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your support. All right, so I want to be very
clear about what's happening in Charlotte. We have no idea,
we don't know, We do not know what's happening, but
we do know that we don't need it and we
don't want it. Whatever it is, it's about to happen
in some form or fashion, some location or something. We
don't know, but we're very upset about it and we
don't want it. We don't need it whatever.
Speaker 2: It is, which we don't know. So there you go.
Speaker 1: See I bring clarity to these types of situations. No, no,
I'm not talking about crime or mass transit. No, I'm
talking about the customs and border patrol. Eh I thought
I saw them outside the window. No, no, no, not CBP.
All of this started about two days ago. I was
going to get to this yesterday, but I'm glad I
didn't because we have an update from this morning where
we still don't know anything, but we are very mad
about it. That's the message from local elected leadership. They
did a press conference which with a bunch of leftist
at activist groups outside of the government center, where they
once again talked about how they don't know what's going on,
and they although they want everybody to know that, they're
not happy about what's going on which they don't know about.
So it started, let's see. On the twelfth of November,
News Nation reported the man leading immigration enforcement in Chicago
will leave the Windy City on Wednesday. Sources confirmed to
News Nation he will take members of his team to Charlotte,
North Carolina, and then New Orleans.
Speaker 2: That is an outrage.
Speaker 1: Why does New Orleans just get to be New Orleans
not New Orleans Louisiana. What about all the marketing, all
of the effort to make Charlotte a world class city
where you don't I don't need to say North Carolina
after Charlotte.
Speaker 2: How come we are not as good as New Orleans?
Speaker 3: Come on.
Speaker 2: AnyWho.
Speaker 1: Border Patrol Chief Gregory Bovino has led operations in Los
Angeles and Chicago this year. His team is currently in
the Windy City, but is slated to leave soon.
Speaker 2: Sources confirmed.
Speaker 1: It was unclear when Bovino will begin work in Charlotte,
but sources said it will be a brief stint before
a longer mission in New Orleans. All right, so let
me write that down. They say it's going to be brief. Okay,
However brief it is is too long. This is too long.
You're not allowed here. Federal government or something. We don't
want you here. They're making us afraid. That was the message,
by the way, that's been the message this whole time,
is you're making us feel afraid. Even after Bavino leaves Chicago,
immigration and Customs enforcement officers and other Border Patrol teams
will remain in that city. Bovino said in a sworn
deposition that he oversees more than two hundred Border Patrol
agents and who were assigned to the Chicago area in
early September. Since then, DHS officials have reported more than
three thousand arrests as part of the federal presence, which
has been called operation Midway Blitz. So three thousand arrests
by Customs and Border patrol. And if you listen to
our local democrats and media, but I repeat myself, they
are all American citizens.
Speaker 2: Like that's the.
Speaker 1: Like, that's the message that keeps coming through is that
border patrol is out there rounding up American citizens and
throwing them into gulags.
Speaker 2: It's just absurd.
Speaker 1: Three thousand arrests in in just Chicago. Mayor vy Lyles,
who actually responded in a pretty timely fashion to this
news for some reason, I mean, the murder.
Speaker 2: Of Arena Zarutzka not so much.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to this boom statement went out,
I am aware of immigration enforcement activity that may be
coming to Charlotte.
Speaker 2: Spoiler alert, it's already here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ICE is already conducting operations right here in Charlotte.
Speaker 2: Did you know that? You should know that.
Speaker 1: I mean, remember they chased a guy through a pond
in uptown at Marshall Park there.
Speaker 2: It's not a very smart move.
Speaker 1: By the way, if you're trying to run from you know,
five or six law enforcement officials who have radios, probably
not a great idea to jump into a two and
a half foot pond, because it's been my experience that
when you try to run through water, it's much more difficult,
slows you down and then they can easily surround you
and at some point you got to get out of
the pond, you know, which is what happened, and then
they took him into custody in deported him. It is
important that we keep to the facts that we know,
as there are many rumors in the community that, as
far as we know, are not verified, and we do
not want to cause additional alarm in an uncertain environment.
First and foremost, every person who lives, works, studies, or
visits our city deserves to feel safe, respected and protected
under the law. Really, because I know a lot of
people that do not feel safe, respected and protected under
the law, you know, particularly when our catch and release
criminal justice system just keeps the revolving door going and
allowing people to keep walking out of the jail without charges,
walking out of the jail with an ankle monitor that
gets cut off but that doesn't really carry any ramifications,
or they walk out with no bail, or they get arrested.
Speaker 2: Twenty thirty, forty.
Speaker 1: Fifty, or in the case of that fifteen year old
car thief over one hundred and ten times, which is
why I have come out in favor of the one
hundred strike law. If you get arrested one hundred strikes
one hundred times, that's one hundred strikes on your record.
I think at that point you should probably get like
a strongly worded letter put in your permanent record. I
know it's tough, but I think it's fair. Charlotte is
committed to following the law and to protecting the rights
of all people who call our city home. Our police
department continues to focus on keeping our neighborhood safe and
maintaining public trust.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Part of the public trust, though, is not turning a
blind eye to people who have broken the law by
entering the country. This is the This is the way
that the left shapes this entire debate, because if you
control the language, you control the debate. And this is
why they have conflated legal with illegal immigration. You never heard.
I watched the hour long press conference. I have audio
from it. We're gonna go over some of the well,
actually we're gonna go over a lot of it. I'm
gonna let you hear what these people are saying. You
will not hear the word illegal alien at you'll hear
people without the proper documentation right. They have to use
these these you know, highly constructed euphemisms in order to
conflate people who did it the right way legal versus
people who did not. And they put them all together
and then they tug on the heartstrings of any legal
alien or legal resident, legal citizen gets caught up in something.
They focus all their attention on that one case and
they want you to ignore all of the In the
case of Chicago, three thousand illegal aliens that were arrested.
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the text line, John says, are you surprised, Pete? Anytime
anybody mentions ice in the South, people freak out. That's true,
that is true. Yes, I had not considered that. Let
me see, I'm trying to find the next text here.
This is from Oh yeah, Charlotte, USA. That's yeah, Like,
what about the whole Charlotte, USA. We're still getting mentioned Charlotte,
North Carolina from seven oh four number. My wife was
eating lunch yesterday and a co worker was talking to
her parents in Spanish, and my wife can understand Spanish,
and this woman was telling her parents to hide out,
not could identify where they are. Just yeah, like, so
that's what's that's what's occurring right now, and that's why
you're having all of these Democrat leaders in Charlotte and
Mecklemburg and State.
Speaker 2: They're all, you know, I feel your pain. I know
you're a suffering anxiety. This is so scary.
Speaker 1: That's why they're doing all of this, and in doing so,
they are erecting the permission structure for leftists to take
to the streets and behave in the way that we
are seeing in these other locations, notably at the Broadview
Facility in Chicago, where this morning they were assaulting border
patrol and local police who were telling them to get
out of the street. And the mob doesn't believe that
these rules apply to them, and so they're not willing
to move. I'm exercising my First Amendment free speech rights
to stand in the road and block traffic and prevent
law enforcement from performing their duties. And so law enforcement's like, no,
you have to move out. And when they won't move,
now you've got two forces going up against each other
and people start getting arrested, they get thrown to the ground.
That's when you end up with the pepper balls being
shot at them and the tear gas and all of
that stuff. And that is what the revolutionaries want to see.
They want that to occur. They want babies, children, the elderly,
they want them to be harmed. They did this during
this summer of fiery but mostly peaceful protests or sorry riots.
Speaker 2: They would put like.
Speaker 1: The most sympathetic caricatures of people in the front of
the mob, so law enforcement would have to go through them.
This is why I call it the Hamas strategy. You're
using your own people as fodder for the pr campaign.
So the mayor in her statement, don't know if she
wrote this or if it's AI generated or one of
her staffers did it. Like her speeches, she says, Charlotte
is committed to following the law. Yeah, and to protecting
the rights of all people who call our city home.
Our police department, I mean, well not all laws. See,
you're not committed to fillowing all the laws, right, because
that's what CBP is doing, and that's what ICE is doing.
They're enforcing the law. And you don't like that, you
don't like this law. You would prefer all of these
vote I mean sorry residents, these illegal residents stay, she says.
I Understodh hang on, our police department continues to focus
on keeping our neighborhoods safe and maintaining public trust. We
remain dedicated to fair and lawful policing for everyone. I
understand that many in our community may feel anxiety or uncertainty.
I understand how unsettling it can be when the sense
of security you have in your daily life is shaken.
I want to assure you your concerns matter, Your safety matters,
your rights matter. Charlotte's strength lies in our and mutual respect.
We are safer together, we are stronger together. Let us
continue working toward a city where everyone feels safe, valued,
and able to contribute to our shared future, even the
people who kicked in the door and entered illegally. As
Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department has shared, CMPD does not participate
in ICE operations, nor is CMPD involved in the planning
of these federal activities. CMPD would only become involved in
situations where there are criminal behavior or criminal warrants that
fall under cmpd's jurisdiction. This is a common refrain. You're
going to hear it now from the Mecklenburg Sheriff's Office.
Sheriff Gary not my fault, McFadden. He put out a
statement as well wanting everybody to know that we have
nothing to do with this. We have no idea what's
going on. They did not tell me their plans, which,
by the way, why on earth would ICE or CBP
tell you guys what they're going to be doing. Do
you think that they trust you? Like the things you
are saying right now indicate no, they should not trust you. Right,
They are right to withhold information about their operations from
you because you would probably go and tell people, right
so they can avoid being rounded up and deported, because
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that'll last a lifetime. Mecklenburg County Sheriff Gary not my fault, McFadden,
because nothing is ever his fault. According to a pre
us release, McFadden spoke directly with Chief Johnny Jennings regarding
the matter. CMPD also has not received any formal or
informal contact information regarding any operation, planning, processing, or procedures
by the CPB. It's not the CPB, it's the cpp
anyway operating in and around the Charlotte area. Given the
current climate surrounding immigration and the potential for violence associated
with law enforcement operations at any level.
Speaker 2: Why would there be violence.
Speaker 1: I'm so confused. I've been reliably informed that all of
the leftist activists that go out and surround law enforcement,
beat on the vehicles, ram the vehicles, try to box
them in, throw stuff at cops, that they are peaceful.
These are peaceful demonstrations, so surprising. We respectfully request that
any CBP activities taking place within Mecklimburg County be communicated
to Mecklinberg County Sheriff's Office and local law enforcement in advance,
along with any relevant updates or points of context. This
will help insure the safety of all parties involved.
Speaker 2: Will it, though? Will it? I don't believe you.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't believe that the Sheriff of Mecklinburg
County wants information just so safety will be insured.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that.
Speaker 1: I suspect that he would relay that information to the
leftist activist base that he relied upon to win his elections.
Speaker 2: So that's just my suspicion. But what do I know.
Speaker 1: I'm just a little old radio host. All right, let
me jump over to the phone lines being a radio host.
Let me host a call. Here's Alex. Welcome to the program.
Speaker 5: Hello, Alex happy, how are you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm okay, what's going on?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I just want to say, with all these leftist
ringing their hands over the treatment of illegal aliens, I
wonder if they were stopped to think how various Latin
American countries deal with people who enter illegally into their countries.
I mean, they're not given freebies or no as far
as education, medical, help, shelter, whatever. I mean, this country
deals out freebies left and right. And this country doesn't
have any apologies, excuses, or agrests to make any foreign
countries back the way any illegal alien is treated. I
think it's high time that charity begins at home and
that this government starts to looking after the needs of
American citizens first.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to answer your question, No, they do not consider
any other nation's policies as any kind of a comparative.
They do not, because literally all other nations enforce immigration
law and they kick people out, don't who did not
come through legally. They remove people if you've been there
too long too, So no, they don't consider any of that, Alex,
I appreciate the call. Let me jump over and get
Robert up next.
Speaker 3: Hello, Robert, good afternoon, Pete. You are not a little
old host, You're a big time host.
Speaker 2: No, that's very sweet, Thank you, Robie.
Speaker 3: You've been doing it for a long time. Your record
speaks for yourself. I saw I saw a Charlotte City
councilman just about an hour ago on CNN being interviewed
by Wolf Blitzer and Pamela Brown and as you, as
you mentioned, Pete, just like you, I was appalled when
when Wolf and Pamela felt the need to say Charlotte,
North Carolina, not just and not just Charlotte.
Speaker 1: That's the outrageous element of this story that is completely overlooked.
Speaker 3: I feel, yes, there is only one Charlotte of any
significance in the United States, so there's no need to
say Charlotte, North Carolina. And then Wolf even brought up
our nickname of being the Queen City, and and and
you would have thought that they were talking about maybe
I don't know, maybe a fine town like like Cerone
Orville that the people across the country would not know about,
but everyone should know about Charlotte.
Speaker 1: Yes, well, and maybe this puts us on the map.
Maybe we're looking at this all wrong. Maybe if the
radical leftists descend on the Queen City and they start
behaving like they've been behaving in these other cities, and
we can get some violence all over the place, maybe
that will put us on the map.
Speaker 2: Then we will really attain.
Speaker 1: World class city status and nobody will ever be in
doubt as to what Charlotte or where Charlotte is located.
Speaker 2: Maybe we're looking at this all wrong.
Speaker 3: I think we've already attained world class status in some ways.
But this councilman, I believe his name is Malcolm Graham,
is Malcolm Graham and African American Charlotte City councilman. Yeah, Well,
he was interviewed and they had him on there for
probably i'd stay close to ten minutes. It was a
good interview, but he, of course he was bending himself
in pretzels, kind of fudging about. Well, if if as
long as these agents have a warrant and a judicial
writ and other items that would allow them to pick
up a violent criminal, then yes, I'm I guess I'm
probably for that right.
Speaker 1: Well, this is the line that they are walking all
the time, where they're trying to say that we're totally
for the arrests and deportations of the violent criminal illegal aliens.
But what they never say out loud is what they
are not in favor of. Then by that rubric, which
is we are not in favor of deporting illegal aliens
who have not committed crimes, simply being here in the
country illegally is not sufficient for deportation.
Speaker 2: That's what they don't say.
Speaker 3: Correct, And that's a bridge too far for them, and
they You're exactly right, Yes, if they were informed about
any of these ICE operations, they would tip the people
who are being pursued off. In many many cases.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they would just tell their leftist pals in these
various activist organizations. They would tell their pals, and then
the pals would spread that word and that would go
out and then people in the area where CBP would
be operating, they would flee the area.
Speaker 2: They would stay away.
Speaker 1: And they would undermine the efficacy of the operation. I
think that's pretty clear, Robert. Thanks for the call, buddy,
I appreciate.
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during the break here, Customs and Border Patrol, they have
the opportunity right now to do something epic in Charlotte
and not show up. And I'm not saying I don't
want them to show up. I'm just saying, like, now
that everybody has worked themselves into this frothy lather, sorry
who my apologies, and now that everybody's all worked up
about it, CBP should just go right to New Orleans.
You know, because they say they're going to go to
New Orleans, they're only going to be here for a
brief stint, is what the reports were.
Speaker 2: Just brief. I don't know how brief is brief.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many days or weeks or months
what they considered to be brief, I do not know.
But if they were to just like bypass Charlotte completely
and just go right into New Orleans, get a jumpstart
on that whole operation, everybody in Charlotte would be like,
we did it, we got them out, blah blah blah.
They would do all of that and then you come back.
Then you do your brief stint on the back end
after everybody's like, you know, forgotten about all this stuff,
and they're like, oh, we.
Speaker 2: Did it, we won. That's how you fight Orange Hitler.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you you push all that down to
New Orleans first, and then after New Orleans then you
come back.
Speaker 2: Another thing.
Speaker 1: CBP like they're criticized for, like they're not even doing
like ice rates, because ICE is doing ice rates. Ice
is operating already in Charlotte Mecklemburg. Okay, they're already going
around targeting different criminals, picking them up and that sort
of thing. And by the way, if you are an
illegal alien and you try to interfere with those arrests,
then you're probably gonna get picked up too. That's how
that happens. And so that's already occurring. Here's my guess.
Speaker 2: And I don't know.
Speaker 1: I have no contacts inside of Customs and Border Patrol.
I've not reached out to anybody to try to get
the low down or anything. I'm just looking at the
news reports and such. But if I had to guess,
here's my guess. Ice and maybe some local law enforcement
or state law enforcement. Maybe I don't know, but most
likely in my scenario, in my theory, that maybe ICE
has discovered something and they want more backup, They want
more boots on the ground to do a targeted operation.
Hence the brief stint, right that they're coming here for
a specific operation. And so when I hear these local
elected officials and left wing activists do their press conference
and they're talking about how customs and Border Patrol were
just out there patrolling around the streets and they're just
walking around and picking up litter and we don't need
them to pick Literally one of them said this today
at the press conference.
Speaker 2: You'll hear it. Oh, they're just picking up litter. We
could pick up our own litter, can we?
Speaker 1: Though I'm not so sure about that. Okay, I've been
in Charlotte a long time. I'm not sure that we
do know how to first off, not litter, second of all,
pick it up.
Speaker 2: So there is that, but.
Speaker 1: This idea that CBP is just going to do a
brief stint to what just walk around and just go
up and randomly, you know, question people and.
Speaker 2: Find out if they're an illegal alien or not, and
that sort of thing. Look, they very well could do that.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know, but that would seem like
a longer term operation than a brief stint.
Speaker 2: Otherwise, what's the point of that? But maybe they do.
I don't know.
Speaker 1: Again, we're all just theorizing here because CBP for some
reason won't tell us exactly what they're going to be
doing and where.
Speaker 2: How dare they?
Speaker 1: By the way, I would also like all of law
enforcement to let us know when you're going to be
doing targeted traffic enforcement putting up roadblocks and stuff, DOUI
check points.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: Also, if you're going to be doing a drug rate
or something, could you let me know about that too,
No reason, just you know, I just don't want to
have the.
Speaker 2: Community in fear. That's it.
Speaker 1: See, I am the moral one in that scenario, not you, right,
I'm the moral one by wanting the information for the
community's fear alleviation efforts. Also, if CBP is just going
to be patrolling around, just kind of walking around show
a force, how dare they if that is all they're
going to be doing.
Speaker 2: Isn't that sort of like community policing?
Speaker 1: Isn't that what people say they want cops to do
is to walk around on the beat, you know, and
talk to the people find out what's going on in
the community and all of that. So, like, it seems
like a pretty similar model. Or is there something specific
about immigration enforcement that you object to, which, look, of
course there is. This is the whole point. Democrats do
not want illegal aliens to be deported. The That is
the underlying premise to all of this. They do not
want illegal aliens deported.
Speaker 2: Period. They will deal with the criminal elements.
Speaker 1: They'll try to throw some in jail after they've offended
like seven, eight, nine hundred times whatever, like, they'll deal
with that themselves separately.
Speaker 2: It's a separate issue for them.
Speaker 1: They do not want illegal aliens to be deported for
various reasons that we have talked about in the past.
Primarily number one is it puffs up the population counts
and that allows them to control more congressional seats. That's
why they're so that's why they're so anxious about all
of this. And Democrats keep coming out about this. They
have to talk about it like this for their base
and they have to do it to preserve their congressional numbers.
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