Speaker 1: Hi, Hello and welcome. It is September twenty fifth, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five. It's Thursday night, which means it's time for
Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Night in America. Welcome to the latest episode
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Speaker 1: it multiple times. He's gonna wow us again for the
Speaker 1: umpteenth consecutive time. Want to welcome on the Man, the myth,
Speaker 1: the legend, the guy who's in charge of NFL fantasy
Speaker 1: betting and projections over at Established the Run. He is
Speaker 1: at Jack Miller zero two on X Jack. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me on. I hope I can
Speaker 2: live up to that intro you just gave me. But
Speaker 2: it's crazy. We're already on the week four. It feels
Speaker 2: like it's flying by. So excited to be on here again.
Speaker 1: I was listening to you and Adam Levitan and oh
Speaker 1: God helped me out who else was on that show.
Speaker 1: I'm the latest established around the podcast, and I think exactly, yes,
Speaker 1: thank you. And you said the same thing about you know,
Speaker 1: it's already on the week four, and it got me thinking,
Speaker 1: I'm like, God, you know, we spend all off season
Speaker 1: just pining and waiting, and finally at the season's here,
Speaker 1: and and if it feels like it just started and
Speaker 1: we're already a month in. It's the longest off season
Speaker 1: in professional sports, which I guess could be a good
Speaker 1: thing for the NFL, but it's also a bad thing too.
Speaker 1: And and you think about how your takes and how
Speaker 1: your stances and how your flag plants have gone, you know,
Speaker 1: over the course of drafting season, and how they can shift,
Speaker 1: you know. I I think the thing that we need
Speaker 1: to understand here in in being fantasy analysts, not that
Speaker 1: I'm one, I'm just I just I'm just a host.
Speaker 1: But the thing that we need to understand is we
Speaker 1: could spend all summer researching and doing all this stuff,
Speaker 1: but when we get this fresh information, and now four
Speaker 1: weeks of fresh information, Jack, I'm sure you've pivoted and
Speaker 1: you've moved off of some of your takes in July
Speaker 1: and August because you have to, because it's a smart
Speaker 1: thing to do.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we get all this information, or we
Speaker 2: think we get all this information throughout June, July, August,
Speaker 2: preseason training camp, all that, but you don't. The cards
Speaker 2: aren't really on the table until week one, and that's
Speaker 2: when we see what coaches and teams actually want to
Speaker 2: do and how they want to use and deploy their players.
Speaker 2: I mean, like Travis Hunter is probably the biggest example.
Speaker 2: I feel like all offseason we heard about how he's
Speaker 2: gonna play eighty percent of snaps on offense, he's barely
Speaker 2: gonna play defense, And here we are three weeks in
Speaker 2: and he's playing more defensively than offensively. So I don't
Speaker 2: I think you don't want to overreact to stuff like that,
Speaker 2: but I do think that it's it's important to adjust
Speaker 2: your prize as you get into information.
Speaker 1: The Hunter thing is it stinks because well, it doesn't
Speaker 1: stink because Jack, This wouldn't surprise me at all. In fact,
Speaker 1: I think it might still be the most likely outcome
Speaker 1: with Hunter is you know, I he ends up being
Speaker 1: like a typical rookie receiver where he doesn't offer a
Speaker 1: whole lot in September and October. But once we get
Speaker 1: into the you know, November Thanksgiving fantasy playoffs, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, this you know, things could just click for
Speaker 1: this guy. And he's got this uber athleticism and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden he's looking like a potential league winner,
Speaker 1: which is why I'm not selling on him in redraft
Speaker 1: leagues right now. I'm holding on to him because I
Speaker 1: think the best is yet well, the best better be
Speaker 1: yet to come with Hunter, because I haven't seen a
Speaker 1: whole lot of it, but that's my stance on it.
Speaker 1: But right now, you're right. I mean, it's just, you know,
Speaker 1: as much as we were excited to see Travis Hunter
Speaker 1: and and and you know catching balls from Lawrence sort
Speaker 1: of that whole Jacksonville passing offense. God, we could do
Speaker 1: two hours on that. With with what a train wreck
Speaker 1: that's been so far this year. We will get into
Speaker 1: part of it later on on the show tonight. We
Speaker 1: will go around the NFL. In the first segment tonight,
Speaker 1: Jack and I will we'll be talking about the Kansas
Speaker 1: City pass catchers, especially with the news on Xavier Worthy.
Speaker 1: Some injuries that we need to get into. Ceedee Lamb replacements. Obviously,
Speaker 1: we want to figure out what Jack thinks about Amar
Speaker 1: and Hampton now that Naji Harris is out for the year,
Speaker 1: and what are we doing with Cam Scataboo with Tyrone
Speaker 1: Tracy expected to miss a few weeks. That's the first
Speaker 1: segment Tonight. We'll get into our Thursday night football preview
Speaker 1: Seahawks and Cardinals on Prime Video tonight. Zach Charbonae breaking
Speaker 1: news he is active tonight to maybe no one's surprised,
Speaker 1: but how does that affect Kenneth Walker. We'll get into that.
Speaker 1: Trey Benson is he a bellcow? I know Jack has
Speaker 1: some thoughts on this, and we'll get into that as
Speaker 1: well in the second segment. Final segment, we'll do Starters
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Speaker 1: a jack. The first thing I want to lead off
Speaker 1: with tonight Jacory krossky Merritt. He missed Wednesday's practice. I
Speaker 1: do believe, and have to look this up right now.
Speaker 1: I do believe he missed practice again today for the Commanders,
Speaker 1: which is not great when you consider that this is
Speaker 1: a player that a lot of people were excited about.
Speaker 1: A lot of people were planning on flexing him out
Speaker 1: this week and they can't flex him out if he's inactive.
Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on a guy who
Speaker 1: is not practiced too games. This are two days this week,
Speaker 1: and then if he is inactive against the Falcons this week. Jack,
Speaker 1: Are you team Jeremy McNichols, Are you team Chris Rodriguez?
Speaker 1: Or are you team? Don't start any Commanders running backs
Speaker 1: in Week four.
Speaker 2: I think if jacm misses I I would prefer not
Speaker 2: to start either of them. But if I had to choose,
Speaker 2: it would be Chris Rodriguez. I think he'd be a
Speaker 2: heavy favorite to inherit most of the rushing work. Jeremy
Speaker 2: Jeremy McNichols seems like he's more in the Austin Eckler role.
Speaker 2: If Jacorey krossky Merit does play, I mean, it might
Speaker 2: be even worse just for all of them, just because
Speaker 2: then you have McNichols still in the Eckler pass catching role,
Speaker 2: and you've got Chris Rodriguez and JCM splitting the carriers.
Speaker 2: We saw last week Chris Rodriguez came after being a
Speaker 2: healthy scratch the first two weeks, and he out carried
Speaker 2: Bill akrossky Merit eleven to eight, just out of the blue,
Speaker 2: after there was hype going into week three about the
Speaker 2: Commanders expanding Jacory krossky Merit's roll. Cliff Kingsbury has said
Speaker 2: some stuff along the lines if he needs to be
Speaker 2: better without the ball. We like what he can do
Speaker 2: with the ball in his hands, but the pass pro,
Speaker 2: the route running, all the stuff that the rookie running
Speaker 2: backs sometimes don't have right off the bat, he needs
Speaker 2: to improve. So I think Jacorey Krosky Merritt is a
Speaker 2: pretty good example of a rookie we can expect to
Speaker 2: grow into a large role throughout the season, but I
Speaker 2: think in the short term he's pretty tough to trust
Speaker 2: with Washington using a three man backfield.
Speaker 1: Do you think he's the type of player that, you
Speaker 1: know what I just brought up with with Travis Hunter,
Speaker 1: where the game slows down, stuff clicks for him in
Speaker 1: the second half of the season, where and I know,
Speaker 1: like the other thing too is like Hunter if he
Speaker 1: ends up turning it on. You know, he's fighting with
Speaker 1: guys like Diami Brown. He's fighting with guys like you know,
Speaker 1: Parker Washington or what have you, a guy that players
Speaker 1: that do not have his talent level Krosskey Merritt. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you could make the same case because
Speaker 1: he was a seventh round pick with McNichols and Rodriguez,
Speaker 1: I can't remember. It might have been unestablished. It might
Speaker 1: have been Levitan who actually said this. I could be
Speaker 1: wrong about If Krossky Merrick can't fight off these guys
Speaker 1: by like November, then maybe he's just not very good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a good way to look at it.
Speaker 2: I do think that he's a pretty prime candidate to
Speaker 2: expand his role as the season goes on, just because
Speaker 2: we already know who Jeremy McNichols is at this stage
Speaker 2: of his career. He's he's nothing specially as a fine
Speaker 2: pass protector, a fine pass catcher, but he's nothing no
Speaker 2: one that should prevent a talented rookie running back from
Speaker 2: taking on a larger role. Now, the question is, like
Speaker 2: you said, is jcm that kind that level of talent
Speaker 2: where he can push McNichols to the side. And then
Speaker 2: with Chris Rodriguez, I mean we've kind of already seen
Speaker 2: what Washington thinks of him. They made him a healthy
Speaker 2: scratch weeks one and two. It's pretty clear to me
Speaker 2: that they don't see him as their long term answer
Speaker 2: at running back. But again, it's it's kind of just
Speaker 2: the question of is Jacry Kraskimeric good enough? Can he
Speaker 2: win the coaches trust? Fast enough to really push those
Speaker 2: guys to decide and earn the three down every one
Speaker 2: role that I think fantasy managers all want.
Speaker 1: I want to move on to Isaiah Likely here, a
Speaker 1: player that many people in the FFPC drafted late and
Speaker 1: have rostered since then. I think in non tight end
Speaker 1: premium leagues, you still might be able to pick this
Speaker 1: guy up, but maybe not. It's tough to say. He
Speaker 1: was limited and yesterday's walk through practice for the Ravens
Speaker 1: dealing with the foot injury. Obviously, he's still not gotten
Speaker 1: into a game this season. Limited practice for him prior
Speaker 1: to the Lions game on Monday Night Football last week,
Speaker 1: and he's limited on the first injury report of the week.
Speaker 1: Here he is I don't know. I hesitate to say
Speaker 1: this on a Thursday afternoon, Thursday evening. He's probably going
Speaker 1: to play in Week four, but god, I don't know
Speaker 1: if he is active. It's going to be interesting for
Speaker 1: people who have not only Likely Jack, but Mark Andrews
Speaker 1: as well, who came back from the dead. In one
Speaker 1: of my local fantasy football show. He was my bust
Speaker 1: of the week for Week three and he has his
Speaker 1: best you know performance since Obama was president. Essentially, it
Speaker 1: was insane what he did on Monday Night football. And
Speaker 1: you look at Likely, who's a super talented guy, a
Speaker 1: player that his own coach said his expectation is for
Speaker 1: Likely to be an All Pro this season, which is
Speaker 1: tough to do. Not a Pro bowler and all Pro.
Speaker 1: If you're looking at what to do at tight end
Speaker 1: with the Ravens comes Sunday this week against Kansas City,
Speaker 1: if Likely is active, would you feel okay about flexing
Speaker 1: either of these players? Again, an FFPC tight end premium leagues,
Speaker 1: would you feel okay about flexing either of these players?
Speaker 1: Or are you really really rolling the dice if you
Speaker 1: want to insert either one of these guys into your
Speaker 1: starting lineup in Week four?
Speaker 2: I think it's much more of a dice roll on Likely,
Speaker 2: who I still like long term. I liked him a
Speaker 2: lot more last week when it looked like Mark Andrews
Speaker 2: was kind of dusted on his Week three performance, I
Speaker 2: was kind of in a similar boat.
Speaker 3: I really was not expecting that.
Speaker 2: I thought maybe it was it was basically over for
Speaker 2: Andrews and it was going to be Likely's role when
Speaker 2: whenever he got back. I do think it's really tough
Speaker 2: to start a guy like Likely in his first game
Speaker 2: back he missed. He's missed two months at this point.
Speaker 2: I think that's too significant of time for you to
Speaker 2: immediately thrust them in your starting lineup. Andrews I expect
Speaker 2: to be the tight end one this week, even if
Speaker 2: Likely is active, and I do think he'll be active.
Speaker 2: I kind of thought he'd be active for last week,
Speaker 2: to be honest, but I do think long term, I
Speaker 2: would prefer like the upside of Likely over someone like Andrews.
Speaker 1: Do you believe? I mean, like, how much did you
Speaker 1: change your mind about Andrews after what you saw on
Speaker 1: Monday night? A little somewhat, not not at all? How
Speaker 1: do you feel about like, what what is your outlook
Speaker 1: on Mark? You just said you know you prefer Likely, obviously,
Speaker 1: but has your outlook changed on the dustiness of Mark
Speaker 1: Andrews after Monday night football?
Speaker 2: Honestly it has. I just didn't think he still had
Speaker 2: that kind of ceiling left uh in the chamber at
Speaker 2: his age, and it is kind of interesting. We saw
Speaker 2: him start slow last year too, although that was kind
Speaker 2: of more explainable after he had an offseason car crash.
Speaker 2: But again, us let's start this offseason or this season,
Speaker 2: and then he kind of gets into the groove in
Speaker 2: Week three. So it did change my opinion just seeing
Speaker 2: him flash that ceiling that we've seen before from Mark Andrews.
Speaker 1: You know, we got a little bit of breaking news
Speaker 1: here regarding a stud wide receiver. I'm gonna get to
Speaker 1: that in a second, but I do want to answer
Speaker 1: some of these questions here. We'll go on YouTube first.
Speaker 1: Jacob Ander wants to know Jack he's in a six
Speaker 1: point per touchdown passing league and he's got to decide
Speaker 1: between Geno Smith or Kyler Murray this week. Obviously, Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray on Thursday Night Football tonight at home against the
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. Gino Smith at home against the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1: I just I continue to be underwhelmed by Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: I think, and we'll talk about the Seattle defense here
Speaker 1: coming up, but I think this is a bad matchup
Speaker 1: for Murray. Whereas I could see a lot of points
Speaker 1: scored in that Raiders Bears game. I think I leaned
Speaker 1: towards Smith here, and maybe it's recency bias that's affecting me.
Speaker 1: The way that Smith was bombing the ball down the
Speaker 1: field to Trey Tucker, but I think he can have
Speaker 1: successful performance against the Bears on Sunday as well, So
Speaker 1: I lean towards Geno Smith here over Kyler Murray.
Speaker 2: I think I lean Kyler with the rushing upside. But
Speaker 2: I'm trying to pull up our projections really quick. We
Speaker 2: have it very close. We have them zero point two
Speaker 2: points apart in our ETR projections, So a very good
Speaker 2: question to ask. We do have Kyler slightly ahead, so
Speaker 2: kyleen Kyler.
Speaker 1: So Murray slightly ahead there, and we'll see. I just
Speaker 1: I'll bring this up to not that this isn't just
Speaker 1: like the end all be all, but I always like
Speaker 1: to look at the totals on these games, and obviously
Speaker 1: the spreads forty three and a half tonight with the
Speaker 1: Cardinals a one and a half point home underdog, and
Speaker 1: then if you go to that Bears Raiders game that
Speaker 1: is in the four to twenty five window, forty seven
Speaker 1: and a half with the Raiders one and a half point.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it's very close. This is why
Speaker 1: he's asking us, because it's a coin flip. Here ETR
Speaker 1: is saying go with Kyler Murray, Bulky is saying go
Speaker 1: with Gino Smith, So I know which way I would
Speaker 1: lean on that, and you probably know which way you
Speaker 1: should lean on that too. A Manster twenty three yo.
Speaker 1: Do I trade K nine for BTJ PPR. My running
Speaker 1: backs are McCaffrey, Walker and Trede Benson. My wide receivers
Speaker 1: are Justin Jefferson, Davante, Adams, Chris o'loba, and a Mecca
Speaker 1: ag Buka. I lean sort of against this. It seems
Speaker 1: like your wide receivers are pretty deep right now. You
Speaker 1: got four really good ones there, and if you trade Walker,
Speaker 1: you're adding Brian Thomas into that fray, and then you're
Speaker 1: down to Christian McCaffrey and trade Benson. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I want to roll that way. I think you
Speaker 1: have good balance right now, So I would keep Walker,
Speaker 1: McCaffrey and Benson, Keith, Jefferson, Adams, o'labby and a Book
Speaker 1: at receiver. I would well, I do think Thomas is
Speaker 1: a strong by low right now. Jack, I think for
Speaker 1: this situation I would be against this trade.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I prefer Brian Thomas in a vacuum, but I
Speaker 2: do think with this team it depends a little bit
Speaker 2: on how many receivers you can start if you can
Speaker 2: start for if this is the one of the like
Speaker 2: f FPC two flex where you can start four receivers,
Speaker 2: I kind of still lean Brian Thomas Junior to be honest,
Speaker 2: but I think with this specific team it is pretty
Speaker 2: close because you do have that wide receiver depth as
Speaker 2: you mentioned, and you'd be pretty It depends on also
Speaker 2: who your current RB four is. If you don't have
Speaker 2: a viable current RB four, who would become your third
Speaker 2: running back without locker, then that makes it kind of
Speaker 2: a tough tougher proposition.
Speaker 1: Two flex two wide receiver format there for a Manster
Speaker 1: twenty three. So thank you for that. Hopefully we helped
Speaker 1: you out. We'll go on X right now, Kyle Burr,
Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs or Evan Engrim at the flex. Evan Ingram
Speaker 1: did indeed return to practice this week, which is a
Speaker 1: good thing, as Martha Stewart would say, But I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's going to have many good things this
Speaker 1: week in fantasy. I know it's a really good matchup
Speaker 1: with the Bengals, but you know, you're looking at the
Speaker 1: second straight week of no Jaden Reid against one of
Speaker 1: the worst passing defenses in the NFL, even in tight
Speaker 1: end premium. I don't know if I could pull the
Speaker 1: trigger on Ingram over Dobbs if it's non tight end premium.
Speaker 1: Jack Dobbs is an easy call for me here over
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's Dobs pretty comfortably too. I mean
Speaker 2: Evan Ingram, he's one of these guys where if the
Speaker 2: Broncos get in positive game script, Sean Payton prefers to
Speaker 2: play Adam Troutman, and the Broncos are seven point favorites
Speaker 2: over Jake Browning. So I think this could be a
Speaker 2: floor game for Ingram with the with the game script
Speaker 2: we're expecting. So I'm going Dobbs here.
Speaker 1: Coo on YouTube right now. Just made a trade. This
Speaker 1: is an interesting one. He got Jon Robinson. He gave
Speaker 1: up Kyron Williams, Davante Adams, and Roma Doonsay, so you
Speaker 1: got the best player in the trade, but you did
Speaker 1: pay the iron price for it. Here he gets all
Speaker 1: I'm beg your pardon. He gets Brian Thomas Junior back
Speaker 1: as well. He has Jonathan Taylor, Justin Jefferson, Drake London.
Speaker 1: I think we're split, and he's also got Trade Benson.
Speaker 1: We're we're splitting hairs here a little bit. You can
Speaker 1: make the case that you're maybe selling high on Romo
Speaker 1: Dunzan and perhaps DeVante Adams as well. Kyraen Williams too.
Speaker 1: I think that with the Blake Korum time share that
Speaker 1: they have going on there, which is, you know, splitting
Speaker 1: what seventy five twenty five seventy thirty, and that's what
Speaker 1: Sean McVay says that he wants it to be at.
Speaker 1: This could be the last week that you could sell
Speaker 1: high on Kyraen Williams. It's tough to say. I don't
Speaker 1: think you lost the trade. I don't think he necessarily
Speaker 1: won the trade. It's close. Jack. I don't really have
Speaker 1: strong feelings on this. I think I think it's fine,
Speaker 1: and usually I give the advantage to the player that
Speaker 1: gets the best asset in the deal, and in this case,
Speaker 1: I do believe it's John Robinson.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I prefer the Bejon side slightly.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's agreedious on either side, but I
Speaker 2: prefer getting Bejon. I think Brian Thomas Junior sends it
Speaker 2: over the top a little bit. If if you didn't
Speaker 2: get back Brian Thomas Junior or got back a much
Speaker 2: lesser receiver. I'd like the three pieces, but with I
Speaker 2: mean Jon and Ryan and Brian Thomas are both, in
Speaker 2: my opinion, pretty high end started, so I like getting
Speaker 2: both of them.
Speaker 1: Our GQ on YouTube. I need help starting. This is
Speaker 1: a half point PPR format, a flex, two running backs,
Speaker 1: three receivers. So you're looking at Saint Brown, Nico Collins,
Speaker 1: Roma Dunse, Keenan Allen, and Quentin Johnston. So let's tackle
Speaker 1: that first. We got to bench two of those guys
Speaker 1: in good conscience, I can't really bench any of the
Speaker 1: first three, so I guess I have to sit Keenan Allen,
Speaker 1: I have to sit Quenton Johnston. Is that the way
Speaker 1: you see it, too, Jack.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got a flex here, so we can come
Speaker 2: back to Keithan and QJ. But I think for the
Speaker 2: three wide receivers, it's got to be Aman, Nico, and Rome.
Speaker 1: So half point PPR. Let's look at the running backs.
Speaker 1: We got to pick two of these for him here tonight,
Speaker 1: Kyron Williams, I still think like this week, you probably
Speaker 1: still got to get him in your lineup. And then
Speaker 1: it gets a little messy between Hubbard, Benson, Judkins and Pacheco.
Speaker 1: It's close between Hubbard and Benson. I think I leaned
Speaker 1: Benson here as the second running back to go with
Speaker 1: Kien Williams.
Speaker 2: A lean Benson and Kiren too. I agree, it's very
Speaker 2: close between Benson and Cuba. I really couldn't blame you
Speaker 2: if you went the other way, but I slightly lean Benson.
Speaker 1: For me, the flex comes down to Hubbard and then
Speaker 1: obviously one of these chiefs receivers, probably Keenan Allen. For me,
Speaker 1: I guess my flex is probably Keenan Allen over Johnston
Speaker 1: and Uh and Hubb I beg your pardon, yeah, and Hubbard.
Speaker 1: I think the flex is probably Keenan Allen for me.
Speaker 1: The Chargers get to go to travel to the Giants
Speaker 1: this week, that's who they play, and then Hubbard Cuba.
Speaker 1: Hubbard this week is up against Oh god, I just haded.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Hubbard is playing the Yeah exactly, So I
Speaker 1: roll with Keenan Allen here as the flex.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really close between Keenan and Tuba. For me,
Speaker 2: I think I'm with you. I think I'm going Keenan Allen.
Speaker 2: The volume is just so good right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is this is a good problem
Speaker 1: to have, and obviously you're gonna you're gonna be happy
Speaker 1: you have this depth once the bye week's hit, which
Speaker 1: I think they start next week, right, Jack, do you know?
Speaker 1: Do you know off the end?
Speaker 2: I don't know offhand, but I think it usually starts
Speaker 2: Week five, So that's not right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm looking at it right now. Week five
Speaker 1: is when it starts with Atlanta, Chicago, Green Bay, and
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh all on by. So that's next week. We'll we'll
Speaker 1: tackle Week four this week when everybody's got still a
Speaker 1: really good team and you don't have to worry about
Speaker 1: replacements in that lineup. Permar ninety nine. Our good buddy
Speaker 1: is uh Is. He needs one from Matthew Golden, Jamison Williams,
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry. He's leaning towards Golden here and and I listen,
Speaker 1: who am I to say, don't start a Packers receiver
Speaker 1: against the Dallas Cowboys defense. So I get it. If
Speaker 1: it is tight end premium, I think that you are
Speaker 1: looking at a situation where it becomes much closer. If
Speaker 1: it's non tight end premium. God, you know you throw
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams into this too, Jack, This get this gets
Speaker 1: really Dicey. The Lions are coming off the short the
Speaker 1: short week obviously, as they played Monday night football in
Speaker 1: Baltimore against the Ravens. Got I think, you know, as
Speaker 1: much as I love Golden, I think I might like
Speaker 1: Jamis and Williams here better. Uh. And then if it's
Speaker 1: tight end premium, it's Henry non tight end premium, I
Speaker 1: think it's it's Williams. I don't know, how are you
Speaker 1: seeing this? This is this has got me, This has
Speaker 1: got me twisted a little bit.
Speaker 2: I think this is another one that's that's really close.
Speaker 2: I think I I think it's Jamo if it's not
Speaker 2: tight end premium. If it is tight end premium, I
Speaker 2: think it's really close between Jmo and Henry. It's not premium.
Speaker 3: I probably go.
Speaker 2: I probably go Jamo there if picking one, If picking two,
Speaker 2: it's Jamo and Golden. Uh.
Speaker 1: So there you go. Hopefully that helps you out, Permart,
Speaker 1: and we will be answering more starting said questions throughout
Speaker 1: the next couple of segments on the show. Jack Kamiller
Speaker 1: and from established a run joining us tonight on the
Speaker 1: show I want on the FFPC Insider Access Show. We
Speaker 1: have to talk about the Chiefs receivers, because this is
Speaker 1: a little confounding here as we try to figure this
Speaker 1: out for a four to twenty five game, correct me
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. No, for twenty five game between Baltimore
Speaker 1: and Kansas City, and we don't know exactly what's going
Speaker 1: on with Xavier Worthy. However, if we read between the lines,
Speaker 1: if we are reading the tea leaves, we could probably,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say safely assume, but I think
Speaker 1: we can assume that Worthy is going to be going
Speaker 1: against Baltimore on Sunday afternoon. Had a shoulder injury caused
Speaker 1: by one Travis Kelce in week one. He practiced the
Speaker 1: following week, but this is actually today was his first
Speaker 1: full practice since he injured his shoulder. The concern I
Speaker 1: have here is the early reporting that came out on
Speaker 1: this Jack was that he is to be used as
Speaker 1: a decoy. Like you often don't hear reporting like I
Speaker 1: think it was Nate Taylor from ESPN saying he's going
Speaker 1: to be out there, but he's going to be limited.
Speaker 1: He's going to be used as a decoy, which is
Speaker 1: kind of a weird thing to say. Sometimes we hear
Speaker 1: that a player is active and he's going to be
Speaker 1: out there, but we don't hear that he's going to
Speaker 1: be used as a decoy until we actually see it
Speaker 1: with our own eyes. In regards to Xavier Worthy this week,
Speaker 1: this not only affects him, This affects Travis Kelce, this
Speaker 1: affects Hollywood Brown as well. What do you think is
Speaker 1: going to happen? And knowing what we know publicly about
Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy's shoulder, what is the proper way to handle
Speaker 1: guys like Kelsey Brown and Worthy in your lineups? With
Speaker 1: a late start on Sunday afternoon?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hoping we get more information between now and
Speaker 2: twelve pm Sunday. Right now, after a full practice, I
Speaker 2: think it's fine to plan to start Worthy. We don't
Speaker 2: really see a lot of guys fully practice and then
Speaker 2: go in to a less than a significantly less than
Speaker 2: normal role. And given that Worthy seemed to have some
Speaker 2: chance of playing last week, I guess the extra week
Speaker 2: and I mean this is a huge game for Kansas City.
Speaker 2: I guess that they try to get everything they can
Speaker 2: out of him. I mean, Kelsey's been really disappointing from
Speaker 2: a basically every perspective you want to look at his
Speaker 2: target chairs down. Even though he has less competition than
Speaker 2: he had last year, He's doesn't look very productive after
Speaker 2: the catch. He doesn't look like he has the same
Speaker 2: explosiveness he used to. You still have to start him,
Speaker 2: I think, just because he's still a tight end one.
Speaker 2: He's still getting respectable albeit not elite volume. But Worthy's
Speaker 2: gonna get into what decreased target chair he was already
Speaker 2: getting even more. So it's definitely a downgrade soon for
Speaker 2: Marquis Brown. I mean, Juju and Taekwon Thornton are both
Speaker 2: gonna play too, So I think just adding another significant
Speaker 2: piece of the puzzle and Worthy just ticks everyone down
Speaker 2: slightly more.
Speaker 1: You know, we talk about the bad part about it,
Speaker 1: you know, not knowing what to do with Worthy Brown, Calcey,
Speaker 1: you know, you bring up the Thornton aspect as well.
Speaker 1: Maybe this is a good thing for Patrick Mahomes. You know,
Speaker 1: the Ravens have been giving up a lot of points
Speaker 1: this year, and granted they've been playing against some pretty
Speaker 1: tough offenses, but this could be another game where Mahomes
Speaker 1: actually plays really well, and the fact that you're adding
Speaker 1: these extra weapons for him, maybe he becomes a better
Speaker 1: start than Caleb Williams, Drake May, bow Nicks, you know,
Speaker 1: players like this, even Jordan Love against the Cowboys. I
Speaker 1: think there's a conversation to be had with that. But
Speaker 1: to me, this is good news for Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2: Obviously I think so too, but the passing efficiency needs
Speaker 2: to take a significant step up, like it's it's looked
Speaker 2: really bad for the Chiefs passing offense. Mahomes excluding Week three,
Speaker 2: has been really active with his legs, which is huge
Speaker 2: for fantasy, But I don't know. I mean, it's been
Speaker 2: just so bad that I don't know if Xavier Worthy
Speaker 2: can fix it. I think once where the Anracity Raiser back,
Speaker 2: it's gonna look a lot better. But I'm still a
Speaker 2: little skeptical of Mahomes for Week four because we kind
Speaker 2: of saw what it looked like last year in the
Speaker 2: regular season with Worthy, and it wasn't the Mahomes were
Speaker 2: used to seeing by any means.
Speaker 1: I just you know, Mahomes just turned thirty, I think
Speaker 1: before last week, and he's got a lot of good
Speaker 1: football left in him, and I just feel like we're
Speaker 1: still witnessing like the end of this first phase of
Speaker 1: his career. The weapons that he's going to be using.
Speaker 1: I just feel if if Kansas City gets back to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl again, it's gonna be with you know,
Speaker 1: obviously Worthy is gonna be one of them, but they
Speaker 1: need a running back. They need a real running back
Speaker 1: back there. They need a real threat at tight end,
Speaker 1: which they don't have right now with Kelsey, and I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna happen. I just I think this year
Speaker 1: it's going to be a struggle bus for Kansas City
Speaker 1: week in and week out. It's just gonna be one
Speaker 1: of those things you can just never really count on
Speaker 1: based on the level of talent, the age of the
Speaker 1: talent that they have on the squad right now. These
Speaker 1: guys are at in their careers. David and Joku. I
Speaker 1: have not seen what happened in practice today for the Browns,
Speaker 1: but he was limited yesterday. He normally is on the
Speaker 1: injury report for Cleveland. Is not just twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: It happened in twenty twenty four, twenty twenty three, you know,
Speaker 1: going back, and he gets the Lions this week, which
Speaker 1: granted their defense. I picked up in a lot of
Speaker 1: leagues last night.
Speaker 3: Jack.
Speaker 1: I think they're a solid streamer obviously against Cleveland, but
Speaker 1: I do think In Djoko could could do some damage.
Speaker 1: He had five catches last week, it's the most he's
Speaker 1: had all season, and forty yards, which was also the
Speaker 1: most he's had all season. Obviously, Harold Fannin is gumming
Speaker 1: up the works here a little bit. But if you
Speaker 1: look at in Djoku and tight end premium leagues, I
Speaker 1: think he's a slam dunk start. Whether you're looking at
Speaker 1: flex or your tight end non tight end premium leagues,
Speaker 1: I think it gets a little bit dicey. I don't
Speaker 1: know if we're seeing a changing of the garden Cleveland
Speaker 1: right now, but certainly for fantasy. When I thought about
Speaker 1: Fannin and Inn Djoku and where they would be at
Speaker 1: in regards to production at this point of the season,
Speaker 1: I did not view them as this close together. They're
Speaker 1: almost coin flips on a week to week basis of
Speaker 1: who's going to do better, and I don't really have
Speaker 1: a good way of predicting it between in Djoku and Fanin.
Speaker 1: How do you view this situation?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the snaps and routes are still good for in
Speaker 2: Djoku in terms, he's still running a lot of routes.
Speaker 2: The targets are down. I think last year, he was
Speaker 2: around a twenty percent target share. This year, through three games,
Speaker 2: he's at fourteen percent. Fin is also at fourteen percent,
Speaker 2: even though he's playing a little less. It really seems
Speaker 2: like the Browns are making a concerted effort to get
Speaker 2: him the ball when he is on the field. And
Speaker 2: that's pretty bad news for Enjoku. It's it's also bad
Speaker 2: news for Jerry Judy and Cedric Tillman, really all all
Speaker 2: of the Browns pass cutchers that have such a significant
Speaker 2: threat added to the mix. I do still agree with
Speaker 2: you that, I mean, this is a game. The Browns
Speaker 2: are going to be throwing a ton. They're nine and
Speaker 2: a half point underdogs the Lions. We know Joe Flaco
Speaker 2: is gonna and in Djoku's still out there enough. He's
Speaker 2: still getting enough targets to be a viable play in
Speaker 2: tight end premium league leagues. I think in non tight
Speaker 2: end premium leagues he's clearly not a flex option. I
Speaker 2: think he's a pretty low end starting option. But I
Speaker 2: do think that a lot of people probably don't have
Speaker 2: much better options in non tight end premium leagues, and
Speaker 2: so it's fine to trot him out there. He's not
Speaker 2: someone you're going to be super excited to start every week,
Speaker 2: but he's a he's a viable option.
Speaker 1: Sean Angel coming through for us as a night our producer,
Speaker 1: saying that in Djoku did get in a full practice today,
Speaker 1: which is good. Coming up on that game against the
Speaker 1: Lions this week. That Browns Lions total is at forty
Speaker 1: four and a half, which is interesting. I thought it'd
Speaker 1: be a little bit higher, but maybe they're just not
Speaker 1: giving the Cleveland offense enough credit. Ten point favorites are
Speaker 1: the Lions in the Motor City at one pm on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Brock Perty, what a ride it's been so far for
Speaker 1: him this season. David Lombardi reporting that John Lynch saying
Speaker 1: he looked really good in practice yesterday, and it certainly
Speaker 1: seems Jack that we are going to see Brock Purty
Speaker 1: back on the gridiron this week. Mac Jones reaggravated a
Speaker 1: knee injury that he suffered in preseason, So now all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Perty is the more healthy quarterback between
Speaker 1: the two. This is the Jacksonville Jaguars that he is
Speaker 1: going to be throwing against this week. I would imagine
Speaker 1: that you want to keep Perty upright as much as possible.
Speaker 1: Probably no Bosa for the forty nine ers, so maybe
Speaker 1: this makes it. I don't want to say a shootout
Speaker 1: because I think both teams are going to be running
Speaker 1: the football a lot. Obviously, the Niners know where their
Speaker 1: bread is buttered with Christian McCaffrey, and the Jaguars ground
Speaker 1: game has been much more successful in moving the football
Speaker 1: downfield rather than the passing game so far this season.
Speaker 1: But brock Perdy certainly a decent matchup for him, even
Speaker 1: missing the time. Does he slay it in as a
Speaker 1: starter for you right away? Do you have any qualms
Speaker 1: about it?
Speaker 2: I'd be a little cautious with what the rushing workload's
Speaker 2: going to look like with the tow injury. I've just
Speaker 2: right enough online about this kind of toe injury where
Speaker 2: it seems like it could impact him from a rushing standpoint.
Speaker 2: He quietly was scrambling a ton last year and so
Speaker 2: that was a pretty big part of his game, So
Speaker 2: it would be unfortunate for fantasy purposes if that is
Speaker 2: dialed back a little bit. I've also seen a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff about the Jaguars defense being a potentially bad matchup.
Speaker 2: I'm a little less worried about that just because I
Speaker 2: want to see the Jaguars do it against someone that's
Speaker 2: not the Panthers Jake Browning or this Texans offense that
Speaker 2: hasn't really moved the ball against anyone.
Speaker 3: So I'm not.
Speaker 2: Super worried about the matchup. I would be a little
Speaker 2: bit worried about the toe injury limiting his rushing, but
Speaker 2: I do think he's still I mean, this is a
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan offense. They're going to be super efficient. We'll
Speaker 2: see if Juwon Jennings plays. I don't think we know
Speaker 2: on that yet. But regardless, I think Purty should still
Speaker 2: be his usual efficient self. It's just maybe the rushing
Speaker 2: isn't quite at the standard we're used to.
Speaker 1: Would you play Kyler Murray over Brock Party then tonight?
Speaker 1: I would, yeah, Jared goff over over over Brock Party.
Speaker 3: I think so. But that one's yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: So, okay. And then the last one here, well, no,
Speaker 1: that's a dumb one because if jayde Daniels is active,
Speaker 1: you're going to play him. What about Matthew Stafford against
Speaker 1: the Colts versus Brock Party.
Speaker 3: I think I'd probably lean Party there.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I want to go back to twitch
Speaker 1: here chance f twenty thousand. I think it's twenty thousand
Speaker 1: if I'm reading that correctly. He wants to know should
Speaker 1: he start, and I would say he could be she
Speaker 1: as well DeAndre Swift at Las Vegas or his other
Speaker 1: option or her other option, Chase Brown at Denver. And
Speaker 1: this was not even a question a month ago. But now,
Speaker 1: given the quarterback situation in Cincinnati, and given DeAndre Swift
Speaker 1: seemingly fending off Roshawn Johnson seemingly offending off uh Kyle
Speaker 1: manungai Uh, this is a situation that we have to
Speaker 1: weigh in on here. I still lean Brown. I'm not
Speaker 1: there yet. I know there's a lot of people down
Speaker 1: on Brown after the Burrow injury and after what we
Speaker 1: saw against Minnesota last week, but I'm still trotting him
Speaker 1: out there, even in Denver against a pretty tough defense
Speaker 1: over DeAndre Swift, who's at Las Vegas. Jack.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still team Brown too, especially I mean some
Speaker 2: pins banged up. I haven't seen anything yet on whether
Speaker 2: he's gonna play. I think he's expected to play, but
Speaker 2: if Pieran doesn't play, that would mean Chase Brown also
Speaker 2: gets the third down steps. But even if per EN's in,
Speaker 2: I think I think you still got Chase Brown. The
Speaker 2: volume is just so good. I know, he's been absolutely
Speaker 2: horrific from a from an efficiency standpoint, and I mean,
Speaker 2: we really can't expect that to get a whole lot
Speaker 2: better with Jake Browning at quarterback against this Broncos defense.
Speaker 2: But volume is still king in fantasy football, and so
Speaker 2: I'm going Chase Brown Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know, I just I look at do you
Speaker 1: have any metrics? Did you look this up? I don't
Speaker 1: have anything. What did Jake Browning do back in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three in regards to throwing the running backs? You
Speaker 1: recall offhand, I know when Chase was healthy, he was
Speaker 1: pumping the ball to Chase. I know when Chase wasn't healthy,
Speaker 1: he was pumping the ball to Higgins. I really don't
Speaker 1: remember what he was doing with running backs, if he
Speaker 1: was checking down to them at all, because that's something
Speaker 1: that you know, even though Joe Burrow is awesome all
Speaker 1: world quarterback, he still got Chase and Chase brown involved
Speaker 1: in the passing game. And I wonder if that's going
Speaker 1: to be the case for Brown with Browning going forward. Here.
Speaker 1: Part of the reason we like brown so much is
Speaker 1: the pass catching and if he's not getting that with Browning,
Speaker 1: then we have to reevaluate.
Speaker 2: I think I don't want to be quoted on this
Speaker 2: because I could be wrong. I think Browning threw to
Speaker 2: running backs a pretty good amount. I know he threw
Speaker 2: the tight ends a ton when he started in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three running backs. I think he threw slightly more
Speaker 2: than the Bengals were without Jake Browning. But I could
Speaker 2: be wrong on that.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious offhand, and that's something that we could
Speaker 1: check out later on. But I do think that's worth
Speaker 1: revisiting here. Okay, let's go with Joshua Mogard on YouTube
Speaker 1: right now. He's got a flex out one of these players,
Speaker 1: Ladd McConkie, Chris o'lave, Trey Benson. Olave been very involved
Speaker 1: in the passing game with New Orleans, and he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to be again this week because I think there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of throwing for Spencer Rattler. Bills
Speaker 1: are like sixteen seventeen point favorites in that game at
Speaker 1: Orchard Park. You have Trey Benson obviously tonight, who may
Speaker 1: or may not be the bell Coow. Certainly he's gonna
Speaker 1: get a lot more work in Week four than what
Speaker 1: he did in Week three against Seattam. And then Ladd McConkie,
Speaker 1: who's been the victim of being on a really good
Speaker 1: passing team, Herbert and the Chargers probably airing out more
Speaker 1: than I expected so far this season. Jack. I also
Speaker 1: didn't expect Keenan Allen to be this heavily involved, and
Speaker 1: Quentin Johnston to be, you know, have this magnet to
Speaker 1: the end zone. He's been very, very good so far
Speaker 1: this year. So this is this is a tough call.
Speaker 1: If you can only play one of these for me,
Speaker 1: I guess I'd probably eliminate Alave. And this comes down,
Speaker 1: uh to McConkie and Benson. Is the volume for Benson
Speaker 1: enough for you to say that you're going to give
Speaker 1: him the nod over mconkie? How would you? What would
Speaker 1: you tell Joshua Mogard here?
Speaker 2: Yeah, My gut take was lad And then I looked
Speaker 2: at our projections and we actually have him last of
Speaker 2: the three, which surprised me a little bit. We have
Speaker 2: Trey Benson first, so I he would have been second
Speaker 2: for me just on gut take, And I think I'll
Speaker 2: lean into the numbers here and go with Trey Benson.
Speaker 1: Is there something to be said for as Permar brings
Speaker 1: this up here, when you consider the upside of Jackson Dart,
Speaker 1: who was named the starter this week for New York,
Speaker 1: getting the throw to theo Johnson Malik Neighbors, you know,
Speaker 1: Darius Slayton getting camp Scataboo out of the backfield as well.
Speaker 1: Is there something to be said for Star Dart in
Speaker 1: that game against the Chargers over Jayden Daniels, who's hobbled
Speaker 1: and who may be in a lower scoring game there.
Speaker 1: If Daniels is active, is he a slam dunk play
Speaker 1: over Dart Or is there a nuanced decision in this
Speaker 1: that maybe Dart would be the better play over Daniels,
Speaker 1: who's still dealing with a knee injury.
Speaker 2: If Jadan Daniels is active, I'm definitely starting him over Dart.
Speaker 2: Dart definitely has a lot of upside, but I think
Speaker 2: this is just a tough spot for him, going against
Speaker 2: a really good defense at Jesse Menzer coach defense in
Speaker 2: his first career start. I like the upside, but I mean,
Speaker 2: we're talking about a guy who admittedly is not healthy,
Speaker 2: but when he's healthy, He's a top five fantasy quarterback.
Speaker 2: I think it's it's it's too it's too aggressive to
Speaker 2: throw Jackson Dart in the same conversation that quickly.
Speaker 1: In Cognito TK on YouTube, this is an interesting one.
Speaker 1: He has the opportunity to part with Lamar Jackson and
Speaker 1: Zay Flowers in exchange for Kyler Murray, Marvin Harrison Junior,
Speaker 1: and saque Barkley. So you're trading this Baltimore hookup stack
Speaker 1: in exchange for an Arizona one, and you're also getting
Speaker 1: Barkley with that as well. I feel like you are
Speaker 1: buying low on Murray, Harrison, and Barkley right now. You
Speaker 1: may or may not be trading high on Jackson. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like you're probably just getting normal
Speaker 1: value for Zay Jones. Where would you stand in on
Speaker 1: this deal? It's very tempting when you throw Barkley in there.
Speaker 2: Jack Yeah, it's Saquon for me. I definitely like the
Speaker 2: Saquon side.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: I think if you have an opportunity to get Saquon
Speaker 2: and two very viable starters in addition in exchange for
Speaker 2: the Maaron z, I think it's a pretty clear take.
Speaker 1: For me, We'll get into Marvin Harrison in about fifteen
Speaker 1: twenty minutes or so. Because I want to pick your
Speaker 1: brain on that. Let's go with gravity on twitch, picking
Speaker 1: two out of the four here, Metcalf, Harrison, Golden, Coleman.
Speaker 1: He's leaning Golden and Coleman right now. I would lean
Speaker 1: against that. I feel like you gotta get metcalf in there,
Speaker 1: and quite frankly, I think I take Harrison here. I
Speaker 1: think I go Metcalf Harrison over Golden and Coldan. It's weird, Jack,
Speaker 1: I feel like I've spent all week talking up Matthew Golden,
Speaker 1: how he's going to destroy the Cowboys, and yet every
Speaker 1: question I get, I'm saying, now bench Golden. Now, I
Speaker 1: like the other options better. It's weird, but I think
Speaker 1: it's metcalf and Harrison here for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if there's ever a breakout spot for
Speaker 2: Matthew Golden, this is it against this defense that's just
Speaker 2: gotten torn up two weeks in a row. With that
Speaker 2: being said, I'm with you, I'd like to see it
Speaker 2: before I start starting Golden over guys like Metcalfin and
Speaker 2: Harrison Junr as as rough as it has been for
Speaker 2: both of those guys. I still I'm still clinging to
Speaker 2: the prize a little bit and going with Metcalffin and
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison.
Speaker 1: Gravity it's chimed in too. Like you talk about Metcalf,
Speaker 1: he started off the season with a seven target game
Speaker 1: that's has been his most then he followed up with
Speaker 1: six four targets. He gets the vikings on Sunday. He
Speaker 1: has had to rely on touchdowns to be Fantasy relevant
Speaker 1: from a weekly, week by week basis. But I would
Speaker 1: counter that saying that Kean Coleman's best game was Week
Speaker 1: one and I don't know if he's been getting targets.
Speaker 1: Matthew Golden, I can guarantee you has not been getting targets,
Speaker 1: like maybe a few more in Week three with no
Speaker 1: Jayden Reid. But I do think the argument that you're
Speaker 1: making with Metcalf, you could make the same argument about Coleman.
Speaker 1: You make the same argument about Golden as well, and
Speaker 1: maybe even Harrison to a certain extent too. But I
Speaker 1: think the upside plays, even though Golden's one of them,
Speaker 1: I think that Metcalf and Harrison is where I would
Speaker 1: roll on this. Okay, let's move back to what did
Speaker 1: I want to talk about Oh. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is great, let's talk about Juwan Jennings right after
Speaker 1: we talk about brock Perty and then we got a
Speaker 1: bunch of questions. It is what it is. We'll go
Speaker 1: back to San Francisco here. In regards to Juwan Jennings,
Speaker 1: who was inactive last week, Jack a guy that was
Speaker 1: very polarizing in rafting season, a guy that we didn't
Speaker 1: know if it was a calf injury, we didn't know,
Speaker 1: if it was a contract, we didn't know if it
Speaker 1: was a combination of the two. And then he sits
Speaker 1: out last week, and Ricky Pearsall has a pretty big
Speaker 1: week and Mac Jones was looking to him early and often.
Speaker 1: This just coming six minutes ago from Demetrius Harvey. Juwan
Speaker 1: Jennings did not practice today for the forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: The reports we got yesterday it seemed like, you know,
Speaker 1: veteran rest, just give him extra day, And now it
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like that's the case at all. He is
Speaker 1: on the injury report officially for the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: today with ankle and shoulder injuries. Right now, if he
Speaker 1: gets in a limited practice tomorrow, yeah, I feel a
Speaker 1: lot more confident about flexing Jennings out. But from what
Speaker 1: I saw last week with Pearsall and I know we're
Speaker 1: going back to brock Purty this week. But Piersall, I
Speaker 1: don't want to say, he looks like the real deal,
Speaker 1: but he looks very, very good, and he's coming into
Speaker 1: a situation or Jennings is coming into a situation where
Speaker 1: he's got to make him know he's sort of got
Speaker 1: to force the issue to get the ball. With Pearsall
Speaker 1: looking so good, I don't feel real good about Jennings
Speaker 1: this week, even if he does get in a limited
Speaker 1: practice tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you can start up yourself for sure.
Speaker 2: Regardless of what happens with Jron, Jennings and Drew On,
Speaker 2: I think a lot comes down to tomorrow. I'm I'm
Speaker 2: a little surprised he's dnped twice in a row. After
Speaker 2: it seemed like he was maybe airing on the side
Speaker 2: of doubtful but at least semi questionable going into last weekend.
Speaker 2: Now it seems like he might be a risk of
Speaker 2: missing a second straight week. I think hopefully we'll get
Speaker 2: a lot more information on his actual health before Locke
Speaker 2: on Sunday. I do think that if he's limited, he's
Speaker 2: a pretty tough start. If we don't get any more information,
Speaker 2: we don't know how much he's gonna play. It seems
Speaker 2: like a more serious injury than we thought maybe at
Speaker 2: this time last week.
Speaker 3: So I'm with you there.
Speaker 1: Our Highland on YouTube PPR Flex League question starter said
Speaker 1: trade Benson, Chris Olave, Matthew Golden or Teteroa McMillan. He
Speaker 1: says he's not sure if he's all in on the
Speaker 1: trade Benson trade and the potential matchup against Dallas is
Speaker 1: tough for him to pass up with Golden, you can
Speaker 1: only pick one of these guys if it's one. To me,
Speaker 1: it's it's not Golden. It comes down to me between
Speaker 1: McMillan and Benson. And I think, again this is full PPR.
Speaker 1: I think I leaned towards McMillan. He practiced yesterday, Did
Speaker 1: he practice today? I think he practiced today. He did
Speaker 1: not practice yesterday with the with the calf issue, which
Speaker 1: I know is always, you know, a difficult thing to to,
Speaker 1: you know, to try to assess when you're looking into,
Speaker 1: you know, how successful a player is going to be
Speaker 1: that week. But I think I would rank a McMillan, Benson,
Speaker 1: Golden o'lave. Here it's close between Golden o'lave as well.
Speaker 1: This is a good problem to have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think of picking one, it's clearly McMillan or Benson.
Speaker 2: This is another one where my first instinct was pretty
Speaker 2: clearly McMillan. But we do have Benson higher once again,
Speaker 2: so I guess, I guess maybe you have to go
Speaker 2: trade Benson. Although honestly, with how good McMillan's looked, I
Speaker 2: know the passing offense as a whole has looked a
Speaker 2: little bit rough at times, but I I'd have a
Speaker 2: really tough time benching Teedoro McMillan.
Speaker 1: War Eagle. Should I trade Nico Collins for Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 1: This is one of those classic questions. Jack. It depends
Speaker 1: what you're running back and receiver. You know, situation looks
Speaker 1: like right in a vacuum, I think I'd rather have
Speaker 1: Collins over Barkley. Your thoughts.
Speaker 2: It definitely comes down the way you need more. I
Speaker 2: think I lean Barkley over Nico. With how poor the
Speaker 2: Texans offense has looked, I know that the Eagles offense
Speaker 2: for the most part, has not looked super inspiring you.
Speaker 2: But we're still talking about a guy who just coming
Speaker 2: off a historic season. So I'm not moving off Saquon
Speaker 2: Barkley that quickly.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are not only going to be having their
Speaker 1: hands full with the Green Bay offense on Sunday Night,
Speaker 1: Football Jack, They're gonna have their hands full with the
Speaker 1: Green Bay defense without at least we think we believe
Speaker 1: without Ceedee Lamb, who did not practice yesterday. I assume
Speaker 1: he did not practice today. It's wild because you know,
Speaker 1: he's been diagnosed and reported as a high ankle sprain,
Speaker 1: and yet he has not been ruled out these high
Speaker 1: ankle sprains. We normally think it's like a month, month
Speaker 1: and a half, and yet we're hanging on pins and
Speaker 1: needles whether Jerry Jones is gonna let us know if
Speaker 1: Lamb practice, like he's not gonna play Sunday Night. In
Speaker 1: the case that he does not practice or does not
Speaker 1: play on Sunday Night, is there another guy besides Pickens,
Speaker 1: besides Ferguson that you can look out flexing, look at Flexing,
Speaker 1: Cavante Turpin, Jalen Tolbert probably the most likely candidates. Maybe
Speaker 1: the question is not oh, who do I start between
Speaker 1: those two guys. Maybe the question is, if you only
Speaker 1: have one roster spot, who's the right guy to roster
Speaker 1: on your team that you can deploy out as a
Speaker 1: flex when the buys hit next week when Ceedee Lamb,
Speaker 1: you know again we think will not be playing for
Speaker 1: a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I only had one roster spot, it would
Speaker 2: be Cavante Turpin. I think Tolbert's gonna play more. I
Speaker 2: think he's I think the Cowboys probably see him as
Speaker 2: a more traditional wide receiver and like sticking him in
Speaker 2: the role vacated by Lamb. But I think we've kind
Speaker 2: of seen what Jalen Tolbert is at this point, whereas
Speaker 2: we haven't really seen the upside of uh of a
Speaker 2: Cavante Turpin. He's really explosive with the ball in the sands.
Speaker 2: We know that from his time returning kicks, and he's
Speaker 2: been a really strong target earner throughout his career. So
Speaker 2: I don't think he's anything resembling a fantasy starter right now,
Speaker 2: but I think that he's probably worth adding and seeing
Speaker 2: if he can grow into more of a full time role,
Speaker 2: And maybe you surp Tulbert for that second outside wide
Speaker 2: receiver role with lamb Out.
Speaker 1: You know, normally I wouldn't bring stuff like this up,
Speaker 1: But when you have a defense as bad as Dallas's is,
Speaker 1: and when you are when you have an offense, seemingly
Speaker 1: that's his talent as the Cowboys, and I know they're
Speaker 1: missing Booker their guard for a while, which is obviously
Speaker 1: gonna hurt Javonte Williams, who's been very, very good this year.
Speaker 1: Prescott's accomplished quarterback. Ferguson and Pickens are legit weapons at
Speaker 1: their respective positions. When you talk about players, are a
Speaker 1: team that can be in shootouts week after week after week.
Speaker 1: Turpin and versus Tolbert, I think is an interesting discussion
Speaker 1: to have as far as which one you want a
Speaker 1: roster and deploy him whoever that player is in the
Speaker 1: right situations here as well, n seven to one to
Speaker 1: two hockey, Hey, guys, would you start Sam Donald tonight
Speaker 1: or Matthew Stafford on Sunday? This is the question that
Speaker 1: is facing him. Donald obviously facing the Cardinals tonight. Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford is at home against the Colts on Sunday. Donald v. Stafford.
Speaker 1: I lean towards old coyote and say Stafford here and
Speaker 1: actually I should bring this up right now too. I
Speaker 1: said I had breaking news before on a on a
Speaker 1: stud receiver, and that receiver was Devonte Adams, and I'm
Speaker 1: trying to find it. Adam schefter Jack Miller has said
Speaker 1: for a second straight day, Davante Adams did not practice
Speaker 1: due to a hamstring injury. So we have to keep
Speaker 1: that into take that into account when we say whether
Speaker 1: we're gonna play Stafford or Donald. I am concerned about Adams,
Speaker 1: a guy who's on the wrong side of thirty, who's
Speaker 1: dealing with a soft tissue injury and specifically a muscle
Speaker 1: that can be tricky for wide receivers. If he doesn't
Speaker 1: practice tomorrow, this is a problem and a bigger problem
Speaker 1: for N seven to one to two hockey. He's got
Speaker 1: to make this decision tonight. Is he benching Stafford for
Speaker 1: Donald against the Cardinals on Thursday Night Football?
Speaker 2: I'm going Stafford there. I do think it's right to
Speaker 2: be a little concerned on Devonte Adams. You never like
Speaker 2: to see a Thursday hamstring DMP from an older wide receiver.
Speaker 2: But I think even if DeVante doesn't play, I think
Speaker 2: I still even lean Stafford. I just think that there's
Speaker 2: much more scoring upside in that game than Donald who
Speaker 2: kind of lean on this Seahawks defense a little bit
Speaker 2: against the Cardinals offense that has not been as high
Speaker 2: flying as the Colts, which is not something I thought
Speaker 2: I'd say three weeks ago.
Speaker 3: But here we are.
Speaker 1: I want to We had a ton rolling in on
Speaker 1: twitch right now. Brawley six one nine yo yo start
Speaker 1: Kyron Williams, Omari and Hampton or Jordan Mason. Here's a
Speaker 1: fun little twist, non PPR. We don't often see these questions,
Speaker 1: but we get it tonight. Hampton at the Giants, Kyron
Speaker 1: Williams at home against the Colts, and then the other
Speaker 1: one was Jordan Mason, who was at Pittsburgh technically at
Speaker 1: Dublin against the Steelers. Uh PSA, get your lineup set
Speaker 1: early with for that nine thirty am Eastern time kickoff
Speaker 1: on Sunday. God, you gotta bench one of these guys.
Speaker 1: I like them all. Maybe with Blake Korum eating into
Speaker 1: the volume for the Rams, you bench Kien Williams here.
Speaker 1: I think that's what my instinct is telling me. Ampton
Speaker 1: doesn't have to deal with Harris Mason doesn't have to
Speaker 1: lead to deal with Joanes, So I think I might
Speaker 1: sit Kyrien Williams here. Jack.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, if this is your decision, you're probably in
Speaker 2: pretty good shape regardless of who you start. I think
Speaker 2: I leen Jordan Mason in non PPR. I just think
Speaker 2: the rushing is the rushing workload. It's going to be
Speaker 2: so good with Carson Wentz under center. They're going to
Speaker 2: really lean on Mason, and he's looked really effective so far.
Speaker 1: But if if you had to sit one of them,
Speaker 1: because he can start to.
Speaker 3: I can start too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm probably Mason and Hampton as well. Hampton should be
Speaker 2: pretty close to maybe like ninety plus percent snaps, which
Speaker 2: is something we so rarely see at the running back position.
Speaker 2: But with Hassan Haskins this is direct backup. I think
Speaker 2: that he could really flirt with that.
Speaker 1: So the next one we have is from drunk Goldfish
Speaker 1: double Low on Twitch. He's got to pick one of
Speaker 1: these players. Trade Benson, Calvin Ridley, or Jerry Judy. Jerry
Speaker 1: Judy obviously at the Lions, trade Benson tonight against the
Speaker 1: against the Seahawks, and Calvin Ridley. To me, who's at
Speaker 1: the Texans unplayable right now? This is Benson, and I
Speaker 1: don't I don't think twice about it.
Speaker 3: Yep, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: This is the first time where I don't have to
Speaker 2: look at the projections to tell me Trey Benson this is.
Speaker 3: This is pretty clearly Benson.
Speaker 1: I can't Jack. I can't remember if we answered this before.
Speaker 1: We may have, but Derek Abreu has a chance to
Speaker 1: start Trey Benson tonight or Chewba Hubbard. This is PPR.
Speaker 1: I would say Benson over Hubbard here. I think that's
Speaker 1: what I said before as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Benson.
Speaker 1: Okay, and then our Highland on YouTube. This is another
Speaker 1: Vikings question. Do you think that Jordan Mason is going
Speaker 1: to relinquish touches when Aaron Jones returns, and if if so,
Speaker 1: does it go anywhere close to a split? I lean
Speaker 1: back to what we were talking about all off season
Speaker 1: that this was always going to be a split between
Speaker 1: Jones and between Mason, given the what the draft capital
Speaker 1: that the Vikings gave up and then obviously signed Jordan
Speaker 1: Mason to that contract extension as well. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's very close to a split. I think Mason
Speaker 1: gets more of the rushing carries. I think Aaron Jones
Speaker 1: gets more of the passing catches as it were, and
Speaker 1: we go back to how it was in Week one
Speaker 1: and week two. I don't think there's any reason for
Speaker 1: me to believe it's gonna be any different.
Speaker 2: Yep, I'm with you. I don't think they're gonna just
Speaker 2: banish Aaron Jones to a handcuff roll a lot. I
Speaker 2: don't think that makes much sense, even if Mason is
Speaker 2: the superior rusher at this point, which he might be.
Speaker 2: I mean, Jones still ran very well last year, but
Speaker 2: Jones is definitely the superior pass catcher, so I think
Speaker 2: it makes sense to keep both involved once Jones is back.
Speaker 1: Chance F twenty thousand again. Tight End Question, Sam Laporta
Speaker 1: or the resurgent Dalton kin Kaid. Nate pol Volt from
Speaker 1: Optimus Fantasy co hosted this show with me last week,
Speaker 1: and we were basically talking about how we've given up
Speaker 1: on Kinkaid. He's a sit even in tight end Premium.
Speaker 1: He's got to show us something first, well, Jack show
Speaker 1: us something he did, because Kinkaid had the best game
Speaker 1: of his season so far last week, maybe his best
Speaker 1: game in the last two years, and now all of
Speaker 1: a sudden it is a question about Laporta versus Kinkaid.
Speaker 1: Laporta at home against the Browns Kinkaid obviously in the
Speaker 1: massive favorites, or playing on the Bills, who are massive
Speaker 1: favorites at home against the Saints. I'm a weak man.
Speaker 1: I can't make the call to start Kinkaid over Laporta.
Speaker 1: So I still rolle with Laporta here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: I know it's a tough matchup for Laporta against the
Speaker 2: Browns defense that's playing awesome, But I think this Detroit
Speaker 2: offense is so good that it's still going to be
Speaker 2: able to move the ball and score points. Kinkaid definitely
Speaker 2: has touchdown upside again in this matchup against the Saints.
Speaker 2: For their massive favorites. I mean, the Bills are going
Speaker 2: to be super efficient on offense, but there is a
Speaker 2: big pass voguing question. I mean, they're seventeen sixteen point favorites.
Speaker 2: If they get up fourteen and a half, we might
Speaker 2: not see many second half pass attempts.
Speaker 3: So I like Laporta here.
Speaker 1: The conversation about Amari and Hampton that we've had tonight
Speaker 1: has mostly been like, you know, starter sits or whatever,
Speaker 1: and people you know myself included. I benched him in
Speaker 1: one league where I was deep at running back last
Speaker 1: week because I needed to see something first. And now
Speaker 1: Naji Harris is going to be out for the year.
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh confirming that Harris has torn his achilles in
Speaker 1: the Week three game against the Denver Broncos, non contact injury.
Speaker 1: He's twenty seven years old. Hopefully bounces back and finds
Speaker 1: a home somewhere in the NFL next year. But this
Speaker 1: is this is awful guy coming off a quote unquote
Speaker 1: superficial eye injury in a fireworks accident on July fourth,
Speaker 1: to Week three in the NFL, where he tears his achilles.
Speaker 1: The question that we have to ask is not necessarily
Speaker 1: heys Amari and Hampton suddenly startable again. No, the question
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, Jack, Jim Harbaugh said, Kamani
Speaker 1: Vidal was the next man up. And I don't know
Speaker 1: the context behind this quote, but I do know that
Speaker 1: Vidal was inactive throughout the season, whereas Hassan Haskins was
Speaker 1: playing in front of him. When I submitted my waiver
Speaker 1: bids last night in my league's I prioritize I did not.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I put in anything on Vidal,
Speaker 1: but I did put in some low to modest bids
Speaker 1: on Hassan Haskins. Always, you know, playing in these deep leagues,
Speaker 1: you're always trying to get the guy behind the guy,
Speaker 1: and Haskins, I believe is the guy behind Hampton. So
Speaker 1: if anything happens to Hampton, Haskins is going to have
Speaker 1: maybe not a bellcow role, but definitely a significant role,
Speaker 1: a flexible role in this Chargers team that's three and
Speaker 1: oer right now looking very good. Your thoughts on Haskins
Speaker 1: versus Vidal. If you can only roster one, is it Haskins?
Speaker 1: And how strong you believe that that Haskins, you know,
Speaker 1: would have a startable a semi startable role if anything
Speaker 1: were to happen to Omari and Hampton.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that quote and I thought it was
Speaker 2: it was pretty interesting given that Haskins had been the
Speaker 2: one who is actually active. I prefer Haskins for that reason.
Speaker 2: That being said, if Hampton were to go down, I
Speaker 2: think it would be a little hard to have much
Speaker 2: confidence in Haskins as a long term option. The Harbaugh
Speaker 2: also said in that press conference, I believe that the
Speaker 2: Traders want to look into adding more running back help,
Speaker 2: so that I think that's something to be aware of
Speaker 2: with Hampton and definitely something to be aware of with
Speaker 2: both Haskins and vit All that if Hampton goes down,
Speaker 2: I think they have to add a running back. I
Speaker 2: do think Haskins is the one two roster though, given
Speaker 2: that he's been active. I just think that if Hampton
Speaker 2: goes down, I don't think the upside is a top
Speaker 2: twenty running back. I think he's someone who maybe you
Speaker 2: could start in the flex.
Speaker 1: I want to get to a couple more things before
Speaker 1: we get into our Thursday night football preview. Here, Ezekiel Estrada,
Speaker 1: Good evening, Jens, Kenneth Walker or Trade Benson tonight? He
Speaker 1: has to start one of these guys. To me, slam dunk,
Speaker 1: Zach Sharpnay active, which means it's got to be Trede
Speaker 1: Benson that you start over Kenneth Walker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. Srebrene full practice all week. I
Speaker 2: could maybe he's a little limited, but we know Tray
Speaker 2: Benson is not going to be limited. We know that
Speaker 2: it's his backfield now with Conra out, so it's Benson
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 1: Did the Cleveland Browns running back situation get a lot cleaner.
Speaker 1: After the Packers game last week, Quinchawn Judkins jack eighteen carries,
Speaker 1: ninety four yards, he gets into the end zone, he
Speaker 1: caught a pass for one yard, so granted he wasn't
Speaker 1: heavily involved there. We know Jerome Ford has still been
Speaker 1: out there in you know, two minute situations, passing down situations.
Speaker 1: Dylan Samson still coming up the works. But Quinchawn Judkins,
Speaker 1: the fact that this guy missed all of training camp,
Speaker 1: all of preseason, and you know, in his second or
Speaker 1: third game or whatever it is, he's getting eighteen carries.
Speaker 1: I wonder what this guy is capable of with proper preparation.
Speaker 1: I've been pretty impressed so far.
Speaker 2: Yeah I was. I was honestly totally shocked at how
Speaker 2: they used him in week two, immediately making him. I
Speaker 2: think he had ten of twenty running back carries in
Speaker 2: week two, even though he had two practices in the
Speaker 2: previous two months, which I thought that was super impresive.
Speaker 2: I thought Week three was equally pressive when he had
Speaker 2: eighteen of nineteen running back carries for the Browns. Like
Speaker 2: you said, Jerome Ford's still getting all the pass down
Speaker 2: so that kind of limits Judkins upside a little bit,
Speaker 2: but I think it's very clear that they viewed Judkins
Speaker 2: as their running back of the future. I think the
Speaker 2: next question is how much is that actually worth to
Speaker 2: be the RB one for the Cleveland Browns. Joe Flacco
Speaker 2: is the starter for now, but once they go to
Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel or even shud Or Sanders, I think this
Speaker 2: offense could be really ugly. I think Judkins should still
Speaker 2: be in line for basically all of the carries, because
Speaker 2: that's what they've indicated so far. But fifteen carries on
Speaker 2: a team that's not gonna score a lot of points
Speaker 2: in a minimal passing game role isn't all that enticing
Speaker 2: for fantasy.
Speaker 1: The last thing I want to bring up is Brian
Speaker 1: Dables saying that Tyrone Tracy is expected to miss a
Speaker 1: few weeks. Very interesting that Tyrone Tracy started that Week
Speaker 1: three game, and even though Scattabo really Scatubu really came
Speaker 1: on in week two. Now you can't fight, you know,
Speaker 1: Dable can't can't screw us up with Tyrone Tracy anymore.
Speaker 1: It's skataboo show. I did put in some meager bids
Speaker 1: on Devin Singletary just to get the guy behind the
Speaker 1: guy in New York for some of my deeper leagues.
Speaker 1: But this is very exciting for Camp Scattaboo, and quite frankly,
Speaker 1: when I'm looking at my lineups on Saturday and Sunday morning,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm breaking ties in favor of Skataboo
Speaker 1: as my flex or as my second running back here,
Speaker 1: especially with Jackson Dart. This is this is really really
Speaker 1: cool to see. I'm pumped for Skataboo here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Scatuboy is definitely a fantasy starter in
Speaker 2: Week four. I think Singletary is going to have some involvement.
Speaker 2: I don't think Brian day Ball wants Scataboo playing ninety
Speaker 2: percent of snaps like we might see with with some
Speaker 2: of these hir end guys like Campton. As we mentioned previously,
Speaker 2: I think Singletary is still gonna play. But I think
Speaker 2: Scattaboy is gonna be the favorite in all situations. I
Speaker 2: think early downs, light down skull line, I think he's
Speaker 2: gonna be I think he's gonna have an edge over
Speaker 2: Singletary in all three fatts. I think they trust both
Speaker 2: running backs and all three facets, so I don't think
Speaker 2: that it's it's going to be a twenty touch tritcload
Speaker 2: for Scatabu. But I think he's a fantasy starter.
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Speaker 1: Thursday night football preview here tonight with the Seahawks and Cardinals.
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Speaker 1: You're the second Jack Miller, Jack Miller zero two. Was
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Speaker 1: Zero two and sometimes it's that easy, and it's that
Speaker 1: simple to understand. Here, let's get into our our our
Speaker 1: Thursday night football preview. Here, mister bakes a Lot is
Speaker 1: going to lead us off with a starter sick question here.
Speaker 1: He's got a choice between Trevion Henderson and Zach Sharbona tonight.
Speaker 1: I don't like either one of these guys tonight at all,
Speaker 1: quite frankly, Jack, but I understand, you know the situation
Speaker 1: that he might be in with the fumbles to Stevenson
Speaker 1: and Gibson last week. I think the choice should be
Speaker 1: Henderson here for both New England and for mister bakes
Speaker 1: a Lot. But with Rabel and McDaniel not liking to
Speaker 1: play rookies, I just I don't know, man, I really
Speaker 1: don't know what to expect from Henderson now. I know
Speaker 1: after the fumble by Gibson he was getting a ton
Speaker 1: of snaps late. So maybe it's it's Henderson over over
Speaker 1: sharbon Ay tonight. But I apologize, mister bakes a Lot,
Speaker 1: I don't have a really good answer for you here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's Henderson. I also think the floor
Speaker 2: on both of these guys is really low. We've seen
Speaker 2: before the Ramandre and Antonio Gibson fumbles that the Patriots
Speaker 2: were basically shooting hit Henderson like their every three last week.
Speaker 2: So the floor is low if they just go back
Speaker 2: into that rotation. And then for Sureburney obviously he missed
Speaker 2: last week. I don't think he's gonna be super limited
Speaker 2: since he fully practiced the entire week. But there's always
Speaker 2: some risk with guys coming back from injury that they
Speaker 2: get eased in a little bit. So I think the
Speaker 2: floor is really low. I think Henderson has probably a
Speaker 2: higher ceiling if they do decide to give him this
Speaker 2: backfield in a perfect matchup against this Carolina defense.
Speaker 1: The Seattle offense is what I want to talk about here. First,
Speaker 1: Donald has really started to come alive the last week
Speaker 1: or two. He's gotten progressively better. I think he's rosterble.
Speaker 1: I'm actually starting him in a league over Jake Browning,
Speaker 1: where my only quarterback prior to week three was Joe Burrow,
Speaker 1: which I screwed that up there, so I picked up
Speaker 1: Donald this week. I'm playing him over Browning, but I
Speaker 1: think he's more of a super flex play. My concern
Speaker 1: with Donald this year coming in was like, was this
Speaker 1: guy just the Kevin O'Connell product. Was Was he a
Speaker 1: product of Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, TJ Hockinson, all the
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones and all these guys, And the fact that
Speaker 1: he gets Jackson Smith and Jigbub to lean on and
Speaker 1: I think has been really really good for him. Your
Speaker 1: long term outlook on Donald Is this a guy that
Speaker 1: could threaten being a top fifteen quarterback this year or
Speaker 1: is he buried into like top twenty five.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't go as far as top twenty five. I
Speaker 2: don't think he's quite top fifteen.
Speaker 3: I know it was.
Speaker 2: He had a really good last week that was also
Speaker 2: against the Saints, and I think that in an ideal world,
Speaker 2: this offense still wants to lean on the run. So
Speaker 2: I think Donald is like a serviceable QB two, But
Speaker 2: I don't think he's a guy i'd feel awesome trotting
Speaker 2: out in one quarterback leagues.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, trust me. I feel really crappy about it.
Speaker 1: I don't like starting Donald the night at all. This
Speaker 1: is this is my whole thing, Like I hate quarterbacks
Speaker 1: against single quarterback leagues unless I'm getting a really elite guy,
Speaker 1: and then I feel like I don't need a backup,
Speaker 1: and clearly, when you have Joe Burrow, you need a backup,
Speaker 1: and I didn't do that. So now it's going to
Speaker 1: be on the arm of Sam Darnold to try to
Speaker 1: carry me to victory in week four. The backfield that
Speaker 1: will be behind him Kenneth Walker and Zach Scharbonay. We
Speaker 1: talked a lot about these guys tonight. Kenneth Walker had
Speaker 1: the backfield to himself last week, and obviously the two
Speaker 1: touchdowns helped, but he was very inefficient with his touches.
Speaker 1: Sharbon Ay comes back tonight, He's active. I would imagine
Speaker 1: that he has a significant role. Can you make the
Speaker 1: case in the right situation, not necessarily that you'd have
Speaker 1: both these guys on the same team, Jack, but if
Speaker 1: you had them on separate teams. Are they both flexible tonight?
Speaker 2: I think Walker is a lot more flexible than Charbonnet.
Speaker 2: Just with Strabonet coming off the injury, I think the
Speaker 2: floor is pretty low. I wouldn't feel awesome about either
Speaker 2: of them because with Walker you do still have the
Speaker 2: fact that Sharboney was ahead in pretty much every usage
Speaker 2: metric during the first two games. I know Walker was
Speaker 2: more effective during those two games. But I mean it's
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be close to a fifty to
Speaker 2: fifty split again, probably Walker slightly ahead with sharbone coming
Speaker 2: back from an injury. But the Seax also just have
Speaker 2: not thrown the ball to running backs like we're used
Speaker 2: to seeing last year. I don't have their exac running
Speaker 2: back target chair off hand, but it was above league
Speaker 2: average this year. Zach Scharbney doesn't have a target yet,
Speaker 2: even though he's played quite a bit.
Speaker 1: Kenneth w that's mind boggling, by the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. And Kenneth Walker had zero targets last week.
Speaker 2: George Hallani I think had a couple of targets, but
Speaker 2: they came from Drew Locke. So I mean, so far
Speaker 2: when Sam Darnold has been the quarterback, this offense just
Speaker 2: has not thrown to running bcks verty much and that's
Speaker 2: obviously pretty bad news for both of them.
Speaker 1: Uh starter sick question here from mister bakes a lot.
Speaker 1: This is full PPR. He's got to sit one of
Speaker 1: these guys, Zach Sharmoney Brail and Allen or Tyler Algier.
Speaker 1: You have to sit one of these guys for me.
Speaker 1: I think it's Brailen Allen Jack.
Speaker 2: I think it is too obviously you know this, but
Speaker 2: the floor is is really low for for all these
Speaker 2: all of these guys, I think Srebn is the most
Speaker 2: gamescript proof. Braylan Allen and Algier we've seen really have
Speaker 2: their snaps got down in negative game script. I think
Speaker 2: that's more of an issue with the Jets, So it's
Speaker 2: and Braylan.
Speaker 1: Allen for me, has the the the dustiness of perhaps
Speaker 1: the non usage from Alvin Kamara that you've seen so far.
Speaker 1: Is that enough for you to say Trey Benson over
Speaker 1: Kamara tonight, because that's what JJ Keats is facing right now.
Speaker 1: Got to figure out whether Tred Benson or Alvin Kamara
Speaker 1: is the smartest start in Week four.
Speaker 2: I think it's Benson. Kamara just uncharacteristically has not gotten
Speaker 2: targets so far. Game script should keep the Saints from
Speaker 2: getting too many like team running back carrys, and gamescript
Speaker 2: could also get Kamara out of the game early. There's
Speaker 2: just some risk of a quick hook if the Saints.
Speaker 2: If things really go south for the Saints, which with
Speaker 2: a sixteen and a half point spread it very easily could.
Speaker 2: Benson seems more insured in his role. He's gonna get carries,
Speaker 2: He's gonna get targets, even if de Marcado plays.
Speaker 3: A little bit of the passing Dounes. I like Benson here.
Speaker 1: Dare I say as Alvin Kamara finally I losing a
Speaker 1: step could be per Mar ninety nine saying Kamara has
Speaker 1: lost juice out of his brace. That could be a possibility.
Speaker 1: The other one that I want to get to here
Speaker 1: fly Nelly Fly on Twitch, DJ Moore or Trey Benson.
Speaker 1: Moore is at the Las Vegas Right Raiders here with
Speaker 1: a lot of Benson questions tonight. But I'm still rolling
Speaker 1: with Benson here over DJ Moore. Jack.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one's Benson for me. DJ Moore's role just
Speaker 2: has not been what it has been in previous years
Speaker 2: and honestly, what I expected it to be going into
Speaker 2: the year. It really seems like Romodunze has taken a
Speaker 2: strong grasp of the wide receiver one role.
Speaker 3: So I like Benson here for sure.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm reaching on this next one, but Tory Horton
Speaker 1: has actually shown out here both on special teams and
Speaker 1: on offense. The last couple of weeks he had no
Speaker 1: targets against the Niners in Week one two for thirty
Speaker 1: two in a touchdown, in Week two three, for thirty
Speaker 1: two in a touchdown in Week three? Am I stretching
Speaker 1: to say he might be a flex tonight against Arizona.
Speaker 2: I think it's a little early for Horton. I do
Speaker 2: like him long term. We've seen Cooper Cup fade over
Speaker 2: the second half of seasons before. He also has an
Speaker 2: injury history. So there's definitely a world in which Horton
Speaker 2: ends up as the wide receiver too for the Seahawks
Speaker 2: over the second half of the year. But right now
Speaker 2: Cup is still pretty locked into that second wide receiver role,
Speaker 2: I think, and so I think Horton is a good hold,
Speaker 2: but probably not yet a good start.
Speaker 1: Permar ninety nine, Tory is a god matter of time, boy,
Speaker 1: that'd be I hope you're right for my dynasty team's sake,
Speaker 1: because I got a lot of Tory Horton in the
Speaker 1: fourth round of rookie drafts this year. We'll see what
Speaker 1: happens there. I we'll see what happens at tight end.
Speaker 1: Who would you rather roster the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: Is it simply the upside play with Elijah Arroyo, or
Speaker 1: would you rather take the veteran in AJ Barner who's
Speaker 1: been getting out there. I guess Arroyo has been making
Speaker 1: some waves a little bit the last week or two.
Speaker 1: But what would you think here, Jack? Are you just
Speaker 1: simply going with the upside with Arroyo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the upside for me, just I know Barner
Speaker 2: is the better role right now, but I don't think
Speaker 2: either these roles are particularly enticing, and this is kind
Speaker 2: of AJ Barner's role while Arroyo is still getting his
Speaker 2: feet right in the NFL. So I definitely prefer the upside,
Speaker 2: which I mean it might not materialize. He's not as
Speaker 2: good of a blocker as Barner, and I think the
Speaker 2: Seahawks offense really values that. So I don't know about
Speaker 2: the probability of Arroyo actually hitting, but if I had
Speaker 2: to pick one, it's it's definitely Royo, just as an
Speaker 2: upside shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for the guys in the end of your e bench,
Speaker 1: you always want the upside there, So for me, it's
Speaker 1: it's totally a Royo. This is an interesting one from
Speaker 1: Flying Elly Fly, Tory Horton or Sterling Shepard this week.
Speaker 1: I don't obviously, as you'll point out, shortly both low
Speaker 1: floors here. But we don't know what's going on with Tampa.
Speaker 1: Evans not expected to play. We know I BUCA is
Speaker 1: stand up, and what's going on with Chris Godwin, Because
Speaker 1: if he doesn't play, all of a sudden, Shepherd looks
Speaker 1: a lot better. He's got to make the decision in
Speaker 1: the next couple of minutes. Horton or Shepherd.
Speaker 2: Jack. Yeah, I think I go Shepherd. I don't feel
Speaker 2: awesome recommending sterling Shepherd in the year twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: but Evans is obviously out. Godwin didn't practice today. The
Speaker 2: Bucks are saying it's precautionary, so I'm not going to
Speaker 2: read too much in it up until I see his
Speaker 2: practice status for tomorrow. I think he's gonna play, but
Speaker 2: it was such a serious injuries miss so much time,
Speaker 2: I can't imagine he's anything close to a full role,
Speaker 2: and he's probably not like his usual self from an
Speaker 2: efficiency standpoint either. So I think Shepherd is probably the
Speaker 2: wide receiver two for this Tampa offense in week four,
Speaker 2: and so I go Shepherd.
Speaker 1: We're coming up on kickoff here, so I want to
Speaker 1: get this last thing in and then I want to
Speaker 1: expand this out to some more of a wide scoping
Speaker 1: questions Onyler, Murray, Marvin Harrison, Trade Benson, so on, and
Speaker 1: so forth. The defenses tonight for those who are looking
Speaker 1: at streaming like me, and when it comes to Seattle
Speaker 1: in Arizona, I actually have both of these teams going,
Speaker 1: both of these defenses going in a few different leagues tonight.
Speaker 1: Do you have a feeling like, what's your take on
Speaker 1: starting Seattle or the Arizona defense tonight? As far as
Speaker 1: streaming goes for defenses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think both are fine. The total is not
Speaker 2: too high. I prefer Seattle just because it's a better defense.
Speaker 2: The Seahawks are also very small favorite, so the Panther
Speaker 2: or the Colonels are implied for marginally fewer points. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I think both are fine in a low total game.
Speaker 2: That could be kind of a slog, but I prefer
Speaker 2: Seattle if if I was given the option.
Speaker 1: Your two screen experience is about to start, Jack and
Speaker 1: I will take you through the first quarter here tonight.
Speaker 1: Let you know what's going on with fantasy takes on
Speaker 1: each and every drive and play tonight. As the Seahawks
Speaker 1: and Cardinals set to kick off in just a couple
Speaker 1: of minutes speaking of these two teams. I think I've
Speaker 1: delved into everything I want to talk about with Seattle,
Speaker 1: but the Cardinals I think are conundrum right now. Man
Speaker 1: Like Kyler Murray. There there's been people, it seems like
Speaker 1: people in the industry, people have talked to high stakes
Speaker 1: players I've talked to seemingly since twenty twenty three, they
Speaker 1: have said, I'm out on Kyler Murray. I'm just done that.
Speaker 1: We've seen the best of him, We've seen what he
Speaker 1: can do, and I just don't envision him taking this
Speaker 1: next step forward here tonight or this year. I should say.
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray said before the start of the season that
Speaker 1: he was going to run more this year, which I
Speaker 1: think I'd have to check the stats. I think he
Speaker 1: has been running a little bit more. But a lot
Speaker 1: of the same stuff we've been saying about Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, we're saying again already in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five here in late September, is this deja
Speaker 1: vous again for Kyler Murray that he's just going to
Speaker 1: be this type of player that has this tannelizing upside
Speaker 1: but just never seems to deliver on it. From a
Speaker 1: fantasy standpoint.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we know what Kyler Murray is at
Speaker 2: this point, and I think it's a top twelve fantasy quarterback.
Speaker 2: I think it's a usable fantasy quarterback and someone that
Speaker 2: should be rostered in pretty much every league. But I
Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna ever challenge a Lamar Jackson and
Speaker 2: Josh Allen for really the upper echelon of fantasy quarterbacking.
Speaker 2: With that being said, I think that's okay. Like I
Speaker 2: think most of the guys around him, like Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 2: I don't think is ever gonna challenge those guys. Again,
Speaker 2: I don't think Jared Goff, Like, there's so many guys
Speaker 2: who are fine fantasy starters who just don't have the
Speaker 2: upside to challenge the elites, just because the elites at
Speaker 2: quarterback are so good now with how much they run.
Speaker 2: Kyler is running a little bit more this year, or
Speaker 2: at least they're designing a little more for him this year.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure on the scrambles exactly, but his designed
Speaker 2: run rate is up. So Yeah, I think Kyler's a
Speaker 2: find fantasy starter. I don't think he has like top
Speaker 2: three upside, and.
Speaker 1: There's value in that as you pointed out, you know,
Speaker 1: for people who like waiting on quarterbacks, who don't want
Speaker 1: to invest in quarterbacks in single quarterback leagues, I think
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is a perfect quarterback to have on your team,
Speaker 1: where if you don't have a better matchup this week,
Speaker 1: chances are because of Mark Murray's running ability, he's going
Speaker 1: to provide you with a nice fantasy floor. So that
Speaker 1: makes sense there. Let's go to Marvin Harrison next, who
Speaker 1: just first played from scrimmage. He catches an eight yard
Speaker 1: pass from Kyler Murray. So Harrison obviously off on the
Speaker 1: right foot, little wide wide receiver screen as he gets
Speaker 1: out of bounds, and oh my god, Jack, do you
Speaker 1: have this game on right now? Are you watching this?
Speaker 1: Hold on? You might be on mute or your or you're.
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I was, I was on mute. I'm not
Speaker 2: watching it, Okay, I don't. I don't have the TV,
Speaker 2: but I have the ESPN game cast up perfect.
Speaker 1: But the reason I bring this up the Cardinals are
Speaker 1: wearing these all white uniforms, white helmets, red socks, and
Speaker 1: the Cardinals it's got this beautiful tinge of like red
Speaker 1: and orange, like it's it's really appealing to the eye.
Speaker 1: Or maybe I'm just off base on this, but I
Speaker 1: think it's really really cool. Trey McBride catching a pass
Speaker 1: here on second down four a first down?
Speaker 2: Yes, oh sorry, have they shown the end zones yet?
Speaker 2: I don't know, like what the theme is tonight for Arizona,
Speaker 2: but I they painted the end zones pretty like special too,
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I don't know what the occasion is,
Speaker 2: but it's they're they're doing something different and it looks
Speaker 2: pretty cool.
Speaker 1: The uh the the the logo at midfield is pretty cool.
Speaker 1: The logo at midfield is the same logo as as
Speaker 1: what's on the helmet right now. And you're right, I
Speaker 1: have not seen the end zones yet. As Trey Benson
Speaker 1: rushes for no gain on on first and tent, I
Speaker 1: have not seen the end zones, uh to see what
Speaker 1: they're doing there, But yeah, it's it's it's very esthetically
Speaker 1: a pleasing, pleasing to the eye. Yes, I'm looking at
Speaker 1: right now. It's got the star with the rays coming
Speaker 1: out of it, the red and orange rays coming out.
Speaker 1: It's very cool. Uh So anybody who is blind, my apologies,
Speaker 1: you will not enjoy this game to the full effect tonight,
Speaker 1: because it is very cool what we're seeing here tonight
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals and Seahawks. Okay, Kyler Murray a three
Speaker 1: yard carry and it is second and ten from the
Speaker 1: Arizona forty one. I beg your pardon. It is third
Speaker 1: and seven from the Arizona forty four. As the Cardinals
Speaker 1: try to keep this drive going, Marvin Harrison catches this
Speaker 1: pass on the first play from scrimmage for eight yards.
Speaker 1: What's wrong with him? Jack? You know, I felt like
Speaker 1: the early part of drafting season, I spent a good
Speaker 1: part my podcast explaining away Harrison. You know, we expected
Speaker 1: too much year one. They misused him in his rookie year.
Speaker 1: The schedule gets easier in year two, you know, all
Speaker 1: these things. And I feel like over the course of
Speaker 1: the three or four weeks of the season, all these
Speaker 1: things are still true. Anybody who was against Marvin Harrison
Speaker 1: this year would have told you that the Cardinals did
Speaker 1: nothing to change anything that would make it better for
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison this year, That would, you know, even make
Speaker 1: it different. Like everything stayed the same, So why should
Speaker 1: we expect anything different? And I think through three weeks
Speaker 1: that that's largely been true. But I think you can
Speaker 1: make a case that there's other stuff going on. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know how we dropped that pass last week,
Speaker 1: that wide open pass that certainly if he catches that,
Speaker 1: we have a much more different narrative we're talking about
Speaker 1: in our Week four previews. But he didn't catch it,
Speaker 1: and as a result, we're down on Harrison again. Can
Speaker 1: you offer up anything positive Harrison? And conversely, maybe this
Speaker 1: is just who he is. I don't know your thoughts
Speaker 1: on Harrison.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really know either. And everyone saw the
Speaker 2: wide open drop. There would have been a big game
Speaker 2: if not a touchdown. But he also had another drop
Speaker 2: that was maybe a little bit more difficult, but it
Speaker 2: would have been a long touchdown. The play didn't count
Speaker 2: because some other Cardinals receiver. I assume it was like
Speaker 2: Michael Wilson or something got interfered with. But Wilson had
Speaker 2: an easy touchdown go through his hands too. I can't
Speaker 2: really explain it. I mean, I don't want to speculate
Speaker 2: too much.
Speaker 3: Is he hurt?
Speaker 2: Is is it mental? At this point, I don't really know.
Speaker 2: I guess the positives are that while he has not
Speaker 2: shown like top tier upside, the volume is still respectable.
Speaker 2: He had a twenty one percent target share as a rookie.
Speaker 2: He's at nineteen percent through three games this year. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's still fine volume. It's just not what was expected
Speaker 2: of him coming out of college hyped. Is this generational
Speaker 2: wide receiver prospect like he's still a usable fantasy asset.
Speaker 2: I think it's just we were hoping you'd take a
Speaker 2: step forward in through three games. We haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1: The running back situation changed from Week three to week
Speaker 1: four here with Trey Benson now coming up to be
Speaker 1: the lead running back, guys like Amar De Marcado, Bam Knight,
Speaker 1: Michael Carter falling in behind him. Our best wishes go
Speaker 1: out to James Connor for a and speedy recovery. Think
Speaker 1: about everything that guy's been through in his life, you know,
Speaker 1: having this ankle injury is probably nothing for him, you know,
Speaker 1: so he's going to fight through it and hopefully get
Speaker 1: back on the field for Week one next year. You
Speaker 1: had some interesting things to say about Trey Benson on
Speaker 1: the Established the Run, Updated one Remaining, Updated one fifty
Speaker 1: podcast that came out this week. And I think this
Speaker 1: is a precient for anybody thinking that you know it's
Speaker 1: Trey Bell, Trey Benson Belkow season. Yeah, it could be,
Speaker 1: but there's some other things to take into account before
Speaker 1: we just all of a sudden annoyed Benson. Is this
Speaker 1: guy that's going to be getting all these targets, all
Speaker 1: these snaps and all this fantasy production.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm actually curious.
Speaker 2: It's I haven't had a play update, but it's third
Speaker 2: and seven for the Cardinals right now. Is it Benson
Speaker 2: out there or is.
Speaker 1: It I'll interrupt? Is it the play happened a long
Speaker 1: time ago. I don't I have the ESPN thing up too.
Speaker 1: I don't know why it's not updating Murray. I didn't
Speaker 1: see who the running back was. Murray threw a deep pass,
Speaker 1: sort of like an out, a deep out or deep
Speaker 1: slant to I think it was Michael Wilson. It was
Speaker 1: incomplete and they have punted, and now Darnold is taking
Speaker 1: over for the Seahawks. But I did not see what
Speaker 1: running back was out there on third and low got it.
Speaker 2: I think Nathan Yankee, the PFF guy who's really good
Speaker 2: with the snappens. It was de Mercatto out there on
Speaker 2: third down. Previously we had seen the Cardinals use Benson
Speaker 2: on third down, and so that was kind of the
Speaker 2: upside case for him. That was why I was pretty
Speaker 2: bullsh on him after week one. I thought, they're finally
Speaker 2: using Benson on third down. If James Connor goes down,
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, we've got a three down workload.
Speaker 2: It seems like Arizona wants to involve two running backs regardless.
Speaker 2: So I think now that Benson is in the Connor role,
Speaker 2: de Mercado is going to be in the role that
Speaker 2: was previously Benson's role. I do think Benson has a
Speaker 2: better role than Connor had because De Mercado's gonna dear, yeah,
Speaker 2: and De Marcanto's gonna take fewer carries from Benson than
Speaker 2: Benson was taking from Connor. So it's a great role
Speaker 2: for Benson. I don't think it's like a three down
Speaker 2: role like we might see from Jonathan Taylor, McCaffrey, o
Speaker 2: Marion Hampton, but it's still a strong role. But I
Speaker 2: think Dean Marcatto is pretty much confined into that into
Speaker 2: that past game role.
Speaker 1: Now, Kenneth Walker no gain on first down and then
Speaker 1: a Kenneth Walker screen catch for twenty nine yards. Jackson
Speaker 1: Smith the Jigba follows up with a two yard catch
Speaker 1: from uh Sam Darnold second and eight now from the
Speaker 1: Seattle forty five as they are trying to make some
Speaker 1: headway down the field. So if you were trying to
Speaker 1: get the guy behind, the guy, is de Marcado the guy?
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not you know, you're not going after
Speaker 1: Michael Carter, You're not going after Bam Knight or anything
Speaker 1: like that. If if anything were to happen to Benson
Speaker 1: as it stands right now, de Marcado would would probably
Speaker 1: be the guy in obviously what would be a time share,
Speaker 1: but he'd be getting the lion's share of the snaps.
Speaker 2: I would think, I think it's I think it's tough
Speaker 2: to tell. I think that might just like Demercato as
Speaker 2: the pass down guy. If Benson goes down, I could
Speaker 2: see Bam Knight and Michael Carter splitting the early down stuff,
Speaker 2: and De Miccado probably gets an uptick in that area,
Speaker 2: but I don't really think it would be enough to
Speaker 2: make him a fantasy starter. So if Benson goes down,
Speaker 2: I think it would kind of be like a really
Speaker 2: messy three way split for touches there.
Speaker 1: And maybe Wheels up for Harrison McBride and Wilson at
Speaker 1: that point too, so we will see what happens with that.
Speaker 1: So that is your preview of the Seahawks and Cardinals
Speaker 1: ten to seventeen to go in the first quarter. It
Speaker 1: is now a third down that the Seahawks are facing
Speaker 1: after a three yard loss from Kenneth Walker on a
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Speaker 1: question from ky Flynn on YouTube A trade question. Should
Speaker 1: Kai trade Bijon Robinson and Ladd McConkie and getting Jonathan
Speaker 1: Taylor and Zay Flowers. Which side of that trade would
Speaker 1: you rather be on, given that you're giving up a
Speaker 1: running back and receiver to get a running back and
Speaker 1: wide receiver.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's pretty close, But I think at
Speaker 2: this point Jonathan Taylor is probably the most valuable asset
Speaker 2: in fantasy football, and so it's worth how disappointing Laddie Venezuela.
Speaker 3: I think it's JT and Flowers for me.
Speaker 1: I would, I would, I would agree with you. I
Speaker 1: think that's that's the where I roll with it, although
Speaker 1: it is very close, because I think Taylor is at
Speaker 1: the peak of his powers right now, and in Jon
Speaker 1: Robinson you might be getting at a bit of a discount.
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens there. We have to see
Speaker 1: what's happening in this game right now. Kyler Murray has
Speaker 1: just thrown an interception to the Seattle defense and it appears,
Speaker 1: according to the Cardinals defenders that whoever picked him off,
Speaker 1: I think it was the safety, one of the safeties
Speaker 1: has fumbled the football. On the return. The Cardinals are
Speaker 1: saying they have it, and the referee agrees the Cardinals
Speaker 1: do have it off the fumble from the Seattle Seahawks
Speaker 1: safety that picked it off. This was Bryant And who
Speaker 1: was this was this? Michael Wilson? No, it was Oh
Speaker 1: my goodness, this is close because it almost looks like
Speaker 1: he slid down and then lost the football. Did he
Speaker 1: give himself up? I'm sure they're gonna look at this here,
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals with a recovery off the Bryant interception
Speaker 1: fumble from the Kyler Murray interception. Okay, let's move forward
Speaker 1: here with some starter sick questions. Some of these guys
Speaker 1: we've tackled. Some of these guys we haven't. But we're
Speaker 1: gonna pair him up tonight here and help you out
Speaker 1: the best we can. Would you rather start or actually
Speaker 1: I beg your pardon, would you rather start Alvin Kamara
Speaker 1: or Jalen Warren this week? Jalen Warren is in Dublin
Speaker 1: against the Vikings on Sunday morning. Alvin Kamara is gonna
Speaker 1: be at the Buffalo Fields in what should be a
Speaker 1: heavy passing volume game for Rattler. However, the targets that
Speaker 1: don't necessarily have been existent for Alvin Kamara so far
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this would be Jalen Warren for me. He's been
Speaker 2: the early down back for Pittsburgh all year. It seems
Speaker 2: like as of the past couple of weeks he's he's
Speaker 2: taken over for Kenneth Gainwell on past times too, and
Speaker 2: it seems like he's just kind of the three down
Speaker 2: guy for the Steelers at the moment. He hasn't been
Speaker 2: as efficient as we're used to seeing from Jalen Warren.
Speaker 2: But I mean it's not like Kamara has been particularly
Speaker 2: efficient either, and it's not like we can expect Kamara
Speaker 2: to be super efficient in this in this game environment.
Speaker 3: So I think Warren, here are you?
Speaker 1: I said at the start of the year and throughout
Speaker 1: drafting season Jack that I thought we could squeeze one
Speaker 1: more year of fantasy goodness out of Alvin Kamara and
Speaker 1: New Orleans. I'm starting to doubt that statement. What about you?
Speaker 1: Is is this? I mean, is this it for Kamara?
Speaker 1: Is he dost? Is this a player that has been
Speaker 1: drafted as sort of like a high end running back
Speaker 1: two that's gonna slip into borderline flex going forward?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he might be. It's mostly the lack of targets
Speaker 2: that's concerning for me. And it's pretty strange with just
Speaker 2: how consistent he's been as a pass catcher throughout his
Speaker 2: entire career. I mean, even if he's lost the stuff,
Speaker 2: you'd think that they'd make more of an effort to
Speaker 2: get him the ball, but they just haven't so far.
Speaker 2: And I think that that has to rebound at some point,
Speaker 2: but will rebound to the levels we're used to saying
Speaker 2: from Alvin Kamara probably not, just given how slow A
Speaker 2: started to spend. I still think Kamara is a fantasy starter.
Speaker 2: I just think that maybe relative the preseason expectations, we
Speaker 2: need to temper how we look at him moving forward.
Speaker 1: The question that we have from Racy and Ray, I
Speaker 1: think you might have posted something in YouTube earlier that
Speaker 1: I made a mental note that we were going to
Speaker 1: get back to, and I don't know if we ever
Speaker 1: did so. If you asked us something tonight that I
Speaker 1: didn't bring up, please post it again. But right now
Speaker 1: we'll answer your starters. A question here. He needs to
Speaker 1: bench one of these guys here, Jack, Is it Teteroa
Speaker 1: McMillan who is at New England this week? Is it
Speaker 1: a Mecca at Buka who is at home against the Eagles,
Speaker 1: or is it JK. Dobbins at home against the Bengals.
Speaker 1: I know he's got the best matchup, but in full PPR,
Speaker 1: I think it's Dobbins is the one I'm benching. I'm
Speaker 1: playing McMillan, I'm playing at Guka. A lot of question
Speaker 1: marks with the Tampa wide receivers. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: even think I Buka's listed on the injury report, so
Speaker 1: I really like him this week, Dobbins is the guy
Speaker 1: I probably sit, although I you know, I could easily
Speaker 1: be wrong on this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely a great spot for Dobbins is big
Speaker 2: favorites over Cincinnati. I do think you have to sit
Speaker 2: him with these two receivers. Is your other option? I
Speaker 2: mean at BUKA is the easy first option for me.
Speaker 2: I think with Evans out and with Godwin probably operating
Speaker 2: at far below, I think that he should get peppered
Speaker 2: with targets and then it comes down to McMillan and Dobbins,
Speaker 2: and McMillan's just getting so many targets and he's just
Speaker 2: looked really good. I think that maybe this could be
Speaker 2: the spot where he finally turns that into a big
Speaker 2: fantasy outing. So I'm going with the rookie receivers.
Speaker 1: The situation with this one is something Jack and Era
Speaker 1: of the same mind done. I just watched a replay
Speaker 1: of that interception that Kyler Murray threw. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I think it was a tendant for Marvin Harrison, but
Speaker 1: it was a really bad pass, bad decision. They reviewed it,
Speaker 1: they upheld the ruling. It is Arizona football and Trey
Speaker 1: Benson gets a twelve yard rush right away on first
Speaker 1: down as they plunge in to Seattle territory. He ends
Speaker 1: up catching a pass for four yards on the very
Speaker 1: next play, but Tyreek Woollen flagged for a face mask
Speaker 1: penalty as well, tack on fifteen yards and the Cardinals
Speaker 1: now have it first and ten at the Seattle forty
Speaker 1: one with eight ten to go in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb or Isaiah Pacheco is our next star? Or
Speaker 1: sit here limited upside with both of these guys a
Speaker 1: quite frankly limited floors as well. Somebody asked me on
Speaker 1: I was doing a hit on another radio station earlier
Speaker 1: this morning. Somebody asked me what do I do with
Speaker 1: Isaiah Pacheco right now? And the best thing I can
Speaker 1: say Jack was don't cut him. But I'm certainly not
Speaker 1: starting him right now. Nick Chubb. I think Woody Marx
Speaker 1: is working his way into that conversation as well in
Speaker 1: the backfield. If you have to start one of them
Speaker 1: this week, certainly exhaust all other possibilities first. But I
Speaker 1: still lean towards Chubb over Pacheco this week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Chubb for me too. The Texans are finally
Speaker 2: should be able to move the ball a little bit
Speaker 2: against the Titans, their big favorites here. I think Woody
Speaker 2: Marx is ascending. I think that eventually he could really
Speaker 2: usurp Chubb as the rby one. But I think for now,
Speaker 2: Chub is still the preferred option on early downs, and
Speaker 2: I think that in positive game script he should still
Speaker 2: be in line for double digit carries. So it's Chubb
Speaker 2: for me over pacheck Up.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the Texans ground game, I noticed Joe Mixon
Speaker 1: was cut in some of my twelve team to twenty
Speaker 1: man roster leagues. Do I need to find a roster
Speaker 1: spot for him in that deep of a league or
Speaker 1: do I just continue to leave him on the waiver were.
Speaker 2: I think you can leave him on the waiver wire.
Speaker 2: I think I don't think he's gonna play this year.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, let me ask you this, Jack put you
Speaker 1: on the spot. Percentage chance that Joe Mixon takes at
Speaker 1: least one snap in the regular season this year? Is
Speaker 1: it less? Is it less than twenty percent?
Speaker 3: It might be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've just heard some some pretty bad stuff I've heard.
Speaker 1: I've heard nothing which makes me think it's really bad.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I think I think he's a pretty big
Speaker 2: underdog to play.
Speaker 1: The Cincinnati Bengals will continue their season in Week four
Speaker 1: in Denver. The Mile High City RAC wants to know
Speaker 1: what are we expecting from the Bengals offense going forward,
Speaker 1: specifically Chase in Denver. I don't believe you can correct
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong on this. I don't believe Patrick
Speaker 1: Sirtan travels with the opponent's best wide receiver, so certainly
Speaker 1: they can scheme up Jamar Chase. But it was really
Speaker 1: bad against Minnesota this past week. I'm of the belief
Speaker 1: that that's probably Browning's worst game of the season. I
Speaker 1: think better things are ahead from the Bengals, but perhaps
Speaker 1: I'm being too much of a cock eyed optimus here, Jack,
Speaker 1: What do you think about the Bengals going forward and
Speaker 1: then specifically against the Broncos in Week four?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Certan does shadowt a pretty decent amount,
Speaker 2: so I'm sure the Bengals will try to get creative
Speaker 2: and get them away from Cirtan. But I mean, it
Speaker 2: is like Certan is the defensive player of the year,
Speaker 2: but it's still Jamar Chase. I don't think it's like
Speaker 2: Stan's gonna totally shut him down and limit him to zero.
Speaker 2: It's definitely a downgrade relative the most matchups though, and
Speaker 2: with Burrow out, it's definitely a downgrade relative to where
Speaker 2: we were taking Chase in the preseason. I do think
Speaker 2: the Chase is probably less impacted than someone like T. Higgins,
Speaker 2: who's i think, or dependent on Joe Burrow moving the
Speaker 2: ball and scoring points and getting touchdowns, whereas Chase is
Speaker 2: more of a playmaker with the ball in his hand.
Speaker 2: So as long as Brown can get him the ball
Speaker 2: five yards down the field, there's some chance Tom Chase
Speaker 2: makes the play, Whereas if T. Higgins catches the ball
Speaker 2: five yards down the field, that's probably not going much further.
Speaker 2: I think Chase he's still a very clear defensive starter,
Speaker 2: Like you're never benching Tomar Chase regardless of who's under center.
Speaker 2: I think he's probably like a low end wide receiver one.
Speaker 2: Russ Higgins is the guy.
Speaker 1: He's the guy you consider benching, right, I've already benched
Speaker 1: him in a couple of leagues this week. He's not
Speaker 1: the slam dunk start that that that he was before. Uh,
Speaker 1: you got to have one hell of a team to
Speaker 1: be benching Jamar Chase and quite frankly, if you have
Speaker 1: that team, you need to up your game and join
Speaker 1: THEEC or something like that next year, because that it's
Speaker 1: not even fun when he when you have that deep
Speaker 1: of a wide receiver Cort that you could consider benching
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase Uh speaking of stagnate here, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I mentioned it or not. The Cardinals are attempting
Speaker 1: a thirty two yard field goal attempt here Greg George
Speaker 1: with a couple of passes, one for two yards, one
Speaker 1: for nine yards. There was a false start penalty that
Speaker 1: moved the Cardinals back. Trey McBride did get a four
Speaker 1: yard catch on this drive as well. Chad Ryland has
Speaker 1: nailed the thirty three yard field goal as the Cardinals
Speaker 1: have taken a three to nothing lead with four h
Speaker 1: nine to go in the first quarter. Jack and I
Speaker 1: will be with you through the remainder of the first quarter. Tonight,
Speaker 1: Flacco is king on YouTube. Jack has a question. This
Speaker 1: is interesting. He needs one of Ramandre Stevenson, Beshelle Touton,
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary, Ray Davis. This is full PPR and this
Speaker 1: is his number two spot for running back. He does
Speaker 1: admit that it is gross, and yes it is gross,
Speaker 1: I'm a limiting Singletary, even with the purported big time
Speaker 1: rushing second half that the Bill should have against the Saints,
Speaker 1: I'm eliminating Ray Davis. This comes down to Stevenson or
Speaker 1: for me, I lean towards Stevenson, But I can be
Speaker 1: persuaded if you want to make an argument for two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're right to eliminate Singletary and Ray Davis.
Speaker 2: I think I leen Remandre as well. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: a really good matchup, like we've said this a few times,
Speaker 2: but the floor is nothing here. If Rabel decides to
Speaker 2: teach him a lesson after two fumbles last week, there's
Speaker 2: some chance they lean fully into Trevion Henderson. But I
Speaker 2: mean when when these are your other options, it's not
Speaker 2: like the other guys have a very stable floor either.
Speaker 2: And so the Patriots, the Patriots should be able to
Speaker 2: run the ball against this Carolina defense, like pretty much
Speaker 2: everyone has been able to so far. So it's still
Speaker 2: mandre for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I wouldn't overthink it. Tooton's on the
Speaker 1: injury report as well, not saying that he's not going
Speaker 1: to play. Your thoughts, Jack, I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you took a strong stance on this Jacksonville
Speaker 1: running back situation prior to the start of the season,
Speaker 1: but I've see it's changed with the Tank Bigsby trade.
Speaker 1: What are you looking at from Jacksonville right now? Is
Speaker 1: this Etn's backfield or do you think Tutin is going
Speaker 1: to be taking it away from him before the calendar
Speaker 1: turns to twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: I think it's Etn's backfield right now for sure. I
Speaker 2: think Etn is like a definite fantasy starter in the
Speaker 2: short term. Tuton has looked really good so far, and
Speaker 2: I thought it was meaningful that they gave Tutin a
Speaker 2: goal Lie Carey. I think it was from I think
Speaker 2: it was from like the one yard line last week
Speaker 2: and he scored on it. And then there was that
Speaker 2: screen pass that everyone saw in week two where he
Speaker 2: made the defender miss and trot it in. So I
Speaker 2: really like Tutan as an upside shot. I was hopeful
Speaker 2: that he would really ascend more than he did in
Speaker 2: week three. From a usage standpoint. We didn't really see
Speaker 2: the role grow like I was hoping it would, but
Speaker 2: I think he's still like a really strong hold. I
Speaker 2: think we've seen et in the past few years. I mean,
Speaker 2: we've seen ETN show upside before, so I don't want
Speaker 2: to come off as as anti ETN and more so
Speaker 2: pro Tutin, but I think think both are good. I
Speaker 2: think ets a definite fantasy starter right now. I think
Speaker 2: ETN is a good hold. I think he's a tough
Speaker 2: buy right now since he scored a touchdown in back
Speaker 2: to back weeks, But if we ever get a tooton
Speaker 2: floor game, I think he makes sense as a by candidate.
Speaker 1: If ETN were to go down, is this like eighty
Speaker 1: percent of the snap share with LeQuinn Allen getting twenty
Speaker 1: percent or how would you think that that would play out?
Speaker 1: And I'm only asking this for people who are wondering
Speaker 1: what they have in Tuton on their bench right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it would be pretty much a Toton
Speaker 2: rocket ship. They're they're giving Lacking Allen the pass downs.
Speaker 2: I imagine he'd keep that role if ETN goes down.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 2: The Jaguars are still going to throw to their running
Speaker 2: backs on early downs. It's kind of similar to Trey Benson,
Speaker 2: where Laking Allen is the Amario de Meercato, but base
Speaker 2: jall Tutan would be the Trey Benson and that's a
Speaker 2: very valuable fantasy starter.
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker is really off to a great start tonight
Speaker 1: as he busts off on first and ten for the
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks, a twenty one yard run that gets him
Speaker 1: out of bounds at the Arizona thirty five. So to
Speaker 1: recap so far, Kenneth Walker tonight for carries twenty seven yards.
Speaker 1: He also has a twenty nine yard catch as well.
Speaker 1: As the Seahawks march down the field against the Cardinals
Speaker 1: here trying to tie this game up or maybe even
Speaker 1: take the lead. I want to shift over to wide
Speaker 1: receiver here for you, Jack. This is a fun one
Speaker 1: this week. Who would you rather start? And again a
Speaker 1: question that we didn't think we'd be asking ourselves here
Speaker 1: in September, Quinton Johnston at the Giants or DJ Moore
Speaker 1: against the Raiders in Las Vegas.
Speaker 2: It's Johnston for me, which I did not really think
Speaker 2: i'd be saying three weeks ago. But DJ More just
Speaker 2: has not had the role we're used to seeing from him.
Speaker 2: I think Johnston has a higher target share so far
Speaker 2: on an offense that's throwing significantly more and significantly more efficiently.
Speaker 2: At least then they're not playing the Cowboys quote unquote defense.
Speaker 2: I definitely like QJ over DJ Moore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. These are two guys trending in the
Speaker 1: wrong or different directions. I should say DJ Moore probably
Speaker 1: not in the right one. Think about what Luther Burden
Speaker 1: was able to do last week, not only on that
Speaker 1: big flea flicker, but a couple other plays as well,
Speaker 1: Roma Dunza ascending to sort of this quasi number one
Speaker 1: role for the Bears. And then you have Quentin Johnston
Speaker 1: who isn't going away. I've made the case that Keenan
Speaker 1: Allen and Ladd McConkie are a little bit more of
Speaker 1: a duplication of skills, and as a result, Quentin Johnston
Speaker 1: probably gets on the field, maybe more than he should.
Speaker 1: But what he's able to do on the outside is
Speaker 1: something that Alan can no longer do, and maybe Lad
Speaker 1: McConkie is not able to do. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: he's out there quite a bit. I'm with you. I'm
Speaker 1: playing Johnston over DJ Moore this week. I don't want
Speaker 1: to say I'm not thinking twice about it, but I
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about this decision. We have another Kenneth
Speaker 1: Walker run for eight yards and a Cooper Cup sighting
Speaker 1: all the way down to the sixteen yard line for Arizona.
Speaker 1: It is a eleven yard catch for Cooper Cup on
Speaker 1: third and two, and now the Cardinals have it first
Speaker 1: and ten. At the no I take that back. They
Speaker 1: no longer have it first and ten. Sam Donald is
Speaker 1: throwing a touchdown. It is not to Cup, it is
Speaker 1: not to Smith, the Jigba Walker, Charbonne, or even Elijah Arroyo.
Speaker 1: AJ Barner gets in the end zone on a sixteen
Speaker 1: yard touchdown catch from Sam Donald. The Seahawks have taken
Speaker 1: the lead. Nice little wheel slash fade route there for
Speaker 1: aj Barner, well set up, he was open and the
Speaker 1: Seahawks have a six to three league The extra point
Speaker 1: is pending. The Seahawks have completed the drive nine plays,
Speaker 1: seventy seven yards. The Jason Myers extra point is good.
Speaker 1: Three h four to go in the first quarter. The
Speaker 1: Seahawks now on top of the Cardinals seven to three.
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy and one Dale Robinson. A lot of people
Speaker 1: will have both these players on their team, and they're
Speaker 1: in a conundrum this week. Based on what Judy had
Speaker 1: did at the end of last year, what he's doing
Speaker 1: this year, and then what Wandale Robinson did in Week two.
Speaker 1: My god, the monkey wrench in that this conversation right now,
Speaker 1: Jack is Jackson Dark starting now for the Giants this week.
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people believe that this
Speaker 1: is a really really good thing for Wandale Robinson. It
Speaker 1: may or may not be. I don't know. They get
Speaker 1: the Chargers this week at home, Jerry Judy travels to
Speaker 1: Detroit to take on that Lion's defense. You can only
Speaker 1: play one Judy or Robinson.
Speaker 2: I think it's Wandale. For me, the average up of
Speaker 2: target for Wandale has gone from let me pull up
Speaker 2: exactly what it was. It was five point one last year,
Speaker 2: five point five year prior. It was three point three
Speaker 2: in week one. In Week two it was sixteen point seven,
Speaker 2: and then last week it was twenty one point three.
Speaker 2: So we know that he's a strong target owner and
Speaker 2: they're finally actually throwing the ball down the field to him.
Speaker 2: Obviously didn't really complete those passes last week when week
Speaker 2: two we saw the upside case, and really has not
Speaker 2: really earned targets at the level we saw over the
Speaker 2: second fl last year. It's pretty crowded there with Tillman,
Speaker 2: with Njoku, with Fannin. Jerome Ford's a little bit involved too.
Speaker 2: So I like Wandell, even though I don't think the
Speaker 2: matchup is great for Dart against this Charger's defense, but
Speaker 2: I think the volume and now the better usage from
Speaker 2: a downfield perspective makes me lean Wondo Robinson.
Speaker 1: The A dot for Robinson is not something I had
Speaker 1: on my Bengo card this year. Certainly, we have not
Speaker 1: seen him use like this since his days as a
Speaker 1: Kentucky Wildcat, and it's been very pleasant for us, so
Speaker 1: we would love to see it obviously, if we have
Speaker 1: Robinson on our team. Regarding the targets with Judy, he's
Speaker 1: gone eight eight five, only five targets against the Packers
Speaker 1: last week. He only caught one of those passes, but
Speaker 1: I was kind of a knockdown, slug it, slug it out,
Speaker 1: drag it out type game. And he goes to Detroit
Speaker 1: this week where I think they're going to be passing.
Speaker 1: But to your point, maybe it just means more for Fannin.
Speaker 1: Maybe it means more for Njoku and players like that. Tillman,
Speaker 1: you think about Jerome Ford and all these players that
Speaker 1: Flacco has been throwing to this year. I think I'm
Speaker 1: with you. I think I'm starting Robinson over Judy if
Speaker 1: for no other fact. And I always bring this back,
Speaker 1: and this is why I'm not a fantasy analyst. Fantasy
Speaker 1: football is supposed to be fun. I think Wandale Robinson
Speaker 1: does a more fun start with Jackson Dart throwing to
Speaker 1: him this week over Jerry Judy. So that's the way
Speaker 1: I lean on that. Over to tight ends, Let's get
Speaker 1: to Nashville and talk about Chig a con Quo this week,
Speaker 1: a tight end that I think a lot of pundits
Speaker 1: out there are expecting bigger things, predicting bigger things for
Speaker 1: him as the season goes on. He gets a tough
Speaker 1: matchup in Houston this week against that Texans defense Brenton Strange,
Speaker 1: who's been very good so far for the Jaguars, especially
Speaker 1: last week six for sixty one, sixty two, something like that.
Speaker 1: He goes to San Francisco, so they're both on the road.
Speaker 1: You can only pick one. I feel like I'm leaning
Speaker 1: more towards Brenton Strange on this given his volume lately.
Speaker 1: Iyo Manners has still been getting a lot of targets
Speaker 1: for the Titans. Ridley's getting a lot of targets. He's
Speaker 1: not cashing in on him, and I guess the thing working.
Speaker 1: You know, Conquo's favor is cam Ward just refuses to
Speaker 1: throw to his running backs. But if you can only
Speaker 1: pick one this week and you have to start either
Speaker 1: Stranger or O Conquo Jack Miller from established the run,
Speaker 1: which way are you rolling?
Speaker 2: I'd also be going strange, mostly just as a function
Speaker 2: of the matchup. I mean, cam Ward has been he
Speaker 2: hasn't been bad, but I mean the Titans offense has
Speaker 2: has looked pretty bad overall, and this matchup on the
Speaker 2: road against Houston is just as bad as it gets
Speaker 2: for rookie quarterback. Easier matchup, first range, and so I'm
Speaker 2: going with strange.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I got the Texans defense deployed in more than
Speaker 1: a few leagues this week, very excited to see what
Speaker 1: they are able to do. Cam Ward is one of
Speaker 1: these I don't I'm not putting him in the Jamis
Speaker 1: Winston category yet, but he might ultimately fall there. I
Speaker 1: love the fact that this guy's always trying to make
Speaker 1: a play, constantly pumping the ball down. Feel well, that's
Speaker 1: what we want to see from fantasy quarterbacks, and quite frankly,
Speaker 1: it's what we want to see from our defense is
Speaker 1: when we're going up against quarterbacks like that as well.
Speaker 1: Sticking with the tight ends here, I'll get to another
Speaker 1: one that I think is probably only going to affect
Speaker 1: FFPC players looking to flex out a tight end this week?
Speaker 1: Would you play Dallas Goddard at Tampa or would you
Speaker 1: play JANEU Smith who is at well, I say at home.
Speaker 1: He's in Dublin across the pond against the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 1: Jenue Smith, John Smith beg your pardon or Dallas Goddard
Speaker 1: this week? Jack, I think it's very close between the two.
Speaker 1: Quite frankly, I think I roll with Goddard, but man,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I go got her to. The pass
Speaker 2: volume for the Eagles has just been so bad, but
Speaker 2: I think the scoring up side for this team is
Speaker 2: just a lot higher than it is for Pittsburgh, and
Speaker 2: so often tight end production is just who falls into
Speaker 2: the end zone. And I think you can feel better
Speaker 2: about the Eagles putting out points as bad as it's
Speaker 2: been for them so far.
Speaker 3: Then Johnny Smith.
Speaker 1: The whole running thing that they're doing in Philly. I
Speaker 1: mean this is they can't continue to do this, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna see AJ Brown. We saw a
Speaker 1: J Brown bust out last week. But we're gonna see
Speaker 1: more consistent play from Brown and Smith and Hurts of
Speaker 1: the passing game, right or are we not? I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to think. I just get so
Speaker 1: fed up with watching how this Eagles team wins games
Speaker 1: this year. And God bless them. You know, they don't
Speaker 1: care about fantasy, nor should they. They're just all about
Speaker 1: winning games. But it has been annoying to watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not an athletically pleasing brand of football, but
Speaker 2: it works, and it worked for them. Last year. They
Speaker 2: were more pass heavy than they were last year. They
Speaker 2: were pass heavier last year, but it was mostly just
Speaker 2: from a volume standpoint. The past eight is not that different.
Speaker 2: It's just that they had more plays and had more
Speaker 2: total passing plays last year. They're not suddenly like running
Speaker 2: them all like significantly less than last year. So I
Speaker 2: think they play the pass long is gonna correct a
Speaker 2: little bit. I still think it's going to Bedlow's volume
Speaker 2: pass offense in football, but maybe closer to like twenty
Speaker 2: seven pass the times per game as opposed to twenty two,
Speaker 2: which makes a pretty sizable difference.
Speaker 1: Totally, especially when you're considering that a lot of people
Speaker 1: invested some serious draft capital in aj Brown, Demonta Smith,
Speaker 1: and quite frankly Saquon Barkley, who needs some of those
Speaker 1: catches as well. The first quarter has come to an end.
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray was sacked for eight in eight yard loss
Speaker 1: on second and seven, and then he runs for four
Speaker 1: yards on third and fifteen. When they resume on Prime Video,
Speaker 1: it will be with a Cardinals punt from their own
Speaker 1: twenty one, sending it back to Sam Darnold. We press
Speaker 1: on here, j G on YouTube right now, Jack wants
Speaker 1: to know if we would trade Bres Hall and the
Speaker 1: Monross Saint Brown in exchange for Jamar Chase and Devon
Speaker 1: h Chant. Now, Brice Hall, certainly, I think things are
Speaker 1: looking up for him. This coronation of Braylen Allen that
Speaker 1: a lot of people saw happening during drafting season certainly
Speaker 1: has not happened. You have a Monross Saint Brown who
Speaker 1: a lot of people said the ascension of Jamison Williams
Speaker 1: was going to happen this year under the new John
Speaker 1: Morton offense, it was gonna be a Williams offense rather
Speaker 1: than a Saint Brown offense. That has been widely exaggerated
Speaker 1: as well. So you have Bresol and Saint Brown here
Speaker 1: on one side. You have Jamar Chase, who obviously will
Speaker 1: take a bit of a hit, not a strong hit
Speaker 1: in my opinion. In the move from Burrow to Browning,
Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of these backup quarterbacks able to
Speaker 1: keep that number one option not only a float, but thriving.
Speaker 1: And then Devon ah Chan, who is the ultimate wildcard.
Speaker 1: And maybe this trade hinges on what you think is
Speaker 1: gonna happen with eight Chan and that Dolphins offense. I'm
Speaker 1: still bullish on him for whatever reason, even when that
Speaker 1: offensive line is bad, even when the offense in general
Speaker 1: is bad. Ah Chant always seems to be doing numbers.
Speaker 1: He's been very efficient both in the running game and
Speaker 1: in the passing game. This is a coin flip for me.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out which side I'd rather have.
Speaker 1: I think it's chasing Chan, but man, it's close.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I spent that whole time thinking about this because
Speaker 2: I wasn't sure either. I prefer Amira to Chase, and
Speaker 2: I prefer Hn to Breeze. I think for me, the
Speaker 2: gap between the running backs is bigger than the gap
Speaker 2: between the wide receivers, and so I Aileen Chase and
Speaker 2: h N as well. But I think this is one
Speaker 2: of the fairest trades we've talked about so far.
Speaker 1: So JG hopefully that helps out, helps you out. Jack
Speaker 1: and I are both signing off on this deal to
Speaker 1: trade Hall and Saint Brown and get Chase in Chen
Speaker 1: and go with God on this. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: We have wrapped up the tight end discussion. Want to
Speaker 1: get to a couple more start since at the quarterback position.
Speaker 1: A couple of players that we've talked about a little
Speaker 1: bit tonight but never compared him to each other a
Speaker 1: Monro Saint Brown's teammate Jared Goff this week at home
Speaker 1: against the Cleveland Browns. Would you play him? Or would
Speaker 1: you play Gino Smith? At home against the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1: Not that I'm trying to poison your mind here, J,
Speaker 1: but the Lions are ten point favorites against the Bounds
Speaker 1: in a total featuring forty four and a half points.
Speaker 1: Whereas you look at the Bears and the Steelers. I
Speaker 1: beg your pardon. The Bears and the Raiders. Raiders are
Speaker 1: one and a half point favorites, and it is a
Speaker 1: forty seven and a half point total. Spoiler alert. I
Speaker 1: think I'm leaning towards Geno Smith here, but you are
Speaker 1: a pervasive man, persuasive man, so maybe you can sell
Speaker 1: me it is it is at home for Jared Goff
Speaker 1: where he plays really, really well at least.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think I tilt towards Gino too.
Speaker 2: I think this one's really close because the Lions should
Speaker 2: be able to put up points, but I think it's
Speaker 2: more likely that the Raiders are passing than the Lions
Speaker 2: might be able to just sit on sit on a
Speaker 2: lead with with David Montgomery and Gibbs. So this one's
Speaker 2: pretty close for me, but i'm Geno as well.
Speaker 1: An implied point total of twenty seven for the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1: As I look at the the Raiders, it looks like
Speaker 1: about twenty five twenty six implied point total for Las
Speaker 1: Vegas as well, so it's very close. Listen, I think
Speaker 1: you can go with Golf if you want to here,
Speaker 1: but I lean towards Geno Smith as does my good
Speaker 1: buddy Jack Miller Final one tonight, and I'll bring this up.
Speaker 1: My bust of the year on my local fantasy football
Speaker 1: show was Baker Mayfield, Jack and a lot of the reason,
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a multiple multitude of reasons that
Speaker 1: went into that. I just feel like this dude was
Speaker 1: punching above his weight last year. I think about where
Speaker 1: you had to pick him and drafts. This year, I
Speaker 1: didn't think he was worth it, and I don't like
Speaker 1: him this week against Philadelphia. However, I can't deny what
Speaker 1: he's been able to do from a fantasy standpoint so
Speaker 1: far this year. He's looked very good. I think he's
Speaker 1: tied for second in the NFL and touchdown passes, so
Speaker 1: he's certainly up at the top of certain metrics, maybe
Speaker 1: at the bottom or in the middle of some other metrics.
Speaker 1: If you had a decision between Mayfield and bow Nicks
Speaker 1: this week, who bow Nicks is obviously playing against the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals on the second Monday night football game. I
Speaker 1: haven't mentioned that yet as well. There's two Monday Night
Speaker 1: games this week, but bo Nick's a really good matchup
Speaker 1: against the Cincinnati Bengals. Baker Mayfield not a great matchup
Speaker 1: against Philly. Who would you rather start this week as
Speaker 1: your quarterback, Mayfield or Nicks.
Speaker 2: I think, just based on matchup, it's Nicks. I think
Speaker 2: in general i'd rather have it. It's definitely Baker. But
Speaker 2: I think just this is pretty much the best possible
Speaker 2: matchup or second best behind Dallas, and almost the worst
Speaker 2: possible matchup for Baker, So I go Nicks here. There
Speaker 2: was also some weird stuff with Baker today where he
Speaker 2: was like dropping back at practice but they wouldn't let
Speaker 2: him throw.
Speaker 3: Called it like a bicep. I assume he's gonna play.
Speaker 2: He's He's had worse stuff and not not miss time,
Speaker 2: but I I just something to keep an eye out.
Speaker 1: I do remember him shaking his throwing hand quite a
Speaker 1: bit in that last game last week, so I wonder
Speaker 1: if that has something to do. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: you're right, I think i'd be between these two. I'd
Speaker 1: rather have Mayfield on my roster the rest of the way,
Speaker 1: but definitely I'm playing Nicks over Mayfield this week for sure.
Speaker 1: And that's going to do it for our show tonight, Jack,
Speaker 1: Before we let you get out of here and enjoy
Speaker 1: the rest of this game, as we still have a
Speaker 1: seven to three ball game fourteen minutes ago in the
Speaker 1: first half. The established the Run dot com website is
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Speaker 1: Can you tell us sort of what your specialty is
Speaker 1: and what you're going to be working on in the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five season for ETR.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm working on the productions for ETR along with
Speaker 2: Leoni and Mark Dankinbring, so I'll be doing that a
Speaker 2: lot of the time.
Speaker 3: Then I also have some content.
Speaker 2: I have an article every week that comes out on
Speaker 2: Tuesday morning, just going through the biggest usage notes that
Speaker 2: I see from the previous week, and that's that's pretty
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Speaker 1: So, yeah, and anything. If you want to see Jack
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Speaker 1: be good and let's do this again soon for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me on.
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