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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of our a lot of our Texters

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<v Speaker 2>you know, tell me how much I suck and they

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<v Speaker 2>my dumb ass off the radio. So you never know

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<v Speaker 2>what you're gonna get. But this this text message that

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<v Speaker 2>six five three zero seven nineties the number. But he sick,

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<v Speaker 2>says Nick. Do you believe that Mark Pope will end

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<v Speaker 2>up making the trip to Freedom Hall to support his

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<v Speaker 2>law familiar team. I know Pat Kelsey can't be there

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<v Speaker 2>for obvious reasons, but if Pope is there, we need to.

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<v Speaker 3>Make sure we boo his bald ass. Is he is

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<v Speaker 3>he bald?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's bald, I mean bald or just short, like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not bald, right, I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>You have you have a I don't even know what

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<v Speaker 3>you call it, but you have had I guess yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean like he's got here though I'm looking at it. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got something. It's very little, like every picture I'm

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<v Speaker 2>seeing of him, like you can see a hairline. So like,

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<v Speaker 2>honestly the picture that I'm looking here at this article

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<v Speaker 2>that says Mark pope'son talk to take over at Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 2>that's honestly the same. I mean I never thought about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually I have the same haircut as Mark Pope. Now

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm looking at I guess you're I mean, like

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's not really a haircut or a hair style.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just we we've decided to have very very little

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<v Speaker 2>hair and I can I'll give him this. Hope he

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<v Speaker 2>loses every game he coaches. I hope he gets his

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<v Speaker 2>ass boot out of Freedom Hall if he shows up

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<v Speaker 2>but he and I are brothers in this way. We

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<v Speaker 2>have that haircut because we want it. Don't let people

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<v Speaker 2>think that it's because we got a bad hairline or

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, we're balding.

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<v Speaker 3>We just we like to keep it short. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>have a good hairline though, it's not it's receding. For sure,

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<v Speaker 3>it could be worse.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a lot older than me, but like it's not. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look I got news for you, brother. If

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<v Speaker 2>you think that's a bad hairline, I mean, I hope

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<v Speaker 2>some terrible well because I mean, like that's it's receding.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'll put it this way.

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<v Speaker 2>He has a receding hairline, But I wouldn't say that

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<v Speaker 2>he has a terrible hairline to where like he's like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people if they got a bad hairline,

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<v Speaker 2>they're covering up with hair or they're going bald, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. Like, I don't think he has

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<v Speaker 2>anything to be you know, it is age. How old

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<v Speaker 2>is Mark Pope? Fifty forty eight? Like that he's fifty one,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I feel like that's a pretty good hairline for

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<v Speaker 2>fifty one. Yeah, because he's you know, he's he's fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen years older.

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<v Speaker 4>Than me.

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<v Speaker 2>He does absolutely, So I don't know if he'll be there,

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<v Speaker 2>but it wouldn't shock me if he is there, and

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, you should be. Yeah, I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>much worry about the like the team not being there.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody else had mentioned that earlier on the text line

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<v Speaker 2>that it kind of feels like there'll be some mojo

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<v Speaker 2>missing from this run that the vill is on because

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<v Speaker 2>the team's going to be in the Bahamas.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't what if cal appeared.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think that would happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh God, that'd be wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because you're right, there's every single one of them

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<v Speaker 2>are his players that are the former UK guys, the

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<v Speaker 2>others that in fact, the only guy that plays for

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<v Speaker 2>them that's not a UK guys is Kareem Cancer, who

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<v Speaker 2>is in his Cancer's brother, which I guess is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's there's there's literally a connection there. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if he'll be there, but it wouldn't shock

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<v Speaker 2>me if he is, and uh, you know, heck, I look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest with you man, like I know Brom's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be there unless there's something going on that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm unaware of. Maybe not because there's camp starting. But

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<v Speaker 2>either way, like, Brohm's been that every game, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>pretty sure Brom has been at every TVT game that

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville's had in both seasons. And it isn't just because

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<v Speaker 2>he knows it's a good look and he wants to

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<v Speaker 2>show support. My man is all in on these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Like when these guys were playing for U of L,

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Brom was, I mean, let me look it up

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<v Speaker 2>here because I know he went back to I know

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<v Speaker 2>he went back to Western. But yeah, so when Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>was in the midst of that twenty twelve, twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen run, Jeff Brom had just been hired by

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<v Speaker 2>Bobby at WKU. He didn't become the head coach till

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<v Speaker 2>till twenty fourteen, So you know, and this is not

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<v Speaker 2>a surprise. This is probably a pretty obvious observation for

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<v Speaker 2>anybody when you consider Jeff Brohm's story being one of

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<v Speaker 2>the first, being a member of the first family of

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville football, just a Louisville man to his core, and

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who you know, came to Louisville when it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't the cool thing to do to play for Howard Stellenberger.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, if he was coaching produced still, he

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be here at the TBT, but he'd probably be

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<v Speaker 2>watching it cheering those guys on because he's I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is corny and it's over the top, but you

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<v Speaker 2>could have the most money to pay a college football

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<v Speaker 2>coach more than anybody out there, but you can't pay

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<v Speaker 2>what Jeff Brown brings to the table as far as

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<v Speaker 2>him being clearly and literally one of us. Now, none

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<v Speaker 2>of that matters if he is terrible as a coach,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know what, he just won ten games, so

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<v Speaker 2>he's not. But anyways, you know, I wouldn't be shocked

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<v Speaker 2>if if like, like here's here's who I can see

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<v Speaker 2>making an appearance because he likes to be seen, the

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<v Speaker 2>big dog, Vince Marrow. You know, Vince Marrow is showing

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<v Speaker 2>up trying to you know, get a camera on him

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<v Speaker 2>like he And by the way, I've met Vince Marrow

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<v Speaker 2>once through Matt and you know, he seems like a

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely like a nice guy like and I see why

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<v Speaker 2>he's a good recruiter. So you know, I wish I

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't met him because I'd like to, you know, even

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<v Speaker 2>if I had met him, I wouldn't assume.

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<v Speaker 3>That he's like a bad guy, that he's a jerk,

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<v Speaker 3>or he's.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, anything other than just assistant coach that you

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<v Speaker 2>know is on the.

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<v Speaker 3>Other side of the rivalry.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh but this, this screams big dog showing up and

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<v Speaker 2>everybody losing their mind, like on social media.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't be shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, stoops, I can't really see him being there,

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<v Speaker 2>but like I can see Vince Merrill being there. So

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<v Speaker 2>as far as uh as far as U of L's team,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna be the Bahama, so they can't be there.

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey can't be there, so you know that's that's unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, look, there'll be enough people there to where

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be a rowdy atmosphere, and I do

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<v Speaker 2>believe that they'll be uh more Louisville fans than Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>But we shall see. You never know, this is this

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<v Speaker 2>is a different event. You know, this is different. And

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<v Speaker 2>let's be real, even whenever it's a real game, Blue

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<v Speaker 2>always gets in everywhere. And thankfully we won't have to

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<v Speaker 2>worry because they're not They're not. I don't think they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna sell it out, but maybe they will, but you'd

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<v Speaker 2>have to worry about like Blue getting in because Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>fans sold them tickets, which has always been a sensitive

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<v Speaker 2>subject because you know, I never want to knock anybody

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<v Speaker 2>for doing whatever they do it. I mean, do whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you want with your tickets. You bought them, you have them,

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<v Speaker 2>you have the right to sell them. I mean it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's money, right, but it always bothers Louisville fans to

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<v Speaker 2>know that, Hey, I'm seeing Blue in these seats at

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<v Speaker 2>the UM Center, and I know whose seats those are.

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<v Speaker 2>I know which corporation has those tickets. So anyways, it's

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<v Speaker 2>Coffee and Company, five o'clock hour here on a Friday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>getting you set for the weekend. Maybe the weekend's already

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<v Speaker 2>started for you. If that's the case, then props to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be there before too long, and then I'm out

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<v Speaker 2>of here for a week. So again next week, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got Scott Fitzgerald as well as Tony and Day filling in,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I'll be back. And it is a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a bummer because I always try to take

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<v Speaker 2>my vacation whenever there's not stuff going on, and we

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<v Speaker 2>have maybe like there cannot be a bigger basketball week

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<v Speaker 2>that it's taking place in the month of July in

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<v Speaker 2>my radio career than what's happening next week. Two games

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<v Speaker 2>in the Bahamas with a brand new team. Pat Kelsey's guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how many fans are going to the Bahamas,

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<v Speaker 2>but obviously we're gonna be able to watch it on

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube and that's awesome, and you know, I won't be

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<v Speaker 2>here to talk about it, and of course the game

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<v Speaker 2>on Monday night between La Familia and the vill So

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<v Speaker 2>it's a bummer for me. But you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna let it ruin my vacation. It's not I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have a good time on vacation. And maybe I'll

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<v Speaker 2>check in with Scott on Monday or Tuesday to give

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<v Speaker 2>some thoughts on what happens or what's expected to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably be best to join him Tuesday to react to

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<v Speaker 2>whatever happens. But then again, I kind of feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it's one of those things because of what this event is.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not a whole lot of postgame react like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>once you lose, it's kind of, hey, that was fun,

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see you next year. Like I don't think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if Louisville, if I was here in the villa, is

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<v Speaker 2>to lose Monday. I don't think phone lines are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be full Tuesday with people questioning is rece gains

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<v Speaker 2>the right coach for the future of the vill and

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<v Speaker 2>the TPT likes. It's just different, man.

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<v Speaker 5>The thing that would really trigger a big reaction be

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<v Speaker 5>if there was just a moment where maybe there was

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<v Speaker 5>like a fight or something that broke out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And look, I do have the ability to

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<v Speaker 2>use the power of social media to share reactions. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know if in look, I know a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are already dreading next week as you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna miss out on on the Nick Coffee experience.

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<v Speaker 2>And I say that clearly being sarcastic. So again, you

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<v Speaker 2>may you may end up being able to fill that fix,

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<v Speaker 2>uh scratch that edge if you will, by you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my social media stuff. I mean, I probably will end

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<v Speaker 2>up doing some kind of a video reacting to the

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<v Speaker 2>the Games and the Bahamas at some point if I can.

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be impressive and I'll be encouraged. But if they

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<v Speaker 2>both of them out by fifty, it's still gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>tough to know exactly what that means. I'd say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>think given that they've had practices the available and they

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<v Speaker 2>which is important because it's a brand new team.

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<v Speaker 3>So what I hope to see is somewhat of an identity.

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<v Speaker 2>been able to see them in practice. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's also something about kind of seeing in a real

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<v Speaker 2>of guys. But I hope to see the identity that

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<v Speaker 2>I that I think we're getting with a Pat Kelsey

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<v Speaker 2>as as the head coach. A team that is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>play fast, They're gonna they're gonna space it out. We're

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<v Speaker 2>talking sometimes having five out, Yes you heard that right,

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<v Speaker 2>five guys out. You know, play really fast, have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of possessions, but also you know, have some energy

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<v Speaker 2>on defense, you know. I he talked about Alabama in

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<v Speaker 2>defense is gonna suck. Alabama was awful defensively last year,

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<v Speaker 2>but they also end up making a Foual four. But

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<v Speaker 2>in years before that, like they've had like one really

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<v Speaker 2>bad year defensively, but NATO it's's teams defensively at Alabama

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<v Speaker 2>in some years have been near the best in the country. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we had no identity, no style, no calling card,

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<v Speaker 2>like it was open gym essentially in these last two years.

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<v Speaker 3>So the bar is going to be low.

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<v Speaker 2>But man, I you know, to see this brand new

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, initiate, and doing it against that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of competition isn't going to mean a lot. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's asking too much to see Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>dudes from Bahamas, this team from Canada, and I now

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<v Speaker 2>can tell you that I know what they want to do,

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<v Speaker 2>who they want to be, and also I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>want to I'm excited to see every one of these

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<v Speaker 2>you go to the portal and you're going to get

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<v Speaker 2>guys that have had good careers, you know, any of

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<v Speaker 2>these dudes could ball out and look like, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 2>guy's going to probably have to start because he looks phenomenal,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't want to act like they got the

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<v Speaker 2>dream team here. But again, because of how the roster

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<v Speaker 2>like every one of these dudes outside of two I

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<v Speaker 2>think are entering this entering the Louisville program with Pat

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey having accomplished quite a bit and having you know,

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<v Speaker 2>significant roles where they were now again, maybe it doesn't translate,

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<v Speaker 2>but like Big Frank who transferred in from Georgia I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>not Georgia, Yeah, from Georgia by way of Syracuse. And

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<v Speaker 2>also Connie Rus who's a freshman. Everybody else man they've had,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not roles to where they were the man

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<v Speaker 2>on their team. But you know, Noah Waterman started every

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<v Speaker 2>game for BYU, and he averaged ten and five in

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<v Speaker 2>the toughest conference in the country, in the Big Twelve. So, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, wouldn't shock me if he ends up being

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<v Speaker 2>a great year. But the one guy that I've always

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<v Speaker 2>been really bullish on that I just I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to say people are disrespecting him or they're forgetting him

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<v Speaker 2>or acting like, you know, he's not any good. But

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't hear a lot about him. And that

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<v Speaker 2>is cater trei Ora. He's the transfer from Long Beach State.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this guy is I mean, and his stat

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<v Speaker 2>sheet is is just makes no sense. Like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know who you'd compare him to. He's I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he's he's something special. I mean, you look at his

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<v Speaker 2>his numbers. I'm trying to pull up what his stat

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<v Speaker 2>line was because I mean, it didn't even make sense

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<v Speaker 2>to have the kind of stat line that he had.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet so last year at San Diego State, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>he had two triple doubles. But he's a six '

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<v Speaker 2>five big man kind like he to me is the

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<v Speaker 2>positionless player because he can handle the ball, he cannot

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<v Speaker 2>shoot it, doesn't shoot the three well, doesn't shoot it often,

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<v Speaker 2>and teams know that so they don't guard him out there.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what he does. He's got such a

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<v Speaker 2>He's such a good passer that you know he'll he'll

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<v Speaker 2>he's not just going to be shy out there. He'll

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<v Speaker 2>he'll get in the lane and make a play and

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<v Speaker 2>drop it off to somebody. I mean, he's that really

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<v Speaker 2>good vision. But he averaged twelve points, eight rebounds, four

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<v Speaker 2>and a half assists in one block I'm sorry, one

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<v Speaker 2>point five blocks per game last year. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 2>just he stuffs the stat sheet, shot fifty one percent

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<v Speaker 2>from the field. Overall, does a little bit of everything,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's got length and athleticism to where I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody asked me the other day, like, who do you

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<v Speaker 2>think is gonna have the most dunks on the team.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he'll be a guy that maybe doesn't start

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<v Speaker 2>but still plays a lot of minutes and there'll be games.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, just given his unique skill set and

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that seemingly can do a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Be shocked if if he's a guy that you look back.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end of next year and feel like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>without him, we don't win that game. All right, real quick,

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<v Speaker 2>before we get to a break, we are going to

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<v Speaker 2>effort our man.

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<v Speaker 3>I say our man. I mean he's a doctor, and

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<v Speaker 3>I shouldn't just say he's like one of our buddies.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he is. We love him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's doctor Eric Miclroy. But you know, I got to

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<v Speaker 2>put some respect on his name. He's an MD. But

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to try to get him on the line

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<v Speaker 2>coming up here in the next ten minutes or so.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe we're going to be able to make that happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to him about the Olympics, and I'm just curious

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<v Speaker 2>from the sports medicine side, the physical therapy side of

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<v Speaker 2>the of the Olympics, as far as what these guys

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<v Speaker 2>go through with training. I mean, there's certain sports to

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<v Speaker 2>where the training regiment is probably not only intense, but

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<v Speaker 2>like something you would never expect an athlete to do.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, there's a lot of sports in the Olympics

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<v Speaker 2>that you would probably did know existed. But real quick, what

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to get to before I run out of time.

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<v Speaker 2>When it comes to the ACC's current position, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think there's a scenario where you just do this and

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's happy and the ACC is no longer worried about

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<v Speaker 2>its future and the big dogs are not, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>worried about being lapped multiple times when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>annual revenue for media rites like I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>that scenario exists, but maybe this is that.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe this is it.

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<v Speaker 2>So see all Brown, to give him a lot of credit,

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<v Speaker 2>he put this together at the Courier Journal, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is this is something you could realistically do

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<v Speaker 2>and it would make a big impact. I'll just read

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<v Speaker 2>directly from his column here, says he wrote that Phillips

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<v Speaker 2>needs Phillips needs to make a move that's so obvious

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<v Speaker 2>he's already helped implement.

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<v Speaker 3>So move back up a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, says Phillips needs to make a move that's so

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<v Speaker 2>obvious he's already helped implement it on a smaller scale.

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<v Speaker 2>To save the league, Phillips must go all in and

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<v Speaker 2>revamp the revenue share structure. No more equal pay for

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<v Speaker 2>just being a member. It's time schools earn their share

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<v Speaker 2>based on production. It's the best way the league can

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<v Speaker 2>solidify its membership. In the same way, signing the grant

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<v Speaker 2>of rights continues to keep it together. The ACC is

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<v Speaker 2>already embraced, albeit reluctantly, awarding a performance based bonus to

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<v Speaker 2>schools and how they fare in the top two revenue

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<v Speaker 2>generating sports, football and men's basketball. Phillips said that between

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<v Speaker 2>twenty to twenty five million in additional revenue can be

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<v Speaker 2>earned by schools based on their success in those two sports.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, let's be real. The team that would be

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<v Speaker 2>not willing to do that, right, they would fight you

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<v Speaker 2>and say, oh no, I don't think so we agreed

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<v Speaker 2>to this, you know, Boston College, SMU CAL and Stanford.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we agreed.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, those school aren't getting any any

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<v Speaker 2>of the They're not getting an equal share for for

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<v Speaker 2>quite some time. But you know, I keep mentioning Boston College.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to pick on them, but they're the

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<v Speaker 2>obvious one. Georgia Tech throw them in there too.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Pittsburgh, I mean, they've not done much of anything for

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<v Speaker 2>the major sports in a long time. I guess they

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<v Speaker 2>did have that random COVID year. I mean, heck, throw

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<v Speaker 2>Syracuse in there. They've stunke in basketball and they've always

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stunk in football. So with I mean, wake Forest,

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<v Speaker 2>throw them in there. So when it comes and I look,

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<v Speaker 2>I know elephant in the room, Loisvell has not. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Molvi did play in the a SEC championship game last year.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty big deal. And also in basketball, yeah, they've

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<v Speaker 2>not been good in a while, and you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>would be entitled to no new revenue. But here's the thing,

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<v Speaker 2>they still when it comes to what's valued, they still

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<v Speaker 2>bring a lot of eyeballs. I mean they didn't during

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<v Speaker 2>the Kenny Pyne air. But even when they weren't winning

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<v Speaker 2>the ACC, Louisville basketball was still one of the bigger

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<v Speaker 2>products in the conference when it comes to men's hoops

418
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<v Speaker 2>because it's a program that will generate a ton of

419
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<v Speaker 2>viewership and that kind of stuff matters, and you you know,

420
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<v Speaker 2>and wouldn't be a shocker if Louisville basketball becomes good again.

421
00:19:16.880 --> 00:19:19.240
<v Speaker 2>The league is not as good as it once was,

422
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<v Speaker 2>and you know, Pat kelsey Evan success here would not

423
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<v Speaker 2>be a shock to many people. So if those schools

424
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<v Speaker 2>like Boston College, Wake Forest, Pittsburgh, Georgia Tech, like if

425
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<v Speaker 2>they wanted to say, oh no, you can't do that,

426
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<v Speaker 2>we agree to it. I mean tell them, well, hey,

427
00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:38.319
<v Speaker 2>then we're probably gonna have you know, well, what do

428
00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:40.559
<v Speaker 2>you want? You want to lose this lawsuit and let

429
00:19:40.599 --> 00:19:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Florida State and Clemson walk and then we have to

430
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<v Speaker 2>reset and we're going to get even less money. Like

431
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<v Speaker 2>you know, they don't have anywhere to go, they have

432
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<v Speaker 2>no leverage, they know they're not worthy of the money

433
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<v Speaker 2>that they get from the ACC. So I think this

434
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<v Speaker 2>is actually and let's be honest with you when it

435
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<v Speaker 2>comes to the hey.

436
00:19:58.680 --> 00:20:02.880
<v Speaker 3>Look, you get what you're worth, You get what you earn.

437
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<v Speaker 2>That's now the new world of college athletics when it

438
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<v Speaker 2>comes to nil, right, Like that's what we're telling these athletes.

439
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<v Speaker 2>Why can't we tell these schools the same thing, Like

440
00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:16.079
<v Speaker 2>don't be jealous. I mean, hey, if if your teammates

441
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<v Speaker 2>getting your teammates getting you know, a ten thousand dollars

442
00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:21.319
<v Speaker 2>a month in IL deal and you got a deal

443
00:20:21.319 --> 00:20:24.799
<v Speaker 2>that's you know, worth a hundred bucks, like that's that's

444
00:20:24.960 --> 00:20:27.359
<v Speaker 2>that's what you're worth by definition, that's what somebody is

445
00:20:27.400 --> 00:20:31.000
<v Speaker 2>willing to pay you. So, you know, I think if

446
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<v Speaker 2>you really fatten the pockets and look as much as

447
00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:35.079
<v Speaker 2>they've been crying about it and you don't want it,

448
00:20:35.119 --> 00:20:37.279
<v Speaker 2>is given what they want. Florida State and Clemson are

449
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<v Speaker 2>right that they do have way more value than anybody

450
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<v Speaker 2>in the league when it comes to brand and honestly success.

451
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<v Speaker 2>They've won national championships in the last decade or so.

452
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<v Speaker 2>So I doubt it happens because I don't think Phillips

453
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<v Speaker 2>is a kind of guy that would ever do that.

454
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<v Speaker 2>But I think that is actually a realistic scenario that

455
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<v Speaker 2>could sort of change how people view the future of

456
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<v Speaker 2>this league. And louisvill wouldn't be entitled to the same

457
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<v Speaker 2>amount that Florida State, Clemson and maybe you know, North Carolina.

458
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't know how would break down.

459
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<v Speaker 2>But let's be real, even during the bad years of Saderfield,

460
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<v Speaker 2>Louisville was still the third most watched college football program

461
00:21:13.720 --> 00:21:16.440
<v Speaker 2>in the league, and that matters. All right, quick break,

462
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<v Speaker 2>We'll come back on the other side and see if

463
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<v Speaker 2>we can chat with our friend doctor McElroy right here

464
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<v Speaker 2>in Sports Talk seven ninety.

465
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<v Speaker 3>That's right, thirty.

466
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<v Speaker 2>Minutes left or so here before we get out of

467
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<v Speaker 2>here for the weekend, and we now bring him in.

468
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<v Speaker 2>He is doctor Eric McElroy from Pro Reap Physical Therapy.

469
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<v Speaker 2>Eric is somebody who is you know, former athlete yourself

470
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<v Speaker 2>obviously still very much involved in the sports world with

471
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<v Speaker 2>sports medicine.

472
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<v Speaker 3>Physical therapy. Are you a big Olympics guy?

473
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<v Speaker 2>Like, is it something you really try to set aside

474
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<v Speaker 2>time to get into it, because I've admitted throughout the

475
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<v Speaker 2>week it's one of those things that I I mean,

476
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<v Speaker 2>if I really wanted to get into it, I would,

477
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<v Speaker 2>but I just it's never really took off from me,

478
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<v Speaker 2>and I feel like a bad sports fan, a bad

479
00:21:54.799 --> 00:21:57.079
<v Speaker 2>American in fact, Well, I.

480
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<v Speaker 6>Don't think you're a bad sports fan.

481
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<v Speaker 7>These are sports that you know, it's just hard to follow, right,

482
00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:04.200
<v Speaker 7>They're not mainstream, they're not out there all the time.

483
00:22:05.279 --> 00:22:08.160
<v Speaker 7>There's a lot of competition obviously in the States where

484
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<v Speaker 7>we live.

485
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<v Speaker 6>So but to answer your question, I absolutely love the Olympics.

486
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<v Speaker 7>But as you know from all the years of us

487
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<v Speaker 7>doing this, I love all sports.

488
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<v Speaker 6>I can watch anything. I just love human performance.

489
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<v Speaker 7>It's incredible to me what these athletes can do with

490
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<v Speaker 7>their bodies, and whether the Olympics or any sport. But yeah,

491
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<v Speaker 7>I'm very big into the Olympics, and I just appreciate

492
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<v Speaker 7>the pressure the most. I think that it's you know,

493
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<v Speaker 7>if I'm in football and I tweet my hamstring, I

494
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<v Speaker 7>missed a game. I got another game too, you know,

495
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<v Speaker 7>two or three weeks down the road. If I'm a

496
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<v Speaker 7>hundred meter track athlete that's had a chance to go

497
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<v Speaker 7>to the Olympics, I tweak my hamskirt, hamstring. I got

498
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<v Speaker 7>four years before I can do it again if I

499
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<v Speaker 7>get there.

500
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<v Speaker 6>And I just think the pressure is unbelievable.

501
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<v Speaker 7>And I just think that, you know, watching these athletes

502
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<v Speaker 7>you have to.

503
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<v Speaker 2>Do yeah, And I think, you know, at times when

504
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<v Speaker 2>it comes to professional sports, I mean I think we

505
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<v Speaker 2>deep down, if we thought about it, we would say, yeah,

506
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<v Speaker 2>these guys that we watch in the NFL, who watch

507
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<v Speaker 2>in the NBA, they probably really work hard and and

508
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<v Speaker 2>really put a lot into making sure their bodies are

509
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<v Speaker 2>you know, doing what they're doing what they can to

510
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<v Speaker 2>prevent injury as best as possible and taking care of

511
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<v Speaker 2>themselves and whatnot. But I think there's you know, when

512
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<v Speaker 2>you're just sitting at home watching on the couch, you

513
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<v Speaker 2>sometimes just think, like, that guy is so talented. He

514
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<v Speaker 2>just showed up to work and and and you know,

515
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<v Speaker 2>looked like one of the best athletes on the planet.

516
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<v Speaker 2>I think the Olympics, at least for me, it's it's

517
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<v Speaker 2>it's really been an eye opener as far as man.

518
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<v Speaker 2>It's it's one thing to have the ability and the

519
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<v Speaker 2>skill and what not to be an Olympic athlete representing

520
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<v Speaker 2>your country, but man, just the the daily routine as

521
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<v Speaker 2>far as taking care of your body to be able

522
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<v Speaker 2>to Like the reason I'm bringing up is because I

523
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<v Speaker 2>feel like swimmers, divers, like I'm sure every professional app

524
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<v Speaker 2>every Olympic athlete has a very intense training regimen. They

525
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<v Speaker 2>got to make you know, they got to be always

526
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<v Speaker 2>be making sure they're taking care of themselves. But when

527
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<v Speaker 2>I hear stories of swimmers and divers and sort of

528
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<v Speaker 2>what their day looks like, you know, year round, almost

529
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<v Speaker 2>like it's insane. I guess I'm asking, you know, are

530
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<v Speaker 2>there some sports to where like people wouldn't believe like

531
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<v Speaker 2>what goes into even being in that position outside of

532
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<v Speaker 2>just you know, watching somebody out there performing.

533
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, ye, I don't know if I can think of

534
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<v Speaker 7>a sport in particular. I mean, you named any of

535
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<v Speaker 7>these sports. I mean, I think table tennis. I mean

536
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<v Speaker 7>I think you know, it was funny I had a

537
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<v Speaker 7>patient local maybe you know, three or four years ago,

538
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<v Speaker 7>maybe longer. He's he was able to go to the

539
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<v Speaker 7>Olympic Trials and table tennis.

540
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<v Speaker 6>And at the time he was now he's in his.

541
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<v Speaker 7>You know, late forties, early fifties maybe, but just hearing

542
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<v Speaker 7>him talk about everything he had to do and something

543
00:24:46.400 --> 00:24:50.279
<v Speaker 7>that we play in our garage or basement to compete

544
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<v Speaker 7>at the level he needed to table tennis and to

545
00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:55.799
<v Speaker 7>obviously he didn't make it through the Olympics, but then

546
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<v Speaker 7>to compare that to some of these countries that are

547
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<v Speaker 7>just extremely good and something like that, and what they

548
00:25:01.640 --> 00:25:04.680
<v Speaker 7>can do. You know, we think we're we're you know,

549
00:25:05.559 --> 00:25:08.160
<v Speaker 7>good with table tennis and how we spin a ball

550
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<v Speaker 7>on occasion.

551
00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:11.319
<v Speaker 6>I mean, stuff that they do is just insane.

552
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<v Speaker 7>And it's just the amount of work and effort and

553
00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:17.559
<v Speaker 7>time it takes for something that we think of as

554
00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:19.599
<v Speaker 7>you know, something we would do with our buddies.

555
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<v Speaker 6>It's incredible.

556
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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

557
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<v Speaker 7>And and those are sports that I think that we

558
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<v Speaker 7>kind of joke about. And it's funny because it's not

559
00:25:25.599 --> 00:25:30.920
<v Speaker 7>you know, the mainstream track and field, you know, swimming, gymnastics,

560
00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:34.559
<v Speaker 7>those things that we we you know, really appreciate the

561
00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:37.359
<v Speaker 7>athleticism of these athletes, but you know it's all these

562
00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:40.079
<v Speaker 7>other sports that we kind of take for granted, and

563
00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:42.680
<v Speaker 7>then you put it in perspectives compared to like a

564
00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:46.200
<v Speaker 7>normal quote unquote amateur, and it's like totally count and

565
00:25:46.599 --> 00:25:47.680
<v Speaker 7>they have to work really hard.

566
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<v Speaker 6>They have injuries, and they have issues and.

567
00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:51.359
<v Speaker 7>Have to train, and they have to work on endurance

568
00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:54.720
<v Speaker 7>and on of coordination and things that we take for

569
00:25:54.799 --> 00:25:57.319
<v Speaker 7>granted we don't think about it. It goes into making them,

570
00:25:58.039 --> 00:25:58.599
<v Speaker 7>you know, get.

571
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<v Speaker 6>To the level that they could go of gold medal.

572
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<v Speaker 7>So, you know, I still think when you would also

573
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<v Speaker 7>appreciate is when you hear these athletes talk about, you know,

574
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<v Speaker 7>what it means to them to win a gold medal.

575
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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you have NBA players.

576
00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:15.799
<v Speaker 7>Who've won NBA championships and they still think about there's

577
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<v Speaker 7>something to be said about showing you're the best in

578
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<v Speaker 7>the world.

579
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I mean it's so and it's also something

580
00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:25.880
<v Speaker 2>that I would imagine can take you back to you know,

581
00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:29.599
<v Speaker 2>there are there are there are athletes representing their country

582
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<v Speaker 2>and the Olympic Games competing in a sport that you

583
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<v Speaker 2>know is not mainstream. But even the guys that are,

584
00:26:34.039 --> 00:26:36.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, the NBA players, I'm sure there's something about

585
00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:38.519
<v Speaker 2>this to where, you know, it takes them back to

586
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<v Speaker 2>before they ever were paid to play the game, before

587
00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:42.400
<v Speaker 2>they ever became super famous that I find. You know,

588
00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:44.359
<v Speaker 2>that that sounds corny, but that's something I kind of

589
00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:46.240
<v Speaker 2>think about when I see all these guys, the best

590
00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:48.519
<v Speaker 2>players in the world out there playing for you know,

591
00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:50.640
<v Speaker 2>because they want to represent their country and they want

592
00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:53.839
<v Speaker 2>to have that experience. But also, you know, these other sports,

593
00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:56.119
<v Speaker 2>the ones that don't get as much attention, Like there

594
00:26:56.119 --> 00:26:58.240
<v Speaker 2>are people who put so much time, effort, work into

595
00:26:58.279 --> 00:27:00.680
<v Speaker 2>it and dedicate their entire life, and you know they're

596
00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:03.799
<v Speaker 2>not doing it for fame and attention because that's not

597
00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:06.440
<v Speaker 2>that's not something that comes with most of these sports

598
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:08.759
<v Speaker 2>that aren't you know, in the mainstream. And again I'm

599
00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:10.400
<v Speaker 2>getting a little corny here, but like there's something to

600
00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:12.119
<v Speaker 2>be said about like and again I'm sure there's professional

601
00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:14.680
<v Speaker 2>athletes in the NFL, NBA, major League Baseball that you

602
00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:16.240
<v Speaker 2>know didn't set out to do it because they wanted

603
00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:18.400
<v Speaker 2>to be famous and be on TV. But you know,

604
00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:20.400
<v Speaker 2>now that they have it, I'm sure they appreciate it

605
00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:22.680
<v Speaker 2>and do enjoy that aspect of it. But you know

606
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:25.400
<v Speaker 2>the others man, they're they're putting as much work in,

607
00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:28.200
<v Speaker 2>maybe more, and they know deep down, even if they

608
00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:30.799
<v Speaker 2>are gold medal winners, they're gonna get you know, attention,

609
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:33.599
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna get notoriety, They're gonna be compensated. But you

610
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:35.440
<v Speaker 2>know that isn't the reason they got into it, you

611
00:27:35.480 --> 00:27:35.839
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean?

612
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:39.359
<v Speaker 6>Oh absolutely, And I give you a local example.

613
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<v Speaker 7>You know, Louisville as one of the most and you

614
00:27:42.720 --> 00:27:45.519
<v Speaker 7>know most most local Louisville fans bringing it back to here,

615
00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:49.960
<v Speaker 7>you know know that that the University of louisll has

616
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<v Speaker 7>one of the best swim programs in the country and

617
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:56.720
<v Speaker 7>they've produced multiple multiple Olympians and not just from the

618
00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:01.319
<v Speaker 7>United States, but from you know, internationally, and it's and

619
00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:03.519
<v Speaker 7>we've been very fortunate to work with some and one

620
00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:07.079
<v Speaker 7>in particular who wasn't who is an American. Uh, you know,

621
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:10.519
<v Speaker 7>she had the world record at the one hundred meters

622
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:13.519
<v Speaker 7>fly at one time, and it's like the world record

623
00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:18.640
<v Speaker 7>that's the best time ever stamped right on in the

624
00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:21.400
<v Speaker 7>world ever. And she can walk in and out of

625
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:23.400
<v Speaker 7>the clinic and people know she's an athlete, but that's it,

626
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:25.720
<v Speaker 7>you know what I mean. Whereas we've had some other

627
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<v Speaker 7>athletes in there, they're a little bit more and you know,

628
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<v Speaker 7>a little bigger exposure sports that are more.

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<v Speaker 6>Mainstream, and they may not even be at the highest level,

630
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<v Speaker 6>but they're all like, oh, that's so, and.

631
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<v Speaker 7>So, that's so and so, you know, and it's just incredible,

632
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:44.279
<v Speaker 7>like you said, the work that she put in to that. Yeah,

633
00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:46.720
<v Speaker 7>and it's just like insane, you know what I mean. Yeah,

634
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<v Speaker 7>So you know, and it's and like you said, it's.

635
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<v Speaker 6>Not because she wanted notoriety at all. It's because this

636
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<v Speaker 6>is these.

637
00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:56.599
<v Speaker 4>Are ambitions and goals and yet she's made her successful

638
00:28:56.599 --> 00:28:59.359
<v Speaker 4>and she's done well, but it's not to the level

639
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:01.119
<v Speaker 4>like you and I I would think of as somebody

640
00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:03.160
<v Speaker 4>who's putting that same amount of work and effort into

641
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:07.119
<v Speaker 4>a sport where obviously the monetary gain is substantially different.

642
00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:07.559
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

643
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:11.000
<v Speaker 2>And that's a great example, because you know, her having

644
00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:14.000
<v Speaker 2>that world record and being you know, that good at

645
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:17.119
<v Speaker 2>her craft, what she does in her sport is something

646
00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:19.759
<v Speaker 2>that you know, guys who've made millions of millions of

647
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:22.799
<v Speaker 2>dollars in one championships in the NBA, in the NFL,

648
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:24.839
<v Speaker 2>like they can't claim that they have that kind of

649
00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:26.680
<v Speaker 2>record that they held for a while. So and again,

650
00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:28.880
<v Speaker 2>you're right, you know, those are the kind of athletes

651
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:31.240
<v Speaker 2>that you know, I'm sure they do get some attention

652
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:34.759
<v Speaker 2>and it's it's appreciated and whatnot, but you know, knowing

653
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:37.440
<v Speaker 2>that's not the root of of what goes into it.

654
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:39.720
<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure there's plenty of others that are at

655
00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:42.039
<v Speaker 2>the elite level of the major sports to get attention

656
00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:43.799
<v Speaker 2>that that was never the root of why they wanted

657
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>to do it. But you know, there's no denying these

658
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:48.319
<v Speaker 2>are athletes that are doing it all because man, their competitors,

659
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:49.960
<v Speaker 2>they're not driven.

660
00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:50.680
<v Speaker 3>By the outside stuff.

661
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:53.640
<v Speaker 2>They know, they're probably very competitive within themselves too, right,

662
00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:55.400
<v Speaker 2>Like you got to think, like, hey, even if I

663
00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:57.480
<v Speaker 2>do get this accomplishment, that's not going to be what

664
00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:00.359
<v Speaker 2>maybe another sport would would have. So yeah, I I

665
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:03.039
<v Speaker 2>think that's something even me. I'm not an athlete myself

666
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:05.559
<v Speaker 2>to this day, but you know, I find motivation from

667
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:08.759
<v Speaker 2>others that are motivated and driven to accomplish big things,

668
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:12.200
<v Speaker 2>and there's no doubt Kelsey was. Certainly, it's certainly somebody that.

669
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:14.359
<v Speaker 3>Is a good example of that. All Right.

670
00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:16.640
<v Speaker 2>One of the athletes here as well that's well known

671
00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:19.359
<v Speaker 2>across the globe is Lebron James and he's gonna be

672
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:23.599
<v Speaker 2>forty years old in December, Eric, and I think seeing

673
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:25.599
<v Speaker 2>him still playing at this level, it's not really a

674
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:29.039
<v Speaker 2>surprise because he's never slowed down. But in your profession,

675
00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, is he going to be a case study

676
00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:33.559
<v Speaker 2>as far as somebody that you know, not only is

677
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:37.240
<v Speaker 2>one of the most athletic, god gifted talented people ever,

678
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:39.960
<v Speaker 2>but like the way his body has held up, the

679
00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:42.799
<v Speaker 2>way he has invested so much money in taking care

680
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:44.799
<v Speaker 2>of his body, I mean, you could make the case

681
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:47.119
<v Speaker 2>right now he's still the best basketball player on the

682
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:49.200
<v Speaker 2>planet and at thirty nine years old, that is far

683
00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:49.880
<v Speaker 2>from usual.

684
00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:55.480
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I would argue that he is probably physically one

685
00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:56.440
<v Speaker 7>of the most gifted.

686
00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Totally agree, if.

687
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:01.240
<v Speaker 6>Not the gifted.

688
00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:03.200
<v Speaker 7>I mean it's just, you know, not saying the best

689
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:06.640
<v Speaker 7>basketball player per se, but the best, the most gifted

690
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:09.119
<v Speaker 7>athlete hands down, And I think he could have played

691
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:12.319
<v Speaker 7>in the NFL. I mean, there's very few things that

692
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:15.920
<v Speaker 7>he couldn't have done. I'm convinced, and I think he is.

693
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:18.079
<v Speaker 6>A case study. I think the ability for him to

694
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:18.839
<v Speaker 6>be able to.

695
00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:25.240
<v Speaker 7>Minimize the amount of injuries considering that he you know,

696
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:28.319
<v Speaker 7>the mount he's played and the level he's played for

697
00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:31.160
<v Speaker 7>and the amount of games he's played.

698
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:35.839
<v Speaker 6>You know, not that college is you know, not a grind.

699
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:38.319
<v Speaker 6>But you know, he came in obviously right out of

700
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:42.279
<v Speaker 6>the gates and has been an NBA for a long time.

701
00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:45.160
<v Speaker 7>And to be able to, like you said, still be

702
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:48.720
<v Speaker 7>one of the top players and not be you know,

703
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:53.160
<v Speaker 7>have significant injuries that have really held him out for

704
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:56.279
<v Speaker 7>too long of a period of time, it's incredible.

705
00:31:56.599 --> 00:31:59.480
<v Speaker 6>Uh. And I just think that, you know, some of

706
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:03.359
<v Speaker 6>it is obviously his ability to take care of himself.

707
00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:05.200
<v Speaker 6>I think that's it. And it's all of us just

708
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:07.200
<v Speaker 6>his gifts.

709
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:08.519
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, And I think that you.

710
00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:09.720
<v Speaker 6>Know, there's just certain people.

711
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:13.640
<v Speaker 7>It's survival, the fittest, it's it's the you know, he's

712
00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:14.920
<v Speaker 7>he's a freak.

713
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:15.680
<v Speaker 6>He's an outlier.

714
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:17.319
<v Speaker 7>You know, he's not going to be some you know,

715
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:18.480
<v Speaker 7>so he's not going to be the.

716
00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:20.839
<v Speaker 6>Norm or the mean. So and you just got to

717
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:21.559
<v Speaker 6>appreciate it.

718
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:25.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think Lebron is somebody that you know, I

719
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:29.079
<v Speaker 2>at times forget that he's the age that he is

720
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:30.880
<v Speaker 2>and he's not an old man. But I mean there

721
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:33.079
<v Speaker 2>are dudes who, you know, father time will get him

722
00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:35.400
<v Speaker 2>at thirty three, thirty two, and it's just it's not

723
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:38.839
<v Speaker 2>that uncommon. And he has maintained I mean just I mean,

724
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:42.119
<v Speaker 2>being again an athletic freak, and I think you know,

725
00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:44.599
<v Speaker 2>he's I would love to hear maybe it's out there

726
00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:47.400
<v Speaker 2>and I just haven't haven't you know, heard about his story,

727
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:49.079
<v Speaker 2>but you know, this is a guy that really has

728
00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:51.720
<v Speaker 2>been fortunate to never have any real big injury that

729
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:54.559
<v Speaker 2>he had to have a major comeback from. But there's

730
00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:57.079
<v Speaker 2>clearly always been a level of, hey, I gotta I

731
00:32:57.079 --> 00:32:59.240
<v Speaker 2>gotta take care of them. I got to not only

732
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:01.960
<v Speaker 2>take care of my boy and be mindful of everything.

733
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:04.680
<v Speaker 2>I also need to continue to educate myself on things

734
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:07.359
<v Speaker 2>I could do to make sure that if there's something,

735
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:09.440
<v Speaker 2>because again he's gonna have resources that nobody else would have.

736
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:11.279
<v Speaker 2>He's Lebron James, and you know, I just I would

737
00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:12.640
<v Speaker 2>love to know where he got that from, because I

738
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:14.079
<v Speaker 2>think some people learn the hard way, not that they've

739
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:16.519
<v Speaker 2>done anything wrong, but they realized, oh wow, you know,

740
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:18.559
<v Speaker 2>I never I thought I was invincible, And you know,

741
00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:20.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe he is that because he's so gifted. But yeah,

742
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:23.519
<v Speaker 2>Lebron is uh, he's one of one, and I'd look

743
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:24.839
<v Speaker 2>forward to seeing him and the rest of the team

744
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:27.279
<v Speaker 2>USA and and hopefully they can. I don't see a

745
00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:28.920
<v Speaker 2>scenario they don't bring back the gold, but you know,

746
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:31.359
<v Speaker 2>well we'll see, we'll see what happens. But Eric, I

747
00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:33.599
<v Speaker 2>appreciate you just always making time for us. Enjoy the

748
00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:35.400
<v Speaker 2>rest of your Friday, have a great weekend, and we

749
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:35.960
<v Speaker 2>will talk soon.

750
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:36.359
<v Speaker 3>My friend.

751
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:39.000
<v Speaker 6>That sounds good, Nick, I have a going man.

752
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:41.279
<v Speaker 2>Take care of that's doctor Eric McElroy. PROTI of physical there.

753
00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:44.119
<v Speaker 2>But we always enjoy the conversation. Good stuff there. All right,

754
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:45.839
<v Speaker 2>we'll come back on the other side, wrap this thing

755
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:47.119
<v Speaker 2>up and get out of here for the weekend.

756
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:48.680
<v Speaker 3>And I'm gonna get out of here for a whole week.

757
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:51.319
<v Speaker 3>That's right.

758
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:54.200
<v Speaker 2>It is coffee and Company fuel Bute Thornton's. And we

759
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:55.920
<v Speaker 2>only have a few minutes left before we get out

760
00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:58.960
<v Speaker 2>of here for the weekend. And and I'm out here

761
00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:00.839
<v Speaker 2>for a week. You got a big week planged John.

762
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:03.000
<v Speaker 5>And I'm going down to or I should say, up

763
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:05.799
<v Speaker 5>to Patoco Lake with my family time this summer. So

764
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:07.440
<v Speaker 5>I'm looking forward to that. Haven't been out on the

765
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:09.079
<v Speaker 5>boat in a while and it should be a good

766
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:11.800
<v Speaker 5>weekend for nice. Patoco Lake is really, really nice. I

767
00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:13.920
<v Speaker 5>used to go there a lot as a kid with

768
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:17.639
<v Speaker 5>my stepmother's family. But yeah, it's a nice place. Is

769
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:18.840
<v Speaker 5>it gonna be hot as can beed?

770
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:19.079
<v Speaker 1>You know?

771
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:22.119
<v Speaker 5>And I think the high tomorrow is ninety and I

772
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:24.239
<v Speaker 5>do think there's not really much of a chance of rain,

773
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:27.360
<v Speaker 5>but hopefully the humidity's pretty low. But you know what, regardless,

774
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:29.320
<v Speaker 5>there's always the water if you need to cool off.

775
00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:31.840
<v Speaker 5>But I'm not the kind of guy who I don't

776
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:33.320
<v Speaker 5>really like being in the water the way that I

777
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:34.920
<v Speaker 5>used to. I like to just chill in the boat,

778
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:38.480
<v Speaker 5>have a huge drinks, not even really alcoholic beverages, but

779
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:41.000
<v Speaker 5>just like some gatorades or whatever, and you know, talking

780
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:41.400
<v Speaker 5>with people.

781
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:42.079
<v Speaker 3>That's what I like to do.

782
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:45.519
<v Speaker 2>I have become like I've never been a big guy.

783
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:47.440
<v Speaker 2>I've never been a big water guy when it comes

784
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:49.360
<v Speaker 2>to a lake or I like getting in the ocean,

785
00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:52.039
<v Speaker 2>but you know, it's not like I you know, obsessed

786
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:53.840
<v Speaker 2>with or anything. But even now, like when I go

787
00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:56.599
<v Speaker 2>to a pool, I find myself just you know, like

788
00:34:56.639 --> 00:35:00.239
<v Speaker 2>if I can survive without getting in you know where

789
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm not burning alive, I'll do that. And I'm not

790
00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:07.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm not big on the water myself, but yeah,

791
00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:11.119
<v Speaker 2>I uh, I'll tell you what. The the lake scene

792
00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:14.480
<v Speaker 2>is always something that I've envied people who, you know,

793
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:17.039
<v Speaker 2>that's a big part of their like their life in

794
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:19.519
<v Speaker 2>summers and springs, you know, they they get out for

795
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:20.360
<v Speaker 2>the weekend, head.

796
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:20.639
<v Speaker 3>To the lake.

797
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:24.320
<v Speaker 2>But uh, yeah, I'm also scared of the water too,

798
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:26.960
<v Speaker 2>which is yeah, I mean not really the lake, but

799
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:28.400
<v Speaker 2>like if I'm out in the ocean somewhere.

800
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:29.800
<v Speaker 3>Like That's why I've never gone on a cruise. Have

801
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:31.239
<v Speaker 3>you ever gone on a cruise? I haven't.

802
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:34.599
<v Speaker 5>I would be willing to, depending on the type of cruise.

803
00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:36.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but like I would love to.

804
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:37.480
<v Speaker 5>Go on a rock and roll cruise. There's a lot

805
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:38.920
<v Speaker 5>of those out there in the relays. I think those

806
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:39.480
<v Speaker 5>would be fun.

807
00:35:39.639 --> 00:35:41.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's all kinds of niche cruises, like you know,

808
00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:43.920
<v Speaker 2>like for certain interests, which I think is totally cool,

809
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:47.840
<v Speaker 2>like the I I wish I was not afraid, and

810
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:49.480
<v Speaker 2>I think I would be fired if I went on

811
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:51.039
<v Speaker 2>it and I would get over it. Maybe it would

812
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:54.119
<v Speaker 2>be something, you know, fun for me to conquer my fear.

813
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:54.760
<v Speaker 7>Uh.

814
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:57.840
<v Speaker 2>But if I'm on if I'm on water and I

815
00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:01.880
<v Speaker 2>can't see land, I'm I have a panic attack, which

816
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:04.280
<v Speaker 2>hasn't happened often, but it has happened. Like we went

817
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.000
<v Speaker 2>to Cabo last year, we did venture out far enough

818
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:09.960
<v Speaker 2>to where you started to lose distance of anything around you,

819
00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:11.400
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't.

820
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:12.360
<v Speaker 3>I didn't like that that.

821
00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:15.800
<v Speaker 5>If there's enough things to distract me from thinking about that,

822
00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:18.400
<v Speaker 5>hopefully I would be fine. But again I've never tried it,

823
00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:19.679
<v Speaker 5>so I guess I would have to do it to

824
00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:20.159
<v Speaker 5>find out.

825
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think even like last year when we went

826
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:25.599
<v Speaker 2>to Destin, which is where we're going next week, my

827
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:28.199
<v Speaker 2>wife was trying to do some kind of like dolphin

828
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.760
<v Speaker 2>cruise and that wouldn't take us, you know, for the

829
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:32.800
<v Speaker 2>kids and whatnot, but that wouldn't take us far enough

830
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:34.480
<v Speaker 2>to wear out. But I would still just be a

831
00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:38.360
<v Speaker 2>nervous wreck. I'm I'm I'm a weirdo. I am all

832
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:40.239
<v Speaker 2>right again. You guys are gonna be a good company

833
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:43.280
<v Speaker 2>next week with me out and I'll return the following week,

834
00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:47.599
<v Speaker 2>and you know, maybe i'll pop on pop on Twitter, Facebook,

835
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:50.159
<v Speaker 2>YouTube live and do something to react to the to

836
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:52.559
<v Speaker 2>the games next week. Maybe I won't. I'm not sure

837
00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:56.679
<v Speaker 2>I'll play by year, but uh, I'm gonna miss out on,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, talking about things that I want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>But we'll have the following week and I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to let it, you know, impact the vacation that's coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>So everybody have a good weekend and I'll talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you guys on August the fifth,
