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Speaker 1: Kubbe Thompson, my guest for the evening at Cubby XO

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xo exactly where you think it is links to everything

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in the episode description. That description, Cubby, thank you so

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much for coming on with me tonight.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. I love being here.

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Speaker 1: Let me start with the basic boring. Every show starts

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with this. Oh my god, it's going to bring a

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new answer that no one's ever heard before. How did

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you initially decide to get into the adult entertainment industry?

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Speaker 2: Well, my start might be a little different from what

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you've heard, so maybe I can surprise you a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure your answer is different. My question is

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the most hack beginning question anyone could ever ask. So

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I appreciate gotcha, gotcha.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, my start was a little interesting. Browsers reached

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out to me years ago asking you if I would

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like to shoot for them, and I declined. I was like,

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you know what, no, thanks not for me. And then

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they reached out again a couple of years later, and

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I was like, you know what, let's give it a go.

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Why not? And yeah, So I wish I said yes

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the first time, but I'm happy I said yes finally.

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Speaker 1: Sure, well, let me ask then, I mean, did you

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were you okay? Were you an accountant at a bank

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and browsers asked you? Or were you an online model

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at that point? Like why did they have a reason

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to reach out and ask you?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So I do live streaming. I live streamed on

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MFC and I still stream over there occasionally, and I

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absolutely love it. I think it is a wonderful community

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and everything. And I have a lot of fun being

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creative coming up with fun ideas for whether it be

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an outfit or for like a set that I want

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to create, or like a theme for like the night

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or something. I absolutely love being creative and like testing

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the limits and seeing like, okay, what can I do

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with this like simple idea? How can I make it

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like a crazy fun idea instead of just like a

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simple idea? And I think they noticed that on my streaming.

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I think they noticed my dedication, my creativity, my passion

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for it, and so I think that's really what caught

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their eye where they were like, okay, so you know

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you look all right, but like your creativity and your

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passion that's what we love. And so I think that's

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really what caught their attention you.

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Speaker 1: Know, it's nice. They probably would have done the same

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thing if you were six foot five, four hundred pounds

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because of the creativity and the passion and all of

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that stuff, Like they offer me all the time. They're like,

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please come shoot with us, You're so creative and passionate,

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and I just go, no, guys, I'm a monster. Actually

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I'm not an attactive guy. So you were camming first,

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then you were on MFC, and what was the entrance

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into that? Like then when when you did you have

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a vanilla job before then? Or was it like eighteen

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years old? Let's hop into the you know whatever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I did. I've had vanilla jobs. I have,

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but I've I'm a huge workaholic. I'm gonna be honest

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with you, and so any chance I can get any

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downtime I have, I'm like, okay, can I ask something

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onto my belt? Is there something else I can do?

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Is there something I can do more than what I'm

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doing now? And so yeah, I owned a couple of

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businesses when I was under eighteen, made decent money off

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of those and were able to start my life, Like

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I bought a house and everything before I even started

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this career and then I got to like a pretty

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like happy place, and I was like, Okay, I want

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something new and exciting and fun. Is something I can

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really just put all of my effort into. And so

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then I found cam And because I had a house

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where I had like a guest room that I can

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make into like a fun little cam room, now, I

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was like, you know what, Yeah, this sounds fun. And

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like I said earlier, I'm like a super creative person.

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I used to do cosplay for a living, and so

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I kind of turned that into like a bit of

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the Cami RealD, you know, kind of merged the two

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and just had some really fun with it, and I

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just fell in love with it. So I just went

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and did it full time from there.

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Speaker 1: No personal details, But where does that drive to work

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so much come from? Because I have never found that

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in my life, and I am significantly older than I

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should be at this point. I fucking hate work, but

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I do like my passions. I'll stay up editing this

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till five in the morning and then get up and

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edit some more and do this and that. But my

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day job, I couldn't give a shit less half effort,

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don't really care, just kind of run through it and

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collect my paycheck. Bosses aren't going to like hearing that.

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But but what does that come from?

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Speaker 2: You?

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Speaker 1: I know what drives me to do that is personally?

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Is that thunder?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, something just got struck by lightning.

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Speaker 1: I was interviewing a lady the other day and a

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fucking motorcycle ripped by, and she said she didn't hear it,

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but I couldn't hear myself fucking saying the question.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you heard it, so I'm not for no reason.

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Speaker 1: That was crazy. We don't We don't cut on the

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show unless you need me to cut. But uh man, sorry,

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I don't know that was so loud. I'm terrified that

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you're gonna be electricated.

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Speaker 2: Now the lights off in five minutes.

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Speaker 1: Well what does your drop? Where does that drive come from?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Again, I don't want to. Did you grow up broke?

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I have a theory that people grow up broke either

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go one or two ways. Their stay broke forever or

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they go I'm not gonna be broke forever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh that's basically what it was. My family was

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pretty much split up into two and one was doing

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pretty okay and then the other side wasn't doing so okay,

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and so I got to experience what honest drive can

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do for you. And then what if you just want

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to like be okay with this, So you could just

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be okay with this, And yeah, I chose to really

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try and get myself out of that situation and really

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try and make a better, different life for myself. And

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I feel like I've done pretty okay. Honestly, I feel

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like I feel like we're doing okay over here.

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Speaker 1: I think you're doing great. I think you're doing from

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the homicipt for the fucking weather outside. You haven't figured

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out how to change, you know, Okay. I always and

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I don't want to delve into personal I just always

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have this theory that some of the most interesting and

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hardest working people I speak to in this industry again,

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nothing about the personal stuff, but grew up maybe realizing

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I need to get out of this, I have to

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get out of whatever this is. And you did that

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even before getting into the adult entertainment industry. You were

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just like, hey, I'm not going to be fucking broke.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. From a very very young age, I was obsessed

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with like credit score and learning about mortgages and everything.

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I needed to start worrying about that. I knew how

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to handle it. I knew what to do. I knew

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what to prepare for and do like re prep before

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whoever I even got to that stage than when I

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got there, I was like, oh, I understand it, I

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know it. I'm set. I know what I need to do,

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and I'm going to do those things. And yeah, that's

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what happened.

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Speaker 1: So going into then again, you're already successful in all

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these different things. Now you want a new creative venture.

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How does it get to I'm going to take my

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clothes off now? Because it seems like a leap, Like

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I couldn't get to that leap. I would have to

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be like gun against my wife's head. You have to

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take your clothes off now, and I'd be like fuck,

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I guess yeah, how do you get there? How? Cause

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it it seems drastic. But you're very attractive, so it

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seemed like that's a logical step if you want to

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make a ton of money right away.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've always been very confident. I've always been

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very a little bit of a I'm going to dress

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up so I can get some eyes on me rather

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than like cover up and just hide in the corner

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and just blend into everything. I've always been a little

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bit more of like a I'm going to stand out,

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and so yeah, it just came kind naturally, Honestly, I'll

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be brutally honest. I was always one of those people

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that was just like posting selfies online for like what reason.

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I wasn't like an influencer or anything, you know, and

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so it's just like, let's take these selfies a little

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bit further. I get a little bit more eyes on them.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're my free cams?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Was that just solo? There we go, There we go,

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there's the thunder again? Was that there?

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Speaker 2: Is?

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Speaker 1: Was that solo?

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Speaker 2: It was?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I did by myself. I occasionally collabed with other NFC

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models that were on there and stuff, but I would

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say ninety nine percent of the time it was just

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me myself and.

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Speaker 1: I'm so, how about your first boy Girl shoot? Was

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that for browsers? Then im? And no?

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Speaker 2: I shoot content for myself as well, and the first

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boy Girl video was actually on there. I did a

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campaign on my stream one month where I said, if

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we get like a top number for the model on

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the entire site for the month. I was like, if

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we get above this number, I'll release my first ever

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boy girl video, and yeah, they coleared that goal and

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so natural progression from there.

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah that makes sense. How about your first time

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on set? Was that Browsers like a set set, like

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a you're not in control of this set?

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Speaker 2: It was? It was. It was my very first mainstream

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video ever was for Browsers, which I have come to

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learn that that is a really cool thing that not

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a lot of people get to say, and so I'm

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getting much more proud of seeing that now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it did. It's it's no offense to you.

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like if you were to tell anybody that would be like,

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what was your first car? I was a Mercedes brand new?

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Off the lot? It's like, oh, kubby, what was the

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first thing she's got? Brawsers? Oh, interesting, Well, her own

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content after she had built her own businesses up throughout

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her life, but also Brawser's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to stroke my Ferrari off the lot.

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Speaker 1: It's fine when you when you step onto that set,

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is there any anxiety with that? Is there any fear

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or are you just full confidence, is it full energy,

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like what's going through your head in that moment.

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Speaker 2: Whenever I work with a new crew, there is always

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a slight anxiousness in there where it's like, oh, I

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wonder how they work, I wonder how they perform. I

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wonder how the day is gonna go. I wonder if

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they're nice, is they like joking around or if they're

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just like stone cold serious, like you know, there's always

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that side anxiety where it's like the unknown of how

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people are going to react that you've never met before.

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But especially once I get on set, once the cameras

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start rolling, or if it's a crew that I've worked

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with tons of like tons of times, there's no nervous

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is there. This is what I'm supposed to do. I

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feel like this is like my calling in life, And

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so as soon as the cameras start rolling, I'm like, yes,

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it's my time. Now, it's what I'm supposed to be doing,

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Like let's do this.

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Speaker 1: You know, It's no, it's it's it is not more

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evident then I don't know what the fuck I'm trying

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to say. It is very evident that you are not

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just kind of a one note type person because going

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through your bio that was sent over by Erica, the

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lovely Erica. We all love Erica. I don't know. I

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don't know why I said that, like a president. We

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all love Erica. Eric is the best. She's the greatest

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there's ever been.

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Speaker 2: We are.

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Speaker 1: But going through the bio, I'm like, Okay, what do

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I need to plug for sure? Here? Holy shit? How

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much does she have going on everywhere? Tell me about

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First off, very simple, and this goes back to another thing.

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Tell me about your Etsy shop because I pulled up

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your Etsy shop and first question I have for you

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it seems like the futured items are your calendar every year? Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, they are a highlight items each year.

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Speaker 1: Sure. Second question is do you have to buy them?

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This sounds really I have one of the hottest women

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in the world on with me, and I go like this,

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do you have to buy them in advance or they

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print to share?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we'll get down to the manufacturer questions. I

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like it.

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Speaker 1: I like it. Supply chain now I want to know

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about supply chain.

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Speaker 2: Yes, what kind of discounts to you?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 2: No, I yeah, the calendars are definitely the hot ticket item.

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I also have cub cult surets, which is what I

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call my fandom. They're the cub cults, and so yeah,

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you can rock your cub cult merch. You can hang

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me up on your wall. There's also other things in

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they're like stickers and like little resin things that I make,

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which is really fun. It's really I'm a painter. I

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like doing art, and so it's really fun to like

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either have a painting or like little resin things that

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I make or whatever and put them in there. So

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then it's not just like a merch item. It's like

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a piece of art that I actually created. And it

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could be like sneaky, like oh, you know when people

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are over, you don't have to tell them like oh,

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a porn star paint of that, but like when your

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friends are over you like a porn star hated me this,

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Like it's a little more fun than just like slapping

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my face on something being like, oh, merch, it's just me.

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It's like no, there's like you're like obvious merch and

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then like sneaky merch.

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Speaker 1: My wife just got into felting. You ever fuck with felting?

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Speaker 2: I have I poked my finger too many times.

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Speaker 1: And I was like you know this is me, So

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I'm looking at seeing your resin school. We haven't really

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dug into resin in our household. We're an artistic household

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as well. And by that I mean and I make

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jokes into a microphone.

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Speaker 2: I don't love it.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Going back, one question, the twenty twenty

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four calendar. Now here's my question. Do you have like

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ten boxes of those sitting around somewhere that you're like, fuck, man,

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these got to pick up, like did October hit? Or

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are you good? Like you have limited quantities left?

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Speaker 2: We're okay, there's definitely limited quantities left. But I will

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say last year I did make a slight buck up

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and when I was ordering them, initially we're fine now,

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thank goodness, I sold them. But last year when I

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was ordering them, I accidentally my fingers slipped and I

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hit an extra button and so rather than like two hundred,

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I had like two thousand. You know who, not ideal,

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especially when they get delivered and you didn't realize until

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the boxes just keep showing up and you're like, oh

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my god, what did I do? But yeah, thankfully, thankfully,

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we're good. Now. There's limited quantities, so you know, got

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to get it.

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Speaker 1: If you're on it, do you start looking at the

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inventory around octob and you're like, fuck, we gotta move this.

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Let's get this move in. Are you okay?

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Speaker 2: That's just a j I honestly, I do it per month.

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I'll get so many each month and then I'm like, okay,

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so this is about how many go each month, and

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so I'll get that many. But then if there's like

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if we didn't do that many that month, then yeah,

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I'll be like ooh, little deal going. You know, I

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can't a free stick over the calendar. Let's see.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I need to move on from supply

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chain otherwise the listeners are gonna fucking kill me. You

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know exactly where to find Kubby Thompson here at Cubby xoxo.

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So just moving aside separately OnlyFans. What kind of content

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do you produce for your only fans? Is it a

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little bit of everything? Do you have like a niche

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you kind of stick to?

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Speaker 2: You know? I tried sticking to like certain things and

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have this be like my thing that I always do.

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But then I realized that it got a little too

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repetitive and a little too like, oh, they know what

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to expect, which can be a good thing, but I

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really like my creative side. Once again. I just really

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like having it be where like you're like, oh, she's

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online right now, like I have no clue what she's

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going to post right now. Like I could be like

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in full like Grinch body paint, or I could just

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be in like a sexy little outfit, like you know,

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like you never know what you're going to expect, and

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I kind of like that. It kind of makes it

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fun because like sometimes we'd be like super like sexy

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shows that are you know, you're there for something specific,

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and then there's other ones where we're being silly or

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we're body painting or I'm just doing chores like naked

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around my house. Like there's so many different things where

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it's like you never know what you're going to get,

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and that's what I like about it.

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Speaker 1: Sure sure now, as I discussed with my wife, men

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are the problem in the world. Do you also get

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complaints on those things like you post cleaning around the

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house and some guys like do the bedroom, what do

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you do in I don't care about the kitchen, you know,

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or or guys like, oh, fucking go take a shower,

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don't post all this other kind like they want specific

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things or is everyone pretty happy? Is everyone in the

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cult club? No, the cub cult. The club is what

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I'm starting. And if you want to sign up, you

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just have to drink the flavor Aid. Oh my god,

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it wasn't actually cool aid at jonestown. It was flavor

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aid anyway. Uh, what was my question? Oh? Do you

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get complaints on it though? And what does that feel

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like if you put your heart and soul in your

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creativity into something and someone posts like some guy with

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a you know, I don't know of some kind of

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anime fucking avatar comments like boring period.

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Speaker 2: You know, Thankfully I don't really get any complaints. I

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think the cub cult is very understanding of like who

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I am. That I sometimes am in a silly, goofy mood.

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Sometimes I'm in a sexy mood. Other times I'm like, hey,

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I want to hang out with you, like let's just

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like and like catch up and everything, or watch a

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movie together. And I think they truly understand that that

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I'm just like me on there. I'm not putting on

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like a character, like I'm trying to be like this

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like perfect person or anything No, I'm just like it's

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more like girlfriend experience, Like not every day would I

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be just like putting on a full on production show.

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A lot of the times I do. But then there's

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other times where it's like, no, let's hang out and

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like cuddle and like watch a movie and like have

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dinner together. Like you know, there's like there's there's the

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whole thing. So I think they really like the girlfriend

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experience that I sell on there.

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Speaker 1: Sure, and sometimes your girlfriend wants to just sit on

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the couch in sweatpants and watch Netflix. I suppose that,

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do you know that?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, getting into the industry or not getting it? Have

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you had any this is a question I recently added

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to my repertoire, and maybe not. Have you had any

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firsts in porn? Not like in porn like you did

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it for the first time. Obviously you did all that,

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But was there anything you did in porn that you

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had never done in your personal life before that then

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you had to experience it for the first time in

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front of X amount of people with giant lights on you,

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you know.

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Speaker 2: I think there's like there's tons of different ways that

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I could answer that, because I did start in the

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adult industry almost as soon as I could. I would

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say a lot of my first have been on camera.

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Like the first time I've ever been with a girl

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was on camera. The first time I ever did a

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threesome was on camera. The first time I ever did

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like some more like kinky like bondage stuff like was

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ever on camera. And so like, I think there's a

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lot of things that people would be surprised where it

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was like, oh, that was your first time, because like

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you know, I'm just I'd get into things, I enjoy things,

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and so a lot of the times you can't even tell,

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like it was my first time ever, but a lot

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the times it is my first on camera.

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Speaker 1: So how do you prep for any of those types

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of things, Like how do you prep for your first

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girl girl seeing? Do you like find a very feminine

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looking boy and kiss him a lot? Or like what

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is that was just a real bad joke? What do

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you do to prep for these types of things? Was

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there anything or were you just kind of like fuck it,

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let's run in and try this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a very experimental person. I will try anything once,

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whether that be sexual, food, like anything. I will try

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anything at least once. But I always say, you have

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to try it twice. The first time could be a

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bad restaurant, could be a bad cook that night, but

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if you go back, you're like, no, this is the

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best meal I've ever had. So you know, you always

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have to try things at least once, but definitely try

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it twice. And that's how I've kind of always been.

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So I'm always just like, oh, I've never tried that,

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Let's try it. If it's for me, then fuck yeah,

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it's for me after that. But if it's not for me,

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like they let me try with somebody else, let me

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see if it's a different vibe or something with somebody else,

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and then if it's still not for me, then it's

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still not for me. But you gotta try things. That's

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the exciting part of life.

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Speaker 1: I understand the variety that your creativity takes. But let

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me say, let me ask this, if there was one specialty,

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kink or fetish that you especially enjoy. Everything else is

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in ninety nine? This is one hundred is there? And

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it just whatever it was, you started getting a bunch

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of requests for it on your only fans, would you

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be thrilled? No, that's not even a question. I don't

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I tried to word it in a way where it

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was like, don't sound stupid, and instead I believe, Yeah,

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I don't. I don't you sound like my wife and

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not my mother. Uh So, let me ask again, what

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is like a specialty? If you will that if you

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had to stick to just one thing you'd be happy

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doing that? Is it? Just do you like doing joy stuff,

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solo stuff, boy girl stuff? Like again, if you were

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only fans had to rebrand as one strictly one niche,

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blah blah blah, what do you think it would be?

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Speaker 2: Honestly, if I had to pick one, that's so hard

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because I like it all, but I think I would

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go with more of the like cosplay themed, like storytelling,

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uh like niche just because like I have, some of

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my favorite videos for me personally and for my viewers

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are the ones where like I make like full sets,

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I make full storylines, I make like costumes to go

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with it. Like I have ones that I'm like a

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devil girl and I made like a full dungeon with

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as salt rain candles like this whole thing. There's another

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Harry Potter one where I like, I rented out an

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entire train station just for like a ten second clip

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in the beginning of the video of me or at

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the school, you know, like there's just I love fully

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going out with like the cosplay and the storytelling ones

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where it's like, no, I'm like role playing as a character,

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Like I love those ones, and so I probably would

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pick like cosplay role play to be my thing.

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Speaker 1: What is your favorite theme of cosplay that you like

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to dive into? Is an anime stuff? If is it

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Star Wars? Do you really like Willow stuff from the

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eighties and don't even get that reference.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I am a huge Star Wars nerd. Like I

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posted something yesterday of me swinging lightsabers, Like I that's

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like a daily exercise for me at this point is

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lightsaber fielding. So you know, yeah, let's for sure let's

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go that. Oh my gosh, I did Darth Maul last

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made a fourth full I have to do it again

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this year. Like I never felt more myself was when

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I was Darth Maul. I was like, oh my god,

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this is me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but are you making in the cosplay?

477
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, yeah I have. I have some posters where it's.

478
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: Are you read all over? Yeah?

479
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: These hours?

480
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: Want you just be.

481
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: I mean, I've done a bit of it all.

482
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: You know.

483
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,559
Speaker 2: I done some Lay, I've done some Luke. I've done

484
00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:22,079
some Darth Vader Darth Maul like you know I've done.

485
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,680
I've done a couple of characters.

486
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 1: There.

487
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 2: I gotta do Jaba next.

488
00:24:26,519 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: I'll do jobafore you. I'm not that big, folks, by

489
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:38,079
the way, I'm okay, I'm I'm all right, I'm okay,

490
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,000
I'm all right. That's what I have to keep reaffirming

491
00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:43,400
to my wife every night. You know, I'm okay. I

492
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,119
have nice eyes and good teeth. That should be enough.

493
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,519
You also have. Now, Look, I take this very seriously

494
00:24:51,599 --> 00:24:54,160
because I've never had the balls to actually get on stage.

495
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,000
I have to do it behind a microphone. You have

496
00:24:56,079 --> 00:24:58,319
comedian light on your Twitter bio.

497
00:24:59,279 --> 00:24:59,799
Speaker 2: I do, I do?

498
00:25:00,279 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 1: Okay, all right? Have you ever actually done like stand

499
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:02,920
up stuff?

500
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,559
Speaker 2: Yeah? I used to have a comedy stage show when

501
00:25:07,599 --> 00:25:09,720
I used to do cosplay and stuff. I had a

502
00:25:09,759 --> 00:25:14,680
comedy stage show that I did and it was tons

503
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,559
of fun. It was I traveled to so many states

504
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,079
and just made people laugh, which is like my entire

505
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,200
purpose for living is just to make as many people

506
00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:27,759
laugh as I can. Sure, That's why I started my

507
00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:30,680
YouTube because it's kind of like me being silly, goofy,

508
00:25:30,839 --> 00:25:33,880
like I want to make you laugh. So yeah, that

509
00:25:34,279 --> 00:25:36,960
stage show really like spawned so many things where I

510
00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:39,079
just like, I just want to make people laugh.

511
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: You know, I always try and put anxiety on other people,

512
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,240
So I apologize for that. But here's what I'll ask.

513
00:25:45,839 --> 00:25:49,640
Is it more anxiety inducing to stand up in front

514
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,000
of two hundred people at a stage show or to

515
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,799
step on a set where we're doing a you know,

516
00:25:55,759 --> 00:25:58,000
male male female today like something like that.

517
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: Honestly, and I know people would think I'm crazy for this,

518
00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:06,359
but I think they're about the same, which is crazy

519
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,160
because one you're just standing there with a microphone and

520
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,960
the other one you have like your clothes taken off

521
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,440
and everybody's staring at you. But like they're they're about

522
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,319
the same. To me. You I get that like tiny

523
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,559
bit of nervousness, like the same thing where it's like

524
00:26:20,599 --> 00:26:23,039
I wonder how they're gonna react, Like I wonder how

525
00:26:23,079 --> 00:26:25,400
they're gonna be, And then as soon as you get

526
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,599
up there and like it starts and everything, then you're

527
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,440
just like I'm in my element.

528
00:26:29,599 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: Let's do this to be fair. Here's why it is

529
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,480
scary because as an audience member I'm a lot more

530
00:26:36,599 --> 00:26:38,759
likely to heckle you if you're standing on the stage

531
00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:42,319
with a microphone rather than naked on a couch like

532
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,480
the second one. I don't give a shit what you say.

533
00:26:44,519 --> 00:26:48,079
I'll just yep, she's right, she's got it, she says

534
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:48,920
is good.

535
00:26:50,039 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

536
00:26:51,559 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 1: If you're up there and you're like, you have airplane food,

537
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,920
I'm like, Yo, get this chick off the stage.

538
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 2: You have an airplane. But okay, honestly that deserves me

539
00:26:59,000 --> 00:26:59,680
heckled a little.

540
00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: Okay, do you ever want so? Here's what I love

541
00:27:05,759 --> 00:27:09,480
hearing about you is you do these grand productions. It

542
00:27:09,599 --> 00:27:11,160
sounds like, or you at least try to when you

543
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,160
work on and you build up these grain productions. What

544
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,960
is the crossover to mainstream gonna be someday? Because I

545
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,839
don't know that this world can contain you creativity. I

546
00:27:22,839 --> 00:27:25,200
think you can only play step daughter for so many

547
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,400
years before you become step mother, and then you just

548
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,519
go I'm tired of being a step something. Do you

549
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,960
have mainstream ambitions at all?

550
00:27:35,799 --> 00:27:40,559
Speaker 2: Like like mainstream mainstream, like like movies, movies, And I

551
00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:43,960
don't mean like oh, Cubby and Leo, like, look, sorry,

552
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,880
Brass's was your first one here, but you may have

553
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,160
to start a little bit smaller when it comes to Hollywood.

554
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,319
Speaker 1: Hollywood. But I mean, I mean, I mean, like, uh,

555
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,440
do you have any ambitions too? I know a lot

556
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,119
of porn stars start off doing like horror movie roles

557
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,720
and stuff, and I think that's pretty much because they

558
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:00,759
can get the tops off, right.

559
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: It seems like, yeah, they just gotta stream and they're like,

560
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000
you your books, you got it, so you know. I

561
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,000
feel like I feel like that's a pretty good place

562
00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:11,519
to start for a lot of people. Yeah, no, I would.

563
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,200
I would love to. Honestly, I was a theater kid

564
00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:19,880
growing up. That's why so many of my uh, mainstream

565
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,119
movies currently in the adult industry have long scripts or

566
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,839
a lot of acting in them, because the directors know, like, hey,

567
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,839
this one, this one can act a little bit. So

568
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,480
I genuinely enjoy acting. I love like pretending to be

569
00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:37,640
a different character, So I would love to. But I

570
00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:42,480
more importantly, I think I would really like to eventually

571
00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:46,000
be behind the camera in the adult mainstream industry and

572
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,920
direct I would love I have so many ideas for

573
00:28:49,079 --> 00:28:52,079
videos and stuff that I would love to really just

574
00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:55,359
get them out and do them. And I think with

575
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,119
all like the grandeur of how I like to do

576
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,480
things with like sets and costumes and themes, role play

577
00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:03,279
and everything, I think I can make some really fun stuff.

578
00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:04,680
So I would love to try one day.

579
00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:07,279
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, you have a very. And I'm not

580
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,480
just blowing smoke here, I'm being serious. You have a very.

581
00:29:09,759 --> 00:29:12,079
Uh it was ironic. I used Leo in that thing,

582
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,559
your very, Margot Robbie looked to your face. Are you

583
00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:15,400
told that ever?

584
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: Thank you?

585
00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: I compliment it is. I love that great. If you

586
00:29:21,599 --> 00:29:24,480
hate it, Margot Robbie and you're just like, yo, fuck her,

587
00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:31,240
I was just like, this is okay, No, she's great.

588
00:29:31,359 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: And I love that she's Harley Quinn because I have

589
00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:36,039
like my own little like clown persona, and you know,

590
00:29:36,119 --> 00:29:37,960
so I feel like we're just like par on par

591
00:29:38,079 --> 00:29:40,559
on that like I feel like I'm the adult industry

592
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,359
version of her.

593
00:29:42,119 --> 00:29:44,519
Speaker 1: I think that's the way I always. I love hearing

594
00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:47,799
what you said there too, because I make no judgments

595
00:29:47,799 --> 00:29:50,000
on anyone in this industry. You can go whatever path

596
00:29:50,039 --> 00:29:51,640
you want to do. If someone girl says to me,

597
00:29:51,839 --> 00:29:54,799
I want to make three million dollars and then I'm out, wonderful,

598
00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:56,720
good for you. I want to shoot until I'm doing

599
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,880
granny stuff, wonderful, good for you. So rare to hear

600
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,359
people say I want to get behind the camera and

601
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,119
I want to work in a way that's not judged

602
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,119
just based off of how I look or how I

603
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,240
perform in front of.

604
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: It, exactly like, I really want to show my creative side,

605
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:18,880
Like while I look okay, I'll be in front of

606
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,079
the camera, but then eventually I just want to get

607
00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:25,119
behind the camera. I want to write scripts. I want

608
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,480
to show my silly, goofy side. I want to show

609
00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:30,079
my creative side. I just want to you know, I

610
00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:32,039
want to take what I do for my own content

611
00:30:32,359 --> 00:30:35,599
and do it for companies and make it really big

612
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,240
and grand and amazing.

613
00:30:37,839 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: Is there a chance you grow your brand big enough

614
00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:44,319
where you don't even think about working with the mainstreams

615
00:30:44,359 --> 00:30:46,480
in that way? Because you say I'd like to grow

616
00:30:46,519 --> 00:30:48,920
myself big enough to do this and that, But I mean,

617
00:30:49,079 --> 00:30:51,680
we both. I'm sure no women in this industry who

618
00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:55,240
the stuff they make is almost bigger than a lot

619
00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:56,880
of the mainstream A lot of the interviews I do

620
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,880
with people. They say, I shoot mainstream to advertise my

621
00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:02,920
personal stuff. You know, you slap a big face at

622
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,359
the top there, and someone goes, I need to see

623
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,119
if she is an only fans at cubby xo xo.

624
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,039
I need to see that, man, You know, that would

625
00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:12,519
be great.

626
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: I I have started coming up with a business that

627
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:25,960
I could transform into a production company one day. I'm

628
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,319
starting to set up with the tiles, you know, for

629
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,240
the future and everything for what I want. People always

630
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,160
talk about how scary a ten year plan is, and

631
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,200
I'm like, no, I'm already on my twenty year plan.

632
00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:38,960
Like we're already not far in advance. So yeah, I

633
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,799
would love to make a name for myself in this industry,

634
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,680
make friends in this industry, and then eventually transform that

635
00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:48,880
into my own thing where I can have my own

636
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,039
ideas with my own company, and then have my amazing,

637
00:31:52,079 --> 00:31:54,160
beautiful friends that are in the industry shooting for me.

638
00:31:54,599 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's set a milestone right now. Today,

639
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,640
the day we're doing this interview, I want to do

640
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,920
a thing we call stat check. Now. Stat check is

641
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,400
a thing where we use the Internet Adult Film Database IAFD,

642
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,599
and it's almost like IMDb except it is nowhere near

643
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,799
as accurate. All the numbers are wrong. I'm gonna say,

644
00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:16,920
I'm to you, and your response is gonna be this.

645
00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:19,119
I just know it. You're gonna go. Those numbers are off,

646
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,799
even though we've established at the beginning those numbers they're off.

647
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,000
I told you so, you probably won't do it, but

648
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:29,680
you might do it anyway and go. Those numbers are off.

649
00:32:30,079 --> 00:32:33,279
Let me run through it. So, according to IAFD dot

650
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:38,519
com scenes thirty one, you've done thirty one scenes. Now,

651
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:41,920
this doesn't count personal stuff, this and that. It counts

652
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,119
so many VIDs but not it's wrong. We're just gonna

653
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,799
check on it a year from now when you own

654
00:32:46,839 --> 00:32:49,640
your own studio and we're like, oh my god, remember

655
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,359
when she only did thirty one scenes. Number of guys

656
00:32:54,359 --> 00:32:56,440
you've worked with twenty two, so that means you can

657
00:32:56,519 --> 00:32:59,640
still get into heaven. A number of girls you've worked

658
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,440
with eight. No. Now, as far as nominations, I'm only

659
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,240
going AVN here. I know you have other ones as well,

660
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:10,559
but no AVN nominations yet. Is that correct? Yeah?

661
00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 2: So far all of these are wrong, but that's fine.

662
00:33:13,599 --> 00:33:16,119
Speaker 1: She did it. She did it, folks. We knew she'd

663
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:21,160
do it because we know how valuable numbers are to

664
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,000
these adult performers. It is their livelihood, which means make

665
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:27,680
sure you go sign up at cubby XO XO linked

666
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,200
everything in the episode description, but we knew she'd do it,

667
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,319
so no, no, no wins yet. You know it was funny.

668
00:33:33,319 --> 00:33:35,200
I interviewed someone the other day and she was at

669
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,880
her computer and she goes, hold on and I hear typing,

670
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,319
and I go, okay, what are you doing? She goes,

671
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:43,640
I have a spreadsheet with everyone I've worked with, and

672
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,240
I was like, oh, oh, this is great. So I

673
00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:50,759
go your IAFD says this many scenes. She goes one, two, three,

674
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,279
she goes, no, that's wrong, thirty eight and I.

675
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: Was like, iconic, No, I have been nominated for a

676
00:33:58,839 --> 00:34:04,400
v and Awards. I think there was six maybe in

677
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,160
total that I've been nominated for. I haven't won any

678
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,480
with av IN yet, but I have one. Oh my goodness,

679
00:34:11,559 --> 00:34:18,320
I have one, the Lightning Back. I have won three

680
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,719
Expiz Awards and seven Foreign Awards as well as like

681
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,519
thirteen Cammy Awards and everything. But yeah, no Evans yet,

682
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:29,239
but we're coming for you next time we do this.

683
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,880
I'm I'd be like, I got one.

684
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: And then I know that absolutely the ALT Awards interesting

685
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,440
because that was my first one. I first look at you,

686
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,000
I go again, I was born way later than you, earlier,

687
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,159
late whatever, I'm older than you. And I look at

688
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,440
and I went, oh, this girl's alt or what we

689
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,679
called it back in the early two thousands, we would

690
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:57,159
have said, goth, that was wrong your tattoos? Are we

691
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,280
going to grow it out to a full body? Are

692
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,719
you happy? Wor you are? Now? Is a couple more

693
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,639
you want to pick up?

694
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 2: I definitely want a couple of more on I know

695
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,239
I completely covered them. What's perfect for this conversation right now?

696
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,599
This arm, this arm is a full sleeve. It's like

697
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,519
fully covered. This arm has like little sticker ones here

698
00:35:17,559 --> 00:35:19,519
and there. I would love to get a few more

699
00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:22,639
sticker ones that have meaning and stuff. But I don't

700
00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:25,480
really think a full like body sleeve is every in

701
00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:28,440
my future. I have some of my legs, but you know,

702
00:35:28,519 --> 00:35:30,880
I like I like you to see like me a

703
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,360
little bit still, but also some stuff that I'm into,

704
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,719
so I'd like to keep it that way.

705
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,039
Speaker 1: Gotcha, the hocus pocus on the back of your thighs?

706
00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:39,679
What is the story behind that.

707
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 2: I'm honestly just a huge hocus Pocus fan. It is

708
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,079
my second favorite movie of all time. And I got

709
00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:49,840
it on my thighs because you know that's where the

710
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:50,400
magic is.

711
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,559
Speaker 1: My wife and I every year we're in Jersey. Every

712
00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:59,360
year we drive up to Salem for Halloween. Oh we

713
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,920
stay there for a week. We've done it for like

714
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,440
ten years now, save for one COVID year in the middle.

715
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:11,599
But it's you're coming, get out of here. Actually, actually,

716
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:13,519
my wife would leave me home as long as you

717
00:36:13,559 --> 00:36:17,760
were driving, that would be fine. But we go every year.

718
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,239
It's it's just the most have you ever been?

719
00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: I haven't one day.

720
00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: It's the most beautiful little just walking down just small

721
00:36:26,039 --> 00:36:30,719
shops everywhere. If you drink, there's a brewery, there's the

722
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,119
best restaurants. Oh I heard those.

723
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: Really good museums too. I love a good museum.

724
00:36:36,119 --> 00:36:38,559
Speaker 1: See. I never want to hit the nerd ship, but yeah,

725
00:36:38,599 --> 00:36:40,440
there's some great musings up there.

726
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 2: I told you when I was a kid, I had

727
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,079
read books about mortgages. We're getting you don't think I

728
00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:46,039
love a good museum.

729
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,039
Speaker 1: We got to get back to this too, because you

730
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:51,159
are very funny too. And it is not ever my

731
00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:54,320
It's never been the thing I see where I go

732
00:36:54,519 --> 00:36:57,119
hot chick and then she turns out to be really

733
00:36:57,159 --> 00:36:59,960
funny and you are really funny and you're hot ship

734
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,400
and oh also she's a nerd, which normally is kind

735
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,119
of bullshit. Normally the hot girls who do cosplay and

736
00:37:06,159 --> 00:37:09,159
stuff are like, hey, I watched an episode of Star

737
00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:11,039
Wars episode seven. Once.

738
00:37:11,639 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 2: It's all just for a show, and then you're like

739
00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:17,639
or like Legos. Everybody's into Legos all of a sudden,

740
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,760
and I'm like, oh, really, what's block number two, story

741
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,840
four seven? Yeah, you don't know, do you like exactly?

742
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,920
So we have a pink Lego? No, they don't liars,

743
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:28,800
you don't know anything.

744
00:37:29,679 --> 00:37:31,599
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So I don't mean I don't I don't

745
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:33,599
mean this an insulting way. I have to ask, though,

746
00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:38,320
were you always an attractive person or did you glom

747
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,719
to the nerd stuff, because maybe you were like kind

748
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,679
of a weird girl and then like you grew up

749
00:37:42,679 --> 00:37:44,280
and got hot and everyone's like, oh my god, that

750
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,800
fucking girl that likes legos is hot now.

751
00:37:48,519 --> 00:37:50,599
Speaker 2: I would say it was a little mix of both.

752
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:56,360
I was definitely like the weirdo in school, like for sure,

753
00:37:56,679 --> 00:37:59,840
like the teacher's pet, like four point oh gpa, like

754
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,519
oh my god, okay, book Nerd. I was that type

755
00:38:02,519 --> 00:38:05,760
of kid in school. So I was always a little

756
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:10,280
bit of like the outcast. But I haven't really changed

757
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,320
too much how I look. I don't think like you

758
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,400
can look at photos on me earlier and like I

759
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,280
look a little bit different, but like pretty much the same.

760
00:38:18,559 --> 00:38:25,039
So I think I was just a weird mediocrely okay nerd.

761
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I think about however the universe creates

762
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,079
people and the soup that they drop in, and I

763
00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:36,960
think mine's mostly water with like a carrot in it,

764
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:41,480
and yours is this big, grand soup with creativity and

765
00:38:41,639 --> 00:38:45,599
beauty and intelligence. Four point zero. Dude, I had like

766
00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:49,039
a two point two in college and I went for film.

767
00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:51,079
Do you know how dumb you have to be to

768
00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:55,280
get that in college? A film?

769
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: You know? I'm sure you did great.

770
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: Uh well, I'm good. I'm good enough to be sitting

771
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,119
here talking to Kubby Thompson. Uh you said, hocus Pocus

772
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:08,400
second favorite movie of all time with.

773
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: Your favorite Jaws by car.

774
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: You just like, I mean, you won my wife over

775
00:39:14,639 --> 00:39:15,559
ten times over.

776
00:39:16,039 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 2: No, that's why I have sharp tattoos all over me,

777
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,039
Like I literally am covered in shark tattoos. And it's

778
00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:25,159
just because, like they're my favorite animal. I admire them

779
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,559
so much. I love the movie Jaws. I think it

780
00:39:27,639 --> 00:39:31,840
is a masterpiece. So yeah, I just for the greatest.

781
00:39:32,119 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: You know what you're not, though I don't. I'm read

782
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,880
I'm trying to read you here. You you have the

783
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:42,280
altish style, you have nerd culture. You're not a snake girl, though,

784
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,559
yeah I am. I have a no folks run. We

785
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:54,599
had a this one, this one will ruin your house. Okay, yeah, okay,

786
00:39:54,679 --> 00:39:57,400
all right. One time I was down the beach with

787
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,880
an ex girlfriend and I won this fucking it was

788
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:02,159
you could have a goldfish or a little lizard. I

789
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,679
had never owned a lizard before. I have no interest

790
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,760
in owning a lizard. So I chose the lizard and

791
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,239
we come home. So of course you chose the listener

792
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:16,079
none whatsoever, And I'm like, okay, it's five bucks to

793
00:40:16,119 --> 00:40:18,159
win this thing. Great, I'll take the lizard home. The

794
00:40:18,199 --> 00:40:21,400
lizard will eventually die and whatever. And then I felt bad.

795
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,719
I was like, oh, I can't just like let this

796
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,159
lizard die because I've never been animals or whatever. So

797
00:40:27,199 --> 00:40:28,960
I had to go out and spend like three hundred

798
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,760
dollars on this fucking full setup and had a lamp

799
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,360
on it. And this dumb lizard lived for like four years.

800
00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:39,599
Do you know how long those animals at the beach die?

801
00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:42,639
They're begging for death when they're in those little bags

802
00:40:42,639 --> 00:40:44,159
waiting to be picked up from the corner.

803
00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:46,199
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you know what kind of lizard it was?

804
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,159
It was in a knoll, h So it was like

805
00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:50,320
the little green ones, just.

806
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 1: A little guy, and it terrified the shit out of me.

807
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,440
And I had to feed it crickets, and I would

808
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,559
have to pick up the crickets by their legs with

809
00:40:57,639 --> 00:41:00,000
a tweezer and drop it in and then I.

810
00:41:00,639 --> 00:41:02,519
Speaker 2: You can also just pick them up with your hands.

811
00:41:02,639 --> 00:41:07,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you could do that. Sure, you could do that.

812
00:41:07,519 --> 00:41:11,079
That's true. You're becoming your house to deliver crickets to

813
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:12,119
your lizards, folks.

814
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,119
Speaker 2: But that's my next business venture after this adult world.

815
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,559
Forget the directing thing. I'm going to deliver in my hands.

816
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: What kind of lizard do you have?

817
00:41:24,199 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 2: I have a bearded dragon.

818
00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: Okay, see they're cute. They are kind of cute because

819
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,800
they're like creepy looking, but like when they run towards

820
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:35,360
you and stuff this, Yeah, they do that. Well that's

821
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:41,719
what I do, jazz hands. Huh. Okay, So what do

822
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,519
we have coming up in the future? Do you have

823
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,599
any type of scene or shoot coming up? You don't

824
00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:53,840
have to say names or whatever, but that you're so

825
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:54,880
so excited to do.

826
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,679
Speaker 2: I will give one a shout out because I've already

827
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:07,559
done it and the lightning is back. I've already shot

828
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:10,719
this video, but I think it's really going to be

829
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,639
one that people need to look out for. I shot

830
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:18,199
with Angela White and Kieren Lee, and it was Kieren

831
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,119
Lee's big brasser comeback in almost two years, so he

832
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:25,440
hasn't shot from them, so it was his big comeback video. Obviously,

833
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,199
it's Angela White, who was an icon, and then I

834
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,559
was thrown in that mix somehow, and so you know,

835
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,760
I definitely think it's the one that everybody should go

836
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,519
watch when it comes out. There's not a release date yet,

837
00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:38,599
but you better watch it for me. Better hype it up,

838
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:41,440
you do?

839
00:42:41,519 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: You just okay, I don't mean this in a rude

840
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,679
way at all. Do you just expect it now that

841
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,119
you'll have all because again your first offer, your first

842
00:42:50,119 --> 00:42:53,159
big thing or whatever, getting in brassers just throw away

843
00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:54,679
at whatever, just browsers.

844
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 2: Now they're like, Ferrari, do you.

845
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,119
Speaker 1: Want to be the comeback scene for Kiaren and to

846
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,960
work with just Angela White too? By the way, do

847
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,079
you are you expecting it now? Like if you showed

848
00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:06,880
up on set and some dude was just kind of

849
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,199
like average, would you just be like, all right, we'll

850
00:43:09,199 --> 00:43:09,800
get through this.

851
00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:14,519
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't expect anything in my life. I

852
00:43:14,559 --> 00:43:18,039
think you genuinely have to put your whole heart and

853
00:43:18,119 --> 00:43:20,920
soul into something and then you'll be rewarded. And so

854
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,360
I think that that is what is happening. Is I

855
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:29,199
am I got a small reward for my dedication and

856
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:34,719
passion to this industry. But I yeah, the grind isn't

857
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,280
going to stop because I think I am gonna just

858
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,519
get everything now Like no, definitely not. And it's exactly

859
00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:43,320
we're gonna go harder than ever.

860
00:43:45,519 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: Last question I have. I have two questions for you.

861
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,920
This one's a little more complicated and then just a

862
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:56,360
nice wrap up question. But are you nervous about AI

863
00:43:56,599 --> 00:44:01,639
at all? Because I thought also personal experience. That's what

864
00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:03,519
I had always heard. I don't want to talk to

865
00:44:03,559 --> 00:44:05,760
someone that looks like Kubby Thompson. I want to talk

866
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,639
to Kubby Thompson herself. But there was a new report

867
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,199
that came out that said only fans revenues for AI

868
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:17,000
models may surpass real models in twenty twenty six. Are

869
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,320
you terrified of AI? Do you see it as kind

870
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,159
of a benefit because some of the stuff they've been

871
00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:25,480
doing with like Sora and this and that is very interesting,

872
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:26,599
very very interesting.

873
00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, So my personal opinion on AI, I think

874
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,119
that it can be really helpful in so many ways.

875
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,639
I think there's so many ways that we really need

876
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,320
AI to make things better. But then I think there's

877
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,400
other ways like that where it's people having profiles that

878
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,519
are almost solely just AI based people and it's not

879
00:44:48,559 --> 00:44:51,000
even a real person. I think that can be very

880
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,000
harming and dangerous. I think people there's a lot of

881
00:44:55,039 --> 00:44:57,159
people that I've seen on Twitter even there's been like

882
00:44:57,199 --> 00:45:00,320
AI photos where like I look at it, like she

883
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,199
has seventeen toes, like, of course that's AI. But then

884
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,679
you'll look at the comments and there'll be tons of

885
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,800
people that won't know that it's AI, and so I

886
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,159
think it can be very dangerous. I think if it's

887
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,880
going to happen, there needs to be precautions put in

888
00:45:16,519 --> 00:45:21,280
place where the profile maybe look different or is different,

889
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:24,719
and that clearly states, hey, this is not a real person.

890
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,960
This is you know, like there needs to be like

891
00:45:27,039 --> 00:45:29,039
banners on things or something. There needs to be something

892
00:45:29,039 --> 00:45:32,280
that lets people know this is not and never will

893
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,920
be a real person type of thing. But I think

894
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,119
once precaution is like that can be made and then

895
00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:39,280
somebody can easily look at a profile and be like, oh,

896
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,440
this doesn't have the AI things all over, so this

897
00:45:41,519 --> 00:45:43,880
is a real person. Like, I think, once things like

898
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,239
that get put into place, it won't be as scary

899
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,239
of a thing. But I think right now, where we're

900
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,559
in this weird limbo stage with it, and some people

901
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:55,079
can tell, some people can't tell, I think that is

902
00:45:55,119 --> 00:45:58,199
where it can be a dangerous, scary and not good

903
00:45:58,199 --> 00:45:59,400
place that it's in right now.

904
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,039
Speaker 1: I really like it for it because I understand the

905
00:46:02,119 --> 00:46:05,760
argument that artists make too. You're taking things away from artists,

906
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,880
You're not giving the opportunity or the AI is drawling

907
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,760
from artists. Where I think it could be really beneficial.

908
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:16,360
Ease right there where I think it could be really beneficial.

909
00:46:16,599 --> 00:46:19,480
Is you shot your thing, you closed off that train station.

910
00:46:19,639 --> 00:46:21,360
What if we could just green screen that You're not

911
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,519
really hurting any artists, You're not doing anything, so background

912
00:46:24,559 --> 00:46:28,360
work I think would be great. Stuff you can't do,

913
00:46:28,519 --> 00:46:30,719
like if I have to fix my voice in something,

914
00:46:31,039 --> 00:46:34,760
AI can help with that. But I agree the scam

915
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,400
thing is just completely like your scumbag if you're doing

916
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,760
I get it. Last question, what's the endgame? Are you

917
00:46:43,079 --> 00:46:46,400
just gonna keep growing? I asked you before about mainstream,

918
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,840
but also it sounded like you kind of answered it

919
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,679
is endgame behind the camera for the next X amount

920
00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:55,400
of years. Or is porn which there is no problem

921
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,400
with this is porn a pit stop, not a pit

922
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,840
stop in a bad way, but a stop on a

923
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:01,400
more creative journey you're doing.

924
00:47:03,039 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 2: I definitely wouldn't say porn is a pit stop for me.

925
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:08,719
I definitely think it is something that has changed my life,

926
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,639
and so I would like to eventually do the same

927
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:15,480
and hopefully change the porn game a little bit, change

928
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,760
how things are shot or done, or like do new

929
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,639
interesting things that haven't been done yet. I would love

930
00:47:20,679 --> 00:47:24,800
to be the call maker for some of those things,

931
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,000
but I'm definitely not ready for that yet. I'm definitely

932
00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:30,400
loving being in front of the camera for right now.

933
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,079
I think this is where I want to be for

934
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,760
a bit longer, and then maybe like ten years down

935
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,679
the line and we can switch it up and then

936
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,400
you guys can start watching some of the movies that

937
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:40,960
I produce.

938
00:47:42,119 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: My guest tonight, Kubby Thompson. You know exactly where you

939
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,119
can find her at Cubby xoxo. Make sure you go

940
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:53,199
to the episode description, follow everywhere that's free, bare minimum.

941
00:47:53,559 --> 00:47:56,440
Go pay for what you are able to pay for.

942
00:47:57,039 --> 00:48:00,920
Don't put your family in you know, debt, because maybe

943
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,840
do it if that's kind of your thing. I don't know.

944
00:48:03,199 --> 00:48:06,239
I'm not gonna judge your relationship, but make sure you

945
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,320
support these people because if you don't support them, then

946
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,960
the AI takes over. Ladies and gentlemen. My guest tonight,

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Cobby Thompson. Cubby, thanks so much for coming on.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

