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<v Speaker 1>Time now is eight oh seven, which means it's time

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<v Speaker 1>for Night Side with Dan Ray.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been Kyle Bray WBZ, Boston's News Radio. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>joining us night Side, Dan Ray.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm don Yourazy Boston's News Radio. Kyle Brah, I love you.

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<v Speaker 3>Sign off. I've been Kyle Bray. Hey you are still

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<v Speaker 3>Kyle Bray, no doubt about that. Thanks very much, Kyle.

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<v Speaker 3>Stay dry tomorrow with all the weather that's coming in

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<v Speaker 3>hope all of you stay dry as well. It sounds

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<v Speaker 3>like they're talking about them monsoon tomorrow here in New England,

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<v Speaker 3>and that must be the weather the Red Sox are

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<v Speaker 3>experiencing tonight out in Cleveland, Ohio. I often called the

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<v Speaker 3>Mistake by the Lake. My name's Dan Ray. There are

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<v Speaker 3>no mistakes on Nightside. No, we do everything intentionally here

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<v Speaker 3>myself and Rob Brooks. Rob is the producer of this program.

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<v Speaker 3>He is back in broadcast headquarters Central Location. Well, we

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<v Speaker 3>really shouldn't tell him where you are, Rob, but you

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<v Speaker 3>know they probably know anyway. That's okay. Yeah, the best, Rob, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the best. Anyway. Rob does a great for us, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was telling me he's got to work tomorrow. Rob.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope you get in and out tomorrow nice and easily,

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<v Speaker 3>without all of the role that Ron and I help.

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<v Speaker 3>All of you have something to do tomorrow that's indoors.

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<v Speaker 3>It's as simple as that. But if you stick with

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<v Speaker 3>us all the way until midnight tonight, we will get you.

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<v Speaker 3>Tonight is April twenty fifth. It's eight months till Christmas.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you've got all your Christmas shopping done, no problem.

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<v Speaker 3>We have four interesting guests in our first hour, and

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<v Speaker 3>then we will get on to some other topics at hand.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a movement up on Beacon Hill to try to

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<v Speaker 3>end life without parole. I guess at some point we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to get to the point where anyone gets convicted,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll just give them a time out in their room.

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<v Speaker 3>But we'll talk about that. At nine o'clock. We're going

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<v Speaker 3>to start off and we're going to learn a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit about Irish dancers. In Irish dancing. Irish dancers, and

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<v Speaker 3>I guess probably from dancers from all over the world

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<v Speaker 3>have just come back US. Irish dancers have just come

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<v Speaker 3>back from the World Irish Dance Championships in where else Dublin,

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<v Speaker 3>Ireland joining us now is a teacher and a student

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<v Speaker 3>who are participating, and I guess they call this event

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<v Speaker 3>the worlds. Molly Francis Lutwyn is a dancer, teacher and

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<v Speaker 3>owner of a dance studio, and Francesca Santorum is one

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<v Speaker 3>of the dancers. So let me start with Molly Francis

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<v Speaker 3>luck when Molly, how popular is Irish dancing? I know

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<v Speaker 3>you folks are located in New York State. I know

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<v Speaker 3>what it is. I wouldn't dare attempt it, but it

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<v Speaker 3>certainly looks like you have to be pretty athletic to

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<v Speaker 3>be a successful Irish dancer. And is it fair to

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<v Speaker 3>call them Irish step dancers or is it just Irish dancer.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's let's clarify that first of.

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<v Speaker 4>All, so you can call them Irish step dancers or

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<v Speaker 4>Irish dancers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, perfect, So I see these folks, and of course

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<v Speaker 3>all of us have experienced river dance, and which is

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<v Speaker 3>which is Irish dancing? You've got to be really in

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<v Speaker 3>good shape here athletically. These these people are more than

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<v Speaker 3>these They are more than dancers. They're athletes. Correct.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, it's a very athletic sport. It's extremely hard and

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<v Speaker 4>it takes a lot of precision, precision in practice These

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<v Speaker 4>kids practice up to seven days a week prepping. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>their whole world revolves around it at that level of

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<v Speaker 4>going to the world, so it's really a high level

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<v Speaker 4>for it. Like you were saying, at what.

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<v Speaker 3>Age do you introduce kids who really want to be competitive?

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously it can be taken up by anyone, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>assuming if by time you're fifteen or sixteen that that

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<v Speaker 3>window has probably closed. What time hockey players have to

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<v Speaker 3>start to start skating as early as three? Back?

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, tell me, yes, we actually have a tiny

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<v Speaker 4>top class and we take dancers at three years old,

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<v Speaker 4>and actually we do. There's adult dancing is huge, and

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<v Speaker 4>Irish dancing you can be any age. The Irish dance

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<v Speaker 4>community spans all different ages and levels.

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<v Speaker 3>But in terms of the competitive dancers, I assume this

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<v Speaker 3>is something that someone like Francesca, who I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>talk to now, probably started at a very early age. Francesca,

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<v Speaker 3>you were one of the dancers on the trip with

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<v Speaker 3>your dance teacher and coach, Molly Francis Ludwin. When did

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<v Speaker 3>you start doing this activity?

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<v Speaker 5>Seriously, I started our dancing when I was four years old,

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<v Speaker 5>so I've been doing I'll know.

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<v Speaker 3>No that's great, that's great. And as you got older

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<v Speaker 3>and you became more serious, what is it about the

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<v Speaker 3>sport that that that allowed you or compelled you to

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<v Speaker 3>take it as seriously? I know kids start piano less

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<v Speaker 3>is when they're five or six, and by seven or

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<v Speaker 3>eight they're done and they're not concert pianists. What what

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<v Speaker 3>drew you into this, uh, this competition or we I

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<v Speaker 3>guess we could call it a sport, but what what

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<v Speaker 3>what is about it that that has that has drawn

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<v Speaker 3>you into this high level of competition?

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<v Speaker 5>So I would say as I got older, the more

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<v Speaker 5>dance competitions I did, and the better I got with

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<v Speaker 5>the result, I definitely was encouraging to keep going and

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<v Speaker 5>then see like the best I could get, And my

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<v Speaker 5>mother really pushed me to do the best I could.

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<v Speaker 3>It's okay, that's okay. Parents. Sometimes I'm sure she pushed

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<v Speaker 3>you in a in a supportive way. Is that your

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<v Speaker 3>first trip to Ireland last weekend?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I've actually been there twice twice.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I've I've been there a few times myself. I

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<v Speaker 3>actually have dual citizenship, so I I believe me, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>very very much aware of just the difficult this this sport.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's it's not an easy sport to uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to to really accomplish. I mean you you're

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<v Speaker 3>an accomplished dancer. What do you hope to do with this?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this something you're going to carry on and become

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<v Speaker 3>a teacher or a coach or how where will this

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<v Speaker 3>sport take you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? For sure.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean I already help a little bit with Molly

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<v Speaker 5>teaching some of the younger girls team dances, and I

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<v Speaker 5>really enjoy it and hopefully one day maybe I could

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<v Speaker 5>be in river dance or like some sort of professional

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<v Speaker 5>dance company.

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<v Speaker 3>Very nice and last questions, Francesca, for you, has this

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<v Speaker 3>helped you? My understanding is you're still in high school.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you're a junior or a senior?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a senior senior.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know at this point where you if you're

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<v Speaker 3>going off to college next fall?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 7>I am where you're going?

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<v Speaker 5>If I could ask Junny Cortland.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, now, do they have any sort of a program

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<v Speaker 3>there where you can continue to to compete and perfect

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<v Speaker 3>perfect your your your vocate your avocation here?

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<v Speaker 5>They don't have an IRSTS program, But the college is

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<v Speaker 5>only like forty minutes away from Francis Academy. So I

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<v Speaker 5>would hope to continue to try to get to Francis

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<v Speaker 5>Academy in practice.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let me come back to your to your

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<v Speaker 3>teacher and your coach, Molly Francis. Letwin Molly, what what

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<v Speaker 3>advice would you give to a family that has a

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<v Speaker 3>young girl or a young boy who might be interested

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<v Speaker 3>in the sport. Obviously we reach a pretty wide audience here.

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<v Speaker 3>We're heard in most of the eastern the US. How

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<v Speaker 3>is there a website that parents can go to? You

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<v Speaker 3>know you're located, I know in Syracuse, we're in Boston,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's a lot of people in different places, is

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<v Speaker 3>here and in Canada and elsewhere who are listening. Is

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<v Speaker 3>there some sort of a national or an international website

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<v Speaker 3>that people can go to to get information as to

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<v Speaker 3>what Irish step dancing programs might be available in their

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<v Speaker 3>their area.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So, Actually, if you go to the c l

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<v Speaker 4>which you can look up your local like what dance

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<v Speaker 4>schools are near you. There's a registry there and if

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<v Speaker 4>you just google Irish step dancing clergy. It would bring

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<v Speaker 4>you to local schools.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think, what does what does c l r

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<v Speaker 3>G stand for?

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's a it's a Gaelic word. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 4>to try to say it right now, but it stands for.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, I'm picking up a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a Canadian accent with you. Are you Canadian?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, we're actually close. We're close to the Canadian border.

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<v Speaker 4>I heard that two hours.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, did you grew up in Canada?

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<v Speaker 4>No, Syracuse my whole life.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well, we're with the word. When you pronounce the

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<v Speaker 3>word organization that is that's always a tip up. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you both for joining us. This was an international

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<v Speaker 3>phone call. I wasn't sure if we had an Irish

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<v Speaker 3>stepped an American Irish step dancer and an American Irish

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<v Speaker 3>step dancing coll coach with roots in Canada. But thank

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<v Speaker 3>you both very much. Fringe Casca, best of luck as

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<v Speaker 3>you go off to college. Your parents must be very

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<v Speaker 3>proud of you and Mollie. Thanks very much for your

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<v Speaker 3>time tonight as well, and keep on dancing.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much for having us.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, good night, folks. When we get back, we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about something that I'm more comfortable with. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think I could ever be an Irish step dancer,

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<v Speaker 3>but I can eat pizza. The largest pizza festival in

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<v Speaker 3>New England returns to Boston City Plaza in June, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to talk about it with the co director

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<v Speaker 3>of the Boston Pizza Festival, something we all can participate in.

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<v Speaker 3>Right after the break here on Nightside. You're listening to

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<v Speaker 3>on Nightside Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's

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<v Speaker 3>news Radio. If there is the universal food of food

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<v Speaker 3>that everybody loves, I think it's pizza. And once again

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<v Speaker 3>we will have the largest pizza festival in New England

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<v Speaker 3>this year on Boston City Hall Plaza on Saturday, June

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<v Speaker 3>twenty first and Sunday, June twenty second, the first couple

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<v Speaker 3>of days of summer. Perfect timing with us as Gene

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<v Speaker 3>Carlo Natali. Gen Carlo, I've hoped I pronounced it tali correctly.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that be the correct pronunciation?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, yes, you said it perfectly.

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<v Speaker 3>All right? You were the co director of the Boston

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<v Speaker 3>Pizza Festival. How long has the Boston Pizza Festival been

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<v Speaker 3>gracing our fine city? How many years?

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<v Speaker 2>We started in twenty sixteen, and obviously COVID stopped us

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<v Speaker 2>for a little bit, but we're back in action. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is our fifth year back here at City Hall Plaza,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're so excited.

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<v Speaker 3>All right now, Look, even if it was COVID, I

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<v Speaker 3>would have been there for the Pizza festival. What's the

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<v Speaker 3>genesis of it? I know you're at City Hall Plaza,

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<v Speaker 3>which is very close to the Boston's North End, which

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<v Speaker 3>have the best pizza places in the world as far

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<v Speaker 3>as I'm concerned. How was it that someone at one

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<v Speaker 3>day woke up and said, you know what this city means,

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<v Speaker 3>we need a pizza festival, and a bunch of people said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you're right. How did it start? What is the genesis

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<v Speaker 3>of the Boston Pizza Festival.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so happy that you shouted out the North End.

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<v Speaker 2>the North End. So thank you for doing that. We

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<v Speaker 2>we love kidding me. So the pizza. The pizza festival

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<v Speaker 2>originated so my family and I my father's from Naples, Italy,

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<v Speaker 2>and in Naples, Italy, they have the largest pizza festival

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<v Speaker 2>in the world. And as a family, we would always

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<v Speaker 2>go to Italy every summer and that was like our

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<v Speaker 2>family to do. Every year we would we would go

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<v Speaker 2>to the Naples Pizza Village, which is the biggest pizza

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<v Speaker 2>festival in the world. Later on in life, as I

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<v Speaker 2>my business partner and I were like, you know, let's

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<v Speaker 2>do a pizza festival. And my business partner Raft said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they've got to be a pizza festival already,

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<v Speaker 2>And sure enough, we looked it up in Boston didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have one. Next thing, you know, we were at City

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<v Speaker 2>Hall booking the plaza and there it was. It was

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<v Speaker 2>like the green light was from there and then we

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<v Speaker 7>So I cannot.

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<v Speaker 3>great mayor Tom Menino, I might say, God rest his soul,

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<v Speaker 3>that he was mayor for twenty years and one of

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<v Speaker 3>us didn't say, Hey, let's have a pizza festival. What

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<v Speaker 3>an opportunity we missed. By the way Naples. I was

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<v Speaker 3>in Naples last summer with some nightside listeners. We did

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<v Speaker 3>roam and then went down to the Amalfi Coast. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if you ever been in the Naples airport.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you've been there many times. We showed up

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<v Speaker 3>there as bus load of us at four am in

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<v Speaker 3>the morning and we couldn't get into the terminal. It

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<v Speaker 3>was packed. It was I thought to myself, we're never

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<v Speaker 3>going to get out of Naples, which wouldn't have been

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<v Speaker 3>a bad thing after all, when you think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't have been there for the for the pizza festival,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was fright as they didn't open up I

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<v Speaker 3>guess the employees didn't show up until four am in

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<v Speaker 3>the morning and they didn't open up the lines, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was like we were there for half an hour

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<v Speaker 3>and nothing was moving, and I'm thinking to myself, we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be stuck here. So that's my memory of

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<v Speaker 3>Naples Airmployer and it was a.

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<v Speaker 7>Lovely definitely, it was lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely controlled chaos at that airport for sure, oh man.

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<v Speaker 3>And well, anyway, so tell us about the specifics. It's

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<v Speaker 3>on the plaza so you can't miss it. What are

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<v Speaker 3>the hours during the day. I assume there's a cover

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<v Speaker 3>charge to get in. Tell us how it works. I

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<v Speaker 3>got a lot of pizza lovers, I'm sure listening and

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<v Speaker 3>are writing this all down.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely So we'll be there Saturday and Sunday, June twenty

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<v Speaker 2>first and second from eleven am to six pm. And

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<v Speaker 2>this year we have a ten dollars cover but in

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<v Speaker 2>that ten dollars comes two slices of pizza, any any toppings.

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<v Speaker 2>You can use those tickets to, you know, redeem those

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<v Speaker 2>tickets at any pizza EA. And it really is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a celebration of pizza. But it's it's an event that

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<v Speaker 2>you know from my eyes and you know my perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we bring everybody together. You know, everybody loves pizza.

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<v Speaker 2>And honestly, if you don't love pizza, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if I can trust you. But for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody loves pizza. It's a really good family gathering. It's

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<v Speaker 2>become a staple in the city of Boston.

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<v Speaker 7>And yeah, I just can't wait we have these.

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<v Speaker 3>Put let me make sure I understand this, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to make sure my audience gets it. So ten

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<v Speaker 3>dollars per person, adults or children. It's a ten dollar

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<v Speaker 3>charge per person? Correct?

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<v Speaker 7>Correct?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? Like nobody kids under two? They I hope they're

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna eat a lot of pizza. Is there like

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<v Speaker 3>one of those things where kids under a certain age

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<v Speaker 3>are free? Or is it? You know if you walk

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<v Speaker 3>in with it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, children five and under don't won't pay it, won't

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<v Speaker 2>need a ticket.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, don't bury the lead here, gian Kala, we

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<v Speaker 3>got it. You know, there's a lot of families out

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<v Speaker 3>there where they for twenty dollars a mom and a

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<v Speaker 3>dad and a couple of kids under five, they're golden.

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<v Speaker 3>So how many pizza vendors? How many shops are going

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<v Speaker 3>to be set up on the plaza?

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<v Speaker 7>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, obviously you'll have I'm sure many, But what's

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<v Speaker 3>the what do you think you'll have in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>vendors there?

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have thirty different pizza rias. Some coming all the

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<v Speaker 2>way from Italy and fifty six vendors total, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have dessert, we'll have gelato. We have so many

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<v Speaker 2>other additors other than pizza. But the cool part of

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<v Speaker 2>this year is we have a pizza festival from Italy

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<v Speaker 2>joining us we're hosting. It's called Pizza Avico and they're

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<v Speaker 2>from the peninsula of Sorrento in Vico Quinca, Italy, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're a really world renowned pizza festival and we're so grateful.

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<v Speaker 2>They're bringing the top pizza makers in Italy and they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a part of our event this year.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been in Sorrento. Beautiful city. I really hi, very

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<v Speaker 3>some very nice shops in Sorrento. By the way, have

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<v Speaker 3>you been in Sorrento.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I love it. There's nothing like those nights in Sorrento.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, really it really is. So look, I assume that

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<v Speaker 3>you'll be able to perhaps purchase a beer or two

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<v Speaker 3>if you want at the festal yes, absolutely, just want

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure in case. I don't want anyone to

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<v Speaker 3>suffer from dehydration. Okay, you know, I'm just I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty thoughtful guy here and I want to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>everybody's happy. Well, this is great. Saturday June twenty first,

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday June twenty second. How big a crowd do you

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<v Speaker 3>think you're going to get? In all honesty, you're talking.

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<v Speaker 2>About you know, last year we did twenty five thousand

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<v Speaker 2>people over the weekend, and this year, you know we

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<v Speaker 2>we should be you know, right around those those numbers,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, increasing our marketing efforts and partnerships and

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<v Speaker 2>some really cool activations. It really is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a great event.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you and they were night side listeners right

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<v Speaker 3>now who are marking it on their calendar, on their calendar.

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<v Speaker 3>So I thank you so much for you amazing tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>I loved Italy, I love pizza, and you sound like

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<v Speaker 3>a great guy, and it's going to be a fabulous event.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks so much for joining us tonight and spending a

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<v Speaker 3>few minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>And please be my guest, come eat some pizza with us.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if I'm in town that weekend, you know

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to stop by and I'll find you. I

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<v Speaker 3>will find you no matter what. Okay, I will buy

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<v Speaker 3>my tickets, but I will find you nonetheless. Thanks Gincla.

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<v Speaker 7>I appreciate it. Thank you having wonderful evening.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you you too, Bonaie. Thanks. We will take a

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<v Speaker 3>break right after the eight thirty news. We're going to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about a very serious effort. It's called Hope for

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<v Speaker 3>I got to get the precise name here. It's Haymakers

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<v Speaker 3>for Charity. It's a Haymaker's charity event. It's a boxing

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<v Speaker 3>program at Haymakers for Hope is what it's called, at

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<v Speaker 3>the MGM Music Hall right next to Fenway Park. We're

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<v Speaker 3>going to talk with one of the boxers, Ben Heller,

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<v Speaker 3>who is boxing and is involved in this because of

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<v Speaker 3>some medical issues with his wife and his mom. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a great story and we'll talk with Ben Heller right

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<v Speaker 3>after the break, and then later on I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about a Massachusetts crisis in mathematics for our students.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not getting better in Massachusetts. We'll explain both right

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<v Speaker 3>after the news at the bottom of the hour. My

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<v Speaker 2>With Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, welcome back everyone. There is a an event

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<v Speaker 3>coming up that we want to make you aware of.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been an event that has been around for some time,

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<v Speaker 3>uh and the event is next we'll actually strike that

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<v Speaker 3>it's May eighth. Let me double check and make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that is not this Saturday, and it's not next It's

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<v Speaker 3>it's a Thursday night if I'm reading my calendar correctly. Here, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Thursday night at the MGM Music Hall right by Fenway Park.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called Haymakers for Hope. It's also rock and Rumble

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<v Speaker 3>fourteen with us is one of the PIP participants. Ben Heller, Ben,

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to night Side. How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm great, how are you?

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for having me good.

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<v Speaker 3>I've watched some of your video and I've have a

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<v Speaker 3>bumping into the street. I'm not gonna want to fight you. You're

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<v Speaker 3>you're a you're a boxer. You have done this. You

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<v Speaker 3>have not done this your entire life. But you're taking

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<v Speaker 3>it very seriously and for a great cause. Your wife

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<v Speaker 3>is a warrior. You mentioned she was diagnosed with h

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<v Speaker 3>with breast cancer and has an aggressive form. First of all,

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<v Speaker 3>how she doing today?

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<v Speaker 1>She's doing pretty well today. She she is, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>a warrior and battles real hard every day. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>three teenage kids and she makes it a priority. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>she makes a priority that just to be in their

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<v Speaker 1>lives as normal as possible, and so she's she's a

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<v Speaker 1>mom first and foremost and running around with the kids

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<v Speaker 1>and she's doing she's doing really well.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, now, when did you take up boxing? If you

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<v Speaker 3>don't mind, you're fifty years old. I looked at the video. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>and and you look like you clearly can handle yourself

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<v Speaker 3>in the ring. I'm very impressed. Uh, this is uh

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<v Speaker 3>the this is a serious activity. You work in real estate,

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<v Speaker 3>you're a real estate advisor. When yeah, I know why

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<v Speaker 3>you box, But how long have.

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<v Speaker 7>You done it?

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<v Speaker 3>Because you look like you're pretty accomplished to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've been trained. So I participated in last year's event,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't start training specifically for that. My oldest

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<v Speaker 1>daughter had asked me about boxing. You know, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>a boxing fan my whole life. We were talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a gym down the street from our house, and

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<v Speaker 1>we kept driving by it. She wanted to go in.

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<v Speaker 1>So she and I went in one day and just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, did a couple of classes and there's she

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<v Speaker 1>and I and then I kept going with it, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, seemed to be good.

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<v Speaker 7>Enough at it that they.

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<v Speaker 1>Threw my hat in the ring for Haymakers given my

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<v Speaker 1>story with my wife, and so I trained last year

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<v Speaker 1>and ended up raising two hundred and eighty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>last year for my fight. And the fight didn't win

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<v Speaker 1>with my hand being held above my head, which feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I had some unfinished business. So I got an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to do it again this year, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>just kept training through and here we are. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was a middle brother of three boys, so I

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<v Speaker 1>saw a lot growing up, but I was never trained

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<v Speaker 1>out of box.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I did the same thing as a kid. I

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<v Speaker 3>grew up in the city, not the mean streets of

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<v Speaker 3>the city, but I grew up in Boston and everyone

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm a little older than you are, and

427
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<v Speaker 3>every once in a while you got into a beef

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<v Speaker 3>and that's the way you settled it. Back in those days,

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<v Speaker 3>you weren't pulling out a gun or a knife or

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<v Speaker 3>anything out. And I boxed one time, just for a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to buy you with the story, but

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<v Speaker 3>it was on TV. I was anchoring the early newscast

433
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<v Speaker 3>on Channel five, and when the rock First Rocky movie

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<v Speaker 3>came out, boxed for a minute. It was exhausting, and

435
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<v Speaker 3>I was in pretty good shape. I got to tell you,

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<v Speaker 3>I have great respect for anybody who boxes because you know,

437
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<v Speaker 3>and again you probably trained for it, you know, how

438
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<v Speaker 3>to breathe better and all of that. But it's an

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<v Speaker 3>exhausting experience. How do you raise the money? Do you

440
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<v Speaker 3>have people supporting you? What can we do to help you?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, it's it really is a you know,

442
00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:12.279
<v Speaker 1>it takes a village. Our community has really come out

443
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<v Speaker 1>for Amanda and me, and it's been a lot of

444
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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people from all, you know, corners of

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<v Speaker 1>our life have come forward and just made the donation.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, some people as little as twenty five bucks

447
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<v Speaker 1>in some pretty sizable checks. But it's been a you know,

448
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<v Speaker 1>really humbling to have our community come out and show

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<v Speaker 1>us love and support. And everybody always wants to know

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<v Speaker 1>what they can do, like what can we do to

451
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<v Speaker 1>help you? And you know, this is really what people

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<v Speaker 1>can do because you know, Amanda and I are you know,

453
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<v Speaker 1>we're trying to live a normal life, trying to fight

454
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<v Speaker 1>this with everything we've got. And at the end of

455
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<v Speaker 1>the day, the Breast Cancer Research Foundation, who we're raising

456
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<v Speaker 1>money for, you know, they funded the development of the

457
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<v Speaker 1>drug that is keeping Amanda alive today. And so like

458
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<v Speaker 1>these dollars really do matter. It's not like it goes

459
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<v Speaker 1>into this bay the thiss that you know, you don't

460
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<v Speaker 1>know if it ever makes a difference. But this, you know,

461
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<v Speaker 1>this was in Boston. The woman that started this research

462
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<v Speaker 1>project that ended up developing into sassaitusm MAP, which is

463
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<v Speaker 1>the name of the drug that Amta is on. Like

464
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<v Speaker 1>it was born here in Boston, and it's like it's

465
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<v Speaker 1>really close to us, and it really makes a difference.

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<v Speaker 3>So people who are listening tonight, can they just donate

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<v Speaker 3>directly to the charity or do you have a specific

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<v Speaker 3>place they can donate which is associated with your event

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<v Speaker 3>this' upcoming.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look up Haymakers for Hope and it lifts

471
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<v Speaker 1>all the fighters, Ben Heller's there and you can donate

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<v Speaker 1>through me and that way it goes to Breast Cancer

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<v Speaker 1>Research Foundation. Each fighter can nominate any sort of cancer

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<v Speaker 1>charity they want, but Breast Cancer Research Foundation is what's

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<v Speaker 1>really near and dear to us. And we've become very

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<v Speaker 1>involved in the organization, and Haymakers for Hope is an

477
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<v Speaker 1>extremely well run, compassionate organization, And you know, I really

478
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<v Speaker 1>am so grateful to have the opportunity to do this again.

479
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<v Speaker 1>It's you know, boxing is a really difficult thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I sort of put it in the context

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<v Speaker 1>of fighting for one's life, you know, against cancer, getting

482
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<v Speaker 1>in the ring is really nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>No, well, it's something. But I do understand that the

484
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<v Speaker 3>larger fight that you're going to win here is for Amanda.

485
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<v Speaker 3>So if they just go to the website Haymakers for

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<v Speaker 3>Hope dot Org, I assume that's a correct at it

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<v Speaker 3>or and then they.

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<v Speaker 1>Read it and then yeah, and then Benjamin Heller and

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<v Speaker 1>you can say, you know, donate here, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate everything. If we between last year's fight and

491
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<v Speaker 1>this year's fight, we're at about four hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars, So I really want to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>get the half a million dollars, which is way more

494
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<v Speaker 1>than I ever expected. And it's just like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it really makes a difference. And you know, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>new study that's been you know, a grant that's been

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<v Speaker 1>given an Amanda's honor at Breast Cancer Search Foundation from

498
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<v Speaker 1>last year's site, and we really want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that we give them every resource they have to go

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<v Speaker 1>out and try to find a cure. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not giving up hope.

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<v Speaker 3>So again, this is a Thursday night, May eighth, seven thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>I assume that it's open to the public. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>public event. I'm I'm assuming a matter of fact, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>You can you can buy tickets on the same website.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've gone right here to your website, which is great.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a there's a picture of you, of you the donation.

508
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<v Speaker 3>It's at the MGM Music Hall everybody. There's where you

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<v Speaker 3>get tickets and it says donate to Benjamin, which means

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<v Speaker 3>that you make the donation to your to the charity.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have any idea who you'll end up fighting

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<v Speaker 3>that night?

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<v Speaker 7>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've met him before. His name is Parker Willard.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a god but my age, a couple of years

516
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<v Speaker 1>younger than me. Tough guy. You know, I've done a

517
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<v Speaker 1>lot of time fundraising. I gotta I gotta spend these

518
00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:04.440
<v Speaker 1>last couple of weeks training some more. He's gonna give

519
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<v Speaker 1>it as all.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>He fought before too, and he's got a cause that's

522
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<v Speaker 1>just as important to mine as mine. So we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give it all in the ring for a good cause.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, for for six minutes, we're gonna

525
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<v Speaker 1>sort of forget that we're amateurs and go out there

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<v Speaker 1>and pretend that we're this is what we do for

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<v Speaker 1>a living.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's uh, also it's great. Is it two three

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<v Speaker 3>minute rounds to three two minute rounds?

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<v Speaker 1>Three rounds?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's okay, that makes more sense, uh, Ben, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>look it sounds like such a great cause. Congratulations to

533
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<v Speaker 3>having the courage to get into the ring. And we

534
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:42.359
<v Speaker 3>wish you and your family and especially Amanda's just all

535
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:44.519
<v Speaker 3>the luck in the world. So they can they go

536
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<v Speaker 3>haymakers for hope. Find your name, Benjamin Heller. Uh and

537
00:28:50.519 --> 00:28:54.400
<v Speaker 3>and you you're you're in the ring, but your family's

538
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:57.119
<v Speaker 3>in the ring with it with a bigger fight, so

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<v Speaker 3>you know, god speed, you know, watch out for those

540
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:05.720
<v Speaker 3>those right hooks. That's the best advice I can give you.

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<v Speaker 3>And donate it, and I should say hopefully so my

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<v Speaker 3>listeners we'll check it out and maybe make a donation.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you again.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I really appreciate it. It's honored to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the air with you. And you know, I'm a kid

546
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<v Speaker 1>from the city of Boston too, and I really appreciate

547
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<v Speaker 1>it so thanks, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Hope, I'm more honored to have you on the air

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00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:26.119
<v Speaker 3>if the truth, you know, because you're doing something that

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00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:28.799
<v Speaker 3>very few people ever get an opportunity to do in

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00:29:28.839 --> 00:29:32.119
<v Speaker 3>their life, and it really does put the sport in perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>So all the luck in the world. I'm sure it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a great night for you and for

554
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<v Speaker 3>your family and raise a lot of money. Thank you,

555
00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:40.400
<v Speaker 3>my friend, we'll talk again.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thank you so much. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Very welcome. Ben, Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Who's going to

558
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<v Speaker 3>get in the ring the age of fifty second time?

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<v Speaker 3>If you go to the website Haymakers for Hope, there's

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<v Speaker 3>some video and this guy has trained. Let me tell you,

561
00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:01.839
<v Speaker 3>he's not the sort of person you want to get

562
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<v Speaker 3>into a disagreement with. He's going to be prepped and

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<v Speaker 3>ready for May eighth at the MGM Music Hall at

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<v Speaker 3>Fenway Park. We'll take a quick break and we'll be

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<v Speaker 3>right back and we're going to finish up and we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to talk about unfortunately some lower than expected scores

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<v Speaker 3>in mathematics for our students here in the Cormwaltha, Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 3>So what can we do to get those scores up.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll find out. Coming back on Nightside, It's Nightside with

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<v Speaker 3>Dan Ray on.

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<v Speaker 7>Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, we're wrapping up our last quick conversation of

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<v Speaker 3>the night. We're going to be talking with Genesis Corella.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a senior policy analyst at ed Trust. Genesis, welcome

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<v Speaker 3>to Nightside.

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<v Speaker 6>How are you good, evening, Dan? I'm doing well.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you okay? I think I know what senior

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<v Speaker 3>policy analysts would mean. But what is ed Trust? I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure that's some sort of a trust. Tell us about it. So.

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<v Speaker 6>Ed Trust is a national organization and we're submitted to

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<v Speaker 6>dismantling racial and economic barriers and set it in the

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<v Speaker 6>American education system. Our approach centers on the analysis of

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<v Speaker 6>data to identify opportunity gaps, indicating for policies that promote equity,

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<v Speaker 6>and working closely with the range of stakeholders to help

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<v Speaker 6>sort of shift the narrative and build momentum around urgent

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<v Speaker 6>needs for systemic improvement.

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<v Speaker 3>Gotcha, are you on a headsetter on a speakerphone by

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<v Speaker 3>any chance? Or no? I'm just having a.

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<v Speaker 6>Little tough you know, I'm just on my phone.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, Oh great, Well, if you then talk right into

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<v Speaker 3>the mouthpiece. It's going to be much better. Okay, that's okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that's going to Yeah, you sound much better already already.

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<v Speaker 3>Oftentimes people hold that mouthpiece a little about their mouth,

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<v Speaker 3>or they hold it a little below their mouth, and

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't sound quite as good when they held it

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<v Speaker 3>right to their mouth. So just please continue to do

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<v Speaker 3>that for us. So the state of math in Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 3>is not good. Tell us why. It's a data driven

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00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:02.839
<v Speaker 3>look at Massachusetts math crisis and what can be done.

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<v Speaker 3>Look like all states kids have suffered as a consequence

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<v Speaker 3>of COVID, but we haven't bounced back yet in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell us what needs to be done.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct.

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<v Speaker 6>So right now, more than half of Massachusetts students aren't

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<v Speaker 6>meeting grade level expectations in maths. So, for example, just

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<v Speaker 6>forty one percent of third through eighth graders that are

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<v Speaker 6>exceeded expectations last year on them. Past and outcomes are

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<v Speaker 6>even more concerning for our black, Latino multi lingual learners,

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<v Speaker 6>students with disabilities, and students from low income backgrounds. And

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<v Speaker 6>it's not just about test scores, it's about opportunity. Without

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<v Speaker 6>strong math skills, students are going to struggle on other subjects,

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<v Speaker 6>use confidence and thinks see your options after high school.

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<v Speaker 6>The issue is complex and there's lots of different factors

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<v Speaker 6>that are sort of contributing to this decline that we're seeing.

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<v Speaker 6>But some of the recommendations that we're putting forth in

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<v Speaker 6>our most recent brief one is establishing a permanent seat

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<v Speaker 6>funding streams to support ongoing development, implementation and evaluation of

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<v Speaker 6>high quality instructional materials. Implementing mandatory statewide early numeracy assessments

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<v Speaker 6>to identify struggling students and provide timely interventions that are targeted,

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<v Speaker 6>which is sort of nearing some of the success that

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<v Speaker 6>we've seen in literacy screenings at closing learning gaps. And

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<v Speaker 6>the last is just to expand invest in professional development

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<v Speaker 6>to deepen mass content knowledge, sort of build on those

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<v Speaker 6>skill sets that teachers have to effectively implement the curriculum.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I know that you probably are aware. It looks

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<v Speaker 3>to me, I'm not sure if you're I think you're

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<v Speaker 3>in Rhode Island. Correct, no problem, But we're talking obviously

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<v Speaker 3>about Massachusetts, and I assume that you are familiar that

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<v Speaker 3>Massachusetts last November voted to eliminate mcasts as a graduation requirement.

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<v Speaker 3>The test will still be administered, but obviously the stakes

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<v Speaker 3>will be much less. Do you think that's a good

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<v Speaker 3>development or poor development in your opinion?

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<v Speaker 6>That's a great question. So at ed Trust, we believe

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<v Speaker 6>that a rigorous, uniform statewide graduation standard of course, paired

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<v Speaker 6>with some strong state oversight, is really essential to ensuring

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<v Speaker 6>that all students, regardless of the district that they attend,

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<v Speaker 6>have equitable access to high school graduation. And so removing

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<v Speaker 6>a standardized graduation requirement means that every district is able

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<v Speaker 6>to choose their own and students are being held to

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<v Speaker 6>different standards and have different preparations for life after high school.

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<v Speaker 6>And so we see that as a real equity issue

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<v Speaker 6>at ed Trust.

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<v Speaker 3>So, okay, you just gave me an answer. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>understand that I heard the words. Is it a good

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<v Speaker 3>development or a poor development overall?

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<v Speaker 1>In your opinion, a poor development?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>My next question then, is one of the things that's

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<v Speaker 3>coming down the line that all of us need to

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<v Speaker 3>be concerned about, not only those of us who are

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<v Speaker 3>out of school, but particularly those of us who have

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<v Speaker 3>kids in school, artificial intelligence. What needs to be done

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure that kids in poorer communities are given

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<v Speaker 3>as many opportunities to be aware of artificial intelligence, how

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<v Speaker 3>to use it and use it properly as kids in

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<v Speaker 3>more affluent communities. Because that's something that concerns me, to

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<v Speaker 3>be really honest with you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that is sort of an emerging issue area. And

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<v Speaker 6>it's not just because in rural schools there's disparities among

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<v Speaker 6>various geographyes, income levels, And it really comes down to

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<v Speaker 6>sort of acknowledging this emerging area and sort of keeping

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<v Speaker 6>up with the twenty first century trends, ensuring that teachers

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<v Speaker 6>are really well equipped to teach AI and sort of

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<v Speaker 6>support students and using it well and effectively, and as

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<v Speaker 6>well as state really strong state guidance to ensure that

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<v Speaker 6>there's guardrails in place to ensure that AI is being

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<v Speaker 6>used adequately by students in an age appropriate way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the concern is that that's the latest thing, and

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<v Speaker 3>it has applications in mathematics, but it also has applications

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<v Speaker 3>in other areas in English writing skills and all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know that kids who are in the who

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<v Speaker 3>were challenging schools, whether it's the private schools or whether

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<v Speaker 3>it's the exam schools in some communities, they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be challenged, But I just don't want to see other

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<v Speaker 3>kids who are in more you know, traditional schools fall

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<v Speaker 3>by the wayside. And I hope that those of you

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<v Speaker 3>who have a much greater voice in you know, education

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<v Speaker 3>and education policy that I do. I hope that you guys,

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<v Speaker 3>you folks, keep them in mind. And I suspect from

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<v Speaker 3>what I what I've heard from you is that you

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<v Speaker 3>will correct.

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<v Speaker 6>I appreciate that. Yes, I think AI can be a

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<v Speaker 6>very powerful tool, but as sort of with any new

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<v Speaker 6>emerging technology, it needs to be used responsibly and shouldn't

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<v Speaker 6>take away from the real critical learning that students should

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<v Speaker 6>be exposed to.

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<v Speaker 3>If folks want to get more information about what your

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<v Speaker 3>group does and the reports that you've written, is there

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<v Speaker 3>an easy website because there are a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>who are very interested in the issues that you're involved in.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there a website that we can direct people to.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, you can read our leadst brief on the map

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<v Speaker 6>I say that ed trust dot org backslast Massachusetts. You

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<v Speaker 6>can sell us on LinkedIn and Twitter at trust m

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<v Speaker 6>A and V are also on Bluesky at trust in m.

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<v Speaker 3>A okay, so it's ED trust So it's just capital

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<v Speaker 3>E and then you know as education the abbreviation E

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<v Speaker 3>lowercase D, capital T lowercase r U, s T dot org,

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<v Speaker 3>slash Massachusetts. Want to make sure that you know some

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<v Speaker 3>of these are case sensitive, and I don't want people

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<v Speaker 3>to be frustrated. It's a capital E and a capital T,

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<v Speaker 3>but all one word ed trust E, D T, r U,

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<v Speaker 3>s T, capital E, CAPITALT dot org. Thanks so much, Genesis.

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<v Speaker 3>I I appreciate it. The work you're doing is very important,

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<v Speaker 3>and I hope people appreciate that. And we've got to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that every kid, whatever their social economic background is,

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<v Speaker 3>gets a good education, as good an education as possible,

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<v Speaker 3>and whether they will end their education with the high

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<v Speaker 3>school diploma or they will go on beyond that, everyone

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<v Speaker 3>has have that opportunity to take advantage of whatever is there,

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<v Speaker 3>because not only do their lives depend on it and

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<v Speaker 3>their futures depend on it, but my social security check

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<v Speaker 3>depends on it. I want to have everybody contributing so

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<v Speaker 3>that all of us can retire and be comfortable. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm joking when I say that, but I think you

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<v Speaker 3>understand the point I'm trying to make thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate your time, Genesis.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>Have a great night.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, bye bye. All right. When we get back,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to talk about a development in Massachusetts which

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<v Speaker 3>troubles me, to be honest with you, we picked up

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<v Speaker 3>a story earlier this week out of the State House

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<v Speaker 3>News Service, in which some legislators out there, the more

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<v Speaker 3>progressive legislators, you know, the folks who wanted to get

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<v Speaker 3>rid of capital punishment many years ago, their progeny now

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<v Speaker 3>would like to get rid of life in prison without parole,

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<v Speaker 3>which to me is crazy. We will be talking with

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<v Speaker 3>a lobbyist for this bill. His name is Daniel Delaney

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<v Speaker 3>of the Delaney Policy Group. He knows we're going to disagree,

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<v Speaker 3>probably on the substance of the conversation, but I'd like

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<v Speaker 3>to give him an opportunity to present his arguments. And

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<v Speaker 3>I also want to hear your phone calls and your

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<v Speaker 3>reaction to this idea, because I think it is a

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<v Speaker 3>dangerous and crazy idea. We'll be back to Night's side

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<v Speaker 3>right after this
