WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.519 --> 00:00:08.839 It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for 2 00:00:08.960 --> 00:00:13.000 ignition with the aw fat podcast team. 3 00:00:13.359 --> 00:00:16.920 This is Kelson and this is Alex and we just 4 00:00:17.079 --> 00:00:22.559 had All Out two weeks after All In, and that 5 00:00:22.800 --> 00:00:24.359 was a crazy. 6 00:00:23.879 --> 00:00:24.519 Pay per view. 7 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:25.800 It was. 8 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:29.960 Just to recap some of the things that we saw. 9 00:00:30.039 --> 00:00:35.320 We saw Danny Garcia attempt to break and jfsnack possibly 10 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:38.240 break it. He did have to get carted off by 11 00:00:38.679 --> 00:00:40.560 ambulance members. 12 00:00:41.119 --> 00:00:47.799 I think he was just lazy. Maybe he hit so 13 00:00:47.880 --> 00:00:52.280 hard he thought he was Orge Cassidy. 14 00:00:54.200 --> 00:00:59.399 Yeah, we had crazy, like probably the craziest thumbtack spot 15 00:00:59.439 --> 00:01:03.280 I can remember remember in recent memory, with Chris Statlander 16 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:05.920 doing the splits on thumbtacks. 17 00:01:07.040 --> 00:01:12.040 So if you remember earlier in the show, JF actually 18 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:19.640 was Daniel Garcia that PICKEDJF right the scrotum and I said, 19 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:23.719 ow my balls from Idiocracy And then when Chris Statlander 20 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:29.000 did that spot, I went o my book. No, I 21 00:01:29.120 --> 00:01:30.799 didn't know what to say, so I just left it 22 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:31.200 at desk. 23 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:35.840 Yeah, anything you could have said wouldn't have been PG. 24 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:42.719 But yeah, yeah, like so that match was crazy, and 25 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:47.519 they've had a few. I remember that Diamonte Layla hirsh 26 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:50.640 match on the Last Ring of Honor pay per view 27 00:01:50.799 --> 00:01:57.000 was just insane WIF match, that gat match. Yeah, and 28 00:01:57.120 --> 00:02:00.280 this was this was a great match I thought as well. 29 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:03.640 It was definitely the best match in Chris Statlander and 30 00:02:03.680 --> 00:02:10.080 Willow's ongoing history. Agree, But yeah, that was just the 31 00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:16.080 tip of the violent iceberg if you will. Then we 32 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:24.759 had Brian Danielson versus Jack Perry. Pretty it was a 33 00:02:24.759 --> 00:02:26.639 good match. I thought it was a good showing from 34 00:02:26.719 --> 00:02:32.479 Jack Perry. But the ending with the Blackpool Combat Club, 35 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:38.919 John Moxley basically saves Brian Danielson from Christian Cage, cashing 36 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:45.759 in the contract on him, right, and then they're all 37 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:48.199 raising his hand and celebrating them. 38 00:02:48.280 --> 00:02:49.719 And probably the last. 39 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:52.599 Person I would expect to turn on Brian Danielson or 40 00:02:52.639 --> 00:02:57.080 to be the first person to attack him, Claudio Castignoli, 41 00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:00.680 hits him with the European uppercut. 42 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:06.879 Well, he had had that bastard pack holding back the 43 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:12.840 weepy wheeler utah too. Geez, yeah, got that was good. 44 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:14.280 That was really good. I like that. 45 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:17.120 Yeah, you know, he really didn't put up much of 46 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:17.919 a fight though. 47 00:03:20.120 --> 00:03:21.159 He was almost just. 48 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:28.199 But I mean, he just seemed to like he was 49 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:30.199 crying and upset, but to me, it just seemed like 50 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:32.520 that was it. He wasn't like really trying that hard 51 00:03:32.520 --> 00:03:33.240 to get over there. 52 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:37.000 Yeah, but I also think it's kind of like there's 53 00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:41.000 a question of does he even want to stop it? 54 00:03:41.039 --> 00:03:44.520 Does he want to join Brian Danielson's side, or does 55 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:47.280 he want to stay with the rest of the members? 56 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:51.840 You know, I think he I think he made his 57 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:54.599 decision because didn't he stay with Danielson when everybody else left? 58 00:03:56.000 --> 00:03:57.680 Yes, he did, That's what I thought. 59 00:03:57.759 --> 00:04:00.319 Yeah, he left with Danielson. So it kind of brings 60 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:02.560 in the question the Trios titles. 61 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:09.360 Yeah, for sure. Yeah, but yeah, I thought that was 62 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:15.120 amazing and just it. Yeah, it was really well done. 63 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:18.079 It's made me so much more interested in John Moxley. 64 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:24.000 And we can't forget John Moxley bringing the plastic bag. 65 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:28.680 And I know this was controversial, but you know, it's 66 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:31.279 not as controversial as some of the other things we'll 67 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:34.240 talk about tonight in my opinion, because. 68 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:36.800 See, and I disagree with you there, but go ahead. 69 00:04:37.720 --> 00:04:40.600 Because to me, you know, some of the things that 70 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:43.560 I have more of an issue with are things that 71 00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:47.879 are going to hurt people, for like literally hurt the wrestlers, 72 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:54.079 like give them real injuries or ongoing issues. This isn't 73 00:04:54.079 --> 00:04:57.639 something that can be worked. I know it's violent, it's 74 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:02.480 maybe something you don't want kids while watching, but I 75 00:05:03.319 --> 00:05:08.480 find the shockingness of it kind of good in a way. 76 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:11.079 Like and I say that as someone that's I enjoy 77 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:11.879 horror movies. 78 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:12.680 I enjoy. 79 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:17.079 Like gore and stuff, you know, not over the top. 80 00:05:17.160 --> 00:05:21.240 But I I'm not opposed to that. I'm not squeamish. 81 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:24.639 I guess well, I enjoyed Doubt Nabby and I had 82 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:25.560 no problem with it. 83 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:31.120 Yeah, is down Nabby gory? I haven't checked that out. 84 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:34.079 It depends on how bored you get with it, because 85 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:37.079 then you can fall asleep and you could have Hella 86 00:05:37.920 --> 00:05:43.600 Dalton Nabby induced nightmares. I'm telling you, man, you thick 87 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:45.279 up some really weird stuff. 88 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:48.560 Yeah. 89 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:52.399 So what did you think of the plastic bag use Kelson? 90 00:05:52.920 --> 00:05:55.839 Well, you know what do you There are a lot 91 00:05:55.879 --> 00:05:58.160 of things that happen on that pay per view that 92 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:06.480 were considered to have gone too far. I'll point out 93 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:10.680 three things, one being the plastic bag, the other being 94 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:18.439 the cinder block. Basically that was that was bad. I mean, 95 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:21.360 I don't know if it was a gimmicked cinder block 96 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:25.519 or or not. Well, there was four things. Then you 97 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:30.360 had the syringe, which was definitely gimmicked. I mean you 98 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:34.279 could clearly see it, and the chair shot that hangman 99 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:38.480 gave the swerve with the obvious gimmick chair. Of all 100 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:43.079 the things that was done, the syringe and the chair 101 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:47.199 shot are the ones that are getting the most that 102 00:06:47.319 --> 00:06:56.000 went too far where those are probably the least painful because, 103 00:06:56.399 --> 00:06:59.279 like I said, the syringe was clearly you could see 104 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:05.879 it gimmicked. Yeah, and the chair was gimmicked. I don't 105 00:07:05.879 --> 00:07:13.360 know whether the uh, the brick was gimmicked or not, 106 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:18.879 but yeah, the plastic bag is the thing that I 107 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:25.519 think was maybe a little bit irresponsible, I guess is 108 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:29.480 the best way to put it. Because don't get me 109 00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:31.879 wrong here, I'm not making a big deal out of 110 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:35.959 it because I don't really see that there was anything 111 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:40.199 wrong with it. But that looked really real because there 112 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:44.360 was no like space, you know there. It looked like 113 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:46.199 he had and I was like, after a while, I 114 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:50.800 was like, he's gonna get carbon dioxide poisoning because there's 115 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:54.199 they weren't They had that bag tight on his head. 116 00:07:54.839 --> 00:07:57.000 And there was no rips in the bag. Usually there's 117 00:07:57.040 --> 00:08:02.160 some visible rips. I didn't see one that I mean 118 00:08:02.279 --> 00:08:05.519 I would I would think if everything that was done, 119 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:10.920 that was probably the one thing that went to me 120 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:15.600 over the top. Maybe if it had been shorter, would 121 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:18.439 have been that big of a deal, but that could 122 00:08:18.439 --> 00:08:22.560 be dangerous for kids. But it's on a pay per view. 123 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:26.279 I want to stress that this is not on Dynamite 124 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:29.279 or rampage or collision. It's on a pay per view, 125 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:36.440 and you've got to expect more in a pay per view. Now, 126 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:39.720 I'm not saying that a plastic bag over Brian Danielson's 127 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:45.440 head is more necessarily, but what it is is it's 128 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:50.440 something different and something edgy and something that may have 129 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:54.519 gone a little bit too far. But again, it's on 130 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:57.399 a pay per view, so honestly, I don't have a 131 00:08:57.440 --> 00:09:01.320 problem with it. And look, there are people that are 132 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:05.080 finding the well, I'm not even gonna say people, there 133 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:07.799 are attention horrors on the internet that are trying to 134 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:09.600 make a big deal out of this pay per view 135 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:13.200 and the violence that was in it. I don't get it. 136 00:09:14.279 --> 00:09:19.080 No, And yeah, like yes, the paper did the plastic 137 00:09:19.159 --> 00:09:23.799 bag because I imagine kids watching it, and yeah, it is 138 00:09:23.799 --> 00:09:25.919 a pay per view. It was on it was like 139 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:28.960 well past ten. It was probably close to eleven o'clock 140 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:31.279 when I was actually on exactly. 141 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:33.679 Uh yeah, so. 142 00:09:34.360 --> 00:09:40.519 I think they probably wouldn't see it generally, and and 143 00:09:40.759 --> 00:09:44.240 it made it so much better because if Moxley was 144 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:49.320 just you know, choking out, Brian Danielson and Wheeler Yuda 145 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:54.240 is crying in pox arms, it wouldn't it wouldn't have 146 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:58.879 the impact that it did with the plastic bag. I'm 147 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:01.720 not saying they should overdo it or even do it again, 148 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:06.360 but it really made that moment so much more in 149 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:07.120 my opinion. 150 00:10:08.120 --> 00:10:10.879 Yeah, they could have gotten like, uh, you know, like 151 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:14.080 a camera cable or something like that and went to 152 00:10:14.120 --> 00:10:16.799 strangle him what had the same kind of thing, But 153 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:20.399 this was something that we hadn't seen before and so 154 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:23.879 it was different and it was I hate to use 155 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:27.200 the word special, but it was. It was special and 156 00:10:27.559 --> 00:10:31.559 you know, and special people like me enjoyed it. 157 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:35.600 Mm hmm. Yeah. 158 00:10:36.360 --> 00:10:40.720 What what does everybody else think? Because it's basically been 159 00:10:40.720 --> 00:10:43.759 the the Alex and Kelson Show so far? What what 160 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:45.799 what are your other opinions? 161 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:47.679 I get where they're upset about it. 162 00:10:47.720 --> 00:10:51.799 I understand it was that was to me was it 163 00:10:51.879 --> 00:10:53.960 wasn't so much that it was over too much over 164 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:57.600 the top. It's just you don't I'm you just don't 165 00:10:57.639 --> 00:11:00.279 show that kind of stuff on, even on a per 166 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:03.639 view where you're trying to physically murder somebody. That's what 167 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:06.559 it comes across as. And it would have been just 168 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:08.919 as good had they used the cable or just a 169 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:11.639 rear naked choke hold. I don't think the plastic bag 170 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:14.840 was necessary. 171 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:15.039 But I get why they did it. 172 00:11:17.919 --> 00:11:19.919 The whole Utah thing in the corner I thought was 173 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:21.799 funny because, like I said, I didn't think he put 174 00:11:21.840 --> 00:11:22.840 any kind of fight up at all. 175 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:24.159 He just sort of stood there and cried. 176 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:27.200 And I mean, if he really worried that much about 177 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:30.000 that Brian, he'd have been over there one way or 178 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:31.519 the other. He would have put up up some kind 179 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:33.039 of a fight, and he didn't. He just kind of 180 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:35.360 stood in there and pack held him and that. 181 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:38.639 Was that the rest of the show. 182 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:41.480 I don't like needles, but I didn't think it was 183 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:44.399 that big a deal For the the uh syringe, I 184 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:46.360 thought that was kind of I thought it was kind 185 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:49.039 of weird that it stuck and I was like, wow, 186 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:50.919 he kept it inn there, and then as soon as 187 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:53.440 he started to go for the chair, I said, nov Kane, 188 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:54.120 that's awesome. 189 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:56.200 Put him out so he won't feel no King, that's awesome. 190 00:11:57.320 --> 00:11:58.559 I mean that was what it was like. 191 00:11:59.000 --> 00:12:01.240 And I was just like, Okay, I mean, this was 192 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:05.440 probably the most violent they've ever been on a show, 193 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:09.559 including the use of the pizza cutter and all the 194 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:11.759 other crap that they've done in the past, I think 195 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:13.240 this was definitely the most violent. 196 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:14.440 I don't know. 197 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:18.799 I don't know if we'll ever see it again, at 198 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:20.919 least not the stuff from the last two matches. 199 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:23.519 Other than that, I thought it was a normal pay 200 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:23.879 per view. 201 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:28.720 Yeah, one other kind of things and Kay, you can 202 00:12:28.759 --> 00:12:30.320 help me out with this, well, other kind of things. 203 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:33.919 When we jump, suddenly brought up the piece of cutter. 204 00:12:34.039 --> 00:12:39.840 I remember Penta put the skewers into. Moxley said, there's 205 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:44.399 been different things that Aw's used specifically of pay per views. 206 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:48.120 I think one of the goorious was that the was 207 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:49.840 it who was it that was in that street that 208 00:12:49.840 --> 00:12:53.679 Texas death? Matt Moxley, the bob wire table that they 209 00:12:53.720 --> 00:12:56.480 went into that was like it wasn't like a table. 210 00:12:56.279 --> 00:13:01.480 But was like a trap. That was pretty wicked. Yeah, 211 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:02.399 that was pretty wicked. 212 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:07.000 Uh. You know, I didn't have a problem with I 213 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:10.120 watched videos. I'm kind of desensitized to it. I didn't care. 214 00:13:10.879 --> 00:13:14.039 I think there are a lot of people neck beards 215 00:13:14.039 --> 00:13:18.200 out there just trying to stir up stuff. But if 216 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:21.000 you're gonna sit there and say say that I love people, 217 00:13:21.039 --> 00:13:23.440 say that a w saw, but then turn around and 218 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:27.080 do this, and which is it? But I don't know it. 219 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:29.200 It's wrestling and you have to do stuff like that 220 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:29.840 to get attention. 221 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:35.919 What about did you watch the Attitude era? MK? Yes, 222 00:13:36.759 --> 00:13:39.919 I mean some of the ship that all Undertaker did was. 223 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:47.200 On a Taker cross he you know, didn't he hang 224 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:48.159 Big Boss Man off? 225 00:13:49.639 --> 00:13:49.840 Yeah? 226 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:53.559 Yeah, I mean that's just the tip of the iceberg 227 00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:57.960 of what they did. But you know, but like I said, 228 00:13:57.960 --> 00:14:00.360 we've seen this spot before with the Bag, before with 229 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:03.759 with Terry Funk and Rick Flair, So it's not so 230 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:06.879 it's been done before. I don't know. There's some there 231 00:14:06.919 --> 00:14:09.919 was some guy on the internet, some guy out there 232 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:14.720 saying that that that they stole the needle move from him. 233 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:16.559 I thought that was kind of ridiculous, like no one 234 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:18.440 cares about some guy. 235 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:22.200 I jammed the needle of Nova Kan into my sister's 236 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:25.480 skull at times, so they stole from me. I'm probably 237 00:14:25.480 --> 00:14:34.000 older than that guy, but. 238 00:14:30.679 --> 00:14:35.360 But it's it's weird to me that people are so 239 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:38.480 every time AW does something like that, because I believe 240 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:41.320 I don't know when it was, but I think during 241 00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:46.200 a women's after women's match that was typically brutal, w 242 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:49.519 W went to sponsors and tried to get them canceled 243 00:14:49.559 --> 00:14:54.840 because of it. So, uh, I don't remember who what 244 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:57.440 it was was. It was it all out, it was 245 00:14:57.440 --> 00:15:00.600 the lights out match or something, but it just that 246 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:06.519 WWE can do shit like that, but AW can't. 247 00:15:06.879 --> 00:15:11.679 Well, you have to look at the culture of social media. 248 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:14.879 You know. There have been times that I've woken up 249 00:15:14.879 --> 00:15:17.440 in the morning and tongue in cheek, I've gone onto 250 00:15:17.679 --> 00:15:22.559 my personal Twitter account and posted something like, oh guys, 251 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:26.080 what are we boycotting today? You know, just being sarcastic, 252 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:31.480 because people will get up in arms about something and 253 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:34.120 the next day they're up in arms about something else 254 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:37.799 totally unrelated. It's just the way it is. You got 255 00:15:38.159 --> 00:15:42.440 keyboard warriors out there that are rather pathetic. You know, 256 00:15:42.679 --> 00:15:45.559 face it, and it happens on Twitter, it happens on Reddit. 257 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:49.399 They get disgusted and it's not worth the time. And 258 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:51.679 then you have these idiots coming out there like that 259 00:15:51.720 --> 00:15:54.279 one woman was I guess I had a petition to 260 00:15:55.440 --> 00:16:00.480 you know, boycott or whatever, cancel aw you. There was 261 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:04.279 one woman who didn't comber hair, lay it down. And 262 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:08.200 then there was that one guy that wore a Luca mask. 263 00:16:09.159 --> 00:16:12.799 You know, I made a total idiot out of the side. 264 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:15.519 I died on the Luca mask. I follow a guy 265 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:20.039 named follow the Revolution on Facebook, and he posted a 266 00:16:20.200 --> 00:16:22.480 video of this guy in Lucia mask claiming claiming to 267 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:26.559 be La Parka the Parka and basically said it's time 268 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:30.080 for Swerb and Amalson to come home. News flash, buddy, 269 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:33.559 they don't want to go home. They enjoy where it's at. 270 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:35.600 Well, La park is dead. 271 00:16:35.879 --> 00:16:37.240 So oh, I didn't know that. 272 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:41.840 He passed away quite a while ago. So rested peace, Laparka. 273 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:47.360 And I'm sorry, that's some moron, use your name and stupidity. 274 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:51.480 Seeing something like that, I cringed so hard. I wanted 275 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:52.639 to feel bad for him. I did. 276 00:16:54.360 --> 00:16:58.200 Well. Look, you know, overall I thought that All Out 277 00:16:58.519 --> 00:17:04.319 was really really good. It had some spots on it 278 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:09.200 that I didn't care. I really, really really wish that 279 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:13.599 Okada Tekeshta would have gone one on one, you know, 280 00:17:13.680 --> 00:17:18.119 because let's face it, Orge Cassidy was only at that 281 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:20.359 match so that Orange Cassidy would be in a match. 282 00:17:21.119 --> 00:17:25.039 I mean, that was the only purpose. And Brisco was 283 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:29.000 there to be the foil for Orage Cassidy. I mean, 284 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:31.039 that's the way I look at it. I'm sorry, but 285 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:34.240 that's the way it is. I have to give credit 286 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:38.599 to Chris Statlander Willow Nightingale because remember they were on 287 00:17:39.119 --> 00:17:43.720 right after will Osprey and Pac match, which everybody thought 288 00:17:43.720 --> 00:17:47.319 would probably be a contender for to match at a 289 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:51.519 night and it was, and then you didn't want to 290 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:56.279 follow that match, and Willow and Chris came out there 291 00:17:56.400 --> 00:18:01.359 and they put everything out on the table. And guess what, 292 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:07.880 when I was watching that match, I forgot that Ospray 293 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:11.839 and Pack even happened. And that is the best compliment 294 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:14.440 I could give those two women. They put on a 295 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:17.039 hell of a show, So good for them. I mean 296 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:20.759 I think that everything on the show, the pre show 297 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:27.160 was just god awful, but everything, oh my god, It's 298 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:29.720 like Okay, who else are we going to trot out here? 299 00:18:31.519 --> 00:18:37.359 You know? But the show itself was really really good. 300 00:18:38.440 --> 00:18:41.839 It really was that it had a lot of variety 301 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:46.680 to it, and it didn't have multimn matches except for 302 00:18:46.799 --> 00:18:55.160 that one, which, unfortunately the Okata and Dakeshta and Cassidy 303 00:18:55.400 --> 00:19:01.400 and Briscoe batch was the only match that I kind 304 00:19:01.400 --> 00:19:05.920 of my mind started wandering because it was just you know, 305 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:08.880 you know, from listening to the to me speaking, I 306 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:12.119 don't like these. I'm not a fan of trios matches 307 00:19:12.119 --> 00:19:14.880 because there's too much going on, but I especially don't 308 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:18.759 like multiman matches where everybody's in the ring. There's too 309 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:24.000 much I don't know, stand it around outside of the 310 00:19:24.079 --> 00:19:25.200 ring for no reason. 311 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:28.839 Yeah, I think that was the worst match of the show. 312 00:19:28.920 --> 00:19:31.079 But and it wasn't even that bad. It was it 313 00:19:31.119 --> 00:19:31.839 was probably. 314 00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:34.519 Wasn't It wasn't awful. Yeah, it wasn't awful. It was 315 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:37.640 just far below what everybody else did. 316 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:41.640 Yeah, because I didn't expect much from the tag team match, 317 00:19:41.680 --> 00:19:45.640 and that was just a really solid, NonStop action tag 318 00:19:45.680 --> 00:19:50.559 team match. And yeah, both women's matches were pretty good. 319 00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:53.759 I thought that the ending for the Mercedes Monett did. 320 00:19:53.799 --> 00:19:55.920 The match was a little awkward. 321 00:19:56.599 --> 00:20:01.000 I'm sure everyone agrees, but needs. 322 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:03.039 To get a new finisher because that just, you know what, 323 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:05.079 you know what, it reminds me of it. It reminds me 324 00:20:05.160 --> 00:20:09.079 of the GTS. When Monet hits it, it looks and 325 00:20:09.160 --> 00:20:12.599 she hits it right, it looks pretty good, you know, 326 00:20:13.079 --> 00:20:16.559 but like when Punk would try to GTS or whoever 327 00:20:16.640 --> 00:20:19.960 who else does the GTS uh Sebbi Guevara does it 328 00:20:19.960 --> 00:20:21.640 every once in a while. There's a couple of other 329 00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:25.119 guys that when they hit it, it looks really good, 330 00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:28.720 but if they miss it by even a millimeter, it 331 00:20:28.839 --> 00:20:35.119 looks horrible. It really does, and they got to stop those. 332 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:37.440 Bonett needs a new finisher. 333 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:40.880 Yeah, I think she's done it like ten times and 334 00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:44.480 maybe one or two times it's yeah, yeah. 335 00:20:44.359 --> 00:20:47.000 She needs to do a nipple twister or something like that. 336 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:59.759 Something they get it. Just yeah, Well, I want to 337 00:21:00.839 --> 00:21:04.680 I want to move on because this is interesting and 338 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:08.599 I have a couple of I have a couple of 339 00:21:09.079 --> 00:21:11.519 opinions on that, but I'm going to hold my opinions, 340 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:15.000 let everybody else talk first, and hopefully somebody will say 341 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:17.759 something that I was thinking, and then I won't have 342 00:21:17.799 --> 00:21:22.359 to you know. Fuck well anyway that what I'm we're 343 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:25.000 going to talk about is AW Shockwave? 344 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:27.200 What is it? 345 00:21:27.799 --> 00:21:32.640 And I mean there's rumors going around, and for each 346 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:36.599 rumor to comes up, somebody else shoots it down. There's 347 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:42.440 nothing definitive at all. I'm hearing this though that's already 348 00:21:42.440 --> 00:21:45.880 been debunked. I'm hearing this. Nope, that's the bunk too, 349 00:21:46.519 --> 00:21:51.680 you know. But Shockwave was trademarked by AW and the 350 00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:54.240 only thing that I will say is that it was 351 00:21:54.319 --> 00:21:59.000 not trademarked for merchandising or anything of that sort. It 352 00:21:59.079 --> 00:22:05.400 was trademarked as a wrestling show or event, So that 353 00:22:05.400 --> 00:22:07.440 could mean it could be a show, it could be 354 00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:11.119 a pay per view. Tony Kahan was asked about it 355 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:18.119 on the media Scrum and he said, basically a politician's answer. 356 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:22.799 He spoke for two minutes and said absolutely nothing. Basically, 357 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:25.200 he said, well, AW is going to send the shockwave 358 00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:28.480 through professional wrestling, and that didn't give a hint or 359 00:22:28.519 --> 00:22:33.000 a clue about anything. However, he did say somebody flat 360 00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:36.599 out asked him in the next month or so, what 361 00:22:36.720 --> 00:22:40.359 are the chances that we're going to hear about a 362 00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:46.160 new TV deal? And Tony Khan said nine the chance, 363 00:22:46.359 --> 00:22:49.480 there's a ninety percent chance within the next month or so, 364 00:22:50.119 --> 00:22:52.480 I believe was the words that we used that we'll 365 00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:55.440 hear about the new TV deal. People are saying that 366 00:22:55.480 --> 00:23:00.279 it's already signed, but it's non exclusive or is it? 367 00:23:01.480 --> 00:23:08.200 We don't know that is what is. Well, we can't 368 00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:11.599 really say what a W shockwave is because then we 369 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:14.119 would all we don't know, so we'd all look kind 370 00:23:14.200 --> 00:23:16.960 of dumb. But what do we want it to be? 371 00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:21.960 I'm hoping it's a pay per view after uh sometime 372 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:26.000 next year between uh what is the one called in 373 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:26.920 in in Japan? 374 00:23:27.079 --> 00:23:29.359 It's that's not Russell Dream next year. 375 00:23:31.160 --> 00:23:35.000 Russell Dynasty is Okay, that's the way between that one 376 00:23:35.079 --> 00:23:39.079 and anytime after that one before all out or uh 377 00:23:39.319 --> 00:23:42.000 double or nothing would be an awesome pay per view. 378 00:23:42.599 --> 00:23:47.599 But I think I think Russell Dynasty's in in January, 379 00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:51.519 John January fifth, and then I think the next pay 380 00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:55.200 per view is April and that's all in. 381 00:23:56.160 --> 00:23:59.119 No, they've got when are they going to Australia. 382 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:01.920 Or is it? Or is that the one? I don't know, 383 00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:02.920 but I think that. 384 00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:03.839 Was the second one. 385 00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:07.160 Yeah, that's what I want to slam, right, and who 386 00:24:07.240 --> 00:24:09.400 knows if that's even a paper. 387 00:24:09.960 --> 00:24:10.319 It is. 388 00:24:10.599 --> 00:24:14.119 Okay, it's not listed as a paper, it's not listed 389 00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:15.759 as a pay per view, but I think it's going 390 00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:16.039 to be. 391 00:24:16.799 --> 00:24:18.359 Yeah it is. 392 00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:22.640 But anyway, so what do we want shock Wave to be? 393 00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:24.799 You wanted to be a pay per view? 394 00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:28.359 You want to I wanted to be something that has 395 00:24:28.799 --> 00:24:34.000 never been seen in some way adding it kind of 396 00:24:34.039 --> 00:24:38.039 takeing like a forbidden Door, but making it like like 397 00:24:38.079 --> 00:24:41.039 a super show bigger than any forbidden Door has ever been, 398 00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:47.440 maybe throwing in two or three indies or something that 399 00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:48.599 we haven't seen before. 400 00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:55.200 All Right, One thing that I wanted to add that 401 00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:59.079