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your support. So let me sum up the game that
is being played right now about the Signal Group chat
scandal quote unquote Democrats. As you heard at the end
of the last hour with the call from Alex, Democrats
are demanding that Republicans be better than Democrats and the
standards that Democrats set, that's what they're saying, be better
than us and the standards we set. Because you guys
complained about Hillary Clinton's emails, and you guys said she
should be prosecuted, classified material was compromised, all of those charges,
all of those accusations, right, all the investigations, and you
guys made all of this big deal about it. So
therefore you need to do the same thing with your guy, right,
But you guys said it wasn't a big deal. You
guys let her off the hook. You guys blamed the
FBI for her loss because they dared to look at
the transgressions, which I have said from the very beginning.
The smoking gun is the existence of the server that
was the smoking gun, and everybody pretended like it wasn't.
And when you sit back and you watch the way
that unfolded, and you're not a Democrat, you start to
wonder why should I even play by the old set
of rules. And that's how you got Donald Trump. It is.
You may not want to hear it, but that's the truth.
Let me read a couple of emails here. This is
from Tony who says security breach subject line it's a peatmeal.
He says they should have just said we made a
mistake and we'll fix it. Don't defend it. Can't believe
you're defending this with what about the Democrats? Integrity still
matters to me, regardless of what the new standard is. No, Tony,
that's fine. I don't actually believe I've defended them using
the signal chat because I don't know what all was
said in the signal chat. I did say last hour
that they probably should not have been using that app.
But the reason why, I will point out the reason
why they were using the app is apparently, like everybody
in Washington uses signal, they are all communicating with each
other in this encrypted service. But that the use of
this platform became more prevalent. According to the Associated Press,
the use of signal became more prevalent during the final
year of the Biden administration. Do you know why because
federal law enforcement officials warned that China and Iran were
hacking the White House as well as officials in the
first Trump administration. So the first Trump administration was being
hacked by China and Iran. And last year then the
use of signal became more prevalent because that news, that
information was divulged. That's why they're using it. They don't
trust our own government security apparatus, and why should they.
By the way, seriously, again, I'm not advocating that the
people on the group chat did nothing wrong. I have
not said that. I don't know what they did. However,
I can understand why they would not trust the American
intelligence community considering the track record that the intel community
has with regards to the Trump administration pretty clear. That
record is very clear. Also, when Donald Trump has phone
calls with foreign leaders, they somehow end up being used
against him for an impeachment trial. Well, that's the kind
of bunker mentality that the people in the Trump world have.
I understand that. I believe. I also said last hour
that they should have been engaged in this kind if
it's if they were discussing classified information, they should have
been doing it in a skiff. They did not. That's
a problem, same sort of problem that Hillary Clinton had.
But again, y'all set a standard that it didn't matter.
But now you want the other side to adhere to
a standard that you yourselves do not adhere to. And
so what you're saying that you guys have higher standards
than us, so you should live by them. You guys
said that you thought she did something wrong, so you
know you should maintain that position and will maintain the
position that it's all fine when we do it. So
that you're asking, you're demanding actually unilateral disarmament in the fight,
and whatever you think about Trump World, they are not
going to do that. They're just not. Again, I tried
to warn people. I tried to warn you Democrats that
this was the path that you were embarking on, and
you didn't care. It's the same thing as the filibuster,
exact same thing. It's the same thing as packing the
US Supreme Court, which, by the way, have you noticed
nobody seems to care about anymore. On the left, they
were demanding that the Supreme Court be expanded so they
could stick a bunch of new justices on the bench
so they could then rule in perpetuity and get what
they want through the court system. They demanded that we
blow up the filibuster so they no longer have to
listen to the forty Republican senators forty one Republican senators,
and then they know, this way they can get through
whatever they want to get through as soon as they
got a fit. Do you want seat majority in the
US Senate? You don't hear about that anymore. See your standards, guys,
you're the norm destroyers, you guys are Let me jump
over and chat with Stan. Hello, Stan, Welcome.
Speaker 2: To the show. How are you doing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's going on?
Speaker 2: I'm well that's awesome. You know what I want to
talk with you about is basically the laws that they
write and this is what I've thought for years by
laws that they write. The laws sound good like campaign
financial form. Okay, we don't want money in politics, so
we'll do campaign financial form. The only problem is it
was never intended to be enforced both ways. So with
most of the regulations that we accepted, what they write
sounds good because they control the media, what gets reported
and what gets out there, and because they have enough
judges they can go dug shopping with. Basically, what they've
done is they've run the other side down for years.
Now what we got to buy in the White House
is fighting for us. They're actually seeing what we've seen
for a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think. I mean, that's the problem
with writing any kind of law is you can never
predict every circumstance. And lawyers and special interests who helped
to write the laws, or in some cases do write
the laws, they carve out the loopholes for themselves, right,
so they know how to take advantage of this stuff.
So that's a problem with any law at every level.
Speaker 2: So then what happened is most of the law making
body basically loses some of itself because at some point
we no longer lend that any credibility, So we just
don't follow the law. That's the place you don't want
to go down. You don't want to go down. You
don't want to go down that road, right, which.
Speaker 1: Is what the whole system is based on, is the
rule of law being applied equally. And if people have
no expectation of that, then yeah, then people see to
follow the law.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you do not want to live decided where
that happened?
Speaker 1: No, No, I talk about it often. Yeah, Stan, I
appreciate the call, sir. Yeah, man, you too. Let me
see here. This is from Bob, who says, uh, come on, Pete.
You know it's different when Democrats do it. It's and uh.
Joseph says, the Biden administration approved signal for use by
government officials. I want to know who has Jeffrey Goldberg
in their contacts though, because they would be out and
I mean of everything cardboard box and friendly escort out
the door, right. Yeah, I want to know who has
Jeffrey Goldberg in their contacts. That's that's a concern for
me and DS. Jeff says, have we finally found something
upon which Democrats can pounce and seize? I believe so.
I believe we are witnessing pouncing and seizing. I do
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Chris Stigall from the Salem News Channel. He said, two
things can be true. Michael Waltz, the National Security Advisor
and his team screwed up. Also, Jeffrey Goldberg is a
snake who mischaracterizes and gas lights to score political points.
So release every word of the messages and let us
read it for ourselves, Like, I feel like that's what
should occur. And if you can't do that, then that's
going to indicate that there was classified stuff being discussed
in there, and then address that somehow or just say, oh,
you know what, we fat fingered it invited the guy
didn't mean to. We found out what happened. We're moving on. Sorry,
and that's it. And then and let democrats and media,
you know, continue to blow a gasket. I guess. Jim,
Welcome to the program. Hello, Jim good Hi, Hell are
you hey? I'm good man, I'm sorry, Yeah, what's up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been kind of listening to this stuff I
heard last night. I've been watching on TV off and on.
I was in the military. I was in public affairs
and I worked around a lot of generals from the
High level people traveled on your plans, went places with them.
These high level people, you know a lot of times
they get on a conference call or something, somebody has
already got it arranged and all they do is say general,
pick up the phone, right, and so and so and
sos on it. They don't do all that stuff themselves.
Speaker 1: No, of course sometimes, Yeah, I've done interviews with people
like that, and yeah, you talk to their person first,
and right before you go live, they hand the phone
over to the guy that you're going to be interviewing.
They don't sit on the officials don't sit on hold
during the newscast waiting to do the live shot.
Speaker 3: Who I don't know something, who knows the JG thing.
I've heard several things about that that that may may
even thought of somebody else that they were supposed to
send it to. But you know, when when when Pete
has just picks up the phone or in whatever, what
he's going to do. And I use signal myself, And
one reason I've used it for years is because I
learned when I was in the military. It's a it's
a good you know, it's a good source used. And
I don't use I mean, I use local stuff, you know,
but I don't know that I use for more private things.
What really bothers me is is a person who's worked
with media, local high people all over the place in
my twenty something years in the military, was that guy
Goldberg should have not done what he did. He should
have called the Pentagon and said, you guys are sending
me some information. I don't know if it's good or bad.
He should have back during World War two career or
even Vietnam, that crap would have never happened. And it
just shows how the media has changed so much. It
does he's a traitor by doing what he did, So it.
Speaker 1: Does raise a question that that raises a question that
I've seen in being discussed in media circles, is you know,
one view that you just articulated is that when you
realize you are in this group and you shouldn't be
in the group, then you should leave the group because
if it is real you don't have you don't have
clearance to be in that group, it's obviously a mistake
or it's a scam, and so you should get out
of the group because you don't want to get scammed.
So the fact that he stayed in the group, even
though he claims that he didn't think it was real.
Why would you stay in that group? Can't you just
get out of the group. Can't you just leave? Of
course you can't. So Yeah, and I don't know what
I would have done if I had been invited into
the group, but I probably would have said, am I
supposed to be in this? That's probably what I would
have said, because like I had a rule that I
would not break laws in order to get stories. That
was one of my rules.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was an eavesdropper. I mean, what can
I say?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: He should have. Yeah, you should have hung up. You
should have called the Pentagon and say, uh, somehow I
got on this. Instead he turned around. And that's so.
You know, I'm an old baby boomer, so maybe this
is really Unamerican to me. But it really burned me up,
and probably more because I've been level with three four
star generals and traveled with them, and you know, I
know the routines and stuff and high level people like
that or it is around them, and it just bothers
me that that guy didn't He made things really worse.
He could have called the Pentagon and said, somehow I
got on this. Yeah, you need to let him know. Now,
if it was a Democrat, he probably would have done that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he might ever sat on the information or just
thought that I was supposed to be in there because
I get invited to all of these group chats. Uh. Yeah,
that's it, Jim. I appreciate the call, sir, and thank
you for your service. We appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Sure, all right, take care.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean I've seen people argue over the
last twenty four hours, you know in media circles. Oh,
you would have done the same thing that Jeffrey Goldberg did.
You would have sat in there and you would have
you know, eves dropped in and gotten this information too.
That's that. Okay. Well, if if you if you are
a journalist or reporter, and you are making that assertion,
you're making that argument that any reporter, if they got
invited in, that they would stay, and that's what I
would do too. Right, then, like you're already like you're
already sort of undermining any kind of moral authority there
because you're not supposed to have access to that information
either the fact that you were invited in, like you
could have left and then it wouldn't have been a story, right,
But you stayed and you made it a story. You
made yourself the story. And that's also one of the
things they teach you in journalism school is you're not
supposed to be the story. But Jeffrey Goldberg stayed, and
he claims he only stayed because he thought it was
all a scam, which why would you stay if it's
a scam? That doesn't add up to me either. And
by the way, I have gone in to virtual meetings
and stuff organizers, union and activist organizers and stuff, and
I always go in with my real name, And if
you want to kick me out, you go right ahead
and kick me out. I have never been kicked out though.
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at town hall dot com as well. He says the
Signaled Chat story is a gut check for alleged cons Conservatives.
He says nothing significant was revealed. Worst case, it was
a mistake that will never happen again. More likely, a
proven liar has now lied about at least some of it,
that being Jeffrey Goldberg. And yet so many people are
delighted to have the opportunity to freak out about something
that Trump, that the Trump administration did. It's bizarre, by
the way, hang on, let me jump over and read
this message that I got from Russ. It's about that
very thing. And Russ points out how it's kind of
weird that callers Alex, Tom, Tony, Mike, at all, those
types of callers come out of the woodwork on bad
news days for Trump, Republicans, Conservatives, etc. But are totally
absent on any good news news days or bad news days.
It's almost like they're all seminar callers or paid opposition callers.
It's funny, Russ that you mentioned that, because I literally
said the same thing during one of the breaks. You
only hear from them on days like this otherwise, because
all they are is the resistance. All they are is
in attack mode. That's all they know. It's very difficult,
you know, to make positive cases in support of a thing.
It's much easier to attack and so that's what they do.
And Richard wants to know a big question for me
is why did somebody have that reporter's contact info in
their rolodex? Yeah, I agree, I said the same thing.
I would like to know, like, who's set that up?
And why is Jeffrey Goldberg in your contacts? List back
to Kurt Schlickter's post. He says, it is bizarre how
so many people who are delighting to have the opportunity
to freak out about something Trump or his administration did.
It's bizarre how they play along with leftist narratives. The
answer to your enemies is to give them nothing nothing.
You're not being principled, you're not demonstrating integrity, You're showing weakness.
Never ever give them the head of one of your allies.
Understand that your enemies never get anything except pain and mockery.
There's no such thing as even handedness. Either win or lose.
I choose winning. This is where we are. I've been
warning about this. Nobody wants to believe me. This is
where we are. Though, along the lines of people being
outraged at things being discussed in private, did you see
this story over at the Charlotte Observer. I mean, first
you'd have to have a subscription. But yeah, So apparently
the Charlotte City Council is doing something that I have
a bit of experience with, by the way, not me personally,
but I watched it happen up in Asheville, where they
would do these same kinds of small meetings. They called
them what they call it like one on ones or
three on ones or three no, not three ways, two
on ones or something like that. Essentially, it was the
county manager, her name was Wanda Green, and she would
meet in these small groups of the county commissioners. Believe
there are seven of them, and so she would meet
with I think they call them three on one. So
she would have like three commissioners come in and she
would talk to them about stuff on the agenda, about
whatever business had to be discussed. Then they would leave,
and then another group of three would come in. She
would talk with them, and then she would have a
side conversation with the chairman. And you think, well, why
would you do that. That's so inefficient. You've got now
three meetings instead of just one. Ah. See, if you
have a meeting where a majority of the board is present.
Now you have to follow the open meetings laws, and
so they didn't want to do that. Now it turns
out Wanda Green had a bit of an ulterior motive
in doing this, because she would she would lie to
different groups and pit them against each other in an
effort to distract their attention away from the fact that
she was embezzling millions of dollars from the county. She
went to federal prison and then COVID let her out.
But yeah, like that's that's why you do that, is
so you can control the information flow. And our Charlotte
City Council has been doing the same thing. I'm not
alleging any kind of illegal activity or anything. I'm not
saying there's any embezzlement. I'm just saying these little meetings
are occurring, and council members may think that they are
getting a benefit in having these one on ones and
not having to adhere to open meetings law and all that,
But you don't know how you may be getting manipulated. Also,
you don't know what other questions other council members are asking.
It's like a press conference versus a one on one interview.
If I sit down for a one on one interview
with somebody, I may not think of all the questions.
In fact, I guarantee I'm not going to think of
all the questions because I'm only one person with only
one and a half brains. It's a long story. But
if you've got a news conference and you've got twenty
reporters there, you're gonna get lots of questions that every
people hadn't thought of. And if I ask a question
and I'm satisfied with the answer, another reporter might not
be satisfied with that answer, ask a follow up and
get more information. So this is what's been going on
at the Charlotte City council level. Meetings not announced, not
open to the public, and they fall into the category
of a small group gathering, which does not officially meet
the attendant's threshold, which is a majority of council members,
so they don't have to declare a public meeting under
the state's open meetings law. The law says that any
gathering of a majority of members of a public body
in person or virtual, must be announced to the public
and open to the public if they are conducting public business.
The city says that its small group meetings are conducted
quote in accordance with applicable law. Well yeah, but if
you keep it under half of the body, then there
isn't an applicable law. You don't have to have it open. Notably,
the law authorizes counsel to interact informally and socially without
the construct of the Open Meetings Law, exempting such gatherings
and events from the notice, public access and minutes requirements
of official meetings of public bodies, according to the city
in a statement to the Charlotte Observer, but some still
question the legality of the small groups case. Law on
the subject is limited, but it can be a tactic
for officials to evade transparency. According to Mike Tadisch, who
specializes in media law, well, that's exactly what it does.
It's sort of like Hillary Clinton's email server. That's the
reason why you have the server is so you can
wipe it like with a cloth, and then nobody can
ever retrieve any of the classified material that you were
sending through your server. All right, if you're listening to
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the course of the show today suggesting that the signal
gate was some sort of a trap. I don't buy that.
I don't believe that it was a trap to catch
Goldberg or something like that. I've seen no evidence to
support that theory. I'm not saying it. I know that
to not be true. I'm just saying there's no evidence
to support that. All right, let me go over and
talk with Joy. Hello, Joy, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Hey, how are you today?
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm good. What's going on?
Speaker 4: I just think that, you know, there's a lot of
talk about things and whether you know things are going
to happen. Understand that it should not have happened with
the leak, but after things happen, I think people need
to own up to the responsibilities and also not make
light of the responsibilities. And I see that with Musk
and with Trump. No matter who you're for, you don't
make light of it and say about putting an article
in the Atlantic and nobody would see it and laugh
about it. It's not a joking matter at all. And
that's what I thought the administration. For things happen, but
you need to be responsible for it, on up to it,
and certainly don't make jokes about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, Joy, I appreciate the call. Okay, thank right, Yep,
take care. Joy's reference there is I think it was
Babylon B the satire website, parody website. I think it was.
I think it was a Babylon B headline that they said, uh,
you know, they leaked the battle plans to the Atlantic
knowing that nobody would see them or something. And and
then I don't know who, somebody shared it or liked
it or something on Twitter, probably Elon Musk. I don't
even know if Trump does anything on Twitter anymore. He
prefers his own you know, social media platform, truth social
So yeah, so he retweeted that or whatever. So Joy
doesn't like the fact that they're making light of it. Look,
as I said, all the what's the old axiom, it's
not the crime, it's the cover up, right, And the
way that it's being handled is probably going to give
more fuel to the fire for people that are looking
for more fuel. That's all they want is more fuel,
more fuel. This is now got all their attention, all
their focus is because they're going to try to leverage
it to stein me anything else that Trump tries to
do with regard to the DoD and the intelligence agencies
and everything else. We are in a game right now
of running out the clock. That is what democrats and media.
But I repeat myself, are attempting to do at the
courts right with hundreds of lawsuits filed. The point is
not to prevent that's gravy. The point is to stall, right,
that's the purpose. It's to delay as much as possible
until you can get close enough to the next election
so he won't be able to then resume what he
wants to do. That's what's going on here. I've got
a whole topic on this, and I was thinking I
would do it today, but I ran out of time,
so we'll do it tomorrow. But that's what this latest
quote scandal, this signal gate stuff, that's what this is
designed to do. They're going to have, you know, demand
hearings and everything else. But Democrats do not control Congus
and so it's going to be very difficult for them
to actually try to get something like that done because
Republicans are They're going to take whatever excuse, whatever explanation
comes out of the intelligence agencies. And as with Democrats,
by the way, they both do it. And I'm sorry,
but I like I don't have a lot of tolerance
for lefties that ignored all of the transgression. For example,
if you were if you're on the left, and you
ever used the words cheap fake in relation to Joe
Biden's cognitive decline. I don't care what you have to
say about this. It doesn't matter to me because your
booze mean nothing because I have seen what you cheer
for a right? Yeah, why not close it out? You
got about uh we got a forty five seconds, Tony?
How are you, sir? Good to hear from you today?
Speaker 2: Yeah? How you doing today? Pete?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 3: Hey, look looks like the JB squad is playing on
this one.
Speaker 4: Hey, you know what heck?
Speaker 2: When you got a womanize an alcoholic as a defense secretary.
Speaker 3: And then a womanizer and fraud as the president, you
can't expect much more.
Speaker 4: So, I mean, is what it is?
Speaker 1: All right? Okay? So you shouldn't expect it either. Then
you shouldn't expect more either.
Speaker 2: Then, Hey, I believe me, I don't okay?
Speaker 1: So why do you care?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: All right? So why do you care enough to why
do you care enough to call? What's the purpose of
your Call's?
Speaker 4: What do you mean?
Speaker 3: What's the purpose of it?
Speaker 1: What's the purpose of your call? If you will, if
you don't expect anything better? The comment I'll tell you
the purpose of my call is to comment on the
dumb founders of the of the administration that's running the country.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: That's all you know. And the thing about it is,
you guys always want to go back to what Biden
was this Widy's not president anymore?
Speaker 1: Wait, what are you serious? I had no idea. Oh
my gosh, Joe Biden is not president anymore. Thank you
very much, Tony. I appreciate the enlightenment on that. Wo Man,
I had no idea Joe Biden wasn't president any longer.
I mean, I feel like I follow this stuff pretty closely,
but that one just plumme evated me. All right, that'll
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