WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:09.759 M hm, weary, weir. 2 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:27.480 Read we can kill. 3 00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:51.679 It, shouting at the wading fish English. What time? Hell? 4 00:00:51.799 --> 00:01:01.119 I welcome back midnight viewers too. Yeah. Oh chuffs, it's 5 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:05.359 the latest edition. Hey, Patreon listeners here in the month 6 00:01:05.400 --> 00:01:07.920 of August. Hello, everyone else in the Maiden Freed sometime 7 00:01:08.040 --> 00:01:08.799 in September. 8 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:10.079 We are back. 9 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:17.040 It is another attempt to examine the lifestyles of predators everywhere. 10 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:22.159 This is our first direct sequel to any of the 11 00:01:22.239 --> 00:01:26.319 films that have come so far. This is Alien versus 12 00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:45.200 Predator Requiem. Here's the trailer. Oh my god, just nobody's home. 13 00:01:52.560 --> 00:02:11.680 Who's outside the window? See no monster? The towels completely overrunning. 14 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:22.520 We'll see on me. He's evacuation plan. Okay, that was 15 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:25.120 part of the trailer, because the majority of the trailer 16 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:29.560 was just sounds, lots of screeching and people shouting and 17 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:34.280 guns going off and lasers blasting and face huggers chittering 18 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:39.840 and alien motion trackers beeping, even though that sound is 19 00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:43.280 from one hundred and seventy years in the future. But 20 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:45.960 I do want to say one thing. At the time 21 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:48.759 that this trailer came out, we were all so far 22 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:54.919 over this franchise and concept that I didn't notice how 23 00:02:55.080 --> 00:02:58.560 good the trailer actually, now I showed this trailer. I 24 00:02:58.639 --> 00:03:01.199 showed this movie as a projection back in two thousand 25 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:06.479 and seven and rewatching the trailer. The trailer's great because 26 00:03:06.520 --> 00:03:09.879 the trailer starts the way the movie should have, which 27 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:13.759 is it slowly introduces us to the town of Gunnison, Colorado, 28 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:16.719 and it shows us the townsfolk, and it gives us 29 00:03:16.759 --> 00:03:19.599 the population, and then it shows the predator or the 30 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:23.800 predator alien ship crashing, and then the population turns into 31 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:27.719 a counter and starts winding down as people in the 32 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:30.639 town start dying in the trailer. It's a great fucking 33 00:03:30.719 --> 00:03:34.919 trailer for a terrible fucking movie. HP. What's your first 34 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:38.479 experience with AVP or was it this was this year 35 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:44.000 inaugural Journey on the Ocean that is Requiem. 36 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:48.560 This literally the first when I watched this for this podcast, 37 00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:51.120 was the very first time I've seen this movie. I'll 38 00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:53.639 tell you what that trailer that you just described that 39 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:55.360 you played a little bit of a minute ago, I 40 00:03:55.400 --> 00:03:58.520 want to see that movie because that's not the movie 41 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:01.719 that I watched the other day for this podcast. But 42 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:02.479 we'll get into it. 43 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:05.039 The first thing I noticed in rewatching the trailer, it 44 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:10.360 was appreciably brighter, like, for instance, you could see everything 45 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:14.039 on screen. It was fascinating. Having seen the movie previously, 46 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:17.759 both theatrically and on home video, and then again for 47 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:20.360 this podcast. You know what I did this time, turned 48 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:22.920 up the brightness on a television screen all the way up, 49 00:04:22.920 --> 00:04:25.600 and I saw everything for the very first time. I 50 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:26.240 wish I'd. 51 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:29.319 Thought of that, because that's one of my chief complaints 52 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:35.560 is that it is so infernally dark and murky and frankly, 53 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:38.639 the editing doesn't do this movie, and he favors either. 54 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:43.600 But on the positive side, the things that I could see, 55 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:46.199 the scenes that were bright enough for me to make 56 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:48.759 out what was going on, I will say this, Father 57 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:51.959 Milonemy might be my highest compliment of this movie is 58 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:57.399 the bits that I could see were actually better cinematically 59 00:04:58.040 --> 00:05:03.199 than the last movie, Alien Versus Predator. This movie did 60 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:06.639 feel more cinematic than that movie. That makes sense. 61 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:09.040 I do understand what you're saying. 62 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:13.720 I'm not suggesting that it was shot extremely well, but 63 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:16.879 it's hard for me to explain that the texture it 64 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:19.120 didn't look as cheap as the last movie. 65 00:05:19.959 --> 00:05:22.160 I understand what you're saying. This feels like a movie 66 00:05:22.279 --> 00:05:27.000 because this movie was directed by people who wanted to 67 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:30.000 make a movie, and the other one was made by 68 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:32.199 a guy who wanted to make a franchise by any 69 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:36.959 means necessary. Those filmmakers here are the brothers Strauss. That's 70 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:40.839 their credit for directing here. Written by Shane Sellerno, the 71 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:45.439 genius behind Armageddon. That's not my description, that's Michael Bay's 72 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:50.000 description of him. Also based on characters and situations created 73 00:05:50.040 --> 00:05:53.160 by Dan O'Bannon and Ronald Schuston and Jim and John Thompson. 74 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:57.920 This movie stars Stephen Pasqualely Ray eko Ailesworth, John Ortiz, 75 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:03.199 Johnny Lewis, Ariel Gade, Sam Trammel, Robert Joy in a 76 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:08.040 role written for Adam Baldwin but scheduling prevented him from 77 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:12.279 portraying Garner once again from Predator Too. And the film 78 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:15.639 also stars Tom Woodruff Junior, and Ian White as the 79 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:22.680 Alien and Predators, respectively. This film starts immediately at the 80 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:25.959 end of the last film, Hpop, what's the story here? 81 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:30.480 So the story here is astute listeners to the podcast 82 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:34.800 will remember that Alien versus Predator ends with the slaying 83 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:38.759 Predator being carried on to his ship by his comrades, 84 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:44.240 and the final shot is a alien predator hybrid chest 85 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:50.079 burster coming out of this dead predator. This movie begins 86 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:54.079 at that very moment where the chest burst the creature 87 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:59.399 comes out of the predator's chest. There's a firefight, and 88 00:07:00.199 --> 00:07:03.160 the ship ends up crash, landing back on Earth before 89 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:05.800 it can leave to get back to the predator home world. 90 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:09.240 So the plot is the ship is crashed. Oh and 91 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:13.839 by the way, there's also face hugger samples critters like 92 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:19.000 in basic class cases, presumably for this predator to seed 93 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:23.160 other hunts. I assume that's why they're there. Sure, So, 94 00:07:23.959 --> 00:07:26.519 so it crashes. Not only does this pre we'll just 95 00:07:26.600 --> 00:07:28.160 call it, I hate to call it this because I 96 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:30.800 think it's a dumb name, but the pread alien as 97 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:33.639 it's referred to, is not only is that on the 98 00:07:33.759 --> 00:07:36.879 loose and wreaking havoc, but these face huggers have gotten 99 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:41.319 out when the ship crashes and almost immediately starts to 100 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:47.079 seed this town in Colorado, this unsuspecting small town in 101 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:53.759 the mountains, and it becomes a Basically they're trying to 102 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:57.399 figure out what's happening and save the town before it's 103 00:07:57.480 --> 00:07:59.720 completely overrun with creatures. 104 00:07:59.800 --> 00:07:59.839 Me. 105 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:04.120 While there's been a distress signal sent to the predator 106 00:08:04.160 --> 00:08:06.800 home world. This was actually cool. Father, This I have 107 00:08:06.920 --> 00:08:09.319 to say, we're gonna be look spoiler alert, we're going 108 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:10.920 to be bagging on this movie a lot. 109 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:13.079 Oh, but we're going to kick the shit out of 110 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:17.319 this movie. But there are some elements that are actually 111 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:18.920 a lot of fun and interesting. 112 00:08:19.720 --> 00:08:23.360 Yeah, namely this where they the distress signal goes back 113 00:08:23.399 --> 00:08:25.920 to the So you see the alien home world and 114 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:28.639 the predator home I'm sorry I said alien, I meant 115 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:34.240 the predator Homeworlducha Prime, Yeah, Oucher Prime. And it's cool looking. 116 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:36.919 It makes me want to see more of it. So 117 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:42.639 a predator there, a Yaucha, gets intercepts the distress signal, 118 00:08:42.720 --> 00:08:46.240 gets into his ship and flies back to or flies 119 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:50.399 to Earth ostensibly to deal with this this crashed ship, 120 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:52.399 find out what's going on, and deal with any of 121 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:56.720 these creatures that have escaped. And that's the scenario that 122 00:08:57.080 --> 00:08:59.639 we're presented with here in this By the way, I 123 00:08:59.720 --> 00:09:02.320 didn't know when we set out to do this. When 124 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:05.600 you gave me my homework, I did realize you were 125 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:11.919 giving me the Robert Altman, Nashville of predator movies, because 126 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:15.919 this movie is sprawling and not in a good way. 127 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:18.399 Like when you were going through the cast list this 128 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:22.000 there's so many. I don't think I even I know 129 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:24.360 one character's name through the whole movie. 130 00:09:25.080 --> 00:09:25.399 That's it. 131 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:29.799 There's probably what there's at least ten twelve main characters 132 00:09:29.879 --> 00:09:31.559 that you're trying to keep track of. 133 00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:34.559 Do you know the is it the lead character Stephen 134 00:09:34.559 --> 00:09:39.159 Pasqually's character's name Dallas Howard, not Bryce Dallas Howard, who 135 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:41.919 was an active actor at that moment in history. Bryce 136 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:44.440 Dallas Howard was, But no, is it Dallas Howard? 137 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:47.960 Yeah, that's Dallas because they I think they use his 138 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:50.799 name more than anybody. There's the sheriff, but that's not 139 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:55.720 really his name. There's Dallas's ne'er do well, younger brother. 140 00:09:56.240 --> 00:09:59.320 I don't know his name. There's a girl that has 141 00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:01.639 the hots for the younger brother. I don't know her name. 142 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:04.879 It's my favorite character because she gets pinned to a 143 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:05.879 wall accidentally. 144 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:08.799 Who is that actor who was in Can't Hardly Wait 145 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:11.559 and that thing you do? Ethan Embry? 146 00:10:12.039 --> 00:10:12.240 Yeah? 147 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:16.159 This the younger Brother was like a poor man's Ethan Embrey. 148 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:18.360 That's I could not stop thinking about him like a 149 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:23.240 photostatic copy of him. There are very few recognizable basis 150 00:10:23.240 --> 00:10:25.080 in this movie. The only one I recognize is John 151 00:10:25.240 --> 00:10:29.039 Ortiz as Sheriff Morales. And that's only because I fucking 152 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:32.320 love that movie Kong Skull Island, and he's one of 153 00:10:32.360 --> 00:10:33.559 the scientists in that movie. 154 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:36.360 See, I recognized him too. He's the only one I 155 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:40.639 recognized for a different movie. He was in Silver Linings Playbook. 156 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:45.240 He was Oh yes, he was married to what's the 157 00:10:45.480 --> 00:10:47.720 what's your name? That's her name? Why am I blanking 158 00:10:47.759 --> 00:10:50.919 earned her name? The one Jennifer Lawrence, save her sister, 159 00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:53.799 Who's say the last dance for me? She was in 160 00:10:53.879 --> 00:10:56.000 one of the Bourne movies. You know, I'm talking about. 161 00:10:56.440 --> 00:11:00.840 Julia Styles and Julius Stiles. He's lit on Bexter. 162 00:11:02.279 --> 00:11:06.679 He's married to Julia Stiles, but he's under so much pressure. 163 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:09.639 He's stressed from the pressures of marriage and having to 164 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:12.720 He's really good in Silver Linings Playbook. That's what I 165 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:16.679 remembered him from. But that's aside from him, I recognized 166 00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:19.360 no one else. I think you made the point that 167 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:21.720 this is like alien versus Predator. 168 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:28.399 The cw avp AVPCW absolutely it feels like a pilot 169 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:33.039 for a CW show, and then fucking face huggers are 170 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:34.399 jumping on people's faces. 171 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:38.159 Yeah, it has that look. That's sort of because this 172 00:11:38.279 --> 00:11:41.919 is two thousand and seven. That's prime time for the CW. 173 00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:46.200 I think was that when did the Archie reinvention take 174 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:47.200 hold on the CW. 175 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:50.720 A little bit later, but this is prime like One 176 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:56.559 Tree Hill and that entire wave of television actors who 177 00:11:56.600 --> 00:11:59.919 had already populated all of the remakes of horror movies 178 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:00.840 at the time. 179 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:04.799 It's like post scream. I think that's it doesn't hurt. 180 00:12:04.840 --> 00:12:07.320 That doesn't help that the movie rather is shot in 181 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:11.200 Vancouver like every fucking CW production. 182 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:15.759 Exactly, and like the CW. The people in this there's 183 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:17.960 people in this movie that are supposed to be high 184 00:12:17.960 --> 00:12:22.639 school kids or high school age like fake like fake 185 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:26.240 Ethan Embry, but him and the girl that he's dating 186 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:29.639 or he's trying to date, and her bully gang that 187 00:12:29.799 --> 00:12:33.080 she's affiliated with, not gang literally, but just a bunch 188 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:36.720 of tough kids. They all look like they're in their 189 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:38.960 mid twenties and they're supposed to be playing high like 190 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:42.080 literal like even if they're seniors. They still look way 191 00:12:42.159 --> 00:12:42.600 too old. 192 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:48.000 And all of these people populating this town are they 193 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:53.120 just are involved in so many fucking subplots. It's out 194 00:12:53.159 --> 00:12:57.039 of hand. It's like when we talked about alien versus Predator, 195 00:12:57.080 --> 00:13:00.879 I said, it doesn't it doesn't endear it character to 196 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:05.879 us for them to rifle out some line of dialogue 197 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:08.399 about I have a family at home. Oh okay, now 198 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:11.519 I care about you. This film seems to double down 199 00:13:12.120 --> 00:13:15.120 on that idiotic notion by giving us a bunch of 200 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:18.799 stories with characters we don't care about, in the most 201 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:22.960 cliched plots possible. Here is the brother, the bad boy 202 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:25.960 brother who has been in prison, returning to the small town. 203 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:28.960 How's he going to fit back in? And his younger brother, 204 00:13:29.440 --> 00:13:32.600 his ne'er do well younger brother, who's constantly being beaten up, 205 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:35.200 and he can't get the girl, but he's trying real hard. 206 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:40.639 And now the military woman returning home and her daughter 207 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:45.159 doesn't recognize her. At what is any of this? There's 208 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:49.360 a fucking a there's a face hugger on a hunter 209 00:13:49.639 --> 00:13:52.919 in the forest right now, and something's going to burst 210 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:54.799 out of them. And you're all none of your stories 211 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:57.919 are going to matter. But we spend so much time 212 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:00.480 with their stories in this ninety minute movie. 213 00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:04.960 It's exhausting. My head is spinning in the first fifteen 214 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:09.559 minutes because they're throwing character after subplot, and these subplots 215 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:12.200 you can see them coming a mile away, like this 216 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:14.720 sort of high school kid who's trying to get the 217 00:14:14.799 --> 00:14:18.159 girl but her boyfriend's a bully and all this. And then, 218 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:21.200 like you said, the military mom comes home and the 219 00:14:21.320 --> 00:14:24.960 daughter he doesn't. She's having trouble adjusting to her having 220 00:14:25.000 --> 00:14:28.600 her back. That there's a sheriff. There's this hunter and 221 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:30.919 his son that are I think they're the first people 222 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:35.559 that are killed. I will say this, this movie is 223 00:14:36.600 --> 00:14:42.279 not afraid to get really ugly, like very distasteful, Like 224 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:46.200 I'm no prude when it comes to movies whatever, but 225 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:50.519 it gets ugly quick. So this the ship crashes and 226 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:54.080 this hunter and his young son, what's the kids supposed 227 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:56.240 to be like nine years old or something. Yeah, they 228 00:14:56.360 --> 00:14:59.679 go out to investigate the ship and one of the 229 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:02.639 face huggers jumps at the father, who shoots it with 230 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:07.240 his rifle, but the acid from the face hugger's blood 231 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:11.279 gets on his arm and the arm falls off in 232 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:14.799 front the child. Is watching all of this, and then 233 00:15:14.840 --> 00:15:17.720 the face hugger comes out and slams on the dad, 234 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:19.919 and then it slams on the kid. And then they 235 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:22.960 wake up later and the son wakes up just in 236 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:26.320 time to watch a face hugger burst out of his 237 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:32.480 father before another one bursts out of him. Man, it 238 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:33.200 is dark. 239 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:39.440 This is the assault on Precinct thirteen of Predator movies. Sure, 240 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:43.799 no holds barred here. Look, you've got young filmmakers. This 241 00:15:44.039 --> 00:15:47.480 is their first film. They've been pitching a alien versus 242 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:51.120 Predator movie since they had come to Hollywood. They are 243 00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:54.159 a couple of visual effects guys. Okay, they had moved 244 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:59.559 out after seeing Aliens. So inspired were they that they 245 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:02.120 came out out and tried to get a job on ILM. 246 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:06.360 Ended up working freelance on a bunch of properties. Ended 247 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:09.759 up forming Hydraulics, which is their visual effects company. They 248 00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:11.519 did a bunch of music videos and stuff. They would 249 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:14.639 eventually do that movie. What was it Sky? Something in 250 00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:17.519 the Sky Skyrise, Scott? 251 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:20.639 Was it Skyrise either that or Skyscraper? I know the 252 00:16:20.679 --> 00:16:21.440 one you're talking about. 253 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:24.399 No, it was the one where the people are being 254 00:16:24.519 --> 00:16:27.519 taken up into the alien ships like the Rapture. 255 00:16:28.480 --> 00:16:30.480 Oh oh, the not the rock movie. 256 00:16:31.039 --> 00:16:32.600 No, No, not that thing. 257 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:34.440 All right, I'm going to look it up here. I 258 00:16:34.519 --> 00:16:35.559 know the one you're talking about. 259 00:16:35.360 --> 00:16:40.799 Because Skyline Skyline with Eric Balfour, who was a guy 260 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:42.440 I thought was going to be a huge actor but 261 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:45.480 then ended up doing virtually nothing. Yeah, they'd eventually do 262 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:47.639 Skyline as their next feature, and they produced a bunch 263 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:49.639 of sort of offshoots of it. But this is the 264 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:53.440 movie that they wanted to do, and they, like I said, 265 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:55.679 they pitched a version of their own version of Ailie 266 00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:58.559 Verse Spreader that got turned down. That was before the 267 00:16:58.759 --> 00:17:02.519 Paul Anderson movie. And then when this movie came together 268 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:05.359 very quickly, which feels like a we got to keep 269 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:08.599 the rights situation, like we made enough money on the 270 00:17:08.680 --> 00:17:10.640 last one, but we got to make this real quick 271 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:14.039 with the crew that we already have. These guys got 272 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:18.200 hired with one month to make the movie. So that's 273 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:20.839 where the behind the scenes is is where we're at. 274 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:24.279 But if you're working on a very tight timeline and 275 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:27.240 you're trying to make this thing ostensibly on the cheap 276 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:30.000 and be efficient about it, like the last thing that 277 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:32.920 I would do is deal with a movie that is 278 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:35.519 so I keep using the word sprawling, but there's no 279 00:17:35.640 --> 00:17:38.039 other word for it. There's so much ground to cover 280 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:41.839 with every subplot, and there's it's just it gets so 281 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:45.480 exhausting trying to keep track of everyone when all you're 282 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:49.079 really doing as a viewer some a fan who's coming 283 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:51.480 to this movie is you're just waiting for the mayhem 284 00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:55.519 to start and it just takes forever. There's no real 285 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:57.920 This is a problem that we talked about with the 286 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:01.880 last Dailien move Alia versus Predator Boo. There's no suspense. Really, 287 00:18:01.960 --> 00:18:06.000 this movie is mostly about gore, I think, because like 288 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:07.880 I said, it's not afraid to get ugly. There's a 289 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:11.519 lot of gory, nasty effects with this. It's an R 290 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:12.200 rated movie. 291 00:18:12.359 --> 00:18:16.440 Correct, it wasn't it, But yeah, the previous film was PG. 292 00:18:16.559 --> 00:18:18.359 Thirteen and was much derided for that. 293 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:22.039 So if you came to this looking for for a 294 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:24.279 lot of blood and a lot of violence, then you 295 00:18:24.400 --> 00:18:27.240 came to the right place. My problem with it was 296 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:29.519 that I just found some of it. Again, at the 297 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:32.559 risk of sounding like a prude, I just found it distasteful. 298 00:18:32.640 --> 00:18:34.759 Not to skip ahead too much, but there's even a 299 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:40.079 scene where the predators or the aliens are taking over 300 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:44.160 a hospital and there's a woman there, a pregnant woman 301 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:47.319 who's being attended to by a nurse. The nurse is 302 00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:50.799 dispatch by the alien, and then the predator alien comes 303 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:55.480 in and impregnates a pregnant woman right there, and then 304 00:18:56.319 --> 00:19:01.519 multiple times right and then through plot machinations, the heroes 305 00:19:01.640 --> 00:19:04.160 end up there. We'll talk about why and how they're there. 306 00:19:04.759 --> 00:19:09.759 And this poor pregnant woman is webbed up like victims 307 00:19:09.799 --> 00:19:11.400 of aliens are. We've all seen it in all the 308 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:15.960 alien movies. And sure enough, the chest bursting happens, but 309 00:19:16.079 --> 00:19:19.559 like you said, it's not just one alien. There's many 310 00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:24.880 aliens bursting out of a poor pregnant woman's belly. It's just, 311 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:27.079 I don't know, it just seemed very It just seemed 312 00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:28.599 in poor taste in my opinion. 313 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:31.680 Look, this is a very mean This is the meanest 314 00:19:31.759 --> 00:19:34.000 of any of the films, and it did come out. 315 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:36.920 Like I said, My point was about talking about the 316 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:40.640 brother straus Werg was these are young filmmakers in two 317 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:44.359 thousand and seven. If you remember, back then, the saw 318 00:19:44.519 --> 00:19:49.440 movies and torture porn was all the rage. So it's 319 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:52.480 not unexpected that it would seep into this movie, but 320 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:56.759 it doesn't. You know what I want to say, because 321 00:19:56.759 --> 00:20:00.359 I agree with you, it is distasteful. Nevertheless, it's the 322 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:02.640 most memorable part of the movie. It's probably the best 323 00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:05.400 part of the movie. Like all of those scenes, The 324 00:20:05.559 --> 00:20:07.799 actual best part of the movie is what you mentioned, 325 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:13.599 which is that they have a predator character here nicknamed Wolf, 326 00:20:14.599 --> 00:20:18.480 named for Winston Wolf, the Harvey kai Tell character from 327 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:21.079 Pulp Fiction. Because he's a cleaner, which means he's technically 328 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:24.680 named after Victor from The Fun Nikita or just Nikita 329 00:20:25.119 --> 00:20:29.400 if you're in France, because he's basically a bounty hunter 330 00:20:29.559 --> 00:20:32.400 character who picks up the distress signal. My favorite part 331 00:20:32.440 --> 00:20:35.079 of the entire movie, HB is the fact that our 332 00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:39.440 lead predator alien is effectively Bruce Wayne because he's just 333 00:20:39.519 --> 00:20:42.119 sitting in his chair. It's Bruce Wayne from Batman Returns. 334 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:46.000 He's just sitting in a chair doing nothing, and then 335 00:20:46.200 --> 00:20:48.599 a little screen pulls down and says, hey, there's action 336 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:50.559 on Earth, and he's like, I'm on it. 337 00:20:51.240 --> 00:20:55.039 It's cool. Because he goes to his back wall, there's 338 00:20:55.079 --> 00:20:59.359 a whole bank of different predator helmets and he looks 339 00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:02.519 he's just like Batman. He looks, he picks one that 340 00:21:02.799 --> 00:21:04.160 is well suited for he. 341 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:08.240 Picks the one that looks most like Casey Jones from TMNT, And. 342 00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:10.440 Yeah, I wanted more of that. Now. The thing of 343 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:15.480 it is, I guess the ultimately like the notion of 344 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:19.000 a predator of this crash and a predator having to 345 00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:22.039 come and clean up the mess and deal with it. 346 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:26.799 That actually is a really compelling idea for a movie 347 00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:30.039 like and actually a part of its time in making 348 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:32.359 the predator kind of the protagonist. 349 00:21:32.799 --> 00:21:35.640 It would have been a Private Eye movie with the 350 00:21:35.759 --> 00:21:38.839 Predator as the gum shoe. I fucking loved it. 351 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:41.640 I thought that would have been so cool, and I 352 00:21:41.799 --> 00:21:45.160 was hoping by then, by the time you meet this predator, 353 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:48.759 I knew that I wasn't getting that movie. I just 354 00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:51.960 there had been too many red flags leading up to 355 00:21:52.079 --> 00:21:56.599 that scene. But I guess there is a great idea 356 00:21:56.759 --> 00:22:00.240 for a movie there. It's just not written well, it's 357 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:03.000 not executed well, it's not directed well, and it's not 358 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:06.480 edited well. But someone somewhere could have made a great 359 00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:08.079 movie out of that idea. 360 00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:11.440 In a lot of ways, this movie feels like a 361 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:17.240 direct response to Alien versus Predator. Whereas that film sided 362 00:22:17.559 --> 00:22:20.960 with the aliens, this one sided more with the Predator, 363 00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:25.359 and that one was PG. Thirteen. So they went not 364 00:22:25.519 --> 00:22:29.599 only are they went hard r for this one, and 365 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:33.960 according to cinematographer Daniel Pearl, he felt the previous film 366 00:22:34.079 --> 00:22:37.400 was too well lit with too many lockdown cameras, and 367 00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:39.839 he wanted to change that by turning off all the 368 00:22:39.960 --> 00:22:43.559 lights and swinging the camera around wildly on a cameraman's back. 369 00:22:44.200 --> 00:22:47.880 So confusing. There were scenes. There was a scene where 370 00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:51.400 the Predator's finally squaring off against all of these xenomorphs, 371 00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:55.440 and as a movie actually actually thought what I thought 372 00:22:55.559 --> 00:22:58.680 in watching it. One particular scene, I thought that he 373 00:22:58.839 --> 00:23:04.079 had killed the Predator alien hybrid because it was so confusing. 374 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:07.759 But no that they obviously leave that confrontation till the 375 00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:10.880 very end of the movie, as they should. But it's 376 00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:14.240 not a good sign when I'm losing track of characters 377 00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:18.519 and not understanding what's happening action wise. It's not mapped 378 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:22.799 out well. It's herky jerky camera and editing, and it's 379 00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:25.640 just so dark you can't see anything. I should have 380 00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:28.240 bumped up the brightness on my computer when I watched 381 00:23:28.279 --> 00:23:30.200 this that was the smart thing to do bottom along. 382 00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:33.079 And when I showed the movie, I controlled the brightness 383 00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:35.720 in the theater. By the way, let me just say 384 00:23:35.880 --> 00:23:37.920 for most of you who are still going to movie theaters, 385 00:23:37.960 --> 00:23:42.039 and you should, if your screen seems dim, definitely go 386 00:23:42.200 --> 00:23:45.359 complain and tell them to stop skimping on hours on 387 00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:47.440 their bulb, because that's what they're doing. 388 00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:51.160 Let me ask you, actually, another sort of question about that. 389 00:23:51.759 --> 00:23:58.839 Because everything is predominantly digital projections now, is it. It's 390 00:23:58.880 --> 00:24:00.799 not the same process by which you have a light 391 00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:02.960 bulb that's illuminating a piece of celluloid. 392 00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:05.960 So how prevalent is that there's still a light bulb? 393 00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:06.839 Really? 394 00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:10.440 Oh, yes, you're still throwing light. 395 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:12.880 I guess you would have to be, because it's not 396 00:24:13.119 --> 00:24:14.200 the bulb you're watching it. 397 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:17.279 Yeah, the bulb has not changed. It's still a big 398 00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:21.880 motherfucking xenon bulb man. And so you can throw out 399 00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:24.519 the same amount of light, if not more, because they're 400 00:24:24.640 --> 00:24:27.880 the reflectors are even better now. The fact is those 401 00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:31.480