WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:37.119 Oh, Trigger Warner. This podcast may include explicit content that 2 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:39.320 will take you out of your comfort zone and make 3 00:00:39.399 --> 00:00:56.880 you question reality. Listeners, discretion is advised. What is going 4 00:00:56.960 --> 00:01:00.600 on you guys? Thank you so much for re turning. 5 00:01:01.159 --> 00:01:05.799 It is going down today. We are back. Welcome to 6 00:01:05.879 --> 00:01:11.920 the fucking show. It's Programmed to Kill Part five. Uh. 7 00:01:12.079 --> 00:01:15.319 I'm really excited about this one because we are gonna 8 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:18.840 go over a case today that I had previously never 9 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:22.480 heard of until I read program to Kill the book, 10 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:25.840 and I think that you all will find it highly 11 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:31.319 fucking interesting and we are going to just dive right in. 12 00:01:31.640 --> 00:01:37.920 I hope everyone is having no great fucking day. Look. 13 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:41.040 I even did my hair for you guys today. Wow, 14 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:44.760 look at that? Look at that? What does it look like? Julia? Well, 15 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:48.120 I can't fucking tell you. If you want to see it, 16 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:51.040 you're just going to have to go to Cosmic Peach 17 00:01:51.159 --> 00:01:55.840 Patreon Room two three seven or the Coult Patreon and 18 00:01:56.480 --> 00:02:00.719 take a look at it there. But you know, I 19 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:02.920 do want to say if you guys are sick and 20 00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:05.560 tired of hearing the ads, if you're like, if I 21 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:08.439 hear one more ad, I'm gonna literally blow my brains 22 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:13.960 out Uh, it's called patreon ad free content early release 23 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:19.199 content on my patreon. So again, if you're wanting to 24 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:23.639 see my illustrious hair today, or if you are sick 25 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:26.120 and tired of the ads, go on over to the 26 00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:31.479 Cosmic Peach patreon or the cult patreon and uh you 27 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:38.599 will uh get all of the things. So here we 28 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:44.879 fucking go, right, we are going to be diving into 29 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:51.120 the case of Carrie Stainer today because it fucking stands out. Okay, 30 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:56.080 it's one of the most bizarre serial killer cases on record. 31 00:02:57.000 --> 00:03:01.520 So the crimes that were ultimately attributed to Carrie Stainer 32 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:04.879 were not committed until the early months of nineteen ninety nine. 33 00:03:04.919 --> 00:03:09.639 Here's the thing, though, the high strangeness of the Stainer 34 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:15.599 family began long before that. Exactly how long before is 35 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:21.000 not entirely clear, but a friend of Carrie's told Esquire 36 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:25.719 magazine quote there's just something, you know, off with that 37 00:03:25.879 --> 00:03:30.000 whole family end quote. And since as far back as 38 00:03:30.080 --> 00:03:35.199 nineteen seventy two, there has been some serious weirdness going 39 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:39.479 on in the Stainer house. Okay, Now, on December fourth 40 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:45.360 of nineteen seventy two, Carrie's younger brother, Steven was supposedly 41 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:50.120 abducted by a male pedophile working with an accomplice who 42 00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:53.680 held him as a sex slave for more than seven 43 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:59.759 fucking years. Who was his abductor a shit dick named 44 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:04.960 Ken Parnell. Now let me show you something, Okay. Ken 45 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:09.280 Parnell was a Texas native who is said to have 46 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:15.719 been extremely self destructive. He had completely fucked his own 47 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:20.600 eyes up by purposely staring into a bright light, literally 48 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:24.279 did it to himself, attempted to pull his own teeth out. 49 00:04:24.560 --> 00:04:29.240 He set numerous fires, attempted suicide on a number of occasions, 50 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:32.959 and got up from the toilet even though there was 51 00:04:33.079 --> 00:04:39.040 still evident color on the paper. Okay, madness, I'm speculating 52 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:41.439 on that last one, but I mean he seems like 53 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:46.600 the type you know, shitty ass. So anyways, he had 54 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:51.160 also not surprisingly spent a fair amount of time institutionalized 55 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:55.279 in both prisons and mental hospitals, including spending much of 56 00:04:55.319 --> 00:05:00.279 his teen years in California juvenile lockups, and Steve even 57 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:04.879 Stayner was definitely not his first victim. Parnell had previously 58 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:08.720 been convicted in nineteen fifty one of kidnapping and sexually 59 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:12.560 assaulting an eight year old boy, but he was back 60 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:17.079 on the streets by nineteen fifty five, but then incarcerated 61 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:22.040 again before year's end for a parole violation. He was 62 00:05:22.079 --> 00:05:26.199 soon released again, only to be convicted of armed robbery 63 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:29.920 a few years later. Now for that crime he served 64 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:35.160 some seven years. But five years after his release from 65 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:40.560 that prison term, Parnell abducted Stephen Stayner, and it was 66 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:45.720 not by chance. Parnell literally admitted to his accompliced Irvin 67 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:50.560 Murphy that Stephen Stainer had been selected prior to the 68 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:54.879 time of his kidnapping. Sounds a lot like Johnny gosh Right. 69 00:05:55.800 --> 00:06:00.399 And following the abduction, Parnell and Stayner lived for a 70 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:05.360 time in Yosemite, where Parnell worked at the Yosemite Lodge, 71 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:09.519 which happened to be located just a few hundred yards 72 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:14.399 from get this shit, Carrie Stayner and Steven Stainer's fucking grandfather, 73 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:22.160 who was universally described as an exceptionally cruel man who 74 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:29.000 also didn't wipe thoroughly if I'm just speculated, But anyways, so, 75 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:33.759 following their little state in Yosemite, Parnell and Stephen Stayner 76 00:06:33.959 --> 00:06:39.000 moved to Santa Rosa and then to Ukayah, from where 77 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:44.439 Jim Jones People's temple had recently departed for San Francisco 78 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:48.759 and where Michael Louquina would later be accused of child 79 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:57.240 exploitation coincidence, I think not? Then? All Right? In February 80 00:06:57.319 --> 00:07:02.519 nineteen eighty Stainer escaped from fucking Parnell, which is to 81 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:06.600 say that he broke free to some extent from Parnell's 82 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:13.000 psychological control, because there was nothing that physically prevented him 83 00:07:13.079 --> 00:07:17.319 from escaping at any time. Right, But, like I always say, 84 00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:24.680 psychological control is the most dangerous game. Steven Stainer could 85 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:28.319 have anytime drove a screwdriver up this guy's stick hole 86 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:30.959 and fucking made a run for it, But he didn't. 87 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:35.720 Why is that because he had fucking Stockholms. He was 88 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:42.759 fucking under the psychological control of Parnell. But so, what 89 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:46.439 then did it for him? How did he find the 90 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:50.399 motivation to break through the psychological conditioning to make a 91 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:57.240 run for it? What was the last straw while it 92 00:07:57.360 --> 00:08:00.560 was prompted by his desire to save the life of 93 00:08:00.600 --> 00:08:04.240 a little five year old boy named Timmy White from 94 00:08:04.279 --> 00:08:09.759 the fate that awaited him? And what did Stephen Stainer do? Well, 95 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:14.160 he got Timmy White, brought him along with him on 96 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:19.040 his escape and became something of a hero in the process. 97 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:23.399 And Stephen returned to his family home, even though it 98 00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:26.759 came out later that he was said to feel closer 99 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:29.560 to the man who had sexually assaulted him for seven 100 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:34.039 years than to his own fucking estrange family. Literally, you guys, 101 00:08:34.200 --> 00:08:39.039 this is the fucking Stockholm syndrome. And so he returns 102 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:43.320 to his family home and YadA, YadA, YadA, he is 103 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:49.840 set free from Parnell. But what else is crazy is 104 00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:54.759 that the Stainer family never talked about this ordeal with 105 00:08:54.799 --> 00:09:00.480 Stephen like ever. It's fucking weird. Even Carrie Stainer's friend said, quote, 106 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:03.360 it was like it never happened, Like he was never 107 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:08.240 kidnapped or anything. End quote. And on fucking top of that, 108 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:12.360 the Stainer parents wouldn't even allow Stephen to get fucking 109 00:09:12.440 --> 00:09:16.919 therapy to help deal with this shattered life that he's had. 110 00:09:17.399 --> 00:09:19.759 And by the age of sixteen, he had dropped out 111 00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:22.559 of high school and moved out on his own, and 112 00:09:23.120 --> 00:09:27.240 you know, God bless, he's probably somewhere fucked up. And 113 00:09:27.639 --> 00:09:32.480 you know, seven years abducted by a dude getting sexually assaulted, 114 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:35.399 his family just buried it under the rug, never talked 115 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:39.480 about it and never got him therapy, never got him help, nothing. 116 00:09:39.960 --> 00:09:42.480 But you know, drops out of high school, moves out. 117 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:46.279 He's on his own now. But what of Parnell. So 118 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:51.720 as for Parnell, this fucking master, manipulator, child, raping, piece 119 00:09:51.799 --> 00:09:56.519 of garbage, shit, dumpster ass motherfucker. He was charged with 120 00:09:56.600 --> 00:10:00.519 the kidnapping and false imprisonment of both stain Or and 121 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:05.720 Timmy White, as well as with sexual molestation of Stephen, 122 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:11.399 and investigators on the case also discovered that Parnell had 123 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:16.919 also molested a number of Stephen Stainer's friends. I thought 124 00:10:17.080 --> 00:10:23.919 he was abducted. How did he have friends? Well, Stephen 125 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:28.879 Stainer attended school under a name given to him by 126 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:34.519 Parnell and outwardly lived a normal life with his father 127 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:41.159 quote unquote. So he was literally living life with Parnell, 128 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:46.080 had a different name, was going to school, bringing friends home, 129 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:51.039 and Parnell was raping those kids too. And get this shit, 130 00:10:51.240 --> 00:10:56.120 Just like the fucking Franklin case, one of Stephen's friends 131 00:10:56.279 --> 00:11:03.639 actually served as Parnell's as in the Timmy White abduction. 132 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:07.919 Fucking lured him in, just like Paul Banasi said he 133 00:11:08.039 --> 00:11:12.320 used to do. Lure boys in for the ring, just 134 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:15.759 like what he said he did with Johnny Gosh. Fucking 135 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:21.759 this is so crazy. This is absolutely crazy. And now 136 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:26.480 here's a side tangent. Did any of you see the 137 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:33.559 movie The Changeling with Angelina Joee? It fucking perfectly describes 138 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:39.039 the Stephen Stainer case, right. The dude abducted little boys 139 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:44.960 and used them to lure in other little boys to 140 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:49.440 rape and murder, kept them in a fucking chicken coop 141 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:53.120 on a farm. Literally, dude, if you haven't seen the movie, 142 00:11:53.759 --> 00:11:57.360 you need to because it's a fucking reality check if 143 00:11:57.360 --> 00:12:01.919 I've ever seen one. The Change is the story of 144 00:12:02.039 --> 00:12:05.840 Johnny Gosh, and it is the story of Stephen Stainer 145 00:12:06.279 --> 00:12:09.480 and all these other boys that were abducted and molested. 146 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:13.840 There is so much I'm almost thinking that the fucking 147 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:17.200 Changeling b I'm pretty sure it said it was based 148 00:12:17.240 --> 00:12:19.879 on a true story at the beginning of the movie, 149 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:22.840 and it's hitting even closer to home. Now, what if 150 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:27.240 The Changeling is the fucking story of this Stephen Stainer kid? 151 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:34.960 Like really? Anyways, back to the story, It was also 152 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:39.200 discovered that Parnell was fond of taking polaroid photos of 153 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:45.559 his captive sex slaves and possibly other victims as well, 154 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:51.799 and for fucking completely unexplained reasons. His bail was set 155 00:12:51.879 --> 00:12:56.039 at just twenty thousand dollars, which allowed him to walk 156 00:12:56.120 --> 00:13:00.759 free after posting a two thousand dollars bond. He was 157 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:05.120 tried in separate proceedings for the crimes committed against White 158 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:10.679 and Stainer, and he was convicted in both proceedings, but 159 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:16.000 he received, of course, a remarkably lenient sentence for both 160 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:20.919 of the crimes. And get this shit, Okay, for the 161 00:13:21.240 --> 00:13:25.720 multitude of offenses he committed against Stephen Stainer, he received 162 00:13:25.879 --> 00:13:35.720 just a twenty month sentence. Okay, imagine, all right, if 163 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:43.440 this was your kid, he did this too, twenty three months. 164 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:48.279 I've had fucking loans for longer than that. It took 165 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:51.720 me like fucking five years to pay my car off. Okay, 166 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:57.840 And this guy abducted, raped, and molested a child for 167 00:13:57.960 --> 00:14:01.879 seven years and he gets to slide with a twenty 168 00:14:02.480 --> 00:14:08.080 three month sentence. Let me signe tangent again to put 169 00:14:08.120 --> 00:14:13.480 this into perspective. Okay, here we go. There is this 170 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:20.159 young woman, her name is Marie Robards. Okay, Marie, at 171 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:28.960 age sixteen fucking stole some baryam acetate from her high 172 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:35.000 school chemistry class, laised her father's tacos with it, I'm 173 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:41.679 not fucking kidding, gave him a lethal dose because she 174 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:45.399 was throwing a temper tantrum because he said she couldn't 175 00:14:45.399 --> 00:14:47.960 get her nipples pierced or some shit like that. I mean, 176 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:51.720 whatever it was, it doesn't matter. Okay. The point is, 177 00:14:51.799 --> 00:14:57.200 at sixteen, she poisoned her father to death, gave him 178 00:14:57.240 --> 00:15:01.000 the last Taco Tuesday of his life, and she was 179 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:04.320 convicted of murder in a nineteen ninety five trial and 180 00:15:04.440 --> 00:15:10.559 sentenced to twenty seven years in prison. Granted, she was 181 00:15:10.639 --> 00:15:13.759 released on parole in two thousand and three, she still 182 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:20.080 had to serve eight years. Okay. The crazy thing is that, 183 00:15:21.679 --> 00:15:27.039 in my opinion, it was manslaughter because she said she 184 00:15:27.279 --> 00:15:30.480 was just trying to give him a stomach ache, maybe 185 00:15:30.600 --> 00:15:36.480 some milkis sprang out the ass diarrhea, but accidentally gave 186 00:15:36.559 --> 00:15:41.080 him too much and he's dead as doornail. Okay, turns 187 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:45.759 out there was no proper dosing instructions on the illegally 188 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:52.879 obtained high school chemistry class baryamacetate container. All right, but anyways, 189 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:57.279 if a sixteen year old retard like Marie can get 190 00:15:57.440 --> 00:16:01.960 a twenty seven year sentence and still serve eight of it. 191 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:09.240 Why are all these goddamned mongrels like Henry Lee Otis, 192 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:16.000 tool Ken Parnell getting off the goddamned hook with these 193 00:16:16.240 --> 00:16:25.799 ridiculously short, if any sentence Unless there's something else at 194 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:29.080 play here, you want to know if something is suspicious, 195 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:36.879 look at the conviction sentence. Look and see. If you 196 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:39.480 want to know if some people are up to fucking 197 00:16:39.600 --> 00:16:42.759 no good or have some kind of connections, look at 198 00:16:42.879 --> 00:16:51.320 the prison sentence. Okay, anyways, now things were relatively quiet 199 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:56.759 in the Stayer Home for the next nine years, until 200 00:16:56.919 --> 00:17:01.960 May nineteen eighty nine, when Steve was thrust back into 201 00:17:01.960 --> 00:17:05.559 the limelight due to the airing of a movie about 202 00:17:05.559 --> 00:17:09.680 his case entitled I Know My First Name is Stephen 203 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:17.599 quote unquote. The media's reopening of the case was actually 204 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:23.799 followed just weeks later by the untimely death of Stephen 205 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:30.200 Stainer himself, who was killed instantly when an unidentified car 206 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:35.160 turned abruptly into the path of his speeding motorcycle, and 207 00:17:35.359 --> 00:17:41.119 wouldn't you know, the car and its driver promptly disappeared. 208 00:17:42.440 --> 00:17:47.480 Stephen left behind a wife and two young kids, which 209 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:52.200 not only sensationalized his case but kept his fucking mouth 210 00:17:52.240 --> 00:17:59.839 closed in case people started asking questions. But this life 211 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:04.319 story of Stephen Stayner sounds a lot like the movie 212 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:06.599 I want to make about the lottery Ticket, doesn't it? 213 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:13.480 No justice, barely even got a twenty three month sentence 214 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:17.440 for what he did to this kid, and no therapy, 215 00:18:17.799 --> 00:18:22.440 no resolution, and then they make a movie about his life. 216 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:27.359 They get nervous, he's gonna start spouting off fucking dead 217 00:18:27.599 --> 00:18:36.640 motorcycle accident, wife and kids at home, completely abandoned. This 218 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:40.599 is the world that we live in. And meanwhile, back 219 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:47.160 on the ranch, fucking Parnell was by that time already 220 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:50.799 out of prison and a freeman once again, after serving 221 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:57.759 just twenty three months for his crimes, less time than 222 00:18:57.839 --> 00:19:02.799 Stephen Stainer had every even spent as his prisoner. And 223 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:10.880 the following year, Jesse stainer uncle Jesse Carrie and Stephen 224 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:15.519 Stainer's uncle, was found shot to death in his home. 225 00:19:16.759 --> 00:19:21.799 This is interesting, right well. Jesse, or as he was 226 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:26.920 more commonly known Jerry, was the family member closest to 227 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:33.920 the serial killer. You remember at the beginning of this episode, 228 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:37.680 it wasn't going to be about Steven, it is going 229 00:19:37.720 --> 00:19:41.880 to be about his serial killer brother Gary. And now 230 00:19:42.240 --> 00:19:47.119 let's look a little bit closer at Carrie fucking. In 231 00:19:47.279 --> 00:19:51.720 his youth, Carrie spent more time at his uncle Jerry's 232 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:54.880 house than he did at his own house. Right, The 233 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:58.240 two even lived together for a brief time, and Uncle 234 00:19:58.359 --> 00:20:01.279 Jesse was killed with a sh shotgun blast to the 235 00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:05.559 head fired from his own gun, allegedly by an intruder 236 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:11.519 he had surprised in his house and fucking somehow. Following 237 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:16.039 the two deaths, the Stainer family again managed to stay 238 00:20:16.079 --> 00:20:20.279 out of the news for nearly a decade. That is 239 00:20:20.640 --> 00:20:24.200 until Carrie the Stainer son, who hadn't been held for 240 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:27.759 seven years as a mind controlled sex slave, decided for 241 00:20:27.880 --> 00:20:33.119 no apparent reason to become a serial killer. That's the 242 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:39.799 official story anyways. So we have Uncle Jesse shot in 243 00:20:39.839 --> 00:20:46.720 the head dead, Stephen Stainer dead after being a abuse 244 00:20:46.839 --> 00:20:49.839 victim for seven years of his childhood, and now we've 245 00:20:49.839 --> 00:20:53.640 got Carrie the serial killer. Let's dig in, shall we. 246 00:20:55.119 --> 00:21:00.480 So In the early morning hours of February sixteenth, nineteen 247 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:04.839 ninety nine, three women were allegedly abducted from their room 248 00:21:05.079 --> 00:21:09.519 at the Cedar Lodge which lies just outside the westgate 249 00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:15.359 to Yosemite National Park. Strangely, though there was no indication 250 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:20.799 that any abduction had actually taken place, there were damp 251 00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:24.839 towels in the bathroom indicating that at least one of 252 00:21:24.880 --> 00:21:28.160 the three had showered. Other than that, the room was 253 00:21:28.319 --> 00:21:32.000 neat and orderly, with the beds made and the key 254 00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:36.279 left out. There was no blood and no sign of 255 00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:40.359 a struggle. Now, the three women were scheduled to check 256 00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:42.799 out later that morning in order to catch a flight 257 00:21:42.839 --> 00:21:45.640 out that day, and it looked as though the women 258 00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:48.680 had simply decided to check out early in the morning 259 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:51.799 without going to the front desk. There was literally no 260 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:55.799 sign of a struggle whatsoever. Now, get this shit. This 261 00:21:55.880 --> 00:22:01.880 dude named Yon's Sooned, father of Julie's and husband of 262 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:06.759 Carol Sooned, two of the three missing women, did not 263 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:10.200 even bother to report his wife and daughter missing when 264 00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:13.599 they failed to depart from their scheduled flight, and also 265 00:22:13.720 --> 00:22:16.640 failed to contact him with an explanation for why they 266 00:22:16.680 --> 00:22:21.559 never fucking came home. Did not even bother to report 267 00:22:21.720 --> 00:22:27.039 them missing. In fact, not only did Yon's not bother 268 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:31.519 to report his wife and daughter missing, it only occurred 269 00:22:31.559 --> 00:22:35.519 to him to do it twenty four fucking hours later, 270 00:22:35.720 --> 00:22:38.400 and only after he had played a round or two 271 00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:44.440 of golf. But it makes sense, right, considering all three 272 00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:50.920 of the missing women came from extremely wealthy families. The 273 00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:57.559 Suns are a branch of the dynastic Carrington family, and 274 00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:05.559 the third woman, Julie's UN's friend, Sylvina Palasso, was also 275 00:23:05.720 --> 00:23:10.359 from a wealthy, well connected family in Argentina. So these 276 00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:14.359 are some of these high level, upper echelon fucks, okay, 277 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:18.000 and their wives and daughter goes missing and they don't 278 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:21.079 even bother to report them missing. Instead, they go out 279 00:23:21.079 --> 00:23:26.960 and play golf, right, And this is what they fucking do. 280 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:29.759 They will off their own family members, their own kids, 281 00:23:29.799 --> 00:23:32.319 their own wife. They do not give a fuck. But 282 00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:35.480 they have to say face right, they have to act 283 00:23:35.559 --> 00:23:40.480 like they're this concerned husband, fucking you know. They gotta 284 00:23:40.559 --> 00:23:43.680 make sure everybody knows how sad they are. Oh, my 285 00:23:43.799 --> 00:23:47.400 wife and my daughter are missing as somebody how, which 286 00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:51.240 is why the fucking FBI was immediately called in to 287 00:23:51.319 --> 00:23:54.720 assist in what was in the beginning a simple missing 288 00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:58.640 person's case. But these are these upper echelon motherfuckers, right, 289 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:05.599 So just ten days after the reported disappearances. The FBI 290 00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:10.799 announced that it was bringing in two profilers, despite the 291 00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:13.960 fact that there was not yet any hard evidence that 292 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:17.720 the women had even been met with foul blay. Seems 293 00:24:17.799 --> 00:24:22.440 a bit extreme, right, They're calling in the fucking team 294 00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:26.319 from criminal Minds over a missing person's case with the 295 00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:29.279 only evidence being some damp towels on the floor of 296 00:24:29.319 --> 00:24:33.799 a hotel room. Okay, they didn't even allow Johnny Gosh's 297 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:37.759 mom to file a missing children's report for like three days, 298 00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:41.039 and even after that they were like, best we can 299 00:24:41.119 --> 00:24:46.640 do is milk carton. Anyways, three weeks later, right, the 300 00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:52.480 women's car was found, yielding the unrecognizable remains of Carol 301 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:59.960 Soon and Sylvia Palasso. Seems like they kind of anticipate 302 00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:04.960 finding some mutilated corpses from the beginning, doesn't it. But 303 00:25:05.119 --> 00:25:10.440 so only then did it become a homicide case. Now, 304 00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:14.119 the vehicle, which was over one hundred miles from the 305 00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:19.759 alleged abduction site, was thoroughly and by all appearances, quite 306 00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:26.039 professionally burned to a fucking crisp, completely obliterating all forensic evidence, 307 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:32.440 and so badly where the bodies burned that it was 308 00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:37.319 difficult to even determine their gender. Okay, puss slips French 309 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:41.119 fried right off, now a titt in site, I mean, 310 00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:47.880 burnt to a crispy critter. And they were found in 311 00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:51.559 the trunk of the car, which the FBI did not 312 00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:55.200 bother to open until the day after the car was 313 00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:59.920 found and identified, which is fucking odd, right, considering that 314 00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:03.640 the back seat was burnt up, leaving the remains of 315 00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:07.519 the bodies visible to even the hunter who discovered the 316 00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:13.079 vehicle in the first place. And some fuckinghow Carol Soon's 317 00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:18.519 wallet turned up in Modesto, over one hundred miles from 318 00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:22.319 the abduction site. And I know what you're thinking, right, well, 319 00:26:22.359 --> 00:26:27.200 what happened to Julie. Well, fucking Julie Son's nearly decapitated 320 00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:33.720 body was later found at yet another location, roughly midway 321 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:37.200 between the Cedar lodge and the location of the car 322 00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:40.039 and the other two bodies. How did they know where 323 00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:44.079 to look for Julie if it was in this anomalous 324 00:26:44.119 --> 00:26:46.480 spot in the middle of nowhere. Well, there was an 325 00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:53.640 anonymous taunting letter that was sent to the FBI tipping 326 00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:58.599 them off as to the whereabouts of the body. And 327 00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:03.799 due to the complexities of the crime, many investigators on 328 00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:09.200 the case assumed that multiple perpetrators were involved, and during 329 00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:12.440 the course of the investigation, at least a dozen people 330 00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:16.200 were implicated in the murders. All of them were part 331 00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:21.359 of a drug trafficking network operating within that area, and 332 00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:26.359 one of these was a man named Billy Joe Strange 333 00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:33.279 not kidding, that was his last name, and like Carrie Stainer, 334 00:27:34.039 --> 00:27:38.759 Billy Joe worked at the Cedar Lodge Okay, he was 335 00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:43.720 the night clean up man at the lodge's restaurant, the 336 00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:48.519 same restaurant Carrie Stainer lived above and worked in as 337 00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:53.240 a handyman, which will be important later in the story. Anyways, 338 00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:59.680 So this Joe Stranger's girlfriend was another suspect, and she 339 00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:03.400 also worked at the lodge as a night clerk Okay. 340 00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:11.039 Also implicated was a man named Darryl Stevens who occasionally 341 00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:15.640 roomed with Strange and his girlfriend. Maybe he got some 342 00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:20.039 strange while he was living there. Just kidding, but so. 343 00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:25.880 Darryl Stevens had a lengthy arrest record, as did another 344 00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:33.680 suspect whose name is Michael Larwick Okay, and Michael Larwick's 345 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:41.039 rap she included arrests for attempted manslaughter, rape, kidnapping, child stealing, 346 00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:45.799 assault with a deadly weapon, not wiping to full completion, 347 00:28:46.279 --> 00:28:49.720 and various drug offenses. What is it with these shitty 348 00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:55.559 ass motherfuckers. But so, when police came to arrest Larwick, 349 00:28:56.440 --> 00:29:01.559 he led his would be apprehenders on a high speed 350 00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:06.200 chase in which one officer was shot, before barricading himself 351 00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:11.279 in a house and initiating a fourteen hour fucking standoff. 352 00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:15.799 But so he was eventually driven out with fucking tear 353 00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:21.000 gas and this whole fucking chaos ensued. But he was 354 00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:27.640 eventually brought to court for his arraignment, and oddly, the 355 00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:31.519 courtroom doors were locked to the press and public and 356 00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:34.720 nobody knows what the fuck happened in there. No one 357 00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:38.759 was allowed to see that shit go down. But so 358 00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:46.240 moving forward, another dude who doesn't fucking wipe completely. Jeff Keeney, 359 00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:51.359 another suspect in the women's murders, also led police officers 360 00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:54.759 on a car and foot chase, leaving a trail of 361 00:29:54.839 --> 00:29:58.880 drugs in his wake. His home was found to contain 362 00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:05.599 three artable meth labs you know, standard household items. And 363 00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:12.720 then moving on to our next suspect, Larry Utley, a 364 00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:17.759 convicted sex offender and an associate of Michael Larwick who 365 00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:21.519 was also deeply involved in the meth trade and was 366 00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:24.559 thought to be possibly involved in the murders as well. 367 00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:29.759 Now Ute Lee was also an associate of this guy 368 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:36.839 named Eugene Earl Dykes, Michael Larwick's half brother, and yet 369 00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:40.759 another suspect. You guys, this shit goes fucking deep. All right? 370 00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:43.480 How many people have I just named so far that 371 00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:46.240 they have suspected in the deaths of these three women, 372 00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:51.039 all involved in the drug trade, all have fucking history 373 00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:55.599 of fucking records of fucking shit, right, and once in custody, 374 00:30:55.720 --> 00:31:01.279 fucking Eugene claimed that Michael Larwick had admitted to playing 375 00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:05.039 a role in the kidnapping of these ladies. He also 376 00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:09.319 admitted that he had received from Michael Larwick checks and 377 00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:14.559 jewelry that had belonged to each of the victims. And 378 00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:20.319 fucking a friend of Eugene's acknowledged being asked to forge 379 00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:26.880 identification to access fucking Carol Soon's bank account, and another 380 00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:31.799 friend admitted to having taken her wallet to fucking Modeste Though. 381 00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:36.680 All right, so the pieces of the puzzle are starting 382 00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:42.880 to form, right, and Eugene whose ex convict father, who 383 00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:48.119 was also implicated, agreed to take a polygraph test, which 384 00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:51.880 seemed to confirm that he was being truthful about his 385 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:56.400 involvement in not only the kidnappings but also the murders 386 00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:02.279 of these three women, and his girlfriend admitted to investigators 387 00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:07.200 that Eugene had confided to her that he and another 388 00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:11.400 man had killed the fucking three women by slitting their throats. 389 00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:18.720 In the end, all Eugene himself ultimately fucking confessed first 390 00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:23.279 to helping transport the bodies, but then later it finally 391 00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:28.279 admitted to the murders themselves, and fucking he said that 392 00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:31.240 he had transported at least one of the bodies, which 393 00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:35.359 was apparent by the fact that pink fibers found on 394 00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:40.519 Julie's corpse, which were thought to have been from some 395 00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:44.200 kind of a blanket her body was wrapped in matched 396 00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:48.680 pink fibers recovered from a jeep used by fucking Eugene. 397 00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:53.160 So there's the connection, right. Not only is he admitting 398 00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:56.359 it out of his own mouth, now they've matched fibers 399 00:32:56.400 --> 00:33:00.480 from one of the corpses to fucking fibers in a 400 00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:04.880 jeep of eugenees. These same fibers were also found on 401 00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:09.759