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Speaker 2: A vation.
Speaker 1: There it is.
Speaker 2: Thank you Sean McMahon, Governed four, Joe Strecker, appreciate you
Speaker 2: being here all week man. And a very happy Friday, everybody,
Speaker 2: of course always love Fridays in a very cheerful mood. Thankfully,
Speaker 2: my wife is back from Chicago. She was gone all
Speaker 2: week and that's uh disrupting for someone who realizes so
Speaker 2: much on his wife, but more fundamentally taking a week off.
Speaker 2: So next week I am doing a mental health week.
Speaker 2: Dan Carroll's going to adequately take care of the program
Speaker 2: Monday through Thursday, and Kevin Gordon's filling in on next Friday.
Speaker 2: So thanks in advance to Dan and covering for covering
Speaker 2: for me. Well, I well sleep in, which is really
Speaker 2: the only thing I look forward to on vacation. So yeah,
Speaker 2: staycation and a special shout out and thanks from the
Speaker 2: bottom of my heart to be if being invited last
Speaker 2: night to the Warren Lincoln Reagan Dinner, the reborn kind
Speaker 2: of Republican Party Lincoln Reagan Dinner. I was great because
Speaker 2: Orlando Sonza did the MC work and I quite often
Speaker 2: am asked and I'm honored when I'm asked to introduce people,
Speaker 2: and Orlando, who I dearly love. I think he is
Speaker 2: just an outstanding guy, and I know he's got a
Speaker 2: great political future in front of him. Whatever he chooses
Speaker 2: to do, he's got a great future.
Speaker 1: Period. But he did a great.
Speaker 2: Job facilitating and I was asked to introduce Vivek Ramaswamy,
Speaker 2: which was a distinct pleasure. Our next governor without question.
Speaker 2: That guy is mind blowing. Every time I hear him speak,
Speaker 2: he's just he's inspiring, you know. And I hate to
Speaker 2: draw a parallel with Ronald Reagan, but every time Reagan spoke,
Speaker 2: you know, the great communicator, you felt good. He felt
Speaker 2: good about the country, He felt good about what he
Speaker 2: was having to say. He was always uplifting, he had
Speaker 2: positive things to say. That's Ramaswami, without question. And he
Speaker 2: spoke without even looking at a note for I don't know,
Speaker 2: twenty minutes or so, and out why all his policies,
Speaker 2: his strategies, his future for Ohio, which is all bright, shiny,
Speaker 2: you know, everything's going to be great, and what an
Speaker 2: inspiring guy he is. And it was just it was
Speaker 2: great being there. I hated to have to bow out
Speaker 2: a little early, but I do get up early, so
Speaker 2: I bailed. I don't know, it was like eight thirty
Speaker 2: or something. The event wasn't over yet. But to everybody
Speaker 2: in Warren County, what a wonderful audience, What a great
Speaker 2: group of people. The Bikers for Trump folks were there,
Speaker 2: all these motorcycle enthusiasts who support Donald Trump, and I
Speaker 2: was invited to us to go out on rides with them.
Speaker 2: So I got to meet those guys and I'm looking
Speaker 2: forward to taking a ride or two with them over
Speaker 2: the summertime. So made some new friends, met some you know,
Speaker 2: Frank le Rose was there and gave him a hard
Speaker 2: time because he basically stole my thunder introducing Ramaswambi, because
Speaker 2: you know, I had all these notes prepared on Promisami's
Speaker 2: background and the of the books he's written, and Frank
Speaker 2: took care of that. When he was speaking, That's okay,
Speaker 2: But I didn't manage to get a few points in.
Speaker 2: And I just I felt great about being invited, and
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's like being with an entire room
Speaker 2: full of friends. You Warren County folks, man, I'm telling
Speaker 2: you you got it all together. I even recounted the
Speaker 2: story about my wife after the November election, when the
Speaker 2: Hamilton kind of returns came in. She's like, we need
Speaker 2: to leave Hamilton County. And I looked out in the room.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking Warden County. Maybe, yeah, exactly. So anyway, wonderful event.
Speaker 2: Although and the only reason I'm explain this only because
Speaker 2: when I pulled into the Manor House driveway, you know,
Speaker 2: the leads to the Manor House where the event was
Speaker 2: taking place of right off Mason Montgomery Road. There are
Speaker 2: protesters out there. I don't know about maybe twenty five thirty.
Speaker 2: I didn't count them. I didn't read the signs that
Speaker 2: they were holding, but you know, and I came in,
Speaker 2: I said, are those people protesting? Everyone was like yeah.
Speaker 2: And vv Robinson. I mean I actually went out and
Speaker 2: spoke with him, which I thought was a good thing.
Speaker 2: And I can't got the impression that they didn't realize
Speaker 2: why they were out there. But as I pointed out
Speaker 2: to the audience, it's Thursday at five pm. What are
Speaker 2: you doing at Thursday at five pm? You know, I'm
Speaker 2: my children have grown, but you know, I'm thinking about
Speaker 2: sitting down with the family and having dinner and under
Speaker 2: no circumstance in my entire life, and I've been political
Speaker 2: since I think the age of sixteen. Juck Barkholtz, you're
Speaker 2: out there. Thank you very much for encouraging me and
Speaker 2: my dad. God bless my dad, because of course my
Speaker 2: politics came from my dad and our dinner table discussions
Speaker 2: about politics, which quite often pissed my sister off. But
Speaker 2: I had never considered going to a protest. If Democrats
Speaker 2: are having a meeting, if they have a support for,
Speaker 2: like some candidate they want to elect an office, I mean,
Speaker 2: I am not getting off of my chair. I am
Speaker 2: not interrupting my daily routine. I am not going to
Speaker 2: go stand out in front of a roadway with a sign.
Speaker 2: What's the point You're not going to convince anyone that's
Speaker 2: driving in that you did? Oh well, I read a
Speaker 2: song and I'm going to give up on the war
Speaker 2: and a Republican party, and I'm not going to attend
Speaker 2: the Lincoln Reagan dinner because of what you're saying. And
Speaker 2: I don't know what point they were trying to make,
Speaker 2: but the point I came across is that they have
Speaker 2: absolutely nothing better to do in their lives. With the
Speaker 2: standby road where with a stupid sign saying you know,
Speaker 2: Trump fascist or something. And again, you know you're driving
Speaker 2: down the road, I'm paying attention to the road, I'm
Speaker 2: minding traffic. I'm pulling into the driveway because you know,
Speaker 2: I don't spend a lot of time at the manor house.
Speaker 2: I want to make sure I'm at the right place.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna stop and like, let me see, let
Speaker 2: me let me read what's on your signs, which is
Speaker 2: why I had to go in and ask people were
Speaker 2: they in fact protesting what's going on in here today?
Speaker 2: Which was well, the Lincoln Reagan dinner had some great
Speaker 2: speakers there, and of course keynote speaker vivig Ramiswamy, who,
Speaker 2: of course, if they listened to what he had to say,
Speaker 2: they probably would have been inspired about the future of
Speaker 2: the state of Ohio under his leadership, which will begin
Speaker 2: next November after he's elected.
Speaker 1: Anyway, you know.
Speaker 2: Whatever, I just I felt, you know, on some level,
Speaker 2: I felt kind of sorry for him. Thursday at five pm,
Speaker 2: and they were on a timetable too. I think somebody
Speaker 2: else had joked about that they looking at their watches.
Speaker 2: We're supposed to be here for two hours or an
Speaker 2: hour and a half, and that's what we're being paid
Speaker 2: for or something.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Anyway, I'm sorry, it is Friday.
Speaker 2: I'm in a good mood. I want to hear from
Speaker 2: you if you got something to say. Five one, three, seven,
Speaker 2: four nine fifty five hundred eight hundred eight two three talk.
Speaker 2: Let's do the rundown. It is Tech Friday. Dave Hatter
Speaker 2: coming up at six thirty. Love talking with Dave today
Speaker 2: in the Orwell Report, a car exploit allows you to
Speaker 2: spy on drivers in real time. Okay, New York police
Speaker 2: departments sending drones to the sites of nine to one
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Speaker 2: the Tech Friday Report, the RWORL Report. Troy Day they
Speaker 2: Trust in Valor program. It's a program for veterans and
Speaker 2: first responders. So he'll join the program at seven o'clock
Speaker 2: to talk about that. You know, I love my first
Speaker 2: responders and my veteran friends out there, so Troy Day
Speaker 2: will give us the trust in Valid rundown. Daniel Davis
Speaker 2: Deep Dive couldn't get him on Tuesday. Do technical difficulties Today?
Speaker 2: We get him back, and I saw NATO SAMs the
Speaker 2: United States involvement. We're talking about troop deployment, peacekeeping troops
Speaker 2: in the event there is a negotiated peace deal. I
Speaker 2: guess they feel the need to have some presence there
Speaker 2: of troops, although it's widely noted that since they have
Speaker 2: sat on their hands and not done anything by way
Speaker 2: of funding their own various militaries and all these European
Speaker 2: Union in NATO countries while allowing the United States taxpayers
Speaker 2: to basically handle their defense for the past I don't know,
Speaker 2: fifty years plus, they don't have any military resources or
Speaker 2: troops necessarily not as many is they would need to
Speaker 2: fund and manage the troop levels too, I guess ensure
Speaker 2: whatever piece deal that's reached is upheld. Well, that's what
Speaker 2: we get, Daniel Davis. So Daniel Davis and I will
Speaker 2: talk about that. Captain Douglas Ernest will join the program
Speaker 2: at eight o'clock. The Spirit of a True Patriot The
Speaker 2: Inspiring Story of Retired to Captain Douglas j Ernest, So
Speaker 2: he'll be on at eight o'clock to talk about that book.
Speaker 2: And then military pastor David Scarlett with his book all
Speaker 2: for his glory. The near death experience of a modern
Speaker 2: day job. That'll be at eight thirty. So interesting and
Speaker 2: fun rundown this morning, and great topics to talk about.
Speaker 2: We may see the end of daylight saving time. I
Speaker 2: know the Democrats and Republicans have been sitting down actually
Speaker 2: talking about that, and I welcome whatever resolution they get,
Speaker 2: as long as we don't change the clocks anymore. Let's see.
Speaker 2: There's just a multitude of different stories I got in
Speaker 2: front of me. But since it is five point fifteen,
Speaker 2: I'll pause and we'll give you an update on more
Speaker 2: information from DOGE. I guess the protesters probably angry at
Speaker 2: Elon Musk, but people who haven't even been born yet
Speaker 2: have been filing jobless claims. Okay, that among other new
Speaker 2: revelations from the Department of Government Efficiency, which apparently will
Speaker 2: continue even after Elon Musk leaves. Thank you to the
Speaker 2: Trump administration for creating the concept and for bringing to
Speaker 2: our attention, generally and collectively speaking, Republicans, Democrats, independence, communist, socialists,
Speaker 2: and all political stripes the insanity and waste of government
Speaker 2: don't go away.
Speaker 1: I'd be right back about krc DE Talk Station. Have
Speaker 1: to try.
Speaker 2: A little motorhead and get you out of bed, as
Speaker 2: his tradition, money talent.
Speaker 1: Thanking Sean for pumping up the jam there.
Speaker 2: Let us see here, I wanted to get to this
Speaker 2: doughs thing real quick. And it's you know again, within
Speaker 2: the context of people protesting Elon Musk, Evil Elon Musk
Speaker 2: former the Savior of the planet. With his electric vehicles
Speaker 2: that don't commit any carbon or pollutants. He invented rocket
Speaker 2: ships that can land themselves like a nineteen fifties science
Speaker 2: fiction movie, employees hundreds of thousands of people. He rescued
Speaker 2: astronauts from outer space, and he didn't do it personally.
Speaker 2: But you know, he's a brilliant businessman. He's a brilliant
Speaker 2: man himself. But he assembled a team of geniuses who
Speaker 2: effectively run these countries or these companies. And that's what
Speaker 2: he's trying to turn the government into an efficient, well
Speaker 2: oiled machine. Somebody's got to do it. It's respect for
Speaker 2: your labor. Ultimately, the taxpayer dollars that you sent to Washington,
Speaker 2: and they just don't give a crap about how they
Speaker 2: spend them. They're not interested in keeping the and minding
Speaker 2: the bottom line. Because they don't have to mind that
Speaker 2: they don't create something, they don't you know, build, or
Speaker 2: they don't provide goods or services that you and I
Speaker 2: would consume that will be profitable. They subsist on your
Speaker 2: labor with zero obligation like a fiduciary obligation to properly
Speaker 2: spend it and mind the store. So what do we
Speaker 2: find out when doach comes in, they start looking around
Speaker 2: and like, holy crap. So here's the latest release. Department
Speaker 2: of Government Efficiency posted serve unemployment insurance claims since twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: They found individuals under the age of five as well
Speaker 2: as over the age of one hundred and fifteen, claiming
Speaker 2: millions of dollars in benefits. This is based upon an
Speaker 2: initial underscore of the word because I'm sure there are
Speaker 2: more revelations to come. Survey of Unemployment Insurance Claims again
Speaker 2: since twenty twenty, revealing the twenty eight thousand individuals between
Speaker 2: the ages of one and five.
Speaker 1: Pre K through twelve.
Speaker 2: Collected two hundred and fifty four million dollars in benefits,
Speaker 2: and men go, well, you know, government spends billions and
Speaker 2: billions every single day. I don't care. This goes back
Speaker 2: to the whole point. Mind the pennies, the dollars, mind themselves.
Speaker 2: Twenty four thousand, five hundred individuals over the age of
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifteen claim fifty nine million dollars in benefits.
Speaker 2: And if that's not bad enough, the real shocker in
Speaker 2: this seven hundred individuals, and I use the term loosely
Speaker 2: because they don't exist yet. Seven hundred individuals with birth
Speaker 2: dates fifteen years in the future claims sixty nine million
Speaker 2: dollars in benefits court to the release from the Department
Speaker 2: of Government Efficiency. In one case, someone with a birth
Speaker 2: date in twenty one p. Fifty four claim forty one
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. So all those you know there's aborted babies
Speaker 2: out there that the left wing loves to talk about.
Speaker 2: They're claiming unemployment insurance court to the Elon Musk state.
Speaker 2: But your tax dollars are going to pay fraudulent unemployment
Speaker 2: claims for fake people born in the future. Sure, this
Speaker 2: is so crazy that I had to read it several
Speaker 2: times before it sank in. He continued. The oldest living
Speaker 2: American is one hundred and fourteen years old, so it's
Speaker 2: safe to say that anyone one hundred and fifteen or
Speaker 2: older is collecting unemployment due to being dead? No sanity
Speaker 2: check for impossibly young or impossibly old people for unemployment insurance.
Speaker 2: You see what I'm talking about here, something that's so
Speaker 2: easy to figure out. You know, we have maybe outdated,
Speaker 2: antiquated computer systems that are dealing with these various claims
Speaker 2: in these various administrations. But how difficult do you think
Speaker 2: it could possibly be? I mean, you call interest it
Speaker 2: Dave Hatterill come over and figure this crap out, and
Speaker 2: probably about five minutes. Do we have anybody in the
Speaker 2: system that has a birthday that makes them older than
Speaker 2: the oldest living human being in the Yeah, we've got
Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of them.
Speaker 1: Well let's stop that from happening.
Speaker 2: Labor Secretary Lori Chavez d Raymer said, another incredible discovery
Speaker 2: by the DOGE team finding nearly four hundred million dollars
Speaker 2: in fraudulent unemployment payments. We will catch these thieves and
Speaker 2: keep working to root out egregious fraud. Accountability is here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I want to see some serious prosecutions on this. I
Speaker 2: want to see people locked up. I want examples made
Speaker 2: and to everybody behind the scenes working in these various
Speaker 2: departments over the years. Where in the hell have you been.
Speaker 2: Why did it take the reelection of Donald Trump and
Speaker 2: the creation of the Department of Governmental Efficiency?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: I mean, and look what a short period of time.
Speaker 2: It's only been since January that they started doing their work.
Speaker 2: And look at all that we have learned since January.
Speaker 2: Joe Biden is sleep at the wheel. His administration obviously
Speaker 2: didn't lift a finger. And listen, We'll go back to
Speaker 2: prior administrations, including the former Trump administration. And I know
Speaker 2: he had a lot on his plate. They kept him
Speaker 2: in court most of the time. He was fighting impeachment
Speaker 2: hearings left and right, and all the other revelations that
Speaker 2: were going on. We had a lot on our plate.
Speaker 2: But this problem, this seemingly easily solvable problem, has been
Speaker 2: going on, probably for decades. Your labor wasted and a
Speaker 2: wide open door, an opportunity for fraud existing with a
Speaker 2: seemingly simple solution. Let's just check the data and see
Speaker 2: if we've got dead people on the rolls. Let's just
Speaker 2: check the data to see if someone who hasn't been
Speaker 2: born yet is receiving unemployment benefits. Five twenty six fifty
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Speaker 2: request for three hundred and fifty million dollars this after
Speaker 2: the they approved the budget in Columbus the other day.
Speaker 2: Oh whoops, wait a minute, can we have our slice.
Speaker 1: I'll be right back.
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Speaker 1: Sean.
Speaker 2: Well, it's going to the pund so here before we
Speaker 2: get to the local stories, Pete, welcome to the program. In
Speaker 2: a very Happy Friday to you, sir.
Speaker 3: Thanks Brian and the subject of incarcerating all these people
Speaker 3: that are stealing us blind. It costs US thirty six
Speaker 3: thousand dollars a year to incarcerate somebody. I think they
Speaker 3: should have a program and give them a choice of
Speaker 3: house arrests or incarceration. But with the house arrest comes
Speaker 3: an ankle bracelet where they can only go to work
Speaker 3: and then take a percentage of what they earn a
Speaker 3: payback what they owe, and if they violate the terms
Speaker 3: of that, then they do get the incarceration, but get
Speaker 3: the money back for our country instead of paying out thirty.
Speaker 4: Six thousand dollars, you're to keep these.
Speaker 3: Plows and also leave them with a felony hanging over them.
Speaker 3: They could get eliminated if they pay everything back and
Speaker 3: stay within the program.
Speaker 2: Well, it's an idea. All I know is is ankle
Speaker 2: monitor bracelet things don't really work very well, and you
Speaker 2: have to pay people to monitor them. And can you
Speaker 2: imagine the thousands of people that would have to be
Speaker 2: monitored with ankle bracelets. The resources necessary to do that
Speaker 2: alone would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Listen, I
Speaker 2: understand the cost of prison, but you know prison is
Speaker 2: a terrible place. It's a living hell. It is an
Speaker 2: absolute nightmare. You wouldn't want to be there. One of
Speaker 2: the reasons I don't believe in the death penalty. I
Speaker 2: don't mind paying thirty six thousand dollars years in an American
Speaker 2: taxpayer to keep someone in a living hell if they're
Speaker 2: deserving in the death penalty, because I don't believe the
Speaker 2: state should be able to take someone's life. But they're
Speaker 2: in there for the rest of their life, and every
Speaker 2: day they wake up realizing they're never getting out. That
Speaker 2: to me is hell on earth. And maybe it's worth
Speaker 2: the American taxpayer dollars to put them through hell on
Speaker 2: earth for stealing from us.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't have any easy solutions of those problems, quite honestly,
Speaker 2: but you know what think about being in prison, especially
Speaker 2: if you're a child in mo Lester. Anyway, thank you
Speaker 2: WCPO for reporting. I'll give you props to let us
Speaker 2: see here. Dan Monk and paula Christian Since an Bengals
Speaker 2: in Hemon County asking Ohio lawmakers daylight and dollars short
Speaker 2: for the ask, it's been three hundred and fifty million
Speaker 2: dollars on renovations the pay Corpse Stadium. As they write
Speaker 2: Dan and Paula, the surprise request comes after the House
Speaker 2: already passed the budget, which gave the Cleveland Brown six
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars of state bonds to build the domed stadium. Anyway,
Speaker 2: the joint request asked for roughly forty two percent of
Speaker 2: an eight hundred and thirty million dollars pay Course stadium renovation, which,
Speaker 2: without citation or authority, they say, predicted to trigger five
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars in new investment at the Bank's entertainment district. Okay,
Speaker 2: where did that figure come from? But and there's always
Speaker 2: a big butt around but Senate Financial Jerry Sereno said
Speaker 2: that no one from the Bengals or Hamilton County had
Speaker 2: reached out to him about the project. This would be
Speaker 2: the man responsible for budgeting up in the Upper Columbus
Speaker 2: Governor Mike Dwine also described as surprise at the request.
Speaker 2: He met with then Hamilton County Commissioner president of Alisheriz
Speaker 2: last summer about stadium funding, but said he never heard
Speaker 2: anything further or any specifics on the proposal.
Speaker 1: Quote.
Speaker 2: I've not seen anybody in the state legislator put this forward.
Speaker 2: Their discussion with me was a general deon. I got
Speaker 2: the impression that they in the Bengals, had not reached
Speaker 2: any kind of agreement. Governor de Wine speaking with WCPO
Speaker 2: oh really oh, my House Finance Committee Chairman Brian Stewart
Speaker 2: back in or April. First, it's not an accident. This
Speaker 2: amendment is designed to refer to the Cleveland Browns proposal only.
Speaker 2: That will be the amendment in the budget which only
Speaker 2: qualifies counties with at least one million dollars to get
Speaker 2: any money for sports complexes and facilities. House Finance Committee
Speaker 2: Chairman Brian Stewart, Ashville Republican said the Bengals never asked
Speaker 2: to be written into the bill. Quote, we've not received
Speaker 2: an asked about any other proposal. Okay, that may be coming,
Speaker 2: but it was not on my desk at the time
Speaker 2: this budget is done. You feel we are incompetent hands
Speaker 2: here in Hamilton County in connection with a course stadium
Speaker 2: five thirty six. If you five carsen talk station, don't
Speaker 2: go away, William, I will be happy to take your
Speaker 2: call as soon as.
Speaker 1: We return and stick around.
Speaker 2: Of course we can even when Joe's not here. Jeffrey
Speaker 2: I know you're happy. I have a listener, Jeffrey, you
Speaker 2: always chimes in, can't wait till five forty. I got
Speaker 2: my base out. Let's go to the phone before I
Speaker 2: get to the stack of stupid. I've got a couple
Speaker 2: of callers online, which I always enjoy. Let's start with William,
Speaker 2: who was first in line. Tom hang on, William, Welcome
Speaker 2: to the program and happy Friday to you.
Speaker 5: Sir Bryan.
Speaker 6: You make so much good points. But the thing it
Speaker 6: really gives me a buzzaboo is that these lawyers are
Speaker 6: I mean not lawyers. I'm sorry, the judges of Keith
Speaker 6: interfering with the progress of us moving forward. I mean,
Speaker 6: there's got to be some way that this can stop.
Speaker 2: Well, we need better informed voters. If the majority of
Speaker 2: folks want tough being, want people to be tough on
Speaker 2: law enforcement, as opposed to these woke lawyers. These you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know what is in the name of social justice.
Speaker 2: You and I are responsible for electing them. And when
Speaker 2: we see that they you know, low bond or no
Speaker 2: bond for violent criminals, not looking out for society. They
Speaker 2: give zero prison sentence for people who've been convicted going
Speaker 2: through due process beyond a reasonable doubt, and yet they
Speaker 2: are given a slap on the hand. Then we need
Speaker 2: to do something about it. We have no one to
Speaker 2: blame but ourselves. Under the current system, all the way
Speaker 2: judges are are elected. So you're right, I'm not arguing
Speaker 2: with you, but it's our own fault societies.
Speaker 6: Thank you there, Brien, there's no argument. But the thing
Speaker 6: is is that the but the Biden administration, they've seen
Speaker 6: what's coming. I mean, these people seeing what's coming down
Speaker 6: the road and they elected like five hundred and fifty.
Speaker 6: I may be wrong, but these judge Oh.
Speaker 1: You're talking about judicial appointments.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Every administration gets the opportunity to appoint judges and
Speaker 2: you and I have no control over that. But as voters,
Speaker 2: we do have control over who's president and who we elect.
Speaker 2: And of course under the Trump administration, you're not going
Speaker 2: to get a bunch of woke judges appointed to the
Speaker 2: federal bench. Once they're there, they're there. I mean, elections
Speaker 2: have consequences and they have lasting consequences. Look at the
Speaker 2: makeup of the Supreme Court. Nothing pisses the liberals off
Speaker 2: as much as the makeup of the Supreme Court and
Speaker 2: they're angry and they know elections have consequences as well.
Speaker 2: But fortunately the opportunity to appoint Supreme Court justice came
Speaker 2: up under yah Republican administration. So while you have a
Speaker 2: goofy sort of makeup, it's still a five to four
Speaker 2: most of the time conservative leaning court, which means strict
Speaker 2: constitutional interpretation as opposed to judicial activism, which is basically
Speaker 2: I mean, at least on one levels, a lot of
Speaker 2: us to secure and maintain our Second Amendment right to
Speaker 2: keep in bare arms, among other decisions that have come
Speaker 2: out of this Supreme Court, you know, pairing back of
Speaker 2: the administrative state by virtue of the for example, the
Speaker 2: West Virginia versus EPA decision, No, you can't call a
Speaker 2: tablespoon of water on private property a navigable stream. You know,
Speaker 2: there's been some great decisions. Had we as an American
Speaker 2: population gone different direction and not elected Trump during the
Speaker 2: first term, we would not have the makeup of the
Speaker 2: Supreme Court, and we would have a federal government that
Speaker 2: would override and trample upon our rights even more than
Speaker 2: they're already doing. You know, I mean, what more can
Speaker 2: you say about the process. This is the way our
Speaker 2: country is run. It's the way it works, and we
Speaker 2: deal with the consequences of bad decisions. Joe Biden being
Speaker 2: elected bad decision. I know some say it was stolen,
Speaker 2: whether or not we ended up with him. Look what happened.
Speaker 2: Five forty five if you five KR City talk station,
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Speaker 2: and jumping over to the phones. Tom's been waiting, Tom,
Speaker 2: thanks for holding over the break.
Speaker 1: Welcome in the morning shown Brian.
Speaker 8: So, I got a question for you. When you go
Speaker 8: to sleep at night, do you leave every light on
Speaker 8: in your house all night long, all year round?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 8: Okay, So these Bengals owners, I don't know the county pays,
Speaker 8: leaves those lights on that stadium all night long, every
Speaker 8: day of the year. Really want to waste the money.
Speaker 2: I'll grant you that I was not aware that that
Speaker 2: was the case. I really was not. I remember the
Speaker 2: old days, remember the energy crisis in the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 2: Prior to that, they used to do the light up
Speaker 2: Cincinnati nights was you know, across the country they do
Speaker 2: light up Chicago, light up New York, and people would
Speaker 2: leave the lights on intentionally. And then we had an
Speaker 2: energy crisis, and then it was beat make sure you
Speaker 2: turned the lights off. There were little signs above the switches,
Speaker 2: turn the lights off, save energy. So yeah, I think
Speaker 2: it's an important thing to do. And I don't know
Speaker 2: why they leave them on. Maybe it's just to make
Speaker 2: the skyline look prettier, but yeah, taxpayer expense, yeah, and
Speaker 2: light pollution. Good point, David, Welcome to the Morning Show.
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling on a happy Friday to you, sir.
Speaker 4: Thanks to you.
Speaker 7: Brian.
Speaker 6: Hey.
Speaker 9: I was talking about the judges previous collar before the
Speaker 9: time there, and I understand you made them. You made
Speaker 9: them when I was thinking that once they're appointed, there's.
Speaker 7: Nothing good about it.
Speaker 4: This is how it is.
Speaker 9: I guess you can't tire them like I think you
Speaker 9: can't some judges, but may you're.
Speaker 10: Not certain judges and the way you said.
Speaker 9: We elect the judges and stuff for or no matters
Speaker 9: of dinner and prow to repose. And so my point
Speaker 9: is it seems like that even though I guess there's
Speaker 9: no black and white when it comes to law, because
Speaker 9: they judge depending on his I guess, uh political way
Speaker 9: of thinking. Uh, that's how you just want to think
Speaker 9: about it. And uh, it's not going to be. I
Speaker 9: don't think it's real fair. I don't think there's no
Speaker 9: such thing as a blind justice anymore.
Speaker 2: Well, you obviously didn't call looking for an argument. You know,
Speaker 2: there are so many law schools that teach and preach
Speaker 2: this idea of the you know, uh, the sort of
Speaker 2: judicial activism as if a judge sitting on the bench
Speaker 2: is in a position to sort of legislate from the bench,
Speaker 2: that is not their role. Their role is to interpret
Speaker 2: the law within the confines of the Constitution United States
Speaker 2: of America or the States, or in the case of
Speaker 2: criminal law, dispense justice and of course sentence within the
Speaker 2: confines of the sentencing regulations. I mean, at least those
Speaker 2: are defined very clearly. You can be light on sentencing
Speaker 2: or strict on sentencings, but they come within you know,
Speaker 2: written guidelines. But as far as judicial activism, it's concerned
Speaker 2: a lot of people believe the Constitution is this living, breeding, evolving,
Speaker 2: you know, capable of being molded into whatever current reality.
Speaker 2: And going back to the Second Amendment thing, that was
Speaker 2: the point of that that very important decision that was
Speaker 2: handed down. What what were the found what was on
Speaker 2: the laws, what were the what was the realities of
Speaker 2: the right to keep in bear arms At the time
Speaker 2: the Founding fathers enshrined the Second Amendment right to keep
Speaker 2: in bear arms, very few restrictions. I mean, you get
Speaker 2: have a twelve year old with a rifle and that
Speaker 2: was aoka and understood and perfectly abceptible. Back then, were
Speaker 2: there issues with you know, young people maybe discharging firearms
Speaker 2: or going crazy with them running them. I imagine they're
Speaker 2: probably were because there's always been crazy people and accidents
Speaker 2: have always happened. But they took that into consideration. So
Speaker 2: a strict construction is a properly within the confines and
Speaker 2: the meaning of the Constitution says, listen, you have the
Speaker 2: right to keep the bear arms. Or if, for example,
Speaker 2: it's not within the constitution some federal power that they
Speaker 2: seek to control our mind, our lives is not within
Speaker 2: the powers vested in the federal government, then I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: it's extra constitutional, ergo fundamentally illegal. Now some liberal person
Speaker 2: with this broad interpretation of this living, breathing constitution and
Speaker 2: documents say well, you know, well it isn't within the
Speaker 2: confines of the Constitution, and it's not expressly written there
Speaker 2: I can determine that, and then they'll come up with
Speaker 2: some reasoning to say that it's a okay.
Speaker 1: They teach that stuff in law school. You have strict
Speaker 1: construction is.
Speaker 2: You know, law professors, and you got these liberal people
Speaker 2: who say you can pretty much say anything from the bench.
Speaker 2: They're out there and they're everywhere. You need to keep
Speaker 2: that in mind when you're voting, and quite frankly, when
Speaker 2: it comes to federal judges and lifetime appointments, unless they
Speaker 2: do something that's illegal or that is subject them to impeachment,
Speaker 2: and that's few and far between, you're stuck with them.
Speaker 2: Fivefty seven, fifty five KARSD Talk Station. I'll be right
Speaker 2: back after the news six o five, a fifty five
Speaker 2: KARSD talk station. A very happy Friday to you, Brian Thomas.
Speaker 2: Looking forward to the bottom of the hour as I
Speaker 2: always do every Friday at six thirty Tech Friday with
Speaker 2: Dave had Or. Today, a car exploit allows you to
Speaker 2: spy on drivers in real time. That's creepy new or
Speaker 2: police department sending drones to nine one one calls. That's
Speaker 2: creepy and also creepy. The latest tech car technology is
Speaker 2: starting to drive people nuts. So or we'll report bottom
Speaker 2: of the hour Friday with Dave at or one hour
Speaker 2: from Roy Davis joins the program the Trust and Valor program.
Speaker 1: We're going to learn all about that.
Speaker 2: It's a program that is designed for veterans and first
Speaker 2: responders involving horses.
Speaker 1: Daniel Davis deep dive.
Speaker 2: Daniel couldn't join the program on Tuesday to a technical difficulty,
Speaker 2: so today we get Daniel Davis probably giving us a
Speaker 2: further update on Russia and Ukraine, including the NATO countries
Speaker 2: meeting the other day to talk about troop deployment in
Speaker 2: the event that's some negotiated peace deal. The logistic on
Speaker 2: that one is kind of a comical, given that the
Speaker 2: European Union pretty much gave up on funding their military
Speaker 2: or building up arms or the ability to defend themselves
Speaker 2: in the absence of the United States for the past
Speaker 2: multiple decades. So anywhile, I mean, most of them are
Speaker 2: kind of stepping up to the plate now realizing that
Speaker 2: they're in a precarious position in the absence of the
Speaker 2: United States defense dollars and troop presents. They can't defend themselves,
Speaker 2: and that comes at a great cost of the American taxpayer.
Speaker 2: Captain Douglas Earnest the book. At eight o'clock, we'll talk
Speaker 2: about the spirit of a true Patriot, the inspiring storre
Speaker 2: of retired Captain Douglas Ernst Ernest and military pastor David
Speaker 2: Scarlett joins the program at eight thirty to talk about
Speaker 2: his book All for His Glory, The Near Death Experience of.
Speaker 1: A Modern Day Job.
Speaker 2: Apparently died and came back five on three, seven, four,
Speaker 2: nine fifty, five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to
Speaker 2: three talk pound five fifty on AT and T phones.
Speaker 2: I may have to get into the stack of stupid
Speaker 2: since I didn't do any stack of stupid in the
Speaker 2: last hour, since I had phone calls, which is always
Speaker 2: a preference. But I have to go back to this
Speaker 2: two things. I started the program first with a thanks
Speaker 2: to the Warren kind of Republican Party for allowing me
Speaker 2: to be there, and actually introduced the next governor of
Speaker 2: the state of Ohio, Vivek Ramaswami. Brilliant man. He is
Speaker 2: get in touch with his campaign. Help him out. He's
Speaker 2: so far ahead in terms of the primaries. I don't
Speaker 2: I think the other candidates, as decent as you may
Speaker 2: think they are, should probably drop out. He's got more
Speaker 2: endorsements than you can shake a stick at already, and
Speaker 2: the election isn't until next November. But brilliant, dynamic, and
Speaker 2: husiastic speaker. And again I'll go back to my Reagan analogy.
Speaker 2: When you hear Vivek speak, you get a real sense
Speaker 2: of optimism about the future of the state of Ohio,
Speaker 2: a true sense of optimism. And he's got great ideas
Speaker 2: for the state. So I think he's going to be
Speaker 2: a wonderful governor. And thanks to everybody that came to
Speaker 2: the Warren County event last night, what a fantastic time.
Speaker 2: And again the protesters outside, what the hell was your point?
Speaker 2: I mean, I really don't get it. Obviously, you have
Speaker 2: way too much time on your hands. Spend some time
Speaker 2: with your family, go it's dinner time, be at home,
Speaker 2: cook yourself up a meal, and spend some time with
Speaker 2: family or friends. Or maybe they don't have family or
Speaker 2: friends and they have nothing better to do than stand
Speaker 2: outside with a stupid sign that nobody read. Because we're
Speaker 2: busy driving into the parking lot and avoiding running into someone,
Speaker 2: because we don't want to stop in the middle of
Speaker 2: the road and look at your stupid signs.
Speaker 1: Ah.
Speaker 2: Anyhow, I have newer listeners and say o'clock hour, that
Speaker 2: mean this is going to sound redundant from the five
Speaker 2: o'clock hour. But this whole revelation from DOES yesterday is
Speaker 2: just mind boggling, revealing the absolute stupidity of our federal
Speaker 2: government when comes to mining our taxpayer dollars. Something as
Speaker 2: simplistic as looking through the system and figuring out if
Speaker 2: there were people that are dead or not even born
Speaker 2: yet are getting unemployment benefits. So, I mean, we've dealt
Speaker 2: with the Social Security Department and the problems and they
Speaker 2: ferreed it out that unemployment insurance claim since twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Just twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Forward, twenty four thousan five hundred people over the age
Speaker 2: of one hundred and fifteen years old claim fifty nine
Speaker 2: million dollars in benefits fraud much twenty eight thousand people
Speaker 2: between the ages of one and five claimed unemployment benefits
Speaker 2: to the two hundred and fifty four million dollars, and
Speaker 2: even crazier and seven people with birth dates in the
Speaker 2: future over fifteen years in the future, including one with
Speaker 2: a birth date of twenty one to fifty four that
Speaker 2: claimed forty one thousand benefits, but these collective nine thou
Speaker 2: seven hundred people that haven't been born yet claimed sixty
Speaker 2: nine million dollars. According to DOJE, California, New York, and
Speaker 2: Massachusetts accounted for most of these improper claims, totaling three
Speaker 2: hundred and five million in unemployment benefits. Additionally, they said
Speaker 2: California accounted for sixty eight percent of the unemployment benefits
Speaker 2: paid to parolees identified the customs, identified by the Customs
Speaker 2: and Border Patrol, on the terrorist watch list, or with
Speaker 2: criminal records.
Speaker 1: Have fun going to.
Speaker 2: Work today realizing that this is the kind of crap
Speaker 2: that goes on with the federal government and its refusal
Speaker 2: to pay any attention whatsoever to how they're spending your money,
Speaker 2: and you're going to protest them.
Speaker 1: This is the kind of thing.
Speaker 2: It needs to be repeated over and over and over
Speaker 2: again to these idiots that stand around with signs saying
Speaker 2: Elon Musk is a Nazi or something.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't make this up.
Speaker 2: And thanks to WCPS reporting this, this could come from
Speaker 2: the stack. Is stupid regarding his pay court stadium upgrade. Again,
Speaker 2: props to Dan Monk and paula Christian for writing about
Speaker 2: this and providing a little bit more details than any
Speaker 2: of the other news outlets. I reviewed this story over
Speaker 2: the since I have Bengals and Hamilton Kenny asking Ohio
Speaker 2: lawmakers to spend three hundred and fifty million dollars for
Speaker 2: renovations to pay Corps after the House passed the budget
Speaker 2: the other day.
Speaker 1: Whoops.
Speaker 2: Of course that included six hundred million dollars in state
Speaker 2: bonds for the Cleveland brown so they can build their
Speaker 2: two point seven billion dollar mega complex, funded in large
Speaker 2: part on the Ohio taxpayer dollars. This joint request from
Speaker 2: the Bengals and Hamilton County asked the state for forty
Speaker 2: two percent of the eight hundred and thirty million dollars
Speaker 2: pay Course stadium renovation. And I love this. These fun
Speaker 2: facts are what makes it to stack a stupid story. Apparently,
Speaker 2: Senate Finance Committee or Senate Finance Chairman Jerry Sereno said
Speaker 2: that nobody from the Bengals or Hamilton County ever reached
Speaker 2: out to him about the request.
Speaker 1: You wonder what they were doing.
Speaker 2: I mean, this whole lease deal problem has been you know,
Speaker 2: something you could see from ten miles away, I mean
Speaker 2: from the moment the contract was signed.
Speaker 1: As bad as it was, you knew at this point
Speaker 1: in time was coming.
Speaker 2: You were gonna have to deal with the stadium upgrades.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to negotiate terms of conditions, and if
Speaker 2: it involved our elected body in Columbus, that you're gonna
Speaker 2: have to start working with them early in the process
Speaker 2: to maybe get the state dollars that you're now asking for.
Speaker 2: After the budget was passed, Governor of Wine apparently well
Speaker 2: described as surprise at the request. Last summer, he met
Speaker 2: with Alicia Reese, then Hamilton County Commissioned President, but he
Speaker 2: said he'd never heard anything further from her or any
Speaker 2: specifics of any proposal that was last summer. Speaking with WCPO,
Speaker 2: Dwine said in an interview quote, I've not seen anybody
Speaker 2: in the state legislature put this forward, meaning the request
Speaker 2: that they're asking for now. Their discussion with me was general.
Speaker 2: I got the impression that day and the Bengals had
Speaker 2: not reached any kind of agreement. Well, I suppose he's
Speaker 2: right on that, because my understanding they haven't reached an agreement.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Dwine, for his part, renewed his call for state lawmakers
Speaker 2: to pay for stadium projects wherever they may be, with
Speaker 2: a twenty percent increase on how sports betting tax. But
Speaker 2: that wasn't in the budget. What wasn't the budget specifically
Speaker 2: excluded anything involving the Bengals because the bond issue is
Speaker 2: limited to counties with at least one million people. Of course,
Speaker 2: Cuyahoga County meets that. Hamilton County does not because we
Speaker 2: don't have more than a million people in the county.
Speaker 2: So the ask itself is outside of the confines of
Speaker 2: what can even be asked for since it's a stadium
Speaker 2: project in a county that with less than a million people.
Speaker 2: And of course House Committee Chairman Brian Stewart told reporters
Speaker 2: back in April first the point of that one million
Speaker 2: people county requirement. This is not an accident, he said.
Speaker 2: This amendment is designed to refer to the Cleveland Browns
Speaker 2: proposal only. Man, the Cleveland Brown family must be really connected.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 11: I'm not much on speeches, but it's so gratifying to
Speaker 11: leave you wallowing in the mess you've made.
Speaker 1: You're screwed. Thank you, bike.
Speaker 2: Well played. Sean asked for a Republican going back again.
Speaker 2: House Finance Committee Chairman Brian Stewart quote, we've not received
Speaker 2: and asked about any other proposal, okay, meaning referring to
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns proposal. They had asked for it, They
Speaker 2: told them what they wanted. We got this two point
Speaker 2: seven billion dollar megacomplex dome stadium thing that we want
Speaker 2: to build the suburbs. Here it is, here's how much
Speaker 2: money we want. They had lobbyists lobbying for it, and
Speaker 2: obviously it worked really well. As for the Bengals project, quote,
Speaker 2: we've not received an asked about any other proposal. Okay.
Speaker 2: That may be coming, but it was not on my
Speaker 2: desk at the time. This budget is done.
Speaker 5: I want a dollar.
Speaker 2: Also reported by WACPO in this article, the Bengals don't
Speaker 2: have a state lobbyist at present. The Browns have five
Speaker 2: that according to the Ohio Lobbying Activity Center. Also report
Speaker 2: of the Bengals lost a key ally in the House
Speaker 2: this year when Republican Bill Sites retired. The Governor wouldn't
Speaker 2: say whether he would veto portions of the House budget
Speaker 2: if it isn't altered by the Senate, and that maybe
Speaker 2: the last leg upon which the Bengals stands is maybe
Speaker 2: a modification by the Senate. Dwayne said, I just want
Speaker 2: to make it very clear that we do not have
Speaker 2: this money. Of course, referring back to the tax that
Speaker 2: he wanted to impose on sports betting, we do not
Speaker 2: have this money. If he just bonded the money that
Speaker 2: the Browns want, that's a billion dollars over a pair
Speaker 2: to twenty five years, it's about forty two dollars or
Speaker 2: forty two to forty five million every year out of
Speaker 2: the budget. We do not have that money. We can't
Speaker 2: take it away from education. There's a pathway, but that's
Speaker 2: not the pathway. So clearly Governor to one is not
Speaker 2: happy about this provision either. And now the Bengals are
Speaker 2: going in a day late and a dollars short. For
Speaker 2: another ask, Charlie foxtrot comes to mind. My military friends
Speaker 2: know exactly what I'm talking about. If you don't get
Speaker 2: the joke, well then you can look up Charlie Foxtrott
Speaker 2: and find out for yourself. Because of course, the FCC
Speaker 2: does not allow me to say out loud what that
Speaker 2: means six seventeen, feel free to call five one, three, seven,
Speaker 2: four nine fifty eight hundred two three talk pound fly
Speaker 2: fifty on at and two phone six a fig about
Speaker 2: car CD Talk Nation. Very very very happy Friday, David, Yeah,
Speaker 2: extra special. As I segue into a week of vacation,
Speaker 2: Dan Carroll covering for me Monday through Thursday, with Kevin
Speaker 2: Gordon taking care of Friday, and thanks and advanced both
Speaker 2: those guys for let me sleep in taking a mental
Speaker 2: health week off, getting away from the insanity that I
Speaker 2: read about every single day. You know it really is.
Speaker 2: It can bear on you after a while, well positively okay,
Speaker 2: and recognizing again going back to Doge's work and the
Speaker 2: realization that we find out that hundreds of thousands, I
Speaker 2: can't remember the specific number of illegal immigrants ended up
Speaker 2: receiving Social Security numbers and actually voted in elections, which
Speaker 2: is illegal. The Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act cleared the
Speaker 2: House yesterday. Question mark whether it's going to get to
Speaker 2: the Senate. House voter in favor of the SAVE Act,
Speaker 2: which requires proof of citizensship to vote in federal elections.
Speaker 2: Vote two twenty to two oh eight. All Republicans that
Speaker 2: were there voted in support of the SAVE Act, only
Speaker 2: four Democrats And do you scratch your head and wonder
Speaker 2: about that election integrity anyway. SAVE Act amend's a national
Speaker 2: voter Registration Act in nineteen ninety three, requiring proof of
Speaker 2: US citizenship to registered to vote for federal elections. It
Speaker 2: lists several forms of valid identification to proof citizenship.
Speaker 1: Quote.
Speaker 2: A form of identification issued consistent with the requirements of
Speaker 2: the Real ID Act of two thousand and five that
Speaker 2: includes the applicant is a citizen of the United States,
Speaker 2: namely a valid US passport, US Military ID alongside a
Speaker 2: military record of service showing the applicant's place of birth
Speaker 2: was the United States, A valid government issued photo ID
Speaker 2: showcasing that the individual was born in the US birth
Speaker 2: certificate issued by a state. Chip Roy primary sponsor quote.
Speaker 2: Despite the ridiculous attacks and purposeful misinformation spread about the bill,
Speaker 2: and pleased to see that the House of Representatives once
Speaker 2: again passed the SAVE Act on a well he called
Speaker 2: it bipartisan basis, barely to ensure only US citizens vote
Speaker 2: in election. So I'd like to thanks Speaker Johnson, Chairman Steele,
Speaker 2: and Senator Mike Lee for partnering with me on this effort.
Speaker 2: In order to preserve this republic, we must uphold what
Speaker 2: it means to be able to vote in the United
Speaker 2: States elections. I'm grateful to my colleagues answer the call
Speaker 2: and pass the Save Act. Yeah me too. Election integrity.
Speaker 2: There's a whole lot more work to do, though. Stick
Speaker 2: around Tech Friday with Dave Hatter. We'll start out with
Speaker 2: a car exploit that allows you to spy on drivers
Speaker 2: in real time. Sounds creepy, probably will be. Things are
Speaker 2: usually creepy in the Tech Friday Report. For the nationally
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Speaker 2: you have computers and you may very well have problems,
Speaker 2: maybe not right now, but in the future. Because Davie
Speaker 2: you all the reasons why you will probably end up
Speaker 2: with problems and all the ways to avoid it. So
Speaker 2: get Dave and the team on your job to avoid
Speaker 2: them and give you best practices and ensure your systems
Speaker 2: are safe and scire. Welcome back to the morning show,
Speaker 2: Dave hat Or, love talking to you.
Speaker 5: Always good to be here, Brian. I feel the same way,
Speaker 5: and holpeful they're doing some good out there.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean also freaking people out. I didn't
Speaker 2: get the article because Joe's not here and it doesn't matter,
Speaker 2: but I know what the topic is. Tell us about
Speaker 2: this car exploit that allows you to spy on drivers
Speaker 2: in real time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is just one of many, I would say, Brian.
Speaker 5: You may recall we talked about this briefly the Mozilla
Speaker 5: privacy non included website and their expose of newer model cars.
Speaker 5: I think it was the end of twenty twenty three
Speaker 5: when it came out. But this is pointing out though.
Speaker 5: Just reiterate something you and I talk about all the time.
Speaker 5: The so called Internet of things.
Speaker 4: Aaka smart devices.
Speaker 5: You're smart coffee maker, your smart TV, a stat your doorbell,
Speaker 5: and now your car are vulnerable in the same way
Speaker 5: that your computers are because essentially everything is computed at right.
Speaker 5: It's got computer chips, and it's got software embedded in
Speaker 5: it that gives it the wile factor and cool functionality
Speaker 5: that people like, including your car. And you may recall, Brian,
Speaker 5: way back we talked about a Wired article where a
Speaker 5: reporter worked with two hackers and they were able to
Speaker 5: remotely control this jeep Jeep Grand Cherokee while the reporter
Speaker 5: was driving. They did all kinds of things to it
Speaker 5: caused a giant recall back in the day. And this
Speaker 5: is another illustration of this where in this case this
Speaker 5: is a third party pioneer head unit right, pioneered the
Speaker 5: people that.
Speaker 4: Make car stereo and stereo equipment.
Speaker 5: But they hackers, you know they're thankfully, Brian, there are
Speaker 5: good people out there, white hat hackers, trying to find
Speaker 5: vulnerabilities in these products, inform the manufacturers, get them fixed,
Speaker 5: and frankly, inform the public at large about why so
Speaker 5: many of these things are privacy and security dumpster buyers.
Speaker 2: Basically doing the job that the manufacturer should have done
Speaker 2: ahead of time to avoid this stuff from happening in
Speaker 2: the first place. As you always point out, they don't
Speaker 2: think about privacy and security when they're building these devices.
Speaker 2: They just rush to get the device out because it
Speaker 2: does something really cool, but failed to incorporate the requisite
Speaker 2: security measures in there.
Speaker 7: Excellent summary.
Speaker 5: Well, I was going to say almost the exact same thing,
Speaker 5: which is again, their whole privacy model or their whole
Speaker 5: business model on most of this IoT stuff is backwards.
Speaker 5: It's market share, speed to market ease, of use for
Speaker 5: the consumer, not privacy and security. And you know, at
Speaker 5: one time it would be bad if there was a
Speaker 5: buzz in software and.
Speaker 4: You could do your job.
Speaker 5: But now everything is that are connected. You have systems
Speaker 5: that interface with and if it's a manufacturer system control
Speaker 5: your car, which means your vehicle could potentially get hacked
Speaker 5: and be turned into a weapon.
Speaker 7: Of some sort.
Speaker 5: You and I have talked about that many times the
Speaker 5: pass and you know, I'm not the only person saying this.
Speaker 5: There are lots of people in the industry and security
Speaker 5: experts that are warning about this kind of thing. But
Speaker 5: in this case, the hackers went to a conference and
Speaker 5: demonstrated that they could chain together various flaws and the
Speaker 5: software inside this thing, and once they had access to it. Now, admittedly,
Speaker 5: you either have to get hotspot access to it or
Speaker 5: you have to have physical access to it, so it's
Speaker 5: not as easy as just and over the air exploit
Speaker 5: to this head unit. But you know, if you're tak
Speaker 5: it in for repairs, could it get hacked. Could someone
Speaker 5: get in your car, you know, perhaps a spurned spouse
Speaker 5: or lover. I mean, they lay all these things down
Speaker 5: in the article, but the bottom line is once it's
Speaker 5: been hacked. Yes, they can basically see who you're calling,
Speaker 5: they can watch you where you're driving, and do a
Speaker 5: variety of other things. Not nearly as bad as some
Speaker 5: of the manufacturer based systems that have been hacked, because
Speaker 5: you know, they interface directly with the systems of the car,
Speaker 5: the brakes, the engine, that sort of thing. So yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, before you go out and you change the
Speaker 5: electronics in your car nowadays, you know, I'm sure Brian,
Speaker 5: like me, your old enough ter day it's like, well,
Speaker 5: I'm going to upgrade the stereo of my car because
Speaker 5: the thing that came from the manufacturer is no good,
Speaker 5: right Delco.
Speaker 4: Yeah or something right, Yeah.
Speaker 5: And you didn't have to worry about these kind of
Speaker 5: things then, right, because you know it was just you know, or.
Speaker 1: Maybe just hold on one second. Explains something to me.
Speaker 2: First off, that people still replace they had units in
Speaker 2: their car. So that's that's the thing. I guess. That
Speaker 2: means you bought an older car that doesn't have one
Speaker 2: of those you know, built in wired up to the
Speaker 2: entire system sort of units. You buy a substitute unit
Speaker 2: from Pioneer. It's got a camera in it that records
Speaker 2: the inside of the automobile.
Speaker 5: Uh, some of them do because they want to give
Speaker 5: you a video capability, just like the stuff that's built
Speaker 5: into the car.
Speaker 1: Why in the hell would I want video of me
Speaker 1: driving the car?
Speaker 5: Well, I didn't mean think about it, Brian, I don't know. Again, I'm,
Speaker 5: as you know, against almost all of this.
Speaker 2: No, I know, but I'm just it is a fundamental proposition.
Speaker 2: Why I mean, exterior of the car to record accidents
Speaker 2: or you know, what's going on around you at least
Speaker 2: have some comprehension of why you might want that. But
Speaker 2: you know, picking my nose or eating a sandwich or
Speaker 2: doing whatever I'm doing in my car. I don't need
Speaker 2: a video record of anything going on to the inside
Speaker 2: of the car.
Speaker 1: I agree with the wholehearted thing.
Speaker 5: Okay, people Still, people still replace the head units in cars.
Speaker 5: You know, you can buy these and really advanced ones
Speaker 5: that sound better. It's getting harder though, because you know, again,
Speaker 5: most of these so called infotainment systems in modern cars
Speaker 5: are deeply integrating the overall folks now of the car.
Speaker 5: It's not just a radio anymore, right, oh, all kinds
Speaker 5: of things. So, but they make like replacement kits because
Speaker 5: to your point. You know, the thing is a weird shape.
Speaker 5: They do it by design. It takes up all this
Speaker 5: weird space. You got to have a special kit. But
Speaker 5: apparently there are still companies out there making their you know,
Speaker 5: aftermarket stereo systems for your car, and like most of
Speaker 5: this IoT stuff, they have.
Speaker 4: A lot of the same problems.
Speaker 5: So while you know, I would be careful about upgrading
Speaker 5: your cars systems simply because of the impact on the car,
Speaker 5: you have to think about this kind of stuff. And
Speaker 5: the bigger point is Internet of things in general, moldering, dumpster.
Speaker 2: Fire period every week, the reminder and you can't say
Speaker 2: it enough day maybe people will start listening to you
Speaker 2: don't hook your coffee maker up to the internet. Five
Speaker 2: six point thirty seven will continue with Dave. Apparently they're
Speaker 2: sending drones to nine to one one calls in New York.
Speaker 2: You dreaming of a smile is brilliant and forty outcrecy
Speaker 2: De talk station check right with Dave Hatter. All right,
Speaker 2: so Eric said, you might want to be able to
Speaker 2: have that camera in your car to track your kids driving,
Speaker 2: which I guess I kind of get, but he said
Speaker 2: recording passengers. He said, for like Uber lift people. They
Speaker 2: may want that, but you know, I guess you can
Speaker 2: just go ahead and get one of those independent, non
Speaker 2: Internet connected cameras and just put it on your your
Speaker 2: your windshield and record the passengers in the car.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's not something that I have any concern or care
Speaker 2: about and think it's either it's creepy and stupid, but
Speaker 2: Internet of Things is the broader point on that one.
Speaker 2: Moving on New York Police Department using drones.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is an interesting story, and I think this
Speaker 5: is unavoidable Brian, and probably happening in other places.
Speaker 4: And this particular writer.
Speaker 5: Seems to not be a fan of the NYPD based
Speaker 5: on the tone of this article. But again, you know,
Speaker 5: drones get cheaper and cheaper and cheaper and more and
Speaker 5: more capable, whether it's you know, the flight time, it's altitude,
Speaker 5: it's the cameras, microphones, et cetera in the drone.
Speaker 4: So I'm not saying I don't I don't like it.
Speaker 5: Don't misunderstand what I'm saying I think, but I think
Speaker 5: it's inevitable that we're headed in this direction because you know,
Speaker 5: they mentioned here these particular drones that the NYPD are
Speaker 5: using can go forty five miles an hour. Obviously, they
Speaker 5: can fly in a straight line. So if you have
Speaker 5: some sort of unfolding event, even something like a bankrupt
Speaker 5: it doesn't have to be a arrist vent or something, right,
Speaker 5: you can get eyes on the scene quickly understand what
Speaker 5: you're up against. But the point they make, which I
Speaker 5: fully agree with, is as these drones get smaller and
Speaker 5: more capable, you know, they can hover high enough that
Speaker 5: you can't hear or see them. Yet when they're telephoto lens,
Speaker 5: they can zoom in on you see what's in your hands.
Speaker 5: This article claims that these particular devices the NYPP are
Speaker 5: using can recognize people and license plates from a mile away.
Speaker 5: And the concern, yeah, the concern they're raising is that, okay,
Speaker 5: you send out the drone to wherever you know alleged
Speaker 5: crime is taking place, Well, it has the potence with
Speaker 5: to suck up everything in its path along the way. Right,
Speaker 5: So you know you're just out for a stroll, and
Speaker 5: you know now you're you're on the drone footage. I
Speaker 5: know that you know you have no expectation of privacy
Speaker 5: out in public, indeed, but you know I have some
Speaker 5: concerns about this again, I think it's inevitable, but I
Speaker 5: think it's important for people to understand and there ought
Speaker 5: to be a public conversation about this kind of technology
Speaker 5: and do we want this sort of super invasive technology.
Speaker 5: You know, you're in your backyard. The drone is up there,
Speaker 5: it's you know, hovering around, it's filming you, you know,
Speaker 5: with parabolic microphones. I don't know how far away you
Speaker 5: could probably listen to you. I'm sure it pretty far,
Speaker 5: I know, that's the thing. So yeah, it's interesting to
Speaker 5: see where all this is going. And again, I just
Speaker 5: don't see a way around it, because it's only going
Speaker 5: to get less and less expensive to put this sort
Speaker 5: of technology out there, Sue.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm a fan of sporting clays and skeet
Speaker 2: and trap shooting. Dave, Yeah, me too, you know how
Speaker 2: to lead?
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 2: The other thing that I think about is that there
Speaker 2: are so many satellites up there, and they have to
Speaker 2: be positioned properly so they don't run into each other
Speaker 2: in outer space. And I don't know how they manage
Speaker 2: that with the thousands and thousands of satellites. But I'm
Speaker 2: thinking of, you know, someday in the very near future,
Speaker 2: all these drones are flying around, and then we have
Speaker 2: these individual car sized drones and fly people around and
Speaker 2: drone taxis. You know at some point we're gonna have
Speaker 2: a lot of mid air accidents and collisions.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you have to be super confident in
Speaker 5: the technology for these things to avoid each other. And
Speaker 5: you know, obviously we don't have enormous amount of these
Speaker 5: things now, but I think over time you're just going
Speaker 5: to see more and more of it. And to your point, Briant,
Speaker 5: larger one air taxis that sort of thing, And as
Speaker 5: far fettered as that may sound, I think it's company.
Speaker 5: There are already companies claiming to be able to do this. Now.
Speaker 5: I'd be the first to say, not a chance I'll
Speaker 5: ride in any of these things anytime soon, because I
Speaker 5: don't trust the software in cars rolling on the ground,
Speaker 5: much less something's flying me around. But you know, I
Speaker 5: believe certainly within our lifetime you're going to see a
Speaker 5: lot more of these things. And you know, there are
Speaker 5: instances where these things fail, fall out of the sky,
Speaker 5: hit something, hit somebody. Again, I'm not too too worried
Speaker 5: about that, but when you think about this from a
Speaker 5: survey perspective. And you know you mentioned the satellite right.
Speaker 5: We know there have been satellites in the sky that
Speaker 5: can you know, read something in your hand and that
Speaker 5: sort of thing for a long time. But to your point,
Speaker 5: they have to be positioned. They only fly over every
Speaker 5: so often, or they're stuck in one place. You know,
Speaker 5: this gives you, This gives a government entity the capability
Speaker 5: for a relatively small amount of money to surveil you
Speaker 5: or anything they want, pretty much any time they want,
Speaker 5: for as long.
Speaker 4: As they want.
Speaker 5: And you know this is going to be abused, Brian,
Speaker 5: I mean, think about it. We've seen we've seen examples
Speaker 5: of companies like ADP where their technicians go in and
Speaker 5: you know, set up cameras to film attractive women in
Speaker 5: their house. I mean, it's well documented. People have gone
Speaker 5: to jail over there.
Speaker 2: Well, look, you know that we know the NSA is
Speaker 2: soaking up and basically soaking up every piece of data, email,
Speaker 2: text message that anybody in the United States or anywhere
Speaker 2: else in the world sends. So if our own government's
Speaker 2: doing it, you know nefarious actors are going to take
Speaker 2: hold of this technology and too for nefarious purposes. It's
Speaker 2: just it's so obvious. Oh well, we live in a
Speaker 2: frightening or wellian world.
Speaker 9: Day.
Speaker 1: You prove it every single week.
Speaker 5: But again, and I mean, I think all at this point,
Speaker 5: all you can really do is be aware, you know,
Speaker 5: act accordingly, and then you know, try to raise awareness
Speaker 5: with other people and talk to your legislators and you know,
Speaker 5: see what you can do to try to keep as
Speaker 5: much of this teenie in the bottle as possible.
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree with you wholeheartedly. We'll continue coming up next.
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Speaker 2: driving people nuts with the latest car technology.
Speaker 4: Yeah, back to cars.
Speaker 5: And it's interesting because then the article is talking about this,
Speaker 5: they have another article about how your modern car is
Speaker 5: spying on you and you don't know it kind of
Speaker 5: back to our first segment, and I encourage people go
Speaker 5: out and check out privacy.
Speaker 4: Not included in particular the exposity.
Speaker 5: On modern cars. But this is all about and I
Speaker 5: get this because I have a newer car.
Speaker 4: It's like at twenty eighteen.
Speaker 5: And my wife has a newer car.
Speaker 4: It's like at.
Speaker 5: Twenty nineteen, and you know, almost everything in it is
Speaker 5: no longer mechanical, right, everything is electronic.
Speaker 4: You've got to go to the entertainment screen, or you've got.
Speaker 5: Some kind of weird control that's not very precise, versus
Speaker 5: just I want to I just want to press the
Speaker 5: button and go to a certain channel, or I want
Speaker 5: to turn on the air conditioning or turn off the
Speaker 5: air conditioning without having to go through fifteen screens to
Speaker 5: figure out how to do it right. And that's one
Speaker 5: of the things. One of the things they point out.
Speaker 5: It's not only irritating for people, because a lot of
Speaker 5: you and I agree with this, are increasingly it's not
Speaker 5: only less intuitive. Yes, it's dangerous because you have to
Speaker 5: take your eyes off the road button, then you got
Speaker 5: to go to another button.
Speaker 2: Dave, think about this. It's illegal to use your cell
Speaker 2: phone in the state of.
Speaker 1: Ohio while you're driving.
Speaker 2: And yet, yeah, they got that giant screen which you
Speaker 2: have to use and operate to navigate through, to to
Speaker 2: deal with really literally anything you want to do in
Speaker 2: the car. How now you drive down the road and
Speaker 2: just your air condition You're like, oh, what screen do
Speaker 2: I need? And you're staring down at that your your
Speaker 2: your your your, your eyes aren't on the road.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So that's a pro recent study drivers feelings on
Speaker 5: the intuitiveness of car controls cell from seventy nine percent
Speaker 5: and twenty fifteen when you've had a lot less of
Speaker 5: the text and entertainment and digital buttons and so forth,
Speaker 5: to fifty six percent and twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I'm surprised it's that high.
Speaker 5: Because you know, I can't tell him because I've runted
Speaker 5: a car that I'm not familiar with, and then I
Speaker 5: have no idea what I'm doing, right, and unlike the
Speaker 5: old school. Again, here's a button, it turns on the
Speaker 5: air conditioning. Here's a button that turns on the deep roster.
Speaker 5: You know, some cars still have some combination of that,
Speaker 5: but a lot of it is increasingly digital. And I
Speaker 5: get it, but Also, I think the part of the
Speaker 5: people overlook.
Speaker 4: When they think about these things.
Speaker 5: All of this tech is very expensive when it goes bad,
Speaker 5: versus I just need to replace a switch that opens
Speaker 5: and closes a circuit to turn on the air conditioning
Speaker 5: or whatever. You know, if I got to replace the
Speaker 5: whole entertainment system.
Speaker 4: Very expensive.
Speaker 5: And you know, I think one of the greatest innovations
Speaker 5: in cars in the last several decades are backup cameras, right, Yeah,
Speaker 5: backup cameras super helpful, reduces a lot of danger. But
Speaker 5: you know, when those things go bad, and now cars
Speaker 5: have sensors all around them, those things can be extremely
Speaker 5: expensive to replace when they go bad, So you're not
Speaker 5: only adding to the cost of the car, you're adding
Speaker 5: to the maintenance of the car. And again, I understand
Speaker 5: the benefit of some of these things, but I agree
Speaker 5: wholeheartedly with this article that most modern cars are a
Speaker 5: lot less intuitive in the.
Speaker 1: Way you operate them.
Speaker 5: And I agree with your point, Brian, that it's dangerous
Speaker 5: to have to constant kee taking your eyes off the
Speaker 5: road to go three screens in to figure out how
Speaker 5: to change something you want to change about the environment
Speaker 5: or the behavior of the car. I find it very
Speaker 5: frustrating person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you all day long, and I hate
Speaker 2: to even admit this out loud, but since we gave
Speaker 2: our son the old Honda, we had to replace. We
Speaker 2: needed a larger vehicle because we have dogs, we have
Speaker 2: a yard, and you have to deal. So anyway, we
Speaker 2: got a modern used vehicle and it's got one of
Speaker 2: those systems in it. And when they were trying to
Speaker 2: upsell us on the extended warranty and it was really
Speaker 2: expensive for the extended warranty, the guy said, well, you know,
Speaker 2: something goes wrong with that. You know that screen, that
Speaker 2: infotainment system that's connected literally everything. It's more expensive to
Speaker 2: fix that than it is then replacing the engine in
Speaker 2: the car.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is crazy.
Speaker 2: That was his you know, his upsell. You know it's like,
Speaker 2: well it's still under warranty and how often does this happen? Well,
Speaker 2: but basically was They don't have any problems with it,
Speaker 2: so anyway, it's just it's scary stuff. I mean, I
Speaker 2: hate having one of those cars that's literally recording everything.
Speaker 2: And you know, to your point about the car spying
Speaker 2: on you, that information can be purchased by insurance companies.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes it can.
Speaker 5: In fact, you know that was another recent scandal. You
Speaker 5: may recall we talked about it briefly. GM had to
Speaker 5: come off. They were essentially selling the data collected from
Speaker 5: people's cars to insurance companies, and people were getting premium
Speaker 5: increases and canceled without voluntarily signing up. It's one thing,
Speaker 5: like the progressive thing, right, you get it, you pluge
Speaker 5: it into your car. You're volunteering to do that because
Speaker 5: you know your potents are going to get better raids.
Speaker 5: It's another thing, and they talk about that and that
Speaker 5: privacy not included thing. I keep referencing about how these
Speaker 5: cars are collecting all this data and potentially selling it
Speaker 5: to third parties, including your insurance company, who might decide
Speaker 5: you're not a good insurable risk based on the driving
Speaker 5: heb it's coming from your car. So things to think
Speaker 5: about as we head into this increasingly dystopian world where
Speaker 5: everything has sensors in it, and everything wants to track
Speaker 5: you if you'll let it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just so scary. Anyway, important information, know and
Speaker 2: think about. Dave Hatter, I always appreciate you bringing it
Speaker 2: to our attention every week here in a fifty five
Speaker 2: Caresity Morning Show. Look forward to next Friday in another
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Speaker 2: and the team at interust it dot com. Take care Dave,
Speaker 2: thank you again. Have a wonderful weekend, and I won't
Speaker 2: be around next week. I'm taking all week next off,
Speaker 2: so I think if you're doing the segment, you'll be
Speaker 2: doing it with Kevin Gordon next Friday.
Speaker 5: All right, well, Brian, you enjoy your time off and
Speaker 5: I'll look forward to chat with you when you're back.
Speaker 2: Thanks brother, Take care Man six fifty seven and fifty
Speaker 2: five care City Talk Station. We're in here from Troy Day.
Speaker 2: The program is Trust and Valor and it's a program
Speaker 2: for veterans and first responders. Should be really interesting. Plus
Speaker 2: the Daniel Davis Deep Dive Special Friday edition since we
Speaker 2: didn't get him on Tuesday. That'll take place at seven thirty.
Speaker 2: I'll be right back seven oh six, a fifty five
Speaker 2: KRCD talk station. If everyone's having a happy Friday, I
Speaker 2: think this will put a smile on your face. If
Speaker 2: you're not having a happy Friday, Welcome to the fifty
Speaker 2: five KRC Morning Show from an organization called Mustang Journey.
Speaker 2: Troy Day, Troy, Welcome to the show. It's great to
Speaker 2: have you on today.
Speaker 7: Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: I appreciate what you're doing because I am a huge
Speaker 2: supporter of, of course, the American veteran and first responders. My
Speaker 2: sister was a twenty five year police officer of the
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Police Department, and I'll tell you, I do get
Speaker 2: the idea of stress from a job, and I learned
Speaker 2: from her over the years what they face under pressure
Speaker 2: and the crap that they go through each and every day.
Speaker 2: And of course the American veteran, most notably combat veterans,
Speaker 2: deal with post traumatic stress and the day to day
Speaker 2: hardships are just being in the military obviously a very
Speaker 2: stressful reality. You obviously recognize that we're going to talk
Speaker 2: about your Trust and Valor program, but first let my
Speaker 2: listeners know about Mustang Journey, the organization, how you got started,
Speaker 2: what you do. It's online at Mustang Journey dot org.
Speaker 2: It's fascinating.
Speaker 11: Yeah, no, I appreciate that, and thank you to your
Speaker 11: family members for their service. Mustang Journey is a is
Speaker 11: a five O one C three nonprofit organization. We operate
Speaker 11: solely on donations and volunteers. And what we do is
Speaker 11: we adopt, tame, gentle and rehome wild mustangs. And you know,
Speaker 11: in this as you even mentioned what a great way
Speaker 11: to help and support two iconic American symbols of freedom,
Speaker 11: the wild mustang and the American soldier.
Speaker 2: So I understand you work with the Bureau of Land Management.
Speaker 2: Now these are as you mentioned, wild mustangs, and so
Speaker 2: they're they're they're they're rounded up and collected. Is there
Speaker 2: are they? Do they represent a problem out in the wild?
Speaker 2: Is that the reason that they're collected and rounded up
Speaker 2: by the Bureau of Land Management.
Speaker 11: Yeah, what has happened is the free ranging ranchers has
Speaker 11: gone to the government and asked them to remove the mustangs.
Speaker 11: They actually the ranchers actually round them up with helicopters.
Speaker 11: They claim that the wild mustangs are taking all the
Speaker 11: resources in the foliage and water.
Speaker 2: Yes, huh, well, I suppose you've probably questioned that reality
Speaker 2: or that that assertion. But nonetheless, because of those claims,
Speaker 2: they are rounded up, and I imagine that's got to
Speaker 2: be quite stressful for the wild mustangs.
Speaker 1: Just in and of itself.
Speaker 11: Yes, it is very stressful, and that's you know, we've noticed,
Speaker 11: you know, a parallel you know, examining the parallels between
Speaker 11: the life of a wild mustang from the round ups
Speaker 11: separated from their families and then also to the to
Speaker 11: the first responders and also.
Speaker 7: A ve and you know there's uh, there's that.
Speaker 11: The time to decompress that they need, the stress from
Speaker 11: around up, the stress from as you mentioned, even the combat,
Speaker 11: the traumatic experiences possibly even loss, uh you know in combat. Yeah,
Speaker 11: so the highlights, you know, shared a characteristic extent or
Speaker 11: you know, I guess you could say themes of camaraderie,
Speaker 11: you know, forging that trust between the veterans, the first
Speaker 11: responders and that wild mustang trust is going to be
Speaker 11: one of the.
Speaker 1: Biggest ones understood.
Speaker 2: So you mentioned gentling the mustang and and and getting
Speaker 2: into uh an animal that's that's rideable, So you're you're
Speaker 2: you're looking to it. I guess the old word for
Speaker 2: it is breaking a horse. I mean, I think about
Speaker 2: the old Western days and I'm an break a horse.
Speaker 2: You got a wild horse, and you learn how to
Speaker 2: calm it down, put a saddle on it, and make
Speaker 2: it into something that's actually rideable.
Speaker 11: Right exactly. And that's where we use the term gentle.
Speaker 11: There is no heartbreaking of these horses. They've already been
Speaker 11: through enough stress trauma, so we use these we use
Speaker 11: the type of training where you gentle them and it's
Speaker 11: it's there's no there's no heartbreaking of the.
Speaker 2: Horses, understood, and I appreciate your having a concern for
Speaker 2: the horse and inappropriate treatment. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 2: And so and that's where the veterans and first responders
Speaker 2: come in. You train them how to gentle the horses,
Speaker 2: and then you ultimately place them. It's it's like a
Speaker 2: forever home for the for the Mustang after you go
Speaker 2: through this process.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 11: So we actually we have different programs for the veterans
Speaker 11: and first responders. Have to say, one of those individuals
Speaker 11: they just want to learn to how to take care
Speaker 11: of a horse. That's we have something what we call
Speaker 11: a care team. That's where you just we teach them
Speaker 11: how to feed, water and muck and just spend some
Speaker 11: time with the horse. And that's really when some of
Speaker 11: the trust is built, just just take taking care of them.
Speaker 11: We also have a handling program where you can learn
Speaker 11: to halt or lead load a horse if you want
Speaker 11: to just kind of take it knowledge and experience a
Speaker 11: little step further. You mentioned the trust and valor that's
Speaker 11: learned how to tame tame a wild mustang from what
Speaker 11: we call untouchable to someone where you can halt or
Speaker 11: lead and load in a trailer. And then we are
Speaker 11: moving on to hopefully in a very near future, a
Speaker 11: riding program in these individuals, veterans and first responders help
Speaker 11: us get them to their forever homes.
Speaker 2: So the concept is this is this is very therapeutic
Speaker 2: for perhaps maybe a veteran who's struggling with post traumatic stress.
Speaker 2: You're giving them something that's really beneficial. It's distracting for
Speaker 2: them in the sense their mind isn't on other more
Speaker 2: traumatic things. They're helping this horse get, you know, you know, become.
Speaker 2: I guess is I hate to use the word usable,
Speaker 2: but you know it's it's a wild animal, but you're
Speaker 2: turning it into something that someone might want to adopt.
Speaker 2: And I guess all of this is really beneficial to
Speaker 2: the psychology of the veteran or first responder in that regard.
Speaker 11: Yes, sir, you know there's a lot of there's a
Speaker 11: lot of life skills that you can learn just by
Speaker 11: just by spending time and and and here's the thing,
Speaker 11: it's it's not us, it's it's a it's the horses.
Speaker 11: I I kind of, you know, just kind of missed
Speaker 11: myself as a as one beggar showing another beggar where
Speaker 11: to get the information from. And you know, those life skills,
Speaker 11: you know, it's there's it's not a a canned answer.
Speaker 11: You don't know what that individual is going to receive
Speaker 11: from spending time with the Mustangs, but some of those,
Speaker 11: you know, transitioning life skills could be you know, confidence,
Speaker 11: confidence back into the civilian world, if you will. Patience
Speaker 11: is another one. Uh, Presence, being in the moment is
Speaker 11: a big one that one has. That one has been
Speaker 11: a big one for me spending time with the Mustangs.
Speaker 11: And then you kind of mentioned it there too. Is
Speaker 11: just a peace of mind, right, even if it's for
Speaker 11: just a little while. It's just a peace of mind
Speaker 11: so you can forget about your daily challenges just for
Speaker 11: a little while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean everybody has something along those lines. You know,
Speaker 2: people who can't go to sleep at night they think
Speaker 2: about all the crap they did during the day, all
Speaker 2: the things they need to do tomorrow, and it's the
Speaker 2: worst possible time to think about those things because you're
Speaker 2: supposed to get a good night's sleep so you can
Speaker 2: then cope and deal with it the next day. So
Speaker 2: in this regard, when you're working with the Mustang, you
Speaker 2: have a task at hand, you have to have presence,
Speaker 2: you have to pay attention to what's going on in
Speaker 2: front of you. You have this beautiful, beautiful horse Mustang
Speaker 2: in front of you that's obviously you know, enjoyable to
Speaker 2: be with. It's a distraction from the day to day
Speaker 2: cares of life. I can see the brilliance of this
Speaker 2: just in thinking about along those lines.
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, wow, Yeah, And.
Speaker 11: I think that's you know again, you know, you're not
Speaker 11: sure what the individual is going to get out of it,
Speaker 11: but that's you know, again, just being able to focus,
Speaker 11: you know, focus and then use those to to move on.
Speaker 11: You know, you hold on to that for a little
Speaker 11: while to get you through your next days until until
Speaker 11: you can come back and spend more time with them.
Speaker 2: So this uh is does the program, this trust Environur program,
Speaker 2: is it for a specific period of time? Is it?
Speaker 2: Is it sort of like a show up when you
Speaker 2: need a kind of thing. How does it work? How
Speaker 2: does it operate?
Speaker 11: We can, Yeah, anyone could reach out to us and
Speaker 11: we can fit it into their schedule. We do have
Speaker 11: some type of a schedule right now. However, we do
Speaker 11: have folks coming that you know can't make it, you know,
Speaker 11: for instance, on a Sunday. Maybe they can't make it
Speaker 11: on a Sunday, so we will open up other times
Speaker 11: for them to come in and spend time with them,
Speaker 11: all right, and and just go and then go through
Speaker 11: the programs or you know, even at their even at
Speaker 11: their level where they're at the FORRCES. We've had several
Speaker 11: folks come through that have had, you know, grew up
Speaker 11: with horses. They possibly even maybe trained horses before going
Speaker 11: in into the military, and or they have little, little
Speaker 11: to no knowledge at all about horses and we just
Speaker 11: start them with the horses where their knowledge is at.
Speaker 2: Now, how long does it take from when you get
Speaker 2: one of these wild mustangs from the h Bureau of
Speaker 2: Land Management? How long does it, I guess normally take
Speaker 2: I suppose different mustangs vary like personalities. There one can
Speaker 2: take a longer time to train, others may adopt and
Speaker 2: accept the training earlier, but generally speaking, start to finish
Speaker 2: from when you get the Mustang initially till it's properly
Speaker 2: gentled and manageable. What's the length of time?
Speaker 7: You know what?
Speaker 11: You made a great point. They're just like humans. We
Speaker 11: all have our we all have our personal bubble to
Speaker 11: begin with.
Speaker 7: That's when it starts.
Speaker 11: We can start building that trust and we like to
Speaker 11: twelve months is what we like to shoot for. Can
Speaker 11: some get uh you know, rehome prior to that, yes,
Speaker 11: do some take a little bit longer, yes, but that's
Speaker 11: we We figure that twelve month period is a good
Speaker 11: time uh to get them, to get them decompressed, to
Speaker 11: get them through the training, and then uh typically put
Speaker 11: them we have x amount of hours we want to
Speaker 11: put them under saddle before before we do re home them.
Speaker 11: That's our goal. However, there have been some folks that
Speaker 11: have adopted the horses at the time and they wanted.
Speaker 7: To finish the horses off themselves. Oh, and that they can.
Speaker 11: They can do that as well, And that's an agreement
Speaker 11: between the individual who's adopting and us the board it
Speaker 11: Mustang Journey determine the best if that's going to be
Speaker 11: the best scenario for the horse, all.
Speaker 1: Right, case by case basis, this makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2: I know some people who are truly horse people, and
Speaker 2: I can see them perhaps wanting to pursue that path,
Speaker 2: but they've owned horses for decades and they know everything
Speaker 2: there is to know about them. Now, is there is
Speaker 2: it difficult to rehome these horses? Is there a waiting
Speaker 2: list or do you have to reach out and sort
Speaker 2: of market them? How does that work for Troy?
Speaker 7: You know, that's a great question.
Speaker 11: The Mustang network, if I can say, it's across the
Speaker 11: United States and there's several thousands horses out there, several
Speaker 11: thousands of people that are involved with Mustangs. But it's
Speaker 11: a very intimate community. And there's a story about a
Speaker 11: horse spirit that we had a very photogenic horse in
Speaker 11: the herd management area in Honaky and Utah. She's a
Speaker 11: well documented horse by professional photographers. She's been on some
Speaker 11: PBS shows and uh, once we put her up for adoption,
Speaker 11: there was a mustang owner actually owns a Mustang. She
Speaker 11: owns her herd mate in sunny San Diego.
Speaker 7: So it just goes to show you it's it's.
Speaker 11: Intimate, but yet it's it's a tight knit, uh network.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 11: And once you when you know, once you put it
Speaker 11: out there, you know, folks, folks will find them, Folks
Speaker 11: will find the Mustangs.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, my wife and I have just that
Speaker 2: way of example. It seems to be somewhat of a
Speaker 2: parallel were Doberman lovers and there are there's a network
Speaker 2: of Doberman rescues, just like there are there's a network
Speaker 2: of pitbull rescues or any other breed, but they are interconnected.
Speaker 2: So if you know, there's somebody in Cincinnati that's looking
Speaker 2: for to rescue a Doberman, and it doesn't have to
Speaker 2: be any it doesn't there's not one necessarily in the area.
Speaker 2: You can reach out to the one in Kentucky, or
Speaker 2: they reach out with the one in Indiana.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: That's that's how that works a lot. I understand how
Speaker 2: that connection works. So there is a Mustang community out there.
Speaker 2: So I'm glad to know that because I, yeah, my
Speaker 2: wife would love to own a horse, and I just
Speaker 2: you know, like honey, there's no way. So it's just
Speaker 2: it seems to me it would be an uphill challenge
Speaker 2: to place these Mustangs, but apparently it's not now moving
Speaker 2: aside from the uh the valor program, UH, the Trust
Speaker 2: and Valor program. Do you take volunteers? But I know
Speaker 2: you're located in Goshen, so my listeners know that, and
Speaker 2: do you are you looking for volunteers? I know you
Speaker 2: want donations, and so I will encourage my listeners if
Speaker 2: you want to donate to this wonderful cause. It's Mustang
Speaker 2: Journey dot org. There's a little donate button. But how
Speaker 2: about just folks who would like to spend some time
Speaker 2: there mucking or leading or doing whatever. Does you need
Speaker 2: them to do?
Speaker 7: Absolutely?
Speaker 11: Absolutely, We're always looking for volunteers, you know, to support
Speaker 11: Mustang Journey. And typically the draw to Mustang Journey is
Speaker 11: the care team that I mentioned, Folks that just want
Speaker 11: to kind of mountain just you know, take care of them,
Speaker 11: you know, feed water, mock, pick up a miller and
Speaker 11: you know, and just spend time with them. But they
Speaker 11: can certainly reach out to us, and there's obviously some
Speaker 11: some paperwork that they would need to fill out, and yeah,
Speaker 11: just and and get started. You have two or three orientations,
Speaker 11: depending on the level of horse knowledge.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 11: You know, when you feel comfortable being the in the
Speaker 11: pen and taking care of them, then we'll just kind
Speaker 11: of not turn you loose, but go through the orientation
Speaker 11: and then you can start taking care of them. That
Speaker 11: we have a we have a community. We have a
Speaker 11: we have a community calendar h that you can you
Speaker 11: can put your name on a certain time. It's called
Speaker 11: time tree and uh you can put your name on
Speaker 11: the on the calendar when you want to. If you
Speaker 11: once a week, once a month, twice a week, it's
Speaker 11: up to you.
Speaker 2: That's wonderful. I have a feeling you may get some
Speaker 2: calls on this or some some outreach and I see
Speaker 2: on your your website how much a bail of hay is,
Speaker 2: how much the grain is, and you know, veterinary visit
Speaker 2: and all that. There's donation levels. You can be a
Speaker 2: sponsor of a horse for a full year at a
Speaker 2: certain level, so there's a multitude of ways to help out.
Speaker 2: Or you can just show up and and help them
Speaker 2: clean the stalls out and work with some beautiful mustangs
Speaker 2: and they are absolutely beautiful beasts.
Speaker 1: Troy Day, thanks.
Speaker 2: For the time you spend with my listeners today and
Speaker 2: explaining Mustang journey to my listening audience. I think it's
Speaker 2: a wonderful thing you're doing. And keep up the great work,
Speaker 2: and uh hopefully we'll have you back on the show
Speaker 2: down the road again sometime.
Speaker 11: Absolutely, I appreciate thank you for having me certainly appreciate it,
Speaker 11: and like to invite you and your wife out, come
Speaker 11: on out and meet the Mustang.
Speaker 2: Well, get the horse part out of her system for
Speaker 2: a little bit. She grew up on a farm and
Speaker 2: had a horse when she was young, so that's where
Speaker 2: that comes from. And thanks again for the work.
Speaker 11: The way you can, you know, have somebody else take
Speaker 11: care of the horses and you can just come out
Speaker 11: and spend time with them.
Speaker 2: I like that idea, man, I like that idea. And
Speaker 2: thanks again for helping the American and first responder Troy Day.
Speaker 2: It's been a real pleasure. Mustang Journey dot Org is
Speaker 2: where you find the organization and help him out in
Speaker 2: some way. Troy, take care of yourself and keep up
Speaker 2: the great work. It's seven twenty two at fifty five KR.
Speaker 2: See the talk station bottom of there. We're gonna hear
Speaker 2: from Daniel Davis with a deep dive, So to stick
Speaker 2: around for that. Seven thirty here fifty five CARCD Talk
Speaker 2: Station a very happy Friday, and so please do a
Speaker 2: special edition with retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis since we
Speaker 2: missed out on an opportunity due to a technical glitch.
Speaker 2: You know, sometimes without Joe, the show don't go, even
Speaker 2: though Seaman Man is doing a wonderful job covering for Joe.
Speaker 2: Better late than never. Welcome back Daniel Davis at the
Speaker 2: fifty five KRCY Morning Show. It's as always a pleasure
Speaker 2: talking with you.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm just feeling really like almost withdraw symptoms from
Speaker 13: heaven not talk to you on Tuesday, so I'm glad
Speaker 13: we made it up.
Speaker 2: It's always an enjoyable and engaging discussion and very informative.
Speaker 2: And I didn't get a topic from you, but I
Speaker 2: kind of assumed it would be a continuation of our
Speaker 2: ongoing discussion over the situation between Russia and Ukraine. And
Speaker 2: if you want to go in a different direction, that's fine.
Speaker 2: But I had to ask you about this because my
Speaker 2: friends over Breiitbart were reporting that the British Defense Minister
Speaker 2: was meeting yesterday they got around thirty countries to move
Speaker 2: forward with plans on deploying troops to defend Ukraine or otherwise,
Speaker 2: you know, after a peace deal is negotiated to secure
Speaker 2: the perimeter or something. They said two hundred military planners
Speaker 2: from thirty countries were working to develop plans for deepening
Speaker 2: European involvement in Ukraine. But here is the and it's
Speaker 2: not funny because we're talking about war and we're talking
Speaker 2: about people dying. But as briip Art right, real quick,
Speaker 2: as breibart Rite's building a force big enough to act
Speaker 2: as a credible deterrent is proving a considerable effort for
Speaker 2: nations that strength their militaries after the Cold War, I mean,
Speaker 2: no kidding, I mean without us, they can't even defend themselves.
Speaker 2: How are they going to take on this large responsibility
Speaker 2: when they don't have any armies of any size any longer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is truly bizarre.
Speaker 13: I'll say their meeting, by the way, that was the
Speaker 13: Coalition of the Willing Military arm meeting there yesterday.
Speaker 1: You're talking today.
Speaker 13: The defense ministers are meeting in Germany to talk about
Speaker 13: nuth aid, which apparently just a couple hours ago was
Speaker 13: released like twenty twenty one billion dollars in additional aid
Speaker 13: something like that. But I mean it's puzzling because the
Speaker 13: Russians are saying, hey, we're working with Trump to try
Speaker 13: to find a way to end this war, but we
Speaker 13: keep telling you that no NATO countries will be allowed
Speaker 13: any kind of a peacekeeping force at all. It's a
Speaker 13: complete and total non starter. So then the question has
Speaker 13: to be if we're telling you that is not even
Speaker 13: on the table for the Russian side, and you can't
Speaker 13: have them in there unless there's an agreement on both sides,
Speaker 13: then why are you going down a path that is
Speaker 13: not going to be acceptable to anyone?
Speaker 1: It is bizarre to me.
Speaker 13: And then, as you said, it's also alarming because they
Speaker 13: can't even come up with enough people even to put
Speaker 13: on paper that could go up in there. And I
Speaker 13: don't know that they realize it, but that is signaling
Speaker 13: significant weakness to the Russian side to get more bold
Speaker 13: because they see that their paper military on the whole
Speaker 13: Western side, and that's something that should trouble all of us.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, and I'm certain Russian intelligence is painfully well
Speaker 2: obviously aware of the limitations of the European Union's military forces.
Speaker 2: But you're I mean, you understand military warfare and deployment
Speaker 2: of troops This isn't like if they had a sizable
Speaker 2: military force and sufficient assets and missile systems and weapons
Speaker 2: systems and satellite capabilities, they had everything they need in
Speaker 2: order to wage a potential war. They're not that far
Speaker 2: away from Ukraine. I mean, they're right there on the perimeter.
Speaker 2: It's not like deploying forces from you know, the Gulf
Speaker 2: of Mexico I'm sorry, Gulf of America over to Saudi
Speaker 2: Arabia and and and and even to launch missiles at
Speaker 2: the Huthis that takes a long time. But if you're
Speaker 2: already in you know, Western Europe, it's not that far
Speaker 2: of a drive to get to Ukraine, right, I mean
Speaker 2: missing something?
Speaker 13: No, And in fact, we you know, when I grew
Speaker 13: up in the Cold War in the in the army,
Speaker 13: in the US Army there, and we used to have
Speaker 13: what's called Reforger or return Forces Germany, where we would
Speaker 13: do this big movement every year or two, would send
Speaker 13: you know, huge numbers of forces and be tens or
Speaker 13: hundreds of thousands of troops would take part from all
Speaker 13: the different NATO countries moving around to show that we
Speaker 13: had the capacity to physically fight in the event that
Speaker 13: the Soviet Union ever invaded.
Speaker 1: Well, now then.
Speaker 13: You see that how far the whole, the whole NATO
Speaker 13: itself has deteriorated, that it can't even muster a handful
Speaker 13: of thousands. I mean, originally they were looking for as
Speaker 13: far back as December two hundred thousand peacekeepers, and then
Speaker 13: they said, well, maybe one hundred thousand. Now then they're
Speaker 13: saying maybe thirty thousand. Yeah, and they're having a hard
Speaker 13: time with that. What kind of signal does that send
Speaker 13: to your potential adversary on the Russian side, who, by
Speaker 13: the way, have expanded to one point five million active
Speaker 13: troops and growing.
Speaker 2: Well, that is I mean, I suppose one could characterize
Speaker 2: it as an as an existential threat, but recognizing that
Speaker 2: you're still talking about some nuclear armed countries in spite
Speaker 2: of the fact they have very few people to you know,
Speaker 2: wage a war, you're still looking at the potential of
Speaker 2: the you know, the holocaust like nuclear holocaust scenario, which
Speaker 2: is the only thing I suppose that prevents Russia from
Speaker 2: actually going in and invading Western Europe, which I don't
Speaker 2: really believe. And maybe you've got some thoughts on this
Speaker 2: that that's something Vladimir Putin wants to take on.
Speaker 13: No, he does not want to do that, but he
Speaker 13: is building up a force that could do that if
Speaker 13: he feels that he is threatened to the point to
Speaker 13: where the NATO nations are actually thinking about going beyond
Speaker 13: where they already have, which is supporting a war against Russia,
Speaker 13: and if they don't reach a peace agreement.
Speaker 1: They're saying, hey, at some point.
Speaker 13: If we can't assure our security on our western flank
Speaker 13: through negotiations to end this war, then we'll take whatever
Speaker 13: actions we need to to go first. There are many
Speaker 13: in the Kremlin that are pushing hard for that. I'll
Speaker 13: just tell you straight up. I see it in the
Speaker 13: Russian media. They have been very open. I'm talking Russian
Speaker 13: state media has been very open about saying that's what
Speaker 13: we should do. They're building a force that could potentially
Speaker 13: do that. Meanwhile, we're just talking on the other side.
Speaker 13: And Brian, all of this puts in great relief that
Speaker 13: when you look at what we talked about a lot,
Speaker 13: the balance of power between the two sides is just
Speaker 13: irrevocably on the Russian side for the Russia Ukraine War,
Speaker 13: It's now evident it also extends into the NATO alliance
Speaker 13: and instead of recognizing that and going, holy crap, let's
Speaker 13: get this war over with and see if we can
Speaker 13: fill the holes here, they're ignoring the reality, still trying
Speaker 13: to pretend it's back during the time I was serving
Speaker 13: and when Reforger, when the balance of power was evil equal,
Speaker 13: And instead they're continuing with this fiction that they're going
Speaker 13: to try and beat Russia through Ukraine.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense at all.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, looking forward, let's assume the worst case
Speaker 2: scenario that Okay, the warmongers that surround Pewton have their
Speaker 2: way and Russia goes ahead and tries to take over
Speaker 2: Western Europe. I don't care if they have two million troops,
Speaker 2: how many millions of people live in Western Europe. I mean,
Speaker 2: you can't. You can't hold the block, if you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. If you've got enough people, you know,
Speaker 2: willing to take pot shots and random Russian soldiers, you
Speaker 2: got this potential long term, you know, unsustainable girl of warfare.
Speaker 2: I mean, think about we were in Afghanistan for how
Speaker 2: many years, one single country, and we ended up pulling out.
Speaker 2: The great American might, the great American military couldn't hold
Speaker 2: one country. And I don't know the size of maybe
Speaker 2: Texas or something. I don't know what the geographical realities are,
Speaker 2: but when you really practically think about this, it's almost
Speaker 2: it seems like an insurmountable challenge.
Speaker 13: Well see, and that's that's if Russia wanted to occupy
Speaker 13: all of Europe, which they don't even even in. And
Speaker 13: the version what they're talking right now, these warhawks in
Speaker 13: the Moscow side is that they just want to defeat
Speaker 13: the military capacity of NATO and then so that they
Speaker 13: can ensure that they're safe because there won't be a threat,
Speaker 13: and then they would return home. So this is more
Speaker 13: like an exponential expeditionary event, not a conquest event.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I think that boiled down though, that's
Speaker 2: bluster on the part of the warmongers over in Russia,
Speaker 2: because as you and I have just talked about, the
Speaker 2: NATO alliance isn't really a threat.
Speaker 13: Well there's that, and maybe that's why Russia or Putin
Speaker 13: himself has pushed back against the hawks, because he said
Speaker 13: they don't really represent a threat, but they do want this.
Speaker 1: War over, yeah, and they're willing to do whatever it takes.
Speaker 13: And I think that that's where they could and according
Speaker 13: to General Sersky this morning.
Speaker 1: I just saw it just before we came on an air.
Speaker 13: He said that the Russian offensive that they've been warning
Speaker 13: about began apparently yesterday the day before. It's apparently a
Speaker 13: slow greet, but it's an increase in the Zaparisia and
Speaker 13: in the Sumi area in the north.
Speaker 1: And we'll see where that goes.
Speaker 13: But Russia may be deciding to just solve this on
Speaker 13: the battlefield if they can't get a diplomacy.
Speaker 2: Well, and the more they take over, the better their
Speaker 2: position becomes in a negotiation, and maybe that may be
Speaker 2: the point of moving in. You know, if you guys
Speaker 2: aren't sitting down at the table and working on terms
Speaker 2: that are at least palatable to the Russians, because guess what,
Speaker 2: we're winning and we continue to win, and you're running
Speaker 2: out of soldiers and munitions. I'm sorry, you don't have
Speaker 2: any negotiation here. So let's get it over with. You
Speaker 2: give us the Russian occupied primarily Russian people regions, that's
Speaker 2: what you know we want. We'll let you have the
Speaker 2: rest of Ukraine because they don't want to send there,
Speaker 2: you don't want to send there. Let's get this thing
Speaker 2: over with because that's the obvious conclusion if you're going
Speaker 2: to negotiate piece, that's what's gonna happen, right.
Speaker 13: Brian, Listen, I think I'm gonna see if I can't
Speaker 13: get a hold of President Trump this morning and puts
Speaker 13: you in charge of the negotiating game, because you got it,
Speaker 13: you have it figured out, and we just need to
Speaker 13: make sure that you bring Europe alongside your obvious logic
Speaker 13: and ration thought there, because that's the only way this
Speaker 13: is going to get to an end, because no war
Speaker 13: is going to end until one side at least recognizes
Speaker 13: finally that they can no longer continue to put forth
Speaker 13: effective resistance and to the point of where they go,
Speaker 13: all right, we either keep fighting and dying or we
Speaker 13: make a deal. And apparently the West, certainly it's not,
Speaker 13: and I guess Ukraine hasn't gotten to that point either.
Speaker 13: So we have a new Russian offensive and we'll see
Speaker 13: where that goes.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, maybe they can play this conversation to the
Speaker 2: collective that's going to be meeting today. All I'm saying is,
Speaker 2: you know, listen, we lost Vietnam. We pulled out and
Speaker 2: we lost, but you know what, now they're a trading
Speaker 2: partner with us so over the long term and ended
Speaker 2: up working out.
Speaker 1: We licked our wounds. We looked bad, and you know
Speaker 1: you move on right. It's time to do this.
Speaker 2: It's time to quit killing. End the story. Daniel Davis
Speaker 2: Deep Die find them online, listen to this podcast. I
Speaker 2: always love the conversation, Danie'll look forward to and actually
Speaker 2: not next season. I'm off all week. Next week I'm
Speaker 2: taking a mental health week. Got to have one ever
Speaker 2: once in a while, So I'm taking the week off.
Speaker 2: But fast forward a week from Tuesday, we'll hit the
Speaker 2: ground running again.
Speaker 13: Well, look forward to it, and I'll let you know
Speaker 13: what President Trump says about you being the negotiating team.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Take care of yourself. My brother will
Speaker 2: talk soon.
Speaker 1: Seven.
Speaker 2: If it's five KR Seed the talk station, it's seven
Speaker 2: fifty fifty five car Seed Talk Station. After having a
Speaker 2: happy Friday, Hey, Sean went opened the phone lines up
Speaker 2: just in case somebody wants to call. I want to
Speaker 2: thank again as I had such a wonderful time hearing
Speaker 2: vivik Ramaswami last night at the Warren Kind of Republican Club,
Speaker 2: and I had the I was blessed with the opportunity
Speaker 2: to introduce him. But just the guy is great. If
Speaker 2: you haven't heard him speak, if you haven't met him
Speaker 2: in person, and when you have an opportunity, please do so.
Speaker 2: He will be the next governor of the state of
Speaker 2: Ohio absent something insane going on. I can't imagine Ohio
Speaker 2: flipping blue between now and then. And I can't imagine
Speaker 2: anybody voting for Amy Lockdown acting think about that. I
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Speaker 2: can't order a drink after ten pm. But what the
Speaker 2: hell that's going to stop COVID from spreading. What a
Speaker 2: bunch of nonsensical garbage that you and I lived through.
Speaker 2: And as it turns out, apparently the China has now
Speaker 2: admitted or rather there's this new report out. I'm going
Speaker 2: to get my stories about China mixed up, a new
Speaker 2: report out that the Biden administration sat on talking about this.
Speaker 2: The spread of COVID nineteen started a couple of months
Speaker 2: before it was actually let out to the public that
Speaker 2: there was such a thing as COVID nineteen. Going on
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two Defense Department report, described as long withheld
Speaker 2: by the Biden administration, has now surfaced, revealing that seven
Speaker 2: United the State's service members showed COVID nineteen like symptoms
Speaker 2: after having competed in the World Military Games in yes Wuhan, China.
Speaker 2: This is months before the virus broke out in the
Speaker 2: United States. Discloser now suggesting the virus was circulating around
Speaker 2: the city of Wuhan months before China let the world
Speaker 2: know in December of twenty nineteen that it was circulating.
Speaker 2: The games took place in October twenty nineteen. According to
Speaker 2: Fox News reporting, this report was legally required to be
Speaker 2: released publicly online more than two years ago in a
Speaker 2: searchable format that's in quote, so it's based upon the obligation,
Speaker 2: but it only became available sometime in late March of
Speaker 2: this year, when the Trump administration finally uploaded it to
Speaker 2: the Defensive Apartment's website. Given credit to the Washington Free
Speaker 2: Beacon outloard report of the Bide administration did send copies
Speaker 2: of the report to the House and Senate Armed Services
Speaker 2: Committee back in December of twenty two, but the report
Speaker 2: was never made available online by the administration. Says that
Speaker 2: there was no significant outbreak of COVID nineteen like symptoms
Speaker 2: at Defense Department facilities after the athlete's return, although service
Speaker 2: members were not tested for COVID nineteen or antibodies as
Speaker 2: testing was not available at that early stage of the pandemic.
Speaker 2: So it's certainly possible that this was spreading around and
Speaker 2: people were struggling with COVID nineteen like symptoms, but they
Speaker 2: didn't put their finger on it being COVID nineteen because
Speaker 2: the world wasn't aware of it yet. Apparently, other international
Speaker 2: athletes reported having come down with COVID nineteen like symptoms,
Speaker 2: according to Daily Mail reporting back in June of twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one, and they say the Games have long been
Speaker 2: suspected as a super spreader event because it took place
Speaker 2: close to the Wuhan Institute for Avirology. Don't drink after
Speaker 2: ten o'clock, Tom, Welcome to the Morning Show. Thanks for
Speaker 2: calling today.
Speaker 10: Why good morning, Brian. How you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm doing great, man, It's Friday. I'm always doing creatd
Speaker 2: on a Friday, especially when the precedes me taking a
Speaker 2: week off.
Speaker 3: Ka.
Speaker 14: I figured i'd better get in now before you take
Speaker 14: your week off. I'm I'm getting very close to wrapping
Speaker 14: my job up, but you see, and and hopefully getting
Speaker 14: back on more of a normal schedule.
Speaker 2: Well normal meaning we're going to start hearing back from
Speaker 2: you at five point thirty in the morning on weekdays.
Speaker 10: Oh absolutely.
Speaker 14: I mean if I if I wasn't having to start
Speaker 14: work at five o'clock, you would have had to endure
Speaker 14: all my rants for the last year.
Speaker 10: So it's it's been a tough year.
Speaker 2: Well, I've missed hearing from you, but we do have
Speaker 2: your don't vote Democrat on SoundBite format and do run
Speaker 2: it occasionally. I don't know if you've ever heard heard
Speaker 2: us play it, but it certainly comes in handy from
Speaker 2: time to time, and it makes me thinking of Tom.
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear from you. Everything good in your world?
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, it doing all right.
Speaker 14: Recently, have to give props to my lovely bride. I've
Speaker 14: gotten into golf the last couple of years, a little
Speaker 14: late in life, but hey whatever, started playing some golf.
Speaker 14: And I've yet to play in Ohio, but just a
Speaker 14: couple of weeks ago i played Tory Pines. Oh yeah,
Speaker 14: in La Joiah. She heard me talking about it, and
Speaker 14: my birthday was coming up, and she booked me a
Speaker 14: tea time for Tory Pines. I got to play both courses,
Speaker 14: and uh I got to give her all the credits.
Speaker 14: She set the whole thing up and we had a
Speaker 14: We had a wonderful week out in the San Diego area.
Speaker 14: Beautiful place to visit.
Speaker 1: That's a lot. That is a long course.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's the courses are long, but it's beautiful.
Speaker 2: I played that course. Actually, I'm not much of a golfer.
Speaker 2: My dad did insist that I learned how to play golf,
Speaker 2: and so the partner at the firm that I was
Speaker 2: working for, we were out there on business and we
Speaker 2: ended up playing Tory Pines and we walked it and
Speaker 2: I remember I was just exhausted by the.
Speaker 1: End of that bro.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, why does anybody play
Speaker 2: this game?
Speaker 10: And did you play the North or South course?
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I just remember it was long.
Speaker 14: Yeah, they're both they're both pretty long. So yeah, that
Speaker 14: was good time. I recommend visiting, but damn man, it's
Speaker 14: expensive out there. It is pricey. I think the keep
Speaker 14: US I pay for gas was four sixty nine or
Speaker 14: something like that.
Speaker 10: Everything there, Yeah, everything's expensive.
Speaker 14: But you know your last story you just did with
Speaker 14: the uh, with the whole COVID thing. If people haven't
Speaker 14: figured it out by now, how much we're being lied
Speaker 14: to by the Democrats especially Uh, I don't I don't
Speaker 14: know what else is going to take to get people
Speaker 14: to understand that you cannot, we cannot ever let the
Speaker 14: Democrats gain any power or control in your in your town,
Speaker 14: your counting, your state, and especially not the federal government.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 14: Whatever we got to do to make sure they don't
Speaker 14: have any power over anything. Don't let them have the
Speaker 14: Senate or the House back, don't let them get the presidency.
Speaker 7: All that.
Speaker 14: We we've got to make sure that doesn't happen because
Speaker 14: we are, we are reeling from the damage of the
Speaker 14: last you know, you say four years, Really it's been.
Speaker 10: Going on for a lot longer than that.
Speaker 14: It so finally, you know, it's gonna take a bull
Speaker 14: in a china shop like Trump and and Elon Musk
Speaker 14: to come in here break things down. Unfortunately, that's what's
Speaker 14: kind of happen. So people don't panic, it's relax. It's
Speaker 14: gonna get fixed.
Speaker 7: And the only way.
Speaker 14: It's gonna continue is if you keep voting for Republicans
Speaker 14: to keep them in there so they can fix things
Speaker 14: with all their problems they have. Whatever you do, don't
Speaker 14: vote Democrat. Have a great day, Bryan Coo.
Speaker 2: Waiting for that brother. You too good to hear from
Speaker 2: you after a while. Seven fifty seven The Coming up Douglas,
Speaker 2: Captain Douglas Ernest The Spirit of a True Patriot. That's
Speaker 2: the book we'll be talking about right at the top
Speaker 2: of our news eight o six I fifty five p
Speaker 2: r C be Talk Station. By time's switching, You're on
Speaker 2: a very very happy Friday. I having a little extra
Speaker 2: good mood. Not that I don't love being here and
Speaker 2: talking to my listeners and enjoying engaging in conversations during
Speaker 2: the fifty five KC Morning Show, but every once in
Speaker 2: a while I do need a little time off. So
Speaker 2: I'm taking what I'm calling a mental health vacation next week,
Speaker 2: Gonna sleep in, and I'm gonna do my best to
Speaker 2: try to ignore the problems of the world. So it's
Speaker 2: just been I guess maybe a little too long since
Speaker 2: I took a break. So that's how I'm feeling. And
Speaker 2: I'm sure that Dan Carroll will cover the situation quite well.
Speaker 2: Between Monday and Thursday, and then Kevin Gordon's going to
Speaker 2: handle matters on Friday, so you can enjoy them and take.
Speaker 1: A break from me. Maybe you'll be happier about that.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's something you want to talk about. I was
Speaker 2: supposed to have an author on at this segment, but
Speaker 2: sadly not answering the phone. I know that always frustrates
Speaker 2: the hell out of Joe's Treker. Sean McMahon, who's covering
Speaker 2: for Joe'streker this week, he taking it and stride not
Speaker 2: taking it personally. But then again, he didn't set the
Speaker 2: guest up Joe is. That's why he always takes it personally.
Speaker 2: So anyway, well can take phone calls. Maybe this a
Speaker 2: particular topic you want to talk about. I did bring
Speaker 2: it up earlier. I was just really laughing at the
Speaker 2: situation with the Bengals in Hamilton County now going to
Speaker 2: Columbus and asking for three hundred and fifty million dollars
Speaker 2: for pay Corse Dum upgrades which are going to total
Speaker 2: eight hundred and thirty million dollars. And I mean, it's
Speaker 2: mind numbing, isn't it. But and I've been given props
Speaker 2: to the WCPO, who actually interviewed the Mike Dwine among others,
Speaker 2: but Dan Monk and Paula Christian did the reporting on it.
Speaker 1: So props to them.
Speaker 2: That the Senate Finance Chair Jerry Serena said that nobody
Speaker 2: from the Bengals are Hamilton kind of reached out to him.
Speaker 2: I mean the budget just got pasted the other day.
Speaker 2: That's the one that had six hundred million dollars in
Speaker 2: bonds for Yes, the Cleveland Browns and they're huge, mega complex.
Speaker 2: Governor Wine also said he was expressed surprise at requests.
Speaker 2: He said he met with Alisha Reice last year about
Speaker 2: the state he but never heard anything further or any
Speaker 2: specifics regarding a proposal. So big mystery up in Columbus.
Speaker 2: And apparently no lobbyist on behalf of the Bengals either.
Speaker 2: Just pretty funny anyway.
Speaker 1: So do we have him now?
Speaker 2: Oh great, Welcome to the I have Cassey Morning Show
Speaker 2: author Doug Ernest and the name of the book we're
Speaker 2: talking about this morning, The Spirit of a True Patriot,
Speaker 2: The inspiring story of retired Captain Doug Ernest, who also
Speaker 2: now is a successful businessman. Doug, It's a pleasure to
Speaker 2: have you on the program. Let me start by thanking
Speaker 2: you for your service to our country.
Speaker 15: Thank you for that wonderful pleasure and that introduction. I
Speaker 15: cannot say thank you enough.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll get to the business because I think it's
Speaker 2: an integral part of what you learned from. Obviously a
Speaker 2: horrific situation in the military. You served in Operation Desert Storm,
Speaker 2: and as you described in the book, jumping out of
Speaker 2: your M one thirteen personnel carrier, it sounded a lot
Speaker 2: like what the experience on the beaches in Normandy. We
Speaker 2: get all this mortar rounds and gunshots and explosions all
Speaker 2: around you. I mean, how old were you at the time.
Speaker 15: I had just turned eighteen. I had joined the Army
Speaker 15: at the age of seventeen, spent six months in training, infantry,
Speaker 15: airboard school, and some other classes, and then I went
Speaker 15: off to Saudi Arabia about two weeks after I finished
Speaker 15: my training. Eighteen years old when that experience happened.
Speaker 2: Eighteen years old, and you know, I've sort of come
Speaker 2: to the realization over the years they have a cutoff
Speaker 2: with enlisting in the military because guys like my age.
Speaker 2: I'll be sixty in September Doug and Douglas, and you
Speaker 2: couldn't I have a problem with authority anyway, But jumping
Speaker 2: out of an M one th thirteen personnel carry amid
Speaker 2: bombs and blasts and gunfire, that scares the living crap
Speaker 2: out of me right now. But as an eighteen year old,
Speaker 2: what was your emotional reaction to that and the other
Speaker 2: warfare and the challenges you faced during the Operation Desert Storm.
Speaker 15: My emotional reaction.
Speaker 4: Was really simple.
Speaker 15: I had a great one reakingship with the Lord when
Speaker 15: I was younger, because I was grew up in that
Speaker 15: type of environment with my family, attending a Lutheran school
Speaker 15: and always having a presence with the Lord. And I
Speaker 15: was just communicating with him consistently throughout the day, and
Speaker 15: so were my brothers that I was with. We were
Speaker 15: having prayer groups together, we were having spiritual caather, We
Speaker 15: were every time we could get together. We have each
Speaker 15: other's hand, and to say, please, Lord, guide us, give
Speaker 15: us direction, Please ask us the Lord to end this
Speaker 15: conflict quickly, because not only did we not want to
Speaker 15: get hurt, but we you know, as human beings and
Speaker 15: loving men, we don't want.
Speaker 10: To hurt other people.
Speaker 15: And it was hard as a kid. I think the
Speaker 15: hardest part too, was knowing that I might be inflicting
Speaker 15: collateral damage on people that we were firing these weapons at.
Speaker 15: And that was hard for me because I grew up
Speaker 15: as a kid peaceful. Yeah, I did not want to
Speaker 15: hurt people. I did not want to. I could not
Speaker 15: take the pain that I knew if I had hurt someone,
Speaker 15: I wasn't ready for that yet. That I had learned
Speaker 15: how to train, I had done this in simulation, but
Speaker 15: I wasn't ready to actually kill another person.
Speaker 2: Is that the general mindset of the majority of your comrades,
Speaker 2: because you know, we had this ridiculous notion. And I
Speaker 2: feel so badly for the men and women and mostly
Speaker 2: men who served in combat of Vietnam and they got
Speaker 2: treated so miserably. They were called baby killers, and they
Speaker 2: got a reputation with all the Hollywood movies depicting Vietnam
Speaker 2: that they were just running around gleefully killing women and children.
Speaker 2: I think of, you know, like, uh, the machine gunner
Speaker 2: and the helicopter at.
Speaker 4: All?
Speaker 1: What was that movie?
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter, but that they relished in the fact that
Speaker 2: pulling the trigger had no concern or care for collateral damage.
Speaker 2: What's reality as you saw it in Operation Desert Storm.
Speaker 15: Yeah, and it's the opposite is truber what you see
Speaker 15: in these Hollywood movies when you have these cycle paths
Speaker 15: that are trying to, you know, inflict damage upon their
Speaker 15: human beings. Ninety nine point nine nine percent of those
Speaker 15: that serve in the military in our country are always
Speaker 15: number one concerned is not hurting somebody else. And if
Speaker 15: you do have to inflect damage and use these ammunition
Speaker 15: and these rounds to get your point across to get
Speaker 15: your territory, you do a shock and all you get
Speaker 15: the damage over with, you attempt to get the other
Speaker 15: side to concede so that you can stop. And you know,
Speaker 15: and we and that's the way we've concted been this
Speaker 15: in the military. In the last two hundred and sixty
Speaker 15: years of our country. Has there been some outliers where
Speaker 15: there was some things that maybe should happen, of course,
Speaker 15: but that's that one percent of one percent of one
Speaker 15: percent that happened ninety nine point nine percent of people
Speaker 15: in the military. And the way that I was trained
Speaker 15: and brought up in the military is you just have
Speaker 15: a complete one percent on adulterated shock and all program
Speaker 15: where you get to your point across and you get
Speaker 15: it done swiftly and quickly so that the enemy will concede.
Speaker 15: You can move on and we'll stop the damage on
Speaker 15: both sides so that the war will come to and end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking earlier this morning with a retired lieutenant
Speaker 2: colonel about the situation with Russia and Ukraine. And we
Speaker 2: just pray that they'll put end that ridiculous dispute soon
Speaker 2: because the loss of life is just overwhelming. And you know,
Speaker 2: your your your faith in God, is I somehow have
Speaker 2: a sense and having never been in combat or served
Speaker 2: in the American military of a since if you have
Speaker 2: a profound belief that your connection with God and that
Speaker 2: you will be embraced and have this this wonderful after life,
Speaker 2: having you know, served God and committed to your faith,
Speaker 2: does that take the pressure off of the idea of dying?
Speaker 15: It does?
Speaker 4: It gives you you know?
Speaker 15: And you use that a few moments ago. You use
Speaker 15: that example from the movie called The Populips.
Speaker 16: Now people, you know, as a kid, I watched that
Speaker 16: movie and then later I was put myself on a
Speaker 16: battlefield and I asked myself, what in the world have
Speaker 16: I done so.
Speaker 15: Yes, the people that I served with, the majority of
Speaker 15: us were Christians. We had a few people that were
Speaker 15: in my platoon that were Buddhists and so forth. But
Speaker 15: everybody had some type of outer spiritual connection to a
Speaker 15: Lord or something they believe was a Lord, or something
Speaker 15: that they believe was their savior. They're guiding universal force.
Speaker 15: And without me having that universe of force, I don't
Speaker 15: think I could have mentally or cognitively gotten true. So
Speaker 15: for me having that spiritual connection to my Lord at
Speaker 15: that point in my time, not only did it resonate
Speaker 15: with me and my fellow brother that I was on
Speaker 15: the battlefield, that gave me that chance to be able
Speaker 15: to stay connected with the Lord and that relationship with
Speaker 15: my Savior. It stayed with me my whole life.
Speaker 7: It's with me.
Speaker 15: You know, I just said a prayer, you know, only
Speaker 15: fifteen minutes ago, to make sure I speak well and
Speaker 15: I do a good job to you know, to serve
Speaker 15: my country and to serve my fellow sisters and brothers
Speaker 15: that are serving right now, so that I can do
Speaker 15: an excellent job. And I did this relationship where I
Speaker 15: feel like the Lord comes through me, he guides in
Speaker 15: my life at a where I'm going to go every day,
Speaker 15: and it just seems like it's just a part of
Speaker 15: my life. And I think you know, in our communities
Speaker 15: in our country, most of our country, about seventy percent
Speaker 15: of it this Christian base.
Speaker 7: So we do have this.
Speaker 15: Well that do embrace it, do use it. They can
Speaker 15: actually have a better life, help themselves and to just
Speaker 15: have a better life that's connected to our Lord.
Speaker 2: So did your service in the American military, along of
Speaker 2: course with your profound faith which is coming through clearly,
Speaker 2: did that serve you in your business world? Because I
Speaker 2: understand that you have a very successful might be jealous
Speaker 2: about this corvette car dealership in Dallas, Texas. See you
Speaker 2: sell exclusively corvettes.
Speaker 15: Yes, and absolutely the name of my business is Corvette Warehouse.
Speaker 15: If you can just Google search a Corvette Warehouse, you
Speaker 15: can't miss it. We're the largest corvette dealer in the Southwest.
Speaker 15: And the skill sets in the military absolutely on, definitely,
Speaker 15: without a doubt, added to the business sense of mine,
Speaker 15: my business acumen. They teach you skill sets in the
Speaker 15: military like how to get things done, how to make
Speaker 15: things happen, how to work with a team, just playing
Speaker 15: all down to to the nitty gritty skill sets that
Speaker 15: you need in life to be successful, things that you
Speaker 15: need to need and life to be happy, to be fulfilled,
Speaker 15: to be able to work hard, and then no one
Speaker 15: to take the break and sit on the sideline. So
Speaker 15: I learned these skill sets and I had the best
Speaker 15: mentors and the best leaders anyone could ever ask for
Speaker 15: in the military. When I was in the infantry, I
Speaker 15: had the best leaders. When I was in a staff job,
Speaker 15: working at a brigade, when I was doing boring workle
Speaker 15: supply and signing for millions dollars of equipment and never
Speaker 15: being on the field, you know, being in a hotel
Speaker 15: room if you will. I never had a bad leader.
Speaker 15: I've been so fortunate. I've met so many people. I've
Speaker 15: everybody in the military, the most nine to nine point
Speaker 15: nine percent of them want to get ahead. They want
Speaker 15: to educate themselves, they want to learn, they want to
Speaker 15: be good parents, they want to be good people that
Speaker 15: want to take care of themselves physically. So learning these
Speaker 15: skill sets one percent gave me access to the knowledge.
Speaker 15: It gave me access where to go get the knowledge
Speaker 15: I need. And when I got out of the military,
Speaker 15: I set my goal. You know that I was a
Speaker 15: hobby that I loved playing with Corvette, that I wanted
Speaker 15: to do something I love and I was passionate about.
Speaker 15: And I definitely understood that these skill sets let me
Speaker 15: into the direction I'm using my falling in life so
Speaker 15: that I could be good at it, but also having
Speaker 15: something fun I can enjoy.
Speaker 5: Every day of my life.
Speaker 15: And one of other things I'd like to that book
Speaker 15: on the Spirit of a True Patriot, I write about
Speaker 15: the skill sets you learned in the military. You know,
Speaker 15: the quick heuristics, the shortcuts, theology, being on the move,
Speaker 15: always doing something, to have your body in motion every day.
Speaker 15: If you have your body in motion, your inersial forces
Speaker 15: will propel you forward. You can't be three hundred pounds
Speaker 15: overweight and expect to be a great business leader. You
Speaker 15: can't be four hundred pounds overweight and expect to be
Speaker 15: a great parent, because you're going to pass those skill
Speaker 15: sets off to your children. So I learned that if
Speaker 15: I can one and ten percent use the skill sets
Speaker 15: that I learned in the military and passes off to people,
Speaker 15: that actually reinforces my skill sets and it gives me
Speaker 15: a sense of satisfaction to fulfillment that I've done the
Speaker 15: best I can do by passing off these heuristics that
Speaker 15: I learned to other people in this world.
Speaker 2: So the name of the book is the spirit of
Speaker 2: a true pay to the inspiring story of my guest today,
Speaker 2: Retired Captain Douglas j Ernest. Who are you hoping reads
Speaker 2: this book? I mean, I obviously had a target audience
Speaker 2: in mind, and I presume it's maybe the entrepreneurial folks
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 1: But who else might benefit from a book? Douglas?
Speaker 15: You know that's a great question, and I was when
Speaker 15: I wrote this book. My intent was to direct it
Speaker 15: towards people that were thinking about military service or those
Speaker 15: the parents that were thinking about military story, because that's
Speaker 15: where my aim was. But as I wrote the book,
Speaker 15: I was told later by friends and colleagues, man, that's
Speaker 15: a good book. That's a management book, that's an executive
Speaker 15: leadership book. And I didn't recognize that part of it
Speaker 15: until after I wrote it, because I had been living
Speaker 15: this life of leadership and going to leadership school, and
Speaker 15: it's just ambred character. It's a part of my life.
Speaker 15: Later when I read it, I've been told, and I
Speaker 15: reread the book.
Speaker 12: Over and over that it is.
Speaker 15: It is a management book. It is something how you
Speaker 15: can not only manage a business, manage your life, manage
Speaker 15: your career, but also have a better life with your physical,
Speaker 15: with your spiritual, with your children, being a great parent,
Speaker 15: being involved in your community. It just has just basic
Speaker 15: shortcuts they teach you in the When I joined the military,
Speaker 15: I was twenty five pounds overweight. After I joined the military,
Speaker 15: that weight was gone and I've never put that on.
Speaker 15: I'm in the best physical shape you can possibly imagine.
Speaker 15: For the last thirty years of my life. I feel
Speaker 15: like I'm twenty years old.
Speaker 5: And it's because of this that.
Speaker 15: They taught me in the military. Well, Book of a
Speaker 15: True Patriot has those shortcuts in there that you can
Speaker 15: use to make improvements in your life. And I believe
Speaker 15: it will help anyone that will take the plunge and
Speaker 15: go spend the fifteen bucks to take the opportunity and
Speaker 15: buy the book.
Speaker 2: Well, and I'm sure it sounds extremely uplifting and inspirational,
Speaker 2: and that's a lot. Well, that's a lot of what
Speaker 2: we need right now. Douglas Ernest, thanks again for your
Speaker 2: service to our country and for the inspiring book. I'll
Speaker 2: encourage my listeners to get a copy of it, which
Speaker 2: will make them easy to do at fifty five KRC
Speaker 2: dot com. Will add it to our blog page with
Speaker 2: a link to buy a copy. Thanks again, man, it's
Speaker 2: been inspiring talking with you. Man, it really has well.
Speaker 12: Thank you very much.
Speaker 15: I greatly appreciate you, and I appreciate you getting the
Speaker 15: message out to those people out there that need want
Speaker 15: it some more than's good stuff. So help our nation
Speaker 15: it prosperous and continue this nation for another two hundred
Speaker 15: and sixty years.
Speaker 1: Amen to that, brother.
Speaker 2: You have a fantastic week, you too, coming to an
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Speaker 2: about eighty thirty one to fifty five carsite talk station.
Speaker 2: A very happy Friday to you, really inspirational Friday on
Speaker 2: the heels of the spirit of a true Patriot, which,
Speaker 2: of course, author Douglas Ernest was very, very.
Speaker 1: Very profound man of faith.
Speaker 2: I'm happy to welcome to the fifty five carssee Morning
Speaker 2: show author of All for his Glory The Near Death
Speaker 2: Experience of a Modern day job, Pastor David Scarlett. Pastor
Speaker 2: David is a pleasure to have you on the fifty
Speaker 2: five carsee morning show today.
Speaker 12: Well, thank you for having me. It's a pleasure.
Speaker 2: Well, and my father had a dear friend of his
Speaker 2: who was a I think he was a heart surgeon.
Speaker 2: He was a physician of some sort who ended up
Speaker 2: on the operating table and died and they brought him back.
Speaker 2: But when he died, he had one of those you know,
Speaker 2: post death experiences, and he was in the operating room
Speaker 2: looking down on the operating table where he was lying.
Speaker 2: And my recollection is he met his mom who had
Speaker 2: passed prior to his passing, and had this unbelievable post
Speaker 2: death experience, only to be revived by the wonderful physicians
Speaker 2: who were taking great care of him at the time,
Speaker 2: and from that point forward he didn't have a care
Speaker 2: or worry in the world. My understanding is something comparable
Speaker 2: that happened to you. You were a former US marine
Speaker 2: and you're telecommunications executive and also founder of His Glory Ministry.
Speaker 2: Tell my listeners about your story in brief, which of
Speaker 2: course they're going to read about in your book.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's exactly very similar to what you just described.
Speaker 12: I was the least likely still in the least likely
Speaker 12: person on the face ear to be a pastor and
Speaker 12: run a ministry that reaches twenty five million people in
Speaker 12: every country of the world. But God had a different plan.
Speaker 12: I rose the corporate ladder after being a marine, a
Speaker 12: three director of three portram in our companies, lots of ego,
Speaker 12: lots of money, and the Lord had a different plan.
Speaker 12: So on seven seven seven, I got a bad chili
Speaker 12: dog which had botulism toxin and I ended up dying
Speaker 12: three times. The first time that they put me into
Speaker 12: the Cleveland clinic was Friday the thirteenth. I died that night,
Speaker 12: but I didn't have an near death experience. They revived me,
Speaker 12: could put me on a breathing tube, and then they
Speaker 12: tried to pull the plug again. And that's when I
Speaker 12: went to have it. I immediately saw the panic on
Speaker 12: the doctor's look on their faces. And when you're in
Speaker 12: the Cleveland clinic, I see you, and you see the
Speaker 12: Cleveland Clinic doctor's panic, you know it's probably not good.
Speaker 12: And the pain took There was no pain, there was
Speaker 12: no anxiety. Life took me up to the saw the
Speaker 12: beauty of heaven. This just unbelievable, joy, peace, love, pake
Speaker 12: sures everything is more vivid than we ever see here
Speaker 12: on the earth. Everything was more of The music was
Speaker 12: music that I've never heard ever. He showed me these
Speaker 12: beautiful mahogany pictures of my life from the time I
Speaker 12: was born to the time to the age. So I
Speaker 12: had to be dead, for I wasn't having probably ten
Speaker 12: fifteen minutes, maybe more, but I think I was only
Speaker 12: clinically dead for two or three minutes. And he showed
Speaker 12: me a couple of key things in those pictures. First,
Speaker 12: those pictures would never take in in my entire life.
Speaker 12: Those are pictures that he took. He showed that in heaven,
Speaker 12: those pictures were perfect, because Heaven is perfect. But he
Speaker 12: later told me that my report card was empty. There's
Speaker 12: nothing I did good for him in those pictures. So
Speaker 12: he brought me back and I was just couldn't believe
Speaker 12: I'd just experienced heaven. They stabilized me, and just as
Speaker 12: I coming back, I said, I didn't see Jesus when
Speaker 12: I was in heaven. I said, Lord, I want to
Speaker 12: see Jesus. I prayed that because I couldn't talk. And
Speaker 12: before I even got that prayer, right at the end
Speaker 12: of my bed, was the Messiah Jesus, and he was
Speaker 12: just glowing, beautiful, beautiful blue eyes and just absolutely love, peace, joy, hope,
Speaker 12: and just overtook the room. So I knew exactly what
Speaker 12: you said that I had no fear from that point on.
Speaker 12: And then it went really bad. I had five surgeries,
Speaker 12: woke up in the stomach surgery right well, they're operating
Speaker 12: on me. Collapse, along, pneumonia, you name it. It happened
Speaker 12: just barely hanging on. They finally got me stable to
Speaker 12: pull the plug again.
Speaker 4: And as soon as they did, they.
Speaker 12: Had all the top doctors and there's probably thirty of
Speaker 12: the top doctors at the Cleveland kind of watching this
Speaker 12: time to make sure nothing would go rock. And sure enough,
Speaker 12: as soon as that happened, it started cold blue, cold
Speaker 12: blue deeping, and I went up. I hovered above them
Speaker 12: exactly the way you described in the hospital room, and
Speaker 12: I saw them and they were panicking, and I said, Lord,
Speaker 12: I feel fine, I feel your love, your joy. I
Speaker 12: don't why are they panicking? And he said, my son,
Speaker 12: I'm going to bring you back. You're going to start
Speaker 12: a ministry called by my name, his Lord. You're going
Speaker 12: to come out of the world and it'd be used
Speaker 12: for me. And again, being a director at AT and T,
Speaker 12: and I was the least likely person to come back
Speaker 12: to drop everything and do that for him. And he
Speaker 12: brought me back. And later there was a nurse that
Speaker 12: was kind of mocking this, saying, you know, I'm not
Speaker 12: sure if you really experienced this. And then I overheard
Speaker 12: two doctors that were in the room, and he says,
Speaker 12: whatever happened in that room, we've never seen a light
Speaker 12: radiate from the top of his bed of his bed before.
Speaker 2: So when I hear you hear the words the peace
Speaker 2: of God, which passes all human understanding, you actually did
Speaker 2: experience a piece of God and do have an understanding
Speaker 2: about what it is.
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, it's absolutely amazing when you get that was
Speaker 12: called in the Hebrew the shalal, that piece that can
Speaker 12: only come from Him. You don't fear anything. You don't
Speaker 12: fear death. People ask me to do you fear death?
Speaker 12: Not at all. When it's time to go home, I'm
Speaker 12: going home and I'm not worried about it. One bet.
Speaker 12: The only thing different this time than the first time
Speaker 12: is my report card's going to be full because I'm
Speaker 12: going to do what he told me. To do, be
Speaker 12: a servant for him and to reach souls.
Speaker 1: Well, David, were you a man of faith before this happened?
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you experienced an enlightenment like few people
Speaker 2: would ever understand going through this experience. But how deep
Speaker 2: was your faith in your connection with with with your
Speaker 2: with your Christianity and your religion prior to this happening
Speaker 2: to you?
Speaker 5: You?
Speaker 12: Well, I was raised. My mother was a prayer warrior.
Speaker 12: She prayed for me many many years, twenty five years
Speaker 12: until I would get to the point in my life
Speaker 12: that I would pick up a Bible. So I thought
Speaker 12: it was about me. If I was going to get there,
Speaker 12: it is going to be my own doing. So I
Speaker 12: was a nine one one Christian. I would only pray
Speaker 12: when I was in trouble. As soon as the Lord
Speaker 12: got me out of trouble, I went.
Speaker 1: Back to my worldly ways like a C and E
Speaker 1: Christian right Christmas in Eastern.
Speaker 10: Exactly, and probably.
Speaker 8: Not even that.
Speaker 12: It's just you know, something that was good that I
Speaker 12: needed help with, And once he helped me, I was
Speaker 12: out the door. But I had a severe mentor a
Speaker 12: marital problem, and that's in the book, and that shook
Speaker 12: me to my core just before this near death experience,
Speaker 12: like if I wouldn't have had that, that's what triggered
Speaker 12: me to say, wait a minute, maybe it's not about me,
Speaker 12: Maybe I need this search. And I got into the Bible,
Speaker 12: studied King David, and then.
Speaker 10: That started my walk.
Speaker 12: So I truly believe that if that wouldn't have happened,
Speaker 12: I wouldn't have made it to heaven. I thought I
Speaker 12: was saved, but.
Speaker 5: I was not saved.
Speaker 2: So since you talk about it in the book, I
Speaker 2: guess I can ask you, perhaps was your marital issues
Speaker 2: work related?
Speaker 1: Perhaps?
Speaker 12: Yes, I was a workaholic and my wife I took
Speaker 12: over as a director for Ohio and had to move
Speaker 12: my wife and young step daughter, and I was just
Speaker 12: a workaholic and that created an affair on her part
Speaker 12: that went really bad. And most people would have just left.
Speaker 4: But I had a choice, do I leave or do I.
Speaker 12: Stay and humble myself? And how am I going to
Speaker 12: get out of this? Because I was always able to
Speaker 12: get out of things myself through the rising of the
Speaker 12: corporate world, and I couldn't, so I had to get
Speaker 12: on my knees and seek the Lord. And that's what
Speaker 12: started the process and again, if that wouldn't happen, I
Speaker 12: don't think I would have made it to happen.
Speaker 2: Wow, and amazing what you've done with the ministry. And
Speaker 2: if my listeners are interested in checking it out, it's
Speaker 2: his glory dot M the growth of that. It's just
Speaker 2: I don't know clearly you have been blessed. I would
Speaker 2: imagine you were blessed in business, but your life wasn't fulfilled.
Speaker 2: This happened to you, Lord Almighty. You almost ate a
Speaker 2: hot dog to die, and then you built this amazing,
Speaker 2: huge church. I'm just reminded of if there was a
Speaker 2: line from the movie Pappion a Steve McQueen and he
Speaker 2: was standing as a dream sequence and he's stand in
Speaker 2: front of a judge who says you are guilty of
Speaker 2: a wasted life.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Is that the kind of thing when you're when you
Speaker 2: when you said that you were told your report card
Speaker 2: was empty? Is it some sort of Was that that
Speaker 2: the kind of realization or or is that a way
Speaker 2: of summarizing how you felt reflecting on your life.
Speaker 12: That's exactly right. You know, you could be the CEO
Speaker 12: of AT and T. You could create the iPhone. At
Speaker 12: the end of the day, that doesn't impress God, and
Speaker 12: it doesn't matter. It's only what we do for him
Speaker 12: once we accept them in our heart and become servants.
Speaker 12: And that's hard for people to get up the ladder
Speaker 12: and to become a servant and give that all up.
Speaker 12: But that's that's why Satan was thrown out of heaven.
Speaker 10: Is his pride.
Speaker 4: We have to get rid of pride.
Speaker 12: God can't work with a pride, and once we get
Speaker 12: rid of that pride, we can be used for his purpose.
Speaker 4: He can do amazing.
Speaker 12: Thanks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what, Pastor David Scarle has been
Speaker 2: a real inspirational conversation. I'll have my listeners get a
Speaker 2: copy of every book. We'll put it on my blogmin
Speaker 2: podcast page fifty five carosee dot com. All for his
Speaker 2: glory the near death experience of a modern day job.
Speaker 2: You know, I'll tell you what. While you're you're you're
Speaker 2: you're dealing with other of the of the deadly sins,
Speaker 2: figure out a way to get rid of the sin
Speaker 2: of envy. I think that is the root of most
Speaker 2: all of society's problems. Yeah, I agree, David. It's been
Speaker 2: a pleasure having you on the program, So keep up.
Speaker 2: The great work, and I'll encourage my listeners to get
Speaker 2: a copy of the book and get inspired themselves.
Speaker 12: Thank you so much, and God bless you, and God
Speaker 12: bless your career listeners.
Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. Have a wonderful weekend. A forty fifty
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Speaker 2: Damn right, it's a wonderful world.
Speaker 1: Jeez, are.
Speaker 2: A red blue.
Speaker 1: See we're looking in the right place. Well, I am
Speaker 1: looking in the right place today. I always feeling frisky
Speaker 1: on a Friday, But I do.
Speaker 2: Have next week off, and I'm looking forward to exhaling
Speaker 2: and decompressing and uh, purging my brain from all of
Speaker 2: the pollution that is in the news. And it's uh
Speaker 2: it's a tough road to ho to shut that off
Speaker 2: and uh, but you know what, you gotta do it
Speaker 2: every once in while, just exhale and think about what
Speaker 2: is important in the world and look for those little
Speaker 2: things the guy called like life's everyday miracles. Could be
Speaker 2: really tiny, could be something profound, but they're out there
Speaker 2: each and every day if you're thinking about it along
Speaker 2: those lines and you're not dwelling on the negative the
Speaker 2: whole time. So I'm dwelling on the positive this morning,
Speaker 2: and I'm glad my wife's back in town after her conference,
Speaker 2: and I am blessed to have been at that event
Speaker 2: last night. I've been mentioning it quite a few times
Speaker 2: this morning, and not to dwell on it, but I
Speaker 2: want to give a shout out to the Bikers for
Speaker 2: Trump who were I was joking with them, I said,
Speaker 2: are you like the Hell's Angels at the Altamont concert
Speaker 2: with the Rolling Stones? And they were cracking up sick. No,
Speaker 2: We're not here to beat the crap out of anybody,
Speaker 2: but they were helping out, and help out they did,
Speaker 2: and I got to meet some really terrific guys. Bikers
Speaker 2: for Trump, just a fun group of guys, and I've
Speaker 2: been invited to go on a ride with them. Thank
Speaker 2: you to to Jeff for sending out the invitation. Let
Speaker 2: me know that you guys are having a ride at
Speaker 2: the end of the month.
Speaker 1: I said.
Speaker 2: All the guys I used to ride with have moved away,
Speaker 2: so I don't do much of a motorcycle riding. So
Speaker 2: as a consequence, now I have a bunch of guys
Speaker 2: to go ride with. I don't know if I have
Speaker 2: to get one of those bikers for Trump vests, but
Speaker 2: they did say it was okay that I don't ride
Speaker 2: a Harley. They have all kinds of bikes. They kind
Speaker 2: of all look like Harley guys, and I think most
Speaker 2: of them are. But a real great group of guys anyhow,
Speaker 2: And again props to vv ram Ramaswami, terrific candidate and
Speaker 2: I'm just excited about him running for governor of the
Speaker 2: state of Ohio. Also a story I started out with,
Speaker 2: I did mention it also again, but I just have
Speaker 2: to bring it back up because it's just it quite frankly,
Speaker 2: and closing out the show, I hate the phrase it
Speaker 2: this way. It just pisses me off. I think almost
Speaker 2: everything that DOGE is doing, not what they're doing, but
Speaker 2: the revelations they have given us, and it should, it
Speaker 2: should literally piss off anybody who's paying tax dollars and
Speaker 2: they're just revealing so much about how little the government
Speaker 2: gives a whit about how they manage our tax dollars
Speaker 2: and how simple it seems to have been for a
Speaker 2: small group of people rifling through the records using computer,
Speaker 2: artificial and ellligence or however the hell they're doing it
Speaker 2: have been able to uncover things that you'd think in
Speaker 2: the normal order of business government would be doing and
Speaker 2: would have been doing for years and years, and a
Speaker 2: most decent recent revelation on top of already having found,
Speaker 2: you know, tens of millions of people that have been
Speaker 2: dead or never I mean, couldn't be alive. Possibly, they
Speaker 2: started rifling through the uninsured, the unemployment insurance claims, and
Speaker 2: only since twenty twenty. It's not like they went back
Speaker 2: behind twenty twenty, where I'm sure they will find probably
Speaker 2: thousands and thousands of more of this type of claim
Speaker 2: but they found out that individuals who are in no way,
Speaker 2: shape or form possible possibly eligible for unemployment insurance getting
Speaker 2: unemployment insurance benefits children under the age of five, twenty
Speaker 2: eight thousand of them. Remember this is just between twenty
Speaker 2: twenty and I guess maybe we'll say as of yesterday.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they started doing County are twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five, but at least since twenty twenty, say four
Speaker 2: to four years and a few months, twenty eight thousand
Speaker 2: individuals under the age of five years old collected two
Speaker 2: hundred and forty five million dollars in benefits fraud much. Now,
Speaker 2: how isn't that an automatic red flag in the system?
Speaker 2: Birth date not even legal to work at those ages?
Speaker 2: Shouldn't it just be immediately chucked out of the system.
Speaker 2: Don't you think a system that cared would have already
Speaker 2: been built to just forget or deny that type of
Speaker 2: uninsurance or unemployment insurance claim two hundred and forty five
Speaker 2: million in benefits as for those older than one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifteen, and as the reporting points out, the oldest
Speaker 2: person living in the United States is one hundred and fourteen.
Speaker 2: Twenty four thousand, five hundred individuals over the age of
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifteen fifty nine million dollars in benefits claimed,
Speaker 2: and then adding insult to injury because you know, you think, well,
Speaker 2: how much worse can it get? Nine thousand, seven hundred
Speaker 2: individuals who haven't even been born yet birth dates fifteen
Speaker 2: years in the future claimed sixty nine million dollars in
Speaker 2: benefit dose revealed in their words. In one case, someone
Speaker 2: with a birth date in twenty one fifty four claimed
Speaker 2: forty one thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Fraud much.
Speaker 2: Elon must said, your tax dollars are going to pay
Speaker 2: fraudulent unemployment claims for fake people born in the future.
Speaker 2: This is so crazy that I had to read it
Speaker 2: several times before it sank in, which is really one
Speaker 2: of the reasons I focus on this this morning. So
Speaker 2: many times it's just beyond my comprehension. But there you are,
Speaker 2: and there they were outside of the Warren County Republican
Speaker 2: Lincoln Reagan dinner protesting. They even made a comment about that.
Speaker 2: It's like, why what are they doing out there at
Speaker 2: five o'clock on a Thursday evening. Don't they have anything
Speaker 2: better to do? Don't they have families, don't they have
Speaker 2: lives to live that they're standing out there holding a
Speaker 2: sign that no one can possibly read along Mason Montgomery
Speaker 2: Road as we drive along in heavy traffic. Look, we're
Speaker 2: busy trying to find the driveway. We're busy trying to
Speaker 2: navigate the traffic situation. When don't have time to stop
Speaker 2: our cars and turn our heads and look at some
Speaker 2: stupid sign criticizing Elon Musk and doge, which I presume
Speaker 2: some of the signs had for doing work and exposing
Speaker 2: this kind of fraud. And this just is a tiny
Speaker 2: sliver of all the other fraud that they've uncovered in
Speaker 2: this short period of time. Look at what Donald Trump
Speaker 2: and his administration have been able to do in this
Speaker 2: such a fraction, I mean, a few months ferreting out fraud, waste,
Speaker 2: and abuse, and you know, not done with the work.
Speaker 2: And according to Donald Trump, you know, Musk will go
Speaker 2: at some point he's statutorily limited to one hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty days or whatever. He'll move on and go back
Speaker 2: to running his businesses and being successful businessman. But the
Speaker 2: Department of Governmental Efficiency will continue and we can all
Speaker 2: be thankful for that. Yeah, this is the kind of
Speaker 2: information you just kind of have handy with you when
Speaker 2: you run into one of those people who's calling Elon
Speaker 2: Musk satan or something like that, because you know they
Speaker 2: can't defend themselves and you hand them information like this,
Speaker 2: you're like, you're against this.
Speaker 1: Do you pay taxes anyway?
Speaker 2: Tech front of with Dave Hatter, your car is exploiting
Speaker 2: how your car can apparently spy on you if you
Speaker 2: get one of those head units, it's got a camera
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Speaker 1: For reasons that sort of escaped me.
Speaker 2: But New York City Police Department now sending drones all
Speaker 2: over the place sort of really orwelly in reality. That
Speaker 2: and then the latest car technology driving people nutcase. That's
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Speaker 2: experience of a modern day job. Sean McMahon, thank you
Speaker 2: for helping me out all week. You did a wonderful job,
Speaker 2: my friend. I hope you have a wonderful week next week,
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