Speaker 1: It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on
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Speaker 2: I just checked during the break there to see if
Speaker 2: if I'm still locked out suspended from FanDuel.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and I am still are I got lifted today.
Speaker 3: They lifted me today.
Speaker 2: Did they give you any kind of a notice or
Speaker 2: did you just log in and it worked?
Speaker 4: They gave me. Yeah, they gave they sent me a
Speaker 4: notice and said.
Speaker 5: Like an email.
Speaker 3: I guess it was a very long email saying something
Speaker 3: like there was a suspicious activity on my account. Make
Speaker 3: sure no one is logging into your account or using
Speaker 3: your account. Make sure every make sure that every deposit
Speaker 3: is coming is going into this has the same name
Speaker 3: as the account that you're depositing from, into the account
Speaker 3: that you're depositing to, which, however, I did. I feel
Speaker 3: like I have a reason to believe why. I think
Speaker 3: that that may have happened. A couple months ago. I
Speaker 3: got a friend to sign up, and you know, I
Speaker 3: kind of cheated the system, if you may, by getting
Speaker 3: them to sign up, and I use their bonus bets,
Speaker 3: and I just said, hey, let me log into your
Speaker 3: account and let me.
Speaker 5: Do it, So that's why they flagged you, right.
Speaker 3: I think what happened was is and I don't even
Speaker 3: know why they let me do it anyway. Is once again,
Speaker 3: it sounds like a them problem. I thought at this point,
Speaker 3: because I ran out of his bonus money. I thought
Speaker 3: that I was logged into my account and I had
Speaker 3: put in like ten dollars or something like that. And
Speaker 3: then once again I wasn't even looking at the account.
Speaker 3: And then my buddy text me about ten minutes later saying, hey,
Speaker 3: I thought everything was done. It's just saying it just
Speaker 3: made a deposit into my account, and I'm like, that
Speaker 3: sounds weird.
Speaker 4: So in a weird way they were.
Speaker 3: They allowed me to deposit something from my bank account
Speaker 3: into his. I mean, it's still worked, I still got
Speaker 3: the bed on it. But after that, I guess that's.
Speaker 2: Like, but that at least makes sense as to why
Speaker 2: they would, why they would flag it and at least
Speaker 2: want to look at it. Yes, I still don't understand
Speaker 2: why being in Tennessee and then leaving Tennessee and going
Speaker 2: to Kentucky and logging in that automatically.
Speaker 3: It's the most simple thing ever. There shouldn't even be
Speaker 3: a discrepancy in that. Yeah, I mean, you're just traveling.
Speaker 3: And here's the thing.
Speaker 2: I believe that they agree and know that, but they're
Speaker 2: just they again that My whole complaint is that they
Speaker 2: don't have the resources to efficiently run this operation for customers.
Speaker 5: But yet you know they'll they'll have I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure there are many people in the
Speaker 2: same situation that I'm in. What I'm trying to say
Speaker 2: is like they would there would never be a scenario
Speaker 2: where I'm trying to give them money and they won't
Speaker 2: let me right like there. But whenever I have money
Speaker 2: in there, you know they're gonna take their sweet ass
Speaker 2: time to figure out what's going on. And it's it's
Speaker 2: I know I'm selling such a boomer here, but it's
Speaker 2: it's the bots they get me because oh yeah, you
Speaker 2: can't even say I can't even explain what I what
Speaker 2: I need them to do. It's really just to look
Speaker 2: at what I submitted, and it just keeps going through
Speaker 2: this cycle of them kind of asking and I'm sure
Speaker 2: this is just how it's like because they need to
Speaker 2: buy as much time as possible because they don't have
Speaker 2: the resources to quickly look over this stuff and get
Speaker 2: people back in business to where they can bet. So
Speaker 2: it's just set up to where they'll ask you kind
Speaker 2: of the same stuff over like three different emails that
Speaker 2: span an entire week, and it just drives me insane.
Speaker 2: And somebody yesterday mentioned, well you should, you should just
Speaker 2: sign up for a new account. You can't do that
Speaker 2: because you got to enter your social the last four
Speaker 2: of your social and all that stuff. So you know,
Speaker 2: I'm still betting. I mean, I'm using DraftKings, which is fine,
Speaker 2: but you know, a big part for me because I'm
Speaker 2: not doing this to make a living. I'm not doing this,
Speaker 2: you know, for anything other than just to have fun.
Speaker 2: But it is always nice to you know, win money.
Speaker 2: So looking at like what I'm working with when it
Speaker 2: comes to like the account, it's not like I'm looking
Speaker 2: at some crazy amount of money, but like that is
Speaker 2: a big factor and sort of you know the ride, right,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm deciding to do, how much money
Speaker 2: I'm going to bet on this and that? And I'll
Speaker 2: look at what's there and then all, okay, not a.
Speaker 5: Good week, Nick.
Speaker 2: Maybe we toned it back a little bit, smaller unit
Speaker 2: sized or maybe less wagers whatever it may be. And
Speaker 2: because I can't even act says, you know the account
Speaker 2: that's been active and I've been using for forever. You know,
Speaker 2: it just it's gotta be frustrated. And I don't My
Speaker 2: stepdad went through the same thing, but he went through
Speaker 2: it with DraftKings, and I mean, I'm now going through
Speaker 2: what he was telling me about for a law. I
Speaker 2: mean I'm talking like he didn't get I don't even
Speaker 2: I think he got back in finally, but I think
Speaker 2: it was like five months. She like what now, his
Speaker 2: his was a little bit different because his venmo got hacked,
Speaker 2: like look like not just but in his venmo was
Speaker 2: and his venmo was attached to DraftKings, so they did
Speaker 2: see like the weird stuff going on.
Speaker 5: But it was the same thing that he would like.
Speaker 2: It's it's they're all the same as far as I think,
Speaker 2: dealing with this and trying to, I guess get people
Speaker 2: back in business as quickly as possible. But like the
Speaker 2: process just isn't great because he kept having to send in,
Speaker 2: you know, pictures of his again, like I had to
Speaker 2: take a picture of myself.
Speaker 5: Holding the date.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's you know, crazy, And.
Speaker 2: That was Sunday and now it's Thursday and I'm still
Speaker 2: locked out, and it just makes me very upset. But
Speaker 2: whenever they notified you that you're good, was it a
Speaker 2: text or an email?
Speaker 4: What it was an email? That it wasn't I had
Speaker 4: to find it in my junk folder.
Speaker 5: Okay, maybe I need to look at that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, go do that.
Speaker 2: I need to check that because I need I check
Speaker 2: your junk. I need back, I need back in business.
Speaker 2: I'll check my junk. Don't want you worry about that,
Speaker 2: young man. All right, it's coffee and Company. We are
Speaker 2: feel But Thorton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Thanks
Speaker 2: for hanging out with us, taking you up until six
Speaker 2: o'clock today. The news yesterday, I think it broke like
Speaker 2: right after the show, or maybe it did towards the
Speaker 2: end of the show and I just missed it. But
Speaker 2: Pierce Clarkson, uh, probably one of the higher ranked quarterbacks
Speaker 2: to ever commit to Louisville, did in fact decide to
Speaker 2: into the transfer portal. I don't think it's a surprise
Speaker 2: by any means. I wish the kid nothing but the best,
Speaker 2: and I don't think anybody did anything wrong. I don't
Speaker 2: really have any energy one way or the other. I'm
Speaker 2: not at all like oh bummed, Like man, pe Look,
Speaker 2: if you are somebody that's upset that he's leaving because
Speaker 2: you like him, that that's normal. But I mean, who
Speaker 2: you upset at him? Well you should be upset him.
Speaker 2: He upset at Jeff brom What could he have done
Speaker 2: to change this? Like, I mean, I just truly think
Speaker 2: this is a this is a good example of this
Speaker 2: new world. I mean, you know, just just two of
Speaker 2: the things that came in on the text line yesterday
Speaker 2: from from you know those that because some people still
Speaker 2: text the text line even more not on the air,
Speaker 2: uh And occasionally I'll.
Speaker 5: Go back and forth with him. But one person mentioned how.
Speaker 2: Best of luck kid never got a fair shot, and
Speaker 2: then somebody said something along the lines of I really
Speaker 2: hope Jeff knows what he's doing here, and I don't, like,
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to respond to that, because
Speaker 2: the kid never got a fair shot, Like what would
Speaker 2: be like what you mean like he's not I mean,
Speaker 2: I just think this is a product of what you
Speaker 2: can now do as a college football coach. And again,
Speaker 2: I know I sound like a broken record, but if
Speaker 2: you don't have to name a starting quarterback and rely
Speaker 2: on a guy that you've never seen play as a
Speaker 2: starter before, has very very you know, very little to
Speaker 2: no experience, not because they're not good, not because you
Speaker 2: know anybody's fault. It's just like it's a new world now.
Speaker 2: So what was unfair about Pierce's situation? I mean, he
Speaker 2: got here last year and one thing that I should
Speaker 2: mention that I think it's pretty obvious, but he doesn't
Speaker 2: fit with what Jeff wants to do. Like it could work,
Speaker 2: but like when you think of Jeff Brohm's offense really excelling,
Speaker 2: you think of a certain kind of quarterback and it's
Speaker 2: more of a guy that is that is a pocket
Speaker 2: guy that has a little bit more size to him.
Speaker 2: And who knows, maybe Pierce ends up lighting it up
Speaker 2: and he's a phenomenal quarterback.
Speaker 5: At wherever he ends up. But if he does, it
Speaker 5: won't be anybody's fault.
Speaker 2: It won't because right now, if he decided nope, not
Speaker 2: going to go to the portal, going to hand the
Speaker 2: reins to Pierce Clarkson, fans would would say, okay, well
Speaker 2: let's you know, what are you gonna do? You're gonna
Speaker 2: support it, But like you would know that it's just
Speaker 2: a risk and it may pay off, but it's a
Speaker 2: risk that you don't have to take whenever you can
Speaker 2: go to the portal and grab a guy who you
Speaker 2: know is as good as Miller Moss. So it's not
Speaker 2: about what's fair and what's not. I mean, like, what
Speaker 2: do you would what would like? Did you want him
Speaker 2: to not play Tyler Shuck this year? Tyler Shuck's one
Speaker 2: of the best quarterbacks you've had around here in a
Speaker 2: long time. I think it's easy to I think it's
Speaker 2: it's very obvious. He's the best quarterback we've had since
Speaker 2: since Lamar. I mean, he was really good. But did
Speaker 2: you want him to play?
Speaker 5: Both guys?
Speaker 2: Like it makes no sense? And last year is a
Speaker 2: true freshman, did you want him to play? I mean,
Speaker 2: I know Plumber wasn't great, but like last year is
Speaker 2: pretty telling. If if Jeff Brown thought that that that
Speaker 2: Pierce was capable of as a true freshman, if he
Speaker 2: was capable of doing what Jeff needs his quarterback to do,
Speaker 2: lead his offense and all that comes with it. You
Speaker 2: think if he thought he was ready for that responsibility
Speaker 2: and it would make the team better, he would have
Speaker 2: played him and most coaches wouldn't have because regardless if
Speaker 2: you got Jack Plumber or not, because true freshman starting
Speaker 2: at power schools is just going to be really really
Speaker 2: really rare moving forward. So it's not that, you know,
Speaker 2: it's not that anybody did anything unfair. And also if
Speaker 2: there's anything unfair, it's just life that like things changed
Speaker 2: when he was recruited out of high school. The portal
Speaker 2: didn't exist the way that it does now. NIL wasn't
Speaker 2: what it is now. And for those who say, I
Speaker 2: hope Jeff knows what he's doing, like me too, But
Speaker 2: like if you're insinuating that, you're questioning and he's really
Speaker 2: going to have to, I mean, what risk is he
Speaker 2: taking here? Like the bigger when you say he knows
Speaker 2: what he's doing, You're like, wow, that's a risky decision.
Speaker 5: I hope he knows what he's what he's getting into.
Speaker 2: H I think that reaction would be very much warranted
Speaker 2: if he decided not to go get a quarterback and
Speaker 2: he just decided to trust a guy who's played twenty
Speaker 2: snaps in two years or something like that. So I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm not even really trying to just go like defending
Speaker 2: Jeff Brohm relentlessly here. But people unhappy and like upset
Speaker 2: about this. Your energy or your I guess your emotion
Speaker 2: is coming from the fact that things are just different,
Speaker 2: turning that energy into anger and blaming anybody for the situation. Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know where you would direct that anger, because
Speaker 2: maybe towards NS DOUBA because they didn't have any regulation
Speaker 2: in place. They tried to shove this archaic amateurism model
Speaker 2: for hundreds of years, seemingly, and now because of that,
Speaker 2: they're really really in a bad way because they can't
Speaker 2: enforce anything. You take the instab to court and guys
Speaker 2: can they seem to win every time. So you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not happy he's leaving, but I kind of expected it,
Speaker 2: and I don't think anybody did anything wrong. Sticking with
Speaker 2: Looival football, some good news here we've got I have not.
Speaker 2: I don't really know where this came from, but I
Speaker 2: did see well it's probably one of those message board things,
Speaker 2: and if I knew where it was coming from, I
Speaker 2: would give them credit, because trust me, this is something
Speaker 2: I was aware of. But I'm happy to hear it.
Speaker 2: That's that Colin Lacey is going to play in the
Speaker 2: Bowl game. Which is great because you know, he was
Speaker 2: he was healthy enough to play when he decided to
Speaker 2: opt out. But obviously he opted out because he wanted
Speaker 2: to maintain another year. And in the end, that was
Speaker 2: a good decision. Like it was probably still something certain
Speaker 2: fans don't like, but like it gave him a chance
Speaker 2: to play another season, and now you have him for
Speaker 2: another year. You were able to still win without him,
Speaker 2: at least enough. You went eight and four and he
Speaker 2: would have helped you. But like, I'm not sure you
Speaker 2: lost any of these games because you didn't have him. So, like,
Speaker 2: that was a decision that you know, was unpopular in
Speaker 2: the eyes of a lot of people, including Jeff Brohm,
Speaker 2: but it worked out. He's now back for another season
Speaker 2: and you don't have such a need to go to
Speaker 2: the portal and find playmakers on offense. You still need
Speaker 2: to go get guys in there doing that. But he's
Speaker 2: I mean, he may be your best offensive player next year.
Speaker 2: I mean, kind of sounds crazy to say, given we've
Speaker 2: got Isaac Brown coming back and Duke Watson and Miller
Speaker 2: Moss is pretty special. I think Chris Bell is going
Speaker 2: to be really good next year. So you know, that
Speaker 2: sounds like a stretch. But it wouldn't be a shocker
Speaker 2: if he is, because when healthy at Louisville, he started
Speaker 2: to really make some plays, and we know what he
Speaker 2: was doing before he got to Louisville and the boat.
Speaker 2: The postseason games don't count, so this won't count towards
Speaker 2: his you know, red shirt situation, right like this won't
Speaker 2: count towards a game that would make it to where
Speaker 2: he wouldn't be able to actually still utilize that red shirt.
Speaker 2: Now this is not pretending to football, but last night
Speaker 2: on the Pat Kelsey Coaches Show, he was asked, of course,
Speaker 2: about Trey Ouray, and I get the sense that just
Speaker 2: you know, and he didn't say this directly, but I
Speaker 2: feel like he's going to play against North Carolina, which, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, you certainly need all the help you can
Speaker 2: get against anybody you're playing, given just how tough it's
Speaker 2: been for this team with injuries. But I mean that's
Speaker 2: the next I mean, I know Carolina is six and
Speaker 2: five and they've been competitive against the good teams, but
Speaker 2: they haven't beat any of them. They don't really have
Speaker 2: any win. We talked about it yesterday. Carolina is a
Speaker 2: team that I still think will end up being one
Speaker 2: of the best in the ACC. And I still think
Speaker 2: they're going to make the tournament safely, But like, how
Speaker 2: do they get seated if they lose to all these
Speaker 2: really good teams and then they don't have any opportunities
Speaker 2: to get big wins when they get to ACC play.
Speaker 2: So just hearing Pat talk about tray Ora, I mean,
Speaker 2: you guys know, I was as high on Treira as anybody.
Speaker 2: Not that I thought he would be your leading scorer
Speaker 2: or that he would be, you know, this all American
Speaker 2: kind of player, but man, he's you know, the one
Speaker 2: thing that like he could you know that he doesn't
Speaker 2: really that you probably can't rely on. Is him just
Speaker 2: producing a lot of points for you. But you know,
Speaker 2: if he can give you eight to nine a game
Speaker 2: and he's helping you on the glass, he's playing really
Speaker 2: good defense. One thing we didn't really get a chance
Speaker 2: to see a lot of because he only played two
Speaker 2: games before he got hurt. He's a really good passer.
Speaker 2: And look in the half court. This team, they they
Speaker 2: you know, they're starting to get comfortable. I think you
Speaker 2: could tell against Kentucky they're starting to kind of find
Speaker 2: their rhythm. Each guy individually kind of figuring out where
Speaker 2: they fit in this new seven man rotation. But the
Speaker 2: guy that can distribute make it a little easier for
Speaker 2: you to get buckets out there because there's not a
Speaker 2: lot of creators. But I think he can do that
Speaker 2: more so for others than himself. Just a really rare player.
Speaker 2: So the center he's back to better. And again I
Speaker 2: still think this Florida State game, by the way is
Speaker 2: is is big, not because you've got a whole lot
Speaker 2: to gain, but man, I think a loss here would
Speaker 2: maybe it would be the end of the world.
Speaker 5: Wouldn't mean you can't make the tournament, but it would.
Speaker 2: I think it would take away a lot of the
Speaker 2: value that I believe they have they have with how
Speaker 2: they've played against these good teams despite it being losses.
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Speaker 2: Let's see here, where do we want to go? This
Speaker 2: is something that that just it's distracting me, so I'll
Speaker 2: just share it with you guys, and I do think
Speaker 2: it's interesting. So the depth chart has come out for
Speaker 2: the bowl game for Louisville. So i'd mentioned the quarterback
Speaker 2: situation with Louisville, I would assume I would have assumed
Speaker 2: it was going to be Pierce Clarkson, but he is uh,
Speaker 2: and who knows, maybe he was told he wasn't going
Speaker 2: to start the bowl game because they just feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, because Jef's gonna want to win.
Speaker 5: And that's why.
Speaker 2: As I see here, Harrison Bailey is listed starter with
Speaker 2: Deuce Adams as your backup. So you know, I think
Speaker 2: it would make I'm looking at this as, hey, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't really care if Louisville loses. Let's just see
Speaker 2: what we got. But that's not how Jeff's gonna approach it.
Speaker 2: And I get it. So he's probably hoping to get
Speaker 2: do some some reps. But you know, they're going to
Speaker 2: try to go win this game because that's that's you know,
Speaker 2: that's that's how they're wired.
Speaker 5: That's what they should do.
Speaker 2: But I'm looking here at Deuce Adams on the depth
Speaker 2: chart and I'm thinking, okay, backup, makes sense. He's the
Speaker 2: only these are the only two scholarship quarterbacks you're gonna have.
Speaker 5: For the bowl game.
Speaker 2: But they listed him at six six two twenty in
Speaker 2: a red shirt sophomore. First of all, I'm thinking, wait
Speaker 2: a second, he's, first of all, not a red shirt
Speaker 2: sophomore as a true freshman, and I'm thinking six six
Speaker 2: to twenty.
Speaker 5: Damn.
Speaker 2: But he's not six six two twenty. He's in fact
Speaker 2: much smaller than that. So I'm thinking that's kind of odd.
Speaker 2: That's gotta be like a it's gotta be like a typo, right,
Speaker 2: And sure enough, I end up looking here. This is
Speaker 2: a Twitter account called Cardinal Companion, and uh yeah, car
Speaker 2: cards Companion is the Twitter account a really good observation.
Speaker 2: I'm giving them credit here because they posted the depth
Speaker 2: chart and they mention that they have it. They have
Speaker 2: it backwards, like, and I don't this cannot be some random,
Speaker 2: random coincidence. But they listed Deuce atoms year, red shirt sophomore, height,
Speaker 2: weight sixty six to twenty. It's a different deuce, but
Speaker 2: a deuce that's like this to me, I can't make
Speaker 2: any sense of it, but it's the exact height and
Speaker 2: weight of another deuce who is a teammate of Miller Mosses,
Speaker 2: who is apparently considering Louisville among other schools. And his
Speaker 2: name is Deuce Robinson and he is a I mean,
Speaker 2: he's a really really talented player. He's a receiver, and
Speaker 2: he's I mean that's those are like his exact measurements.
Speaker 2: Now I don't know if he's a red shirt junior
Speaker 2: or not, but like, yeah, so maybe they got that
Speaker 2: part of it wrong. But anyways, this gives me a
Speaker 2: chance to tell you that of all the guys that
Speaker 2: are visiting, and there's plenty of them, it's tough for
Speaker 2: me to even keep up with, but this would be
Speaker 2: this would be a big time get because Robinson was
Speaker 2: recruited by Louisville coming out of high school, ended up
Speaker 2: picking USC. And he's also a baseball player too, from
Speaker 2: an I understand, So, I mean tough to know if
Speaker 2: Louisville's one of the leaders or just one of the
Speaker 2: many schools that's reached out. And that's what's kept me
Speaker 2: from really like one.
Speaker 5: I don't know how.
Speaker 2: Entertaining it would be or interesting it would be for
Speaker 2: listeners of this radio show. The portal is certainly a
Speaker 2: big deal, but like it's really tough to keep up with.
Speaker 5: And you see a guy.
Speaker 2: Mention Louisville among ten schools, Like do you want to
Speaker 2: spend time learning about a guy that, like in a week,
Speaker 2: will never hear of again because he ended up elsewhere.
Speaker 2: It's just so chaotic and it happened so quickly that
Speaker 2: it's I mean, I'm kind of turning into that guy
Speaker 2: that's like, well, I'll just worry about him when they
Speaker 2: get here. Like I remember we used to talk like
Speaker 2: recruiting on the show, and there'd be the boomers that
Speaker 2: would be like, I don't care, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't worry about them till I see him on campus.
Speaker 2: And I'm not really there because again, I'm excited to
Speaker 2: hear about it and keep up with it, because it's
Speaker 2: really important. How you do in the portal is a
Speaker 2: big factor at how you're gonna get excited about next season.
Speaker 2: But I'm kind of just waiting for the dust to
Speaker 2: settle to kind of see fact who really is in
Speaker 2: the mix, because as mentioned, it's been been pretty hectic,
Speaker 2: but the latest commitments for Jeff Brown, They've added a
Speaker 2: FIU transfer who has a safety Jojo Evans. He committed
Speaker 2: to Louisville. They certainly needed to add some guys in
Speaker 2: the secondary and this is a good when he was
Speaker 2: the first team All Conference USA selection in this past season.
Speaker 2: They've also added a commitment from Abilene Christian transfer defensive
Speaker 2: lineman Jerry Lawson FAU offensive linemen Jordan Church. Looks like
Speaker 2: he visited but did not commit, and that's what's even
Speaker 2: harder to keep up. But I think they've got In
Speaker 2: the last few days, they've had more than twenty guys
Speaker 2: visiting from the portal. I mean, maybe that's a slight exaggeration,
Speaker 2: but I'm thinking it's around twenty so. And some of
Speaker 2: these guys are really good players. And I guess at
Speaker 2: any moment, if they do in fact commit, it wouldn't
Speaker 2: be a big shocker. And I think how quickly all
Speaker 2: this happens is what makes it so chaotic. I mean,
Speaker 2: it would be a lot to keep up with anyways,
Speaker 2: just because there's so many players that enter the portal.
Speaker 5: But and for those that have said, like why do
Speaker 5: they do it?
Speaker 2: In between bowl games and in between the playoff, like
Speaker 2: that just makes it so much more difficult.
Speaker 5: And you're right, but the answer is obvious. It's because there's.
Speaker 2: A semester break. That's like you're going to enter the
Speaker 2: portal when school ends. And that's why I mean that
Speaker 2: that that window of time is always going to start
Speaker 2: when your semesters in so you can look at where
Speaker 2: you want to go next, and they're never going to change,
Speaker 2: at least not in a big way. When you I mean,
Speaker 2: the college football season is going to take place in
Speaker 2: the same timeline that it always has and now it's
Speaker 2: just extended because of the because of the playoff expansion.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, this is going to be the
Speaker 2: norm moving forward to where you sign your your freshman
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago or a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 2: like they did, or maybe it was just last week.
Speaker 5: I don't know when it was.
Speaker 2: But and then as soon as as soon as the
Speaker 2: semester ends, guys hit the portal and it's open and
Speaker 2: it's a free for all, and it's I think it's
Speaker 2: always going to be pretty tough to keep up with,
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, all Right, Uh so.
Speaker 5: The news of Diego Pavia.
Speaker 2: I mean that that that is something that that we
Speaker 2: talked about earlier when we had Zac Barnett on and
Speaker 2: and just to kind of give you a little bit
Speaker 2: of of of of why Diego Pavia's name came up.
Speaker 2: He went to he fought the NCAA in court by
Speaker 2: stating that his two years of playing junior college basketball
Speaker 2: or football whatever it. Maybe he played football, but two
Speaker 2: years of playing juco football should not count towards NCAA
Speaker 2: eligibility because it's the NCUBLEA and it's the nc J
Speaker 2: something like the Junior College Athletic Association.
Speaker 5: And he was I mean he was.
Speaker 2: He was granted some kind of a temporary restraining order,
Speaker 2: which ultimately led to him being able to I mean,
Speaker 2: he won. He gets another year. And what this is
Speaker 2: going to do is it's going to have it's going
Speaker 2: to have everybody else in his situation who wants to
Speaker 2: continue to play college sports fight this. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: going to be guys that are coming out of JUCO
Speaker 2: right now that are looking into what they can do,
Speaker 2: because this isn't some blanket ruling like this doesn't just
Speaker 2: say anybody that's coming out of JUCO now they all
Speaker 2: have four years to play in C DOUBLEA sports, but
Speaker 2: he was able to win. So therefore, you know, until
Speaker 2: there is a blanket ruling that lets this just be
Speaker 2: a thing for everybody, right, everybody gets the green light
Speaker 2: that plays JUCO. Guys are gonna want to take advantage
Speaker 2: of this because again, you want to stick around in
Speaker 2: college because it's probably a really good experience for you
Speaker 2: and it keeps you from having to, you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: go and get a real job. And you can also
Speaker 2: make money now, like that's the biggest factors that you
Speaker 2: can make money. And some of these guys, if they're good,
Speaker 2: they'll make more money in the one two three years
Speaker 2: they play high level college sports than they probably will
Speaker 2: at whatever career they pursue after college, as long as
Speaker 2: it's not the NFL. And let's be real, a lot
Speaker 2: of really good players don't play in the NFL because
Speaker 2: it's a pretty competitive gig to get. So what I
Speaker 2: find fascinating about this as someone who did spend some
Speaker 2: time playing junior college basketball, I just think of what
Speaker 2: this is like if this ends up being a thing
Speaker 2: to where you can end up going to like you
Speaker 2: just know that you can go spend two years at
Speaker 2: JUCO and then start your four year college career after that.
Speaker 2: That's going to change again. I'm not sure if we'll
Speaker 2: get there, but if we do, that will change everything
Speaker 2: about these types of universities, these institutions. They now become
Speaker 2: very attractive for kids out of high school because, look,
Speaker 2: playing football as a true freshman is just gonna be
Speaker 2: really hard to do. It's always been hard to do,
Speaker 2: but now it's gonna be even harder because instead of
Speaker 2: just you know, I guess we'll roll the dice and
Speaker 2: have to rely on a true freshman, well you now again,
Speaker 2: you don't have to do that. You can go to
Speaker 2: the portal and get a guy that you know. He
Speaker 2: may be coming from the FCS. He may be coming
Speaker 2: from a.
Speaker 5: Lower level of.
Speaker 2: FBS football, like the G five, but hey, that's that's
Speaker 2: a more proven thing than what you'd be getting with
Speaker 2: a kid out of high school. Now you may and
Speaker 2: some guys may roll the dice and say, look, I
Speaker 2: can go get a journeyman essentially that's played three years
Speaker 2: at Conference USA, or I could trust my true freshman
Speaker 2: who's a four star recruit to get in there and
Speaker 2: play right away. But that's gonna be rolling the die.
Speaker 2: So like some may do that, but others may not.
Speaker 2: And that's just gonna make it to where like junior
Speaker 2: college could get some real life here that they've really
Speaker 2: never had or haven't had in a long time, and
Speaker 2: that would be huge for these for those schools. I
Speaker 2: mean there's a lot of junior colleges. Heck, the one
Speaker 2: I went to, it doesn't even exist anymore. I mean
Speaker 2: they ended up transitioning to NAI because financially that just
Speaker 2: made more sense for them, and then that school has
Speaker 2: since closed. So athletics is such a big factor in
Speaker 2: how you market your university, how you make money. And
Speaker 2: you know, in most instances there's not a whole lot
Speaker 2: of money made at the small level, but like anything
Speaker 2: that is generated like from your conference or from your
Speaker 2: gates when you have football games or whatever, like that's
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a bit. I mean, if you've got
Speaker 2: kids that have, you know, legitimate offers, but they know
Speaker 2: that they would be sitting behind multiple veterans, so they
Speaker 2: decide to go to a juco and yet they're like
Speaker 2: three star, four star kids, Like that's that that's a
Speaker 2: game changer for those kind of schools, so again.
Speaker 5: For it to be.
Speaker 2: Cleared for everybody to do it, that's where that's where
Speaker 2: it really would would, I think, kind of change how
Speaker 2: those schools, you know, how they operate, and who knows
Speaker 2: if it ends up being something everybody can end up
Speaker 2: doing or he just had a really good lawyer. But
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think I never I never thought
Speaker 2: we'd be in this situation to where one it's just
Speaker 2: so much different than it's ever been with Nil and
Speaker 2: the portal. But we're at a point where nobody really
Speaker 2: knows where it's going, right, Like it's not I mean it,
Speaker 2: there's nothing that could that could break as far as
Speaker 2: news when it comes to a guy's eligibility or the
Speaker 2: amount of money they're going to be able to make,
Speaker 2: or how many times they're transferring. Like, I don't think
Speaker 2: there's ever been a point where anything wouldn't shock you,
Speaker 2: like it, that's just where we are, and it's kind
Speaker 2: of fun in a way. But it's also like I
Speaker 2: get why coaches now just realize this is not the
Speaker 2: same job that I that I wanted to do. Like
Speaker 2: Dave Clawson, and he's probably not the best example because
Speaker 2: you know, he's he's a he's a drummy old man
Speaker 2: seemingly anyway, And there's clearly some history between you know,
Speaker 2: Louisville and Clawson at wake Forest.
Speaker 5: But he mentioned in you know.
Speaker 2: In fact, what he said word for word was I
Speaker 2: just don't want to do it. It's not how I
Speaker 2: build programs, it's not why I got into coaching. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: that sounds a lot like, hey, you know, I'm going
Speaker 2: to take my ball and go home. But let's just
Speaker 2: take him a face value like that that quote specifically,
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's being truthful because I think
Speaker 2: a lot of coaches would tell you that if they
Speaker 2: if they, if they could. And what I mean by
Speaker 2: that is you keep, if you're if you're staying in
Speaker 2: the game, and you're still going to be wanting to
Speaker 2: coach and make millions of dollars with this job being
Speaker 2: a much different job than what you initially signed up
Speaker 2: to do. I mean, you're not going to be successful
Speaker 2: one with that mindset, like you're you're you're already defeated
Speaker 2: if you're looking at it as this is terrible, Like
Speaker 2: you've got to embrace it and live with it and adapt.
Speaker 2: And certain coaches are doing that, and some coaches don't
Speaker 2: want to and I get it. I mean it is
Speaker 2: a the way in which certain coaches needed to operate,
Speaker 2: needed to do things in order to you know, have success.
Speaker 2: They can't really do that anymore, and that's not really
Speaker 2: their fault. I mean that's and things change, and you know,
Speaker 2: I'm just curious what that job looks like in ten years. Meaning,
Speaker 2: are the best head coaches in basketball and in football?
Speaker 2: Are they the guys that you know, not only know
Speaker 2: a lot about the game, but they can motivate players,
Speaker 2: They can they can campaign and raise money for nil. Like,
Speaker 2: there's so many layers to it now. And I know
Speaker 2: there's been so much talk about like needing a really
Speaker 2: good GM, and I you know, that's why you're seeing
Speaker 2: these jobs.
Speaker 5: They're created.
Speaker 2: They're being created across the country because the coaches one
Speaker 2: don't have the ability to manage it all themselves. They
Speaker 2: really don't probably want to do a lot of the
Speaker 2: work themselves as far as like balancing the budget and whatnot,
Speaker 2: knowing what players gonna get what, that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: But I think with college sports, you know, whoever the
Speaker 2: GM is, they're still working directly with that coach and
Speaker 2: that coach is still gonna have like what I'm long
Speaker 2: story short, what I'm trying to say is that even
Speaker 2: if you do bring in a GM to kind of
Speaker 2: handle all that work that you really don't want to do,
Speaker 2: there's no scenario you're just you're not involved like you're
Speaker 2: gonna have to be, because you're gonna have to make
Speaker 2: like you're gonna you're gonna be the one that's gonna
Speaker 2: have to determine, you know what, what do you know?
Speaker 2: Let me know what we have to work with when
Speaker 2: it comes to nil, and let's figure out how we
Speaker 2: can kind of, you know, manage that. And the gms
Speaker 2: can't be recruiting players. The coaches are gonna have to
Speaker 2: recruit players, and the coach is gonna have those conversations
Speaker 2: about money. And technically I don't even know if they're
Speaker 2: like supposed to according to the ends stated, but we
Speaker 2: know that they're We know that they're doing that, like
Speaker 2: it's been right in front of our face for the
Speaker 2: last week two weeks that like rules that are technically
Speaker 2: still rules are getting broken, like crazy guys are entering
Speaker 2: the portal committing five minutes later. It's because tampering's going on.
Speaker 2: You know, clearly players are being bought. Like that's just
Speaker 2: where we are, and it's just another example of how
Speaker 2: the n S DOUAA. Like, what purpose does the NAA
Speaker 2: serve right now?
Speaker 5: Literally?
Speaker 2: What purpose does the NSAA have right now in high
Speaker 2: level college sports? I mean they certainly serve a purpose
Speaker 2: at the lower level, but like at the high level,
Speaker 2: what do they exist for right now? Basketball and football?
Speaker 2: Why do we need them?
Speaker 5: We don't.
Speaker 2: You have to have some regulation, like you have to
Speaker 2: have some level of enforcement, but like what they're doing
Speaker 2: now is not much of anything. I mean, these power
Speaker 2: leagues just need to collectively vote on somebody to be
Speaker 2: their commissioner and they enforce their own rules. Maybe they'll
Speaker 2: only let you transfer one time if you make a
Speaker 2: bad decision at a high school or if your coach leaves.
Speaker 5: Like this, just this can't be.
Speaker 2: Sustainable, right, But I feel like we've been saying that
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Speaker 2: Man, I cannot wait for these college football playoff games
Speaker 2: to start tomorrow. It'll be Indiana and Notre Dame and
Speaker 2: the only game tomorrow night, and then of course three
Speaker 2: games on Saturday should be should be awesome.
Speaker 5: I have not let me see here.
Speaker 2: It's not super important because we're not doing postgame shows currently,
Speaker 2: but I don't know when Louisville basketball plays. No chance,
Speaker 2: you know, Austin, you have a guess. I'm gonna guess
Speaker 2: it's a nooner. Yeah, probably, I'm gonna say nooner. And
Speaker 2: I know it's on the CW. Maybe one, yeah, usually basketball. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they don't start many. Well, yeah, so let's see. We
Speaker 2: were both wrong two o'clock. You were closer than me, though,
Speaker 2: so two o'clock on Saturday on the CW. And I
Speaker 2: know it sounds corny, and I've said it many times,
Speaker 2: but I love watching this team play. I just I
Speaker 2: think more than anything, I'm just so I'm so desperate
Speaker 2: to see them look good to where I can still
Speaker 2: have some hope that they do in fact find their
Speaker 2: way to the tournament this year. But also, like I'm
Speaker 2: I mean, and I will say this, I don't talk
Speaker 2: to every fan like I'm not going door to door
Speaker 2: auditing every fan to get their thoughts and whatnot, but
Speaker 2: because of what the last few years were where we
Speaker 2: just felt lifeless, and not only that, like when we
Speaker 2: did have a good season last time, the last two
Speaker 2: seasons that were remotely good. One you didn't get in
Speaker 2: the tournament because of some bid Steelers and you were
Speaker 2: the first team left out right, and then the year
Speaker 2: before that you had a good team and we didn't
Speaker 2: even get.
Speaker 5: A tournament because of a global pandemic.
Speaker 2: So just to kind of you know, like, I know,
Speaker 2: what happened in the last five years or so is
Speaker 2: never like we can't compare the future moving forward to
Speaker 2: that and say, well, hey, why are you upset? Well,
Speaker 2: at least we're not four and twenty eight like, but
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. I just the the years where
Speaker 2: we were just kind of lifeless has made it to
Speaker 2: where like now, like I just look forward to watching
Speaker 2: this team play because they're going to play hard, and
Speaker 2: you know they're going to probably lose to team the
Speaker 2: rest of the way that and it's gonna be sad.
Speaker 2: But uh, you know, the Kentucky game was one that
Speaker 2: is just tricky because I understand, no matter what, there's
Speaker 2: never a loss to your rival where you're like feeling good.
Speaker 2: But if you didn't really expect to win because of
Speaker 2: the situation, knowing that Kentucky's a pretty damn good team
Speaker 2: in Louisville hadn't been able to beat a team to
Speaker 2: that of that that caliber with a handful of tries
Speaker 2: so far this year. Like, you know, I guess I'm
Speaker 2: the moral victory guy because I'm encouraged with this team
Speaker 2: despite those results. But when I say that, I get
Speaker 2: bombarded by people saying I'm you know, a moral victory guy.
Speaker 2: And that's the first sign of the standard slipping. You're
Speaker 2: you're you're pleased with it.
Speaker 5: I'm not. It's not that pleased or being satisfied.
Speaker 2: It's just about like, you know context, you know, at
Speaker 2: Rapparina against a really good team, they were competitive, and
Speaker 2: and you know, you play that game in that scenario
Speaker 2: ten times, you probably can can get a few of them.
Speaker 5: We'll never know, but yeah, two o'clock on.
Speaker 2: Saturday against against Florida State. All right, So these playoff
Speaker 2: games the price to get in, So the first round
Speaker 2: games the get in price for these four you got
Speaker 2: a big difference, and you know, shout out to to
Speaker 2: Indiana fans because the get in price for IU and
Speaker 2: Notre Dame is the most expensive and it's buy an
Speaker 2: insane amount. So the get in price currently four hundred
Speaker 2: and sixteen dollars, and look, Notre Dame is notre name.
Speaker 2: But like Indiana, there's a fact they're a factor in
Speaker 2: that too, like Indiana, and you know, it makes sense,
Speaker 2: it's relatively close. I'm sure there's Indiana fans in South Bend,
Speaker 2: but like Indiana football, this year they've been They've never
Speaker 2: even had like an identity as a football fan base
Speaker 2: or as a program, to be honest with you, and
Speaker 2: you know this year they were, I mean they sold
Speaker 2: out games. Like put it this way, if Indiana had
Speaker 2: the same weather that the Penn State is having in
Speaker 2: Indiana was hosting, Indiana would would have sold their game
Speaker 2: out long ago. And the fact that Penn State is
Speaker 2: likely not going to sell out their home game it
Speaker 2: still just seems crazy to me. But we can talk
Speaker 2: about that a little bit later on. But four hundred
Speaker 2: and sixteen dollars is what it cost to get in
Speaker 2: if you want to buy a ticket to go see
Speaker 2: Indiana in Notre Dame. The second most expensive is Ohio
Speaker 2: State in Texas. I'm sorry, yeah, hoistateon Tennessee. Excuse me,
Speaker 2: it's one hundred twelve dollars.
Speaker 5: So think about that.
Speaker 2: Look at the difference there. One is born sixteen, one
Speaker 2: is one hundred and twelve. And then after that it
Speaker 2: goes to Clemson, Texas, which is a little bit cheaper
Speaker 2: at ninety three bucks, and then much cheaper when it
Speaker 2: comes to the SMU Penn State game, fifty five bucks
Speaker 2: to get you in that one. So why am I
Speaker 2: like all in on Indiana? Not meaning like I think
Speaker 2: they're gonna win, but like, well.
Speaker 3: It's a new team. It's kind of close to home,
Speaker 3: like literally and figuratively. Yeah, and our guy John, and
Speaker 3: we don't and yeah and our guy John, and I
Speaker 3: don't know. I guess us as Louisville fans has never
Speaker 3: really I don't know about you, but I've never really
Speaker 3: like had any animosity towards Indiana.
Speaker 5: I SA same, here's no.
Speaker 3: Rivalry there, Like you know, I'm sure the Kentucky fans
Speaker 3: probably hate them a little bit more than you do,
Speaker 3: and it's probably the same on the Indiana front.
Speaker 4: But I'm just you know Louisville.
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously they weren't there at the college football playoffs,
Speaker 3: but Louisville was there at that point, and you know,
Speaker 3: just trying to be like a football program. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 3: get putting their name on the map.
Speaker 4: We were there.
Speaker 2: I just think whenever it comes to teams that I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't really like them, it's more so because of
Speaker 2: their fans and it you know, sometimes maybe it is personal,
Speaker 2: but like the reason the rivalry is what it is
Speaker 2: with Louisville and Kentucky more often than not, I mean, coaches,
Speaker 2: players come and go. The reason you have the animosity
Speaker 2: towards your rival is because of the fans that you
Speaker 2: and a lot of that is is is not serious
Speaker 2: to where like you you personally dislike people or that
Speaker 2: you know you you think that they're bad human beings.
Speaker 2: But I also do know that there's like, as I
Speaker 2: say that right now, you're probably thinking of somebody you
Speaker 2: don't like that's a Kentucky fan, or somebody you don't
Speaker 2: like that's a Louisville fan. And like, I mean, some
Speaker 2: of the best people I know were Kentucky fans. Some
Speaker 2: of the closest people in my life are Kentucky fans.
Speaker 2: So it's trust me, I'm not saying that, like you
Speaker 2: just assume that if you're a UK fan that you
Speaker 2: don't like them, but like you know, I know how
Speaker 2: it works. I know, I'm it's I'm there's there's somebody
Speaker 2: that you may really like. But if they then you
Speaker 2: watched the rivalry game of them and they were obnoxious,
Speaker 2: you would probably try to tell yourself like, hey, it's
Speaker 2: not that big of a deal, but like you also
Speaker 2: deep down would probably be like, all the hell with
Speaker 2: this guy, I'm never talking to them again because that
Speaker 2: because we're because we're kind of crazy about this kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. So when it comes to Indiana, I I mean,
Speaker 2: I know a few fans again, a company man John
Speaker 2: is a great dude, good friend, But like I can't
Speaker 2: really think of like Indiana fans being any certain way
Speaker 2: because I don't really interact with them, Like I don't
Speaker 2: really know a lot about them. And the Notre Dame
Speaker 2: fans like they're they're lame, Like they're mostly just bandwagoners.
Speaker 2: They maybe they are Catholic and they just decided to
Speaker 2: root for Notre Dame for that reason. I guess that
Speaker 2: makes sense, but like or they watched Rudy and thought
Speaker 2: it was a good movie. Rudy sucks, not a good
Speaker 2: movie at all, and it's dad was the worst. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's the biggest a hole.
Speaker 4: I actually like Rudy under my bra.
Speaker 5: Oh it's I mean, look it's not I mean, is
Speaker 5: it a nostalgia thing or what?
Speaker 4: I guess?
Speaker 2: So, did you just love did you knew you knew
Speaker 2: Vince Vaughan was going to be a star. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what it was.
Speaker 3: I mean, Sean aston Man, he's yeah, I mean it's goonies.
Speaker 3: It's a good up put it this way. I don't
Speaker 3: know why it became like the ultimate football movie and
Speaker 3: it's good, but like the fact that it's like just
Speaker 3: viewed as this legendary I don't know.
Speaker 5: I I guess I'm just a hater.
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I'm I'm I am a habitual Hater's true.
Speaker 3: I hate Notre Dame too, But for some reason, I've
Speaker 3: always liked that movie. It's a good underdog story, even
Speaker 3: though I guess it's toned down a little bit when
Speaker 3: you kind of find out a lot of it.
Speaker 4: Is way of fabricated.
Speaker 3: Oh of course, Yeah, like over dramatized, I guess, but
Speaker 3: you know, it's still still a good film for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I'm a sucker for those kind of stories,
Speaker 2: but I guess I just have always been kind of
Speaker 2: anti Notre Dame, so therefore, I it's just I associate
Speaker 2: the movie with them, and that that that hurt. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: Sean Aston. It's not your fault. You didn't you didn't
Speaker 2: you know, you didn't have any control over that. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I thought he would end up being like a bigger
Speaker 2: name after that.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, he really not really too much. He just
Speaker 3: kind of stayed in that room. He's always looked the
Speaker 3: same too.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought it was hilarious when I realized he was in.
Speaker 2: He was the guy that was in the breakup with
Speaker 2: Jennifer Aniston and Vince vond and like those two guys
Speaker 2: were working together again, Like I remember making that connection
Speaker 2: parallel plans.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, when did that Rudy come out? Now?
Speaker 2: I mean I feel like it was Yeah, I knew
Speaker 2: it came out around the time I was a little kid,
Speaker 2: and I came out in ninety three, whenever I was
Speaker 2: when I was three year Ok, So do you have
Speaker 2: like again we talked for this earlier in the week.
Speaker 2: Are you like when I asked you if you have
Speaker 2: a preference, like who you want to win the whole thing?
Speaker 1: Me?
Speaker 5: Indiana?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess some more or less kind of rooting
Speaker 3: for Indiana. And as as our guy Zach said, I
Speaker 3: wouldn't mind SMU either. And it's not once again me
Speaker 3: being ace see no Homer, but I you know, I
Speaker 3: like to see it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And let's just say it ends up going you know, uh, chalk,
Speaker 2: and it ends up where there's no like no Cinderella's
Speaker 2: gotta gotta got a seat at the table towards the end.
Speaker 2: And it's just like the teams that we expect to
Speaker 2: be really good, like of the big dogs like Oregon, Texas, Georgia.
Speaker 5: Ohio State. Who would you prefer out of those?
Speaker 2: Uh? I probably would go Oregon. Me what about use
Speaker 2: you know, I just because I want somebody to win
Speaker 2: a championship for the first time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you're right. When I was listening back to
Speaker 3: the show yesterday, I said, Ohio State. I wouldn't mind Oregon.
Speaker 3: Oregon's always kind of been there. Just might as let
Speaker 3: that let them get that monkey off there.
Speaker 2: The last first time national champion is uh Is is
Speaker 2: Florida when Spurrier was there, which is a long time ago.
Speaker 2: More inclusion, That's what I'm all for. Right, we gotta
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