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Speaker 2: Well, well, well good at afternoon to everybody, thanks for

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joining me.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: I'm doctor Jeff Webber, your host of Asked Pats with

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Doctor Jeff. Here on pet Life Radio and here on

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this lovely at least here in Los Angeles, lovely Thursday afternoon,

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nice and sunny. It's getting cold here. You know. We

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talked about the cold weather, and I get a lot

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of questions now about as I call it, winter rising

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your pets. We'll get to that in a few minutes.

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And so I'm talking. I just did an interview for

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a blog yesterday and we're talking about how it's getting

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cold here in southern California. I mean for here, cold

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and southern California means when you go out at night

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you need to have a sweater. It it's like, oh

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my god, it hits fifty and we're starting to complain.

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So I guess we're pretty spoiled here. But I know

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in many of the parts of the country it's a

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lot colder, and I'm actually waiting for skiing snowboard weather.

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We have Mammoth California in the Sierras, and I see

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it's getting down to thirteen and nine, and I think

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during the weekend it's going to hit three below. That

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makes me very happy because that means we're going to

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get some good snow and good skiing and snowboard weather. Anyway,

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we had a great Thanksgiving. I hope you all had

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a great Thanksgiving. I hope it was all safe for everybody.

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I know that we were hoping to be able to

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air live you want Thanksgiving, but again with the festivities

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and everybody doing their thing, wasn't so easy. But as

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I said, I hope that everybody had a nice, safe

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things Giving. We avoided all the things that we need

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to avoid, and we'll talk more about some of those things, because,

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let's face it, the holiday meal Christmas coming up is

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very similar. We're going to eat a lot of foods

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that are fantastic, fantastic tasting for us. I don't know

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how good they are for us, but you know how

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we are. We're willing to sacrifice a little bit for

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the good taste. But our pets aren't always so lucky

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because they get a lot more than just feeling full

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after a big meal when that big meal includes eating

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some of the wrong things, which again we will discuss morble.

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we'll just breaking any time free phone call eight seven

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seven three eight five eight eight a two. Meanwhile, let's

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talk a little bit about winter rising your pet. What

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does that mean? You know so often when we sawk

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spring in summer, and we've talked about it here on

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Pet Life Radio on our show. What some precautions we

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need to make once the weather starts getting hot? But

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what about when the weather is getting cold? We still

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have the same precautions. Are their concerns? The truth matter

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is absolutely there are some concerns and they deal with

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the opposite. Instead of overheating, we call hyperthermia when it

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comes to the cold weather in many parts of the country.

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I spoke to somebody the other day whose family lives

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in Minnesota and they are already freezing. I was in

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New York two weeks ago, two weekends ago, I did

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a segment on Fox and Friends Sunday morning with my

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good friend Tucker Carlson, and then I shot a segment

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on The Better Show. And I'm we're gonna post the

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link to the Better Show segment up on the pet

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Life Radio website. You can click on and see the segment,

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A great segment about the holidays, so you'll get some

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extra added information and I'll share that with you as well.

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And there it actually Saturday night it was started to snow.

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It didn't stick very long because it wasn't that cold.

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But the weather is starting to change in many parts

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of the country, and those of us here in the

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spoiled as we're not going to see snow, at least

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not in the cities. But I think the key is

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keys to know is that yes, dogs get cold, and

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we need to take some precautions. And it's not just

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the cold weather the temperature, it's also the wind chill.

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And just like we need to provide a certain amount

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of shade for a dog's outdoors, we need to provide

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shade from the wind, some protection from the wind as well,

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and just little things to think about. You know, first

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of all, water when it's below freezing, and our dogs

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have a tendency to freeze or get very cold. The

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water that you left out for them in the water bowl, well,

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that can freeze too. And so again that's a concern

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because if a dog who needs water, if it's really

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cold and they're out there for hours and hours, the

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the water that was left for them outside may now

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be just a big block of ice, and that's not

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very effective in rehydrating them when they have to lick

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on ice, let alone the fact that their tongue might

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stick to the ice. So oh, another thing, remember we

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talked about when dogs overheat. The problem is that dogs

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don't sweat. Where do they exchange heat. They exchange heat

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from the pads of their feet and the tip of

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their nose. Well, when you have freezing temperatures and dogs

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are walking on snow and ice or extremely cold ground.

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are now an amazing entry point for the cold. So

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we need to protect those feet because that's where we

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can see the onset of hyperthermia. That's one of the

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ways that this cold enters the body, and certainly a coat.

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Dog's coats we talk about this when we talk about

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spring and summer is like a thermos so it regulates

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their core body temperature. It protects them both ways. It

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protects them from the extreme heat raising the body temperature,

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but also protects them from the cold, lowering the body temperature.

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So it's very important to make sure your dog's coats

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are in good shape, good condition, not matted. The skin

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is in good shape, well brushed, well groomed, and then

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the coat acts and works the way it is supposed

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to work, and that is as an insulator. So don't

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shave those coats down. But don't be fooled either when

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you say to yourself, well, we don't dog doesn't need

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that fur coat because he's got his own fur. We

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have to know a couple of basic facts about the

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body and how the body regulates. Those of you who

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have had dogs that have sadly been treated for cancer.

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And when we figure out doses of cancer drugs, they're

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not necessarily done by body weight. They're done by what

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we call a meter squared basis, which is a body

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surface area as compared to their body weight. And small dogs,

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dogs say under twenty five pounds twenty pounds, have a

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much larger surface area in relation to their actual bodyweight

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in pounds or kilograms. Therefore, they have a much greater

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ability to lose body temperature, their core temperature to the

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outside environment when that outside environment is extremely cold. So

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when you see these little dogs, these little palms in

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Chihuahuas and Maltese and you name it, wearing little sweaters,

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those sweaters are actually beneficial. When you see a Great

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Dane or a German shepherd, or a Rottweiler or a

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labrador wearing sweaters, that might be a fashion statement, they

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don't need it as much, but absolutely small breeds in very,

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very cold weather should have some protection because their body

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surface area as compared to their body weight is much greater.

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So for those of you who laugh at those dogs,

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stop laughing. They need those little sweaters. And another good

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idea for a number of reasons are booties because booties

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will a protect the actual heat exchange or the heat

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loss onto that cold surface snow or ice. But also

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a lot of municipalities, as we know, to control the ice,

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will actually lay down salt onto the ground. Well, that

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salt or any chemical they put on the ground as

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a de icer could be very irritative to our dogs

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and cat's feet. So I think it's not a bad

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idea in the very cold weather as well to put

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on something as a pad or a paw protector. In fact,

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one of the brands out there as protectors, but there

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are many out there. You can go to any pet

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store and get some booties for your pets. Not a

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bad idea, But I really think that if it gets

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really cold, and I'm talking temperatures well below freezing, I

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am a fan of allowing these dogs to spend much

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of their time of the extreme cold temperatures indoors, either

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in a mudroom either you know, having a doggy door

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that can give them access. I mean that could be outside.

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you're playing ball, they're going for a brisk walk, they're

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taking a jog with you. That's fine even we do

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regardless of temperature. Once you get the circulation going and

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you work up that sweat, then you can do just fine.

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When do we have a problem. We have a problem

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when you're sitting around so dogs, and it's a vicious cycle.

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When they start getting really cold, I mean really cold,

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they just can't do as much. They get that almost

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like a lethargy. Now they're sitting around and the effects

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of the cold temperature are even greater. I had a

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dog in recently, and I'm talking southern California, and this

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dog was low. Dog was a Chihuahua, and we think

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it got into something. We're not sure exactly what happened initially,

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but this dog came in in what we call lateral recumbency.

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It could barely sit up, let alone stand, and it's

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core body temperature ninety two degrees. Now, mind you, normal

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normal low normal for a dog is one hundred point

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five degrees. This dog, which is even higher than ours

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at ninety eight point six, and this dog was ninety

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two degrees. That is really called. Many thermometers, especially the

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digital thermometers, stop registering under ninety two degrees. It'll just

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say low l for low So that's a problem. And

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as they said, that's a dog here in southern California.

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Can you imagine what this poor dog's body temperature would

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have been if we're in Minnesota stuck outside for whatever reason.

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So it's very, very important to take those precautions. Make

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sure there's some way to keep the water heated, give

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them access to wind, I mean protection from the wind,

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protection from the cold. Get that dog you do or

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have an outdoor heater if possible, where they can hide

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behind something on an ice warm comfy bed. You can

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also get heated beds. There are so many things that

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you can do at home to protect your pets. For

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the smaller dogs, go ahead and get the sweaters, get

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the booties, and make sure you get them out there

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and exercise quite a bit. And that's one way we

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keep our pets nice and protect it during this crazy

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cold weather that's happening many parts of the country. So

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I still want to hear from you any questions you

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have or any stories you have to share, either stories

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about how your pets fared through Thanksgiving, stories about how

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they fare and what you do during the winter to

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protect your pets from the cold. You can reach me

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here at eight seven seven three eight five eight eight

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eight two. Just send me a quick note to Dr

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Jeff at petlifradio dot com. And remember if we talk

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and we'll be back in just a minute.

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at eight seven seven three eighty five eight eighty too.

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courage the nerves to give us a call and ask

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your own questions. But hopefully it's always good to learn

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from other people's questions as well. John from Phoenix set

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us an email and wanted to know how long does

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it normally take for a bone to heal in a dog?

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And it's a great question because it really varies on

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so many different factors. First of all, young bones in

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dogs cats, just like young people, heal much more quickly,

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and typically I would say you can get some start

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getting really good healing in three weeks and by four

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to five weeks, certainly the healing should be complete in

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growing bones. The problem is, however, and you know a

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joke we talk about cats. Cats heal pretty quickly. They're

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actually pretty amazing that the joke is that as long

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as you have both ends of the bone in the

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same room, a cat will heal. Obviously it's not true,

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but the point is cats really do a good job healing,

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and I think there's a reason for it, and we're

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going to talk about that in that one of the

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biggest factors differentiating the way animals heal versus the way

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we heal. The process is the same, but the difference

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is that if you have a bone, and let's assume

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for a second we're talking about a bone where the

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alignment is good, and it's a bone that can be

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splinted or put set in a case, let's talk about

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it for a second. Bones that don't need surgical repair

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via a what we call pin or surgical plates, bone plates,

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or something called a k e or which is called

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the kershon or emer apparatus. Those are much more complicated. Fractures.

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or a humorous where which is the upper parts where

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just casting may not be effective, and I'll explain why

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in just a few minutes. But let's talk about a

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bone that should respond by just being splinted or casted. Well,

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the problem is, even though we're in a splint or

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we're in a cast, we still know that we need

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to rest this bone, and that's going to be we're

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going to be in a sling around. Let's say we

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break our radius or an alma, which is the bones

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of our arm. Oftentimes you get the cast on and

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then doctor's going to put you in in a little sling.

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lower part of your leg below a bone, or a

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bone in your foot, you'll get a cast and you'll

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get crutches, or you'll get a cane. You don't get

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the walking little rubber thing on the bottom of your

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cast right away. So we know that even though we're

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in that supported type of state, with that external type

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of fix it of the apparatus, the splint, the cast, whatever,

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we are still taking it easy. Dogs. You can't put

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dogs on crutches. You don't have dogs in a walking cast.

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You don't have dogs with a cane. So what happens

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is despite our best efforts to keep the dog quiet,

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and sometimes we tell an owner, get an airline carrier,

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put this dog in a crate, get up a doggy playpen.

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he's in his cast, he's in a splint. We're good

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and let's just see what happens. Because what's gonna happen

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is it's not gonna heal nearly as quickly as it

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probably could. So case in point John from Phoenix, is

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that we add a dog come in a very active well.

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I said, that's an oxy word. I've never seen an

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unactive and non active Australian Shepherd. Now this AUSSI is

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all over the place, running, jumping. Do you think this

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dog cares that he's got a broken toe? He can

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care less. He's already broken two splints. I mean he

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is literally motion unmanageable. He's running around all over the place.

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certainly not letting us know. So we had him come

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back in today after the second splint being broken. Took

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an X ray and the alignment is beautiful. I mean,

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the bones are in the perfect position to heal, but

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still not healing. And this dog, we are trying everything,

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and I said to him, I said, we have to

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lock this dog up, because impractical to try to fix

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us with any kind of implants anyway, And the dog

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is happy as can be, and he's running around walking.

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He could care less. Yet he is too active, and

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therefore the healing phase, it's already been six weeks and

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he's going to need at least another two. And yet

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if he were in a cast and on crutches, if

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he were in a splint and on crutches, or a

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cane or confined, which is very tough to do with

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these dogs as they are the energy plus, he would

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have healed already. And so what happened? Why if people

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ask how come? You know, they come in and they

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don't have a lot of money and they have a

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fractured femur that's the long bone, the upper bone of

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the leg that goes from the hip down to the knee,

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and people say, well, how come we can't cast a

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doc There's a certain rule of thumb that when it

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comes to fracture mechanics and dynamics, how fractures need to

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be immobilized. And in order for a broken bone to

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heal properly through a cast or a splint, the joint

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above the fracture and the joint below the fracture need

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to be immobilized. Well, good luck trying to use some

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sort of device, casting device, or other and immobilizing the hip.

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And since that can't be done when you have aphemeral fracture,

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fracture of the femur, ninety nine percent of the time,

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the only successful treatment's going to come from some sort

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of surgical intervention. That could be via some pins we

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call i am or intra dullary pins that can come

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from a plate, a bone plate, or plates that can

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come from some sort of wiring that can come from

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the external apparatus I mentioned earlier, called a k e apparatus.

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But since the hip joint really can't be immobili the

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knee can, but not the hip, it's gonna require some

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sort of external or internal fixation. Now, tibias can fibulus,

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but fibularly often if you don't have that's a little

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skinny bone in the bottom lower part of the leg

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between the kne and the ankle. And if you have

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an intact tibia that enough will give enough support that

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you probably don't have to do a lot to repair

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a fibil It's gonna it's gonna heal. Same thing with

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the radius and alna. All our fractures do okay. If

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the radius is intact, they do better. Need obviously some

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sort of of support, but you may not have to

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actually use any type of fixative or surgical intervention. Just

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you know, really good immobilization could do the trick. And

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same with humorous. Humorous, because you can't really immobilize a

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shit older in a dog or a cat, it's going

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to need some surgical intervention. So John, the answer is,

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it's not an easy answer. Young dogs and cats, I'd

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say three to four weeks, assuming the ability to restrain

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confine the animal is effective. For adult dogs and cats,

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I would say give you a minimum of six weeks,

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but depending on the activity level of that pet, you

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might need to do more than six weeks. So keep

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that in mind, and many other good cases that I've had.

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I well that you know, sadly that this must be

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a virus going around. We don't know what it is,

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but we've had a couple of animals coming in in

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just a very what we call edr state out of

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the blue. The owners of this poor little chiuahua went

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to work in the morning the dog was one hundred

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percent perfect. It was outside, They don't have malicious neighbors,

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There was nothing around the backyard the dog would have

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gotten a hold of. I mean really, there was no way.

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We actually sent this dog to an emergency specialty clinic.

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They two from monitoring could not figure out what could

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have possibly happened to this dog. We're thinking maybe a

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severe anaphylaxis, meaning an allergic reaction to something. Whether there

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could have been a be it could have been a spider,

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it could have been bitten by something else. It could

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have ingested some sort of weird chemicals, some sort of plant,

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but nothing they know of. And as I said, the

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dog's not a yapper, doesn't have mean neighbors that could

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have thrown something over the yard. And there are some

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weird things going on. So you got to keep a

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really close watch over your pets, and you know, always

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talk to gardeners. I'm always nervous seeing cases of snail poison,

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which is metaldehyde, rat poison, which is usually die fastenone

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or some sort of bro Fasten one, and the anti

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coagulant that literally causes these animals to bleed out, and

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a lot of times gardeners are not as aware of

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what they can or can't put down on the ground,

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or sometimes they don't even know how many pets do

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you have outdoor pets, because typically what happens is when

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they come around, you have the animals inside the house,

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or they've asked you to put the animals inside the house,

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and they don't sometimes realize that these animals can run free.

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So it's very important to talk to your gardeners making

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sure they understand that before they put anything down outside

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in your yard, on your grass, in your bushes, in

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your shrubs. Be it fertilizer, be it a weed killer,

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be it siale bait, be it rat poison, be it

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anything to let you know either it's going down or

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better yet, that they should use something else, something other.

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I don't know if any you've seen, but if you

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open up a bag of metaldehyde, which is snail bait,

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it actually looks they're little pellets, and they look like

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pelleted dog food, and they actually have a decent taste

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to them, and yet it's highly highly toxic. I've seen

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small dogs come in with major, major neurologic problems, vomiting, diarrhea, shivering, shaking, seizuring,

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all because of metalde high toxicity, which is the active

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ingredient of snail bait. And this is a time of year,

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by the way, that a lot of gardeners like to

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put things down. So it's something to keep in mind.

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And another thing that I saw and I think something

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you should be aware of that I had two cases

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this week dogs coming in with ticks. And we don't

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have a huge tip population here in southern California, so

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I'm seeing them. I know that in the Northeast, especially

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where ticks are much more prevalent, and the southeast. Ticks

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are very prevalent in the Southwest as well, so you

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have to be aware that ticks are out there. Make sure.

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Just because it's not quote unquote flea season anymore, it

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doesn't mean it's not ticks season. I recommend you keep

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your dogs on some sort of flee and tich prevention

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parasite protection all year round as well. So anyway, no

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courageous callers, So shame on you. You're getting not only

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great segment and hopefully you'll learn a lot to protect

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your pets during the upcoming holiday season. See you next week.

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