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Speaker 1: Ground zero Radio Network. Welcome in tonight, joining me on
Speaker 1: the phone, all the way from somewhere in Appalachia. I'll
Speaker 1: let him tell you where he's at if he wants to,
Speaker 1: Brother Littlefoot, we're gonna be talking about Bigfoot, also known
Speaker 1: as Sabe or Sasquatch. Brother little Foot, come on.
Speaker 2: In, Oh, howdie, Thanks for having me, Steve.
Speaker 3: Thanks you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you being here. You've been sending me some
Speaker 1: amazing clips and stuff, and I've got a book out. Well,
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and give me a little background about you,
Speaker 1: where you're from and how this came to be.
Speaker 2: Well, I grew up in Mississippi. My father is a
Speaker 2: Methodist minister. He's passed away now he's still alive to
Speaker 2: me if you know what I mean. But uh, he's
Speaker 2: a methdist minister. My mother gosh, I was an accidental child.
Speaker 2: I wasn't born until he was like forty one or
Speaker 2: something like that, forty two, which is kind of a
Speaker 2: kind of a secret to say a way.
Speaker 1: I was a late in life unexpected baby. Yeah, sibling
Speaker 1: and older brother. He was seventeen years older than I am.
Speaker 1: My parents thought they were done with kids, and surprise,
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be a nineteen sixty three Corvette
Speaker 1: that convertible and travel the country once my brother moved out.
Speaker 1: They liked that old Root sixty six TV show. And
Speaker 1: then I came along and changed everything, but it worked
Speaker 1: out well. I was basically raised as an only and
Speaker 1: so I totally feel you there. My dad was born
Speaker 1: in nineteen twenty one. My mom nineteen twenty seven that
Speaker 1: I was born in sixty three, So there you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: My dad was born in nineteen thirty five, and he
Speaker 2: actually grew up picking cotton. When he was like five
Speaker 2: years old, he was picking cotton and he drove the
Speaker 2: school bus down there in South Mississippian. I'd say it's
Speaker 2: a small town and it's just a place with a name,
Speaker 2: but he grew up on a cotton farm and he
Speaker 2: actually he became a Methodist minister. And my mother went
Speaker 2: to school with Elvis Presley in Tupelo, And that is
Speaker 2: an absolute fact.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's never never gone back on that story or
Speaker 2: nor has her brother or brother played football with him.
Speaker 1: That's cool. And I've traveled around the world. I've been
Speaker 1: in the Europe before, and then I traveled to Southeast
Speaker 1: Asia and spent some time over there. And everywhere I go,
Speaker 1: if I mentioned that I'm from Tennessee, they can kind
Speaker 1: of tell me the accent. They'll say, oh, Tennessee, Jack
Speaker 1: Daniels and Elvis, those two names.
Speaker 2: Tennessee gets all the glory in Mississippi is actually where
Speaker 2: he was from. But yeah, Tennessee is where he kind
Speaker 2: of well, actually I don't know where he first heard
Speaker 2: because he had to be influenced by some blues obviously somewhere,
Speaker 2: and there was a lot of that North Mississippi. But anyway,
Speaker 2: we could talk about Elvis all night. But anyway, but
Speaker 2: my uh, you know, my mother's father left her family
Speaker 2: when she was only three years old. He was an
Speaker 2: alcoholic and a gambler, and I don't want to like
Speaker 2: putting him down as a bad person. They did make
Speaker 2: amends before he passed, and and you know, people in
Speaker 2: spirit world, we don't want to judge people of spirits
Speaker 2: as they were in one lifetime, you know. But uh, anyway,
Speaker 2: so she's had she had a very hard life. She
Speaker 2: had to give piano lessons at age twelve to help
Speaker 2: pay the rent, and my grandmother started she opened a
Speaker 2: beauty salon in her home to help pay the rent.
Speaker 2: So they just they had it hard. And her brother
Speaker 2: was kind of hard on her growing up, but he
Speaker 2: was a lot nicer. He actually gave her a part
Speaker 2: of his business as he got older, certainly, he started
Speaker 2: his own business and gave her a small part of
Speaker 2: that to start up here in the mountains and it
Speaker 2: did pretty well. But anyways, my father and my father
Speaker 2: had he had gosh, he grew up in a big family.
Speaker 2: So it was two sisters and three brothers. I think
Speaker 2: I think there was six of them altogether. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: four brothers, I mean, including him, its four brothers and
Speaker 2: two sisters. And they both two of the brothers became
Speaker 2: Methodist preachers, the other two were farmers. And the two
Speaker 2: sisters married Baptist preachers, which goes against our religion. But
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. But anyways, it's just kind of funny.
Speaker 2: But we have big family reunions to this day. I
Speaker 2: mean we have fifty to eighty people just kind of
Speaker 2: depending on how things are going. So we're just a
Speaker 2: very tightly knit family. And we still visit the same
Speaker 2: home that my father and his family grew up in.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you right now, I've been in a
Speaker 2: lot of haunted homes. It's the most haunted home I've
Speaker 2: ever walked in. I don't know. In the daytime, it's
Speaker 2: totally peaceful, and at night it just turns into another world.
Speaker 2: But there are sabe, sasquatch, bigfoot, whatever people want to
Speaker 2: call them. I prefer the term sabe. I am not ojebwe.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be indigenous. An indigenous person is
Speaker 2: like you know, some people complain that people that are
Speaker 2: not indigenous tried to present themselves that way. I do
Speaker 2: not try to present myself as that way. I just
Speaker 2: honor a lot of their culture, their words and things
Speaker 2: like that. And sabe jebwe people means grandfathers of honesty.
Speaker 2: And then when I watched a story of video on
Speaker 2: YouTube about it tells the story about the beaver, it's
Speaker 2: different animals and the sabe, the sasquatch is just another
Speaker 2: one of the animals that teaches us something and not
Speaker 2: say animals they are a people. Excuse me, But in
Speaker 2: that story. It's one of the animals, one of the
Speaker 2: creatures of the forest will say that that is there
Speaker 2: that teach us something, not that everything centers around humans,
Speaker 2: but grand there. They got that term grandfathers of honesty there.
Speaker 2: I'd have to go through the whole story, which.
Speaker 1: I like that I've heard that word used it. I
Speaker 1: didn't didn't know the origins of it, so thank you
Speaker 1: for that. And uh, it's one of those things that
Speaker 1: that all tribes that I know of, they have some
Speaker 1: tale like that. You've got it in the smoke. He's
Speaker 1: got it up here. To know England, the Alvalanquins have it.
Speaker 2: The Cherokee. The Cherokee word translates it's soon Cooley or something.
Speaker 2: I'd have to look it up. That's not the right word,
Speaker 2: but it meant Cherokee devil. I'm like, I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: say that, you know. Yeah, I'd rather call him Judicola
Speaker 2: than that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this landaid giant.
Speaker 1: But uh, anyway, we talk about that maybe at some
Speaker 1: point that Judicola rock. I've been out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I visited there too, and I want to go back.
Speaker 2: I want to go back at night. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's such of.
Speaker 1: Creepy stuff in that area. Great Smoky Mountains and uh east, say,
Speaker 1: western North Carolina up needs to see rambled all over
Speaker 1: the mountains and stuff. They're on both sides of the
Speaker 1: border there. But I think some of the most haunted
Speaker 1: places I've ever seen in Cage's Cove. They're the Great Smokies.
Speaker 1: And then the north shore of Fontana Lake. That's that's
Speaker 1: a weird, weird place too.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you I was out on a dirt
Speaker 2: road at a fairly well known place. Well, i's call
Speaker 2: it a Bald Mountain, not too far from Tennessee, but
Speaker 2: on the North Carolina side, and I was talking to
Speaker 2: if and you know, this is saying exactly where they
Speaker 2: are at all. And that's the thing is, I don't
Speaker 2: like to give away specific locations of where these sasquatcher
Speaker 2: say people are anymore than I would want to give
Speaker 2: away my own family, you know, my human family or
Speaker 2: friends addresses to.
Speaker 1: The Yet don't want to docks those creatures.
Speaker 2: Either, No, And I mean, well, they're my friends. I
Speaker 2: feel that way about him. I love them, I don't
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to do anything to them that way,
Speaker 2: you know, And I trust them in the same way,
Speaker 2: although they all the ones I visited and visited me too, apparently.
Speaker 2: But uh, any who, let's see what was I talking about.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Uh, gosh, you.
Speaker 1: Talk about your your family reunions and things that you
Speaker 1: have there and have your big tight end.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah in Mississippi.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I actually recorded the sound of one of them smacking
Speaker 2: a big propane tank as I was sitting there talking
Speaker 2: to him about UFOs and things like that. No, it's fireworks,
Speaker 2: and I said, boom boom. And then a few minutes
Speaker 2: later I turned around a few minutes later one of
Speaker 2: them smacks the propane tank behind me just as hard
Speaker 2: as he can. And uh, and it's it's on my channel, brother,
Speaker 2: little foot channel is what you would look up on
Speaker 2: YouTube to find that, and you'd see the big bea
Speaker 2: come up. But uh, that's one of the And then
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't know. But you got to
Speaker 2: click on the word videos and then it'll pull up
Speaker 2: all the all the audio that I have, you know,
Speaker 2: that I put on there, and not just a few
Speaker 2: things that you see on the at first on the screen,
Speaker 2: but there, it's there's one on there. It says, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, Sabe man Sabe Sasquatch man smacks of pro
Speaker 2: paane tank and.
Speaker 1: I have to listen to that one. I just I've
Speaker 1: done that before myself, hit one of those propane tanks,
Speaker 1: and that just I like the sound that that makes.
Speaker 2: But well, one of this, yeah, I thought somebody was
Speaker 2: sitting shooting a shotgun next to me. And I was
Speaker 2: totally by myself in the woods right behind that home
Speaker 2: where my father grew up in Mississippi. I mean totally
Speaker 2: by myself. My cousin was cross the road, but they wouldn't.
Speaker 2: My family is not a bunch of pranksters. We're pretty
Speaker 2: they're mostly pretty quiet reserved people. Well joke, you know,
Speaker 2: Joe around, but we're just pretty quiet, reserved people for
Speaker 2: the most part. They are. I'm not, but but I
Speaker 2: was talking the Sasquatch Sasquatch people there, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, bamn, I mean, just as loud as could be.
Speaker 2: And the thing is is, you do not hit a rock,
Speaker 2: hit the ground or anything after it happens, so nothing
Speaker 2: was thrown. It was a it was an open palm
Speaker 2: smack on that thing. And even the way it sounds
Speaker 2: was just a b you know, it was a gunshot.
Speaker 2: It was as loud as a gunshot, easily easily a shotgun.
Speaker 2: I would say, it just scared the p out of me.
Speaker 2: But then you just start talking to him again. I'm like,
Speaker 2: and I did ask him. I'm like, did I upset you? Well, okay,
Speaker 2: And then they get kind of quiet and that that
Speaker 2: means no. Typically, when I talk to them, I guess
Speaker 2: there's several things I need to explain. Typically when I
Speaker 2: talk to them, they'll respond to me with either a
Speaker 2: knock or whoop, a snap something if they if it's positive,
Speaker 2: and they give me a lot of what I call
Speaker 2: amen responses, meaning that they're they're saying they're they're in
Speaker 2: agreement with whatever I'm saying. I may be saying. Man,
Speaker 2: I just I think humans are taking up too much
Speaker 2: of the earth and we're tearing down too many trees
Speaker 2: or something. They may start knocking, you know, and they're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're in agreement with that, you know. And and that's
Speaker 2: There's a lot of things I can talk about life
Speaker 2: after death and they'll start knocking. There's I mentioned my
Speaker 2: father's death, the different several different families that I talked to,
Speaker 2: and several different one of them would knock immediately as
Speaker 2: if they were I called that an honor knock, you know,
Speaker 2: like they're honoring, Oh, your father died. I'm sorry to
Speaker 2: hear that, brother, you know, just that kind of response.
Speaker 2: They speak to us with knox whoops, snaps, rocks thrown,
Speaker 2: you know, whatever, and not everything at all, Not everything,
Speaker 2: especially in my life, is you know, the threatening at all.
Speaker 2: And at this point, if they started throwing rocks at
Speaker 2: me in a serious way, and I don't mean just little,
Speaker 2: you know, pebbles or something like big rocks, I would
Speaker 2: think they were doing it to me for my safety,
Speaker 2: like there was danger nearby and they were warning me.
Speaker 2: And I immediately I've told them that. Now I've said,
Speaker 2: y'all start throwing big rocks at me. At this point,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna assume it's because I need to get
Speaker 2: the f out of here, you know, for whatever reason.
Speaker 2: And I have had them protect me from a bear,
Speaker 2: and I actually do have that recording. It's two minutes
Speaker 2: forty seven seconds long. I think on there. Now, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I didn't see the bear, so I don't
Speaker 2: know what it was they were protecting me from. That
Speaker 2: they did indicate to me that they did protect me
Speaker 2: from something and while I was up there is I'm
Speaker 2: also a spirit medium and I've kind of used that
Speaker 2: ability to talk to Sasquatch and so Ib people because
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you ninety nine point nine percent of
Speaker 2: the time, you're never going to see them, and it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter how close you are to them, and it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter what the laws of physics are. It's just like,
Speaker 2: we don't care. This is how we are, and you
Speaker 2: just accept it. A lot of people get hung up
Speaker 2: on that. Once you get past those points of you know, like,
Speaker 2: oh wow, they can do this, they can do that.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's always going to be amazing and I'm
Speaker 2: curious about it. But at the same time, focus on
Speaker 2: a friendship with them. If you really want to get
Speaker 2: close to them. And I'm not talking to people who
Speaker 2: are manipulative or trying to get you know, I want
Speaker 2: to get close to something so I get a picture. Now,
Speaker 2: if you're going to be that way, they know, they
Speaker 2: know your intentions. They can feel your machines. These are
Speaker 2: beings that live without machines. They can feel every machine
Speaker 2: around them. They're that sensitive. We are so desensitized, you know,
Speaker 2: We've had so much light in our face that we're
Speaker 2: used to light. We don't get mad when a car
Speaker 2: light shines in our eyes. But if you've lived a
Speaker 2: life where you've never dealt with artificial light until someone,
Speaker 2: until a human, shine a car car light in your eyes,
Speaker 2: you would be angry. You know, it just triggers that reaction.
Speaker 2: It does to me. I'm a blue eyed human at night.
Speaker 2: If someone shines light eyes, that triggers anger to me
Speaker 2: for some reason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the same way. I hate it, Like if
Speaker 1: I'm out and walking the dog or something oncoming traffic
Speaker 1: they got their brights on and I can't stand.
Speaker 2: That bright light exactly, and so take that feeling and
Speaker 2: then amplify at times what I don't know forty and
Speaker 2: then that's the Susquatch people. We're not a lot of us,
Speaker 2: are you know a lot of us as researchers, And
Speaker 2: I'm not speaking against everyone at all, but more of
Speaker 2: us need to try to empathize with them, or sympathize
Speaker 2: with them however we can, you know, to try to
Speaker 2: put ourselves in their positions, because they have been hiding
Speaker 2: out from everything we've done for the last and this
Speaker 2: goes back. I mean, I could go down a big
Speaker 2: rabbit hole, but if you really want to go as
Speaker 2: far back as it goes, we're talking five hundred thousand
Speaker 2: years at least, and a lot of people think they
Speaker 2: come from another planet and this other stuff, and I can't.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit there and say those people
Speaker 2: are wrong, we're blah blah blah bad mouth those people.
Speaker 2: That would be wrong for me to do. What I
Speaker 2: will say is, in my experience, I found the truth
Speaker 2: to be something other than that that they've been here
Speaker 2: since long before we were here. They've been here long
Speaker 2: before our religions. When people try to call them the Nephalom,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I smacked myself in the head so many times.
Speaker 2: I'm a preacher's son. I know what the nephelm are.
Speaker 2: I've studied this, and I went back and studied it
Speaker 2: more because of you know, because of other people, other
Speaker 2: humans calling them nephalim. The that refers to if people
Speaker 2: don't know the sons of Gosh, what was it the
Speaker 2: giants and the Bible from the Earth that they're spoken
Speaker 2: of in Genesis, and then of course they're spoken of
Speaker 2: in the Apo. For more like in the Book of
Speaker 2: Nut and so on. But uh, anyway, there, what I
Speaker 2: found is that that was actually the story of the Ananaki,
Speaker 2: and the Ananaki actually might have and I believe this,
Speaker 2: that they created us as humans, and then they imprinted
Speaker 2: on our DNA to worship them, to worship something outside
Speaker 2: of ourselves, to not feel the love of a creator
Speaker 2: or a god or whatever you want to call it
Speaker 2: in your own heart so greatly, and and we and
Speaker 2: then they told us they were gods. And you know,
Speaker 2: the Emerald Tablets say they actually fear a retribution for
Speaker 2: what they did. They fear a judgment from something greater
Speaker 2: than them for what they have done on this earth.
Speaker 2: But it also speaks that I believe both. According to
Speaker 2: Billy Carson, on the Emerald Tablets, Toth wrote that he
Speaker 2: he left a group of those beings because he didn't
Speaker 2: want to be with him anymore, because he didn't really
Speaker 2: want to rule over him, rule over anything. And he
Speaker 2: went to Mexico. I think it's Quasi Codal. I think
Speaker 2: that's the name of the city where the pyramids, some
Speaker 2: of the Mayan pyramids. They think they're Mayan or you know,
Speaker 2: but they're not. According to Billy Carson that those signs
Speaker 2: are from the omes that both brought over with him,
Speaker 2: and and those pyramids Tooth built and the quasi codal
Speaker 2: can translate to city of Toth, which is amazing. Ye. Anyway,
Speaker 2: when he when Tooth went over there, he said he
Speaker 2: encountered Harry Barbarians and that I'm like, wow, there's all
Speaker 2: the early human species right there, all the ones. What
Speaker 2: was that little thing that made us change and made
Speaker 2: our brains evolve? And it was alien influence is what
Speaker 2: it was. Absolutely, and I'm I'm totally convinced of that.
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that, you know, you throw out every
Speaker 2: bit of religion or every bit of this or every
Speaker 2: bit of that. There's truth and everything and it probably
Speaker 2: all connects somehow, if we'll.
Speaker 1: Just I think it does. I think everything is connected.
Speaker 1: I don't believe in coincidence.
Speaker 2: I think it's synchronicity, yes, exactly. And you know I
Speaker 2: was a saved Christian, you know, and I guess if
Speaker 2: you want to say I still am once saved, I
Speaker 2: always say I don't know whatever. But and no disrespect
Speaker 2: to Christianity or Christians at all, you know, have a
Speaker 2: Christian family, you know, to honor that, but uh, I've
Speaker 2: I've had to change my views on things, and it's
Speaker 2: been very difficult. It's been very hard because I've always
Speaker 2: taken my spirituality so seriously. And even beyond that, I've
Speaker 2: been visited by deities. Uh I'm a witch or I
Speaker 2: was a witch. I've kind of dropped that now because
Speaker 2: I was getting visits from these deities and some of
Speaker 2: them turned out to be connected to the enn Inaki
Speaker 2: and to Atlantis, And I'm like, didn't you guys blow
Speaker 2: yourselves up? You know, and don't you just keep aren't
Speaker 2: you just here to help us keep repeating these stupid
Speaker 2: cycles over and over? And didn't we take the earth?
Speaker 2: Didn't we all take the earth from these hairy people before?
Speaker 2: Shouldn't we be working on getting this this, you know,
Speaker 2: getting things back together and then balance here? This is
Speaker 2: it's crazy now, but I believe these bloodlines are in
Speaker 2: some of the people in control nowadays. I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: name any names or go political or anything like that,
Speaker 2: but I'd say it's in every political group, you know,
Speaker 2: some way, some some force or fashion, but form or fashion,
Speaker 2: but either way, we're all dealing with it. So you know,
Speaker 2: we're all kind of seeing a lot of people think
Speaker 2: it favors them and it doesn't fit. This is just
Speaker 2: for more control, and this is exactly what the End
Speaker 2: and Aki did when they first came here. So when
Speaker 2: I started after a while of having these visions for
Speaker 2: over twenty years, I've been having these visions twenty six years,
Speaker 2: and they were talking to me.
Speaker 3: They were real.
Speaker 2: This was something I could physically feel. I'm not schizophrenic.
Speaker 2: It's not something I need medication for or anything like that.
Speaker 2: It was actually at once I banished them. I haven't
Speaker 2: heard from him since. And they would make lights in
Speaker 2: the sky for me if I asked them to, and
Speaker 2: a lot of times the only witnesses I had around
Speaker 2: with the Sasquatch people. That's I big people. So you know,
Speaker 2: it's not like I can say, well, go ask them.
Speaker 3: You know, I didn't.
Speaker 2: I'm not a camera person. I don't use cameras or
Speaker 2: flashlights when I'm out there, and it upsets them. And
Speaker 2: I don't really want people using cameras and flashlights on
Speaker 2: me without my permission. So I just look at it
Speaker 2: that way and honor it. And I did accidents. I
Speaker 2: told them I use audio. I showed them what it is.
Speaker 2: I said, all it does is here, and I put
Speaker 2: my hand near my ear and cut my ear and
Speaker 2: I said, it can't see and I covered my eyes.
Speaker 2: And they know I'm telling the truth because I always
Speaker 2: speak the truth to them, and so they you know,
Speaker 2: they oblige me with that. And I always tell him
Speaker 2: promise that I won't tell people where they are except
Speaker 2: for my close family and friends, and that's just to
Speaker 2: take them, you know, if I want to take them
Speaker 2: with me out there or something like that. And I
Speaker 2: have friends that that I do this with and they
Speaker 2: are firm witnesses as to what goes on. One of
Speaker 2: them still doesn't even believe in sasquatch, and he says
Speaker 2: he hears everything we hear, and he'll say, I don't
Speaker 2: know what that is. And we actually both saw one
Speaker 2: that was in its invisible form in the rain, and
Speaker 2: he still doesn't believe. But it was invisible and it
Speaker 2: was just a large and it looked like the predator.
Speaker 2: It really did just like And even Bruce, is he
Speaker 2: a doctor, I know he's a scientist. Bruce mcabee.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, his wife was hurting stand with bow and
Speaker 1: arrow and something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're telling the story. Thank you. Yes, people can
Speaker 2: look this story up. He tells the same story that
Speaker 2: looks like something like the predator was swinging from tree
Speaker 2: to tree two of them, and went by his wife
Speaker 2: and then went by him. They both saw it and
Speaker 2: it like came right up in their face, but there
Speaker 2: was no real form to it, you know, no no definition.
Speaker 2: And but anyways, the place where I actually ended up
Speaker 2: having my first known encounter because I had an encounter
Speaker 2: before that, but I never knew what it was at
Speaker 2: the time. And then after this other encounter has happened,
Speaker 2: I went back and like, oh, I know who you are.
Speaker 2: Now made friends with them. But my first known encounter
Speaker 2: was a forty five minute standoff. I didn't I don't
Speaker 2: use weapons, so I didn't, you know. I mean, I'll
Speaker 2: use a weapon against a bad human. Don't get me wrong,
Speaker 2: but I don't use Certainly, I'm not raising a weapon,
Speaker 2: not even against animals. I use ther monica and that
Speaker 2: scares away most animals so and it attracts sasquatch so
Speaker 2: and that really does work. A survivor man left straws
Speaker 2: one who said, who promoted that idea? I'm not sure
Speaker 2: that I'd go, you know, running around grizzlies and doing that.
Speaker 2: But black bear anything like that, you know, it'll it
Speaker 2: or get you, get those things away from you. And
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: I figured it would either scare them or piss them
Speaker 1: off and they come after you.
Speaker 2: But no, that scares them away. They can't stand the
Speaker 2: sound right away.
Speaker 1: Carry harmonica with you.
Speaker 2: No, it's saved me twice. The one time that they
Speaker 2: had to knock and scare something away was because I
Speaker 2: couldn't see it. I didn't know what it was. I
Speaker 2: just heard it running around, you know. But uh, anyways,
Speaker 2: I know I'm bunny trailing and running off here a lot.
Speaker 2: But AnyWho, it's getting back to where I almost feel
Speaker 2: like this Earth should be like a national park in
Speaker 2: the universe. Yeah, only so many humans should be allowed
Speaker 2: to live here. And what's uh, darkly convenient, morbidly convenient,
Speaker 2: is that we are on the cusp of a possible
Speaker 2: pull shift. And I know a lot of people don't
Speaker 2: believe in that, but even the science is there, as
Speaker 2: the scientific papers are there, and it's also been shown
Speaker 2: to be something that are Cia is known about and
Speaker 2: tried to hide from us, and they even tried to
Speaker 2: strict stick some disinformation in there about it. And this
Speaker 2: was long ago, actually several years ago first, but suspicious
Speaker 2: observers on YouTube, and I don't you may or may
Speaker 2: not agree with his politics, if he talks about politics
Speaker 2: at all, but his science is spot on, and it's
Speaker 2: it's very hard to argue with that our Earth's magnetic
Speaker 2: field is weakening, and all the geology, all the data
Speaker 2: shows that we have six we have floods. We have
Speaker 2: major catastrophic events on the Earth every fifteen hundred and
Speaker 2: three thousand and six thousand years, and we're due for
Speaker 2: another six thousand year event. And this will fall in
Speaker 2: line with the stories of the floods that we've heard before,
Speaker 2: you know, from Noah to the Epic of Gilgamesh, so
Speaker 2: and and other indigenous stories, many stories that tell of
Speaker 2: the flood. Heck, there's stories of the Earth before there
Speaker 2: was a moon, you know, so that someone's been here
Speaker 2: a long time, keeping record or whatever. But we're on
Speaker 2: the cusp of that that time now. And that's that's
Speaker 2: according to science. That's not according to me. And you know,
Speaker 2: if maybe they got the science wrong, I don't know.
Speaker 2: But there's so much of it, there's so much evidence
Speaker 2: that they're he's showing every day on that channel that
Speaker 2: you can't argue with it. What's interesting is that the Navajo,
Speaker 2: the Ojibwe, and many other tribes of Native American peoples,
Speaker 2: and I'll let them speak for themselves. If people really
Speaker 2: want to know the truth, say that when the Hairy
Speaker 2: Man or whatever name they call it shows up all
Speaker 2: over the world, that the end times will come or
Speaker 2: a great change will come on the earth. And another
Speaker 2: thing that's very interesting and convenient is that the hairy Man.
Speaker 2: It's not that everyone in the world has to see
Speaker 2: the hairy Man or see sasquatch, see the save. It's
Speaker 2: that if you look on bumper stickers, coffee mugs, t shirts,
Speaker 2: what are you seeing? You're seeing sasquatch everywhere, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's another way they would have envisioned that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I spoke at or I didn't speak. I
Speaker 1: went to a Squatch best in Longview, Washington, back I
Speaker 1: think it's twenty twenty one something like that, and they
Speaker 1: had the image of big Podha sasquatch save on everything
Speaker 1: you could imagine. I mean, it was the merch area
Speaker 1: is incredible I got a hall of T shirts and
Speaker 1: stickers and all kinds of stuff. But it's people know
Speaker 1: that symbol, that that outline of a hairy bipedal kreacher exactly.
Speaker 2: They know it, you know, pretty much at this point,
Speaker 2: I would think any anybody's living, well, if they don't know,
Speaker 2: then they probably know them personally, meaning they're probably far
Speaker 2: enough out in the woods already that you know, they
Speaker 2: already know them. But I do want to say that
Speaker 2: I believe there might be up and people are going
Speaker 2: to completely doubt me on this, and I don't care
Speaker 2: because they haven't done the research that I've done. I
Speaker 2: believe there might be up to three billion of them
Speaker 2: on the planet right now, and they completely cloak themselves,
Speaker 2: all of them do. I've had one disappear right behind me.
Speaker 2: It was standing three feet behind me, and it was
Speaker 2: in the bright moonlight, and I turned around and watched
Speaker 2: a massive seven and a half to eight foot tall
Speaker 2: silhouette just disappear right behind me, very slowly. I actually
Speaker 2: only saw the arm and the tricep muscle, the forearm,
Speaker 2: the delt, you know, the shoulder, a little bit of
Speaker 2: the head and the neck, and then it just it vanished,
Speaker 2: and it was almost like it's almost like you're in
Speaker 2: a CGI movie when stuff like that happens, because your
Speaker 2: brain can't process it. You cannot process that, and you
Speaker 2: just you either kind of get stuck on that, hung
Speaker 2: up on it and that can go very deep, or
Speaker 2: you just say okay, that ha, and then you just
Speaker 2: go on about your conversation, you know, and just say, well,
Speaker 2: I think your brother just disappeared behind me here, But
Speaker 2: just laugh about it and go on because they're not
Speaker 2: going to hurt you, you know, if there's like, if
Speaker 2: you're peaceful with them, they're not going to hurt you.
Speaker 2: But you have to be peaceful and deep in your heart,
Speaker 2: you know, meaning that it's never about manipulation. It's never
Speaker 2: about what you can get out of it other than
Speaker 2: a friendship, you know, a good honest friendship. But uh,
Speaker 2: I had that first encounters a forty five minutes stand off,
Speaker 2: and it I thought something was gonna kill me that night.
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't leave. If I really thought something was
Speaker 2: gonna kill me, I guess I would have left. And
Speaker 2: it wasn't until I sang, I mean they What happened
Speaker 2: was I got to the place and It's a place
Speaker 2: where I've been watching for UFOs for probably three years,
Speaker 2: and I will go up there by myself. It's an
Speaker 2: own UFO hot spot, and I will sit there and
Speaker 2: watch for hours. And I realized that I just love
Speaker 2: being out there, whether I saw anything or not. I
Speaker 2: did see a lot of stuff out there, but I
Speaker 2: just loved out there. It was very peaceful, and I
Speaker 2: was kind of pointing my life where I was aloof
Speaker 2: and just like, well, I don't know where I'm going
Speaker 2: with the rest of my life here, so I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna go here every night until if it makes me happy,
Speaker 2: you know. And so I go out there for several
Speaker 2: hours a night and just hang out. There were several
Speaker 2: times I heard trees push down. I think I heard
Speaker 2: seven trees push down total in about two or three
Speaker 2: summers or a year. It wasn't just summers, it was
Speaker 2: also in the winter that I would be out there,
Speaker 2: but uh, and I would hear the trees push down.
Speaker 2: And I'm a horticulturist, so I know what causes trees
Speaker 2: to fall down, and it would be no wind blowing,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, that's very odd. You know, the chances
Speaker 2: of a tree falling down and no wind blowing or
Speaker 2: you know, very very very low can happen, but very
Speaker 2: very low. And then large trees. And then one night
Speaker 2: sounded like a boulder game come crashing down the mountain,
Speaker 2: but I never saw anything. Another night, an elk came
Speaker 2: running down the middle of the road, and I just
Speaker 2: saw these two big yellow eyes coming down and middle
Speaker 2: of the road at first, and then you know, realized
Speaker 2: it was an elk, But I've never seen it. After
Speaker 2: I thought about it, and after I spent more time
Speaker 2: out there, that's the one and only time I've seen
Speaker 2: an elk just running down the road. And elk don't
Speaker 2: run for they they only run for a reason that
Speaker 2: makes any sense, at least from what I've witnessed. We
Speaker 2: have reintroduced elk here.
Speaker 1: So they just kind of lope along. They don't seem
Speaker 1: to get in any hurry, like you said, that something's
Speaker 1: after them, or they get spooked or something in their.
Speaker 2: Car, you know, yeah, if there's a car around or something.
Speaker 2: But there was no cars even coming or going anywhere,
Speaker 2: and it was running right down the middle of the road.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's just that was odd to me. And
Speaker 2: then one night some bear hunters came up and I
Speaker 2: talked to them for a little while, and I asked
Speaker 2: them if they had seen the lights, and they said no,
Speaker 2: and I don't want to see the lights. That's what
Speaker 2: they told me. They said, I've heard about them. I
Speaker 2: don't want to see them. And uh, they said, I've
Speaker 2: just come here to bear hunt, and so they're not
Speaker 2: into the paranormal stuff. But they were driving off in
Speaker 2: this gator and not a car truck, a gator, which
Speaker 2: is kind of like ATV or something like that, you know,
Speaker 2: with a roof on it, glorified golf cart more or less.
Speaker 2: And they were playing some music and their dogs were
Speaker 2: barking and stuff. And as they got on down the road,
Speaker 2: it's almost like out of that sound, that sound disappeared.
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, I heard two voices
Speaker 2: talking near me. And I've heard sasquatch talk since then,
Speaker 2: and I can say what I heard didn't really sound
Speaker 2: like sasquatch. I would have guessed it more as little
Speaker 2: people or something like that. But it scared me so bad,
Speaker 2: and nothing scares me. It scared me so bad that
Speaker 2: I was I froze for three seconds, and then I
Speaker 2: got up the courage to say, I hear you keep
Speaker 2: talking like and I had to like push it out
Speaker 2: of me. And then as soon as I said that,
Speaker 2: it stopped. And to this day, I really don't know
Speaker 2: exactly what that was. There's a lot that goes on
Speaker 2: up there, and there's a lot more than just sasquatch
Speaker 2: up there. So but anyway, uh, I one night people
Speaker 2: kept telling me that there were sasquatch up there. I
Speaker 2: kept hearing stories. And then so one night on the
Speaker 2: way up there, I said, hey, you know, if there's
Speaker 2: a sasquatch, you know, like experience them. You know, I've
Speaker 2: never had that. It's on my bucket list. Never experienced that.
Speaker 2: As far as I know, I've experienced a lot of
Speaker 2: paranormal stuff. Never sasquatch. I battled with demons, never dealt
Speaker 2: with a sasquatch.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: And uh, anyway, I drove up there and I did
Speaker 2: two tree knocks on the on the wooden sign out there,
Speaker 2: and and then I backed off. I just put my
Speaker 2: it was it's a club I carried with me, a
Speaker 2: wooden club I carried with me. And I backed off
Speaker 2: and put it back in the car and started watching
Speaker 2: for the lights completely forgot about those street knocks. Twenty
Speaker 2: minutes later on this embankment up behind me. I'm in
Speaker 2: the mountain, so you got high embankments behind you, you know,
Speaker 2: instead of just a little small ones. I hear crash, crash, bang, crash, boom,
Speaker 2: just all the sounds you can imagine that a sasquatch
Speaker 2: would make when they're angry. Every I was hearing all
Speaker 2: of it, except for not a lot of vocal just
Speaker 2: just you know, a lot of physical activity. And I'm
Speaker 2: kind of tripping out. I don't really know what I'm
Speaker 2: dealing with. I totally forgot about the tree knocks that
Speaker 2: I did, wouldn't think. I just did not think it
Speaker 2: at all. And I was literally thinking is that a
Speaker 2: rabbit elk? Before I was thinking is that a sasquatch?
Speaker 2: You know, the chances of it being a rabbit elk
Speaker 2: are you know, pretty much not at all, you know,
Speaker 2: especially on the embankment on the side of a hill.
Speaker 2: Even bears, black bears don't run well on the side
Speaker 2: of an embankment. They usually run straight up or down it.
Speaker 2: It's hard to walk sideways, you know, in an embankment.
Speaker 2: And this thing's just breaking trees and cracking this and that,
Speaker 2: you know, And anyway, this goes on for thirty minutes
Speaker 2: to the point where I've turned my car around towards
Speaker 2: the embankment, which was, you know, one hundred and eighty
Speaker 2: degrees behind me. So I've turned my car around one
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty degrees and I'm shining my five thousand
Speaker 2: lemon flashlight up there, and I'm standing with my light
Speaker 2: my left hand and my keys and my right hand,
Speaker 2: and I'm in the door of my car with it open,
Speaker 2: and I'm ready to get the fuck. I'm ready to
Speaker 2: get the f out of their pardon me. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, I want to know what's going on.
Speaker 2: And uh so, all this keeps going on for thirty
Speaker 2: minutes at this point, and then I start singing songs,
Speaker 2: and I sang three songs in a row. I sang
Speaker 2: Sam Cooks, the Change is Gonna Come. I sang the
Speaker 2: Cherokee Morning Song, and then I sang uh gosh. I
Speaker 2: can't remember. It might have been Ray Law Montagne or something.
Speaker 2: I was just I'm a singer, you know, I sing
Speaker 2: out of bars. So I just singing whatever came to mind,
Speaker 2: because I remembered that I guess something. It was almost
Speaker 2: like a DNA memory. It's just like I just started
Speaker 2: it sings like I'm gonna sing and see if that works.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was weird, but I know I later remembered hearing
Speaker 2: stories about, you know that the indigenous tribes when they
Speaker 2: would go in the territories of the Sasquatch, it would
Speaker 2: often they were peace with them. They would sing to
Speaker 2: them or take them some food or something. Hey, we're
Speaker 2: just here, you know, we're at peace. We just need
Speaker 2: to get what we need to get from here, and
Speaker 2: we're not trying to ur eager take any of your thing,
Speaker 2: and then we'll get out of here. And so it
Speaker 2: was a mutual understanding. So they could go in singing
Speaker 2: and they, you know Sasquatch here I'm singing, say oh, well,
Speaker 2: they're coming to bring us fairs and they need to
Speaker 2: do their thing and then I'll get out here. And
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about them. But uh so it was
Speaker 2: just instinctual though, for me to start singing for some reason.
Speaker 2: So I sang those three songs. It got completely quiet,
Speaker 2: completely quiet, singing those three songs, no sound. I was like,
Speaker 2: this is weird. And once I stopped, stopped singing those
Speaker 2: three songs. They it's crash crash, frag crash fang, just
Speaker 2: going crazy again. And at that point I said, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm dealing with the Sasquatch. And I yelled up at
Speaker 2: the ridge. I said, hey, brother, I am not your enemy.
Speaker 2: I'm not I don't have any weapons, I don't mean
Speaker 2: any harm. I said, please do not run me off
Speaker 2: from my favorite place. Like that, it got quiet for
Speaker 2: two minutes, two whole minutes, just and then after that
Speaker 2: I heard back the same sound that I made when
Speaker 2: I got there, not knock. And then I felt in
Speaker 2: my heart they were saying, you can stay, just don't
Speaker 2: upset us.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: And I literally went back to just watching for the lights.
Speaker 2: And I know I was thinking about it. I don't
Speaker 2: remember what I was thinking after that happened, but I
Speaker 2: did not leave. And I might be the only human
Speaker 2: in the world that's ever not been run off before
Speaker 2: after a forty five minute standoff. Might be I don't know,
Speaker 2: there might be others out there. I wouldn't put it
Speaker 2: past some indigenous people for sure. Yeah, ground well, and
Speaker 2: you have to stand your ground peacefully because they have
Speaker 2: a code and they're not going to break that code
Speaker 2: as long as you don't break there, sorry, as long
Speaker 2: as you don't break their code, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 2: So they have a code for humans too, So if
Speaker 2: we do certain things, then if you take from them,
Speaker 2: they're allowed to take from you. If you go and
Speaker 2: build a home somewhere and you cut down their trees
Speaker 2: and then you bring cows in, and you know, you
Speaker 2: start raising cattle, and then they start taking your cattle,
Speaker 2: that's legal to them in their minds, and it's actually
Speaker 2: not wrong technically by the laws of nature, you know,
Speaker 2: because they don't live by the laws of man, nor
Speaker 2: does this world. And that's what a lot of people
Speaker 2: don't understand. You know, a lot of people think, well,
Speaker 2: everything should live by the according to the laws of
Speaker 2: man and according to the logic of man, and that
Speaker 2: if we are finite beings, we are here today, gone tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Do you realize not used personally, but do people realize that,
Speaker 2: you know, do people realize that they've been here? As
Speaker 2: far as I understand from talking to them, they've been
Speaker 2: here for since the earth began, or since life was
Speaker 2: on this earth, some of the first life. And I'm
Speaker 2: not saying you know that a fish crawled out of
Speaker 2: the ocean and started walking, and sasquatch was already here.
Speaker 2: I don't mean it that way. I just mean since
Speaker 2: the first you know, hominids were here, they were here.
Speaker 2: They were here as far as I understand. They keep
Speaker 2: telling me we're older than your man's religions, so anytime
Speaker 2: we try to apply religion to them, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: They're older than that. And they are a shamanic race
Speaker 2: of people. They do have magical abilities, and honestly, they
Speaker 2: actually believe in a creator. So I'm trying to get familiar.
Speaker 2: I'm going to I'm still on my spiritual path, you know,
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to get familiar with what they understand
Speaker 2: as a creator because they're such a great people that
Speaker 2: I want to know they're I don't I can't use
Speaker 2: the word god anymore, you know. I want to know
Speaker 2: they're a great spirit or whatever. I want to know
Speaker 2: what that is for them. But from what I understand
Speaker 2: talking to them, they do believe in some kind of creator,
Speaker 2: and they also have rules by that set by that
Speaker 2: creator that they and I asked them about. I heard
Speaker 2: this from Chuck Jacobs of the Arizona Four, where he's
Speaker 2: also another great person interviewer. Check out on YouTube or
Speaker 2: you know Steve if you want interview him. But uh,
Speaker 2: he was recently on a flash of beauty I think revealed.
Speaker 2: But uh, anyways, Chuck's a great guy and he said that, uh,
Speaker 2: what was it?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Shoot, I just lost my train of thought. I apologize, brother,
Speaker 2: Hang on a second and I'll get it back.
Speaker 4: Though.
Speaker 2: What was it that Chuck said that? Oh? That?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Oh? The creator told them that they are not to
Speaker 2: be seen on camera and and not to be seen
Speaker 2: unless I guess it's agreed with with the creator. So
Speaker 2: like there's certain times where they will let themselves see you,
Speaker 2: but they don't. They don't want people trying to see them,
Speaker 2: and it's against the creator's laws for them to be
Speaker 2: seen that way. As much as possible, Patty got seen
Speaker 2: because she did not understand what a camera was, and
Speaker 2: the Patterson Gimblin film This Is This Is as a
Speaker 2: By the way, I also took primatology and conservation, and
Speaker 2: so I also have an understanding behavioral primates. I did
Speaker 2: not finish. I am a dropout student because I clashed
Speaker 2: with them on the whole Sasquatch subject so much. But
Speaker 2: either way, I still learned enough from that to be
Speaker 2: able to communicate with them very well. And then the
Speaker 2: mediumship comes in with the mind speak and stuff, because yes,
Speaker 2: they do communicate telepathically. But anyways, uh, from what you know,
Speaker 2: from what Chuck told me that they are, they are
Speaker 2: from what I've heard on the YouTube. Sorry, he had
Speaker 2: spoken on YouTube that that they don't want the creator
Speaker 2: does not want them to have a picture taken to them.
Speaker 2: So I honor that, you know, and I tell them that,
Speaker 2: And we don't have to know their reasons, whatever their
Speaker 2: reasons are. We have to honor their reasons. There are
Speaker 2: more ancient people than we are. And and we is
Speaker 2: a not you, not necessarily I, but we as a
Speaker 2: people have taken everything from them. Yeah, and we we're
Speaker 2: gonna have to give back because we're There's gonna be
Speaker 2: a reckoning. That's just the way the universe works. There's
Speaker 2: going to be reckoning at some point. It doesn't mean
Speaker 2: they're going to come out of the woods and attack everybody.
Speaker 2: That's not what I'm saying. I just mean from whatever
Speaker 2: creator there is, because there's a whole lot of uh,
Speaker 2: there's a whole lot of abominations on this planet, and
Speaker 2: we have been Humans may be some of the biggest.
Speaker 2: I mean, if we would look at ourselves and our behavior,
Speaker 2: we may be the biggest abomination.
Speaker 3: On this side.
Speaker 1: I hardly degree we're going to be the destruction of
Speaker 1: the planet.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that we're you know, the poll
Speaker 2: shift is coming, so that kind of just we have.
Speaker 2: I believe we have civilizations buried beneath our feet, and
Speaker 2: that's what a lot of other geologists and people are
Speaker 2: scientists are coming out now saying that this has been
Speaker 2: going on for a long time. I believe they found
Speaker 2: pyramids that Bermuda Triangle now that there are underwater there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's there's one underwater there, and I've
Speaker 1: covered a lot of those triangle things. But yeah, there's
Speaker 1: there's all kinds of stuff that we just as a
Speaker 1: people don't know anything about. And you know, even though
Speaker 1: I've lived here for thousands of years, there's all kinds
Speaker 1: of earth mysteries and things that are beyond their comprehension.
Speaker 1: Just a lot of the laws that we measure things
Speaker 1: by those are man's laws, and that doesn't mean anything
Speaker 1: to anything that's not man. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, and then man is only in control of this
Speaker 2: earth because aliens put us here, left us here more
Speaker 2: or less.
Speaker 1: Like an alien ant farm. I've heard that analogy before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean that's personally, that's how I feel.
Speaker 2: Other people are going to feel a different way and say, no,
Speaker 2: there's no way I was created by the Creator, the
Speaker 2: Lord God. The way I look at it is that
Speaker 2: aliens of these beings created humans. But there is But
Speaker 2: they can't create a soul, if that makes any sense,
Speaker 2: because the soul has love. It has that comes from
Speaker 2: something else. And if they're not of love, if they're
Speaker 2: doing if their acts are not of love, if their
Speaker 2: acts are narcissistic or sociopathic or psychopathic for that matter,
Speaker 2: which is how I'm judging them, then then they don't
Speaker 2: know that creator. So if they're humans can be born
Speaker 2: into this world. And even though our bodies may or
Speaker 2: may not have been created by these beings, at some
Speaker 2: point in time, maybe the creator puts the soul in us,
Speaker 2: if that makes sense. And we are organic, we are
Speaker 2: made up of this earth, we are made.
Speaker 3: Up of that.
Speaker 1: I had a professor in college one time, he had
Speaker 1: a frog there a deceased frog, a lab specimen frog,
Speaker 1: and he put it in a blender and liquefied it.
Speaker 1: And then he brought out another blender and poured everything
Speaker 1: that's the base elements that were required to make that frog,
Speaker 1: and said, there, you know, these are the same things.
Speaker 1: But why can't I make a frog.
Speaker 3: Out of that?
Speaker 1: Because all the stuff's there, And it just is a
Speaker 1: startling way to put that forth, But it's that spark
Speaker 1: of life. You know. You can take all this stuff
Speaker 1: and they I mean, they can grow stuff in a
Speaker 1: lab and things like that, but it's got to come
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 2: You can clone something, but does it have a soul
Speaker 2: or spirit? Or where does that soul or spirit come
Speaker 2: from if it does have one.
Speaker 1: And then I've heard that put forth as a behind
Speaker 1: the abductions and things that needs something from us, some
Speaker 1: sort of sustenance that they don't have. And I've heard
Speaker 1: it put forth that it's our very essence, our soul
Speaker 1: is what these creatures want and they have to get
Speaker 1: it from us because we're the only thing that has it.
Speaker 2: And here's another thing they've been trying. I think a
Speaker 2: lot of them, I'm not sure about all. I think
Speaker 2: a lot of them are quote unquote immortal. And actually
Speaker 2: if you look at that, what they've used that they've
Speaker 2: created these sarcophag guy to somehow regenerate their bodies. Apparently
Speaker 2: they're afraid to die, is what I'm saying. Think about that.
Speaker 2: Why would you be afraid to die? What are you
Speaker 2: afraid that? What's going to happen after you die? That
Speaker 2: you're afraid of? You get what I mean? What did
Speaker 2: you do in this life? Now? Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2: There's good people that fear death, and they shouldn't. They
Speaker 2: really shouldn't. Nobody should fear death. I'm not saying we
Speaker 2: should jump run and jump into it. Either, live life,
Speaker 2: make the best of your life. You will have a
Speaker 2: good death and meaning a good death, meaning an honorable death,
Speaker 2: and you'll feel in your heart I have lived a
Speaker 2: satisfied life, you know. I live the best life you can,
Speaker 2: truly every day. But would why should we fear death?
Speaker 2: Why should we fear death? What have we really done wrong?
Speaker 2: Is humans? I mean, there's a lot you could say
Speaker 2: that we've done unconsciously, but what have we done consciously wrong?
Speaker 2: You know? And I can't speak for everybody, and you
Speaker 2: can't speak for everybody either, right, So obviously because there
Speaker 2: are narcissistic, sociopathic, psychopathic people out there and they're gonna
Speaker 2: have to It's like you're reckoning with your own soul
Speaker 2: when you die. Really as way, I love that.
Speaker 1: There's things you've done and and didn't do that you'll
Speaker 1: have to answer for. I believe that wholeheartedly.
Speaker 2: And so if it's not, it's not going to just
Speaker 2: be us and and I'm not. I will not bow
Speaker 2: to alien gods that call themselves gods, you know, I
Speaker 2: will not. They never and the ones I've been visited
Speaker 2: by never asked me to do that. They told me
Speaker 2: we were equals. They kept telling me they were we
Speaker 2: were equals. But what I did is, after twenty six
Speaker 2: years spending time with them, and then after spending three
Speaker 2: and a half years the Sasquatch people, I realized that
Speaker 2: I gained so much more substance from the Sasquatch people
Speaker 2: in three and a half years, and I gained nothing
Speaker 2: from those all these deities that were visiting me in
Speaker 2: the twenty six years. I said, Okay, this is not working,
Speaker 2: and plus some of you are probably in Anaki, so
Speaker 2: it's time to end this relationship. But the Sasquatch people
Speaker 2: have shown me what true they're all about love, family.
Speaker 2: They're very is from what I can tell, they're monogamous here.
Speaker 2: Maybe in places where there's less males they may not
Speaker 2: be so monogamous or less females. I don't know. That
Speaker 2: could be a possibility. But at the same time, I
Speaker 2: don't want to judge their behavior one way or another,
Speaker 2: because what they do in their world, you know, as
Speaker 2: opposed to what we do in our world, we can't
Speaker 2: call it right or wrong necessarily, you know, not everything anyway. Certainly,
Speaker 2: certainly there could be some things you could argue against.
Speaker 2: But but I haven't had any problems with them since
Speaker 2: that first standoff. If we have any issues, it's mild.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like they just tell me, like a friend, Hey,
Speaker 2: you need to quit doing this or doing that, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, no problem. You know, I play music
Speaker 2: for him sometimes, and I told them I wasn't going
Speaker 2: to play any heavy metal for him the other night,
Speaker 2: because I sometimes do play heavy metal, because I'll listen
Speaker 2: to hard rock and heavy metal, and they some of
Speaker 2: it they like, like they like some of the more
Speaker 2: melodic metal is okay.
Speaker 3: With them.
Speaker 2: They like Sound Garden and they like Typo Negative and
Speaker 2: Alison Chains and things like that some of it. But
Speaker 2: I played Iron Maiden it was wasted years, which I thought,
Speaker 2: you know, it's a great song, but you know, they don't.
Speaker 2: They're not from our world, so they don't hear it
Speaker 2: that way. All they heard was a man screaming at
Speaker 2: him from that little speaker while they're up on the embankment.
Speaker 2: And then a few minutes in the song, I heard
Speaker 2: the mail the father go what I believe to be
Speaker 2: the father say, and I could not understand what he
Speaker 2: was saying as far as his words. We said, and
Speaker 2: it's the only time I've heard him speak out loud
Speaker 2: like that. And that was just two or three months ago,
Speaker 2: maybe two months ago, and I knew in my heart
Speaker 2: what he was saying, even though I didn't understand one
Speaker 2: word of it. I knew in my heart exactly what
Speaker 2: he was saying. He was saying, why are you turn
Speaker 2: that music up loud? You said you were only going
Speaker 2: to play soft music tonight. I mean I heard the
Speaker 2: tones and the way he was saying it was just
Speaker 2: like i'd say it, you know, any other human like
Speaker 2: your neighbor yelling at hey, I thought you were going
Speaker 2: to play solve music night. What are you doing that for?
Speaker 2: And I said, I'm sorry, brother, and I turned it
Speaker 2: down and changing music a little bit. And then he
Speaker 2: stopped and always tell them good night and uh. And
Speaker 2: then as I was telling them good night, I said,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I turned that music. Uh, turn that loud
Speaker 2: music go. He he said, he said, you know, I said,
Speaker 2: I won't do that. He said, you know, so he
Speaker 2: understands exactly what I'm talking about. And they their brains,
Speaker 2: like as far as intelligence, they're beyond us. So we
Speaker 2: can have human conversations with them. They don't understand everything
Speaker 2: in the human world, but you can sit there and
Speaker 2: explain it. I try to. I explain everything from money
Speaker 2: to politics and government, you know, war as much as
Speaker 2: I can, and I try to be as unbiased about
Speaker 2: in it as possible, although I can't nowadays. But I
Speaker 2: won't go into that anymore. But you know, they know
Speaker 2: if I'm speaking truth or not. And they they they
Speaker 2: can make and I tell them, hey, you can you
Speaker 2: decide for yourself. You know, you don't have to base
Speaker 2: everything on what I say. I'm just trying to tell
Speaker 2: you what I the world as I see it, you know,
Speaker 2: as I understand it, as a modern human and that's
Speaker 2: what I call myself. I call us modern humans and
Speaker 2: uh and I call them sabe people, but I call
Speaker 2: them human too, and I call them brothers and sisters.
Speaker 2: But I like to separate us a little bit because
Speaker 2: we still need to change and they don't really have
Speaker 2: that problem like we do. And there are people that
Speaker 2: say that, you know, a lot of people leave Sasquatch,
Speaker 2: some Sasquatch are bad or something. I'm in contact with
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty families and that's according to location
Speaker 2: and them telling me when I ask them, are you
Speaker 2: a part of the last family I just talked to?
Speaker 2: Ley'll say no, you know. And if they are, they
Speaker 2: tell me they're honest. If you're honest with them, they're
Speaker 2: honest with you. They won't tell you secrets they don't
Speaker 2: want to tell you, but they will tell you basic
Speaker 2: things you may or may not need to know, you know,
Speaker 2: and they'll be honest about it. And they're always honest
Speaker 2: because I take them treat a lot of them treats
Speaker 2: you know, too, And so they don't try to trick
Speaker 2: me into getting more treats or anything like that. And
Speaker 2: all the treats they get they divide up evenly amongst
Speaker 2: their family, each family, and you know, it's just very
Speaker 2: they're very much more well organized social and they have
Speaker 2: a very good structure, a very good structure to those
Speaker 2: their their society that we don't realize until you spend
Speaker 2: a lot of time with them. And when I say
Speaker 2: a lot of time, I spend more time with sasquatches
Speaker 2: than I do humans. And I mean you could go
Speaker 2: a lot more time. I'd say probably two hours a
Speaker 2: day at least, you know, m hmm.
Speaker 1: Now I've got to ask you what kind of treats
Speaker 1: do they enjoy?
Speaker 2: A little debbie and they know it's crap and they
Speaker 2: don't care that you can't get that in the forest
Speaker 2: and it's only given. You don't give it to them
Speaker 2: every day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I get it. I love little debbies, but yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're pure garbage. But they're delicious, and well that's.
Speaker 2: What they want. They want. They they're like, they want,
Speaker 2: we want the sweet treats. We don't have this out
Speaker 2: in the forest. We got all the health food out here.
Speaker 2: We want the sweet treats or if I don't really cook,
Speaker 2: or but I do cook, but I don't bake. But
Speaker 2: if you know somebody wanted to bake them cookies or
Speaker 2: muffins or something like that and put a little extra
Speaker 2: love in it, they would appreciate that even more. To
Speaker 2: be honest with you, But it's very peaceful living with them.
Speaker 2: They do. They're very protective. If they live near you,
Speaker 2: they will watch over your home when you're gone. You
Speaker 2: have to get to that point with them where you're
Speaker 2: talking to them and friendly and you know, probably exchanging
Speaker 2: some treats now and then, and you know, you ask them, say,
Speaker 2: will you please just make sure no humans break into
Speaker 2: my home while I'm gone, And you can ask them
Speaker 2: in the way, and you can also remind them they
Speaker 2: don't have to be seen in doing that. They can
Speaker 2: zap humans and make us sick if they want to,
Speaker 2: or they can just make a loud sound or something.
Speaker 2: Then that might be enough. You know, it depends on
Speaker 2: how high the person is, I guess, and whatever drugs
Speaker 2: they're on. But either way, you can ask them to
Speaker 2: watch over your property, you can ask them watch over
Speaker 2: your family. And they have actually showed up at all
Speaker 2: my friends and families homes now, every single one of them.
Speaker 2: And anytime I go to those homes they're there. I'll
Speaker 2: go visit my friends or my family, and then I'll
Speaker 2: go outside and visit with the Sabe people, and I
Speaker 2: record every conversation just so I can show people, Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm not crazy. Here's a sound. And you know, the
Speaker 2: sounds are not always as obvious as people would like
Speaker 2: to think. Their sounds are very subtle. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of subtle stuff going on, and you really have to
Speaker 2: kind of learn to listen to them. They're going to
Speaker 2: blend their sounds in with whatever their environment is doing period.
Speaker 2: And when it comes down to it, there in their shamanism,
Speaker 2: they are a part of the rocks and the trees
Speaker 2: and the water and the earth and the animals and
Speaker 2: the plants. So people, some people think they shape shift,
Speaker 2: and I have asked them before if they can shape shift,
Speaker 2: and they have told me that they can. And now
Speaker 2: people are going to want to go say, oh, that's
Speaker 2: demonic and blah blah blah. No, I've dealt with demons.
Speaker 2: These are not demons. These are the furthest thing from
Speaker 2: demons I've ever dealt with. These are the nicest beings
Speaker 2: in the world I've ever met, and I can't imagine
Speaker 2: not knowing them, you know, and going on four years.
Speaker 2: I guess humans just aren't tasty enough to eat.
Speaker 1: So yeah, And I've heard that not only can they
Speaker 1: shape shift end o their creatures, but other things. I've
Speaker 1: heard a report of a guy that was standing out
Speaker 1: in his backyard one time looking at a stump and
Speaker 1: he's like, I don't remember that stump being there, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, it kind of turns into
Speaker 1: a figure and walks off into the tree line.
Speaker 2: I can tell you that I invited a book publisher
Speaker 2: here one night to have an encounter, and I guess
Speaker 2: it just wasn't meant to be. He brought two friends,
Speaker 2: and he was not supposed to bring but one friend,
Speaker 2: and that one friend he wasn't supposed to bring, which
Speaker 2: I didn't know the guy at all. But he kept
Speaker 2: standing up and looking around, and I told him you
Speaker 2: needed to sit down and relax, because they don't appreciate that,
Speaker 2: and because he was trying to see something. And what
Speaker 2: we ended up having was I heard of raccoons come
Speaker 2: through there, and I've never experienced that before, and they
Speaker 2: were climbing up every tree. I mean, it was literally
Speaker 2: to me, it was like I almost felt like the
Speaker 2: Sabbe just picked them up and gathered them up and
Speaker 2: threw them all in there.
Speaker 1: Let's let's mess with these people exactly.
Speaker 2: And it just and you could smell nothing but raccoons
Speaker 2: around and and and Sabe smell like bearing raccoon though
Speaker 2: they smell kind of that way. So I kind of
Speaker 2: got confused and said, well, I'll smell them, and they said, I,
Speaker 2: it's raccoons, you know. So they never believed me, and
Speaker 2: they ended up leaving one one guy. The other guy
Speaker 2: that came did hear one knock, and he admitted it.
Speaker 2: He said, I heard one response to you talking, but
Speaker 2: other than that, the publisher didn't hear anything. They were
Speaker 2: older men, and they you know, didn't hear very well.
Speaker 2: And you know, so they went on their way, and
Speaker 2: I guess it wasn't meant to be. And you know,
Speaker 2: I look like a fool in front, but I don't
Speaker 2: really care anymore. I understand that it's more important that
Speaker 2: the Sabbe people protect what they need to protect than
Speaker 2: look like a you know, genius or a fool and
Speaker 2: that and they will make you look I'm not saying
Speaker 2: it's not. We make ourselves look like fools a lot
Speaker 2: of times when we take other people out and try
Speaker 2: to prove things to them. Yeah, you know, and that's
Speaker 2: on us because you're putting them on the spot when
Speaker 2: you do that. You're putting the Sasquatch people on the
Speaker 2: spot if someone does that.
Speaker 1: And I've had that to be true just in the
Speaker 1: paranormal in general. If you go out expecting something to happen, nothing,
Speaker 1: nothing at all is going to happen. And the ninety
Speaker 1: nine point nine percent of the encounters and experiences that
Speaker 1: I've had, I was totally doing something else and it
Speaker 1: just happened. But yeah, you go somewhere to oh I'm
Speaker 1: going to go here, because it's had nothing, nothing at all.
Speaker 1: And that's just that's the nature of this cosmic priankster
Speaker 1: or whatever it is out there that allows these experiences
Speaker 1: to happen.
Speaker 2: I think, well, that's true, and it's true with Sasquatch
Speaker 2: to a point. But once you become friends with them,
Speaker 2: you can expect regular encounters all the time. And just
Speaker 2: you know, any anyone that lives with them will tell
Speaker 2: you that it's just when.
Speaker 1: I've heard they can read your mind. They know that
Speaker 1: your intent, what your intent is for being there. If
Speaker 1: you're there to expose them or to manipulate them, or
Speaker 1: to exploit them or something, then nothing's going to happen.
Speaker 1: But if you're out there genuinely seeking to make a bond,
Speaker 1: to make contact, and have the truest of intentions, then
Speaker 1: you're more likely to have an experience, and a positive
Speaker 1: one of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never not have an encounter. And when I
Speaker 2: say that, I can feel them without seeing them, seeing them,
Speaker 2: or hearing them, to the point where I can walk
Speaker 2: all right up to where they are and point to
Speaker 2: them and say you're right there, and they'll not back.
Speaker 2: Even though I can't see them, I can just feel them.
Speaker 2: I can feel them when I'm driving. If I'm driving
Speaker 2: down the road, I can just feel my heart saved.
Speaker 2: Pull over, you know. And I actually did that one
Speaker 2: night and pulled over, and thirty feet in front of
Speaker 2: my car, there was one in my lights walking down
Speaker 2: the mountain in front of me, and he was just
Speaker 2: casually walking away. I thought I was looking at the
Speaker 2: but end of an elk at first, and it literally
Speaker 2: looked like at the butt end of an elk and
Speaker 2: I and I'm realized after it happened, I realized that
Speaker 2: was my mind trying to cope with what I was
Speaker 2: seeing and trying to trying to frame it. And what
Speaker 2: I was seeing was a large cone head, red haired man,
Speaker 2: you know, with long arms and the bat his back
Speaker 2: and arms and his upper torso. And he just casually
Speaker 2: walked down there. I gave him, you know, I was
Speaker 2: already the point of respect with him. I turned my
Speaker 2: lights off immediately in car, because I don't do that. Spirit.
Speaker 2: I just felt spirit say to me, hey, pull in
Speaker 2: here right now. And then there he was. And and
Speaker 2: this is off of a fairly well known highway too,
Speaker 2: and at least around this area. But uh, I got
Speaker 2: I gave him ten seconds, and I got my audio ready,
Speaker 2: and then I got out of the car and I
Speaker 2: started singing. And I walked over to the edge of
Speaker 2: the embankment where he had walked down, and it was
Speaker 2: clear cut. All the trees had been cut down. It's
Speaker 2: for sale, and there was nothing there. There was no deer,
Speaker 2: no elk, nothing. If it had been deer elk, I
Speaker 2: would have heard him or seen them. Period. It was
Speaker 2: a moonlit night it was bright moonlight night. You know,
Speaker 2: stand on the embankment of a mountain. I can see
Speaker 2: down fine, and all the trees are laying on the ground.
Speaker 2: There was nothing there, nothing there, And the only other
Speaker 2: thing it could have been was an elk, and there
Speaker 2: was there was nothing. You know, and I've heard elk
Speaker 2: plenty of time in the woods. I know what they
Speaker 2: sound like. I know same thing with deer. You know,
Speaker 2: when you spend a lot of time out in the woods,
Speaker 2: you learn all your animal sounds pretty quick.
Speaker 1: And there's some animals that can make some weird sounds too.
Speaker 2: The bar makes the bard owve makes everyone think it's
Speaker 2: a sasquatch at first, and it's a barn owl her.
Speaker 1: Big cats that seemed to be mimicking a woman screaming too.
Speaker 2: Oh well, that yeah, those are panthers. I got another
Speaker 2: story for you. When I first moved into the home
Speaker 2: i'm in now, and this was probably maybe I've been
Speaker 2: in this home seventeen years. It was probably three or
Speaker 2: four years after I moved in. Maybe I was outside
Speaker 2: on the porch and one night and I heard what
Speaker 2: something make a call? And it did not sound like
Speaker 2: a panther, Because I later heard a panther in real life,
Speaker 2: and it was not a panther. I saw the panther too.
Speaker 2: This made a call. It sounded like a woman, but
Speaker 2: then it's then it went into a sound that sounded
Speaker 2: like a bird. Then it went into a sound that
Speaker 2: sounded like a cat or something like that. I can't
Speaker 2: remember the exact order, but it was like three different calls,
Speaker 2: and not simultaneutaneously, not all super synchronized, but one after
Speaker 2: the other, just kind of moving into a different colleague.
Speaker 2: That's actually way too intelligent for any known animal to do. Yep,
Speaker 2: And to this day, I can't tell you it was
Speaker 2: a sasquatch, but I don't know what that was.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of audio, you sent me some some clips
Speaker 1: here from your YouTube channel, and i'd like to play
Speaker 1: some of those on here with your permission and then
Speaker 1: get your commentary on you go ahead and get this
Speaker 1: one added in here, and I'll head plato. This is
Speaker 1: a sasquatch sawbe sounds, Kaldi house and Sabbie knocks, sabbee call,
Speaker 1: and possibly a thunderbird scream.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first the first one is in it. Because
Speaker 2: it's very short, I'll just go ahead and go through it.
Speaker 2: The first one's in Mississippi, and it's just it's, uh,
Speaker 2: it's coyotes howling, but if you put headphones on, there's
Speaker 2: another sound in there. It's like something else is screaming
Speaker 2: that I've heard before and compared it to other audio,
Speaker 2: but it's it's very hard to hear, so I just
Speaker 2: say it's coyotes. But uh, as the coyotes start howling,
Speaker 2: and that other howl comes in and you can't really
Speaker 2: hear it here, but uh, the sasquatch that where I
Speaker 2: was talking to and you'll hear me talking. I'm talking
Speaker 2: to them just like I would talking to humans. They
Speaker 2: knock three times or something like that after the coyotes
Speaker 2: start howling. Then the next recording, I'm on a mountain
Speaker 2: in North Carolina, and I'm saying a blessing to one
Speaker 2: sasquatch sabe family, a prayer to him for not a
Speaker 2: prayer to them, but for them before I leave him,
Speaker 2: and another sasquatch man from far away, probably over in
Speaker 2: East Tennessee, actually calls out to me and does a
Speaker 2: long what I call a long call, but it's a
Speaker 2: short long call. It's just a kind of like that.
Speaker 2: It sounds like a V eight engine is starting up
Speaker 2: and then it just cuts off completely, I mean from
Speaker 2: dead silence and then you know, like a V eight engine,
Speaker 2: then back to dead silence, but it's not a vight engine.
Speaker 2: And then the last one, and I don't know if
Speaker 2: you want to play the whole of it, but the
Speaker 2: last it right after that, it comes up on the screen.
Speaker 2: It says scream and it's an EVP that we recorded
Speaker 2: next to a waterfall that my friend and I did
Speaker 2: not hear. But it's so loud we should have heard it.
Speaker 2: We did not react to it. The Sasquatch people did
Speaker 2: not even react to it that we were talking to
Speaker 2: at the time. And it sounds like it just beyond that,
Speaker 2: it's not human, it's not Sasquatch, it's something completely different.
Speaker 2: I can only assume it's a thunderbird. I don't know
Speaker 2: what else to think it might be. And it was
Speaker 2: as a thunderstorm was coming in. It was lightning and thundering.
Speaker 1: And I've heard stories and the smokies of sightings, and
Speaker 1: here people hear what they think it a thunderbird.
Speaker 2: My friend from Cherokee, when I played her that audio,
Speaker 2: she told me that she heard it coming over the
Speaker 2: mountain from Tennessee the other night back to Cherokee. She
Speaker 2: heard it three times. And she doesn't lie. She's fifty
Speaker 2: something years old. She doesn't go around telling lies. She's
Speaker 2: actually part of the tribal council there. And then I
Speaker 2: said something about it on YouTube, just having the audio
Speaker 2: of it, and another guy wrote back to me and said,
Speaker 2: are you serious? And I thought he's being a smart
Speaker 2: elect and I said, yeah, what of it? And he
Speaker 2: said he had a friend that actually saw one and
Speaker 2: actually that everybody was pulled over on the side of
Speaker 2: the interstate. And I don't want to say where it was,
Speaker 2: but he told me where it was, and it's only
Speaker 2: about an hour from where I live. So he said
Speaker 2: they all saw it in the daylight, in the sunlight.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that is crazy. So apparently they're out there.
Speaker 2: And I've been talking to Sasquatches about him, and some
Speaker 2: of them knocked back immediately when I said thunderbird.
Speaker 3: Wow, they'll do that.
Speaker 2: They'll knock immediately before you finish a word if they're
Speaker 2: if they know something, or they want to interject, you know.
Speaker 1: Let me play some of this here and people listen,
Speaker 1: and I'll put links to your your YouTube channel in
Speaker 1: the uh the show notes for this episode, but let's
Speaker 1: let's have a lesson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it was a shooting star though, yup, yup.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's on healthy bodies, peace, love, healing and all those
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Speaker 2: all your people's babies, all your people's children, big brothers,
Speaker 2: big sisters, mothers and fathers, grandmothers and grandfathers. Are your
Speaker 2: people's elders and tribal leaders. Are your people's territories. Are
Speaker 2: your people in the spirit world, Thank you, brother. Are
Speaker 2: your people in the spirit world, all your people in
Speaker 2: this world, big people, little people, star people's spirit people.
Speaker 2: David's right, okay, yeah, see you need headphones for that.
Speaker 2: And here comes a scream. That is that was a.
Speaker 3: Skill he moving around in the rain.
Speaker 2: Sometimes the rest of it's just.
Speaker 6: That's what you're feeling. Just trying to use the lightning
Speaker 6: to look up or you know, I just look at
Speaker 6: the sky, the trees. My friend Brian was with me,
Speaker 6: honor their space. Now we don't have any work. I
Speaker 6: got some knives in the car, but we don't have
Speaker 6: any guns or anything like that at all.
Speaker 2: So that's a knock. I mean, yeah, huh, I did
Speaker 2: pick up a rock that bad. I would leave it here, dude,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I wouldn't take it. I would leave it here,
Speaker 2: take a picture of it or something. I'm taking pictures
Speaker 2: out here, not here.
Speaker 1: I want to tell you that I didn't want to
Speaker 1: take it out, you know.
Speaker 6: No, indeed, I learned if you take rocks on, spirits
Speaker 6: follow you home sometimes.
Speaker 2: Yeah did you hear that? Okay, he wants you to
Speaker 2: leave it here. Yeah, that was actually a louder knock
Speaker 2: than it sounded. But anyway, Yeah, he was up above
Speaker 2: the embankment on us and he was pretty much telling
Speaker 2: my friend, no, don't take that rock. We've put it
Speaker 2: right back down.
Speaker 1: And I've heard about that, you know, people taking rocks
Speaker 1: or sticks or something that they shouldn't have and brought
Speaker 1: stuff home with them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had spirits follow me home. And I learned
Speaker 2: that the hard way. So I actually went to Sedona
Speaker 2: and I went to Sunset Crater, Arizona. While I was
Speaker 2: out there and hiked up there, and there's nothing but
Speaker 2: volcanic rock, and I'm talking about like loose rock, and
Speaker 2: it got in the cuff of my pants, and I
Speaker 2: brought it back to North Carolina with me, and the
Speaker 2: cuff of my pants rolled up and it turned out
Speaker 2: to be like that Brady Bench episode for a minute.
Speaker 1: Yea, who they found a tiki? Yeah, I had.
Speaker 2: I had spirits. I had two Hispanic spirits in my
Speaker 2: home that were brothers, and they were like arguing with
Speaker 2: each other, and then another spirit and I had to
Speaker 2: have another medium come over and help me with it,
Speaker 2: and she helped me deal with it. She's someone I trust.
Speaker 2: She wouldn't have just sat and lied to me or
Speaker 2: anything and said, oh, well, I'm just making all this up.
Speaker 2: But no, you know, and she helped me with it,
Speaker 2: and I dealt with them, and I got rid of
Speaker 2: the rocks, and she's like, you need what she told me.
Speaker 2: She said, you got to get rid of these rocks.
Speaker 2: She was the one who said it, and she didn't
Speaker 2: even know I had them. She said, you got some
Speaker 2: rocks here that she got to get rid of. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, okay, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: And once I got rid of the rocks, I didn't
Speaker 2: have any more problems or anything.
Speaker 1: So, Yeah, I had a nurse come on a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago Linn mo Mone and she was talking about
Speaker 1: some kind of rocks that she had found and put
Speaker 1: it in her garden or something, and she had some
Speaker 1: kind of gnome or elf or some type of creatures
Speaker 1: show up that was just totally pissed because she had
Speaker 1: his rock and he wanted it back.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there are. Oh I've got stories about little people.
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
Speaker 1: That's another one I heard of. A different lady was
Speaker 1: telling me about a story.
Speaker 3: She was.
Speaker 1: Out picking up sticks or something out of the woods.
Speaker 1: I think she was doing like a wall hanging or
Speaker 1: something with macro may and she started seeing some kind
Speaker 1: of little stick creature in her home and causing all
Speaker 1: kinds of like pulling pranks and polter guyst like stuff.
Speaker 1: And she put those sticks back and whatever it was stopped,
Speaker 1: so she doesn't get sticks out of the woods anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That could either be an elemental or it could
Speaker 2: be one of those spirits that the more you fear it, it
Speaker 2: gains power and turns into something evil. But elemental beings
Speaker 2: can be pretty mean too if they want to. It
Speaker 2: just depends on, you know, somebody's pissed them off or not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got a story that I talk about in
Speaker 1: my second book, My Strange World, is autobiographical. Something chased
Speaker 1: me out of the woods one time when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, A couple of times that I couldn't see,
Speaker 1: but this further, this thing was big enough it shook
Speaker 1: the ground. I could feel the ground and see tree
Speaker 1: limbs a lot harder than my eight year old head
Speaker 1: being knocked out of the way, see the leaves being
Speaker 1: kicked up, and it's awake and stuff. But I could
Speaker 1: not see the thing. And I've had people tell me
Speaker 1: that that was some kind of elemental like a naiad
Speaker 1: or a dryad or something like that. I don't know
Speaker 1: it was where that's I'm like you, I don't scare easy,
Speaker 1: but that's one of the few times in my life
Speaker 1: that I've been absolutely terrified because I couldn't see whatever
Speaker 1: it was. You know, if it'd been something that I
Speaker 1: could see, that'd be one thing. But your brain just
Speaker 1: can't comprehend. You know, there's something there. I can see
Speaker 1: the effects that it's having on the woods, but I
Speaker 1: can't see it. And so when I was eight, and
Speaker 1: again when I was fifteen, in the same place and
Speaker 1: haven't been back to and oh gosh, forty five years now,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you can hear me. I
Speaker 1: may have lost your audio if you're saying anything I
Speaker 1: can't hear.
Speaker 2: Is that better?
Speaker 1: There you are again?
Speaker 2: Okay, see that fan problem. I apologize, man, no worries.
Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna step outside while I'm talking to you.
Speaker 2: But uh, I think what you're describing to me sounds
Speaker 2: like a sasquatch really, because when I talk to them,
Speaker 2: I don't see them at all, you know, I just
Speaker 2: hear them and I feel them. So I've seen them
Speaker 2: eight times. I've seen them enough to know what I'm
Speaker 2: talking to. But I'm you know, they're they're like that.
Speaker 2: It's something that's moving around the forest that you It
Speaker 2: can affect the forest without you seeing it, you know.
Speaker 2: So I don't think a lot of people understand that completely.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I wasn't there. I don't
Speaker 2: know what you experienced, and apparently you don't need.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what it was that I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't waste any time getting out of the woods
Speaker 1: either time. Yeah, But the way I came up with
Speaker 1: the explanation, I said it happened when I was eight
Speaker 1: and again when I was fifteen, same place. We were
Speaker 1: getting ready to move from there, and I grew up
Speaker 1: on a many farm. We had twenty six acres, only
Speaker 1: five of it was cleared, and I spent a lot
Speaker 1: of time out in the woods. And when I was fifteen,
Speaker 1: I went back up there. I hadn't been up there
Speaker 1: since I was eight, and I was just kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, looking around, saying, wonder what that was that
Speaker 1: scared me when I was a kid, same things. I
Speaker 1: heard it coming up out of the ditch, couldn't see it,
Speaker 1: chased me down the hill. I didn't run screaming and
Speaker 1: crying that time like I did when I was eight
Speaker 1: years old, but I didn't waste any time getting out
Speaker 1: of there. Then flashed forward a few more years, six
Speaker 1: more years. I was twenty one. I went to a
Speaker 1: party after work. The guy worked with invited me to.
Speaker 1: It was an apartment complex or condominiums or something down
Speaker 1: the street. There was a party in the clubhouse, and
Speaker 1: I didn't know anybody there except for him, and only
Speaker 1: knew him from work, so I didn't really know him
Speaker 1: at all. And there were some girls at this party
Speaker 1: playing around with the wage board and they went around
Speaker 1: the room asking everybody questions, and when they got to me,
Speaker 1: I thought, I got one for you. The only thing
Speaker 1: I said was what scared me when I was a
Speaker 1: kid with that incident in mind, And the wageboard spelled
Speaker 1: out W A t er spr I E water sprite,
Speaker 1: and they just kind of they looked at me, and
Speaker 1: I just shrugged my shoulders, and then they made some
Speaker 1: o the board's Thursday at want some water giving a
Speaker 1: sprite hahaha. Went on to somebody else, but I remembered
Speaker 1: that I went to the big library in downtown Knoxville
Speaker 1: on my next day off, I think it was the
Speaker 1: next day, and went to the reference library and said,
Speaker 1: what can you tell me about a water sprite or
Speaker 1: a water spirit? She went back in the stacks, came out,
Speaker 1: had some books and stuff there, and there were two
Speaker 1: two there was a niad and a dryad, and one
Speaker 1: of them was a guardian of the waters and the
Speaker 1: other one is a guardian of the trees. I think
Speaker 1: that the niad is the water spirit. But the strange
Speaker 1: thing about that property that we lived on, there were
Speaker 1: seven natural springs there, six of them that flowed out
Speaker 1: of hillsides and then on artesian. They formed together into
Speaker 1: a big creek that went down into the used to
Speaker 1: be the river. It was a lake at that time.
Speaker 1: That damned it up. But according to the wageboard, it
Speaker 1: was a water sprite, So that's the best explanation I've heard.
Speaker 1: But whatever it was, it was big and scary. It
Speaker 1: wasn't some little gossamer wing the tinker bell type. It's
Speaker 1: supposedly one of the fake creatures, one of the faith folk.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't some little fairy flitting around. It was
Speaker 1: big and mean and and one of me out of there.
Speaker 2: There's things from the shadow realm that you know, come
Speaker 2: around to see. I guess, being a witch or shaman.
Speaker 2: Though I'd have a different approach to it if I
Speaker 2: heard it running at me, coming at me, and then
Speaker 2: got close to me, like hey brother, and then they
Speaker 2: have a different reaction to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When I was eight, my reaction, Yeah, I was making
Speaker 1: so much noise. Was about a quarter mile from the house.
Speaker 1: My mom heard me come. I went through the woods
Speaker 1: and stepped out on the back porch to see what
Speaker 1: was going on, and I went past her, went the
Speaker 1: house and hit under the furniture. I mean, that's how bad.
Speaker 1: It showed me up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, I've I've. I used to
Speaker 2: have night terrors as a child and I would wake
Speaker 2: up and I would see dark spirits surrounding me. When
Speaker 2: I say dark, I don't mean they were evil. I
Speaker 2: just mean they were you know, shadows, and I would
Speaker 2: I would not Then I wouldn't remember anything, and the
Speaker 2: next day my mother and father would have to tell
Speaker 2: me what happened, and they'd say, you just came in
Speaker 2: here screaming help me, Jesus help me, Jesus help me, Mama,
Speaker 2: help me, Daddy, and you know that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: And we would never had any really explanation to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I used to have to sleep paralysis when I
Speaker 1: was a kid, and I had it summon into adulthood.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I remember that around three years old, I think,
Speaker 1: because about the earliest time I can remember, just like
Speaker 1: something holding me down and I couldn't move. Yeah, even
Speaker 1: as a child, the Lord's prayer and would break it,
Speaker 1: but sometimes I had to say it two or three times,
Speaker 1: so I don't know. It's some scary stuff.
Speaker 2: Well you know what's actually happening in those times. It
Speaker 2: sounds like if you're not being choked or harm. A
Speaker 2: lot of times, what's happening is that a spirit is
Speaker 2: trying to make contact with you, and they're trying so hard.
Speaker 2: Do you remember the movie Ghosts when he had to
Speaker 2: learn how to touch the He had to learn how
Speaker 2: to knock the can off the table or the counter
Speaker 2: or something. So they're trying so hard, and they don't
Speaker 2: know that they have to direct their energy when they
Speaker 2: first died, they don't realize that they have to direct
Speaker 2: their energy a certain way to communicate with you. And
Speaker 2: then if you're not open, you may or may not
Speaker 2: respond to that. You get what I'm saying. So it's
Speaker 2: almost like something's pressing down on you because it's trying
Speaker 2: so hard to communicate with you. And that's how it
Speaker 2: expresses in this world, and that happens to a lot
Speaker 2: of people. So I just want to make that clear too.
Speaker 2: It's one of the subject that sorry, I'm opening the
Speaker 2: door and bringing.
Speaker 1: The chair outside, old noisy door.
Speaker 2: But uh, I just want to express that to people
Speaker 2: a lot of times, when they think they're experiencing sleep paralysis,
Speaker 2: it's a spirit. It could be your grandmother, it could
Speaker 2: be your grandfather, it could be anybody. That loves you
Speaker 2: could be somebody in the dream world, you know that's alive.
Speaker 2: It just came in and it really feels like they
Speaker 2: need to get in touch with you.
Speaker 1: Pardon yeah, I have no doubt there. And my grandmother,
Speaker 1: she was still very much alive until I was thirteen.
Speaker 1: But that side of the family, my mom's family, they
Speaker 1: had a big family, ten kids, my mom and nine brothers.
Speaker 1: And my granny was like an Appalachi. They call her
Speaker 1: a granny witch. She called herself a gypsy witch. I
Speaker 1: don't know where she got the gypsy cart.
Speaker 2: I'm an Appalachian witch myself now, yeah with miss.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: She was born in Kate's Cove. So but she could
Speaker 1: tell fortunes, read coffee, ground tea leaves, feel the bumps
Speaker 1: on your head, animal entrails, all kinds of stuff. And
Speaker 1: they came out of the Spiritualism movement from around the
Speaker 1: turn of the last century. And then one of the boys,
Speaker 1: my uncle Irving, he was the seventh son, He was
Speaker 1: the seventh child those ten. He became a Baptist preacher
Speaker 1: and got him out of all that she put. When
Speaker 1: she died in nineteen seventy six, she wouldn't do any
Speaker 1: of that stuff anymore. But they when my mom was
Speaker 1: a little girl back in the thirties. She was born
Speaker 1: in twenty seven, but they regularly had seances and table tappings,
Speaker 1: table tippings, weageboards, all that stuff. And you know, you
Speaker 1: grow up in you don't know any different. And Granny
Speaker 1: I was her favorite grandkid. And there was a lot
Speaker 1: of them. Imagine having ten kids and a lot of those.
Speaker 1: My mom's brothers are married more than once, so there
Speaker 1: was a mess of kids. But I was the only
Speaker 1: born down south. You probably know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: I was born with a veil over my face. Now
Speaker 1: all that is, it's the in call you were born.
Speaker 1: I was born with the ambiotic sack over my face.
Speaker 1: They had to cut it away. But in her superstitious
Speaker 1: Appalachian ways, that marked me as a special child. So
Speaker 1: she kind of took me under a wing, and she's
Speaker 1: to scare of the devil out of me. She looked
Speaker 1: like a hands on grat, a witch. But I wish
Speaker 1: I had another thirteen years to spend with her.
Speaker 2: Well, you'll see her in time. Anyway, She's probably probably
Speaker 2: one of your spirit guys. Anyway, Oh she is.
Speaker 1: I call it my granny senses at a time I'm
Speaker 1: in some place that I shouldn't be, or something weird's
Speaker 1: about to happen. I feel kind of like that little
Speaker 1: tingle on the back of my neck, and I can
Speaker 1: hear her voice, not audibly, but get my head saying,
Speaker 1: you know, you need to get to the house. You
Speaker 1: need to leave that alone. You need to go the
Speaker 1: other way and get out of here.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And in fact, when I lived in Oregon, I lived
Speaker 1: in a little town called sight Hell, and I was
Speaker 1: out one night. I smoked at the time, cigarettes, and
Speaker 1: I'd gone out about two o'clock in the morning to
Speaker 1: have a cigarette, and I saw what I thought was
Speaker 1: somebody at first, just walking down the side of the road.
Speaker 1: This is little rural town, kind of like Mayberry. Have
Speaker 1: you ever seen those Disney Halloween Town movies. That's those
Speaker 1: Those are filmed in Saint Helen's, Oregon. But I saw
Speaker 1: what this was in warm weather. But I thought I
Speaker 1: saw what looked like a guy in a fur coat
Speaker 1: just kind of strolling down the road. And it looked
Speaker 1: but it looked wet, like he's wearing a wet fur coat.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't raining or anything. And didn't have a neck.
Speaker 1: It was just kind of a cone shaped head and
Speaker 1: had swinging his arms and his legs, and I thought,
Speaker 1: what in the world, So I've got to go get
Speaker 1: a closer look at this, and it's like I heard
Speaker 1: my grandmother say, what you need to do is get
Speaker 1: your ass back in the house. I didn't left alone,
Speaker 1: but brother, I watched the guy guy I call him
Speaker 1: a guy, passing in front of a stop sign that
Speaker 1: was up at the end of the street. I went
Speaker 1: up there the next day and measured that it was
Speaker 1: a lot. The stop sign was a lot higher than
Speaker 1: I thought it was. He would have had to been
Speaker 1: seven and a half eight feet tall. Big Harry looked like,
Speaker 1: like I said, like he's wearing a wet per coat.
Speaker 1: I think that was a Sasquatch. I think that I
Speaker 1: had an eyewitness encounter and didn't even realize it until later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, that sounds like exactly like what
Speaker 2: it was. I mean, I I think I told you
Speaker 2: when me and my friend we first saw one, it
Speaker 2: was completely invisible, and it was in the rain, and
Speaker 2: we could see the rain washing off of the front
Speaker 2: and the back and sides of it, and it was
Speaker 2: only thirty yards from us, and it cocked its head
Speaker 2: and looked back at us, and it was I don't know.
Speaker 1: That was the first time I've seen one. I've seen
Speaker 1: the footprints. I was up in Washington State and the
Speaker 1: Gifford Pincho for it stoo up there, and there's been
Speaker 1: sightings up there. And it was in the spring of
Speaker 1: the year, things around sometime in April, and I'd gone
Speaker 1: up to try to find the snow line. I wanted
Speaker 1: to see the snow, and they're in the snow. When
Speaker 1: I found the snow line, there's just like one big
Speaker 1: bare footprint like it was walking at an angle along
Speaker 1: the side of this hill and stepped one foot in
Speaker 1: the snow and said, oh, that's cold, and then and
Speaker 1: then got back out of the snow. And then another
Speaker 1: time I was up in the Jeffson National Forest in Virginia.
Speaker 1: An Appalachian Trail runs there through Damascus, Virginia, and I
Speaker 1: was up in there, and I don't usually back then anyway.
Speaker 1: I didn't do the regular hiking trails and stuff. I
Speaker 1: liked to go off trail and kind of bushwhack through.
Speaker 1: I was out one night again about two or three
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, and I'd heard some yups and
Speaker 1: yowls and a couple of tree knocks and things, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden I felt I heard something hit
Speaker 1: the ground, and I looked and it was like a
Speaker 1: round river rock, not a very big one, and they
Speaker 1: were coming out of the woods at me. And I
Speaker 1: didn't even feel them hit me, but I hit it,
Speaker 1: or hear them hit the ground. Picked one up and
Speaker 1: it was warm, almost hot to the touch, and I thought,
Speaker 1: that's weird. Whatever this is is throwing rocks at me,
Speaker 1: But they weren't. It wasn't like lobbing them out of
Speaker 1: the woods. They were coming straight. And then they hit
Speaker 1: me and hit the ground, So I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe I ought to turn around and go the other way,
Speaker 1: and I did, and I thought about that years later.
Speaker 1: It wasn't an aggressive thing. I thought they were warning
Speaker 1: me about something. I think I was about to walk
Speaker 1: upon a big cat or a bear or something out
Speaker 1: there that I didn't want to run into. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I'd heard the tree knocks and the yews and yips
Speaker 1: and stuff, but I think there was something back there
Speaker 1: that I didn't want to run into. And it wasn't
Speaker 1: a sabe. It was some kind of a predator animal
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't want to mess with at a dark
Speaker 1: because I was hiking without a head lamp or anything.
Speaker 1: Is a full month.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't. They don't want to see you get hurt,
Speaker 2: you know, as long as you're not hurting anything. They
Speaker 2: you know, they sense good humans. You know, they sent
Speaker 2: your heart so I can tell you're a good person
Speaker 2: to myself, just hear your voice if I'm able to
Speaker 2: be a judge anybody. But you know, they feel that,
Speaker 2: they know that, they're aware of that, and you know
Speaker 2: they're not. They're not as mean as people think. They're
Speaker 2: only mean when they feel like they're threatened, you know,
Speaker 2: or their home and their territory, their children and their
Speaker 2: family are threatened. And I wouldn't call that mean. I'd
Speaker 2: call that protective. I would just like to protect our families.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got another one of your audio clips. I
Speaker 1: would like to play at our sasquatch sabe or dog man,
Speaker 1: wolf person howling unknown house from the Appalachian Mountains. I'd
Speaker 1: like for the folks to hear this one and again
Speaker 1: this links in.
Speaker 2: This takes about twenty so once you started it takes
Speaker 2: about twenty seconds. I'm talking to another one up on
Speaker 2: a mountain, and then I hear this sound about five
Speaker 2: hundred yards from here, maybe a quarter mile, and there's
Speaker 2: nothing up there, no houses, nothing. Okay, whatever this is,
Speaker 2: I might have discovered a new wolf species. If nothing,
Speaker 2: it's not a red wolf. By the way, there were
Speaker 2: red wolves here. This is not a red wolf. Red
Speaker 2: wolf's son more like coyote is. You can look them up.
Speaker 2: There's a link to a black wolf on this video,
Speaker 2: and that's what it sounds the most like, is like
Speaker 2: a black wolf. But I don't think it's a black wolf.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna go ahead.
Speaker 2: Awesome. I love your people, man. You make my heart big.
Speaker 1: Like joy and the expectations you say for these things.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that.
Speaker 8: I love it when I get to hear your children too.
Speaker 8: That's so awesome. That's so beautiful. I love those sounds
Speaker 8: the children around my home.
Speaker 2: I think this is an owl, well, I've heard. I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's true, but I think it's true.
Speaker 2: That that's aw right.
Speaker 3: You know that one.
Speaker 2: Now, if you put your headphones on, that thing is
Speaker 2: about five hundred pounds. That's one of your people. This
Speaker 2: just keeps going for a minute and a half.
Speaker 7: Yeah, are they okay, they're okay.
Speaker 9: That was mine speak to me. That's amazing. Holy shit,
Speaker 9: I've never heard anything like that.
Speaker 4: See, that's not the usual low oh ship dude.
Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 2: That was him responding to me, saying a while, I'm
Speaker 2: just listening with my ear. That's all this year is
Speaker 2: a little water. I can't hear with this here, water
Speaker 2: drilling when the wind's blowing.
Speaker 3: I know my sounds. I know this.
Speaker 8: I know what that is not. That's not a coyote.
Speaker 8: It's not an elk, it's not a deer. That's not
Speaker 8: an owl. Yeah, that's one of your people, unless it's
Speaker 8: one of the wolf people.
Speaker 2: Listen to this.
Speaker 3: Was that one of the wolf people? Oh maybe it was.
Speaker 2: He actually tapped back, but it wasn't as audible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know they're around.
Speaker 2: Now. That happened again four nights later, but it was
Speaker 2: a different sound and in a different place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where I've never heard anything like that. It
Speaker 1: said a caption there, What in the world is that?
Speaker 1: And I think I lost your audio again? Okay, well
Speaker 1: wait for you come back. I'm gonna play that one.
Speaker 8: Again, heart big like joy, happiness, you know, happiness. I
Speaker 8: love it when I get to hear your children too.
Speaker 8: That's so awesome, it's so beautiful. I love those sounds
Speaker 8: and children around my home.
Speaker 3: What I heard.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's true, but I think it's
Speaker 2: true that.
Speaker 3: Yes, how.
Speaker 2: I know that one right now? M hmm, that's one
Speaker 2: of your people. Have we time I hear that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Are they okay? They're okay? That's amazing.
Speaker 3: Holy shit, I've never heard anything like that. Holy shit.
Speaker 3: Damn wow, Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 2: I'm just listening in my ear.
Speaker 3: That's all.
Speaker 2: This year doesn't work. I can't hear with this here.
Speaker 3: I'm amazed by your people. Brother.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know my sounds.
Speaker 3: I know the sounds. I know what that is not.
Speaker 2: That's not a coyote.
Speaker 8: That's not an elk, it's not a deer. That's not
Speaker 8: an owl. Yeah, that's one of your people, unless it's.
Speaker 3: One of the wolf people. Was that one of the
Speaker 3: wolf people?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Maybe it was? Yeah, I know they're around.
Speaker 1: Okay, went ahead and played it again, there have or
Speaker 1: have we got you back on the line there, brother,
Speaker 1: a little foot If you're talking, I can't hear you now.
Speaker 1: Now there you are, okay, got you back again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I went ahead and played that one again. That is
Speaker 1: something else. I've spent a lot of times out in
Speaker 1: the woods. I've never heard anything like that. I just, uh,
Speaker 1: that gave me chills.
Speaker 2: Well, if you go to the one that is, uh,
Speaker 2: if you do the howling again that I sent you.
Speaker 2: That happened four nights later, Okay, and that's I've only
Speaker 2: heard howls a few times, and so that was pretty.
Speaker 1: I got that one cute up here. Let me go
Speaker 1: ahead and play that.
Speaker 2: That one starts right away howling again.
Speaker 3: Wow, anyway.
Speaker 2: Right there?
Speaker 5: Interesting get.
Speaker 3: We how.
Speaker 10: Woh yeah, okay, there's coyotes.
Speaker 8: But there's something else howling. That's like what I heard
Speaker 8: the other night, brother, That's what I was trying to
Speaker 8: tell you.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow, they gave me chills.
Speaker 8: I thought that was a car way off on the highway,
Speaker 8: a truck, a big truck or something at first, But
Speaker 8: then when the coyotes started howling, I knew. I said,
Speaker 8: wait a minute, that's one of your people, brother, or
Speaker 8: it's one of the wolf people, one or the other.
Speaker 3: But then never coyotes howling too. Wow. That was awesome.
Speaker 8: I never thought that I would.
Speaker 3: Hear that up here. Holy shit, that just.
Speaker 8: It's exhilarating. I hope they're okay. I hope they're not.
Speaker 8: I don't think they are. I don't think they're hurting.
Speaker 8: I don't think they're in pain. Yeah, that's not what
Speaker 8: I'm hearing. But I hear the coyote. I heard the
Speaker 8: coyotes too, but that was different. But I heard four
Speaker 8: I think four hows from one of your people. Just
Speaker 8: now I know your people's sounds. I studied the gorilla
Speaker 8: people and the orangutan people, and the chimpanzee.
Speaker 3: People and all their sounds, and the monkey people.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and they all have five fingers on each hand
Speaker 8: and five toes, just like you and I do. And
Speaker 8: then you know they can walk up right and they
Speaker 8: can walk on all four sometimes.
Speaker 3: Nice have been an hour and there too.
Speaker 8: I know when one creature in the forest start calling
Speaker 8: out the other one to start.
Speaker 3: Calling to That was amazing.
Speaker 8: That was awesome, Syre, Okay, I'm not hurting.
Speaker 1: That was awesome. Wow, Wow, another amazing capsu there.
Speaker 2: Can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can on that one. Those were not coyotes
Speaker 2: in there. There were no coyote sounds. I went back
Speaker 2: with my headphones and there's something else screaming with that thing.
Speaker 2: So there's the Sabe man doing the oh, and then
Speaker 2: there's something else going when you hear that man that
Speaker 2: makes your hair stand up on end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I got chills. Just listen to it, and
Speaker 1: I encourage anybody that wants to hear it a lot
Speaker 1: better than you're probably hearing it. Here, go check out
Speaker 1: YouTube channel. It's brother Little Foot on YouTube. Listen with
Speaker 1: some good headphones. I've got these studio headphones on. I
Speaker 1: gotta kind. I cranked it up for that that will
Speaker 1: make your hair stand up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna say, you thought the first one was scary,
Speaker 2: that one that one's even better. But I don't get
Speaker 2: I'm not scared. When I hear these, I'm amazed. It's
Speaker 2: like seeing the shooting star UFO. It's like, Wow, you
Speaker 2: know they're okay first, and if they're okay, then I
Speaker 2: can take pleasure. They're not okay, then I'm praying for them.
Speaker 2: You know. That's the way I feel about it.
Speaker 1: So, and I've got one more here I want to
Speaker 1: play that you sent me. This one is uh sas
Speaker 1: Squat's children along with their parents talking to you. Whoops
Speaker 1: and vocals, Let's give it. Listen to this one here.
Speaker 2: And not that I hear a lot. There's still a
Speaker 2: lot I don't hear. I'm sure that anyway. I just
Speaker 2: think it's kind of funny, ain't it.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have a hard time, thank you, brother. It's not
Speaker 2: the privilege to hear y'all. I have a hard time
Speaker 2: understanding other humans. But I can out here in part
Speaker 2: understand you all pretty well. You'll see you understand me.
Speaker 2: I can understand humans when I can hear them. But
Speaker 2: you know, so I know if they don't hear me,
Speaker 2: then other humans don't hear me and stuff. But I'm
Speaker 2: not that loud. I'm you know, Yeah, I'm I'm thoughtful.
Speaker 2: I'm aware of the other humans around and stuff. And yeah,
Speaker 2: like if I if other humans are here, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be talking here. People. I talk to you my heart,
Speaker 2: in my heart and my mind, but not out loud,
Speaker 2: not word. It's like this. I prefer to talk to
Speaker 2: you this way because it's harder to talk in my
Speaker 2: heart or in my heart or in my mind. Because
Speaker 2: when I'm out here, I'm thinking about animals and other
Speaker 2: humans and driving around and yeah, so I have to
Speaker 2: stay focused on the natural world and what's going on
Speaker 2: around here. And I'm watching for star people. There's a
Speaker 2: light down there. Yah, it's probably another car running or something.
Speaker 4: Mum hm.
Speaker 2: But uh and then I had they were awesome all
Speaker 2: the all the families were doing well and all great visits. Sounds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of right there.
Speaker 2: That's like they were the first time king it. That's
Speaker 2: when they left, like the let me make sure y'all
Speaker 2: know I saw their car lights come on. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: the way we have to do it, just like all
Speaker 2: around the home. They're not my cats, and they're they're
Speaker 2: scared of humans that they're humans. Take care of humans,
Speaker 2: feed them and give food to him and stuff like that. Anyway,
Speaker 2: in my home there are portals for spirits that come
Speaker 2: and go, and I have this human technology out. Humans
Speaker 2: are coming around wait for their plane to flow over
Speaker 2: my human family and friends. So that's how much they
Speaker 2: like them, you know. But said, somebody's here, and so
Speaker 2: I turned my car off and I started talking to him,
Speaker 2: and they started talking back to me, and that's how
Speaker 2: I made friends with him. Yeah, they're there, they've been
Speaker 2: are near my home and he's okay, like, okay, that's okay,
Speaker 2: and he knew I was sorry. Sorry means I apologized
Speaker 2: that I didn't mean to upset like that. You know,
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to make you mad, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And and I don't know how far I can go
Speaker 2: up the mountain. I'm worried about that.
Speaker 1: And more incredible captures there.
Speaker 2: Are you able to hear you were able to hear
Speaker 2: that on the on the headphones?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can hear it on the headphones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the whoops and the little tap responses, and there
Speaker 2: was like a couple of whistles and it sounds like whistles,
Speaker 2: but that's the sound their children made. Yeah, when they're around.
Speaker 2: And that's only after the family trust you that they
Speaker 2: let the children come around you. And but once they
Speaker 2: let the children around with the children just talk to
Speaker 2: you like crazy. They just love to talk to people.
Speaker 2: They love it as long as they're you know, the
Speaker 2: people are friendly and peaceful and make them feel comfortable,
Speaker 2: make the family feel comfortable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure they're just as curious about you as
Speaker 1: you are them.
Speaker 2: They are. It's it's it really is a duality if
Speaker 2: we're mirroring one another. I learned that they're learning about
Speaker 2: us as we're learning about them, you know, And that's
Speaker 2: why they sometimes come around people's homes. They want to
Speaker 2: see how we are. They don't really want to hurt anything.
Speaker 1: They want stories of peaking in the window and stuff
Speaker 1: and then scaring the daylights out of people.
Speaker 2: But I've never had that. They never did that to me.
Speaker 2: They're not I've never had that problem in particular. But
Speaker 2: I would leave my windows and stuff open, you know,
Speaker 2: so that they could just see into the house if
Speaker 2: they wanted to and see what I was doing. Is
Speaker 2: I don't really have anything at the hide and if
Speaker 2: I'm in my bedroom much closes the curtains and you know,
Speaker 2: change clothes, whatever I need to do. But you know,
Speaker 2: they're not ashamed of neckdness or anything, so it's not
Speaker 2: like I have to be worried about those things. I
Speaker 2: don't walk outside neked, but you know what I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 2: well they're not concerned about that.
Speaker 1: So fascinating stuff. And again I'll have a link in
Speaker 1: the show notes for this episode to find your YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: And you've also got a book on Amazon he's not Harry,
Speaker 1: he's our brother. I like that nod to the Holly's
Speaker 1: song from the Sixes.
Speaker 2: Yes you remembered, Yes, tell.
Speaker 1: Us a little bit about the book and how that
Speaker 1: came about what we can expect in there.
Speaker 2: Well, it just came about as all my experiences and
Speaker 2: I literally just sat down and wrote a little bit
Speaker 2: of that book every day. I didn't outline it or anything,
Speaker 2: but I got everything's organized. Before my father passed away,
Speaker 2: said one of the best books you ever read. He said,
Speaker 2: he couldn't put it down, and he's he's the one
Speaker 2: who got me to read Martin Luther King, so read
Speaker 2: his book. So that's quite an honor from my father.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just it's just a culmination of all
Speaker 2: my experiences up to that point, and experiences in Mississippi
Speaker 2: and then you know, showing up in Mississippi and they actually,
Speaker 2: before my father passed, we went to the old family
Speaker 2: cabin down in Mississippi and the swamps and Uh's in
Speaker 2: South Mississippi and we sat on the back porch and
Speaker 2: it was after I, you know, I'd already had started
Speaker 2: having my experiences and I wanted to see if they
Speaker 2: were back there. So I want to just go sit
Speaker 2: back there and talk to the woods and see what happened.
Speaker 2: And I want to take my father with me, And
Speaker 2: so we went and did it. We heard a lot
Speaker 2: of strange sounds. My father just o, well maybe just
Speaker 2: would sound. He's, you know, in his eighties. He lived
Speaker 2: out there, you know, most of his life, but a
Speaker 2: lot of his life anyway, early life, and uh, any who,
Speaker 2: we heard a sound that sounded like this, it goes,
Speaker 2: it's really loud. It sounded like a tropical bird. And
Speaker 2: that's what I was kind of thinking, maybe that's a
Speaker 2: tropical bird that's flown up here or something, you know,
Speaker 2: for the winter. I didn't know what to think. I
Speaker 2: never heard anything like that, my dad said. He said,
Speaker 2: I'd never heard anything like that, John, I don't know
Speaker 2: what that is. And I didn't have a record at
Speaker 2: the time, which is real sad because that's the only
Speaker 2: time I would have been recorded my dad with me
Speaker 2: out there, and I'm mad at myself and not having
Speaker 2: a recorder. But I came back up here and I
Speaker 2: had two different families up here make that sound back
Speaker 2: to me while I was talking to him exactly that
Speaker 2: same way. And another family did it later, and but
Speaker 2: I immediately realized after the first family did it for
Speaker 2: me that they were telling me, Hey, that was a
Speaker 2: US and we're down there. We are right back behind
Speaker 2: your family cabin. Turns out they're behind the family home,
Speaker 2: the family cabin. They're at the graveyard where my father's
Speaker 2: buried and the family's buried, and they're the grandfathers of honesty.
Speaker 2: And my father was also a very honest man, So
Speaker 2: I find that very interesting. They were also behind the
Speaker 2: home that he died in the hospital, but they were
Speaker 2: behind the home that he lived in in the passed
Speaker 2: and a little further north of Mississippi. So I find
Speaker 2: that interesting. Grandfathers of honesty, you know, and my father
Speaker 2: is always an honest man. And there they are where
Speaker 2: he was born, where he died, where he lived. You know,
Speaker 2: it's just in the cabin, the family cabin that we've
Speaker 2: we've treasured for.
Speaker 1: Out of your immediate family, are you the only one
Speaker 1: that has these experiences or is this something that shared
Speaker 1: with your family.
Speaker 2: Well, my brother's eleven years older than I am. My
Speaker 2: sister's sixteen years older, and she's a very strong Christian,
Speaker 2: but she she has she I've shared recordings with her,
Speaker 2: and she's of the opinion. She said, well, if they're
Speaker 2: real and they have children, they need to be protected.
Speaker 2: And you know, that's the way she saw it. Their
Speaker 2: families and they love one another. That's that's the way
Speaker 2: she She loves animals, you know. And then my brother,
Speaker 2: I'm forty six years old by the way, and my
Speaker 2: brother is more skeptical. But he actually we went out
Speaker 2: a couple of times and we didn't really hear any sounds.
Speaker 2: They will shy away from people that are skeptical a
Speaker 2: lot of times. I don't know why they do that,
Speaker 2: but they do. But I did take him out to
Speaker 2: the first family where I had my first encounter the
Speaker 2: next night, and they shook an entire I think it's
Speaker 2: a hickory tree. It's about three and a half feet thick.
Speaker 2: And there were two other friends out there with us,
Speaker 2: and they start and they were knocking and making sounds,
Speaker 2: and my brother couldn't hear them, and he was actually
Speaker 2: in different He was like standing at the bottom of
Speaker 2: an embankment where they are and trying to hear their sounds.
Speaker 2: And we were on the other side of the parking area,
Speaker 2: and he noticed the tree started and he was the
Speaker 2: first one to notice. He said, Hey, that tree over
Speaker 2: there is shaking, and no other trees are shaking. He said,
Speaker 2: there's no wind blowing. And then he started walking over
Speaker 2: the tree. And I said, well, maybe, I said to
Speaker 2: my brother, maybe one of them's up there in the tree,
Speaker 2: like the predator, and you just can't see him. He's
Speaker 2: shaking the tree. And my brother later told me he said,
Speaker 2: when you said that, he says the first time I
Speaker 2: actually considered that might be true. And he walked over
Speaker 2: to the tree. And then the other two friends, one
Speaker 2: of my friends is the Cherokee woman and her ex husband.
Speaker 2: They're still friends, but they walked over to the tree too,
Speaker 2: and then the tree stopped shaking. And then to our
Speaker 2: left we heard a loud, clear knock and I go Mark,
Speaker 2: that was a knock, and my brother goes, Jonathan, that
Speaker 2: was a knock, and then we started arguing. I recorded it.
Speaker 2: As soon as I can find the recording, I'm going
Speaker 2: to post it, but it's going to take a while
Speaker 2: to dig through and try to find him.
Speaker 1: Now you mentioned earlier we were talking about doctor mcabee's
Speaker 1: wife and her experience. Now while that was happening and
Speaker 1: she was send that predator type creature a couple of
Speaker 1: trees over and she was behind like a high school
Speaker 1: football field in the woods.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, at the same time that that happened, there was
Speaker 1: some sort of a UFO encounter or something that the
Speaker 1: people on the football field. So do you see a
Speaker 1: connection between the UFOs and Sasquatch.
Speaker 2: You know what's yes and no. Definitely there's some kind
Speaker 2: of connection, but it's not like I see UFOs every time.
Speaker 2: I'm not talking to the Sabe people. So there's something.
Speaker 2: I've seen a pyramid form in the sky, some people
Speaker 2: calling upright triangle. I'm calling it a pyramid because of
Speaker 2: all the pyramids on the earth and what I've heard now.
Speaker 2: And there was one man who had a near death experience.
Speaker 2: I heard his stories, doctor Michael. I don't remember his
Speaker 2: last name, but people can look up the near death
Speaker 2: experience indies and then try to find this story. Is
Speaker 2: doctor Michael, an older man with glasses, and he said
Speaker 2: that he died and went in the spirit world and
Speaker 2: he was shown that they were that the star people
Speaker 2: were building three pyramids in the sky. One was three
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty three feet high, another was six hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty six feet high, and another one was nine
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety nine feet high, and they were building
Speaker 2: in the sky and they're going to bring them back
Speaker 2: down on the earth, and when they do that, it's
Speaker 2: going to shift us into a new world or something
Speaker 2: like that. I don't really understand all that, but I
Speaker 2: do look around the earth, and what do we have
Speaker 2: all over the earth that we don't know where they
Speaker 2: came from? Pyramids, you know, and they say, well, they're
Speaker 2: made out of stone and this and that. Yeah, aliens
Speaker 2: know how to manipulate biological things into machinery, you know. Yeah, so,
Speaker 2: and that's what they're doing. That's what we're seeing in
Speaker 2: the sky. We're seeing we're seeing manipulated biology. It's not
Speaker 2: just a machine, you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, now they're seeing those creatures that look like
Speaker 1: flying jellyfish and stuffs some sort of it's not a
Speaker 1: flying saucer. It's not metallic, it's organic. It's some kind
Speaker 1: of biological entity that you can fly like these saucers.
Speaker 2: Some people have described UFOs as looking like dragons in
Speaker 2: the sky, like having head and the tail and wings
Speaker 2: and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sky dragons, My friends over to Belief whole podcast
Speaker 1: talk about those sky whales. They have reports those.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like they're biological ships. You know that
Speaker 2: these beings can travel in but there they may be
Speaker 2: life forms themselves. And if they were able to create humans,
Speaker 2: and certainly they could create all kinds and types of
Speaker 2: and there's signs that they were trying to manipulate all
Speaker 2: kinds of DNA when they were here. You know, we
Speaker 2: already know that. Now I can't prove that necessarily, but
Speaker 2: Billy Carson might be able to. I listen, I recommend
Speaker 2: people listening to Billy Carson. That man has a lot
Speaker 2: of truth in him. He doesn't talk about Sasquatch yet.
Speaker 2: Maybe I can get him to one day, but either way,
Speaker 2: he does talk a lot about the Pyramids and where
Speaker 2: they came from, the Emerald tablets, and I mean he
Speaker 2: goes into the list of Samarian kings and the whole
Speaker 2: nine yards, and it explains a lot about where I
Speaker 2: believe we came from and what maybe it's about where
Speaker 2: we came from.
Speaker 1: Well that's like the legends I've heard of the Egyptian
Speaker 1: artifacts found in the Grand Canyon, and supposedly those are
Speaker 1: under military lock and guard. You can't can't get near it,
Speaker 1: but it's been covered up. I think there's been a
Speaker 1: lot of civilizations here before we showed.
Speaker 2: Up exactly, and I feel like all of them have
Speaker 2: stepped on the Sasquatch people. All of them have taken,
Speaker 2: you know, something from them, and if nothing else, they
Speaker 2: left a bunch of humans here that did the same thing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: And speaking of lights in the sky, since you're western
Speaker 1: North Carolina, have you ever been over to Brown Mountain?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched the UFO over there for an hour
Speaker 2: and a half with eight other people I did not know.
Speaker 2: I drove over there by myself one night and I
Speaker 2: stood at the main Brown Mountain overlooked and I looked
Speaker 2: out and watched looked like a red orb looked like
Speaker 2: a cherry on the tobacko on a cigarette, you know,
Speaker 2: from a long distance, a big one, and it went,
Speaker 2: it would go up and down the ridge of the mountain,
Speaker 2: and it would stop in certain areas, and then lights
Speaker 2: that were like red and yellow, like plasma type lights
Speaker 2: would come up out of the ground constantly. People need
Speaker 2: to start learning that word plasma. Plasma, plasma, that's the
Speaker 2: four state of matter, and it's a big part of
Speaker 2: why Sabe may be able to disappear. What what was
Speaker 2: Ruce Mcavieane's wife see And they were probably seeing a
Speaker 2: plasma form of a being. You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It makes sense. Yeah, And I've been over there Brown Mountain.
Speaker 1: I used to live up in extreme northeastern Tennessee, in
Speaker 1: a little town called Mountain City, not too far from Boone,
Speaker 1: North Carolina, and I'd make that trip over to Brown
Speaker 1: Mountain there maybe a dozen times. And those lights never
Speaker 1: failed to put on a show. And it seemed like
Speaker 1: warm weather and just before or after a light or
Speaker 1: maybe during a light rain was when they're most active.
Speaker 1: But I have no explanation for him. People trying to say, oh,
Speaker 1: it's car lights or years ago locomotive light, so they
Speaker 1: saw those lights in there before trains or cars. It
Speaker 1: was ever in there.
Speaker 2: There's a place over here like that. I don't want
Speaker 2: to say what it is. It's popular with the locals,
Speaker 2: but if anybody ever goes over to Cherokee, they can
Speaker 2: ask the Cherokee people about it. But yeah, we have
Speaker 2: another we have our own little Brown Mountain. But the
Speaker 2: lights that I'm seeing now I've been seeing some lights
Speaker 2: that look like satellites, but then they start to trail
Speaker 2: off trajectory. And then one night they made a pyramid
Speaker 2: in the sky, and it was not like lights were
Speaker 2: floating and just happened to be floating in a triangle.
Speaker 2: They It's like these lights were coming up, the little
Speaker 2: red lights were coming up over the mountain and disappearing,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, the pyramid appeared right
Speaker 2: over top of where they were disappearing into. One light
Speaker 2: appeared independently, then another. At each point the pyramid, three
Speaker 2: lights appeared independently of the others, and then they all
Speaker 2: moved along the outline of that pyramid, and then it disappeared,
Speaker 2: and it was very stationary. I've never seen anything like
Speaker 2: that before since in my life, and I'll never forget it.
Speaker 2: And before that happened, years before that happened, we had
Speaker 2: a ghost box up there and I went. It was
Speaker 2: sitting on my car and we were just letting it
Speaker 2: talk and say.
Speaker 3: It was just.
Speaker 2: Spitting out words. And I went to hand my friend
Speaker 2: to a cigarette and I didn't say anything, and I
Speaker 2: just handed in a cigarette and it goes tobacco like
Speaker 2: that and we were like, holy shit, Okay, it's it's
Speaker 2: something actually seeing us talking to it. And then it
Speaker 2: started going to Egypt, Mississippi, Egypt, Mississippi, Egypt, Mississippi, Egypt, Mississippi.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't long after that that I had my
Speaker 2: first visit from Oh I just saw a shooting star. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm outside this little meetor shower going on, but uh, anyway, sorry,
Speaker 2: that kind of took my mind away from things. Yeah,
Speaker 2: these lights anybody can see. They're out in the west,
Speaker 2: and I've seen them in both the North Carolina and
Speaker 2: in Mississippi, and that's what blew my mind. And now
Speaker 2: I haven't seen the pyramid form again, but I think
Speaker 2: it's the same lights. And what I have a friend
Speaker 2: who's a spirit medium as well as me, and sometimes
Speaker 2: I'll call him and ask him questions just for confirmation.
Speaker 2: I don't pay him, he's just a friend, and he
Speaker 2: said that he feels like those are star people pretending
Speaker 2: to be satellites to hide themselves. And what's crazy is
Speaker 2: the other night I saw those lights up on the
Speaker 2: mountain and there was a lot of There was a
Speaker 2: fire somewhere on another mountain and smoke was billowing down
Speaker 2: across the mountain looking towards Tennessee from North Carolina, and
Speaker 2: those lights were still appearing in the smoke. And I
Speaker 2: don't understand how satellites would appear in the smoke like that.
Speaker 2: They would have to be below the clouds or below
Speaker 2: the smoke to appear like that. That doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2: And they're very bright red and they get brighter, and
Speaker 2: I watched about ten or twelve of them I was watching.
Speaker 2: I always watch them with save people. Sometimes my human
Speaker 2: friends are with me too, and so I have witnesses.
Speaker 2: But anyway, the other night, I was up there and
Speaker 2: I saw those lights, and then one of them came
Speaker 2: up and I looked right at it, and I didn't
Speaker 2: say it out loud, but my heart I go, who
Speaker 2: are you? What are you? Like that? And I don't
Speaker 2: know what happened, but the light disappeared. I literally felt
Speaker 2: like something looked back at me and said, oh shit,
Speaker 2: a human sauce. And that light disappeared and we didn't
Speaker 2: see any more lights. Stayed out there for another forty
Speaker 2: five minutes. We didn't see any more lights, Like, what's
Speaker 2: going on here? And I haven't seen any lights since, actually,
Speaker 2: not those lights, but there's a lot of things going
Speaker 2: in the sky. People need to get outside at night more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then used to do that a lot when
Speaker 1: I was a kid. There was a big UFO flap
Speaker 1: in seventy three. I was ten years old. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: saw something like every night that summer, we go to
Speaker 1: my brother's house. He lived up in the highest hill
Speaker 1: in the area. We go up there and sit out
Speaker 1: in our lawn chair as a whole family. We saw
Speaker 1: all kinds of weird stuff in the sky.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's and now we're having more because we're
Speaker 2: about to go through that pull shifts. Now we're having
Speaker 2: a lot more UFO activity. And I don't have to
Speaker 2: tell you that. You can hear that. I mean, go
Speaker 2: on YouTube see that that's just happening. I don't try
Speaker 2: to videotape on right now because I'm you know, around
Speaker 2: Sawbey people and I'm not using cameras. I do have
Speaker 2: permission from them at one place to go where I'll
Speaker 2: be sitting in the middle of the parking area. I'll
Speaker 2: be far away from them on either side of the
Speaker 2: parking area, and I can look out over the mountain
Speaker 2: try to get it, but I don't know that I
Speaker 2: have the technology camera that catch that catch those lights.
Speaker 2: But I'll try or get a friend up there that
Speaker 2: has with me and then we'll post it one night when.
Speaker 1: I came out and and with all this technology that's
Speaker 1: available to us now, I think we're going to get
Speaker 1: more irrefutable proof and things. You know that there's money,
Speaker 1: more stuff out there than we've ever thought about. And
Speaker 1: it's all connected, like we were talking about earlier, and
Speaker 1: this is connected, which is connected to the other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to name drop a little bit. Camping
Speaker 2: with Sasquatch on YouTube, Friends with Monsters on YouTube, and
Speaker 2: Long Island Bigfoot on YouTube. Those are just some other
Speaker 2: researchers I keep up with. But camping with Sasquatch, Martin
Speaker 2: has actually come and stayed with me two times and
Speaker 2: we watched one hundred and thirty lights one night. Martin
Speaker 2: never seen a UFO before in his life. Even he said,
Speaker 2: those aren't satellites because they appear in one part of
Speaker 2: the sky and they disappear in another part of the sky,
Speaker 2: and you can watch satellites go right through them or
Speaker 2: right over.
Speaker 1: Midwest Night Watchers is his channel, and they study these things.
Speaker 1: They've got optional that show the paths of the satellites
Speaker 1: and things in the local air traffic and things. He's like,
Speaker 1: there's things in the sky that doesn't show up. It's
Speaker 1: not a satellite, it's not an aircraft. We don't know
Speaker 1: what it.
Speaker 2: Is, but I know I've seen. Well, let me tell
Speaker 2: you what I saw. When Martin was with me, and
Speaker 2: he can back me up on this camping Sasquatch. We
Speaker 2: were up there one night and we were watching those lights,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden we saw an airplane come
Speaker 2: from what would probably be Atlanta or South Carolina, coming
Speaker 2: from the south, and it flew all the way to
Speaker 2: where those lights were in the sky. And that airplane
Speaker 2: turned around and went back to where it came from.
Speaker 2: I mean, it flew all the way to the western
Speaker 2: sky from you know, from the where were we looking.
Speaker 2: We were looking west, so it was coming east, it
Speaker 2: was coming it was going northeast. And then it went
Speaker 2: to where those lights were and it turned around. I've
Speaker 2: never seen an airplane turn around the sky and go
Speaker 2: right back to where it came from. And this was
Speaker 2: a full a full not a cargo plane. What you
Speaker 2: call it a passenger plane. I guess it looked like one. Anyway,
Speaker 2: one night I was up there at that place this
Speaker 2: is not Brown Mountain, I saw a red orb and
Speaker 2: I had a witness with me from Tykey, other woman,
Speaker 2: and it just zigzagged over the top of the mountain
Speaker 2: and I hollered at her and she said, she said,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I heard a knock down there and she
Speaker 2: didn't see the light. And then I turned around for
Speaker 2: a second and she hollered at me and said, Jonathan,
Speaker 2: I turned back around. The light was going back over
Speaker 2: the mountain. What's really crazy is the next night I
Speaker 2: was up there by myself and a big cargo military
Speaker 2: plane came flying through there at that valley, eye level
Speaker 2: with me on the mountain and just flew right through
Speaker 2: that same area. And I've never seen that happen before since,
Speaker 2: so that was very odd. It's like they knew something
Speaker 2: was going on up there. Somebody must have reported it
Speaker 2: or something, and so they were flying through to check
Speaker 2: it out. I'm like, that's crazy. And I have seen
Speaker 2: him flying delta formation, which may just be practicing. And
Speaker 2: I have seen him flying delta formation up there, which
Speaker 2: is usually a you know, a battle formation or defensive formation.
Speaker 2: But uh, and they do maneuvers around here. We live
Speaker 2: in the mountain, so that's that's what goes on around here.
Speaker 2: But I've seen and then one night I was up
Speaker 2: at a right down the road from there, and I'm
Speaker 2: watching for the lights. I don't know that I was
Speaker 2: seeing many lights, but behind looked behind me on the
Speaker 2: mountain i'd just driven over, and there was it looked
Speaker 2: like two airplanes were starting to fly and they were
Speaker 2: pretty low. I could see the whole airplane and they
Speaker 2: were starting to fly over the mountain. One of them
Speaker 2: was not an airplane. One of them had nothing but
Speaker 2: plasma all over the bottom of the ship. It looked
Speaker 2: like an airplane that was flying on plasma.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: The second one looked like an airplane, but it only
Speaker 2: had one light on it. I don't remember exactly what
Speaker 2: it looked like, but because the first one shot me,
Speaker 2: and that's not the first time i'd seen that ship.
Speaker 2: But what's crazy is it was a very clear night.
Speaker 2: As they started to fly over the mountain, both of
Speaker 2: them disappeared into thin air. I could see the stars
Speaker 2: behind them over the mountain. Then when they got past
Speaker 2: the top of the mountain, they reappeared on the other side,
Speaker 2: and I just, you know, your mind just goes, what
Speaker 2: the fuck? Sorry I pardoned my language. But that's what
Speaker 2: you don't know. I don't understand that, you know, I can't.
Speaker 2: I don't think that was human. I don't think any
Speaker 2: bit of it was human. I think they're trying to
Speaker 2: look like human a lot of times, so that you
Speaker 2: know he is, so.
Speaker 1: That hiding in plain sight as they say, Well, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: brother Littlefoot, we're almost out of time here tonight. Those
Speaker 1: two hours has just flown by.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Yeah, I have to have you back some
Speaker 2: time to continue.
Speaker 1: This has been fascinating. I love these kind of stories,
Speaker 1: especially from Appalachian for areas that I know and have been.
Speaker 1: But again, tell people where they can find you and
Speaker 1: what you got coming.
Speaker 2: Up, brother Littlefoot channel. There's gosh, there's twenty recordings on there,
Speaker 2: and there's several long recordings. Is just like what I
Speaker 2: like with the children. Those were edited for time, so
Speaker 2: that was just you know, let people hear a few
Speaker 2: responses and things. But I've got full conversations on there
Speaker 2: that they can find. With the Sabby people are constantly
Speaker 2: responding to me. It does help the have hit fhls
Speaker 2: to hear everything. I don't think I have any trees
Speaker 2: pushed down on recording on YouTube, but I do have
Speaker 2: like five trees pushed down on recording, but that's pretty
Speaker 2: common now. So we're kind of looking for things that
Speaker 2: are different, you know what I'm saying, And like the
Speaker 2: children sounds, that's beautiful. Every time I hear those, my
Speaker 2: heart just jumps with joy ie. There's more audio on
Speaker 2: there with children in them and families, and there's there's
Speaker 2: everything's titled, and there's a lot of if people listen,
Speaker 2: there's and that if you go down in the descriptions
Speaker 2: of the videos, I time stamp everything, So time stamp
Speaker 2: where they where I asked a question or said something
Speaker 2: they responded, and so you can go right to it
Speaker 2: every time and then uh, let's see.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: Also, there's a lot of EVPs in there. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of spirit voices and things talking back to me
Speaker 2: that I didn't hear when I was there, and I
Speaker 2: just tom stamped them. Though I go back to time stamp,
Speaker 2: there's one at one place, I'm joking with one of
Speaker 2: the SABE people because I was trying to get in
Speaker 2: to let me see him. It was one of the
Speaker 2: first times I was talking to him, I don't do
Speaker 2: that anymore. But I said, all right, Darryl, I'll call
Speaker 2: him Darryl. I'm gonna lay down here on the ground
Speaker 2: and just pretend like I'm dying til you walk up here.
Speaker 2: And uh, there's a voice that came in right behind
Speaker 2: me and it goes like that. I'm like, wow, there's
Speaker 2: another one that has drumming on it. You really have
Speaker 2: to have the headphones. But all the all the cherokey
Speaker 2: people say that the drumming happens up there, and I
Speaker 2: called it on recording and it's just a it fades out,
Speaker 2: and I can tell you there was nobody playing drums
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 1: Fascinating stuff. Again. I'll put links in the show notes
Speaker 1: and link to your book on Amazon. He ain't Hair
Speaker 1: or he's not Harry. He's our brother, my brother little Foot.
Speaker 1: Thanks again for joining us.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Steve, have you back soon. I'm gonna go ahead and
Speaker 1: get us on out of here. Okay, everybody, thanks for listening.
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