
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:53,199
had shafts that pointed to Orion. And in Egyptian mythology,

799
00:49:53,199 --> 00:49:57,199
Orion was a kind of stargate, a place out of

800
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,599
the material world matrix, and Egyptians believe that part of

801
00:50:00,639 --> 00:50:03,559
their soul, because it wasn't that jazz we have sold,

802
00:50:03,559 --> 00:50:07,480
there was a but different parts of like metaphysical body,

803
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:11,199
just as you know modern esoteritists are telling there is

804
00:50:11,199 --> 00:50:14,719
like astral body, etheric body, or something like that. Egyptians

805
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:19,840
believed similarly, but Egyptian believed. Egyptians believe that this part

806
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,639
of the soul after we die goes straight to the

807
00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:27,800
Orion stars and through it it escapes the material world.

808
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:32,039
So it was like some kind of starget. Interestingly, some

809
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:35,119
of the Native Americans I don't remember exactly which tribes

810
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,440
also believed in that that our souls are going straight

811
00:50:39,559 --> 00:50:42,480
to the Orion belt. So maybe you know, this is

812
00:50:42,519 --> 00:50:45,519
the place where we exit when we die, or we

813
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,440
enter when we enter this world, who knows, But yes,

814
00:50:49,519 --> 00:50:52,639
it was for such purposes. I also think that the

815
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,639
Great pyramit with such you know, capabilities, with such you know,

816
00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:00,840
different kinds of resonance, because Premit is resonated with the Earth,

817
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,199
because it's modeled after at least half the Earth, because

818
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,840
you cannot have like full Earth because it was like

819
00:51:07,519 --> 00:51:11,519
double sided permit. You know, we couldn't build it easily.

820
00:51:11,639 --> 00:51:15,119
But I think it was maybe not for the dead

821
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,480
like journey of the soul after we die, but I

822
00:51:18,519 --> 00:51:21,360
think it was for some kind of initiation, just as

823
00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:24,679
in plenty of other ancient mystery school and modern even

824
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,920
I recently heard that School and Bones this like in

825
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,280
conspiracy theories. Is it's real, but in conspiracy theories it's

826
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:36,039
very famous organizations School and Bones. How they initiate people.

827
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,360
They have rituals and a coffin, so they put the

828
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,960
person who is going through the initiation into a coffin

829
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,719
and they close that and they do some rituals. And

830
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,119
I think that's why sarkofa guy in Egypt and the

831
00:51:49,159 --> 00:51:52,800
Egyptian pyramits were empty, because it was used for such purposes.

832
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,320
And we know over well that people where they are

833
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:01,199
deprived of any kind of light, food, they go our

834
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,880
brains are going crazy because brains don't know if we

835
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,119
are dead or no. And even a few years ago

836
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,079
it was very very popular. There were like these retreats

837
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:17,360
who enabled you to have such experiences in controlled manners.

838
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,320
So they put you in some kind of closed rooms

839
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,400
with no light at such a bad there was a

840
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,280
camera to see if you're still alive, so it would

841
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,159
be safe for you. So if you were dying or something,

842
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,599
they would help you. But I think such things as

843
00:52:32,639 --> 00:52:37,000
the permits were used for initiation. People say becoming gods.

844
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:41,000
There is one interpretation of the permits of totiqua Kan,

845
00:52:41,119 --> 00:52:45,800
this word totiqua kan meaning places where humans become gods

846
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,920
or became gods in the past, something like that. So

847
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:53,519
plenty of different threads. Maybe you can comment, and we

848
00:52:53,559 --> 00:52:56,320
can even continue because it goes much much deeper.

849
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I came here. If I read this somewhere,

850
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:03,599
probably did, but I heard someone say too that they

851
00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:07,800
thought that that whole complex, you know, the the Sphinx

852
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,599
and the pyramids and all that was like a an

853
00:53:11,679 --> 00:53:18,880
amusement park for enlightenment or initiations yea. And they had.

854
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: Like astrall traveling playground, like astral Traveling pegund. I think

855
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,280
it was Manley Palmer Hall, author of this great book

856
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,519
The Teaching The Secret Teachings of All Ages. I know

857
00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:34,639
if he exactly said what you said, but he similarly

858
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:40,639
thought about that. And recently guys from these underground Giza

859
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:45,400
radar penetration, like Filippo Beyond the Armando May they even

860
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,039
Joe Rogan Show talked about It was very funny to

861
00:53:49,039 --> 00:53:52,559
me because they said that again pyramids, that Egyptologists are

862
00:53:52,599 --> 00:53:55,039
to some extent right, but the premits were not for

863
00:53:55,159 --> 00:54:00,159
the dead bodies, but for alive bodies to undergo such processes.

864
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:04,519
So it's again dejavo eying over nothing new under the sun.

865
00:54:04,599 --> 00:54:09,199
These ideas are circulating throughout the ages. Ancient mystery schools

866
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:14,480
were using new death experience induced states to initiate people,

867
00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:18,000
and it was said that you know, if you experience

868
00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:20,960
new death experience, you are you have no fear of death,

869
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:25,119
and you are no longer materialists atheists, so you no

870
00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:28,119
longer doubt that there is much more than your body,

871
00:54:28,159 --> 00:54:30,880
that there is some kind of other world, and that's

872
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:31,719
how you change.

873
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 2: In church, Yeah, they lose the mysteries. They said, you know,

874
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,840
to learn to live, you must practice the yard of dying.

875
00:54:38,639 --> 00:54:40,840
And it kind of falls into the stuff I've been

876
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,519
studying for my book too, because I'm going into the

877
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,639
dragon court, you know, the ones that say that they

878
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,800
stem from the Ananachi and they have the divine right

879
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,079
to rule. They were made a sub human race and

880
00:54:53,119 --> 00:54:56,159
they talk about that, but they talk about the grail maidens,

881
00:54:56,519 --> 00:54:59,320
that it was a matriarchal society. The women made the

882
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:05,800
kings and it's through their their vaginal secretions and menstruation

883
00:55:06,039 --> 00:55:08,880
flow that that was the nectar of the gods, you know,

884
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,440
and that's what gave them forethought and their power and

885
00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:18,320
foresight to rule over the mud blood, so to speak. Uh,

886
00:55:18,639 --> 00:55:21,000
I'm trying to think Meli, you see, and all of

887
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:26,159
her stories, their allegories for this and that. The like Atlantis,

888
00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:28,639
you have a maze and in the center of the

889
00:55:28,639 --> 00:55:32,440
maze is this black cube stone where the waters of

890
00:55:32,519 --> 00:55:38,840
life flown and by drinking that you took the embrace

891
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,679
of the Maiden, which was death. But for the initiated,

892
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,119
the chosen were brought back to life. But so like

893
00:55:46,199 --> 00:55:48,320
in the New Age, thought the death of the ego

894
00:55:49,039 --> 00:55:53,719
and wescended into this new conscious state to be able

895
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,400
to rule over the people. And once I seen that,

896
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,719
I started seeing it throughout every culture. Man mythras, you know,

897
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,159
going to the caves and they go through these nine

898
00:56:05,199 --> 00:56:09,679
initiations and come out death, resurrection, and rise again. You

899
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,679
see the Masons practicing it in their things because there

900
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,039
it's something that's like you said, nothing new under the sun.

901
00:56:17,039 --> 00:56:19,519
It keeps getting repeated. So when this person, and it

902
00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:21,840
might have been that book there by Manley P. Hall,

903
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,280
because I listened to that on audiobook a while back,

904
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,719
but I remember them saying that they thought that this

905
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,280
mound or pyramid complex was the same thing, and that's

906
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,480
why you see all the water erosion. Yeah it might

907
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,320
have been by flood, but they thought that they had

908
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,679
all that stuff trenched out, and that's why they find

909
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,159
those buried boats in the middle of the desert, because

910
00:56:44,199 --> 00:56:47,000
they thought that they'd filled it with water. And just

911
00:56:47,159 --> 00:56:51,840
like in their death cult, basically like when they died,

912
00:56:52,159 --> 00:56:54,280
they got on this boat and they crossed the du

913
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:59,079
WoT the primorial waters, and had this encounter with you know,

914
00:56:59,199 --> 00:57:02,559
Osirah and the other gods, and they weigh the heart

915
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,079
you know, as a failure and all these different things.

916
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,960
So that whole mythos of their journey, they made this

917
00:57:09,559 --> 00:57:12,920
complex to physically do it before you die. It's like

918
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,199
a I don't know, maybe like a dress rehearsal for

919
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,119
the afterlife kind of. I thought that was fascinating to me.

920
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's epic things for so many great information haven't

921
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,920
thought of some of that. But what's interesting you mentioned

922
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,159
this going again through the river of Doua et cetera.

923
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:34,320
I found, for instance, the famous Greek one is Haron,

924
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,960
you know, the one person who let you travel through

925
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,480
you know, in the Greek underworld, and you put like

926
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:46,639
one coin under the tongue of the person, you know,

927
00:57:46,719 --> 00:57:50,920
the verst similar thing I found in NCI Mesopotamian legends

928
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,480
that also, you know, after you die, you need to

929
00:57:53,559 --> 00:57:57,480
pay this kind of boat man who will take the

930
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:02,599
death through such a river. So I think it may

931
00:58:02,639 --> 00:58:06,440
be something about just plenty of people who practice astro

932
00:58:06,639 --> 00:58:11,000
travel or who experience near the experience or outer states

933
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:16,079
of consciousness. They ever often tell you similar things no

934
00:58:16,159 --> 00:58:19,719
matter where they live, from, what backgrounds are, what they

935
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,000
believe in. So I think it might have like some

936
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:27,840
truth about the other side or something like that in

937
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:28,679
these stories.

938
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also too, like well with this research that

939
00:58:33,519 --> 00:58:35,280
I was doing, you know, they go all the way

940
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,639
back to the Ananachy and into Egypt, and they talk

941
00:58:38,679 --> 00:58:42,400
about the word Christ. You know, as Christians, we see

942
00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:45,360
that we think of Jesus Christ. But he was saying

943
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,320
that you know that means you know, Christos, it's an anointing.

944
00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:52,880
And he actually done some like etymology type work and

945
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:58,440
drew it back to Soback and he said that this

946
00:58:58,519 --> 00:59:01,320
is the whole dragon court that it goes back. You know,

947
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,400
you have the dragon imagery, the serpent imagery, but you

948
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,840
also have the crocodile imagery, so they're all kind of

949
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:14,480
serpentine reptilian type imagery. And they said that the original

950
00:59:14,599 --> 00:59:18,920
dragon court of Egypt was based upon Sobek. The half

951
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:24,199
man have crocodile and to anoint their kings, basically to

952
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:29,239
Christ them, they would kill a crocodile and take the

953
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:34,039
fat of the crocodile and use that to pour on

954
00:59:34,119 --> 00:59:38,719
their head or anoint their head to Christen the new ruler,

955
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,360
because they basically the way I understood it was, the

956
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:45,400
belief was is Sobec was the main man. So therefore

957
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,039
by putting, you know, pouring him on to someone else,

958
00:59:49,079 --> 00:59:53,199
that's kind of like an embodiment or empowerment of Sobek himself.

959
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,360
So with that whole death cult, you know, ascension, you know,

960
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,320
playing out the whole death thing in real life life

961
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,880
kind of makes some sense. But at the same time,

962
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,360
it's like, how came it's not a crocodile out there,

963
01:00:07,519 --> 01:00:10,880
you know, instead of a lion.

964
01:00:11,519 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very interesting. I never thought, like, never went

965
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,159
deep into that, but plenty of people see with this

966
01:00:19,239 --> 01:00:25,199
imagery of crocodile reptilian staff with christ Christos, the idea

967
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:31,599
of celebro spinal fluid going up hitting the reptilian brain again,

968
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,719
which you know, this part of nervous system with our

969
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,119
spine and these most primitive parts in our brain, like

970
01:00:38,119 --> 01:00:41,440
in the back of our heads, looks like a reptilian

971
01:00:41,639 --> 01:00:45,239
like a reptile exactly, and then I don't know whether

972
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,639
it shuts down this primitive brain or maybe going to

973
01:00:48,679 --> 01:00:51,079
pineal Gland. As some people suggest. There are plenty of

974
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:54,079
theories bad. You know, they explain that that's how you

975
01:00:54,679 --> 01:00:59,360
attain this enlightenment, christ like state or something like that,

976
01:01:01,559 --> 01:01:03,320
So there may be something bekind.

977
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,599
Speaker 2: Hey, you guys, it's no secret that every single day

978
01:01:08,119 --> 01:01:13,639
your dollar loses its value. If a man invested one

979
01:01:13,639 --> 01:01:17,920
thousand dollars in silver in the sixties, today, that same

980
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:22,280
one thousand dollars would have magically turned into almost thirty

981
01:01:22,679 --> 01:01:30,440
thousand dollars silver and gold only continues to increase in value.

982
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,880
If you have a four oh one K or money

983
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,719
setting in savings, that is just a number in a

984
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:41,280
computer system that is one MP or hack away from

985
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:45,719
being deleted forever. I have recently teamed up with Cornerstone

986
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,800
Assets and Metals and started investing in gold and silver myself,

987
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,519
and I highly encourage the listeners. If you have money

988
01:01:53,559 --> 01:01:58,280
in savings just sitting there invested in hard tangible assets,

989
01:01:59,039 --> 01:02:01,960
the same thing with your four one k's take a

990
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,400
twenty to thirty percent cut of that four on one k.

991
01:02:04,719 --> 01:02:08,920
That number in a computer system invests into hard tangible

992
01:02:09,199 --> 01:02:13,840
assets has proven to only increase in value. Be sure

993
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,880
to check out the link in the description or the

994
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,159
number on the screen, and be sure to tell them

995
01:02:18,159 --> 01:02:23,039
that Doc Brown from Prometheus Lynn sent you torches high guys.

996
01:02:23,719 --> 01:02:26,760
Oh yeah, And he was talking in his book to

997
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:31,320
Vor the Dragon legacy. You know, he basically just come

998
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,119
right out and called his family line and stuff a nephelom.

999
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:35,559
Speaker 1: You know.

1000
01:02:35,559 --> 01:02:37,679
Speaker 2: He said that they were a sub human race and

1001
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,400
given special gifts from the gods to be overlords of humanity.

1002
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:45,840
And he talked to kind of about that the pineal Gland,

1003
01:02:46,159 --> 01:02:49,599
and that he thought that the dragon courts were bigger.

1004
01:02:50,519 --> 01:02:51,960
And as I was reading that, I was like, was

1005
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:56,079
that explained the elongated heads the ruling classes, you know,

1006
01:02:56,159 --> 01:02:59,440
extra big pineal Gland. Maybe that's that elongated's goal that

1007
01:02:59,519 --> 01:03:03,599
we see in Egyptian iconography. And some people's even argue

1008
01:03:03,639 --> 01:03:08,519
that the long haaird dresses covered the elongated head, you know,

1009
01:03:08,559 --> 01:03:10,639
but there's some cases that you don't have to guess,

1010
01:03:10,719 --> 01:03:12,039
like near for tidy and.

1011
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: Not.

1012
01:03:14,599 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 2: Then, yes, they're all depicted without their head dress and

1013
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,440
they have these elongated serpentine kind of heads, and then

1014
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,039
they also have that snake coming out of it.

1015
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: Yes, they look like aliens, And you know, it's not

1016
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:32,119
just like let's say, one single random depiction of them

1017
01:03:32,159 --> 01:03:35,760
in that way. I've been to Berlin Museum like there's

1018
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,440
program and Nez Museum like they have all of the

1019
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,800
Egyptian stuff there just before the pandemic. Right now it's closed, unfortunately.

1020
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,159
But I've seen this in real life and it's not

1021
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,800
like a single one picture of them looking like aliens.

1022
01:03:50,159 --> 01:03:54,400
They their children look like aliens. Everyone has elongated skulls,

1023
01:03:54,920 --> 01:04:00,000
they're like limbs are exactly like aliens, so very slim

1024
01:04:00,079 --> 01:04:03,639
and like very long, et cetera. They look very very strange.

1025
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,880
They have like the strange body types. I don't see

1026
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:11,960
any kind of resemblance of that in nature. Maybe the

1027
01:04:12,039 --> 01:04:15,000
alien movie pre data or something like that, but you

1028
01:04:15,159 --> 01:04:18,800
don't see such things in nature on which they could

1029
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,719
you know, copy it and you know, create such a

1030
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,480
you know, look of them. And then you see free

1031
01:04:25,559 --> 01:04:29,400
these sculptures of them, not only like engravings, but sculptures

1032
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:33,719
of their heads, like entire family of Aknatin, because Anahanen

1033
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:37,239
was the father, the Nefertiti I think was his his

1034
01:04:37,559 --> 01:04:40,920
I think daughter or wife something like that, but there

1035
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:45,119
was an entire family of people exactly with the elongated

1036
01:04:45,159 --> 01:04:48,920
had you see them in three D and they you know,

1037
01:04:49,239 --> 01:04:53,239
you can imagine elongated head, you know, just elongated. But

1038
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:57,480
it was like so it was like a different species

1039
01:04:57,639 --> 01:05:00,519
of humanoid being. It was so I would say, ideal,

1040
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,599
like a different kind of species. You couldn't do that

1041
01:05:03,679 --> 01:05:07,800
with your own imagination, you know, just as depicting the ferry.

1042
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,400
And why would you depict Phario's family in such a way.

1043
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,960
These are the questions. So I was astonished when I've

1044
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:19,000
seen them, especially the free D like hats, like it's

1045
01:05:19,199 --> 01:05:21,679
I have somewhere I can send you on your email.

1046
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,360
I have photos from the musicism.

1047
01:05:24,519 --> 01:05:27,639
Speaker 2: It's because I think they got something to do with it, man,

1048
01:05:27,679 --> 01:05:30,159
Because I mean, I do I believe that that is

1049
01:05:30,199 --> 01:05:34,599
an ephylemic you know, stamp or guests you know, or

1050
01:05:34,679 --> 01:05:38,679
logo emblem, whatever you want to call it. Because everywhere

1051
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,320
you find these elongated heads. No, granted there are some

1052
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,320
that's from headbinding, but these are people trying to emanate

1053
01:05:44,519 --> 01:05:48,679
their ruling class, their gods, you know. Because there's some

1054
01:05:48,719 --> 01:05:51,840
of them that they found, which I got, I got

1055
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,039
a replica over here. That's one of the ones from

1056
01:05:54,039 --> 01:05:57,679
Peru that they've proven was not from headbinding. You know,

1057
01:05:57,679 --> 01:06:02,440
that the sadrat sutras missing the eyes are twenty five

1058
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:07,559
to thirty percent larger. Those little holes that you have

1059
01:06:08,119 --> 01:06:11,039
in your jaw and skull and stuff for the veins

1060
01:06:11,079 --> 01:06:13,440
and arteries to run through. They got an extra set

1061
01:06:13,519 --> 01:06:18,039
on the back for blood to form this elongated head,

1062
01:06:18,079 --> 01:06:20,400
you know. So it shows you that this was built

1063
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:24,320
into their DNA. And they've actually found fetuses baby still

1064
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:29,199
in the womb. Some Spanish explorers and stuff had found

1065
01:06:29,239 --> 01:06:33,000
and documented and drew in their journals and stuff, So

1066
01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:35,519
this is something that they're born with. But wherever you go,

1067
01:06:35,639 --> 01:06:38,639
you find these elongated skulls. Prue gets all the attention,

1068
01:06:38,719 --> 01:06:43,239
but you find them everywhere. But also everywhere you find

1069
01:06:43,239 --> 01:06:48,239
these elongated skulls, you find these pyramids. You find that

1070
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:55,039
all this megalithic architecture, Cyclopean architecture, they go in lockstep together,

1071
01:06:55,360 --> 01:07:00,239
because I do I think that these were Nephelom in

1072
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:04,679
a biblical tournament and they were the ones ruling over

1073
01:07:05,519 --> 01:07:08,639
the people and teaching them and civilizing them, showing them

1074
01:07:08,639 --> 01:07:12,039
all this technology and advanced stuff that the book Enoch

1075
01:07:12,079 --> 01:07:15,199
talks about, you know, the forbidden knowledge, Prometheus, you know

1076
01:07:15,239 --> 01:07:20,480
the fire, yeah, and kind there's too many things that

1077
01:07:20,519 --> 01:07:25,960
line up every single time to be coincidence in my opinion, Yes.

1078
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: I think similarly, and I am very often people are skeptical. No,

1079
01:07:30,159 --> 01:07:33,840
there were no giants, no other species. But right now

1080
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:38,079
it's common conventional scientific knowledge. We know very well that

1081
01:07:38,519 --> 01:07:41,840
we as anatomically modern humans. I think it was between

1082
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,880
eighty thousand to one hundred something thousand years ago, so

1083
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:47,880
not that long ago. You know, there are plenty of

1084
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:53,480
archaeological cultures fifty sixty thousand years ago, so anatomically modern humans,

1085
01:07:53,519 --> 01:07:56,800
our own species coexisted, just as in later times we

1086
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,639
coexisted with Nanderthals. We know that they were a different

1087
01:07:59,679 --> 01:08:03,239
species is but you know, we can interbreed together, et cetera.

1088
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,760
But at one point in our prehistoric times we coexisted

1089
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:10,559
with at least five other home in it species, and

1090
01:08:10,639 --> 01:08:13,920
I think three of them were just found recently in

1091
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,479
the last twenty years or so. So maybe at some

1092
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,399
point we'll find that we co existed with twenty or

1093
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:23,279
ten other species. And you know, from our modern perspective

1094
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:27,000
right now, we see ourselves as the only species. Like

1095
01:08:27,039 --> 01:08:29,840
of humans, there are different, of course, races. You know,

1096
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,640
it's maybe not good to talk about that, but we

1097
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:36,359
see ourselves, Homo sapiens sapiens, as the only one. But

1098
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:41,239
in the past there are plenty of different with similar capabilities,

1099
01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:46,760
distinguishable from just animals simultaneously living with us and with

1100
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:50,199
each other with different kinds of traits. For instance, we

1101
01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:54,279
coexisted during these times of coexistence with five other home

1102
01:08:54,319 --> 01:08:59,239
minutes with Homoflores senses and Homofloores senses, where they were

1103
01:08:59,319 --> 01:09:02,560
coined the term hobbits because they were one meter tall,

1104
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,520
even a little bit less, like up to one point

1105
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:09,199
one meter tall, so like almost half a human. And

1106
01:09:09,319 --> 01:09:12,920
we coexisted with such hobbits. So I always tell people

1107
01:09:13,159 --> 01:09:16,880
if we coexisted with small people, maybe we also coexisted

1108
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,880
with giants nepheline, however we want to call them, So

1109
01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:23,600
it's very possible the same. I was learning a lot

1110
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,159
recently because in the first semesters we were having prehistory

1111
01:09:27,199 --> 01:09:31,159
and archaeology as classes, and I've learned a lot about

1112
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,680
the different kind of home need species and how they

1113
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:38,960
were initially found. And for instance, with many of such

1114
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,760
home need species, we found only let's say free bodies,

1115
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,279
ten bodies all over the world, spread or in a

1116
01:09:44,399 --> 01:09:47,920
single region, and very often they were not full, so

1117
01:09:48,199 --> 01:09:51,199
you know, not plenty of things survived to our times.

1118
01:09:51,239 --> 01:09:53,720
Maybe there were plenty of more hominy species. Maybe there

1119
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,119
were plenty of more giants, not only the long jaded heads.

1120
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:01,399
So even within the scientific realm, there plenty of possibilities

1121
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:06,159
for nepheline, for giants, and maybe that's why they were

1122
01:10:06,359 --> 01:10:08,920
portrayed as that, and that's why we have all these

1123
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,880
elongated schools. And maybe also for instance, in Egypt, modern

1124
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:19,119
convention is because Farious, when in depicted like in battles

1125
01:10:19,239 --> 01:10:23,079
or with casual people, are much bigger than humans, and

1126
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:27,680
modern Egyptologists interpret that, Okay, we need to portray Phario

1127
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:31,720
as bigger because he's bigger in hierarchy, he's higher on

1128
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,880
the ladder of hierarchy. But who knows if okay, it's

1129
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,359
to some extent exaggerated because he's like free heights of

1130
01:10:39,399 --> 01:10:42,680
a human being serven more. But maybe they were really

1131
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,199
bigger than cash, some of them at least, because we

1132
01:10:45,279 --> 01:10:49,760
have somebodies of Farious. Some were even you know, very small,

1133
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:52,920
Some were like having no leg or one leg was

1134
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,880
shortened than the other. They were very often deformed because

1135
01:10:56,000 --> 01:11:00,399
of you know, having within the same family blood line

1136
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:04,840
and not having like people from outside of their bloodline

1137
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,760
to procreate. But maybe some of them were really giants

1138
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:10,199
if they were portrayed as that.

1139
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:15,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think too, Uh. Like when you get

1140
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:19,119
into the Bible, it talks about, you know, the great flood. Uh.

1141
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,560
They said the windows of heaven were opened, you know,

1142
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,319
but also the waters of the abyss burst forth.

1143
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:26,119
Speaker 1: Uh.

1144
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 2: And I'm the type of person I know there's a

1145
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,359
lot of people in my sphere that are straight literalists.

1146
01:11:31,359 --> 01:11:34,239
You know, when they talk about affirmment, you know that, No,

1147
01:11:34,359 --> 01:11:37,680
it's a glass dome. Uh. Some people, you know, Oh,

1148
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,560
they're talking about the ozone layer, you know, this chemical

1149
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:44,439
you know barrier or force field, uh, to block the

1150
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:48,560
radiation from the sun and this sort of things. But uh,

1151
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:52,560
I know one thing is like something changed. And we

1152
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:56,640
know from entropy that nothing gets better. It only decreases,

1153
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,479
you know, and gets worse and gets broken down over time.

1154
01:12:00,119 --> 01:12:05,119
So I think the DNA strand is is no different. Uh.

1155
01:12:05,199 --> 01:12:08,119
And like they've done experiments, They've put like different plants

1156
01:12:08,119 --> 01:12:11,479
and animals and like pressurized systems, you know, and condensed

1157
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,039
oxygen made it a lot more rich. And they grow

1158
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,319
a lot bigger, and they live longer, they're healthier. Some

1159
01:12:18,359 --> 01:12:21,920
people have even speculated that even if they were to

1160
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,720
take this DNA splicing, you know how they made the

1161
01:12:25,239 --> 01:12:27,119
dire wolf, you know, and all this other kind of

1162
01:12:27,159 --> 01:12:29,359
stuff and they're trying to do the wooly mammoth now,

1163
01:12:30,119 --> 01:12:33,039
that even if they did, you know, do some Jurassic

1164
01:12:33,079 --> 01:12:35,680
Park stuff and make some dinosaurs that they couldn't even

1165
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,239
breathe in our atmosphere today, that so you'd create it

1166
01:12:38,279 --> 01:12:41,680
for only die because it, you know, could we couldn't breathe.

1167
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,840
So I'm like, well, maybe that even with our science

1168
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,720
we can see, you know, in these types of system

1169
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:52,920
things things thrive and grow bigger, bigger, and live longer.

1170
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,600
Could that be the answer to the stuff in the

1171
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,239
Bible that a lot of non Christians laugh at when

1172
01:12:59,239 --> 01:13:01,760
they talk about, you know, people live in you know,

1173
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,800
five hundred years or more, and that giants were on

1174
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:10,079
the earth in those days and things like that. You know,

1175
01:13:11,119 --> 01:13:14,600
do you think that this Garden of Eden style atmosphere

1176
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:15,680
could have been possible?

1177
01:13:17,119 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 1: Yes? It maybe I don't remember right now the exact myths,

1178
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:24,640
but it was Emanuel Velikovsky, the famous heretic from like

1179
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:29,279
the Venus planet cataclysm that hit the Earth, who found

1180
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:33,319
such cataclysts and plenty of legends all over the world.

1181
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,960
He was of such a belief based on myths from

1182
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,840
all over the world, that there are in plenty of

1183
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:43,960
regions everywhere myths of such paradise, but on Earth, that

1184
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,279
there were plenty of good conditions, you know, even the

1185
01:13:47,279 --> 01:13:52,640
famous Golden Ages in India, in Greece, that there are

1186
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:56,119
even mentions that there was like no night, and this

1187
01:13:56,279 --> 01:14:00,239
kind of idea that there was always day was one

1188
01:14:00,319 --> 01:14:04,439
of the things that later people who believe that moon

1189
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:08,600
is artificial say that these myths show us that the

1190
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:12,279
moon was added later on. Maybe. So you know, these

1191
01:14:12,279 --> 01:14:14,680
are conspiracy theories, like on a bigger level. You know,

1192
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:17,279
we need to analyze them much more to say whether

1193
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:20,159
they're true true or not. But what I say that

1194
01:14:20,199 --> 01:14:24,039
there are allegedly I haven't found many myself myths that,

1195
01:14:24,119 --> 01:14:27,680
for instance, there were three hundred sixty days, and in

1196
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:29,800
Egypt it was a believe that there were initially three

1197
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:33,479
hundred sixty days, and then it was a completely different

1198
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:37,359
climate when there was just nowadays about three hundred sixty

1199
01:14:37,399 --> 01:14:39,680
five days in a year, et cetera. So I think

1200
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:43,880
it's possible. What I also wanted to note, I think

1201
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:47,359
I last time all that, or maybe on another podcast

1202
01:14:47,359 --> 01:14:51,119
I don't remember, but the same situation that after the flood,

1203
01:14:51,239 --> 01:14:54,159
the longevity of humans is capped in the Bible one

1204
01:14:54,239 --> 01:14:57,680
hundred twenty years, and before that, you know, nine hundred

1205
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,560
sixty nine years I think was the maximum to Shellah,

1206
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:04,000
and you know, everyone was living for a few hundred years.

1207
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:08,840
In the Mesopotamian, Sumerian, and Acadian epics, we find the

1208
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,640
same mention, you know, in plenty of them, like the

1209
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:16,479
famous epic of Petrajeses says that Eetrajeses was the last

1210
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,760
man from before the flood, and because he survived and

1211
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:23,319
the rest of humanity was aredicated during the flood, he

1212
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:27,479
was granted that, Okay, you can live forever, because before

1213
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:31,600
the flood, according to Mesopotamia, people lived almost forever, so

1214
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:35,640
they weren't capped genetically. When it comes to longevity, they

1215
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,680
could be killed. Let's say, okay, you are killed and

1216
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:42,800
you die, but when you wasn't aging, so you couldn't

1217
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:48,239
die from old age. And the Atrajeses utnapichtim whatever we

1218
01:15:48,319 --> 01:15:50,880
can call them depending on the translation and the version

1219
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,800
of this story was the last one of the immortals

1220
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:57,239
from before the flood, and for instance, the famous Gilgamesh

1221
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:02,079
as a powerful kinge who was afraid of death because

1222
01:16:02,119 --> 01:16:06,600
he found that his best friend died. And he said, wait,

1223
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:10,279
so this exists. You know, it's again another myth metaphor

1224
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,880
of a man who is so strong that you know,

1225
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,399
he fears death. But he was searching for this last

1226
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,520
month from before the flood in order to find the

1227
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:24,000
secret of immortality. But the same idea that the bunge.

1228
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 2: Of stuff that we were talking about earlier.

1229
01:16:27,119 --> 01:16:30,399
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, the hero's journey.

1230
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:36,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, but yeah, I just I found that stuff fascinating.

1231
01:16:36,119 --> 01:16:39,239
And even though I can't remember if I read this

1232
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:41,439
or heard it on another podcast, because you're like me,

1233
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:43,680
you know, we read so much and listen to so

1234
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:48,039
much stuff it kind of bleeds sometimes. But uh, basically,

1235
01:16:48,199 --> 01:16:52,560
like some of the stem cell research that they had done,

1236
01:16:53,319 --> 01:16:56,239
and they noticed, like you know, how our body rewrites

1237
01:16:56,319 --> 01:17:00,279
code and it's like a chain link and so the

1238
01:17:00,399 --> 01:17:03,800
chain when you get to the end, is your death. Basically,

1239
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:08,760
nothing is regenerating anymore. But once the video playhead gets

1240
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:10,920
near the end of that chain, here comes some worker

1241
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,159
bees and starts adding on to that track. That way,

1242
01:17:13,199 --> 01:17:15,600
it can keep going and it keeps regenerating and building

1243
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:20,159
upon itself. But as you get older, those stem cells

1244
01:17:20,279 --> 01:17:23,279
start to die and they don't reproduce anymore, and then

1245
01:17:23,399 --> 01:17:26,800
that's why the road suddenly gets cut off. The playhead

1246
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:28,760
has to run off and stop, and that's the end

1247
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:31,319
of your life. But they were doing all this research

1248
01:17:31,399 --> 01:17:36,680
and showing that by bringing in new stem cells and

1249
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:42,560
introducing it, you're basically tricking the body to keep those

1250
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:45,520
alive and those worker bees to keep adding to that track,

1251
01:17:46,279 --> 01:17:49,760
you know. So they were saying that if they could

1252
01:17:50,119 --> 01:17:54,119
fix that, then therefore people could live forever or you know,

1253
01:17:54,239 --> 01:17:59,159
exponentially longer because your body's not getting that kill switch,

1254
01:17:59,199 --> 01:18:01,840
you know, telling that thing to shut off basically, and

1255
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:03,920
kind of like at the flood when God put that

1256
01:18:04,119 --> 01:18:07,319
in the play, you know, you know, my soul not

1257
01:18:08,079 --> 01:18:10,640
you know, abide with man forever, but with one hundred

1258
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:12,319
and twenty years kind of like that's when you kind

1259
01:18:12,359 --> 01:18:15,239
of put that into the coding and man's trying to

1260
01:18:16,239 --> 01:18:18,279
play God and keep those sales going.

1261
01:18:18,399 --> 01:18:18,560
Speaker 3: You know.

1262
01:18:20,119 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the stem cell part. But I think

1263
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:26,880
the most important for longevity is within our DNA teleomers,

1264
01:18:27,079 --> 01:18:32,279
because teleomers, as you've mentioned, stem celves, and if there

1265
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:35,560
wasn't any kind of DNA cup and there is, we

1266
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,960
would be like old old. We wouldn't have like more

1267
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:42,960
new cells. So we will be old, let's say, just

1268
01:18:43,039 --> 01:18:47,079
as ninety sixty years old, but you will still live,

1269
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:52,720
you know, until you're let's say internals organs are working.

1270
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:56,920
But there's also a cue switch, you know, yeah, but

1271
01:18:57,119 --> 01:19:00,199
you will be let's say three hundred years old, old man,

1272
01:19:00,319 --> 01:19:02,439
but three hundred and six hundred. But there is also

1273
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:06,800
a cap in genes, and it's called telomeres, which are

1274
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:11,319
the endings of the gene chains, and with age they

1275
01:19:11,359 --> 01:19:12,960
are getting backward.

1276
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 4: Maybe.

1277
01:19:15,039 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 1: But there is also thing about stem cells, which are

1278
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:21,800
regenerating things. But you know, the tilamers are basically you know,

1279
01:19:22,079 --> 01:19:26,000
each kind of cycle the DNA is replicating, and we

1280
01:19:26,159 --> 01:19:29,920
know that if it replicates not correctly, we have, for instance,

1281
01:19:30,039 --> 01:19:32,600
cancer cells. And when we are young, you know, we

1282
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:36,800
have enough immun sistem power to destroy them immediately, and

1283
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:40,119
if not, they become of course cancer in some people,

1284
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:44,239
and the same thing happens with the tilomers. If your

1285
01:19:44,359 --> 01:19:47,560
tilomers are you know, too short, because let's say this

1286
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:50,439
is the potential ending of the tilamers which help you

1287
01:19:51,199 --> 01:19:54,680
correctly replicate the DNA, it goes shorter, shorter, shorter, and

1288
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:56,720
at the end of your life it's so short that

1289
01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:00,520
you know, you cannot replicate anymore. So maybe you were

1290
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,399
pointing to that too. And we know for a well

1291
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:06,840
that for instance, some kind of natural compounds, some kind

1292
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:10,960
of antioxidants can help you lengthen the tillomers, like good

1293
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:15,159
living style can also lengthen them. Meditation and stuff like

1294
01:20:15,239 --> 01:20:17,720
that was also proven to you know, length and then

1295
01:20:18,119 --> 01:20:21,119
and maybe there are also some kind of compounds still

1296
01:20:21,239 --> 01:20:24,720
not discovered that may help you, you know, keep them,

1297
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:28,640
maybe not make them longer, but just keep them. And

1298
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:32,439
right now there's this bio hockey movement, you know, longevity movement.

1299
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:38,199
You know, I think Brian Johnson, who you know, got

1300
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,840
the blood from his son or something, you know, he

1301
01:20:42,039 --> 01:20:45,479
says that for sure, very soon will live to two

1302
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,880
hundred years at least. So right now there is such

1303
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,880
a movement even among the scientists who believe that we

1304
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:54,159
will be able to live at least two hundred three

1305
01:20:54,239 --> 01:20:57,800
hundred years because we can like enable the telemers not

1306
01:20:58,039 --> 01:21:02,000
to be shorter. So maybe that's because the same with

1307
01:21:02,119 --> 01:21:05,720
the creation of mankind. We say, all creation of mankind,

1308
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:09,279
all we evolve from home minutes. But I dug deeper

1309
01:21:09,359 --> 01:21:12,920
into how we evolved let's say, potentially from home minutes

1310
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:17,119
before us. It was due to a completely random fusion

1311
01:21:17,199 --> 01:21:21,239
of chromosomes. And we know very well that when such

1312
01:21:21,319 --> 01:21:25,880
a fusion would happen nowadays, it causes, for instance, down

1313
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:29,279
syndrome if there is too little or too many chromosomes

1314
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:33,520
in our DNA. But this random about two hundred thousands

1315
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,439
or maybe more years ago. Fusion of chromosomes let's say,

1316
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:40,000
in a home minute species before us, lead not to

1317
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:45,640
the bad outcome, but to us having like bigger prefrontal cortex,

1318
01:21:46,239 --> 01:21:52,800
being able to have higher advanced emotions like compassion, unconditional love,

1319
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:56,520
stuff like that. And we know overwell because other ape

1320
01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:00,720
species similar to us, like chimpanzees, and also probably other

1321
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:05,720
hominy species before, had one part of chromosomes more and

1322
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:08,239
right now we have twenty three person before it was

1323
01:22:08,319 --> 01:22:12,720
probably twenty four. So such randomness, maybe you know, a

1324
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:15,960
hunt of God into that inte creation of mankind who

1325
01:22:16,079 --> 01:22:20,600
knows or as some people suggest, anunaki or nephiline, you know,

1326
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:25,520
creating humans out of pre existing hominids, because for instance,

1327
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:29,159
from Mesopotamian sources, they did that later on when humans

1328
01:22:29,159 --> 01:22:32,920
were already there. Therefore, instance, created a primitive man called

1329
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,840
and Kido, who was like an ape but intelligent. So

1330
01:22:37,279 --> 01:22:40,640
I think the same story with you know, manipulating to

1331
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:45,680
some extent existing ape species, hominid species, integrating the man.

1332
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,920
But no, it goes much different than that.

1333
01:22:50,399 --> 01:22:53,319
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and there's some Christians that get tore up

1334
01:22:53,399 --> 01:22:57,760
even just using that word evolution. But I think a

1335
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:01,640
lot of times it's like our what am I looking

1336
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:06,359
at here? Definition of words is usually the dividing point

1337
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:12,039
and or misunderstanding of even scripture. I mean, because, like

1338
01:23:12,199 --> 01:23:15,159
me older, I get and I read. I think there

1339
01:23:15,239 --> 01:23:19,239
was two creations of mankind in Genesis. Now, because before

1340
01:23:19,239 --> 01:23:21,560
I was telling, you know, oh, God made Adam and Eve.

1341
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:24,720
You know, it said let us make man in our image,

1342
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:30,279
but it says male and female. He created them, and

1343
01:23:30,359 --> 01:23:32,840
that was Day six, and then later on you get

1344
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:34,680
the story of Adam and Eve. When I was always taught,

1345
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,680
oh that's just you know, a retelling of that story,

1346
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:41,439
but in more detail. But the problem is is, when

1347
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:45,199
you reread that carefully, it says that he when he

1348
01:23:45,359 --> 01:23:47,840
makes Adam, not even Eve, just when he makes Adam.

1349
01:23:48,239 --> 01:23:50,800
It says that he pinched from the clay, you know,

1350
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,279
and all that stuff. But it says that this was

1351
01:23:53,359 --> 01:23:59,600
before there was any vegetation on the ground. So I

1352
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:01,720
tell people, I said, I think Adam was part of

1353
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:06,439
that us in our and the Day six were created

1354
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:09,439
put in earth, and Adam was kind of like the

1355
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,319
special project, maybe the overseer, if you want to look

1356
01:24:12,359 --> 01:24:15,000
at it, in that kind of youth. But then at

1357
01:24:15,039 --> 01:24:18,199
his downfall was basically kicked out of the palace and

1358
01:24:18,319 --> 01:24:21,840
put into the general population of the Day six people.

1359
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,520
And it could have been through Adam's you know, perfect

1360
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:29,359
genome interbreeding with the Day six people that kind of

1361
01:24:29,399 --> 01:24:33,880
made that, you know, evolution or next upgrade. And then

1362
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,359
of course here comes the fallen angels throwing in their

1363
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,119
DNA and stuff into it too, and there's where you

1364
01:24:40,199 --> 01:24:44,319
get the Nephelene. But like we talked about the beginning

1365
01:24:44,319 --> 01:24:48,239
of the show, man, if we are honest, we can

1366
01:24:49,399 --> 01:24:53,119
not speaking absolutes on just about anything. I mean, as

1367
01:24:53,159 --> 01:24:56,640
a Christian. Yeah, the absolute you got it is is

1368
01:24:56,800 --> 01:25:00,399
Christ you know, But that's about the only absolute we

1369
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:02,600
really got if we're being honest. A lot of it

1370
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:06,680
is speculation and guesses, and some are educated guesses. But

1371
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:12,800
I'm a firm believer. We have a little more questions

1372
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,000
than we have answers, and we need to be open

1373
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,239
and humble enough to say we don't have those answers.

1374
01:25:18,319 --> 01:25:21,720
That way, when they do come along, we're not so

1375
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,680
stubborn and stiff nick thinking we got it all, figured

1376
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:25,880
it out, and ignore the truth.

1377
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 1: Yes, that's a great point, but that was very awesome

1378
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,279
what you said. I had never thought of these like

1379
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,079
two kinds of quation of men in the Bible. But

1380
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,359
what I thought when you were speaking about that is

1381
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:44,479
creation in other mythologies, because for instance, the Mayans thought

1382
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:48,920
that the gods first created people from different previous material

1383
01:25:49,159 --> 01:25:52,800
like wood, like iron, et cetera, but none of these

1384
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:56,760
humans were perfect, and then finally they created humans out

1385
01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:01,720
of clay. So that's just adumu ad aidam is from

1386
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:05,439
the word clay before Sumerian, and we know that, for instance,

1387
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:09,159
from the Sumerian and ancient Mesopotamian sources. They also believe

1388
01:26:09,199 --> 01:26:13,720
that the like men like we nowadays were created from clay.

1389
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,439
So as you've said that before, maybe they were like

1390
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:19,439
worse humans and item was the best. So the same

1391
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:22,880
as in Mayan version that these humans were bad from

1392
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:26,000
this material, these were also bad and then finally from clay,

1393
01:26:26,359 --> 01:26:29,039
just as in Mesopotamia, just as similar to the Bible,

1394
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:33,760
this was, you know, the final project, similarly to that

1395
01:26:34,079 --> 01:26:38,760
in Epjeses. First, gods because they want to create slaves

1396
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,760
for themselves who will work for them. First they create

1397
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:46,359
EGGI are not enough. Then they create humans. Humans are

1398
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,680
also bad because okay, they are all right bad. They

1399
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:54,560
are making very quickly overpopulation. They are very loud, and

1400
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:58,279
gods want to get rid of them because in Epses

1401
01:26:58,319 --> 01:27:00,720
they say there are too many humans are too loud,

1402
01:27:01,119 --> 01:27:04,560
they are annoying the gods, so that's why they send

1403
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:07,720
the flood. And Atrojasis is the only person who is

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saved from the flood because one of the gods, an Key,

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rebels and tell Cetrojeses that there will be flat you

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need to build the boat and save humanity, and then

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Etrojses is the only human allowed to live forever. And

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next humans are living very short time spans. But before

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the flood, there is mentioned that these evil elites gods.

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I always mentioned that it's like the first New World

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Order idea, because they send pandemic, they said, they sent wars,

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they said famines, et cetera. But humans still survive. And

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the epic of Trojeses is I think very funny at

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the same time, but at the same time, very deep

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about these descriptions because they mentioned, you know, even details

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about you know, there was famine, people were very you know, hungris.

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So let's say father ate the daughter, or like a

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neighbor at eight another neighbors. So there are very interesting

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descriptions and very detailed ones about what happens, which shows

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resilience of humanity, just as we can con for them

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to rats. You know, we want to eradicate the rats,

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but they are still the you know, on the negative

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side of you. But I see parallels to these stories

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with what you said.

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Speaker 2: I love these conversations, and I know you're a real

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01:28:24,319 --> 01:28:26,880
busy guy. We booked this about a month or two

1427
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,000
ago because you had so much stuff going on. But

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01:28:29,119 --> 01:28:31,560
man if and when you get more time, I'd love

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01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,039
to have you back. And have some more conversations because

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01:28:35,399 --> 01:28:38,319
we both like to read and research, and I always

1431
01:28:38,399 --> 01:28:40,319
learn something new every time I talk with you, man,

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so I thoroughly enjoy it.

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01:28:43,399 --> 01:28:47,399
Speaker 1: Yes, and also today even you taught me so many

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things that you know, I'm really grateful for. And right now,

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you know, maybe I'm rambling a little bit at the end,

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01:28:53,279 --> 01:28:56,079
but I'm thinking about, you know, all the connections of

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what you said with what I've learned, with what is

1438
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:02,359
the possibility is? Well, thanks for having me on another

1439
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:04,000
epic conversation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Man, I appreciate you time. That's Lafe's most valuable,

1441
01:29:09,279 --> 01:29:11,239
I said, I tell people often. I mean, you can

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01:29:11,279 --> 01:29:13,760
get more money, you can get more women, more friends,

1443
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,000
more everything, but you can't get more time. So I

1444
01:29:16,039 --> 01:29:19,640
appreciate you sharing your time with me. Man. Before we leave, though,

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01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,479
just in case somebody wasn't paying attention, Man doing laundry,

1446
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:25,600
whooping some kids? Who knows what? Man, Let everybody know

1447
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:27,279
where they can find you and your material. If they

1448
01:29:27,359 --> 01:29:28,600
want to find out more bad.

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Speaker 1: Just copy and pace my name and surname, Alexander Tshkevich.

1450
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:37,279
You can find me on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, on plenty

1451
01:29:37,319 --> 01:29:41,279
of other episodes on other podcasts and the previous episode

1452
01:29:41,359 --> 01:29:43,960
of course on your show too. And my book is

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01:29:44,079 --> 01:29:47,520
Desia Who Has Everything Already Been? And you can find

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01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:50,079
it on Amazon again. Just copy and past my name

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and surname or the title of the book into Amazon US, Canada,

1456
01:29:54,199 --> 01:29:57,680
Australia you can and plenty of more amazons you can

1457
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,279
get the book. There are tones all the things that

1458
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:04,199
we talked about today, not only history and cyclical time,

1459
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:07,640
but also you know, examples of cyclical history and this

1460
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:11,560
DNA stuff that I talked about, how humans were created,

1461
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:17,640
diffusion of chromosomes. So like a very interdisciplinary attempt to

1462
01:30:18,039 --> 01:30:21,960
find the lost history, but again with no one single answer,

1463
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:25,479
just you know, trying to find what is true. But

1464
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:28,800
I don't claim, of course that I found everything. Thanks

1465
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:30,000
again for having.

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01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:30,079
Speaker 3: Me on.

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01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:34,520
Speaker 2: Now, man, I appreciate you. Brother. Hey, guys, if you

1468
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:37,840
enjoy this conversation and these types of conversations, man, this

1469
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,800
conversation should show you that this man's full of them,

1470
01:30:42,279 --> 01:30:44,279
So be sure to check out his book, contribute to

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his work, check out his channel, and show him some love.

1472
01:30:47,159 --> 01:30:49,039
And man, I look forward to having you back. Brother,

1473
01:30:49,119 --> 01:30:54,000
Thank you so much. Well, guys, like I said, don't

1474
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,279
be a jerk. Don't be a jackass. As I like

1475
01:30:56,399 --> 01:30:58,520
to say, hit the like button, show some love to

1476
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:01,199
our guests. Go check him out, guys, and hey, just remember, hey,

1477
01:31:01,319 --> 01:31:05,239
the difference between the known and the unknown that, my friends,

1478
01:31:05,359 --> 01:31:12,079
is the journey. So good journey, guys, not srue.

1479
01:31:12,399 --> 01:31:13,159
Speaker 3: Not soray.

1480
01:31:14,079 --> 01:31:19,359
Speaker 4: Just to see through smoking mirs and call beas my name.

1481
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:24,800
They say, the truth will cost you, friends, Confide me somebody,

1482
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:30,640
the Samy who has a softer face, swim fires.

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Speaker 3: Let us be