WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:01.879 You'll be away five seventeen. 2 00:00:01.960 --> 00:00:04.879 Do you want to report a UFO hanging in? 3 00:00:05.360 --> 00:00:08.720 We don't want to report every thirty one. Do you 4 00:00:08.800 --> 00:00:09.480 wish to report a. 5 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:13.080 UFO over hey, we want to one of those data 6 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:15.439 areas thirty one. 7 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:17.160 Do you wish to find a report of any kind 8 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:17.320 of it? 9 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:22.640 I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds, time areas 10 00:00:22.640 --> 00:00:24.960 thirty one me neither there. 11 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:30.480 See if it was anybody above us to pass us, 12 00:00:30.519 --> 00:00:32.960 Like thirty seconds ago, we were sending one top of 13 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:37.039 golf negative, Okay, OFFI the UFO. 14 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:40.920 Yeah, it's murder ten nine o'clock. Yes, I'll just passed over, 15 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:44.399 I go. I don't know what it was, but it's 16 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:47.280 from at least to three thousand feet above us. See, 17 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:53.479 I passed out over the top of us ninety one one. 18 00:00:53.600 --> 00:00:55.200 You just called both to be be four re. 19 00:00:56.600 --> 00:01:03.159 The're after staying the airplanes? He is more to God. 20 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:06.079 Calm on an unidentified. 21 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:09.519 Object every liberty four call or calm on an unidentified 22 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:14.239 flying object. 23 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:19.120 A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share 24 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:24.400 their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had 25 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:26.519 an encounter, I would like to be on the show. 26 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:47.920 You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com. 27 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:51.400 Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. How are you 28 00:01:51.519 --> 00:01:54.519 all doing. I'm Nick Hunter and this is the UFO 29 00:01:54.680 --> 00:01:59.359 Chronicles podcast. Tonight's guest is Sarah from London in the UK, 30 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:05.319 sharing a lifetime of experiences that bridge UFO sightings, spirit encounters, 31 00:02:05.319 --> 00:02:09.240 and psychic communication. One such siting occurred in the nineteen 32 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:12.840 nineties during a Nutting Hill carnival, an event that was 33 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:16.639 confirmed by a nearby police officer. But her story goes deeper. 34 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:21.120 From childhood WIGI board sessions to poltergeists activity and work 35 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:24.159 in as a medium, Sarah's life has been shaped by 36 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:28.599 the unseen. Sarah is up next, but first, if you 37 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:30.800 enjoyed a show and you would like to help support 38 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:33.560 the podcast on Patreon, you can do this for as 39 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:36.039 little as one dollar a month, head on over to 40 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:40.599 patreon dot com forward slash UFO Chronicles podcast. You can 41 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:43.199 also find a link in the description of this episode. 42 00:02:43.319 --> 00:03:02.479 Any help is very much appreciated. Now on with the show. Hello, Sarah, 43 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:04.199 Welcome to the podcast. 44 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:06.879 Thank you so much. I'm so happy to be here. 45 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:09.879 It is great to have you with us tonight and 46 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:11.919 you're calling from London in the UK. 47 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:13.280 I am. 48 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:17.639 I am, now Sarah, you have some experiences to share 49 00:03:17.680 --> 00:03:20.800 with us. Would you like to start at the beginning, please, ma'am? 50 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:24.800 I will, yes, Well, I think I should start with 51 00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:30.560 notting Hill Carnival. Notting Hill. It must have been in 52 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:35.960 the nineties, mid nineties. Now I've tried to pinpoint it, 53 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:38.599 but I can't so, but I'm sure it was the 54 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:43.599 mid nineties. And we'd come just entered the carnival, and 55 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:47.039 we were walking through the streets and there were crowds, 56 00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:49.199 obviously in some areas, and then it would just sort 57 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:52.520 of get a bit thinner on the ground as we 58 00:03:52.639 --> 00:03:58.800 walk through. And it's a great atmosphere and party carnival style, 59 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:03.479 and some think made me look up, and I looked up. 60 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:06.199 I was with a friend and I think, what's that? 61 00:04:06.280 --> 00:04:10.360 What's that? And it was it was quite high up 62 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:14.039 in the sky, and it was sort of in front, 63 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:18.480 but sort of a distance away so that I could 64 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:21.519 see what looked like a side of it. And the 65 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:27.000 side was a triangle, so I got the impression that 66 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:30.800 it was one side of a pyramid. But it was 67 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:35.480 a silver, sort of pewter color, and it was a 68 00:04:35.519 --> 00:04:38.800 summer stain, and it was bright, so it was sort 69 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:42.959 of reflecting the light. But it just stayed there. It 70 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:46.959 didn't move. It was nothing like anything else you would 71 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:50.120 see in the sky. You know, anyone with a brain 72 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:51.879 usually would go, well, could that be? 73 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:52.000 This? 74 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:52.600 Could that be? 75 00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:52.720 That? 76 00:04:52.759 --> 00:04:56.040 Could No, it couldn't have been anything that you would 77 00:04:56.120 --> 00:05:00.279 normally see in the sky. So it was unexplained, aimed, 78 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:05.319 and certainly unidentified. So I showed my friends, like, what 79 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:08.519 is that? So he was staring at it and we 80 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:11.959 were looking going, oh, do you know just obviously have 81 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:15.759 no idea? Well, I say, had no idea, but it 82 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:19.759 comes to mind, you know, this is a UFO. Now 83 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:25.399 I think I hadn't really dismissed UFOs or I hadn't 84 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:29.040 really got a firm position at that time because I 85 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:31.680 was in my early twenties, so I was open. I 86 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:35.920 was always open to everything, and I you know, now 87 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:39.360 you go through life and you think what Earth would 88 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:43.240 make anyone think that we were the only the vast 89 00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:47.879 universe or infinite They don't know, do they? And if 90 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:50.360 it is infinite, then why on Earth would we be 91 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:54.480 the only planet with them with life? But it struck 92 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:58.360 me as well, that's a UFO if you're following the definition. 93 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:01.959 So he said to me, oh, tell it, because of 94 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:05.439 course it's the carnival. There's lots of officers and lots 95 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:08.639 of crowds. No one else appeared to be looking up 96 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:12.120 and judging the distance of it. It must have been 97 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:15.920 fairly big, but because it was a distance away, it 98 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:19.759 was obviously small in the sky. So he said, go 99 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:22.000 and tell that policeman. I said, I'm not telling the 100 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:24.800 policeman because I think that's another thing, isn't it. You know, 101 00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:28.399 there's so many people who will judge what you believe 102 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:30.920 and what you don't believe, So I'm not telling the policeman. 103 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:33.360 So he's all right, I'll tell the policeman, which surprised 104 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:36.600 me because he was quite a shy person. He would 105 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:39.040 always put me forward to go and tell this, Go 106 00:06:39.120 --> 00:06:40.879 and say this, go and say that. So he went 107 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:44.519 over and pointed to it and showed the policeman, and 108 00:06:44.560 --> 00:06:48.319 the policeman looked up, and he was looking and then 109 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:51.759 sort of looking confused and then looking back up. And 110 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:55.160 then as we were walking away, we were watching him, 111 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:57.839 and he went over to one of his colleagues and 112 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:03.199 pointed up and the colleague looked up and almost dismissed 113 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:08.000 it and you know, carried on with his policing. So yeah, 114 00:07:08.040 --> 00:07:10.160 that was It was interesting, but it was a nice 115 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:13.879 feeling to feel that, yes, I've seen a UFO. And 116 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:16.120 you know, if you I always felt if you got 117 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:18.800 into any kind of debate with anybody about whether there 118 00:07:18.839 --> 00:07:23.800 were UFOs, well, you know, UFOs are unidentified flying or 119 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:28.439 in the wider sense objects, So that was certainly unidentified, 120 00:07:28.519 --> 00:07:31.759 and two policemen didn't identify it. So not that I 121 00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:35.480 would ever have thought to report it, although I guess 122 00:07:35.560 --> 00:07:38.120 there could be benefits. There could have been somebody else 123 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:42.279 that had seen it and reported it. I don't know. 124 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:45.480 So that was, as I say, in my early twenties, 125 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:48.839 and that was. Yeah. I was quite pleased with that, 126 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:52.120 but it wasn't a big part of my life or 127 00:07:52.519 --> 00:07:57.160 things that I thought about. Wasn't particularly a big UFO person. 128 00:07:57.800 --> 00:08:02.759 But later in my life, not so long ago, maybe 129 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:07.240 four or five years ago, just after COVID in the lockdown, 130 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:10.319 I went to see my sister and she said to 131 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:13.879 me that she had she'd seen a documentary about the 132 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:16.600 tic TACs and she was telling me about that, and 133 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:19.639 it was like, you know, years gone by, and I'm like, oh, yeah, 134 00:08:19.720 --> 00:08:23.040 we're definitely We're definitely not alone. And I think they're 135 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:26.480 probably all coming and there's all these people that report it. 136 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:30.839 So my views very much had changed or developed, should 137 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:35.200 I say. I started listening to your podcast and absolutely 138 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:38.399 loved it and listening to all the people's testimonies, and 139 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:42.080 it makes me think about people's testimonies and how we 140 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:46.200 don't you know, there's been a culture of encouraging people 141 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:50.519 not to believe other people, which I think is quite wrong, 142 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:53.240 you know, make fun of them, and I mean that 143 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:58.279 obviously there is some more negative experiences that people talk about, 144 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:01.840 but the positive ones just filled me with hope, especially 145 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:05.960 with the country and the world in the statement, and 146 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:08.919 I sort of thought, oh, you know, maybe they'll save us, 147 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:12.840 maybe they'll help us. It really ignited sort of a 148 00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:15.360 wish in me, like how lovely would that be? How 149 00:09:15.399 --> 00:09:19.120 magical would that be? To see another And I started 150 00:09:19.159 --> 00:09:22.679 watching the skies more and the planets were aligning. I 151 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:25.600 quite remember it's the beginning of the year, planets are 152 00:09:25.639 --> 00:09:28.840 starting to align, and we watched the run up to that, 153 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:32.480 and so I was looking up to the skies more. 154 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:36.039 I've got young children, so I've tried to I do 155 00:09:36.279 --> 00:09:39.720 go to bed fairly early, so yeah, but then i'd 156 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:41.639 be lying in bed and I've got a skylight and 157 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:44.360 I'm looking at the sky like thinking, come say alone 158 00:09:44.399 --> 00:09:48.600 to me. Anyway, and then one night before bed, I 159 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:51.519 actually said, please please come and show yourself to me, 160 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:55.480 because that'd just be lovely. I just absolutely love that. Anyway, 161 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:59.879 a few days went past, and as I was waking, 162 00:10:00.840 --> 00:10:07.480 I had this very strong picture vision. And I've had 163 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:11.879 them before, sort of more on the supernatural side, so 164 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:15.159 I knew what it was and the quality of it. 165 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:21.879 And I had this vision of a looked like a drone. 166 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:25.159 It looked like a drone. The propellers were going round. 167 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:27.279 It was like a dark color like I was up 168 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:31.720 close to this picture of a drone with the propeller 169 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:35.759 bits going round really fast, and it sounded like a flickering, 170 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:39.279 and it was just as I was waking, and I 171 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:42.080 just knew instinctively that that was what they were doing. 172 00:10:42.080 --> 00:10:44.600 They were going, well, yeah, we can't actually fly past 173 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:48.960 the window. We're not the red arrows, but here's communication. Yeah. 174 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:52.720 So I was absolutely delighted with that, and yeah, felt 175 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:55.559 very much that that was a telepathic communication, which I 176 00:10:55.600 --> 00:10:58.559 have had before. As I say so, I did recognize 177 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:01.879 it communication and a vision. Yeah, I was absolutely delighted, 178 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:05.360 and yes, thank you, thank you very much. Although I'm 179 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:09.480 still watching this guy and hoping to see something a 180 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:14.080 little bit more. I suppose physical that sort of sums 181 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:20.639 up my UFO encounters, but I've had, I suppose quite 182 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:25.639 a few paranormal experiences. I grew up from the age 183 00:11:25.639 --> 00:11:27.519 of one. I went to live with my grandmother and 184 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:31.919 she brought me up with Christian faith, but she was 185 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:35.879 a very spiritual person. It was a quite a big 186 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:40.399 part of my life. And she talked about experiencing different things, 187 00:11:40.440 --> 00:11:43.440 and she said that one morning she sat up in 188 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:47.000 bed and there was an orange cat, a ginger cat 189 00:11:47.320 --> 00:11:50.399 on her bed, and she thought it was because we 190 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:52.759 had a cat, an orange cat, so she thought it 191 00:11:53.519 --> 00:11:56.120 was Honey the cat. And then she realized, no, no, 192 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:59.279 it's not Honey the cat. And she went to stroke 193 00:11:59.399 --> 00:12:02.080 it in her hair and sunk through and then it 194 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:05.919 slowly faded from the bottom up to the head and 195 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:08.639 then disappeared, and so she realized, oh, it's a ghost cat. 196 00:12:08.960 --> 00:12:10.759 So I think that was the first story she gave 197 00:12:10.840 --> 00:12:15.159 me which I probably age appropriate, which I loved. But 198 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:18.039 she also told me she went to bed one night 199 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:21.759 and had woke up with her grandmother at the bottom 200 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:25.679 of the bed, and her mother had been ill, and 201 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:29.440 her grandmother said to her, I'm going to take mum now, 202 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:33.000 she's coming with me. So she very much, you know, 203 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:36.559 realized that it had been a visitation to say she 204 00:12:36.879 --> 00:12:40.000 mum's going Mum's going to die, which, of course she 205 00:12:40.759 --> 00:12:43.480 did end up dying. I think it was either the 206 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:47.639 following day or you know, very soon. It was clear 207 00:12:47.720 --> 00:12:50.639 that that was the message she'd got and that's what 208 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:54.200 was happening. So that was another of her stories. I 209 00:12:54.279 --> 00:12:57.360 suppose what led me on to sort of listening to 210 00:12:57.399 --> 00:13:02.720 different podcasts about the paranormal, about UFOs. Well, she told 211 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:05.960 me about a near death experience she'd had and she'd 212 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:09.120 said that, well, I died and went to heavens what 213 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:13.799 happened there? So she said that she was having an 214 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:18.639 operation and she had died on the operating table. What 215 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:23.399 happened was what she said. She was traveling through a 216 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:26.159 tunnel and at the bottom, at the end of the tunnel, 217 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:30.279 there was a bright light and she moved through the 218 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:32.360 tunnel and at the end of the tunnel there was 219 00:13:32.399 --> 00:13:36.039 a beautiful garden and she was just about to step 220 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:40.200 into it and she was pulled back. And so when 221 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:44.480 she came to the surgeon said to her, well, you know, 222 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:48.720 we nearly lost you. You were nearly gone. So she 223 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:53.440 sort of she was sure that she had visited her heaven. 224 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:57.080 So that I found fascinating. And then as I started 225 00:13:57.080 --> 00:14:01.120 to hear in recent times stories about that was something 226 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:05.799 that I really enjoyed listening to other people's accounts, and 227 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:11.440 it helped with my further spiritual awakening. But that was 228 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:14.320 kind of my grounding and her history. But I was 229 00:14:14.360 --> 00:14:19.399 always looking for paranorn or experiences myself. I was thinking, well, 230 00:14:19.639 --> 00:14:21.840 when am I going to see one? And I thought, right, well, 231 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:24.000 I just have to wait. Of course, as a child, 232 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:29.000 you don't wait, you seek it out. So one early evening, 233 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:33.559 I must have been about thirteen, and myself and a 234 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:37.320 couple of friends decided to do a weedi board. I 235 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:41.120 never had been told anything negative about weeda boards, and 236 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:45.000 I just understood them to be a tool for contacting 237 00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:48.840 people who had passed, and so we did it in 238 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:53.080 my friend's bedroom and we got a very weak movement 239 00:14:53.279 --> 00:14:59.200 of the glass, but the questions I don't quite remember 240 00:14:59.240 --> 00:15:03.000 exactly what was said, but I know that I felt 241 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:07.159 that I had managed to contact my grandfather, who died 242 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:11.159 when I was ten, And so I went home and 243 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:14.240 I said to my grandmother, I spoke to Granddad tonight, 244 00:15:14.519 --> 00:15:18.159 and she said, oh, we'll read you bored. So I said, yeah. 245 00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:21.960 I was surprised that she sort of guessed, because you know, 246 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:28.039 it didn't automatically flow, and so she said all right, okay, 247 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:31.000 And that was that. But we did start to do 248 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:34.519 it more and more often, and my other friend had 249 00:15:34.600 --> 00:15:38.360 contacted her aunt, Minnie, and you know, we started to 250 00:15:38.639 --> 00:15:41.320 find quite a lot of comfort in it. It was 251 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:46.080 exciting and it was something not many other people were doing. 252 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:49.159 So we did it a few times. Now. We spoke 253 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:51.519 to a friend who was a little older than us 254 00:15:51.559 --> 00:15:54.600 and she had a boyfriend and she said, oh, yes, 255 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:57.240 my boyfriend does that and he speaks to a guy 256 00:15:57.320 --> 00:16:03.200 called Warren and he's really horrible, and so it was like, oh, right, okay. 257 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:07.120 And then very soon after we started to do this, 258 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:09.600 we still go down to a youth club which was 259 00:16:09.960 --> 00:16:13.440 an old Victorian school that I think they've not sadly 260 00:16:13.519 --> 00:16:17.159 knocked down now and built on it. But we used 261 00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:19.639 to go down there to the youth club and so 262 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:22.320 we would get a plastic cup and do it with 263 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:27.519 you know, very crude, sort of basic Oigi boards, and 264 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:30.240 then we got to the point where like who is 265 00:16:30.279 --> 00:16:35.080 this and it started to spell out wa r. It's like, oh, 266 00:16:35.159 --> 00:16:37.679 my goodness, and of course it was Warren. So we 267 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:42.120 didn't have any real negative experiences with Warren. But he 268 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:44.639 did say he did say he didn't like me, So 269 00:16:44.679 --> 00:16:45.960 I said, would you like me to go? And he 270 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:49.679 said no, because your voice is loud. So we stayed anyway, 271 00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:53.720 So we all one time sort of attracted attention from 272 00:16:53.799 --> 00:16:57.159 the other kids and we went ended up going into 273 00:16:57.159 --> 00:17:01.320 the toilet with a coffee mug. Now these were big toilets, 274 00:17:01.639 --> 00:17:08.240 changing rooms, hooks, showers, you know, old school showers and toilets. 275 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:11.200 So we were all in there in a big crowd, 276 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:15.839 and as you can imagine, young children, young thirteen year 277 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:19.920 olds and above, are all sort of you know, I'm 278 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:21.920 not doing it, I'm not doing it. So some were watching, 279 00:17:21.960 --> 00:17:24.200 some are doing it. But there are a few of us, 280 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:28.160 including the friend that had told us about Warren, and 281 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:32.119 we were asking different questions and it was strong. It 282 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:35.720 was a very strong movement of the cup, and it 283 00:17:35.799 --> 00:17:39.160 was quick, and it got stronger and quicker moving around 284 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:43.079 answering the questions. I mean, kids do silly things. One 285 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:45.720 of them said, when am I going to die? And 286 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:50.119 it started to swing backwards and forwards, backwards and forwards, 287 00:17:50.119 --> 00:17:53.680 backwards and forwards, and it became unnerving, and there were 288 00:17:53.720 --> 00:17:59.519 obviously children screaming and oh. And then I was like, look, 289 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:01.559 we've got a break. This this isn't good, So take 290 00:18:01.599 --> 00:18:03.839 fingers off, taking things off. Take everyone, take your fingers off. 291 00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:06.279 And as we took our fingers off and it was 292 00:18:06.359 --> 00:18:10.839 moving to the right, we took her fingers off, and 293 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:15.000 from that moment it swung back on its own across 294 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:18.960 the floor in the opposite direction and rolled across the floor. 295 00:18:19.480 --> 00:18:22.559 So everybody screamed and ran out of the toilets, and 296 00:18:22.599 --> 00:18:25.440 that was the end of the incident. But that was, 297 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:29.359 you know, the nearest I really was. I suppose nearest, 298 00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:32.200 it's quite near. But getting to sort of my own 299 00:18:32.680 --> 00:18:38.400 paranormal experiences and till I suppose when I was twenty four, 300 00:18:39.200 --> 00:18:43.640 my grandmother died and she was everything to me, and 301 00:18:43.680 --> 00:18:47.839 I was utterly devastated, and I was told. When I 302 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:50.559 was out of the house, my mother and my uncle 303 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:52.519 picked me up and they told me in the car, 304 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:57.160 and I screamed, a terrible day for anybody who's been 305 00:18:57.160 --> 00:18:59.599 through it. And we went back to her house and 306 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:03.839 I ran straight up stairs to the room that she 307 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:09.039 was found in, spent a few moments there, and I 308 00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:14.480 heard her voice as clear as anything, with the tone 309 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:19.759 and everything. Call up Sarah. I made my name is Sarah, 310 00:19:19.799 --> 00:19:22.200 but I made everyone call me Sarah when I went 311 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:25.559 to school because there was other Sarah's there, so I 312 00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:27.680 didn't want to be different, and then I changed it 313 00:19:27.799 --> 00:19:32.920 back a later date to be more different. Ironically, it's 314 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:36.200 funny what you go through as a child on your identity. 315 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:40.400 So I heard her voice, and at the time I 316 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:44.200 think I just put it down to being in shark 317 00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:49.799 and grief in disbelief, but now looking back, it's clearly 318 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:53.319 she was calling me so a little bit a few 319 00:19:53.359 --> 00:19:57.559 minutes later, I had a very very strong smell of 320 00:19:57.680 --> 00:20:00.720 roast beef. Now you know that was a very very 321 00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:06.839 prominent part of childhood in the UK. Sunday Sunday lunch 322 00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:10.480 or Sunday dinner, whichever time you had it, roast beef, 323 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:13.839 and that was what I remember, that she would cook 324 00:20:13.880 --> 00:20:17.079 the most on the Sunday. And it doesn't even smell 325 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:19.640 the same these days. Back then, it had this sort 326 00:20:19.640 --> 00:20:22.079 of very, very sort of intense smell. Maybe it was 327 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:25.559 just how I smelled it as a child, because obviously 328 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:30.519 it tastes change and develop, but it was this strong 329 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:34.119 smell of roast beef. And again I just sort of, oh, 330 00:20:34.440 --> 00:20:37.359 you know, my brain is really playing up, but you know, 331 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:39.880 they're very clear in my mind, and I can still 332 00:20:39.920 --> 00:20:44.720 smell that smell now. So that was kind of the 333 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:52.319 start of what became the ability to communicate mediumship or 334 00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:57.519 psychic both psychic medium, clever audio and sentiment, clairvoyant and 335 00:20:57.559 --> 00:21:01.880 all of it. And it started to develop from there, 336 00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:07.359 and then I was seeking out clairvoyance so that I 337 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:10.720 could at least get messages from her. And you know, 338 00:21:10.759 --> 00:21:13.680 I missed her terribly, but I had this sense that 339 00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:18.200 she was with me, and very strangely, just not long 340 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:21.759 after she died, I didn't really think about it, but 341 00:21:21.799 --> 00:21:24.839 then I felt her leave me, and it was such 342 00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:28.920 a strange sort of feeling that I hadn't noticed her 343 00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:32.440 being with me, but I certainly felt her leave me. 344 00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:36.640 It's like she was saying, right, you're all right, You're okay, 345 00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:39.759 I'm going to go now, and I felt her leave, 346 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:45.480 but the entire time, and now I feel her presence, 347 00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:48.599 and I felt her. She was devastated when she lost 348 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:51.119 my granddad. I was ten, and that was fourteen years 349 00:21:51.160 --> 00:21:54.160 before she died, and she never recovered from it. So 350 00:21:54.279 --> 00:21:58.279 I found solace in the fact that they were now together. 351 00:21:58.680 --> 00:22:02.160 But I had this also, very very strong feeling that 352 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:04.680 they were together and they were both looking out for 353 00:22:04.759 --> 00:22:08.079 me and looking after me. So it was although she 354 00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:12.599 was no longer physically present, I felt a very very 355 00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:19.640 strong spiritual presence from her. That's how unfolded different. Before 356 00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:26.000 I realized I was clvy. After the bathroom, I went 357 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:29.799 to a wedding, a friend's wedding, and I stood at 358 00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:32.119 the back of the church, and they were saying about 359 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:36.440 you knowing God's House and all the religious words and 360 00:22:37.079 --> 00:22:43.240 sentiment of a wedding service, and in my head I 361 00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:47.759 said to myself, well, this is all rubbish anyway, And 362 00:22:47.920 --> 00:22:53.559 her voice came through as clear as anything in my mind, 363 00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:58.519 not externally, but in my mind no, it's not. I thought, 364 00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:02.759 my goodness, that was my that was her. So that 365 00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:07.079 was the first time I heard somebody who'd passed properly 366 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:12.359 heard it within my own consciousness. From then that is 367 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:16.720 when I developed clevoyance, and I started giving people messages 368 00:23:16.839 --> 00:23:21.759 and just being super aware of how I knew things 369 00:23:21.880 --> 00:23:23.680 and how I could see things and how I could 370 00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:27.839 read people. And part of that was well, very very 371 00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:30.920 comforting to anyone who's lost anybody, but it was very 372 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:36.640 comforting to me because I felt that well, it made 373 00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:39.759 me feel that I was no longer scared to die. 374 00:23:39.960 --> 00:23:42.519 I had no fear of death. So yeah, it was 375 00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:46.359 a lovely thing to have. And also giving messages. Passing 376 00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:49.279 messages on was also lovely because you've got to feel 377 00:23:49.319 --> 00:23:53.480 that absolute bliss they pass on. Sometimes they can pass 378 00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:57.279 on this feeling of absolute love and bliss, so that's 379 00:23:57.319 --> 00:24:01.599 also lovely to feel. From that message at the wedding, 380 00:24:01.799 --> 00:24:05.759 I went on to have quite a few different things. 381 00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:09.400 I had a visitation from her in my dream. I 382 00:24:09.480 --> 00:24:11.599 dreams a dream and you kind of forget them, but 383 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:15.920 this wasn't. This was clear, clear, like I'd met her 384 00:24:16.759 --> 00:24:22.319 and I was recalling a memory she gave me comforting words. Look, 385 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:25.240 I know I'm not here physically, but at home, she 386 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:27.599 came through the door. I dreamt she walked through the door, 387 00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:30.279 and I said, where have you been? Where the hell 388 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:33.119 have you been? And she said, look, you know, I 389 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:35.599 know I'm not physically here, but you'll be okay. You'll 390 00:24:35.599 --> 00:24:38.400 be okay. Think about the things that are going to 391 00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:41.359 get you through. And I was like, oh, okay, okay, 392 00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:44.720 And so I took that as again she was still 393 00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:49.480 very much there. And later I had a cat who 394 00:24:49.799 --> 00:24:53.720 I took from hers and took them to my home. 395 00:24:54.200 --> 00:24:58.319 We had two cats, but they were seventeen I think 396 00:24:58.359 --> 00:25:00.920 at the time they was seventeen. I had to have 397 00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:07.799 my cat put down. And yeah, that was another extremely 398 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:14.160 upsetting time. And she came to me in a dream 399 00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:19.799 again and said, look, whenever you feel, whenever you're ready, 400 00:25:20.759 --> 00:25:23.599 call him and he'll come to you. And I was like, 401 00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:28.000