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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice

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mix in some vodka colored a podcast from the Mac

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of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor

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Chrysler Dots jeep Ram. It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for getting your pot on, Thanks for telling

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a friend, and that's how we spread the word about

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the pirate ship. I'm so excited because Mark's here, new gig,

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all excited.

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Speaker 4: I'm very excited.

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Speaker 2: Laura's here.

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Speaker 3: Inner Green did not get to go out yesterday, for

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that was the big Saint Patrick say, celebrations right here.

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Speaker 2: Laura's look good. How's going on over here?

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Speaker 5: Mark's got that new confidence coming with the new job.

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Speaker 4: No, I just said she's looking good. Joel, Joe's my buddy.

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Speaker 5: Oh it's okay.

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Speaker 3: It is a weird time, right because it's hard to say,

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like you don't want to say to somebody, hey, you

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look great.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know if a guy said, girl, a girl

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can see to another girl you look great, or say.

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Speaker 2: To a guy, it feels uncomfortable.

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Speaker 4: But if the guy says it to a girl, yeah,

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it's they're creepy.

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Speaker 3: Well, I remember I was sitting in one of my

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grad classes. Now I'm an elder statesman there, I'm gonna

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be fifty. I'm as old as you, right, I'll be

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fifty five this summer. And most of these kids are young.

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And I look across the table and there's a girl

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and I was like, Wow, she looks really good today.

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And I thought I cannot say that. And I didn't

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mean it in a creepy way. It just kind of

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the thought went in my head and I was like, well,

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he's saying I think you.

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Speaker 5: Can say it as long as you don't say it

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in a creepy.

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Speaker 2: Here's the problem.

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Speaker 4: You can still say it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if if.

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Speaker 4: Doug said told someone they looked they look good, they

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would actually think it's creepy.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe, But that's my point is that I'm old,

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So what is that? You know what I mean, that's

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the problem. And it's true, that's the problem. And so

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I wouldn't want to say that to someone young. If

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I say something to someone who's a little more age equiment,

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hey you look great.

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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I don't think it's bad. I think it's

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okay to be complimentary of someone and there's a difference

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between complimenting them like Laura looks good today, verse like hey,

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what's up, sexy MoMA? You know god baby?

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Speaker 2: Ye do guys say sexy mom to you? I don't

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know because I yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean I could go, hey, hey, looking right and how you?

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Speaker 4: Uh No, I can't good, I'm actually creepy. Well it

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just comes right out.

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Speaker 3: And maybe maybe, but your boyfriend went out with your

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friends the big sing Say celebration and came home with

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all the tea.

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Speaker 5: Oh I was getting. So yesterday I had my oldest

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son had playoff basketball game. Then he was in a play,

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his school play where he had a role. Back to

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his basketball game championship where he won, then back to

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the school play. So it was carding him back and

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forth for nine hours yesterday, and Joe was like, well,

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I'm gonna go out with you. No, he came to

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the he came to the basketball games in the first play,

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but then at like three o'clock he's we're done. I

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don't need to go to the second play. So he

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went out and met up with a bunch of my

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friends and immediately I start getting text messages of one

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person who I said I'm not going to say the name,

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and yeah, oh, him and his girlfriend are fighting and

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blah blah blah. And then he runs into a couple

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of my female friends and two of them are like

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fighting over another guy, and so he's telling me both

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of them and yeah, I got all the gossip. And

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when he got home last night around ten thirty, I'm

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getting ready to go to bed, and he is just

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talking my ear off and he was like, guess what happened?

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And then I had to drive someone this late. And

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then we went to Winfield and so and so didn't

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show up for the one girl that wanted to be there.

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Oh my god, he was a teenage girl last night.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of funny because you know what, as I'm

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hearing you talk, I'm starting to think, like most of

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your friends around your age right in their forties, so

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Speaker 2: To believe over and over.

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Speaker 3: And this kind of plays in even my weekend a

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little bit that through the first half of our life,

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we're winging it, and then you get to somewhere between

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forty and fifty and you start to go, well, a

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lot of this stuff was bullshit, but sometimes we regress.

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Speaker 2: When you hear women fighting over a guy. Yup.

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Speaker 5: I mean that's and this is like f two friends

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of mine. One is thirty six, yeah, currently separated from

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her husband. The other is forty three, also in the

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process of getting a divorce, right, fighting over the same guy.

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Both talking to Joe about it.

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Speaker 4: So the joke is, the joke is is that I

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go I've been I went to a lot of my

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friends first weddings, and when I got my forties and fifties,

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I go to I've been going to their second weddings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, right, So that's what the ages were.

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing that I wonder, because you get divorced,

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and you got divorced for a reason, but primarily there's

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something something was a mess or not not good or whatever,

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and then to try to be jumping back into something,

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you know, is I don't know if it's because of

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the it's familiar, it's what feels right.

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Speaker 2: I want someone that's gonna treat me right.

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Speaker 3: But I would say the better thing to do is

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to just sit and figure out your shit, because you're

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just bringing that same shit to the new.

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Speaker 4: Right meet the new boss, same as Zula bas Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know, am I wrong? No?

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Speaker 5: And I told you as soon as I got here.

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Another one of my friends who's yes later forties, Josh,

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broke up with her boyfriend of two and a half years.

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Speaker 4: And fine, Wow, she is a.

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Speaker 5: Packaged dime like, she's amazing.

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Speaker 4: I would even go in retirement, and so I would

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be I would date her retirement.

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Speaker 5: She is, she's absolutely amazing, and her boyfriend of the

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past two and a half years was nice, but I

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didn't ever feel that it was the right fit for her,

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and so you know, things that you wouldn't say when

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she's happy, and now she's she is the one who

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broke up with him because she's like, I didn't feel

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like our futures were aligned. I'm like, you're right. You

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were way too big of a person for him, even

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though you're so small and petite, like you're loving, you're compassionate,

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like you are outgoing, you have this personality and he

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was never at your level. Well, I actually just texted

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her because I told her.

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Speaker 2: What I told her hold On, I told her I.

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Speaker 5: Was on here, and I just said, when you're ready,

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I want to bring you on the podcast and have

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men send in their bios to date a Webster mom.

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She wrote, Oh my god, how fun.

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Speaker 4: All Right, I send her my resume.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to spill something here that I really have

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no talk about. But we're coming up on the thousandth episode.

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Speaker 2: Oh and I'm.

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Speaker 3: Thinking that we may have to do it out live somewhere.

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Speaker 5: That would be so much fun.

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Speaker 3: And there's a couple of different things that we would

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probably center it around. The music game we play, okay,

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so even the audience could play with us.

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Speaker 2: And but then we could have data hatty, I could

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have data haughty. There's a guy that says he wants.

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Speaker 5: To do uh guess that penis.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: There's a guy who wants to do the uh oh,

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what was the movie with Paul Newman where he was

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in jail on the fifty eggs or something like that. Anyway,

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the fifty egg challenge. He wants to do the one

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hundred deviled egg challenge.

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Speaker 2: Oh a listener with Doug dougle makeum, well, I don't know.

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So I got to figure that out. I could have that.

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Speaker 3: Guy sitting on the side and we give him the

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entire show to consume all the eggs and we can

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talk to him because we figure maybe we'll go fifty

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eggs because there's mayonnaise and shit and paprika. So you

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just do fifty because really, it's a half an egg.

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Is what a deviled egg is. It's a half the egg.

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So it's not the cool Hand Luke challenge. That's what

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it was, Cool Hand Luke movie. So we could do that,

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we could do our trivia game, and we could have

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you know, the meat.

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Speaker 4: A hottie has hot friends. All Laura's friends are hot.

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I swear to god, I felt like I was in

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a freaking Victoria's secret party when we went to our

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house for birthday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have h Yeah, that's true. There's women that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, most of my friends are you know, that active

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state of mind through the gym, you know that I've

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met so Yeah, women who take care of themselves but

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still have fun your friends.

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Speaker 4: You know, I have friends that date your friends. So

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that kind of yeah, that kind of like makes me

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think I have a chance.

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Speaker 5: I was actually out with them the other week.

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Speaker 4: I love him. He's my roommate. Who's that one of

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her friends? Boyfriends I lived with? Really, Yeah, we went

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into each other at a lawer's party.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my one of my closest college friends, Megan has

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been dating his college roommate, right, was of.

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Speaker 4: My college roommate.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we just lived, we worked together.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Chad, and yeah he's great.

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Speaker 2: But it's it's all.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I keep going back to, because, like you're saying,

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you know, people ending relationships and stuff, we follow a

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script in like that in our twenties, right. I knew

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what I wanted to do since I was a kid.

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I wanted to be on the radio. I knew I

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was going to be on the radio. That was the

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end of that was it? That was where I thought

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it would end for me. I really did.

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Speaker 4: Is Is that funny?

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Speaker 2: Well? I mean it.

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Speaker 4: I mean I could.

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Speaker 3: I should talk a little bit more about that whole situation,

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because I didn't for a long time. Uh, And I

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could give the whole reason behind what I did. But

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but the script was there, right, So you I got

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the job. I didn't want to bounce around the country.

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I stayed, you know, in Rochester. I ended up doing

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the mornings and things like that that I wanted to do.

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in town that I wanted to be. I like their

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management better, you know what I mean. I was having

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a lot of fights with management in my stuff, and

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then it uh, would you get married, buy the house,

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you have the kid, you do all this and it's

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almost like there's a script for the first half of

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your life. And then you get to around forty fifty

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and you go, no, no, no, this is all bullshit.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to run this script.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just feeling not totally fulfilled. I mean, I said

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I married the first good guy that I dated because

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I was like, all right, this is what you did.

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He wants to get settled, you know, And I did

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the followed the routine, and then I was like, God,

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I'm so unfulfilled. And I talk about people looking at

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the outside in I was like, it looks like I

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have that white picket fence style life, but I was

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I felt empty inside a lot of the time. I

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loved my kids. My kids definitely helped, but then I

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was like, I was staying for the kids for a while.

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Speaker 4: It's funny because I did the same thing you did. Bill.

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to be in TV deb's but I found out something.

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Everybody laughed at me when I first took this job.

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They're like, oh, my God, he's never going to the

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last of the job. I found out I should have

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been a teacher.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 4: I was actually that was my colleagues to be a teacher.

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And I never knew that until you know, I started

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doing you know, until I started working and doing that,

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you know, and it's like, how my life changes at

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age fifty five? Then it was you know what I mean,

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it's a big change from what it was even when

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I was thirty five, right, So it's like, yeah, in me,

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they mean I never got married. I'm very selfish. I

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don't want to share things, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do. I get it.

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Speaker 4: But when I got engaged this girl, when I was no, no, no, no,

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it's a different girl.

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Speaker 5: Oh go ahead, time how many girls have you or

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how many times have you been engaged?

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Speaker 2: Three? He got engaged this girl was a teacher.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and very ironically, I forgot about that.

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Speaker 3: And he came in and uh, he was you know,

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talked about it on the morning show and he was

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bragging and this and that. So it was like, cool,

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let's see the ring. Let's see the ring. And he

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comes in the ring and it was like a really

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tiny diamond now, Mark was what twenty two twenty one, I.

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Speaker 4: Think twenty four to twenty five years so, yeah, and

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working in a radio station making no money.

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Speaker 3: So we used to go like this, like Mark went

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in to get the diamond out of his eye.

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Speaker 5: Mark.

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Speaker 3: Mark went to one of those bubblegum machines and twisted

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out the thing.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it was, but it was like,

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but I remember where I got it.

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Speaker 3: And then it ended, and none of us were like

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even really surprised. But it is funny that that you

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were following the script, but in.

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Speaker 4: A way, in a way, but it ended because of

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the radio, because we were going out.

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Speaker 1: I was me.

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Speaker 4: I was getting these you know, we were looking up

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with hot girls and shit, and it was like, you know,

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that's why that was me. It was the reason I

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did end it. I never cheated it on her, but

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I wanted to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think like I didn't expect to be

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doing this. I figured I would, you know, just finishing

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radio because I had the number one show at the time.

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I was bringing in the most amount of money in

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terms of endorsements when I was still there, and then

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the unexpected happened, and you know.

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Speaker 2: I was like fuck.

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Speaker 3: And I got to tell you something, man, that was

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maybe one of the hardest times of my life. I mean,

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it fucking dumped me on my head.

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Speaker 4: This is like, what else am I going to do?

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Speaker 2: Well? I didn't know.

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Speaker 3: And at the time, I'm fifty one, and people are like,

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go go go to Chicago, go.

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Speaker 2: Do the radio.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, who's hiring a fifty one year old

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radio personality who's not familiar with your city. I mean, well, yeah,

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a good, good point. So I dumped everything into this.

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But I had no direction, Like I just I had

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no direct I didn't know, like podcast is not exactly

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the same as radio, you know, it's really not. And

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I was doing it like radio. So it's taken like

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this long. And then somehow I fall into this mental

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health thing which I I wind up at. The guy

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who got me into the program was thehead of the program.

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He just had his wife through a fiftieth surprise birthday party.

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And I go over there and actually my brother calls

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me and this is and I and I said, hey, man,

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I'm at a fiftieth surprise birthday party.

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Speaker 2: Goes, what are you doing hanging out with such youngsters?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: Because I'm older, right, and I'm like, fuck you. But

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the thing is like, even there, I'm hearing from some

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of his friends, they're going, man, he loves having you

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in class because you just say it.

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Speaker 2: You're so not a college student. You just say things.

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Speaker 5: You have life experience.

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Speaker 3: I have life experience. So all that stuff has really helped.

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And now there's a direction, right right. I have a

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plan of more what I want to do.

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Speaker 4: But it age fifty five, fifty five, and that's fantastic,

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it is.

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Speaker 3: And that's what I was thinking about with you, like

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you reinvented. Not that the clock's ticking, but you're not

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at a time you know what's right.

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Speaker 4: And it's I mean, when I was working at the

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liquor store, what five best thing that ever happened to

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me was getting robbed? That wasting never happened. It was

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I got out of there and then I went right,

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you know, and I started doing the bus full time.

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So it was that was that was that was the

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best thing. But I don't know, man, I forgot. I

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was going to fucking say help me, Bill, No.

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Speaker 2: You're fine.

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Speaker 5: You're talking about being fifty five, having life experiences, not

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knowing what you're going to do yes jogging anything for.

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Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, I was gonna.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 4: I was given up. I was going to work at

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the liquor store under the table and that was it. Yeah,

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I was giving up at age fifty fifty two.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's it's weird because, like you know, even Laura,

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I don't even know how you started.

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Speaker 2: When did you start your organization business?

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Speaker 5: In twenty thirteen?

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Speaker 2: So while you were still married?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I actually I went to school for journalism. Yeah,

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and I talked to people because when people ask how

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did you get into this, and I tell them what

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I wanted to do. I wanted to go into sports

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documentary work and I wanted to move south and that

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was my plan post college, and then I met my

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ex husband very quickly on. Then I went into doing

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event planning with Nick Entertainment. Then I moved to nonprofit

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event planning and I hated the nonprofit field. You work

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sixty hours a week and get paid thirty five thousand dollars,

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and so I started. I really loved helping people move

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when I bought my home, when my friends were buying

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their homes, I found this creative hobby in helping them

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design their homes and moving them, and I was the

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friend who would be like, can I help you move?

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Can I help them pack your house? Like, let's go

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through it. And then it sort of started as I

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didn't know what to call it back then, so I

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called it a personal assistant for some very wealthy families

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in Pittsford, like managing their homes, doing things like that,

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and then it sort of just grew into organizing. But

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now I'm sort of back into beyond just organizing, doing

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moving management for people and doing a lot of the

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senior downsize And you like that more?

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Speaker 2: Do you wish you had followed that other path?

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Speaker 5: I always will wonder what if, oh, I.

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Speaker 4: Can see that's what I wanted to do during a

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football game.

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Speaker 5: But I wanted to do like more of like an

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in depth documentary work during like into the sports. I

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love sports. I'm such a sports girl, and but I

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love the writing and I loved doing documentary work, and

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you couldn't hire. I did an internship up here and

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I hated it. I did not want to do local news.

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I did not want to write for a local newspaper.

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And I was moving down to Raleigh when I met

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my ex husband and I told him very quickly, like

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if I stay up here, I'm giving up my career

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for you.

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Speaker 2: And so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I got to tell you when a young

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guy hears that it's love, well, like I mean she

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loves me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's really what it is. And then

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it's it again.

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Speaker 3: It's like you're following some script that's out there. I

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guess I worry about this too, because I have sons

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in their mid twenties early to mid twenties, and I do.

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I worry, like are you following a script? And are

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you getting out there? I used to try to push

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them to like take off, go to the mountains and

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be a guide for the summer, or work in a

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national park doing something for a summer. Don't you know,

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see how big this world is and get out there,

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because if you stay and it's.

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Speaker 2: The same thing. It was exactly what my dad got

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thrown out of the seminary.

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Speaker 3: He was in there to be a priest, but he

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had stuck a lit cigarette and the Virgin Mary's fingers

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and invited somebody named Peaches with a really short dressed

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to parents either I don't know, and they just said,

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we don't think this is for you. And my father

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always say it taught him how to really write well

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at the seminary, and he wound up working at a

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bank and they go, you got to go to college.

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You're too smart not to. So he applies. But now

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it's August, so everybody is accepting him for a January

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admissions and just like you, and just like you and

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just like me. It was so a priest came to

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him and goes, if you don't get out of here now,

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you're never going to leave Brooklyn because you'll meet a girl.

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Yeah right, you'll decide to stay, You'll decide to do

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this or whatever. So the only college that accepted him

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for that fall was Saint John Fisher. He had never

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been here, had never been to Rochester, got on a

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plane with a suitcase for a week's worth of clothes,

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and his parents drove up the rest. And that's how

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it happened. That's crazy, and he loved it, right, But

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again it's that same thing. We start to follow the script, Well,

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my parents did it this way, this is how society

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says we do, and then it's somewhere in your midlife

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to go, fuck this, I'm writing the script.

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Speaker 5: I joke that you know I was so not prepared

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to be in a relationship when I started dating Ethan,

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like I being in an actual relationship was the last

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thing that was on my mind. So it progressed quickly too.

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I was twenty two. We got engaged the next bought

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a house together within nine months, then got engaged, then

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got married, and it was just such a blur.

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Speaker 2: Were you married by twenty three years old?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 5: Twenty five? Okay still, but yeah, you know, it just

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was so so quick, and then it was like, wait,

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what the hell did I just do? You know, I

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definitely had regrets right away, like going into getting married

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because I was like, I was young. I did not

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plan had I known that he was going to be

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And I would say this, had I known he was

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going to be who I was marrying, I would have

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gone hog wild a few months before because I was

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not ready to settle down. But he was like the

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first really nice guy that I dated. I diated assholes before.

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Speaker 3: Well, it also feels like the problem sometimes in life is.

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Speaker 2: You you don't.

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Speaker 3: Get the manual or the instructions on how to live

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until you've assembled the furniture wrong, you know what I'm saying,

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Like in your life and now you've got to dismantle

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the furniture, and you've got a meaning. You break up

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with Ethan, and you know now you have two children together,

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and you're trying to balance how that all works out

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and keep things stable and working for them, right, you

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got to keep things good for them, and that's not easy,

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and it's it's like fuck man, and it is weird,

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and some of us, like you and me, it's much later, right,

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it's much later.

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Speaker 2: Because when I when I left.

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Speaker 3: Radio, like, everybody's like, well, why didn't you sue? Why

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didn't you sue? And I said, I did go to sue.

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I met with lawyers. I had people come to me

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and go, you got a lot here, and I met

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they told me what it was going to cost, and

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I'm like, and then they wanted to meet with I'm

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just going to say it because normally I would try

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to dance around it. They wanted to meet with John

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de Tulio because it was it was the accusations.

476
00:23:19,839 --> 00:23:21,039
Speaker 2: At a party at his house.

477
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 3: When they did this investigation as to whether or not

478
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,400
I touched somebody in appropriately at a party, everybody came

479
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:30,079
back saying no.

480
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,319
Speaker 2: The person who was the.

481
00:23:32,319 --> 00:23:35,279
Speaker 3: Accuser said that there was something that happened and then

482
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,680
made it even worse and said he didn't talk to everybody,

483
00:23:37,759 --> 00:23:41,319
and there were people that they then talked to and whatever.

484
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,079
Speaker 4: The accuser had one person that said it happened, right.

485
00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. I really don't know. I have no idea,

486
00:23:47,759 --> 00:23:48,160
but yes.

487
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 3: And then so then I so I leave the lawyers

488
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:59,160
and I call John de Tulio and I say, they

489
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,759
want to meet with you just for coffee, and he's like,

490
00:24:01,799 --> 00:24:04,880
no problem, this is like a Friday. And then I

491
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,559
get a text from him Monday morning saying I'm uncomfortable,

492
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,880
and I said okay, and I said can I call you?

493
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,160
He goes, nope, I'm getting ready for my show. I said, okay,

494
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,440
is there a time that I can talk to you later?

495
00:24:18,599 --> 00:24:21,839
And we talked briefly, and I think it was that

496
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,680
management had come in and go, if they ask you

497
00:24:24,759 --> 00:24:27,559
to talk, do not talk to anybody. And you've got

498
00:24:27,599 --> 00:24:31,240
a job, right, I mean, I can't blame him, but he.

499
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 5: Don't want to get canned.

500
00:24:32,599 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 3: No, exactly right, So I can't. So then I'm sitting

501
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,519
there and I'm like, oh my god. So I go

502
00:24:38,599 --> 00:24:42,240
back and I'm waiting on the front steps the lawyers.

503
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,079
It was just as we're coming out, I'm like, I

504
00:24:45,079 --> 00:24:47,759
guess there's still some COVID protocol, right, because this was

505
00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:51,079
twenty twenty two, and I'm standing on the steps and

506
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,160
this retired Supreme Court judge was going to be part

507
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,039
of this team.

508
00:24:55,759 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 2: And he stands there and he goes.

509
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,519
Speaker 3: Basically said, what a shitty friend John was in so

510
00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:03,599
many words.

511
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I said, and I said to him, don't

512
00:25:06,599 --> 00:25:08,759
do that. I go, don't do that. That's what I

513
00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:10,480
said to the guy. I don't want to talk like that.

514
00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:12,720
So then we get inside and I go, Fellas, I

515
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,559
don't want to do this, and they're like, what do

516
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,400
you mean? And I go, well, first of all, it

517
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,920
was going to be like fifty grand up front and

518
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,519
then you know what I mean, right, because it was

519
00:25:21,559 --> 00:25:23,720
going to be a big thing. And I'm like, I

520
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,799
don't want to do this. And they said, well, what

521
00:25:25,839 --> 00:25:28,000
if we did it, you know, pro bono or whatever,

522
00:25:28,039 --> 00:25:29,240
blah blah blah blah.

523
00:25:29,079 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, I'm like, first of all, I'm

524
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,319
not I don't know. I said, I really am uncomfortable

525
00:25:35,319 --> 00:25:38,160
with this. Because they wanted to hire private investigators that

526
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,480
were going to go talk to these people.

527
00:25:39,519 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I've.

528
00:25:40,759 --> 00:25:43,759
Speaker 3: Already had somebody who was like a brother to me

529
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,880
turn his back. And I don't mean it like as

530
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,960
harshly as that sounds. What I'm saying is I don't

531
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,880
want to become the problem with all these people. Now,

532
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,680
what I kind of did was all my life, since

533
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,599
I was nineteen, all I've done is talking to him.

534
00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:05,799
So and most of my adult life was at in Rochester.

535
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,559
So a lot of these people I have known since

536
00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:10,759
I was twenty two years old. When I was on

537
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:14,079
the radio, I was twenty two and a senior at Fisher, uh,

538
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,240
and I've known them. So I didn't want I didn't

539
00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:20,319
want those friendships to go away. Well guess what those

540
00:26:20,319 --> 00:26:23,160
friendships are fizzle you know, is fizzled. They fizzled, and

541
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,400
that's okay. But the other thing was like I didn't

542
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,519
want to be that guy that like you're avoiding or

543
00:26:29,599 --> 00:26:31,680
ducking you know what I mean, this whole ugly thing

544
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:32,559
that was going to come around.

545
00:26:32,599 --> 00:26:33,799
Speaker 2: And so I just said, you.

546
00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:34,799
Speaker 5: Felt like a black cloud.

547
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I go, fuck it, I'm walking away. And

548
00:26:40,519 --> 00:26:41,400
I didn't know what to do.

549
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 3: So I did this, and you know, now, and now

550
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,720
it's starting to burklet. But it took forever, and in

551
00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:51,480
the meantime, I wound up in this program. And I

552
00:26:51,519 --> 00:26:54,640
always was curious about people. I always liked helping people.

553
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,680
I like thinking more philosophically, honestly I do. That's kind

554
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,559
of my bed anyway, and it just seemed to kind

555
00:27:02,599 --> 00:27:03,960
of find that that path.

556
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,519
Speaker 2: But you know, well, I.

557
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 3: Got to tell you that that that was like there

558
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,440
were times where I couldn't get out of bed after

559
00:27:08,759 --> 00:27:11,720
I thought I was the most fucking pariah person. I'm like,

560
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,440
because I always go I kept I wanted to say

561
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,920
to somebody, look at a pattern of behavior.

562
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: Has anyone ever said I've ever done anything?

563
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say. I was just gonna say

564
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,519
that I've known you for thirty something years, and you wouldn't.

565
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,240
You would totally be in a dickhead and insult somebody, Yes,

566
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,359
but never touch I've never touched anybody I've known you.

567
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,720
I've never seen you do that.

568
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,279
Speaker 5: The accuser did anything ever happen to her? Was there

569
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:45,000
any fallout or turn on her?

570
00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 3: I don't know. I really don't know. I didn't I

571
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,119
didn't really follow up. I just know that, uh, that

572
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,359
station doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, you know, I'd love to

573
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,200
sit here and go, well, see what happened when you

574
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,119
fired me? I felt bad. And here's why I felt bad.

575
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:09,440
I think radio is suffering a problem of local. You know,

576
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,839
if you went back to smaller owned local stuff and

577
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,519
probably more of a spoken word format, you would do well.

578
00:28:16,559 --> 00:28:18,480
So when I didn't give a shit if it was

579
00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:22,160
someone who was accusing me of something or whatever, I

580
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,440
just simply was like, I hate seeing that happen to radio.

581
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,680
But the station did flip because they just think the

582
00:28:28,759 --> 00:28:30,839
ratings were in the toilet and things weren't going well.

583
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,759
Speaker 5: I heard, and I don't know if it was on serious,

584
00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:36,720
if it was local MI car Joe's Car. But there

585
00:28:36,839 --> 00:28:40,160
was a commercial the other day and it was two

586
00:28:40,279 --> 00:28:44,200
radio hosts saying, we will never use AI like you

587
00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:48,440
will never hear an AI segment in everything. And it

588
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,079
was just like, you know, trying to combat what seems

589
00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:54,400
like the inevitable for a lot of stations.

590
00:28:54,559 --> 00:28:54,799
Speaker 4: You know.

591
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: Well, I mean the thing is again, now you got

592
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,680
more choice. You get to choose the music you want

593
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,960
to hear. So I often think like the music format's gone.

594
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,039
The only thing that's I guess good about it is

595
00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:07,200
you get more of the t and those types of

596
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:10,000
Top forty stations and stuff like you know, but the

597
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,559
music stuff. I have a friend who is a great

598
00:29:13,599 --> 00:29:17,640
program director who says to me YouTube music is the greatest.

599
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: Thing in the world. They just he goes.

600
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: They put together a station I couldn't compete against as

601
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,799
a programmer in just terms of what they play. So

602
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,640
I think that you just have more options and stuff,

603
00:29:28,039 --> 00:29:30,880
and this stuff is becoming more on demand, right The

604
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,720
podcast stuff is becoming more on demand, and people like that.

605
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: That thing.

606
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,599
Speaker 4: I don't know, I just it's the way. It's it's

607
00:29:39,759 --> 00:29:42,359
what people are listening to. What's going to happen. No

608
00:29:42,359 --> 00:29:43,359
one's listening to radio.

609
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 5: I listened to Spotify playlists a lot.

610
00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there you go, right, because you like that

611
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,359
and you put it together. It's what you prefer.

612
00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 3: You get to hear your favorite songs, so anytime, you know,

613
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,119
that was the whole idea of Top forty, was when

614
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,240
you would hear your favorite song all the time, Like

615
00:29:57,279 --> 00:29:58,920
you hear this song, like God, they play the shit

616
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,400
out of this. Yeah, they're going to play it because

617
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,880
people are punching in and out and every time they

618
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,200
tune in whoever that is, they want to hear their

619
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,279
favorite song, so they would jam that most popular song

620
00:30:09,319 --> 00:30:11,359
out there all the time. And that's that's sort of

621
00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:13,880
the thing, you know. I don't know if this is

622
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,440
like as we're talking about, like midlife crisis. People always

623
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,119
go to midlife crisis. I just think it's when you

624
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,240
finally kind of stop lying to yourself about things and

625
00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:25,119
you till you're out. My relationship doesn't work, and this

626
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,480
isn't really the career I wanted, and this isn't the

627
00:30:27,599 --> 00:30:29,279
thing I did, and you know all.

628
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 5: That shit they ahead, No, I was just going to

629
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,279
say that. They say that women he hit their peak

630
00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:40,200
creativity age between forty five and fifty five, and that's

631
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,359
why you see a lot of women changing their lives

632
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,640
now or at that age, starting company, starting over, you know,

633
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:51,200
dorning something outside the norm of what at their age.

634
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: Right, the kids are growing at that point, and you've.

635
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 5: Done that, like we're saying right now, Okay, so I'm forty. Yeah,

636
00:30:57,519 --> 00:31:01,079
my weekend was taken up by my kids. But in

637
00:31:01,599 --> 00:31:03,920
five years they'll be less reliable on me and I

638
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,200
will have more time to do something more creative. I've

639
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,440
talked about this being a great creative outlet for me,

640
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,079
like still my writing. But I think that women are

641
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,240
trying to get back into something that excites them again

642
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,880
when they hit that age where they have more free

643
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:20,400
time again.

644
00:31:20,599 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's a really, really insightful thing you

645
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:23,880
said there.

646
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 4: I wanted to see how I would have been in

647
00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:29,400
twenty five I am now at fifty five. I only

648
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,880
have a couple of friends. I have no drama. I

649
00:31:32,079 --> 00:31:34,920
don't hanging out people from Mark That's not as fun though,

650
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,480
you know, a little drama's always God, I have none.

651
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,559
Oh man, I was always in drama.

652
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: Drama. All right, we'll take a moment, don't I don't

653
00:31:46,039 --> 00:31:48,200
know how this will. This will go over, but.

654
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:55,039
Speaker 3: They're declassifying a lot of the aliens alien files. Oh yes,

655
00:31:55,519 --> 00:32:01,359
So what happens if there's not the center of the universe.

656
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:03,480
We'll get to that right after this.

657
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: When it comes to home improvement, you've got choices.

658
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:09,359
Speaker 3: Let's say there's a hole in the bedroom wall and

659
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:14,119
somehow nobody in the house knows how it got there.

660
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,519
Speaker 2: You could fix it.

661
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: I mean, there's always YouTube, right, but you know, three

662
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,119
hours later it's gonna look like a patch job, not

663
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:28,119
even a good patch job. And how about that leak

664
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,839
under the kitchen sink? Yeah, you said you'd get to it,

665
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,079
and that was what two and a half three months ago.

666
00:32:34,599 --> 00:32:38,319
If we're being honest, we all have that list, the

667
00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:41,440
one word deep down you're not totally sure you've got

668
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,359
the skills to pull it off. If it's my list,

669
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,759
I'm calling back of All Trades. Holes in the wall, handled,

670
00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:53,920
leaky sinks done, full kitchen remodel. Yeah they got that too.

671
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,559
And hey, warmer weather's coming. How's that deck looking? Need

672
00:32:58,599 --> 00:33:05,039
it extended? Rebuilt outdoor patio. Don't be a deckhead called

673
00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:08,599
mac of All Trades five eight five to zero two

674
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:12,640
ninety two eighteen. That's five eight five to zero two

675
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,039
ninety two eighteen. And you can see all they do

676
00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:21,680
online at Macofolltrades dot net. They'll handle it so you

677
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:47,119
don't have to because you didn't get to celebrate St

678
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,480
Patrick say the way you wanted to.

679
00:33:48,759 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 5: I know I still am looking for something to do today.

680
00:33:51,839 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: I'll go for a beer with you, I think we should.

681
00:33:53,759 --> 00:33:54,440
I will buy you.

682
00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 5: A you need to buy me a Pianne.

683
00:33:57,279 --> 00:34:01,559
Speaker 2: Here's his ordered a shirt or you got it? No, yeah,

684
00:34:01,599 --> 00:34:04,920
and they just got I have a ton of s yeah.

685
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,039
Speaker 5: No, I have stuff to do later, but we can

686
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:07,839
have a beer.

687
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,599
Speaker 4: I had the day off, and all of a sudden

688
00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:11,519
they text me, like, before I came in here you

689
00:34:11,559 --> 00:34:13,320
want to work, and I'm like, I got nothing going on?

690
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,199
Speaker 5: But at four? At four, it's one o'clock right now, right.

691
00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:20,039
Speaker 4: But we're probably gonna be here too, So that's two

692
00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:20,760
more hours.

693
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: Eat it along, buddy.

694
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 5: How long does it take you to get to half hour? Okay?

695
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,800
So what are you going to do in that hour

696
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:28,519
and a half? Mark?

697
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 4: Go home?

698
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:31,519
Speaker 2: Take a nap?

699
00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:33,079
Speaker 5: Old man.

700
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 2: Uh.

701
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 3: But Laura always celebrated Saint Patrick, saying, you feel like

702
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:39,440
you'd have fomo?

703
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 5: I do.

704
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 6: I mean, seeing everyone's stories last night, it was just

705
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:49,199
that's interesting because I did go and I didn't have

706
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:54,440
that same desire, and I had gone out the night before.

707
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 2: I guess I'm just like, I have a lot of

708
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:02,559
stuff personally, personally personally for me, and then personally more

709
00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:07,480
family stuff that's unfolding that is just wearing on me.

710
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 3: And I think I'm just really tired, and I think

711
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,719
that shit just stretches you out.

712
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,079
Speaker 2: So and I was like, I've been here a million times.

713
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 3: Exactly, I've been here a million times and I'll be back.

714
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,039
Speaker 5: I don't miss the crowds, but I just it's the

715
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:25,760
same thing of me with concerts. Everyone is happy, there's music.

716
00:35:26,119 --> 00:35:28,840
It's just like a joyous thing. And that's what I love.

717
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,039
I mean, last year I went out, I did do Shamrocks,

718
00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:34,920
and I don't think I was even drinking last year.

719
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,760
I was like, oh, we'll go for a little bit.

720
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,119
Speaker 3: But then, see, that's the problem with me is I

721
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:44,840
have noticed, right the things like I will lose myself

722
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,800
somehow in those situations, and I don't know what that is.

723
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:52,360
I don't drink at home. I mean, if I do,

724
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,400
I have one and stop and there's no compelling thing

725
00:35:55,519 --> 00:35:58,800
for me to reach for another, reach for another. I

726
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,960
have gotten drugg at home. But when I'm with somebody

727
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,800
else who's also drinking, and then we're talking and okay.

728
00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 4: Don't drink alone. No, that means you're not in an alcoholic.

729
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,639
Speaker 3: So then but when I go out and I hit

730
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,079
that first, that certain point, and I'm like, this.

731
00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: Is fucking fun.

732
00:36:16,119 --> 00:36:20,639
Speaker 3: I mean I become you know, vacation bills arrived ladies,

733
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:21,639
and I'm.

734
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,079
Speaker 2: Just I'm just having a great time.

735
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,079
Speaker 3: I'm laughing, I'm talking to people, I'm out, I'm being social,

736
00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:29,639
and all I'm doing is avoiding the shit I need

737
00:36:29,679 --> 00:36:31,079
to do, which is terrible.

738
00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:32,679
Speaker 2: And that's where I go. I can't. I can't do

739
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:33,800
that anymore. I just can't.

740
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,599
Speaker 5: I mean, I had a couple of glasses of wine

741
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,920
last night because there was like two hours in between

742
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,559
the basketball finals and the start of the night school

743
00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:47,039
play and the kids had a cast party, so I

744
00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:49,800
invited all the moms over. I was like, we'll come

745
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,679
over to my house. I'll get some sushi and have

746
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,760
some wine. And you know, I had two glasses in between.

747
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,840
But I came home and was ready to go to bed.

748
00:36:58,079 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: That's fine. And the other thing was all.

749
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 3: My buddies who like shots Bob, We're not there, so

750
00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:07,519
that made it better. And those are the guys I

751
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:10,760
like talking shit with and laughing. And you know, one

752
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,440
thing leads to another and the next thing.

753
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: I know a former defense speaking of green people or green?

754
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 4: Why are they green?

755
00:37:20,559 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

756
00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:24,159
Speaker 3: We always had were we not always taught that aliens

757
00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:25,000
from Mars were green?

758
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: I think we were. I don't know. The green Martian,

759
00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:34,519
I don't know. And by the way, et wasn't green,

760
00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:38,000
No like ship brown color.

761
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 4: Well about the aliens on uh in close encounters? They

762
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:42,159
were white? Right?

763
00:37:43,039 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I I don't remember. I don't

764
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,519
think I ever saw close encounters.

765
00:37:46,519 --> 00:37:48,119
Speaker 4: I didn't watch. The whole thing was boring.

766
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 3: A former senior Defense intelligence official, his name is Christopher Mellen,

767
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,320
says the federal government has extensive UFO and by the way,

768
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,960
they want to change.

769
00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:01,519
Speaker 2: That term to UAP.

770
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,119
Speaker 3: So instead of unidentified flying object, they now want to

771
00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:07,880
call it unidentified aerial phenomena.

772
00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:10,119
Speaker 2: Okay, because that's better.

773
00:38:10,559 --> 00:38:13,559
Speaker 3: No one's going to change, now, who's going to change?

774
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,840
So they have satellite images of objects in space that

775
00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:21,639
doesn't resemble anything humans have built. According to Melon, the

776
00:38:21,639 --> 00:38:26,000
government holds a massive archive of photos, radar data, and videos,

777
00:38:26,519 --> 00:38:29,719
including additional footage similar to the famous.

778
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 2: If they say tic TAC, I don't know what that is.

779
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,880
Was there a ship that looked like a tic tac?

780
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 3: Maybe go fast and gimbal UFO videos released by the

781
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,280
military in twenty seventeen.

782
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,519
Speaker 2: There was one that looked like.

783
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,079
Speaker 3: A TICTAC because I thought they were rewriting TikTok like

784
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,559
I really did. And then some of the most compelling evidence,

785
00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:56,239
he says, are clear satellite images of unidentified craft operating

786
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,360
above Earth performing movements that are difficult to explain with

787
00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:04,599
current technology, and the government now does prefer that term

788
00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:10,159
instead of UFO. Under a recent order, federal agencies may

789
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,039
release more files related to UFOs and aliens through though

790
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:16,800
it's unclear how much will actually be made public.

791
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: Yes, it is. What the fuck is going on with that, I.

792
00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 5: Don't know, but these files will be more exciting too.

793
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: Well, they will be to me too.

794
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 3: And then it says Melon says, intelligence agencies historically resist

795
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,800
releasing classified information, so even if disclosure happens, it will

796
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,320
likely be slow and in complete. And he also says

797
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,320
the files probably won't confirm alien contact, but they may

798
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,719
show objects we still cannot explain absolutely.

799
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 5: I mean, you're I think we are very selfish. If

800
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,760
you think that there's nothing.

801
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 3: Else that's out there, that's a great term selfish, because

802
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,119
I do think like, if aliens aren't visiting Earth, then

803
00:39:58,159 --> 00:40:03,320
having to introduce themselves, I completely understand why. Yeah, I mean,

804
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,559
you come down here, you come down here, and people

805
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:08,599
are fighting over what.

806
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 4: Why don't we know they're not fighting on an other plane?

807
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I guess I don't that, I definitely don't.

808
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,960
But I mean, imagine traveling across a galaxy, right, and

809
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,920
you come and land here and some people are arguing

810
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,280
about I don't, I don't pick anything absurd, gas stoves

811
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,039
on Facebook.

812
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, you know what I'm saying.

813
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,639
I mean that gas prices, gas prices whatever. I mean,

814
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:36,039
it's just strange.

815
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 3: But if they landed tomorrow, how do you think do

816
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,119
you think humanity would handle it? Well, if all this

817
00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:46,440
stuff came out, what does that do to everything?

818
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: We? Like?

819
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 5: We can just shake those religious In.

820
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: My notes, the first one was religion. I go, what

821
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:55,280
does that mean?

822
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 5: I mean it would be crazy, right, yeah, reincarnation and

823
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,760
all that, you know, what we were derived from, and

824
00:41:08,039 --> 00:41:11,719
Jesus and the Bible. It would make people go berserk.

825
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:18,239
But imagine on the extreme those churches. You know, you

826
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,960
can have a church that is for anything. So I'm

827
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,880
sure that there are like alien obsession churches. Those people

828
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,159
are going to be on their high horses.

829
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 2: Man, that's a great point.

830
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,199
Speaker 3: I've never I've never heard of that because we only

831
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,880
know like the big religions, right, and in this country

832
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:37,360
you have the freedom of religion, but some religions get vilified.

833
00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:40,199
Speaker 5: I guarantee, if we went on Facebook and googled like

834
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,679
alien aliens exist groups, there's going to be hundreds of

835
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,679
thousands of people who are like that.

836
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 2: Great, I gotta do.

837
00:41:49,199 --> 00:41:54,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really interesting. Don't doesn't scientology say I was

838
00:41:54,559 --> 00:41:55,559
just go get.

839
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: Sucked up by it. Don't you get in a spaceship

840
00:41:58,079 --> 00:41:59,800
or something called tom cruise.

841
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,559
Speaker 3: But I mean that's the religion I always think about,

842
00:42:02,559 --> 00:42:04,280
like freedom of religion, and then the one that gets

843
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,320
shipped on ship on the most is scientology.

844
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,119
Speaker 2: I don't know enough about it. I'm just saying it's

845
00:42:09,159 --> 00:42:10,280
kind of a it's weird.

846
00:42:10,639 --> 00:42:14,519
Speaker 4: I know. Is Katie Holmes's father when they had to

847
00:42:14,559 --> 00:42:17,639
have her have bodyguards for a long time. Yeah, she

848
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,679
stays she was they were threatening her.

849
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:23,599
Speaker 2: I'm sure. Yeah.

850
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,519
Speaker 4: And her doing that show she has body I'm pretty

851
00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:29,280
sure she still has bodyguards.

852
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

853
00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:32,119
Speaker 3: I mean it gives you some insight, right, And it

854
00:42:32,159 --> 00:42:35,880
doesn't sound good. Uh, you know, you hear certain things

855
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,360
about Mormonism and and that sounds odd.

856
00:42:38,199 --> 00:42:43,159
Speaker 2: But Jesus the Catholic. The whole thing was a mess. Well,

857
00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:43,599
here's the.

858
00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:47,519
Speaker 4: Problem with the Catholic religion. I'm Catholic, not really anymore

859
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:53,119
grow Catholic. The problem is it never never modernized. It

860
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,159
should women should have been able to become a priest,

861
00:42:56,679 --> 00:42:58,559
should have been able to be married. Yes, it was

862
00:42:58,599 --> 00:43:01,519
like they ship, Yes things should have been done, but

863
00:43:01,519 --> 00:43:04,440
they're doing it still the same way they were doing

864
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:05,239
it one.

865
00:43:05,159 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: Hundred years ago.

866
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:11,679
Speaker 3: And if nothing, it proves how man made. That is, Like,

867
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,039
you know, that was always my thing with the Catholicism.

868
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,400
I always look at England in the mid century or

869
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,159
mid I don't even know, sixteen hundred whenever King Henry

870
00:43:21,159 --> 00:43:23,440
the eighth he switched religion so he could get late.

871
00:43:24,039 --> 00:43:27,800
That's that's what he did, right, and that's why that's

872
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:32,000
why they became more Protestant based, and Northern Ireland followed

873
00:43:32,039 --> 00:43:35,239
and Southern Ireland didn't, and that became worse.

874
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,679
Speaker 2: And it's like, it's fucking it's.

875
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:42,199
Speaker 3: So crazy, because I go, I don't human beings can't

876
00:43:42,199 --> 00:43:43,320
even merge traffic.

877
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 2: You think you're going to be able to handle a

878
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:45,719
diploma sation.

879
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 5: I mean, if this comes out that there is scientific

880
00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:55,280
proof of aliens exist. People are going to go crazy.

881
00:43:55,519 --> 00:43:58,320
It is going to be wild, right, you know.

882
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:05,639
Speaker 3: Look, I would say if tomorrow the government confirmed alien

883
00:44:05,679 --> 00:44:10,880
technology exist, right, people start freaking out.

884
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 2: But how would your life really change? And I'm thinking people.

885
00:44:15,559 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 6: Are gonna start doomsday prepping probably, but you go to work, right,

886
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,079
you would pay your bills, and you'd probably watch Netflix.

887
00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 2: I just don't think your life would change that much.

888
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,360
I really don't. And maybe that's our selfish thing, and

889
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:29,400
I don't know.

890
00:44:29,519 --> 00:44:31,599
Speaker 5: Maybe the X Files comes back to you all.

891
00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:36,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, highly read it, but it reveals something about like

892
00:44:36,599 --> 00:44:39,280
human beings, you start to panic about what you don't

893
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,559
even know, Like it's the uncertainty. Really, you're gonna go

894
00:44:42,559 --> 00:44:44,639
to work, You're gonna pay your bills, You're gonna watch Netflix.

895
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 5: I know. But that's like driving consumerism. It's just like

896
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,079
when they say that there's gonna be a winter storm

897
00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:55,239
that's hitting and people go to the stores to stock up.

898
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,920
Like if you're like, now you need an alien prep

899
00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:01,719
I mean really ha think about.

900
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 3: Well you Okay, So this is a weird thing because

901
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,840
all my life I've had real trouble wrapping my head

902
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,920
around the evolution of man. And how come we still

903
00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:22,079
have apes? We're one chromosome away, right or something. There

904
00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:26,320
are our cousins, the chimpanzee whatever, why do they still exist?

905
00:45:26,519 --> 00:45:29,599
And then there's us because most of the species that

906
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:35,400
have evolved are It's been an evolution through things. So

907
00:45:35,519 --> 00:45:38,559
what changed? What was the why? Not the why of

908
00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:41,039
how it happened? The why like the fork in the

909
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:45,920
road where human beings became less hairy and more rational

910
00:45:46,039 --> 00:45:47,159
minds in all this.

911
00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:51,679
Speaker 2: Stuff, and the apes stayed the apes. That's the thing.

912
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,679
And there are those that believe.

913
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 3: And it makes me wonder because I often say, we

914
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,639
don't have to truck things in from other planets. Everything

915
00:46:01,639 --> 00:46:04,920
we need is actually here on this planet. You got

916
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,280
all your resources, right. There is a theory out there

917
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:15,880
that that aliens came here for other resources and they

918
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:21,559
needed help getting these resources out, so they crossbread with

919
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,840
the ape, apes, the apes or whatever Homo sapiens at

920
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,599
the time as that evolution, I don't know.

921
00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:33,519
Speaker 2: And that we have alien DNA and US.

922
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 5: I love that, I know.

923
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,639
Speaker 2: But yes, I agree, I agree, And I'm not saying

924
00:46:39,679 --> 00:46:41,119
it's real. I'm not saying I believe it.

925
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 5: I'm saying my neighbor actually once they have a conspiracy

926
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,400
theory party where we all make the tinfoil hats, then

927
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,000
we do like projection of our conspiracy theory.

928
00:46:51,159 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 2: That but that's it.

929
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 3: And then there are people that that channel certain beings right,

930
00:46:58,599 --> 00:47:02,480
some from the metaphysical. But there's one and I'm just

931
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,480
gonna tell you and you can go look them up yourself.

932
00:47:05,079 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: Bashar.

933
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:13,559
Speaker 3: Bashar is a alien from another timeline, like in the future.

934
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:19,000
Who this guy I think is his name is darryl Anka.

935
00:47:19,119 --> 00:47:22,719
I may have that name wrong, but he channels Bashar

936
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,719
and he tells you basically how to live your life.

937
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,480
And I will tell you like this guy does says, no,

938
00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:32,840
I watch it. There's no bullshit. It's like some of

939
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,039
these people are Charlatan's that say this. I don't get

940
00:47:36,039 --> 00:47:38,519
that vibe from this guy. And I see a lot

941
00:47:38,519 --> 00:47:41,639
of his stuff on TikTok and he's saying that aliens

942
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,039
will have contact with.

943
00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:44,679
Speaker 2: Us in twenty twenty seven.

944
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,039
Speaker 3: But there are people and they send down, he said,

945
00:47:48,159 --> 00:47:53,239
they send down like precursors. So there are people walking

946
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,119
among us to China see if we're ready.

947
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:57,079
Speaker 5: Trump.

948
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm just saying, like, well, okay, but like we

949
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,239
have a government trust problem already. Yes, right, so if

950
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,719
these files come out, do we start to believe now

951
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,679
it's not Trump, right, most of this stuff will be

952
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,920
from we had years.

953
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,519
Speaker 5: Yes, fifty one.

954
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,599
Speaker 3: And then you know, look, people say the moon alien,

955
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,800
the moon landing was CGI, so you know there's going

956
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,079
to be that theory at all. And I do wonder

957
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,800
if you know, if this all did come out, what

958
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:30,760
the fuck would happen?

959
00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:32,079
Speaker 5: I'm so excited.

960
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: Yes, I am too.

961
00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:38,559
Speaker 5: I have a friend who's obsessed with space theories and aliens.

962
00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:43,599
She actually started a clothing brand based on like real aliens. Yep,

963
00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:51,920
like wait, it's called Who Made Who Like Aliens? Yeah,

964
00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:54,840
I have some sweatshirts and stuff. But she actually just

965
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,719
got like a spaceship tattoo this weekend.

966
00:48:57,599 --> 00:49:00,079
Speaker 2: She did. Yeah wow, what she looks like?

967
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:06,039
Speaker 3: Just hot, Just the hottest alien you'll ever see. Right, Okay,

968
00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:09,559
Mark has a good, good eye for this sort of thing.

969
00:49:10,199 --> 00:49:14,079
But what if intelligent life is common like or or

970
00:49:14,519 --> 00:49:18,960
we're not so like? Bouchard will say things in some

971
00:49:19,079 --> 00:49:21,840
of his stuff, some of it like really good life advice,

972
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:26,000
and it would be things like it may have been

973
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,760
where I got to think, like there is no you know,

974
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,199
what is the meaning of life? There is no meaning

975
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,119
to life other than the meaning.

976
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 2: You give it. Right that whatever you give it, What

977
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:37,920
are you here for? What do you want?

978
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 3: And like he talks about all these things and people,

979
00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:44,400
he gives a better explanation of like manifestation and you know,

980
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,719
letting things in and letting go and how you're really

981
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,400
blocking stuff and it's it's interesting, it's like really interesting.

982
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,440
But then he does talk the alien stuff and he'll

983
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,679
say things like that people are are they're either already

984
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,360
here or or.

985
00:50:02,679 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 2: We're not ready for contact.

986
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:08,559
Speaker 4: What I did ask Laura Fair if she had any

987
00:50:08,599 --> 00:50:10,400
freaking ugly fat friends.

988
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,559
Speaker 5: I said, I think the only one that's married with kids.

989
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,840
But yeah, but this is her her clothing brand called

990
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:20,639
who Made Who?

991
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: Who Made Who?

992
00:50:21,639 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's all just like space trippy like stuff.

993
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,719
I mean, she's a she's a designer. She's a creative designer.

994
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:31,559
That's her job.

995
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,199
Speaker 4: So is she single?

996
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,639
Speaker 5: She's divorced and remarried again.

997
00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 2: Wow, these are kind of cool. Yeah, So yeah, they're not.

998
00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:43,639
And they're not like the little green alien.

999
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 3: No, right, that's uh, that's really interesting. I don't know,

1000
00:50:50,199 --> 00:50:52,719
it's just a thought if this stuff comes out. You

1001
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,519
know what if we're like the zoo for these other.

1002
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 5: Places were caged animals, well, like they come.

1003
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 2: And just watch us and go look at this, look

1004
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,559
at them ship? Yeah right there you go like.

1005
00:51:07,039 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 3: And the weird part is that's the thing that fucks

1006
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,159
me up is I went to the Seneca Park Zoo,

1007
00:51:12,199 --> 00:51:15,280
our local zoo. They have a Rangutang's and I'm looking

1008
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,119
at this rangutank and go, oh my god, it looks

1009
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:23,079
like my uncle Joe, like it does it? Just and

1010
00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:26,280
you go, how does that still exist? And we're here?

1011
00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:28,599
What where was the fork.

1012
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,599
Speaker 2: In the road? I don't know? Could it be the aliens?

1013
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 4: If you're standing along, I'm not thrown in the middle finger,

1014
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,519
he'll he'll throw it back at you.

1015
00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 2: The uh really have you done it?

1016
00:51:40,039 --> 00:51:40,679
Speaker 4: Of course they have.

1017
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 5: Well, now I don't want to go do today for

1018
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,039
an hour and a half. Flip off.

1019
00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 3: I don't go to the zoo anymore because my kids

1020
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,000
are old. I remember being at the zoo and you

1021
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,880
want to talk about like, you know, we have this

1022
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,960
whole thing where kids learn stranger danger, which I always go, yeah,

1023
00:51:59,039 --> 00:52:01,679
maybe you need to go a little further advanced. Not

1024
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,119
most people are not snatched up by strangers, not saying

1025
00:52:04,119 --> 00:52:06,440
it doesn't happen. We do know that it has happened,

1026
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,679
but most people are getting harmed by someone they know.

1027
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:15,480
So they have those play things ones like built like

1028
00:52:15,519 --> 00:52:17,960
an ice sculpture that the kids can climb out in

1029
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,719
the playground, and then they have tunnels where the kids

1030
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,079
can go in the middle and they can pop up out.

1031
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 2: Of it and stuff like a groundhog.

1032
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 3: So it's just me and it's Jackson and Jordan, and

1033
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:34,920
they gotta be four, three and four. So Jordan climbs

1034
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:39,639
to the top one thing, and Jackson ran into jameson

1035
00:52:39,679 --> 00:52:43,119
was the important. Jackson runs into the middle of a thing,

1036
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,039
and I'm going, all right, guys, we gotta get it

1037
00:52:45,039 --> 00:52:48,119
going here, we gotta get going. And I can't get

1038
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,559
Jackson to come out of the thing. He's just popping

1039
00:52:50,679 --> 00:52:52,599
up and then he when he sees me coming, he

1040
00:52:52,639 --> 00:52:55,880
pops back down. And I can't really fit in this tube,

1041
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,719
like I'm gonna crawl in and pull him out.

1042
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 2: I really can't. I'm like almost two. I can't do it.

1043
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 3: So a woman that I worked with is there and

1044
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:09,079
she says, I'll stay with Jordan, who's on the top

1045
00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:10,639
of this thing, and I'm kind of keeping my hand there.

1046
00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:11,119
Speaker 2: He's three.

1047
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 3: I'm waiting for him, like you know, the things are bumby.

1048
00:53:13,519 --> 00:53:15,280
She goes, I'll stand with Jordan if you want to

1049
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,400
try to go get Jackson. I start heading over to

1050
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:22,360
get Jackson. And I'm telling you within twenty seconds because

1051
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:22,920
she says.

1052
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,559
Speaker 2: Hi, Jordan, and I work with your dad. He goes

1053
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,800
a big, deep voice, Hey lady, get away from me.

1054
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,480
You're scaring me, like at the top of his lungs.

1055
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,639
Speaker 3: Now, I'm like running back and forth between the two,

1056
00:53:35,639 --> 00:53:37,280
and I was like, I can't get Jackson out of

1057
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,559
the thing. He's laughing at me because I can't get in.

1058
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,400
He knows I can't get him. He's in the middle

1059
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,519
of the thing. He's for the other guy's screaming at

1060
00:53:43,519 --> 00:53:45,440
this woman, and I'm going, this is this is the

1061
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,760
most fucked up thing ever. But what if four of

1062
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,079
the animals in the zoo for the aliens, I could

1063
00:53:50,119 --> 00:53:52,159
be they come down and go, hey, we're gonna take

1064
00:53:52,159 --> 00:53:52,800
a trip to Earth.

1065
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 2: Eh, just gonna.

1066
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:55,679
Speaker 4: Watch They're getta show right now.

1067
00:53:56,119 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 3: Oh I know what Bashar said. Bashar said that, uh,

1068
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,800
tell up, not not telepathing.

1069
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 2: Things like but.

1070
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 3: Tele a transportation and where you can teleport yourself somewhere else.

1071
00:54:10,679 --> 00:54:14,880
He said, it's we're not able to understand the math yet.

1072
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,639
But we were advancing in technology, but we're not able

1073
00:54:18,639 --> 00:54:21,880
to understand that math yet. And once we get to

1074
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,039
that point, you will be able to teleport yourself. How

1075
00:54:25,119 --> 00:54:26,199
fucking wild would that be?

1076
00:54:27,079 --> 00:54:27,679
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1077
00:54:28,119 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 5: Traveling there goes the.

1078
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 4: Airline prices will Yeah, but how bad would they fight teleportation?

1079
00:54:38,599 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 2: Right?

1080
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, they wouldn't want anything, They wouldn't want anything. I

1081
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,440
don't know. Yeah, I feel like, based on our our

1082
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,639
recent track record, maybe we should uh send the Golden

1083
00:54:51,639 --> 00:54:55,960
Retriever to to another planet just to be nice. Right,

1084
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,280
they're the nicest dogs there are, all right, we will uh,

1085
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,599
we'll take them on. I have some questions for you guys,

1086
00:55:01,679 --> 00:55:07,519
because human beings are in my mind, we're fascinating, and

1087
00:55:07,559 --> 00:55:11,440
we spend a lot of time trying to appear normal.

1088
00:55:14,159 --> 00:55:16,679
Speaker 5: I don't know if to where the right people's head.

1089
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 3: No, you are and the other half are secretly googling things.

1090
00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:23,559
Speaker 2: We hope nobody sees. You know what I'm saying. That's

1091
00:55:23,639 --> 00:55:24,599
that's really what it is.

1092
00:55:25,159 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 3: And both of you have like different desires of things,

1093
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:29,719
and I just find it.

1094
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 2: It's just interesting.

1095
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,079
Speaker 4: It's pretty much the same.

1096
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,599
Speaker 2: We will get to that right after this.

1097
00:55:36,679 --> 00:55:39,039
Speaker 3: You never think you're gonna need a personal injury attorney

1098
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,039
until you do. It's not something you plan for. You know,

1099
00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:44,760
one minute, you're just living your life.

1100
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,119
Speaker 2: Do do next thing?

1101
00:55:46,119 --> 00:55:49,039
Speaker 3: You know you're dealing with an accident and injury, missed

1102
00:55:49,079 --> 00:55:52,800
work and a whole lot of stress you didn't ask for.

1103
00:55:53,199 --> 00:55:56,760
And here's the truth. Insurance companies they've got a plan.

1104
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,159
They know exactly what they're doing.

1105
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 2: The question is do you.

1106
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,559
Speaker 3: That's why if it's me, I'm calling Connors and Ferris.

1107
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,199
They know the system, they know how to fight, and

1108
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,000
more importantly, they know how to take care of people

1109
00:56:11,079 --> 00:56:14,480
when things get messy. You're not just a case file

1110
00:56:14,559 --> 00:56:17,360
to them. They walk you through it step by step

1111
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,360
and make sure you're not getting pushed around when you're

1112
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,840
already down. So if life throws you one of those moments,

1113
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,639
don't try to figure it out alone. Call Connors and

1114
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,760
Ferris or visit Connorsanferris dot com, with offices in New

1115
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,519
York City, Syracuse, Rochester, and Buffalo. Because when it matters

1116
00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:38,000
most you want someone in your corner who actually knows

1117
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,480
how to win Connors and Ferris.

1118
00:56:43,199 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 2: That was so funny, us we can't say it. That

1119
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:48,519
is so good.

1120
00:56:51,159 --> 00:56:54,159
Speaker 3: There is somebody I would love to interview, and I

1121
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,079
know this is behind the scenes, but somebody I want

1122
00:56:56,079 --> 00:56:58,000
to I would love to interview who I knew a

1123
00:56:58,159 --> 00:57:03,159
little bit, uh, fairly well known comic. Who is in

1124
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,719
a relationship like Mary?

1125
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 2: Who is it Jim Norton?

1126
00:57:09,679 --> 00:57:12,639
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, and I would love to Is it the

1127
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,599
same Is it the same one that was in Buffalo?

1128
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:18,039
Speaker 2: No? That no, this is uh he used to be

1129
00:57:18,079 --> 00:57:20,599
with own A and different things like that. But that

1130
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,119
was all. I don't know, but that that is a

1131
00:57:23,159 --> 00:57:24,519
great way in because.

1132
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:30,159
Speaker 3: Uh, we are fascinating as human beings and all the

1133
00:57:30,159 --> 00:57:33,599
things that we try to I think most people try

1134
00:57:33,679 --> 00:57:36,840
to put it on an appearance of normal. I really do,

1135
00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:41,199
and we're starting to see more and more openness. I

1136
00:57:41,239 --> 00:57:44,480
showed you that app I forget what it was called,

1137
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,639
because I still get the ads for it, but I

1138
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,840
since I haven't gotten here, I no, no, I know

1139
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,079
you did, I know you didn't.

1140
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:58,119
Speaker 2: Forbidden or something. No, I forget there was I do.

1141
00:57:58,239 --> 00:57:59,480
I totally forgot but.

1142
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 5: I want to say it started with a.

1143
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 2: P oh, pure pure.

1144
00:58:04,599 --> 00:58:07,119
Speaker 3: I think it was pure, right, And you can find

1145
00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:10,239
all your fantasy kind of stuff on there, right, and

1146
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,280
the people. My thing is like, we like things that

1147
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,960
are a little forbidden. And I'm not even saying dirty stuff.

1148
00:58:17,119 --> 00:58:18,840
Why are Secret Menu so popular?

1149
00:58:20,039 --> 00:58:20,559
Speaker 5: Oh?

1150
00:58:20,679 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1151
00:58:21,679 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 3: We like things that we think nobody backstage passes right

1152
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,679
to go to a concert. I want something nobody else

1153
00:58:27,679 --> 00:58:29,800
can really have. It's a little forbidden, you know. I'm

1154
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,920
not supposed to be back here. Vip rooms. Vip rooms

1155
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,559
are crazy at clubs, but man, everybody wants to be

1156
00:58:35,639 --> 00:58:37,960
up there. It's a little bit, you know, a higher status.

1157
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,199
I the speakeasies are making a comeback.

1158
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,599
Speaker 5: Oh my god, yes right, yeah.

1159
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 3: Because I got my mother a tour of speakeasies for

1160
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,079
Christmas down in New York.

1161
00:58:49,159 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. But then she's like, they don't do them at

1162
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:52,079
a certain time.

1163
00:58:52,199 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 5: I go with march.

1164
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:58,239
Speaker 3: I think I think she traded it in for something else.

1165
00:58:59,719 --> 00:59:02,960
Well only because no, it wasn't. It was more because

1166
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,519
they were doing them later at night, and she wanted

1167
00:59:05,559 --> 00:59:07,320
to just do it as a day trip to New York,

1168
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:08,800
and that means she goes, I wouldn't get.

1169
00:59:08,639 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 2: Home till late. She's seventy nine, it's dark. It's like

1170
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,679
she worries about she could.

1171
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,599
Speaker 5: Just find a guy to crash with in New York

1172
00:59:15,639 --> 00:59:16,119
for the night.

1173
00:59:16,199 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be great. I'd love to see when I

1174
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:18,760
wont do that.

1175
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 4: Oh I don't live in New York.

1176
00:59:23,719 --> 00:59:26,599
Speaker 3: But I mean, do we want fantasies or do you

1177
00:59:26,679 --> 00:59:29,280
just want the experience.

1178
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:35,719
Speaker 4: Sometimes the fantasies you have and you visit, you get

1179
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,559
to see your fantasy isn't as good as what you

1180
00:59:37,559 --> 00:59:38,400
thought it was going to be.

1181
00:59:39,199 --> 00:59:41,159
Speaker 3: That is exactly what I was thinking, because sometimes the

1182
00:59:41,199 --> 00:59:44,119
fantasy is better than the reality it is, right. I mean,

1183
00:59:44,159 --> 00:59:47,079
we hear about people with threesomes and things, and I go,

1184
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,239
that could go horribly wrong.

1185
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 5: I talked about this with the swinger stuff, like not

1186
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:58,239
swinging but going to like the voyeur is a more

1187
00:59:58,599 --> 01:00:02,400
experiencing it. I I just think that the fantasy in

1188
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,079
my mind is so hot, yes, that there's no way

1189
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:07,880
reality could live up to it.

1190
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:13,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what about like couples, because it might have

1191
01:00:13,159 --> 01:00:16,400
been Doug like after told me that he saw somebody

1192
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:21,480
who was looking for a third on Facebook dating you

1193
01:00:21,519 --> 01:00:24,280
know where my husband and I are both straight, but

1194
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,559
we're looking for a third we're looking for a guy

1195
01:00:26,639 --> 01:00:29,199
yeah and I guy yeah.

1196
01:00:29,199 --> 01:00:33,679
Speaker 3: And I was like okay, And I'm like, well, does

1197
01:00:33,719 --> 01:00:35,840
that make a stronger couple if you're open about your

1198
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,159
fantasies and explore them together or does it all of

1199
01:00:39,159 --> 01:00:41,800
a sudden Like That's the part that I could never

1200
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,400
wrap my head around again with swinging, is like how

1201
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,159
do you watch the person that you supposedly love and

1202
01:00:48,199 --> 01:00:51,440
we're getting railed by somebody else and go that's hot?

1203
01:00:51,559 --> 01:00:52,159
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1204
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:57,719
Speaker 5: Maybe, but like it in going along with someone who

1205
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:03,480
shouldn't be said, and how he liked to watch, Like yes, yes,

1206
01:01:03,559 --> 01:01:06,679
I am so intrigued by that with other friends, like

1207
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,239
I do have a friend who's sleeping with someone right now.

1208
01:01:10,239 --> 01:01:12,199
I'm like, oh my god, you guys are it would

1209
01:01:12,199 --> 01:01:14,000
be hot to watch the two of you together.

1210
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,599
Speaker 4: I think about certain people.

1211
01:01:16,519 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, so you know.

1212
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,159
Speaker 2: My mind my p's and ces over here.

1213
01:01:30,239 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 5: But yeah, but then also going the other way of

1214
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,880
not talking about sex and stuff, there are just other

1215
01:01:40,199 --> 01:01:45,480
like the thrill of something that's more forbidden or risky,

1216
01:01:45,719 --> 01:01:50,360
that risky behavior and stuff. So I mean sky skydiving

1217
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,320
something like that.

1218
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 3: That's a great analogy, right, because it's the novelty we

1219
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,239
want to feel a lot. Yeah, and the fantasy can

1220
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:00,519
make us feel alive.

1221
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 4: I mean there was a time when one time, you know,

1222
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,559
I'm not supposed to talk about this, but I gotta

1223
01:02:04,559 --> 01:02:09,920
say this, where I got so bored. I went on

1224
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,840
I was I was going on my phone. I was bored.

1225
01:02:13,159 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 2: Oh really yeah, yeah, and it wasn't as good as

1226
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:16,760
you had It wasn't.

1227
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,239
Speaker 4: And you know, it was like, how long is this

1228
01:02:18,719 --> 01:02:21,480
is almost over? Geez? I mean, how much stuff can

1229
01:02:21,519 --> 01:02:22,440
you really want? You know?

1230
01:02:22,599 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 2: Do? Well? Right, right, you're stuck.

1231
01:02:27,079 --> 01:02:28,039
Speaker 5: Let me check my email.

1232
01:02:28,239 --> 01:02:28,559
Speaker 2: I did.

1233
01:02:28,599 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 4: I was checking my email, answering my email, going on

1234
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,079
Facebook tax message in.

1235
01:02:35,239 --> 01:02:37,519
Speaker 3: Well, do you think everyone has a secret fantasy they've

1236
01:02:37,639 --> 01:02:41,079
never told anyone about? I think so, like a secret

1237
01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:42,800
fan like you've never told Eddy.

1238
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing. That's when you mentioned that, you

1239
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,880
know who the biggest people you have to watch out

1240
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,039
for are the people that don't talk but they had

1241
01:02:50,039 --> 01:02:52,079
the fantasy but don't talk about absolutely.

1242
01:02:52,679 --> 01:02:55,599
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, no, everyone knows I speak my mind,

1243
01:02:55,679 --> 01:02:58,599
but I think the majority and I'm going to say,

1244
01:02:58,719 --> 01:03:02,199
like eighty percent of people out there would never ever

1245
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:08,400
admit their actual fantasies our fear of judgment or being

1246
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:09,960
looked at like different.

1247
01:03:10,199 --> 01:03:12,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, even.

1248
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,559
Speaker 5: Though I guarantee the people who they're talking to have

1249
01:03:14,639 --> 01:03:20,239
secret fantasies on the shore. Absolutely, it's yeah.

1250
01:03:19,719 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 3: How do you get someone to open up about a fantasy?

1251
01:03:23,639 --> 01:03:26,719
And I don't mean that like show me the manual, No,

1252
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,360
trust Well, because you're bringing up a great thing. Like

1253
01:03:31,719 --> 01:03:36,559
there's the term maps, right, Minor attracted person is what

1254
01:03:36,599 --> 01:03:40,639
it stands for, So someone who's attracted to minors. And

1255
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,760
when this was discussed in a recent class of mine,

1256
01:03:46,119 --> 01:03:49,840
the person leading in the class said, you probably know

1257
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,199
a map and don't know it because you know it's

1258
01:03:53,639 --> 01:03:57,440
you know that it's socially unacceptable. You've been able to

1259
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,400
just navigate your life and blah blah blah. Put they're

1260
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,480
a minor attract person, then that's kind of their thing,

1261
01:04:01,719 --> 01:04:06,519
And I go, if that's your fantasy, fucking shut up.

1262
01:04:07,159 --> 01:04:08,639
Speaker 2: Right, if that's true.

1263
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 3: But then there are other ones like I don't have that,

1264
01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:15,159
but I have there's be other things, you know, And

1265
01:04:15,159 --> 01:04:18,960
then I've had people tell me about one thing I

1266
01:04:19,079 --> 01:04:21,280
never understood. But I had a friend who talked told

1267
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,480
me that he dated someone who had a rape fantasy

1268
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:24,880
and she wanted him.

1269
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 2: What did you just say, I sort of do? Did

1270
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,000
you just say I sort of do?

1271
01:04:31,719 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 4: Why are you surprised at this?

1272
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 3: I kind of am because it's such a horrible thing,

1273
01:04:37,119 --> 01:04:39,639
like it just and he wasn't really into it, so

1274
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,519
he tried, but he wants She wanted him to like

1275
01:04:42,599 --> 01:04:46,360
pop out of out of like the bushes and drag

1276
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:47,119
her in the house.

1277
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:49,679
Speaker 4: Remember the donkey punch?

1278
01:04:50,599 --> 01:04:55,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't is that real? Yes? Okay, I

1279
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:56,280
mean yes, she.

1280
01:04:56,679 --> 01:04:57,719
Speaker 4: Must have done it before.

1281
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 2: She wanted me to dunk. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, How

1282
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:01,119
am I?

1283
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 4: How am I going to do something like that? I

1284
01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:08,400
don't know, Laura, would you want to get docu punch?

1285
01:05:08,559 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: No?

1286
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:10,119
Speaker 4: I just wondering.

1287
01:05:10,519 --> 01:05:13,639
Speaker 5: I mean we've talked about like my choking, hair pulling,

1288
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:18,679
all of that type of stuff. But I I see,

1289
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:23,679
I understand the rape fantasy. I know it sounds absolutely horrific,

1290
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:29,119
but I get it. It's definitely have crossed my mind.

1291
01:05:29,239 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 2: You have to have like somebody you feel really safe with.

1292
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,239
Speaker 5: I would assume, well, yeah, right, yeah.

1293
01:05:35,079 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 3: You know it's like going through a haunted house and

1294
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,519
just knowing, oh, that's really just Joe behind the mask.

1295
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it makes you feel a little safer.

1296
01:05:42,199 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 5: Yes, but they say, like have a safe word. I

1297
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:49,840
mean I've there. I will never can shame anyone. But

1298
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,559
there are some things that I am not really willing

1299
01:05:52,599 --> 01:05:57,320
to do. But I've listened to there's a podcast I

1300
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,400
forget what it's called. I think it's called Why Are

1301
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,960
People Into the at And they take like deep dives

1302
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:05,599
into people's kings and you know, and it's just that

1303
01:06:05,679 --> 01:06:10,079
they interview people who are into it and it's very interesting.

1304
01:06:09,719 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 2: A kink that that would like that you go, I

1305
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:12,880
don't know.

1306
01:06:15,199 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 5: The pee thing I already said.

1307
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 2: Too, that's a fantasy.

1308
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 5: Yeah that Boldemore asked about that, and I was like.

1309
01:06:28,039 --> 01:06:30,199
Speaker 2: Oh, I could have cured athletes, but I don't want

1310
01:06:30,239 --> 01:06:30,559
to shower.

1311
01:06:31,159 --> 01:06:34,719
Speaker 5: I'm not really sure, but like, yeah, there are things

1312
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,079
like that, or I think I talked about the TV

1313
01:06:37,159 --> 01:06:40,280
show that was How to Build a Sex Room, and

1314
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:44,760
it's people who are into all different types of erotic

1315
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,239
pleasure and some of them were like a married couple

1316
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,800
that they've been married for thirty years and they're like,

1317
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:51,719
we want to spice up our sex life.

1318
01:06:52,519 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I mean most guys at this age.

1319
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:57,920
I heard a guy the other day he says, now,

1320
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,880
I laughed so so hard because one.

1321
01:07:00,719 --> 01:07:02,559
Speaker 2: Guy's like, yeah, I thought I was getting laid the

1322
01:07:02,639 --> 01:07:03,000
other night.

1323
01:07:03,079 --> 01:07:07,119
Speaker 3: And he goes and he's like, you still ask And

1324
01:07:07,159 --> 01:07:09,440
the guy's like hey, he goes, go and he goes

1325
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,280
because I usually just go, hey, is this going.

1326
01:07:12,239 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 2: To be a group project or a solo?

1327
01:07:16,119 --> 01:07:18,679
Speaker 3: I'm paraphrasing, but I'm like, I guess that's what it

1328
01:07:18,719 --> 01:07:21,760
gets to at some point. But you're right, the excitement,

1329
01:07:22,119 --> 01:07:24,679
that's the thing is like you look at people who

1330
01:07:24,719 --> 01:07:29,320
have had really long relationships. And I have a friend

1331
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,840
of mine, she got married, divorced, remarried, they have no kids,

1332
01:07:33,119 --> 01:07:36,159
she has had no kids, and they have a really

1333
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:40,079
cool life together and they're like the perfect couple together.

1334
01:07:40,719 --> 01:07:44,920
And yeah, they do all kinds of like kinky shit.

1335
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:49,360
I'm pretty sure, yeah, but.

1336
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 2: It's weird.

1337
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 3: I just think it's novelty. I think people like novelty

1338
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,960
in food, they like that forbidden thing. They like it

1339
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,519
in music, Like if I'm going somewhere to see, you know,

1340
01:08:01,239 --> 01:08:04,719
a private thing, there's something about that that that's exciting,

1341
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,440
and then the fantasy thing. And I think I really

1342
01:08:08,519 --> 01:08:12,920
think sometimes uh, they say something about who.

1343
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:14,679
Speaker 2: We are a little bit.

1344
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,119
Speaker 3: But it also could just be the brain entertaining itself

1345
01:08:18,399 --> 01:08:20,680
because once you play it out. We've heard too many

1346
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,920
disaster stories about like, you know, anybody who's into that

1347
01:08:24,039 --> 01:08:26,359
is kind of gross and and they're all, you know,

1348
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,279
people that are open. But I think I think people

1349
01:08:29,319 --> 01:08:32,359
are becoming more comfortable and talking about it. Yeah, and

1350
01:08:32,399 --> 01:08:36,000
that's the maybe you'll go out and you'll find have

1351
01:08:36,079 --> 01:08:39,520
you ever been approached in what terms they like to

1352
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:44,399
join somebody? Or do you know anybody? I think I

1353
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,920
know of people who have been approached to.

1354
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 2: Be like.

1355
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,319
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think I've ever been approached for

1356
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:57,439
like a thruple or anything like that, but I mean

1357
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,640
I've been approached for other things.

1358
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:04,279
Speaker 2: But yeah, you've an approach for other things I don't

1359
01:09:04,279 --> 01:09:05,479
even want to as well.

1360
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:10,359
Speaker 5: Like proposition about like having sex or yeah, but not like, oh,

1361
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,880
come I have a threeesome with me. I mean I

1362
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:18,279
think there's been jokes. Yeah, but if yes, if I

1363
01:09:18,319 --> 01:09:21,159
had played into that, and I think it would, I

1364
01:09:21,159 --> 01:09:24,880
would have said more when I was actually married. There

1365
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,279
were people who would maybe say a few things to

1366
01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:31,159
me because I've always been outspoken, and if I would

1367
01:09:31,159 --> 01:09:35,680
have played into it, they would have absolutely yeah, sure, yeah, yeah.

1368
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:39,239
Speaker 3: Do you think people I think people hide behind jokes. Sure,

1369
01:09:39,279 --> 01:09:42,279
it's a way to deflect. So if you don't bite,

1370
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,000
their safe. And if you do bite, that's what they

1371
01:09:45,039 --> 01:09:45,840
wanted to begin with.

1372
01:09:46,119 --> 01:09:49,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, Pushing the boundary is like how far can

1373
01:09:49,119 --> 01:09:49,479
I go with?

1374
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,319
Speaker 4: It's true? No, I'm the king of that. I am

1375
01:09:53,359 --> 01:09:57,479
the king. I was the king of that. What I just.

1376
01:09:57,399 --> 01:09:59,520
Speaker 5: Thought of something? I am?

1377
01:10:00,279 --> 01:10:01,359
Speaker 2: She sat on her keys.

1378
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:02,600
Speaker 1: I know.

1379
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 5: A few years ago I was still married. In a

1380
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:10,880
group of friends, they had a photo of me with

1381
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,479
a beer can in my mouth, like I can put

1382
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,960
my mouth around a beer can, and my friend like

1383
01:10:17,199 --> 01:10:18,880
found it on her husband's phone.

1384
01:10:19,079 --> 01:10:22,039
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh.

1385
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,600
Speaker 5: He had like saved it and she ended him about it.

1386
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:25,359
Speaker 2: What did he say?

1387
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:25,520
Speaker 5: So?

1388
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 2: I thought it was funny.

1389
01:10:27,359 --> 01:10:29,239
Speaker 4: I don't know, how did you get off to that?

1390
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:31,079
Speaker 5: Huh?

1391
01:10:31,079 --> 01:10:34,119
Speaker 4: How I'm trying to think, how does that?

1392
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 5: I think it was like we had been like a

1393
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:40,479
girl's weekend and I was in abra and like a beer.

1394
01:10:40,399 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 4: That's different and of course.

1395
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 5: And I heard from like another mom. She was like, oh,

1396
01:10:51,079 --> 01:10:54,640
so and so is pissed because her husband like had

1397
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,359
it saved on his phone.

1398
01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:00,159
Speaker 3: He was in the bathroom right over the sink, that

1399
01:11:00,319 --> 01:11:01,640
thing propped up against the mirror.

1400
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:03,600
Speaker 5: I was like, how do you get the fucking phonto? Like,

1401
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,760
did he take off his wife's phone like it was

1402
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,840
in like a grip chat with just the mom's.

1403
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,399
Speaker 4: Was on Facebook. No, he totally went through his wife's phone.

1404
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:16,079
That's fucked up. Oh, I know that's fucked up. Going

1405
01:11:16,119 --> 01:11:17,920
through someone's phone really is fucked up.

1406
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 2: I did someone go through your phone?

1407
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:23,199
Speaker 5: Story?

1408
01:11:23,359 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 2: I forgot?

1409
01:11:24,279 --> 01:11:27,399
Speaker 3: Well, Look, I have always been one where I would never,

1410
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,920
when I was married go into my wife's purse. I

1411
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,640
just wouldn't. It was kind of hurd space and I

1412
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,319
wasn't gonna do it. I wasn't comfortable doing that.

1413
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,560
Speaker 2: And yet there was you.

1414
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 3: There are other things where maybe you did overstep the

1415
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,479
bad I don't know. I tried to always give people

1416
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,279
their autonomy a little bit here, you know, and if

1417
01:11:46,319 --> 01:11:49,439
you're doing something behind my back and I I'm sure

1418
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,880
I'll eventually find out, And you know, I'm not going

1419
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,000
to live in some paranoid state of things. But yeah,

1420
01:11:54,239 --> 01:11:57,800
going through the phone is uncomfortable, it really is. Yeah,

1421
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,119
and it's I think it's it's you know, it says

1422
01:12:01,159 --> 01:12:01,479
a lot.

1423
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 5: I think people discover tweeting spouses that way though.

1424
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,520
Speaker 3: Well, if you have suspicion and stuff and you've got it,

1425
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,800
I mean, you know, maybe you find it the information

1426
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:13,640
another way.

1427
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:19,039
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, I'm faithful. Dude. Yes, I know.

1428
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:20,199
I know.

1429
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:26,119
Speaker 4: You know it's been questioned because of how I am.

1430
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,199
Because you're dating me for three years and you don't

1431
01:12:29,199 --> 01:12:29,800
know how I am.

1432
01:12:30,279 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 2: What the fuck? Right?

1433
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 3: You know I'm still stuck on the guy who had

1434
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,560
Laura's can't me too?

1435
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,520
Speaker 4: Is that picture around?

1436
01:12:41,359 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 2: Vora has everything? All that picture will pop up.

1437
01:12:45,199 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 4: I'll find that because I would have to look.

1438
01:12:49,079 --> 01:12:51,199
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure, but one of your friends still has it.

1439
01:12:51,359 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 5: That's the group that I'm not friends with.

1440
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 2: Him. Just call that husband. He's probably got it in this.

1441
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,239
He's got in his hidden photos.

1442
01:12:59,319 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 4: He totally did.

1443
01:13:00,039 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 2: Everybody's got a hidden folder.

1444
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 4: Somebody he didn't hide it hidden?

1445
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 3: Right?

1446
01:13:04,119 --> 01:13:09,119
Speaker 5: No, it was his phone background? Oh what what? Yeah?

1447
01:13:10,319 --> 01:13:13,560
Speaker 3: Oh I thought he was like pleasuring himself to this picture.

1448
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:18,479
It's their phone background. Why would you do that.

1449
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 4: Now that that's fun, that's fucked.

1450
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 3: That's an idiot, that's a house ape. It's like, you're dummy.

1451
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:32,000
Don't don't get caught. Yes, obviously, obviously, I just I don't.

1452
01:13:32,039 --> 01:13:35,720
I was never approached. I remember years ago, I would

1453
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:39,760
broadcast from the Newport House on Fridays and sometimes we

1454
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,760
would come down because he had a boat there and

1455
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,239
it was part of like his deal for the slip

1456
01:13:45,279 --> 01:13:45,600
or whatever.

1457
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:49,319
Speaker 2: We had great time. Place would get packed. It was amazing. Uh.

1458
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,279
I was married and had kids, but there was this.

1459
01:13:52,279 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 3: Couple and they would come over and always talk to me,

1460
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,840
and he would be like, hey man, they're they're looking

1461
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,279
for you to be to go because they're like, oh,

1462
01:13:59,319 --> 01:14:02,119
we got big piece, you should come out sometime and.

1463
01:14:02,079 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. And I was too dumb to like

1464
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,159
even know. I was like, I had no idea. I

1465
01:14:08,199 --> 01:14:12,560
wouldn't think anybody wants you wanted me. It's like, you know,

1466
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:14,640
you want me to be joining you in something.

1467
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 4: How they look.

1468
01:14:18,399 --> 01:14:20,119
Speaker 3: Once he said it, I was like, oh, yeah, he

1469
01:14:20,199 --> 01:14:22,119
kind of looks like he's a porn dude.

1470
01:14:22,359 --> 01:14:25,399
Speaker 2: And she was like a platinum blonde all died.

1471
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 3: They would wear yeah, And I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

1472
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,520
and you can see it like the other day I

1473
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,399
or maybe it was last week, human red flags, Like

1474
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,560
what are the human red flags? I go, yeah, sometimes

1475
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,560
that's a human red flag. When I see certain people,

1476
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,840
I go, oh yeah, I can see exactly what you're into.

1477
01:14:44,399 --> 01:14:46,960
I know exactly where you're going. But you got to

1478
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,439
get the hidden the hidden folder.

1479
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 4: Form background. What a dumb ass.

1480
01:14:55,359 --> 01:14:58,520
Speaker 3: Right, But I've learned something about people, and you sort

1481
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:00,640
of hit on this mark. The quietest person in the

1482
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:05,079
room usually has the most interesting Google search history. Yes, right,

1483
01:15:05,159 --> 01:15:08,199
I mean that that's usually the quietest one. That's true, right,

1484
01:15:08,239 --> 01:15:11,359
because they don't you know, and if you can find

1485
01:15:11,399 --> 01:15:12,920
them and get them to open up.

1486
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 4: A little bit, sometimes it's not good.

1487
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 2: What do you mean the quiet ones?

1488
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:18,039
Speaker 4: Sometimes they are up to no.

1489
01:15:18,039 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 2: Good, meaning they're looking to kill you.

1490
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 4: No no quiet ones. The judge people are the ones

1491
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:31,439
that freaking are gonna get caught doing something, getting you know,

1492
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,880
a hooker, you know, stuff like that.

1493
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 2: Well, there's a guy in Mashadon talked to about him

1494
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:42,760
on an earlier podcast that just got busted federal for

1495
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,479
having those sex parties. Right, and the big thing is

1496
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:46,199
he was a teacher.

1497
01:15:46,279 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 5: He was a teacher.

1498
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm like teachers drink. Your private life's your

1499
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,479
private life. He didn't have underage kids, and no one's

1500
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:56,479
saying there was anybody underage. These were consenting adults that

1501
01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:00,319
he was hosting these parties. There was an entry fee,

1502
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,800
there were certain rooms you could go into for certain services,

1503
01:16:04,079 --> 01:16:06,960
And I go, is it just the government not not.

1504
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 2: Getting their cut? You know what I mean?

1505
01:16:10,359 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 3: Look, we've taken everything that they thought was immoral, right,

1506
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,279
weed legalized, gambling legalized, So.

1507
01:16:16,239 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 2: What are we doing?

1508
01:16:17,039 --> 01:16:22,279
Speaker 3: Sex drinking legalized? Yes, sex is the last frontier.

1509
01:16:22,359 --> 01:16:25,359
Speaker 4: And I being a teacher, he was a dumb ass

1510
01:16:25,359 --> 01:16:29,000
for doing that. Well, it's kind of very careful you

1511
01:16:29,119 --> 01:16:32,119
and I are. Yes, No, I understand, but you know

1512
01:16:32,159 --> 01:16:32,600
what I mean.

1513
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,359
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, teachers have fantasies, do though.

1514
01:16:35,239 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 4: They do, but they don't go on a podcast and talk.

1515
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,239
Speaker 5: About Well he wasn't going on.

1516
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 4: And by the way, it's private home, man, it's just all.

1517
01:16:44,119 --> 01:16:47,319
Speaker 2: All by email was an email invitation out to.

1518
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 4: Certainly wasn't doing it on his freaking school computer.

1519
01:16:51,079 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 2: No, I'm sure not. I'm sure not.

1520
01:16:53,079 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 3: But I go, well, it's consenting adults. What's the big deal?

1521
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,800
And the big thing is he he's a teacher, And

1522
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:05,000
I go, yeah, you don't think your teacher has There

1523
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:06,800
may be a teacher who's part of the king society.

1524
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,439
You're gonna throw him out of the classroom if you

1525
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:09,039
found that out.

1526
01:17:09,119 --> 01:17:11,520
Speaker 5: That seems a teacher is gonna rusted for having sex

1527
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:16,840
with a students that you shouldn't. Definitely there, I mean obviously,

1528
01:17:17,119 --> 01:17:18,680
but still yes, And.

1529
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:21,319
Speaker 3: I'm thinking of I'm thinking just things that people would

1530
01:17:21,359 --> 01:17:24,359
be into just because you're a teacher, a lawyer, a

1531
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:28,239
leader of something, a business owner. Oh you like being

1532
01:17:28,399 --> 01:17:31,239
uh chained to a wall and whipped? I don't know

1533
01:17:32,079 --> 01:17:36,399
if that's your fantasy. Could you be a dominatrix?

1534
01:17:37,159 --> 01:17:39,199
Speaker 5: Oh yeah you can't really?

1535
01:17:40,119 --> 01:17:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? Wow, like hurting somebody wouldn't wouldn't mind?

1536
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,119
Speaker 5: Like wearing high heels and stuffing all over someone? That's

1537
01:17:47,319 --> 01:17:48,319
so bad ass?

1538
01:17:49,239 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 2: Bad ass?

1539
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 5: Ugh, really, especially if I was getting paid to do it.

1540
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:57,119
It's amazing.

1541
01:17:57,279 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 2: We see unexplained bruises on jil We know why, right,

1542
01:18:01,039 --> 01:18:05,439
that's the thing that's holy craft. All right, we'll get

1543
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:06,039
out of here.

1544
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,399
Speaker 4: I just uh what we're done.

1545
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:10,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna go have a beer.

1546
01:18:10,279 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost two o'clock.

1547
01:18:12,119 --> 01:18:12,680
Speaker 4: Where are we going.

1548
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 2: We'll go to an Irish bar.

1549
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 4: Oh, it's gonna be crowded.

1550
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:20,399
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think yesterday was your big day. Yeah, yeah,

1551
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:21,359
I think we're gonna go.

1552
01:18:22,119 --> 01:18:24,520
Speaker 4: We're gonna go to fair Part. Yeah, okay, is.

1553
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 2: That all right?

1554
01:18:25,039 --> 01:18:25,279
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1555
01:18:25,319 --> 01:18:26,239
Speaker 2: It's just up the road.

1556
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, are you coming?

1557
01:18:29,319 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1558
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:31,279
Speaker 4: Are you buying?

1559
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1560
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:32,319
Speaker 4: All right?

1561
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 2: You know, I get one thing to say? What's that?

1562
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 4: And I think that you should be a better host.

1563
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,520
I think you should have like a cold cut tray

1564
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:46,319
in here, you know, some some you know, different kinds

1565
01:18:46,319 --> 01:18:49,720
of you know, you know, I mean.

1566
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,359
Speaker 2: Okay, is that what you want? No?

1567
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 3: I just went on, Actually that is true. Something that

1568
01:18:58,279 --> 01:19:03,239
a snack cupboard. All right, I'm in Hey, look, whatever's gonna.

1569
01:19:03,039 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 4: You know, I come in from a Monday. If I

1570
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:06,399
come here on Monday and I you know.

1571
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:11,520
Speaker 2: You haven't eaten yet? Yeah, you want dinner waiting necessarily?

1572
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:12,439
Know what I got you?

1573
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 4: A couple of granola bars? Will freaking do the trick?

1574
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,359
Speaker 2: Okay, I will get a snack cover going all right,

1575
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:18,439
I'm that serious.

1576
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:20,239
Speaker 5: I love this for you?

1577
01:19:20,279 --> 01:19:21,319
Speaker 2: Why do you love it for me.

1578
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:22,359
Speaker 5: I mean it's great.

1579
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 2: No, but it seems it seems valid and fair.

1580
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 5: We're also here a lot, yes.

1581
01:19:27,079 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 4: Of course, but you don't have your money. You don't

1582
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:30,079
have a lot of money anymore.

1583
01:19:31,119 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 2: I don't.

1584
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 3: You're killing me.

1585
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 5: Why are you digging yourself in a ditch? Right now?

1586
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:38,279
He just said he's gonna go buy you a beer,

1587
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,159
and you're like, wait, now, I want this and this

1588
01:19:41,239 --> 01:19:44,119
and this. You I am, I also want.

1589
01:19:44,319 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 3: I'm financially fine, but I don't make what I used

1590
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:49,079
to be.

1591
01:19:49,199 --> 01:19:51,520
Speaker 2: And that's it. I was just I had to sell

1592
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,239
some one beer. I had to pull out of.

1593
01:19:54,199 --> 01:19:57,079
Speaker 3: Some things which maybe in the future could prevent a

1594
01:19:57,119 --> 01:19:58,399
problem present a problem.

1595
01:19:58,399 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 2: But I think right now work for all.

1596
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:04,239
Speaker 3: Is it all right for Laura who wants he wants

1597
01:20:04,239 --> 01:20:09,600
her Saint Patrick's Day celebration, for Mark who believes the

1598
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,600
quietest person in the room is usually the most dangerous.

1599
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:16,119
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, Bill Moran. We'll see you next time.

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01:20:18,239 --> 01:20:21,199
Just break the great Candidact in Tennessee. Thanks