WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:04.280 Hey, Okay, so after last week's two parter on fear, 2 00:00:04.320 --> 00:00:08.080 I hope everyone's just feeling calm and strong and collected 3 00:00:08.199 --> 00:00:12.720 and most importantly, most importantly ready to talk about trees. 4 00:00:12.919 --> 00:00:15.480 Are you ready? Okay, here's the probably scenario. This is 5 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:17.440 what I'm thinking is happening. You either fucking love trees 6 00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:19.519 and that's why you're here, or you're like, good lord, 7 00:00:19.559 --> 00:00:23.039 podcast dad, what is this long ass episode about trees? 8 00:00:23.719 --> 00:00:26.719 Even get a cover? I'm gonna dive in, but only 9 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:31.839 if it's full of infectious enthusiasm. And boy, howdy, you doubters, 10 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:35.359 you don't know the half of it. This episode will 11 00:00:35.359 --> 00:00:39.240 make you so pumped about trees. You're gonna be bummed 12 00:00:39.399 --> 00:00:42.399 about having skin and blood hearing me so jealous of 13 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:45.799 bark and sap, and you'll have new scrabble words and 14 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:49.000 you'll start questioning if you should just string a hammock 15 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:51.960 up in the backyard and live outside like a big 16 00:00:52.039 --> 00:00:55.560 ape squirrel. But first, let's get some business out of 17 00:00:55.560 --> 00:00:58.000 the way. I'll speak fast, Okay, it's important business, like 18 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:01.280 telling you you can be an olagite who proselytizes with 19 00:01:01.520 --> 00:01:04.599 an ology's shirt or pin or totes if you wear 20 00:01:04.640 --> 00:01:08.920 totes at ologiesmirch dot com. Thank you all for buying 21 00:01:08.920 --> 00:01:13.120 and wearing merch. Patreon dot com. 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Jude 44 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:22.280 Kenny wrapped up a review by saying, boy, howdie, you 45 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:24.719 may find yourself pulling off the road during your commute 46 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:27.759 on a Tuesday to sit in the still of your car, 47 00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:30.560 staring out the window while you ponder your life choices. 48 00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:36.919 Five stars. Thank you for that. Now onto dendrology. Okay, 49 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:40.960 the trees. You're ready for trees? Okay, So dendro comes 50 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:44.360 from ye old Greek meaning tree. And if you're like that, 51 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:47.400 why does that remind me of brain stuff? Well, that's 52 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:49.520 because the dendrite is a part of a nerve cell 53 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:51.919 that looks a lot like a tree. So dendra, there 54 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:54.680 you go. Trees. So you've got trees in the brain. 55 00:02:55.039 --> 00:02:57.479 You're gonna have trees on the brain after this, I'll 56 00:02:57.479 --> 00:02:59.560 tell you that much. You're gonna be pining for more 57 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:06.800 wrist facts. Oka, So the term dendrologist is a little funky. 58 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:10.919 So technically is anyone who studies trees, which this human 59 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:13.840 being I interviewed has done. I have never met anyone 60 00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:18.400 with such a raw zeal or deep knowledge for and 61 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:22.000 of trees. You will love him. He's been studying tree 62 00:03:22.039 --> 00:03:25.479 biology and dendrology since two thousand and seven and he's 63 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:28.719 currently a tree inspector for the city of Portland, Oregon, 64 00:03:29.080 --> 00:03:31.960 and he gives talks all over the world about trees. 65 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:36.120 He teaches sold out classes. I was like, so, yeah, 66 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:39.520 so you're a dendrologist, right, and he demurred at the 67 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:43.719 title of dendrologist. I'm like, dude, this is like when 68 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:46.719 I was goth. I didn't realize I was a goth 69 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:49.439 until I look back at pictures and I was like, oh, 70 00:03:49.759 --> 00:03:52.840 I was definitely a goth. You study trees, you're a 71 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:58.400 damn dendrologist, accepted, but he was like, we'll get to that. 72 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:01.080 So I was headed to see for a day to 73 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:03.800 shoot this show called Innovation Nation, that's one of my 74 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:06.560 other jobs, and I thought, I bet there's got to 75 00:04:06.599 --> 00:04:08.759 be tree people up here. There's so many trees. So 76 00:04:08.759 --> 00:04:11.000 I did a little googling and I saw there was 77 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:13.439 a sold out tree workshop the day I was there, 78 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:16.360 led by this Portland based dude. And then I began 79 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:18.959 very gingerly stalking him online to try to get in touch. 80 00:04:19.319 --> 00:04:22.720 The only social media I could find was a Facebook account, 81 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:26.839 and after following like a few leads, I emailed his 82 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:31.480 bosses and then Presto. The next day, I creepily invited 83 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:33.720 him to hang out in my hotel room. I figured 84 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:36.040 his bosses knew where he was, and I hoped he 85 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:39.160 would not abuse his access to chainsaws. He did not. 86 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:40.000 He was great. 87 00:04:40.279 --> 00:04:44.160 So we talked for literally two hours, which was very 88 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:48.639 difficult to cut down. No tree pun intended about so 89 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:52.240 many burning curiosities. Do trees feel pain? How do they 90 00:04:52.279 --> 00:04:55.360 talk to each other? What's up with crown shyness? Does 91 00:04:55.399 --> 00:04:58.519 he have a favorite tree? Will trees make you write 92 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:00.920 your novel any faster? Does he get sad when he 93 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:03.800 looks at wooden objects? What is tree porn? And are 94 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:07.480 there any super sad stories about trees? Spoiler yes and 95 00:05:07.519 --> 00:05:10.759 also great ones also yes. So I'm gonna go out 96 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:14.040 on the lamb and say this is a great episode, 97 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:19.040 so stick around for some really wonderful tree facts. Well, yeah, 98 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:21.240 lumber up. I swear to God, that's gonna be the 99 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:24.800 last tree punt. Please trust me for a person who 100 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:28.519 is somewhat in denial about being a dendrologist. 101 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:50.720 Casey Clapp, I've never done anything like this. Yay, that's 102 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:51.279 gonna be great. 103 00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:54.480 So this is your mic. You were you weren't the 104 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:57.480 easiest person to to gently stalk online. 105 00:05:57.519 --> 00:06:00.439 Oh that's fantastic. So I didn't know I could be found, Yeah, 106 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:01.560 anyone whatever. 107 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:04.000 Look, I was like, I must talk trees with him. 108 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:06.920 Oh my god, this is so flattering. Thank you. 109 00:06:07.279 --> 00:06:09.879 Okay, So I have a question, Yes, go ahead. Arborist 110 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:13.879 versus dendrologists. Yes, what's the difference. 111 00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:18.480 So an arborist specifically focuses on trees in the urban area, 112 00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:20.160 but most of the time and arbus is one who 113 00:06:20.199 --> 00:06:22.399 manages a tree in the urban area. So if they're 114 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:24.759 going to cut a tree, remove a tree, plant trees, 115 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:26.759 they're the ones usually have something to do with it. 116 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:30.920 But then a dendrologist is usually someone that's more on 117 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:33.040 the research side of the world, and they're like, Okay, 118 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:36.079 we're going to study this plant it's characteristics, or this 119 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:39.199 tree more specifically, it's characteristics and where it fits in 120 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:40.920 with the rest of all the other trees in the world. 121 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:45.519 Sodrologists basically work on the back end of things, classifying 122 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:48.439 all the different trees into certain organizational standards. 123 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:51.839 So can you call if you study and you love trees, 124 00:06:51.879 --> 00:06:54.160 can you call yourself a dendrologist? 125 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:56.160 Yeah, I would say, I would say so. 126 00:06:56.160 --> 00:06:59.720 So Casey got his Bachelors of Science in forest management 127 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:03.240 with a focused on urban forestry, and then he went 128 00:07:03.319 --> 00:07:07.480 got a master's focusing on arbor culture. So it seems 129 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:11.160 that an arborist deals with trees, knows a lot about trees, 130 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:17.720 and a dendrologist studies identifying trees specifically. So Casey studied 131 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:20.920 dendrology but is now an arborist. But you, guys, anyone 132 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:23.040 who knows this damn much about trees is adendrologist in 133 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:25.759 my book, Okay, let's just agree there are bigger issues 134 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:30.279 in the world. Okay. When you were going about your education, yes, 135 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:36.040 so Casey's deciding to study trees, Yeah, beautiful time. Where 136 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:36.800 do you start? 137 00:07:37.560 --> 00:07:41.199 Well, for me, it started with a just a tenacity 138 00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:43.600 about nature. I like to go outside and I like 139 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:45.000 to do things. I like to plain in the mud 140 00:07:45.160 --> 00:07:47.920 and climb trees. And then I did. I built a 141 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:50.199 pond in my backyard, and I was like, I love 142 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:52.399 this I'm gonna do it forever, and then ended up 143 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:56.199 being that I hated landscape architecture, like I can't do this. 144 00:07:56.199 --> 00:08:00.480 This is so infunctional stuff. It's all I say, frilly 145 00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:02.480 that I don't think they gives them enough credit. They 146 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:04.720 do very good work, but I was very much a 147 00:08:04.759 --> 00:08:06.720 person who needed to manage something and it needed to 148 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:08.959 be active, and it needed to have an amount of 149 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:12.759 utility in the landscape. So I was like, not even 150 00:08:12.759 --> 00:08:15.079 really interested. So but I was killing it at all 151 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:16.920 the tree courses I was taking, I was just like, 152 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:19.639 this is immensely fascinating. I want to learn more about 153 00:08:19.639 --> 00:08:22.319 trees for no other reason than learning it. So then 154 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:25.800 I transferred over to Oregon State University and I did forestry, 155 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:29.959 which was a way huge over correction because they don't 156 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:33.720 do trees for anything but making money. For the most part, 157 00:08:34.799 --> 00:08:36.879 We're just gonna grow these trees, to cut them down, 158 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:39.919 to make pulp, make paper, make money, do whatever they're 159 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:40.240 gonna do. 160 00:08:40.519 --> 00:08:42.759 I didn't know that's what forestry was. I thought forestry 161 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:45.919 like tree hugging, like every tree had a name. 162 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:50.039 Oh gosh, oh, I wish this is for the people 163 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:52.679 who grew up on Ferngali where we're just like, I 164 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:55.799 love this so much. It is an industry like any 165 00:08:55.840 --> 00:08:58.840 other nowadays where you go out to mostly clearcuts for 166 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:01.559 all intents and purposes, which is they get a bad name, 167 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:03.759 but they're not actually that bad. In the grand scheme, 168 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:05.639 all they would do is go out and say, Okay, 169 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:07.720 we have these many are this many trees, they're growing 170 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:09.879 this fast. We want to cut them down in fifty 171 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:11.799 years and make a profit. How can we do that? 172 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:13.879 So it's a really important thing, and you know, we 173 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:16.120 have tables and chairs and pencils and all these things 174 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:18.240 that we use every single day. So it's a really 175 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:22.399 important renewable resource. But unfortunately they are looking at it 176 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:24.679 more or less for dollar signs, which is fun. 177 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:27.879 I was wondering, is someone who clearly loves trees. 178 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:30.879 Yeah, I got a lot of tattoos trees? 179 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:31.759 Do you really? 180 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:35.639 Yeah? I got photosynthesis tattooed across my chest. 181 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:40.720 You're a walking power point. Yeah, sometimes especially try you 182 00:09:40.759 --> 00:09:42.480 have photos sent this is on your chest. 183 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:45.159 Yeah, what else do you have? I got a sugar 184 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:48.279 maple on this arm, and then I have roots coming 185 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:50.399 down off of this arm, and I'm wearing a long 186 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:51.799 sleeve shirts so obviously you can't see it. 187 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:54.279 And your long sleeve shirt, by the way, has trees 188 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:54.440 on it. 189 00:09:54.639 --> 00:09:56.440 Yes, yeah, it has a don redwood on the back. 190 00:09:56.799 --> 00:10:00.440 Yeah, so you're covered in trees externally and and also 191 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:02.879 from a dermatological. 192 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:03.720 Perspective, yeah, pretty much. 193 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:07.440 Casey also has a pair of white bark pine cones 194 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:11.720 tattooed on the inside of his right bicep. They're beautiful 195 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:15.120 the tattoo. I'm not making a comment about his bicep. 196 00:10:15.159 --> 00:10:18.799 Good job either way, that's your business. He has an 197 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:21.960 acorn on his other bicep, and he also has a 198 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:26.679 Dodo bird to represent the delicate balance between endangered plants 199 00:10:26.679 --> 00:10:30.679 and animals. So he's like a walking botanical garden pamphlet. 200 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:35.039 Obviously a very huge advocate for more trees in cities. 201 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:37.519 And for me, I'm like an LA resident. So this 202 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:39.679 part of the conversation made my heart choke. With Longing, 203 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:43.600 I was like, em, do you have trees in your city? 204 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:44.840 You lucky son of a bitch. 205 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:47.320 So every tree in the urban area is providing some 206 00:10:47.399 --> 00:10:49.720 amount of benefit to the city. Many times people have 207 00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:52.039 no idea, and it's a very subconscious sort of thing, 208 00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:55.360 but there are reasons why certain streets covered with trees 209 00:10:55.480 --> 00:10:59.799 or neighborhoods are more idyllic, and other people live in 210 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:02.000 places that have no trees on their streets and it's 211 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:05.519 a much hotter place, it's more rigid, more sort of industrial, 212 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:07.080 and everyone's like, aah, that's a little more or more 213 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:09.600 of an uncomfortable space. Yeah. So basically what I do 214 00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:11.759 now is say, here are all the characteristics of trees. 215 00:11:11.960 --> 00:11:13.960 Here's how they flow, here's how they function, and here's 216 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:16.039 how you can best use them on your side or 217 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:18.320 in a city to accomplish all these great things that 218 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:18.960 they do. 219 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:20.159 Do you have a favorite tree? 220 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:23.480 I do, yeah, but it changes pretty constantly what it now. 221 00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:25.840 Right now, it would be the coast redwood, which is 222 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:26.759 so stereotypical. 223 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:30.200 I know, why is that stereotypical? It's a majestic tree. 224 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:34.639 I completely concur But people have generally said, like they 225 00:11:34.679 --> 00:11:36.000 come up with the first thing that comes to them. 226 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:38.840 So a lot of times when I ask people, they're like, oh, willows. 227 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:42.080 I'm like cool. Eighty percent people say willows or something 228 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:44.399 like that. It's really strange no one thinks about until 229 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:45.440 you ask them the question. 230 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:47.799 Do you know what your favorite tree is? I was like, 231 00:11:47.879 --> 00:11:50.120 do I have a favorite? Yes, I do. It's an oak. 232 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:51.960 I have a favorite tree. I guess we all do, 233 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:56.200 but Coastal Redwood's Casey's favorite. They grow from southern Oregon, 234 00:11:56.360 --> 00:11:58.519 just down the central coast of California all the way 235 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:01.000 down to about Santa Cruz, and they grow in this 236 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:05.120 fog belt right near the shore because that fog helps 237 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:08.039 get moisture to the top of these like three hundred 238 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:11.399 and fifty foot giant trees. And if you're needing to 239 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:13.720 imagine a silhouette of one, you're like, what do they 240 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:16.480 look like? You know? The logo for Stanford, Okay, Well, 241 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:20.399 that there is the image of al Pelo alto, one 242 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:25.440 particularly famous local coastal redwood tree. It's also the unofficial 243 00:12:25.480 --> 00:12:30.759 mascot of Stanford. It's dubbed very creatively the Tree, and 244 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:36.000 according to Wikipedia, the Tree, despite very heroically replacing a 245 00:12:36.159 --> 00:12:39.360 decidedly more shitty mascot, the tree has been called one 246 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:43.799 of America's most bizarre and controversial college mascots. People hate it. 247 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:46.320 It regularly appears at the top of the internet's worst 248 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:49.600 mascot lists, which apparently exist. But I'm going to very 249 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:52.720 publicly beg to differ because once you have seen a 250 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:56.399 jiff of a dancing layered green tent with a very 251 00:12:56.440 --> 00:12:59.080 happy human being inside, your heart's gonna be one. I 252 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:03.120 love it anyway. Coastal redwoods Casey's favorite tree. 253 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:04.240 So naturally I get it all the time. So we 254 00:13:04.279 --> 00:13:06.600 had a lot of time to think. Okay, So specifically, 255 00:13:06.759 --> 00:13:10.320 they're just they're just the bomber trees. They are rod resistant, 256 00:13:10.360 --> 00:13:15.279 so almost no funguses affect them. They are insect resistant, 257 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:17.799 so insects don't get into them, they don't eat the foliage, 258 00:13:17.799 --> 00:13:20.000 they don't get into the bark. Their bark is like 259 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:24.559 literally feet thick, and it's fire resistant, so nothing can 260 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:27.519 penetrate it. Fire doesn't burn it. Sometimes fire will actually 261 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:29.679 hollow out the inside of the tree be lave the 262 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:32.919 bark alone. But then the trees actually survive because they 263 00:13:32.919 --> 00:13:35.919 can sprout from any place that still has functionality down 264 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:38.919 to the roots. So not only are they also the 265 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:41.240 tallest trees in the world, some of the longest lived, 266 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:44.399 some of the biggest in terms of volume, So they've accomplished, you, like, 267 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:47.960 all these superlatives. Then on top of that, they basically 268 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:51.360 can outlive anything. They don't have any more predators, and 269 00:13:51.399 --> 00:13:53.720 they can sprout. Most conifers can't do that. If you 270 00:13:53.759 --> 00:13:55.919 cut them down at the base, they're done. They're ended, 271 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:58.320 really on it. For a redwood, you cut it down 272 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:00.320 at the base and the roots just shoot up all 273 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:02.480 these new sprouts and you're like, oh, the tree still lives. 274 00:14:02.480 --> 00:14:02.919 This is great. 275 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:04.679 The roots are like, I don't care, I'm going I'm 276 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:05.840 gonna go ahead exactly. 277 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:08.440 Yeah. So they're just there are the world's just most 278 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:10.879 bomber trees. And if you haven't been there, you should go. 279 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:14.000 They're just there's nothing like in the world. 280 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:18.039 Quick anatomy lesson of trees. Okay, what are we dealing with? 281 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:20.600 And also true or false? The root system is like 282 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:24.039 kind of as big as the actual branches and cannon 283 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:27.919 MIGHTI yocrely both okay, okay, so give me an anatomy, yeah. 284 00:14:27.799 --> 00:14:29.879 Sort of both. Okay, So real quick, there are four 285 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:33.519 main organs of a tree. First off, what is a tree? 286 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:36.480 A tree, by some definitions is literally like this one 287 00:14:36.519 --> 00:14:38.480 guy on a book I have, he describes it as 288 00:14:38.519 --> 00:14:41.080 a bush with a stick up the middle. Okay, that's 289 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:43.600 literally It's just like, okay, this a pretty dumb down version. 290 00:14:44.200 --> 00:14:46.759 I tried to track down what this book might be, 291 00:14:47.039 --> 00:14:49.200 just to see if it had any other cool definitions, 292 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:52.440 like that a flower is a leaf but on acid. 293 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:56.279 But upon googling bush with a stick up the middle, 294 00:14:56.559 --> 00:14:59.080 literally all that turned up were photos of George W. 295 00:14:59.159 --> 00:15:03.399 Bush flipping people to bird and also this video during 296 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:05.360 his presidency as he's doing a sound. 297 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:14.879 Check, just the one finger victory salute. 298 00:15:14.919 --> 00:15:17.840 I'm gonna say, by today's standards, that seems downright charming 299 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:20.840 and presidential as hell. I'm fine with it anyway. A 300 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:23.240 tree a bush with a stick up the metal. 301 00:15:23.480 --> 00:15:25.960 So that's what we will define as a tree. Nine 302 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:28.320 of the things that you know of as a tree 303 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:30.919 are a tree. But then there's things like say Joshua 304 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:34.000 tree that's technically a yuka. It doesn't put on annual 305 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:36.279 rings the same way the redwood or an oak wood. 306 00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:39.240 Then there is banana trees. Banana trees are actually just cells. 307 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:40.960 There's no woodiness to them. You can go over and 308 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:43.919 knock them over if you really want, not necessarily it's 309 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:47.000 probably not that easy, but they're just big, big cells. 310 00:15:47.159 --> 00:15:51.519 Big big things are basically just large herbs, just like 311 00:15:51.639 --> 00:15:54.759 a hosta or anything else. Bear. Yeah, So there's no 312 00:15:54.799 --> 00:15:57.399 actual woody parts in them. So what we still call 313 00:15:57.480 --> 00:16:00.879 them trees. So it's all like, where's the definition. So 314 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:02.720 with so if we have a tree and we say, okay, 315 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:05.840 it's gonna woody thing, let's just use a Let's use 316 00:16:05.840 --> 00:16:08.080 the organ white oak for example. Okay, so the organ 317 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:10.679 white oak one usually has a single stem, comes out 318 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:14.000 has this big, nice, beautiful globe like crown. So there's 319 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:16.960 four main organs. You have the roots, you have the 320 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:19.600 stem and the branches, then you have the flowering parts, 321 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:22.360 and you have the leaves. Those are the four things 322 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:24.559 that you would call organs in a tree, just for 323 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:28.399 simplicity's sake. Four main organs. Okay, So the roots of 324 00:16:28.440 --> 00:16:31.360 a tree generally, at least in the Pacific Northwest and 325 00:16:31.399 --> 00:16:34.039 in our more temperate regions, this is gonna blow so 326 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:36.799 many mines. They're only in the top two to three 327 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:39.919 feet of soil. What that's it. That's it, even the 328 00:16:39.960 --> 00:16:42.200 big guys, even the big guys. Yeah. So if you 329 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:44.799 ever are looking at a at a tree, you go 330 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:46.279 out into the woods and you see a tree that's 331 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:48.600 toppled over and it's picked up its entire root ball. 332 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:50.840 If you measure from the top of that down to 333 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:53.279 the very lowest route. You're not gonna get past four 334 00:16:53.320 --> 00:16:54.080 feet anywhere. 335 00:16:54.159 --> 00:16:56.879 Crazy. I always thought they went way down, Yeah, and go. 336 00:16:56.919 --> 00:16:59.519 Out, they go out. Why go down any further If 337 00:16:59.559 --> 00:17:01.919 you can remain stable and you got all your nutrients 338 00:17:01.919 --> 00:17:03.919 and all your water and oxygen you need at the top, 339 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:06.359 there's no reason to go down. You got all the 340 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:11.279 stuff you need. But basically you have imagine a wine glass. 341 00:17:10.960 --> 00:17:13.920 Or a like an umbrella that has a base. 342 00:17:13.960 --> 00:17:16.720 Exactly an umbrella sitting on a platter. It would be 343 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:19.039 the best way to imagine it. And so that's why 344 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:21.720 roots are so important. People like, oh, it's not that, 345 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:23.759 you know, they go down. You're like, no, no, no, no, 346 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:26.279 it doesn't. People think it's that mirror image, and it's 347 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:26.839 definitely not. 348 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:28.680 Oh yeah, because I feel like you do see that 349 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:29.920 kind of like mirror image. 350 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:31.799 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a friend who got 351 00:17:31.799 --> 00:17:33.359 a tattoo of that exact same thing. And this is 352 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:35.519 before I knew anything about it. But yeah, the roots 353 00:17:35.559 --> 00:17:38.279 go down, it almost mirrors the exact same thing going up. 354 00:17:38.319 --> 00:17:40.799 And it's very romantic versions like oh that's great, you know, 355 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:44.319 you know, a reflection of blow and above but it's 356 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:45.039 completely false. 357 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:47.319 Oh my god, I had no idea. Okay, So that's 358 00:17:47.319 --> 00:17:48.200 the anatomy of a trade. 359 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:50.680 Really well, there's one extra step, so this is the 360 00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:54.279 next most important thing. Trees are compartmentalizers, so if you 361 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:56.480 cut off one of their branches, they will just close 362 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:58.680 it off and keep moving, just like a compartments in 363 00:17:58.680 --> 00:18:00.640 a ship. All you have to do close it off 364 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:02.960 and then everything else can go on as normal. So 365 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:05.559 they have these two main things. You have cambium layer, 366 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:08.160 which is the vascular system of the tree, just below 367 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:11.279 the bark, just outside the wood. That's where the trees 368 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:13.519 grow and put on their new rings. That is where 369 00:18:13.519 --> 00:18:16.240 they send nutrients and water from the ground up. And 370 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:19.200 that's called the xylum. That's a good word. If you 371 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:22.440 play scrabble, it's X Y L E M. You can 372 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:24.599 fit that in on a triple word score with that X. Man, 373 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:26.720 you're killing it. You're really doing well. Oh man. One 374 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:28.200 time I was also I was making a joke, so 375 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:29.839 I know a lot of Latin terms for things, just 376 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:32.799 because it's the scientific names of plants and their parts. 377 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:34.960 And I was playing scrabble with a friend at a 378 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:36.799 coffee shop in Portland and this other guy came up 379 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:37.839 and he's like, hey, man, can I just play with 380 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:39.599 you guys? And we're like, oh yeah, totally cool, and 381 00:18:39.640 --> 00:18:41.200 I may we made the joke. I was like, yeah, 382 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:43.680 well we're only using Latin terms, and I swear to 383 00:18:43.720 --> 00:18:46.039 God without even blinking an eye of the guy was 384 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:48.519 just like okay, and we're like, who did we get 385 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:52.640 ourselves into? He massacred us really nice grable. Oh my gosh, 386 00:18:52.839 --> 00:18:55.799 he knew how plays gravel? Just a job. 387 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:56.519 What was this deal? 388 00:18:56.599 --> 00:18:58.680 No idea, I don't even remember. I didn't ask. It 389 00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:01.200 was just we were stubb were shocked. Yeah, we had 390 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:03.000 to leave that coffee shop and think to ourselves, We're 391 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:07.039 never playing scrabble in public again, certainly never with anybody else. 392 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:10.119 Jennings, it was just Jeopardy and gam know. 393 00:19:10.640 --> 00:19:13.319 A fake mustache? Oh my god. 394 00:19:13.400 --> 00:19:16.920 Okay, so xylem okay. Buckle up because this parts can 395 00:19:16.960 --> 00:19:19.599 get a little technical, but you're gonna learn a few 396 00:19:19.640 --> 00:19:23.160 new scrabble words as promised, and or names for your 397 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:29.880 gluten free organic children cambium, flowhem, photosynth, and xylum, of course, 398 00:19:29.920 --> 00:19:32.720 which is Greek for wood. And yes, that is where 399 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:36.119 the word xylophone comes from so Scrabble, Jeopardy, your prep 400 00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:37.920 for anything. Okay, back to Xylon. 401 00:19:38.079 --> 00:19:40.680