Speaker 1: Kubbe Thompson, my guest for the evening at Cubby XO
Speaker 1: xo exactly where you think it is links to everything
Speaker 1: in the episode description. That description, Cubby, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for coming on with me tonight.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. I love being here.
Speaker 1: Let me start with the basic boring. Every show starts
Speaker 1: with this. Oh my god, it's going to bring a
Speaker 1: new answer that no one's ever heard before. How did
Speaker 1: you initially decide to get into the adult entertainment industry?
Speaker 2: Well, my start might be a little different from what
Speaker 2: you've heard, so maybe I can surprise you a little bit.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure your answer is different. My question is
Speaker 1: the most hack beginning question anyone could ever ask. So
Speaker 1: I appreciate gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 2: But yeah, my start was a little interesting. Browsers reached
Speaker 2: out to me years ago asking you if I would
Speaker 2: like to shoot for them, and I declined. I was like,
Speaker 2: you know what, no, thanks not for me. And then
Speaker 2: they reached out again a couple of years later, and
Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, let's give it a go.
Speaker 2: Why not? And yeah, So I wish I said yes
Speaker 2: the first time, but I'm happy I said yes finally.
Speaker 1: Sure, well, let me ask then, I mean, did you
Speaker 1: were you okay? Were you an accountant at a bank
Speaker 1: and browsers asked you? Or were you an online model
Speaker 1: at that point? Like why did they have a reason
Speaker 1: to reach out and ask you?
Speaker 2: Okay? So I do live streaming. I live streamed on
Speaker 2: MFC and I still stream over there occasionally, and I
Speaker 2: absolutely love it. I think it is a wonderful community
Speaker 2: and everything. And I have a lot of fun being
Speaker 2: creative coming up with fun ideas for whether it be
Speaker 2: an outfit or for like a set that I want
Speaker 2: to create, or like a theme for like the night
Speaker 2: or something. I absolutely love being creative and like testing
Speaker 2: the limits and seeing like, okay, what can I do
Speaker 2: with this like simple idea? How can I make it
Speaker 2: like a crazy fun idea instead of just like a
Speaker 2: simple idea? And I think they noticed that on my streaming.
Speaker 2: I think they noticed my dedication, my creativity, my passion
Speaker 2: for it, and so I think that's really what caught
Speaker 2: their eye where they were like, okay, so you know
Speaker 2: you look all right, but like your creativity and your
Speaker 2: passion that's what we love. And so I think that's
Speaker 2: really what caught their attention you.
Speaker 1: Know, it's nice. They probably would have done the same
Speaker 1: thing if you were six foot five, four hundred pounds
Speaker 1: because of the creativity and the passion and all of
Speaker 1: that stuff, Like they offer me all the time. They're like,
Speaker 1: please come shoot with us, You're so creative and passionate,
Speaker 1: and I just go, no, guys, I'm a monster. Actually
Speaker 1: I'm not an attactive guy. So you were camming first,
Speaker 1: then you were on MFC, and what was the entrance
Speaker 1: into that? Like then when when you did you have
Speaker 1: a vanilla job before then? Or was it like eighteen
Speaker 1: years old? Let's hop into the you know whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I did. I've had vanilla jobs. I have,
Speaker 2: but I've I'm a huge workaholic. I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 2: with you, and so any chance I can get any
Speaker 2: downtime I have, I'm like, okay, can I ask something
Speaker 2: onto my belt? Is there something else I can do?
Speaker 2: Is there something I can do more than what I'm
Speaker 2: doing now? And so yeah, I owned a couple of
Speaker 2: businesses when I was under eighteen, made decent money off
Speaker 2: of those and were able to start my life, Like
Speaker 2: I bought a house and everything before I even started
Speaker 2: this career and then I got to like a pretty
Speaker 2: like happy place, and I was like, Okay, I want
Speaker 2: something new and exciting and fun. Is something I can
Speaker 2: really just put all of my effort into. And so
Speaker 2: then I found cam And because I had a house
Speaker 2: where I had like a guest room that I can
Speaker 2: make into like a fun little cam room, now, I
Speaker 2: was like, you know what, Yeah, this sounds fun. And
Speaker 2: like I said earlier, I'm like a super creative person.
Speaker 2: I used to do cosplay for a living, and so
Speaker 2: I kind of turned that into like a bit of
Speaker 2: the Cami RealD, you know, kind of merged the two
Speaker 2: and just had some really fun with it, and I
Speaker 2: just fell in love with it. So I just went
Speaker 2: and did it full time from there.
Speaker 1: No personal details, But where does that drive to work
Speaker 1: so much come from? Because I have never found that
Speaker 1: in my life, and I am significantly older than I
Speaker 1: should be at this point. I fucking hate work, but
Speaker 1: I do like my passions. I'll stay up editing this
Speaker 1: till five in the morning and then get up and
Speaker 1: edit some more and do this and that. But my
Speaker 1: day job, I couldn't give a shit less half effort,
Speaker 1: don't really care, just kind of run through it and
Speaker 1: collect my paycheck. Bosses aren't going to like hearing that.
Speaker 1: But but what does that come from?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 1: I know what drives me to do that is personally?
Speaker 1: Is that thunder?
Speaker 2: Yeah, something just got struck by lightning.
Speaker 1: I was interviewing a lady the other day and a
Speaker 1: fucking motorcycle ripped by, and she said she didn't hear it,
Speaker 1: but I couldn't hear myself fucking saying the question.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you heard it, so I'm not for no reason.
Speaker 1: That was crazy. We don't We don't cut on the
Speaker 1: show unless you need me to cut. But uh man, sorry,
Speaker 1: I don't know that was so loud. I'm terrified that
Speaker 1: you're gonna be electricated.
Speaker 2: Now the lights off in five minutes.
Speaker 1: Well what does your drop? Where does that drive come from?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Again, I don't want to. Did you grow up broke?
Speaker 1: I have a theory that people grow up broke either
Speaker 1: go one or two ways. Their stay broke forever or
Speaker 1: they go I'm not gonna be broke forever.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh that's basically what it was. My family was
Speaker 2: pretty much split up into two and one was doing
Speaker 2: pretty okay and then the other side wasn't doing so okay,
Speaker 2: and so I got to experience what honest drive can
Speaker 2: do for you. And then what if you just want
Speaker 2: to like be okay with this, So you could just
Speaker 2: be okay with this, And yeah, I chose to really
Speaker 2: try and get myself out of that situation and really
Speaker 2: try and make a better, different life for myself. And
Speaker 2: I feel like I've done pretty okay. Honestly, I feel
Speaker 2: like I feel like we're doing okay over here.
Speaker 1: I think you're doing great. I think you're doing from
Speaker 1: the homicipt for the fucking weather outside. You haven't figured
Speaker 1: out how to change, you know, Okay. I always and
Speaker 1: I don't want to delve into personal I just always
Speaker 1: have this theory that some of the most interesting and
Speaker 1: hardest working people I speak to in this industry again,
Speaker 1: nothing about the personal stuff, but grew up maybe realizing
Speaker 1: I need to get out of this, I have to
Speaker 1: get out of whatever this is. And you did that
Speaker 1: even before getting into the adult entertainment industry. You were
Speaker 1: just like, hey, I'm not going to be fucking broke.
Speaker 2: Yeah. From a very very young age, I was obsessed
Speaker 2: with like credit score and learning about mortgages and everything.
Speaker 2: So then before I even got to that age where
Speaker 2: I needed to start worrying about that. I knew how
Speaker 2: to handle it. I knew what to do. I knew
Speaker 2: what to prepare for and do like re prep before
Speaker 2: whoever I even got to that stage than when I
Speaker 2: got there, I was like, oh, I understand it, I
Speaker 2: know it. I'm set. I know what I need to do,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to do those things. And yeah, that's
Speaker 2: what happened.
Speaker 1: So going into then again, you're already successful in all
Speaker 1: these different things. Now you want a new creative venture.
Speaker 1: How does it get to I'm going to take my
Speaker 1: clothes off now? Because it seems like a leap, Like
Speaker 1: I couldn't get to that leap. I would have to
Speaker 1: be like gun against my wife's head. You have to
Speaker 1: take your clothes off now, and I'd be like fuck,
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, how do you get there? How? Cause
Speaker 1: it it seems drastic. But you're very attractive, so it
Speaker 1: seemed like that's a logical step if you want to
Speaker 1: make a ton of money right away.
Speaker 2: You know, I've always been very confident. I've always been
Speaker 2: very a little bit of a I'm going to dress
Speaker 2: up so I can get some eyes on me rather
Speaker 2: than like cover up and just hide in the corner
Speaker 2: and just blend into everything. I've always been a little
Speaker 2: bit more of like a I'm going to stand out,
Speaker 2: and so yeah, it just came kind naturally, Honestly, I'll
Speaker 2: be brutally honest. I was always one of those people
Speaker 2: that was just like posting selfies online for like what reason.
Speaker 2: I wasn't like an influencer or anything, you know, and
Speaker 2: so it's just like, let's take these selfies a little
Speaker 2: bit further. I get a little bit more eyes on them.
Speaker 1: You know, you're my free cams?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Was that just solo? There we go, There we go,
Speaker 1: there's the thunder again? Was that there?
Speaker 2: Is?
Speaker 1: Was that solo?
Speaker 2: It was?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I did by myself. I occasionally collabed with other NFC
Speaker 2: models that were on there and stuff, but I would
Speaker 2: say ninety nine percent of the time it was just
Speaker 2: me myself and.
Speaker 1: I'm so, how about your first boy Girl shoot? Was
Speaker 1: that for browsers? Then im? And no?
Speaker 2: I shoot content for myself as well, and the first
Speaker 2: boy Girl video was actually on there. I did a
Speaker 2: campaign on my stream one month where I said, if
Speaker 2: we get like a top number for the model on
Speaker 2: the entire site for the month. I was like, if
Speaker 2: we get above this number, I'll release my first ever
Speaker 2: boy girl video, and yeah, they coleared that goal and
Speaker 2: so natural progression from there.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah that makes sense. How about your first time
Speaker 1: on set? Was that Browsers like a set set, like
Speaker 1: a you're not in control of this set?
Speaker 2: It was? It was. It was my very first mainstream
Speaker 2: video ever was for Browsers, which I have come to
Speaker 2: learn that that is a really cool thing that not
Speaker 2: a lot of people get to say, and so I'm
Speaker 2: getting much more proud of seeing that now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it did. It's it's no offense to you.
Speaker 1: You work hard on this and that, But it seems
Speaker 1: like if you were to tell anybody that would be like,
Speaker 1: what was your first car? I was a Mercedes brand new?
Speaker 1: Off the lot? It's like, oh, kubby, what was the
Speaker 1: first thing she's got? Brawsers? Oh, interesting, Well, her own
Speaker 1: content after she had built her own businesses up throughout
Speaker 1: her life, but also Brawser's interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to stroke my Ferrari off the lot.
Speaker 1: It's fine when you when you step onto that set,
Speaker 1: is there any anxiety with that? Is there any fear
Speaker 1: or are you just full confidence, is it full energy,
Speaker 1: like what's going through your head in that moment.
Speaker 2: Whenever I work with a new crew, there is always
Speaker 2: a slight anxiousness in there where it's like, oh, I
Speaker 2: wonder how they work, I wonder how they perform. I
Speaker 2: wonder how the day is gonna go. I wonder if
Speaker 2: they're nice, is they like joking around or if they're
Speaker 2: just like stone cold serious, like you know, there's always
Speaker 2: that side anxiety where it's like the unknown of how
Speaker 2: people are going to react that you've never met before.
Speaker 2: But especially once I get on set, once the cameras
Speaker 2: start rolling, or if it's a crew that I've worked
Speaker 2: with tons of like tons of times, there's no nervous
Speaker 2: is there. This is what I'm supposed to do. I
Speaker 2: feel like this is like my calling in life, And
Speaker 2: so as soon as the cameras start rolling, I'm like, yes,
Speaker 2: it's my time. Now, it's what I'm supposed to be doing,
Speaker 2: Like let's do this.
Speaker 1: You know, It's no, it's it's it is not more
Speaker 1: evident then I don't know what the fuck I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say. It is very evident that you are not
Speaker 1: just kind of a one note type person because going
Speaker 1: through your bio that was sent over by Erica, the
Speaker 1: lovely Erica. We all love Erica. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know why I said that, like a president. We
Speaker 1: all love Erica. Eric is the best. She's the greatest
Speaker 1: there's ever been.
Speaker 2: We are.
Speaker 1: But going through the bio, I'm like, Okay, what do
Speaker 1: I need to plug for sure? Here? Holy shit? How
Speaker 1: much does she have going on everywhere? Tell me about
Speaker 1: First off, very simple, and this goes back to another thing.
Speaker 1: Tell me about your Etsy shop because I pulled up
Speaker 1: your Etsy shop and first question I have for you
Speaker 1: it seems like the futured items are your calendar every year? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, they are a highlight items each year.
Speaker 1: Sure. Second question is do you have to buy them?
Speaker 1: This sounds really I have one of the hottest women
Speaker 1: in the world on with me, and I go like this,
Speaker 1: do you have to buy them in advance or they
Speaker 1: print to share?
Speaker 2: Okay, so we'll get down to the manufacturer questions. I
Speaker 2: like it.
Speaker 1: I like it. Supply chain now I want to know
Speaker 1: about supply chain.
Speaker 2: Yes, what kind of discounts to you?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: No, I yeah, the calendars are definitely the hot ticket item.
Speaker 2: I also have cub cult surets, which is what I
Speaker 2: call my fandom. They're the cub cults, and so yeah,
Speaker 2: you can rock your cub cult merch. You can hang
Speaker 2: me up on your wall. There's also other things in
Speaker 2: they're like stickers and like little resin things that I make,
Speaker 2: which is really fun. It's really I'm a painter. I
Speaker 2: like doing art, and so it's really fun to like
Speaker 2: either have a painting or like little resin things that
Speaker 2: I make or whatever and put them in there. So
Speaker 2: then it's not just like a merch item. It's like
Speaker 2: a piece of art that I actually created. And it
Speaker 2: could be like sneaky, like oh, you know when people
Speaker 2: are over, you don't have to tell them like oh,
Speaker 2: a porn star paint of that, but like when your
Speaker 2: friends are over you like a porn star hated me this,
Speaker 2: Like it's a little more fun than just like slapping
Speaker 2: my face on something being like, oh, merch, it's just me.
Speaker 2: It's like no, there's like you're like obvious merch and
Speaker 2: then like sneaky merch.
Speaker 1: My wife just got into felting. You ever fuck with felting?
Speaker 2: I have I poked my finger too many times.
Speaker 1: And I was like you know this is me, So
Speaker 1: I'm looking at seeing your resin school. We haven't really
Speaker 1: dug into resin in our household. We're an artistic household
Speaker 1: as well. And by that I mean and I make
Speaker 1: jokes into a microphone.
Speaker 2: I don't love it.
Speaker 1: I love it. Going back, one question, the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four calendar. Now here's my question. Do you have like
Speaker 1: ten boxes of those sitting around somewhere that you're like, fuck, man,
Speaker 1: these got to pick up, like did October hit? Or
Speaker 1: are you good? Like you have limited quantities left?
Speaker 2: We're okay, there's definitely limited quantities left. But I will
Speaker 2: say last year I did make a slight buck up
Speaker 2: and when I was ordering them, initially we're fine now,
Speaker 2: thank goodness, I sold them. But last year when I
Speaker 2: was ordering them, I accidentally my fingers slipped and I
Speaker 2: hit an extra button and so rather than like two hundred,
Speaker 2: I had like two thousand. You know who, not ideal,
Speaker 2: especially when they get delivered and you didn't realize until
Speaker 2: the boxes just keep showing up and you're like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, what did I do? But yeah, thankfully, thankfully,
Speaker 2: we're good. Now. There's limited quantities, so you know, got
Speaker 2: to get it.
Speaker 1: If you're on it, do you start looking at the
Speaker 1: inventory around octob and you're like, fuck, we gotta move this.
Speaker 1: Let's get this move in. Are you okay?
Speaker 2: That's just a j I honestly, I do it per month.
Speaker 2: I'll get so many each month and then I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: so this is about how many go each month, and
Speaker 2: so I'll get that many. But then if there's like
Speaker 2: if we didn't do that many that month, then yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll be like ooh, little deal going. You know, I
Speaker 2: can't a free stick over the calendar. Let's see.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I need to move on from supply
Speaker 1: chain otherwise the listeners are gonna fucking kill me. You
Speaker 1: know exactly where to find Kubby Thompson here at Cubby xoxo.
Speaker 1: So just moving aside separately OnlyFans. What kind of content
Speaker 1: do you produce for your only fans? Is it a
Speaker 1: little bit of everything? Do you have like a niche
Speaker 1: you kind of stick to?
Speaker 2: You know? I tried sticking to like certain things and
Speaker 2: have this be like my thing that I always do.
Speaker 2: But then I realized that it got a little too
Speaker 2: repetitive and a little too like, oh, they know what
Speaker 2: to expect, which can be a good thing, but I
Speaker 2: really like my creative side. Once again. I just really
Speaker 2: like having it be where like you're like, oh, she's
Speaker 2: online right now, like I have no clue what she's
Speaker 2: going to post right now. Like I could be like
Speaker 2: in full like Grinch body paint, or I could just
Speaker 2: be in like a sexy little outfit, like you know,
Speaker 2: like you never know what you're going to expect, and
Speaker 2: I kind of like that. It kind of makes it
Speaker 2: fun because like sometimes we'd be like super like sexy
Speaker 2: shows that are you know, you're there for something specific,
Speaker 2: and then there's other ones where we're being silly or
Speaker 2: we're body painting or I'm just doing chores like naked
Speaker 2: around my house. Like there's so many different things where
Speaker 2: it's like you never know what you're going to get,
Speaker 2: and that's what I like about it.
Speaker 1: Sure sure now, as I discussed with my wife, men
Speaker 1: are the problem in the world. Do you also get
Speaker 1: complaints on those things like you post cleaning around the
Speaker 1: house and some guys like do the bedroom, what do
Speaker 1: you do in I don't care about the kitchen, you know,
Speaker 1: or or guys like, oh, fucking go take a shower,
Speaker 1: don't post all this other kind like they want specific
Speaker 1: things or is everyone pretty happy? Is everyone in the
Speaker 1: cult club? No, the cub cult. The club is what
Speaker 1: I'm starting. And if you want to sign up, you
Speaker 1: just have to drink the flavor Aid. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it wasn't actually cool aid at jonestown. It was flavor
Speaker 1: aid anyway. Uh, what was my question? Oh? Do you
Speaker 1: get complaints on it though? And what does that feel
Speaker 1: like if you put your heart and soul in your
Speaker 1: creativity into something and someone posts like some guy with
Speaker 1: a you know, I don't know of some kind of
Speaker 1: anime fucking avatar comments like boring period.
Speaker 2: You know, Thankfully I don't really get any complaints. I
Speaker 2: think the cub cult is very understanding of like who
Speaker 2: I am. That I sometimes am in a silly, goofy mood.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm in a sexy mood. Other times I'm like, hey,
Speaker 2: I want to hang out with you, like let's just
Speaker 2: like and like catch up and everything, or watch a
Speaker 2: movie together. And I think they truly understand that that
Speaker 2: I'm just like me on there. I'm not putting on
Speaker 2: like a character, like I'm trying to be like this
Speaker 2: like perfect person or anything No, I'm just like it's
Speaker 2: more like girlfriend experience, Like not every day would I
Speaker 2: be just like putting on a full on production show.
Speaker 2: A lot of the times I do. But then there's
Speaker 2: other times where it's like, no, let's hang out and
Speaker 2: like cuddle and like watch a movie and like have
Speaker 2: dinner together. Like you know, there's like there's there's the
Speaker 2: whole thing. So I think they really like the girlfriend
Speaker 2: experience that I sell on there.
Speaker 1: Sure, and sometimes your girlfriend wants to just sit on
Speaker 1: the couch in sweatpants and watch Netflix. I suppose that,
Speaker 1: do you know that?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: Yeah, getting into the industry or not getting it? Have
Speaker 1: you had any this is a question I recently added
Speaker 1: to my repertoire, and maybe not. Have you had any
Speaker 1: firsts in porn? Not like in porn like you did
Speaker 1: it for the first time. Obviously you did all that,
Speaker 1: But was there anything you did in porn that you
Speaker 1: had never done in your personal life before that then
Speaker 1: you had to experience it for the first time in
Speaker 1: front of X amount of people with giant lights on you,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: I think there's like there's tons of different ways that
Speaker 2: I could answer that, because I did start in the
Speaker 2: adult industry almost as soon as I could. I would
Speaker 2: say a lot of my first have been on camera.
Speaker 2: Like the first time I've ever been with a girl
Speaker 2: was on camera. The first time I ever did a
Speaker 2: threesome was on camera. The first time I ever did
Speaker 2: like some more like kinky like bondage stuff like was
Speaker 2: ever on camera. And so like, I think there's a
Speaker 2: lot of things that people would be surprised where it
Speaker 2: was like, oh, that was your first time, because like
Speaker 2: you know, I'm just I'd get into things, I enjoy things,
Speaker 2: and so a lot of the times you can't even tell,
Speaker 2: like it was my first time ever, but a lot
Speaker 2: the times it is my first on camera.
Speaker 1: So how do you prep for any of those types
Speaker 1: of things, Like how do you prep for your first
Speaker 1: girl girl seeing? Do you like find a very feminine
Speaker 1: looking boy and kiss him a lot? Or like what
Speaker 1: is that was just a real bad joke? What do
Speaker 1: you do to prep for these types of things? Was
Speaker 1: there anything or were you just kind of like fuck it,
Speaker 1: let's run in and try this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a very experimental person. I will try anything once,
Speaker 2: whether that be sexual, food, like anything. I will try
Speaker 2: anything at least once. But I always say, you have
Speaker 2: to try it twice. The first time could be a
Speaker 2: bad restaurant, could be a bad cook that night, but
Speaker 2: if you go back, you're like, no, this is the
Speaker 2: best meal I've ever had. So you know, you always
Speaker 2: have to try things at least once, but definitely try
Speaker 2: it twice. And that's how I've kind of always been.
Speaker 2: So I'm always just like, oh, I've never tried that,
Speaker 2: Let's try it. If it's for me, then fuck yeah,
Speaker 2: it's for me after that. But if it's not for me,
Speaker 2: like they let me try with somebody else, let me
Speaker 2: see if it's a different vibe or something with somebody else,
Speaker 2: and then if it's still not for me, then it's
Speaker 2: still not for me. But you gotta try things. That's
Speaker 2: the exciting part of life.
Speaker 1: I understand the variety that your creativity takes. But let
Speaker 1: me say, let me ask this, if there was one specialty,
Speaker 1: kink or fetish that you especially enjoy. Everything else is
Speaker 1: in ninety nine? This is one hundred is there? And
Speaker 1: it just whatever it was, you started getting a bunch
Speaker 1: of requests for it on your only fans, would you
Speaker 1: be thrilled? No, that's not even a question. I don't
Speaker 1: I tried to word it in a way where it
Speaker 1: was like, don't sound stupid, and instead I believe, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't you sound like my wife and
Speaker 1: not my mother. Uh So, let me ask again, what
Speaker 1: is like a specialty? If you will that if you
Speaker 1: had to stick to just one thing you'd be happy
Speaker 1: doing that? Is it? Just do you like doing joy stuff,
Speaker 1: solo stuff, boy girl stuff? Like again, if you were
Speaker 1: only fans had to rebrand as one strictly one niche,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, what do you think it would be?
Speaker 2: Honestly, if I had to pick one, that's so hard
Speaker 2: because I like it all, but I think I would
Speaker 2: go with more of the like cosplay themed, like storytelling,
Speaker 2: uh like niche just because like I have, some of
Speaker 2: my favorite videos for me personally and for my viewers
Speaker 2: are the ones where like I make like full sets,
Speaker 2: I make full storylines, I make like costumes to go
Speaker 2: with it. Like I have ones that I'm like a
Speaker 2: devil girl and I made like a full dungeon with
Speaker 2: as salt rain candles like this whole thing. There's another
Speaker 2: Harry Potter one where I like, I rented out an
Speaker 2: entire train station just for like a ten second clip
Speaker 2: in the beginning of the video of me or at
Speaker 2: the school, you know, like there's just I love fully
Speaker 2: going out with like the cosplay and the storytelling ones
Speaker 2: where it's like, no, I'm like role playing as a character,
Speaker 2: Like I love those ones, and so I probably would
Speaker 2: pick like cosplay role play to be my thing.
Speaker 1: What is your favorite theme of cosplay that you like
Speaker 1: to dive into? Is an anime stuff? If is it
Speaker 1: Star Wars? Do you really like Willow stuff from the
Speaker 1: eighties and don't even get that reference.
Speaker 2: Listen, I am a huge Star Wars nerd. Like I
Speaker 2: posted something yesterday of me swinging lightsabers, Like I that's
Speaker 2: like a daily exercise for me at this point is
Speaker 2: lightsaber fielding. So you know, yeah, let's for sure let's
Speaker 2: go that. Oh my gosh, I did Darth Maul last
Speaker 2: made a fourth full I have to do it again
Speaker 2: this year. Like I never felt more myself was when
Speaker 2: I was Darth Maul. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this is me.
Speaker 1: Okay, but are you making in the cosplay?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, yeah I have. I have some posters where it's.
Speaker 1: Are you read all over? Yeah?
Speaker 2: These hours?
Speaker 1: Want you just be.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've done a bit of it all.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I done some Lay, I've done some Luke. I've done
Speaker 2: some Darth Vader Darth Maul like you know I've done.
Speaker 2: I've done a couple of characters.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 2: I gotta do Jaba next.
Speaker 1: I'll do jobafore you. I'm not that big, folks, by
Speaker 1: the way, I'm okay, I'm I'm all right, I'm okay,
Speaker 1: I'm all right. That's what I have to keep reaffirming
Speaker 1: to my wife every night. You know, I'm okay. I
Speaker 1: have nice eyes and good teeth. That should be enough.
Speaker 1: You also have. Now, Look, I take this very seriously
Speaker 1: because I've never had the balls to actually get on stage.
Speaker 1: I have to do it behind a microphone. You have
Speaker 1: comedian light on your Twitter bio.
Speaker 2: I do, I do?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right? Have you ever actually done like stand
Speaker 1: up stuff?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I used to have a comedy stage show when
Speaker 2: I used to do cosplay and stuff. I had a
Speaker 2: comedy stage show that I did and it was tons
Speaker 2: of fun. It was I traveled to so many states
Speaker 2: and just made people laugh, which is like my entire
Speaker 2: purpose for living is just to make as many people
Speaker 2: laugh as I can. Sure, That's why I started my
Speaker 2: YouTube because it's kind of like me being silly, goofy,
Speaker 2: like I want to make you laugh. So yeah, that
Speaker 2: stage show really like spawned so many things where I
Speaker 2: just like, I just want to make people laugh.
Speaker 1: You know, I always try and put anxiety on other people,
Speaker 1: So I apologize for that. But here's what I'll ask.
Speaker 1: Is it more anxiety inducing to stand up in front
Speaker 1: of two hundred people at a stage show or to
Speaker 1: step on a set where we're doing a you know,
Speaker 1: male male female today like something like that.
Speaker 2: Honestly, and I know people would think I'm crazy for this,
Speaker 2: but I think they're about the same, which is crazy
Speaker 2: because one you're just standing there with a microphone and
Speaker 2: the other one you have like your clothes taken off
Speaker 2: and everybody's staring at you. But like they're they're about
Speaker 2: the same. To me. You I get that like tiny
Speaker 2: bit of nervousness, like the same thing where it's like
Speaker 2: I wonder how they're gonna react, Like I wonder how
Speaker 2: they're gonna be, And then as soon as you get
Speaker 2: up there and like it starts and everything, then you're
Speaker 2: just like I'm in my element.
Speaker 1: Let's do this to be fair. Here's why it is
Speaker 1: scary because as an audience member I'm a lot more
Speaker 1: likely to heckle you if you're standing on the stage
Speaker 1: with a microphone rather than naked on a couch like
Speaker 1: the second one. I don't give a shit what you say.
Speaker 1: I'll just yep, she's right, she's got it, she says
Speaker 1: is good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If you're up there and you're like, you have airplane food,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, get this chick off the stage.
Speaker 2: You have an airplane. But okay, honestly that deserves me
Speaker 2: heckled a little.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you ever want so? Here's what I love
Speaker 1: hearing about you is you do these grand productions. It
Speaker 1: sounds like, or you at least try to when you
Speaker 1: work on and you build up these grain productions. What
Speaker 1: is the crossover to mainstream gonna be someday? Because I
Speaker 1: don't know that this world can contain you creativity. I
Speaker 1: think you can only play step daughter for so many
Speaker 1: years before you become step mother, and then you just
Speaker 1: go I'm tired of being a step something. Do you
Speaker 1: have mainstream ambitions at all?
Speaker 2: Like like mainstream mainstream, like like movies, movies, And I
Speaker 2: don't mean like oh, Cubby and Leo, like, look, sorry,
Speaker 2: Brass's was your first one here, but you may have
Speaker 2: to start a little bit smaller when it comes to Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Hollywood. But I mean, I mean, I mean, like, uh,
Speaker 1: do you have any ambitions too? I know a lot
Speaker 1: of porn stars start off doing like horror movie roles
Speaker 1: and stuff, and I think that's pretty much because they
Speaker 1: can get the tops off, right.
Speaker 2: It seems like, yeah, they just gotta stream and they're like,
Speaker 2: you your books, you got it, so you know. I
Speaker 2: feel like I feel like that's a pretty good place
Speaker 2: to start for a lot of people. Yeah, no, I would.
Speaker 2: I would love to. Honestly, I was a theater kid
Speaker 2: growing up. That's why so many of my uh, mainstream
Speaker 2: movies currently in the adult industry have long scripts or
Speaker 2: a lot of acting in them, because the directors know, like, hey,
Speaker 2: this one, this one can act a little bit. So
Speaker 2: I genuinely enjoy acting. I love like pretending to be
Speaker 2: a different character, So I would love to. But I
Speaker 2: more importantly, I think I would really like to eventually
Speaker 2: be behind the camera in the adult mainstream industry and
Speaker 2: direct I would love I have so many ideas for
Speaker 2: videos and stuff that I would love to really just
Speaker 2: get them out and do them. And I think with
Speaker 2: all like the grandeur of how I like to do
Speaker 2: things with like sets and costumes and themes, role play
Speaker 2: and everything, I think I can make some really fun stuff.
Speaker 2: So I would love to try one day.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, you have a very. And I'm not
Speaker 1: just blowing smoke here, I'm being serious. You have a very.
Speaker 1: Uh it was ironic. I used Leo in that thing,
Speaker 1: your very, Margot Robbie looked to your face. Are you
Speaker 1: told that ever?
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 1: I compliment it is. I love that great. If you
Speaker 1: hate it, Margot Robbie and you're just like, yo, fuck her,
Speaker 1: I was just like, this is okay, No, she's great.
Speaker 2: And I love that she's Harley Quinn because I have
Speaker 2: like my own little like clown persona, and you know,
Speaker 2: so I feel like we're just like par on par
Speaker 2: on that like I feel like I'm the adult industry
Speaker 2: version of her.
Speaker 1: I think that's the way I always. I love hearing
Speaker 1: what you said there too, because I make no judgments
Speaker 1: on anyone in this industry. You can go whatever path
Speaker 1: you want to do. If someone girl says to me,
Speaker 1: I want to make three million dollars and then I'm out, wonderful,
Speaker 1: good for you. I want to shoot until I'm doing
Speaker 1: granny stuff, wonderful, good for you. So rare to hear
Speaker 1: people say I want to get behind the camera and
Speaker 1: I want to work in a way that's not judged
Speaker 1: just based off of how I look or how I
Speaker 1: perform in front of.
Speaker 2: It, exactly like, I really want to show my creative side,
Speaker 2: Like while I look okay, I'll be in front of
Speaker 2: the camera, but then eventually I just want to get
Speaker 2: behind the camera. I want to write scripts. I want
Speaker 2: to show my silly, goofy side. I want to show
Speaker 2: my creative side. I just want to you know, I
Speaker 2: want to take what I do for my own content
Speaker 2: and do it for companies and make it really big
Speaker 2: and grand and amazing.
Speaker 1: Is there a chance you grow your brand big enough
Speaker 1: where you don't even think about working with the mainstreams
Speaker 1: in that way? Because you say I'd like to grow
Speaker 1: myself big enough to do this and that, But I mean,
Speaker 1: we both. I'm sure no women in this industry who
Speaker 1: the stuff they make is almost bigger than a lot
Speaker 1: of the mainstream A lot of the interviews I do
Speaker 1: with people. They say, I shoot mainstream to advertise my
Speaker 1: personal stuff. You know, you slap a big face at
Speaker 1: the top there, and someone goes, I need to see
Speaker 1: if she is an only fans at cubby xo xo.
Speaker 1: I need to see that, man, You know, that would
Speaker 1: be great.
Speaker 2: I I have started coming up with a business that
Speaker 2: I could transform into a production company one day. I'm
Speaker 2: starting to set up with the tiles, you know, for
Speaker 2: the future and everything for what I want. People always
Speaker 2: talk about how scary a ten year plan is, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I'm already on my twenty year plan.
Speaker 2: Like we're already not far in advance. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: would love to make a name for myself in this industry,
Speaker 2: make friends in this industry, and then eventually transform that
Speaker 2: into my own thing where I can have my own
Speaker 2: ideas with my own company, and then have my amazing,
Speaker 2: beautiful friends that are in the industry shooting for me.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's set a milestone right now. Today,
Speaker 1: the day we're doing this interview, I want to do
Speaker 1: a thing we call stat check. Now. Stat check is
Speaker 1: a thing where we use the Internet Adult Film Database IAFD,
Speaker 1: and it's almost like IMDb except it is nowhere near
Speaker 1: as accurate. All the numbers are wrong. I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: I'm to you, and your response is gonna be this.
Speaker 1: I just know it. You're gonna go. Those numbers are off,
Speaker 1: even though we've established at the beginning those numbers they're off.
Speaker 1: I told you so, you probably won't do it, but
Speaker 1: you might do it anyway and go. Those numbers are off.
Speaker 1: Let me run through it. So, according to IAFD dot
Speaker 1: com scenes thirty one, you've done thirty one scenes. Now,
Speaker 1: this doesn't count personal stuff, this and that. It counts
Speaker 1: so many VIDs but not it's wrong. We're just gonna
Speaker 1: check on it a year from now when you own
Speaker 1: your own studio and we're like, oh my god, remember
Speaker 1: when she only did thirty one scenes. Number of guys
Speaker 1: you've worked with twenty two, so that means you can
Speaker 1: still get into heaven. A number of girls you've worked
Speaker 1: with eight. No. Now, as far as nominations, I'm only
Speaker 1: going AVN here. I know you have other ones as well,
Speaker 1: but no AVN nominations yet. Is that correct? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So far all of these are wrong, but that's fine.
Speaker 1: She did it. She did it, folks. We knew she'd
Speaker 1: do it because we know how valuable numbers are to
Speaker 1: these adult performers. It is their livelihood, which means make
Speaker 1: sure you go sign up at cubby XO XO linked
Speaker 1: everything in the episode description, but we knew she'd do it,
Speaker 1: so no, no, no wins yet. You know it was funny.
Speaker 1: I interviewed someone the other day and she was at
Speaker 1: her computer and she goes, hold on and I hear typing,
Speaker 1: and I go, okay, what are you doing? She goes,
Speaker 1: I have a spreadsheet with everyone I've worked with, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, oh, this is great. So I
Speaker 1: go your IAFD says this many scenes. She goes one, two, three,
Speaker 1: she goes, no, that's wrong, thirty eight and I.
Speaker 2: Was like, iconic, No, I have been nominated for a
Speaker 2: v and Awards. I think there was six maybe in
Speaker 2: total that I've been nominated for. I haven't won any
Speaker 2: with av IN yet, but I have one. Oh my goodness,
Speaker 2: I have one, the Lightning Back. I have won three
Speaker 2: Expiz Awards and seven Foreign Awards as well as like
Speaker 2: thirteen Cammy Awards and everything. But yeah, no Evans yet,
Speaker 2: but we're coming for you next time we do this.
Speaker 2: I'm I'd be like, I got one.
Speaker 1: And then I know that absolutely the ALT Awards interesting
Speaker 1: because that was my first one. I first look at you,
Speaker 1: I go again, I was born way later than you, earlier,
Speaker 1: late whatever, I'm older than you. And I look at
Speaker 1: and I went, oh, this girl's alt or what we
Speaker 1: called it back in the early two thousands, we would
Speaker 1: have said, goth, that was wrong your tattoos? Are we
Speaker 1: going to grow it out to a full body? Are
Speaker 1: you happy? Wor you are? Now? Is a couple more
Speaker 1: you want to pick up?
Speaker 2: I definitely want a couple of more on I know
Speaker 2: I completely covered them. What's perfect for this conversation right now?
Speaker 2: This arm, this arm is a full sleeve. It's like
Speaker 2: fully covered. This arm has like little sticker ones here
Speaker 2: and there. I would love to get a few more
Speaker 2: sticker ones that have meaning and stuff. But I don't
Speaker 2: really think a full like body sleeve is every in
Speaker 2: my future. I have some of my legs, but you know,
Speaker 2: I like I like you to see like me a
Speaker 2: little bit still, but also some stuff that I'm into,
Speaker 2: so I'd like to keep it that way.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, the hocus pocus on the back of your thighs?
Speaker 1: What is the story behind that.
Speaker 2: I'm honestly just a huge hocus Pocus fan. It is
Speaker 2: my second favorite movie of all time. And I got
Speaker 2: it on my thighs because you know that's where the
Speaker 2: magic is.
Speaker 1: My wife and I every year we're in Jersey. Every
Speaker 1: year we drive up to Salem for Halloween. Oh we
Speaker 1: stay there for a week. We've done it for like
Speaker 1: ten years now, save for one COVID year in the middle.
Speaker 1: But it's you're coming, get out of here. Actually, actually,
Speaker 1: my wife would leave me home as long as you
Speaker 1: were driving, that would be fine. But we go every year.
Speaker 1: It's it's just the most have you ever been?
Speaker 2: I haven't one day.
Speaker 1: It's the most beautiful little just walking down just small
Speaker 1: shops everywhere. If you drink, there's a brewery, there's the
Speaker 1: best restaurants. Oh I heard those.
Speaker 2: Really good museums too. I love a good museum.
Speaker 1: See. I never want to hit the nerd ship, but yeah,
Speaker 1: there's some great musings up there.
Speaker 2: I told you when I was a kid, I had
Speaker 2: read books about mortgages. We're getting you don't think I
Speaker 2: love a good museum.
Speaker 1: We got to get back to this too, because you
Speaker 1: are very funny too. And it is not ever my
Speaker 1: It's never been the thing I see where I go
Speaker 1: hot chick and then she turns out to be really
Speaker 1: funny and you are really funny and you're hot ship
Speaker 1: and oh also she's a nerd, which normally is kind
Speaker 1: of bullshit. Normally the hot girls who do cosplay and
Speaker 1: stuff are like, hey, I watched an episode of Star
Speaker 1: Wars episode seven. Once.
Speaker 2: It's all just for a show, and then you're like
Speaker 2: or like Legos. Everybody's into Legos all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, really, what's block number two, story
Speaker 2: four seven? Yeah, you don't know, do you like exactly?
Speaker 2: So we have a pink Lego? No, they don't liars,
Speaker 2: you don't know anything.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So I don't mean I don't I don't
Speaker 1: mean this an insulting way. I have to ask, though,
Speaker 1: were you always an attractive person or did you glom
Speaker 1: to the nerd stuff, because maybe you were like kind
Speaker 1: of a weird girl and then like you grew up
Speaker 1: and got hot and everyone's like, oh my god, that
Speaker 1: fucking girl that likes legos is hot now.
Speaker 2: I would say it was a little mix of both.
Speaker 2: I was definitely like the weirdo in school, like for sure,
Speaker 2: like the teacher's pet, like four point oh gpa, like
Speaker 2: oh my god, okay, book Nerd. I was that type
Speaker 2: of kid in school. So I was always a little
Speaker 2: bit of like the outcast. But I haven't really changed
Speaker 2: too much how I look. I don't think like you
Speaker 2: can look at photos on me earlier and like I
Speaker 2: look a little bit different, but like pretty much the same.
Speaker 2: So I think I was just a weird mediocrely okay nerd.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I think about however the universe creates
Speaker 1: people and the soup that they drop in, and I
Speaker 1: think mine's mostly water with like a carrot in it,
Speaker 1: and yours is this big, grand soup with creativity and
Speaker 1: beauty and intelligence. Four point zero. Dude, I had like
Speaker 1: a two point two in college and I went for film.
Speaker 1: Do you know how dumb you have to be to
Speaker 1: get that in college? A film?
Speaker 2: You know? I'm sure you did great.
Speaker 1: Uh well, I'm good. I'm good enough to be sitting
Speaker 1: here talking to Kubby Thompson. Uh you said, hocus Pocus
Speaker 1: second favorite movie of all time with.
Speaker 2: Your favorite Jaws by car.
Speaker 1: You just like, I mean, you won my wife over
Speaker 1: ten times over.
Speaker 2: No, that's why I have sharp tattoos all over me,
Speaker 2: Like I literally am covered in shark tattoos. And it's
Speaker 2: just because, like they're my favorite animal. I admire them
Speaker 2: so much. I love the movie Jaws. I think it
Speaker 2: is a masterpiece. So yeah, I just for the greatest.
Speaker 1: You know what you're not, though I don't. I'm read
Speaker 1: I'm trying to read you here. You you have the
Speaker 1: altish style, you have nerd culture. You're not a snake girl, though,
Speaker 1: yeah I am. I have a no folks run. We
Speaker 1: had a this one, this one will ruin your house. Okay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: all right. One time I was down the beach with
Speaker 1: an ex girlfriend and I won this fucking it was
Speaker 1: you could have a goldfish or a little lizard. I
Speaker 1: had never owned a lizard before. I have no interest
Speaker 1: in owning a lizard. So I chose the lizard and
Speaker 1: we come home. So of course you chose the listener
Speaker 1: none whatsoever, And I'm like, okay, it's five bucks to
Speaker 1: win this thing. Great, I'll take the lizard home. The
Speaker 1: lizard will eventually die and whatever. And then I felt bad.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I can't just like let this
Speaker 1: lizard die because I've never been animals or whatever. So
Speaker 1: I had to go out and spend like three hundred
Speaker 1: dollars on this fucking full setup and had a lamp
Speaker 1: on it. And this dumb lizard lived for like four years.
Speaker 1: Do you know how long those animals at the beach die?
Speaker 1: They're begging for death when they're in those little bags
Speaker 1: waiting to be picked up from the corner.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you know what kind of lizard it was?
Speaker 2: It was in a knoll, h So it was like
Speaker 2: the little green ones, just.
Speaker 1: A little guy, and it terrified the shit out of me.
Speaker 1: And I had to feed it crickets, and I would
Speaker 1: have to pick up the crickets by their legs with
Speaker 1: a tweezer and drop it in and then I.
Speaker 2: You can also just pick them up with your hands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you could do that. Sure, you could do that.
Speaker 1: That's true. You're becoming your house to deliver crickets to
Speaker 1: your lizards, folks.
Speaker 2: But that's my next business venture after this adult world.
Speaker 2: Forget the directing thing. I'm going to deliver in my hands.
Speaker 1: What kind of lizard do you have?
Speaker 2: I have a bearded dragon.
Speaker 1: Okay, see they're cute. They are kind of cute because
Speaker 1: they're like creepy looking, but like when they run towards
Speaker 1: you and stuff this, Yeah, they do that. Well that's
Speaker 1: what I do, jazz hands. Huh. Okay, So what do
Speaker 1: we have coming up in the future? Do you have
Speaker 1: any type of scene or shoot coming up? You don't
Speaker 1: have to say names or whatever, but that you're so
Speaker 1: so excited to do.
Speaker 2: I will give one a shout out because I've already
Speaker 2: done it and the lightning is back. I've already shot
Speaker 2: this video, but I think it's really going to be
Speaker 2: one that people need to look out for. I shot
Speaker 2: with Angela White and Kieren Lee, and it was Kieren
Speaker 2: Lee's big brasser comeback in almost two years, so he
Speaker 2: hasn't shot from them, so it was his big comeback video. Obviously,
Speaker 2: it's Angela White, who was an icon, and then I
Speaker 2: was thrown in that mix somehow, and so you know,
Speaker 2: I definitely think it's the one that everybody should go
Speaker 2: watch when it comes out. There's not a release date yet,
Speaker 2: but you better watch it for me. Better hype it up,
Speaker 2: you do?
Speaker 1: You just okay, I don't mean this in a rude
Speaker 1: way at all. Do you just expect it now that
Speaker 1: you'll have all because again your first offer, your first
Speaker 1: big thing or whatever, getting in brassers just throw away
Speaker 1: at whatever, just browsers.
Speaker 2: Now they're like, Ferrari, do you.
Speaker 1: Want to be the comeback scene for Kiaren and to
Speaker 1: work with just Angela White too? By the way, do
Speaker 1: you are you expecting it now? Like if you showed
Speaker 1: up on set and some dude was just kind of
Speaker 1: like average, would you just be like, all right, we'll
Speaker 1: get through this.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't expect anything in my life. I
Speaker 2: think you genuinely have to put your whole heart and
Speaker 2: soul into something and then you'll be rewarded. And so
Speaker 2: I think that that is what is happening. Is I
Speaker 2: am I got a small reward for my dedication and
Speaker 2: passion to this industry. But I yeah, the grind isn't
Speaker 2: going to stop because I think I am gonna just
Speaker 2: get everything now Like no, definitely not. And it's exactly
Speaker 2: we're gonna go harder than ever.
Speaker 1: Last question I have. I have two questions for you.
Speaker 1: This one's a little more complicated and then just a
Speaker 1: nice wrap up question. But are you nervous about AI
Speaker 1: at all? Because I thought also personal experience. That's what
Speaker 1: I had always heard. I don't want to talk to
Speaker 1: someone that looks like Kubby Thompson. I want to talk
Speaker 1: to Kubby Thompson herself. But there was a new report
Speaker 1: that came out that said only fans revenues for AI
Speaker 1: models may surpass real models in twenty twenty six. Are
Speaker 1: you terrified of AI? Do you see it as kind
Speaker 1: of a benefit because some of the stuff they've been
Speaker 1: doing with like Sora and this and that is very interesting,
Speaker 1: very very interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, So my personal opinion on AI, I think
Speaker 2: that it can be really helpful in so many ways.
Speaker 2: I think there's so many ways that we really need
Speaker 2: AI to make things better. But then I think there's
Speaker 2: other ways like that where it's people having profiles that
Speaker 2: are almost solely just AI based people and it's not
Speaker 2: even a real person. I think that can be very
Speaker 2: harming and dangerous. I think people there's a lot of
Speaker 2: people that I've seen on Twitter even there's been like
Speaker 2: AI photos where like I look at it, like she
Speaker 2: has seventeen toes, like, of course that's AI. But then
Speaker 2: you'll look at the comments and there'll be tons of
Speaker 2: people that won't know that it's AI, and so I
Speaker 2: think it can be very dangerous. I think if it's
Speaker 2: going to happen, there needs to be precautions put in
Speaker 2: place where the profile maybe look different or is different,
Speaker 2: and that clearly states, hey, this is not a real person.
Speaker 2: This is you know, like there needs to be like
Speaker 2: banners on things or something. There needs to be something
Speaker 2: that lets people know this is not and never will
Speaker 2: be a real person type of thing. But I think
Speaker 2: once precaution is like that can be made and then
Speaker 2: somebody can easily look at a profile and be like, oh,
Speaker 2: this doesn't have the AI things all over, so this
Speaker 2: is a real person. Like, I think, once things like
Speaker 2: that get put into place, it won't be as scary
Speaker 2: of a thing. But I think right now, where we're
Speaker 2: in this weird limbo stage with it, and some people
Speaker 2: can tell, some people can't tell, I think that is
Speaker 2: where it can be a dangerous, scary and not good
Speaker 2: place that it's in right now.
Speaker 1: I really like it for it because I understand the
Speaker 1: argument that artists make too. You're taking things away from artists,
Speaker 1: You're not giving the opportunity or the AI is drawling
Speaker 1: from artists. Where I think it could be really beneficial.
Speaker 1: Ease right there where I think it could be really beneficial.
Speaker 1: Is you shot your thing, you closed off that train station.
Speaker 1: What if we could just green screen that You're not
Speaker 1: really hurting any artists, You're not doing anything, so background
Speaker 1: work I think would be great. Stuff you can't do,
Speaker 1: like if I have to fix my voice in something,
Speaker 1: AI can help with that. But I agree the scam
Speaker 1: thing is just completely like your scumbag if you're doing
Speaker 1: I get it. Last question, what's the endgame? Are you
Speaker 1: just gonna keep growing? I asked you before about mainstream,
Speaker 1: but also it sounded like you kind of answered it
Speaker 1: is endgame behind the camera for the next X amount
Speaker 1: of years. Or is porn which there is no problem
Speaker 1: with this is porn a pit stop, not a pit
Speaker 1: stop in a bad way, but a stop on a
Speaker 1: more creative journey you're doing.
Speaker 2: I definitely wouldn't say porn is a pit stop for me.
Speaker 2: I definitely think it is something that has changed my life,
Speaker 2: and so I would like to eventually do the same
Speaker 2: and hopefully change the porn game a little bit, change
Speaker 2: how things are shot or done, or like do new
Speaker 2: interesting things that haven't been done yet. I would love
Speaker 2: to be the call maker for some of those things,
Speaker 2: but I'm definitely not ready for that yet. I'm definitely
Speaker 2: loving being in front of the camera for right now.
Speaker 2: I think this is where I want to be for
Speaker 2: a bit longer, and then maybe like ten years down
Speaker 2: the line and we can switch it up and then
Speaker 2: you guys can start watching some of the movies that
Speaker 2: I produce.
Speaker 1: My guest tonight, Kubby Thompson. You know exactly where you
Speaker 1: can find her at Cubby xoxo. Make sure you go
Speaker 1: to the episode description, follow everywhere that's free, bare minimum.
Speaker 1: Go pay for what you are able to pay for.
Speaker 1: Don't put your family in you know, debt, because maybe
Speaker 1: do it if that's kind of your thing. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna judge your relationship, but make sure you
Speaker 1: support these people because if you don't support them, then
Speaker 1: the AI takes over. Ladies and gentlemen. My guest tonight,
Speaker 1: Cobby Thompson. Cubby, thanks so much for coming on.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.