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Speaker 1: with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. But the privilege
Speaker 1: of talking to John today. John is an individual that
Speaker 1: reached out to me. He is a hunter. He's got
Speaker 1: some interesting things happen over the years. So John, welcome
Speaker 1: to the show today. How's it going man, it's going great.
Speaker 1: Thanks awesome. You know I'd say let's go ahead and
Speaker 1: get right into it. I'm going to pass things over
Speaker 1: to you and feel free to take us back to
Speaker 1: when you first started to experience things out there.
Speaker 2: Okay, this was back in twenty eighteen. I started hunting.
Speaker 2: It was some family property over in Illinois along the
Speaker 2: Iroquois River, not too far west of the Indiana Illinois line,
Speaker 2: and I hadn't hunted there. I'd been to this property before,
Speaker 2: but I had never hunted there. So my wife says, well,
Speaker 2: why don't you go hunt this property because you've always
Speaker 2: wanted to. So I said, okay, I'll go do that.
Speaker 2: So I went there. I set up a stand, set
Speaker 2: up a trail cam. This is a river bottom, so
Speaker 2: usually there's quite a bit of activity and along the river.
Speaker 2: About a month later I went for the opening weekend.
Speaker 2: It was in October for bow for deer went down there.
Speaker 2: I went on a Saturday afternoon. The first thing I
Speaker 2: did was grab my trail can, went back and looked
Speaker 2: at it. I had seventy pictures on it, but there were
Speaker 2: no pictures on it, so I thought that was rather odd.
Speaker 2: And the camera had been turned to the opposite side
Speaker 2: of the tree. And found that real strange. So got
Speaker 2: ready started to go hunting. Went to the stand and
Speaker 2: I had a real uneasy feeling. It was actually silent.
Speaker 2: There was no birds, there was no squirrels. There was
Speaker 2: no bugs or anything going on. I thought, boy, this
Speaker 2: is really strange. Got to my stand and in front
Speaker 2: of my stand there was about a ten inch round
Speaker 2: maple tree that was bent over and cracked. I thought
Speaker 2: it was something from the wind. You got to realize
Speaker 2: I have no idea what's going on at this point.
Speaker 2: But then I'm thinking, get up in the stand. I'm like, boy,
Speaker 2: that is really strange looking at this. It's probably two
Speaker 2: foot off the ground, and the tree looked like it
Speaker 2: was cracked, and there really hadn't been any storms or
Speaker 2: anything that came through there. So I hunted that evening
Speaker 2: and I just had the strangest feeling. Now I've hunted
Speaker 2: all my life and I have never felt like this.
Speaker 2: I'm hunting. I mean, I heard nothing there was, Like
Speaker 2: I said, no birds, no squirrels, no bugs, didn't see
Speaker 2: anything that evening, kind of shaking my head, going back, thinking, well,
Speaker 2: just a bad night. So there's some cabins on there
Speaker 2: that I can stay in, So go in, go to sleep.
Speaker 2: That night, at three forty five in the morning, there
Speaker 2: were a bunch of coyotes that had surrounded this cabin.
Speaker 2: Is the best way I can put it, one right,
Speaker 2: on the front porch and they were screaming like I've
Speaker 2: never heard coyotes before. I jumped up out of bed
Speaker 2: trying to figure out what is going on here, and
Speaker 2: I thought, this is stranger. There's one on the front,
Speaker 2: there's one on the side, and there's one off the
Speaker 2: back and they're all yapping. So I was startled. They
Speaker 2: jumped up, went to the door, looked out. It stopped.
Speaker 2: I didn't see anything. I'm like, so now I'm up,
Speaker 2: and they started again, which I pinted all my life.
Speaker 2: I funded coyotes. Usually that doesn't happen. So now they've
Speaker 2: moved off a little bit, but they're still out there,
Speaker 2: and then they stopped. I waited a little bit. I thought, well,
Speaker 2: I'm probably not going to see any deer today, but
Speaker 2: these coyotes going crazy. Go out to the stand, just
Speaker 2: a real eerie feeling. Again, got up in the stand,
Speaker 2: silence once again. There were no birds, no squirrels, a
Speaker 2: running around do nothing. Hunted for a few hours and
Speaker 2: I did see one dear about one hundred yards away
Speaker 2: running for its life. I never saw what was chasing it,
Speaker 2: but that was it. So I called it a day
Speaker 2: left called the landowner and said, hey, you have a
Speaker 2: serious coyote problem here. I've never heard anything like this
Speaker 2: in my life. He's like, well, I've never heard of
Speaker 2: coyote there at all. I'm like, well, okay, well, I'm
Speaker 2: just telling you there's there's something going on here. So
Speaker 2: I left. I'm still not realizing what was going on,
Speaker 2: but just shaking my head like something's not right there.
Speaker 2: Went home, told my wife that. I said, well, I'll
Speaker 2: go back again next the next week. Come back the
Speaker 2: next week, same scenario that whether it's been nice all week.
Speaker 2: This time I come back, I pull up. Now there
Speaker 2: is a huge tree broken backwards, leaning up against the cabin,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, you know what's going on here? So
Speaker 2: I called the landowner and I said, hey, you've got
Speaker 2: a tree down here. He's like, what do you mean
Speaker 2: there's a tree down? You haven't had any bad weather.
Speaker 2: I said, I'm telling you, there's a tree down and
Speaker 2: it's leaning up against the cabin. It's perfect, the top
Speaker 2: is just touching the side of the cabin. So once
Speaker 2: again I go out hunting. Same scenario, silence, and now
Speaker 2: I'm getting a little edgy. Didn't have any issues that night.
Speaker 2: I got up the next morning, same thing. Nothing around there.
Speaker 2: Now I'm really stunned. I don't know what to think
Speaker 2: about what's going on here. So I left still not
Speaker 2: really thinking anything about what else would happen. So went home,
Speaker 2: came back again the next weekend. Now, this weekend I
Speaker 2: did see a few deer. There was birds, there were squirrels,
Speaker 2: there was bugs. Everything, It was noisy, saw a couple deer.
Speaker 2: Didn't really have any problems, so I thought, Okay, well,
Speaker 2: starting to come around here. Now we're getting into the
Speaker 2: end of October. Came back one more weekend and the
Speaker 2: feeling was there again. It was just uneasy and it
Speaker 2: was silent Saturday afternoon, saw nothing, heard nothing. I had
Speaker 2: moved to it. He had another cabin there, so I'd
Speaker 2: moved to a different cabin. Back. Well, it gets kind
Speaker 2: of it gets dark down in the river bottom, So
Speaker 2: when i came out, it was still a little bit light,
Speaker 2: and I'm walking back to the cabin. Got about fifteen
Speaker 2: yards from the door. I heard a huge stick crack
Speaker 2: and a big thud, but nothing ran away. So I'm
Speaker 2: just standing there kind of looking into this thicket. Whatever's there.
Speaker 2: I know it's still there looking at me and it's
Speaker 2: only maybe fifteen yards away. I thought, well, it's got
Speaker 2: to be a deer, but it didn't run away. Nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe a minute goes by, still nothing. I'm looking in
Speaker 2: the thicket, and then across this meadow and another thicket
Speaker 2: along the river, I hear a scream. It sounded like
Speaker 2: a young woman screaming. So now I don't know what
Speaker 2: to do. So whatever's still in that ticket is still there.
Speaker 2: I heard that scream, so I decide, well, I'm going
Speaker 2: to walk out in this meadow because now I'm thinking
Speaker 2: somebody might be hurt. But I'm also thinking, why is
Speaker 2: there some woman in this thicket down along this river?
Speaker 2: And now it's getting dark. So I walk out into
Speaker 2: this meadow and look around. I don't see anything. So
Speaker 2: I start walking down towards the river, and whoever or
Speaker 2: whatever it was started talking, and to this day I
Speaker 2: can't get this out of my head. The best way
Speaker 2: to describe this was it sounded like like a language
Speaker 2: I had never heard, almost like a I have to say,
Speaker 2: like a Samurai, Japanese, Chinese thing. It would start out
Speaker 2: low and get real high. And now I don't know
Speaker 2: what to do because whatever is behind me is still there,
Speaker 2: and now I've got something. So I'm kind of in
Speaker 2: a pinch point here, so I stopped walking. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I better not go down there because
Speaker 2: and this is still the talking is still going on,
Speaker 2: if you want to call it talk, and I don't
Speaker 2: know what it was, so I decide I better go back.
Speaker 2: I go back to the cabin. I'm kind of sitting
Speaker 2: there trying to figure out what just happened, and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, Uh, there's a wall right in front
Speaker 2: of me. There's two big knocks on the wall. So
Speaker 2: now I'm flipping out. I'm a red I'm a fairly
Speaker 2: large guy. I'm six 't six, two hundred and seventy pounds.
Speaker 2: I'm starting to get mad now because I'm thinking somebody's
Speaker 2: messing with me. So I had I did have a pistol,
Speaker 2: So I grabbed a pistol and I start walking to
Speaker 2: the door and something I don't know what it was
Speaker 2: that don't open the door. In my mind me telling them,
Speaker 2: you know, don't go out there, because now it's just
Speaker 2: pitch black out there. So now I'm a little scared.
Speaker 2: And you don't get good phone reception out there, so
Speaker 2: I'm trying to rationalize in my head, well, now somebody's
Speaker 2: messing with me here, just relax and you know, don't
Speaker 2: do anything. Turn off all the lights. I'm sitting there
Speaker 2: somewhere in there. I fall asleep. At about three o'clock
Speaker 2: in the morning, I start hearing something hitting the roof
Speaker 2: of the cabin. It sounded like rocks and it was
Speaker 2: just there was like five of them that hit, and
Speaker 2: they were in a rhythm and then they just stopped.
Speaker 2: So now I'm kind of I'm actually scared. I'm thinking,
Speaker 2: if somebody's here, they've been here all night long, out
Speaker 2: here in the pitch black. No, what are they going
Speaker 2: to do to me here? So if I sit there
Speaker 2: in the dark, I wait, tell myself, I'm waiting until
Speaker 2: it's going to get light, and then I'm getting out
Speaker 2: of here. I fully expect to go to my jeep,
Speaker 2: which was parked I don't know, about hundred yards away,
Speaker 2: and my tires were going to be flat or something.
Speaker 2: The sun comes up and I kind of hurried up,
Speaker 2: gathering my stuff, went out. There was nothing, There was
Speaker 2: nothing wrong. All my tires were intact. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: figure out what's going on here. So I went back.
Speaker 2: I had to grab the rest of my stuff. I decide,
Speaker 2: I'm going to go look in this sticket where I
Speaker 2: first heard the stick crack, and it was about twenty
Speaker 2: yards away. So I go in there and there is
Speaker 2: a area probably ten foot round, completely flattened. And that's not
Speaker 2: like where a deer had been laying or anything like that.
Speaker 1: Big So a society who will be right back after
Speaker 1: these messages.
Speaker 2: I mean, like crop circle flattened, and I have no idea.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what could have done this? So I got
Speaker 2: my stuff when I got out of there, and I
Speaker 2: never went back, and I didn't tell anybody because I
Speaker 2: didn't want to get ridiculed. But I knew something was
Speaker 2: not right. So I actually didn't tell anybody for probably
Speaker 2: a year. Decided I kind of at this point kind
Speaker 2: of had a feeling what was going on, because I
Speaker 2: had done some research and some things popped up about sasquatch,
Speaker 2: and I was kind of beside myself. I had been
Speaker 2: listening to a few things and other people had the
Speaker 2: exact same thing happened to them that happened to me,
Speaker 2: and I just I didn't want to tell anybody, just
Speaker 2: because I thought nobody's going to believe me anyway what
Speaker 2: went on here. So I decided I did go back
Speaker 2: a few months, and then I did put out another
Speaker 2: trail camera, and I'm like, I got to know for myself,
Speaker 2: and I put that one out, and that one was fine.
Speaker 2: I had deer all over the place on it, all
Speaker 2: kinds of wildlife. But so whatever was there didn't go
Speaker 2: back there or wasn't there when I was there in
Speaker 2: this summer again, so I decide, well, there was another
Speaker 2: thing that happened, and I hadn't, Like I said, I
Speaker 2: hadn't told anybody this yet. So at my house now
Speaker 2: it's an hour and ten minutes away. My daughter had
Speaker 2: told me about a couple of months after this happened.
Speaker 2: She said the next day she's like, Dad, there was
Speaker 2: a baby crying outside my window last night. And I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: it's probably a rabbit or something going on, you know.
Speaker 2: She goes, no, it was a baby crying outside my window.
Speaker 2: And now we do have a big woods behind her house.
Speaker 2: So I in my mind here, knowing all this other stuff,
Speaker 2: I'm like, nah, this can't be. About two weeks later,
Speaker 2: I have this. I'm gonna call it a dream. I
Speaker 2: popped up out of bed in a cold sweat, and
Speaker 2: I had all I'm this, all I can think of
Speaker 2: is I had a something behind my house talking to
Speaker 2: me in that language. Again, now I'm thinking I'm really crazy,
Speaker 2: except the fact that I have a dog that is
Speaker 2: standing at the doorway growling like I've never heard of
Speaker 2: growl before. It's something exactly where I pictured this happening
Speaker 2: in the backyard. So now I'm kind of like, did
Speaker 2: this thing follow me home? I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened there. So then another strange occurrence,
Speaker 2: a couple probably it was probably two months later, I
Speaker 2: started hearing owls in the backyard every time I would
Speaker 2: go out the back door, and how I would hoot
Speaker 2: for seven days straight. Found this to be just bizarre.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. The one thing I can say
Speaker 2: is I never saw what this was, but I had
Speaker 2: a lot of things happen two Really, I don't know
Speaker 2: what else it could be. So then I decide, now
Speaker 2: it's a couple of years later, this is back. So
Speaker 2: now we're into twenty twenty three. My wife, who's putting
Speaker 2: up with me listening to all this stuff that I'm
Speaker 2: telling her. She said, well, let's take the dogs and
Speaker 2: go back there and you can show me, you know,
Speaker 2: where all this happened. I'm like, all right, now, this
Speaker 2: was in September, late September, a beautiful day, got down there,
Speaker 2: opened the gate, still had the key, go back down
Speaker 2: to by the river, and I had my two dogs
Speaker 2: with me and my daughter and my wife. As soon
Speaker 2: as I stepped out of the jeep, I knew something
Speaker 2: wasn't right again, same feeling, just silence. My one dog
Speaker 2: wouldn't even get out the jeep. So I was a
Speaker 2: little on edge. I told my wife and like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not feeling feeling it right now. He said, well,
Speaker 2: let's go kind of walk the dogs around a little bit.
Speaker 2: You can show me where all this happened. So we
Speaker 2: start walking the dogs and I'm uneasy. She's kind of
Speaker 2: looking at me like, yeah, okay, whatever. The dogs are silent,
Speaker 2: which is one's a beagle, and you know beagles, they're
Speaker 2: never silent. They're walking just not really doing much. Take
Speaker 2: her show her where everything's at, and it's kind of funny.
Speaker 2: She starts to whistle. She goes, I heard you should
Speaker 2: never whistle in the woods. I said, yeah, you probably shouldn't.
Speaker 2: So she's whistling and I'm like, you know, stop, So
Speaker 2: I take her where, show her where all this is.
Speaker 2: There was no flattened circle or anything at this time.
Speaker 2: So my daughter decides she goes, well, I'm going to
Speaker 2: go back, and I said, okay, we're going to walk
Speaker 2: the dogs. And looking around a little bit more, well,
Speaker 2: I kind of got that uneasy feeling. I said, now
Speaker 2: we're going to go back with my daughter. My wife
Speaker 2: starts whistling again, which I'm kind of laughing. Now. I said,
Speaker 2: all right, I'll start whistling. So I started whistling and
Speaker 2: we turn this bend right around this road here, and
Speaker 2: at the same time, my wife and daughter say, there's
Speaker 2: a beagle right there and there's some somebody with it.
Speaker 2: Now I'm fifteen yards away from this, so I said,
Speaker 2: get the dog. And the dogs are silent. They're just
Speaker 2: sitting there looking. So I run that. They couldn't have
Speaker 2: taken me five seconds, ten seconds to get to where
Speaker 2: this is at. There's nothing there. So I'm looking at him.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you sure you saw something like yeah, and
Speaker 2: my daughter's like, yeah, I saw like black boots running.
Speaker 2: Now this is an open field. I would have seen
Speaker 2: something in that amount of time. So I said, well,
Speaker 2: get the dogs in the car, so we're getting out
Speaker 2: of here. I looked around nothing. So as we're driving
Speaker 2: driving out now there's no wind or anything. That day,
Speaker 2: there is a across the road blocking me from getting
Speaker 2: out the gate. So I had to stop and I
Speaker 2: I mean, if it would have fallen, I would have
Speaker 2: heard something. So now my wife and daughter are scared.
Speaker 2: I get out. I moved the log. I'm looking around.
Speaker 2: I don't see anything. I get out of there, and
Speaker 2: I have never been back. Now. I did talk to
Speaker 2: the landowner about it. I finally got the courage to
Speaker 2: tell him and he said, well, I've never had anything
Speaker 2: like that happen, he said, but I was out here
Speaker 2: one night building this cabin, and across the creek we
Speaker 2: see this light dancing through the trees. Like he goes.
Speaker 2: It looks like a lantern that's just going up and
Speaker 2: down through the trees. And he went over. As soon
Speaker 2: as he got there, it just disappeared. So I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's something at this place, if it's paranormal,
Speaker 2: but there is something definitely going on there. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I have not been back there. Don't know that I
Speaker 2: want to go back there again. Don't know if I
Speaker 2: want to see what actually is there, but pretty sure
Speaker 2: it's still there. So that's my story. I don't know
Speaker 2: if anybody else has had any issues in that area,
Speaker 2: but this is along the Iroquois River in central Illinois.
Speaker 1: John, that's absolutely incredible. Thank you for sharing what you experienced.
Speaker 1: When you when you're saying central Illinois, you know myself,
Speaker 1: I'm from Iowa, so when I think central Illinois, I'm
Speaker 1: thinking like Springfield, Peoria. Is that what you mean by
Speaker 1: central Illinois.
Speaker 2: No, it's more towards Watsika.
Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha, that's just h.
Speaker 2: I actually quit hunting for a couple of seasons there
Speaker 2: after that, and to this day, I can still hear
Speaker 2: that talking. That's the thing. Whatever that was H was
Speaker 2: not anything that I I have ever heard or no,
Speaker 2: and I've never felt that way anywhere else I've wanted,
Speaker 2: and I've hunted for forty years now, and it still
Speaker 2: gives me goosebumps talking about it.
Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you're incredibly emotionally affected by by
Speaker 1: what happened, even today, and thank you for being able
Speaker 1: to talk through what you experienced. You you have You've
Speaker 1: never heard anything like what you heard that day anywhere else? No?
Speaker 2: Never, okay, never. Yeah, it was a you know, the scream.
Speaker 2: At first I thought it was a woman. It was
Speaker 2: a high pitched scream, and it was down in this thicket,
Speaker 2: this real dark thicket, which you know kind of when
Speaker 2: you hear that, like what's going on there? But then
Speaker 2: the talking Actually, as I'm walking down to look, they
Speaker 2: started talking and then it was a It started out
Speaker 2: low and then it got real high and it was
Speaker 2: just gibberish and iman can hear it in my head
Speaker 2: right now? Have you ever heard stuff that happened at home? Yeah?
Speaker 2: You know, I don't. I don't know. You know, there's
Speaker 2: times I thought, hey, I'm I'm going crazy here, but
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 1: So big for a society will be right back after
Speaker 1: these messages, hmm. I mean, just the fact that your
Speaker 1: dog was also affected by the same thing at the
Speaker 1: same time. Have you ever listened to what's called the
Speaker 1: Sierra Sounds at all? Do you ever look at that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, similar on some of it, but not the
Speaker 2: whoops or the It was more it was like it
Speaker 2: was it was a conversation that was going on, hm,
Speaker 2: but it was the same between the two or possibly three.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I ran this scenario through my head
Speaker 2: so many times. I think, now there's some fruit trees
Speaker 2: and things on this property. I think maybe they're coming
Speaker 2: in to feed there. That's all I can guess. The
Speaker 2: landowner did tell me, He goes, yeah, my peaches keep disappearing,
Speaker 2: and he doesn't know where they go at that time,
Speaker 2: you know, in the fall. But I think I startled
Speaker 2: the one that was right by the door of the cabin,
Speaker 2: and somehow the other ones were trying to distract me.
Speaker 2: But you know, all this stuff runs through your head
Speaker 2: and you never really I really, I'll never probably ever know.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's that's the trick about it is, you know,
Speaker 1: you just there's no way to know that the actual answers,
Speaker 1: and then your your mind just keeps working and working.
Speaker 1: And do you know is this location usually empty? There's
Speaker 1: not people out in this location, or is it pretty
Speaker 1: busy in the fall.
Speaker 2: In the summer they use it more, but in the fall, no,
Speaker 2: it's it's empty, okay. And then that log across the
Speaker 2: road when we were going out that last time, that
Speaker 2: that's pretty much stealed it for me. I'm not I
Speaker 2: really have no desire to go back there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't blame you, And it kind of makes
Speaker 1: me one of the things I always think about, you know,
Speaker 1: when it comes to a situation when you have a
Speaker 1: hunter in a area where there's some of these bigfoot
Speaker 1: you have food sources and and you said peaches, but
Speaker 1: then you also mentioned how there was the deer that
Speaker 1: was running for its life from something, and you almost
Speaker 1: have to wonder if the way that they are viewing
Speaker 1: you is something that's taking away there or potentially taking
Speaker 1: where their food source, and that's why they wanted you
Speaker 1: out of there, no matter what, you know.
Speaker 2: They definitely want me out there. Yeah good, I mean
Speaker 2: that just I mean, think about that first that I
Speaker 2: was there with those coyotes. I mean, right on the porch,
Speaker 2: out of a dead sleep, waking up with that screaming.
Speaker 2: And these were the loudest coyotes I've ever heard in
Speaker 2: my life. So but I at that point, I don't
Speaker 2: think of anything else, you know, possibly mimicking a coyote, right,
Speaker 2: But there was just too many strange things that happened
Speaker 2: over that time. And then when you put them all together. Yeah,
Speaker 2: whatever it is did not want me there.
Speaker 1: There's something that I want to clarify. It is back
Speaker 1: at your house. So whenever you left the house, you
Speaker 1: would hear owls throughout the day.
Speaker 2: It was in the evening. Seven nights in a row.
Speaker 2: I would go out on my back deck and it
Speaker 2: would start. It was only me. When somebody else went out,
Speaker 2: it didn't happen, and I thought that it was really strange.
Speaker 2: Especially after about the third night. I'm like, yeah, here
Speaker 2: we go again. So I don't know. And then when
Speaker 2: my daughter swears it was a baby crying right outside
Speaker 2: her window, brings back, you know that scream that I
Speaker 2: heard too. So I don't know. I didn't see anything,
Speaker 2: and I'm kind of glad I didn't see anything, but
Speaker 2: it sure has affected me.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. I do have another question about the owls.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes I get people that report something similar
Speaker 1: to that. But then, were there any other details you
Speaker 1: remember about how they sounded or anything that was off
Speaker 1: about it? Or did it sound like pretty much a
Speaker 1: normal owl?
Speaker 2: It sounded the it was kind of a louder owl.
Speaker 2: Who but they were the same every night, and I
Speaker 2: couldn't see the owl, but it wasn't too far away
Speaker 2: from me, but I thought that rather out every time
Speaker 2: I came out for that week, it would happen, and
Speaker 2: then I just quit, and I had never happened.
Speaker 1: Since I was going to ask you that too. Is
Speaker 1: so after that last interaction where it was you and
Speaker 1: your family at the property and then you were able
Speaker 1: to get out of there, did anything else the ordinary
Speaker 1: happened since then? Or it's been pretty much cleared out.
Speaker 2: It's been pretty calm. I have not had any more instances.
Speaker 1: And your daughter as well too. Yes, okay, interesting. Have
Speaker 1: you ever done any research to see if there's been
Speaker 1: other encounters reported near that area?
Speaker 2: I did look up. I saw one that was actually
Speaker 2: along the Iroquois River there, but it was further west
Speaker 2: and south, and somebody had seen had actually seen them
Speaker 2: a couple of nights in a row along the road.
Speaker 2: But then that was that. But no, I've seen I
Speaker 2: have heard other instances more in southern Illinois. People have
Speaker 2: seen them.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely. I mean you get down to southern Illinois
Speaker 1: and it does get extremely wild down there. It's come
Speaker 1: up a few times on the show recently. There's some
Speaker 1: that aren't even out yet. But yeah, southern Illinois is interesting.
Speaker 1: That's why it's special to hear about this area of
Speaker 1: the state. You don't hear a lot of it. Usually
Speaker 1: hear around Peoria or down near Shawnee. So it's very
Speaker 1: cool to hear about this area.
Speaker 2: Although there are some big woods there. Yeah, and like
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a river. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, John, it sounds like you've you've thought about
Speaker 1: this a whole lot over over the years. And I
Speaker 1: don't blame you. I would as well when you think
Speaker 1: about Bigfoot, and I know you didn't have the chance
Speaker 1: to see anything, but you really experienced some intense things.
Speaker 1: So when you're thinking about that in your mind, what
Speaker 1: do you do? You have any thoughts about what Bigfoot
Speaker 1: might be that's out there.
Speaker 2: Well, I do believe it is an entity that maybe interdimensional.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many people have seen them and
Speaker 2: experienced things. There's got to be something there. Uh got
Speaker 2: to be a lot smarter than me.
Speaker 1: It definitely knew where you were on the property and
Speaker 1: where you were headed, which is pretty wild. How it
Speaker 1: had the the trees against certain areas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, two trees down, one right in front of my stand.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was a green tree just broken half,
Speaker 2: and then the one the big tree, and it was
Speaker 2: perfect and it came back. It was backwards and it
Speaker 2: was perfectly lined up to the cabin. The tip of
Speaker 2: the top of the tree was touching the cabin. At
Speaker 2: that point, I thought, oh, this is how lucky can
Speaker 2: you get that it didn't.
Speaker 1: Destroy the cabin right exactly?
Speaker 2: But then I was looking at it. There's no lightning
Speaker 2: strikes and it was just broken.
Speaker 1: At any time, did you see any anything that looked
Speaker 1: like it could be like tracks or you know, disturbances
Speaker 1: in the ground anything, I thought did.
Speaker 2: Along the river, it looked like something had been walking
Speaker 2: and it sunk deep down. I thought, you know, maybe
Speaker 2: it's a deer because you can't tell, but it was.
Speaker 2: It was rather large, but I couldn't at that point.
Speaker 2: I'm not really when I saw this, I wasn't. I
Speaker 2: wasn't really thinking of that, right, but you know, it
Speaker 2: could have been somebody walking through the mud down there.
Speaker 2: But I didn't really see anybody fishing or anything along
Speaker 2: the river either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's that's a good point to bring up,
Speaker 1: because you know, you're just you're just a hunter out
Speaker 1: there trying to figure out what's going on and trying
Speaker 1: to to get what you're out there for, and you're
Speaker 1: not in the mindset where, Okay, how long are the tracks?
Speaker 1: How long between the tracks? Are the tracks in a
Speaker 1: straight line, or are they by themselves? You're not thinking
Speaker 1: like that, You're just like, what what is going on? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was something I don't ever want to experience again.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that, would you ever want to to
Speaker 1: see what one looks like if you had the.
Speaker 2: Chance, I guess I would, just out of curiosity. But
Speaker 2: I don't know that. I you know, I don't know
Speaker 2: what I would have done if I would have saw one,
Speaker 2: know that that one night. Yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: guess it would be interesting to see one, But with
Speaker 2: the stuff that's happened to me, actually, I don't know
Speaker 2: if I do.
Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah, it's a tricky one, for sure. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely you can say that that you do. But then
Speaker 1: there's the old saying where it's it's be careful for
Speaker 1: what you wish for, and I get that too. Do
Speaker 1: you have any thoughts as to do you feel that
Speaker 1: it's helpful for an individual that's had an experience like
Speaker 1: this to share to someone rather than to keep it
Speaker 1: all in. Was that something that you had to work
Speaker 1: through or was there a difference in how you felt
Speaker 1: after you finally shared it.
Speaker 2: Well, at first I was I didn't think anyone would
Speaker 2: believe me when I if I told them, so I to,
Speaker 2: you know, I just kept quiet, But then it kept
Speaker 2: eating away at me. And then once they finally did
Speaker 2: say something, it did feel better. And it does feel
Speaker 2: better to talk about it because I know there's other
Speaker 2: people out there that have probably had some type of
Speaker 2: similar occurrences that might be like I was, and they're
Speaker 2: not saying anything about it. So I would tell them
Speaker 2: it is good to tell somebody about it and talk
Speaker 2: about it. It kind of helps with understanding what happened.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I agree one hundred percent it is. I've never
Speaker 1: found it where it is not helpful to the person
Speaker 1: that's sharing it. It always seems to be helpful in
Speaker 1: some way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, our government has to know someone
Speaker 2: about this. Why they're quiet, I don't I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I guess they don't want to panic people.
Speaker 1: But well, you know, John, I don't know, because, like
Speaker 1: you know, we're recording this on the day of the inauguration. Correct, yes,
Speaker 1: and I mean not to get overly too political, but
Speaker 1: there's a chance that some things, well some things are
Speaker 1: definitely going to be released if if the current president
Speaker 1: has his way, and I don't think it's too far
Speaker 1: out of the picture that potentially, I mean, if there's
Speaker 1: ever going to be a time, it is going to
Speaker 1: be you know, President Trump, that he's going to see
Speaker 1: the folder as his bigfoot and he's going to say,
Speaker 1: just put out there. I don't care, like it's all
Speaker 1: about getting the right person that can be like, yes,
Speaker 1: why don't you throw that out too, you know, And
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it could happen, It could happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see, we will see. But man, John, it has
Speaker 1: been a privilege having you on the show tonight. Thank
Speaker 1: you for reaching out. I'm glad that you're able to
Speaker 1: respond to me after I put a comment on your comment.
Speaker 1: I'm still at the point where I'm able to read
Speaker 1: through all the comments. A lot of the interviews come
Speaker 1: from those comments on YouTube, and I just appreciate you
Speaker 1: coming on the show and sharing something that I can
Speaker 1: tell is still very fresh in your mind.
Speaker 2: Yes, it definitely is. And thank you for having me
Speaker 2: on here and letting me express myself. It does help.
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