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Speaker 1: You're listening to Cougar Sports with Ben Krettl, and it's

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time for Crewing the Cougars and inside look at the

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latest news on the recruiting trail surrounding Cougar athletics.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Couger Sports here on one O three nine.

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On you there, Ronald three man.

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Speaker 3: We were here holding down for a second for being credal.

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Speaker 4: We are going to get out too the hotlines momentarily. Oh,

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Banker's back, I'm gonna turn it back over to him.

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Mike's Hobin.

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Speaker 5: Alrighty guys, let's get into this cruit and the Cougars segment.

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And I can't wait to talk some two thousand and

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twenty six recruiting class here on your Utah ESPN Radio

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Network with Cougar Sports Insider, Recruiting Insider Moose Bingham, former

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BUYU kicker, punter, special team or Extraordinair Moose.

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Speaker 4: How you living, buddy, Ben?

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Speaker 2: I am hein. I actually just got tickets for the

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up Turt Bowl. I'll be going there for a good

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old fob. Can't wait to see Cougar Nation in the

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second best state in the Union.

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Speaker 5: Well, hey, you're living in Tampa now, right, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm only in an our hour fifteen from Orlando. I

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might go see Rider Lions. Tell them what's up? Go cat?

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Speaker 5: Oh my, how many times have you got over to

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like Universal Studios in Disney World since you moved there

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to Tampa.

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Speaker 2: I was just there with my family over Thanksgiving. But

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I don't go there very often. I get motion sickness

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because I'm an old man. Now, Ben, I don't even

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ride the rides, but I have a glorious time there

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nonetheless love it.

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Speaker 5: Man, Well, I'm glad you're doing well. Look I'll tell

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you who's doing well right now. Colodia taking these BYU

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Cougar football team, this Bo Cougar football team and players.

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They just signed a top twenty one class in the

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college ball. This is the best class recruiting class in

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bya football history. I want to break it all down

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with you.

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Speaker 4: Number one. What's that hey man.

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Speaker 2: Treats about it? It's the best class about twenty rankings.

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My goodness, I'm hyped about this class.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you like about it? Specifically? What do

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you make of the twenty twenty six commitment list?

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Speaker 2: Well, right now, you look at the twenty five class,

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our top signing from the twenty five class what have

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been probably about number seven or eighth in this class.

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That's the depths up top, which is absolutely nuts. And

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then you start getting into the weeds of this class.

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I mean, I like the bottom players. Devon Eka is

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a stut but you get all the way to the

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top rider Lions. We haven't had a quarterback like Listen

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Ben Olsen. Let's freaking go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean Lucy tom wy Peer who played started produced.

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Speaker 4: As a true freshman this year.

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Speaker 5: It was a fifty ninth rated overall class and we

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saw what Doocy did. You can also add, you know,

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the the transfer portal players I guess to the to

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the list tel Celia Khanna ended up being a good

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player for the Kougs. You combine all that, you're like, man,

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well this the future is bright for BYU.

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Speaker 2: Well look at what Colonie is doing. The current roster

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is ranked between sixty and eighty, depending on what fight

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you go after. With a roster like that, it's a

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good roster, but it's not an NFL caliber roster. Signing

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classes in the top twenty five that brings us an

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NFL caliber type roster, where if you're signing guys in

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the top two fifty. Those are guys that are projected

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to the NFL draft picks, and we have about six

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or seven of them just from this class.

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Speaker 5: Crazy times, man, you have Rider, Lions, Botmoltalo, Brock, Harris,

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Adam Bywater, Tygetchi, all four stars, Jerem Poula, Lopetti, Muala,

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Kennan Pula. I don't know if By's had every of

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these many four stars in a signing class. Who's your favorite?

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Frost and why oh.

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Speaker 2: You're asked me to pick my favorite child? Day have Ben?

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I love him all equally, But my goodness, there's some

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absolute star. It's like, let's talk about writer. Writer should

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be a five star quarterback. He was robbed. He's an

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absolute dog wolf wolf when you see him on the field,

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bob let Metallo. When he switched to tackle, I said,

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that's a horrible mistake. Then I watched him the first day,

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I'm like, what a genius? Whoever told him to move?

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leaps and bounds throughout the season. But I still love

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him at three tech Rock Harris, he is massively under raked,

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just disgustingly so he's rated an eighth in his position. No,

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that kid should be number one. He's an absolute dude.

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Adam Bywater was an absolute star, and when I watch Adam,

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I'm like, this kid is the true ty. I haven't

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his potential. He can block. He's just like Brock. I

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mean he's almost a twin. And then right below them

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you have actual twins in Jaron and Kennan Gula. Those

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kids are two of my favorites. I've been watching them

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since their freshman year. Loved their family, Kirson Pula, all

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of them are awesome. And then we get Repeitie Malala

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in there, Repeiti Juny. He's an absolute dog Juny. He

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took over games where they're like, oh, you only had

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three sacks, and I'm like, I was watching the game

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and whoever's doing stats at Orum is doing it long.

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The kid had like six sacks a game. I mean,

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he's one of the kids. I had an NFL scout

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called me and said, who should I be watching at Orum?

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And like, watch Judy because that Milala kid is going

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to be an absolute force on the defensive line. I

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love Jack Tanner he's a dude. He reminds me a

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lot of Jackson powers Johnson, which is the highest compliment

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I can give to any interior alignment. I mean, he's

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a kid that can lock down forever. The receiver from Washington,

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Terrence Sariak, that kid is amazing. You get Braston Linsley

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where you're getting him away from SEC schools, getting an

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Arkansas kid like that. Kalawaey Aconna was a four star,

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got dropped down to a three star. I need to

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question some of these rating systems because I think they

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might be blind, because kalaway Acona might have the most

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NFL potential when we get him to his natural position

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of safety or linebacker, I don't know where he's gonna

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end up. Collway is an absolute force and he would

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have been one of the top five recruits in almost

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any class, and we would have been over the moon

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to get them. Legend Glass. You watch him receiver extraordinari

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He runs a four to four. He says he's six

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to one. Yeah, coming out of high school. I was

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six to though. I don't know if he's six one,

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but he's an absolute force there. Matthew Mason, I actually

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they're a breakdown of Matthew Mason going into the season

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before he committed to BYU, And I'm like, this is

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a hitting gym right here. Graham Livingston there hasn't been

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as a productive or receiver in the state possibly ever,

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and he did it in less games. Graham Livingston is

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the absolute truth, Harper or another tight end that you

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can just throw into the fray that you love. Stefani

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Antonio Johnson like him at corner six three and a half.

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I mean, where do you fight in these giants playing corner?

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Another d lineman in Cologne, NAHMANI I love that kid.

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Speaker 3: So that's a lot.

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Speaker 2: But Justice is a stud coming out of Higley in Gilbert, Arizona.

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And then sign me back down to the VAUG. Definitely

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solid class from top to bottom. When you're lowest rate

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is a three star eighty four, You're just like, Okay,

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this class is stacked.

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Speaker 4: It's truly a great day to be a Cougar.

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Speaker 5: Look, I was listening to Brian Santiago recently, and and

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you know, one of the things that he.

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Speaker 4: Discussed was investing.

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Speaker 5: In in the future of BYU and investing in these

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student athletes that can enter to learn and then go

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forth to serve. You bring in high level talent, high

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level kids that are going to ball out on the

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field and also off the field, and I think, you know,

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anything is possible. I think the board of trustees, I

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feel like the byus An institution. Obviously the athletic department

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has been bought in, but I feel like everybody else

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is getting bought in now with the foundational why behind

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everything we do, and there's better alignment now than ever,

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the alignment of the silos that I've been preaching from

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my hope it is fondly coming to fruition.

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Speaker 2: I believe you're correct, and I haven't said that like

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ever since I've been looking at the YU. But it

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seems like everyone's like, Hey, when we have a good

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football program, good things happen all throughout campus. Why not

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invest in the football program, invest in the basketball program,

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invest in athletics so that we can actually get things

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done and make BYU cool again.

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Speaker 5: Well, we're on the trend right now towards that. We

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got Moose Bingham here on your Utah. ESPN ready to

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network a little Crewton the Cougars segment and delving into

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all the knicks and crimes of this twenty twenty six

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class as b what you football prepares for their pop

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tards bawl the best ball outside of the CFP. It's

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the it's a nice consolation prize. Noeubt about it. But

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you look at BYU season, these back to back seasons,

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and it's it's it's the glory days. Now you look

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at twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, there's

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a little drop off in twenty twenty three, but then

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we got back into prominence the last two years. What

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Kalani has able to accomplish since twenty twenty is nothing

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short of remarkable.

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Speaker 4: It truly is the.

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Speaker 5: Glory days that our forefathers talked about in the modern era.

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Speaker 2: It absolutely is. And what you see from these guys

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they completely believe in themselves. This isn't an NFL roster

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by any stretch of the imagination, but Lani's preaching of

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love has really dictated one score games. When these guys

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get behind of two scores, they're like, it doesn't matter,

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We're gonna come back and win. The belief in that

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locker room is absolutely phenomenal, and it's just fun to

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watch them really outform where they're at. I mean, this

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is a team where you're like, I I love watching

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these guys. They put forth a ton of effort and

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they really have gone above and beyond reflect who their

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head coaches on the field, and it's fun to see

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what this twenty twenty five roster has done.

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Speaker 5: Ronald at the end of the day, right, you're gonna

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look at all these prospects as they come into BYU

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and you hope that bay you can retain them all.

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I look at last year's class, Lemson Waller is in

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the transfer portal, but it looks like for the most part,

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everybody else, Actually Cale Breslin went to Montana State.

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Speaker 4: If I'm not mistaken, I.

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Speaker 5: Think everybody else is still committed, still bought it.

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Speaker 4: So you have a little bit of attrition.

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Speaker 5: Does BYU experience less attrition than most schools? And is

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there anybody that you could compare BYU two? As it pretension,

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they may maybe their retention of their recruiting classes under Lane.

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Speaker 2: This is an interesting question. It used to be Stanford

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had incredible retention, but it was because they couldn't take

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any transfers in any mid year enroll ease, so they

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were very selective about who they brought in. With BYU,

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they create such an amazing environment from the teachers, to

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the student body to the coaches, that kids just don't

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want to leave. And most of the time they not

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forced out. A lot of schools that's take a few

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kids force out the rest, but by he does a

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great job getting kids to graduate, helping them all throughout life,

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and even if they don't make it through forever and ever,

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it's a different atmosphere and I love what they're doing

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and how they're developing kids. You even look back to

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twenty twenty four, you're seeing volatile thoughts, wall of really

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coming into his own. You're seeing a lot of these

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guys where you're like Trey Anderson or Alexander Sorry, he

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is an absolute force. You're watching Kenny Lyttle come into

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different kids contributing, and I love to see that they

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you will be successful. I can tell you that right now.

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Speaker 5: It's intriguing time, no doubt in BAU football history b YU.

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players that play to BYU and are seeing what we're

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Speaker 4: We're a great team, Okay.

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Speaker 5: How far away are they from becoming an elite team

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Speaker 4: You would you say?

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Speaker 5: Because from a point total, standpoint competition standpoint right, it

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seems as if you know by you still far away

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from closing that gap.

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Speaker 4: What say you?

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Speaker 2: I would actually have to agree. I don't need to

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be a bearer of that news. But BYU has honestly

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like a seventy roster when you look at the talent gap.

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the country based off of stars, based off of stats.

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to have a roster that's at least top thirty. And

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this first class in twenty twenty six is really starting

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to change the way that it's seem because last year

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our overall rank was fifty nine. The year before that,

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when you're looking into twenty twenty four, it was sixty two.

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So we still have a lot of those guys. Some

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of them have really stepped it up, but it takes

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a minute to be there to really get to the

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roster that you need. And I think Justin Anderson is

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really stepping it up now. And he's been in the

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program for the last couple of years, but this is

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the first told class where he's been recruiting kids since

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they were sophomores freshmen and bringing them in and really

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loving them up with that amount of time and making

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sure that they come to BYU.

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Couple last things before I let you go, I look

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back at the twoenty and twenty signing class. Okay, body

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schoonover Cody Apps, Tate Romney, Logan Peeley, Alex Mouti, as Kowfusi,

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Michael Harper, Josh Wilson, Devin Downing, Preston Rex Sol, Jamiava Peters,

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Isaiah Perez, Miles Davis, Josh Larson, Nu Kuhlou ahlu CoA Eldridge,

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Jake Griffin, Chris Jackson, Terrence Fall, Dean Jones, p D two,

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Polo two, John Nelson, Jock Wilson, uh tyber Kinkleuropat Shone, Moa,

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Isaiah Tupo, Tuapolo to Lai, Bruce Garrett, Drason havea Sittalingijvea

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and then DeVante Henry Cole. You look at that, it's

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like that crazy like how how crazy like? Look at

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how far boy has come? Look Askafusi is still on

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the roster, Boddy screwed over. Both of those guys are contributor.

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Cody Apps ended up transferring and then essentially retiring. Tate Romney.

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I think he's still at a SU right. I don't

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know how much he's playing in a Okay, he opted

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in the portal, how I have to pull up his stats.

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I don't know how good he was last year for

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a issue. Logan Peeley ended up transferring to Utah State.

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Alex Moutie I don't know whatever happened to Alex. Michael

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Harper's at Montana's Montana. I think University of Montana. Josh

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Wilson ended up kind of retiring. I think medically retiring,

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or maybe he graduated after his career was done. Devin

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Downing is at Utah Tech. Preston Rex still at BYU.

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He's in the running back room now is a RB

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three sol Jiamiava Peters ended up transferring to New Mexico.

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Isaiah Perez I think went to Eastern Washington transfer. Miles

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Davis transferred to Utah State. Josh Larson I think medically retired.

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Nu Koluvihilu ended up in the portal, but I don't

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know if he ended up anywhere. CoA Eldridge I believe

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is he at University of Hawaii. Co Eldridge, Okay. Jake

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Griffin's in the portal. Chris Jackson I think graduated or

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into the portal and never got back. I think he

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was at University of Hawaii as well, though. Terrence fall

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I think medically retired. Dean Jones went to Northern Colorado.

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If I'm not mistaken, Pete, he's still on the roster.

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I think he's still on the bou roster, still working

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his way. John Nelson was great John Nelson. You can

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make an argument John Nelson so far in this class,

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the best player in this class. Body Scooover's got something

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to say about it. But my guy John Nelson, the

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Salem Sandman, who was like ranked like twentieth on the

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twenty four to seven Sports rankings, Kay was maybe the

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best guy in this class. Jock Wilson got injured, never

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really played ty ber Is Ti where he retired went

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the portal. I don't know if he ended up anywhere.

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Henklew Apati obviously a good play for Buyu yep Shoni

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Speaker 4: That's gonna be a good one of it.

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Speaker 5: He was ranked like last. He didn't even have any stars.

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Uh Isaiah two pole. I don't know where Isaiah went.

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Bruce Garrett like quit after like three practices at by

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you running back out of Pleasant Grove, Texas. Drason Havevea,

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I don't think he ever really played at Buyu. DeVante

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that's crazy how much attrition is from that twenty twenty

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signing class when I go through that, and that was

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overall ranked eighty first in the concept by the way.

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Speaker 2: And that's a hard class because you're pulling up the

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COVID year, so you're just like, can we really evaluate

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these kids where they at? And that's what's really hard.

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But that's the thing with that year. There were a

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lethora of misses where you're just like, oh, no, what

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has happened here? Because we need to not be eighty

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We need to be a quarter of that at a

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composite rate of twenty to be a really successful team.

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And the sad thing is you see these kids that

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hop in the portal. None of them are really going

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to other big time programs beside like Tate Romney. Yep,

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You're like, okay, where these guys valued at at the

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end of the day, And they're not valued high in

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recruiting circles. They're going to lower G five teams or

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FCS teams. So this whole class was probably a miss

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in my mind, but it's definitely gotten better in the

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last few years. I mean, like the twenty twenty one

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class you hopped up almost twenty spots when you got

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Logan Foto Raiders of Moody, John Henry Daily guys that

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are absolute contributors and absolute dudes. But then it took

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a steep drop. You had Idiah Glasker in that class.

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That's obviously amazing. Josh Sink hopped in the portal and

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went to Vanderbilt and is playing really well. You still

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have other guys in there where you're like, okay, these

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are absolute dudes. Well, that's kind of the hard thing

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where it's like you don't want to be in the

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portal too much. You want to develop the high school kids,

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and you can only develop them if there's some talent

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in there and they just wasn't talent in the early

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twenty twenty classes.

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Speaker 5: Crazy times, Moose Bingham Ladies and gentlemen, Moose. Best way

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to support you, what you do.

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Speaker 4: How you do it?

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Speaker 2: Oh, just follow me on Twitter at MOOSB nine. I

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still have recruiting for parents out. If you think your

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kid is good enough, let's get him rated, Let's see

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where he's at and see if he can help DYU

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get into that immortal status of a top twenty recruiting class.

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Speaker 5: Love it most who always appreciate your time, man, great

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content as always.

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Speaker 2: Oh appreciate you, Ben, have a merry Christmas and hopefully

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you get out into the palmp tarts full so you

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can come golf and with me and Ronald Weaver.

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Speaker 3: What's some goods.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well.

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Speaker 5: Merry Christmas, Hey, Merry Christmas, Happy holidays. And uh Man,

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were talking with uh with k Y after the win

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over UC Riverside and he mentioned that the trip out

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to MSG in New York was exhausted.

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Speaker 4: That road trick was pretty tough. How how tough was

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it for you, oh man?

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Speaker 3: Well, I went straight from the Big twelve title game

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in Arlington rights in New York, so I was gone

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for a week. My wife had finals and I missed

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her entire finals week and came home like she picked

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me up from the airport straight from her last final.

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So I think I win the absence tee husband of

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the Year award. But it was fun, man, it was

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a New York is New York's a frill. I mean,

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I'm an East Coast guy, so kind of like being

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back to my element ate. A lot of good pizza.

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Had some good food in Texas too, And I'm just

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happy that the New York trip was a bit happier

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in the end than the Arlington trip was. And the

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Cougar's got to win, no.

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Speaker 4: Doubt about it was.

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Speaker 5: It was great to see DYU basketball get an awesome

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win and just a tremendous performance in the second half

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from AJ and the BA men's basketball team. We're trending

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once again to experiencing one of an iconic season when

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you combined BYU football and BYU basketball. Last year eleven

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and two went over the Colorado Buffs and an alible

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Bowl win. It was was fantastic, It was awesome and

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then a sweet sixteen run and we considered that probably

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one of the best seasons, one of the best years

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in BYU athletics history.

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Speaker 4: Are we about to top that this year? Jackson?

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's got it.

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Speaker 3: They got a toping, right. I mean last year there

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was the disappointment of not making the big twelfth title game.

468
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,359
Like DYU lost two games this year in football, and

469
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,240
both of them or the top five teams, and in

470
00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:03,880
Texas Tech that's a team that that's good enough to

471
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,920
play in a national championship game. They didn't have a

472
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,480
bad loss this year like they did last year against Kansas,

473
00:26:09,279 --> 00:26:11,319
and I mean, assuming they take care of business against

474
00:26:11,319 --> 00:26:14,960
Georgia Tech, which I mean Kalani Klonny loves these Bowl games, man.

475
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,920
He coaches, well in them, it feels like it means

476
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,440
something of this BYU team and they're not gonna have

477
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,480
a ton of opt out it's opt outs. It sounds like,

478
00:26:21,599 --> 00:26:23,720
so I imagine they're gonna get the Winever Charge oft Tech.

479
00:26:23,759 --> 00:26:26,039
That's a twelve win season and then you go to

480
00:26:26,079 --> 00:26:28,400
the Sweet sixteen again at.

481
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Speaker 2: The very least.

482
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that's got to be better than last year.

483
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,480
It's a it's a thrilling time in Provo, and you

484
00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:35,440
got to think that this BA basketball team can make

485
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,920
it past the sweet sixteen as well. Obviously it might

486
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,759
be a little early to talk final four. You need

487
00:26:39,799 --> 00:26:42,680
a little more from their bench. And uh but I

488
00:26:42,759 --> 00:26:46,039
mean they're they're a sweet sixteen team. They're they're unbelievable.

489
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 4: You mentioned opt outs.

490
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,599
Speaker 5: How much attrition do you think we experience in that

491
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,000
pop dark Well, how many guys will be opting out

492
00:26:54,599 --> 00:26:58,480
and not playing in that U BYU Georgia Tech game.

493
00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:00,680
I don't know.

494
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,279
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you always have a few just

495
00:27:02,319 --> 00:27:04,720
because that's how just things go. But I think for

496
00:27:04,759 --> 00:27:06,240
the most part, guys want to play in this game.

497
00:27:06,279 --> 00:27:07,839
And then when I have that one last shot, I mean,

498
00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:10,680
thinking about the seniors on this team, and the incredible

499
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,640
senior leadership that Yu's had this season, and just I

500
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,519
mean the Tanner Walls and the Chase Roberts and that

501
00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:19,799
group that's really propelled this this historic stretch of BA football.

502
00:27:19,839 --> 00:27:21,200
Like all those guys are gonna want to play one

503
00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:24,599
last ride, right like Carson Ryan And but I don't know,

504
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,279
I mean, it just feels like it feels like these

505
00:27:26,319 --> 00:27:28,759
ball games like Kalani's got the right mindset about these

506
00:27:28,759 --> 00:27:30,759
ball games. It's a reward, but it's also another chance

507
00:27:30,839 --> 00:27:33,720
to prove yourself and make a statement. And after the

508
00:27:33,799 --> 00:27:36,000
Ali Moi Bowl last year, that was just such a blast.

509
00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:39,440
And now obviously maybe the opponent doesn't have the same

510
00:27:39,519 --> 00:27:43,279
shine as as Colorado with coach Prime and a Heisman winner,

511
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,359
But it's the Pop Tart Bowl, right, Like that's the

512
00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:47,400
viral Bowl. Like if you have a great performance in

513
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,200
the Pop Tart Bowl, like people are gonna remember that

514
00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:51,720
because for whatever reason, the Pop Tart Bowl just always

515
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,839
finds its way on social media to be the next

516
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,279
viral thing. So yeah, I mean, I really think this

517
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,920
is a ball game You're gonna see most of BYU

518
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,920
playing it, and it should be fun have Sonny Orlando

519
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,960
in December. I mean, you can who can beat that?

520
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 4: It's a it's a great bowl destination. Notre Dame.

521
00:28:07,839 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 5: Notre Dame opted out, I've been told because there were

522
00:28:10,759 --> 00:28:14,279
too many opt outs of key players, and uh, you know,

523
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:19,480
obviously they felt jaded, they felt attacked, they felt uh disadvantaged.

524
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:25,960
They felt like the ACC and ESPN collaborated a collusion, right,

525
00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:30,480
Uh that that they they they they pitted uh this,

526
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,839
you know, ESPN and and the ACC kind of went

527
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,319
up against the fighting Irish now named the quitting Irish.

528
00:28:37,319 --> 00:28:39,799
Speaker 4: What do you make of that situation? The opt out

529
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,319
due to the opt outs?

530
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,519
Speaker 3: You know, I'm just I'm gonna try and sound remain

531
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,240
christ like here, Ben, but I've always hated Notre Dame.

532
00:28:50,359 --> 00:28:53,200
I hate everything about him, that is the school. I

533
00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:56,279
just can't stand the just the pretentiousness and the snobbery.

534
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,839
And it's just like, maybe they opted out because of

535
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,039
the opt outs, right, maybe I'll give them the betefit.

536
00:29:01,759 --> 00:29:02,079
Speaker 1: Of the doubt.

537
00:29:02,079 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: But at the same time, just given just the snootiness

538
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,599
of that program and all the drama surrounding it, just

539
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,200
the optics of opting out are so weird. And it

540
00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:12,920
just makes you look like such a loser and just

541
00:29:13,039 --> 00:29:15,200
I mean, you gotta play the games right, like give

542
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,599
your seniors. My thing is, it's like college FOOTBA team

543
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,119
should play college football. If you go to a bowl game,

544
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,160
that's a reward, Like, yeah, he didn't make the playoff.

545
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,880
But I think at the end of the day, like

546
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,319
we kind of uncovered this year that the playoff system

547
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,839
is inherently flawed because these committee members choose to value

548
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,079
certain brands and logos and teams and will bend over

549
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,799
backwards to keep you know, a three lost Alabama team

550
00:29:35,839 --> 00:29:38,119
in the playoff, but a team like BYU that has

551
00:29:38,319 --> 00:29:39,759
a clear playoff resume.

552
00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:41,799
Speaker 2: Isn't gonna make the cut. Like it's just it's it's

553
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,720
it's it's you know, there's it's.

554
00:29:44,599 --> 00:29:45,359
Speaker 3: A broken system.

555
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: And so I think at the end of the day,

556
00:29:46,759 --> 00:29:47,920
like you could at least hang your head on.

557
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 3: Like okay, well you could you could say the system

558
00:29:50,319 --> 00:29:51,880
is broken and play the game and give your seniors

559
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,960
one last chance to play. Like I just feel bad

560
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,240
for all the seniors that aren't gonna be able to

561
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,599
play in that game and have one last ride, just

562
00:29:56,599 --> 00:29:58,920
because it's like I don't know, man, like you only

563
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,880
get so many times just to to suit up with

564
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,920
the boys, like take that opportunity. It's just it's at

565
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,559
the end of the day, it's sad, just because I

566
00:30:05,759 --> 00:30:07,799
feel for those kids and those families that aren't gonna

567
00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:10,200
get a last game, you know. But at the same time,

568
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,839
it's Notre Dame. Like I know, like I said before,

569
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,960
I just don't like Notre Dame. I'm biased, but uh,

570
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,119
it's one of those things where it's like, well, of

571
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,960
course Notre Dame took their bowl and went home, like

572
00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:21,839
that's just what they do. It's yeah, they had a

573
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,079
great opportunity to change the narrative and appear more and

574
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,920
more chill, right, and they didn't do that, So sucks

575
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:28,240
for them.

576
00:30:29,279 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 5: Jackson Payne dese Red News. You're on ESPN the Fan, Jackson,

577
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,039
what have you been working on over at the Desert News.

578
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 3: Oh, man, lots of fun stuff. Just typically write a

579
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,720
lot of basketball stories obviously, like I said, I was

580
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:44,519
in New York for the game, a lot of basketball,

581
00:30:44,519 --> 00:30:47,039
a lot of football. Just plugging away. Man, it's fun

582
00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:47,720
times the BYU.

583
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's truly is is Uh.

584
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 5: What's the biggest concern right now for b YU athletics.

585
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,759
Would you say, obviously there's a ton of momentum, ton

586
00:30:59,799 --> 00:31:04,119
of positivity. Uh, b YU doing tremendous things. What's the

587
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,440
biggest concern you have regarding bo athletics right now?

588
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,759
Speaker 3: Oh man, that's a good question. I don't really think

589
00:31:09,759 --> 00:31:11,559
about that a lot because it just feels like there's

590
00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:12,559
so much good stuff going on.

591
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: But uh, I don't know.

592
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 3: I mean just I just think NIL on the transfer

593
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:19,759
portal just obviously b YU has the resources to compete

594
00:31:19,799 --> 00:31:22,480
and io wise, but I just think you're gonna miss

595
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,640
You're gonna you're gonna miss out on kids of it occasionally,

596
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,279
and guys will leave and it's gonna be Here's there's

597
00:31:28,279 --> 00:31:30,039
always gonna be attrition that way, right, And I just

598
00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:32,119
think that's that's not really a BYU problem, that's an

599
00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:35,359
everywhere problem. And then of course, if if the darkest

600
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,640
fear of a of a super league and college football

601
00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:40,880
happens and BYU doesn't make the cut, like that's that's

602
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,480
way down the line. That's like the dystopian future type

603
00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:46,319
of fear there. But I just feel like NI on

604
00:31:46,359 --> 00:31:49,200
the transferport are still just so bizarre, Like there's just

605
00:31:49,279 --> 00:31:52,119
so much going on there, and I really feel like

606
00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:55,480
obviously b YU is equips and prepared to handle that,

607
00:31:55,519 --> 00:31:57,200
and they've done well so far. But it's just it's

608
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,440
always gonna create problems, and so I think that's mainly

609
00:31:59,599 --> 00:31:59,920
the main thing.

610
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 4: Let's talk Cougar's in the pros here for a moment.

611
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:11,559
Speaker 5: BYU has produced some fantastic football players over the last decade,

612
00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:15,160
especially under Kilane, right, Like you do still have some

613
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,400
holdovers from the from the Bronco Mendenhall era too, Kyle VANOI,

614
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,119
Fred Warner doing tremendous things. There's a little bit of

615
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,519
cross pollination between the siess Fred Warner played for Bronco

616
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,720
and for Kilani. But how is BYU doing in the

617
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,880
NFL right now comparative to maybe what they've done in

618
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,519
the past. Do you think these former Cougar's balling out

619
00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:38,160
in the league? What stands out to you?

620
00:32:39,839 --> 00:32:42,039
Speaker 3: I mean, aside from like the Steve Young era, it

621
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,880
just feels like this is the most visible BYU has

622
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,480
been at the NFL level. Like you can make the

623
00:32:47,559 --> 00:32:49,319
case that Puku and Aku is the best receiver in

624
00:32:49,359 --> 00:32:52,640
the NFL and he's a BYU guy. Fred Warner best

625
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,799
linebacker in the NFL. Obviously he's hurt, but he's the

626
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,720
kind of guy that shows up on podcasts and I

627
00:32:57,799 --> 00:32:59,799
mean he's making headlines off the field, not a bad way,

628
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,480
but that's just a visible guy. And Kyle van Noy

629
00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:04,359
is still doing his thing. And for a team like

630
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,400
the Ravens that is just such a rabid fan base.

631
00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:08,480
Like I mean, I have a bunch of friends out

632
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,559
a Ravens fans and they're like, you know, Kyvin nois

633
00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:12,759
the all time Ravens legend now, like they just love him.

634
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:15,160
That's a dude that like they will worship forever in

635
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,000
Baltimore just because he kind of embodies that that blue

636
00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:20,279
collar Baltimore spirit. And you know, you got to think

637
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,839
some of that comes from BYU. Like I think when

638
00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:26,039
they talk about walk on mentality a lot with some

639
00:33:26,119 --> 00:33:28,240
of these workers that might get drafted later come out

640
00:33:28,279 --> 00:33:30,480
of nowhere in the NFL, and I feel like BYU

641
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:32,480
kind of breaths some of that walk on mentality. Not

642
00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:34,200
to say that they walked on at BYU, but it's

643
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,480
just like there's someone at BYU that puts a chip

644
00:33:36,519 --> 00:33:38,200
on your shoulder and you want to prove yourself and

645
00:33:38,599 --> 00:33:40,160
I really think you've seen that in the NFL and

646
00:33:40,559 --> 00:33:42,960
guys like Ryan Rico, you know, the top five punter

647
00:33:43,039 --> 00:33:47,000
in the NFL potentially, and you know the Tyler Algiers

648
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:48,720
of the world that that plug away and do good

649
00:33:48,759 --> 00:33:51,359
things as well. Just it does really feel like an

650
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,400
awesome group of BYU athletes right now in the pros

651
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,279
and on with The only thing I wish is that

652
00:33:56,319 --> 00:33:58,480
Jamal Williams is out there still because he's such a

653
00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:00,319
hoot and he was so great at represent the why

654
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:03,000
as well. But yeah, really awesome group of Cougars right now.

655
00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:05,480
It's just that's one of the best feaders in Kilane's

656
00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:07,839
cap is He's put some amazing players in the NFL

657
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,840
that continue to do damage.

658
00:34:11,519 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 5: Let me revert back to the VAU football roster for

659
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,480
a moment. We've seen Lemson Waller jump into the portal,

660
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,480
Dom McKenzie jump into the portal. Two wide receivers. You

661
00:34:20,519 --> 00:34:24,119
have Jake Griffin recently that jumped into the portal. What

662
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,840
type of attrition do you do you think will have

663
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,000
of like players that are yeah, look I'm a little

664
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:33,239
you know, said on le Mason and Dom. Both of

665
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,920
those guys had a lot of P four offers tremendously talented,

666
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,719
just didn't get to play a whole lot this year,

667
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:44,519
but they have potential to be fantastic within a BYU offense.

668
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:48,320
I think Jake Griffin, he's got two years of eligibility,

669
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:53,199
maybe his time is is uh, it's his time to transfer,

670
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,519
Like just couldn't get into the rotation.

671
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 4: There's some really good you know tackles.

672
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 5: Andrew Williams, Cayden Chittis the big strong dudes that he's

673
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,920
having to compete against. What what are you seeing maybe

674
00:35:06,599 --> 00:35:09,599
uh forecasted in the transfer portal for BYU.

675
00:35:09,679 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 4: How much attrition?

676
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 3: I don't know, Probably similar to last year. I mean

677
00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:17,840
they lost a couple of key guys like a Harrison

678
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,360
Tagger or Crew Wakely, But I don't know, it just

679
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:25,679
feels like DYU they seem to avoided major transfer portal catastrophe, right,

680
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,480
I mean, I haven't really heard any rumblings or anything

681
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:30,079
just yet. It just feels like some of that, some

682
00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:31,920
of those guys like the little Mason Waller's maybe that

683
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,119
the talented guys that that couldn't really find their place

684
00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:36,119
on the field this year are gonna be the ones

685
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:38,320
that maybe step away from the program and it's just

686
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,239
a bummer and going back, Like I'm not anti Portal

687
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,639
and I'm not anti Niol's like I want every kid

688
00:35:42,679 --> 00:35:44,159
to have a chance to play, but it's also like

689
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,639
it just I missed the days of when you could

690
00:35:46,679 --> 00:35:49,280
have a four year guide developing your program and kind

691
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,400
of be a building block.

692
00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 2: Eventually, right, Like I miss I missed that.

693
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,639
Speaker 3: And you know, I feel like Yu's kept a lot

694
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,199
of those guys lately and they've been able to withstand it.

695
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,519
But it's just it's a bummer when a guy like

696
00:35:58,559 --> 00:36:01,079
lit Mason Waller, who's a really talented receiver and you

697
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:02,719
wanted to see what he could do, and maybe he

698
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,840
wasn't ready or maybe the team wasn't ready for him

699
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,760
to step in year one, Like who knows what happened,

700
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,880
but it's a bummer that you won't get to see

701
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:09,920
him grow and develop.

702
00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:10,159
Speaker 2: In one place.

703
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Speaker 3: But that's just the name of the game in college

704
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,840
in colge football right now, Like that's just guys. Guys

705
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need opportunities, and I'm not I don't want to take

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that away from anyone. Like I'm not anti Portal, I'm

707
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not anti Nil. It's just it's a bummer that things

708
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change to where it's not a consistent group you're in

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a year out. But it's also fun because you get

710
00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:27,440
to see new faces like a Carson Ryan or a

711
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,079
Bear Bachmeyer come in and make some make some magic

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happen out of the portal.

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Speaker 5: Which transfer hurt by you the most this past offseason,

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guys like Josh Singh, Harrison Taggart, Keelan Marion.

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Speaker 4: You can also look at.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, technically like Hinckley had jumped into the portal,

717
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,559
he didn't find his way, you know, to anywhere else.

718
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:53,639
He didn't get his eligibility back. I guess we can,

719
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you know, I'm just looking at the portal list here.

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David Loti went over to Boise State, you know that one.

721
00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:02,679
Maybe hurting Crew Wakeley to Purdue. Cody EPs went to

722
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,840
Western Kentucky before retiring. Jackson Bowers could have used him

723
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:12,039
maybe at the tight end spot, possibly alongside Carson Ryan.

724
00:37:12,159 --> 00:37:14,599
I know Kean need looked pretty good, but he went

725
00:37:14,639 --> 00:37:16,519
to Oregon State. Miles Davis had a pretty good season

726
00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:18,280
at Utah State. You could have used it an additional

727
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,679
running back, right, you were a little thin in that

728
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,000
RB room. You had to resort to, you know, other

729
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,239
players on the defense side of the ball. Which one

730
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hurt the most, do you think?

731
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Speaker 3: I think it's Kill and Marion. I mean, when you

732
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have a third year receiver in your program, I think

733
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,599
that's so huge. And just Chas and Parker were great

734
00:37:38,639 --> 00:37:41,239
this year. Carson Ryan was great, but having that third

735
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,719
receiver really would have helped YU. I just I never

736
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really felt like they had.

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Speaker 2: It.

738
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Speaker 3: Always felt like they were just a little bit short

739
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,880
in the pass catching department. And that's not a detrimentscy

740
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,559
the offense, like Barre did so much on the ground,

741
00:37:52,679 --> 00:37:55,320
LJS Offensive Player of the Year. Like I said, Chason

742
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,239
Parker were great, Carson was great. You had a great

743
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,559
offense at YU, but I think one more receiver could

744
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:02,559
have taken it to the next level. And especially a

745
00:38:02,639 --> 00:38:04,599
guy like mary And who's kind of he can stretch

746
00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:07,039
the field in the return game as well.

747
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Speaker 2: He can do some good.

748
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Speaker 3: Things as we saw last year obviously. And then you

749
00:38:11,519 --> 00:38:13,360
know in spring ball, they were really creative with how

750
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,719
they were getting him to the football. It felt like

751
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,320
they were lighting him up in all sorts of places.

752
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,440
I was really intrigued by what they were gonna do

753
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:19,639
with Kiel and Mary in this year, and then of

754
00:38:19,639 --> 00:38:22,199
course he jumps in the portal. Yeah, I mean, I

755
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,920
think I think another receiver would have really helped this

756
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,199
BYuT but then obviously Hinkley as well, if like that's

757
00:38:27,199 --> 00:38:29,320
super unfortunate. I just think I hate when the NC

758
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,880
double lake it's in their own way and tries to,

759
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,639
you know, get keep kids from from getting to play

760
00:38:35,679 --> 00:38:38,440
some more. And it felt like Hinckley kind of got

761
00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:41,159
Delta a raw deal there. But you know, I mean,

762
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with with Moa getting hurt, having Hinkley would have been

763
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,079
awesome as kind of the pass catching back, the change

764
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of pace back. I'm I'm I'm just astonished that LJ

765
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handled the workload that he did so well this year.

766
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I mean, obviously he had his injury mid season kind

767
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,559
of in the Iowa State game, and he got shaken

768
00:38:58,639 --> 00:39:01,000
up in another a couple other games, but you know,

769
00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:04,079
he just felt like with with the workload that he had,

770
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,320
he handled it so well and dominated, especially towards the

771
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end of the season. But having another running back would

772
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have been so nice just to you know, share the

773
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,920
wealth a little bit and maybe keep LJ a little fresher.

774
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,519
But Obviously it's a moot point by you want eleven

775
00:39:16,559 --> 00:39:18,679
to two, and they had a great offense. But you know,

776
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,840
I think, like I said earlier, Mary and having that

777
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,960
third receiver as like a game, having a third game

778
00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:26,960
changing receiver potentially is would have been huge for this offense.

779
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 5: Take out Bear Bach mind l J. Who can't you

780
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,360
lose in the portal this offseason? Minus like I said,

781
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LJ and Bear Backerer, let's say that they're coming back.

782
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Speaker 3: Hmmm, assuming that he doesn't go pro. I would say

783
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,719
Isaiah Glasker just because you know, if if you're losing

784
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,880
Jack Kelly because he's going pro, and h Glasger when

785
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,679
he when he flashes, when he's at his best, he's

786
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,760
just he's unbelievable. Obviously this year he had some injuries

787
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,119
and maybe kind of an up and down season. Like

788
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:00,639
when he was good, he was really good. He was

789
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,199
never bad, but just the consistency might not have been

790
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,840
there one hundred percent of the time. But I just

791
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,239
feel like that's that's the guy that you want to

792
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,000
build your defense around. Up just an absolute physical Freaklinke Lasker,

793
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:11,639
I'd like that.

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Speaker 5: Take can't lose Ig Gotta get him back. We'll see

795
00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:18,320
how what he decides here going forward, Jackson, best way

796
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,639
to support you what you do, how you do it

797
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:20,519
for all of our listeners.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man at Jackson five pain on Twitter and Instagram,

799
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,480
read the des red News. Always putting stuff out there

800
00:40:27,519 --> 00:40:30,360
and uh yeah always always love covering BYU and hopping

801
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,239
on the hopping on the show.

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Speaker 4: Ben.

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Speaker 3: It's a great time.

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