Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. The Congressional Oversight Committee took a field trip
to New York yesterday where they spend six hours questioning
Hillary Clinton about what she might or might not know
about Jeffrey Epstein, and according to the after action reports
that we're getting from people that were involved, it descended
into a shit show, which shouldn't shock anybody considering the
performative nature of this whole entire thing since the very beginning.
And look, you can say what you want about the Clintons,
Hillary and Bill both, but they are political animals. And
if anybody thinks that they're going to get outmaneuvered by
people like James Comer or Anna Paulina Luna has not
been paying attention because there's a bunch of questions they
should have asked her that they didn't even bother asking,
at least according to the initial reporting. Now, the caveat
to that is we haven't seen the transcripts yet ourselves,
so we're just getting the pieces that both sides want
to give us. But if this preliminary reporting's true, then
they squandered an opportunity once again, and they'll probably do
the same thing with Bill Clinton, because it comes down
to this, they don't even know what they're talking about.
The people that are supposed to be investigating this story,
this scandal don't even know the basics. So if you
don't even know the basics, but you're gonna get to
the bottom of all of this, you're gonna figure out
what happened, You're gonna hold people accountable. Zero chance that's
gonna happen. And my guess is today with Bill Clinton
it'll be the same thing. Now, look, I'm not gonna
go completely ham on the GOP yet until I see
the transcripts, but considering the people involved, my guess is
it was an absolute clown show. So today we have
an article from AP and the headline Hillary Clinton testifies
she has no information on Epstein's crimes and doesn't recall
meeting them. Well, I think that's a lie. But how
do you prove it right? That's the thing. It's going
to be very hard to prove anything she says wrong, unless,
of course, you're willing to dig and you're willing to
bring other people in for questioning, like Jared Kellogg, who
says that the Clintons used to vacation ad Zoro Ranch,
and I heard that from numerous people when I went
to Zorio Ranch myself. So is she lying about that?
I guess she could say we used his property, but
we never hung out with him. He wasn't there. And
if you want to believe that, cool me. Personally. I
have a hard time believing that Hillary Clinton never met
Jeffrey Epstein. This article was authored by Stephen Groves. Former
Secretary of State. Hillary Clinton told members of Congress on
Thursday that she had no knowledge of Jeffrey Epstein or
Glenn Maxwell's crimes, starting off two days of depositions that
will also include former President Bill Clinton. Well, we know
that Bill Clinton can't use that excuse because he definitely
knew who Jeffrey Epstein was. Definitely had him at the
White House seventeen times, Definitely shared a hotel suite with
him when they were in South Africa, Definitely had a
favorite seat on the plane. See where I'm going with this?
Kind of hard to believe that Hillary Clinton knew nothing
about any of it. I had no idea about their
criminal activity. Well, I don't doubt that. I'm not saying
that Hillary knew that what they were up to, right,
But she's a grifter of epic proportions. And if Epstein
was ponying up a bunch of money, especially after Bill
and Hillary left the White House when they were broke, right,
trying to collect a bunch of dough, they're going to
accept it. Not even a question. Does anyone even question that?
I mean, I remember all of that happening in real time.
Not you know their relationship with Epstein, but the Clinton's
on the war path basically trying to raise money. And
wouldn't you know it, who provided the seed money to
get the Clinton Global Initiative off the ground. Oh that's right,
Jeffrey Epstein. That's not me telling you. That's Epstein's own
lawyer who said it. The closed door deposition concluded Thursday,
after over six hours of Hillary Clinton giving an answer
to every question. The depositions in the Clinton's hometown of Chappaqua,
a typically quiet hamlet north of New York City, come
after months of tens back and forth between the former
high powered Democratic couple and the Republican controlled House Oversight
Committee as it investigates Epstein, who killed himself in a
New York jail cell in twenty nineteen while awaiting trial allegedly.
I love when they confidently say Epstein committed suicide. Oh okay, cool,
And then the next article they're like, you can't trust
the government. Well, which is it? Do you trust the
government or don't you? I mean, what is this rage
against some of the machine. You know, I find it
laughable when people are out here talking about, well, the
government is bad when the other teams in charge, But
when my team's in charge, all of a sudden, they're
magnanimous and they care about people. They want to help people,
and they're going to do everything in their power to
make sure your life is great. Vote for my team.
And then two years later, after an election cycle, OHI
here is you can't trust the government anymore. They're filled
with liars and snakes, breaking news. Every single administration is
filled with liars and snakes. Yet the demand for a
reckoning over Epstein's abuse of underage girls has become a
near unstoppable force on Capitol Hill, and beyond well should
have dealt with it earlier. It's amazing to me that
people are crying about due process. You know, they didn't
get due process, the people who were abused, they didn't
get due process. They weren't treated correctly, there wasn't a
real investigation, but go ahead and go off about due
process for the people that were involved. It is amazing
to me, And it's also amazing to me how these
people can be so mad at these young girls who
were groomed and coerced into Jeffrey Epstein's Ponzi scheme than
they are at the men that are being named. And
it tells you everything you need to know about them
and their narrative and what they're trying to pitch. President
Donald Trump, a Republican who has expressed regret that the
Clintons are being forced to testify, bowed last year to
pressure to release case files on Epstein. No, he didn't.
He was forced to do it. What do you mean
bowed to pressure? The bill was veto proof, so there
was nothing Donald Trump could do about it. The Clintons, too,
agreed to testify after their offers of sworn statements were
rebuffed by the Oversight Panel and its chairman, Representative James Comer,
threatened criminal contempt of Congress charges against them. Meanwhile, no
more investigation into Lex Wexner, Right, no big deal. Jeffrey
Epstein's number one ace. No more investigation there. James Comer's
a clown and this whole entire committee a clown show.
And if it wasn't for the discharge petition, they would
have done exactly what they were trying to do, muddy
the waters, slow things down, and give Donald Trump and
the Epstein administration cover. That was the goal. But thankfully
row Conna and Thomas Massey had other ideas. I mean,
can you imagine if we were relying on James Frick
and Comer like every other decent person. Hillary Clinton added
in our opening statement, I've been horrified by what I
have learned about their crimes. She has previously said that
her husband flew with Epstein for charitable trips, but that
she did not recall ever meeting Epstein. She also interacted
with Maxwell Epstein's former girlfriend and confidant at conferences hosted
by the Clinton Foundation. I'm sure that's the only time,
and I'm sure Jeffrey was never around, never once. Come on,
who buys this? Does anyone really believe that Hillary Clinton
is telling the truth, especially about the topic. Let's be real,
but the problem is, Hillary Clinton wasn't deeply engaged with
Jeffrey Epstein. Bill Clinton, on the other hand, has a
lot to answer for. With Hillary, it's just basic lies.
Oh I was never here. I was never there. But
we have people who have come out and told us differently.
So it comes down to who do you believe. And me,
I believe Jared Kellogg and the Bryce family who used
to manage Zoro Ranch, that Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton
and Chelsea used to go there on vacation. And that's
because multiple people corroborated that for me when I was
in Zoro Ranch myself. So look, everybody's free to believe
whatever they want. Like I always tell you, I'm not
here to convince anybody of anything. I'm here to open
the door and if you walk through it, cool. If not, hey,
that's great too. But in my opinion, there is no
doubt that Hillary Clinton knew Jeffrey Epstein. Were they buddies?
Were you know on the phone? Ye happened about this
that or the other thing? No, but they certainly knew
each other. Maxwell a British socialite, You mean a child abuser,
all around scumbag, bipedal's serpent? Is that what you mean?
Also attended the twenty ten wedding of their daughter, Chelsea Clinton.
As she exited the event center where the deposition was held,
Hillary Clinton told reporters that Maxwell had come to the
wedding as a guest of someone else, and that she
had told the committee she only knew Maxwell as an acquaintance. So,
according to her, she was a plus one with Ted Waite,
who used to be Maxwell's dude. And according to Hillary,
that's why Maxwell was at the wedding, because she invited
Waite and Wait brought Maxwell. Now you can believe that
or not believe it, but that's what Hillary Clinton said.
Bill Clinton, however, has emerged as a top target for
Republicans amid the political struggle over who received them most
scrutiny for their ties to Epstein. Several photos of the
former president were included in the first tranch of Epstein
files released by the Department of Justice in January, including
a number of him with women whose faces were adapted.
Clinton has not been accused of wrongdoing in his relationship
with Epstein. Well, that's true. He hasn't been, not by
anybody who's serious about the case. But he has been
accused of enabling. He has been accused of opening doors
that Jeffrey Epstein would have never been able to walk through.
Comer also appointed to Hillary Clinton's work as Secretary of
State to address sex trafficking as another reason to insist
on her deposition. Clinton defended her work to address sex
trafficking around the world, saying it remained important to help
the millions of survivors of sex trafficking. Well, that's something
we can all agree on, right Yet, what has anyone
done to help them? I mean, if you were a
survivor of human trafficking and I saw this shit show
taken place, would you want to come forward? Would you
have anything to say to anybody? I probably would just
keep my mouth shut and stay home. At this point,
you have the President of the United States calling it
a hoax. Really, do you really think that's the kind
of environment that fosters people wanting to come forward and
talk about what happened to them. The committee's investigation has
also sought to understand why the Department of Justice under
previous presidential administrations did not seek further charges against Epstein
following a two thousand and eight arrangement in which he
pleaded guilty to state charges in Florida for soliciting prostitution
from an underage girl but avoided federal charges. Yeah, but
there was a big investigation and Jeffrey Epstein, well, he
only solicited one girl and she was seventeen. Bunch of idiots.
Hillary Clinton accused Comer of running a one sided investigation
that's failed the whole Trump and other Republican officials to account.
This institutional failure is designed to protect one political party
and one public official, she said. Yeah. Conspiracy theories, especially
on the right, have swirld for years around the Clintons
and their connections to Epstein and Maxwell, who argue she
was wrongfully convicted. Republicans have long wanted to press the
Clintons for answers. Well, they should, and what do you
mean conspiracy theories? We're still talking like this, are you
guys for real right now? They just never learn. The
legacy media never learns. And this is why I turned
down every request from the legacy media. They can go
find somebody else. I have no desire to talk to them.
A bunch of morons. They don't even know what they're
talking about, conspiracy theories. Meanwhile, the whole entire left is
engulfed with people eating babies and cannibalism. I'd say that
the conspiracy theories are rife no matter the political side,
and that's because there's a lack of information and a
lack of context from the government. So if you really
want somebody to blame, look no further than the DOJ
and Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton said that one Republican lawmaker
asked her a line of questions about vile, bogus conspiracy theories.
The deposition was also paused after Representative Lauren Bobert sent
a photo of Hillary Clinton in the private proceeding to
a conservative influencer who posted it on social media, violating
the committee's rules for depositions. You know, dumb and dumber
over here, Lauren Bobert and Benny Johnson. Every time I
see a tweet from Benny Johnson, it's either straight up
BS or some boot licking nonsense where he's pledging allegiance
to the administration and people follow that. People think that
dude's like reliable or something. Shit's crazy to me and
Lauren Bobert, Yeah, let's send a picture to Benny Johnson,
and of course she'll cry when it goes the other way, right, Oh,
the decorum, This that the other thing breaking news. You're
all a bunch of clowns, all of you, every last
one of you. Democrats said that the incident underscored how
important it was for there to be a clear public
record of the deposition. Representative Robert Garcia, the top Democrat
on the oversight panel, said that Hillary Clinton, after the incident,
repeated her long standing demand that the deposition be made public,
and the Democrats called for a video and transcript of
the complete proceedings to be released quickly. Comer said that
he would work quickly to release a video and transcript
of the deposition. Well isn't that nice of them? You mean,
you're going to do your job, James Comer, the gomer.
That's nice. The purpose of the whole investigation is trying
to understand many things about Epstein. He's whole reporters outside
the convention center where the depositions were being held. How
did he accumulate so much wealth? How was he able
to surround himself with some of the most powerful men
in the world. Well, that's easy. They're all fellow travelers.
That's what these people do. The whole lass financial sector
is corrupt. I don't know how many times, I gotta
say it. Finally, people are starting to catch on. I mean,
it's wild to me. You didn't figure it out earlier
when you went and got a loan and they tried
to charge you thirty five percent, which is wild as
hell considering if you're from the neighborhood and you know
the right guy, you can go and get that same
loan for cheaper on the street half a point one
point maybe one and a half, depending but if you
know the right people, you'll get a cheaper loan on
the street. Think about that for a minute, and then
think about them all laughing with Jeffrey Epstein as they're
breaking bread doing god knows what. Democrats, now being led
by a new generation of politicians, have prioritized transparency around
Epstein over defending the former leaders of their party. It's
not really true, because yesterday they came out swinging, Oh,
it's all tilted Clinton is Clinton? That? Stop it? Okay,
stop it now. Hillary Clinton not a priority when it
comes to these depositions, but Bill Clinton most certainly. And
I don't want to hear shit from people trying to
defend Bill Clinton. This man spent a lot of time
with Epstein and It's about time he gets under oath
and tells us what he knows, when he knew it
and what he saw. Is that really too much to ask?
Garcia also called on Trump to testify in the investigation.
He argued that Bill Clinton's appearance sets a precedent that
should apply to Trump as well. Bingo, what did I
tell you? Didn't I have a whole episode on that
weeks ago? Because that was the goal. That's the motivation
for the Democrats here. You have to understand everything's done
with a political shade. Even when they say it's not,
it most certainly is. And the whole entire point here
was to set a precedent to get Donald Trump in
the hot seat. Comer previously said the committee can't oppose
Trump because he's a sitting president. Still, Democrats are also
coming off an effort this week to confront Trump about
his administration's handling of the Epstein files by taking women
who survived Epstein's abuse as her guests to Trump's State
of the Union address. Garcia and others are also challenging
the Department of Justice assertion that it has met the
requirements of a law passed by Congress last year that
mandated the release of many of the case files on Epstein.
They didn't follow the law. Okay, they did everything but
follow the law. And it's crazy to think that they
actually believe or they'd actually pitch the narrative that they did.
They've done everything but follow the law. Senate Democrat Leader
Chuck Schumer of New York set his caucus in the
coming days would also under adacted versions of the Epstein
case files at a Department of Justice office. Schumer, who
demanded that the department release all the files and preserve
all materials, said that they will pull on every thread
until they reveal this massive cover up. Well cool, let's
start by talking about the money you received from Jeffrey Epstein,
mister Schumer back in the day. How about we just
start there. Did you ever have any other contact with them? Ever?
Hang out with them ever at his house? These are
the questions that have to be asked of everybody. And look,
just because we ask questions doesn't mean we think everybody's guilty,
at least not me. But we have to figure out
what's what. And when you have an investigation that is
as massive as this, as complex, everybody has to be
talked to if you've ever received one single dollar from
Jeffrey Epstein, and I'm the investigator, we're talking, if you've
ever broke bread with them, we're talking. Now. That doesn't
mean I'm going to try and you know, hang you
by your toes. But I have questions and I need
some answers, and for all these years, we haven't had
those answers. So now it's time for people to stop
the bullshit, stop the grand standing, stop the political theater,
and it's time to come clean. What did you know
and when did you know it? How about we start there?
All right, folks, that's going to do it for this one.
So over the next couple of days, I'm going to
be posting the OIG report into Jeffrey Epstein's death once again.
And I think it's very very interesting to look at
it with a sober eye because we also have all
the contemporaneous information now, including the deposition from Michael Thomas,
that we're going through, and to add to that, we
have a lot of new listeners who have never listened
to it before. So you can expect that as the
mega edition over the weekend, as we continue to swim
through all this muck looking for some clarity, all the
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