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<v Speaker 1>Five O five fifty five k r C the talk station.

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<v Speaker 2>A vation.

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<v Speaker 1>There it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you Sean McMahon, Governed four, Joe Strecker, appreciate you

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<v Speaker 2>being here all week man. And a very happy Friday, everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>of course always love Fridays in a very cheerful mood. Thankfully,

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<v Speaker 2>my wife is back from Chicago. She was gone all

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<v Speaker 2>week and that's uh disrupting for someone who realizes so

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<v Speaker 2>much on his wife, but more fundamentally taking a week off.

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<v Speaker 2>So next week I am doing a mental health week.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Carroll's going to adequately take care of the program

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<v Speaker 2>Monday through Thursday, and Kevin Gordon's filling in on next Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>So thanks in advance to Dan and covering for covering

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<v Speaker 2>for me. Well, I well sleep in, which is really

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<v Speaker 2>the only thing I look forward to on vacation. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>staycation and a special shout out and thanks from the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom of my heart to be if being invited last

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<v Speaker 2>night to the Warren Lincoln Reagan Dinner, the reborn kind

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<v Speaker 2>of Republican Party Lincoln Reagan Dinner. I was great because

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<v Speaker 2>Orlando Sonza did the MC work and I quite often

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<v Speaker 2>am asked and I'm honored when I'm asked to introduce people,

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<v Speaker 2>and Orlando, who I dearly love. I think he is

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<v Speaker 2>just an outstanding guy, and I know he's got a

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<v Speaker 2>great political future in front of him. Whatever he chooses

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<v Speaker 2>to do, he's got a great future.

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<v Speaker 1>Period. But he did a great.

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<v Speaker 2>Job facilitating and I was asked to introduce Vivek Ramaswamy,

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<v Speaker 2>which was a distinct pleasure. Our next governor without question.

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<v Speaker 2>That guy is mind blowing. Every time I hear him speak,

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<v Speaker 2>he's just he's inspiring, you know. And I hate to

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<v Speaker 2>draw a parallel with Ronald Reagan, but every time Reagan spoke,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the great communicator, you felt good. He felt

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<v Speaker 2>good about the country, He felt good about what he

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<v Speaker 2>was having to say. He was always uplifting, he had

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<v Speaker 2>positive things to say. That's Ramaswami, without question. And he

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<v Speaker 2>spoke without even looking at a note for I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty minutes or so, and out why all his policies,

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<v Speaker 2>his strategies, his future for Ohio, which is all bright, shiny,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, everything's going to be great, and what an

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<v Speaker 2>inspiring guy he is. And it was just it was

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<v Speaker 2>great being there. I hated to have to bow out

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<v Speaker 2>a little early, but I do get up early, so

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<v Speaker 2>I bailed. I don't know, it was like eight thirty

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<v Speaker 2>or something. The event wasn't over yet. But to everybody

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<v Speaker 2>in Warren County, what a wonderful audience, What a great

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<v Speaker 2>group of people. The Bikers for Trump folks were there,

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<v Speaker 2>all these motorcycle enthusiasts who support Donald Trump, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was invited to us to go out on rides with them.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got to meet those guys and I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>forward to taking a ride or two with them over

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<v Speaker 2>the summertime. So made some new friends, met some you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Frank le Rose was there and gave him a hard

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<v Speaker 2>time because he basically stole my thunder introducing Ramaswambi, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I had all these notes prepared on Promisami's

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<v Speaker 2>background and the of the books he's written, and Frank

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<v Speaker 2>took care of that. When he was speaking, That's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>But I didn't manage to get a few points in.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just I felt great about being invited, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, it's like being with an entire room

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<v Speaker 2>full of friends. You Warren County folks, man, I'm telling

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<v Speaker 2>you you got it all together. I even recounted the

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<v Speaker 2>story about my wife after the November election, when the

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<v Speaker 2>Hamilton kind of returns came in. She's like, we need

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<v Speaker 2>to leave Hamilton County. And I looked out in the room.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking Warden County. Maybe, yeah, exactly. So anyway, wonderful event.

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<v Speaker 2>Although and the only reason I'm explain this only because

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<v Speaker 2>when I pulled into the Manor House driveway, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the leads to the Manor House where the event was

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<v Speaker 2>taking place of right off Mason Montgomery Road. There are

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<v Speaker 2>protesters out there. I don't know about maybe twenty five thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't count them. I didn't read the signs that

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<v Speaker 2>they were holding, but you know, and I came in,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, are those people protesting? Everyone was like yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And vv Robinson. I mean I actually went out and

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<v Speaker 2>spoke with him, which I thought was a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can't got the impression that they didn't realize

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<v Speaker 2>why they were out there. But as I pointed out

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<v Speaker 2>to the audience, it's Thursday at five pm. What are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing at Thursday at five pm? You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>my children have grown, but you know, I'm thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>sitting down with the family and having dinner and under

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<v Speaker 2>no circumstance in my entire life, and I've been political

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<v Speaker 2>since I think the age of sixteen. Juck Barkholtz, you're

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<v Speaker 2>out there. Thank you very much for encouraging me and

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<v Speaker 2>my dad. God bless my dad, because of course my

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<v Speaker 2>politics came from my dad and our dinner table discussions

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<v Speaker 2>about politics, which quite often pissed my sister off. But

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<v Speaker 2>I had never considered going to a protest. If Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>are having a meeting, if they have a support for,

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<v Speaker 2>like some candidate they want to elect an office, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I am not getting off of my chair. I am

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<v Speaker 2>not interrupting my daily routine. I am not going to

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<v Speaker 2>go stand out in front of a roadway with a sign.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the point You're not going to convince anyone that's

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<v Speaker 2>driving in that you did? Oh well, I read a

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<v Speaker 2>song and I'm going to give up on the war

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<v Speaker 2>and a Republican party, and I'm not going to attend

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<v Speaker 2>the Lincoln Reagan dinner because of what you're saying. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what point they were trying to make,

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<v Speaker 2>but the point I came across is that they have

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely nothing better to do in their lives. With the

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<v Speaker 2>standby road where with a stupid sign saying you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump fascist or something. And again, you know you're driving

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<v Speaker 2>down the road, I'm paying attention to the road, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>minding traffic. I'm pulling into the driveway because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't spend a lot of time at the manor house.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to make sure I'm at the right place.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna stop and like, let me see, let

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<v Speaker 2>me let me read what's on your signs, which is

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<v Speaker 2>why I had to go in and ask people were

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<v Speaker 2>they in fact protesting what's going on in here today?

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<v Speaker 2>Which was well, the Lincoln Reagan dinner had some great

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<v Speaker 2>speakers there, and of course keynote speaker vivig Ramiswamy, who,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, if they listened to what he had to say,

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<v Speaker 2>they probably would have been inspired about the future of

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<v Speaker 2>the state of Ohio under his leadership, which will begin

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<v Speaker 2>next November after he's elected.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever, I just I felt, you know, on some level,

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<v Speaker 2>I felt kind of sorry for him. Thursday at five pm,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were on a timetable too. I think somebody

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<v Speaker 2>else had joked about that they looking at their watches.

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<v Speaker 2>We're supposed to be here for two hours or an

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<v Speaker 2>hour and a half, and that's what we're being paid

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<v Speaker 2>for or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Anyway, I'm sorry, it is Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in a good mood. I want to hear from

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<v Speaker 2>you if you got something to say. Five one, three, seven,

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<v Speaker 2>four nine fifty five hundred eight hundred eight two three talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do the rundown. It is Tech Friday. Dave Hatter

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<v Speaker 2>coming up at six thirty. Love talking with Dave today

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<v Speaker 2>in the Orwell Report, a car exploit allows you to

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<v Speaker 2>spy on drivers in real time. Okay, New York police

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<v Speaker 2>departments sending drones to the sites of nine to one

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<v Speaker 2>one calls. And third topic, the latest car technology is

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<v Speaker 2>starting to drive people crazy, so we have cars in

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<v Speaker 2>the Tech Friday Report, the RWORL Report. Troy Day they

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<v Speaker 2>Trust in Valor program. It's a program for veterans and

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<v Speaker 2>first responders. So he'll join the program at seven o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about that. You know, I love my first

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<v Speaker 2>responders and my veteran friends out there, so Troy Day

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<v Speaker 2>will give us the trust in Valid rundown. Daniel Davis

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<v Speaker 2>Deep Dive couldn't get him on Tuesday. Do technical difficulties Today?

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<v Speaker 2>We get him back, and I saw NATO SAMs the

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<v Speaker 2>United States involvement. We're talking about troop deployment, peacekeeping troops

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<v Speaker 2>in the event there is a negotiated peace deal. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess they feel the need to have some presence there

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<v Speaker 2>of troops, although it's widely noted that since they have

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<v Speaker 2>sat on their hands and not done anything by way

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<v Speaker 2>of funding their own various militaries and all these European

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<v Speaker 2>Union in NATO countries while allowing the United States taxpayers

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<v Speaker 2>to basically handle their defense for the past I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty years plus, they don't have any military resources or

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<v Speaker 2>troops necessarily not as many is they would need to

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<v Speaker 2>fund and manage the troop levels too, I guess ensure

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<v Speaker 2>whatever piece deal that's reached is upheld. Well, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>we get, Daniel Davis. So Daniel Davis and I will

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that. Captain Douglas Ernest will join the program

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<v Speaker 2>at eight o'clock. The Spirit of a True Patriot The

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<v Speaker 2>Inspiring Story of Retired to Captain Douglas j Ernest, So

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<v Speaker 2>he'll be on at eight o'clock to talk about that book.

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<v Speaker 2>And then military pastor David Scarlett with his book all

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<v Speaker 2>for his glory. The near death experience of a modern

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<v Speaker 2>day job. That'll be at eight thirty. So interesting and

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<v Speaker 2>fun rundown this morning, and great topics to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>We may see the end of daylight saving time. I

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<v Speaker 2>know the Democrats and Republicans have been sitting down actually

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<v Speaker 2>talking about that, and I welcome whatever resolution they get,

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<v Speaker 2>as long as we don't change the clocks anymore. Let's see.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just a multitude of different stories I got in

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<v Speaker 2>front of me. But since it is five point fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll pause and we'll give you an update on more

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<v Speaker 2>information from DOGE. I guess the protesters probably angry at

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk, but people who haven't even been born yet

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<v Speaker 2>have been filing jobless claims. Okay, that among other new

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<v Speaker 2>revelations from the Department of Government Efficiency, which apparently will

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<v Speaker 2>continue even after Elon Musk leaves. Thank you to the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump administration for creating the concept and for bringing to

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<v Speaker 2>our attention, generally and collectively speaking, Republicans, Democrats, independence, communist, socialists,

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<v Speaker 2>and all political stripes the insanity and waste of government

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<v Speaker 2>don't go away.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be right back about krc DE Talk Station. Have

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<v Speaker 1>to try.

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<v Speaker 2>A little motorhead and get you out of bed, as

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<v Speaker 2>his tradition, money talent.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanking Sean for pumping up the jam there.

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<v Speaker 2>Let us see here, I wanted to get to this

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<v Speaker 2>doughs thing real quick. And it's you know again, within

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<v Speaker 2>the context of people protesting Elon Musk, Evil Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 2>former the Savior of the planet. With his electric vehicles

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<v Speaker 2>that don't commit any carbon or pollutants. He invented rocket

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<v Speaker 2>ships that can land themselves like a nineteen fifties science

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<v Speaker 2>fiction movie, employees hundreds of thousands of people. He rescued

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<v Speaker 2>astronauts from outer space, and he didn't do it personally.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, he's a brilliant businessman. He's a brilliant

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<v Speaker 2>man himself. But he assembled a team of geniuses who

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<v Speaker 2>effectively run these countries or these companies. And that's what

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<v Speaker 2>he's trying to turn the government into an efficient, well

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<v Speaker 2>oiled machine. Somebody's got to do it. It's respect for

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<v Speaker 2>your labor. Ultimately, the taxpayer dollars that you sent to Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>and they just don't give a crap about how they

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<v Speaker 2>spend them. They're not interested in keeping the and minding

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom line. Because they don't have to mind that

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<v Speaker 2>they don't create something, they don't you know, build, or

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<v Speaker 2>they don't provide goods or services that you and I

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<v Speaker 2>would consume that will be profitable. They subsist on your

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<v Speaker 2>labor with zero obligation like a fiduciary obligation to properly

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<v Speaker 2>spend it and mind the store. So what do we

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<v Speaker 2>of Government Efficiency posted serve unemployment insurance claims since twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>They found individuals under the age of five as well

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<v Speaker 2>millions of dollars in benefits. This is based upon an

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<v Speaker 2>since twenty twenty, revealing the twenty eight thousand individuals between

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<v Speaker 2>Collected two hundred and fifty four million dollars in benefits,

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<v Speaker 2>and men go, well, you know, government spends billions and

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty four thousand, five hundred individuals over the age of

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<v Speaker 2>because they don't exist yet. Seven hundred individuals with birth

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<v Speaker 2>dates fifteen years in the future claims sixty nine million

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<v Speaker 2>of Government Efficiency. In one case, someone with a birth

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars. So all those you know there's aborted babies

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<v Speaker 2>They're claiming unemployment insurance court to the Elon Musk state.

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<v Speaker 2>But your tax dollars are going to pay fraudulent unemployment

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<v Speaker 2>claims for fake people born in the future. Sure, this

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<v Speaker 2>safe to say that anyone one hundred and fifteen or

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<v Speaker 2>check for impossibly young or impossibly old people for unemployment insurance.

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<v Speaker 2>You see what I'm talking about here, something that's so

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<v Speaker 2>antiquated computer systems that are dealing with these various claims

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<v Speaker 2>in these various administrations. But how difficult do you think

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<v Speaker 2>Dave Hatterill come over and figure this crap out, and

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<v Speaker 2>probably about five minutes. Do we have anybody in the

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<v Speaker 2>system that has a birthday that makes them older than

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<v Speaker 2>the oldest living human being in the Yeah, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>Well let's stop that from happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Labor Secretary Lori Chavez d Raymer said, another incredible discovery

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<v Speaker 2>in fraudulent unemployment payments. We will catch these thieves and

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<v Speaker 2>keep working to root out egregious fraud. Accountability is here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see some serious prosecutions on this. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to see people locked up. I want examples made

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<v Speaker 2>and to everybody behind the scenes working in these various

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<v Speaker 2>departments over the years. Where in the hell have you been.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did it take the reelection of Donald Trump and

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<v Speaker 1>Why?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and look what a short period of time.

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<v Speaker 2>And look at all that we have learned since January.

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<v Speaker 2>prior administrations, including the former Trump administration. And I know

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<v Speaker 2>he had a lot on his plate. They kept him

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<v Speaker 2>hearings left and right, and all the other revelations that

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<v Speaker 2>But this problem, this seemingly easily solvable problem, has been

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<v Speaker 2>seemingly simple solution. Let's just check the data and see

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<v Speaker 2>if we've got dead people on the rolls. Let's just

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's going to the pund so here before we

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<v Speaker 2>get to the local stories, Pete, welcome to the program. In

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<v Speaker 2>a very Happy Friday to you, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks Brian and the subject of incarcerating all these people

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<v Speaker 3>that are stealing us blind. It costs US thirty six

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<v Speaker 3>an ankle bracelet where they can only go to work

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<v Speaker 3>of that, then they do get the incarceration, but get

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<v Speaker 4>Six thousand dollars, you're to keep these.

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<v Speaker 3>Plows and also leave them with a felony hanging over them.

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<v Speaker 3>They could get eliminated if they pay everything back and

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's an idea. All I know is is ankle

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<v Speaker 2>understand the cost of prison, but you know prison is

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have any easy solutions of those problems, quite honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>WCPO for reporting. I'll give you props to let us

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<v Speaker 2>see here. Dan Monk and paula Christian Since an Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>in Hemon County asking Ohio lawmakers daylight and dollars short

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<v Speaker 2>for the ask, it's been three hundred and fifty million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars on renovations the pay Corpse Stadium. As they write

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<v Speaker 2>Dan and Paula, the surprise request comes after the House

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<v Speaker 2>already passed the budget, which gave the Cleveland Brown six

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<v Speaker 2>hundred million dollars of state bonds to build the domed stadium. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>the joint request asked for roughly forty two percent of

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<v Speaker 2>without citation or authority, they say, predicted to trigger five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred million dollars in new investment at the Bank's entertainment district. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>where did that figure come from? But and there's always

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<v Speaker 2>Governor Mike Dwine also described as surprise at the request.

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<v Speaker 2>He met with then Hamilton County Commissioner president of Alisheriz

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<v Speaker 2>I've not seen anybody in the state legislator put this forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Their discussion with me was a general deon. I got

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<v Speaker 2>any kind of agreement. Governor de Wine speaking with WCPO

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<v Speaker 2>back in or April. First, it's not an accident. This

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<v Speaker 2>That will be the amendment in the budget which only

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<v Speaker 2>to be written into the bill. Quote, we've not received

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<v Speaker 2>an asked about any other proposal. Okay, that may be coming,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was not on my desk at the time

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<v Speaker 2>this budget is done. You feel we are incompetent hands

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<v Speaker 2>five thirty six. If you five carsen talk station, don't

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<v Speaker 2>go away, William, I will be happy to take your

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<v Speaker 1>We return and stick around.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course we can even when Joe's not here. Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're happy. I have a listener, Jeffrey, you

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<v Speaker 2>who was first in line. Tom hang on, William, Welcome

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<v Speaker 5>Sir Bryan.

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<v Speaker 6>You make so much good points. But the thing it

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<v Speaker 6>I mean not lawyers. I'm sorry, the judges of Keith

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<v Speaker 6>interfering with the progress of us moving forward. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>there's got to be some way that this can stop.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we need better informed voters. If the majority of

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<v Speaker 2>folks want tough being, want people to be tough on

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<v Speaker 2>law enforcement, as opposed to these woke lawyers. These you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what is in the name of social justice.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I are responsible for electing them. And when

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<v Speaker 2>through due process beyond a reasonable doubt, and yet they

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<v Speaker 2>are given a slap on the hand. Then we need

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<v Speaker 2>to do something about it. We have no one to

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<v Speaker 2>blame but ourselves. Under the current system, all the way

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<v Speaker 2>judges are are elected. So you're right, I'm not arguing

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you there, Brien, there's no argument. But the thing

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<v Speaker 6>is is that the but the Biden administration, they've seen

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about judicial appointments.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Every administration gets the opportunity to appoint judges and

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<v Speaker 2>you and I have no control over that. But as voters,

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<v Speaker 2>we do have control over who's president and who we elect.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course under the Trump administration, you're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to get a bunch of woke judges appointed to the

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<v Speaker 2>federal bench. Once they're there, they're there. I mean, elections

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<v Speaker 2>have consequences and they have lasting consequences. Look at the

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<v Speaker 2>makeup of the Supreme Court. Nothing pisses the liberals off

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<v Speaker 2>as much as the makeup of the Supreme Court and

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<v Speaker 2>they're angry and they know elections have consequences as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But fortunately the opportunity to appoint Supreme Court justice came

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<v Speaker 2>up under yah Republican administration. So while you have a

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<v Speaker 2>goofy sort of makeup, it's still a five to four

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<v Speaker 2>most of the time conservative leaning court, which means strict

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<v Speaker 2>constitutional interpretation as opposed to judicial activism, which is basically

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, at least on one levels, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>us to secure and maintain our Second Amendment right to

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<v Speaker 2>keep in bare arms, among other decisions that have come

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<v Speaker 2>out of this Supreme Court, you know, pairing back of

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<v Speaker 2>the administrative state by virtue of the for example, the

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<v Speaker 2>West Virginia versus EPA decision, No, you can't call a

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<v Speaker 2>tablespoon of water on private property a navigable stream. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's been some great decisions. Had we as an American

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<v Speaker 2>population gone different direction and not elected Trump during the

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<v Speaker 2>first term, we would not have the makeup of the

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court, and we would have a federal government that

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<v Speaker 2>would override and trample upon our rights even more than

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<v Speaker 2>they're already doing. You know, I mean, what more can

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<v Speaker 2>you say about the process. This is the way our

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<v Speaker 2>country is run. It's the way it works, and we

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<v Speaker 2>deal with the consequences of bad decisions. Joe Biden being

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<v Speaker 2>elected bad decision. I know some say it was stolen,

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not we ended up with him. Look what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Five forty five if you five KR City talk station,

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<v Speaker 2>get five fifty two if you have Ksity talk station

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<v Speaker 2>and jumping over to the phones. Tom's been waiting, Tom,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for holding over the break.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in the morning shown Brian.

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<v Speaker 8>So, I got a question for you. When you go

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<v Speaker 8>to sleep at night, do you leave every light on

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<v Speaker 8>in your house all night long, all year round?

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<v Speaker 7>No?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, So these Bengals owners, I don't know the county pays,

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<v Speaker 8>leaves those lights on that stadium all night long, every

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<v Speaker 8>day of the year. Really want to waste the money.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll grant you that I was not aware that that

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<v Speaker 2>was the case. I really was not. I remember the

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<v Speaker 2>old days, remember the energy crisis in the nineteen seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>Prior to that, they used to do the light up

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati nights was you know, across the country they do

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<v Speaker 2>light up Chicago, light up New York, and people would

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<v Speaker 2>leave the lights on intentionally. And then we had an

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<v Speaker 2>energy crisis, and then it was beat make sure you

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<v Speaker 2>turned the lights off. There were little signs above the switches,

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<v Speaker 2>turn the lights off, save energy. So yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's an important thing to do. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>why they leave them on. Maybe it's just to make

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<v Speaker 2>the skyline look prettier, but yeah, taxpayer expense, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>light pollution. Good point, David, Welcome to the Morning Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for calling on a happy Friday to you, sir.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks to you.

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<v Speaker 7>Brian.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey.

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<v Speaker 9>I was talking about the judges previous collar before the

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<v Speaker 9>time there, and I understand you made them. You made

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<v Speaker 9>them when I was thinking that once they're appointed, there's.

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<v Speaker 7>Nothing good about it.

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<v Speaker 4>This is how it is.

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<v Speaker 9>I guess you can't tire them like I think you

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<v Speaker 9>can't some judges, but may you're.

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<v Speaker 10>Not certain judges and the way you said.

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<v Speaker 9>We elect the judges and stuff for or no matters

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<v Speaker 9>of dinner and prow to repose. And so my point

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<v Speaker 9>is it seems like that even though I guess there's

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<v Speaker 9>no black and white when it comes to law, because

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<v Speaker 9>they judge depending on his I guess, uh political way

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<v Speaker 9>of thinking. Uh, that's how you just want to think

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<v Speaker 9>about it. And uh, it's not going to be. I

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<v Speaker 9>don't think it's real fair. I don't think there's no

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<v Speaker 9>such thing as a blind justice anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you obviously didn't call looking for an argument. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there are so many law schools that teach and preach

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<v Speaker 2>this idea of the you know, uh, the sort of

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<v Speaker 2>judicial activism as if a judge sitting on the bench

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<v Speaker 2>is in a position to sort of legislate from the bench,

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<v Speaker 2>that is not their role. Their role is to interpret

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<v Speaker 2>the law within the confines of the Constitution United States

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<v Speaker 2>of America or the States, or in the case of

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<v Speaker 2>criminal law, dispense justice and of course sentence within the

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<v Speaker 2>confines of the sentencing regulations. I mean, at least those

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<v Speaker 2>are defined very clearly. You can be light on sentencing

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<v Speaker 2>or strict on sentencings, but they come within you know,

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<v Speaker 2>written guidelines. But as far as judicial activism, it's concerned

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people believe the Constitution is this living, breeding, evolving,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, capable of being molded into whatever current reality.

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<v Speaker 2>And going back to the Second Amendment thing, that was

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<v Speaker 2>the point of that that very important decision that was

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<v Speaker 2>handed down. What what were the found what was on

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<v Speaker 2>the laws, what were the what was the realities of

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<v Speaker 2>the right to keep in bear arms At the time

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<v Speaker 2>the Founding fathers enshrined the Second Amendment right to keep

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<v Speaker 2>in bear arms, very few restrictions. I mean, you get

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<v Speaker 2>have a twelve year old with a rifle and that

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<v Speaker 2>was aoka and understood and perfectly abceptible. Back then, were

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<v Speaker 2>there issues with you know, young people maybe discharging firearms

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<v Speaker 2>or going crazy with them running them. I imagine they're

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<v Speaker 2>probably were because there's always been crazy people and accidents

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<v Speaker 2>have always happened. But they took that into consideration. So

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<v Speaker 2>a strict construction is a properly within the confines and

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<v Speaker 2>the meaning of the Constitution says, listen, you have the

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<v Speaker 2>right to keep the bear arms. Or if, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not within the constitution some federal power that they

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<v Speaker 2>seek to control our mind, our lives is not within

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<v Speaker 2>the powers vested in the federal government, then I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>it's extra constitutional, ergo fundamentally illegal. Now some liberal person

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<v Speaker 2>with this broad interpretation of this living, breathing constitution and

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<v Speaker 2>documents say well, you know, well it isn't within the

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<v Speaker 2>confines of the Constitution, and it's not expressly written there

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<v Speaker 2>I can determine that, and then they'll come up with

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<v Speaker 2>some reasoning to say that it's a okay.

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<v Speaker 1>They teach that stuff in law school. You have strict

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<v Speaker 1>construction is.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, law professors, and you got these liberal people

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<v Speaker 2>who say you can pretty much say anything from the bench.

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<v Speaker 2>They're out there and they're everywhere. You need to keep

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<v Speaker 2>that in mind when you're voting, and quite frankly, when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to federal judges and lifetime appointments, unless they

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<v Speaker 2>do something that's illegal or that is subject them to impeachment,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's few and far between, you're stuck with them.

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<v Speaker 2>Fivefty seven, fifty five KARSD Talk Station. I'll be right

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<v Speaker 2>back after the news six o five, a fifty five

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<v Speaker 2>KARSD talk station. A very happy Friday to you, Brian Thomas.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking forward to the bottom of the hour as I

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<v Speaker 2>always do every Friday at six thirty Tech Friday with

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<v Speaker 2>Dave had Or. Today, a car exploit allows you to

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<v Speaker 2>spy on drivers in real time. That's creepy new or

555
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<v Speaker 2>police department sending drones to nine one one calls. That's

556
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<v Speaker 2>creepy and also creepy. The latest tech car technology is

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<v Speaker 2>starting to drive people nuts. So or we'll report bottom

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<v Speaker 2>of the hour Friday with Dave at or one hour

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<v Speaker 2>from Roy Davis joins the program the Trust and Valor program.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to learn all about that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a program that is designed for veterans and first

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<v Speaker 2>responders involving horses.

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Davis deep dive.

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel couldn't join the program on Tuesday to a technical difficulty,

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<v Speaker 2>so today we get Daniel Davis probably giving us a

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<v Speaker 2>further update on Russia and Ukraine, including the NATO countries

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<v Speaker 2>meeting the other day to talk about troop deployment in

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<v Speaker 2>the event that's some negotiated peace deal. The logistic on

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<v Speaker 2>that one is kind of a comical, given that the

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<v Speaker 2>European Union pretty much gave up on funding their military

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<v Speaker 2>or building up arms or the ability to defend themselves

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<v Speaker 2>in the absence of the United States for the past

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<v Speaker 2>multiple decades. So anywhile, I mean, most of them are

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stepping up to the plate now realizing that

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<v Speaker 2>they're in a precarious position in the absence of the

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<v Speaker 2>United States defense dollars and troop presents. They can't defend themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>and that comes at a great cost of the American taxpayer.

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<v Speaker 2>Captain Douglas Earnest the book. At eight o'clock, we'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the spirit of a true Patriot, the inspiring storre

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<v Speaker 2>of retired Captain Douglas Ernst Ernest and military pastor David

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<v Speaker 2>Scarlett joins the program at eight thirty to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>his book All for His Glory, The Near Death Experience of.

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<v Speaker 1>A Modern Day Job.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently died and came back five on three, seven, four,

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<v Speaker 2>nine fifty, five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to

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<v Speaker 2>three talk pound five fifty on AT and T phones.

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<v Speaker 2>I may have to get into the stack of stupid

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<v Speaker 2>since I didn't do any stack of stupid in the

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<v Speaker 2>last hour, since I had phone calls, which is always

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<v Speaker 2>a preference. But I have to go back to this

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<v Speaker 2>two things. I started the program first with a thanks

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<v Speaker 2>to the Warren kind of Republican Party for allowing me

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<v Speaker 2>to be there, and actually introduced the next governor of

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<v Speaker 2>the state of Ohio, Vivek Ramaswami. Brilliant man. He is

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<v Speaker 2>get in touch with his campaign. Help him out. He's

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<v Speaker 2>so far ahead in terms of the primaries. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>I think the other candidates, as decent as you may

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<v Speaker 2>think they are, should probably drop out. He's got more

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<v Speaker 2>endorsements than you can shake a stick at already, and

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<v Speaker 2>the election isn't until next November. But brilliant, dynamic, and

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<v Speaker 2>husiastic speaker. And again I'll go back to my Reagan analogy.

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<v Speaker 2>When you hear Vivek speak, you get a real sense

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<v Speaker 2>of optimism about the future of the state of Ohio,

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<v Speaker 2>a true sense of optimism. And he's got great ideas

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<v Speaker 2>for the state. So I think he's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a wonderful governor. And thanks to everybody that came to

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<v Speaker 2>the Warren County event last night, what a fantastic time.

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<v Speaker 2>And again the protesters outside, what the hell was your point?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I really don't get it. Obviously, you have

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<v Speaker 2>way too much time on your hands. Spend some time

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<v Speaker 2>with your family, go it's dinner time, be at home,

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<v Speaker 2>cook yourself up a meal, and spend some time with

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<v Speaker 2>family or friends. Or maybe they don't have family or

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<v Speaker 2>friends and they have nothing better to do than stand

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<v Speaker 2>outside with a stupid sign that nobody read. Because we're

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<v Speaker 2>busy driving into the parking lot and avoiding running into someone,

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<v Speaker 2>because we don't want to stop in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the road and look at your stupid signs.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyhow, I have newer listeners and say o'clock hour, that

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<v Speaker 2>mean this is going to sound redundant from the five

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock hour. But this whole revelation from DOES yesterday is

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<v Speaker 2>just mind boggling, revealing the absolute stupidity of our federal

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<v Speaker 2>government when comes to mining our taxpayer dollars. Something as

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<v Speaker 2>simplistic as looking through the system and figuring out if

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<v Speaker 2>there were people that are dead or not even born

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<v Speaker 2>yet are getting unemployment benefits. So, I mean, we've dealt

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<v Speaker 2>with the Social Security Department and the problems and they

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<v Speaker 2>ferreed it out that unemployment insurance claim since twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Just twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Forward, twenty four thousan five hundred people over the age

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<v Speaker 2>of one hundred and fifteen years old claim fifty nine

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars in benefits fraud much twenty eight thousand people

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<v Speaker 2>between the ages of one and five claimed unemployment benefits

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<v Speaker 2>to the two hundred and fifty four million dollars, and

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<v Speaker 2>even crazier and seven people with birth dates in the

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<v Speaker 2>future over fifteen years in the future, including one with

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<v Speaker 2>a birth date of twenty one to fifty four that

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<v Speaker 2>claimed forty one thousand benefits, but these collective nine thou

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred people that haven't been born yet claimed sixty

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<v Speaker 2>nine million dollars. According to DOJE, California, New York, and

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<v Speaker 2>Massachusetts accounted for most of these improper claims, totaling three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and five million in unemployment benefits. Additionally, they said

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<v Speaker 2>California accounted for sixty eight percent of the unemployment benefits

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<v Speaker 2>paid to parolees identified the customs, identified by the Customs

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<v Speaker 2>and Border Patrol, on the terrorist watch list, or with

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<v Speaker 2>criminal records.

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<v Speaker 1>Have fun going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Work today realizing that this is the kind of crap

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<v Speaker 2>that goes on with the federal government and its refusal

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<v Speaker 2>to pay any attention whatsoever to how they're spending your money,

652
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<v Speaker 2>and you're going to protest them.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It needs to be repeated over and over and over

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<v Speaker 2>again to these idiots that stand around with signs saying

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk is a Nazi or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can't make this up.

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<v Speaker 2>And thanks to WCPS reporting this, this could come from

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<v Speaker 2>the stack. Is stupid regarding his pay court stadium upgrade. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>props to Dan Monk and paula Christian for writing about

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<v Speaker 2>this and providing a little bit more details than any

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<v Speaker 2>of the other news outlets. I reviewed this story over

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<v Speaker 2>the since I have Bengals and Hamilton Kenny asking Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>lawmakers to spend three hundred and fifty million dollars for

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<v Speaker 2>renovations to pay Corps after the House passed the budget

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<v Speaker 2>the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoops.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course that included six hundred million dollars in state

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<v Speaker 2>bonds for the Cleveland brown so they can build their

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<v Speaker 2>two point seven billion dollar mega complex, funded in large

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<v Speaker 2>part on the Ohio taxpayer dollars. This joint request from

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals and Hamilton County asked the state for forty

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<v Speaker 2>two percent of the eight hundred and thirty million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>pay Course stadium renovation. And I love this. These fun

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<v Speaker 2>facts are what makes it to stack a stupid story. Apparently,

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<v Speaker 2>Senate Finance Committee or Senate Finance Chairman Jerry Sereno said

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<v Speaker 2>that nobody from the Bengals or Hamilton County ever reached

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<v Speaker 2>out to him about the request.

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<v Speaker 1>You wonder what they were doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this whole lease deal problem has been you know,

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<v Speaker 2>something you could see from ten miles away, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>from the moment the contract was signed.

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<v Speaker 1>As bad as it was, you knew at this point

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<v Speaker 1>in time was coming.

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<v Speaker 2>You were gonna have to deal with the stadium upgrades.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna have to negotiate terms of conditions, and if

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<v Speaker 2>it involved our elected body in Columbus, that you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to start working with them early in the process

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<v Speaker 2>to maybe get the state dollars that you're now asking for.

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<v Speaker 2>After the budget was passed, Governor of Wine apparently well

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<v Speaker 2>described as surprise at the request. Last summer, he met

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<v Speaker 2>with Alicia Reese, then Hamilton County Commissioned President, but he

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<v Speaker 2>said he'd never heard anything further from her or any

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<v Speaker 2>specifics of any proposal that was last summer. Speaking with WCPO,

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<v Speaker 2>Dwine said in an interview quote, I've not seen anybody

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<v Speaker 2>in the state legislature put this forward, meaning the request

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<v Speaker 2>that they're asking for now. Their discussion with me was general.

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<v Speaker 2>I got the impression that day and the Bengals had

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<v Speaker 2>not reached any kind of agreement. Well, I suppose he's

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<v Speaker 2>right on that, because my understanding they haven't reached an agreement.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Dwine, for his part, renewed his call for state lawmakers

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<v Speaker 2>to pay for stadium projects wherever they may be, with

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<v Speaker 2>a twenty percent increase on how sports betting tax. But

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't in the budget. What wasn't the budget specifically

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<v Speaker 2>excluded anything involving the Bengals because the bond issue is

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<v Speaker 2>limited to counties with at least one million people. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>Cuyahoga County meets that. Hamilton County does not because we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have more than a million people in the county.

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<v Speaker 2>So the ask itself is outside of the confines of

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<v Speaker 2>what can even be asked for since it's a stadium

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<v Speaker 2>project in a county that with less than a million people.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course House Committee Chairman Brian Stewart told reporters

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<v Speaker 2>back in April first the point of that one million

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<v Speaker 2>people county requirement. This is not an accident, he said.

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<v Speaker 2>This amendment is designed to refer to the Cleveland Browns

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<v Speaker 2>proposal only. Man, the Cleveland Brown family must be really connected.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm not much on speeches, but it's so gratifying to

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<v Speaker 11>leave you wallowing in the mess you've made.

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<v Speaker 1>You're screwed. Thank you, bike.

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<v Speaker 2>Well played. Sean asked for a Republican going back again.

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<v Speaker 2>House Finance Committee Chairman Brian Stewart quote, we've not received

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<v Speaker 2>and asked about any other proposal, okay, meaning referring to

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<v Speaker 2>the Cleveland Browns proposal. They had asked for it, They

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<v Speaker 2>told them what they wanted. We got this two point

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<v Speaker 2>seven billion dollar megacomplex dome stadium thing that we want

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<v Speaker 2>to build the suburbs. Here it is, here's how much

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<v Speaker 2>money we want. They had lobbyists lobbying for it, and

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<v Speaker 2>obviously it worked really well. As for the Bengals project, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>we've not received an asked about any other proposal. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>That may be coming, but it was not on my

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<v Speaker 2>desk at the time. This budget is done.

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<v Speaker 5>I want a dollar.

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<v Speaker 2>Also reported by WACPO in this article, the Bengals don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a state lobbyist at present. The Browns have five

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<v Speaker 2>that according to the Ohio Lobbying Activity Center. Also report

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<v Speaker 2>of the Bengals lost a key ally in the House

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<v Speaker 2>this year when Republican Bill Sites retired. The Governor wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>say whether he would veto portions of the House budget

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<v Speaker 2>if it isn't altered by the Senate, and that maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the last leg upon which the Bengals stands is maybe

743
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<v Speaker 2>a modification by the Senate. Dwayne said, I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to make it very clear that we do not have

745
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<v Speaker 2>this money. Of course, referring back to the tax that

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted to impose on sports betting, we do not

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<v Speaker 2>have this money. If he just bonded the money that

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<v Speaker 2>the Browns want, that's a billion dollars over a pair

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty five years, it's about forty two dollars or

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<v Speaker 2>forty two to forty five million every year out of

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<v Speaker 2>the budget. We do not have that money. We can't

752
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<v Speaker 2>take it away from education. There's a pathway, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>not the pathway. So clearly Governor to one is not

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<v Speaker 2>happy about this provision either. And now the Bengals are

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<v Speaker 2>going in a day late and a dollars short. For

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<v Speaker 2>another ask, Charlie foxtrot comes to mind. My military friends

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<v Speaker 2>know exactly what I'm talking about. If you don't get

758
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<v Speaker 2>the joke, well then you can look up Charlie Foxtrott

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<v Speaker 2>and find out for yourself. Because of course, the FCC

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<v Speaker 2>does not allow me to say out loud what that

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<v Speaker 2>means six seventeen, feel free to call five one, three, seven,

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<v Speaker 2>four nine fifty eight hundred two three talk pound fly

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<v Speaker 2>fifty on at and two phone six a fig about

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<v Speaker 2>car CD Talk Nation. Very very very happy Friday, David, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>extra special. As I segue into a week of vacation,

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Carroll covering for me Monday through Thursday, with Kevin

767
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<v Speaker 2>Gordon taking care of Friday, and thanks and advanced both

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<v Speaker 2>those guys for let me sleep in taking a mental

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<v Speaker 2>health week off, getting away from the insanity that I

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<v Speaker 2>read about every single day. You know it really is.

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<v Speaker 2>It can bear on you after a while, well positively okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and recognizing again going back to Doge's work and the

773
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<v Speaker 2>realization that we find out that hundreds of thousands, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't remember the specific number of illegal immigrants ended up

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<v Speaker 2>receiving Social Security numbers and actually voted in elections, which

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<v Speaker 2>is illegal. The Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act cleared the

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<v Speaker 2>House yesterday. Question mark whether it's going to get to

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<v Speaker 2>the Senate. House voter in favor of the SAVE Act,

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<v Speaker 2>which requires proof of citizensship to vote in federal elections.

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<v Speaker 2>Vote two twenty to two oh eight. All Republicans that

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<v Speaker 2>were there voted in support of the SAVE Act, only

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<v Speaker 2>four Democrats And do you scratch your head and wonder

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<v Speaker 2>about that election integrity anyway. SAVE Act amend's a national

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<v Speaker 2>voter Registration Act in nineteen ninety three, requiring proof of

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<v Speaker 2>US citizenship to registered to vote for federal elections. It

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<v Speaker 2>lists several forms of valid identification to proof citizenship.

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<v Speaker 1>Quote.

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<v Speaker 2>A form of identification issued consistent with the requirements of

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<v Speaker 2>the Real ID Act of two thousand and five that

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<v Speaker 2>includes the applicant is a citizen of the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>namely a valid US passport, US Military ID alongside a

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<v Speaker 2>military record of service showing the applicant's place of birth

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<v Speaker 2>was the United States, A valid government issued photo ID

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<v Speaker 2>showcasing that the individual was born in the US birth

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<v Speaker 2>certificate issued by a state. Chip Roy primary sponsor quote.

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<v Speaker 2>Despite the ridiculous attacks and purposeful misinformation spread about the bill,

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<v Speaker 2>and pleased to see that the House of Representatives once

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<v Speaker 2>again passed the SAVE Act on a well he called

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<v Speaker 2>it bipartisan basis, barely to ensure only US citizens vote

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<v Speaker 2>in election. So I'd like to thanks Speaker Johnson, Chairman Steele,

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<v Speaker 2>and Senator Mike Lee for partnering with me on this effort.

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<v Speaker 2>In order to preserve this republic, we must uphold what

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<v Speaker 2>it means to be able to vote in the United

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<v Speaker 2>States elections. I'm grateful to my colleagues answer the call

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<v Speaker 2>and pass the Save Act. Yeah me too. Election integrity.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a whole lot more work to do, though. Stick

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<v Speaker 2>around Tech Friday with Dave Hatter. We'll start out with

808
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<v Speaker 2>a car exploit that allows you to spy on drivers

809
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<v Speaker 2>in real time. Sounds creepy, probably will be. Things are

810
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<v Speaker 2>usually creepy in the Tech Friday Report. For the nationally

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<v Speaker 2>recognized and award winning segment we call tech Friday with Dave.

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<v Speaker 2>How it brought to you my interest I find on

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<v Speaker 2>my line at interestIt dot com. Because if you're a company,

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<v Speaker 2>you have computers and you may very well have problems,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe not right now, but in the future. Because Davie

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<v Speaker 2>you all the reasons why you will probably end up

817
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<v Speaker 2>with problems and all the ways to avoid it. So

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<v Speaker 2>get Dave and the team on your job to avoid

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<v Speaker 2>them and give you best practices and ensure your systems

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<v Speaker 2>are safe and scire. Welcome back to the morning show,

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<v Speaker 2>Dave hat Or, love talking to you.

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<v Speaker 5>Always good to be here, Brian. I feel the same way,

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<v Speaker 5>and holpeful they're doing some good out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I mean also freaking people out. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get the article because Joe's not here and it doesn't matter,

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<v Speaker 2>but I know what the topic is. Tell us about

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<v Speaker 2>this car exploit that allows you to spy on drivers

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<v Speaker 2>in real time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so this is just one of many, I would say, Brian.

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<v Speaker 5>You may recall we talked about this briefly the Mozilla

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<v Speaker 5>privacy non included website and their expose of newer model cars.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it was the end of twenty twenty three

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<v Speaker 5>when it came out. But this is pointing out though.

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<v Speaker 5>Just reiterate something you and I talk about all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>The so called Internet of things.

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<v Speaker 4>Aaka smart devices.

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<v Speaker 5>You're smart coffee maker, your smart TV, a stat your doorbell,

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<v Speaker 5>and now your car are vulnerable in the same way

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<v Speaker 5>that your computers are because essentially everything is computed at right.

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<v Speaker 5>It's got computer chips, and it's got software embedded in

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<v Speaker 5>it that gives it the wile factor and cool functionality

842
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:18.519
<v Speaker 5>that people like, including your car. And you may recall, Brian,

843
00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:22.039
<v Speaker 5>way back we talked about a Wired article where a

844
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:24.360
<v Speaker 5>reporter worked with two hackers and they were able to

845
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:29.599
<v Speaker 5>remotely control this jeep Jeep Grand Cherokee while the reporter

846
00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:31.519
<v Speaker 5>was driving. They did all kinds of things to it

847
00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:34.239
<v Speaker 5>caused a giant recall back in the day. And this

848
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:38.159
<v Speaker 5>is another illustration of this where in this case this

849
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:41.159
<v Speaker 5>is a third party pioneer head unit right, pioneered the

850
00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:41.519
<v Speaker 5>people that.

851
00:50:41.559 --> 00:50:43.639
<v Speaker 4>Make car stereo and stereo equipment.

852
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:48.039
<v Speaker 5>But they hackers, you know they're thankfully, Brian, there are

853
00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:52.639
<v Speaker 5>good people out there, white hat hackers, trying to find

854
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:56.880
<v Speaker 5>vulnerabilities in these products, inform the manufacturers, get them fixed,

855
00:50:57.199 --> 00:51:00.199
<v Speaker 5>and frankly, inform the public at large about why so

856
00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:03.320
<v Speaker 5>many of these things are privacy and security dumpster buyers.

857
00:51:03.039 --> 00:51:06.079
<v Speaker 2>Basically doing the job that the manufacturer should have done

858
00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:08.599
<v Speaker 2>ahead of time to avoid this stuff from happening in

859
00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:11.400
<v Speaker 2>the first place. As you always point out, they don't

860
00:51:11.519 --> 00:51:14.639
<v Speaker 2>think about privacy and security when they're building these devices.

861
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:16.599
<v Speaker 2>They just rush to get the device out because it

862
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:20.360
<v Speaker 2>does something really cool, but failed to incorporate the requisite

863
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:22.320
<v Speaker 2>security measures in there.

864
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:24.360
<v Speaker 7>Excellent summary.

865
00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:27.199
<v Speaker 5>Well, I was going to say almost the exact same thing,

866
00:51:27.239 --> 00:51:30.119
<v Speaker 5>which is again, their whole privacy model or their whole

867
00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:33.559
<v Speaker 5>business model on most of this IoT stuff is backwards.

868
00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:36.719
<v Speaker 5>It's market share, speed to market ease, of use for

869
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:41.199
<v Speaker 5>the consumer, not privacy and security. And you know, at

870
00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:43.039
<v Speaker 5>one time it would be bad if there was a

871
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:44.079
<v Speaker 5>buzz in software and.

872
00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:45.000
<v Speaker 4>You could do your job.

873
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:48.440
<v Speaker 5>But now everything is that are connected. You have systems

874
00:51:48.440 --> 00:51:51.840
<v Speaker 5>that interface with and if it's a manufacturer system control

875
00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:56.400
<v Speaker 5>your car, which means your vehicle could potentially get hacked

876
00:51:56.400 --> 00:51:58.000
<v Speaker 5>and be turned into a weapon.

877
00:51:57.679 --> 00:51:58.199
<v Speaker 7>Of some sort.

878
00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:00.159
<v Speaker 5>You and I have talked about that many times the

879
00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:02.559
<v Speaker 5>pass and you know, I'm not the only person saying this.

880
00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:05.599
<v Speaker 5>There are lots of people in the industry and security

881
00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:07.400
<v Speaker 5>experts that are warning about this kind of thing. But

882
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:09.760
<v Speaker 5>in this case, the hackers went to a conference and

883
00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:13.119
<v Speaker 5>demonstrated that they could chain together various flaws and the

884
00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:17.679
<v Speaker 5>software inside this thing, and once they had access to it. Now, admittedly,

885
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:20.039
<v Speaker 5>you either have to get hotspot access to it or

886
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:22.320
<v Speaker 5>you have to have physical access to it, so it's

887
00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:24.639
<v Speaker 5>not as easy as just and over the air exploit

888
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:27.719
<v Speaker 5>to this head unit. But you know, if you're tak

889
00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:29.719
<v Speaker 5>it in for repairs, could it get hacked. Could someone

890
00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:33.440
<v Speaker 5>get in your car, you know, perhaps a spurned spouse

891
00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:35.960
<v Speaker 5>or lover. I mean, they lay all these things down

892
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:37.960
<v Speaker 5>in the article, but the bottom line is once it's

893
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:41.559
<v Speaker 5>been hacked. Yes, they can basically see who you're calling,

894
00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:44.320
<v Speaker 5>they can watch you where you're driving, and do a

895
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:47.199
<v Speaker 5>variety of other things. Not nearly as bad as some

896
00:52:47.239 --> 00:52:49.920
<v Speaker 5>of the manufacturer based systems that have been hacked, because

897
00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:52.440
<v Speaker 5>you know, they interface directly with the systems of the car,

898
00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:57.440
<v Speaker 5>the brakes, the engine, that sort of thing. So yeah,

899
00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:00.559
<v Speaker 5>you know, before you go out and you change the

900
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:03.920
<v Speaker 5>electronics in your car nowadays, you know, I'm sure Brian,

901
00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:05.639
<v Speaker 5>like me, your old enough ter day it's like, well,

902
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:07.519
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to upgrade the stereo of my car because

903
00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:09.480
<v Speaker 5>the thing that came from the manufacturer is no good,

904
00:53:09.800 --> 00:53:13.599
<v Speaker 5>right Delco.

905
00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:14.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah or something right, Yeah.

906
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:15.760
<v Speaker 5>And you didn't have to worry about these kind of

907
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:18.920
<v Speaker 5>things then, right, because you know it was just you know, or.

908
00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:21.559
<v Speaker 1>Maybe just hold on one second. Explains something to me.

909
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:26.000
<v Speaker 2>First off, that people still replace they had units in

910
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:28.360
<v Speaker 2>their car. So that's that's the thing. I guess. That

911
00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:30.719
<v Speaker 2>means you bought an older car that doesn't have one

912
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:33.239
<v Speaker 2>of those you know, built in wired up to the

913
00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:36.760
<v Speaker 2>entire system sort of units. You buy a substitute unit

914
00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:40.000
<v Speaker 2>from Pioneer. It's got a camera in it that records

915
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:41.639
<v Speaker 2>the inside of the automobile.

916
00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:45.880
<v Speaker 5>Uh, some of them do because they want to give

917
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:48.199
<v Speaker 5>you a video capability, just like the stuff that's built

918
00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:48.760
<v Speaker 5>into the car.

919
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Why in the hell would I want video of me

920
00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:52.559
<v Speaker 1>driving the car?

921
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:56.639
<v Speaker 5>Well, I didn't mean think about it, Brian, I don't know. Again, I'm,

922
00:53:57.239 --> 00:53:58.880
<v Speaker 5>as you know, against almost all of this.

923
00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:01.719
<v Speaker 2>No, I know, but I'm just it is a fundamental proposition.

924
00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Why I mean, exterior of the car to record accidents

925
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:07.559
<v Speaker 2>or you know, what's going on around you at least

926
00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:09.559
<v Speaker 2>have some comprehension of why you might want that. But

927
00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:13.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, picking my nose or eating a sandwich or

928
00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:14.760
<v Speaker 2>doing whatever I'm doing in my car. I don't need

929
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:16.840
<v Speaker 2>a video record of anything going on to the inside

930
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:17.280
<v Speaker 2>of the car.

931
00:54:18.519 --> 00:54:20.119
<v Speaker 1>I agree with the wholehearted thing.

932
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:24.000
<v Speaker 5>Okay, people Still, people still replace the head units in cars.

933
00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:26.599
<v Speaker 5>You know, you can buy these and really advanced ones

934
00:54:26.599 --> 00:54:30.000
<v Speaker 5>that sound better. It's getting harder though, because you know, again,

935
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:33.719
<v Speaker 5>most of these so called infotainment systems in modern cars

936
00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:37.039
<v Speaker 5>are deeply integrating the overall folks now of the car.

937
00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:39.599
<v Speaker 5>It's not just a radio anymore, right, oh, all kinds

938
00:54:39.639 --> 00:54:43.320
<v Speaker 5>of things. So, but they make like replacement kits because

939
00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:45.440
<v Speaker 5>to your point. You know, the thing is a weird shape.

940
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:47.280
<v Speaker 5>They do it by design. It takes up all this

941
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:49.760
<v Speaker 5>weird space. You got to have a special kit. But

942
00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:52.639
<v Speaker 5>apparently there are still companies out there making their you know,

943
00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:57.239
<v Speaker 5>aftermarket stereo systems for your car, and like most of

944
00:54:57.280 --> 00:54:58.639
<v Speaker 5>this IoT stuff, they have.

945
00:54:58.599 --> 00:54:59.719
<v Speaker 4>A lot of the same problems.

946
00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:03.079
<v Speaker 5>So while you know, I would be careful about upgrading

947
00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:06.320
<v Speaker 5>your cars systems simply because of the impact on the car,

948
00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:08.280
<v Speaker 5>you have to think about this kind of stuff. And

949
00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:13.480
<v Speaker 5>the bigger point is Internet of things in general, moldering, dumpster.

950
00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:17.639
<v Speaker 2>Fire period every week, the reminder and you can't say

951
00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:20.039
<v Speaker 2>it enough day maybe people will start listening to you

952
00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:23.320
<v Speaker 2>don't hook your coffee maker up to the internet. Five

953
00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:25.639
<v Speaker 2>six point thirty seven will continue with Dave. Apparently they're

954
00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:28.639
<v Speaker 2>sending drones to nine to one one calls in New York.

955
00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:32.000
<v Speaker 2>You dreaming of a smile is brilliant and forty outcrecy

956
00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:34.760
<v Speaker 2>De talk station check right with Dave Hatter. All right,

957
00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:36.480
<v Speaker 2>so Eric said, you might want to be able to

958
00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:39.800
<v Speaker 2>have that camera in your car to track your kids driving,

959
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:42.159
<v Speaker 2>which I guess I kind of get, but he said

960
00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:45.760
<v Speaker 2>recording passengers. He said, for like Uber lift people. They

961
00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:49.679
<v Speaker 2>may want that, but you know, I guess you can

962
00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:51.760
<v Speaker 2>just go ahead and get one of those independent, non

963
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Internet connected cameras and just put it on your your

964
00:55:55.199 --> 00:55:57.920
<v Speaker 2>your windshield and record the passengers in the car.

965
00:55:58.039 --> 00:55:58.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

966
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:00.320
<v Speaker 2>That's not something that I have any concern or care

967
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:03.920
<v Speaker 2>about and think it's either it's creepy and stupid, but

968
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Internet of Things is the broader point on that one.

969
00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Moving on New York Police Department using drones.

970
00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:14.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this is an interesting story, and I think this

971
00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:17.800
<v Speaker 5>is unavoidable Brian, and probably happening in other places.

972
00:56:18.079 --> 00:56:20.159
<v Speaker 4>And this particular writer.

973
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:23.199
<v Speaker 5>Seems to not be a fan of the NYPD based

974
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:27.119
<v Speaker 5>on the tone of this article. But again, you know,

975
00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:30.920
<v Speaker 5>drones get cheaper and cheaper and cheaper and more and

976
00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:34.880
<v Speaker 5>more capable, whether it's you know, the flight time, it's altitude,

977
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:38.440
<v Speaker 5>it's the cameras, microphones, et cetera in the drone.

978
00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:41.159
<v Speaker 4>So I'm not saying I don't I don't like it.

979
00:56:41.320 --> 00:56:43.760
<v Speaker 5>Don't misunderstand what I'm saying I think, but I think

980
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:47.480
<v Speaker 5>it's inevitable that we're headed in this direction because you know,

981
00:56:48.159 --> 00:56:51.119
<v Speaker 5>they mentioned here these particular drones that the NYPD are

982
00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:54.199
<v Speaker 5>using can go forty five miles an hour. Obviously, they

983
00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:56.119
<v Speaker 5>can fly in a straight line. So if you have

984
00:56:56.239 --> 00:56:59.199
<v Speaker 5>some sort of unfolding event, even something like a bankrupt

985
00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:01.199
<v Speaker 5>it doesn't have to be a arrist vent or something, right,

986
00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:04.480
<v Speaker 5>you can get eyes on the scene quickly understand what

987
00:57:04.519 --> 00:57:07.480
<v Speaker 5>you're up against. But the point they make, which I

988
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:10.559
<v Speaker 5>fully agree with, is as these drones get smaller and

989
00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:13.239
<v Speaker 5>more capable, you know, they can hover high enough that

990
00:57:13.320 --> 00:57:16.119
<v Speaker 5>you can't hear or see them. Yet when they're telephoto lens,

991
00:57:16.159 --> 00:57:18.239
<v Speaker 5>they can zoom in on you see what's in your hands.

992
00:57:18.639 --> 00:57:21.960
<v Speaker 5>This article claims that these particular devices the NYPP are

993
00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:25.840
<v Speaker 5>using can recognize people and license plates from a mile away.

994
00:57:26.599 --> 00:57:29.840
<v Speaker 5>And the concern, yeah, the concern they're raising is that, okay,

995
00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:33.559
<v Speaker 5>you send out the drone to wherever you know alleged

996
00:57:33.639 --> 00:57:35.880
<v Speaker 5>crime is taking place, Well, it has the potence with

997
00:57:35.960 --> 00:57:38.480
<v Speaker 5>to suck up everything in its path along the way. Right,

998
00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:40.880
<v Speaker 5>So you know you're just out for a stroll, and

999
00:57:40.920 --> 00:57:44.079
<v Speaker 5>you know now you're you're on the drone footage. I

1000
00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:46.719
<v Speaker 5>know that you know you have no expectation of privacy

1001
00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:50.159
<v Speaker 5>out in public, indeed, but you know I have some

1002
00:57:50.199 --> 00:57:53.320
<v Speaker 5>concerns about this again, I think it's inevitable, but I

1003
00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:55.639
<v Speaker 5>think it's important for people to understand and there ought

1004
00:57:55.679 --> 00:57:58.519
<v Speaker 5>to be a public conversation about this kind of technology

1005
00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:02.679
<v Speaker 5>and do we want this sort of super invasive technology.

1006
00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:05.679
<v Speaker 5>You know, you're in your backyard. The drone is up there,

1007
00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:10.079
<v Speaker 5>it's you know, hovering around, it's filming you, you know,

1008
00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:13.760
<v Speaker 5>with parabolic microphones. I don't know how far away you

1009
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:16.039
<v Speaker 5>could probably listen to you. I'm sure it pretty far,

1010
00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:20.920
<v Speaker 5>I know, that's the thing. So yeah, it's interesting to

1011
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:23.159
<v Speaker 5>see where all this is going. And again, I just

1012
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:25.320
<v Speaker 5>don't see a way around it, because it's only going

1013
00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:27.480
<v Speaker 5>to get less and less expensive to put this sort

1014
00:58:27.480 --> 00:58:29.000
<v Speaker 5>of technology out there, Sue.

1015
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:32.480
<v Speaker 2>That's why I'm a fan of sporting clays and skeet

1016
00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:36.239
<v Speaker 2>and trap shooting. Dave, Yeah, me too, you know how

1017
00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:36.679
<v Speaker 2>to lead?

1018
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:38.760
<v Speaker 12>You know.

1019
00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:40.760
<v Speaker 2>The other thing that I think about is that there

1020
00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:42.840
<v Speaker 2>are so many satellites up there, and they have to

1021
00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:45.519
<v Speaker 2>be positioned properly so they don't run into each other

1022
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:47.760
<v Speaker 2>in outer space. And I don't know how they manage

1023
00:58:47.800 --> 00:58:51.760
<v Speaker 2>that with the thousands and thousands of satellites. But I'm

1024
00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:54.199
<v Speaker 2>thinking of, you know, someday in the very near future,

1025
00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:56.280
<v Speaker 2>all these drones are flying around, and then we have

1026
00:58:56.400 --> 00:58:59.599
<v Speaker 2>these individual car sized drones and fly people around and

1027
00:58:59.719 --> 00:59:02.400
<v Speaker 2>drone taxis. You know at some point we're gonna have

1028
00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:05.320
<v Speaker 2>a lot of mid air accidents and collisions.

1029
00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:10.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, you have to be super confident in

1030
00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:13.320
<v Speaker 5>the technology for these things to avoid each other. And

1031
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:16.480
<v Speaker 5>you know, obviously we don't have enormous amount of these

1032
00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:19.719
<v Speaker 5>things now, but I think over time you're just going

1033
00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:22.119
<v Speaker 5>to see more and more of it. And to your point, Briant,

1034
00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:25.360
<v Speaker 5>larger one air taxis that sort of thing, And as

1035
00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:27.519
<v Speaker 5>far fettered as that may sound, I think it's company.

1036
00:59:27.679 --> 00:59:30.880
<v Speaker 5>There are already companies claiming to be able to do this. Now.

1037
00:59:31.320 --> 00:59:33.360
<v Speaker 5>I'd be the first to say, not a chance I'll

1038
00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:36.639
<v Speaker 5>ride in any of these things anytime soon, because I

1039
00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:39.000
<v Speaker 5>don't trust the software in cars rolling on the ground,

1040
00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:44.960
<v Speaker 5>much less something's flying me around. But you know, I

1041
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:47.400
<v Speaker 5>believe certainly within our lifetime you're going to see a

1042
00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:49.159
<v Speaker 5>lot more of these things. And you know, there are

1043
00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:52.199
<v Speaker 5>instances where these things fail, fall out of the sky,

1044
00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:56.599
<v Speaker 5>hit something, hit somebody. Again, I'm not too too worried

1045
00:59:56.639 --> 00:59:59.159
<v Speaker 5>about that, but when you think about this from a

1046
00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:03.119
<v Speaker 5>survey perspective. And you know you mentioned the satellite right.

1047
01:00:03.159 --> 01:00:04.840
<v Speaker 5>We know there have been satellites in the sky that

1048
01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:06.880
<v Speaker 5>can you know, read something in your hand and that

1049
01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:09.400
<v Speaker 5>sort of thing for a long time. But to your point,

1050
01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:12.519
<v Speaker 5>they have to be positioned. They only fly over every

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<v Speaker 5>so often, or they're stuck in one place. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>this gives you, This gives a government entity the capability

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<v Speaker 5>for a relatively small amount of money to surveil you

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<v Speaker 5>or anything they want, pretty much any time they want,

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<v Speaker 5>for as long.

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<v Speaker 4>As they want.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know this is going to be abused, Brian,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, think about it. We've seen we've seen examples

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<v Speaker 5>of companies like ADP where their technicians go in and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, set up cameras to film attractive women in

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<v Speaker 5>their house. I mean, it's well documented. People have gone

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<v Speaker 5>to jail over there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look, you know that we know the NSA is

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<v Speaker 2>soaking up and basically soaking up every piece of data, email,

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01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:51.719
<v Speaker 2>text message that anybody in the United States or anywhere

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01:00:51.719 --> 01:00:53.840
<v Speaker 2>else in the world sends. So if our own government's

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<v Speaker 2>doing it, you know nefarious actors are going to take

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<v Speaker 2>hold of this technology and too for nefarious purposes. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's so obvious. Oh well, we live in a

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<v Speaker 2>frightening or wellian world.

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<v Speaker 9>Day.

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<v Speaker 1>You prove it every single week.

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<v Speaker 5>But again, and I mean, I think all at this point,

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<v Speaker 5>all you can really do is be aware, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>act accordingly, and then you know, try to raise awareness

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<v Speaker 5>with other people and talk to your legislators and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>see what you can do to try to keep as

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<v Speaker 5>much of this teenie in the bottle as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I agree with you wholeheartedly. We'll continue coming up next.

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<v Speaker 2>Latest car technology is starting to drive people nuts. One

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<v Speaker 2>for your business computer needs and I'm sure you probably

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<v Speaker 2>have them. Thanks for sponsoring the segment day. I've always

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed talking with you about it. Let's find out what's

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<v Speaker 2>driving people nuts with the latest car technology.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, back to cars.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's interesting because then the article is talking about this,

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01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:04.719
<v Speaker 5>they have another article about how your modern car is

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01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:06.400
<v Speaker 5>spying on you and you don't know it kind of

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<v Speaker 5>back to our first segment, and I encourage people go

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<v Speaker 5>out and check out privacy.

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<v Speaker 4>Not included in particular the exposity.

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<v Speaker 5>On modern cars. But this is all about and I

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<v Speaker 5>get this because I have a newer car.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like at twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 5>And my wife has a newer car.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like at.

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<v Speaker 5>Twenty nineteen, and you know, almost everything in it is

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<v Speaker 5>no longer mechanical, right, everything is electronic.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got to go to the entertainment screen, or you've got.

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<v Speaker 5>Some kind of weird control that's not very precise, versus

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<v Speaker 5>just I want to I just want to press the

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<v Speaker 5>button and go to a certain channel, or I want

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<v Speaker 5>to turn on the air conditioning or turn off the

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<v Speaker 5>air conditioning without having to go through fifteen screens to

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<v Speaker 5>figure out how to do it right. And that's one

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<v Speaker 5>of the things. One of the things they point out.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not only irritating for people, because a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>you and I agree with this, are increasingly it's not

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<v Speaker 5>only less intuitive. Yes, it's dangerous because you have to

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01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:00.719
<v Speaker 5>take your eyes off the road button, then you got

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01:03:00.719 --> 01:03:01.760
<v Speaker 5>to go to another button.

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<v Speaker 2>Dave, think about this. It's illegal to use your cell

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01:03:04.880 --> 01:03:05.880
<v Speaker 2>phone in the state of.

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01:03:05.800 --> 01:03:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Ohio while you're driving.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet, yeah, they got that giant screen which you

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<v Speaker 2>have to use and operate to navigate through, to to

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01:03:14.719 --> 01:03:17.159
<v Speaker 2>deal with really literally anything you want to do in

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01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:19.000
<v Speaker 2>the car. How now you drive down the road and

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<v Speaker 2>just your air condition You're like, oh, what screen do

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01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:23.039
<v Speaker 2>I need? And you're staring down at that your your

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01:03:23.159 --> 01:03:25.199
<v Speaker 2>your your your, your eyes aren't on the road.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So that's a pro recent study drivers feelings on

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<v Speaker 5>the intuitiveness of car controls cell from seventy nine percent

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<v Speaker 5>and twenty fifteen when you've had a lot less of

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01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:40.880
<v Speaker 5>the text and entertainment and digital buttons and so forth,

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01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:42.760
<v Speaker 5>to fifty six percent and twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, I'm surprised it's that high.

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<v Speaker 5>Because you know, I can't tell him because I've runted

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<v Speaker 5>a car that I'm not familiar with, and then I

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01:03:49.559 --> 01:03:52.760
<v Speaker 5>have no idea what I'm doing, right, and unlike the

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01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:54.960
<v Speaker 5>old school. Again, here's a button, it turns on the

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<v Speaker 5>air conditioning. Here's a button that turns on the deep roster.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, some cars still have some combination of that,

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01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:03.320
<v Speaker 5>but a lot of it is increasingly digital. And I

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01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:06.000
<v Speaker 5>get it, but Also, I think the part of the

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01:04:06.119 --> 01:04:07.960
<v Speaker 5>people overlook.

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<v Speaker 4>When they think about these things.

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<v Speaker 5>All of this tech is very expensive when it goes bad,

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01:04:12.599 --> 01:04:15.320
<v Speaker 5>versus I just need to replace a switch that opens

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01:04:15.320 --> 01:04:17.559
<v Speaker 5>and closes a circuit to turn on the air conditioning

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01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:19.760
<v Speaker 5>or whatever. You know, if I got to replace the

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<v Speaker 5>whole entertainment system.

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<v Speaker 4>Very expensive.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, I think one of the greatest innovations

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<v Speaker 5>in cars in the last several decades are backup cameras, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>backup cameras super helpful, reduces a lot of danger. But

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01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:36.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, when those things go bad, and now cars

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01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:39.599
<v Speaker 5>have sensors all around them, those things can be extremely

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01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:42.079
<v Speaker 5>expensive to replace when they go bad, So you're not

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<v Speaker 5>only adding to the cost of the car, you're adding

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<v Speaker 5>to the maintenance of the car. And again, I understand

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<v Speaker 5>the benefit of some of these things, but I agree

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<v Speaker 5>wholeheartedly with this article that most modern cars are a

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<v Speaker 5>lot less intuitive in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Way you operate them.

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<v Speaker 5>And I agree with your point, Brian, that it's dangerous

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<v Speaker 5>to have to constant kee taking your eyes off the

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<v Speaker 5>road to go three screens in to figure out how

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<v Speaker 5>to change something you want to change about the environment

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<v Speaker 5>or the behavior of the car. I find it very

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<v Speaker 5>frustrating person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm with you all day long, and I hate

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<v Speaker 2>to even admit this out loud, but since we gave

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<v Speaker 2>our son the old Honda, we had to replace. We

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01:05:18.559 --> 01:05:21.719
<v Speaker 2>needed a larger vehicle because we have dogs, we have

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01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:23.800
<v Speaker 2>a yard, and you have to deal. So anyway, we

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<v Speaker 2>got a modern used vehicle and it's got one of

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<v Speaker 2>those systems in it. And when they were trying to

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<v Speaker 2>upsell us on the extended warranty and it was really

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<v Speaker 2>expensive for the extended warranty, the guy said, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>something goes wrong with that. You know that screen, that

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<v Speaker 2>infotainment system that's connected literally everything. It's more expensive to

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<v Speaker 2>fix that than it is then replacing the engine in

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<v Speaker 2>the car.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, which is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>That was his you know, his upsell. You know it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>well it's still under warranty and how often does this happen? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>but basically was They don't have any problems with it,

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01:05:56.400 --> 01:06:00.239
<v Speaker 2>so anyway, it's just it's scary stuff. I mean, I

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01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:02.559
<v Speaker 2>hate having one of those cars that's literally recording everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, to your point about the car spying

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01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:09.639
<v Speaker 2>on you, that information can be purchased by insurance companies.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes it can.

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<v Speaker 5>In fact, you know that was another recent scandal. You

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<v Speaker 5>may recall we talked about it briefly. GM had to

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01:06:21.239 --> 01:06:24.039
<v Speaker 5>come off. They were essentially selling the data collected from

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01:06:24.039 --> 01:06:27.559
<v Speaker 5>people's cars to insurance companies, and people were getting premium

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01:06:27.559 --> 01:06:32.639
<v Speaker 5>increases and canceled without voluntarily signing up. It's one thing,

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<v Speaker 5>like the progressive thing, right, you get it, you pluge

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01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:37.519
<v Speaker 5>it into your car. You're volunteering to do that because

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<v Speaker 5>you know your potents are going to get better raids.

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<v Speaker 5>It's another thing, and they talk about that and that

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<v Speaker 5>privacy not included thing. I keep referencing about how these

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<v Speaker 5>cars are collecting all this data and potentially selling it

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<v Speaker 5>to third parties, including your insurance company, who might decide

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<v Speaker 5>you're not a good insurable risk based on the driving

1202
01:06:53.679 --> 01:06:56.719
<v Speaker 5>heb it's coming from your car. So things to think

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<v Speaker 5>about as we head into this increasingly dystopian world where

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<v Speaker 5>everything has sensors in it, and everything wants to track

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<v Speaker 5>you if you'll let it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just so scary. Anyway, important information, know and

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<v Speaker 2>think about. Dave Hatter, I always appreciate you bringing it

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<v Speaker 2>to our attention every week here in a fifty five

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<v Speaker 2>Caresity Morning Show. Look forward to next Friday in another

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<v Speaker 2>edition of Tech Friday with Dave Hatter again brought to

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<v Speaker 2>you by intrust dot com. Get in touch with Dave

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<v Speaker 2>and the team at interust it dot com. Take care Dave,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you again. Have a wonderful weekend, and I won't

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<v Speaker 2>be around next week. I'm taking all week next off,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think if you're doing the segment, you'll be

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<v Speaker 2>doing it with Kevin Gordon next Friday.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, well, Brian, you enjoy your time off and

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<v Speaker 5>I'll look forward to chat with you when you're back.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks brother, Take care Man six fifty seven and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>five care City Talk Station. We're in here from Troy Day.

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<v Speaker 2>The program is Trust and Valor and it's a program

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<v Speaker 2>for veterans and first responders. Should be really interesting. Plus

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<v Speaker 2>the Daniel Davis Deep Dive Special Friday edition since we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get him on Tuesday. That'll take place at seven thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be right back seven oh six, a fifty five

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<v Speaker 2>KRCD talk station. If everyone's having a happy Friday, I

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<v Speaker 2>think this will put a smile on your face. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're not having a happy Friday, Welcome to the fifty

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<v Speaker 2>five KRC Morning Show from an organization called Mustang Journey.

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<v Speaker 2>Troy Day, Troy, Welcome to the show. It's great to

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<v Speaker 2>have you on today.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate what you're doing because I am a huge

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<v Speaker 2>supporter of, of course, the American veteran and first responders. My

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<v Speaker 2>sister was a twenty five year police officer of the

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati Police Department, and I'll tell you, I do get

1237
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<v Speaker 2>the idea of stress from a job, and I learned

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<v Speaker 2>from her over the years what they face under pressure

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<v Speaker 2>and the crap that they go through each and every day.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course the American veteran, most notably combat veterans,

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<v Speaker 2>deal with post traumatic stress and the day to day

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<v Speaker 2>hardships are just being in the military obviously a very

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<v Speaker 2>stressful reality. You obviously recognize that we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about your Trust and Valor program, but first let my

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<v Speaker 2>listeners know about Mustang Journey, the organization, how you got started,

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01:09:10.359 --> 01:09:12.960
<v Speaker 2>what you do. It's online at Mustang Journey dot org.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, no, I appreciate that, and thank you to your

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<v Speaker 11>family members for their service. Mustang Journey is a is

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<v Speaker 11>a five O one C three nonprofit organization. We operate

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<v Speaker 11>solely on donations and volunteers. And what we do is

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<v Speaker 11>we adopt, tame, gentle and rehome wild mustangs. And you know,

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<v Speaker 11>in this as you even mentioned what a great way

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<v Speaker 11>to help and support two iconic American symbols of freedom,

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<v Speaker 11>the wild mustang and the American soldier.

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<v Speaker 2>So I understand you work with the Bureau of Land Management.

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<v Speaker 2>Now these are as you mentioned, wild mustangs, and so

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're they're they're rounded up and collected. Is there

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<v Speaker 2>are they? Do they represent a problem out in the wild?

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01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Is that the reason that they're collected and rounded up

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<v Speaker 2>by the Bureau of Land Management.

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01:10:09.359 --> 01:10:13.600
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, what has happened is the free ranging ranchers has

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01:10:13.640 --> 01:10:16.800
<v Speaker 11>gone to the government and asked them to remove the mustangs.

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01:10:16.800 --> 01:10:20.560
<v Speaker 11>They actually the ranchers actually round them up with helicopters.

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01:10:21.079 --> 01:10:23.399
<v Speaker 11>They claim that the wild mustangs are taking all the

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01:10:23.439 --> 01:10:25.199
<v Speaker 11>resources in the foliage and water.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, huh, well, I suppose you've probably questioned that reality

1268
01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:34.199
<v Speaker 2>or that that assertion. But nonetheless, because of those claims,

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01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:37.039
<v Speaker 2>they are rounded up, and I imagine that's got to

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01:10:37.039 --> 01:10:39.239
<v Speaker 2>be quite stressful for the wild mustangs.

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01:10:39.279 --> 01:10:40.159
<v Speaker 1>Just in and of itself.

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, it is very stressful, and that's you know, we've noticed,

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01:10:46.199 --> 01:10:49.800
<v Speaker 11>you know, a parallel you know, examining the parallels between

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01:10:49.920 --> 01:10:53.279
<v Speaker 11>the life of a wild mustang from the round ups

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01:10:53.840 --> 01:10:57.119
<v Speaker 11>separated from their families and then also to the to

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01:10:57.119 --> 01:10:59.279
<v Speaker 11>the first responders and also.

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01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:03.920
<v Speaker 7>A ve and you know there's uh, there's that.

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01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:08.800
<v Speaker 11>The time to decompress that they need, the stress from

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01:11:08.880 --> 01:11:11.960
<v Speaker 11>around up, the stress from as you mentioned, even the combat,

1280
01:11:12.119 --> 01:11:19.239
<v Speaker 11>the traumatic experiences possibly even loss, uh you know in combat. Yeah,

1281
01:11:19.800 --> 01:11:22.399
<v Speaker 11>so the highlights, you know, shared a characteristic extent or

1282
01:11:22.720 --> 01:11:26.399
<v Speaker 11>you know, I guess you could say themes of camaraderie,

1283
01:11:26.840 --> 01:11:30.640
<v Speaker 11>you know, forging that trust between the veterans, the first

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01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:34.000
<v Speaker 11>responders and that wild mustang trust is going to be

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01:11:34.039 --> 01:11:34.319
<v Speaker 11>one of the.

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01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Biggest ones understood.

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<v Speaker 2>So you mentioned gentling the mustang and and and getting

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01:11:40.359 --> 01:11:44.600
<v Speaker 2>into uh an animal that's that's rideable, So you're you're

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01:11:44.600 --> 01:11:46.840
<v Speaker 2>you're looking to it. I guess the old word for

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01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:48.920
<v Speaker 2>it is breaking a horse. I mean, I think about

1291
01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:51.279
<v Speaker 2>the old Western days and I'm an break a horse.

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01:11:51.319 --> 01:11:53.119
<v Speaker 2>You got a wild horse, and you learn how to

1293
01:11:53.439 --> 01:11:55.840
<v Speaker 2>calm it down, put a saddle on it, and make

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01:11:55.880 --> 01:11:58.199
<v Speaker 2>it into something that's actually rideable.

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01:11:59.239 --> 01:12:03.119
<v Speaker 11>Right exactly. And that's where we use the term gentle.

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01:12:03.359 --> 01:12:06.199
<v Speaker 11>There is no heartbreaking of these horses. They've already been

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01:12:06.199 --> 01:12:10.560
<v Speaker 11>through enough stress trauma, so we use these we use

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01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:14.279
<v Speaker 11>the type of training where you gentle them and it's

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01:12:14.399 --> 01:12:16.720
<v Speaker 11>it's there's no there's no heartbreaking of the.

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01:12:16.680 --> 01:12:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Horses, understood, and I appreciate your having a concern for

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01:12:20.920 --> 01:12:23.560
<v Speaker 2>the horse and inappropriate treatment. That's what it's all about.

1302
01:12:24.199 --> 01:12:27.279
<v Speaker 2>And so and that's where the veterans and first responders

1303
01:12:27.319 --> 01:12:30.119
<v Speaker 2>come in. You train them how to gentle the horses,

1304
01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:33.960
<v Speaker 2>and then you ultimately place them. It's it's like a

1305
01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:36.359
<v Speaker 2>forever home for the for the Mustang after you go

1306
01:12:36.399 --> 01:12:37.239
<v Speaker 2>through this process.

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01:12:38.600 --> 01:12:38.840
<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:43.119
<v Speaker 11>So we actually we have different programs for the veterans

1309
01:12:43.119 --> 01:12:45.920
<v Speaker 11>and first responders. Have to say, one of those individuals

1310
01:12:45.960 --> 01:12:47.840
<v Speaker 11>they just want to learn to how to take care

1311
01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:50.159
<v Speaker 11>of a horse. That's we have something what we call

1312
01:12:50.199 --> 01:12:52.199
<v Speaker 11>a care team. That's where you just we teach them

1313
01:12:52.239 --> 01:12:54.039
<v Speaker 11>how to feed, water and muck and just spend some

1314
01:12:54.199 --> 01:12:56.840
<v Speaker 11>time with the horse. And that's really when some of

1315
01:12:56.840 --> 01:13:00.560
<v Speaker 11>the trust is built, just just take taking care of them.

1316
01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:06.239
<v Speaker 11>We also have a handling program where you can learn

1317
01:13:06.239 --> 01:13:09.560
<v Speaker 11>to halt or lead load a horse if you want

1318
01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:12.039
<v Speaker 11>to just kind of take it knowledge and experience a

1319
01:13:12.079 --> 01:13:15.840
<v Speaker 11>little step further. You mentioned the trust and valor that's

1320
01:13:15.960 --> 01:13:19.680
<v Speaker 11>learned how to tame tame a wild mustang from what

1321
01:13:19.760 --> 01:13:23.880
<v Speaker 11>we call untouchable to someone where you can halt or

1322
01:13:23.960 --> 01:13:27.960
<v Speaker 11>lead and load in a trailer. And then we are

1323
01:13:28.319 --> 01:13:31.079
<v Speaker 11>moving on to hopefully in a very near future, a

1324
01:13:31.159 --> 01:13:35.760
<v Speaker 11>riding program in these individuals, veterans and first responders help

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01:13:35.880 --> 01:13:37.920
<v Speaker 11>us get them to their forever homes.

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01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:42.399
<v Speaker 2>So the concept is this is this is very therapeutic

1327
01:13:42.720 --> 01:13:45.880
<v Speaker 2>for perhaps maybe a veteran who's struggling with post traumatic stress.

1328
01:13:46.119 --> 01:13:50.199
<v Speaker 2>You're giving them something that's really beneficial. It's distracting for

1329
01:13:50.319 --> 01:13:52.720
<v Speaker 2>them in the sense their mind isn't on other more

1330
01:13:52.760 --> 01:13:58.319
<v Speaker 2>traumatic things. They're helping this horse get, you know, you know, become.

1331
01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:00.760
<v Speaker 2>I guess is I hate to use the word usable,

1332
01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:03.880
<v Speaker 2>but you know it's it's a wild animal, but you're

1333
01:14:03.920 --> 01:14:06.239
<v Speaker 2>turning it into something that someone might want to adopt.

1334
01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:10.000
<v Speaker 2>And I guess all of this is really beneficial to

1335
01:14:10.279 --> 01:14:14.079
<v Speaker 2>the psychology of the veteran or first responder in that regard.

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01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:17.960
<v Speaker 11>Yes, sir, you know there's a lot of there's a

1337
01:14:17.960 --> 01:14:20.800
<v Speaker 11>lot of life skills that you can learn just by

1338
01:14:20.840 --> 01:14:23.600
<v Speaker 11>just by spending time and and and here's the thing,

1339
01:14:23.880 --> 01:14:26.560
<v Speaker 11>it's it's not us, it's it's a it's the horses.

1340
01:14:26.600 --> 01:14:29.159
<v Speaker 11>I I kind of, you know, just kind of missed

1341
01:14:29.199 --> 01:14:32.760
<v Speaker 11>myself as a as one beggar showing another beggar where

1342
01:14:32.800 --> 01:14:36.479
<v Speaker 11>to get the information from. And you know, those life skills,

1343
01:14:36.680 --> 01:14:41.720
<v Speaker 11>you know, it's there's it's not a a canned answer.

1344
01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:44.520
<v Speaker 11>You don't know what that individual is going to receive

1345
01:14:44.600 --> 01:14:48.680
<v Speaker 11>from spending time with the Mustangs, but some of those,

1346
01:14:48.720 --> 01:14:51.800
<v Speaker 11>you know, transitioning life skills could be you know, confidence,

1347
01:14:52.439 --> 01:14:57.239
<v Speaker 11>confidence back into the civilian world, if you will. Patience

1348
01:14:57.600 --> 01:15:01.760
<v Speaker 11>is another one. Uh, Presence, being in the moment is

1349
01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:04.000
<v Speaker 11>a big one that one has. That one has been

1350
01:15:04.039 --> 01:15:07.520
<v Speaker 11>a big one for me spending time with the Mustangs.

1351
01:15:07.600 --> 01:15:09.920
<v Speaker 11>And then you kind of mentioned it there too. Is

1352
01:15:10.399 --> 01:15:13.920
<v Speaker 11>just a peace of mind, right, even if it's for

1353
01:15:14.199 --> 01:15:16.279
<v Speaker 11>just a little while. It's just a peace of mind

1354
01:15:16.359 --> 01:15:20.399
<v Speaker 11>so you can forget about your daily challenges just for

1355
01:15:20.439 --> 01:15:21.039
<v Speaker 11>a little while.

1356
01:15:21.159 --> 01:15:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean everybody has something along those lines. You know,

1357
01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:25.199
<v Speaker 2>people who can't go to sleep at night they think

1358
01:15:25.239 --> 01:15:27.000
<v Speaker 2>about all the crap they did during the day, all

1359
01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:28.720
<v Speaker 2>the things they need to do tomorrow, and it's the

1360
01:15:28.760 --> 01:15:32.319
<v Speaker 2>worst possible time to think about those things because you're

1361
01:15:32.319 --> 01:15:34.279
<v Speaker 2>supposed to get a good night's sleep so you can

1362
01:15:34.479 --> 01:15:37.319
<v Speaker 2>then cope and deal with it the next day. So

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01:15:37.680 --> 01:15:41.000
<v Speaker 2>in this regard, when you're working with the Mustang, you

1364
01:15:41.119 --> 01:15:44.319
<v Speaker 2>have a task at hand, you have to have presence,

1365
01:15:44.359 --> 01:15:46.119
<v Speaker 2>you have to pay attention to what's going on in

1366
01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:49.680
<v Speaker 2>front of you. You have this beautiful, beautiful horse Mustang

1367
01:15:49.720 --> 01:15:52.680
<v Speaker 2>in front of you that's obviously you know, enjoyable to

1368
01:15:52.800 --> 01:15:55.199
<v Speaker 2>be with. It's a distraction from the day to day

1369
01:15:55.199 --> 01:15:57.399
<v Speaker 2>cares of life. I can see the brilliance of this

1370
01:15:57.600 --> 01:15:59.239
<v Speaker 2>just in thinking about along those lines.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, sir, wow, Yeah, And.

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01:16:03.359 --> 01:16:05.840
<v Speaker 11>I think that's you know again, you know, you're not

1373
01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:07.560
<v Speaker 11>sure what the individual is going to get out of it,

1374
01:16:07.600 --> 01:16:11.920
<v Speaker 11>but that's you know, again, just being able to focus,

1375
01:16:12.760 --> 01:16:15.439
<v Speaker 11>you know, focus and then use those to to move on.

1376
01:16:16.039 --> 01:16:18.439
<v Speaker 11>You know, you hold on to that for a little

1377
01:16:18.439 --> 01:16:21.479
<v Speaker 11>while to get you through your next days until until

1378
01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:23.359
<v Speaker 11>you can come back and spend more time with them.

1379
01:16:23.920 --> 01:16:28.079
<v Speaker 2>So this uh is does the program, this trust Environur program,

1380
01:16:28.239 --> 01:16:31.399
<v Speaker 2>is it for a specific period of time? Is it?

1381
01:16:31.439 --> 01:16:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Is it sort of like a show up when you

1382
01:16:32.920 --> 01:16:34.520
<v Speaker 2>need a kind of thing. How does it work? How

1383
01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:35.239
<v Speaker 2>does it operate?

1384
01:16:36.920 --> 01:16:41.159
<v Speaker 11>We can, Yeah, anyone could reach out to us and

1385
01:16:41.199 --> 01:16:43.560
<v Speaker 11>we can fit it into their schedule. We do have

1386
01:16:43.640 --> 01:16:46.760
<v Speaker 11>some type of a schedule right now. However, we do

1387
01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:50.000
<v Speaker 11>have folks coming that you know can't make it, you know,

1388
01:16:50.039 --> 01:16:52.640
<v Speaker 11>for instance, on a Sunday. Maybe they can't make it

1389
01:16:52.640 --> 01:16:56.640
<v Speaker 11>on a Sunday, so we will open up other times

1390
01:16:56.640 --> 01:16:58.840
<v Speaker 11>for them to come in and spend time with them,

1391
01:16:59.279 --> 01:17:01.800
<v Speaker 11>all right, and and just go and then go through

1392
01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:05.680
<v Speaker 11>the programs or you know, even at their even at

1393
01:17:05.720 --> 01:17:08.359
<v Speaker 11>their level where they're at the FORRCES. We've had several

1394
01:17:08.399 --> 01:17:12.319
<v Speaker 11>folks come through that have had, you know, grew up

1395
01:17:12.319 --> 01:17:15.880
<v Speaker 11>with horses. They possibly even maybe trained horses before going

1396
01:17:15.880 --> 01:17:20.279
<v Speaker 11>in into the military, and or they have little, little

1397
01:17:20.319 --> 01:17:23.399
<v Speaker 11>to no knowledge at all about horses and we just

1398
01:17:23.479 --> 01:17:26.520
<v Speaker 11>start them with the horses where their knowledge is at.

1399
01:17:27.640 --> 01:17:31.439
<v Speaker 2>Now, how long does it take from when you get

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01:17:31.600 --> 01:17:37.439
<v Speaker 2>one of these wild mustangs from the h Bureau of

1401
01:17:37.520 --> 01:17:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Land Management? How long does it, I guess normally take

1402
01:17:40.760 --> 01:17:44.600
<v Speaker 2>I suppose different mustangs vary like personalities. There one can

1403
01:17:44.640 --> 01:17:48.119
<v Speaker 2>take a longer time to train, others may adopt and

1404
01:17:48.159 --> 01:17:51.640
<v Speaker 2>accept the training earlier, but generally speaking, start to finish

1405
01:17:51.640 --> 01:17:54.800
<v Speaker 2>from when you get the Mustang initially till it's properly

1406
01:17:55.000 --> 01:17:57.560
<v Speaker 2>gentled and manageable. What's the length of time?

1407
01:17:59.079 --> 01:17:59.399
<v Speaker 7>You know what?

1408
01:17:59.439 --> 01:18:02.800
<v Speaker 11>You made a great point. They're just like humans. We

1409
01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:05.079
<v Speaker 11>all have our we all have our personal bubble to

1410
01:18:05.159 --> 01:18:05.640
<v Speaker 11>begin with.

1411
01:18:06.359 --> 01:18:07.079
<v Speaker 7>That's when it starts.

1412
01:18:07.119 --> 01:18:10.359
<v Speaker 11>We can start building that trust and we like to

1413
01:18:12.319 --> 01:18:15.680
<v Speaker 11>twelve months is what we like to shoot for. Can

1414
01:18:15.760 --> 01:18:19.199
<v Speaker 11>some get uh you know, rehome prior to that, yes,

1415
01:18:19.600 --> 01:18:22.239
<v Speaker 11>do some take a little bit longer, yes, but that's

1416
01:18:22.279 --> 01:18:25.079
<v Speaker 11>we We figure that twelve month period is a good

1417
01:18:25.119 --> 01:18:29.840
<v Speaker 11>time uh to get them, to get them decompressed, to

1418
01:18:29.880 --> 01:18:34.199
<v Speaker 11>get them through the training, and then uh typically put

1419
01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:36.399
<v Speaker 11>them we have x amount of hours we want to

1420
01:18:36.399 --> 01:18:40.479
<v Speaker 11>put them under saddle before before we do re home them.

1421
01:18:40.600 --> 01:18:43.640
<v Speaker 11>That's our goal. However, there have been some folks that

1422
01:18:43.760 --> 01:18:46.840
<v Speaker 11>have adopted the horses at the time and they wanted.

1423
01:18:46.680 --> 01:18:50.359
<v Speaker 7>To finish the horses off themselves. Oh, and that they can.

1424
01:18:50.399 --> 01:18:53.279
<v Speaker 11>They can do that as well, And that's an agreement

1425
01:18:53.319 --> 01:18:56.960
<v Speaker 11>between the individual who's adopting and us the board it

1426
01:18:57.039 --> 01:19:00.880
<v Speaker 11>Mustang Journey determine the best if that's going to be

1427
01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:02.880
<v Speaker 11>the best scenario for the horse, all.

1428
01:19:02.840 --> 01:19:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Right, case by case basis, this makes perfect sense.

1429
01:19:05.079 --> 01:19:08.920
<v Speaker 2>I know some people who are truly horse people, and

1430
01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:12.079
<v Speaker 2>I can see them perhaps wanting to pursue that path,

1431
01:19:12.159 --> 01:19:14.880
<v Speaker 2>but they've owned horses for decades and they know everything

1432
01:19:14.920 --> 01:19:16.960
<v Speaker 2>there is to know about them. Now, is there is

1433
01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:19.640
<v Speaker 2>it difficult to rehome these horses? Is there a waiting

1434
01:19:19.680 --> 01:19:21.840
<v Speaker 2>list or do you have to reach out and sort

1435
01:19:21.840 --> 01:19:24.039
<v Speaker 2>of market them? How does that work for Troy?

1436
01:19:25.319 --> 01:19:27.640
<v Speaker 7>You know, that's a great question.

1437
01:19:29.279 --> 01:19:32.479
<v Speaker 11>The Mustang network, if I can say, it's across the

1438
01:19:32.560 --> 01:19:36.279
<v Speaker 11>United States and there's several thousands horses out there, several

1439
01:19:36.319 --> 01:19:41.520
<v Speaker 11>thousands of people that are involved with Mustangs. But it's

1440
01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:46.159
<v Speaker 11>a very intimate community. And there's a story about a

1441
01:19:46.199 --> 01:19:51.039
<v Speaker 11>horse spirit that we had a very photogenic horse in

1442
01:19:51.119 --> 01:19:55.119
<v Speaker 11>the herd management area in Honaky and Utah. She's a

1443
01:19:55.119 --> 01:19:58.920
<v Speaker 11>well documented horse by professional photographers. She's been on some

1444
01:19:58.960 --> 01:20:03.119
<v Speaker 11>PBS shows and uh, once we put her up for adoption,

1445
01:20:04.279 --> 01:20:08.279
<v Speaker 11>there was a mustang owner actually owns a Mustang. She

1446
01:20:08.439 --> 01:20:13.560
<v Speaker 11>owns her herd mate in sunny San Diego.

1447
01:20:15.039 --> 01:20:18.800
<v Speaker 7>So it just goes to show you it's it's.

1448
01:20:18.680 --> 01:20:23.039
<v Speaker 11>Intimate, but yet it's it's a tight knit, uh network.

1449
01:20:23.159 --> 01:20:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I get it.

1450
01:20:23.880 --> 01:20:25.600
<v Speaker 11>And once you when you know, once you put it

1451
01:20:25.640 --> 01:20:29.960
<v Speaker 11>out there, you know, folks, folks will find them, Folks

1452
01:20:29.960 --> 01:20:30.840
<v Speaker 11>will find the Mustangs.

1453
01:20:31.079 --> 01:20:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I get it.

1454
01:20:31.560 --> 01:20:33.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, my wife and I have just that

1455
01:20:33.399 --> 01:20:35.600
<v Speaker 2>way of example. It seems to be somewhat of a

1456
01:20:35.640 --> 01:20:39.560
<v Speaker 2>parallel were Doberman lovers and there are there's a network

1457
01:20:39.640 --> 01:20:42.640
<v Speaker 2>of Doberman rescues, just like there are there's a network

1458
01:20:42.640 --> 01:20:46.800
<v Speaker 2>of pitbull rescues or any other breed, but they are interconnected.

1459
01:20:46.880 --> 01:20:49.239
<v Speaker 2>So if you know, there's somebody in Cincinnati that's looking

1460
01:20:49.279 --> 01:20:51.479
<v Speaker 2>for to rescue a Doberman, and it doesn't have to

1461
01:20:51.479 --> 01:20:53.800
<v Speaker 2>be any it doesn't there's not one necessarily in the area.

1462
01:20:54.039 --> 01:20:55.800
<v Speaker 2>You can reach out to the one in Kentucky, or

1463
01:20:55.840 --> 01:20:57.359
<v Speaker 2>they reach out with the one in Indiana.

1464
01:20:57.840 --> 01:20:58.000
<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's how that works a lot. I understand how

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01:21:00.279 --> 01:21:03.680
<v Speaker 2>that connection works. So there is a Mustang community out there.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm glad to know that because I, yeah, my

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01:21:07.319 --> 01:21:09.359
<v Speaker 2>wife would love to own a horse, and I just

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01:21:09.600 --> 01:21:12.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, like honey, there's no way. So it's just

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<v Speaker 2>it seems to me it would be an uphill challenge

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<v Speaker 2>to place these Mustangs, but apparently it's not now moving

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<v Speaker 2>aside from the uh the valor program, UH, the Trust

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01:21:23.600 --> 01:21:27.119
<v Speaker 2>and Valor program. Do you take volunteers? But I know

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01:21:27.199 --> 01:21:29.960
<v Speaker 2>you're located in Goshen, so my listeners know that, and

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01:21:30.600 --> 01:21:32.640
<v Speaker 2>do you are you looking for volunteers? I know you

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01:21:32.680 --> 01:21:34.880
<v Speaker 2>want donations, and so I will encourage my listeners if

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01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:37.119
<v Speaker 2>you want to donate to this wonderful cause. It's Mustang

1478
01:21:37.199 --> 01:21:39.760
<v Speaker 2>Journey dot org. There's a little donate button. But how

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01:21:39.800 --> 01:21:41.840
<v Speaker 2>about just folks who would like to spend some time

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01:21:41.920 --> 01:21:44.800
<v Speaker 2>there mucking or leading or doing whatever. Does you need

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01:21:44.880 --> 01:21:45.279
<v Speaker 2>them to do?

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01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:47.800
<v Speaker 7>Absolutely?

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01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:52.000
<v Speaker 11>Absolutely, We're always looking for volunteers, you know, to support

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01:21:52.079 --> 01:21:57.359
<v Speaker 11>Mustang Journey. And typically the draw to Mustang Journey is

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01:21:57.399 --> 01:21:59.600
<v Speaker 11>the care team that I mentioned, Folks that just want

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01:21:59.600 --> 01:22:02.199
<v Speaker 11>to kind of mountain just you know, take care of them,

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01:22:03.319 --> 01:22:06.680
<v Speaker 11>you know, feed water, mock, pick up a miller and

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01:22:06.760 --> 01:22:08.680
<v Speaker 11>you know, and just spend time with them. But they

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01:22:08.720 --> 01:22:13.119
<v Speaker 11>can certainly reach out to us, and there's obviously some

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01:22:13.119 --> 01:22:16.840
<v Speaker 11>some paperwork that they would need to fill out, and yeah,

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01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:21.119
<v Speaker 11>just and and get started. You have two or three orientations,

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01:22:21.720 --> 01:22:23.680
<v Speaker 11>depending on the level of horse knowledge.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, when you feel comfortable being the in the

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01:22:26.199 --> 01:22:28.880
<v Speaker 11>pen and taking care of them, then we'll just kind

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01:22:28.920 --> 01:22:32.680
<v Speaker 11>of not turn you loose, but go through the orientation

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01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:34.640
<v Speaker 11>and then you can start taking care of them. That

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01:22:34.960 --> 01:22:36.399
<v Speaker 11>we have a we have a community. We have a

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01:22:36.479 --> 01:22:39.840
<v Speaker 11>we have a community calendar h that you can you

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<v Speaker 11>can put your name on a certain time. It's called

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01:22:43.520 --> 01:22:46.600
<v Speaker 11>time tree and uh you can put your name on

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01:22:46.680 --> 01:22:49.039
<v Speaker 11>the on the calendar when you want to. If you

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01:22:49.079 --> 01:22:52.039
<v Speaker 11>once a week, once a month, twice a week, it's

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01:22:52.159 --> 01:22:52.600
<v Speaker 11>up to you.

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01:22:52.880 --> 01:22:55.520
<v Speaker 2>That's wonderful. I have a feeling you may get some

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01:22:55.560 --> 01:22:58.479
<v Speaker 2>calls on this or some some outreach and I see

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01:22:58.600 --> 01:23:01.800
<v Speaker 2>on your your website how much a bail of hay is,

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01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:04.680
<v Speaker 2>how much the grain is, and you know, veterinary visit

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01:23:04.760 --> 01:23:07.199
<v Speaker 2>and all that. There's donation levels. You can be a

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01:23:07.199 --> 01:23:09.199
<v Speaker 2>sponsor of a horse for a full year at a

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01:23:09.239 --> 01:23:12.039
<v Speaker 2>certain level, so there's a multitude of ways to help out.

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01:23:12.159 --> 01:23:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Or you can just show up and and help them

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01:23:14.600 --> 01:23:17.680
<v Speaker 2>clean the stalls out and work with some beautiful mustangs

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01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:19.560
<v Speaker 2>and they are absolutely beautiful beasts.

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<v Speaker 1>Troy Day, thanks.

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01:23:21.039 --> 01:23:22.880
<v Speaker 2>For the time you spend with my listeners today and

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01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:25.800
<v Speaker 2>explaining Mustang journey to my listening audience. I think it's

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01:23:25.800 --> 01:23:28.760
<v Speaker 2>a wonderful thing you're doing. And keep up the great work,

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01:23:28.800 --> 01:23:31.680
<v Speaker 2>and uh hopefully we'll have you back on the show

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01:23:31.680 --> 01:23:32.800
<v Speaker 2>down the road again sometime.

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<v Speaker 11>Absolutely, I appreciate thank you for having me certainly appreciate it,

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01:23:37.159 --> 01:23:42.880
<v Speaker 11>and like to invite you and your wife out, come

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01:23:42.920 --> 01:23:44.199
<v Speaker 11>on out and meet the Mustang.

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01:23:44.279 --> 01:23:46.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, get the horse part out of her system for

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01:23:46.159 --> 01:23:47.600
<v Speaker 2>a little bit. She grew up on a farm and

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01:23:47.640 --> 01:23:49.479
<v Speaker 2>had a horse when she was young, so that's where

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01:23:49.479 --> 01:23:51.680
<v Speaker 2>that comes from. And thanks again for the work.

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01:23:52.159 --> 01:23:54.159
<v Speaker 11>The way you can, you know, have somebody else take

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01:23:54.159 --> 01:23:55.359
<v Speaker 11>care of the horses and you can just come out

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01:23:55.359 --> 01:23:56.199
<v Speaker 11>and spend time with them.

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01:23:56.279 --> 01:23:58.479
<v Speaker 2>I like that idea, man, I like that idea. And

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01:23:58.520 --> 01:24:01.479
<v Speaker 2>thanks again for helping the American and first responder Troy Day.

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01:24:01.479 --> 01:24:04.680
<v Speaker 2>It's been a real pleasure. Mustang Journey dot Org is

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01:24:04.680 --> 01:24:07.119
<v Speaker 2>where you find the organization and help him out in

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01:24:07.119 --> 01:24:09.000
<v Speaker 2>some way. Troy, take care of yourself and keep up

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01:24:09.039 --> 01:24:12.119
<v Speaker 2>the great work. It's seven twenty two at fifty five KR.

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01:24:12.199 --> 01:24:14.520
<v Speaker 2>See the talk station bottom of there. We're gonna hear

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01:24:14.560 --> 01:24:16.319
<v Speaker 2>from Daniel Davis with a deep dive, So to stick

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01:24:16.359 --> 01:24:18.840
<v Speaker 2>around for that. Seven thirty here fifty five CARCD Talk

1540
01:24:18.880 --> 01:24:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Station a very happy Friday, and so please do a

1541
01:24:21.920 --> 01:24:25.800
<v Speaker 2>special edition with retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis since we

1542
01:24:25.800 --> 01:24:28.000
<v Speaker 2>missed out on an opportunity due to a technical glitch.

1543
01:24:28.079 --> 01:24:30.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, sometimes without Joe, the show don't go, even

1544
01:24:30.520 --> 01:24:33.079
<v Speaker 2>though Seaman Man is doing a wonderful job covering for Joe.

1545
01:24:33.760 --> 01:24:36.079
<v Speaker 2>Better late than never. Welcome back Daniel Davis at the

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01:24:36.079 --> 01:24:38.199
<v Speaker 2>fifty five KRCY Morning Show. It's as always a pleasure

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01:24:38.239 --> 01:24:38.760
<v Speaker 2>talking with you.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, I'm just feeling really like almost withdraw symptoms from

1549
01:24:43.479 --> 01:24:45.319
<v Speaker 13>heaven not talk to you on Tuesday, so I'm glad

1550
01:24:45.359 --> 01:24:46.000
<v Speaker 13>we made it up.

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01:24:46.079 --> 01:24:49.439
<v Speaker 2>It's always an enjoyable and engaging discussion and very informative.

1552
01:24:49.560 --> 01:24:52.039
<v Speaker 2>And I didn't get a topic from you, but I

1553
01:24:52.119 --> 01:24:54.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of assumed it would be a continuation of our

1554
01:24:54.399 --> 01:24:57.840
<v Speaker 2>ongoing discussion over the situation between Russia and Ukraine. And

1555
01:24:57.840 --> 01:24:59.760
<v Speaker 2>if you want to go in a different direction, that's fine.

1556
01:24:59.800 --> 01:25:01.760
<v Speaker 2>But I had to ask you about this because my

1557
01:25:01.800 --> 01:25:05.640
<v Speaker 2>friends over Breiitbart were reporting that the British Defense Minister

1558
01:25:06.239 --> 01:25:09.319
<v Speaker 2>was meeting yesterday they got around thirty countries to move

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01:25:09.319 --> 01:25:14.880
<v Speaker 2>forward with plans on deploying troops to defend Ukraine or otherwise,

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01:25:15.239 --> 01:25:18.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, after a peace deal is negotiated to secure

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01:25:18.199 --> 01:25:21.800
<v Speaker 2>the perimeter or something. They said two hundred military planners

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01:25:21.800 --> 01:25:24.359
<v Speaker 2>from thirty countries were working to develop plans for deepening

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01:25:24.399 --> 01:25:28.359
<v Speaker 2>European involvement in Ukraine. But here is the and it's

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01:25:28.399 --> 01:25:31.479
<v Speaker 2>not funny because we're talking about war and we're talking

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01:25:31.479 --> 01:25:35.880
<v Speaker 2>about people dying. But as briip Art right, real quick,

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01:25:35.920 --> 01:25:38.560
<v Speaker 2>as breibart Rite's building a force big enough to act

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01:25:38.600 --> 01:25:42.399
<v Speaker 2>as a credible deterrent is proving a considerable effort for

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01:25:42.520 --> 01:25:45.920
<v Speaker 2>nations that strength their militaries after the Cold War, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>no kidding, I mean without us, they can't even defend themselves.

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01:25:50.079 --> 01:25:52.640
<v Speaker 2>How are they going to take on this large responsibility

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<v Speaker 2>when they don't have any armies of any size any longer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is truly bizarre.

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<v Speaker 13>I'll say their meeting, by the way, that was the

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<v Speaker 13>Coalition of the Willing Military arm meeting there yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking today.

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<v Speaker 13>The defense ministers are meeting in Germany to talk about

1577
01:26:10.600 --> 01:26:13.479
<v Speaker 13>nuth aid, which apparently just a couple hours ago was

1578
01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:17.079
<v Speaker 13>released like twenty twenty one billion dollars in additional aid

1579
01:26:17.119 --> 01:26:19.600
<v Speaker 13>something like that. But I mean it's puzzling because the

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01:26:19.680 --> 01:26:22.039
<v Speaker 13>Russians are saying, hey, we're working with Trump to try

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01:26:22.079 --> 01:26:24.640
<v Speaker 13>to find a way to end this war, but we

1582
01:26:24.760 --> 01:26:28.399
<v Speaker 13>keep telling you that no NATO countries will be allowed

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01:26:28.520 --> 01:26:30.880
<v Speaker 13>any kind of a peacekeeping force at all. It's a

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01:26:31.079 --> 01:26:34.079
<v Speaker 13>complete and total non starter. So then the question has

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<v Speaker 13>to be if we're telling you that is not even

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<v Speaker 13>on the table for the Russian side, and you can't

1587
01:26:38.680 --> 01:26:40.960
<v Speaker 13>have them in there unless there's an agreement on both sides,

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01:26:41.199 --> 01:26:43.640
<v Speaker 13>then why are you going down a path that is

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<v Speaker 13>not going to be acceptable to anyone?

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<v Speaker 1>It is bizarre to me.

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<v Speaker 13>And then, as you said, it's also alarming because they

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01:26:50.359 --> 01:26:53.359
<v Speaker 13>can't even come up with enough people even to put

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01:26:53.399 --> 01:26:55.880
<v Speaker 13>on paper that could go up in there. And I

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01:26:55.880 --> 01:26:58.239
<v Speaker 13>don't know that they realize it, but that is signaling

1595
01:26:58.399 --> 01:27:01.920
<v Speaker 13>significant weakness to the Russian side to get more bold

1596
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<v Speaker 13>because they see that their paper military on the whole

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<v Speaker 13>Western side, and that's something that should trouble all of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yes, and I'm certain Russian intelligence is painfully well

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<v Speaker 2>obviously aware of the limitations of the European Union's military forces.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're I mean, you understand military warfare and deployment

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01:27:21.239 --> 01:27:24.359
<v Speaker 2>of troops This isn't like if they had a sizable

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01:27:24.359 --> 01:27:28.479
<v Speaker 2>military force and sufficient assets and missile systems and weapons

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01:27:28.520 --> 01:27:31.359
<v Speaker 2>systems and satellite capabilities, they had everything they need in

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01:27:31.439 --> 01:27:35.880
<v Speaker 2>order to wage a potential war. They're not that far

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01:27:35.920 --> 01:27:38.760
<v Speaker 2>away from Ukraine. I mean, they're right there on the perimeter.

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01:27:39.079 --> 01:27:42.159
<v Speaker 2>It's not like deploying forces from you know, the Gulf

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01:27:42.199 --> 01:27:45.239
<v Speaker 2>of Mexico I'm sorry, Gulf of America over to Saudi

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01:27:45.239 --> 01:27:49.159
<v Speaker 2>Arabia and and and and even to launch missiles at

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01:27:49.159 --> 01:27:52.479
<v Speaker 2>the Huthis that takes a long time. But if you're

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01:27:52.520 --> 01:27:56.359
<v Speaker 2>already in you know, Western Europe, it's not that far

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01:27:56.479 --> 01:27:59.720
<v Speaker 2>of a drive to get to Ukraine, right, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>missing something?

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<v Speaker 13>No, And in fact, we you know, when I grew

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<v Speaker 13>up in the Cold War in the in the army,

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01:28:06.319 --> 01:28:07.760
<v Speaker 13>in the US Army there, and we used to have

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01:28:07.840 --> 01:28:11.680
<v Speaker 13>what's called Reforger or return Forces Germany, where we would

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01:28:11.720 --> 01:28:15.199
<v Speaker 13>do this big movement every year or two, would send

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01:28:15.239 --> 01:28:17.760
<v Speaker 13>you know, huge numbers of forces and be tens or

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01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:20.039
<v Speaker 13>hundreds of thousands of troops would take part from all

1620
01:28:20.039 --> 01:28:22.359
<v Speaker 13>the different NATO countries moving around to show that we

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01:28:22.439 --> 01:28:25.680
<v Speaker 13>had the capacity to physically fight in the event that

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01:28:25.680 --> 01:28:27.239
<v Speaker 13>the Soviet Union ever invaded.

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01:28:27.600 --> 01:28:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, now then.

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<v Speaker 13>You see that how far the whole, the whole NATO

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01:28:32.399 --> 01:28:36.079
<v Speaker 13>itself has deteriorated, that it can't even muster a handful

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01:28:36.119 --> 01:28:38.880
<v Speaker 13>of thousands. I mean, originally they were looking for as

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01:28:39.159 --> 01:28:42.439
<v Speaker 13>far back as December two hundred thousand peacekeepers, and then

1628
01:28:42.479 --> 01:28:45.039
<v Speaker 13>they said, well, maybe one hundred thousand. Now then they're

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01:28:45.039 --> 01:28:48.239
<v Speaker 13>saying maybe thirty thousand. Yeah, and they're having a hard

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01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:51.800
<v Speaker 13>time with that. What kind of signal does that send

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<v Speaker 13>to your potential adversary on the Russian side, who, by

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01:28:54.720 --> 01:28:58.239
<v Speaker 13>the way, have expanded to one point five million active

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01:28:58.279 --> 01:28:59.720
<v Speaker 13>troops and growing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that is I mean, I suppose one could characterize

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01:29:05.920 --> 01:29:09.439
<v Speaker 2>it as an as an existential threat, but recognizing that

1636
01:29:09.520 --> 01:29:13.960
<v Speaker 2>you're still talking about some nuclear armed countries in spite

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01:29:13.960 --> 01:29:16.199
<v Speaker 2>of the fact they have very few people to you know,

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01:29:16.439 --> 01:29:19.439
<v Speaker 2>wage a war, you're still looking at the potential of

1639
01:29:19.479 --> 01:29:24.199
<v Speaker 2>the you know, the holocaust like nuclear holocaust scenario, which

1640
01:29:24.239 --> 01:29:26.439
<v Speaker 2>is the only thing I suppose that prevents Russia from

1641
01:29:26.439 --> 01:29:29.520
<v Speaker 2>actually going in and invading Western Europe, which I don't

1642
01:29:29.560 --> 01:29:31.680
<v Speaker 2>really believe. And maybe you've got some thoughts on this

1643
01:29:32.079 --> 01:29:34.239
<v Speaker 2>that that's something Vladimir Putin wants to take on.

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01:29:36.039 --> 01:29:38.560
<v Speaker 13>No, he does not want to do that, but he

1645
01:29:38.640 --> 01:29:40.720
<v Speaker 13>is building up a force that could do that if

1646
01:29:40.720 --> 01:29:43.520
<v Speaker 13>he feels that he is threatened to the point to

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01:29:43.560 --> 01:29:48.520
<v Speaker 13>where the NATO nations are actually thinking about going beyond

1648
01:29:48.560 --> 01:29:51.479
<v Speaker 13>where they already have, which is supporting a war against Russia,

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01:29:51.520 --> 01:29:53.159
<v Speaker 13>and if they don't reach a peace agreement.

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01:29:53.199 --> 01:29:54.640
<v Speaker 1>They're saying, hey, at some point.

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01:29:54.600 --> 01:29:57.800
<v Speaker 13>If we can't assure our security on our western flank

1652
01:29:58.079 --> 01:30:01.359
<v Speaker 13>through negotiations to end this war, then we'll take whatever

1653
01:30:01.399 --> 01:30:03.600
<v Speaker 13>actions we need to to go first. There are many

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01:30:03.600 --> 01:30:05.439
<v Speaker 13>in the Kremlin that are pushing hard for that. I'll

1655
01:30:05.439 --> 01:30:06.920
<v Speaker 13>just tell you straight up. I see it in the

1656
01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:09.720
<v Speaker 13>Russian media. They have been very open. I'm talking Russian

1657
01:30:09.760 --> 01:30:12.399
<v Speaker 13>state media has been very open about saying that's what

1658
01:30:12.439 --> 01:30:15.560
<v Speaker 13>we should do. They're building a force that could potentially

1659
01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:18.800
<v Speaker 13>do that. Meanwhile, we're just talking on the other side.

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<v Speaker 13>And Brian, all of this puts in great relief that

1661
01:30:23.319 --> 01:30:24.960
<v Speaker 13>when you look at what we talked about a lot,

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01:30:25.039 --> 01:30:27.399
<v Speaker 13>the balance of power between the two sides is just

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01:30:27.439 --> 01:30:30.319
<v Speaker 13>irrevocably on the Russian side for the Russia Ukraine War,

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01:30:30.600 --> 01:30:34.000
<v Speaker 13>It's now evident it also extends into the NATO alliance

1665
01:30:34.319 --> 01:30:37.520
<v Speaker 13>and instead of recognizing that and going, holy crap, let's

1666
01:30:37.560 --> 01:30:39.399
<v Speaker 13>get this war over with and see if we can

1667
01:30:39.439 --> 01:30:43.039
<v Speaker 13>fill the holes here, they're ignoring the reality, still trying

1668
01:30:43.039 --> 01:30:45.359
<v Speaker 13>to pretend it's back during the time I was serving

1669
01:30:45.359 --> 01:30:48.920
<v Speaker 13>and when Reforger, when the balance of power was evil equal,

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<v Speaker 13>And instead they're continuing with this fiction that they're going

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<v Speaker 13>to try and beat Russia through Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make any sense at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, looking forward, let's assume the worst case

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01:30:59.479 --> 01:31:04.159
<v Speaker 2>scenario that Okay, the warmongers that surround Pewton have their

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<v Speaker 2>way and Russia goes ahead and tries to take over

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01:31:07.279 --> 01:31:11.479
<v Speaker 2>Western Europe. I don't care if they have two million troops,

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01:31:12.079 --> 01:31:16.000
<v Speaker 2>how many millions of people live in Western Europe. I mean,

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01:31:16.039 --> 01:31:18.800
<v Speaker 2>you can't. You can't hold the block, if you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. If you've got enough people, you know,

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01:31:20.760 --> 01:31:23.720
<v Speaker 2>willing to take pot shots and random Russian soldiers, you

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01:31:23.800 --> 01:31:29.279
<v Speaker 2>got this potential long term, you know, unsustainable girl of warfare.

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01:31:29.279 --> 01:31:31.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, think about we were in Afghanistan for how

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01:31:31.720 --> 01:31:35.880
<v Speaker 2>many years, one single country, and we ended up pulling out.

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01:31:35.960 --> 01:31:39.800
<v Speaker 2>The great American might, the great American military couldn't hold

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01:31:39.920 --> 01:31:43.640
<v Speaker 2>one country. And I don't know the size of maybe

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01:31:43.640 --> 01:31:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Texas or something. I don't know what the geographical realities are,

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01:31:46.800 --> 01:31:51.199
<v Speaker 2>but when you really practically think about this, it's almost

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01:31:51.199 --> 01:31:53.600
<v Speaker 2>it seems like an insurmountable challenge.

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<v Speaker 13>Well see, and that's that's if Russia wanted to occupy

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01:31:57.359 --> 01:32:00.319
<v Speaker 13>all of Europe, which they don't even even in. And

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01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:02.880
<v Speaker 13>the version what they're talking right now, these warhawks in

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01:32:03.319 --> 01:32:05.920
<v Speaker 13>the Moscow side is that they just want to defeat

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01:32:05.960 --> 01:32:09.359
<v Speaker 13>the military capacity of NATO and then so that they

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01:32:09.359 --> 01:32:11.640
<v Speaker 13>can ensure that they're safe because there won't be a threat,

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01:32:11.680 --> 01:32:13.720
<v Speaker 13>and then they would return home. So this is more

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01:32:13.760 --> 01:32:17.800
<v Speaker 13>like an exponential expeditionary event, not a conquest event.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I think that boiled down though, that's

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01:32:21.359 --> 01:32:24.079
<v Speaker 2>bluster on the part of the warmongers over in Russia,

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01:32:24.119 --> 01:32:27.039
<v Speaker 2>because as you and I have just talked about, the

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01:32:27.119 --> 01:32:29.359
<v Speaker 2>NATO alliance isn't really a threat.

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<v Speaker 13>Well there's that, and maybe that's why Russia or Putin

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01:32:34.640 --> 01:32:37.119
<v Speaker 13>himself has pushed back against the hawks, because he said

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01:32:37.119 --> 01:32:39.920
<v Speaker 13>they don't really represent a threat, but they do want this.

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01:32:39.840 --> 01:32:42.159
<v Speaker 1>War over, yeah, and they're willing to do whatever it takes.

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01:32:42.159 --> 01:32:44.960
<v Speaker 13>And I think that that's where they could and according

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01:32:45.000 --> 01:32:46.520
<v Speaker 13>to General Sersky this morning.

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01:32:47.119 --> 01:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>I just saw it just before we came on an air.

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01:32:48.960 --> 01:32:51.399
<v Speaker 13>He said that the Russian offensive that they've been warning

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01:32:51.399 --> 01:32:55.000
<v Speaker 13>about began apparently yesterday the day before. It's apparently a

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01:32:55.079 --> 01:32:57.800
<v Speaker 13>slow greet, but it's an increase in the Zaparisia and

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01:32:57.800 --> 01:32:59.039
<v Speaker 13>in the Sumi area in the north.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll see where that goes.

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01:33:01.000 --> 01:33:03.479
<v Speaker 13>But Russia may be deciding to just solve this on

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01:33:03.479 --> 01:33:06.079
<v Speaker 13>the battlefield if they can't get a diplomacy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and the more they take over, the better their

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01:33:08.359 --> 01:33:11.119
<v Speaker 2>position becomes in a negotiation, and maybe that may be

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01:33:11.199 --> 01:33:13.239
<v Speaker 2>the point of moving in. You know, if you guys

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01:33:13.279 --> 01:33:16.159
<v Speaker 2>aren't sitting down at the table and working on terms

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01:33:16.199 --> 01:33:19.600
<v Speaker 2>that are at least palatable to the Russians, because guess what,

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01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:23.319
<v Speaker 2>we're winning and we continue to win, and you're running

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01:33:23.359 --> 01:33:27.479
<v Speaker 2>out of soldiers and munitions. I'm sorry, you don't have

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01:33:27.520 --> 01:33:30.319
<v Speaker 2>any negotiation here. So let's get it over with. You

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01:33:30.359 --> 01:33:33.960
<v Speaker 2>give us the Russian occupied primarily Russian people regions, that's

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01:33:34.000 --> 01:33:35.840
<v Speaker 2>what you know we want. We'll let you have the

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01:33:35.880 --> 01:33:37.640
<v Speaker 2>rest of Ukraine because they don't want to send there,

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01:33:37.640 --> 01:33:39.600
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to send there. Let's get this thing

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01:33:39.640 --> 01:33:42.439
<v Speaker 2>over with because that's the obvious conclusion if you're going

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01:33:42.439 --> 01:33:46.039
<v Speaker 2>to negotiate piece, that's what's gonna happen, right.

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<v Speaker 13>Brian, Listen, I think I'm gonna see if I can't

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01:33:48.800 --> 01:33:50.640
<v Speaker 13>get a hold of President Trump this morning and puts

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01:33:50.680 --> 01:33:53.520
<v Speaker 13>you in charge of the negotiating game, because you got it,

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01:33:53.760 --> 01:33:55.800
<v Speaker 13>you have it figured out, and we just need to

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01:33:55.840 --> 01:33:59.520
<v Speaker 13>make sure that you bring Europe alongside your obvious logic

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01:33:59.560 --> 01:34:02.479
<v Speaker 13>and ration thought there, because that's the only way this

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01:34:02.520 --> 01:34:04.479
<v Speaker 13>is going to get to an end, because no war

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01:34:04.520 --> 01:34:07.399
<v Speaker 13>is going to end until one side at least recognizes

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01:34:07.479 --> 01:34:12.000
<v Speaker 13>finally that they can no longer continue to put forth

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01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:15.239
<v Speaker 13>effective resistance and to the point of where they go,

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01:34:15.359 --> 01:34:17.720
<v Speaker 13>all right, we either keep fighting and dying or we

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01:34:17.760 --> 01:34:21.800
<v Speaker 13>make a deal. And apparently the West, certainly it's not,

1741
01:34:21.880 --> 01:34:23.920
<v Speaker 13>and I guess Ukraine hasn't gotten to that point either.

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01:34:24.319 --> 01:34:26.640
<v Speaker 13>So we have a new Russian offensive and we'll see

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01:34:26.640 --> 01:34:27.279
<v Speaker 13>where that goes.

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01:34:27.359 --> 01:34:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, maybe they can play this conversation to the

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01:34:29.640 --> 01:34:32.199
<v Speaker 2>collective that's going to be meeting today. All I'm saying is,

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01:34:32.239 --> 01:34:35.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, listen, we lost Vietnam. We pulled out and

1747
01:34:35.319 --> 01:34:37.079
<v Speaker 2>we lost, but you know what, now they're a trading

1748
01:34:37.119 --> 01:34:38.800
<v Speaker 2>partner with us so over the long term and ended

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01:34:38.840 --> 01:34:39.359
<v Speaker 2>up working out.

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01:34:39.359 --> 01:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>We licked our wounds. We looked bad, and you know

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01:34:43.600 --> 01:34:46.560
<v Speaker 1>you move on right. It's time to do this.

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01:34:46.680 --> 01:34:50.319
<v Speaker 2>It's time to quit killing. End the story. Daniel Davis

1753
01:34:50.359 --> 01:34:52.279
<v Speaker 2>Deep Die find them online, listen to this podcast. I

1754
01:34:52.279 --> 01:34:54.920
<v Speaker 2>always love the conversation, Danie'll look forward to and actually

1755
01:34:55.000 --> 01:34:57.640
<v Speaker 2>not next season. I'm off all week. Next week I'm

1756
01:34:57.680 --> 01:34:59.920
<v Speaker 2>taking a mental health week. Got to have one ever

1757
01:35:00.119 --> 01:35:01.840
<v Speaker 2>once in a while, So I'm taking the week off.

1758
01:35:01.880 --> 01:35:05.600
<v Speaker 2>But fast forward a week from Tuesday, we'll hit the

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01:35:05.640 --> 01:35:06.520
<v Speaker 2>ground running again.

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01:35:07.399 --> 01:35:08.960
<v Speaker 13>Well, look forward to it, and I'll let you know

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01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:11.479
<v Speaker 13>what President Trump says about you being the negotiating team.

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01:35:11.600 --> 01:35:14.600
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it. Take care of yourself. My brother will

1763
01:35:14.600 --> 01:35:15.079
<v Speaker 2>talk soon.

1764
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<v Speaker 1>Seven.

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01:35:17.319 --> 01:35:20.800
<v Speaker 2>If it's five KR Seed the talk station, it's seven

1766
01:35:20.960 --> 01:35:24.760
<v Speaker 2>fifty fifty five car Seed Talk Station. After having a

1767
01:35:24.800 --> 01:35:27.560
<v Speaker 2>happy Friday, Hey, Sean went opened the phone lines up

1768
01:35:27.560 --> 01:35:31.159
<v Speaker 2>just in case somebody wants to call. I want to

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01:35:31.199 --> 01:35:33.640
<v Speaker 2>thank again as I had such a wonderful time hearing

1770
01:35:34.520 --> 01:35:38.399
<v Speaker 2>vivik Ramaswami last night at the Warren Kind of Republican Club,

1771
01:35:38.439 --> 01:35:40.800
<v Speaker 2>and I had the I was blessed with the opportunity

1772
01:35:40.800 --> 01:35:43.840
<v Speaker 2>to introduce him. But just the guy is great. If

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01:35:43.840 --> 01:35:45.600
<v Speaker 2>you haven't heard him speak, if you haven't met him

1774
01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:48.560
<v Speaker 2>in person, and when you have an opportunity, please do so.

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01:35:48.680 --> 01:35:50.399
<v Speaker 2>He will be the next governor of the state of

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01:35:50.399 --> 01:35:53.720
<v Speaker 2>Ohio absent something insane going on. I can't imagine Ohio

1777
01:35:53.840 --> 01:35:56.039
<v Speaker 2>flipping blue between now and then. And I can't imagine

1778
01:35:56.039 --> 01:36:03.000
<v Speaker 2>anybody voting for Amy Lockdown acting think about that. I

1779
01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:07.600
<v Speaker 2>always think of that the Blues Brothers. You know, you

1780
01:36:07.640 --> 01:36:09.720
<v Speaker 2>don't have to go home, but you can't stay here

1781
01:36:09.760 --> 01:36:13.520
<v Speaker 2>when the bar closed. You can stay here, but you

1782
01:36:13.560 --> 01:36:16.199
<v Speaker 2>can't order a drink after ten pm. But what the

1783
01:36:16.239 --> 01:36:19.000
<v Speaker 2>hell that's going to stop COVID from spreading. What a

1784
01:36:19.039 --> 01:36:21.760
<v Speaker 2>bunch of nonsensical garbage that you and I lived through.

1785
01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:26.479
<v Speaker 2>And as it turns out, apparently the China has now

1786
01:36:26.520 --> 01:36:30.520
<v Speaker 2>admitted or rather there's this new report out. I'm going

1787
01:36:30.560 --> 01:36:33.800
<v Speaker 2>to get my stories about China mixed up, a new

1788
01:36:33.800 --> 01:36:38.359
<v Speaker 2>report out that the Biden administration sat on talking about this.

1789
01:36:38.680 --> 01:36:43.720
<v Speaker 2>The spread of COVID nineteen started a couple of months

1790
01:36:44.439 --> 01:36:47.840
<v Speaker 2>before it was actually let out to the public that

1791
01:36:47.840 --> 01:36:49.800
<v Speaker 2>there was such a thing as COVID nineteen. Going on

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01:36:49.840 --> 01:36:55.079
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two Defense Department report, described as long withheld

1793
01:36:55.159 --> 01:36:59.359
<v Speaker 2>by the Biden administration, has now surfaced, revealing that seven

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01:36:59.560 --> 01:37:03.720
<v Speaker 2>United the State's service members showed COVID nineteen like symptoms

1795
01:37:03.720 --> 01:37:09.560
<v Speaker 2>after having competed in the World Military Games in yes Wuhan, China.

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01:37:09.600 --> 01:37:12.000
<v Speaker 2>This is months before the virus broke out in the

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01:37:12.039 --> 01:37:16.119
<v Speaker 2>United States. Discloser now suggesting the virus was circulating around

1798
01:37:16.159 --> 01:37:19.199
<v Speaker 2>the city of Wuhan months before China let the world

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01:37:19.319 --> 01:37:22.439
<v Speaker 2>know in December of twenty nineteen that it was circulating.

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<v Speaker 2>The games took place in October twenty nineteen. According to

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01:37:27.399 --> 01:37:30.119
<v Speaker 2>Fox News reporting, this report was legally required to be

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01:37:30.199 --> 01:37:33.920
<v Speaker 2>released publicly online more than two years ago in a

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01:37:34.119 --> 01:37:37.520
<v Speaker 2>searchable format that's in quote, so it's based upon the obligation,

1804
01:37:38.039 --> 01:37:40.520
<v Speaker 2>but it only became available sometime in late March of

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01:37:40.520 --> 01:37:44.359
<v Speaker 2>this year, when the Trump administration finally uploaded it to

1806
01:37:44.399 --> 01:37:48.720
<v Speaker 2>the Defensive Apartment's website. Given credit to the Washington Free

1807
01:37:48.760 --> 01:37:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Beacon outloard report of the Bide administration did send copies

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01:37:52.600 --> 01:37:54.720
<v Speaker 2>of the report to the House and Senate Armed Services

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01:37:54.720 --> 01:37:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Committee back in December of twenty two, but the report

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01:37:57.079 --> 01:38:01.399
<v Speaker 2>was never made available online by the administration. Says that

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<v Speaker 2>there was no significant outbreak of COVID nineteen like symptoms

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01:38:04.279 --> 01:38:08.159
<v Speaker 2>at Defense Department facilities after the athlete's return, although service

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01:38:08.199 --> 01:38:11.680
<v Speaker 2>members were not tested for COVID nineteen or antibodies as

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01:38:11.720 --> 01:38:15.079
<v Speaker 2>testing was not available at that early stage of the pandemic.

1815
01:38:15.159 --> 01:38:18.079
<v Speaker 2>So it's certainly possible that this was spreading around and

1816
01:38:18.079 --> 01:38:21.039
<v Speaker 2>people were struggling with COVID nineteen like symptoms, but they

1817
01:38:21.039 --> 01:38:23.279
<v Speaker 2>didn't put their finger on it being COVID nineteen because

1818
01:38:23.279 --> 01:38:28.319
<v Speaker 2>the world wasn't aware of it yet. Apparently, other international

1819
01:38:28.399 --> 01:38:31.840
<v Speaker 2>athletes reported having come down with COVID nineteen like symptoms,

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01:38:31.880 --> 01:38:34.720
<v Speaker 2>according to Daily Mail reporting back in June of twenty

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01:38:34.760 --> 01:38:38.359
<v Speaker 2>twenty one, and they say the Games have long been

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01:38:38.359 --> 01:38:43.239
<v Speaker 2>suspected as a super spreader event because it took place

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01:38:43.319 --> 01:38:48.640
<v Speaker 2>close to the Wuhan Institute for Avirology. Don't drink after

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01:38:48.680 --> 01:38:50.760
<v Speaker 2>ten o'clock, Tom, Welcome to the Morning Show. Thanks for

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01:38:50.800 --> 01:38:51.479
<v Speaker 2>calling today.

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01:38:52.399 --> 01:38:54.279
<v Speaker 10>Why good morning, Brian. How you doing.

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01:38:54.399 --> 01:38:56.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great, man, It's Friday. I'm always doing creatd

1828
01:38:56.680 --> 01:38:58.760
<v Speaker 2>on a Friday, especially when the precedes me taking a

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01:38:58.800 --> 01:38:59.239
<v Speaker 2>week off.

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01:39:01.199 --> 01:39:01.439
<v Speaker 3>Ka.

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01:39:02.159 --> 01:39:04.239
<v Speaker 14>I figured i'd better get in now before you take

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01:39:04.279 --> 01:39:07.720
<v Speaker 14>your week off. I'm I'm getting very close to wrapping

1833
01:39:07.760 --> 01:39:10.600
<v Speaker 14>my job up, but you see, and and hopefully getting

1834
01:39:10.640 --> 01:39:12.720
<v Speaker 14>back on more of a normal schedule.

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01:39:12.840 --> 01:39:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Well normal meaning we're going to start hearing back from

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01:39:15.039 --> 01:39:17.000
<v Speaker 2>you at five point thirty in the morning on weekdays.

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01:39:17.720 --> 01:39:18.760
<v Speaker 10>Oh absolutely.

1838
01:39:18.800 --> 01:39:21.319
<v Speaker 14>I mean if I if I wasn't having to start

1839
01:39:21.359 --> 01:39:24.600
<v Speaker 14>work at five o'clock, you would have had to endure

1840
01:39:24.640 --> 01:39:26.199
<v Speaker 14>all my rants for the last year.

1841
01:39:26.319 --> 01:39:27.800
<v Speaker 10>So it's it's been a tough year.

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01:39:27.960 --> 01:39:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, I've missed hearing from you, but we do have

1843
01:39:29.920 --> 01:39:33.279
<v Speaker 2>your don't vote Democrat on SoundBite format and do run

1844
01:39:33.279 --> 01:39:35.520
<v Speaker 2>it occasionally. I don't know if you've ever heard heard

1845
01:39:35.600 --> 01:39:39.119
<v Speaker 2>us play it, but it certainly comes in handy from

1846
01:39:39.159 --> 01:39:41.279
<v Speaker 2>time to time, and it makes me thinking of Tom.

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01:39:41.279 --> 01:39:43.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to hear from you. Everything good in your world?

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01:39:44.119 --> 01:39:45.640
<v Speaker 10>Oh yeah, it doing all right.

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01:39:46.600 --> 01:39:50.680
<v Speaker 14>Recently, have to give props to my lovely bride. I've

1850
01:39:50.720 --> 01:39:53.680
<v Speaker 14>gotten into golf the last couple of years, a little

1851
01:39:53.720 --> 01:39:57.319
<v Speaker 14>late in life, but hey whatever, started playing some golf.

1852
01:39:57.359 --> 01:40:00.600
<v Speaker 14>And I've yet to play in Ohio, but just a

1853
01:40:00.640 --> 01:40:04.720
<v Speaker 14>couple of weeks ago i played Tory Pines. Oh yeah,

1854
01:40:04.920 --> 01:40:08.359
<v Speaker 14>in La Joiah. She heard me talking about it, and

1855
01:40:08.720 --> 01:40:11.039
<v Speaker 14>my birthday was coming up, and she booked me a

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01:40:11.119 --> 01:40:14.680
<v Speaker 14>tea time for Tory Pines. I got to play both courses,

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01:40:14.720 --> 01:40:16.880
<v Speaker 14>and uh I got to give her all the credits.

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01:40:16.920 --> 01:40:18.880
<v Speaker 14>She set the whole thing up and we had a

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01:40:18.960 --> 01:40:21.359
<v Speaker 14>We had a wonderful week out in the San Diego area.

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01:40:21.680 --> 01:40:22.960
<v Speaker 14>Beautiful place to visit.

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01:40:23.079 --> 01:40:25.640
<v Speaker 1>That's a lot. That is a long course.

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01:40:26.640 --> 01:40:30.760
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, that's the courses are long, but it's beautiful.

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01:40:30.920 --> 01:40:33.439
<v Speaker 2>I played that course. Actually, I'm not much of a golfer.

1864
01:40:33.520 --> 01:40:35.720
<v Speaker 2>My dad did insist that I learned how to play golf,

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01:40:35.760 --> 01:40:37.279
<v Speaker 2>and so the partner at the firm that I was

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01:40:37.319 --> 01:40:40.159
<v Speaker 2>working for, we were out there on business and we

1867
01:40:40.239 --> 01:40:42.359
<v Speaker 2>ended up playing Tory Pines and we walked it and

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01:40:42.399 --> 01:40:44.159
<v Speaker 2>I remember I was just exhausted by the.

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<v Speaker 1>End of that bro.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my god, why does anybody play

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01:40:47.479 --> 01:40:47.920
<v Speaker 2>this game?

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<v Speaker 10>And did you play the North or South course?

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01:40:50.840 --> 01:40:53.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. I just remember it was long.

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01:40:54.279 --> 01:40:56.720
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, they're both they're both pretty long. So yeah, that

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01:40:56.880 --> 01:41:00.239
<v Speaker 14>was good time. I recommend visiting, but damn man, it's

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01:41:00.279 --> 01:41:03.159
<v Speaker 14>expensive out there. It is pricey. I think the keep

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01:41:03.239 --> 01:41:05.479
<v Speaker 14>US I pay for gas was four sixty nine or

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01:41:05.560 --> 01:41:06.159
<v Speaker 14>something like that.

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<v Speaker 10>Everything there, Yeah, everything's expensive.

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<v Speaker 14>But you know your last story you just did with

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<v Speaker 14>the uh, with the whole COVID thing. If people haven't

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<v Speaker 14>figured it out by now, how much we're being lied

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<v Speaker 14>to by the Democrats especially Uh, I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 14>know what else is going to take to get people

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<v Speaker 14>to understand that you cannot, we cannot ever let the

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<v Speaker 14>Democrats gain any power or control in your in your town,

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<v Speaker 14>your counting, your state, and especially not the federal government.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 14>Whatever we got to do to make sure they don't

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<v Speaker 14>have any power over anything. Don't let them have the

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<v Speaker 14>Senate or the House back, don't let them get the presidency.

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<v Speaker 7>All that.

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<v Speaker 14>We we've got to make sure that doesn't happen because

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<v Speaker 14>we are, we are reeling from the damage of the

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<v Speaker 14>last you know, you say four years, Really it's been.

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<v Speaker 10>Going on for a lot longer than that.

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<v Speaker 14>It so finally, you know, it's gonna take a bull

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<v Speaker 14>in a china shop like Trump and and Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 14>to come in here break things down. Unfortunately, that's what's

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<v Speaker 14>kind of happen. So people don't panic, it's relax. It's

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<v Speaker 14>gonna get fixed.

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<v Speaker 7>And the only way.

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<v Speaker 14>It's gonna continue is if you keep voting for Republicans

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<v Speaker 14>to keep them in there so they can fix things

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<v Speaker 14>with all their problems they have. Whatever you do, don't

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<v Speaker 14>vote Democrat. Have a great day, Bryan Coo.

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<v Speaker 2>Waiting for that brother. You too good to hear from

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<v Speaker 2>you after a while. Seven fifty seven The Coming up Douglas,

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<v Speaker 2>Captain Douglas Ernest The Spirit of a True Patriot. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the book we'll be talking about right at the top

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<v Speaker 2>of our news eight o six I fifty five p

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<v Speaker 2>r C be Talk Station. By time's switching, You're on

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<v Speaker 2>a very very happy Friday. I having a little extra

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<v Speaker 2>good mood. Not that I don't love being here and

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<v Speaker 2>talking to my listeners and enjoying engaging in conversations during

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<v Speaker 2>the fifty five KC Morning Show, but every once in

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<v Speaker 2>a while I do need a little time off. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm taking what I'm calling a mental health vacation next week,

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna sleep in, and I'm gonna do my best to

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<v Speaker 2>try to ignore the problems of the world. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>just been I guess maybe a little too long since

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<v Speaker 2>I took a break. So that's how I'm feeling. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that Dan Carroll will cover the situation quite well.

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<v Speaker 2>Between Monday and Thursday, and then Kevin Gordon's going to

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<v Speaker 2>handle matters on Friday, so you can enjoy them and take.

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<v Speaker 1>A break from me. Maybe you'll be happier about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe there's something you want to talk about. I was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to have an author on at this segment, but

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<v Speaker 2>sadly not answering the phone. I know that always frustrates

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<v Speaker 2>the hell out of Joe's Treker. Sean McMahon, who's covering

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<v Speaker 2>for Joe'streker this week, he taking it and stride not

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<v Speaker 2>taking it personally. But then again, he didn't set the

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<v Speaker 2>guest up Joe is. That's why he always takes it personally.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, well can take phone calls. Maybe this a

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<v Speaker 2>particular topic you want to talk about. I did bring

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<v Speaker 2>it up earlier. I was just really laughing at the

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<v Speaker 2>situation with the Bengals in Hamilton County now going to

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<v Speaker 2>Columbus and asking for three hundred and fifty million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>for pay Corse Dum upgrades which are going to total

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<v Speaker 2>eight hundred and thirty million dollars. And I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>mind numbing, isn't it. But and I've been given props

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<v Speaker 2>to the WCPO, who actually interviewed the Mike Dwine among others,

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<v Speaker 2>but Dan Monk and Paula Christian did the reporting on it.

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<v Speaker 1>So props to them.

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<v Speaker 2>That the Senate Finance Chair Jerry Serena said that nobody

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<v Speaker 2>from the Bengals are Hamilton kind of reached out to him.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the budget just got pasted the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the one that had six hundred million dollars in

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<v Speaker 2>bonds for Yes, the Cleveland Browns and they're huge, mega complex.

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<v Speaker 2>Governor Wine also said he was expressed surprise at requests.

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<v Speaker 2>He said he met with Alisha Reice last year about

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<v Speaker 2>the state he but never heard anything further or any

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<v Speaker 2>specifics regarding a proposal. So big mystery up in Columbus.

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<v Speaker 2>And apparently no lobbyist on behalf of the Bengals either.

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<v Speaker 2>Just pretty funny anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So do we have him now?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh great, Welcome to the I have Cassey Morning Show

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<v Speaker 2>author Doug Ernest and the name of the book we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about this morning, The Spirit of a True Patriot,

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<v Speaker 2>The inspiring story of retired Captain Doug Ernest, who also

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<v Speaker 2>now is a successful businessman. Doug, It's a pleasure to

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<v Speaker 2>have you on the program. Let me start by thanking

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<v Speaker 2>you for your service to our country.

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<v Speaker 15>Thank you for that wonderful pleasure and that introduction. I

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<v Speaker 15>cannot say thank you enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we'll get to the business because I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>an integral part of what you learned from. Obviously a

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<v Speaker 2>horrific situation in the military. You served in Operation Desert Storm,

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<v Speaker 2>and as you described in the book, jumping out of

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<v Speaker 2>your M one thirteen personnel carrier, it sounded a lot

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<v Speaker 2>like what the experience on the beaches in Normandy. We

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<v Speaker 2>get all this mortar rounds and gunshots and explosions all

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<v Speaker 2>around you. I mean, how old were you at the time.

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<v Speaker 15>I had just turned eighteen. I had joined the Army

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<v Speaker 15>at the age of seventeen, spent six months in training, infantry,

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<v Speaker 15>airboard school, and some other classes, and then I went

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<v Speaker 15>off to Saudi Arabia about two weeks after I finished

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<v Speaker 15>my training. Eighteen years old when that experience happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Eighteen years old, and you know, I've sort of come

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<v Speaker 2>to the realization over the years they have a cutoff

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<v Speaker 2>with enlisting in the military because guys like my age.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be sixty in September Doug and Douglas, and you

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't I have a problem with authority anyway, But jumping

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<v Speaker 2>out of an M one th thirteen personnel carry amid

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<v Speaker 2>bombs and blasts and gunfire, that scares the living crap

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<v Speaker 2>out of me right now. But as an eighteen year old,

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<v Speaker 2>what was your emotional reaction to that and the other

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<v Speaker 2>warfare and the challenges you faced during the Operation Desert Storm.

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<v Speaker 15>My emotional reaction.

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<v Speaker 4>Was really simple.

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<v Speaker 15>I had a great one reakingship with the Lord when

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<v Speaker 15>I was younger, because I was grew up in that

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<v Speaker 15>type of environment with my family, attending a Lutheran school

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<v Speaker 15>and always having a presence with the Lord. And I

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<v Speaker 15>was just communicating with him consistently throughout the day, and

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<v Speaker 15>so were my brothers that I was with. We were

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<v Speaker 15>having prayer groups together, we were having spiritual caather, We

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<v Speaker 15>were every time we could get together. We have each

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<v Speaker 15>other's hand, and to say, please, Lord, guide us, give

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<v Speaker 15>us direction, Please ask us the Lord to end this

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<v Speaker 15>conflict quickly, because not only did we not want to

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<v Speaker 15>get hurt, but we you know, as human beings and

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<v Speaker 15>loving men, we don't want.

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<v Speaker 10>To hurt other people.

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<v Speaker 15>And it was hard as a kid. I think the

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<v Speaker 15>hardest part too, was knowing that I might be inflicting

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<v Speaker 15>collateral damage on people that we were firing these weapons at.

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<v Speaker 15>And that was hard for me because I grew up

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<v Speaker 15>as a kid peaceful. Yeah, I did not want to

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<v Speaker 15>hurt people. I did not want to. I could not

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<v Speaker 15>take the pain that I knew if I had hurt someone,

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<v Speaker 15>I wasn't ready for that yet. That I had learned

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<v Speaker 15>how to train, I had done this in simulation, but

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<v Speaker 15>I wasn't ready to actually kill another person.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the general mindset of the majority of your comrades,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, we had this ridiculous notion. And I

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<v Speaker 2>feel so badly for the men and women and mostly

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<v Speaker 2>men who served in combat of Vietnam and they got

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<v Speaker 2>treated so miserably. They were called baby killers, and they

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<v Speaker 2>got a reputation with all the Hollywood movies depicting Vietnam

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<v Speaker 2>that they were just running around gleefully killing women and children.

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<v Speaker 2>I think of, you know, like, uh, the machine gunner

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<v Speaker 2>and the helicopter at.

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<v Speaker 4>All?

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<v Speaker 1>What was that movie?

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't matter, but that they relished in the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>pulling the trigger had no concern or care for collateral damage.

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<v Speaker 2>What's reality as you saw it in Operation Desert Storm.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, and it's the opposite is truber what you see

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<v Speaker 15>in these Hollywood movies when you have these cycle paths

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<v Speaker 15>that are trying to, you know, inflict damage upon their

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<v Speaker 15>human beings. Ninety nine point nine nine percent of those

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<v Speaker 15>that serve in the military in our country are always

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<v Speaker 15>number one concerned is not hurting somebody else. And if

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<v Speaker 15>you do have to inflect damage and use these ammunition

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<v Speaker 15>and these rounds to get your point across to get

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<v Speaker 15>your territory, you do a shock and all you get

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<v Speaker 15>the damage over with, you attempt to get the other

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<v Speaker 15>side to concede so that you can stop. And you know,

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<v Speaker 15>and we and that's the way we've concted been this

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<v Speaker 15>in the military. In the last two hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 15>years of our country. Has there been some outliers where

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<v Speaker 15>there was some things that maybe should happen, of course,

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<v Speaker 15>but that's that one percent of one percent of one

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<v Speaker 15>percent that happened ninety nine point nine percent of people

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<v Speaker 15>in the military. And the way that I was trained

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<v Speaker 15>and brought up in the military is you just have

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<v Speaker 15>a complete one percent on adulterated shock and all program

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<v Speaker 15>where you get to your point across and you get

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<v Speaker 15>it done swiftly and quickly so that the enemy will concede.

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<v Speaker 15>You can move on and we'll stop the damage on

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<v Speaker 15>both sides so that the war will come to and end.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're talking earlier this morning with a retired lieutenant

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<v Speaker 2>colonel about the situation with Russia and Ukraine. And we

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<v Speaker 2>just pray that they'll put end that ridiculous dispute soon

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<v Speaker 2>because the loss of life is just overwhelming. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>your your your faith in God, is I somehow have

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<v Speaker 2>a sense and having never been in combat or served

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<v Speaker 2>in the American military of a since if you have

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<v Speaker 2>a profound belief that your connection with God and that

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<v Speaker 2>you will be embraced and have this this wonderful after life,

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<v Speaker 2>having you know, served God and committed to your faith,

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<v Speaker 2>does that take the pressure off of the idea of dying?

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<v Speaker 15>It does?

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<v Speaker 4>It gives you you know?

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<v Speaker 15>And you use that a few moments ago. You use

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<v Speaker 15>that example from the movie called The Populips.

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<v Speaker 16>Now people, you know, as a kid, I watched that

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<v Speaker 16>movie and then later I was put myself on a

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<v Speaker 16>battlefield and I asked myself, what in the world have

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<v Speaker 16>I done so.

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<v Speaker 15>Yes, the people that I served with, the majority of

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<v Speaker 15>us were Christians. We had a few people that were

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<v Speaker 15>in my platoon that were Buddhists and so forth. But

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<v Speaker 15>everybody had some type of outer spiritual connection to a

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<v Speaker 15>Lord or something they believe was a Lord, or something

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<v Speaker 15>that they believe was their savior. They're guiding universal force.

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<v Speaker 15>And without me having that universe of force, I don't

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<v Speaker 15>think I could have mentally or cognitively gotten true. So

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<v Speaker 15>for me having that spiritual connection to my Lord at

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<v Speaker 15>that point in my time, not only did it resonate

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<v Speaker 15>with me and my fellow brother that I was on

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<v Speaker 15>the battlefield, that gave me that chance to be able

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<v Speaker 15>to stay connected with the Lord and that relationship with

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<v Speaker 15>my Savior. It stayed with me my whole life.

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<v Speaker 7>It's with me.

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<v Speaker 15>You know, I just said a prayer, you know, only

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<v Speaker 15>fifteen minutes ago, to make sure I speak well and

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<v Speaker 15>I do a good job to you know, to serve

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<v Speaker 15>my country and to serve my fellow sisters and brothers

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<v Speaker 15>that are serving right now, so that I can do

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<v Speaker 15>an excellent job. And I did this relationship where I

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<v Speaker 15>feel like the Lord comes through me, he guides in

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<v Speaker 15>my life at a where I'm going to go every day,

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<v Speaker 15>and it just seems like it's just a part of

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<v Speaker 15>my life. And I think you know, in our communities

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<v Speaker 15>in our country, most of our country, about seventy percent

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<v Speaker 15>of it this Christian base.

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<v Speaker 7>So we do have this.

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<v Speaker 15>Well that do embrace it, do use it. They can

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<v Speaker 15>actually have a better life, help themselves and to just

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<v Speaker 15>have a better life that's connected to our Lord.

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<v Speaker 2>So did your service in the American military, along of

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<v Speaker 2>course with your profound faith which is coming through clearly,

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01:51:48.359 --> 01:51:50.399
<v Speaker 2>did that serve you in your business world? Because I

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<v Speaker 2>understand that you have a very successful might be jealous

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<v Speaker 2>about this corvette car dealership in Dallas, Texas. See you

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01:51:57.239 --> 01:51:58.800
<v Speaker 2>sell exclusively corvettes.

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<v Speaker 15>Yes, and absolutely the name of my business is Corvette Warehouse.

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<v Speaker 15>If you can just Google search a Corvette Warehouse, you

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<v Speaker 15>can't miss it. We're the largest corvette dealer in the Southwest.

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<v Speaker 15>And the skill sets in the military absolutely on, definitely,

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<v Speaker 15>without a doubt, added to the business sense of mine,

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<v Speaker 15>my business acumen. They teach you skill sets in the

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<v Speaker 15>military like how to get things done, how to make

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<v Speaker 15>things happen, how to work with a team, just playing

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<v Speaker 15>all down to to the nitty gritty skill sets that

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<v Speaker 15>you need in life to be successful, things that you

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01:52:33.399 --> 01:52:36.000
<v Speaker 15>need to need and life to be happy, to be fulfilled,

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01:52:36.279 --> 01:52:38.159
<v Speaker 15>to be able to work hard, and then no one

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<v Speaker 15>to take the break and sit on the sideline. So

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<v Speaker 15>I learned these skill sets and I had the best

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<v Speaker 15>mentors and the best leaders anyone could ever ask for

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<v Speaker 15>in the military. When I was in the infantry, I

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01:52:48.399 --> 01:52:50.520
<v Speaker 15>had the best leaders. When I was in a staff job,

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<v Speaker 15>working at a brigade, when I was doing boring workle

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<v Speaker 15>supply and signing for millions dollars of equipment and never

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<v Speaker 15>being on the field, you know, being in a hotel

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<v Speaker 15>room if you will. I never had a bad leader.

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<v Speaker 15>I've been so fortunate. I've met so many people. I've

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<v Speaker 15>everybody in the military, the most nine to nine point

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<v Speaker 15>nine percent of them want to get ahead. They want

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<v Speaker 15>to educate themselves, they want to learn, they want to

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<v Speaker 15>be good parents, they want to be good people that

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<v Speaker 15>want to take care of themselves physically. So learning these

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<v Speaker 15>skill sets one percent gave me access to the knowledge.

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<v Speaker 15>It gave me access where to go get the knowledge

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<v Speaker 15>I need. And when I got out of the military,

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<v Speaker 15>I set my goal. You know that I was a

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<v Speaker 15>hobby that I loved playing with Corvette, that I wanted

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<v Speaker 15>to do something I love and I was passionate about.

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<v Speaker 15>And I definitely understood that these skill sets let me

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<v Speaker 15>into the direction I'm using my falling in life so

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<v Speaker 15>that I could be good at it, but also having

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<v Speaker 15>something fun I can enjoy.

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<v Speaker 5>Every day of my life.

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<v Speaker 15>And one of other things I'd like to that book

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<v Speaker 15>on the Spirit of a True Patriot, I write about

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<v Speaker 15>the skill sets you learned in the military. You know,

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<v Speaker 15>the quick heuristics, the shortcuts, theology, being on the move,

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<v Speaker 15>always doing something, to have your body in motion every day.

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<v Speaker 15>If you have your body in motion, your inersial forces

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01:54:05.199 --> 01:54:08.000
<v Speaker 15>will propel you forward. You can't be three hundred pounds

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01:54:08.039 --> 01:54:10.680
<v Speaker 15>overweight and expect to be a great business leader. You

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01:54:10.760 --> 01:54:13.199
<v Speaker 15>can't be four hundred pounds overweight and expect to be

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<v Speaker 15>a great parent, because you're going to pass those skill

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<v Speaker 15>sets off to your children. So I learned that if

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<v Speaker 15>I can one and ten percent use the skill sets

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<v Speaker 15>that I learned in the military and passes off to people,

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<v Speaker 15>that actually reinforces my skill sets and it gives me

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01:54:26.199 --> 01:54:28.960
<v Speaker 15>a sense of satisfaction to fulfillment that I've done the

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<v Speaker 15>best I can do by passing off these heuristics that

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<v Speaker 15>I learned to other people in this world.

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<v Speaker 2>So the name of the book is the spirit of

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<v Speaker 2>a true pay to the inspiring story of my guest today,

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<v Speaker 2>Retired Captain Douglas j Ernest. Who are you hoping reads

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<v Speaker 2>this book? I mean, I obviously had a target audience

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<v Speaker 2>in mind, and I presume it's maybe the entrepreneurial folks

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<v Speaker 2>out there.

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<v Speaker 1>But who else might benefit from a book? Douglas?

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<v Speaker 15>You know that's a great question, and I was when

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<v Speaker 15>I wrote this book. My intent was to direct it

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<v Speaker 15>towards people that were thinking about military service or those

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<v Speaker 15>the parents that were thinking about military story, because that's

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<v Speaker 15>where my aim was. But as I wrote the book,

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<v Speaker 15>I was told later by friends and colleagues, man, that's

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<v Speaker 15>a good book. That's a management book, that's an executive

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<v Speaker 15>leadership book. And I didn't recognize that part of it

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<v Speaker 15>until after I wrote it, because I had been living

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<v Speaker 15>this life of leadership and going to leadership school, and

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<v Speaker 15>it's just ambred character. It's a part of my life.

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<v Speaker 15>Later when I read it, I've been told, and I

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<v Speaker 15>reread the book.

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<v Speaker 12>Over and over that it is.

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<v Speaker 15>It is a management book. It is something how you

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<v Speaker 15>can not only manage a business, manage your life, manage

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<v Speaker 15>your career, but also have a better life with your physical,

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<v Speaker 15>with your spiritual, with your children, being a great parent,

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<v Speaker 15>being involved in your community. It just has just basic

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<v Speaker 15>shortcuts they teach you in the When I joined the military,

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<v Speaker 15>I was twenty five pounds overweight. After I joined the military,

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<v Speaker 15>that weight was gone and I've never put that on.

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<v Speaker 15>I'm in the best physical shape you can possibly imagine.

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<v Speaker 15>For the last thirty years of my life. I feel

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<v Speaker 15>like I'm twenty years old.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's because of this that.

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<v Speaker 15>They taught me in the military. Well, Book of a

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<v Speaker 15>True Patriot has those shortcuts in there that you can

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<v Speaker 15>use to make improvements in your life. And I believe

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<v Speaker 15>it will help anyone that will take the plunge and

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01:56:13.199 --> 01:56:15.640
<v Speaker 15>go spend the fifteen bucks to take the opportunity and

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<v Speaker 15>buy the book.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and I'm sure it sounds extremely uplifting and inspirational,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's a lot. Well, that's a lot of what

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<v Speaker 2>we need right now. Douglas Ernest, thanks again for your

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<v Speaker 2>service to our country and for the inspiring book. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>encourage my listeners to get a copy of it, which

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<v Speaker 2>will make them easy to do at fifty five KRC

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. Will add it to our blog page with

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<v Speaker 2>a link to buy a copy. Thanks again, man, it's

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<v Speaker 2>been inspiring talking with you. Man, it really has well.

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<v Speaker 12>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 15>I greatly appreciate you, and I appreciate you getting the

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<v Speaker 15>message out to those people out there that need want

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<v Speaker 15>it some more than's good stuff. So help our nation

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<v Speaker 15>it prosperous and continue this nation for another two hundred

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<v Speaker 15>and sixty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen to that, brother.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a fantastic week, you too, coming to an

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<v Speaker 2>eight twenty one I fifty five k site talk station.

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<v Speaker 2>How about twenty two to three out on rap caught

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<v Speaker 2>about eighty thirty one to fifty five carsite talk station.

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<v Speaker 2>A very happy Friday to you, really inspirational Friday on

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<v Speaker 2>the heels of the spirit of a true Patriot, which,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, author Douglas Ernest was very, very.

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<v Speaker 1>Very profound man of faith.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm happy to welcome to the fifty five carssee Morning

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<v Speaker 2>show author of All for his Glory The Near Death

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<v Speaker 2>Experience of a Modern day job, Pastor David Scarlett. Pastor

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<v Speaker 2>David is a pleasure to have you on the fifty

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<v Speaker 2>five carsee morning show today.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, thank you for having me. It's a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and my father had a dear friend of his

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<v Speaker 2>who was a I think he was a heart surgeon.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a physician of some sort who ended up

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<v Speaker 2>on the operating table and died and they brought him back.

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<v Speaker 2>But when he died, he had one of those you know,

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<v Speaker 2>post death experiences, and he was in the operating room

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<v Speaker 2>looking down on the operating table where he was lying.

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<v Speaker 2>And my recollection is he met his mom who had

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<v Speaker 2>passed prior to his passing, and had this unbelievable post

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01:58:01.119 --> 01:58:04.760
<v Speaker 2>death experience, only to be revived by the wonderful physicians

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<v Speaker 2>who were taking great care of him at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and from that point forward he didn't have a care

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<v Speaker 2>or worry in the world. My understanding is something comparable

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<v Speaker 2>that happened to you. You were a former US marine

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<v Speaker 2>and you're telecommunications executive and also founder of His Glory Ministry.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell my listeners about your story in brief, which of

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<v Speaker 2>course they're going to read about in your book.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, it's exactly very similar to what you just described.

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<v Speaker 12>I was the least likely still in the least likely

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<v Speaker 12>person on the face ear to be a pastor and

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<v Speaker 12>run a ministry that reaches twenty five million people in

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<v Speaker 12>every country of the world. But God had a different plan.

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<v Speaker 12>I rose the corporate ladder after being a marine, a

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<v Speaker 12>three director of three portram in our companies, lots of ego,

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01:58:45.800 --> 01:58:48.279
<v Speaker 12>lots of money, and the Lord had a different plan.

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<v Speaker 12>So on seven seven seven, I got a bad chili

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<v Speaker 12>dog which had botulism toxin and I ended up dying

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<v Speaker 12>three times. The first time that they put me into

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<v Speaker 12>the Cleveland clinic was Friday the thirteenth. I died that night,

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<v Speaker 12>but I didn't have an near death experience. They revived me,

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<v Speaker 12>could put me on a breathing tube, and then they

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<v Speaker 12>tried to pull the plug again. And that's when I

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<v Speaker 12>went to have it. I immediately saw the panic on

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<v Speaker 12>the doctor's look on their faces. And when you're in

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<v Speaker 12>the Cleveland clinic, I see you, and you see the

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<v Speaker 12>Cleveland Clinic doctor's panic, you know it's probably not good.

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<v Speaker 12>And the pain took There was no pain, there was

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<v Speaker 12>no anxiety. Life took me up to the saw the

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<v Speaker 12>beauty of heaven. This just unbelievable, joy, peace, love, pake

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<v Speaker 12>sures everything is more vivid than we ever see here

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<v Speaker 12>on the earth. Everything was more of The music was

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<v Speaker 12>music that I've never heard ever. He showed me these

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<v Speaker 12>beautiful mahogany pictures of my life from the time I

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<v Speaker 12>was born to the time to the age. So I

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<v Speaker 12>had to be dead, for I wasn't having probably ten

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<v Speaker 12>fifteen minutes, maybe more, but I think I was only

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<v Speaker 12>clinically dead for two or three minutes. And he showed

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<v Speaker 12>me a couple of key things in those pictures. First,

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<v Speaker 12>those pictures would never take in in my entire life.

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<v Speaker 12>Those are pictures that he took. He showed that in heaven,

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<v Speaker 12>those pictures were perfect, because Heaven is perfect. But he

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<v Speaker 12>later told me that my report card was empty. There's

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<v Speaker 12>nothing I did good for him in those pictures. So

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<v Speaker 12>he brought me back and I was just couldn't believe

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<v Speaker 12>I'd just experienced heaven. They stabilized me, and just as

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<v Speaker 12>I coming back, I said, I didn't see Jesus when

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<v Speaker 12>I was in heaven. I said, Lord, I want to

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<v Speaker 12>see Jesus. I prayed that because I couldn't talk. And

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<v Speaker 12>before I even got that prayer, right at the end

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<v Speaker 12>of my bed, was the Messiah Jesus, and he was

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<v Speaker 12>just glowing, beautiful, beautiful blue eyes and just absolutely love, peace, joy, hope,

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<v Speaker 12>and just overtook the room. So I knew exactly what

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<v Speaker 12>you said that I had no fear from that point on.

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<v Speaker 12>And then it went really bad. I had five surgeries,

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<v Speaker 12>woke up in the stomach surgery right well, they're operating

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<v Speaker 12>on me. Collapse, along, pneumonia, you name it. It happened

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<v Speaker 12>just barely hanging on. They finally got me stable to

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<v Speaker 12>pull the plug again.

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<v Speaker 4>And as soon as they did, they.

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<v Speaker 12>Had all the top doctors and there's probably thirty of

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<v Speaker 12>the top doctors at the Cleveland kind of watching this

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<v Speaker 12>time to make sure nothing would go rock. And sure enough,

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<v Speaker 12>as soon as that happened, it started cold blue, cold

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02:01:14.439 --> 02:01:18.000
<v Speaker 12>blue deeping, and I went up. I hovered above them

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<v Speaker 12>exactly the way you described in the hospital room, and

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<v Speaker 12>I saw them and they were panicking, and I said, Lord,

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<v Speaker 12>I feel fine, I feel your love, your joy. I

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<v Speaker 12>don't why are they panicking? And he said, my son,

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<v Speaker 12>I'm going to bring you back. You're going to start

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<v Speaker 12>a ministry called by my name, his Lord. You're going

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<v Speaker 12>to come out of the world and it'd be used

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<v Speaker 12>for me. And again, being a director at AT and T,

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<v Speaker 12>and I was the least likely person to come back

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<v Speaker 12>to drop everything and do that for him. And he

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<v Speaker 12>brought me back. And later there was a nurse that

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<v Speaker 12>was kind of mocking this, saying, you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 12>sure if you really experienced this. And then I overheard

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<v Speaker 12>two doctors that were in the room, and he says,

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<v Speaker 12>whatever happened in that room, we've never seen a light

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<v Speaker 12>radiate from the top of his bed of his bed before.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I hear you hear the words the peace

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<v Speaker 2>of God, which passes all human understanding, you actually did

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<v Speaker 2>experience a piece of God and do have an understanding

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<v Speaker 2>about what it is.

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<v Speaker 12>Oh yeah, it's absolutely amazing when you get that was

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<v Speaker 12>called in the Hebrew the shalal, that piece that can

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<v Speaker 12>only come from Him. You don't fear anything. You don't

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<v Speaker 12>fear death. People ask me to do you fear death?

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<v Speaker 12>Not at all. When it's time to go home, I'm

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<v Speaker 12>going home and I'm not worried about it. One bet.

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<v Speaker 12>The only thing different this time than the first time

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<v Speaker 12>is my report card's going to be full because I'm

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<v Speaker 12>going to do what he told me. To do, be

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<v Speaker 12>a servant for him and to reach souls.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, David, were you a man of faith before this happened?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously you experienced an enlightenment like few people

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<v Speaker 2>would ever understand going through this experience. But how deep

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<v Speaker 2>was your faith in your connection with with with your

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02:02:55.960 --> 02:02:59.760
<v Speaker 2>with your Christianity and your religion prior to this happening

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<v Speaker 2>to you?

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<v Speaker 5>You?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, I was raised. My mother was a prayer warrior.

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<v Speaker 12>She prayed for me many many years, twenty five years

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<v Speaker 12>until I would get to the point in my life

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02:03:09.520 --> 02:03:11.319
<v Speaker 12>that I would pick up a Bible. So I thought

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02:03:11.319 --> 02:03:13.920
<v Speaker 12>it was about me. If I was going to get there,

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02:03:13.960 --> 02:03:15.600
<v Speaker 12>it is going to be my own doing. So I

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02:03:15.680 --> 02:03:17.600
<v Speaker 12>was a nine one one Christian. I would only pray

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02:03:17.640 --> 02:03:19.039
<v Speaker 12>when I was in trouble. As soon as the Lord

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<v Speaker 12>got me out of trouble, I went.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to my worldly ways like a C and E

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02:03:23.720 --> 02:03:26.079
<v Speaker 1>Christian right Christmas in Eastern.

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<v Speaker 10>Exactly, and probably.

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<v Speaker 8>Not even that.

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<v Speaker 12>It's just you know, something that was good that I

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02:03:32.560 --> 02:03:34.439
<v Speaker 12>needed help with, And once he helped me, I was

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02:03:34.479 --> 02:03:37.560
<v Speaker 12>out the door. But I had a severe mentor a

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02:03:37.720 --> 02:03:40.800
<v Speaker 12>marital problem, and that's in the book, and that shook

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<v Speaker 12>me to my core just before this near death experience,

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<v Speaker 12>like if I wouldn't have had that, that's what triggered

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02:03:46.359 --> 02:03:48.520
<v Speaker 12>me to say, wait a minute, maybe it's not about me,

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<v Speaker 12>Maybe I need this search. And I got into the Bible,

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02:03:51.039 --> 02:03:53.000
<v Speaker 12>studied King David, and then.

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<v Speaker 10>That started my walk.

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<v Speaker 12>So I truly believe that if that wouldn't have happened,

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<v Speaker 12>I wouldn't have made it to heaven. I thought I

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<v Speaker 12>was saved, but.

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02:04:00.960 --> 02:04:01.760
<v Speaker 5>I was not saved.

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<v Speaker 2>So since you talk about it in the book, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I can ask you, perhaps was your marital issues

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<v Speaker 2>work related?

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps?

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<v Speaker 12>Yes, I was a workaholic and my wife I took

2377
02:04:12.760 --> 02:04:15.800
<v Speaker 12>over as a director for Ohio and had to move

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02:04:15.880 --> 02:04:18.520
<v Speaker 12>my wife and young step daughter, and I was just

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02:04:18.560 --> 02:04:21.560
<v Speaker 12>a workaholic and that created an affair on her part

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02:04:21.640 --> 02:04:25.159
<v Speaker 12>that went really bad. And most people would have just left.

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<v Speaker 4>But I had a choice, do I leave or do I.

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02:04:27.159 --> 02:04:29.880
<v Speaker 12>Stay and humble myself? And how am I going to

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<v Speaker 12>get out of this? Because I was always able to

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02:04:31.680 --> 02:04:35.319
<v Speaker 12>get out of things myself through the rising of the

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02:04:35.359 --> 02:04:38.039
<v Speaker 12>corporate world, and I couldn't, so I had to get

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02:04:38.039 --> 02:04:39.760
<v Speaker 12>on my knees and seek the Lord. And that's what

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02:04:39.880 --> 02:04:44.159
<v Speaker 12>started the process and again, if that wouldn't happen, I

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02:04:44.239 --> 02:04:45.560
<v Speaker 12>don't think I would have made it to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, and amazing what you've done with the ministry. And

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<v Speaker 2>if my listeners are interested in checking it out, it's

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02:04:55.920 --> 02:05:01.079
<v Speaker 2>his glory dot M the growth of that. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know clearly you have been blessed. I would

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<v Speaker 2>imagine you were blessed in business, but your life wasn't fulfilled.

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<v Speaker 2>This happened to you, Lord Almighty. You almost ate a

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<v Speaker 2>hot dog to die, and then you built this amazing,

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02:05:14.239 --> 02:05:16.760
<v Speaker 2>huge church. I'm just reminded of if there was a

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<v Speaker 2>line from the movie Pappion a Steve McQueen and he

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<v Speaker 2>was standing as a dream sequence and he's stand in

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<v Speaker 2>front of a judge who says you are guilty of

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<v Speaker 2>a wasted life.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the kind of thing when you're when you

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<v Speaker 2>when you said that you were told your report card

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<v Speaker 2>was empty? Is it some sort of Was that that

2405
02:05:36.600 --> 02:05:38.840
<v Speaker 2>the kind of realization or or is that a way

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<v Speaker 2>of summarizing how you felt reflecting on your life.

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<v Speaker 12>That's exactly right. You know, you could be the CEO

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02:05:46.960 --> 02:05:49.840
<v Speaker 12>of AT and T. You could create the iPhone. At

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<v Speaker 12>the end of the day, that doesn't impress God, and

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<v Speaker 12>it doesn't matter. It's only what we do for him

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02:05:55.000 --> 02:05:57.239
<v Speaker 12>once we accept them in our heart and become servants.

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<v Speaker 12>And that's hard for people to get up the ladder

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02:06:00.640 --> 02:06:02.600
<v Speaker 12>and to become a servant and give that all up.

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<v Speaker 12>But that's that's why Satan was thrown out of heaven.

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<v Speaker 10>Is his pride.

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<v Speaker 4>We have to get rid of pride.

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<v Speaker 12>God can't work with a pride, and once we get

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<v Speaker 12>rid of that pride, we can be used for his purpose.

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<v Speaker 4>He can do amazing.

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<v Speaker 12>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll tell you what, Pastor David Scarle has been

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02:06:16.319 --> 02:06:18.760
<v Speaker 2>a real inspirational conversation. I'll have my listeners get a

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<v Speaker 2>copy of every book. We'll put it on my blogmin

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<v Speaker 2>podcast page fifty five carosee dot com. All for his

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02:06:23.399 --> 02:06:25.720
<v Speaker 2>glory the near death experience of a modern day job.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'll tell you what. While you're you're you're

2427
02:06:28.840 --> 02:06:31.680
<v Speaker 2>you're dealing with other of the of the deadly sins,

2428
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<v Speaker 2>figure out a way to get rid of the sin

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<v Speaker 2>of envy. I think that is the root of most

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02:06:36.920 --> 02:06:42.720
<v Speaker 2>all of society's problems. Yeah, I agree, David. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>a pleasure having you on the program, So keep up.

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<v Speaker 2>The great work, and I'll encourage my listeners to get

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02:06:46.800 --> 02:06:48.560
<v Speaker 2>a copy of the book and get inspired themselves.

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<v Speaker 12>Thank you so much, and God bless you, and God

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<v Speaker 12>bless your career listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, sir. Have a wonderful weekend. A forty fifty

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<v Speaker 2>five carosee the talk station, fifty five par CD talk station.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn right, it's a wonderful world.

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02:07:07.119 --> 02:07:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Jeez, are.

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02:07:10.119 --> 02:07:14.319
<v Speaker 2>A red blue.

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02:07:18.479 --> 02:07:29.359
<v Speaker 1>See we're looking in the right place. Well, I am

2442
02:07:29.439 --> 02:07:31.479
<v Speaker 1>looking in the right place today. I always feeling frisky

2443
02:07:31.560 --> 02:07:32.399
<v Speaker 1>on a Friday, But I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Have next week off, and I'm looking forward to exhaling

2445
02:07:35.279 --> 02:07:39.119
<v Speaker 2>and decompressing and uh, purging my brain from all of

2446
02:07:39.159 --> 02:07:41.439
<v Speaker 2>the pollution that is in the news. And it's uh

2447
02:07:42.199 --> 02:07:44.000
<v Speaker 2>it's a tough road to ho to shut that off

2448
02:07:44.159 --> 02:07:46.079
<v Speaker 2>and uh, but you know what, you gotta do it

2449
02:07:46.159 --> 02:07:48.359
<v Speaker 2>every once in while, just exhale and think about what

2450
02:07:48.680 --> 02:07:52.720
<v Speaker 2>is important in the world and look for those little

2451
02:07:52.800 --> 02:07:56.359
<v Speaker 2>things the guy called like life's everyday miracles. Could be

2452
02:07:56.439 --> 02:07:59.159
<v Speaker 2>really tiny, could be something profound, but they're out there

2453
02:07:59.159 --> 02:08:01.039
<v Speaker 2>each and every day if you're thinking about it along

2454
02:08:01.119 --> 02:08:03.119
<v Speaker 2>those lines and you're not dwelling on the negative the

2455
02:08:03.159 --> 02:08:05.840
<v Speaker 2>whole time. So I'm dwelling on the positive this morning,

2456
02:08:05.880 --> 02:08:08.199
<v Speaker 2>and I'm glad my wife's back in town after her conference,

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02:08:08.600 --> 02:08:10.319
<v Speaker 2>and I am blessed to have been at that event

2458
02:08:10.399 --> 02:08:12.119
<v Speaker 2>last night. I've been mentioning it quite a few times

2459
02:08:12.159 --> 02:08:13.880
<v Speaker 2>this morning, and not to dwell on it, but I

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<v Speaker 2>want to give a shout out to the Bikers for

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<v Speaker 2>Trump who were I was joking with them, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>are you like the Hell's Angels at the Altamont concert

2463
02:08:25.600 --> 02:08:27.880
<v Speaker 2>with the Rolling Stones? And they were cracking up sick. No,

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<v Speaker 2>We're not here to beat the crap out of anybody,

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02:08:30.840 --> 02:08:32.760
<v Speaker 2>but they were helping out, and help out they did,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got to meet some really terrific guys. Bikers

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<v Speaker 2>for Trump, just a fun group of guys, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>been invited to go on a ride with them. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you to to Jeff for sending out the invitation. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me know that you guys are having a ride at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the month.

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<v Speaker 1>I said.

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<v Speaker 2>All the guys I used to ride with have moved away,

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02:08:48.800 --> 02:08:52.279
<v Speaker 2>so I don't do much of a motorcycle riding. So

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<v Speaker 2>as a consequence, now I have a bunch of guys

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<v Speaker 2>to go ride with. I don't know if I have

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<v Speaker 2>to get one of those bikers for Trump vests, but

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<v Speaker 2>they did say it was okay that I don't ride

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<v Speaker 2>a Harley. They have all kinds of bikes. They kind

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<v Speaker 2>of all look like Harley guys, and I think most

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<v Speaker 2>of them are. But a real great group of guys anyhow,

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<v Speaker 2>And again props to vv ram Ramaswami, terrific candidate and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just excited about him running for governor of the

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<v Speaker 2>state of Ohio. Also a story I started out with,

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<v Speaker 2>I did mention it also again, but I just have

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<v Speaker 2>to bring it back up because it's just it quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>and closing out the show, I hate the phrase it

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<v Speaker 2>this way. It just pisses me off. I think almost

2489
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<v Speaker 2>everything that DOGE is doing, not what they're doing, but

2490
02:09:34.760 --> 02:09:39.039
<v Speaker 2>the revelations they have given us, and it should, it

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<v Speaker 2>should literally piss off anybody who's paying tax dollars and

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<v Speaker 2>they're just revealing so much about how little the government

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02:09:47.479 --> 02:09:51.640
<v Speaker 2>gives a whit about how they manage our tax dollars

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02:09:52.119 --> 02:09:55.399
<v Speaker 2>and how simple it seems to have been for a

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<v Speaker 2>small group of people rifling through the records using computer,

2496
02:09:59.319 --> 02:10:01.399
<v Speaker 2>artificial and ellligence or however the hell they're doing it

2497
02:10:02.239 --> 02:10:04.800
<v Speaker 2>have been able to uncover things that you'd think in

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02:10:04.920 --> 02:10:08.439
<v Speaker 2>the normal order of business government would be doing and

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<v Speaker 2>would have been doing for years and years, and a

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02:10:13.399 --> 02:10:16.119
<v Speaker 2>most decent recent revelation on top of already having found,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, tens of millions of people that have been

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02:10:18.119 --> 02:10:21.600
<v Speaker 2>dead or never I mean, couldn't be alive. Possibly, they

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02:10:21.640 --> 02:10:25.239
<v Speaker 2>started rifling through the uninsured, the unemployment insurance claims, and

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<v Speaker 2>only since twenty twenty. It's not like they went back

2505
02:10:27.920 --> 02:10:30.560
<v Speaker 2>behind twenty twenty, where I'm sure they will find probably

2506
02:10:30.720 --> 02:10:34.079
<v Speaker 2>thousands and thousands of more of this type of claim

2507
02:10:37.319 --> 02:10:39.800
<v Speaker 2>but they found out that individuals who are in no way,

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02:10:39.960 --> 02:10:43.800
<v Speaker 2>shape or form possible possibly eligible for unemployment insurance getting

2509
02:10:43.840 --> 02:10:52.960
<v Speaker 2>unemployment insurance benefits children under the age of five, twenty

2510
02:10:53.119 --> 02:10:55.960
<v Speaker 2>eight thousand of them. Remember this is just between twenty

2511
02:10:56.079 --> 02:10:58.600
<v Speaker 2>twenty and I guess maybe we'll say as of yesterday.

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02:10:58.600 --> 02:11:00.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they started doing County are twenty

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02:11:01.000 --> 02:11:04.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty five, but at least since twenty twenty, say four

2514
02:11:04.079 --> 02:11:07.880
<v Speaker 2>to four years and a few months, twenty eight thousand

2515
02:11:08.039 --> 02:11:10.680
<v Speaker 2>individuals under the age of five years old collected two

2516
02:11:10.760 --> 02:11:16.399
<v Speaker 2>hundred and forty five million dollars in benefits fraud much. Now,

2517
02:11:16.439 --> 02:11:19.079
<v Speaker 2>how isn't that an automatic red flag in the system?

2518
02:11:19.159 --> 02:11:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Birth date not even legal to work at those ages?

2519
02:11:24.079 --> 02:11:26.359
<v Speaker 2>Shouldn't it just be immediately chucked out of the system.

2520
02:11:27.039 --> 02:11:29.319
<v Speaker 2>Don't you think a system that cared would have already

2521
02:11:29.319 --> 02:11:32.359
<v Speaker 2>been built to just forget or deny that type of

2522
02:11:32.439 --> 02:11:37.079
<v Speaker 2>uninsurance or unemployment insurance claim two hundred and forty five

2523
02:11:37.119 --> 02:11:40.680
<v Speaker 2>million in benefits as for those older than one hundred

2524
02:11:40.680 --> 02:11:43.239
<v Speaker 2>and fifteen, and as the reporting points out, the oldest

2525
02:11:43.279 --> 02:11:45.960
<v Speaker 2>person living in the United States is one hundred and fourteen.

2526
02:11:49.479 --> 02:11:53.720
<v Speaker 2>Twenty four thousand, five hundred individuals over the age of

2527
02:11:53.720 --> 02:11:57.640
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifteen fifty nine million dollars in benefits claimed,

2528
02:12:01.720 --> 02:12:05.840
<v Speaker 2>and then adding insult to injury because you know, you think, well,

2529
02:12:05.880 --> 02:12:10.039
<v Speaker 2>how much worse can it get? Nine thousand, seven hundred

2530
02:12:10.159 --> 02:12:15.479
<v Speaker 2>individuals who haven't even been born yet birth dates fifteen

2531
02:12:15.800 --> 02:12:19.720
<v Speaker 2>years in the future claimed sixty nine million dollars in

2532
02:12:19.800 --> 02:12:26.800
<v Speaker 2>benefit dose revealed in their words. In one case, someone

2533
02:12:26.880 --> 02:12:30.159
<v Speaker 2>with a birth date in twenty one fifty four claimed

2534
02:12:30.239 --> 02:12:31.760
<v Speaker 2>forty one thousand dollars.

2535
02:12:33.479 --> 02:12:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Fraud much.

2536
02:12:36.399 --> 02:12:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Elon must said, your tax dollars are going to pay

2537
02:12:38.680 --> 02:12:41.840
<v Speaker 2>fraudulent unemployment claims for fake people born in the future.

2538
02:12:42.119 --> 02:12:44.640
<v Speaker 2>This is so crazy that I had to read it

2539
02:12:44.760 --> 02:12:47.079
<v Speaker 2>several times before it sank in, which is really one

2540
02:12:47.079 --> 02:12:49.000
<v Speaker 2>of the reasons I focus on this this morning. So

2541
02:12:49.119 --> 02:12:54.039
<v Speaker 2>many times it's just beyond my comprehension. But there you are,

2542
02:12:54.960 --> 02:12:57.279
<v Speaker 2>and there they were outside of the Warren County Republican

2543
02:12:57.760 --> 02:13:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Lincoln Reagan dinner protesting. They even made a comment about that.

2544
02:13:02.000 --> 02:13:04.039
<v Speaker 2>It's like, why what are they doing out there at

2545
02:13:04.079 --> 02:13:06.640
<v Speaker 2>five o'clock on a Thursday evening. Don't they have anything

2546
02:13:06.680 --> 02:13:08.439
<v Speaker 2>better to do? Don't they have families, don't they have

2547
02:13:08.920 --> 02:13:11.560
<v Speaker 2>lives to live that they're standing out there holding a

2548
02:13:11.680 --> 02:13:14.920
<v Speaker 2>sign that no one can possibly read along Mason Montgomery

2549
02:13:15.000 --> 02:13:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Road as we drive along in heavy traffic. Look, we're

2550
02:13:17.880 --> 02:13:20.000
<v Speaker 2>busy trying to find the driveway. We're busy trying to

2551
02:13:20.079 --> 02:13:22.960
<v Speaker 2>navigate the traffic situation. When don't have time to stop

2552
02:13:23.000 --> 02:13:25.000
<v Speaker 2>our cars and turn our heads and look at some

2553
02:13:25.119 --> 02:13:29.079
<v Speaker 2>stupid sign criticizing Elon Musk and doge, which I presume

2554
02:13:29.199 --> 02:13:32.399
<v Speaker 2>some of the signs had for doing work and exposing

2555
02:13:32.520 --> 02:13:36.680
<v Speaker 2>this kind of fraud. And this just is a tiny

2556
02:13:36.760 --> 02:13:38.800
<v Speaker 2>sliver of all the other fraud that they've uncovered in

2557
02:13:38.840 --> 02:13:41.000
<v Speaker 2>this short period of time. Look at what Donald Trump

2558
02:13:41.000 --> 02:13:42.800
<v Speaker 2>and his administration have been able to do in this

2559
02:13:43.000 --> 02:13:49.600
<v Speaker 2>such a fraction, I mean, a few months ferreting out fraud, waste,

2560
02:13:49.640 --> 02:13:51.319
<v Speaker 2>and abuse, and you know, not done with the work.

2561
02:13:51.359 --> 02:13:53.359
<v Speaker 2>And according to Donald Trump, you know, Musk will go

2562
02:13:53.479 --> 02:13:56.479
<v Speaker 2>at some point he's statutorily limited to one hundred and

2563
02:13:56.479 --> 02:13:58.640
<v Speaker 2>thirty days or whatever. He'll move on and go back

2564
02:13:58.640 --> 02:14:01.960
<v Speaker 2>to running his businesses and being successful businessman. But the

2565
02:14:02.039 --> 02:14:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Department of Governmental Efficiency will continue and we can all

2566
02:14:05.720 --> 02:14:09.000
<v Speaker 2>be thankful for that. Yeah, this is the kind of

2567
02:14:09.079 --> 02:14:11.000
<v Speaker 2>information you just kind of have handy with you when

2568
02:14:11.000 --> 02:14:13.359
<v Speaker 2>you run into one of those people who's calling Elon

2569
02:14:13.479 --> 02:14:16.279
<v Speaker 2>Musk satan or something like that, because you know they

2570
02:14:16.319 --> 02:14:18.479
<v Speaker 2>can't defend themselves and you hand them information like this,

2571
02:14:18.600 --> 02:14:19.720
<v Speaker 2>you're like, you're against this.

2572
02:14:20.680 --> 02:14:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Do you pay taxes anyway?

2573
02:14:24.079 --> 02:14:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Tech front of with Dave Hatter, your car is exploiting

2574
02:14:26.920 --> 02:14:30.840
<v Speaker 2>how your car can apparently spy on you if you

2575
02:14:30.920 --> 02:14:32.560
<v Speaker 2>get one of those head units, it's got a camera

2576
02:14:32.640 --> 02:14:34.119
<v Speaker 2>in it that records the inside of your car.

2577
02:14:34.279 --> 02:14:36.239
<v Speaker 1>For reasons that sort of escaped me.

2578
02:14:36.359 --> 02:14:39.720
<v Speaker 2>But New York City Police Department now sending drones all

2579
02:14:39.800 --> 02:14:42.079
<v Speaker 2>over the place sort of really orwelly in reality. That

2580
02:14:42.199 --> 02:14:46.680
<v Speaker 2>and then the latest car technology driving people nutcase. That's

2581
02:14:46.720 --> 02:14:48.880
<v Speaker 2>a great conversation it always is with Dave Hatter trying

2582
02:14:48.880 --> 02:14:51.279
<v Speaker 2>to keep us out of trouble. Troy Davis this great

2583
02:14:51.479 --> 02:14:55.960
<v Speaker 2>trust and Valor program he's doing with the Mustang Rescue

2584
02:14:56.800 --> 02:14:58.880
<v Speaker 2>out in Gosh and you can get involved in that one.

2585
02:14:58.960 --> 02:15:01.800
<v Speaker 2>It's great therapy for those struggling with post traumatic stress.

2586
02:15:01.880 --> 02:15:05.960
<v Speaker 2>But it's Mustang Journey dot com. If you want to

2587
02:15:06.039 --> 02:15:08.760
<v Speaker 2>just hang out with the horses, rehabilitate them, clean up,

2588
02:15:09.399 --> 02:15:12.079
<v Speaker 2>spend some time with them, great opportunity exists and they

2589
02:15:12.079 --> 02:15:15.119
<v Speaker 2>could certainly use the help financial or just as a volunteer.

2590
02:15:15.560 --> 02:15:19.720
<v Speaker 2>And of course if you're a military veteran or first responder,

2591
02:15:20.119 --> 02:15:22.600
<v Speaker 2>you can get some great therapy working with those beautiful,

2592
02:15:22.640 --> 02:15:26.920
<v Speaker 2>beautiful horses. Daniel Davis Deep dive. Yes, the situation Russia

2593
02:15:26.920 --> 02:15:29.600
<v Speaker 2>and Ukraine getting worse for the Ukrainians, and of course

2594
02:15:30.119 --> 02:15:34.640
<v Speaker 2>European countries really can't effectively do anything about it. Captain

2595
02:15:34.680 --> 02:15:37.279
<v Speaker 2>Douglas Ernest The Spirit of a True Patriot. The inspiring

2596
02:15:37.319 --> 02:15:40.880
<v Speaker 2>story of Retired Captain Douglas Ernest and an inspirational story

2597
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<v Speaker 2>from Pastor David Scarlett all for his glory, near death

2598
02:15:44.439 --> 02:15:48.000
<v Speaker 2>experience of a modern day job. Sean McMahon, thank you

2599
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<v Speaker 2>for helping me out all week. You did a wonderful job,

2600
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<v Speaker 2>my friend. I hope you have a wonderful week next week,

2601
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<v Speaker 2>and I'll be back the following week, folks.

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02:15:56.119 --> 02:15:57.039
<v Speaker 1>Terrific weekend to you.

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