1
00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:13,080
Speaker 1: Wrestling too for a mature audience, like, Oh, it's just

2
00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,400
done on your daytation account.

3
00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't want to fucking download my game

4
00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,000
on the fucking PlayStation account. I want the thing that

5
00:00:21,039 --> 00:00:25,719
I paid money for. Oh no, no, I'm just saying,

6
00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,760
how of course you know I got chat on for years.

7
00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,479
I just fucking I sold my PlayStation. I just stopped

8
00:00:32,759 --> 00:00:34,600
playing it. So, I mean, I was just sitting there

9
00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,560
collecting dust. But people used to shoot on me. When

10
00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,799
I go buy the actual physical game, They're like the

11
00:00:40,039 --> 00:00:43,880
dugoad to count and I'm like, no, I don't want

12
00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,119
to do that. I want to own the actual fucking thing.

13
00:00:46,759 --> 00:00:49,479
And of course, now that they've decided that they're actually

14
00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,399
going to get rid of everything, all I'm seeing is

15
00:00:51,439 --> 00:00:54,880
people being like this is crazy, this is ridiculous. I'm like, yeah,

16
00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,479
I fucking I was on that fucking hill years ago.

17
00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,399
You knew that that's the shit they were gonna do.

18
00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,760
The million times you've gotten fucked over downloading music, Like,

19
00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,120
of course they're gonna do the same shit with video games.

20
00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,560
Speaker 3: Oh, they were doing this shit with video games back

21
00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,959
during Microsoft Windows. For games, Joe, It's not a new thing.

22
00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,519
They've been doing this since I want to say, since

23
00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,680
game Spy for those of you old motherfuckers that remember

24
00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:24,280
what game spy is. They've been doing this for a while. Actually,

25
00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,599
even with Steam right, like, there's a lot of people

26
00:01:26,599 --> 00:01:30,480
that use goog, which is essentially what I kind of

27
00:01:30,519 --> 00:01:32,719
do now too, is where they have the hard copy

28
00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,120
of the game, even though it's digital, but you can

29
00:01:35,159 --> 00:01:37,840
always go back to it. You can always download it

30
00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,959
yourself and put it on your own hard drive, put

31
00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,200
it on your own discs. And that's even what I

32
00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,640
do with Steam too, is as soon as I'm done

33
00:01:44,719 --> 00:01:48,040
downloading the whole thing, I fucking back it up on

34
00:01:48,079 --> 00:01:50,200
a hard drive. So even if they delete my game

35
00:01:50,239 --> 00:01:52,719
for whatever reason, I always have a copy to go

36
00:01:52,799 --> 00:01:53,079
back to.

37
00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,959
Speaker 2: You know, well, that seems like it's a good idea

38
00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,040
at this point, because that is that is the way

39
00:01:59,079 --> 00:02:00,599
of the fucking But that's.

40
00:02:00,439 --> 00:02:04,359
Speaker 3: Not even the park. That's fucking infuriating, really, have you?

41
00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,840
So they still sell games at Best Buy, but when

42
00:02:10,879 --> 00:02:14,840
you open them up, they're empty. They come with stickers

43
00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,639
and like, fucking.

44
00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck that, oh my god.

45
00:02:22,599 --> 00:02:26,039
Speaker 3: But it's still a CD case. It's still a DVD case.

46
00:02:26,319 --> 00:02:26,639
You know what?

47
00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,800
Speaker 2: I mean so so quite literally, the whole reason why

48
00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,680
that exists, I'm going to assume is to give his gifts.

49
00:02:35,319 --> 00:02:39,000
So like when Mema and Pipa want to give the

50
00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,240
kid a fucking video game on his birthday, they can

51
00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,159
open it up and then be like, well, goods, well

52
00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,199
you're good. Don't code in there for you, Like that's

53
00:02:47,199 --> 00:02:52,199
got to be the whole reasoning, right, Sure, that's the glass.

54
00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,639
Speaker 3: I'm sure. I'm sure they're going to tell us, like

55
00:02:54,719 --> 00:02:57,800
Nicky and Breather, you know what it is. Gaming companies

56
00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,199
are just worried about the environment. They're trying to save

57
00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,879
the worlds from extra plastics, extra microplastics in our penis,

58
00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,719
And yeah, yeah, I.

59
00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,000
Speaker 2: Would love the idea if that was the big plan.

60
00:03:12,199 --> 00:03:14,919
Like they're like, listen, we've rolled back regulations on quite

61
00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,120
literally everything that could protect the environment. And to really

62
00:03:19,199 --> 00:03:21,120
show that we're serious about this, we're going to get

63
00:03:21,199 --> 00:03:23,599
rid of jewel cases for the video games.

64
00:03:23,599 --> 00:03:25,280
Speaker 3: Well no, I was going to say, just to show

65
00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,280
that they're really serious about it, here's about fifty pounds

66
00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,280
of plastic stickers and a plastic three D printed fucking

67
00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,960
thermos and a plastic three D printed picture of the

68
00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,199
game that you're about to play. Yeah, no, it's thank

69
00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,199
god you guys got rid of those discs. Oh the

70
00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,400
world is breathing a sigh of relief.

71
00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, the environment matters when it saves fucking companies money.

72
00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:56,039
That's about it. Look, we're saving we're saving money. It's like, no, no, no.

73
00:03:56,199 --> 00:03:58,639
Speaker 3: Physical music has already gone. Actually, the only thing that's

74
00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,159
really coming back, which is fucking weird, and I think

75
00:04:02,199 --> 00:04:04,479
it's just it's again, it's a hipster thing, right because

76
00:04:04,479 --> 00:04:07,840
we've seen the records now, the albums back for a while.

77
00:04:07,919 --> 00:04:11,199
And to be fair, the wild thing about the albums

78
00:04:11,919 --> 00:04:14,199
is that a lot of them are just reprints of

79
00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,800
the original albums. So that seems like a giant waste

80
00:04:17,879 --> 00:04:21,399
of you know, resources. But kudos to the ones that

81
00:04:21,439 --> 00:04:25,800
are making the actual albums now with like crazy wacky

82
00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,480
new prints, like because they found new ways to to

83
00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,680
make the actual vinyl so now they're little pieces of

84
00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,360
r so they're cutouts and stuff, and that's cool. That's fine.

85
00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,360
I'm okay with that. But what's making a comeback that's

86
00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:43,120
really wild now is I'm getting cassette tape offers everywhere.

87
00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,600
Casette tape sucked the first time around. Who the fir

88
00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,720
album is looking for a round two of this shit.

89
00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,680
Speaker 2: But that's one of those things where, yes, in the

90
00:04:55,759 --> 00:04:59,120
past it was, I mean it was a steal. This

91
00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,079
sounds like, you know, back in my day, you could

92
00:05:01,079 --> 00:05:04,600
buy a fucking India nickel, you buy yourself a sandwich

93
00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,639
or something. But back when fucking you could go buy

94
00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,639
a cassette single for a dollar if you like the

95
00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,079
song that you heard on the radio. That was cool

96
00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,480
when I was in elementary school. But I can't imagine

97
00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,360
somebody wanting, look, I got a cassette of this album

98
00:05:22,399 --> 00:05:24,519
that just fucking came out. It's like, it's gonna sound

99
00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,800
like Cheeks. That's gonna sound terrible, man like it was.

100
00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, the technology hasn't improved. It's not like, no, there's

101
00:05:32,079 --> 00:05:36,720
some kind of groundbreaking new Sony technology that the Walkman

102
00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,839
is going to come back and sound a million times better.

103
00:05:38,879 --> 00:05:41,639
I mean, I guess there's better headphones around and shit.

104
00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,319
But now the reality is is cassette tapes were awful.

105
00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,920
Eight tracks were awful only as far as the vinyl

106
00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,639
stuff goes. I don't know if you want to compare

107
00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,519
the new stuff to the old stuff, but it doesn't

108
00:05:53,519 --> 00:05:56,000
even sound the same. You go back and you listen

109
00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,839
to Dark Side of the Moon on that classic fucking

110
00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,160
black Crack Lee vinyl that they had out there, and

111
00:06:02,199 --> 00:06:04,920
you listen to the newer stuff. Now it's just it's

112
00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,680
night and day as far as the way it registers anyways.

113
00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,720
Speaker 2: But go on, Well, the whole point of cassettes was

114
00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,480
at the time, if I remember correctly, once again, I

115
00:06:13,519 --> 00:06:16,560
was a little kid, but you have to remember it

116
00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,920
was they were compact compared to once it like eight

117
00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,360
tracks and shit, you know what I mean. So they

118
00:06:23,399 --> 00:06:23,920
were they.

119
00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,199
Speaker 3: Were Was there any track portable player? I don't even know,

120
00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,319
I'm not even cars. Yeah, yeah, they used to put

121
00:06:29,319 --> 00:06:31,759
it in cars, right, but it was there ever one

122
00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:32,759
like on your person?

123
00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,360
Speaker 2: Oh god, I don't think so. But that was I mean,

124
00:06:36,399 --> 00:06:38,720
cassettes you got to think about, like, Okay, if you

125
00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,759
bring a bunch of eight tracks in your car, they're

126
00:06:40,759 --> 00:06:44,439
gonna get fucking mangled. But I mean cassettes, Like I

127
00:06:44,519 --> 00:06:49,199
remember specifically owning cases for cassettes to have so you

128
00:06:49,199 --> 00:06:52,120
could bring them in the car. Yeah, and like that

129
00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,600
was before CDs, which, like you want to talk about

130
00:06:54,639 --> 00:06:58,079
fucking antiquated shit. I remember fucking kids getting their cars

131
00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,399
broken into for people to steal their CD books, And

132
00:07:01,439 --> 00:07:05,800
I was like, now that thing is worth ten fucking cents.

133
00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,519
But if somebody broke into your car and sole a

134
00:07:08,519 --> 00:07:10,839
CD book, that was like a thousand dollars worth of

135
00:07:10,839 --> 00:07:13,759
fucking music. Now when you think about it, yeah, which

136
00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:18,319
is bananas. But yeah, no, nobody should be nobody should

137
00:07:18,319 --> 00:07:21,959
be running to bringing back cassettes. But maybe that's what

138
00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:22,279
it is.

139
00:07:22,319 --> 00:07:24,240
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. It's kind of wild because I'll

140
00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,680
look at some of the newer music and now it's

141
00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,360
here's the offer of it on CD. All No, it's

142
00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,720
always first digital download, of course, digital delmoe, that's fine, whatever,

143
00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,759
I'm cool with that. CDs, that's fine, you know, CDs whatever,

144
00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,319
And then vinyl. And then usually the only reason I

145
00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,240
kind of fox with the vinyl is even if you

146
00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,199
don't play it, ninety nine percent of the time, it's

147
00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,160
a piece of art because the sleeve has its own

148
00:07:49,319 --> 00:07:52,040
artwork on there. And you get one of those real

149
00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,360
fancy pants fucking vinyls and somebody has it where it

150
00:07:55,399 --> 00:07:57,279
opens up like a booklet and now you've got like

151
00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,000
a fold out poster inside that the.

152
00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,800
Speaker 2: That's kicking and there's only fifty press and it's this color. Yeah.

153
00:08:04,879 --> 00:08:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now there's cassettes now. Even back in the day,

154
00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,879
I'm sure you remember Causetts had to fold out shit too,

155
00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,800
but even at the most it looks like a roll

156
00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,079
of toilet paper.

157
00:08:15,199 --> 00:08:19,399
Speaker 2: Like that good shit. Yeah, they were terrible. I mean

158
00:08:19,439 --> 00:08:25,360
I I remember them being so fucking flimsy and shittily made. Yeah,

159
00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,120
once they figured out the technology on how to like

160
00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,360
make it so you just couldn't hit record and play

161
00:08:31,399 --> 00:08:34,519
at the same time. I used to fucking screw up

162
00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,399
my sister's tapes as a kid because I'd want to

163
00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:38,679
listen to it and I'd be like, oh, I'm a

164
00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,039
press play and then you hit record with it too,

165
00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,639
and you're like, oh god, I just fucked up our

166
00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,039
best of Disney.

167
00:08:46,519 --> 00:08:49,480
Speaker 3: We had that advanced technology back in the day, Joe,

168
00:08:49,519 --> 00:08:51,960
that would protect people from that. It was called popping

169
00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:52,879
the tab.

170
00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,919
Speaker 2: Yes yeah. Or if you wanted to just tape over

171
00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,159
someone's shitty tape of something that they didn't like, it

172
00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,519
was called scotch taping.

173
00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,279
Speaker 3: Oh, we use a little snot paper, and we use

174
00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,399
a little in the holes.

175
00:09:06,519 --> 00:09:09,559
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, even well, I'll tell you we were real

176
00:09:09,639 --> 00:09:13,559
fancy then with that, with that little scotch tape.

177
00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,080
Speaker 3: We didn't have scotch tape relatively available, but we did

178
00:09:16,159 --> 00:09:17,600
have shit paper shit tickets.

179
00:09:17,639 --> 00:09:20,279
Speaker 2: So yeah, they like then when they were done, took

180
00:09:20,279 --> 00:09:22,919
them right out recycling, put them right in your butt

181
00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:24,159
pretty much.

182
00:09:25,519 --> 00:09:27,879
Speaker 3: But you know, speaking of putting it in the button technology.

183
00:09:28,639 --> 00:09:32,200
So I saw you were analyzing that Mason Rooks match.

184
00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:40,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh boy, fantastic, isn't he. I'm I'm

185
00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:45,919
fascinated by him in the same exact way that like

186
00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,519
the four hundredth guy that just does high spots on

187
00:09:49,799 --> 00:09:53,600
aw where I'm like, okay, this is I feel like

188
00:09:53,639 --> 00:09:57,200
this has been done six hundred fucking times. But at

189
00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,799
least with some of the flippy guys, there's ones that

190
00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,200
have more a little bit more personality than the other. Right,

191
00:10:03,799 --> 00:10:07,840
like Leo Rush currently doing his gimmick, but he's still

192
00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,600
doing his high spots and shit like that, but he's

193
00:10:10,759 --> 00:10:15,320
got something there. Right, I'm sitting down and I'm watching

194
00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,480
the fucking the fact get here, and I'm going this

195
00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:23,320
is purely three hundred people in a room that are

196
00:10:23,399 --> 00:10:26,440
all doing their Disney adult thing like we've been talking

197
00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,960
about where it's just like, hey, you learned a little

198
00:10:29,039 --> 00:10:32,320
jingle about the guy, and that's what you're gonna do,

199
00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,759
because otherwise I'm going I don't see what is special

200
00:10:35,799 --> 00:10:37,279
about this at all.

201
00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,919
Speaker 3: He is the answer to polite society. That's what he is.

202
00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,200
He is. Nobody's going to say anything mean about Mason

203
00:10:45,279 --> 00:10:47,679
Rook and if you do, you're just you're a hater.

204
00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:49,600
You're a hater.

205
00:10:51,039 --> 00:10:54,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I'm without any sort of issue with

206
00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,240
wrestlers who are out of shape. I mean to me, like,

207
00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,440
at least as far as if it's a part of

208
00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,120
your gimmick in the presentation and you can find a

209
00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,120
way to incorporate that into your character. Fucking cool, you

210
00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,639
know what I mean. Like it's a it is truly

211
00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,919
not up to me what somebody has decided to be

212
00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,879
put on television and Joe anymore obviously, duh. But I

213
00:11:20,039 --> 00:11:24,799
just it just like crosses my eyes with confusion where

214
00:11:24,799 --> 00:11:27,600
this dude comes out and it's like I'm a tank

215
00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,840
and there's metal music and I'm heavy and he's in

216
00:11:31,879 --> 00:11:35,399
like a women's fucking baby blue bathing suit.

217
00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,720
Speaker 3: With pretty hot I thought, I was like, man, what

218
00:11:39,879 --> 00:11:45,720
a he's going out for a night on the town. Yeah,

219
00:11:45,759 --> 00:11:47,799
that's the But I mean, I want to go back

220
00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,840
to what you were saying about him as a wrestler

221
00:11:50,919 --> 00:11:53,799
and being out of shape. And I think most people

222
00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,879
agree that there's in shape, out of shape guy, and

223
00:11:56,919 --> 00:11:58,960
then there's just out of shape, out of shape guy.

224
00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,399
And Mason Rooks me is out of shape, out of

225
00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,080
shape guy. And the reason I'll say this is because

226
00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,639
majority of his moves were not power moves. They were

227
00:12:08,639 --> 00:12:13,320
all leverage moves. Sidewalk slam, you know, the clothes line

228
00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,440
off the rope, like everything he really did was leverage.

229
00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,679
And I'm like, they're talking about, oh, hell, body slam

230
00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,240
your dad. Can he pick my dad up?

231
00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:29,039
Speaker 2: Like my dad better be jumping for him. He's jumping,

232
00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:29,799
he's posting.

233
00:12:30,039 --> 00:12:32,080
Speaker 3: And I laughed. I laughed when I got to the

234
00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,000
point of the match where you were fucking howling at

235
00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,120
the fact that this guy, at the very end of

236
00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,960
the match struggled to pick this kid up Jackson in

237
00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,960
a fucking gorilla press, and he did. He literally branched

238
00:12:44,039 --> 00:12:46,720
him on his shoulders like he was a mink stole.

239
00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,080
Like it's just you can't even pick this kid up.

240
00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,480
And the absurdity of the match in general, of him

241
00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,480
basically fighting this fucking one hundred pounds t wink right,

242
00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:02,720
no offense. But he is a small guy guy, he

243
00:13:02,919 --> 00:13:05,960
really is, and to put him up against Mason and

244
00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,159
they're evenly matched was a silly decision in itself. I

245
00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,639
don't know if the thought process behind this other than

246
00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,519
it's what polite society wants. Polite society wants to give

247
00:13:17,519 --> 00:13:19,840
everybody a turn at the table, and I guess Mason

248
00:13:19,919 --> 00:13:23,000
Rook is standing all stand up for all the chubby

249
00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,080
tubbies out there.

250
00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,240
Speaker 2: So well, do you know what? I think? It's a

251
00:13:27,279 --> 00:13:31,759
lot has to do with the gear. The work is fine.

252
00:13:32,919 --> 00:13:36,159
Speaker 3: Come on, dude, if you're coming out there as a

253
00:13:36,159 --> 00:13:39,120
tank and this big fucking daddy, right, and you can't

254
00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,720
lift up a guy who weighs half.

255
00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,960
Speaker 2: Of your body size, well he's trying to post on

256
00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,039
your shoulder, because yeah, he's like.

257
00:13:46,039 --> 00:13:48,639
Speaker 3: Come on, that's really bad. Like I'm not I'm not

258
00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,480
a guy who's ever been in the ring or nothing,

259
00:13:50,519 --> 00:13:53,440
but I mean, if you can't pick up a guy

260
00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,360
who weighs one hundred something pounds, maybe like what the

261
00:13:57,399 --> 00:14:00,519
fuck are you even doing in the ring, Like You're

262
00:14:00,519 --> 00:14:03,559
not even athletic at that point, Like that's somebody that

263
00:14:03,639 --> 00:14:06,080
goes to the gym on weekends. Can fucking do that?

264
00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:06,759
Speaker 1: You know?

265
00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,519
Speaker 2: It's well, the biggest problem with the whole thing is

266
00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,440
the presentation. And like when I say the work doesn't

267
00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,159
look that bad, like I'm like, okay, the punches, and

268
00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,759
it's like he's very much so going through the motions.

269
00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,240
And one of the biggest criticisms that I would have

270
00:14:24,399 --> 00:14:27,200
just watching him and seeing what he's doing, it was

271
00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,080
like you said, I'm a thank I'm supposed to. He

272
00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,759
doesn't make a peep, He doesn't make a in the ring.

273
00:14:35,279 --> 00:14:38,960
He's quiet as a fucking church mouse. But then I realized,

274
00:14:39,039 --> 00:14:41,679
I'm like, you know, why isn't he when he's doing

275
00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,240
these big app I'm doing an avalanche, why is he

276
00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,360
not making a noise? And I realized he's blown up?

277
00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,279
Speaker 3: Is that it? Or is it because they decided to

278
00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,279
have Booker t answer his phone live in the middle

279
00:14:53,279 --> 00:14:57,080
of the fucking match for some weird reason, so everybody

280
00:14:57,159 --> 00:15:00,279
could hear because it happened to be random Rush are

281
00:15:00,519 --> 00:15:04,559
fucking three sixty four saying I'm going to be back books.

282
00:15:06,399 --> 00:15:11,159
Speaker 2: That was so incredibly confusing. Just at that point of

283
00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,519
the match, it's like you hear a really obvious fake

284
00:15:15,759 --> 00:15:16,519
phone noise.

285
00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,480
Speaker 3: It's not even a real phone, Like I don't know

286
00:15:18,519 --> 00:15:21,360
what it's even. It's like a phone tone. It's sounded

287
00:15:21,399 --> 00:15:26,240
like somebody's emergency, like pag your winner something. It did

288
00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:27,240
not sound like a phone.

289
00:15:27,279 --> 00:15:30,039
Speaker 2: They couldn't get It was like a fire alarm for

290
00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,039
a second. I'm like the people because the people in

291
00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,279
the building got quiet now, like they don't know what

292
00:15:34,279 --> 00:15:35,000
the fucking is.

293
00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:42,200
Speaker 3: Everybody's gonna get monoxidil monoxid yes, but still.

294
00:15:44,639 --> 00:15:50,720
Speaker 2: Who was who was there that night? Budget? But that honest,

295
00:15:51,039 --> 00:15:55,279
honest to fucking god, the presentation with the kid is rotten.

296
00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,120
And like I said in the in the ring, the

297
00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,840
actual physical like the punchers in the Kicks and whatever.

298
00:16:00,879 --> 00:16:03,559
I'm like, okay, it doesn't look as bad as even

299
00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,120
like I've given a guy like Trick Williams shit for

300
00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:11,360
jay Us, right, I'm like, all right, that's that's close enough.

301
00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,480
But the matches themselves are the matches I've seen are

302
00:16:15,559 --> 00:16:19,799
fucking dumb. They're poorly put together. The kid, the presentation

303
00:16:19,919 --> 00:16:25,039
of the kid is fucking awful, like shit shave his head,

304
00:16:25,279 --> 00:16:32,840
do something, because like he's just a big fat s See.

305
00:16:32,919 --> 00:16:35,480
Speaker 3: Honestly, that's not the part that bothers me. The part

306
00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,360
that bothers me is that he comes in there as

307
00:16:38,399 --> 00:16:41,200
a big dude suppose to be throwing his fucking weight around,

308
00:16:41,639 --> 00:16:44,120
and he can't pick up a hundred pound guy. He

309
00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,679
can't do it. That's the part that bothers me. That's

310
00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,919
just that's fucking weird. And you're in a wrestling ring

311
00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,600
and you can't pick up a hundred pound guy, the

312
00:16:55,639 --> 00:16:58,600
fuck is wrong with you? Why are these people defending

313
00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,720
him so hard? You should be laughing this guy out

314
00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:02,879
of the goddamn company.

315
00:17:03,879 --> 00:17:07,680
Speaker 2: I think it's a part of it is that because

316
00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,759
the people that they don't like or they feel like

317
00:17:10,799 --> 00:17:15,200
they're they're antiquated. It's old people, old manuals at Cloud,

318
00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,920
they feel the inclination to stand up for him. Just

319
00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,960
I feel like in the same way a half dozen

320
00:17:21,039 --> 00:17:23,759
years ago, when I'd be like this or that about

321
00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,680
MJF and I'm not crazy about this or this kind

322
00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,720
of sucks or this isn't particularly good. The people that

323
00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,680
wanted to defend him because oh no, he's Roddy Piper

324
00:17:33,759 --> 00:17:36,000
or he's just like the old wrestlers. He's just like,

325
00:17:36,319 --> 00:17:38,000
you know, fill in the blanket. I'm like, yeah, but

326
00:17:38,039 --> 00:17:41,079
that doesn't change the fact that what is actually happening

327
00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,000
is not great. Like, even if there's elements of it

328
00:17:45,039 --> 00:17:47,240
that you like, that doesn't mean that it's good.

329
00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,480
Speaker 3: What the problem is it ruins other people around him. Right,

330
00:17:50,599 --> 00:17:52,240
So if we want to go down the rabbit hole

331
00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,480
on this, so you take this four hundred pound dude,

332
00:17:54,519 --> 00:17:57,240
I'm just being facetious, hobvious, He's not four hundred but whatever.

333
00:17:57,839 --> 00:18:00,960
You take this four hundred pound two three and you

334
00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,640
tell him, you know, go out there and wrestle. He's like, oh, yeah,

335
00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,960
but I can't lift anything over one hundred and one pounds.

336
00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,359
And I'm like, okay, well, you know, I guess we'll

337
00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,440
work with that. And so now you have other people

338
00:18:11,599 --> 00:18:14,079
that are going to be wrestling against this guy literally

339
00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,559
dumbing themselves down physically and otherwise in order to compensate

340
00:18:18,599 --> 00:18:20,759
for his lack of being able to lift one hundred

341
00:18:20,799 --> 00:18:24,440
and one pounds. So now you've severely limited the move

342
00:18:24,519 --> 00:18:27,480
sets in the ring, or you've put these other opponents,

343
00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,279
these other talents in harm's way by having them do

344
00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,079
stupid shit in order to keep making Mason Rook look

345
00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:38,279
like a big, bad daddy slamming tank. And then on

346
00:18:38,319 --> 00:18:40,759
the flip side of things, now you've trained the fans

347
00:18:40,799 --> 00:18:43,599
that people that can't lift one hundred and one fucking

348
00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,960
pounds are all of a sudden powerhouse Goldberg type fucking monsters,

349
00:18:48,519 --> 00:18:50,319
and we should be afraid of them. We should be

350
00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,000
afraid of guys like Mason Rook. He's terrifying and that's

351
00:18:54,039 --> 00:18:57,480
what sells tickets. And this, this to me, is the

352
00:18:57,519 --> 00:19:01,480
real fucking problem. Yeah, the guy wearing the baby blue

353
00:19:01,559 --> 00:19:04,920
fucking one piece swimsuit from nineteen fifty four, that's hot,

354
00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,880
I got it. But it's the problem is is the

355
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,559
fact that I don't believe a guy that can't pick

356
00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:17,359
up fucking Tyler Bates on his fucking heaviest day. You know,

357
00:19:17,519 --> 00:19:19,440
It's just I don't know, I don't know what you

358
00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:19,960
do with it.

359
00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,440
Speaker 2: It just it looks, it looks so bad. And yes,

360
00:19:23,599 --> 00:19:26,519
like I said to me, the main point, the main

361
00:19:26,599 --> 00:19:32,160
problem is the lack of personality and the presentation overall,

362
00:19:32,319 --> 00:19:34,319
and the people that are like, no, no, per well,

363
00:19:34,759 --> 00:19:37,960
there's no berthing out Like I said, he doesn't make

364
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,400
a fucking single noise in the ring. There's no real

365
00:19:42,559 --> 00:19:45,720
facial express. He'll make like a I'm a grazy guy

366
00:19:45,839 --> 00:19:48,359
face like two or three times in the match, but otherwise,

367
00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:53,200
other than that, it's just like, very very plain. It

368
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,200
gives me. It's it's giving morbidly obese Roderick strong to me,

369
00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,680
that's what it's giving. And like, I'm where is the

370
00:20:01,079 --> 00:20:04,279
look and move look you're doing to move And you're like,

371
00:20:04,599 --> 00:20:08,400
is there a semblance of a personality somewhere in there?

372
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because there's going to be.

373
00:20:11,559 --> 00:20:13,759
Like you said, the dizzy adults, I think it's just

374
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,960
a group of NXT or the New Wave wrestling fans,

375
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:19,799
the ones that are.

376
00:20:20,079 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 2: Which in Orlando, they're literally that, which is even funnier.

377
00:20:23,279 --> 00:20:26,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're just they just think that this guy

378
00:20:26,279 --> 00:20:28,680
is the wave of the future. And you know what,

379
00:20:29,599 --> 00:20:33,880
maybe an AIWWE land, maybe he is Joe. Maybe this

380
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,839
is just another one of those fucking seals, one of

381
00:20:36,839 --> 00:20:40,559
those signs broken across the sky by the Lord above

382
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,119
that this is what wrestling is going to be in

383
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,720
the next fifteen years. Mason Rook will be world heavyweight

384
00:20:46,799 --> 00:20:49,599
champion and he just beat a sixty year old Seth

385
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,480
Rollins for the title.

386
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 2: Don't worry, though, that's going to get it back to

387
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:55,599
the next night.

388
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, of course, of course.

389
00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:58,119
Speaker 2: Yeah.

390
00:20:58,440 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 3: But it was a hard spot battle.

391
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a hard five battle. It went for

392
00:21:03,519 --> 00:21:06,000
twenty seven minutes. For some reason, it's a miracle that

393
00:21:06,039 --> 00:21:07,440
Mason rup didn't have a coronary.

394
00:21:07,559 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 1: Oh.

395
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,599
Speaker 3: I thought you meant twenty seven minutes in the booking,

396
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,119
Uh in the creative room, but yeah, no, for sure,

397
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,279
it's uh, it's not good. And I guess Jim Cornett's

398
00:21:16,319 --> 00:21:17,880
kind of losing his shit about it. And I saw

399
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,319
people online. I saw some back and forth. Uh, some

400
00:21:21,319 --> 00:21:25,519
some rando was saying that, telling Jim that nobody's gonna

401
00:21:25,519 --> 00:21:28,240
remember who Nick Bockwinkle is or no, what do you say,

402
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,359
Nick bock and Winkle, Nobody's gonna remember Nick bocken Winkle.

403
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:33,960
I'm like, well, I don't even know who the fuck

404
00:21:34,079 --> 00:21:37,640
Nick bochen Winkle is, but sure, yeah, no, nobody's gonna

405
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,279
remember Nick bock and Winkle and uh, but they'll remember

406
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,720
Mason Rook. And I'm just like, oh, and of course, Jim,

407
00:21:45,839 --> 00:21:47,160
Jim Cornette went off.

408
00:21:47,079 --> 00:21:52,079
Speaker 2: On that good fuck you motherfucker, which which this This

409
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,359
is the funny thing for me in that situation where

410
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,720
it's you know, well, you know what, the kids don't

411
00:21:57,759 --> 00:22:01,359
remember who like a Nick Bockwinkle is like, and that's

412
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,720
fine because the kids don't remember who fucking Steve Blackman is,

413
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,839
you know what I mean? Like the world moves on

414
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:15,920
and career too, like Ken Shamrock. Like imagine explaining Ken

415
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,720
Shamrock to some of these fucking kids.

416
00:22:18,759 --> 00:22:21,839
Speaker 3: Now, what about an even better idea? What about Tank

417
00:22:21,839 --> 00:22:25,640
abbot Ah, it's another Jesus Christ.

418
00:22:26,279 --> 00:22:29,279
Speaker 2: They think he was a great worker, this Tank Abbott

419
00:22:29,319 --> 00:22:34,720
as hell. I mean, honestly, guy, When you really think

420
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,680
about it, Ken Shamrock, at one point, it's like he

421
00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:41,200
was legitimately pretty fucking good in the ring. He obviously

422
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,319
had the credentials.

423
00:22:42,319 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 3: He was an unbelievable so many storylines. He was Vince

424
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,160
McMahon's personal hitman there for a while.

425
00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 2: Like yeah, no sense, Yeah it all made sense. And

426
00:22:53,839 --> 00:22:55,559
like now you think about it, like if they would

427
00:22:55,559 --> 00:22:57,680
have bring in some usc guy, gee, I wonder how

428
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,839
they'd get him. Uh, they probably bring in that fucking

429
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,559
Irish kid with the riff raff air. They'd be like,

430
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:04,680
that's the henchman.

431
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 3: Benzel's already here, bro.

432
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: Shot. I think it's Sean O'Malley. I think that's which.

433
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,319
I'm sure he would beat the he could beat the

434
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,440
dog shit out of people. But it's still like the

435
00:23:17,519 --> 00:23:21,039
aesthetic of it. Once again, like Mason Rook, who really

436
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,680
hurt someone? I'm like, yes, but if you see this guy,

437
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,079
he's one hundred and seventy pounds dude with face tattoos

438
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,160
that if you put a baggy shirt on him, nobody

439
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,359
would know. They think you work at the fucking gas station.

440
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,279
And that's not saying that he's not dangerous, but like,

441
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,880
we're in a world of aesthetics here. We're living at

442
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,359
a time where we'd love to think that people have

443
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,599
moved past like that looks like X so that means why,

444
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,799
But it's somehow getting maybe worse in a lot of respects.

445
00:23:51,039 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 3: Well, it's kind of like the video game industry. I

446
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,720
mean going back to that, like seriously, that was a

447
00:23:56,559 --> 00:23:58,400
I know, I'm trying to make this full circle a

448
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,640
little bit, but so like the CGI graphics. I saw

449
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:06,279
something on Batista and they were making graphics for Batista

450
00:24:06,319 --> 00:24:10,319
in the new WWE game, and people were upset that

451
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,960
you can't even that a billion dollar company was the quote,

452
00:24:14,039 --> 00:24:18,599
A billion dollar company can't even make realistic looking wrestlers now,

453
00:24:19,079 --> 00:24:22,519
but they look at games from fifteen years ago and

454
00:24:22,599 --> 00:24:25,440
are just amazed at how much better the graphics were

455
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,880
back then. And somebody along the lines came up with

456
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,160
an answer which made fucking perfect sense. When the technology

457
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,160
came out back then, or when wrestling was good back then,

458
00:24:36,759 --> 00:24:39,519
it was fresh and new. It was they were trying

459
00:24:39,559 --> 00:24:43,240
to impress everybody with what they knew, their technological advancement,

460
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:48,799
their achievements. But now many years later, they're just trying

461
00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:52,720
to cut corners. They're just trying to make the most

462
00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:56,200
money with the least amount of effort. So the fact

463
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,519
that you will still buy shitty looking video game in

464
00:25:00,599 --> 00:25:04,079
twenty twenty six, enough to complain about it, but enough

465
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,799
to keep buying them, that's their level. That's where they

466
00:25:07,839 --> 00:25:10,799
know they can stay because they don't need to try

467
00:25:10,839 --> 00:25:13,839
any harder. And same thing with wrestling. They know that

468
00:25:14,079 --> 00:25:18,000
you will continue to watch wrestling with guys like Mason

469
00:25:18,079 --> 00:25:21,920
Rook as the bar of what's good in wrestling, and

470
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,400
as long as you keep showing up. As long as

471
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,799
you keep tweeting him out and buying his stuff and

472
00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:30,000
buying his merch and praising what a great and fucking

473
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,079
wonderful wrestler Mason Rook is. That's where they're going to stop.

474
00:25:34,319 --> 00:25:36,799
That's where they're going to leave it. Why try to

475
00:25:36,839 --> 00:25:40,519
give us Rock versus Austin when when they can give

476
00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:44,119
us Mason Rook versus what Alexander or what was the

477
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,319
names kid? Jackson?

478
00:25:45,759 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Jackson Jackson? Uh yeah? Why would they bother

479
00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:53,559
when they can just you know, even on the main roster. Hey,

480
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,519
why don't we Jackson Drake?

481
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,279
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you? Drew Yes, sorry I forgot his

482
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:58,880
last name?

483
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: It was two who fucking first name? Having? Motherfucker the

484
00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:03,680
fuck out of here.

485
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,039
Speaker 3: He's really really good at what is he a big

486
00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:10,480
stratigo player? That he's a big strateigo player?

487
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: I mean he's he's a child like this.

488
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,279
Speaker 3: Is Mason Rook is a young lad too? What is

489
00:26:16,319 --> 00:26:16,680
he like?

490
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: I know he's twenty nine, he's twenty nine, but he

491
00:26:20,519 --> 00:26:23,440
looks eleven and a half. So and then the other

492
00:26:23,559 --> 00:26:28,000
kid too, who the Jackson Drake kid? He also looks

493
00:26:28,039 --> 00:26:30,880
really young because well he is I think he's like

494
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,319
twenty one or twenty two or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

495
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,799
And this is where it's like it becomes a it

496
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,759
becomes a problem because then you just have these guys

497
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,599
work in each other and none of them look like

498
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:44,880
grown men.

499
00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 3: And that's like, but that's how people wik that's what

500
00:26:47,759 --> 00:26:50,000
they want to know. Hey, they want that. They want

501
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,640
Booker getting phone calls during the show, Like I mean, hey, sure,

502
00:26:55,599 --> 00:26:58,559
let's let's do more of that. Maybe maybe Michael Cole

503
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,920
and Corey Graves can both could call at the same

504
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,319
time from them from their significant other and they can

505
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,720
cross lines. And Michael Cole is sexting up Carmela and

506
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,720
Corey Graves is just on on hold.

507
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: I think I think the guy that they did the

508
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,400
promo for two is that No, that's not Roxy's boyfriend.

509
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,279
That's somebody, And I think that's the guy that's married

510
00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:25,039
to Maxine. Like we were talking about the other day

511
00:27:25,079 --> 00:27:28,279
where they're pretending that that Maxine has a has a

512
00:27:28,319 --> 00:27:32,000
boyfriend on raw and her husband's on n XT. It

513
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:37,160
like the fucker we dooing. But yeah, it's it's absurd,

514
00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:42,119
and I'm not sure where they're gonna go from here.

515
00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:44,920
As far as like the people that they have in

516
00:27:45,079 --> 00:27:49,559
NXT and those that they're bringing up. Uh, what I'm

517
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,680
seeing down there anytime I tune on an XT is

518
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,920
a lot of kids that are years out and I

519
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,319
don't mean like a year years out from being already.

520
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,759
Speaker 3: Well as back to the Shawn Michaels thing that he

521
00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:07,759
said on what was it Unpopular or whatever? Yeah, when

522
00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:10,279
he was basically saying that, look, do you guys want

523
00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:14,359
him ready or do you want him ready right now? Ready,

524
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:20,359
right now, ready, right right, one of those and you

525
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,359
can just feel the the well, all right, I can

526
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,759
I can do that, I guess you know.

527
00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like I can. It's like somebody's cooking food

528
00:28:29,519 --> 00:28:31,599
for you and they're like, oh, I need that right now,

529
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,519
and you're like, well, I can just give you raw

530
00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:37,640
eggs on a plate. And I'm like, what on toasted

531
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,839
toast raw eggs on a plate? Does that sound good

532
00:28:39,839 --> 00:28:44,480
to you? Fucking dangly bacon? Here you go, there's breakfast.

533
00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 3: Mason isn't the only one getting fucking shipped on. Stephanie.

534
00:28:51,119 --> 00:28:53,279
Her boyfriend Miles Bourne's getting shipped on.

535
00:28:54,519 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: But a deaf guy.

536
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, people are going after him saying that he

537
00:28:58,359 --> 00:29:01,559
didn't earn his spot in the company, he didn't pay

538
00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:05,720
his dues, and uh yeah, yeah, he didn't pay his dues.

539
00:29:05,799 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: None of them du down.

540
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,119
Speaker 3: I know, that's right.

541
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: What are they talking about? They just pick came out

542
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,599
of a hat. That's that's nice. He said, definitely out

543
00:29:18,599 --> 00:29:19,880
of a hat because he came.

544
00:29:19,759 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 3: From amateur wrestling, right, Like it's the same thing. We'll

545
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,200
get to Chad Gable, like Tiffan came from the outside. Well,

546
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,200
we'll get to that in a second. But so he's

547
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,079
on the interview and he says, yeah, absolutely. I mean

548
00:29:31,119 --> 00:29:33,400
everybody has a different background than they come from. You know,

549
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,119
I never really when I first got to the w WE,

550
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,279
I didn't know about this side of the things, but

551
00:29:38,319 --> 00:29:40,319
I experienced a little bit of it, started seeing it,

552
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,119
and it was nothing like, you know, all the energy

553
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,440
in the PC is good, everyone's supportive, but there are

554
00:29:46,519 --> 00:29:49,640
some you know, side conversations about like outside of the

555
00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:53,319
NXT of course, like fan bases and you know, oh,

556
00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:56,480
he didn't pay his dues, he didn't come through the indies,

557
00:29:56,799 --> 00:30:01,039
he's just another athlete whatever. And I unders I get it,

558
00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:03,440
you know, as a wrestler when we've had outsiders come

559
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,400
into our world. I felt the same way. We were like, oh,

560
00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:08,200
you're in our world. Now, you know it's going to

561
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,200
be a little tough for you guys. But then again,

562
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,400
I didn't come from just an average sport, and no

563
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,920
knock against any sport I came from. I believe one

564
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,680
of the hardest sports there is. It's amateur wrestling. You're

565
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,920
in a fight every day, and to grind, you're cutting weight,

566
00:30:20,279 --> 00:30:22,880
you can't eat all the time, you're having to dehydrate yourself,

567
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,960
and on top of that, you're having to perform on

568
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,640
elite levels. This isn't like another sport where you can

569
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,640
just feel good, have nutrition, you're hydrated, everything's top tier,

570
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,839
and then you go perform, you feel like shit, and

571
00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:36,799
you're going out there and you're grinding. Someone else's blood

572
00:30:36,839 --> 00:30:40,440
is on top of you, someone else's spit. It's just

573
00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:44,200
it's just it's just a nasty, grinding sport. So when

574
00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:47,039
people say, oh, you know, I didn't pay my dues,

575
00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:49,359
I think, actually, no, I paid more dues. You know

576
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,160
we paid we paid more. Okay, I pulled my body

577
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,880
through so much more than anybody knows about who wasn't

578
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,039
in those sauna rooms. So absolutely when they say I,

579
00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:02,559
I say okay, And I know, right if that's what

580
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,799
you think, you're going to be fooled the moment we

581
00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:07,480
lock up in the ring, you're gonna realize that you

582
00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:09,839
might have to come from the indies. But my background

583
00:31:10,319 --> 00:31:13,039
it transitioned perfectly into what we do now. But that's

584
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:15,799
an interesting thought though too, is that And that's where

585
00:31:15,839 --> 00:31:17,160
I was kind of going with it. Where you were

586
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,559
alluding to, is in twenty twenty six, is there really

587
00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:24,359
even dues left to pay? Like I know that there's

588
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,119
even obviously there's still you know, all the companies that

589
00:31:28,319 --> 00:31:32,759
WWE hasn't picked up yet or aw, but I mean,

590
00:31:32,759 --> 00:31:34,519
for the most part, what is paying your dues in

591
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:35,400
twenty twenty six?

592
00:31:35,519 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: Joe, Well, with all honestly, with all due respect to Milesbourne,

593
00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:46,200
here this sounds like head cannon from the jump, you

594
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,079
know what I mean, like just everyone's judging me. No

595
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,079
they don't, I assure you, they don't really give a fuck.

596
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:57,279
But also like yeas, like what is what I hate

597
00:31:57,359 --> 00:31:58,039
at the point?

598
00:31:58,759 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: How all right? Ship? So it can't just be headcannon

599
00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:10,319
because people must have made it very obvious that they

600
00:32:10,359 --> 00:32:13,279
felt this way to him, because it's not like he

601
00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:22,799
could just walk in and overhear a conversation Joe, there's

602
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:24,680
gotta be like anonymous fails.

603
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: So he didn't hear a mish, but the signs were there.

604
00:32:41,319 --> 00:32:43,559
It wasn't blessed, blessed this young man tire. But this

605
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,440
is this is where it's fucking crazy to me, right,

606
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:52,119
is somebody saying, oh, well, maybe he didn't pay the

607
00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:54,759
does or whatever the fuck it is. It's like he's

608
00:32:54,799 --> 00:33:00,279
an athletic, really in shape, good look and do with

609
00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:04,880
a story. That's ww That's what WWE wants right now,

610
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:08,799
That's what they've wanted for ten plus years, if not

611
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:11,960
more than that. Oh ye athletic, Oh could we put

612
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,319
you on TV in that pretty face? Oh do you

613
00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:16,440
have a good story to go along with it? Fan

614
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:19,319
fucking tastic. We'll start there and we'll go from there,

615
00:33:19,559 --> 00:33:22,640
you know what I mean? Like that's honest to god,

616
00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:26,319
Like that goes back so far at this point, Like

617
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,119
that's kind of what Page was even when she first

618
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,640
came in. Oh young pretty goth girl who's from a

619
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,559
wrestling family and she was a carnival girl and blah

620
00:33:35,559 --> 00:33:38,720
blah blah, blah like that is truly all shit that

621
00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:41,319
will get you pushed up in the queue to get

622
00:33:41,359 --> 00:33:45,880
a fucking job in WWE. Everyone knows that that is

623
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:52,000
not like, well when did this start happening? But truly,

624
00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:55,160
like what is the idea of what payingdus could be

625
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:59,480
now for at this point? Well, like all the aforementioned

626
00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:02,000
things that I just was talking to you about, how

627
00:34:02,039 --> 00:34:05,359
many of those pieces do you have? Because if you

628
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,199
start out with none of those pieces, then your dues

629
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:10,000
are gonna be a hell of a lot more fucking

630
00:34:10,039 --> 00:34:13,079
difficult than someone that does have all of them. And

631
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:18,559
that's not fucking great. And it's like, listen, nothing's a

632
00:34:18,559 --> 00:34:22,840
fucking meritocracy. Anybody that believes that that's really the truth, Like,

633
00:34:23,039 --> 00:34:26,840
you gotta be really smoking some serious dick to be

634
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,880
thinking that everywhere you go in your life, you're just

635
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,039
gonna be like I'm the best, and that means that

636
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,039
if I'm the best at something, I'm definitely gonna get it.

637
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,519
Like fucking hell, where have you how long have you

638
00:34:38,559 --> 00:34:42,480
been alive to believe that bullshit? Like once again, if

639
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:44,920
you walk in there like even his girl, like the

640
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,280
core the cour is a really fucking good worker, but

641
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,760
like she has a great story and she's insanely fucking hot.

642
00:34:53,039 --> 00:34:56,159
Like if she wasn't, if she didn't have two out

643
00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:58,440
of three of those things, her dues would look a

644
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,119
hell of a lot different. Ranby Julia, yuh be sure,

645
00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:06,280
I guess right, Well, I mean I guess also even

646
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,480
with you know, somebody like her, with Julia, when people

647
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,880
are like, well, they paid their dues and they had

648
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,440
to blubblah blah blah blah, and you're like, yeah, they did.

649
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,199
They went and they traveled and they had all of

650
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,639
those things. They were really really fucking good looking, but

651
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,920
they had to work. They had to learn how to

652
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,280
fucking work in that environment, and that helped him out.

653
00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:28,760
Then you start at the bottom. Even you look at

654
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,639
somebody else, indie girl that's on the show, or I

655
00:35:32,639 --> 00:35:35,119
guess in theories on the show, look at Jordan Grace.

656
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,719
Jordan Grace was a five foot tall, chubby girl that

657
00:35:41,199 --> 00:35:44,159
then got gassed the fuck out and then worked in

658
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,920
TNA for like a decade, and then they saw her

659
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,360
in that rumble and they're like, uh, oopsie, poopsie, we

660
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,199
probably should have hired this girl four years ago. And

661
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,559
now she's on the fucking YouTube channel at best most

662
00:35:56,599 --> 00:36:00,280
of the time. So yeah, so like what's dudes, Like,

663
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,559
what is what that looks like now? Is completely different

664
00:36:05,039 --> 00:36:09,679
and it can be weaponized against people when they feel

665
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,039
like it. And I'm sure that like maybe he does

666
00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:16,719
feel that way. Maybe sometimes he does think to himself like, oh,

667
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,599
maybe the indie guys get a little bit show him

668
00:36:19,639 --> 00:36:21,920
how to do that in the ring because you have

669
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,679
more experience or whatever. The fucking blah blah blah blah blah.

670
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,199
But like that also is where I go right back

671
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,039
to the jump and I say, you're a really athletic,

672
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,480
good looking guy who they had a lot of They

673
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,440
look at and go, you got a hell of a story.

674
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,000
So those are your advantages. So what so what the

675
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:44,039
fucking guy worked on the indies and Ohio or traveled

676
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:50,159
around through fucking England for whatever five six years, It's like, okay, well, yeah,

677
00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:52,599
maybe he knows that a little better than you. So

678
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,360
some of the people are going to look and go,

679
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,559
all right, well, maybe we should trust this guy that's

680
00:36:56,599 --> 00:37:00,519
got more practice. But when push comes to shove, whatever

681
00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:03,280
is going to happen down the line unless you see

682
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:08,480
some big changes. Who is the company going to someday

683
00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:11,719
put money behind a guy that looks like Miles Bourne

684
00:37:12,559 --> 00:37:14,159
or a guy that looks like Mason Rook.

685
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 3: Uh, whoever is coming to the table with the smallest

686
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,920
paycheck and the biggest overhead.

687
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:22,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it's.

688
00:37:24,679 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 3: Ship what you look like. If you can, if you

689
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,039
look like Dan Housen and you can go out there

690
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:33,079
and move a million tickets and you only want one

691
00:37:33,159 --> 00:37:38,400
hundred thousand a year, you're their favorite. You're you're on

692
00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:40,280
TV every week, you know.

693
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you make three times the amount of what

694
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,920
your salary is and T shirts, then yeah, but this

695
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,800
is but this is also a too like you're just

696
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,360
mentioning two different types of people that are from the

697
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,039
indie pool.

698
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 3: Well, I guess you know what, that's not fair because

699
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,119
I was answering you from the perspective of the company.

700
00:37:57,159 --> 00:37:59,760
I don't think the company, especially TKL, gives a ship

701
00:38:00,599 --> 00:38:04,679
than results. But as far as the wrestlers go, man,

702
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,840
I don't know. I would I would assume that the

703
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,360
wrestlers probably wouldn't be of fans of a guy like

704
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,199
Mason Rook, you know, I would assume that they would

705
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,960
look at a guy like Mason Rook and go, this

706
00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:19,719
guy isn't gonna get me anywhere. There's no overhead of

707
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,800
having a match with a guy who can't even lift

708
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,679
me up. There's no overhead of a guy who looks

709
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,000
like a fucking human thumb, and there's absolutely no distinctive

710
00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:33,079
qualities about him. Like it doesn't even matter if the

711
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:36,599
other guy's miles born or not. Hell, even wrestling a

712
00:38:36,639 --> 00:38:39,400
deaf guy is a weird thing, weird enough to put

713
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,559
it on your resume that other people will like, Oh shit, yeah,

714
00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:44,840
you wrestled the deaf guy. Oh that's fucking crazy. How

715
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,280
was that? You know what I mean? Like, it's there's

716
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:52,039
even in the attempt of doing something different. It means

717
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:56,119
more on your imprint to social media standing or to

718
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,400
people's memories than it does because you wrestled something dude

719
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,760
that looks like everybody else.

720
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 2: A big fat kid with a fade. That's it, Like

721
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:10,719
that's there's nothing even aesthetically interesting to this kid. There's

722
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:11,559
nothing there but.

723
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,599
Speaker 3: Knock nick knock, knock, bocking, dwinkle tinkle.

724
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: By the way, it's funny to me, somebody was saying earlier,

725
00:39:21,039 --> 00:39:23,199
like the people that defend Mason Rook, a lot of

726
00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:26,840
the times just because that's who they look like, so

727
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,320
they see themselves in him.

728
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 3: That's weird, Like who the heroes to look like them?

729
00:39:32,679 --> 00:39:33,599
What is that ship?

730
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: That's like that's like confidence in anti confidence at the

731
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,280
same time.

732
00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:46,679
Speaker 3: You know, as a child, I was always a big

733
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,920
fan of the Bastion booger.

734
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:52,639
Speaker 2: Like, well, well, you know what's the funny thing is

735
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:57,360
just like all of the big super athlete fucking NFL

736
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,559
guys you see, not maybe not all of them, sure,

737
00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:02,000
some of them are you know, Batista guys or whatever,

738
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,119
but they were always like I love like Jeff Hardy

739
00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:09,719
and you're like the weird goth guy and Trip Pants,

740
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,280
the new metal fucking white guy that's smoking meth. That's you,

741
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:19,039
Guys's dude, Like yeah, we fucking looking rules, you know,

742
00:40:19,559 --> 00:40:23,760
like and and somebody with like you know, probably you'd

743
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,039
probably get a fucking side eye if you were to

744
00:40:26,039 --> 00:40:28,199
say it, it'll be like, well maybe even might love

745
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,440
d low Brown or something like. They'd look at you

746
00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:35,400
be like fucking you like it's it's whoever you like,

747
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,800
it's whoever resonates with you. Whereas the charisma whoever you

748
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,360
look at and go oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's

749
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,119
one of my fucking guys. But like maybe that's it

750
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,079
for some of the people with Rook. But also that

751
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,400
explains to me as well why that whole Jim Cornett

752
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,559
fucking argument started. Because the fucking fat kid from Cobra

753
00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:01,199
Kai was was fucking flapping his gums about it. He's like,

754
00:41:01,639 --> 00:41:04,880
fucking people, can you talk about Jack and chit or whatever?

755
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,519
The fucking It's like, what's his name, Paul, Paul, Paul Housen,

756
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,000
Paul Hauser, Paul Walker House, I.

757
00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:13,639
Speaker 3: Like Paul Housen, Yes, it's.

758
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: Paul House, Paul Walker, Housen, whatever the fuck his name is. Yeah,

759
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,760
It's like, this dude has done pretty good for himself

760
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,599
if you look at the resume and like he's had

761
00:41:26,639 --> 00:41:29,639
a good career. The guy is not a bad actor

762
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:35,159
by any stretch of imagination. And I'm just confused why

763
00:41:35,199 --> 00:41:40,719
he keeps wanting to mush his fucking round robust being

764
00:41:41,199 --> 00:41:44,440
into the wrestling world to do anything other than create

765
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,599
problems for himself. It's at least doing you know what

766
00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:52,119
I mean, Like you have a real career in a

767
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:56,800
field outside of wrestling, for what it's worth. All of

768
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,320
these fucking people and like Tiffany Stratton, who were gonna

769
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,360
get to and her whole ordeal. Tiffany Stranton's just waiting

770
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,639
for her fucking contract to run out so she can

771
00:42:06,679 --> 00:42:10,280
go be on fucking Baywatch twenty twenty seven or whatever.

772
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,639
She doesn't want to be doing this. Most of the

773
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:18,360
people that are getting into wrestling, and I don't even

774
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,599
want to fucking because oh, this could hurt some butts.

775
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,920
But most of them, they get there and they like

776
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,840
wrestling and they're a wrestling fan. But they would stop

777
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,199
doing it tomorrow. If they could be a fucking influencer

778
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,239
and just go like eat a fucking s cargo and

779
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,679
fucking fancy eggs salad or whatever the fuck and make

780
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,840
two million dollars a year, they'd stop tomorrow. So to

781
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,119
go like, oh, why the fucking let me tell you

782
00:42:46,119 --> 00:42:50,639
about wrestling history, dude, Go enjoy your life. You're fucking

783
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,480
you've got all this Hollywood shit and you've got these

784
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,880
connections and you're on Netflix shows and whatever, and like

785
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:02,880
you're arguing with fucking Dave Meltzer. People on the internet,

786
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:04,760
got it the funk out?

787
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,039
Speaker 3: What do you Maybe it makes him happy? Right, Like,

788
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,119
you know, there's a point in time. So there was

789
00:43:10,159 --> 00:43:11,840
a point in time that me and you were way

790
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,320
more prominent on social media back in the yay day.

791
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,000
And then I learned that good for you.

792
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:19,519
Speaker 2: It's just time.

793
00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 3: It's just aggravating. But maybe there are people out there

794
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,440
that genuinely enjoy this stuff. Maybe Paul Walker Housen is

795
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:32,119
a big fan of confrontation and likes the fact that,

796
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,639
you know, he can tell Jim Cornett about nick and

797
00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:38,559
baching wiggle and uh yeah, it's just kind of his

798
00:43:38,679 --> 00:43:41,480
thing and and people like that. Look at Dave Meltzer.

799
00:43:42,039 --> 00:43:48,199
Dave Meltzer, for all of all of his negatives, still

800
00:43:48,639 --> 00:43:53,360
stays online to fight people left and right. He doubles down,

801
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,400
he triples down, he quintuples down, and Dave will sit

802
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,760
there and fight tooth and nail with some of these people.

803
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,079
But fory blocks or whatever. Like, some people are just

804
00:44:03,199 --> 00:44:08,079
born and bred to just fight through social media and

805
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:11,400
they love it. They fucking love it. And other people

806
00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:14,280
not so much. Other people are like, ah, you.

807
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,119
Speaker 2: Should, you should at some point outgrow it and realize

808
00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:19,400
that it's a waste of your fucking time and it's

809
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,559
frustrating for no reason. And if you have anything else,

810
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:27,760
in your life going on, Like just even me thinking

811
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,320
about in the past, like especially like pre COVID and

812
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,519
all the shit that happened for the fucking years have

813
00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:37,440
followed into the abortion we're living in today. I think

814
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:42,360
about like twenty seventeen. Yeah, and I'm out doing shit

815
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,360
and I'm having fun, and it's like I'm fucking arguing

816
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:51,119
with somebody on Twitter. Why why you know what? Shit?

817
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,519
Speaker 3: And I totally forgot that this is See, this is

818
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:55,679
how long we've been off with social media. Thanks for

819
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,400
reminding me. They get paid now, you ca, you get

820
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,320
engagement now. So if you have a blue check mark

821
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:08,440
and you've met all the criteria for elon Musk, then

822
00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:11,599
you get paid based upon your interactions on Twitter. So

823
00:45:11,679 --> 00:45:17,079
maybe maybe old Paul Walker out there is uh, maybe

824
00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:19,960
he's got all those check marks checks no pun intended,

825
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,199
and maybe he's getting paid to find this shit. Maybe

826
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,079
Twitter is paying him a little penny to piss off

827
00:45:26,159 --> 00:45:28,360
Jim Cornette and have Jim Cornett rant on him for

828
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,039
a day or two.

829
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 2: But he also has money, Like that's another thing.

830
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,559
Speaker 3: Oh, I forgot. Billionaires don't like more money, Joe just.

831
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: No, well, I mean not who not Today's billionaires. They

832
00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:46,920
they will want they will fucking bleed people dry. But

833
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,280
I mean, like even just somebody being like is that

834
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,000
their excuse? And like you think that's that guy's excuse

835
00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:55,079
in his head where he's like, yeah, sure, I'm arguing

836
00:45:55,159 --> 00:45:57,199
on Twitter for ten hours a day that I could

837
00:45:57,199 --> 00:46:00,320
spend actually doing something with my real career where I

838
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,559
can make real money. But I'm getting fucking fifteen cents

839
00:46:04,639 --> 00:46:06,239
off of this tweet or whatever. The fuck.

840
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,639
Speaker 3: Oh, it's gotta be more than that. I really don't

841
00:46:08,679 --> 00:46:10,719
know the rates that they pay out, but it's got

842
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,440
to be a lot more than that, because eight there's

843
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,440
a lot of people doing it. Be we're joking about

844
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,480
the AI stuff before too, with the engagement of a

845
00:46:17,519 --> 00:46:22,360
fake AI bought audience. But yeah, look, I'm not saying

846
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,880
that the guy is solely living off of his Twitter

847
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,199
earnings or nothing like that. I'm just saying that there

848
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,519
is a possibility that he is getting some chedder out

849
00:46:30,559 --> 00:46:33,760
of it. So, yes, you're right, should he be wasting

850
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,480
his time? Probably not. But you know what, if you're

851
00:46:36,519 --> 00:46:39,360
getting twenty bucks to piss somebody off, and you know,

852
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,000
maybe stay around till it hits thirty, you know, like.

853
00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 2: Well, there's also something too when I think about it,

854
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:51,840
where just even being in the world that that guy

855
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,679
is coming from the Netflix shows and fucking whatever he

856
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,800
could get, he could get consistent work doing a little

857
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,159
shit probably going forward, because like I said, he's not

858
00:47:02,199 --> 00:47:05,079
a bad actor, right, the guy is a pretty fucking

859
00:47:05,199 --> 00:47:08,719
good actor and anything I've seen him. So you think

860
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,800
to yourself, though, all you're doing when you're putting yourself

861
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,639
out there on something like fucking Twitter, of all things,

862
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:21,199
and eventually you're gonna say something or present yourself in

863
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,480
some sort of way that could be a detriment to

864
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,920
those fucking roles and those spots and that money you

865
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:32,800
could make, and for what, and for what to argue

866
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,679
with somebody about fucking macho man Randy Savage wasn't that good.

867
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,760
It's actually ridiculous because Kyle Fletcher's better than him. Fucking

868
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:47,599
go do something else, do something the fuck else. I

869
00:47:47,639 --> 00:47:50,880
mean truly, and as somebody that'd be like, well, you

870
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,000
don't do a Valker podcast or done a Vukar podcast,

871
00:47:54,039 --> 00:47:56,320
blah blah blah blah blah. Miss if you and I

872
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:01,400
woke up and had millions of dollars, right, would we

873
00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:04,360
Jesus Christ. We don't do it now. We don't argue

874
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,760
with these chuds on Twitter, Blue Sky, any of that bullshit.

875
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:10,480
Would you be doing that?

876
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 3: No? Actually, what I would be doing is I would

877
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,679
be hiring somebody to do it for me and then

878
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,599
cut them in on the the take that we can.

879
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: And then when I realize is that costs too much money,

880
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,920
I got a robot me to do it.

881
00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

882
00:48:25,679 --> 00:48:27,519
Speaker 2: Right from the jump. You wouldn't even hire a person.

883
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 3: Fuck noo, AI, Hey, I don't. So it's a win guys.

884
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,719
I mean if it's Ai arguing with Ai, who does

885
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:41,119
it hurts just the just the environment, just to clean water.

886
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,519
That's just Nicky Bree podcast.

887
00:48:44,679 --> 00:48:48,159
Speaker 2: You know, I just love the idea, Like the opening

888
00:48:48,199 --> 00:48:51,639
scene a fucking Terminator two with them ships fucking flying

889
00:48:51,679 --> 00:48:55,159
through the air and the and the crushing the skulls

890
00:48:55,599 --> 00:48:58,880
right and they're like, we ran out of water because people,

891
00:49:00,199 --> 00:49:03,400
because random robots, we're calling each other gay on Twitter

892
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,760
for twenty years and that's why we're out of water.

893
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,159
Speaker 3: And this has this been a South Park episode?

894
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

895
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, Dirty Cyberdne Systems modeled one oh one.

896
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,800
I'm here to call you gay and a liptod. That's

897
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,920
what I'm here to do. Are you here to Are

898
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,599
you here to help us protect the human race? No,

899
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,000
that's gay and retarded, don't you hear me? That's what

900
00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:32,679
I do. That's all. That is what the robots have

901
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,280
been made for to do just that.

902
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 3: But it's even funnier because who's watching, right, Like at

903
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,880
that point if you're paying your Twitter to insult people

904
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,719
and people are in the audience paying their AI to

905
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:50,800
insult you back, Like, who's is anybody recording this for posterity?

906
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:57,920
Is this being recorded for future generations? And on March

907
00:49:58,039 --> 00:50:01,800
twenty third, two thousand, In twenty six, the year of

908
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:06,480
Our Lord Wrestling, Soup said go fuck your mother to

909
00:50:06,599 --> 00:50:08,199
which on Mars.

910
00:50:10,119 --> 00:50:13,159
Speaker 2: But there's so But that's also another part of this too,

911
00:50:13,199 --> 00:50:17,320
where maybe I'm overblowing this because there's so much shit

912
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,400
that's floated around and everything's fucking fake and blah blah

913
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,760
blah blah blah. That Paul Walker housing there, somebody could

914
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,719
you know, be like, hey man, you're gonna be in

915
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,760
the new Garfield movie as Garfield, but we found out

916
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,960
that you said this, and you'd be like, oh, that's

917
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,559
not real. That's not real. Like you could probably get

918
00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:43,320
away with that now because so much shit is fake too.

919
00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:48,320
It's like you could just look at something nah no, no, no,

920
00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:51,440
that didn't happen. No, I didn't do that, Nope, that

921
00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:53,079
was that was a robot.

922
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 3: It's a roll ball.

923
00:50:55,519 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: That was just the robots that did that. Which is

924
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,719
is that the final is that like the final form

925
00:51:03,039 --> 00:51:07,480
of the cam Girl where you know, it was like, hey,

926
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,280
look at people. People gonna go on the camgirl site

927
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:14,079
and they're gonna watch the fucking girl with caddiers jerk

928
00:51:14,119 --> 00:51:16,800
off and they'll pay her money and they're like, listen,

929
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,719
that's too much. Why don't we have robots fight each

930
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,840
other about politics on Twitter? And then you can read

931
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,880
the robots fighting each other and it costs nothing, but

932
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,360
then there's ad engagement for you to read the robot fighting.

933
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,119
And then occasionally maybe a real human flesh and blood

934
00:51:35,159 --> 00:51:38,039
wrestler will get themselves involved in it too, where the

935
00:51:38,039 --> 00:51:40,800
guy that was the fat guy on Cobra Kai will

936
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,679
get involved as well, and then it's like, let's spice

937
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,440
it up by putting in one of those fucking blood

938
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:48,840
bags into the conversation.

939
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be kind of cool, Like you can set

940
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,199
it up like, uh, what is it that that voicemail

941
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,760
thing that people hired Rick Flair on to do while

942
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,960
he was sober, like cameo, but instea of like cameo,

943
00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:03,960
you can just hire wrestlers to fight people you don't like,

944
00:52:04,679 --> 00:52:06,519
and then the people that you don't like have to

945
00:52:06,599 --> 00:52:10,440
hire wrestlers in order to defend your honor, Like they'd

946
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:10,920
be great.

947
00:52:11,639 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 2: And then at the end they reveal like it's like

948
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,360
a reality show. At the end they reveal if it's

949
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,079
just fucking AI anyways, Oh no, no, no.

950
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 3: You do it for real though. That's what I'm saying

951
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,239
is like, look, so if you want to call somebody

952
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,840
a bitch and they're like fuck you, and you're a bitch, right,

953
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,599
and now you officially have a feud and you both

954
00:52:28,639 --> 00:52:31,639
happen to be wrestling fans, then depending on how much

955
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,519
money you have, you can hire a wrestler from WWE

956
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,679
to have a match against whoever they can afford. So

957
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,599
you might run across somebody that can afford the fucking

958
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:49,360
John Cena versus Mason Rook right o, yes, right, or

959
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:54,400
a brock Lesnar versus Mason Rook and then WWE makes

960
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,519
double the money because they love that. They love when

961
00:52:56,519 --> 00:52:58,840
they can make double and triple the money. They can

962
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,679
put that shit on Raw or SmackDown or a paper

963
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,840
view I'm sorry, ple and then people watch it on

964
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,320
the pl e but you paid for it, so they

965
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,159
get even more money for a match that they would

966
00:53:09,199 --> 00:53:13,360
have booked eventually anyways, you know, it's and obviously the

967
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,360
person that wins is the one that paid more money

968
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,880
for the wrestler that they have come on with, of course, yes, yeah, yeah,

969
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,920
that's that's why he gets honest and fair.

970
00:53:22,159 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe that's it. Maybe that's just where everything's

971
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:33,920
gonna go, just complete blatant horseshit out of everybody. Just

972
00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:39,360
everyone's just a disgusting, fucking dancing peasant. And that's and

973
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,239
that's the best case scenario maybe because then, like I said,

974
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:46,000
it's like then you can make enough money though where

975
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,719
maybe you do like you step up and then you

976
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,239
can hire robots to be your dancing horror peasants.

977
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't think people would want to watch

978
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,840
robots do that as much as they'd want to watch

979
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,920
people that they they paid to bleed, you know, what

980
00:53:59,000 --> 00:53:59,280
I mean.

981
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 2: That's a good point, you know what I mean.

982
00:54:01,519 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 3: Like, if we can get the robots to bleed, Joe,

983
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,639
I'm there with you. If we can, if we can

984
00:54:07,679 --> 00:54:12,320
get the robots to like feel pain and believably feel pain,

985
00:54:12,519 --> 00:54:14,679
I'm right there with you. But until they can feel,

986
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,679
until until the day that we can teach the robots

987
00:54:19,079 --> 00:54:21,639
how to bleed and how to feel pain, it's it's

988
00:54:21,639 --> 00:54:23,480
still gonna be human beings.

989
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 2: The guy just leans back in his chair with his remote.

990
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:31,159
He's like, these these robots don't even have childhood trauma, right,

991
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,880
They're not even trying to fill any holes in their hearts.

992
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're watching you're watching porn. Twelve guys, one AI

993
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,320
and she's just taking twelve dicks in the ass and

994
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:45,559
she's just going uh uh, Like I can't believe this.

995
00:54:46,159 --> 00:54:48,199
Speaker 2: Well, she's not even gonna she's not even gonna feel

996
00:54:48,199 --> 00:54:51,880
bad about this. And then and then convert to his

997
00:54:52,079 --> 00:55:02,360
laund This robots not even gonna o V in a

998
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,039
fucking bathroom in Reno. How am I supposed to feel

999
00:55:06,119 --> 00:55:07,760
anything from this? All?

1000
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:08,039
Speaker 4: Right?

1001
00:55:08,119 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 3: Well, how many times is this robot gonna go to

1002
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,679
anal rehab? None?

1003
00:55:12,119 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 2: Jesus, you just see you just see the robot. It's

1004
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:18,679
just sitting there and it's next to.

1005
00:55:18,679 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 4: Johnny sins and he's like, listen, it's not as much

1006
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,559
fun when they make eye contact.

1007
00:55:29,679 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 2: I mean, the robots trying. But you know, I don't know, like.

1008
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:38,079
Speaker 3: You just you know what, Socke, it's a pink flag

1009
00:55:38,159 --> 00:55:39,679
that falls out. You know, it's just.

1010
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,519
Speaker 2: You're just blowing them like a fucking enemy s game.

1011
00:55:46,639 --> 00:55:52,239
Mm hmm. Johnny, we told you to stap cream pie

1012
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,519
and the robots slip at these problems we got going

1013
00:55:54,559 --> 00:55:59,679
out of here. Just wipe the titties like a fucking

1014
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:12,079
sea dus. That's my expert analysis. You won't get that

1015
00:56:12,119 --> 00:56:16,519
from a robot, will yet, Elon, you might get you

1016
00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:19,320
might get a robot that will call itself Mecha Hitler,

1017
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,840
but you will you won't get this type of commentary. Pal,

1018
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,519
Why you guys gotta pay me Nickel. That's important.

1019
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 3: So we've got to talk a little bit about the

1020
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,800
Sammy's a backlash. Has been getting a little bit of

1021
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,920
the backlash obviously, you know, becoming the new champion stuff.

1022
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,440
People have had a lot to say about it, and

1023
00:56:39,679 --> 00:56:43,880
uh he went on ESPN and he issued a response

1024
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,000
now I don't know, you know what, I'll just read

1025
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,159
it if you don't. If you just don't like me,

1026
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:55,719
that's fine. You are certainly allowed to not like me.

1027
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,239
But I think if you start getting married to an

1028
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:04,039
archetype of what you have been taught to like this

1029
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:08,840
is what you should want and that then that's all

1030
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:15,119
you boy. I mean, without insulting anybody here, I just

1031
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,599
think that's kind of like a lack of I don't know,

1032
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:26,000
free thought, like a lack of intelligence. I mean, what

1033
00:57:26,079 --> 00:57:30,519
I'm saying is, this isn't the product I've always purchased.

1034
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:36,440
I mean, and that's fair, but you are allowed to

1035
00:57:36,599 --> 00:57:42,840
want other products or enjoy other products. It shouldn't be

1036
00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:47,159
that one thing has been sold to you and you

1037
00:57:47,239 --> 00:57:51,920
should come to accept that that is the only way

1038
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:59,119
anything needs to be done to me. Sammy's zame. I

1039
00:57:59,199 --> 00:58:05,239
equate that with almost staying in your hometown your whole

1040
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,639
life and never going to New York City and then

1041
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:16,239
never realizing that there's a whole planet out there, and

1042
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:22,119
there's billions of people out there, and there's billions of

1043
00:58:22,239 --> 00:58:27,719
ways to do things, and there's billions of different cuisines

1044
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:34,559
and cultures and dance moves and whatever. There's a whole

1045
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:39,440
universe out there and you got to like, you know,

1046
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:44,519
and maybe I say this because traveling the world has

1047
00:58:44,599 --> 00:58:49,559
been so important to me and it's shaped my worldview.

1048
00:58:49,639 --> 00:58:55,880
But it's like, man, broaden your horizons little bit, you

1049
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,800
know what I mean? And if I'm just not your

1050
00:59:00,239 --> 00:59:05,159
of te fair play, but the idea that a champion

1051
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:11,559
needs to be this or needs to be that, I'm like, oh, well,

1052
00:59:12,039 --> 00:59:17,599
you're an idiot. Nothing needs to be anything, right, you know,

1053
00:59:18,239 --> 00:59:23,239
if it's good, it's good. I've always kind of subscribed

1054
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:27,320
to that, and I don't know, I think the work

1055
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,360
I've been putting out over the last few years is good.

1056
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 2: I feel bad that he even has to explain those

1057
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,280
to people. I guess this to me just sounds like

1058
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,840
it's like Sammy's ain't is trying to explain the world

1059
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,599
to people that are in like third grade. That's what

1060
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:46,360
it sounds like to me.

1061
00:59:46,719 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 3: He is explaining things wrong. I'm sorry because by his definition,

1062
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:55,559
then we should make Mason Rook the world heavyweight champion tomorrow.

1063
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,480
Because according to Sammy's a, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter,

1064
00:59:59,559 --> 01:00:02,199
it doesn't matter who's in the main events. It doesn't

1065
01:00:02,199 --> 01:00:05,199
matter who's being chosen, because you know, if you don't

1066
01:00:05,239 --> 01:00:08,360
like Mason Rook, that's fine, go on and do something else,

1067
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,760
Like he said, there's other products out there, there's other

1068
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,840
things to do. Oh you don't like Mason Rook as

1069
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,000
a world heavyweight champion, Well, and maybe it's just not

1070
01:00:17,079 --> 01:00:19,719
for you right now, that's all. And I understand that.

1071
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,679
I totally understand him segueing everybody else and saying, hey,

1072
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,679
if you don't like the Sammy's aim, that's fine, turn

1073
01:00:27,719 --> 01:00:33,000
the channel, stop watching, stop watching until I'm done as champion,

1074
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,639
and then you can come back and watch who beat.

1075
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 2: Me or And this is what's funny to me, is

1076
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:45,679
sometimes somebody tries to be so humble that they just

1077
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,679
create a confusing mess, do you know what I mean?

1078
01:00:49,079 --> 01:00:50,840
Like he went through that whole thing, Like I said,

1079
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:54,559
this is who I'm trying to, like explain existing to

1080
01:00:54,599 --> 01:00:56,639
an eight year old, where it's like, hey, you know,

1081
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,440
we can't be so rigid because you might think think, hey,

1082
01:01:00,519 --> 01:01:02,760
there's only one way for me to cut a peanut

1083
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,639
butter and jelly sandwich, but some people might want to

1084
01:01:05,639 --> 01:01:08,239
cut it another way, Like he has to try to

1085
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:12,880
explain it like a child to people, and he's unintentionally

1086
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,800
probably sounding a little bit like, you know, I wish.

1087
01:01:15,639 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 3: You washing myopic, if anything, real small minded, Like wait

1088
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,880
a minute, yes, I think everybody understands that they're allowed

1089
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,079
to like and dislike who they want. And in the

1090
01:01:25,119 --> 01:01:28,000
world of no baby faces and heels that WWE has

1091
01:01:28,039 --> 01:01:31,360
presented us as years. Uh yeah, no, that's fine. People

1092
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,760
can like you and hate you at the exact same time.

1093
01:01:34,159 --> 01:01:38,800
It happens. It happens quite a bit more frequently. But

1094
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,480
I think the idea that you're upset by this to

1095
01:01:42,559 --> 01:01:44,639
the point where you're not leaning into it and you're

1096
01:01:44,639 --> 01:01:47,679
issuing a statement says a lot more about Sammy's am

1097
01:01:47,719 --> 01:01:49,719
than anything else. I'm sorry it does.

1098
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,199
Speaker 2: I feel bad that he has to He's tagging on

1099
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,800
six fucking qualifiers to this. I mean, I think that

1100
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,920
he would probably have been perfectly fine. And this is

1101
01:02:00,039 --> 01:02:03,519
way she were there, like, hey, there's backlash from people

1102
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,159
that you won the title or whatever it be. He

1103
01:02:06,199 --> 01:02:09,000
could just say there's backlash for when whoever wins the

1104
01:02:09,079 --> 01:02:13,920
champion wins the championship. I've been wrestling for twenty years.

1105
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,199
I'm good at what I do, and I won the

1106
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:18,000
fucking title.

1107
01:02:18,159 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 3: Yeah no, but I'm saying, what about even simpler than that.

1108
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:24,920
There's backlash because there's Cody fans that like Cody good Man,

1109
01:02:27,719 --> 01:02:31,360
like Jesus christ Man. It's not he took it off

1110
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,199
of it. Oh yeah, I'm sure there is. You don't

1111
01:02:34,199 --> 01:02:36,519
think there's Cody fans up there.

1112
01:02:38,039 --> 01:02:46,039
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if it's Cody people or AI it's Cody bots.

1113
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,960
You know. Yeah, it's a Cody butt. But I like

1114
01:02:49,119 --> 01:02:53,000
cigars and vodka. I do.

1115
01:02:53,079 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 3: It needs to odd shit programming, air programming, air fucking.

1116
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:02,519
Speaker 2: My wife is very cool. Uh I think that's a

1117
01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:08,719
Cody robot. I could be wrong. Uh hmm, yeah no

1118
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:13,199
like this. To me, the funniest thing remains with Sammy's

1119
01:03:13,239 --> 01:03:18,320
Ain is that the guy is incredibly fucking good.

1120
01:03:19,639 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 3: Of course, I don't think anybody an ass like it.

1121
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:27,199
Speaker 2: Just it makes me laugh because the same people that

1122
01:03:27,239 --> 01:03:30,719
would be like, well, I'd be like, this is a

1123
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:35,599
company that put the belt on Jack swagger and gender mahal,

1124
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:44,480
let's stop. Can we stop? Sammy Zain is whether you

1125
01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:47,119
want to admit it or not, or whether people want

1126
01:03:47,159 --> 01:03:50,400
to realize this or not, he's better than probably the

1127
01:03:50,519 --> 01:03:55,280
last five champions that they've had, I mean truly with

1128
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,880
the accept like and I'm taking both belts, I guess

1129
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,239
into equation or at least, you know what else, let

1130
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:05,679
me restate that he's better than probably at least five

1131
01:04:05,719 --> 01:04:10,519
of the last ten champions Sash because like this idea,

1132
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:15,880
like he's fucking shocked. But that's that's what I'm saying,

1133
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:17,920
is like that it's weird that he's addressing it in

1134
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,199
a serious fashion. That's what doesn't make sense. Sammy is

1135
01:04:21,239 --> 01:04:23,440
smart enough to realize that the people that hate you

1136
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,119
are going to still pay to see you get your

1137
01:04:25,159 --> 01:04:28,400
ass kicked right like you are in the limelight.

1138
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,599
Speaker 3: And I think it was dirty Bird earlier that that

1139
01:04:30,679 --> 01:04:32,159
said it. You know, if it was two years ago,

1140
01:04:32,199 --> 01:04:35,920
people to win fucking ape shit for Sammy having the title.

1141
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,199
And I agree, I think it's a lot more of

1142
01:04:38,239 --> 01:04:42,400
a confusing mess now. But that's not Sammy's fault. That's

1143
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,719
the way that the company has been structured as of late.

1144
01:04:45,199 --> 01:04:47,719
And yeah, I think that a majority of people that

1145
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:51,840
really dislike Sammy probably don't dislike Sammy. They just like

1146
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,679
Cody Moore, that's all.

1147
01:04:54,599 --> 01:04:57,159
Speaker 2: And that's fine. And that's like I think that's like

1148
01:04:57,599 --> 01:05:00,360
his long winded way of getting to that you don't

1149
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,320
like me. But if it.

1150
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 3: Was Gun, let me ask you this. If it was

1151
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,639
Gun through that he took the title from, do you

1152
01:05:06,679 --> 01:05:08,800
think you would have gotten this kind of backlash?

1153
01:05:09,559 --> 01:05:14,119
Speaker 2: Mm? Probably, I mean probably still because not not to

1154
01:05:14,199 --> 01:05:17,559
this level. But there's there's something that makes me laugh.

1155
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:21,960
It's like the fucking dip fucking dipshit Vince Russo he

1156
01:05:22,079 --> 01:05:24,559
was like, this is worst thing when I put your

1157
01:05:24,559 --> 01:05:28,039
belt on our Cat's No, actually it's not.

1158
01:05:29,519 --> 01:05:32,039
Speaker 3: Like, first of all, he's been a wrestler for like

1159
01:05:32,199 --> 01:05:35,719
thirty years. David Arquette got bored one day and wandered

1160
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:39,840
into WCW. Dude, like what right, well, come on, by the.

1161
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,639
Speaker 2: Way, it's like one of those people fucking posting their

1162
01:05:42,639 --> 01:05:45,239
own owns or whatever where it's just like there's just shit,

1163
01:05:45,519 --> 01:05:47,079
like you just shit on yourself.

1164
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:47,599
Speaker 3: Right.

1165
01:05:47,639 --> 01:05:50,719
Speaker 2: But also, and I don't think that this is like

1166
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,599
far fetched either to make this connection. It was much

1167
01:05:54,679 --> 01:05:57,920
much worse when it was David Harquette because the actual

1168
01:05:58,039 --> 01:06:02,760
fucking show was predict hated on drawing money and selling

1169
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,719
tickets and shit, and now it's really not it's about

1170
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,440
selling ads and fucking ESPN contracts and all tho shit.

1171
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,039
So yes, it was stupider. And also it was worse

1172
01:06:13,119 --> 01:06:17,239
because thirty years ago, the people that were winning championships,

1173
01:06:17,719 --> 01:06:20,400
they didn't look like Sammy's Ain and they sure as

1174
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:24,559
fuck didn't look like David Arquette now over the past

1175
01:06:24,639 --> 01:06:26,719
twenty five thirty years. And yes, somebody said, well, you're

1176
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,400
just shitting on Mason Rook and I'm like, yeah, they're

1177
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:33,960
still a huge ass fucking difference between looking like Mason

1178
01:06:34,039 --> 01:06:36,719
Rook and looking like Samy's.

1179
01:06:36,239 --> 01:06:39,039
Speaker 3: Ain selling put a fucking belt on Mason Rook.

1180
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:43,519
Speaker 2: Hi, No, no, of course not, because he looks like

1181
01:06:43,639 --> 01:06:46,239
fried shit and he's not that good of a worker,

1182
01:06:46,599 --> 01:06:50,360
and he has not spent twenty years building a report

1183
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:54,760
a relationship with wrestling fans in the audience. He wasn't

1184
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,519
involved in one of the biggest storylines in wrestling in

1185
01:06:57,559 --> 01:06:59,960
the past decade and was one of the most important

1186
01:07:00,039 --> 01:07:03,079
fucking people on the show for years. Like this is

1187
01:07:03,679 --> 01:07:07,519
this is the fantasy, the cuckoo fucking bullshit that people

1188
01:07:07,559 --> 01:07:09,960
make up like they picked his name out of a hat,

1189
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:14,920
like a gender Mahal, or like a Jackswagger, or like

1190
01:07:15,559 --> 01:07:19,360
fuck it a great Kyllie. Yeah, great Kylie was the Jacks.

1191
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 3: The Jack Swagger stuff was them trying to strike the

1192
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,400
iron while it was hot. Let's be honest. Ginger Mahaal,

1193
01:07:25,639 --> 01:07:28,639
no fucking clue. I'm sure there's because.

1194
01:07:28,239 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 2: They wanted to go to India and then they went

1195
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,119
to India on triple h beat him in India.

1196
01:07:32,239 --> 01:07:36,159
Speaker 3: Because I mean, there are some decisions w W hasn't

1197
01:07:36,159 --> 01:07:38,760
made over there is. It's very head scratch worthy. But

1198
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:41,639
you know, I really think that a majority of the

1199
01:07:41,679 --> 01:07:43,440
Sammy backlash is just Cody shit.

1200
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:44,519
Speaker 2: It really is.

1201
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 3: It should be it should be like you should Cody

1202
01:07:48,079 --> 01:07:53,039
should have ryder die fans that just don't go, oh shucks, Cody,

1203
01:07:53,079 --> 01:07:55,519
you'll get it again soon. They should be like, now,

1204
01:07:55,599 --> 01:07:59,280
fuck this guy, what's what this goddamn afro ginger motherfucker

1205
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,920
from Canada? You know, like that should be the attitude

1206
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,480
of Cody fans. They should be right or die. But

1207
01:08:05,559 --> 01:08:08,599
it's weird when you have to make a public, like

1208
01:08:08,639 --> 01:08:12,440
a public apology for winning the title. I guess that's

1209
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,280
what pissed me off about the Samy thing. Right. It's

1210
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,399
not because we don't like Sammy. I like Sammy I

1211
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:21,800
like Sammy for years. I love him. He wore a mask,

1212
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,000
you know, Like it's just the problem is is now

1213
01:08:25,039 --> 01:08:29,279
he's doing the public apology tour and it's like what for, Like,

1214
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:33,239
you guys are so far past clearcut baby faces and

1215
01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:37,880
clearcut heels that does it even fucking matter anymore?

1216
01:08:38,079 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 2: No? No, the company doesn't even give a ship. Why

1217
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,239
are you pretending? You know what I mean? Like, why

1218
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:47,520
even put yourself through that misery? But also when this,

1219
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,600
this did make me laugh too. I saw some of

1220
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:53,159
these fucking comments where they were like they gave him

1221
01:08:53,159 --> 01:08:57,600
the bell because he's Muslim, and I hope they did.

1222
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:03,239
Speaker 3: No, No, he did, they did. But somebody in WWE

1223
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:07,239
realized that, hey, look, we've never had a Muslim champion before.

1224
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:11,600
Why why not? Look, I'm not trying to be a dick,

1225
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,119
but I mean, if they're trying to reach every single

1226
01:09:14,159 --> 01:09:17,880
person on the planet, and if if w w E

1227
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,039
is all about, well Mason Rook speaks to the kind

1228
01:09:21,079 --> 01:09:25,640
of person I am, then I mean, Muslim isn't exactly

1229
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,640
a tiny group. I wouldn't Sammy, Well.

1230
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,560
Speaker 2: There's management should be fair. There's only two billion Muslim people, So.

1231
01:09:33,159 --> 01:09:37,079
Speaker 3: Does maybe maybe Maurice. I don't know, it's you know what,

1232
01:09:37,159 --> 01:09:40,840
it's been so long that I'm sure he doesn't count anymore.

1233
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,600
He's he's he's out there with Knocking Binkle, Yes.

1234
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,119
Speaker 2: Ye, him and Nick Bockwinkle. Well no like that. That

1235
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:54,279
to me, I fucking laughed at it. You're milks mushroom.

1236
01:09:54,359 --> 01:09:59,800
I'm like, God, there's the first thing I said was good? Okay,

1237
01:10:00,199 --> 01:10:03,000
Like and he's really good.

1238
01:10:03,279 --> 01:10:06,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good representation people. Don't you want that?

1239
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:10,520
Wouldn't you rather have somebody that's Muslim and can fucking

1240
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:14,319
wrestle and can talk as opposed to somebody who was

1241
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:16,920
just shoehorned in so you could sell a couple of

1242
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:17,720
T shirts.

1243
01:10:18,279 --> 01:10:22,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, like gender mal Yeah, I mean seriously, like this

1244
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,680
it goes back to that, like there's no there's no way.

1245
01:10:26,079 --> 01:10:28,840
And by the way, like I say that, but this

1246
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,199
is also going to be the same exact person that

1247
01:10:31,279 --> 01:10:33,920
in six months or a year, they're gonna be like, oh,

1248
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:38,479
bone one course's black. You're gonna be like, really was.

1249
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,239
Speaker 3: The first black champion ever?

1250
01:10:41,079 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 2: Right right? That too? Yeah, and he was massively over

1251
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:50,039
and got huge reactions and yeah, which that's like someone's

1252
01:10:50,039 --> 01:10:54,159
like well, Sammy's not massively overdy. Who's like you said, yeah,

1253
01:10:54,239 --> 01:10:57,840
two fucking years ago. That's on them. That is on them.

1254
01:10:58,239 --> 01:11:01,319
They waited a long fucking time to give this guy

1255
01:11:01,359 --> 01:11:04,920
the belt, and if they found their opening for a

1256
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:08,119
four to six week period, which let's be realist, probably

1257
01:11:08,239 --> 01:11:11,159
what I'm going to bela that in the middle of

1258
01:11:11,159 --> 01:11:14,600
the summer to have him win in Saudi Arabia and

1259
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:19,720
become like the first fucking Muslim champion for WWE, what's

1260
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:24,680
the problem? What's the fucking problem. It's not like, what's

1261
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:29,520
his name, the kid who's in the models now, who's funny.

1262
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,239
He's a funny guy. But he was a Saudi, he

1263
01:11:32,279 --> 01:11:34,960
was from uh Or, he was a Saudi Arabian kid, Mansor.

1264
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,840
It's not like they fucking put the belt randomly on

1265
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:43,000
mans I didn't hear go on Sorry yeah yeah no,

1266
01:11:43,079 --> 01:11:45,279
but like that's that To me, it was like like

1267
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:51,319
we're just randomly going, sure, yeah, that's that's fucking weird.

1268
01:11:51,119 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 3: Man, But that's help. But see, that's more quid pro

1269
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,000
quo of what WWE does. That's what you would expect,

1270
01:11:57,239 --> 01:11:59,359
and there's a reason why people would ship all over that,

1271
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:03,840
because ever everybody knows what that positioning means. Sammy's a

1272
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:07,680
guy who's worked for it, Like it's difficult to argue

1273
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:12,520
that Sammy hasn't worked for his position in WWE, and

1274
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,840
the fact that he needs to apologize for it.

1275
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 2: It's just I don't know.

1276
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,520
Speaker 3: It's it's very he should he shouldn't. I know, you

1277
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:22,920
were walking it back in a different way. You're like, hey,

1278
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,520
look this is the way, and I understand your point

1279
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,279
from it too. It's just it upset me that he

1280
01:12:28,399 --> 01:12:32,279
had to apologize publicly for it, Like, it's just does

1281
01:12:32,319 --> 01:12:34,880
does endeavor? Does t KO need to come up with

1282
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,319
a letter for you to read? Sammy? Is that where

1283
01:12:37,359 --> 01:12:40,039
we're at now? I'm very sorry that i'm your champion.

1284
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:43,039
I'll try not to be champion for two long guys.

1285
01:12:43,199 --> 01:12:46,800
Don't worry. Someone else that you agree with or or

1286
01:12:47,399 --> 01:12:51,199
harmonize with will be champion again soon enough, you know, Like.

1287
01:12:51,279 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 2: Don't worry, we'll do something creative like put it back

1288
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:57,840
on seth Rowlands or Roman Reigns. Real quick. You're getting trying.

1289
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:05,800
I love I love that. Yes, It's like and then

1290
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,199
those would be the same people that would go, oh

1291
01:13:08,359 --> 01:13:13,840
nothing happens, Oh nothing different. I feel like I didn't

1292
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,319
shoot on him enough of that, But fucking Vince Russo

1293
01:13:17,359 --> 01:13:20,560
being like he doesn't look fucking and look good. You

1294
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:23,680
work for the fucking Juggalo Championship Wrestling.

1295
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 3: Now, Oh Russo is just as silly as the rest

1296
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,159
of them. Look, I never said you watched j c

1297
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:34,720
W for its deep, meaningful storylines. I said it's Jerry Springer, Okay,

1298
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:38,640
it's silly. Lightning says, He's like, are they are they

1299
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,119
mad at Sammy's am for winning the WWE title or

1300
01:13:41,199 --> 01:13:44,319
are they mad that Sammy won the title in Saudi Arabia.

1301
01:13:45,239 --> 01:13:49,880
I don't think I've heard anybody shitting on Sammy specifically

1302
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,600
for doing it in Saudi Arabia. There's a lot of

1303
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:58,079
anti Saudi Arabia tweets and posts, which is yeah, but that,

1304
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,880
But whether Sammy was there or not, I think those

1305
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:03,840
posts would still exist.

1306
01:14:04,359 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 2: Samy.

1307
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 3: Samy is not changing the EBB and flow of WWE

1308
01:14:08,039 --> 01:14:12,000
fandom for Saudi Arabia. I just don't know if the

1309
01:14:12,039 --> 01:14:14,479
reason that people are upset, and I see what Lightning

1310
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,800
is saying, are they mad that he did it in

1311
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:18,439
Saudi Arabia instead of Canada.

1312
01:14:20,159 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this too. Would this even

1313
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:28,800
bother you if Prince Turkey Alababa said to fucking Nick Khan,

1314
01:14:29,359 --> 01:14:31,720
I want Sami Zaying to win the belt and they

1315
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,760
chose to do it, Because that would that even upset you?

1316
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 3: No?

1317
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:37,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean either.

1318
01:14:37,119 --> 01:14:41,600
Speaker 3: Again, he's a deserving guy. He's he's well, no, first,

1319
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:45,920
I should say he's the first of something. That's what

1320
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,119
I should say. And I know that that sounds but

1321
01:14:48,199 --> 01:14:51,920
that's very corporate. That's a very corporate answer. He's the

1322
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:55,439
first of something that can be exploited to make money.

1323
01:14:55,960 --> 01:15:00,159
He's a representative of a splinter group of people that

1324
01:15:00,279 --> 01:15:02,479
happened to cover two thirds of the planet.

1325
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 2: It's just that just so happens tends to.

1326
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,520
Speaker 3: Cover two thirds of the planet. He represents the splintered group.

1327
01:15:11,119 --> 01:15:15,000
And yeah, maybe maybe some kind of representation, especially now

1328
01:15:15,039 --> 01:15:18,079
that you know we're having shows all over the world regularly,

1329
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,520
maybe it's a good idea to put somebody like that.

1330
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:22,520
Oh and he happens to be a good wrestler. Oh

1331
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,199
and he can talk. Oh oh that's nice too.

1332
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,520
Speaker 2: Well, remember the three things that I mentioned earlier about

1333
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,159
what we'll scoot you up in the line as far

1334
01:15:30,159 --> 01:15:35,000
as pan jus looking great having a story right like.

1335
01:15:37,319 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 3: Sammy is. You know what, Sammy's big weakness is his luck.

1336
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:44,359
But right has a story, yes he has.

1337
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,520
Speaker 2: He has a great story and he can fucking work well.

1338
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:51,239
Speaker 3: The story works when he's the underdog because he looks

1339
01:15:51,279 --> 01:15:54,600
like an emaciated underdog like that works for him. He

1340
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,920
looks like if Sam Roberts stepped in the ring. It's

1341
01:15:56,960 --> 01:16:01,399
just big head, small body like that's that's sam He's

1342
01:16:01,399 --> 01:16:03,640
in and it works, it works for him. It's just

1343
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,319
I don't know as far as look goes. Yeah, no,

1344
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,800
Sammy would be right there with old uh old Mason

1345
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:13,600
Castle there Mason Rook.

1346
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:19,520
Speaker 2: Well, dude, ten years ago now more it feels like,

1347
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,159
which is even crazy when you think about it, the

1348
01:16:22,239 --> 01:16:26,079
same conversations were had about Brian Danielson or Daniel Bryant

1349
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:29,920
right most small, he's a dub dumb beard and blah blah.

1350
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 3: Is weird as Sammy's though.

1351
01:16:33,399 --> 01:16:36,039
Speaker 2: No, no, he wasn't like, he wasn't like skinny and long,

1352
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:41,079
which to me is still kind of fucking funny because

1353
01:16:41,319 --> 01:16:43,359
the same people once again, that would be like, well,

1354
01:16:43,399 --> 01:16:46,800
Mason Rook looks like shit, but he's actually tough. It's like, Okay,

1355
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,520
well you're using like the UFC guye logic, right right,

1356
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:53,000
Well that's what sam he's like. You could say the

1357
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,720
same thing about him for whatever it's.

1358
01:16:55,560 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 3: Worth, stretch ability there. Yeah, yeah, well no, That's what

1359
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,119
I'm saying is it's it's too you're stretching it too

1360
01:17:03,159 --> 01:17:06,319
far with Sammy in a lot of ways. But that's

1361
01:17:06,359 --> 01:17:08,800
not why I would say that he deserves to be champion.

1362
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,079
He deserves to be champion. On those other merits you

1363
01:17:11,119 --> 01:17:13,359
brought up the fact that he can talk, the fact

1364
01:17:13,399 --> 01:17:15,279
that he's got a great story, the fact that he

1365
01:17:15,399 --> 01:17:18,079
can wrestle, he knows how to work in the ring,

1366
01:17:18,239 --> 01:17:22,880
Like those are all so fucking over one hundred percent, Joe,

1367
01:17:23,359 --> 01:17:25,840
that the fact that he looks like a human foot,

1368
01:17:26,319 --> 01:17:29,279
he looks like a fucking a fired seven to eleven employee,

1369
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,640
doesn't doesn't hurt him at all, do you know what

1370
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:34,439
I mean? Like, so, when you're trying to make the

1371
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,560
UFC point, I know you're not saying that. You're saying

1372
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,840
that there's other people that are making that point against Sammy.

1373
01:17:39,239 --> 01:17:42,399
I don't think that fucking matters. I'd say there's nobody

1374
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:46,199
on his level and anything else, now what you know

1375
01:17:46,239 --> 01:17:48,640
what I mean? Like, do you so so your girl

1376
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:51,159
doesn't have tits? She's got like a negative A cup,

1377
01:17:51,239 --> 01:17:54,960
negative B cup. But you know everything else. She's the

1378
01:17:55,039 --> 01:17:58,279
life of the party, your family loves her. She likes

1379
01:17:58,319 --> 01:18:00,159
all the same things you do. She can beat your

1380
01:18:00,199 --> 01:18:03,039
ass and call of duty, Like the fuck, dude, what

1381
01:18:03,079 --> 01:18:05,800
else do you need? Oh, she's at all. She likes

1382
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,800
sex like it's perfect. Like, at what point do you

1383
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:12,000
just turn around and go you're just being a curmudgeon,

1384
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:14,159
You're being a stingy little pitch.

1385
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 2: Ninety eight percent is good enough, right, it's good enough?

1386
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:25,239
Like I think that's okay. It's like still with Sammy,

1387
01:18:25,399 --> 01:18:30,039
Like it just makes me fucking laugh because this none

1388
01:18:30,039 --> 01:18:32,840
of this is new to us at this point. And

1389
01:18:33,359 --> 01:18:38,520
he has for sure earn this fucking spot. And for

1390
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,319
anybody that would say, well, he was good in wrestling,

1391
01:18:41,359 --> 01:18:43,479
you say, it's not a meritocracy, and you know you

1392
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,399
got to earn and to earn and the blah blah

1393
01:18:45,399 --> 01:18:47,279
blah blah blah. I'm like, but he's earned it in

1394
01:18:47,319 --> 01:18:50,680
all the different ways that you have to make a

1395
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,279
decision to whether he should get the spot or not.

1396
01:18:55,159 --> 01:18:57,840
You know what I mean, Like, it's like if fifteen

1397
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:02,079
fucking people apply for a job and they all have

1398
01:19:02,239 --> 01:19:06,239
the same degree and the same level of experience, At

1399
01:19:06,239 --> 01:19:08,640
some point you got to start looking deeper and start

1400
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:12,319
talking about intangibles and start looking at all those small

1401
01:19:12,399 --> 01:19:16,479
little fragments in those little parts that make them more

1402
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:18,800
right for the position or more right for the job.

1403
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:23,039
Or we talking about something like the WWE Championship in

1404
01:19:23,079 --> 01:19:26,680
the middle of the fucking summer. This is temp work.

1405
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,920
You're picking a nice temp, that's what you're doing. He's

1406
01:19:31,239 --> 01:19:34,159
he's not holding the belt for four years. He's not

1407
01:19:34,199 --> 01:19:35,640
going on Good Morning America.

1408
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,039
Speaker 3: I don't even know if he's gonna have it by

1409
01:19:37,079 --> 01:19:37,720
Royal Rumble.

1410
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,399
Speaker 2: He might Royal Rumble. You mean by Summer Slam. You

1411
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:42,760
might not even have it by SummerSlam.

1412
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I think I think they'll keep it just

1413
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:49,119
because of the Sparks debate. I think he's keeping it

1414
01:19:49,159 --> 01:19:52,600
past Summer Slam, even if even if they just want

1415
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,199
to maximize the amount of people that hate Sammy's aim,

1416
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,560
Do you know what I mean? Like, it's just going

1417
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:00,600
to roll with it because there's two bolls. There's just

1418
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:04,279
too much money on the table to get his ass.

1419
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,079
If even if you lean into the fact of all

1420
01:20:07,079 --> 01:20:10,359
the let's just say, seventy percent of people right now

1421
01:20:10,399 --> 01:20:13,640
that are WWE fans hate Sammy's A, just hate them,

1422
01:20:14,079 --> 01:20:16,880
don't even know why, they just hate him. There's too

1423
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:20,039
much money to blow that off in three more weeks.

1424
01:20:20,359 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think it's happened so far, maybe

1425
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,840
because once again, don't watch mac now, don't know, but

1426
01:20:28,319 --> 01:20:33,880
how good would that eventual not face off of? But

1427
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:40,399
whatever interaction with Sammy and Roman? Me I mean to me,

1428
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:42,960
that just seems like for all to talk about this

1429
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,800
one and that one. It's like even just the idea

1430
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,079
of it being like sessin fucking a Roman six hundred

1431
01:20:49,079 --> 01:20:51,880
and fiftieth fucking match, geez, how.

1432
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 3: Do you crush me, Joe? That would actually crush me.

1433
01:20:55,159 --> 01:20:59,600
So Roman reigns versus Sammy's A, and belt versus Belt,

1434
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,960
and Roman beats Sammy again and takes both belts. You

1435
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:07,199
give WWE what they want by getting Roman both the titles.

1436
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,439
You remove the title off of Sammy's ain, giving that

1437
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:14,039
type of fan what they want. Ah, and then you

1438
01:21:14,039 --> 01:21:17,399
you just pretty much cripple Sammy's ain from hair on out,

1439
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,920
like to lose to the bloodline twice like that.

1440
01:21:22,079 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 2: Uh, it's the idea of having him lose to him,

1441
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:29,600
which is more than likely what would happen obviously, Uh,

1442
01:21:30,079 --> 01:21:34,720
but also just the the interaction of him going to

1443
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:37,039
face once again, no heals, no faces, None of it

1444
01:21:37,079 --> 01:21:40,800
fucking makes sense anymore. But just the idea of even

1445
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:45,239
Roman Reigns, who as a character is so fucking dull

1446
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:49,039
outside of the people that he's had all these relationships

1447
01:21:49,039 --> 01:21:52,880
with who are more interesting than him II Sammy. Like

1448
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:58,000
him having a face to face with Sammy in any capacity,

1449
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:03,439
and Roman choosing to be fucking happy for him.

1450
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 3: Let me let me read this off would be huge.

1451
01:22:06,159 --> 01:22:09,159
So this is exactly what Vince Russo said, and this

1452
01:22:09,239 --> 01:22:11,279
is the reason that I'm interjecting this. Before we were

1453
01:22:11,319 --> 01:22:13,119
ready to go, he said, you know, I can't keep

1454
01:22:13,119 --> 01:22:16,319
a straight face if I read one more tweet online,

1455
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,720
especially from somebody in the business. Oh, thirteen years in

1456
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:25,039
the business. Nobody deserved it more. What bro When I

1457
01:22:25,119 --> 01:22:28,399
came on this show and tell you the marks are

1458
01:22:28,399 --> 01:22:31,960
in the ring, Look how the wrestlers react. Look at

1459
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:34,640
what they say, Oh, this guy's been in the industry

1460
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,600
for thirteen years. He deserves it. I don't know where

1461
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,079
he's getting his number from. Thirteen thirteen, my ass, I

1462
01:22:40,119 --> 01:22:43,000
was watching this guy's in the double OTTs. He was

1463
01:22:43,079 --> 01:22:45,359
around in like two thousand and two, two thousand and

1464
01:22:45,399 --> 01:22:48,720
three in Canada, and shit, Bro Samy's a and didn't

1465
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,600
win anything because he'd been around thirteen years. You know

1466
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,760
how many guys have been in the business thirteen years,

1467
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:57,000
seventeen years, twenty years, twenty five years, mister perfect and

1468
01:22:57,079 --> 01:23:00,119
Scott Hall died without ever winning a WWE world title. Well,

1469
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,640
I swear to god, Bro, when wrestlers sound like Marx,

1470
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:07,840
it's fricking embarrassing to me. Embarrassing to me. Sammy earned

1471
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:10,640
what what did he earn? He worked harder than all

1472
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:13,840
the other wrestlers you see out there working. Really, this

1473
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:18,039
to me is an absolute joke. It's not about business anymore, coach,

1474
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,840
because here comes what the business is about. Getting as

1475
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,880
many eyeballs on your product or on your partners that

1476
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,479
are paying you. That's what the business is all about,

1477
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,439
which I agree with him on that. He's right. That's

1478
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:32,199
what the bottom line for the company is now and

1479
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:35,600
kind of what it's always been, But at at least

1480
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,720
to me, you're going to tell me that when Triple

1481
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,880
H makes a decision like that and every other ask

1482
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:42,199
clown in the room, you're going to sit there and

1483
01:23:42,199 --> 01:23:44,920
tell me that they've convinced themselves that this is the

1484
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,239
best for business and this is going to bring more

1485
01:23:47,319 --> 01:23:50,079
viewers to the show. Is it that? Or are we

1486
01:23:50,199 --> 01:23:52,960
going to give Sammy a big golden star at his

1487
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:55,039
forehead because of how hard he's been working for the

1488
01:23:55,159 --> 01:23:58,119
last thirteen years. It's a joke, bro, Remember when Little

1489
01:23:58,199 --> 01:24:01,960
League turned into every day getting everybody getting a participation

1490
01:24:02,039 --> 01:24:05,680
of participation trophy. That's what this is. That's exactly what

1491
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:06,800
this is. It's a joke.

1492
01:24:07,319 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 2: And look, and.

1493
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:13,600
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I gotta go back. He's a representative of Muslims.

1494
01:24:14,159 --> 01:24:17,479
That is the biggest fucking If you're looking at this,

1495
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:23,359
Vince from a financial standpoint, how can you ignore that arguably,

1496
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:28,279
arguably the last Muslim champion was Iron Chic, you know

1497
01:24:28,279 --> 01:24:35,720
what I mean, years ago? Right? So yeah, maybe maybe

1498
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:39,600
on the principles that you disagree that Sammy doesn't deserve it.

1499
01:24:40,199 --> 01:24:42,279
Maybe you don't think he's a good promo, Maybe you

1500
01:24:42,319 --> 01:24:44,760
think he wrestles like dog shit in the ring whatever

1501
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,399
it may be, sure, but if you're standing on the

1502
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:51,000
principle that all this is is business, all this is

1503
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,039
is about getting more people to pay attention. How could

1504
01:24:54,119 --> 01:24:56,359
two thirds of the planet not want to pay attention?

1505
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 2: Right, how about the fact that you uh oh, the

1506
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:05,039
money bro or whatever the fuck WWE, if they don't

1507
01:25:05,039 --> 01:25:08,399
already have it, they could put out championships with the

1508
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:14,039
fucking with for Sammy with the font in Farsi or

1509
01:25:14,079 --> 01:25:18,439
in Arabic and sell that to people and like just

1510
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:20,640
the idea of it being like, well, I'll be cool.

1511
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,680
It's all about the bucks, blah blah blah. He knows,

1512
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:26,920
he knows as well as anybody. Like I said earlier,

1513
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:31,000
it's about the fucking the goddamn TV show. At this point,

1514
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:35,079
if Meltzer was right about anything in the past fifteen

1515
01:25:35,119 --> 01:25:39,119
fucking years, which he then translated that into just rooting

1516
01:25:39,119 --> 01:25:42,319
for the same dog shit wrestling, it's that it's not

1517
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:47,079
It's not measured by the same metrics anymore. They could

1518
01:25:47,119 --> 01:25:49,960
make a fucking ham Sandwich to champion and once again

1519
01:25:50,079 --> 01:25:53,359
the w w WE Disney adults would show up. It's

1520
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:57,560
not the same, and is it disappointing to you and

1521
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,600
I and probably to most people that have been watching

1522
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,079
it for a long time that the titles are kind

1523
01:26:02,079 --> 01:26:06,920
of just like, eah, yeah, it's not great. It's not great,

1524
01:26:07,399 --> 01:26:10,560
but at some point, like the milk is spilled. I

1525
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,560
can't keep how many years are we going to cry

1526
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:16,640
about the milk being spilled? It's it's done, it's been changed.

1527
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:20,479
Cody is the closest thing that WWE has had to

1528
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:24,159
a champion and quite some time where there was like

1529
01:26:24,159 --> 01:26:26,640
an actual feel of it where it's like he won

1530
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,279
the belt and it meant something to him, and it

1531
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:32,479
meant something to his family, and it was wrapped up

1532
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,840
in his legacy and this, that and the other thing.

1533
01:26:35,119 --> 01:26:37,439
No one can convince me that the Roman reign sees

1534
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:39,039
this is anything other than a fucking joke.

1535
01:26:39,159 --> 01:26:41,359
Speaker 3: You have already forgot about poor old Gunther.

1536
01:26:43,119 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 2: Well but gun but even though it goes back even

1537
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:50,319
with Gunter, Yeah, but was Gunther's whole thing? Like I

1538
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:54,000
was from a poor family in Austria and I had

1539
01:26:54,039 --> 01:26:56,399
to fight truth and now to Bubble, no, he's just

1540
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,600
a little.

1541
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:01,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there was a little bit of it. There

1542
01:27:01,079 --> 01:27:03,479
was a little bit of I've worked hard to be here. Guy.

1543
01:27:04,319 --> 01:27:07,039
There absolutely was. I mean, yeah, he wasn't throwing it

1544
01:27:07,079 --> 01:27:09,000
in her face every week. That wasn't his main bread

1545
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:09,399
and butter.

1546
01:27:10,319 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, there there was. If I recall, there

1547
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:13,079
was a.

1548
01:27:13,039 --> 01:27:16,560
Speaker 3: Little you know, I'm no chump. I deserve this shit,

1549
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:18,319
this is mine, you know.

1550
01:27:19,119 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 2: Well it's a heel.

1551
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 3: I mean he's doing right, but there's always a little

1552
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:24,199
what is it the kernel of truth?

1553
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:29,359
Speaker 2: You know? Right? Well, no, nobody, well, nobody's being yeah,

1554
01:27:30,159 --> 01:27:34,079
honest and objective with themselves. Nobody's looking at Guntre and

1555
01:27:34,119 --> 01:27:37,479
being like this guy fucking he just he was all

1556
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,079
kicking ice cream for him and he was so fucking

1557
01:27:40,159 --> 01:27:42,840
spoiled and everything was easy for him, Like nobody, what

1558
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:43,039
do you.

1559
01:27:43,039 --> 01:27:44,039
Speaker 3: Think he is a rain?

1560
01:27:44,359 --> 01:27:49,359
Speaker 2: Like yeah, right, And by the way, I didn't pick

1561
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:51,880
cake and ice cream because he wasn't ninety pounds overweight

1562
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:54,319
at one point, and I just just cake and ice

1563
01:27:54,359 --> 01:27:55,920
cream is a nice way of saying thing. It's more

1564
01:27:56,039 --> 01:27:59,960
fucking sweet for the guy, you know. And so yeah, yeah,

1565
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,920
he worked hard, and they all they work hard. They

1566
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:07,560
all work hard, bro, they do they all work hard?

1567
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:11,640
Vince You sure about that? I mean, really, like when

1568
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,159
we get into it. It's like there's a different level.

1569
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:17,239
There's different levels to this ship, and people know it.

1570
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:21,159
And that's also why you got to feed the story

1571
01:28:21,199 --> 01:28:23,199
of Roman reigns to people. And this is why you

1572
01:28:23,319 --> 01:28:27,079
also see the fucking people and the bits, Oh he's

1573
01:28:27,119 --> 01:28:30,079
he's fucking well, there's so tough. There's so tough the

1574
01:28:30,159 --> 01:28:32,720
Roman rains. So he's just always he does everything right

1575
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,680
and he's so fucking this that, and you know, because

1576
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:40,760
people know deep down he was gifted this job. They

1577
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:46,960
know that it was pure fucking nepotism back before Seampunk had,

1578
01:28:47,199 --> 01:28:51,000
you know, had his middle aged nice guy turn. There's

1579
01:28:51,039 --> 01:28:53,600
a reason why he did that guy damn interview on

1580
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:56,199
Cole Cabana and basically made it clear as could be

1581
01:28:56,319 --> 01:28:59,600
the fans that he was a nappo baby chosen by

1582
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:05,000
the comp but that wasn't particularly fucking good, and everybody

1583
01:29:05,039 --> 01:29:08,479
agreed on that until the audience got boiled down to

1584
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,920
a nice roue of the current crowd of people that

1585
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,680
will once again go and clap for a fucking ham sandwich.

1586
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:17,600
If you drape the belt over it, that's what's left.

1587
01:29:18,239 --> 01:29:22,920
So to go, Well, ye have the belt, Sammy Zanes,

1588
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:29,680
Let's not play this fucking game, the selective fucking it's

1589
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:32,920
serious when it's serious, and it's bullshit when it's bullshit game.

1590
01:29:33,319 --> 01:29:37,880
The show's a fucking joke. It's bad, The writing is bad,

1591
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:42,840
the wrestling is me mix, you know, sometimes good, sometimes

1592
01:29:43,039 --> 01:29:48,680
not the best whatever. But when you approach it from well,

1593
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,159
now here's the business side of it, Well, the business

1594
01:29:51,199 --> 01:29:53,000
side of it is, like you said, there's two billion

1595
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:55,680
people who are Islamic on this fucking planet. Sammy's ain

1596
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:59,680
has a story, he has a fucking actual relationship with

1597
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,720
the audience. There's way more for them to go with

1598
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:06,479
him there than ninety eight percent of the other fucking

1599
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:09,119
people on the roster. And if you'd like to tell

1600
01:30:09,159 --> 01:30:11,840
me that that's not true, then I'd like you to

1601
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:15,199
think of more than five other guys that you would

1602
01:30:15,199 --> 01:30:17,560
give the title that haven't had it in that company

1603
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:21,119
right now and say their names with a fucking straight face,

1604
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:25,479
because I assure you it would get to what la

1605
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:35,079
knight uh line? That's about it? Yeah? I mean.

1606
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure?

1607
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 2: Well who else? Who else? Seriously, Like I'm not being

1608
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:42,560
a dick, I'm just saying, like, who else could you

1609
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:46,119
think of that has not won? The championship that if

1610
01:30:46,119 --> 01:30:48,760
they want it in the next six months, it'd be like,

1611
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:52,359
that's fucking what a great story, and there's so much click.

1612
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:55,680
Speaker 3: And it would fall right into the WWE wheelhouse of

1613
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:59,119
how they like to do things. Jimmy really hasn't gotten

1614
01:30:59,119 --> 01:30:59,880
a turn, has he.

1615
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:05,279
Speaker 2: Now? That would be something people should piss him one

1616
01:31:05,319 --> 01:31:06,399
about if Jimmy got it.

1617
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:11,079
Speaker 3: Yes, but it's more bloodline shit. But you could actually

1618
01:31:11,119 --> 01:31:15,039
write a story that would be interesting with Jimmy where

1619
01:31:15,079 --> 01:31:18,079
he's just sick of all of Roman's bullshit.

1620
01:31:18,239 --> 01:31:19,560
Speaker 2: Because he went it off his brother.

1621
01:31:20,079 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just he just seals his stupid.

1622
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 2: Shitty brother wins. He's a stupid brother.

1623
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:27,920
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. It's like, you could do that,

1624
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:31,479
which would be an interesting bloodline storyline, but they'd never

1625
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,840
do anything like that. Jimmy is just happy eating whatever

1626
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:38,960
bird crumbs, whatever bread crumbs are just throwing his way. Look,

1627
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:40,920
he gets to be on TV every once in a while.

1628
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:43,399
That's nice, jim Good for you, buddy.

1629
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:47,399
Speaker 2: He's making he's making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.

1630
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:49,159
She doesn't have to take his shirt off.

1631
01:31:50,079 --> 01:31:52,359
Speaker 3: He's got a hot He's got a hot wife and

1632
01:31:52,359 --> 01:31:52,800
a kid.

1633
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:56,560
Speaker 2: He's fine, He's yeah, we're not feeling bad for these people.

1634
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:59,319
But like I said, Dad's to me one of the

1635
01:31:59,319 --> 01:32:01,800
funniest things. Just like, okay, well then we hit a

1636
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:06,319
wall when someone goes woo this instead, okay.

1637
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:11,119
Speaker 3: Name him Breaker? Oh sorry, do you want.

1638
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 2: They put the belt around his waist and dislocate his

1639
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:25,520
fucking hip. Fucking fragile bron Breaker had to immediately relinquish

1640
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:28,119
the title. He draped it over his shoulder and gave himself.

1641
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 3: At joking, but I love the idea of Our Truth

1642
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:35,640
having the title. It's just you know what they would do.

1643
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:38,840
They'd fire him with the title and they realized he

1644
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:40,119
still had the fucking title.

1645
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 2: Listen, listen. This is not a slight from either of us.

1646
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:47,159
I'm sure at Our Truth in any capacity. But boy

1647
01:32:47,239 --> 01:32:50,399
that that ship has sailed and the company has made

1648
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:52,399
it clear on how they feel about him. In fact,

1649
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:55,800
they put it on a fucking Netflix show. So as

1650
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:58,800
nice as it would have been a decade ago even

1651
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:01,800
for him to have gotten readd seriously and be given

1652
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:02,399
a real run.

1653
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:05,279
Speaker 3: Unkind, I think it was unkind.

1654
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:12,039
Speaker 2: What was it called triple H? Autistically stemming and in

1655
01:33:12,119 --> 01:33:17,159
the U in the form of a television show that

1656
01:33:18,159 --> 01:33:18,720
other What.

1657
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:20,760
Speaker 3: Other champions could I possibly think of?

1658
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:22,680
Speaker 2: Yah?

1659
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:28,279
Speaker 3: Actually, five years, I do have one. Penta could before

1660
01:33:28,359 --> 01:33:30,720
five years. Penta absolutely could. But that wasn't the direction

1661
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:32,560
I was going to go. I was gonna say, as

1662
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:35,520
far as the young crop, if Bronson Reid comes back

1663
01:33:37,199 --> 01:33:40,600
looking like a looking like a Thanksgiving you know, dinner.

1664
01:33:41,239 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 2: Like, he'd still need more time to build up like

1665
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,760
a real story depending on who he went after.

1666
01:33:48,159 --> 01:33:50,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could hot shot a guy like Bronson Reid

1667
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:51,960
and then sell that come.

1668
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:56,039
Speaker 2: On, connect He needs the connection. He needs to build

1669
01:33:56,039 --> 01:33:58,520
a better connection with the with the audiences. And he's

1670
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:03,279
not He could be an icy guy for sure, like

1671
01:34:03,399 --> 01:34:05,199
I I. Like I've said about him before, He's a

1672
01:34:05,199 --> 01:34:05,920
big boss man.

1673
01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:08,680
Speaker 3: Logan Paul's a good one, Anna, But Logan Paul, is

1674
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:10,119
he going to be around or is he going to

1675
01:34:10,159 --> 01:34:12,159
be gone every fucking three months? Because that's the last

1676
01:34:12,159 --> 01:34:13,399
thing anybody wants.

1677
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 2: Right, is he gonna Is he gonna be arrested for cryptos?

1678
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 1: Going?

1679
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:19,560
Speaker 3: Right? If Logan Paul was guaranteed to be here for

1680
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:22,800
a year, I yes, one thousand, yes.

1681
01:34:24,119 --> 01:34:26,720
Speaker 2: Maybe when this current listen, If you're gonna put the

1682
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:29,680
belt on him. You gotta do. The current administration's in office,

1683
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:34,479
because whoever might take over prosecuted these fucking scammers, and

1684
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:35,079
so that might.

1685
01:34:35,119 --> 01:34:38,119
Speaker 3: Actually and also says so is Brock. Yeah, but Brock

1686
01:34:38,239 --> 01:34:41,600
was already proven. See that's the difference is we don't

1687
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,000
know what would happen with Logan Paul in that kind

1688
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:47,399
of limelight. I mean, you expect him to fucking roll

1689
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:50,479
with it like a million bucks, but you don't know Brock.

1690
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:54,039
Brock had already been sonning for a while. He'd already

1691
01:34:54,039 --> 01:34:56,000
been through the mm A game before he started doing

1692
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:58,720
the I'll show up to WWE when I want to

1693
01:34:58,880 --> 01:34:59,399
kind of shit.

1694
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:02,680
Speaker 2: You know, right, he'd had many many level once again

1695
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:05,760
to his story, and even people I like him put

1696
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:09,079
over all the time, like Montese, it's like he still would.

1697
01:35:09,039 --> 01:35:09,560
Speaker 1: Need I.

1698
01:35:11,159 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 3: Don't think dom'll do it. I see Oki, Saint dom dude,

1699
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:16,840
I love Domino was pushing that idea before dan Housen.

1700
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:20,439
Now they just want Dominic to be dan Housen's foil.

1701
01:35:21,079 --> 01:35:24,680
That's what they want. Dominic is now going to be shoehorned.

1702
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:26,920
And don't get me wrong, they're probably both going to

1703
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:30,800
make a lot of money slapping each other around. But

1704
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:34,119
but Dominic is doomed to work Dan Housen and, according

1705
01:35:34,159 --> 01:35:36,079
to Eric Bischoff, for the next ten years.

1706
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:41,680
Speaker 2: So they cooled him down big time. They cooled dom

1707
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:44,760
down big But this Dom's a young guy, so he's

1708
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:47,840
got potential to fucking get you know, get another chance,

1709
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:50,640
get heated up again. But I mean, like I said,

1710
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:54,159
even in the immediate right now, who else is ready

1711
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:58,239
right now? And Sammy was ready two years ago.

1712
01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:01,319
Speaker 3: So h well, that's how long I takes for them

1713
01:36:01,359 --> 01:36:03,399
to check their emails, you know. It's just they're two

1714
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:08,520
years behind guys. An Now, l A Knight's gonna get

1715
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:10,039
a shot, a real one, you know.

1716
01:36:10,279 --> 01:36:15,680
Speaker 2: Like I'm telling you, I have this. I have this.

1717
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:18,920
Really it sounds so fucking dark to think of it

1718
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:21,520
this way, but I have this feeling that La Knight's

1719
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:24,640
finally gonna win it, and then something's physically gonna fucking

1720
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:25,319
go wrong with him.

1721
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 3: Oh Jesus, don't put that out.

1722
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:29,520
Speaker 2: I know, I know, but I just like this. There's

1723
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:32,520
just some part of me, this that that that evil

1724
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:34,560
in me, the Irish and me, you know what I mean,

1725
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:36,199
It's just that that part of me where it's like,

1726
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:38,760
I bet that comfort will win. And then something bottle

1727
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:40,640
happened to him, something.

1728
01:36:40,399 --> 01:36:42,640
Speaker 3: That you want to know what I would really like

1729
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:45,800
to happen in a perfect world. Kevin Owens has already

1730
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:49,680
healed up. He's been swerving us. He's doing okay, he's

1731
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:52,760
been he's been real light on the actual information as

1732
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:54,960
far as his back and neck and everything else goes.

1733
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:57,880
And he comes back on a return and he fucking

1734
01:36:57,920 --> 01:36:58,840
wins it in won.

1735
01:37:00,039 --> 01:37:06,039
Speaker 2: Oh boy, he kills he kills Sammy, kill Sammy. Yeah,

1736
01:37:06,239 --> 01:37:08,079
it would just make it would just be and it

1737
01:37:08,119 --> 01:37:08,840
would make sense.

1738
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 3: You're right, it won't.

1739
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 2: Make so much sense. They would be so and and

1740
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:17,159
that's it. It's like, dude, right there, when people go,

1741
01:37:17,279 --> 01:37:20,680
well why would you why would you use him? Both

1742
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:23,640
me and you were like, there's two huge fucking stories

1743
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:26,680
you could tell him with him and Owens, assuming that

1744
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:29,199
he was actually healthy enough to do it. Him and

1745
01:37:29,279 --> 01:37:30,960
Roman huge fucking sit.

1746
01:37:31,279 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 3: They have a back background to him.

1747
01:37:34,279 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 2: And god, god forbid, I don't even want it to

1748
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:38,560
happen because he sucks. But like even him and j

1749
01:37:41,399 --> 01:37:44,600
I'm like, oh god, no, no, come on, that's still

1750
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:49,720
not seth Rollins has no stories with anybody other than

1751
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:53,560
Roman Reigns truly, and you.

1752
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:55,680
Speaker 3: Know his story with Triple H is a love story

1753
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:57,600
going back many many years.

1754
01:37:58,159 --> 01:37:59,640
Speaker 2: Well, he has to have a story with him since

1755
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:04,039
he lived directly in his colon, so you know, show

1756
01:38:04,119 --> 01:38:05,319
Jesus Christ, all.

1757
01:38:05,319 --> 01:38:07,720
Speaker 3: Right, let's get on here. We got a fucking show tomorrow.

1758
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:10,000
Much love to everybody listening to the show live. Much

1759
01:38:10,039 --> 01:38:12,239
love to the people listening on a download. Check out

1760
01:38:12,239 --> 01:38:14,199
the YouTube, check out the patroon patron dot com, Ford

1761
01:38:14,199 --> 01:38:19,159
Slash Wrestling Soup and uh yeah, we'll see you tomorrow.

1762
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 2: See you assuming me say sa