WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.679 --> 00:00:02.279 Hey, peeps. 2 00:00:02.439 --> 00:00:06.240 I'm Ben and I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked and. 3 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:18.239 Grim, a true crime podcast morning The following podcast material audience, listen. 4 00:00:37.359 --> 00:00:40.200 Do you like that the peeps, hey peeps, hey peeps 5 00:00:41.880 --> 00:00:45.840 throwing it to our our blooper that was accidentally left 6 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:47.079 in there on last episode? 7 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:51.439 Accidentally? How awkward? You don't even know when I texted you. 8 00:00:51.520 --> 00:00:53.399 Well because you listened to the episode before me. And 9 00:00:53.439 --> 00:00:56.920 I'm madly like editing these sometimes so fast to try 10 00:00:56.960 --> 00:00:59.439 and get them up there that I miss things. But 11 00:00:59.600 --> 00:01:02.119 like we're we're trying to be authentic, We're trying to 12 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:05.400 be entertaining and not try too hard but still want it. 13 00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:07.719 We're trying. So it's this big mix of like we're 14 00:01:07.719 --> 00:01:10.959 always awkwardly like what should we say at the beginning? 15 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:13.719 Should start? And then you judge how I usually start it? 16 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:16.480 Hey, Hey, if you listen back to it, I was like, no, like, 17 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:17.599 it's cool you say peeps. 18 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:18.359 I don't judge. 19 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:21.599 I wasn't judgy. I was just questioning, making sure it 20 00:01:21.680 --> 00:01:23.799 was okay and that we were good. 21 00:01:24.040 --> 00:01:26.079 But honestly, if I were like to walk up to 22 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:28.439 a group of people, I'd probably say, hey, peeps. 23 00:01:28.480 --> 00:01:30.760 I don't know if I've ever heard you say hey peeps. 24 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:32.159 Okay, I feel like I would. 25 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:34.200 I don't think i've ever heard you say that word 26 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:34.760 in your life. 27 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:36.879 Well, what do you want me to every episode be like. 28 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:41.120 Hey, you'd be like suck dog? Hey dudes, Hey dudes, 29 00:01:41.359 --> 00:01:41.879 you've said that. 30 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:44.280 I would say that, But then I feel like that's 31 00:01:44.319 --> 00:01:44.719 too much. 32 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:47.480 So what you actually say in the real world is 33 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:50.000 too much. But what you make up is just perfect. 34 00:01:50.239 --> 00:01:52.319 Yeah, got it. That's how I feel. 35 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:55.319 That's how you roll. Well, how you roll is also 36 00:01:56.200 --> 00:01:59.760 talking to a local artist about getting that stuff done 37 00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:01.239 for our giveaway coming up. 38 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:04.319 Yes, I think you'll be soon. They're in the works. 39 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:07.879 They're like being made right now, right, Yeah, because you've 40 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:09.680 been talking to her about it. Should we tell them 41 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:13.240 who or what it is that's going on? Should we 42 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:14.560 give them a little bit of a snippet? 43 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:17.599 I don't know. It's so freaking cool that we're actually 44 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:19.240 probably going to keep to ourselves. 45 00:02:19.479 --> 00:02:21.159 Yeah, we're definitely going to be keeping a couple of 46 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:23.560 them for I feel like that's enough. 47 00:02:24.639 --> 00:02:26.840 Oh, you just dropped a real bomb. 48 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:28.960 I thought you didn't hear that, but I did. 49 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:32.319 You gave me a side either, So yeah, we're. 50 00:02:32.199 --> 00:02:34.560 Going to keep a couple for ourselves. If you didn't 51 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:35.919 hear what I said, you might need to go back. 52 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:38.599 It's gonna be really cool though, Like, Okay, I've actually 53 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:40.360 told a couple of people, Oh you have. 54 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:43.000 Yeah, well thanks for telling me that I could tell people. 55 00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:45.280 I think I told one or two. That's only a couple, 56 00:02:45.719 --> 00:02:47.159 and they thought it was super cool. 57 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:49.240 Well I think it's pretty cool. 58 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:51.759 Yeah, So hopefully we'll be able to just like let 59 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:56.240 everyone know soon enough. So that's not soon enough, maybe 60 00:02:56.400 --> 00:03:00.360 next episode, maybe maybe can This is super exciting what 61 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:02.800 you got jury summon I. 62 00:03:02.879 --> 00:03:06.599 Did actually because I was not excited at first. I'm like, oh, 63 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:08.599 I don't want to like go to court for someone's 64 00:03:08.639 --> 00:03:12.879 traffic ticket. But I was just thinking there actually was 65 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:15.680 a homicide in town just like a week or two ago, 66 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:19.520 so this could be for an actual cool case. 67 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:21.840 Well, I I guess I had a photo shoot that 68 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:24.800 day and they had to postpone, so I bet I 69 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:26.840 bet you there's lots of people going out to a lot, 70 00:03:26.879 --> 00:03:29.159 so it could be a big one. But I'm so 71 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:31.840 jelly because I got summoned earlier this year and I 72 00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:32.840 had to turn it down. 73 00:03:33.319 --> 00:03:35.199 Yeah, that one probably would have been like a traffic 74 00:03:35.240 --> 00:03:36.919 far And I don't know. 75 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:38.680 I was thinking it's gonna be super cool because I 76 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:40.800 actually think it'd be awesome to go on jury summon's 77 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:43.080 butt or beat on injury. But it would have to 78 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:46.840 be like an exciting like someone got murdered real bad. 79 00:03:48.319 --> 00:03:50.599 That has the potential to go on a long time though. 80 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:53.479 Too, it can, but it would be like very interesting. 81 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:55.759 It would actually probably be a little boring, not gonna lie. 82 00:03:55.840 --> 00:03:58.319 Yeah, well we'll see. I'm gonna I'm gonna hum it 83 00:03:58.360 --> 00:04:01.919 over and make sure that I can with work, you know, 84 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:03.319 that sort of thing, because I don't think I get 85 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:05.960 paid for the jury duty with my work, so I 86 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:07.080 know you gotta figure that out. 87 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:09.199 That sucks. But I don't think that's an excuse you 88 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:09.719 can use. 89 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:11.879 Well, I don't know. 90 00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:12.560 I don't know. 91 00:04:12.639 --> 00:04:15.840 Actually, I don't think they can make you if you 92 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:17.439 like need the money. 93 00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:19.480 Yeah, they can't put you in like hardship. 94 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:23.079 Yeah, and all I have to do is say, like, no, sir, 95 00:04:23.399 --> 00:04:28.040 I'm gonna be po Otherwise he's the jobbies only clothes. 96 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:29.680 This is the mark of a house self. 97 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:32.879 I bet you they would actually be Okay with that excuse, 98 00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:34.879 there probably got one. You got one. 99 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:37.120 I think I want to do it, though I know 100 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:37.800 I think you should. 101 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:39.000 I opened super cool. 102 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:41.600 We'll see, we'll find out. I'll keep you guys in 103 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:42.000 the loop. 104 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:45.759 Okay, So I got a short but sweet case for 105 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:46.480 you today. 106 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:48.120 Sweet love it. 107 00:04:48.120 --> 00:04:50.480 It's not it's not very sweet though. Oh it's actually 108 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:51.120 really shitty. 109 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:54.560 It's bitter, the bitter end of the bitter sweet. 110 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:55.480 I don't know. 111 00:04:55.680 --> 00:04:56.600 Just shit, it's just. 112 00:04:56.560 --> 00:04:59.839 Shit, It's just shit. Okay, Yes, we dropped a real 113 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:03.600 ba last time last episode. The case is on Russell 114 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:07.120 Maurice Johnson, which I said is also known as the 115 00:05:07.160 --> 00:05:09.120 Bedroom Strangler. 116 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:12.519 I forgot all about that up until this exact moment 117 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:14.519 when you said the bedroom Strangler. Is like, oh, right, 118 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:15.560 that's what you said. 119 00:05:15.639 --> 00:05:17.360 That name alone is terrifying. 120 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:18.120 Yeah it is. 121 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:20.920 So who is Russell Sosse? 122 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:22.759 That's her brother in law, right Russell? 123 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:25.079 No, thank god, this is not our different Russell. 124 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:25.720 Different Russell. 125 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:28.759 So he was born in nineteen forty seven, and he 126 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:33.720 is a serial killer, Oh and a rapist. Just throwing 127 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:34.839 those right out there. 128 00:05:34.680 --> 00:05:37.800 For ye, that's not something you want to see on 129 00:05:37.839 --> 00:05:39.240 someone's Resme and a job interview. 130 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:43.720 Russell suffered from mental health issues beginning at a very 131 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:47.319 young age. His family actually had a history of mental illness. 132 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:50.560 He also experienced a lot of trauma as a child, 133 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:54.920 including being a victim of sexual abuse himself when he 134 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:56.360 was fourteen years old. 135 00:05:56.600 --> 00:05:58.399 Dang, that's not cool. 136 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:00.800 Do you think that's an excuse for his actions? Though? 137 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:03.160 No, definitely not. 138 00:06:03.480 --> 00:06:05.439 I know, no, no, I mean, like. 139 00:06:05.399 --> 00:06:07.920 That whole situation, like anyone is a victim of sexual 140 00:06:07.920 --> 00:06:09.959 abuse or abuse or anything like that. That's just straight 141 00:06:10.040 --> 00:06:12.160 up not cool. It's not but it doesn't mean you 142 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:14.319 can go do it to someone else. Two wrongs don't 143 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:15.040 make it right. 144 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:18.959 And it's so interesting now lefts do make it right. Sorry, 145 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:21.839 it's interesting to me though, because you hear what that 146 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:26.279 often that sex offenders or whatever were abused themselves as 147 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:28.480 a child, and so you feel like that you think 148 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:30.240 they would never do that to someone else, but it 149 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:33.000 does happen. So it's just it's interesting to me. 150 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:35.240 I don't know, yeah, I don't know why. I can 151 00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:37.680 only imagine what's going on in someone's head like that, 152 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:40.680 Like it's they're only perpetuating the problem, They're causing someone 153 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:44.000 else to go through what they went through, but maybe 154 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:47.120 you think that like it because you're so impressionable when 155 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:49.519 you're young. Maybe it like left that impression on you 156 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:52.879 where it's like you think it's okay, or maybe you 157 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:56.920 feel like that's like maybe you liked it, or you're 158 00:06:57.000 --> 00:06:58.959 supposed to like it, like you were told, like as 159 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:01.120 when you were being abused, like oh, like shut up, 160 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:04.240 you like it. It's it's good, right, So maybe there's 161 00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:06.279 something in the back of your mind being like, well, no, 162 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:08.519 I should like it. This is what I should be 163 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:11.279 doing because that's what you're just. 164 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:13.639 Creates them to be like some sort of psychopath to 165 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:16.439 some because I know tons it happens, and that they 166 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:19.040 are able to go through day to day life. I mean, 167 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:22.600 I'm sure they're scarred, but like there's a small of 168 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:24.800 them that maybe it just turned them into some sort 169 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:25.319 of psycho. 170 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:27.759 That's kind of what I'm trying to trying to say, 171 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:30.240 Just I'm trying to understand the psychology behind it. See 172 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:32.759 where you're going, Okay, it messed them up so bad 173 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:35.240 that there's this piece of them that thinks. 174 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:38.000 That yeah, maybe that is Hey, I don't know, we 175 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:40.839 have to we have to talk to like a psychologist 176 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:41.279 about this. 177 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:43.319 You're gonna say, we'll have to talk to a rapist 178 00:07:43.319 --> 00:07:43.720 about this. 179 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:50.279 No, I'd rather talk to a psychologist if that's okay. Yeah, 180 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:53.839 oh Man Russell was an automotive clerk by day working 181 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:58.279 at Ford, and a bouncer by night. He also enjoyed 182 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:02.160 weightlifting as a hobby, needed it for his other hobby 183 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:05.240 of being a murderer. And you'll soon find out why 184 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:06.519 dun dun dun. 185 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:09.079 I was thinking, like him being a weightlifter would be 186 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:11.040 good because you know, all the ford's broken down on 187 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:11.439 the side of. 188 00:08:11.439 --> 00:08:13.959 The road and he's going, oh wow, you're going there. 189 00:08:14.040 --> 00:08:16.439 Eh, I'm not that kind of person. I just wanted 190 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:17.600 to make that joke though. 191 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:20.920 You're not that kind of person. So he was described 192 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:24.439 as also being obsessed with cleanliness and was a compulsive 193 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:27.120 hand washer. I'm like, I like him because I'm a 194 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:29.399 little bit of a germophobe. I don't know if people 195 00:08:29.439 --> 00:08:31.519 know that, but like not in a weird way. I 196 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:32.279 don't think, am. 197 00:08:32.120 --> 00:08:37.639 I you you use purel five years ago like people 198 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:39.279 do today during COVID. 199 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.519 Actually, yeah, Like sometimes I'll even wash my hands in 200 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:43.399 like a public bathroom and then like come out and 201 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:43.919 use hands. 202 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:47.679 Annie, What do you mean Sometimes that's like every time. 203 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:52.559 I swear to God I'm not Russell. Oh but yeah, no, 204 00:08:52.639 --> 00:08:54.519 I I think cleanliness is good. 205 00:08:54.879 --> 00:08:57.480 Cleanliness is good, o CD is okay. 206 00:08:57.519 --> 00:09:01.159 I have a bit of OCD with hand cleanliness. So 207 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:03.039 this whole like now that we don't ever have to 208 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:05.240 shake people's hand again, I'm like, actually okay with us. 209 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:06.320 I think a lot of people are. 210 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:08.480 Yeah, that's like a thing that can just go away. 211 00:09:08.600 --> 00:09:11.559 Yeah, people in general, Earth can go away. 212 00:09:12.840 --> 00:09:16.120 He began attacking and raping women in as early as 213 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:20.399 nineteen sixty nine, but it wasn't until nineteen seventy three 214 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:24.759 that he began also murdering them, and that lasted until 215 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:30.000 nineteen seventy seven. Whoa it lasted so long because the 216 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:34.200 first few murders he committed went undetected and were deemed 217 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:36.080 as non suspicious deaths. 218 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:38.320 Really, how did he get How did he manage that? 219 00:09:38.720 --> 00:09:40.519 You'll find out the first four. 220 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:41.960 The first four. 221 00:09:42.200 --> 00:09:43.039 Yeah, it's real shit. 222 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:44.039 He's got a rap sheet. 223 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:48.759 So what he would do is he would stalk his victims, 224 00:09:49.679 --> 00:09:54.399 break into their homes and watch them sleep for hours 225 00:09:54.440 --> 00:10:00.279 on end hours hours, Oh my gosh, like I mean, 226 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:01.960 I think I go into this more. But there would 227 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:05.039 be even like cases were some got away and they 228 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:08.840 would like, wake up, did this person just like staring 229 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:09.360 at them? 230 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:10.120 The fuck? 231 00:10:10.519 --> 00:10:12.879 I would literally shit my pants. 232 00:10:13.279 --> 00:10:15.639 Could could you imagine if that was me and I 233 00:10:15.679 --> 00:10:18.679 woke up to that? Okay, a little bit of a 234 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:22.600 backstory here. If I get like abruptly woken up and 235 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:26.919 like something's wrong, I have a fight or flight instinct 236 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:29.720 that kicks in and I do not I do not run. 237 00:10:29.840 --> 00:10:32.559 It's not flight, it's a fight instinct. I am ready to. 238 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:34.879 Like you're ready to roll, like you're there. 239 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:37.120 There was a few years ago our alarm went off 240 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:39.240 because Nicole is going to work and she accidentally set 241 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:41.960 up the alarm the front door, so the alarm the 242 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:44.279 house just starts going off. I was on night shift, 243 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:45.879 so I was only sleeping for like three hours at 244 00:10:45.879 --> 00:10:48.559 this point. I came barreling down the stairs and my 245 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:51.960 underwear fists pulled back ready to knock someone out. 246 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:54.440 Like it was quite a sight, Like I wish I 247 00:10:54.440 --> 00:10:56.720 had that on video. I should have reenacted it. 248 00:10:56.919 --> 00:10:59.639 I can still vividly remember that I was like at 249 00:10:59.639 --> 00:11:01.320 the bottom them the stairs, my fist and I was 250 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:03.639 like I was still af asleep and like what is 251 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:05.279 going on? But I was ready to go. 252 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:07.879 See I am not that type of person, I don't think. 253 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:10.159 But I also have absolutely no idea what I would 254 00:11:10.159 --> 00:11:12.360 do if someone was like staring at my face when 255 00:11:12.399 --> 00:11:16.519 I woke up, Like, just think about that, people. 256 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:18.240 What do you do when the dogs do it to you? 257 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:20.279 Oh my gosh. Then I get up and they know 258 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:23.159 they have to go to the bathroom. 259 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:24.799 Just a husky staring in their face inches away. 260 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:27.720 So honestly, like this whole story, I feel like that 261 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:29.240 is the most creepiest shit. 262 00:11:29.320 --> 00:11:31.360 I just can't that's messed up. 263 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:34.320 Okay. So yeah, I have women awake in their beds 264 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:36.159 in the middle of the night to a strange man 265 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:39.919 looking down at them. In some cases, he would slip away, 266 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:43.799 leaving them terrified and wondering how he got past their 267 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:45.200 locked doors. 268 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:49.600 Like oh yeah, no kidding, how do you just slip away? 269 00:11:49.799 --> 00:11:52.399 Like I just imagine him like shit. 270 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:56.039 Well, probably because these people are just like frozen into bed, 271 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:58.799 like what the frig's happening here? And then he just 272 00:11:58.879 --> 00:11:59.279 is like. 273 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:04.320 Peace later, alligator, see you tomorrow night. 274 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:06.960 Okay. So what he would do? So how he would 275 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:10.200 do this is he would scale the outside walls of 276 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:14.960 the apartments and we're like talking numerous stories and enter 277 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:15.960 through the balconies. 278 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:16.799 Oh geez. 279 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:18.840 So there was even one article where he scaled an 280 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:22.399 apartment as high as fifteen, like fifteen floors, he went 281 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:22.919 to the top. 282 00:12:23.559 --> 00:12:25.159 You got to give him credit. He's dedicated. 283 00:12:25.279 --> 00:12:27.840 Well, so he was weightlifter, right, Like, he's really strong. 284 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:30.720 You had to be a strong guy for this. And like, honestly, 285 00:12:30.759 --> 00:12:32.960 if you lived at floor fifteen, would you worry about 286 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:34.120 locking your balcony? No? 287 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:34.679 Probably not? 288 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:37.039 Now would you? No? 289 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:41.440 Probably not. I mean I would like to say yes, 290 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:44.000 but I would probably be the guy laying in bed 291 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:46.200 being like, no, it's fine, I'm not gonna get up, Kate, 292 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:46.759 walk it do. 293 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:48.840 What's funny actually, because the last time I was at 294 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:51.720 a hotel, I was like fourth floor and I had 295 00:12:51.759 --> 00:12:53.639 that moment I was like, oh, like do I really 296 00:12:53.639 --> 00:12:55.799 even not need to like lock the door? And then 297 00:12:55.840 --> 00:12:57.360 in my head I was like, fuck, guy, I do. 298 00:12:57.879 --> 00:13:00.399 But this was even before I researched this would be 299 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:02.120 one of those people locking my balcony door. 300 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:03.320 Are you're certainly going to be now? 301 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:08.279 Oh? I was before Okay, So After watching his victims sleep, 302 00:13:08.679 --> 00:13:12.279 he would then sexually assault them and suffocate them in 303 00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:17.320 no particular order, meaning the sexual assault may have happened 304 00:13:17.320 --> 00:13:18.000 post mortem. 305 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:20.240 Yeah, which is maybe nasty. 306 00:13:21.440 --> 00:13:24.840 That's called okay, what is that called necrofactelia? Yeah, like 307 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:26.000 that's nasty. 308 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:29.720 It's just nasty human behavior, regardless the whole fucking thing. 309 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:32.559 Yeah, I'm sorry, this is like a wild ride here. 310 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:33.919 This dude's trash. 311 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:37.519 Russell murdered a total of seven women and non fatally 312 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:42.039 assaulted eleven other women. The murder the murdering started with 313 00:13:42.200 --> 00:13:47.120 Mary Hicks in London, Ontario, on October nineteenth, nineteen seventy three. 314 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:51.039 Mary was a student, was a student and was only 315 00:13:51.039 --> 00:13:53.440 twenty years old, which is actually really shitty and young 316 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:54.279 and how old. 317 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:56.360 Was Russell at this time? Sorry? 318 00:13:57.279 --> 00:13:58.600 What are you going to make me do? Math? 319 00:13:58.679 --> 00:13:58.879 Here? 320 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:04.399 So he was zorn in nineteen forty seven and that 321 00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:08.879 murder happened in nineteen seventy three. Oh no, she was 322 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:14.080 like thirty ish, so that's like twenty six or so. 323 00:14:14.639 --> 00:14:15.240 I'm not doing it. 324 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:16.080 I don't know. 325 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:17.799 I was only going down a lot. 326 00:14:17.919 --> 00:14:20.159 Now people know how bad a math we are. 327 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:22.120 Do you really want me to mathod ope, because it's 328 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:23.120 just rounding to decades. 329 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:25.399 No, we're talking about poor Mary and how she was 330 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:31.759 twenty years old, and like I mentioned earlier, her death 331 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:36.440 was not suspicious and attributed to an allergic reaction to medication. 332 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:40.240 She was found in a natural sleeping position with no 333 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:47.360 obvious signs of violence to her body. Next was Alice Rawstone, 334 00:14:47.879 --> 00:14:51.559 only a month later, on November thirtieth, nineteen seventy three. 335 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:55.240 She was found in her Gwelf apartment and again had 336 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:58.559 no obvious signs of violence, so her death was attributed 337 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:01.320 to a condition of hardened arteries. 338 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:04.840 I don't even know what I'm assuming she was most 339 00:15:04.879 --> 00:15:07.720 likely suffocated as well, right Like there there's obvious signs 340 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:08.360 of aphyxiation. 341 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:14.240 Yeah, but okay, like we'll get into this more actually 342 00:15:14.240 --> 00:15:17.159 really soon here. But they were all like positioned in bed, 343 00:15:17.320 --> 00:15:20.039 like they just died of natural kind of thing. 344 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:25.080 But it sounds like they at least did somewhat of autopsies. 345 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:28.960 Like not always well they I don't know, Okay, right here, 346 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:30.399 I was just about to say he was really good 347 00:15:30.440 --> 00:15:34.360 at tidying and cleaning the scenes, putting his victims back 348 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:36.440 in bed to make it right again. So he would 349 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:37.960 like tuck them into bed. 350 00:15:38.399 --> 00:15:41.840 Yeah, but if self they're doing autopsies, you'd think they'd 351 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:44.720 be able to find it correct, the correct the cause 352 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:45.720 of But would they. 353 00:15:45.600 --> 00:15:51.919 Be looking at like someone being like losing their airway, 354 00:15:51.960 --> 00:15:52.759 Like I don't know. 355 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:55.720 There's obvious signs of it though, like obvious signs. 356 00:15:56.159 --> 00:15:58.480 Yeah, well they went undetected because. 357 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:01.480 There's like there's some playing blood vessels and stuff on 358 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:04.200 the face and around the mouth. There's gonna be fibers 359 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:06.000 within the airway and in the way. 360 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:09.080 They have known all this in the seventies probably, Hey, 361 00:16:09.240 --> 00:16:12.960 I would assume, so, yeah, it was a while ago, so. 362 00:16:13.360 --> 00:16:16.360 I would assume they're probably not doing autopsies. They're probably 363 00:16:16.360 --> 00:16:18.320 just being like, h she probably just died in her sleep. 364 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:20.039 But how would they know hardening arteries? 365 00:16:20.159 --> 00:16:23.080 I don't know. Well, And to the other one, what 366 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:29.919 was it? It was a medication, right, allergic reaction to medication. 367 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:34.879 See that one though they could attribute that to exphyxiation 368 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:37.639 because I mean's swelling of the throat or something like that. Yeah, 369 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:41.240 so that one there, But hardening arteries, I don't really know. 370 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:43.200 What hardening arteries is. I meant to look up. 371 00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:47.360 That's like a pound of bacon with three eggs and 372 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:49.840 like French toast. 373 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:52.480 With remember that man sandwich you used to make, even 374 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:54.799 made that for her own man, which the man which 375 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:55.799 had I even had that. 376 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:57.360 I think I made you eat it once. 377 00:16:57.799 --> 00:16:58.799 Oh I want to have it again. 378 00:16:58.840 --> 00:17:02.480 It just tastes like Greece literally, Okay. 379 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:06.119 So, like I said, he would clean up the crime 380 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:09.400 scenes and in one thing he I even read and 381 00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:10.839 I don't have this in my notes, but he would 382 00:17:10.920 --> 00:17:13.400 like clean it up and put them back in bed 383 00:17:13.759 --> 00:17:16.000 because he would be worried that they would be mad 384 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:18.240 at him, which. 385 00:17:18.200 --> 00:17:20.039 Is just fucked that's weird. 386 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:22.680 And so this all made the investigators think the deaths 387 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:28.240 were of natural causes or accidents. In one case too, 388 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:32.599 he even like did their dishes for them. What he like, 389 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:34.880 he was a neat freak, right, So he yeah, killed them, 390 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:36.960 put them back in bed, and then went and like 391 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:39.960 cleaned up their whole damn apartment, including doing their damn dishes. 392 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:45.599 That's that's a whole new kind of fucked up. I know, 393 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:48.680 it's like I'm gonna kill you, but I dish. 394 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:50.720 I'm gonna do your dishes because they're bothering me. 395 00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:54.599 Yeah, he missed the spot, so he did. 396 00:17:54.440 --> 00:17:57.920 The same thing with his next two victims. March fourth, 397 00:17:58.119 --> 00:18:03.359 nineteen seventy four. Russell's next victim would be Eleanor Hartwick. 398 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:06.240 She died at her home in London, with the cause 399 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:10.759 of death being reaction to prescription drugs. Russell apparently posed 400 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:13.039 her with a book in her hand to make it 401 00:18:13.079 --> 00:18:15.039