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Speaker 2: six five three zero seven nineties the number. But he sick,
Speaker 2: says Nick. Do you believe that Mark Pope will end
Speaker 2: up making the trip to Freedom Hall to support his
Speaker 2: law familiar team. I know Pat Kelsey can't be there
Speaker 2: for obvious reasons, but if Pope is there, we need to.
Speaker 3: Make sure we boo his bald ass. Is he is
Speaker 3: he bald?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's bald, I mean bald or just short, like
Speaker 2: I'm not bald, right, I mean.
Speaker 3: You have you have a I don't even know what
Speaker 3: you call it, but you have had I guess yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean like he's got here though I'm looking at it. Well,
Speaker 2: he's got something. It's very little, like every picture I'm
Speaker 2: seeing of him, like you can see a hairline. So like,
Speaker 2: honestly the picture that I'm looking here at this article
Speaker 2: that says Mark pope'son talk to take over at Kentucky,
Speaker 2: that's honestly the same. I mean I never thought about it.
Speaker 2: Actually I have the same haircut as Mark Pope. Now
Speaker 2: that I'm looking at I guess you're I mean, like
Speaker 2: it's it's not really a haircut or a hair style.
Speaker 2: It's just we we've decided to have very very little
Speaker 2: hair and I can I'll give him this. Hope he
Speaker 2: loses every game he coaches. I hope he gets his
Speaker 2: ass boot out of Freedom Hall if he shows up
Speaker 2: but he and I are brothers in this way. We
Speaker 2: have that haircut because we want it. Don't let people
Speaker 2: think that it's because we got a bad hairline or
Speaker 2: that you know, we're balding.
Speaker 3: We just we like to keep it short. He doesn't
Speaker 3: have a good hairline though, it's not it's receding. For sure,
Speaker 3: it could be worse.
Speaker 2: He's a lot older than me, but like it's not. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, look I got news for you, brother. If
Speaker 2: you think that's a bad hairline, I mean, I hope
Speaker 2: some terrible well because I mean, like that's it's receding.
Speaker 3: But I'll put it this way.
Speaker 2: He has a receding hairline, But I wouldn't say that
Speaker 2: he has a terrible hairline to where like he's like
Speaker 2: a lot of people if they got a bad hairline,
Speaker 2: they're covering up with hair or they're going bald, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like, I don't think he has
Speaker 2: anything to be you know, it is age. How old
Speaker 2: is Mark Pope? Fifty forty eight? Like that he's fifty one,
Speaker 2: Like I feel like that's a pretty good hairline for
Speaker 2: fifty one. Yeah, because he's you know, he's he's fifteen
Speaker 2: sixteen years older.
Speaker 4: Than me.
Speaker 2: He does absolutely, So I don't know if he'll be there,
Speaker 2: but it wouldn't shock me if he is there, and
Speaker 2: I you know, you should be. Yeah, I don't have
Speaker 2: much worry about the like the team not being there.
Speaker 2: Somebody else had mentioned that earlier on the text line
Speaker 2: that it kind of feels like there'll be some mojo
Speaker 2: missing from this run that the vill is on because
Speaker 2: the team's going to be in the Bahamas.
Speaker 3: But I don't what if cal appeared.
Speaker 5: I don't think that would happen.
Speaker 3: Oh God, that'd be wild.
Speaker 2: Well, because you're right, there's every single one of them
Speaker 2: are his players that are the former UK guys, the
Speaker 2: others that in fact, the only guy that plays for
Speaker 2: them that's not a UK guys is Kareem Cancer, who
Speaker 2: is in his Cancer's brother, which I guess is you know,
Speaker 2: there's there's there's literally a connection there. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know if he'll be there, but it wouldn't shock
Speaker 2: me if he is, and uh, you know, heck, I look,
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you man, like I know Brom's
Speaker 2: going to be there unless there's something going on that
Speaker 2: I'm unaware of. Maybe not because there's camp starting. But
Speaker 2: either way, like, Brohm's been that every game, and I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure Brom has been at every TVT game that
Speaker 2: Louisville's had in both seasons. And it isn't just because
Speaker 2: he knows it's a good look and he wants to
Speaker 2: show support. My man is all in on these guys.
Speaker 2: Like when these guys were playing for U of L,
Speaker 2: Jeff Brom was, I mean, let me look it up
Speaker 2: here because I know he went back to I know
Speaker 2: he went back to Western. But yeah, so when Louisville
Speaker 2: was in the midst of that twenty twelve, twenty thirteen,
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen run, Jeff Brom had just been hired by
Speaker 2: Bobby at WKU. He didn't become the head coach till
Speaker 2: till twenty fourteen, So you know, and this is not
Speaker 2: a surprise. This is probably a pretty obvious observation for
Speaker 2: anybody when you consider Jeff Brohm's story being one of
Speaker 2: the first, being a member of the first family of
Speaker 2: Louisville football, just a Louisville man to his core, and
Speaker 2: a guy who you know, came to Louisville when it
Speaker 2: wasn't the cool thing to do to play for Howard Stellenberger.
Speaker 2: But you know, if he was coaching produced still, he
Speaker 2: wouldn't be here at the TBT, but he'd probably be
Speaker 2: watching it cheering those guys on because he's I mean,
Speaker 2: this is corny and it's over the top, but you
Speaker 2: could have the most money to pay a college football
Speaker 2: coach more than anybody out there, but you can't pay
Speaker 2: what Jeff Brown brings to the table as far as
Speaker 2: him being clearly and literally one of us. Now, none
Speaker 2: of that matters if he is terrible as a coach,
Speaker 2: but you know what, he just won ten games, so
Speaker 2: he's not. But anyways, you know, I wouldn't be shocked
Speaker 2: if if like, like here's here's who I can see
Speaker 2: making an appearance because he likes to be seen, the
Speaker 2: big dog, Vince Marrow. You know, Vince Marrow is showing
Speaker 2: up trying to you know, get a camera on him
Speaker 2: like he And by the way, I've met Vince Marrow
Speaker 2: once through Matt and you know, he seems like a
Speaker 2: genuinely like a nice guy like and I see why
Speaker 2: he's a good recruiter. So you know, I wish I
Speaker 2: hadn't met him because I'd like to, you know, even
Speaker 2: if I had met him, I wouldn't assume.
Speaker 3: That he's like a bad guy, that he's a jerk,
Speaker 3: or he's.
Speaker 2: You know, anything other than just assistant coach that you
Speaker 2: know is on the.
Speaker 3: Other side of the rivalry.
Speaker 2: Uh but this, this screams big dog showing up and
Speaker 2: everybody losing their mind, like on social media.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be shocked.
Speaker 2: I mean, stoops, I can't really see him being there,
Speaker 2: but like I can see Vince Merrill being there. So
Speaker 2: as far as uh as far as U of L's team,
Speaker 2: they're gonna be the Bahama, so they can't be there.
Speaker 2: Pat Kelsey can't be there, so you know that's that's unfortunate.
Speaker 2: But uh, look, there'll be enough people there to where
Speaker 2: it's going to be a rowdy atmosphere, and I do
Speaker 2: believe that they'll be uh more Louisville fans than Kentucky.
Speaker 2: But we shall see. You never know, this is this
Speaker 2: is a different event. You know, this is different. And
Speaker 2: let's be real, even whenever it's a real game, Blue
Speaker 2: always gets in everywhere. And thankfully we won't have to
Speaker 2: worry because they're not They're not. I don't think they're
Speaker 2: gonna sell it out, but maybe they will, but you'd
Speaker 2: have to worry about like Blue getting in because Louisville
Speaker 2: fans sold them tickets, which has always been a sensitive
Speaker 2: subject because you know, I never want to knock anybody
Speaker 2: for doing whatever they do it. I mean, do whatever
Speaker 2: you want with your tickets. You bought them, you have them,
Speaker 2: you have the right to sell them. I mean it,
Speaker 2: it's money, right, but it always bothers Louisville fans to
Speaker 2: know that, Hey, I'm seeing Blue in these seats at
Speaker 2: the UM Center, and I know whose seats those are.
Speaker 2: I know which corporation has those tickets. So anyways, it's
Speaker 2: Coffee and Company, five o'clock hour here on a Friday afternoon,
Speaker 2: getting you set for the weekend. Maybe the weekend's already
Speaker 2: started for you. If that's the case, then props to you.
Speaker 2: I'll be there before too long, and then I'm out
Speaker 2: of here for a week. So again next week, you've
Speaker 2: got Scott Fitzgerald as well as Tony and Day filling in,
Speaker 2: and then I'll be back. And it is a little
Speaker 2: bit of a bummer because I always try to take
Speaker 2: my vacation whenever there's not stuff going on, and we
Speaker 2: have maybe like there cannot be a bigger basketball week
Speaker 2: that it's taking place in the month of July in
Speaker 2: my radio career than what's happening next week. Two games
Speaker 2: in the Bahamas with a brand new team. Pat Kelsey's guys.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many fans are going to the Bahamas,
Speaker 2: but obviously we're gonna be able to watch it on
Speaker 2: YouTube and that's awesome, and you know, I won't be
Speaker 2: here to talk about it, and of course the game
Speaker 2: on Monday night between La Familia and the vill So
Speaker 2: it's a bummer for me. But you know what, I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna let it ruin my vacation. It's not I'm
Speaker 2: gonna have a good time on vacation. And maybe I'll
Speaker 2: check in with Scott on Monday or Tuesday to give
Speaker 2: some thoughts on what happens or what's expected to happen.
Speaker 2: Probably be best to join him Tuesday to react to
Speaker 2: whatever happens. But then again, I kind of feel like
Speaker 2: it's one of those things because of what this event is.
Speaker 2: There's not a whole lot of postgame react like you know,
Speaker 2: once you lose, it's kind of, hey, that was fun,
Speaker 2: We'll see you next year. Like I don't think, you know,
Speaker 2: if Louisville, if I was here in the villa, is
Speaker 2: to lose Monday. I don't think phone lines are going
Speaker 2: to be full Tuesday with people questioning is rece gains
Speaker 2: the right coach for the future of the vill and
Speaker 2: the TPT likes. It's just different, man.
Speaker 5: The thing that would really trigger a big reaction be
Speaker 5: if there was just a moment where maybe there was
Speaker 5: like a fight or something that broke out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And look, I do have the ability to
Speaker 2: use the power of social media to share reactions. So
Speaker 2: you know if in look, I know a lot of
Speaker 2: you guys are already dreading next week as you're gonna
Speaker 2: you're gonna miss out on on the Nick Coffee experience.
Speaker 2: And I say that clearly being sarcastic. So again, you
Speaker 2: may you may end up being able to fill that fix,
Speaker 2: uh scratch that edge if you will, by you know,
Speaker 2: my social media stuff. I mean, I probably will end
Speaker 2: up doing some kind of a video reacting to the
Speaker 2: the Games and the Bahamas at some point if I can.
Speaker 2: If I can, you know, my wife will let me.
Speaker 2: It's like it's gonna take a long time, but you know,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna overreact to what we see, because that's what
Speaker 2: we do, overreact in a good way in a bad way,
Speaker 2: like we always do that. But now we're in a
Speaker 2: different spot now, right, this is I mean, this is
Speaker 2: brand new and none of.
Speaker 3: Us have a clue really what to expect.
Speaker 2: But speaking of that, here is here's something that that
Speaker 2: I you know, a couple of things that that I
Speaker 2: hope to see in these games next week. And I'm
Speaker 2: aware they could win by fifty and it won't mean
Speaker 2: a whole lot because of the competition, Like you know,
Speaker 2: it'll be impressive and I'll be encouraged. But if they
Speaker 2: end up, you know, being close with one of these
Speaker 2: teams for a chunk of the game, or they blow
Speaker 2: both of them out by fifty, it's still gonna be
Speaker 2: tough to know exactly what that means. I'd say, you know,
Speaker 2: you could be in you should be encouraged. If they
Speaker 2: blow them out, maybe you would think to yourself, Okay,
Speaker 2: they get a little work to do before they before
Speaker 2: they kind of round out into form. Either way, like
Speaker 2: you know, decide how you want to react. But I
Speaker 2: think given that they've had practices the available and they
Speaker 2: got ten extra practices guys because of this event that's
Speaker 2: a lot in the summer, So they have actually had
Speaker 2: a lot more work than most teams in the summer,
Speaker 2: which is important because it's a brand new team.
Speaker 3: So what I hope to see is somewhat of an identity.
Speaker 2: I think Pat Kelsey's going to play a lot of
Speaker 2: guys to kind of see what he has, right, Like,
Speaker 2: I know he evaluated these guys in the portal offered him,
Speaker 2: liked him clearly, or wouldn't have brought them in. He's
Speaker 2: been able to see them in practice. But I think
Speaker 2: there's also something about kind of seeing in a real
Speaker 2: game situation. And even though it's not a real game,
Speaker 2: it's an actual game situation. He's gonna play a lot
Speaker 2: of guys. But I hope to see the identity that
Speaker 2: I that I think we're getting with a Pat Kelsey
Speaker 2: as as the head coach. A team that is gonna
Speaker 2: play fast, They're gonna they're gonna space it out. We're
Speaker 2: talking sometimes having five out, Yes you heard that right,
Speaker 2: five guys out. You know, play really fast, have a
Speaker 2: lot of possessions, but also you know, have some energy
Speaker 2: on defense, you know. I he talked about Alabama in
Speaker 2: one of his recent actually it was his press commence,
Speaker 2: I think it was he talked about how he he
Speaker 2: he thinks defensively, he would compare his teams to what
Speaker 2: natoates and Alabama does, which you know, a lot of
Speaker 2: people made fun of that as if that means the
Speaker 2: defense is gonna suck. Alabama was awful defensively last year,
Speaker 2: but they also end up making a Foual four. But
Speaker 2: in years before that, like they've had like one really
Speaker 2: bad year defensively, but NATO it's's teams defensively at Alabama
Speaker 2: in some years have been near the best in the country. So,
Speaker 2: you know, we had no identity, no style, no calling card,
Speaker 2: like it was open gym essentially in these last two years.
Speaker 3: So the bar is going to be low.
Speaker 2: But man, I you know, to see this brand new
Speaker 2: team already kind of have an identity established to where
Speaker 2: they you know, they know what they want to do,
Speaker 2: they know what they want to get in as far
Speaker 2: as sets, they know what kind of pace they want
Speaker 2: to you know, initiate, and doing it against that kind
Speaker 2: of competition isn't going to mean a lot. But you know,
Speaker 2: I don't think it's asking too much to see Okay,
Speaker 2: I can watch this team play, this random bunch of
Speaker 2: dudes from Bahamas, this team from Canada, and I now
Speaker 2: can tell you that I know what they want to do,
Speaker 2: who they want to be, and also I mean I
Speaker 2: want to I'm excited to see every one of these
Speaker 2: players because they're all brand new, and you know, when
Speaker 2: you go to the portal and you're going to get
Speaker 2: guys that have had good careers, you know, any of
Speaker 2: these dudes could ball out and look like, Okay, this
Speaker 2: guy's going to probably have to start because he looks phenomenal,
Speaker 2: Like I don't want to act like they got the
Speaker 2: dream team here. But again, because of how the roster
Speaker 2: was put together, the type of personnel that was brought in,
Speaker 2: like every one of these dudes outside of two I
Speaker 2: think are entering this entering the Louisville program with Pat
Speaker 2: Kelsey having accomplished quite a bit and having you know,
Speaker 2: significant roles where they were now again, maybe it doesn't translate,
Speaker 2: but like Big Frank who transferred in from Georgia I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: not Georgia, Yeah, from Georgia by way of Syracuse. And
Speaker 2: also Connie Rus who's a freshman. Everybody else man they've had,
Speaker 2: you know, not roles to where they were the man
Speaker 2: on their team. But you know, Noah Waterman started every
Speaker 2: game for BYU, and he averaged ten and five in
Speaker 2: the toughest conference in the country, in the Big Twelve. So, like,
Speaker 2: you know, wouldn't shock me if he ends up being
Speaker 2: one of the best players on this team and has
Speaker 2: a great year. But the one guy that I've always
Speaker 2: been really bullish on that I just I don't want
Speaker 2: to say people are disrespecting him or they're forgetting him
Speaker 2: or acting like, you know, he's not any good. But
Speaker 2: I just don't hear a lot about him. And that
Speaker 2: is cater trei Ora. He's the transfer from Long Beach State.
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy is I mean, and his stat
Speaker 2: sheet is is just makes no sense. Like I don't
Speaker 2: even know who you'd compare him to. He's I mean,
Speaker 2: he's he's something special. I mean, you look at his
Speaker 2: his numbers. I'm trying to pull up what his stat
Speaker 2: line was because I mean, it didn't even make sense
Speaker 2: to have the kind of stat line that he had.
Speaker 2: Yet so last year at San Diego State, by the way,
Speaker 2: he had two triple doubles. But he's a six '
Speaker 2: five big man kind like he to me is the
Speaker 2: positionless player because he can handle the ball, he cannot
Speaker 2: shoot it, doesn't shoot the three well, doesn't shoot it often,
Speaker 2: and teams know that so they don't guard him out there.
Speaker 3: But you know what he does. He's got such a
Speaker 3: good vision.
Speaker 2: He's such a good passer that you know he'll he'll
Speaker 2: he's not just going to be shy out there. He'll
Speaker 2: he'll get in the lane and make a play and
Speaker 2: drop it off to somebody. I mean, he's that really
Speaker 2: good vision. But he averaged twelve points, eight rebounds, four
Speaker 2: and a half assists in one block I'm sorry, one
Speaker 2: point five blocks per game last year. I mean, he
Speaker 2: just he stuffs the stat sheet, shot fifty one percent
Speaker 2: from the field. Overall, does a little bit of everything,
Speaker 2: and he's got length and athleticism to where I mean,
Speaker 2: somebody asked me the other day, like, who do you
Speaker 2: think is gonna have the most dunks on the team.
Speaker 2: My guess is on him because of just how long
Speaker 2: an athletic he is, and he runs the floor. So
Speaker 2: I think he'll be a guy that maybe doesn't start
Speaker 2: but still plays a lot of minutes and there'll be games.
Speaker 2: I feel like, just given his unique skill set and
Speaker 2: a guy that seemingly can do a lot of things,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: Be shocked if if he's a guy that you look back.
Speaker 2: At the end of next year and feel like, Okay,
Speaker 2: without him, we don't win that game. All right, real quick,
Speaker 2: before we get to a break, we are going to
Speaker 2: effort our man.
Speaker 3: I say our man. I mean he's a doctor, and
Speaker 3: I shouldn't just say he's like one of our buddies.
Speaker 3: I mean he is. We love him.
Speaker 2: He's doctor Eric Miclroy. But you know, I got to
Speaker 2: put some respect on his name. He's an MD. But
Speaker 2: we're going to try to get him on the line
Speaker 2: coming up here in the next ten minutes or so.
Speaker 2: I believe we're going to be able to make that happen.
Speaker 2: Talk to him about the Olympics, and I'm just curious
Speaker 2: from the sports medicine side, the physical therapy side of
Speaker 2: the of the Olympics, as far as what these guys
Speaker 2: go through with training. I mean, there's certain sports to
Speaker 2: where the training regiment is probably not only intense, but
Speaker 2: like something you would never expect an athlete to do.
Speaker 2: But again, there's a lot of sports in the Olympics
Speaker 2: that you would probably did know existed. But real quick, what
Speaker 2: I wanted to get to before I run out of time.
Speaker 2: When it comes to the ACC's current position, I don't
Speaker 2: think there's a scenario where you just do this and
Speaker 2: everybody's happy and the ACC is no longer worried about
Speaker 2: its future and the big dogs are not, you know,
Speaker 2: worried about being lapped multiple times when it comes to
Speaker 2: annual revenue for media rites like I don't know if
Speaker 2: that scenario exists, but maybe this is that.
Speaker 3: Maybe this is it.
Speaker 2: So see all Brown, to give him a lot of credit,
Speaker 2: he put this together at the Courier Journal, and I
Speaker 2: think this is this is something you could realistically do
Speaker 2: and it would make a big impact. I'll just read
Speaker 2: directly from his column here, says he wrote that Phillips
Speaker 2: needs Phillips needs to make a move that's so obvious
Speaker 2: he's already helped implement.
Speaker 3: So move back up a second.
Speaker 2: Yes, says Phillips needs to make a move that's so
Speaker 2: obvious he's already helped implement it on a smaller scale.
Speaker 2: To save the league, Phillips must go all in and
Speaker 2: revamp the revenue share structure. No more equal pay for
Speaker 2: just being a member. It's time schools earn their share
Speaker 2: based on production. It's the best way the league can
Speaker 2: solidify its membership. In the same way, signing the grant
Speaker 2: of rights continues to keep it together. The ACC is
Speaker 2: already embraced, albeit reluctantly, awarding a performance based bonus to
Speaker 2: schools and how they fare in the top two revenue
Speaker 2: generating sports, football and men's basketball. Phillips said that between
Speaker 2: twenty to twenty five million in additional revenue can be
Speaker 2: earned by schools based on their success in those two sports.
Speaker 2: And look, let's be real. The team that would be
Speaker 2: not willing to do that, right, they would fight you
Speaker 2: and say, oh no, I don't think so we agreed
Speaker 2: to this, you know, Boston College, SMU CAL and Stanford.
Speaker 3: No, we agreed.
Speaker 2: And by the way, those school aren't getting any any
Speaker 2: of the They're not getting an equal share for for
Speaker 2: quite some time. But you know, I keep mentioning Boston College.
Speaker 2: I don't want to pick on them, but they're the
Speaker 2: obvious one. Georgia Tech throw them in there too.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh, I mean, they've not done much of anything for
Speaker 2: the major sports in a long time. I guess they
Speaker 2: did have that random COVID year. I mean, heck, throw
Speaker 2: Syracuse in there. They've stunke in basketball and they've always
Speaker 2: kind of stunk in football. So with I mean, wake Forest,
Speaker 2: throw them in there. So when it comes and I look,
Speaker 2: I know elephant in the room, Loisvell has not. You know,
Speaker 2: Molvi did play in the a SEC championship game last year.
Speaker 2: That's pretty big deal. And also in basketball, yeah, they've
Speaker 2: not been good in a while, and you know, they
Speaker 2: would be entitled to no new revenue. But here's the thing,
Speaker 2: they still when it comes to what's valued, they still
Speaker 2: bring a lot of eyeballs. I mean they didn't during
Speaker 2: the Kenny Pyne air. But even when they weren't winning
Speaker 2: the ACC, Louisville basketball was still one of the bigger
Speaker 2: products in the conference when it comes to men's hoops
Speaker 2: because it's a program that will generate a ton of
Speaker 2: viewership and that kind of stuff matters, and you you know,
Speaker 2: and wouldn't be a shocker if Louisville basketball becomes good again.
Speaker 2: The league is not as good as it once was,
Speaker 2: and you know, Pat kelsey Evan success here would not
Speaker 2: be a shock to many people. So if those schools
Speaker 2: like Boston College, Wake Forest, Pittsburgh, Georgia Tech, like if
Speaker 2: they wanted to say, oh no, you can't do that,
Speaker 2: we agree to it. I mean tell them, well, hey,
Speaker 2: then we're probably gonna have you know, well, what do
Speaker 2: you want? You want to lose this lawsuit and let
Speaker 2: Florida State and Clemson walk and then we have to
Speaker 2: reset and we're going to get even less money. Like
Speaker 2: you know, they don't have anywhere to go, they have
Speaker 2: no leverage, they know they're not worthy of the money
Speaker 2: that they get from the ACC. So I think this
Speaker 2: is actually and let's be honest with you when it
Speaker 2: comes to the hey.
Speaker 3: Look, you get what you're worth, You get what you earn.
Speaker 2: That's now the new world of college athletics when it
Speaker 2: comes to nil, right, Like that's what we're telling these athletes.
Speaker 2: Why can't we tell these schools the same thing, Like
Speaker 2: don't be jealous. I mean, hey, if if your teammates
Speaker 2: getting your teammates getting you know, a ten thousand dollars
Speaker 2: a month in IL deal and you got a deal
Speaker 2: that's you know, worth a hundred bucks, like that's that's
Speaker 2: that's what you're worth by definition, that's what somebody is
Speaker 2: willing to pay you. So, you know, I think if
Speaker 2: you really fatten the pockets and look as much as
Speaker 2: they've been crying about it and you don't want it,
Speaker 2: is given what they want. Florida State and Clemson are
Speaker 2: right that they do have way more value than anybody
Speaker 2: in the league when it comes to brand and honestly success.
Speaker 2: They've won national championships in the last decade or so.
Speaker 2: So I doubt it happens because I don't think Phillips
Speaker 2: is a kind of guy that would ever do that.
Speaker 2: But I think that is actually a realistic scenario that
Speaker 2: could sort of change how people view the future of
Speaker 2: this league. And louisvill wouldn't be entitled to the same
Speaker 2: amount that Florida State, Clemson and maybe you know, North Carolina.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know how would break down.
Speaker 2: But let's be real, even during the bad years of Saderfield,
Speaker 2: Louisville was still the third most watched college football program
Speaker 2: in the league, and that matters. All right, quick break,
Speaker 2: We'll come back on the other side and see if
Speaker 2: we can chat with our friend doctor McElroy right here
Speaker 2: in Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 3: That's right, thirty.
Speaker 2: Minutes left or so here before we get out of
Speaker 2: here for the weekend, and we now bring him in.
Speaker 2: He is doctor Eric McElroy from Pro Reap Physical Therapy.
Speaker 2: Eric is somebody who is you know, former athlete yourself
Speaker 2: obviously still very much involved in the sports world with
Speaker 2: sports medicine.
Speaker 3: Physical therapy. Are you a big Olympics guy?
Speaker 2: Like, is it something you really try to set aside
Speaker 2: time to get into it, because I've admitted throughout the
Speaker 2: week it's one of those things that I I mean,
Speaker 2: if I really wanted to get into it, I would,
Speaker 2: but I just it's never really took off from me,
Speaker 2: and I feel like a bad sports fan, a bad
Speaker 2: American in fact, Well, I.
Speaker 6: Don't think you're a bad sports fan.
Speaker 7: These are sports that you know, it's just hard to follow, right,
Speaker 7: They're not mainstream, they're not out there all the time.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of competition obviously in the States where
Speaker 7: we live.
Speaker 6: So but to answer your question, I absolutely love the Olympics.
Speaker 7: But as you know from all the years of us
Speaker 7: doing this, I love all sports.
Speaker 6: I can watch anything. I just love human performance.
Speaker 7: It's incredible to me what these athletes can do with
Speaker 7: their bodies, and whether the Olympics or any sport. But yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm very big into the Olympics, and I just appreciate
Speaker 7: the pressure the most. I think that it's you know,
Speaker 7: if I'm in football and I tweet my hamstring, I
Speaker 7: missed a game. I got another game too, you know,
Speaker 7: two or three weeks down the road. If I'm a
Speaker 7: hundred meter track athlete that's had a chance to go
Speaker 7: to the Olympics, I tweak my hamskirt, hamstring. I got
Speaker 7: four years before I can do it again if I
Speaker 7: get there.
Speaker 6: And I just think the pressure is unbelievable.
Speaker 7: And I just think that, you know, watching these athletes
Speaker 7: you have to.
Speaker 2: Do yeah, And I think, you know, at times when
Speaker 2: it comes to professional sports, I mean I think we
Speaker 2: deep down, if we thought about it, we would say, yeah,
Speaker 2: these guys that we watch in the NFL, who watch
Speaker 2: in the NBA, they probably really work hard and and
Speaker 2: really put a lot into making sure their bodies are
Speaker 2: you know, doing what they're doing what they can to
Speaker 2: prevent injury as best as possible and taking care of
Speaker 2: themselves and whatnot. But I think there's you know, when
Speaker 2: you're just sitting at home watching on the couch, you
Speaker 2: sometimes just think, like, that guy is so talented. He
Speaker 2: just showed up to work and and and you know,
Speaker 2: looked like one of the best athletes on the planet.
Speaker 2: I think the Olympics, at least for me, it's it's
Speaker 2: it's really been an eye opener as far as man.
Speaker 2: It's it's one thing to have the ability and the
Speaker 2: skill and what not to be an Olympic athlete representing
Speaker 2: your country, but man, just the the daily routine as
Speaker 2: far as taking care of your body to be able
Speaker 2: to Like the reason I'm bringing up is because I
Speaker 2: feel like swimmers, divers, like I'm sure every professional app
Speaker 2: every Olympic athlete has a very intense training regimen. They
Speaker 2: got to make you know, they got to be always
Speaker 2: be making sure they're taking care of themselves. But when
Speaker 2: I hear stories of swimmers and divers and sort of
Speaker 2: what their day looks like, you know, year round, almost
Speaker 2: like it's insane. I guess I'm asking, you know, are
Speaker 2: there some sports to where like people wouldn't believe like
Speaker 2: what goes into even being in that position outside of
Speaker 2: just you know, watching somebody out there performing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, ye, I don't know if I can think of
Speaker 7: a sport in particular. I mean, you named any of
Speaker 7: these sports. I mean, I think table tennis. I mean
Speaker 7: I think you know, it was funny I had a
Speaker 7: patient local maybe you know, three or four years ago,
Speaker 7: maybe longer. He's he was able to go to the
Speaker 7: Olympic Trials and table tennis.
Speaker 6: And at the time he was now he's in his.
Speaker 7: You know, late forties, early fifties maybe, but just hearing
Speaker 7: him talk about everything he had to do and something
Speaker 7: that we play in our garage or basement to compete
Speaker 7: at the level he needed to table tennis and to
Speaker 7: obviously he didn't make it through the Olympics, but then
Speaker 7: to compare that to some of these countries that are
Speaker 7: just extremely good and something like that, and what they
Speaker 7: can do. You know, we think we're we're you know,
Speaker 7: good with table tennis and how we spin a ball
Speaker 7: on occasion.
Speaker 6: I mean, stuff that they do is just insane.
Speaker 7: And it's just the amount of work and effort and
Speaker 7: time it takes for something that we think of as
Speaker 7: you know, something we would do with our buddies.
Speaker 6: It's incredible.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 7: And and those are sports that I think that we
Speaker 7: kind of joke about. And it's funny because it's not
Speaker 7: you know, the mainstream track and field, you know, swimming, gymnastics,
Speaker 7: those things that we we you know, really appreciate the
Speaker 7: athleticism of these athletes, but you know it's all these
Speaker 7: other sports that we kind of take for granted, and
Speaker 7: then you put it in perspectives compared to like a
Speaker 7: normal quote unquote amateur, and it's like totally count and
Speaker 7: they have to work really hard.
Speaker 6: They have injuries, and they have issues and.
Speaker 7: Have to train, and they have to work on endurance
Speaker 7: and on of coordination and things that we take for
Speaker 7: granted we don't think about it. It goes into making them,
Speaker 7: you know, get.
Speaker 6: To the level that they could go of gold medal.
Speaker 7: So, you know, I still think when you would also
Speaker 7: appreciate is when you hear these athletes talk about, you know,
Speaker 7: what it means to them to win a gold medal.
Speaker 6: I mean, you have NBA players.
Speaker 7: Who've won NBA championships and they still think about there's
Speaker 7: something to be said about showing you're the best in
Speaker 7: the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean it's so and it's also something
Speaker 2: that I would imagine can take you back to you know,
Speaker 2: there are there are there are athletes representing their country
Speaker 2: and the Olympic Games competing in a sport that you
Speaker 2: know is not mainstream. But even the guys that are,
Speaker 2: you know, the NBA players, I'm sure there's something about
Speaker 2: this to where, you know, it takes them back to
Speaker 2: before they ever were paid to play the game, before
Speaker 2: they ever became super famous that I find. You know,
Speaker 2: that that sounds corny, but that's something I kind of
Speaker 2: think about when I see all these guys, the best
Speaker 2: players in the world out there playing for you know,
Speaker 2: because they want to represent their country and they want
Speaker 2: to have that experience. But also, you know, these other sports,
Speaker 2: the ones that don't get as much attention, Like there
Speaker 2: are people who put so much time, effort, work into
Speaker 2: it and dedicate their entire life, and you know they're
Speaker 2: not doing it for fame and attention because that's not
Speaker 2: that's not something that comes with most of these sports
Speaker 2: that aren't you know, in the mainstream. And again I'm
Speaker 2: getting a little corny here, but like there's something to
Speaker 2: be said about like and again I'm sure there's professional
Speaker 2: athletes in the NFL, NBA, major League Baseball that you
Speaker 2: know didn't set out to do it because they wanted
Speaker 2: to be famous and be on TV. But you know,
Speaker 2: now that they have it, I'm sure they appreciate it
Speaker 2: and do enjoy that aspect of it. But you know
Speaker 2: the others man, they're they're putting as much work in,
Speaker 2: maybe more, and they know deep down, even if they
Speaker 2: are gold medal winners, they're gonna get you know, attention,
Speaker 2: They're gonna get notoriety, They're gonna be compensated. But you
Speaker 2: know that isn't the reason they got into it, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Oh absolutely, And I give you a local example.
Speaker 7: You know, Louisville as one of the most and you
Speaker 7: know most most local Louisville fans bringing it back to here,
Speaker 7: you know know that that the University of louisll has
Speaker 7: one of the best swim programs in the country and
Speaker 7: they've produced multiple multiple Olympians and not just from the
Speaker 7: United States, but from you know, internationally, and it's and
Speaker 7: we've been very fortunate to work with some and one
Speaker 7: in particular who wasn't who is an American. Uh, you know,
Speaker 7: she had the world record at the one hundred meters
Speaker 7: fly at one time, and it's like the world record
Speaker 7: that's the best time ever stamped right on in the
Speaker 7: world ever. And she can walk in and out of
Speaker 7: the clinic and people know she's an athlete, but that's it,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. Whereas we've had some other
Speaker 7: athletes in there, they're a little bit more and you know,
Speaker 7: a little bigger exposure sports that are more.
Speaker 6: Mainstream, and they may not even be at the highest level,
Speaker 6: but they're all like, oh, that's so, and.
Speaker 7: So, that's so and so, you know, and it's just incredible,
Speaker 7: like you said, the work that she put in to that. Yeah,
Speaker 7: and it's just like insane, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 7: So you know, and it's and like you said, it's.
Speaker 6: Not because she wanted notoriety at all. It's because this
Speaker 6: is these.
Speaker 4: Are ambitions and goals and yet she's made her successful
Speaker 4: and she's done well, but it's not to the level
Speaker 4: like you and I I would think of as somebody
Speaker 4: who's putting that same amount of work and effort into
Speaker 4: a sport where obviously the monetary gain is substantially different.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: And that's a great example, because you know, her having
Speaker 2: that world record and being you know, that good at
Speaker 2: her craft, what she does in her sport is something
Speaker 2: that you know, guys who've made millions of millions of
Speaker 2: dollars in one championships in the NBA, in the NFL,
Speaker 2: like they can't claim that they have that kind of
Speaker 2: record that they held for a while. So and again,
Speaker 2: you're right, you know, those are the kind of athletes
Speaker 2: that you know, I'm sure they do get some attention
Speaker 2: and it's it's appreciated and whatnot, but you know, knowing
Speaker 2: that's not the root of of what goes into it.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure there's plenty of others that are at
Speaker 2: the elite level of the major sports to get attention
Speaker 2: that that was never the root of why they wanted
Speaker 2: to do it. But you know, there's no denying these
Speaker 2: are athletes that are doing it all because man, their competitors,
Speaker 2: they're not driven.
Speaker 3: By the outside stuff.
Speaker 2: They know, they're probably very competitive within themselves too, right,
Speaker 2: Like you got to think, like, hey, even if I
Speaker 2: do get this accomplishment, that's not going to be what
Speaker 2: maybe another sport would would have. So yeah, I I
Speaker 2: think that's something even me. I'm not an athlete myself
Speaker 2: to this day, but you know, I find motivation from
Speaker 2: others that are motivated and driven to accomplish big things,
Speaker 2: and there's no doubt Kelsey was. Certainly, it's certainly somebody that.
Speaker 3: Is a good example of that. All Right.
Speaker 2: One of the athletes here as well that's well known
Speaker 2: across the globe is Lebron James and he's gonna be
Speaker 2: forty years old in December, Eric, and I think seeing
Speaker 2: him still playing at this level, it's not really a
Speaker 2: surprise because he's never slowed down. But in your profession,
Speaker 2: I mean, is he going to be a case study
Speaker 2: as far as somebody that you know, not only is
Speaker 2: one of the most athletic, god gifted talented people ever,
Speaker 2: but like the way his body has held up, the
Speaker 2: way he has invested so much money in taking care
Speaker 2: of his body, I mean, you could make the case
Speaker 2: right now he's still the best basketball player on the
Speaker 2: planet and at thirty nine years old, that is far
Speaker 2: from usual.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would argue that he is probably physically one
Speaker 7: of the most gifted.
Speaker 3: Totally agree, if.
Speaker 6: Not the gifted.
Speaker 7: I mean it's just, you know, not saying the best
Speaker 7: basketball player per se, but the best, the most gifted
Speaker 7: athlete hands down, And I think he could have played
Speaker 7: in the NFL. I mean, there's very few things that
Speaker 7: he couldn't have done. I'm convinced, and I think he is.
Speaker 6: A case study. I think the ability for him to
Speaker 6: be able to.
Speaker 7: Minimize the amount of injuries considering that he you know,
Speaker 7: the mount he's played and the level he's played for
Speaker 7: and the amount of games he's played.
Speaker 6: You know, not that college is you know, not a grind.
Speaker 6: But you know, he came in obviously right out of
Speaker 6: the gates and has been an NBA for a long time.
Speaker 7: And to be able to, like you said, still be
Speaker 7: one of the top players and not be you know,
Speaker 7: have significant injuries that have really held him out for
Speaker 7: too long of a period of time, it's incredible.
Speaker 6: Uh. And I just think that, you know, some of
Speaker 6: it is obviously his ability to take care of himself.
Speaker 6: I think that's it. And it's all of us just
Speaker 6: his gifts.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I think that you.
Speaker 6: Know, there's just certain people.
Speaker 7: It's survival, the fittest, it's it's the you know, he's
Speaker 7: he's a freak.
Speaker 6: He's an outlier.
Speaker 7: You know, he's not going to be some you know,
Speaker 7: so he's not going to be the.
Speaker 6: Norm or the mean. So and you just got to
Speaker 6: appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Lebron is somebody that you know, I
Speaker 2: at times forget that he's the age that he is
Speaker 2: and he's not an old man. But I mean there
Speaker 2: are dudes who, you know, father time will get him
Speaker 2: at thirty three, thirty two, and it's just it's not
Speaker 2: that uncommon. And he has maintained I mean just I mean,
Speaker 2: being again an athletic freak, and I think you know,
Speaker 2: he's I would love to hear maybe it's out there
Speaker 2: and I just haven't haven't you know, heard about his story,
Speaker 2: but you know, this is a guy that really has
Speaker 2: been fortunate to never have any real big injury that
Speaker 2: he had to have a major comeback from. But there's
Speaker 2: clearly always been a level of, hey, I gotta I
Speaker 2: gotta take care of them. I got to not only
Speaker 2: take care of my boy and be mindful of everything.
Speaker 2: I also need to continue to educate myself on things
Speaker 2: I could do to make sure that if there's something,
Speaker 2: because again he's gonna have resources that nobody else would have.
Speaker 2: He's Lebron James, and you know, I just I would
Speaker 2: love to know where he got that from, because I
Speaker 2: think some people learn the hard way, not that they've
Speaker 2: done anything wrong, but they realized, oh wow, you know,
Speaker 2: I never I thought I was invincible, And you know,
Speaker 2: maybe he is that because he's so gifted. But yeah,
Speaker 2: Lebron is uh, he's one of one, and I'd look
Speaker 2: forward to seeing him and the rest of the team
Speaker 2: USA and and hopefully they can. I don't see a
Speaker 2: scenario they don't bring back the gold, but you know,
Speaker 2: well we'll see, we'll see what happens. But Eric, I
Speaker 2: appreciate you just always making time for us. Enjoy the
Speaker 2: rest of your Friday, have a great weekend, and we
Speaker 2: will talk soon.
Speaker 3: My friend.
Speaker 6: That sounds good, Nick, I have a going man.
Speaker 2: Take care of that's doctor Eric McElroy. PROTI of physical there.
Speaker 2: But we always enjoy the conversation. Good stuff there. All right,
Speaker 2: we'll come back on the other side, wrap this thing
Speaker 2: up and get out of here for the weekend.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna get out of here for a whole week.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: It is coffee and Company fuel Bute Thornton's. And we
Speaker 2: only have a few minutes left before we get out
Speaker 2: of here for the weekend. And and I'm out here
Speaker 2: for a week. You got a big week planged John.
Speaker 5: And I'm going down to or I should say, up
Speaker 5: to Patoco Lake with my family time this summer. So
Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to that. Haven't been out on the
Speaker 5: boat in a while and it should be a good
Speaker 5: weekend for nice. Patoco Lake is really, really nice. I
Speaker 5: used to go there a lot as a kid with
Speaker 5: my stepmother's family. But yeah, it's a nice place. Is
Speaker 5: it gonna be hot as can beed?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 5: And I think the high tomorrow is ninety and I
Speaker 5: do think there's not really much of a chance of rain,
Speaker 5: but hopefully the humidity's pretty low. But you know what, regardless,
Speaker 5: there's always the water if you need to cool off.
Speaker 5: But I'm not the kind of guy who I don't
Speaker 5: really like being in the water the way that I
Speaker 5: used to. I like to just chill in the boat,
Speaker 5: have a huge drinks, not even really alcoholic beverages, but
Speaker 5: just like some gatorades or whatever, and you know, talking
Speaker 5: with people.
Speaker 3: That's what I like to do.
Speaker 2: I have become like I've never been a big guy.
Speaker 2: I've never been a big water guy when it comes
Speaker 2: to a lake or I like getting in the ocean,
Speaker 2: but you know, it's not like I you know, obsessed
Speaker 2: with or anything. But even now, like when I go
Speaker 2: to a pool, I find myself just you know, like
Speaker 2: if I can survive without getting in you know where
Speaker 2: I'm not burning alive, I'll do that. And I'm not
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not big on the water myself, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I uh, I'll tell you what. The the lake scene
Speaker 2: is always something that I've envied people who, you know,
Speaker 2: that's a big part of their like their life in
Speaker 2: summers and springs, you know, they they get out for
Speaker 2: the weekend, head.
Speaker 3: To the lake.
Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, I'm also scared of the water too,
Speaker 2: which is yeah, I mean not really the lake, but
Speaker 2: like if I'm out in the ocean somewhere.
Speaker 3: Like That's why I've never gone on a cruise. Have
Speaker 3: you ever gone on a cruise? I haven't.
Speaker 5: I would be willing to, depending on the type of cruise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like I would love to.
Speaker 5: Go on a rock and roll cruise. There's a lot
Speaker 5: of those out there in the relays. I think those
Speaker 5: would be fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's all kinds of niche cruises, like you know,
Speaker 2: like for certain interests, which I think is totally cool,
Speaker 2: like the I I wish I was not afraid, and
Speaker 2: I think I would be fired if I went on
Speaker 2: it and I would get over it. Maybe it would
Speaker 2: be something, you know, fun for me to conquer my fear.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: But if I'm on if I'm on water and I
Speaker 2: can't see land, I'm I have a panic attack, which
Speaker 2: hasn't happened often, but it has happened. Like we went
Speaker 2: to Cabo last year, we did venture out far enough
Speaker 2: to where you started to lose distance of anything around you,
Speaker 2: and I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't like that that.
Speaker 5: If there's enough things to distract me from thinking about that,
Speaker 5: hopefully I would be fine. But again I've never tried it,
Speaker 5: so I guess I would have to do it to
Speaker 5: find out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think even like last year when we went
Speaker 2: to Destin, which is where we're going next week, my
Speaker 2: wife was trying to do some kind of like dolphin
Speaker 2: cruise and that wouldn't take us, you know, for the
Speaker 2: kids and whatnot, but that wouldn't take us far enough
Speaker 2: to wear out. But I would still just be a
Speaker 2: nervous wreck. I'm I'm I'm a weirdo. I am all
Speaker 2: right again. You guys are gonna be a good company
Speaker 2: next week with me out and I'll return the following week,
Speaker 2: and you know, maybe i'll pop on pop on Twitter, Facebook,
Speaker 2: YouTube live and do something to react to the to
Speaker 2: the games next week. Maybe I won't. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: I'll play by year, but uh, I'm gonna miss out on,
Speaker 2: you know, talking about things that I want to talk about.
Speaker 2: But we'll have the following week and I'm not going
Speaker 2: to let it, you know, impact the vacation that's coming up.
Speaker 2: So everybody have a good weekend and I'll talk to
Speaker 2: you guys on August the fifth,