WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.080 --> 00:00:03.279 Welcome to heck Can your Leadership. I'm Chris and I'm 2 00:00:03.319 --> 00:00:04.360 Lorenzo and Lorenzo. 3 00:00:04.400 --> 00:00:06.799 On this episode, we're gonna be wrapping up and completing 4 00:00:06.839 --> 00:00:09.560 the discussion that we've had over the last several weeks 5 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:14.400 on the article from the Forbes Coaches Council on advice 6 00:00:14.439 --> 00:00:17.199 that coaches would give to their younger selves if they 7 00:00:17.239 --> 00:00:18.600 could go back in time and kind. 8 00:00:18.519 --> 00:00:19.120 Of start over. 9 00:00:19.519 --> 00:00:21.719 I think there's been a lot of really great insights 10 00:00:21.800 --> 00:00:24.000 in this list. I think a lot of great advice, 11 00:00:24.359 --> 00:00:26.640 some of which I've been pretty good at taking over 12 00:00:26.679 --> 00:00:28.320 the years, and some of which I need to kind 13 00:00:28.320 --> 00:00:30.440 of tell myself over and over again to get better 14 00:00:30.440 --> 00:00:34.039 at taking. But it's all good stuff. And I hope 15 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:37.159 you know from a listener perspective that you found some 16 00:00:37.159 --> 00:00:39.200 something in here over the last few weeks that has 17 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:41.439 led you to go, you know what, I got to 18 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:43.359 get better at that, and that it's kind of helped 19 00:00:43.399 --> 00:00:45.479 you and you're in your own leadership and coaching journey. 20 00:00:46.079 --> 00:00:48.759 On this last episode of this series, we're gonna be 21 00:00:48.799 --> 00:00:51.439 talking about the final piece of advice in this article. 22 00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:55.000 It says it doesn't matter if you are liked or right, 23 00:00:55.600 --> 00:00:57.439 and that's I think it's a little bit of a 24 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:02.240 sensationalized or clickbaity title here. It says, regardless of who 25 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:05.239 you are coaching or mentoring, or the situation, the guidance 26 00:01:05.280 --> 00:01:07.319 the older me would give to the younger me is 27 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:09.159 that it doesn't matter if you are liked or right. 28 00:01:09.599 --> 00:01:11.439 My job as a coach is to help others create 29 00:01:11.439 --> 00:01:14.319 their own insights. My brain used to trick me into 30 00:01:14.359 --> 00:01:17.040 thinking it was important to be liked by those I 31 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:19.480 coached and to be right. I found out later in 32 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:23.319 life that neither of those things mattered. Insights do. Let's 33 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:25.319 start by saying that, first of all, it doesn't mean 34 00:01:25.359 --> 00:01:27.840 that you can be a jerk to everybody. And as 35 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:29.879 long as they get better at what you're coaching them on, 36 00:01:29.920 --> 00:01:33.159 that's okay. I think that this is a you know, 37 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:35.799 you just can't. You can't place them on a hierarchy 38 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:41.040 above each other. You can't sacrifice effective coaching because your 39 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:43.680 desire in the moment is to be liked by the 40 00:01:43.680 --> 00:01:47.760 person you're coaching. That they they do, they should like you, 41 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:50.879 and if you're an effective coach, they will likely like 42 00:01:50.959 --> 00:01:54.760 you more as time goes on. Anyway, but at some 43 00:01:54.879 --> 00:01:58.079 point in time as a coach, you will have to 44 00:01:58.120 --> 00:02:01.799 make the decision to do something that may not cause 45 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:04.599 them to think the highest of you in the moment, 46 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:08.400 because what you're doing is you're you're placing the importance 47 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:12.080 on them creating their own insights and getting better at 48 00:02:12.120 --> 00:02:15.080 the thing that you were entrusted to get them better 49 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:18.159 at doing through that coaching process. So I think if 50 00:02:18.199 --> 00:02:20.840 you look at it from that, from that standpoint, I 51 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:22.439 think it's it's pretty pretty good advice. 52 00:02:22.599 --> 00:02:25.039 Yeah, as you were talking through that, I was immediately 53 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:28.280 you know, flashed back to high school basketball. 54 00:02:28.639 --> 00:02:30.680 Yeah, and drills that. 55 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:33.719 We would do, and you know, we would do full 56 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:36.080 court drills passing the ball without the ball ever touching 57 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:37.719 the ground, and it was the whole idea was like 58 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:40.319 move fast, move quick, move with intention, like throw the 59 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:42.280 past the ball where the person's going to be. And 60 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:44.479 every time that the person didn't catch the ball or 61 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:46.639 that the ball you know, kind of stumbled to the ground, 62 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:48.479 it was get on the line, go run. 63 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:50.439 Sprints and drop the ball. 64 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:53.759 Everybody everybody, right, And you know what, we didn't like 65 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:56.199 the coach that much at that point, right, we did 66 00:02:56.319 --> 00:02:59.680 not like the coach, but it was it was it 67 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:02.400 was the tension of like, if you, you know, if 68 00:03:02.439 --> 00:03:04.719 you make these mistakes, if you don't pay attention, if 69 00:03:04.719 --> 00:03:08.520 you're not fully focused on what's ahead of you, you know, 70 00:03:08.599 --> 00:03:11.039 then then there's gonna be some repercussions for that. And 71 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:14.599 so like it's kind of a those moments of a coach, 72 00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:18.080 especially in sports, is like, I'm going to continue to 73 00:03:18.360 --> 00:03:20.800 be here until you get this right. And and you know, 74 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:23.240 it's it's not a matter of like, oh, you tried, 75 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:24.199 you guys tried your best. 76 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:25.080 You know, here we are again. 77 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:27.360 We did another two hour practice and and you almost 78 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:28.560 were able to pass the ball to. 79 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:29.479 Each other effectively. 80 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:32.840 We'll try again next week, right, Like, no, there's an 81 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:36.000 expectation and there's a intensity and that type of thing 82 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:37.719 when it comes to sports coaching. And I think in 83 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:40.240 this context kind of what you were sharing and talking 84 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:42.479 about is exactly that is, like there are going to 85 00:03:42.520 --> 00:03:47.080 be times and conversations and dialogue and you know when 86 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:50.879 you're going to have to, you know, tell somebody something 87 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:54.039 that that could could could maybe hurt their feelings, could 88 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:57.400 could could maybe take us strike at their ego, could 89 00:03:57.439 --> 00:04:00.159 make them feel like, you know, that didn't feel that 90 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:01.800 great or I thought that you were telling me I 91 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:03.879 was doing good or I thought that yet. Yes, yeah, 92 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:07.560 that doesn't make these things not true. But in this moment, 93 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:10.840 I'm gonna have to share this with you, and and 94 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:12.479 you're gonna have to hear it. And it might be 95 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:16.000 the first time they've heard it. It might be, you know, 96 00:04:16.120 --> 00:04:18.000 the second or third or fourth time they've heard it 97 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:20.480 from somebody different. But I think that there's a part 98 00:04:20.480 --> 00:04:23.079 of that where it's like, if you're truly invested in 99 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:26.519 helping them make that person better, then that's the priority. 100 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:29.480 The priority is that, and that means that you're gonna 101 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:33.439 have to do both like the recognition, great job, good attempts. 102 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:36.560 You know, I'm glad that you're figuring out to the Hey, 103 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:38.439 we've talked about this three or four times now, and 104 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:42.600 it's just it's not getting better. And it's not just 105 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:45.879 about whatever that outcome thing is, but it's like the behaviors, 106 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:49.560 your approach, what we've talked about. You're not implementing these things, 107 00:04:49.639 --> 00:04:53.079 you're not actually attempting to get better. That's that's a 108 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:56.759 part of the dialogue. And to be the most effective, 109 00:04:57.639 --> 00:04:59.160 I think you've got to be that way. And I 110 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:01.920 think of like people and leaders that I've worked with, 111 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:03.680 you know, the leaders that I've worked for, those that 112 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:06.560 I've worked with me, those that you know have reported 113 00:05:06.600 --> 00:05:09.600 directly to me. Some of the best I would not 114 00:05:09.639 --> 00:05:12.519 even say some all of the best relationships with those 115 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:15.199 leaders are ones that I know that they will tell 116 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:17.920 me something or say something to me that that I 117 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:21.680 need to hear or that that is true. And and 118 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:25.560 again I don't I don't take those, as you know, 119 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:29.399 strike at my character or eliminating my entire body of 120 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:33.360 work in my career. But I appreciate those conversations because 121 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:36.639 I know that I have somebody who cares about my 122 00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:39.879 success and knows me as a person and knows my 123 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:43.040 intentions for the most part, and like is looking to try. 124 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:44.439 To help me to get better at something. No, you're 125 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:45.600 You're not wrong about that at all. 126 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:50.079 I do think that you earn that in the relationship, though, 127 00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:54.959 meaning if you start out as the person who says, 128 00:05:55.279 --> 00:05:57.759 you know, I don't care whether this person likes me 129 00:05:57.920 --> 00:06:00.920 or not, I'm just gonna be there coach, regardless of 130 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:05.680 what that looks like. You aren't necessarily helping them to 131 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:09.199 get better at what they're doing. If they haven't accepted 132 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:14.000 you as a as a as having the authority not 133 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:18.079 just the the the authority from a from a training 134 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:21.680 or a knowledge standpoint, but almost the moral authority to 135 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:24.160 tell them that they're doing something wrong. 136 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:25.959 And I know plenty of people who. 137 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:29.240 Who if I if the think the things that I 138 00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:33.079 would say to them today in a coaching relationship, because 139 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:36.439 I know that we have trust and and I know 140 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:39.480 that they know that my goal is to get them 141 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:42.720 better at the thing that they're doing. Those things that 142 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:45.160 I can say to them they might sting a little 143 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:48.319 bit in the moment, but they are helping them become 144 00:06:48.399 --> 00:06:51.000 better at what they're doing. If I started out the 145 00:06:51.079 --> 00:06:53.800 relationship saying those things, it never would have taken off 146 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:55.920 to begin with. And so it's a it's a little 147 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:58.439 bit of a dance. I don't think you can you 148 00:06:58.439 --> 00:07:05.199 can approach a coaching situation from day one with the 149 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:08.800 same kind of the same mo that you would do 150 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:11.759 it on day thirty or day sixty. People need to 151 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:16.639 see that you are effective before they will trust that 152 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:19.920 the good outweighs the bad. Meaning, if an effective coach 153 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:21.920 is giving me advice and it stings and it hurts 154 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:24.519 my ego, but I can look back and go, yeah, 155 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:26.040 but you know, with the last eight things they said, 156 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:26.839 we're all spot on. 157 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:29.959 Then I'm likely to go check my ego. This is 158 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:30.519 probably right. 159 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:32.759 If I have none of that history and it's just 160 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:35.279 the very first thing they've ever said to me, there's 161 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:37.160 that part of me inside that wants to go, who 162 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:39.480 are you to tell me this? Right? And I think 163 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:41.480 that if you were an effective coach, you have to 164 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:43.480 look at all of it in the bigger picture, and 165 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:46.720 sometimes it means in a coaching relationship you start out 166 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:49.519 slow from a standpoint of we have to build trust. 167 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:52.480 We have to build a relationship so that I can 168 00:07:52.639 --> 00:07:54.360 say to you the things that need to be said 169 00:07:54.839 --> 00:07:57.360 without you know you deciding you know what, I don't 170 00:07:57.399 --> 00:07:58.480 want you as a coach anymore. 171 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:00.680 I'm going to get somebody else, because. 172 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:03.399 I think it's human nature to do that unless you 173 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:07.680 are just really unless you have really no ego at all, 174 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:10.399 like if you if you doesn't matter, and maybe that's 175 00:08:10.439 --> 00:08:12.120 the case if you're just starting out. If you're just 176 00:08:12.160 --> 00:08:14.920 starting out and you're not expected to know anything, then 177 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:17.160 then that's fine. But if you're further along in your 178 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:20.319 career and you have experience and you feel like I 179 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:22.399 know some stuff. I've been around, I know some stuff. 180 00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:25.639 Then someone coming in and coaching. The relationship has to 181 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:29.399 be built first. But once that relationship is built, I 182 00:08:29.399 --> 00:08:33.519 think this advice is spot on that the that helping 183 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:37.399 a person create their own insights and get better is 184 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:40.679 what's more important than you know, having them like you 185 00:08:40.799 --> 00:08:43.639 every moment or in the moment. And I think that 186 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:47.080 that coaches who you know, kind of sacrifice those insights 187 00:08:47.279 --> 00:08:49.759 from the standpoint if I want to be liked, you know, 188 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:51.519 that's I mean, it's like you see it. 189 00:08:51.559 --> 00:08:52.440 You see it in politics. 190 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:55.200 I mean, there's no shortage of politicians out there who 191 00:08:55.679 --> 00:08:58.480 you know, they they depending on what group they're talking to, 192 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:01.840 they say different things or they you know that you 193 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:04.399 can't really tell if they actually have any beliefs because 194 00:09:04.399 --> 00:09:07.519 they just, you know, tend to want to regurgitate what 195 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:09.639 they think the people want to hear in the moment. 196 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:11.960 That's the exact same thing they're they're trying to be. 197 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:14.720 They're trying to be liked as opposed to you know, 198 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:17.080 kind of standing on something and saying I think I'm 199 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:21.200 right here, and so yeah, I think if you're helping 200 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:24.360 a person get better. Then it doesn't mean you can 201 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:27.000 be a jerk as long as you help them get better. 202 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:30.519 But it does mean that that at some point in 203 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.519 time you're going to have to decide that helping them 204 00:09:33.559 --> 00:09:36.360 get better or or what's better for the long term 205 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:40.240 has to outweigh just their feelings about you in the moment. 206 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:40.519 Yeah. 207 00:09:40.600 --> 00:09:42.360 No, I think it's a great call. And it can 208 00:09:42.399 --> 00:09:46.639 be really easy again to want to feel like every 209 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:48.960 conversation that you have with someone that you are coaching, 210 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:51.320 right in this context of like how to be a 211 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:55.919 better coach, it's that that ability to know that sometimes 212 00:09:55.919 --> 00:09:58.600 they're not going to feel great about you as a 213 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:01.360 person maybe or in the moments the direction or the 214 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:04.519 feedback or whatever you have given them. But it's such 215 00:10:04.559 --> 00:10:06.879 an important thing, you know. And I know this is 216 00:10:06.879 --> 00:10:09.519 the last of all of the seventeen that we went over, 217 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:11.320 so I wanted to ask you kind of as we 218 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:14.559 wrap this up, are there any that really really stuck 219 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:17.679 out to you as like the big major ones. You know, 220 00:10:17.720 --> 00:10:20.039 we talked about all of them. There are definitely some 221 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:22.159 for me, you know, I will share with you. I 222 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:24.120 think the first one we talked about was listening as 223 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:28.559 a superpower. That's such an important, important, important piece of 224 00:10:28.600 --> 00:10:32.480 like really listening to to hear and to comprehend and 225 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:36.000 to consider before listening to respond. I think as something 226 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:39.120 that is a major piece of being a great coach. 227 00:10:40.039 --> 00:10:43.480 I think, you know, failure is an attempt in learning, 228 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:46.320 you know, understanding that you're not going to always get 229 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:50.000 it right, that that that you're going to take some risks, 230 00:10:50.080 --> 00:10:52.840 you know, try some different things, and so long as 231 00:10:52.879 --> 00:10:55.120 you're moving forward and learning from them, and that's a great, 232 00:10:55.840 --> 00:10:57.759 you know thing, and like it might not feel good 233 00:10:57.799 --> 00:11:00.320 in the moment, but it's absolutely necessary for your own 234 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:05.360 kind of progress and growth. I think asking questions is powerful. Again, 235 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:08.279 that listening and asking questions, asking the right questions and 236 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:12.279 asking them in a way that's genuine curiosity. But helping 237 00:11:12.360 --> 00:11:14.320 others to kind of connect the dots for themselves I 238 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:17.080 think is big. And then finally build and nurture in 239 00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:19.159 your network. That one for me as well, I think 240 00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:24.559 that's such an important piece of you know, creating opportunities 241 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:26.919 and spaces for you to learn as a person, for 242 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:30.440 you to learn as a coach, and again not just 243 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:34.080 having a network, but actually like nurturing your network and 244 00:11:34.600 --> 00:11:39.159 real dialogue, real conversation, allowing there to be convers allowing 245 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:41.120 there to be questions and conversations about what are the 246 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:42.480 things that are going well for you, what are the 247 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:44.720 things that you're struggling with, and how can those of 248 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:46.639 your network help you out? So, like, those are kind 249 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:49.279 of my top hits of the seventeen How about you? 250 00:11:49.399 --> 00:11:51.679 Yeah, So I have three, and one of them is 251 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:53.919 build nurture network. I think of my top three, that's 252 00:11:54.039 --> 00:11:58.080 that's one of them. I can't stress how important that is, 253 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:02.720 Like I, network is everything, your people, your circle of people, 254 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:05.559 the people who you can rely on and who can 255 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:08.679 rely on you when times are tough and when times 256 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:12.360 are easy and you just need some advice. That cannot 257 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:15.159 be overstated enough. The other two that I really like 258 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:18.039 a lot are number eight and number ten. Number eight 259 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:23.759 is follow your passions. I think it's really difficult to 260 00:12:23.799 --> 00:12:27.559 be great at something that you don't care about. I 261 00:12:27.559 --> 00:12:29.360 think you can be good at something you don't care about. 262 00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:30.559 I know plenty of people who are good at a 263 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:32.120 lot of things that they don't care about, and they 264 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:35.360 and they and they almost wish they weren't because it 265 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:38.519 gets them painted into a corner. Sometimes where they're doing 266 00:12:38.559 --> 00:12:40.919 things they don't want to do because they're good at them, 267 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:42.919 but they're not going to be great at them. And 268 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:46.559 I think this idea of following your passion and you know, 269 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:50.240 trying to fill your life with the things that you 270 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:53.279 care the most about, I think that can drive a 271 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:55.919 lot of success in a lot of areas because you 272 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:57.759 I mean, I just look at it from a standpoint 273 00:12:57.759 --> 00:13:03.679 of like my two my two older kids, they they're 274 00:13:03.799 --> 00:13:05.960 very different people in terms of what matters to them 275 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:08.840 and when it comes to school, and so for for 276 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:12.480 one of them, you know, one subject might be just 277 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:14.720 like it's really interesting to them, and so they do 278 00:13:14.799 --> 00:13:17.480 really well in it, and for the other person that 279 00:13:17.639 --> 00:13:19.759 same subject, they don't care about it all and so 280 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:21.320 they have to really study hard. They have to really 281 00:13:21.320 --> 00:13:23.000 struggle and study hard in order to do well on 282 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:25.600 that subject. And it's and and the reverse is true 283 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:28.720 for another subject. And so you know, just the idea 284 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:31.799 that you that you like something, that that you're passionate 285 00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:33.679 about it, that it kind of ticks off that box. 286 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:36.879 I think it means that the the reading that you 287 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:41.000 do and the the the curiosity that you have about 288 00:13:41.039 --> 00:13:44.759 it is naturally there. If you like something, you're passionate 289 00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:47.159 about it, and I think that that can that can 290 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:50.159 really drive success in that in that area. Uh. And 291 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:53.879 then number ten is cherishing resilience over success. I think 292 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:55.639 I think this is great advice, not just for coaches 293 00:13:55.679 --> 00:14:00.720 but for people in general. This this idea of success 294 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:04.799 being what you're looking for sure on the long term. 295 00:14:04.840 --> 00:14:07.639 But the people who are not resilient, they might have 296 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:09.120 a lot of talent and they might get a lot 297 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:10.639 of success over and over and over. 298 00:14:10.519 --> 00:14:11.600 Again from the very beginning. 299 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:15.120 But if they if they're not resilient people, they will 300 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:19.279 be derailed by their first failure. And and if you 301 00:14:19.600 --> 00:14:22.279 if you bring up people and you coach people to 302 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:27.600 be resilient, they can overcome an unmeasurable amount of failures 303 00:14:27.639 --> 00:14:30.360 on their way to success. Because if you're trying to 304 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:33.279 get good at something and you're starting out at the bottom, 305 00:14:33.399 --> 00:14:35.399 there's going to be a lot of failures. There's going 306 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:37.159 to be a lot of you know, big and small 307 00:14:37.159 --> 00:14:40.480 failures on the way to success, and you have to 308 00:14:40.480 --> 00:14:42.159 have that resilience in order to get you there. I 309 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:46.759 think it's something that everybody can struggle with on some level, 310 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:50.159 some people more than others. But you know, it's it's 311 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:52.360 what I what I try to instill my own kids 312 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:55.720 is resilience, and it's when I'm when I'm coaching or 313 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:58.799 mentoring somebody, I try I try to instill that in 314 00:14:58.799 --> 00:15:01.159 them as well. Is having that resilience. And don't don't 315 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:03.960 worry about the success at first. Worry about making sure 316 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:05.759 that you pick yourself back up when it doesn't go 317 00:15:06.039 --> 00:15:08.799 the right way, and then eventually you will get to 318 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:11.639 success because you have the stamina to get there. 319 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:14.039 So I think those are those are my three favorites. 320 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:16.120 Absolutely, And with that it brings us to this episodes 321 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:18.440 one Minute Hack. But first a few words from our sponsors. 322 00:15:19.399 --> 00:15:21.080 All right, for this episode one minute Hackers, I want 323 00:15:21.120 --> 00:15:22.960 you to do. We've been posting the link to this 324 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:27.679 article in every episode of this series that we've done. 325 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:30.000 But open up the link in the podcast, read through 326 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:32.200 the article. It's not a long read, maybe three or 327 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:36.440 four minutes, and pick the two or three items that 328 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:40.360 resonate with you the most and write them down, actually 329 00:15:40.399 --> 00:15:42.639 manually write them down. Don't type them, don't copy and 330 00:15:42.639 --> 00:15:46.039 paste them, write down the actual advice itself, and then 331 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:48.360 write down the things that you think you need to 332 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:51.360 do in order to get better at these particular things. 333 00:15:51.879 --> 00:15:53.960 The ones that resonate with you aren't necessarily the ones 334 00:15:53.960 --> 00:15:56.200 you're good at or the ones you're terrible at. They're 335 00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:58.840 the ones that when you when you read them, you 336 00:15:58.879 --> 00:16:02.039 think yourself, Yeah, that's important, that that thing right there, 337 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:04.919 that's important. So for some reason it sticks with you, 338 00:16:05.159 --> 00:16:07.720 and and and you know how important it is. So 339 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:10.279 start with those things because it's it's all good advice. 340 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:13.120 But the ones that you are likely to follow and 341 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:15.080 get better at are the ones where there's that kind 342 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:19.519 of inherent starting off point of you can tell it's important, 343 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:21.159 and you know it's important kind of in the in 344 00:16:21.799 --> 00:16:25.720 your soul, and so you you kind of you you'd haven't, 345 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:29.000 you'd have less of a problem taking the steps necessary 346 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:32.039 in order to follow this advice because you already inherently 347 00:16:32.159 --> 00:16:33.720 know it's it's a it's the right thing to do. 348 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:36.679 So write those things down and kind of live with them, 349 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:39.080 you know, bring them, bring them along with you, bring 350 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:41.399 them to meetings that you have to to one on 351 00:16:41.480 --> 00:16:44.120 ones that you have when you're coaching somebody, and and 352 00:16:44.320 --> 00:16:46.720 try to follow that advice in the moment as you're 353 00:16:46.759 --> 00:16:48.399 coaching others or as you're being coached. 354 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:50.600 Yeah, I think it's a great woman hack. And again 355 00:16:50.679 --> 00:16:56.000 it's like these types of articles and uh, just gaining 356 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:59.440 perspective from other leaders that have done this level of 357 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:02.039 work I think is super helpful as we've had a 358 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:04.319 lot of conversations about these topics, and I think that 359 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:07.920 from a leadership standpoint, taking the time to really dig 360 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:11.160 in self, reflect, write it down, consider you know, what 361 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:14.039 are the things that you're going to take away from 362 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:17.640 other people and other leaders who have some lived experience 363 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:19.680 here and are saying, hey, here, here are the things 364 00:17:19.680 --> 00:17:21.279 that I would tell you that I would tell myself 365 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:24.119 to like help me move faster, move more effectively, more 366 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:26.359 efficiently in the work that I'm doing. And you know, 367 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:30.000 we always love to pay it forward and highlight other 368 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:34.359 leaders and other articles and other shows around content that 369 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:36.559 can be helpful in helping you be the best leader 370 00:17:36.599 --> 00:17:38.839 that you can be. So yeah, I think it's a 371 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:42.640 great hack, and we'll continue to look for opportunities to 372 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:45.279 discuss things like this, and you know, look for different 373 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:47.640 series that we can kind of dig deeper into to 374 00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:49.160 give you our perspective on some of these. 375 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:51.599 Topics, right for sure, And again we said at the 376 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:55.200 very beginning of the series, but being an effective coach 377 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:59.599 is becoming so much larger a part of what it 378 00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:02.640 means to be an effective leader than it ever has before. 379 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:07.279 A lot goes into being an effective leader, but coaching 380 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:11.119 effectively getting people to make small. 381 00:18:10.920 --> 00:18:14.079 Changes in the way they do things that. 382 00:18:14.079 --> 00:18:17.480 Lead to broader and bigger outcomes in a way that 383 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:23.279 puts your own ego aside and puts places a higher 384 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:27.440 value on whatever those outcomes are from that person and 385 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:30.759 how they get better. The people who can do that well, 386 00:18:31.319 --> 00:18:35.160 I think that it becomes it's a pretty big forgiver 387 00:18:35.359 --> 00:18:39.039 of other leadership shortcomings. If you are an effective coach, 388 00:18:39.559 --> 00:18:41.839 and I mean really effective in terms of getting people 389 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:44.000 to get better at the things they need to get 390 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:45.319 better at. 391 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:48.319 You are well on your way to being. 392 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:51.079 A very effective leader as a as a whole. 393 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:53.440 So start with these things. 394 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:56.920 If you are interested in pursuing a career in leadership, 395 00:18:57.000 --> 00:18:58.480 or if you already are a leader and you're trying 396 00:18:58.480 --> 00:19:01.480 to get better, start with these things because they will 397 00:19:01.920 --> 00:19:04.480 they will help you in other areas of leadership as well, 398 00:19:05.279 --> 00:19:08.440 and they will they will start setting the precedent from 399 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:10.880 a lot of a lot of people that they will 400 00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:13.839 have the opinion of you as someone who is an 401 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:18.880