WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.439 --> 00:00:05.040 We got some water or something. 2 00:00:06.839 --> 00:00:10.240 Out here. I can't go now. 3 00:00:10.119 --> 00:00:12.039 It's did my better light came on and I did 4 00:00:12.119 --> 00:00:14.839 that with the left, and they thing running across the yard. 5 00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:17.239 Not a good sight, may have or something I look 6 00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:18.559 like to me, I don't know what it was. 7 00:00:19.160 --> 00:00:21.320 The right across the yard, it seems to be a 8 00:00:21.359 --> 00:00:24.079 big put leaning against a tree in a wood an area. 9 00:00:24.559 --> 00:00:27.359 I have seen plenty of people with big feet, but 10 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:28.760 not bigfoot. 11 00:00:28.320 --> 00:00:30.679 Tree minks and rush. He sees about a seven and 12 00:00:30.760 --> 00:00:33.960 seven and a half foot tall fast watch looking back 13 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:34.640 at him, and. 14 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:36.719 That kind of looks like a wolf, but not like 15 00:00:36.719 --> 00:00:37.560 a neighborhood dog. 16 00:00:37.719 --> 00:00:39.520 Pick these stores for what they are, and hopes that 17 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:43.240 maybe if it's out there, then show me yeah, and 18 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:46.880 says he might have caught the mythical Cuba cabra creature 19 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:50.000 terrorizing his chickens. It's like a grunt and a knock, 20 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:53.240 like a oh. I think there's kind of a cultural 21 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:55.520 tendency for people to want to make Bigfoot a quote 22 00:00:55.560 --> 00:01:00.000 unquote monster. Welcome to e c b r O big 23 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:08.560 Foot Radio. All right, everybody, Hey, it's your host, Daniel 24 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:10.480 bin Waugh. Glad to have you on here. I'm glad 25 00:01:10.519 --> 00:01:13.000 that get tuned in. If you have not done so, 26 00:01:13.159 --> 00:01:16.159 be sure to share our podcast around ECBR or big 27 00:01:16.200 --> 00:01:19.959 Foot Radio. We're here and we're glad to be able 28 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:24.400 to have awesome guests on our show and talk Bigfoot, 29 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:27.599 cryptis and everything in between. All right here on ECBR 30 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:31.120 Big for Radio. We're more than just a podcast show. 31 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:34.040 You know, a lot of the ones that join in 32 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:36.480 on here, a lot of we know each other personally. 33 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:39.560 I've met a lot of these individuals who have been 34 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:43.120 on as a guest at some point in time as 35 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:47.239 our guests tonight. For those who don't know him, he's 36 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:50.840 no stranger to me, he's no stranger to my resource group. 37 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:55.879 He's no stranger to Virginia. But mister William Nighthawk is 38 00:01:55.920 --> 00:01:59.439 our guest tonight, and first of all, thank you William 39 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:01.519 for a great to do this. I'm glad to have 40 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:05.200 you on here. Man. I know, just before we started this, 41 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:08.719 I've just kind to touch a base of view on uh, 42 00:02:08.919 --> 00:02:10.599 you know, everything that you've been going through as far 43 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:13.520 as how are you feeling? And I know you're you're 44 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:15.560 kind of hanging in there, aren't you. 45 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:19.400 Yeah, Yeah, I'm still recovering from surgery. It's it's a 46 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:24.000 it's a long road, but I'll get there eventually. And Okay, 47 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:27.599 I plan on getting back out in the field once 48 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:30.840 the weather breaks and getting back into it with the 49 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:32.719 boots on the ground as soon as I can. 50 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:40.039 So, oh absolutely, that's what I'm hoping for, the same thing. 51 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:41.800 I mean, I don't know how the rest of our 52 00:02:41.879 --> 00:02:44.400 winter is going to go, but you know, I guess 53 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:46.080 we'll have to play that by year, but I know 54 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:48.960 for sure, you know, I'm looking forward to the month 55 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:52.960 of May where we have we're planning the spring group 56 00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:55.000 camp out for the E. C. B r O right 57 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:59.360 here in Virginia, same place where we we were at 58 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:05.960 in October. Her that place, it's something special there. I mean, 59 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:09.879 I know it, I feel it. You know. One of 60 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:12.280 our guests that came down and participated with our camp 61 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:16.439 up from Pennsylvania. Uh, the gentleman's wife actually saw a 62 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:20.120 big foot. She didn't realize. Yeah, she didn't realize she 63 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:22.719 saw a big foot. She saw a bear. So she 64 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:25.840 started describing the behaviors and what it did and how 65 00:03:25.879 --> 00:03:30.280 it ran off. She has no recollation or understanding or 66 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:33.840 comprehension of how bears moved and that you know, she 67 00:03:33.879 --> 00:03:37.639 doesn't see much wildlife. I don't know. I guess you 68 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:40.280 could say she was kind of a city girl. She 69 00:03:40.400 --> 00:03:44.000 never really witnessed much wildlife. But when she started sharing 70 00:03:44.039 --> 00:03:47.520 her information with her husband and Melissa David that was 71 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:52.240 still there at camp, they're like, what that wasn't a bear? 72 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:56.120 Bears don't run on two legs, especially that fast, you know. 73 00:03:56.879 --> 00:04:03.199 So, yeah, I've seen bear actually walk about, but they 74 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:06.280 only walk a couple maybe two or three or even 75 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:09.199 at the maximum five or six steps and then they're 76 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:14.759 going so but h and everybody's seen the circus bears 77 00:04:14.759 --> 00:04:16.800 and stuff that are taught to walk. But you know, 78 00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:20.839 woh yeah, wild life is gonna is going to do 79 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:24.279 exactly what wildlife is meant to do in the wilderness, 80 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:27.920 and that is exactly live and for a bear to survive, 81 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:31.079 they survive better on four legs than they do too. 82 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:35.839 Right now, there was a young bear I know, actually 83 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:37.720 they gave it a name, but I don't remember the 84 00:04:37.839 --> 00:04:41.600 name the bear. It was actually a bear that had 85 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:45.079 injured pause where it couldn't put any weight of pressure 86 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:48.800 down on the front paws. However, to survive and move around. 87 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:51.879 It adapted to staying on his two hind legs and 88 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:56.040 walking on his legs right. So if it does go down, 89 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:58.120 I never seen a video of actually going down here 90 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:00.839 the whole every The only VI I've seen was it 91 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:04.720 stayed upright by peedle because you know, it had no 92 00:05:04.839 --> 00:05:08.399 choice but to adapt to that way to get around. 93 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:13.480 So so yeah, we all know, I mean, for survival, 94 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:16.120 animals got to adapt and make adjustments, you know, to 95 00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:16.519 get by. 96 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:21.399 No humans can do it. Bears and gorillas and and 97 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:23.839 any kind of primemate can do it too. 98 00:05:23.959 --> 00:05:30.720 So oh yeah, absolutely, good point. Absolutely. So. Uh you know, 99 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:33.600 I know I've had you on here as a guest 100 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:37.319 quite a while ago. It's been a long time that 101 00:05:37.480 --> 00:05:42.439 was to be actually on my other podcasts. But I'm basically, 102 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:46.360 you know, basically starting the ECB or big Foot Radio 103 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:49.720 back up because when I had it up and going before, 104 00:05:49.959 --> 00:05:52.319 it seemed like it was pretty successful where it was 105 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:55.560 reaching a lot of people, and that is my goal 106 00:05:55.680 --> 00:05:58.920 to continue to reach more people, to spread awareness, to 107 00:05:59.040 --> 00:06:02.600 let everybody hear stories and knowledge and research you know, 108 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:05.959 all in between. And that's kind of what I want 109 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:09.000 to kind of get into tonight, you know. Just I mean, 110 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:11.480 there will be some other things. I will promote some 111 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:13.720 events a little later. So if you want to hear 112 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:17.000 about these uptown events for the coming year, I actually 113 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:19.839 have them included in my little three minute commercial ad 114 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:22.759 that I got going on. Uh So we'll do that 115 00:06:22.800 --> 00:06:29.399 here after a while. See. So, there's been a couple 116 00:06:29.399 --> 00:06:33.279 of questions in the past with our past couple of guests. 117 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:36.399 I've kind of been asking them because you know, it's 118 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:39.040 a kind of a common question I've seen around on 119 00:06:39.120 --> 00:06:43.800 social media where people have been asking, uh. Given at 120 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:48.879 the time of year, we're in winter, you know. Well, actually, 121 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:51.600 before I actually even asked this question, I actually kind 122 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:56.360 of back up a little bit. Yeah, William, if you 123 00:06:56.360 --> 00:06:58.120 don't mind, can you give everybody a little bit of 124 00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:01.160 background about who you are and what you what you 125 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:02.199 are into this field? 126 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:04.399 Sure, sure I can do that. 127 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:05.360 I am ye. 128 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:11.319 I am Lakota and Cherokee and Shawnee Native American Indigenous 129 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:17.759 first Nations to the Americas, to the United States, and 130 00:07:17.959 --> 00:07:21.399 I am an ordained minister for the Native American Church, 131 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:25.120 which my title is a Wachasta Wacon. I'm considered a 132 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:31.120 holy man and a medicine man, and I have literally 133 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:37.519 been born into the dark arts of the native spiritual 134 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:41.319 path and then eventually going over to the the better 135 00:07:42.199 --> 00:07:45.879 aspects of it and the traditional ways of of our 136 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:50.439 people in a good way what we call the Red 137 00:07:50.519 --> 00:07:54.439 Road journey and or the Navajo call it the Walk 138 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:59.639 and beauty. In that time frame, I've done all kinds 139 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:04.639 of peremonials and stuff. I've interacted with a very well. 140 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:09.079 I grew up on a very highly supernatural and paranormal property. 141 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:17.319 The property surrounding ours was highly active with Bigfoot. Chay 142 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:22.560 Tanka is big brother, elder big brother to us, and 143 00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:25.600 at least that's the way I was taught, and to 144 00:08:25.879 --> 00:08:28.560 give it its due respect when you're in the woods, 145 00:08:29.439 --> 00:08:32.399 But I interacted with all kinds of stuff. We had 146 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:38.279 everything from shadow figures to unexplained lights in the sky, 147 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:45.440 dog man, Bigfoot, all kinds of stuff, swamp which is 148 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:48.639 you name it. All kinds of just weird, creepy stuff 149 00:08:48.679 --> 00:08:52.080 happened around the property I grew up on, and that 150 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:55.159 kind of continued into my life and I got into 151 00:08:55.240 --> 00:09:00.120 the paranormal field and Bigfoot research and all the cryptids, 152 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:03.360 and I've been doing it ever since. And I'm I'm 153 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:10.039 actually uh been into probably intensely wise for a better 154 00:09:10.039 --> 00:09:12.440 part of over forty five years. 155 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:19.639 Wow, that's awesome. Uh, that's really good information, especially I 156 00:09:19.639 --> 00:09:21.559 mean some I mean I knew a lot of that 157 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:23.879 information because it was a little bit in here that 158 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:30.320 was kind of new for me. Now with all that 159 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:32.279 being said, that this is going to bring us into 160 00:09:32.639 --> 00:09:35.399 because you know, the next couple of questions I wanted 161 00:09:35.399 --> 00:09:39.279 to ask you, Well, you know I've had other friends 162 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:43.519 I used to associate with that are Native American descent. Uh, 163 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:45.200 they're based out of I don't know if you've ever 164 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:49.480 had the opportunity to meet uh or ever have a 165 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:54.720 discussion with Baltimore Galavan Jr. H. He's based out. Yeah, 166 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:59.919 he's based out of Texas, like the eastern part of Texas. Now, 167 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:03.000 a lot of his information, you know, was basically given 168 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:05.879 to him. Talk to him. That has been passed down 169 00:10:06.159 --> 00:10:10.360 from some of his elders you know, around his area. 170 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:14.480 And there's one thing he's always he's told me that 171 00:10:14.720 --> 00:10:18.440 I will never forget. It's actually I always considered it 172 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:24.879 really good information. But as far as folklore, the one 173 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:27.799 thing that he has told me, he says Native Americans 174 00:10:27.879 --> 00:10:32.200 love their folklore and regardless of how you view it. 175 00:10:32.759 --> 00:10:35.279 Of course, folk lore if if anyone looks up folk 176 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:38.639 lore basically bored of mouth and stories that have been 177 00:10:38.679 --> 00:10:45.000 passed down from generation upon generation. And with that being said, 178 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:48.879 you know, some of it could be just just stories, 179 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:51.000 but then again, some of it can have truth behind 180 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:53.799 it that you know, it's like history. We want our 181 00:10:53.919 --> 00:10:56.960 history passed down. We want to learn and understand from 182 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:57.559 our history. 183 00:10:57.600 --> 00:10:57.799 You know. 184 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:02.919 So although nowadays in today's population, or you know, whatever 185 00:11:02.919 --> 00:11:04.919 how you want to put it, they don't teach history 186 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:08.840 like they used to. You know, it's basically whatever. It's 187 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:13.480 the narrative that where they could throw everything out. But well, yeah, 188 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:17.759 what's your take on Native American folklore? I mean you 189 00:11:17.840 --> 00:11:20.279 consider it all truth in one way, shape or form 190 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:22.840 or are they just stories that did get path round 191 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:23.919 because they were just stories? 192 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:27.360 This is this is coming from somebody that grew up 193 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:31.159 traditionally with the the legends and stuff of of my 194 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:36.120 people and you know, having it passed down from generation 195 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:40.879 to generation. My father sitting at the kitchen table at 196 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:43.840 midnight with me when I was a child and telling 197 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:48.480 me the old stories and you know, telling me what 198 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:50.919 to do if I ever had a run in with 199 00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:54.799 big brother, you know, and and and how to basically 200 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:57.960 not not make them angry or upset at me for 201 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:02.120 being in in his living room, because ultimately it is 202 00:12:02.159 --> 00:12:06.639 his living room. And you know, one thing that I 203 00:12:06.679 --> 00:12:10.600 think people need to consider is that when you're dealing 204 00:12:10.639 --> 00:12:15.440 with legends, especially indigenous legends from around the world, you're 205 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:18.799 dealing with a little bit of exaggeration, probably out of 206 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:23.559 whether it's fear or just you know, rage or or 207 00:12:23.679 --> 00:12:25.840 you know, just to embellish a little bit, to teach 208 00:12:25.879 --> 00:12:27.679 the young ones, you know, what to do and what 209 00:12:27.759 --> 00:12:34.919 not to do as consequences. But and excuse me, I 210 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:36.960 got to catch my breath every now and then. But 211 00:12:38.679 --> 00:12:42.600 to go on, you you have to consider that legends 212 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:50.559 are based on fact. Whether it's fifty, it's it's up 213 00:12:50.600 --> 00:12:53.320 in the air. But legends are based at some point 214 00:12:53.399 --> 00:12:59.240 on facts, eye witness accounts, and you know, eyewitness accounts. 215 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:02.159 When it comes to Native Americans, especially back in the 216 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:08.320 old days, we didn't have a written language to to 217 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:13.240 document things. We uh we did uh you know, pictorials 218 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:17.399 and stuff on on on cave walls or cliff sides 219 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:20.600 and stuff, or even our teepees. Back then we would 220 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:24.519 put something on to symbolize us as a clan. And 221 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:30.759 you know, we need to determine the difference between the 222 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:36.000 flesh and blood, which is factual and I'll get into 223 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:39.799 that here a little bit later and supernatural. 224 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:44.799 Okay. 225 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:49.320 Yeah, So basically what I mean by that is you 226 00:13:49.440 --> 00:13:53.600 have distinctively two separate ways you can go. Consider it 227 00:13:53.679 --> 00:13:56.799 like a fork in the road or the fork in 228 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:01.039 a path that you're taking. And you know, everybody talks 229 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:04.559 about all these aggressive big feet that they're having encounters 230 00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:07.720 with or if it's a dog man or whatnot, how 231 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:12.360 they have the red glowing eyes and or orange eyes, 232 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:17.080 you know, and acting really aggressive and you know, doing 233 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:22.200 bluff charges and and screaming and hollering, you know. And 234 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:25.399 then you have the encounters where people are just hiking 235 00:14:25.480 --> 00:14:32.799 and and they're being basically kind of like flanked by 236 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:37.320 big feet, just walking alongside with them from a distance away, 237 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:41.080 just to watch them. So yeah, I think I think 238 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:46.039 you have two distinct possibilities here. And with my being 239 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:51.120 into the spiritual aspect of the my indigenous culture for 240 00:14:51.240 --> 00:14:56.000 so many years, I can tell you that without a 241 00:14:56.039 --> 00:15:02.639 doubt that in the old days when Native Americans would 242 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:06.879 bless grounds and and ask the creator to to protect 243 00:15:06.960 --> 00:15:10.279 the burial grounds or the mounds and stuff of of 244 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:15.559 our indigenous ancestors that passed away. We would in our 245 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:20.120 words and our ceremonies, we would almost invoke what we 246 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:27.320 call elementals, which is an earth bound spirit that we 247 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:32.600 would request to guard over our loved ones, our ancestors 248 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:37.039 and sacred ground. And you know doing it. You know, 249 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:42.639 words have power. Anybody that's that deals into uh the 250 00:15:42.679 --> 00:15:46.120 magic and all that knows words have power in the 251 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:49.759 spiritual aspect of it. Even preachers will tell you that. 252 00:15:49.879 --> 00:15:52.320 You know, when you go to church and you hear 253 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:55.679 that fiery sermon and and you're you're here and all 254 00:15:55.720 --> 00:15:57.799 the all the the good stuff, and it gets you 255 00:15:57.879 --> 00:16:01.519 fired up, that's the spiritual power because the words have power. 256 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:06.320 So when we do ceremony, we we call upon those 257 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:11.080 powers of the land and our ancestors to protect the land. 258 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:15.759 And sometimes you know, people that they go and hunt 259 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:19.480 and and do things in a bad way come across 260 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:26.000 these these malevolent encounters with what they describe as a 261 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:29.440 bigfoot with red glowing eyes and all that. I tend 262 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:32.840 to think those are more of the supernatural type of 263 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:38.960 beings that were invoked on the land. And then the 264 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:41.799 flesh and blood ones are like like you and I 265 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:45.480 talk about a hundred times, you know, they're the ones 266 00:16:45.559 --> 00:16:51.159 that we interact with that that we see occasionally. I 267 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:53.799 on on on the on the lucky side, have had 268 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:57.960 a chance to actually interact with them. So I kind 269 00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:01.120 of learned growing up as a child what to do 270 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:05.039 and what not to do. And I'll get into a 271 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:09.839 couple incidents as I had and growing up, but you know, 272 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:13.039 we do need to figure out the distinct difference between 273 00:17:13.079 --> 00:17:17.480 the encounters, you know, as well as I do that. 274 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:21.440 I always tell everybody when you go out into the woods, 275 00:17:21.559 --> 00:17:24.559 go in a good way, you know, because Big Brother 276 00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:26.759 knows you're coming to the woods before you know you're 277 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:30.279 going to the woods, right, and that's just you know, 278 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:33.680 that's part of the tradition of and the legend of 279 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:39.359 Big Brother. So you know, just just go in a 280 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:41.880 good way, go with a good heart, clear your mind, 281 00:17:42.359 --> 00:17:47.920 don't go with any ill intentions. You know, you'd be 282 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:50.359 surprised how many people I hear take a six pack 283 00:17:50.359 --> 00:17:52.240 of beer out when they go hunting and all that, 284 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:54.720 and there they'll be sitting there, you know, in a 285 00:17:54.759 --> 00:17:57.599 tree stand drinking beer and throwing beer cans on the 286 00:17:57.640 --> 00:18:01.279 ground and waiting for their buck to come up, and 287 00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:03.519 all of a sudden, there's a big sasquatch in front 288 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:05.480 of them with the red glowing eyes charging at him, 289 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:10.160 you know, you know, and they wonder why they're they're 290 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:13.519 screaming at him, and they're angry with them. Well, you know, 291 00:18:13.640 --> 00:18:18.039 you're you're hunting in their hunting grounds first off, and secondly, 292 00:18:18.079 --> 00:18:22.160 you're disrespecting their living room, you know, and those kind 293 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:28.119 of encounters are gonna happen, you know, unfortunately. But you know, 294 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:31.279 most of my encounters have been very I'd say ninety 295 00:18:31.319 --> 00:18:34.680 nine percent of my encounters personally growing up have been very, 296 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:38.799 very non violent. It's been more of a of an 297 00:18:38.920 --> 00:18:42.200 educational thing where they were teaching, you know, teaching me, 298 00:18:42.319 --> 00:18:44.160 you know, how to how to respect them and how 299 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:46.079 to keep with at my distance and all that. 300 00:18:46.279 --> 00:18:51.920 So yeah, I mean that makes sense because with what 301 00:18:51.920 --> 00:18:56.000 you're talking about, it's bringing back uh one kind of 302 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:56.920 makes me think about. 303 00:18:56.720 --> 00:18:59.640 My experience from back twenty fourteen a little bit, because 304 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:02.400 I mean I wasn't alone. There was there were six 305 00:19:02.440 --> 00:19:07.400 of us totally, and what we encountered, which I can't prove, 306 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:09.599 but I believe it was a family unit. There was 307 00:19:09.640 --> 00:19:12.720 three of them. But you know, I mean, I believe 308 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:16.480 the whole situation was they were curious of us as 309 00:19:16.480 --> 00:19:19.839 we were of them when we all connected, you know, 310 00:19:19.960 --> 00:19:23.039 so of course, and then at the same time, which 311 00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:24.440 I could get into I'm not going to get into 312 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:27.039 all the details, but long story short, I think I 313 00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:31.920 interrupted their hunts, you know, because there was just prior 314 00:19:31.960 --> 00:19:36.240 to us seeing them, there was a deer president on 315 00:19:36.319 --> 00:19:38.920 the opposite side of the road, and then we see 316 00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:41.279 the first set of eyeshine that said, you know, kind 317 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:43.200 of like what the heck is that, you know? But 318 00:19:43.440 --> 00:19:47.880 you know, with that being said, there's been other incidents, 319 00:19:47.960 --> 00:19:51.240 you know, like by myself, you know, in the same 320 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:55.079 sexual woods. And just a year later, again there was 321 00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:59.079 a deer president and then boom, something very large, huge 322 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:03.279 and bipeople walk away just inside the tree line, you know, man, 323 00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:06.279 And I look back on those I said, Man, I'm interrupted. 324 00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:07.880 I got to leave these guys, you know, just stay 325 00:20:07.880 --> 00:20:10.680 out of here something, you know. Yeah, I don't know, 326 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:13.079 I mean, they haven't give me no sign like hey 327 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:15.799 you're okay, you didn't know, you know, I you know, 328 00:20:16.160 --> 00:20:20.119 It's like there was never I never experienced anything aggressive whatsoever, 329 00:20:20.359 --> 00:20:22.799 you know. But but I do look back on those 330 00:20:22.839 --> 00:20:26.359 two little situations. You know, I've had other little minor things, 331 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:30.079 you know, and hold in totally different areas where I've 332 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:32.759 had rocks thrown at me, you know, But in my 333 00:20:33.079 --> 00:20:36.480 research area, where my main accounter has happened, I always 334 00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:39.359 felt welcome there. You know. I was like, I've been 335 00:20:39.359 --> 00:20:42.480 out by myself deep in the woods numerous times, and 336 00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:44.680 people think I'm crazy for going out there by myself. 337 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:46.599 I said, well, I've gotten to know that land, I've 338 00:20:46.599 --> 00:20:49.480 gotten to know the territory. I've been out there long enough, 339 00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:52.880 I said, I've never had anything threatening to me, even 340 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:56.200 with the black bears. There's tons of black bears out there. 341 00:20:56.799 --> 00:20:59.400 I've seen black bears, some of them close, some of 342 00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:02.839 them distant. Now once, not once, have I ever had 343 00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:05.359 one get aggressive towards me. I mean, I woke up 344 00:21:05.359 --> 00:21:07.599 to one in my tent. They're not excuse me, It 345 00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:10.000 wasn't in my tent. It was just I was waking 346 00:21:10.039 --> 00:21:11.720 up and I heard it on the outside of my tent, 347 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:13.920 Like it was basically you know, how fair at tent 348 00:21:14.119 --> 00:21:19.960 is h and that. 349 00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:19.519 They might as well be sleeping with you and your 350 00:21:19.519 --> 00:21:21.519 sleeping bag if they're outside exactly. 351 00:21:21.960 --> 00:21:24.079 I mean I probably could if I saw if the 352 00:21:24.119 --> 00:21:25.839 wall of the tent was in there, I probably could 353 00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:30.839 have kissed the bear, you know, I mean, I mean, 354 00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:33.440 that's how close I've been to bears. But you know bears. 355 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:36.559 You know, we all know black bears. Black bears don't 356 00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:39.160 like to be bothered. They're skittish on the most partner shy, 357 00:21:40.519 --> 00:21:43.319 only a dangerous. If you put them in that position 358 00:21:43.400 --> 00:21:44.200 pretty much, you know. 359 00:21:44.680 --> 00:21:47.319 They'll give the signals. They'll give you signals too, like 360 00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:50.680 any bear will give you signals to back off, whether 361 00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:53.319 it's flatter that they make, the noise that they make, 362 00:21:53.480 --> 00:21:56.240 or or whether it's their posture. You know, they're gonna 363 00:21:56.279 --> 00:21:59.960 they're gonna tell you, you know, either back off or that, 364 00:22:00.279 --> 00:22:02.119 or they're just going to ignore you'll walk away. 365 00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:06.240 So yeah, the only animal that's ever threatened me was 366 00:22:06.279 --> 00:22:10.480 a deer. That was many years ago, when I was 367 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:14.240 on top of the parkway over here on Skyline Drive 368 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:18.240 and my daughter, she was little back then, she was 369 00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:20.640 just a little thing. She was in the back seat. 370 00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:23.839 And of course, you know, anyone that knows Skyline Drive 371 00:22:24.039 --> 00:22:26.960 knows you could see all kinds of wildlife up there, 372 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:30.160 and the deer. You could get pretty close to those 373 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:32.160 deer because they know they're not harmed up there and 374 00:22:32.200 --> 00:22:33.880 they know they're in a safe area. 375 00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:38.200 And right, and then the one day I was driving 376 00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:42.880 along and all of a sudden, these two big, giant, 377 00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:47.519 massive does come right out in front of me, and 378 00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:48.960 I was like I instantly stopped. 379 00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:51.839 I said, wow, that's a big one was a little 380 00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:54.799 bit smaller, but I was like wow. I was kind 381 00:22:54.799 --> 00:22:58.039 of mesmerized how big they were. And of course, right 382 00:22:58.079 --> 00:22:59.720 on the office side of the road, because those two 383 00:22:59.799 --> 00:23:01.880 do made it to the one side and they stopped 384 00:23:01.920 --> 00:23:07.440 because big Daddy was following right behind him. That he 385 00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:10.680 was a huge buck. And I couldn't believe it. I 386 00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:13.240 told I told Brianna, she was in the backseat. I said, 387 00:23:13.240 --> 00:23:16.359 to be honest, staying he don't move. I put the 388 00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:21.119 gear card gear and stepped out of the vehicle very slowly. 389 00:23:21.920 --> 00:23:23.440 I was like, this is awesome. I was like, I 390 00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:25.559 was just getting up this to see how close I 391 00:23:25.559 --> 00:23:29.279 can get and maybe get a picture or two. Well, 392 00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:31.279 I got out, I walked out in front of my 393 00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:34.200 vehicle and I'm literally in the middle of the road 394 00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:37.200 looking to my left those two big doughs that are 395 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:39.920 still standing there facing the tree line, but with her 396 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:42.440 necks and the heads looking back at me, or either 397 00:23:42.519 --> 00:23:44.039 that they were looking back at the buck that was 398 00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:47.960 waiting on them or chasing them. And I'm looking at him, 399 00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:51.640 and now he's a pretty looking buck. Now he uh, 400 00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:54.279 he stepped back a little bit. He was kind of 401 00:23:54.319 --> 00:23:57.559 like being cautious, doing what deer do, you know? But 402 00:23:58.119 --> 00:24:00.240 and I kept my eye on him. I kept every 403 00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:02.160 now and then I would glance at the two dogs, 404 00:24:02.359 --> 00:24:05.599 but on occasions I would look back at him, and 405 00:24:05.640 --> 00:24:08.640 all of a sudden, as soon as I seen that 406 00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:12.480 front leg like like kind of cap the ground like 407 00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:15.160 like he was like, give me that warning sign, I 408 00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:16.960 was like, oh, okay. 409 00:24:16.799 --> 00:24:20.200 Just stomped the ground with their one hoof. They'll lift 410 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:22.920 it up and they'll stomp it a couple of times 411 00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:25.160 just to let you know, and they'll duck their head 412 00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:27.759 down to let you know that they're getting into an 413 00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:28.839 aggressive posture. 414 00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:31.880 So that's exactly what he started doing, and I showed 415 00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:34.640 him respect. I backed up. I got back in my 416 00:24:34.680 --> 00:24:37.559 car after snapping a couple of quick pictures. I did 417 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:41.119 ad manage to get some pictures though, when I got 418 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:44.640 back in my vehicle and have a nice day, mister buck. 419 00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:53.160 You enjoy those dos, you know, get go do your thing, daddy. Yeah, 420 00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:55.079 so that that was a beautiful scene though, I mean 421 00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:57.240 that was kind of like, I don't know, you know, 422 00:24:57.759 --> 00:24:59.640 but that was different. That was up on the parkway, 423 00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:02.480 So are different a lot more easier to interact and 424 00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:06.240 wildly but there than you do elsewhere because down here, 425 00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:09.079 you know, in the valley, they know they're more threatened 426 00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:12.000 and they're going to be care cautions of man, you know. 427 00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:18.240 And Skyline Drive has had a lot of bigfoot encounters 428 00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:23.519 happen on it too. Oh yes, So I can't you know, 429 00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:26.200 count the number of times that I've had people tell me, 430 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:31.359 you know, that they have had encounters on Skyline Drive, 431 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:36.480 you know, and that that what you just described with 432 00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:40.960 the deer and everything. You know, that in itself lets 433 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:44.400 me know that you are the type of individual that 434 00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:48.079 when you go out into the wilderness, into the woods, 435 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:52.240 into the mountains, the forest, that you go with a 436 00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:56.279 respect and an understanding of how far you have the 437 00:25:56.359 --> 00:26:00.200 abilities to go, you know, and and you don't go 438 00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:03.960 there with the intent to pollute it or trash it 439 00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:07.440 out or anything like that. You go there respectfully. So 440 00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:12.039 that's why you've had the good encounters. Oh yeah, so, 441 00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:17.240 and that that goes through wildlife too. Wildlife is the 442 00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:21.000 same way, you know. You know, that's why you have 443 00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:24.920 the ability to run into, you know, so much wildlife 444 00:26:24.920 --> 00:26:27.240 when you go out and interact with them, because they 445 00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:31.000 they know you, they they sense you, you know, And 446 00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:34.200 it sounds strange, but it's true, it really is true. 447 00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:37.839 Well, you know, it's funny you say that because you know, 448 00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:43.759 I've camped numerous times by myself, and in one way, 449 00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:46.440 shape or forth, well mainly in one particular camp. Say, 450 00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:48.599 I've had it happen in other areas, but more so 451 00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:51.720 in the one particular area I camped in. I mean, 452 00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:53.839 I can be sitting there and enjoyman I'm talking about 453 00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:56.880 in the middle of the daytime. I mean, you know, yeah, 454 00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:00.440 you got the little you know, the rabbits come out 455 00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:03.920 and about that. Look you look over ten fifteen feet. Oh, 456 00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:07.880 there's rabbits just chilling right there by you. Then you 457 00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:10.519 look over here. It's a whole crap. The deer walking 458 00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:13.480 right next to you. What the hell's going out here? 459 00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:14.720 Am I in a fairy tale? 460 00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:14.960 You know? 461 00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:20.119 And that's because it's like it's just like having a pet, 462 00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:22.799 you know, like a dog or a cat. Those animals 463 00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:28.720 are gonna learn your emotions, your reactions, your your your demeanor. 464 00:27:28.759 --> 00:27:31.960 They're gonna sense, you know, the way you feel towards them, 465 00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:36.079 and that's when they're going to become more gentle towards you. 466 00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:39.720 It's the same right wildlife. Wildlife is the same way. 467 00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:43.559 But you have to understand too, they're called wildlife for 468 00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:46.880 a reason. They're not domesticated exactly. 469 00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:52.319 Yeah, where I believe the wildlife, the wild ones are 470 00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:55.559 more intelligent because they've experienced a lot more, you know, 471 00:27:56.279 --> 00:28:00.559 investigating all the domesticated ones and this kind of I 472 00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:02.319 guess in a way, you can kind of look at 473 00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:05.880 humans in this sense too. There's a lot of humans. 474 00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:09.559 A lot of people are ignorant, you know, when it 475 00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:12.200 comes to what to expect or how to look at things, 476 00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:14.599 because they're not out there like we are, you know, 477 00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:17.920 so you know, they're not out there to witnessing experience 478 00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:20.960 and understand how wild life act and behaving. You know, 479 00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:23.079 they don't have no basic understanding of what they might be. 480 00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:27.119 Thinking so exactly exactly, and you know, that's like my 481 00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:30.440 first encounter you know that I had. I you know, 482 00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:33.039 I told you a couple of times about it, and 483 00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:38.400 you know, speaking at your event too, you know, I've 484 00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:40.759 talked about it, you know, the first time. I Actually 485 00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:44.359 I always heard big Brother around. I always got glimpses, 486 00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:48.160 you know, of shadows moving between tree to tree, you know, 487 00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:51.640 but that kind of stuff growing up. But when I 488 00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:54.960 was twelve going on thirteen years old, I was out 489 00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:58.400 riding dirt bikes motorcycles with a couple buddies of mine 490 00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:02.880 in a field was located, you know, between a thick 491 00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:07.960 wooded area and my property where I lived and grew up. 492 00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:12.000 And we were about a mile or so from the house, 493 00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:15.920 and we were running around this field about the size 494 00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:18.880 of a football field with the dirt bikes and going around. 495 00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:22.039 And I had just got done going around three or 496 00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:25.599 four different times, and I went to park my motorcycle, 497 00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:29.240 you know, and put the kickstand down, turn the fuel off. 498 00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:31.920 And as I turned the fuel off, I looked down 499 00:29:31.960 --> 00:29:35.160 the tree line of the edge of the field that 500 00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:38.440 we were in and the path that we that cut 501 00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:45.640 into the field that we came from there stood big brother. Yes, 502 00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:50.519 he was reaching up into a tree and the branch 503 00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:52.960 that he was reaching up in was over nine feet 504 00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:57.480 off the ground. So and I remembered my father said. 505 00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:00.000 The first thing that came to mind was my teachings 506 00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:03.359 a child, you know, don't look them in the eye. 507 00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:06.400 So I begin to look down. And as I'm looking down, 508 00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:08.480 I look at my two friends and they're just standing 509 00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:12.920 there in shock and amazed that they that they're seeing it, 510 00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:16.960 you know. And I tapped one own buddy on his 511 00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:19.160 leg and I said, kneel down and look down at 512 00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:22.000 the ground, you know, And you know, they both did. 513 00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:25.759 And when we looked back up a minute later, we 514 00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:30.240 saw it walking off and going into the trees and disappearing, 515 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:36.440 you know. And it was a distance of oh, i'd 516 00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:41.240 say probably one hundred and twenty feet, you know, it 517 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:45.160 wasn't really that far. It was about a football field 518 00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:47.880 that we saw, you know, saw saw the thing from. 519 00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:51.960 And but you know, and and I got the feeling 520 00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:54.599 that it wasn't a mature one though I got the 521 00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:58.759 feeling later on in life that what I experienced was 522 00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:03.119 more like a juvenile playing with a little sibling in 523 00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:09.319 the right. So anyways, a week later, I take the 524 00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:13.279 dirt bike back out to another friend's place, and this 525 00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:16.759 is about two and a half miles three miles from 526 00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:20.279 where we lived, in a very wooded area with a 527 00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:24.079 small stream, you know, like a small river or creek, 528 00:31:24.119 --> 00:31:27.279 whatever you want to call it, cutting through it, and 529 00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:30.519 it was in gravel pits, and the gravel pits, you know, 530 00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:36.440 bordered the woodline and the streams, and I was riding 531 00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:39.799 my motorcycle through there, and like on a second time 532 00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:43.160 through on the path that came back out into the 533 00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:47.240 gravel pits, I entered the tree line and made a 534 00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:52.440 left and followed it around the circle. And the next 535 00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:56.519 thing I know, this branch came over and got between 536 00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:59.720 the spokes of my front wheel and I dumped the 537 00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:02.440 bike and I dumped it on top of me. So 538 00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:04.400 I still have the burn on my left leg and 539 00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:10.799 my cap muscle from the exhaust. But as I was 540 00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:13.359 laying there trying to get the bike off of my leg, 541 00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:19.759 I looked up and there was the biggest The only 542 00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:27.200 way I could describe it was it dwarfed Donold Schwarzenegger. 543 00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:32.039 I mean, oh, it made Donald Swarzenegger look like he 544 00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:36.440 was in kindergarten. This thing was was every bit of 545 00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:40.359 over nine feet tall. It had to be at least 546 00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:45.519 four feet across in the shoulders shoulders, and it was 547 00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:49.480 just standing there, you know, next to the tree that 548 00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:51.519 it threw the branch from, because you could see that 549 00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:56.559 the branch was ripped off the tree. And I looked 550 00:32:56.599 --> 00:33:00.640 over to the right because it kept on like doing 551 00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:03.559 the ducking and dodging, you know, hiding behind the tree, 552 00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:05.640 then coming back out and looking at me, and you know, 553 00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:09.680 that kind of activity. And to the right, and I 554 00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:14.680 saw a second one standing there, and just about twenty 555 00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:18.240 yards away from that second one was a doe. So 556 00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:24.480 obviously I interrupted their hunt by riding the motorcycle through there, 557 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:28.359 because back in those days, those bikes were loud. They cracked, 558 00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:31.920 and they popped a lot, you know. And I really 559 00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:34.359 do believe that he was just trying to teach me 560 00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:37.920 a lesson. You know, listen, you know, you interrupted our hunt, 561 00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:39.720 and now we got to try even harder to get 562 00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:44.039 our meal. So but I swear to God to this 563 00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:47.880 day he had a shittyat and grint on his face, like, haha, 564 00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:50.960 I taught you a lesson, you know what. I mean, right, 565 00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:55.680 he was just he was massive. I would not want 566 00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:59.279 to meet this guy in a dark alley because he 567 00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:00.599 was just that massive. 568 00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:01.240 You know. 569 00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:05.079 You take in fact that David made me a three 570 00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:08.519 D cast of it from my description of it, and 571 00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:12.360 to this day, this this figurine that he made me 572 00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:17.519 of my encounter gives me chills down my spine because 573 00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:19.960 it is everything that I described that it. 574 00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:24.559 Was nice, it was. It's funny because it's funny you 575 00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:26.960 mentioned that because I'm actually looking. I'm in the garage 576 00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:29.960 and on top of our gun safe. Well, I'm looking 577 00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:33.320 at what David gave me of a big foot figurine 578 00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:37.599 that he made, and uh, yeah, it's very very incredible. 579 00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:40.199 It's very fascinating. It's actually looks like it's walk. If 580 00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:42.760 he's saying it's holding a stick, he put the stick 581 00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:47.519 in the hand. Yeah, it's it's pretty awesome, you know. 582 00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:50.679 Just just even the facial features, with the way the 583 00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:53.840 nose was and the eye, the eye ridge was, the brow, 584 00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:58.239 I mean, everything everything was was to the tee, the 585 00:34:58.280 --> 00:34:59.960 hair placement, the muscle struck. 586 00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:00.280 Sure. 587 00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:04.239 I mean when I say massive, I mean this thing. 588 00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:11.000 If I wasn't taught about this being possibly being in 589 00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:16.199 the woods where I grew up, I don't think I 590 00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:19.320 would have handled it as easily as I did. I 591 00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:22.960 think my father actually helped me out with getting psychologically 592 00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:26.960 prepared to have in a run in with this being 593 00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:31.719 big brother, because he had one ends with him, so 594 00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:34.320 you know, he kind of figured, you know, and it 595 00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:38.760 kind of follows the family trait to to have encounters 596 00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:42.480 with them. And ever since those first two encounters, I 597 00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:48.079 have had other encounters with him. I remember doing a 598 00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:51.800 what we call a humblecia, a vision quest, and I 599 00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:55.679 had an elder with me, a very good friend of mine, 600 00:35:55.679 --> 00:36:01.159 a dear friend of mine. He since passed. He basically 601 00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:04.519 washed over me. And I was at the same creek 602 00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:10.519 or the small stream, and it was probably well, i'd say, 603 00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:14.119 about thirty feet across in the width of the river 604 00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:18.320 or the stream. And as I was doing my ceremony, 605 00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:21.199 something told me to look down at my feet, between 606 00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:24.039 my feet in the water. I was standing there in 607 00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:28.920 my bare feet, and I looked down and there was 608 00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:32.320 this black obsidian spearhead. 609 00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:34.920 Oh it was. 610 00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:40.519 It was clearly used for either spearing like game or 611 00:36:41.079 --> 00:36:45.760 large fish, right, and it was obsidian, so it was old. 612 00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:48.719 So I picked it up, and you know, and you know, 613 00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:52.039 they teach us whenever you're gifted something, you lay tobacco 614 00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:54.440 down and say thank you to the spirits that gifted 615 00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:57.960 it to you. And so I laid my tobacco down 616 00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:00.880 on the water, and I said prayer and I said 617 00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:04.039 thank you. And as I rose up from the water 618 00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:07.239 and from the edge, having the spearhead in my hand, 619 00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:10.360 I looked over to the tree line and the shades 620 00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:14.400 of the tree stood this silhouette of Bigfoot standing there 621 00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:21.199 watching me like he like he gifted me that for 622 00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:26.599 my ceremony. And you know, it's it's just that kind 623 00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:31.400 of interactions that I've had over time. They're more curious 624 00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:35.360 and friendly if you go in a good manner. And 625 00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:38.920 I'm a firm believer of that, you know, And to 626 00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:42.320 this day, I tell people, take your shoes off, take 627 00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:45.800 your socks off, curl your toes up into the grass 628 00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:48.360 and into the mud before you go into the woods, 629 00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:52.480 you know, and just make that connection to Mother Earth 630 00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:57.079 and getting a good mental state, and you'll probably have 631 00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:03.480 an encounter ninety percent of the time that very same night, sir. 632 00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:06.559 You know, it's it's I do believe that it has 633 00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:10.239 a lot with how we are intending to have an 634 00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:14.079 experience in the field. You know what I mean. 635 00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:18.159 Absolutely, I agree with you wholeheartedly because I feel that 636 00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:23.320 I really do because a couple of things you mentioned. 637 00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:25.880 It kind of brings a few things into buying. You know. 638 00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:31.719 It's backing up to what you related, what you mentioned 639 00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:39.119 about interrupting the hunt. You know, that's what I felt 640 00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:43.280 like what happened when we had our encounter in twenty 641 00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:46.039 fourteen where all six of us witnessed what we all 642 00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:50.320 thought however, because like I said, just prior to everything happening, 643 00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:53.480 there was a deer. The deer was like non chalotely 644 00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:56.800 walking right towards us. I was. We were walking a single, 645 00:38:57.239 --> 00:38:59.960 single fire line coming from the lake that's in your 646 00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:01.960 We were just headed back to camp. It was just 647 00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:05.599 after midnight, you know, and here's this deer walking right 648 00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:09.119 towards us, maybe again right before it turned off and 649 00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:11.199 walked further into the woods and dispard. It was only 650 00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:15.840 about ten feet away right as we continue walking right 651 00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:18.400 up across from there is where the first set of 652 00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:22.719 eyeshine is what got ever got my attention. But the 653 00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:28.760 whole counter happened just past there and to jump ahead 654 00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:33.320 a year later in the same section of woods, just 655 00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:36.199 just around the corner I was. I was camping out. 656 00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:40.280 It was during the hunting season of November of twenty fifteen. 657 00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:44.440 I'll never forget, you know, I was sitting there at camp. 658 00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:47.840 It was dead quiet. I was, you know, wide awake, 659 00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:51.039 didn't feel tired. You know. I had a camp fire, 660 00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:53.159 I had a fire going, had my bihgle there, had 661 00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:56.320 my shot run leaning against my vehicle, and I'm sitting 662 00:39:56.360 --> 00:40:00.400 there in my chair. Man I said, I don't know. 663 00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:03.679 I was just so wide awake. I just something told 664 00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:05.280 me just to get because it was dead quiet. I 665 00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:07.760 wasn't hearing nothing, you know, because you know, I like 666 00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:10.440 to sit and listen to you know, because most of 667 00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:12.320 the time you hear all kinds of wildlife around here. 668 00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:15.840 But this particular night, this time, it was quiet. I 669 00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:21.079 wasn't hearing nothing. So I decided, hey, I grabbed my spotlight, 670 00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:24.599 didn't turn it on. But from my camp I walked 671 00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:28.800 out to the forest road and walked out into total 672 00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:31.719 darkness and stood there in the middle of the road. 673 00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:35.360 And as I've told other people this, I do this 674 00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:38.280 kind of periodically or every so often. Every time I 675 00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:41.119 go on camping, I've done this by myself several times. 676 00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:43.800 Or if I have a group camp out, I do 677 00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:46.320 the same thing. I bring whoever wants to come with me. 678 00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:48.679 I said, come out to the road, just stand here, 679 00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:51.800 don't turn no lights on, just listen, look around and 680 00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:52.840 again listen. 681 00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:57.639 Yep, and they'll shadow they'll shadow you, they'll pace you, 682 00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:02.239 you know, when you're by yourself too. When they do that, 683 00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:05.480 they're more curious than anything. They're trying to learn more 684 00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:09.280 about you and to see how you react towards them, 685 00:41:10.599 --> 00:41:13.800 you know, and and you know we you know, some 686 00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:17.239 people can call them, you know, dumb animals, you know, 687 00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:19.960 and stuff like that all they want. But you know, 688 00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:22.920 I can I can tell you from my family history 689 00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:29.199 of interacting with them and my own history that they 690 00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:37.320 have a way of keeping the family unit together. You 691 00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:43.199 very seldom will come across one that is raising its 692 00:41:43.320 --> 00:41:47.960 young by itself. Usually if that happens, then the other 693 00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:58.000 parenting being would be probably deceased from natural causes or 694 00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:01.840 other you know, wildlife like as these or whatnot. You know, 695 00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:05.920 mountain lions, you know, we all we all know what's 696 00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:08.079 out there, you know. And then there's more than that 697 00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:14.119 out there. But you know, usually when they are in 698 00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:18.960 family units and there's a father and a mother and siblings, 699 00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:25.239 you know, children, they stay together. They don't separate very much, 700 00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:30.119 including including during the hunt, unless the mother stays with 701 00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:34.519 a young one, like an infant sized one. Yeah, I've 702 00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:38.599 always seen them together, I've always and usually when you 703 00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:42.920 see one that's uh, that's full grown and they're alone, 704 00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:48.119 that's because the other one that they were, you know, 705 00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:55.960 basically having a you know, a family unit with kind 706 00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:58.199 of like a husband or wife, you know, one of 707 00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:01.920 them passed away. They usually tend to stay by themselves. 708 00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:06.119 They never pick up another mate, they really And that's 709 00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:11.119 that's one thing that I've noticed that they are that 710 00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:15.599 that caring and that emotionally connected to their family unit, 711 00:43:16.719 --> 00:43:20.519 which is surprising to me because you know, you you 712 00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:23.840 hear all these you know, encounters of these these hunters 713 00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:26.320 out there in the woods having all these bad encounters 714 00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:29.119 and all that, and how there's usually two or three 715 00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:32.960 you know that that are are flanking them and growling 716 00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:36.360 and you know, and throwing rocks and branches and stuff. 717 00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:43.079 You know, if if if people actually saw through my 718 00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:48.599 eyes what I experienced growing up they would see it 719 00:43:48.639 --> 00:43:52.480 from a whole different light. Right now, that's not to 720 00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:55.320 say that, you know, there aren't the occasional ones out 721 00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:59.199 there that are real badasses that that don't want any 722 00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:02.559 humans around them, you know, because of something that they 723 00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:07.960 have encountered, which is probably related to the whole hunting 724 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:11.760 thing with the rifles and stuff, because you hear about, 725 00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:15.679 you know, some of these hunters taking potshots at him 726 00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:18.800 and stuff, and then others that look down the scope 727 00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:21.480 of their rifle and they see the face of it 728 00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:24.320 and say, well, look too human to pull the trigger. 729 00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:25.920 Right, I've heard that. 730 00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:29.920 Yeah, yeah, I know of one Native brother of mine, 731 00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:34.000 a distant friend of mine, I think he's since past 732 00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:40.440 out in Oklahoma, he had an encounter and he told 733 00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:42.159 me that, you know, he was out there and he 734 00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:45.079 was hunting at his thirty thirty with him, and he 735 00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:48.199 was out there hunting him and his uncle, and he 736 00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:53.119 was probably twenty some years old at the time, twenty 737 00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:58.400 one twenty two, and basically he walked up upon when 738 00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:01.760 one once stopped right in front of him, like not 739 00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:05.519 even twenty feet away, and he raised, he said, he 740 00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:09.519 raised his thirty thirty to shoot at it, and he 741 00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:15.199 remembers squeezing the trigger and you know, and lever actioning 742 00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:19.400 the thirty thirty until he was out of rounds. But 743 00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:25.239 when he got done and he looked, you know, in 744 00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:28.880 the direction, the bigfoot was gone from being in front 745 00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:32.519 of him, and all of the shells from his thirty 746 00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:36.480 thirty were laying on the ground at his feet on fired. 747 00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:43.960 He never he never pulled the trigger, and he ejected 748 00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:46.960 every shell on the ground thinking that he was pulling 749 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:52.000 the trigger. Right, Does that mean that they can manipulate 750 00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:55.440 your mind or mind speak to you. I don't know. 751 00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:59.360 Maybe it does, but you know, we have so much 752 00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:03.639 we need the learn. You know that, you know I 753 00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:06.079 I can only say that when you're when you have 754 00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:09.000 an encounter with them, try to have it in a 755 00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:12.559 good way. Try to stay calm, don't don't show fear, 756 00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:16.519 don't show aggression, show them that you're humble by not 757 00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:20.599 looking them directly in the eye, you know, but yet 758 00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:24.960 keeping a track of where they're at. You know, everybody 759 00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:28.039 has this thing about gifting too, Daniel, that you know, 760 00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:31.000 gifting is a bad thing and all that, Well, it 761 00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:35.760 is bad when you're gifting them stuff like food or 762 00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:41.920 you know, donuts, or you know, yeah, you know, I 763 00:46:41.960 --> 00:46:49.679 mean you're basically polluting them, you know, and they're not 764 00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:52.840 gonna want that. You know what I did. I did 765 00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:57.320 this for well, the second ecb Ro event that I 766 00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:04.280 went to that you were in charge of. I made 767 00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:07.400 these bigfoot dolls out of buckskin and I packed them 768 00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:09.639 with sweet grass and sage and. 769 00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:11.360 Cedar, and oh yeah. 770 00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:14.920 They were like, I don't know, probably like six seven 771 00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:18.199 inches big, you know, in height, and they were just 772 00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:21.840 you know, hands hand stitched with sin you and and 773 00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:24.559 all that. And I gave it to a couple of 774 00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:28.239 the Bigfoot investigators that were there at the time, and 775 00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:31.159 you know, I told them, I said, take this out 776 00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:33.239 with you and if you have an interaction with them 777 00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:36.119 or a gifting point, gift that and see what happens. 778 00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:40.480 So and one of them got back to me and 779 00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:43.079 that they had the best night that they ever had 780 00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:48.320 with that as a gift. And you know, does does 781 00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:50.159 that mean that they sense that? 782 00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:50.760 You know? 783 00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:54.679 Maybe it does. Maybe it makes them more sensitive to 784 00:47:55.840 --> 00:48:02.039 the the almost human emotion, you know, and the way 785 00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:05.559 of feeling out people, you know, like dogs do with owners, 786 00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:09.480 you know, and and strangers, you know, right, a dog 787 00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:12.119 can always tell a good person from a bad person, 788 00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:16.639 you know. Yeah, maybe it's the same instinct. I don't know. 789 00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:20.719 Well, it's I kind of look at it as like 790 00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:22.920 even some of us, some of us, we have the 791 00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:25.920 intuition we have that we meet new people for the 792 00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:29.599 first time, you know. Maybe, I mean it might be 793 00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:31.639 a little bit different with us, but you know, it's 794 00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:34.679 like once you meet somebody, it start hearing them talk, 795 00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:38.920 as they present themselves in their whatever how they present themselves. 796 00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:43.280 We kind of feel them out, you know. But then again, 797 00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:46.039 I feel like, yeah, it's like a lot of people 798 00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:50.320 believe that, you know, big foot sasquatch, they know an 799 00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:55.239 individual's intent, their intentions or there they possibly know their heart, 800 00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:58.039 They feel them out, you know, and they may have 801 00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:01.360 that natural sense like like you mentioned, like some animals 802 00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:01.880 do you know. 803 00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:05.639 Yeah, you know, I can't. I can't. I can't count 804 00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:09.039 the number of times I've had people tell me that, Oh, 805 00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:11.400 at one time, I saw a big foot standing there, 806 00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:13.360 and the next thing I know, I saw a fox 807 00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:16.519 walking forward to me, or I saw a tree stump 808 00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:19.800 you know that where the bigfoot was standing, or you know, 809 00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:21.960 do they have a special ability. 810 00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:24.679 I don't. 811 00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:27.960 I honestly, I don't know. I mean, you hear about 812 00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:33.199 the whole infrasound thing making people sick, you know, I 813 00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:35.719 know for fact that you know, there's a couple of 814 00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:39.400 things that they do. Do I've come across structures and 815 00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:44.239 stuff like you have. I've I've witnessed, you know, them 816 00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:47.079 putting a hand on the side of a rock and 817 00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:51.199 seeing the the oil or grease from the hand being 818 00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:55.480 imprinted on the rock and left behind like it's a scent, 819 00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:59.480 you know, like they're leaving their scent on something. Oh yeah, 820 00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:03.199 you know they used they use trees like rubbing posts 821 00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:06.119 like bears do. Black bears do it all the time. 822 00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:06.920 You know. 823 00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:10.199 The only difference is they're rubbing post is going to 824 00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:12.360 be eight nine feet in the air, whereas a black 825 00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:14.119 bear is going to be three or four feet off 826 00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:18.440 the ground right right. But you know, it's you know, 827 00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:23.800 there's just there's so many questions that even I have, you. 828 00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:29.559 Know, absolutely, so a couple of things you've been talking 829 00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:32.119 about kind of I mean, I guess kind of covers 830 00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:34.480 a couple of questions I had written down was as 831 00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:37.480 far as when we come through the woods, do they 832 00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:40.079 welcome us? You know, and I guess that has a 833 00:50:40.079 --> 00:50:41.760 lot to do with how they feel towards us. 834 00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:45.719 You know, it's an individual, and how you feel towards 835 00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:47.679 them too, right. 836 00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:51.039 And then also the one of the other questions I 837 00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:53.679 had written down with should we fear them if we 838 00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:57.280 encounter them? I mean, because I mean I've heard just 839 00:50:57.360 --> 00:51:01.519 here in Virginia alone. I mean I've had you know, 840 00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:05.239 friends of mine, are real good friends of mine, former 841 00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:10.920 co workers that shared stories with me from Virginia. Now. 842 00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:16.119 One individual, he lives out in Singers Glen, you know, 843 00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:17.800 and he grew up he spent a lot of time 844 00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:21.159 on the woods, you know, and he's had uh, he's 845 00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:25.440 seen mountain lions when he was younger. He's I don't 846 00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:27.880 know how old you are, William, but I know he's 847 00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:30.280 in his sixth he's probably close to seventy by now. 848 00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:35.159 But he told me some stories. Now, he believes there's 849 00:51:35.199 --> 00:51:37.920 something out there. He's a skeptic, but at the same time, 850 00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:42.480 he's a healthy skeptic. He doesn't he doesn't dismiss anything, right. 851 00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:46.199 But you know, and there are people too that that 852 00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:48.719 are going to be skeptics their whole lives because they 853 00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:53.559 don't have that encounter they they they just go about 854 00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:56.280 their their business in the in the woods and the 855 00:51:56.280 --> 00:51:59.159 mountains and stuff, you know, whatever they're doing at the time, 856 00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:03.000 and not even thinking or considering that there's the possibility 857 00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:06.360 of something like that being one hundred yards from them 858 00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:09.079 or fifty feet from them, you know. I mean, it's 859 00:52:10.039 --> 00:52:12.920 it's just the way people are are are raised. You know, 860 00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:16.679 people question, you know, And that's the big thing I 861 00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:20.800 always say with my podcast is you know, I say 862 00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:26.840 question everything you know, right, you have to, you literally 863 00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:32.239 have to. We're in we're in the days of technology 864 00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:37.119 right now where people are using drones and and sophisticated 865 00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:41.400 cameras and you know, and all that and uh sounding 866 00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:45.159 equipment and all that, and you know, and they're still 867 00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:48.840 coming out of the woods without without that much proof. 868 00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:52.800 Some of them are and some most of them aren't. Right, 869 00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:57.079 you know, if you're going to have your encounter, first off, 870 00:52:57.199 --> 00:53:00.880 the way we as indigenous people look at it is 871 00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:05.880 it's a gift. If they gift you with having an 872 00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:10.960 encounter with them, then you did something right that week 873 00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:15.320 in your life and right right gifted that encounter. 874 00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:19.000 That's what I like to believe because I've heard that before. 875 00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:21.719 Yeah, Yeah, otherwise you're going to have people not have 876 00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:24.119 encounters their whole lives that live in the woods all 877 00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:24.639 the time. 878 00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:25.840 Right. 879 00:53:26.199 --> 00:53:28.199 It just depends, it really does. 880 00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:32.280 Because they Yeah, because you know, you get people I've 881 00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:34.760 heard people, you know, responding to a certain post in 882 00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:38.920 the past. Well, you know, I've been researching and investigating. 883 00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:41.320 I've been in the woods for over fifty something years, 884 00:53:41.360 --> 00:53:44.239 sixty years, and you know, some of these people might 885 00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:46.800 have out all though here. They might have only had 886 00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:50.719 one sighting, you know, or some kind of encounter, you know. 887 00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:53.480 So you know, with that being said, I mean, you 888 00:53:53.519 --> 00:53:56.840 can't you know, there's people that there's a lot of newbies, 889 00:53:56.920 --> 00:53:58.639 a lot of new people going out stepping out in 890 00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:02.360 the field now, you know, and trying to pay more attention, 891 00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:05.880 you know, and they haven't experienced. 892 00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:09.559 Nothing yet, and then they got to discern the difference 893 00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:13.639 between a hoax and and having a real encounter. 894 00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:20.679 You have several several I can't even count the number 895 00:54:20.679 --> 00:54:23.679 of times when when I see people post things on 896 00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:28.960 on Facebook or Instagram or or you know, even YouTube 897 00:54:29.039 --> 00:54:32.800 some of the video channels that are just ridiculously insane 898 00:54:33.239 --> 00:54:35.519 to think that they could actually pass that off as 899 00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:41.400 a bigfoot encounter or a dog man encounter. Right, it's 900 00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:44.079 utterly absurd to think, you know that they could do that. 901 00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:49.039 You know, that's that's They're called a blob squatch for 902 00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:54.519 a reason. There hasn't been a definitive other than the 903 00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:59.960 the the Gimblin film and Roger Patterson film from ninete 904 00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:04.840 teen sixty eight. You know, there hasn't been a definitive 905 00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:09.320 type of of evidence presented in a photograph or a video. 906 00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:15.119 Maybe the Peterson one in the early nineties. I believe 907 00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:22.599 it was where the the ranger. I guess he was 908 00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:27.400 a forest ranger. I think you've talked to him before, 909 00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:30.159 his son, before Peterson. 910 00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:34.440 Oh no, I'm sorry, I'm having a brain fart. Yeah, 911 00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:38.039 I know who you're talking about. It's not Peterson, it's yeah, 912 00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:44.280 his son was not Patterson. It was oh Man, his son. 913 00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:49.199 His son put out a book, a pretty detailed book. 914 00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:53.679 A lot of it covers his father's research and evidence. 915 00:55:55.039 --> 00:55:58.480 Yeah, you know, and you know, other than those two 916 00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:03.800 original videos, I don't I don't think anybody's really presented 917 00:56:03.880 --> 00:56:08.360 anything really as far as evidence, solid evidence. And then 918 00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:12.000 then you got these these TV shows that go out 919 00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:15.039 there and I'm not gonna name them. We all know, 920 00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:21.360 you know, entertainment is entertainment, so they're gonna they're gonna 921 00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:23.559 dress it up and make it more than what it is, 922 00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:29.119 no matter what. But I think that takes away from 923 00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:35.960 the authenticity of people having actual encounters. It's almost like, 924 00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:40.880 you know, the more hoaxing that they're doing, the less 925 00:56:41.039 --> 00:56:46.239 chance that people are gonna have of actually having legitimate encounters, 926 00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:50.159 right you know, it's to me, it's it's sad to 927 00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:52.480 think that people will try to hoax something like that 928 00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:54.239 to get their five minutes of fame. 929 00:56:54.719 --> 00:56:58.239 Exactly, and sadly it's a lot of that going on 930 00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:02.719 right now. It's it's a shame that people are willing 931 00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:07.639 to take that risk to you know, if they if 932 00:57:07.679 --> 00:57:10.159 they have any I don't even know how to word 933 00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:13.280 this properly, but there's people out there that want to 934 00:57:13.320 --> 00:57:16.400 be put out there so bad that they're willing to 935 00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:22.880 you know, I don't know, like the throwout full of 936 00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:26.280 me because AI we all were most of us are 937 00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:29.519 familiar with AI technology and what's being presented out there. 938 00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:34.159 Then again, there's old, old images that a lot of us, 939 00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:36.760 we've been in on social media for a long time. 940 00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:39.239 A lot of this information, a lot of these images 941 00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:43.159 that we've seen that were put out from somebody at 942 00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:46.400 one point in time. Well, the newbies are out there 943 00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:49.880 in these Bigfoot groups. I'll even make mention of them. 944 00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:55.239 There's several groups under the same name, but Bigfoot believers. 945 00:57:55.559 --> 00:58:01.760 There's all these I'm gonna call him idiots, but they're 946 00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:06.280 idiots out there that are using old images that came 947 00:58:06.519 --> 00:58:10.440 or claimed from somebody else many years before or earlier. 948 00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:14.079 They were saying, hey, this came about, I got this 949 00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:17.480 on my camera like two weeks ago or last month. 950 00:58:18.199 --> 00:58:22.320 And there's people that don't follow enough of the social 951 00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:25.519 media network or what's being presented over the years, and 952 00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:26.920 a lot of them are seeing this stuff for the 953 00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:30.320 first time and jumping on board with this. Are you serious, 954 00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:33.360 you're lying about this? You know I've seen him one 955 00:58:33.400 --> 00:58:36.159 recently from I don't know, for those who know mister 956 00:58:36.239 --> 00:58:39.679 Lee Woods from North Carolina. Now, I don't have no 957 00:58:39.719 --> 00:58:42.639 connection with him no more. He you know, he blocked 958 00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:45.360 me because you know he is what he is, right, 959 00:58:45.480 --> 00:58:48.480 But if he is hoaxing, oh well that's his that's 960 00:58:48.480 --> 00:58:50.639 his problem. I'm not going to call him out. I 961 00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:52.760 used to call people out all the time. But I 962 00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:54.000 gave that a rest, you. 963 00:58:53.960 --> 00:58:57.559 Know, but exactly, yeah, And I mean I had a 964 00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:02.679 run in with with one that was actually a photograph 965 00:59:02.760 --> 00:59:07.519 of of a of a track that a dear friend 966 00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:10.159 of mine took when they were walking out in the 967 00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:18.159 woods here in Virginia. And I saw the original photo, okay, 968 00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:22.840 And you know it was a big wolf track that 969 00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:26.400 they found along a river's edge, you know, the creek edge. 970 00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:32.480 They they took a picture of it, and the next thing, 971 00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:35.679 I know, a month or two later, after they posted 972 00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:39.719 it online, you know, somebody picked it up and ran 973 00:59:39.800 --> 00:59:42.159 with it as a dog man footprint. You know. 974 00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:43.360 Oh my gosh. 975 00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:46.280 I called him out on it, you know, I said, listen, 976 00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:49.039 I said, I have proof that that picture was taken 977 00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:51.800 by such and such person at such and such time, 978 00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:56.119 in such and such place. And you know you have 979 00:59:56.320 --> 01:00:00.840 no right too to claim that that is a dog 980 01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:05.400 man footprint, you know, you know. And it happens all 981 01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:08.760 the time, Daniel, it does, and it makes it harder 982 01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:11.760 for the ones that are out there in the field 983 01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:18.159 that are trying their damnedest to research and investigate every 984 01:00:18.199 --> 01:00:25.519 way possible legitimately wise to prove the existence of these cryptids, right, so, 985 01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:31.159 and you know they're finding species every day, oh yeah, 986 01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:36.199 you know every day, especially the insect world that is new, 987 01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:41.599 you know, So you know, why make it harder to 988 01:00:43.360 --> 01:00:47.360 verify the existence of a cryptid creature, whether it's the 989 01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:53.519 dog man, the Bigfoot, the yetty, the the lizard man. 990 01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:58.440 You know, there's even stories of cat people being out there. 991 01:00:58.480 --> 01:00:58.679 You know. 992 01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:02.639 I had a truck driver tell me one time while 993 01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:05.440 I was at work. He was delivering to a NAPA 994 01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:11.159 truck to a NAPA store in Virginia, and I was 995 01:01:11.239 --> 01:01:14.199 running the store next door. In the morning, I opened 996 01:01:14.199 --> 01:01:17.599 it up, and this was about five or five point 997 01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:21.159 thirty in the morning, and he told me that he 998 01:01:21.320 --> 01:01:24.199 almost wrecked his truck on the way here, on the 999 01:01:24.239 --> 01:01:28.400 way getting to the store where I was located, because 1000 01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:31.000 a cat person jumped out in front of his rig 1001 01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:33.679 while he was driving down one of the side roads 1002 01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:37.199 and his headlights hit it, and it stood right in 1003 01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:39.599 front of him and looked at him. And the head 1004 01:01:39.800 --> 01:01:43.599 of the thing was like the shoulders of it was 1005 01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:46.360 above the hood of the Kenworth and it was a 1006 01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:49.639 kW that he was driving. And those are right, they 1007 01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:51.199 are a big rig you know. 1008 01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:53.400 Oh yeah, I'm very familiar with him. I used to 1009 01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:55.360 work on a truck stop servo station. 1010 01:01:55.519 --> 01:01:59.320 Yeah, you know, I mean to be able to see 1011 01:01:59.840 --> 01:02:02.719 the face and the shoulders of something that's that tall, 1012 01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:04.880 you know, And it was he said, it was a feeline, 1013 01:02:05.280 --> 01:02:08.039 you know. And he said, he said, Billy says, I'm 1014 01:02:08.119 --> 01:02:10.159 not blind. You He goes, it scared the ship out 1015 01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:12.519 of me. He says, I almost put that eighteen wheeler 1016 01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:13.599 in the ditch. 1017 01:02:14.599 --> 01:02:14.920 Wow. 1018 01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:19.119 Well, you know, and and that was right. And I 1019 01:02:19.159 --> 01:02:21.320 hate to say it, but I guess I'll put it 1020 01:02:21.360 --> 01:02:25.599 out there. That was around the Culpepper area of Virginia. 1021 01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:29.920 Oh wow, okay, wow. 1022 01:02:29.639 --> 01:02:33.000 So you know, I'm just gonna you know, I just 1023 01:02:33.960 --> 01:02:36.239 you know, well, which. 1024 01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:38.199 That's not far fetched. There's a lot of world in there. 1025 01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:41.079 Something people if for those who don't know that area, 1026 01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:43.559 which I used to deliver up that area quite often 1027 01:02:43.679 --> 01:02:47.119 from at my previous job, because I was all over 1028 01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:49.840 the state of Virginia, West Virginia and you name it, 1029 01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:53.639 I was there. But yeah, Culpeper built in the whole 1030 01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:56.440 that whole general area. There's a lot of woods up 1031 01:02:56.480 --> 01:03:01.639 there that it's not occupied or not pop related. But 1032 01:03:01.679 --> 01:03:04.079 then again, it depends on what area you're in. But yeah, 1033 01:03:04.079 --> 01:03:07.239 a lot of people don't realize how populated a forest 1034 01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:10.800 that we have here right here in Virginia. People underestumeate 1035 01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:11.920 what we have here going on. 1036 01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:15.719 Hell, you and I could probably walk off, maybe a 1037 01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:18.599 half a mile into the woods and not come out 1038 01:03:18.639 --> 01:03:20.760 of the woodline until we get on the other side 1039 01:03:20.760 --> 01:03:21.800 by the Ohio River. 1040 01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:25.719 Oh my gosh, Well right in my backyard here where 1041 01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:28.119 I live in the Shanandoah Valley. I live here in 1042 01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:31.320 Adjustin County, in the town of Camora. But right where 1043 01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:34.119 I live, the Blue Ridge Mountains is in my backyard. 1044 01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:36.960 So that's yeah. If they if they don't know the 1045 01:03:36.960 --> 01:03:42.039 Blue Ridge Mountains, they better start doing some research. Yeah, exactly, exactly, 1046 01:03:43.559 --> 01:03:46.239 So yeah, because I know right where you know, I 1047 01:03:46.239 --> 01:03:48.079 don't know exactly where you live. I know the general 1048 01:03:48.119 --> 01:03:50.719 area where you live. The same thing up your way, 1049 01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:54.079 you know, you've got nothing but woods and mountains up 1050 01:03:54.079 --> 01:03:54.400 your way. 1051 01:03:55.079 --> 01:03:59.239 So and the Shanadoah River too, so you know, oh, 1052 01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:02.840 we all know the kind of the kind of you know, 1053 01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:05.079 they they take the river ways and they take the 1054 01:04:05.119 --> 01:04:09.320 power lines and the railroad tracks to to travel at night, 1055 01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:13.360 because that's the best way to not get seen and 1056 01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:17.920 the easiest way to travel right well, unless you're out 1057 01:04:17.960 --> 01:04:20.800 in the middle of nowhere. You know, it's been my 1058 01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:24.760 experience that they stick to the ridge lines, you know, 1059 01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:27.280 and avoid the haulers, you know. 1060 01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:37.239 So oh absolutely so kind of somewhat switching gears. There 1061 01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:38.880 is a couple of other questions. I know, they've kind 1062 01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:42.760 of been popping up. There are questions that were being 1063 01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:48.119 asked from my couple of previous guests after I uploaded 1064 01:04:48.159 --> 01:04:51.920 to share the podcast around. Uh, these are kind of 1065 01:04:51.960 --> 01:04:54.599 basic questions. But again, I kind of want to switch 1066 01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:59.119 switch gears a little bit here. Uh, you know, and 1067 01:04:59.159 --> 01:05:07.440 given this time a year talk about hibernation. Uh, people 1068 01:05:07.519 --> 01:05:11.440 have asked do big foot hibernating? You know, and then 1069 01:05:13.079 --> 01:05:15.239 I haven't. I mean I kind of have my sense 1070 01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:17.920 on that because you know, looking at I don't know 1071 01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:20.159 how you know, I don't know how you kind of 1072 01:05:20.199 --> 01:05:23.840 feel on this. In a way, I compare Bigfoot. I 1073 01:05:23.880 --> 01:05:27.039 personally kind of compare Bigfoot to a lot of black 1074 01:05:27.079 --> 01:05:31.960 bear behavior because I mean people think, yeah, bears hibernating, Well, 1075 01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:35.320 not only do the case yeah, Because I mean I've 1076 01:05:35.320 --> 01:05:37.800 been out in the National Forest. I've been out in 1077 01:05:37.800 --> 01:05:41.239 the forest and seeing bear tracks in the snow, and 1078 01:05:41.320 --> 01:05:43.599 then they get out, they move around because they got 1079 01:05:43.639 --> 01:05:46.039 to eat, you know. But because you know, as you know, 1080 01:05:46.239 --> 01:05:50.440 are on the most part, our winters are pretty mild here. Yeah, 1081 01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:53.599 but we do get some good healthy snows every now 1082 01:05:53.639 --> 01:05:57.679 and then. So but but yeah, but what's your take 1083 01:05:57.719 --> 01:05:59.320 on that. I mean, do you believe that big foot 1084 01:05:59.360 --> 01:06:02.239 hibernates settle down or uh? 1085 01:06:02.239 --> 01:06:05.480 Well, the best, the best way I can describe it 1086 01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:11.039 is they're gonna be They're gonna be so in tuned 1087 01:06:11.119 --> 01:06:15.199 with the the way the the the environment is and 1088 01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:18.840 the seasonal changes that they're more than likely gonna try 1089 01:06:18.880 --> 01:06:24.239 and migrate to a better and a better hunting ground. Yeah, 1090 01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:28.480 they're gonna follow the game. They're gonna they're gonna go 1091 01:06:28.559 --> 01:06:32.039 where the water is the cleanest. You know. It's like 1092 01:06:32.119 --> 01:06:34.679 I always say, if you want to, if you're camping 1093 01:06:34.760 --> 01:06:37.760 and you have no water supply, always check to see 1094 01:06:37.800 --> 01:06:41.199 where the birds nest, because the birds are gonna nest 1095 01:06:41.760 --> 01:06:46.719 near the water source. You know, birds can't survive without water, 1096 01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:51.639 you know, and you know neither can can bigfoot or 1097 01:06:51.679 --> 01:06:54.119 dog men or any other cryptid out there for that matter. 1098 01:06:54.199 --> 01:06:59.440 That's living in the wild. I believe that they utilize 1099 01:06:59.480 --> 01:07:05.840 caves stems. The flesh and blood ones utilize cave systems. 1100 01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:13.559 I think that they are very very adept at environmental camouflage. Yeah, 1101 01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:17.960 you know, some people say that they can make themselves 1102 01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:23.880 blip in and out. I tend to not really put 1103 01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:27.039 too much faith in that. I think it's more of 1104 01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:32.679 a of just you know, adrenaline and you know, just 1105 01:07:33.159 --> 01:07:36.000 people seeing what they want to see, you know, and 1106 01:07:36.159 --> 01:07:42.199 try somehow rationalize what they've experienced. That's not to say 1107 01:07:42.199 --> 01:07:44.599 that some of them don't have techniques that you that 1108 01:07:44.639 --> 01:07:48.559 would blow your mind away, making them seem like they 1109 01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:53.599 disappeared and walking behind a tree and then boom they're gone. 1110 01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:59.400 But yeah, I mean there's a possibility they can hibernate. 1111 01:07:59.480 --> 01:08:01.639 But I think that they would be like any any 1112 01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:05.719 animal in the wildlife that when they have the opportunity 1113 01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:09.239 to get out and move around, they're going to right, 1114 01:08:10.679 --> 01:08:14.559 They're gonna they're gonna be, you know, unless they're in 1115 01:08:14.599 --> 01:08:19.359 a deep hibernation state where it's almost like a stasis 1116 01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:25.399 way of sleeping. I would say that they probably don't hibernate. 1117 01:08:25.439 --> 01:08:29.279 I would say that they probably go to where the 1118 01:08:29.319 --> 01:08:32.279 game is and where the weather is better and the 1119 01:08:32.399 --> 01:08:36.640 environment is more pleasurable to their way of life living 1120 01:08:36.680 --> 01:08:37.279 in the wild. 1121 01:08:38.279 --> 01:08:41.119 Absolutely, and I agree. 1122 01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:43.479 You know, that's just my theory. So that and a 1123 01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:46.039 dollar might get you a cup of coffee. 1124 01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:50.439 Right, But see, I agree wholeheartedly because you know, to me, 1125 01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:53.720 what makes sense is, you know, if they are feeding 1126 01:08:53.760 --> 01:08:58.479 off the prey, which for example, dear uh in whatever 1127 01:08:58.640 --> 01:09:02.640 other various wildlife are the deer? We have to ask 1128 01:09:02.680 --> 01:09:06.039 ourselves or anybody should ask us, you know, if depending 1129 01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:10.239 on the location or the state or the area you 1130 01:09:10.399 --> 01:09:14.479 research or explorer or whatever whatever is nearby, do the 1131 01:09:14.520 --> 01:09:17.800 deer disappear? Do the deer move along? Do the deer 1132 01:09:17.840 --> 01:09:20.239 move out of state? Do they travel? Do they migrate? 1133 01:09:21.239 --> 01:09:25.640 My my only my theory was if if the predators 1134 01:09:25.880 --> 01:09:30.239 are going to hibernate, I mean, if to pray, if 1135 01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:32.720 their food source is moving, then they would only make 1136 01:09:32.760 --> 01:09:34.760 sense that they would have to move with the with 1137 01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:36.880 their food source, you know, exactly. 1138 01:09:37.039 --> 01:09:37.439 Yeah. 1139 01:09:37.479 --> 01:09:40.079 And you know the other thing to consider too though, 1140 01:09:40.239 --> 01:09:44.199 is you know, are they going to want to stick 1141 01:09:44.239 --> 01:09:49.119 around in a climate that is cold and snow ridden? Yes, 1142 01:09:49.199 --> 01:09:53.600 they're built for it. They're most definitely built for survival 1143 01:09:54.600 --> 01:09:57.600 right during survival of the fittest, because they are the 1144 01:09:57.640 --> 01:10:01.840 fittest in the woods. They are the keepers of the woods. 1145 01:10:03.640 --> 01:10:06.920 So yeah, they they can adapt to any type of climate, 1146 01:10:07.439 --> 01:10:12.520 I would imagine. So I've seen them in in every aspect. 1147 01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:17.399 I have more interactions with them in the springtime and 1148 01:10:17.479 --> 01:10:19.640 the summer than I do in the in the winter. 1149 01:10:21.359 --> 01:10:25.279 But at the same time, I've had other encounters in 1150 01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:28.319 the wintertime with other cryptids that you know, like the 1151 01:10:28.399 --> 01:10:33.600 dog man and other real wild life that we know 1152 01:10:33.720 --> 01:10:37.199 is out there, like wolves and stuff in the wintertime 1153 01:10:37.960 --> 01:10:40.680 that are out there foraging for food or looking or 1154 01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:45.479 hunting for food anyway they can, you know, which includes 1155 01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:51.159 human waste and human garbage. So any any bear that 1156 01:10:51.199 --> 01:10:55.199 comes out of out of hibernation or you know, semi 1157 01:10:55.279 --> 01:10:58.000 hibernation is gonna first thing they're gonna do is they're 1158 01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:01.039 gonna want to eat, you know, So they're gonna they're 1159 01:11:01.079 --> 01:11:03.319 gonna go where it's easiest to find the food to 1160 01:11:03.319 --> 01:11:07.239 fatten themselves up as quickly as possible. And why wouldn't 1161 01:11:07.239 --> 01:11:08.520 bigfoot do the same thing? 1162 01:11:12.039 --> 01:11:15.840 Absolutely? Absolutely, There's a couple more questions I want to 1163 01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:19.680 throw out there. But before we go in further, I 1164 01:11:19.720 --> 01:11:22.600 want to go into our taking commercial break here. It's 1165 01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:26.960 three minute long, three minutes and twenty seconds. 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So everybody 1174 01:11:54.880 --> 01:11:57.720 sit tight and uh, we'll be back in three minutes. 1175 01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:02.079 ECBRO Bigfoot Radio fans, it's time to grab your pens, 1176 01:12:02.520 --> 01:12:05.399 your calendars and start writing down these dates for these 1177 01:12:05.479 --> 01:12:09.640 upcoming events. In the twenty twenty five year, February eighth, 1178 01:12:09.720 --> 01:12:12.880 the ECBRO is hosting a big Foot in lunch gathering 1179 01:12:13.359 --> 01:12:18.079 in Lexington, Virginia, happening at the Legendary Eats Cafe. If 1180 01:12:18.119 --> 01:12:20.039 you have a big Foot story or if you're just 1181 01:12:20.079 --> 01:12:21.920 a fan of Bigfoot and you want to learn what's 1182 01:12:21.920 --> 01:12:24.960 going on with the ECBRO and I know who they 1183 01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:28.039 are and what they do. This event's for you. It's 1184 01:12:28.079 --> 01:12:30.079 a free event. 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June six, seventh, and 1195 01:13:10.000 --> 01:13:16.039 eighth Happening in Marionville, Pennsylvania, the Forest County Bigfoot Festival. 1196 01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:21.880 The event that's grown so huge it's unbelievable. You're going 1197 01:13:21.960 --> 01:13:24.880 to want to attend this event. Over one hundred vendors, 1198 01:13:25.199 --> 01:13:30.159 food trucks, and guest speakers. This event is something you 1199 01:13:30.199 --> 01:13:32.840 want to attend. Not to mention if you'd like to 1200 01:13:32.840 --> 01:13:37.119 go squatching. There is the alleganty National State forest nearby. 1201 01:13:37.279 --> 01:13:39.079 You're going to want to check that forest out. It's 1202 01:13:39.199 --> 01:13:47.119 very squatching. June twentyth and twenty first, happening in Where's Cave, 1203 01:13:47.239 --> 01:13:51.039 Virginia at the Where's Cave Community Center is the annual 1204 01:13:51.239 --> 01:13:55.920 ECBRO Virginia Bigfoot Conference. Yes, it's right there, being held 1205 01:13:55.920 --> 01:13:59.560 at the Community Center and Where's Cave, Virginia. Both indoor 1206 01:13:59.680 --> 01:14:04.319 and no vendors, guest speakers, fun activity, and contest for 1207 01:14:04.439 --> 01:14:06.800 the kids. You're gonna want to check this out. If 1208 01:14:06.800 --> 01:14:09.560 you've never been to this event. It's very fun. You 1209 01:14:09.560 --> 01:14:12.359 get to meet up with other light minded people, get 1210 01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:14.000 to go out and hang out with them in the 1211 01:14:14.039 --> 01:14:17.720 evens around them fire. If you're get that special invite, 1212 01:14:17.760 --> 01:14:19.880 you get to have a lot more. You're gonna want 1213 01:14:19.880 --> 01:14:21.680 to check that out and start becoming a part of 1214 01:14:21.720 --> 01:14:24.600 that event because that is not just in an event, 1215 01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:29.119 it's like a family gathering. That's June twentieth and twenty first, 1216 01:14:29.319 --> 01:14:32.880 so feel free to check that out. And Ladies and 1217 01:14:32.920 --> 01:14:39.079 Gentlemen Happening in the month of June. Also June twenty sixth, 1218 01:14:39.199 --> 01:14:43.439 twenty seventh, and twenty eight happening in Sutton, West, Virginia, 1219 01:14:43.720 --> 01:14:48.680 is the annual Western Virginia. You have Bigfoot Festival, another massive, 1220 01:14:48.920 --> 01:14:53.119 huge festival with over one hundred of vendors, all kinds 1221 01:14:53.119 --> 01:14:56.920 of activity and fun and contests for kids and people 1222 01:14:56.920 --> 01:15:01.199 of all ages, guest sneakers, celebrities, people you're gonna want 1223 01:15:01.199 --> 01:15:03.600 to get to know and get to meet and learned 1224 01:15:03.720 --> 01:15:05.960 Rome ladies and gentlemen. I hope you guys are taking 1225 01:15:05.960 --> 01:15:08.880 the time to mark these dates and these locations down. 1226 01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:11.800 If you have any questions regarding any of these events, 1227 01:15:12.479 --> 01:15:16.119 send an email to ecb ro ninety eight at gmail 1228 01:15:16.159 --> 01:15:22.880 dot com. All right, well, here we are back again. 1229 01:15:23.399 --> 01:15:25.199 One of the things that's not mentioned in the end 1230 01:15:25.239 --> 01:15:27.039 that I want for a while out there real quick. 1231 01:15:27.800 --> 01:15:32.560 For those who may or may not know Miss Gwendolyn 1232 01:15:32.640 --> 01:15:37.560 Purcell from Pennsylvania, she hosts an annual event in the 1233 01:15:37.560 --> 01:15:44.079 month of August. August ninth the Central Pennsylvania Bigfoot Encryptied Festival, 1234 01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:49.520 happening at Memorial Park in Italy's Bird, Pennsylvania. That's right, 1235 01:15:49.600 --> 01:15:54.960 August ninth is the Central Pennsylvania Bigfoot Encryptive Festival memorial 1236 01:15:55.079 --> 01:16:00.640 at Memorial Park in Ely's Bird, Pennsylvania. Before before, excuse me, 1237 01:16:00.800 --> 01:16:04.319 be sure to check that out. And also if you 1238 01:16:04.479 --> 01:16:09.359 are a bigfoot reader enthusiast, you love to read a 1239 01:16:09.399 --> 01:16:14.319 lot of content. Gwendolyn has a new magazine. You can 1240 01:16:14.439 --> 01:16:21.520 get this on her website at www dot got Knockers 1241 01:16:21.640 --> 01:16:25.439 dot org. It's all one word, got Knockers dot org. 1242 01:16:27.319 --> 01:16:31.960 Strange Knocks Magazine. You can check that out. It's fifteen 1243 01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:34.920 dollars an issue, or you can do fifty dollars for 1244 01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:37.880 the whole year subscription. So I want to make sure 1245 01:16:37.920 --> 01:16:41.000 I frew that out there again. Gwendolyn Purcell. You can 1246 01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:46.079 find her on Facebook along with her Facebook group and 1247 01:16:46.119 --> 01:16:51.239 page got Knockers. That's right, it's her brand, her line. 1248 01:16:51.600 --> 01:16:57.520 And she is also now the new owner of Saucequatch 1249 01:16:57.680 --> 01:17:02.039 Barbecue Sauce. She took over the previous owner, mister Michael 1250 01:17:02.079 --> 01:17:08.520 Cook from Kentucky. Gwendolyn Purscell now owns the Sauce Squatch 1251 01:17:08.640 --> 01:17:13.079 Barbecue Sauce. It is great stuff. I've bought it and 1252 01:17:13.279 --> 01:17:17.439 had experienced it on a number of occasions. It's a 1253 01:17:17.600 --> 01:17:21.960 very great tasting sauce. So if you're interested in that, 1254 01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:23.800 you can reach out to her on that as well. 1255 01:17:25.439 --> 01:17:26.840 So these are a couple of things I wanted to 1256 01:17:26.840 --> 01:17:30.119 throw out there real quick, and we're excited about these 1257 01:17:30.159 --> 01:17:34.439 upcoming events because these events that I'm promoting some of them, 1258 01:17:34.560 --> 01:17:39.000 I am speaking at yours truly, Daniel big Wag, Founder 1259 01:17:39.239 --> 01:17:42.279 and lead researcher of the E. C. B r O, 1260 01:17:42.479 --> 01:17:49.239 the East Coast Bigfoot Researchers Organization, and jumping ahead. Yeah, 1261 01:17:49.359 --> 01:17:52.680 if you have any questions regarding any of these events, 1262 01:17:53.159 --> 01:17:57.479 feel free to contact me E C. B Ro ninety 1263 01:17:57.520 --> 01:18:01.359 eight at gmail dot com. The Virginia big Foot Conference. 1264 01:18:01.520 --> 01:18:04.960 If you want to be a vendor, which our vendors 1265 01:18:05.119 --> 01:18:08.319 have been signing up big time. We're loading up on 1266 01:18:08.439 --> 01:18:11.199 vendors right now. If you're interested in being a vendor 1267 01:18:11.239 --> 01:18:14.319 in want to spot the indoor spots are becoming very 1268 01:18:14.359 --> 01:18:18.680 limited as they had been filling up June twentieth and 1269 01:18:18.680 --> 01:18:23.319 twenty first right there in Where's Cape Virginia again? Ecbro 1270 01:18:23.800 --> 01:18:28.079 ninety eight at gmail dot com. Send me an email, 1271 01:18:28.079 --> 01:18:30.880 I'll give you the information and we'll get you booked. 1272 01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:44.199 So yeah, so we're back and yeah, moving ahead, William. Yeah, 1273 01:18:44.720 --> 01:18:49.560 one of the other questions I have on here, we 1274 01:18:49.720 --> 01:18:53.880 were talking about their hibernation and everything. This is kind 1275 01:18:53.880 --> 01:18:56.720 of out in left field here, but there's something I 1276 01:18:56.720 --> 01:18:59.840 had written down here which we kind of discussed. This 1277 01:19:00.159 --> 01:19:03.319 kind of going off topic just a little bit, but 1278 01:19:03.760 --> 01:19:05.279 it's one of them. It's been kind of one of 1279 01:19:05.319 --> 01:19:10.920 the discussions in one of my previous podcasts, these drones. 1280 01:19:11.960 --> 01:19:13.640 I know, they kind of it seems like they kind 1281 01:19:13.640 --> 01:19:15.560 of quiet down a little bit. You know, we don't 1282 01:19:15.560 --> 01:19:19.399 hear much about them anymore. But one of my previous 1283 01:19:19.479 --> 01:19:24.479 guests from Pennsylvania, now he's experienced witnessing some of these 1284 01:19:24.720 --> 01:19:28.800 UFOs and he's kind of shared his input on them. 1285 01:19:30.399 --> 01:19:32.720 He he He even kind of puts them as a 1286 01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:35.880 UFO because we really don't know what they are. However, 1287 01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:37.920 I don't know. I just wanted to kind of get 1288 01:19:37.960 --> 01:19:41.800 your take on that. What do you feel, I mean, 1289 01:19:41.800 --> 01:19:44.960 what do you feel about these drones? Are they do 1290 01:19:45.039 --> 01:19:47.640 you think the government's involved with them? Or could it 1291 01:19:47.720 --> 01:19:48.720 be something totally different? 1292 01:19:49.560 --> 01:19:52.680 I could I could tell you firsthand from first time 1293 01:19:52.800 --> 01:19:56.520 experience that being in the military and anybody that's put 1294 01:19:56.520 --> 01:20:02.560 in the military, like our brother Dave and Melissa, you know, 1295 01:20:03.520 --> 01:20:07.479 and uh, there's also my co host on my my podcast, 1296 01:20:08.279 --> 01:20:13.680 Eric Testerman. You know, he's an X you know, not 1297 01:20:13.760 --> 01:20:16.000 an ex marine, but you know, he was a marine 1298 01:20:16.119 --> 01:20:20.159 in active duty. And you know, we all can you know, 1299 01:20:20.319 --> 01:20:26.000 testify to a point where we don't know really the 1300 01:20:26.199 --> 01:20:31.039 extent fully of our government military technology. 1301 01:20:31.960 --> 01:20:32.279 Right. 1302 01:20:34.159 --> 01:20:37.479 I had an above top secret clearance in the military, 1303 01:20:37.600 --> 01:20:45.399 and I was basically part of a network of the 1304 01:20:45.439 --> 01:20:49.760 special access programs part of the military, the Department of Defense, 1305 01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:54.560 which is a lot of black budget operations and stuff 1306 01:20:55.039 --> 01:20:58.640 that technically aren't on the books, but they are part 1307 01:20:58.680 --> 01:21:02.319 of the books, if you know what I mean. You know, 1308 01:21:02.600 --> 01:21:09.239 there's there's so many things that that people assume are 1309 01:21:09.600 --> 01:21:16.239 from another universe or another dimension, when in actuality, it's 1310 01:21:16.279 --> 01:21:20.760 our own military doing it and testing and stuff like that. 1311 01:21:20.920 --> 01:21:23.880 I would say, in order to break it down, I 1312 01:21:23.920 --> 01:21:26.479 would say that seventy percent of what you see in 1313 01:21:26.520 --> 01:21:31.399 the sky is our own government, and maybe twenty five 1314 01:21:31.479 --> 01:21:37.760 to thirty percent is is other you know, phenomena such 1315 01:21:37.840 --> 01:21:44.840 as you know, certain celestial events, other objects in the 1316 01:21:44.880 --> 01:21:50.920 sky that may be misconscrewed, as as something like a 1317 01:21:51.039 --> 01:21:56.159 like a UFO or a UAP. And I would say 1318 01:21:56.199 --> 01:22:00.000 probably out of all that, maybe ten percent are actually 1319 01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:05.960 UFOs and UAPs, you know, and it's you know, it's 1320 01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:08.479 sad to say that, but you know, we're never really 1321 01:22:08.520 --> 01:22:09.840 going to get the whole truth. 1322 01:22:11.680 --> 01:22:11.880 You know. 1323 01:22:12.840 --> 01:22:17.239 It's it's my belief that the whole disclosure thing that 1324 01:22:17.279 --> 01:22:22.680 you're seeing now in Congress is is a red herring. 1325 01:22:22.760 --> 01:22:25.479 It's it's a you know, it's a false flag event. 1326 01:22:25.640 --> 01:22:29.680 It's it's to distract you from what's really. 1327 01:22:29.399 --> 01:22:33.920 Going on, right, I agree, you know, and. 1328 01:22:33.800 --> 01:22:36.560 It's it's it's sad to say that they've been doing 1329 01:22:36.560 --> 01:22:40.359 that to us for the longest time. Since the inception 1330 01:22:40.520 --> 01:22:46.000 of the CIA, they have been doing secret programs against 1331 01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:49.479 their own populations here in the United States and testing 1332 01:22:50.800 --> 01:22:58.520 radio waves frequencies you know, you name it, MK ultra 1333 01:22:59.439 --> 01:23:05.239 operation and Popeye operation, blue Beam, you know, and the 1334 01:23:05.319 --> 01:23:10.359 list goes on and on and on. They've been doing 1335 01:23:10.399 --> 01:23:13.399 all kinds of stuff to to test to see our 1336 01:23:13.479 --> 01:23:19.760 reactions to things and whether it's physical reaction or or uh, 1337 01:23:19.920 --> 01:23:26.159 psychological reaction. So I wouldn't I wouldn't put it past 1338 01:23:26.239 --> 01:23:31.640 the drone activity being basically our military looking for something, 1339 01:23:32.920 --> 01:23:39.079 whether it's whether it's radiological, and uh, they're they're they're 1340 01:23:39.119 --> 01:23:46.880 putting a nanoparticle smart dust into the air, which you 1341 01:23:46.880 --> 01:23:51.199 know is probably connected to the whole fog illness thing 1342 01:23:51.279 --> 01:23:52.319 that they're talking about. 1343 01:23:52.359 --> 01:23:57.640 Now, Yeah, it's funny that you mentioned that, because not 1344 01:23:57.640 --> 01:23:59.800 to interrupt you, but it's funny that you mentioned that 1345 01:24:01.039 --> 01:24:04.199 my one of my previous guests, mister John Stasco, who 1346 01:24:04.199 --> 01:24:08.319 has actually witnessed some of this phenomenon in Pennsylvania. Although 1347 01:24:08.359 --> 01:24:10.600 we hear a lot of this that a lot of 1348 01:24:10.600 --> 01:24:14.239 this arised and originated what seems to be out of 1349 01:24:14.560 --> 01:24:19.319 New Jersey for the most part. Again, he's witnessed stuff 1350 01:24:19.359 --> 01:24:23.560 out of Pennsylvania, but he shared some videos with me, 1351 01:24:24.359 --> 01:24:26.199 you know, some Facebook video. It's kind of like what 1352 01:24:26.239 --> 01:24:28.000 you do, you know, you share a lot of stuff, 1353 01:24:28.680 --> 01:24:31.199 and I've taken the time to look into some of this, 1354 01:24:31.520 --> 01:24:34.239 and you know, there's all kinds of different theories or 1355 01:24:34.359 --> 01:24:38.279 these videos are claiming that we should be more cautious 1356 01:24:38.279 --> 01:24:42.920 because these drones are maybe what you just mentioned, probably 1357 01:24:43.279 --> 01:24:48.359 spreading his brain stuff out there that may become a 1358 01:24:48.399 --> 01:24:49.800 new issue, you know, with. 1359 01:24:50.439 --> 01:24:56.199 Well, the theory is right now currently going around that 1360 01:24:57.000 --> 01:24:59.720 you know, everybody talks about the end of times and 1361 01:24:59.760 --> 01:25:04.800 all that, and you know, the whole fake you know, 1362 01:25:04.920 --> 01:25:08.880 alien invasion thing that this Project Bluebeam is and all 1363 01:25:08.960 --> 01:25:14.520 that but I take it one step further. I've been 1364 01:25:15.039 --> 01:25:18.600 doing a lot of research lately because of my my 1365 01:25:18.680 --> 01:25:23.800 near death experiences with the cancer that I'm battling. I've 1366 01:25:23.800 --> 01:25:27.560 been I've been doing a lot of research into the 1367 01:25:27.600 --> 01:25:34.239 supernatural aspect of things and being a wachashua wa kan 1368 01:25:34.359 --> 01:25:39.359 myself and being spiritually centered and interacting with the supernatural 1369 01:25:39.960 --> 01:25:48.439 on a daily basis. Pretty much. I've come to realize 1370 01:25:48.520 --> 01:25:54.800 that I wouldn't put it past governments who maybe even 1371 01:25:54.880 --> 01:26:00.279 try to fake the return of the Messiah. Everything that 1372 01:26:00.319 --> 01:26:10.479 they're doing right now biblically wise, is is is right 1373 01:26:10.520 --> 01:26:14.840 out of the book. It's you know, it's manipulation as 1374 01:26:14.880 --> 01:26:20.600 far as I'm concerned too, to possibly coerce the masses 1375 01:26:20.680 --> 01:26:27.560 into you know, another way of of following the government's, 1376 01:26:27.600 --> 01:26:31.760 you know, way of doing things right. There's there's also 1377 01:26:31.800 --> 01:26:34.720 a talk of maybe you know that the smart dust 1378 01:26:34.840 --> 01:26:38.079 is going to be part of the sign of the beast, 1379 01:26:38.199 --> 01:26:43.720 the mark of the beast. You know, there's there's that connection, 1380 01:26:44.039 --> 01:26:48.520 and you know there's connection with the the drone activity 1381 01:26:49.520 --> 01:26:56.439 spraying stuff that is searching for radiation levels to see 1382 01:26:56.479 --> 01:27:00.279 if there may be is a and I hate to 1383 01:27:00.319 --> 01:27:06.960 say it, a boomstick that is radioactive, you know, somewhere 1384 01:27:06.960 --> 01:27:12.319 in New Jersey or New York. We don't want to 1385 01:27:12.439 --> 01:27:16.159 jump to conclusions. We want to look at it as 1386 01:27:16.279 --> 01:27:20.159 rationally as possible, but yet think outside the box too 1387 01:27:20.239 --> 01:27:27.960 at the same time. So you know, it's kind of 1388 01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:33.359 a fifty to fifty toss up for me. I'm one 1389 01:27:33.439 --> 01:27:37.600 that I don't trust the government, okay, and I just don't. 1390 01:27:37.960 --> 01:27:42.199 I don't trust the government. I've worked for them, I've 1391 01:27:42.199 --> 01:27:46.520 been in the military, I've done things for them, you know, 1392 01:27:46.840 --> 01:27:53.439 and I know what they do, okay, and I know that. 1393 01:27:53.680 --> 01:27:55.840 You know, it says in the Bible also that we 1394 01:27:56.079 --> 01:27:59.920 not only do we have to you know, the principality 1395 01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:03.199 these and all that that we have to go against, 1396 01:28:04.000 --> 01:28:06.760 but we also have to watch out for the evil governors, 1397 01:28:07.239 --> 01:28:13.840 which is descriptions of government, you know. And we all 1398 01:28:13.880 --> 01:28:16.560 know that the way government is that they're going to 1399 01:28:17.399 --> 01:28:20.199 do what's best for them and not what's best for 1400 01:28:20.279 --> 01:28:24.960 the people. You know. It's been that way with my people, 1401 01:28:25.119 --> 01:28:29.680 my indigenous background and my ancestors for for thousands of years. 1402 01:28:30.199 --> 01:28:32.199 You know, it's been that way. You know, we've been 1403 01:28:32.880 --> 01:28:37.520 we've been uh invaded upon by China. We've been invaded 1404 01:28:37.640 --> 01:28:43.920 upon by the Norse, the Norse people, the Vikings, the British, 1405 01:28:44.199 --> 01:28:48.880 the European Europeans, yeah, you name it. I mean, we've 1406 01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:52.439 had every culture in the world come here, even before Columbus, 1407 01:28:53.119 --> 01:28:57.840 so you know, and that's been proven. So you know, 1408 01:28:59.319 --> 01:29:02.159 I wouldn't put it past our government Daniel doing doing 1409 01:29:02.199 --> 01:29:07.800 what they're doing, and and making it another reason or 1410 01:29:07.840 --> 01:29:09.520 excuse to control the masses. 1411 01:29:09.640 --> 01:29:16.720 I really don't, right, absolutely, shoot, I mean there's so 1412 01:29:16.840 --> 01:29:19.680 much she brought the mind that I could grow out 1413 01:29:19.680 --> 01:29:23.960 there too, I mean, I mean, I mean, yeah, Christopher 1414 01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:26.720 Columbus was given a lot of credit for whatever. He 1415 01:29:26.840 --> 01:29:29.720 wasn't the first one land here. You know, there was 1416 01:29:30.079 --> 01:29:34.479 Native Americas already here, you know, long before Christopher Columbus. 1417 01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:39.800 Lee Erickson landed here many many hundreds of years before him. 1418 01:29:39.880 --> 01:29:43.520 And there's yeah, there's proof right there from from Native 1419 01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:48.119 legends too. With the Abenaki. You know, the Abaki talked 1420 01:29:48.119 --> 01:29:54.640 about Kolas Scoff, this giant, this giant warrior that wasn't 1421 01:29:54.640 --> 01:29:57.960 afraid of anything, and his best friend was was Otter, 1422 01:29:58.600 --> 01:30:02.159 and uh, you know he was he was the kind 1423 01:30:02.199 --> 01:30:06.199 of of of being that would would hide behind a 1424 01:30:06.239 --> 01:30:09.279 bush and shake in fright when the ghosts at night 1425 01:30:09.399 --> 01:30:12.960 used to come out, and uh, you know, Kula Scoff 1426 01:30:13.000 --> 01:30:15.439 stood up to the ghost and you know, and and 1427 01:30:15.600 --> 01:30:20.239 they basically vanquished them. And the legends and the stories 1428 01:30:20.319 --> 01:30:23.119 of Kula Scoff are basically the same kind of legends 1429 01:30:23.119 --> 01:30:27.239 that you would find with Bigfoot or or a very 1430 01:30:27.359 --> 01:30:34.039 very large nor Nor Norrish type of an individual of Viking, right, 1431 01:30:34.960 --> 01:30:40.600 you know? So I mean, yeah, yeah, they're going to show. 1432 01:30:41.920 --> 01:30:44.560 Right, And there's a lot of history that does not 1433 01:30:44.600 --> 01:30:49.119 get presented today like it used to. I mean, for example, 1434 01:30:49.359 --> 01:30:53.800 I mean my parents, my parents watch Jeopardy, and I 1435 01:30:53.960 --> 01:30:57.079 remember a few years ago one of the things that 1436 01:30:57.239 --> 01:31:02.359 was presented on Jeopardy was where was you know? It 1437 01:31:02.399 --> 01:31:04.920 had something to do with who was an America named after? 1438 01:31:05.840 --> 01:31:08.319 And my parents are surprised. Who? I How I knew 1439 01:31:08.319 --> 01:31:13.880 the answer before I got put out there. America Dyspucci. Yeah, 1440 01:31:14.199 --> 01:31:19.119 America Dyspucci. America was named after America Dyspucci, who ran 1441 01:31:19.239 --> 01:31:24.680 here in Florida some years before the Columbus. Like, how 1442 01:31:24.720 --> 01:31:26.800 do you know that? So I learned that back in school. 1443 01:31:26.920 --> 01:31:29.640 I said, that was back when history was still taught, 1444 01:31:29.840 --> 01:31:32.039 you know, and you. 1445 01:31:32.000 --> 01:31:35.159 Know, it's it's another thing too though, because you know, 1446 01:31:35.199 --> 01:31:38.600 I'm always one that you know, the way the education 1447 01:31:38.800 --> 01:31:41.359 system is set up, the education is set up by 1448 01:31:41.399 --> 01:31:45.880 the victors, right you know, And and we're being taught 1449 01:31:45.960 --> 01:31:48.279 by the victors, which means they're the ones that are 1450 01:31:48.279 --> 01:31:52.600 in control, and we're the ones that are being enslaved 1451 01:31:52.680 --> 01:31:55.079 with the knowledge that they're allowing us to have. 1452 01:31:55.840 --> 01:31:59.560 Right, you know, They're limiting all knowledge, is what they're 1453 01:31:59.560 --> 01:32:02.239 trying to do. 1454 01:32:02.279 --> 01:32:05.520 We all know that civilizations built the top on top 1455 01:32:05.560 --> 01:32:10.319 of civilization, you know. And you know, take for instance, 1456 01:32:10.399 --> 01:32:11.279 the Grand Canyon. 1457 01:32:13.279 --> 01:32:16.680 You know, for the longest time, you know, we had 1458 01:32:16.800 --> 01:32:21.039 native legends of of these beautiful people that came here 1459 01:32:22.399 --> 01:32:27.560 that wore elegant you know, attire and stuff and built pyramids. 1460 01:32:29.520 --> 01:32:33.159 In the Grand Canyon area. And recently they just found 1461 01:32:33.960 --> 01:32:39.840 a cave that they marked off Little Egypt and bart 1462 01:32:39.960 --> 01:32:43.279 you know, cornered it off away from public view because 1463 01:32:43.319 --> 01:32:48.479 they found Egyptian artifacts in the Grand Canyon, you know, 1464 01:32:48.800 --> 01:32:53.760 so you know, there's that connection to to to Egypt. 1465 01:32:54.399 --> 01:32:59.520 So there's there's so much they don't teach us, and 1466 01:32:59.560 --> 01:33:04.359 they reason and the Smithsonian and NASA are the two biggest, 1467 01:33:04.760 --> 01:33:12.159 biggest frauds as far as I'm concerned. In history of America, 1468 01:33:12.800 --> 01:33:18.560 the Smithsonian is is the leader and the cause for 1469 01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:23.640 for hiding the giant bones that are discovered, right, you know, 1470 01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:30.000 So it's it's it's ridiculous, it really is. And there's 1471 01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:32.720 no wonder why so many people are starting to question 1472 01:33:32.880 --> 01:33:38.000 everything and you know, basically you know, finding out on 1473 01:33:38.039 --> 01:33:39.600 our own, you know, the truth. 1474 01:33:41.600 --> 01:33:45.520 Oh yeah, Uh, there's something I came across earlier before 1475 01:33:45.560 --> 01:33:48.279 we started this. I was watching. I came across something. 1476 01:33:48.319 --> 01:33:51.119 I was watching something I had something to do with 1477 01:33:51.520 --> 01:33:55.319 the coal miners, like you know in Kentucky for example, 1478 01:33:56.119 --> 01:33:59.319 I mean coal miners. I don't know if this what 1479 01:33:59.439 --> 01:34:02.119 the truth is behind this, but it sounds pretty legit 1480 01:34:02.159 --> 01:34:07.039 from what I was watching. But coal miners with their 1481 01:34:07.039 --> 01:34:10.000 equipment back in when they were back in the way, 1482 01:34:10.119 --> 01:34:13.359 back in the day where they were so far under 1483 01:34:13.399 --> 01:34:18.079 the ground, you know, doing their mining that where they've 1484 01:34:18.119 --> 01:34:23.239 come across artifacts and old coins with bizarre looking images 1485 01:34:23.279 --> 01:34:28.279 on them that didn't look or resemble anything modern, you know, 1486 01:34:28.479 --> 01:34:31.880 or some of it was alien like or I shouldn't 1487 01:34:31.880 --> 01:34:35.199 say really alien like, but just with images of weird 1488 01:34:35.239 --> 01:34:37.880 creatures on these coins that they came across, you know, 1489 01:34:38.720 --> 01:34:41.680 so it kind of I don't know, again, I don't 1490 01:34:41.680 --> 01:34:43.399 know what the truth is behind that, if it was 1491 01:34:43.399 --> 01:34:47.199 a real documentary documentary or what. But there's some bizarre 1492 01:34:47.199 --> 01:34:50.560 stuff that some of the coal miners have discovered during 1493 01:34:50.560 --> 01:34:55.640 their mining. You know, it makes makes you really wonder true. 1494 01:34:55.680 --> 01:34:57.279 Well, I mean, if you take a look at the 1495 01:34:57.399 --> 01:35:00.720 at the at some of the biggest copper minds in 1496 01:35:00.199 --> 01:35:03.399 the in the world right now, you see that they 1497 01:35:03.439 --> 01:35:07.000 actually they mine it in a level type of a thing. 1498 01:35:07.079 --> 01:35:12.279 They'll go on certain levels. And you compare those pictures 1499 01:35:12.840 --> 01:35:17.159 with a certain part of the Grand Canyon, and you know, 1500 01:35:18.039 --> 01:35:21.359 America was so rich back in the day before the 1501 01:35:21.399 --> 01:35:28.760 Europeans came here with copper and silver that we mined it. 1502 01:35:29.000 --> 01:35:34.079 Indigenous people mined it out of the Grand Canyon area 1503 01:35:34.319 --> 01:35:39.119 and also in the areas around Upper Michigan in the 1504 01:35:39.119 --> 01:35:43.479 Peninsula of Michigan, right so you know, those are the 1505 01:35:43.479 --> 01:35:48.159 two biggest areas where copper mining was was used as 1506 01:35:48.159 --> 01:35:54.960 a bartering tool, you know. So you know, and the 1507 01:35:55.000 --> 01:35:59.119 Egyptians used copper and gold all the time in silver 1508 01:35:59.520 --> 01:36:04.760 and everything that they made, So there's that connection too. So, 1509 01:36:05.680 --> 01:36:08.239 I mean there's so much that that we are taught 1510 01:36:08.279 --> 01:36:13.600 that is false that unless we really go out and 1511 01:36:13.640 --> 01:36:16.239 do the investigation and research on our own, we're never 1512 01:36:16.319 --> 01:36:19.560 really going to know the percent of the truth. 1513 01:36:21.439 --> 01:36:27.720 Absolutely absolutely. I mean I part of me feels like, Okay, 1514 01:36:27.760 --> 01:36:30.199 there's a matter of time, certain things will come to 1515 01:36:30.880 --> 01:36:34.079 like then again, at the same time, I feel like 1516 01:36:34.119 --> 01:36:37.760 maybe there's certain things will never really know to a 1517 01:36:37.880 --> 01:36:43.159 tea but you know, uh, I don't know. This is 1518 01:36:43.159 --> 01:36:44.800 how I feel on a lot of this because a 1519 01:36:44.800 --> 01:36:47.479 lot of people share a lot of information with me, 1520 01:36:47.920 --> 01:36:54.359 uh regarding various uh theories and you know, and this 1521 01:36:54.439 --> 01:36:58.239 and that, and I try not to read too much 1522 01:36:58.359 --> 01:37:01.960 into them, the type of personally like, Okay, if there's 1523 01:37:01.960 --> 01:37:05.159 going to be any truth involved, I mean, there's gonna 1524 01:37:05.199 --> 01:37:09.720 be some concrete evidence eventually, if anything, that will kind 1525 01:37:09.720 --> 01:37:12.079 of shed some light on certain certain topics and certain 1526 01:37:12.119 --> 01:37:18.000 things because a lot of these conspiracy theories, again, a 1527 01:37:18.039 --> 01:37:20.119 lot of people like to share and present things to me. 1528 01:37:20.319 --> 01:37:22.600 I don't know where, you know, I don't want to 1529 01:37:22.600 --> 01:37:25.960 get drawn into that too much, right, I mean I'll 1530 01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:28.840 look at things and look, okay, kind of take mental 1531 01:37:28.880 --> 01:37:30.720 notes of these things, keep it in the back of 1532 01:37:30.760 --> 01:37:34.159 my head. But you know, until so we have some 1533 01:37:34.239 --> 01:37:38.000 concrete evidence, I don't want to jump on things and 1534 01:37:38.039 --> 01:37:40.439 I feel and I feel that's what a lot of 1535 01:37:40.479 --> 01:37:43.439 people do. They jump on these things, but well, where's 1536 01:37:43.439 --> 01:37:46.319 the evidence of it? You know, it's just it's just 1537 01:37:46.359 --> 01:37:49.880 a theory, you know, I mean, and that's what's taking 1538 01:37:49.920 --> 01:37:52.760 over a lot of our mindset is the theories. I 1539 01:37:52.840 --> 01:37:54.079 mean big put included. 1540 01:37:54.399 --> 01:37:59.640 But that's like, that's like the whole how the whole 1541 01:38:00.199 --> 01:38:04.680 that was at one time Pangaea and you know right right, 1542 01:38:04.840 --> 01:38:08.039 those connections could have been made during the time when 1543 01:38:08.399 --> 01:38:13.439 the continent was one big continent and you know called Pangaea, right, 1544 01:38:14.039 --> 01:38:19.000 the reason the Egyptian artifacts were here. But there's a 1545 01:38:19.119 --> 01:38:26.399 there's a discrepancy in the timelines of history that we're taught. 1546 01:38:27.159 --> 01:38:30.960 And we're taught that the the that the earth is 1547 01:38:32.279 --> 01:38:36.119 millions and millions and millions of ninety to one hundred 1548 01:38:36.159 --> 01:38:39.479 and twenty million years old, you know, or whatnot, and 1549 01:38:40.359 --> 01:38:44.439 through history and in actuality, it doesn't add up to 1550 01:38:44.520 --> 01:38:46.319 that much, you know exactly. 1551 01:38:47.039 --> 01:38:49.920 Thank you for saying that, because I'm the same I 1552 01:38:49.960 --> 01:38:52.439 think in view the same way you do. 1553 01:38:54.119 --> 01:38:57.000 And it's just it's just, you know, I've been you know, 1554 01:38:57.359 --> 01:39:01.720 I was taught by my my father to literally question everything, 1555 01:39:01.800 --> 01:39:04.279 you know, because you want to go, you don't want 1556 01:39:04.319 --> 01:39:06.960 to go. There's a time to speak and a time 1557 01:39:07.000 --> 01:39:09.000 to be silent. It is the first thing that I 1558 01:39:09.039 --> 01:39:14.000 was taught, right, you know, if I'm silent, I'm silent 1559 01:39:14.039 --> 01:39:21.279 for a reason, right. It's it's there's just there's so 1560 01:39:21.479 --> 01:39:25.600 much that we need that we have been misguided and 1561 01:39:26.560 --> 01:39:32.000 mistaught over time, and I just wish that the powers 1562 01:39:32.039 --> 01:39:37.399 that be would would be honest with humanity and and 1563 01:39:37.439 --> 01:39:38.760 tell them the truth. 1564 01:39:39.079 --> 01:39:44.520 You know, right, I mean, like, for example, now, I 1565 01:39:44.560 --> 01:39:49.399 know there's so many paleontologists, there are archaeologists, and so 1566 01:39:49.600 --> 01:39:53.560 many other different types of scientists out there. They all 1567 01:39:53.680 --> 01:39:55.600 have their own theory. But at the same time, a 1568 01:39:55.640 --> 01:39:59.319 lot of them like to jump on board with the 1569 01:39:59.399 --> 01:40:03.479 lifespan of Earth. You know how long we've been around, right, 1570 01:40:04.399 --> 01:40:07.600 But very few you know, everybody's going to have their 1571 01:40:07.640 --> 01:40:12.000 own take on this. But I don't think Earth is 1572 01:40:12.199 --> 01:40:16.760 as old as what what scientists say. I really don't. 1573 01:40:16.960 --> 01:40:20.199 I think it's a lot earlier. I mean, if I 1574 01:40:20.239 --> 01:40:22.760 have to speak my mind on this, I think five 1575 01:40:22.800 --> 01:40:27.199 thousand years old is the next, right, you know, I 1576 01:40:27.239 --> 01:40:29.760 mean I think a lot of what we discover and 1577 01:40:29.840 --> 01:40:34.000 what's being found to archaeologists and stuff is it was 1578 01:40:34.000 --> 01:40:36.000 probably only a couple of thousand years ago, you know, 1579 01:40:36.159 --> 01:40:37.479 not two million years. 1580 01:40:38.439 --> 01:40:42.760 You know, you know we're basing you think about it, though, 1581 01:40:43.079 --> 01:40:49.239 we're basing our science off of off of a history 1582 01:40:49.319 --> 01:40:53.479 that that isn't factual. And the way of testing things, 1583 01:40:53.600 --> 01:41:01.880 and and I mean who basically made the teachers of knowledge? 1584 01:41:03.439 --> 01:41:08.880 Who gave them the information that they're basing their their 1585 01:41:08.960 --> 01:41:11.560 theories on, because that's all it is a theory. 1586 01:41:12.039 --> 01:41:19.479 Exactly exactly I mean, I mean, yeah, I mean there 1587 01:41:19.640 --> 01:41:23.000 is very few, but there is a few that you know, 1588 01:41:23.079 --> 01:41:28.840 like I said, there's other paleontologists and archaeologists, longtime scientists 1589 01:41:28.920 --> 01:41:33.359 that have been you know, involved with the studies and 1590 01:41:33.399 --> 01:41:37.199 the research behind what they do that will there's some 1591 01:41:37.359 --> 01:41:39.359 if you do you if you dig deep and do 1592 01:41:39.439 --> 01:41:41.560 your research, which I've actually come across a few which 1593 01:41:41.600 --> 01:41:43.960 I was actually kind of surprised to find. These people 1594 01:41:46.079 --> 01:41:48.000 that they will tell you the Earth is not as 1595 01:41:48.079 --> 01:41:51.239 old as what people believe it is. Because what other 1596 01:41:51.319 --> 01:41:54.119 scientists has claimed. You know, there's no. 1597 01:41:55.439 --> 01:41:57.720 Can I give you. Let me, let me give you 1598 01:41:57.760 --> 01:42:01.560 some information. I follow a guy that I think he 1599 01:42:01.840 --> 01:42:06.359 is just he's phenomenal. He's he's he's my age or 1600 01:42:06.399 --> 01:42:10.279 maybe a couple of years older. He has it's what 1601 01:42:10.319 --> 01:42:16.760 it's called mud fossil University. Okay, it's called mud fossil 1602 01:42:16.880 --> 01:42:20.159 University for anybody out there that wants to to take 1603 01:42:20.199 --> 01:42:24.920 a different look at things. And he has is one 1604 01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:29.520 that really uh he's he's well versed in a lot 1605 01:42:29.560 --> 01:42:37.920 of the the archaeology of things, the he's big into 1606 01:42:38.079 --> 01:42:44.359 the giants theory. Yeah, it's really really fascinating stuff that 1607 01:42:44.520 --> 01:42:51.359 he's he's finding out the truth about and he's been 1608 01:42:51.399 --> 01:42:54.199 around for quite a while doing it, and so you know, 1609 01:42:54.640 --> 01:42:58.800 he's very versed at it. And uh, I would I 1610 01:42:58.840 --> 01:43:02.560 would consider his his theories to be more sound than 1611 01:43:02.600 --> 01:43:06.039 what we're taught in school. Let's put it there, right. So, 1612 01:43:07.199 --> 01:43:10.720 but yeah, it's called mud fossil universities and it's he's 1613 01:43:10.760 --> 01:43:14.840 a really good guy to follow. He's got a lot 1614 01:43:14.880 --> 01:43:19.640 of good information, so information that makes you really question 1615 01:43:20.560 --> 01:43:21.600 what we're taught. 1616 01:43:22.560 --> 01:43:34.159 Right, absolutely, absolutely, Well give me one second. So, yeah, 1617 01:43:34.680 --> 01:43:36.560 you haven't do you have a name to go by 1618 01:43:36.600 --> 01:43:39.000 on that as far as who's behind that. 1619 01:43:40.479 --> 01:43:45.039 Uh, just I have his name, but I don't like 1620 01:43:45.079 --> 01:43:48.399 to give out his name. But all you gotta do 1621 01:43:48.520 --> 01:43:49.319 is is is. 1622 01:43:49.479 --> 01:43:49.800 Uh. 1623 01:43:50.439 --> 01:43:53.720 He has a YouTube channel called mud Fossil University and 1624 01:43:53.760 --> 01:43:59.119 he's on Facebook also and Instagram. Okay, yeah, just just 1625 01:43:59.279 --> 01:44:04.000 punching mud sssal University and uh, it'll come up so 1626 01:44:04.159 --> 01:44:06.159 you'll know that he's the only one that does. 1627 01:44:08.600 --> 01:44:11.079 Awesome if Yeah, I'll have to look into that myself. 1628 01:44:11.239 --> 01:44:16.520 So yeah, I'm always looking into yeah, yeah, interesting stuff. 1629 01:44:16.600 --> 01:44:22.319 So all right, very good, very good. Yeah, because you know, 1630 01:44:22.800 --> 01:44:25.000 there's so much we can get into on this here too, 1631 01:44:25.039 --> 01:44:28.640 because that would definitely be a different topic for a 1632 01:44:28.680 --> 01:44:33.159 whole different discussion on another episode for sure. But I 1633 01:44:33.239 --> 01:44:35.920 love getting don't get me wrong. I love getting into 1634 01:44:36.439 --> 01:44:40.199 talking about different theories and you know, other things from 1635 01:44:40.279 --> 01:44:43.399 because you know, I think what a lot of people 1636 01:44:43.640 --> 01:44:47.239 here throughout the years, and you know what that depends 1637 01:44:47.279 --> 01:44:50.399 on how or how or who or what they follow. 1638 01:44:51.520 --> 01:44:54.319 You know a lot of people get stuck on hearing 1639 01:44:54.439 --> 01:45:00.000 and thinking and believing in one mind set, you know. Uh, 1640 01:45:01.199 --> 01:45:03.960 Because I really think people need to be more open 1641 01:45:04.439 --> 01:45:09.279 and to consider these other possibilities, because it would be 1642 01:45:09.319 --> 01:45:12.439 a game changer if they were to listen to these 1643 01:45:12.479 --> 01:45:14.439 other talks. 1644 01:45:14.760 --> 01:45:18.720 The best, the best, the best movie advice I ever 1645 01:45:18.840 --> 01:45:20.920 saw when I was growing up. I don't know if 1646 01:45:20.960 --> 01:45:25.840 you were a big Bruce Lee, Oh my gosh, yeah, 1647 01:45:26.279 --> 01:45:28.800 his one of his movies he did. I think it 1648 01:45:28.880 --> 01:45:33.239 was Entering Enter the Dragon, Right, he's teaching the young 1649 01:45:33.359 --> 01:45:36.880 man and he's he says, he says to the young man, 1650 01:45:37.000 --> 01:45:41.359 you know, he points to heaven and he points to 1651 01:45:41.399 --> 01:45:46.159 the sky, and he says, the world is is like 1652 01:45:46.560 --> 01:45:50.239 the tip of your finger. And the kid looks at 1653 01:45:50.279 --> 01:45:53.239 the tip of his finger, and he smacks the kid 1654 01:45:53.239 --> 01:45:55.159 in the back of the head, and he says, but 1655 01:45:55.279 --> 01:45:59.560 don't forget to look at all that heavenly glory that 1656 01:45:59.640 --> 01:46:03.960 you see above that finger pointing to the sky and right, 1657 01:46:04.479 --> 01:46:09.760 and that's that's just you know, that that encapsulates the 1658 01:46:09.800 --> 01:46:12.279 way to actually look at things. You could either walk 1659 01:46:12.319 --> 01:46:17.520 through life with blinders on like a like a pack 1660 01:46:17.640 --> 01:46:22.279 mule wood. Oh yeah, or you could walk through life 1661 01:46:23.039 --> 01:46:28.239 questioning everything and and and learning for yourself the way 1662 01:46:28.359 --> 01:46:30.840 things are, you know exactly. 1663 01:46:32.000 --> 01:46:38.199 So yeah, I mean that kind of goes for show 1664 01:46:38.319 --> 01:46:40.199 like I used to do. Uh, I used to do 1665 01:46:40.359 --> 01:46:43.119 some door door sales. I used to work for a 1666 01:46:43.199 --> 01:46:48.720 home excuse me, eighty key home security systems. And with 1667 01:46:48.840 --> 01:46:52.560 what I did, we were we were basically trained with 1668 01:46:52.760 --> 01:46:56.000 a speech or a presentation when we went the door 1669 01:46:56.079 --> 01:46:58.359 door and we were able to a form it in 1670 01:46:58.359 --> 01:47:03.840 our own way. But through our classroom training doing the sales, 1671 01:47:05.279 --> 01:47:08.359 are you know our instructor used to tell us that 1672 01:47:09.319 --> 01:47:13.359 put on the blinders to stay focused on that one topic, 1673 01:47:13.640 --> 01:47:17.359 on what we're trained to do. And and and that's 1674 01:47:17.359 --> 01:47:21.960 the problem with today's society. Everybody gets everybody is forced 1675 01:47:22.039 --> 01:47:25.640 to have these blinders on. You know, we're forced to 1676 01:47:25.680 --> 01:47:28.840 see one way, or believe one way, or think one way. 1677 01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:32.439 That's where it's important for us to open our minds 1678 01:47:32.439 --> 01:47:34.800 and like, wait a minute, are we really being taught 1679 01:47:34.840 --> 01:47:38.920 in the right thing? You know? So people need to 1680 01:47:38.960 --> 01:47:43.159 open up take to remove the blinders. You know, you know, 1681 01:47:43.680 --> 01:47:47.199 we're focused on one way because society, and that's one 1682 01:47:47.199 --> 01:47:49.880 thing I presented in the past, and that's why a 1683 01:47:49.880 --> 01:47:53.359 lot of people, there's a lot of people blinded by 1684 01:47:54.079 --> 01:47:57.279 the whole subject the bigfoot sasquatch or any other cryptics 1685 01:47:57.279 --> 01:48:01.640 for that matter right through our mental program. Yeah, we're 1686 01:48:01.760 --> 01:48:05.720 through the mental program and through society. You know, regardless 1687 01:48:05.720 --> 01:48:09.800 of what we're taught from our youth, we're taught to 1688 01:48:09.920 --> 01:48:14.760 think and believe in a certain you know way instead 1689 01:48:14.760 --> 01:48:18.279 of open up. You know, there's a reality that we're 1690 01:48:18.319 --> 01:48:21.600 not taught to look at, you know, so you know, 1691 01:48:21.680 --> 01:48:25.319 we need to open our minds and think, Okay, what 1692 01:48:25.439 --> 01:48:29.680 why is society programming us this way? You know, they 1693 01:48:29.760 --> 01:48:33.039 want us to believe this. It's happening more and more 1694 01:48:33.079 --> 01:48:36.079 in modern times now than it was since I was 1695 01:48:36.159 --> 01:48:38.840 a kid. I mean back when, back when I was 1696 01:48:38.840 --> 01:48:41.840 a kid, Yeah, history was a little different. We actually learned, 1697 01:48:42.279 --> 01:48:45.399 you know, back when history before it got perverted and 1698 01:48:46.239 --> 01:48:49.399 closed off to us. You know, a lot of us. 1699 01:48:49.760 --> 01:48:53.159 Look with my year, my age, and my generation, we 1700 01:48:53.159 --> 01:48:55.720 were taught history the way it was supposed to be taught. 1701 01:48:56.359 --> 01:48:59.520 Then I've seen it change over the years. You know, 1702 01:48:59.640 --> 01:49:03.600 I'm still young enough to realize that they were trying 1703 01:49:03.640 --> 01:49:06.119 to you know, like when my when my daughter was 1704 01:49:06.159 --> 01:49:09.239 going to school, they're not taught teaching history. I mean 1705 01:49:09.239 --> 01:49:11.079 there's a lot of there's a lot of crap. I 1706 01:49:11.359 --> 01:49:14.720 used to ask my daughter, she's you know she should 1707 01:49:14.760 --> 01:49:16.199 have known this stuff. I said, they don't. What are 1708 01:49:16.199 --> 01:49:18.840 you talking about. They don't teach you this. This is 1709 01:49:18.960 --> 01:49:23.000 this is the important stuff, you know. So with today's youth, 1710 01:49:23.279 --> 01:49:28.479 they started just neglecting things or closing things off and 1711 01:49:28.680 --> 01:49:29.960 just teaching a big push. 1712 01:49:30.159 --> 01:49:32.319 Yeah, the big push now, Daniel, I don't know if 1713 01:49:32.359 --> 01:49:36.439 you've noticed though, is there's a big push now basically 1714 01:49:36.520 --> 01:49:41.560 from a certain group of individuals in this country where 1715 01:49:41.800 --> 01:49:44.680 they're saying that our children don't need to be educated, 1716 01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:47.000 they need to be taken by the government. 1717 01:49:47.039 --> 01:49:51.640 Now. So well that's where yeah, right, I get that, 1718 01:49:51.680 --> 01:49:56.199 because they want everybody to be dependent on the government, right, 1719 01:49:56.960 --> 01:50:04.279 which no, you know, h there's former presidents and no, 1720 01:50:04.560 --> 01:50:08.840 they there's certain former presidents years from our years past, 1721 01:50:09.279 --> 01:50:11.800 back when I was growing up. We'll tell you no, 1722 01:50:12.239 --> 01:50:14.479 the government, you know, don't let the government control you. 1723 01:50:14.960 --> 01:50:18.199 Basically what they're saying, you know, don't depend on your government. 1724 01:50:18.760 --> 01:50:22.800 But there is there are certain parties that want you 1725 01:50:22.840 --> 01:50:27.359 to become dependent upon them. You know, same thing for 1726 01:50:27.479 --> 01:50:31.079 the same dependent parties that that want you to be 1727 01:50:31.279 --> 01:50:34.199 you know that they want to be in control because 1728 01:50:34.640 --> 01:50:36.920 you know, hey, we still want to keep you a 1729 01:50:37.000 --> 01:50:38.960 slave follow us. 1730 01:50:40.600 --> 01:50:43.840 The whole system set up. The way the whole system 1731 01:50:43.880 --> 01:50:46.720 is set up is like I tell everybody, from a 1732 01:50:46.720 --> 01:50:50.600 lot of my research that I do because I research everything, right, 1733 01:50:51.399 --> 01:50:55.279 I'm not just a supernatural and paranormal investigator. I research everything, 1734 01:50:55.760 --> 01:51:01.119 including conspiracy theories and the whole nine yards. And I've 1735 01:51:01.159 --> 01:51:04.880 come across a lot of different things that a lot 1736 01:51:04.920 --> 01:51:08.760 of people never knew about the Royal family in the UK. 1737 01:51:09.079 --> 01:51:15.439 You know how back in the early eighteen hundreds they 1738 01:51:15.520 --> 01:51:21.520 became broke, and you know, they basically were approached by 1739 01:51:21.560 --> 01:51:27.000 the Rothschilds and in I think it was eighteen twenty 1740 01:51:27.039 --> 01:51:30.279 two as a matter of factor eighteen twelve somewhere around there, 1741 01:51:31.840 --> 01:51:36.479 because the Rothschilds told them, you make an agreement with us, 1742 01:51:36.520 --> 01:51:40.520 that you breed your bloodline with our family and we'll 1743 01:51:40.600 --> 01:51:44.520 finance you. And that's how the Rothschild's blood line got 1744 01:51:44.560 --> 01:51:48.039 into the Royal family blood line. And that's why a 1745 01:51:48.039 --> 01:51:51.199 lot of people feel that that bloodline currently is not 1746 01:51:51.359 --> 01:51:55.399 the right blood line when it comes to the Royalty 1747 01:51:55.520 --> 01:52:01.079 of the United Kingdom because of it, you know. And 1748 01:52:01.119 --> 01:52:04.039 then in a lot of my research, I just recently 1749 01:52:04.079 --> 01:52:06.279 found out that a lot of people really don't know 1750 01:52:06.359 --> 01:52:10.640 about is. And I found this absolutely fascinating, to tell 1751 01:52:10.680 --> 01:52:17.000 you the truth, but that King Charles of the United 1752 01:52:17.079 --> 01:52:27.760 Kingdom is the living air to the Vlad the Impaler's kingdom, right, 1753 01:52:27.880 --> 01:52:34.560 Oh yeah, the real the real Lad d Impaler. 1754 01:52:35.640 --> 01:52:38.199 Hey, I'm a fan of his by the way, because 1755 01:52:38.239 --> 01:52:43.399 they made movies about Bad the Empy. Of course you're 1756 01:52:43.439 --> 01:52:47.840 in the vampire movies. I am a big fan. Yeah. 1757 01:52:47.920 --> 01:52:50.479 I mean, how many people do you think know that 1758 01:52:50.720 --> 01:52:55.880 King Charles of the UK is a descendant and the 1759 01:52:55.960 --> 01:52:59.199 surviving heir to that kingdom? 1760 01:53:00.199 --> 01:53:01.800 Right? That's interesting? 1761 01:53:02.399 --> 01:53:05.279 Yeah, So that that tells you right there the way 1762 01:53:05.319 --> 01:53:11.840 things are going, right. So yeah, I mean there's there's 1763 01:53:11.880 --> 01:53:14.600 so much we're not taught. There really is, and I 1764 01:53:14.640 --> 01:53:19.159 mean I talk about it all the time on my podcast, 1765 01:53:19.279 --> 01:53:24.720 but you know, people tend to not not understand that 1766 01:53:25.159 --> 01:53:27.640 they have a right to question it. You know, they 1767 01:53:27.680 --> 01:53:31.600 have a white right to to question everything that they're 1768 01:53:31.640 --> 01:53:35.439 taught because it's not the way it is, you know. 1769 01:53:36.720 --> 01:53:40.359 So and that's the thing I mean, and that kind 1770 01:53:40.399 --> 01:53:42.279 of relates. You know, we can look at this in 1771 01:53:42.399 --> 01:53:48.199 so many different directions here, I mean, between the history, politics, 1772 01:53:48.880 --> 01:53:54.199 even what we're discussing in general bigfoot cryptids. I mean, yeah, 1773 01:53:54.239 --> 01:53:57.600 I mean that's why there's so many uh, you know, 1774 01:53:58.680 --> 01:54:01.640 what's the word I'm looking for. There's so many skeptics 1775 01:54:01.720 --> 01:54:06.279 on the on this level for so many reasons, because again, 1776 01:54:06.960 --> 01:54:11.039 we're we're we're programmed with these blinders, the kind of 1777 01:54:11.359 --> 01:54:15.239 you know, not think outside the box when you know, 1778 01:54:16.119 --> 01:54:19.239 to consider the possibilities of these other realms and these 1779 01:54:19.279 --> 01:54:23.960 other you know, realities that actually live among us, you know. 1780 01:54:24.159 --> 01:54:29.199 So uh, it's it's it's mind blowing too. Uh you know, 1781 01:54:30.279 --> 01:54:31.000 it's crazy. 1782 01:54:31.359 --> 01:54:33.920 Yeah, even the whole I don't know, if you you know, 1783 01:54:34.760 --> 01:54:37.119 I do a lot of research about the ana Naki. 1784 01:54:37.199 --> 01:54:40.319 Also, I know a little bit about that. I was 1785 01:54:40.359 --> 01:54:43.680 actually watching a video clip on that. Uh actually also 1786 01:54:43.880 --> 01:54:47.119 before we started the podcast tonight, but I started to 1787 01:54:47.159 --> 01:54:47.960 follow this some of it. 1788 01:54:48.079 --> 01:54:51.399 But yeah, oh that that that had something to do 1789 01:54:51.479 --> 01:54:54.119 with what I was talking about earlier, with the coal 1790 01:54:54.159 --> 01:55:00.000 miners finding these ancient coins that were from ancient times 1791 01:55:00.479 --> 01:55:03.840 in history, where then they started to talking about the enoki. 1792 01:55:04.039 --> 01:55:05.880 You know, so I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 1793 01:55:05.880 --> 01:55:06.720 what's going on here? 1794 01:55:07.720 --> 01:55:13.600 The Sumerian tablet is the is the oldest text in 1795 01:55:13.920 --> 01:55:20.520 history of humanity. And you know, basically you can make 1796 01:55:20.560 --> 01:55:26.199 the comparisons with the Bible to the Anak's leaders, the 1797 01:55:26.279 --> 01:55:35.279 two brothers Ilil and Inky, and Anky was basically the 1798 01:55:35.600 --> 01:55:39.560 the the nicer of the two brothers that kind of 1799 01:55:40.359 --> 01:55:51.520 disclose to humanity. To Adam and Eve, the basic skills 1800 01:55:51.520 --> 01:55:54.720 that they would need to basically master at the same 1801 01:55:54.920 --> 01:55:59.960 level as the Onoki were, right, but the older brother 1802 01:56:00.039 --> 01:56:05.640 there and will didn't didn't feel that way. And who 1803 01:56:05.680 --> 01:56:11.880 ironically he got labeled as as the name Satan basically right, 1804 01:56:12.800 --> 01:56:16.279 he wants he wanted to control humanity, to uh make 1805 01:56:16.359 --> 01:56:21.159 humanity slaves. And I do believe that even today that 1806 01:56:21.239 --> 01:56:26.640 there's possibly the bloodline of the Onanaki and a connection 1807 01:56:26.760 --> 01:56:30.039 to the Rothschilds. And this is just you know, theory 1808 01:56:30.159 --> 01:56:33.439 right now, but eventually I will prove it. 1809 01:56:36.439 --> 01:56:41.359 Absolutely, William, I, I got to tell you what We're 1810 01:56:41.359 --> 01:56:43.119 going to come to a close here, but you know 1811 01:56:43.359 --> 01:56:46.760 this is something we I think we really need to 1812 01:56:46.800 --> 01:56:52.000 continue in discussion. I know you get into on your podcast. 1813 01:56:52.079 --> 01:56:54.520 I know you will do a lot of conspiracy theory 1814 01:56:54.680 --> 01:56:57.760 and going down the rabbit hole on a lot of 1815 01:56:57.800 --> 01:57:01.079 different topics. Perhaps I mean, it's totally a for you. 1816 01:57:01.199 --> 01:57:03.000 We could do this on your show, or we can 1817 01:57:03.079 --> 01:57:07.199 continue this online. But you know, there's a lot of 1818 01:57:07.199 --> 01:57:08.880 different things. I know, I know this is a big 1819 01:57:08.960 --> 01:57:11.520 foot podcast that we're on, and you know, we we 1820 01:57:11.680 --> 01:57:14.000 kind of went off topic a little bit, but I 1821 01:57:14.039 --> 01:57:17.680 love it. I personally, I don't know if the listeners 1822 01:57:17.720 --> 01:57:21.000 will enjoy this or appreciate this, but I hope they 1823 01:57:21.000 --> 01:57:24.920 do because I love I love the direction where we went. 1824 01:57:25.159 --> 01:57:27.560 It just comes down to knowledge, you know, and and 1825 01:57:27.680 --> 01:57:31.399 you know, knowledge is power, you know, and they've been 1826 01:57:31.399 --> 01:57:35.880 controlling our knowledge and limiting our power, you know, right, 1827 01:57:36.720 --> 01:57:40.760 and that that includes the cryptids and the paranormal activity. 1828 01:57:40.880 --> 01:57:48.800 So absolutely absolutely I'm gonna for a future next podcast 1829 01:57:50.079 --> 01:57:54.000 because yeah, I'm gonna do one more podcast and kind 1830 01:57:54.000 --> 01:57:55.479 of give it a break from the rest of the 1831 01:57:55.560 --> 01:57:57.600 month and then pick the pick it back up. But 1832 01:57:57.760 --> 01:57:59.600 I do want to try to plan something. I would 1833 01:57:59.600 --> 01:58:03.880 love to have you back for sure. Now, you know 1834 01:58:03.960 --> 01:58:06.000 one person who's I don't think he's ever been on 1835 01:58:06.039 --> 01:58:08.039 a podcast before, but I'm going to talk to him. 1836 01:58:08.119 --> 01:58:12.399 You know, our good friend, mister David Lester. I love him, 1837 01:58:13.800 --> 01:58:17.520 Oh my gosh. Yeah, he's him and Melissa are the twoest, 1838 01:58:17.560 --> 01:58:20.000 coolest people. I'm glad to have him is a part 1839 01:58:20.039 --> 01:58:24.439 of the team. You know, they are great to have 1840 01:58:24.520 --> 01:58:29.960 his friends, fellow researchers and and you know, and you know, 1841 01:58:30.159 --> 01:58:32.840 I'm talking to David even just sitting around the camp. 1842 01:58:32.960 --> 01:58:35.840 You know, David has a lot of information. He studies 1843 01:58:35.880 --> 01:58:38.600 it follows a lot of this stuff too. And uh, 1844 01:58:39.119 --> 01:58:42.399 I know he's got a lot of information. So with 1845 01:58:42.520 --> 01:58:44.359 that being said, I'm going to talk to him and 1846 01:58:44.399 --> 01:58:47.119 see if I can get him on here. See, I 1847 01:58:47.359 --> 01:58:49.880 don't know what his work schedule is for tomorrow night, 1848 01:58:50.039 --> 01:58:53.239 but I'd love to have him on again. I don't 1849 01:58:53.239 --> 01:58:55.760 know what if your schedule will allow it, but would 1850 01:58:55.800 --> 01:58:58.159 you be willing to jump on again for Friday night? 1851 01:59:00.000 --> 01:59:03.560 Well, I could try. I have a podcast I do 1852 01:59:03.600 --> 01:59:07.000 at at eleven o'clock in the evening on Eastern time. 1853 01:59:08.000 --> 01:59:10.560 Oh okay, okay, Well, well, I mean we could start 1854 01:59:10.600 --> 01:59:13.319 earlier like we did tonight. We start around seven pm, 1855 01:59:13.560 --> 01:59:15.319 you know, and then kind of go, you know, we 1856 01:59:15.319 --> 01:59:17.119 could run for an hour, hour and a half and 1857 01:59:17.159 --> 01:59:19.479 then that way you'll have me, you know, hopefully get 1858 01:59:19.520 --> 01:59:21.000 a break before you start yours. 1859 01:59:21.279 --> 01:59:24.359 So yeah, fine, yeah. 1860 01:59:24.079 --> 01:59:26.640 Okay, so I'm gonna I'm gonna reach out to David 1861 01:59:26.680 --> 01:59:28.560 see if you would be willing to jump on and 1862 01:59:28.840 --> 01:59:31.119 the three of us get in and on there and 1863 01:59:31.239 --> 01:59:33.520 you know, kind of taking off from there and we'll 1864 01:59:33.560 --> 01:59:35.880 start off doing the Bigfoot talk and kind of getting 1865 01:59:35.880 --> 01:59:37.520 in from there, you know, because I always like to 1866 01:59:37.600 --> 01:59:39.640 keep this big foot, you know, as much as possible. 1867 01:59:39.760 --> 01:59:44.880 So well, and brother's been a part of my life 1868 01:59:44.960 --> 01:59:50.720 for a long time. Man. So absolutely, I definitely I 1869 01:59:51.039 --> 01:59:53.800 could talk about that subject all the time. 1870 01:59:53.920 --> 01:59:57.520 So oh for sure. Oh yeah, me too. Absolutely, there's 1871 01:59:57.520 --> 02:00:02.359 so much. There's so much, h uh, I mean, topics 1872 02:00:02.399 --> 02:00:06.720 involving you know, sasquatch, big pot and in between. You know. 1873 02:00:07.520 --> 02:00:11.079 But like what happened with us tonight, you know, we 1874 02:00:11.239 --> 02:00:13.760 kind of we kind of started branching off a little bit, 1875 02:00:13.800 --> 02:00:17.199 which I loved it. I Mean, I maybe our listening 1876 02:00:17.279 --> 02:00:20.800 to the listeners might feel different, I don't know, but you know, 1877 02:00:20.920 --> 02:00:24.840 if there's anyone that loves to hear conspiracy theories and 1878 02:00:24.840 --> 02:00:28.960 and hearing everything in between, I mean, I'm sure those 1879 02:00:29.039 --> 02:00:31.800 there's there's those out there that do appreciate it. 1880 02:00:31.840 --> 02:00:36.560 So check out Nighthawk Ives Strange, this podcast channel on 1881 02:00:36.600 --> 02:00:41.399 YouTube then and Facebook, and uh, you know, if they want, 1882 02:00:41.479 --> 02:00:44.760 if you want conspiracy theories and you like talking about 1883 02:00:44.760 --> 02:00:47.119 all types of cryptis and stuff, that's what we do. 1884 02:00:47.640 --> 02:00:50.359 So and and that's why I like talking with you, Daniel, 1885 02:00:50.439 --> 02:00:54.720 because you're a brother to me. And uh yeah, we 1886 02:00:54.840 --> 02:00:58.399 uh we meant under under times when I was having 1887 02:00:58.439 --> 02:01:01.720 a really really hard hard time with the cancer, and 1888 02:01:02.680 --> 02:01:07.119 you know, you befriended me in a way that impressed 1889 02:01:07.159 --> 02:01:11.600 me to basically consider you family and your dad, so 1890 02:01:11.880 --> 02:01:14.399 and David and Melissa, and it just went from there 1891 02:01:14.439 --> 02:01:18.279 and now it's Ron and and everybody too. So you know, 1892 02:01:18.319 --> 02:01:20.159 I love you all very much and I think the 1893 02:01:20.199 --> 02:01:22.439 world of you, and I will always be here for 1894 02:01:22.520 --> 02:01:22.960 you guys. 1895 02:01:24.039 --> 02:01:28.399 Absolutely. Oh that reminds me. Dad wanted me to make 1896 02:01:28.439 --> 02:01:31.119 sure I said hello. He wanted me to tell you hello. 1897 02:01:32.800 --> 02:01:33.600 Yeah, you tell him. 1898 02:01:33.600 --> 02:01:34.119 I said hello. 1899 02:01:34.920 --> 02:01:36.880 I can't wait to talk to him again at the 1900 02:01:37.399 --> 02:01:38.279 event in June. 1901 02:01:39.039 --> 02:01:42.239 Absolutely. Yeah, he's looking at He missed you the last year. 1902 02:01:42.319 --> 02:01:45.239 He didn't. Mom made it up there, but Dad wasn't 1903 02:01:45.239 --> 02:01:47.279 able to make it up there. But he plans on 1904 02:01:47.560 --> 02:01:51.079 making sure he makes his presidence known. He wants to 1905 02:01:51.079 --> 02:01:58.520 see you again. Good good. Yeah, absolutely, uh, and then 1906 02:01:58.640 --> 02:02:00.920 there's gonna be other talks. Hopefully you can make it 1907 02:02:01.000 --> 02:02:04.000 to our our main group camp out, because I mean 1908 02:02:04.039 --> 02:02:06.439 that's very special to all of us, and we're going 1909 02:02:06.520 --> 02:02:10.520 to be doing some special filling during that event. Hopefully 1910 02:02:10.600 --> 02:02:13.560 your you know, your health is up for it. You know, 1911 02:02:14.319 --> 02:02:15.680 even if you can come up there for just a 1912 02:02:15.760 --> 02:02:17.680 couple of days, I mean that'd be great, you know. 1913 02:02:18.199 --> 02:02:24.199 So we'll see. Because I've been I've been you know, 1914 02:02:24.359 --> 02:02:27.760 trying to walk more, but you know, obviously with the 1915 02:02:27.800 --> 02:02:30.840 snowfall that we got lately and the high winds, i 1916 02:02:30.880 --> 02:02:34.239 haven't been getting out as much. But I'm slowly going 1917 02:02:34.279 --> 02:02:36.760 to build myself back up to to where I can 1918 02:02:36.760 --> 02:02:38.600 get out there in the springtime again. 1919 02:02:38.760 --> 02:02:44.159 So right, absolutely absolutely. Because of the location where we're 1920 02:02:44.159 --> 02:02:46.119 going to camp at, like I said, it's a very 1921 02:02:46.159 --> 02:02:50.680 special location, you know, Like I tell people, for those 1922 02:02:50.680 --> 02:02:55.119 who I mentioned, I don't mention the specific location publicly 1923 02:02:56.000 --> 02:02:58.119 for those only for those who want to come out 1924 02:02:58.119 --> 02:03:02.039 there and be a part of the event, because you 1925 02:03:02.119 --> 02:03:05.119 won't find the reports that we know about that location 1926 02:03:05.359 --> 02:03:09.239 through the v f R. It's I've heard I myself. 1927 02:03:09.399 --> 02:03:13.439 I know David's heard things but I've gotten reports from 1928 02:03:13.439 --> 02:03:16.720 this location. It's a very special active area with a 1929 02:03:16.760 --> 02:03:22.000 lot of history and reports both bigfoot, even mountain lions. Uh. 1930 02:03:22.199 --> 02:03:24.079 You know, and for those who don't believe that we 1931 02:03:24.079 --> 02:03:26.560 have mountain lions in Virginia, you have something to really 1932 02:03:26.640 --> 02:03:29.720 learn about, you know, because this area. 1933 02:03:29.479 --> 02:03:33.199 Yeah, that's the other thing too that they don't tell you. Now, 1934 02:03:33.319 --> 02:03:37.720 they've released wolves, They've released yes, you know, elk and 1935 02:03:37.760 --> 02:03:42.279 all kinds of stuff. So this area is thriving with wildlife, 1936 02:03:42.319 --> 02:03:46.600 you know, just oh yeah, so yeah, I mean we've 1937 02:03:46.640 --> 02:03:49.239 got mountain lions too. I guarantee that we've seen them here. 1938 02:03:50.000 --> 02:03:54.279 I mean we got I personally have evidence of wolves 1939 02:03:54.319 --> 02:03:56.239 here in Virginia. Not only did I see what I 1940 02:03:56.359 --> 02:03:58.960 believed to be a wolf's chasing a deer, I have 1941 02:03:59.239 --> 02:04:05.840 actually a image a picture of a well, the wolf. 1942 02:04:06.279 --> 02:04:10.920 It was a red wolf. It was over eighty pounds. Actually, 1943 02:04:11.000 --> 02:04:13.960 it was shared to my parents when they were they 1944 02:04:14.039 --> 02:04:20.840 met this lady over in Uva in the waiting room. Well, 1945 02:04:20.880 --> 02:04:24.000 the lady shared a picture. It was her husband. He 1946 02:04:24.199 --> 02:04:27.600 has a red wolf that he's holding up in his hands. 1947 02:04:27.920 --> 02:04:30.439 He shot and killed because it was getting into their livestock, 1948 02:04:31.520 --> 02:04:35.039 which is actually just east of where I live and 1949 02:04:35.359 --> 02:04:39.399 over on the other side of the mountain. But I've 1950 02:04:39.600 --> 02:04:43.000 seen what I believed to be a wolf chasing a deer. 1951 02:04:43.199 --> 02:04:45.720 That was some that was That was several years ago. 1952 02:04:45.760 --> 02:04:49.319 But I have no doubt that we have wolves here 1953 02:04:49.359 --> 02:04:52.520 in Virginia. Uh, you know, red wolf. If there's any 1954 02:04:52.560 --> 02:04:55.880 other species, I'm not sure, but red wolf. And you know, 1955 02:04:56.159 --> 02:04:58.479 people that want don't want to believe that, I suggest 1956 02:04:58.520 --> 02:05:00.520 to do your little bit of a research and history 1957 02:05:00.520 --> 02:05:02.840 on that. There's a lot of the wolf migration came 1958 02:05:02.880 --> 02:05:04.880 from up north, and a lot of them are believed 1959 02:05:04.880 --> 02:05:07.960 to be down here anyway, but we have evidence of 1960 02:05:08.399 --> 02:05:11.600 their existence here. You know. Same thing with mountain lions. 1961 02:05:12.319 --> 02:05:15.359 That's a whole different topic. I've witnessed one and and 1962 02:05:16.000 --> 02:05:19.760 I've had so many responses to my blog posts that 1963 02:05:19.800 --> 02:05:22.199 I put out there some years ago. There's a lot 1964 02:05:22.199 --> 02:05:23.800 of eye witnesses to mountain lions. 1965 02:05:24.000 --> 02:05:26.319 So you know, there's there's a lot of there's a 1966 02:05:26.319 --> 02:05:29.119 lot of sightings too of like the black panthers, black 1967 02:05:29.239 --> 02:05:31.800 cats and stuff, big cats like mountain lions. 1968 02:05:31.840 --> 02:05:35.760 Oh yes, well, I kind of I kind of chalk 1969 02:05:35.880 --> 02:05:40.159 that up to the uh, the influx of the Canadian 1970 02:05:40.199 --> 02:05:43.960 black links coming down here, because you know they're a 1971 02:05:44.000 --> 02:05:47.560 big cat and that would be missing thrued as a 1972 02:05:47.560 --> 02:05:49.520 as a black panther, that's for sure. 1973 02:05:50.680 --> 02:05:54.159 Right, Which I understand that because I'm a witness to 1974 02:05:54.279 --> 02:05:57.640 seeing a mountain lion, which I would declare what I've 1975 02:05:57.680 --> 02:06:01.600 seen in twenty fifteen in the same ear just outside 1976 02:06:01.600 --> 02:06:05.239 of where I had my big front encounter. Uh there was. 1977 02:06:05.720 --> 02:06:09.119 I actually had another individual with me, he witnessed it 1978 02:06:09.159 --> 02:06:12.359 with me. But in twenty fifteen, the same year I 1979 02:06:12.399 --> 02:06:16.239 had won my second encounter. Well during the broad broad 1980 02:06:16.279 --> 02:06:19.359 daylight right outside the entrance of the lake, we've seen 1981 02:06:19.479 --> 02:06:23.279 a black panther. Now, it didn't start off as I 1982 02:06:23.319 --> 02:06:25.399 didn't know what the heck I was seeing until it 1983 02:06:25.520 --> 02:06:28.520 actually got up on all fours across the road and 1984 02:06:28.560 --> 02:06:31.359 you see that long tale dragon behind it. Yep. 1985 02:06:32.720 --> 02:06:36.159 Ye, So well, I don't want to keep you any longer, brother, So. 1986 02:06:37.159 --> 02:06:40.239 Oh, no problem, no problem. We will be back on this. Yeah, 1987 02:06:40.319 --> 02:06:42.560 we'll be in touch if you could do this tomorrow 1988 02:06:42.680 --> 02:06:44.880 night at seven pm. I'm going to try to get 1989 02:06:45.279 --> 02:06:48.720 David with us, or maybe possibly another individual, but David's 1990 02:06:48.720 --> 02:06:50.079 for sure if he's. 1991 02:06:49.960 --> 02:06:52.800 Not occupied, So right, sounds good. 1992 02:06:53.680 --> 02:06:56.119 All right, Hey, thank you very much, William. It's been 1993 02:06:56.159 --> 02:07:00.399 great having you. And yes, let's shoot for set seven 1994 02:07:00.479 --> 02:07:01.760 pm Friday night. 1995 02:07:02.359 --> 02:07:04.359 All right, brother, I'll talk to you then. 1996 02:07:05.079 --> 02:07:06.680 All right, I have a good night, man. Thank you 1997 02:07:06.760 --> 02:07:07.199 very much. 1998 02:07:07.439 --> 02:07:11.359 Ye, thank you everybody absolutely. 1999 02:07:11.000 --> 02:07:15.079 DCBRO Bigfoot Radio fans, it's time to grab your pens, 2000 02:07:15.479 --> 02:07:18.359 your calendars and start writing down these dates for these 2001 02:07:18.439 --> 02:07:22.600 upcoming events. In the twenty twenty five year, February eighth, 2002 02:07:22.680 --> 02:07:25.840 the ECBRO is hosting a big Foot in Lunch gathering 2003 02:07:26.319 --> 02:07:31.039 in Lexington, Virginia, happening at the Legendary Eats Cafe. If 2004 02:07:31.079 --> 02:07:33.000 you have a big Foot story, or if you're just 2005 02:07:33.039 --> 02:07:34.880 a fan of Bigfoot and you want to learn what's 2006 02:07:34.880 --> 02:07:37.920 going on with the ECBRO and I know who they 2007 02:07:37.920 --> 02:07:41.000 are and what they do, this event's for you. It's 2008 02:07:41.039 --> 02:07:43.279 a free event. The only thing is going to cost 2009 02:07:43.359 --> 02:07:45.960 you if you want to buy off the menu and 2010 02:07:46.079 --> 02:07:51.000 enjoy a delicious meal while you sit among other researchers. 2011 02:07:51.880 --> 02:07:52.159 All right. 2012 02:07:52.239 --> 02:07:54.560 Moving ahead in the month of March, March twenty nine 2013 02:07:54.680 --> 02:07:57.760 is the penn Ohio parn olmal Cohn and happening at 2014 02:07:57.800 --> 02:08:02.439 the Timomy Biqut Center and Creable, Ohio. Yes, that is 2015 02:08:02.520 --> 02:08:07.560 also sponsored and hosted by mister Bill Ragby. All Right, 2016 02:08:07.640 --> 02:08:11.399 jumping ahead into the month of June, Boy, do we 2017 02:08:11.479 --> 02:08:15.439 have some awesome stuff going on in June again. I 2018 02:08:15.520 --> 02:08:18.359 hope you're marking this down and I hope you prepare 2019 02:08:18.399 --> 02:08:23.199 yourself to attend these events. June sixth, seventh, and eighth 2020 02:08:24.079 --> 02:08:30.039 Happening in Marionville, Pennsylvania, the Forest County Bigfoot Festival. The 2021 02:08:30.159 --> 02:08:34.960 event that's grown so huge it's unbelievable. You're going to 2022 02:08:35.000 --> 02:08:38.920 want to attend this event. Over one hundred vendors, food trucks, 2023 02:08:39.640 --> 02:08:43.960 and guest speakers. This event is something you want to attend. 2024 02:08:44.479 --> 02:08:47.119 Not to mention if you'd like to go squatching. There 2025 02:08:47.239 --> 02:08:50.600 is the alleganty National State Forest nearby. You're going to 2026 02:08:50.640 --> 02:08:54.840 want to check that forest out. It's very squatching. June 2027 02:08:56.159 --> 02:09:01.000 twentyth and twenty first happening in Where's Cane, Virginia at 2028 02:09:01.000 --> 02:09:06.159 the Where's Hay Community Center is the annual ECBRO Virginia 2029 02:09:06.199 --> 02:09:09.000 big Foot Conference. Yes, it's right there, being held at 2030 02:09:09.000 --> 02:09:12.800 the Community Center and Where's Cay, Virginia. Both indoor and 2031 02:09:12.840 --> 02:09:17.960 outdoor vendors, guest speakers, fun activity, and contest for the kids. 2032 02:09:18.399 --> 02:09:20.119 You're gonna want to check this out. If you've never 2033 02:09:20.159 --> 02:09:22.800 been to this event, it's very fun. You get to 2034 02:09:22.800 --> 02:09:25.560 meet up with other light minded people, get to go 2035 02:09:25.640 --> 02:09:27.720 out and hang out with them in the evenings around 2036 02:09:27.720 --> 02:09:30.680 them fire if you're if you get that special invite, 2037 02:09:30.720 --> 02:09:32.840 you get to have a lot more. You're gonna want 2038 02:09:32.840 --> 02:09:34.680 to check that out and start becoming a part of 2039 02:09:34.680 --> 02:09:37.560 that event, because that is not just in an event, 2040 02:09:38.319 --> 02:09:42.079 it's like a family gathering. That's June twentieth and twenty first, 2041 02:09:42.279 --> 02:09:46.239 so feel free to check that out and ladies and gentlemen. 2042 02:09:47.119 --> 02:09:52.159 Happening in the month of June. Also June twenty sixth, 2043 02:09:52.159 --> 02:09:55.840 twenty seventh, and twenty eighth, happening in Sutton, West Virginia, 2044 02:09:56.680 --> 02:10:02.239 is the annual Western Virginia Bigfoot Festival. Another massive, huge 2045 02:10:02.520 --> 02:10:06.159 festival with over one hundred of vendors, all kinds of 2046 02:10:06.159 --> 02:10:09.960 activity and fun and contests for kids and people of 2047 02:10:10.000 --> 02:10:14.479 all ages, guest speakers, celebrities, people you're gonna want to 2048 02:10:14.479 --> 02:10:16.880 get to know and get to meet and learn rome 2049 02:10:17.479 --> 02:10:19.000 ladies and gentlemen. 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