1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,879 Speaker 1: Imagine for a second that you are sitting in the 2 00:00:02,879 --> 00:00:07,080 pilot's seat of a small twin engine plane. Okay, you 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,160 have the yoke in your hands, right, and you can 4 00:00:09,199 --> 00:00:11,919 feel the vibration of the propellers. It's just humming right 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,199 through your seat, vibrating up through your arms. 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that classic steady mechanical rumble. 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: Exactly. And you are flying a route that you know, 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,239 I mean, you know it like the back of your hand. Right. 9 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:27,359 The sky is crystal clear, just endless blue. You glance 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,679 down at the mechanical watch on your wrist and it 11 00:00:29,839 --> 00:00:35,200 reads exactly three pm standard afternoon flight, totally standard. So 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,560 you take a breath, you look back up at the horizon, 13 00:00:37,679 --> 00:00:41,719 and suddenly the sky in front of you simply ceases 14 00:00:41,799 --> 00:00:43,960 to be clear, just out of nowhere, out of nowhere, 15 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,159 there's no transition. You are instantly swallowed by this sickly 16 00:00:47,679 --> 00:00:51,200 grayish yellow fog. Oh wow. Yeah. And there are sparks 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:56,039 of lightning, like intense, blinding, completely silent lightning, flashing on 18 00:00:56,119 --> 00:00:59,679 and off rapidly inside the cloud slighting that's terrifying. Right, 19 00:00:59,719 --> 00:01:01,719 And there's there's no rain, there's no storm cell on 20 00:01:01,759 --> 00:01:07,319 your radar, just this thick, suffocating electronic fog, and then 21 00:01:08,079 --> 00:01:12,799 you feel a sudden, jarring sense of weightlessness, this bizarre 22 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:17,079 hydroplaning sensation, like you're skimming over water. Exactly. It's as 23 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,439 if the gravity of the Earth just took a coffee break, 24 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,760 and your plane is skipping across the surface of a 25 00:01:21,799 --> 00:01:26,040 pond that is deep. And then, just as suddenly as 26 00:01:26,079 --> 00:01:30,519 it started, the fog violently clears. You look down, expecting 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,280 to see the deep, rolling blue of the open ocean, 28 00:01:33,359 --> 00:01:37,159 right naturally, yeah, but instead you see the sprawling concrete 29 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:42,599 coastline and towering skyscrapers of Miami Beach. Wait, Miami, Miami Beach. 30 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,640 You check your watch again. It's three o three pm. 31 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,159 Three minutes later, three minutes. You know for a fact, mathematically, geographically, 32 00:01:49,319 --> 00:01:52,680 undeniably that you have just traversed over one hundred miles 33 00:01:53,599 --> 00:01:54,400 in three. 34 00:01:54,239 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: Minutes, which is impossible for that aircraft. 35 00:01:56,239 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: Completely impossible. And just to add one final reality breaking 36 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,359 layer of impossibility to your afternoon, your watch, the one 37 00:02:03,439 --> 00:02:06,879 literally ticking away on your wrist, is now inexplicably twenty 38 00:02:06,879 --> 00:02:07,560 minutes behind. 39 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds like a manufactured cinematic sequence, right, 40 00:02:10,599 --> 00:02:11,639 like a sci fi movie. 41 00:02:11,719 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: It really does. 42 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: It sounds like a thought experiment designed to test the 43 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:19,840 limits of aeronautical physics. Right, but that exact scenario, I mean, 44 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,879 down to the specific grayish yellow hue of the fog 45 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,280 and the impossible reality bending mathematics of the time and 46 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,919 distance that is a recorded reality in aviation history. 47 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,039 Speaker 1: It is welcome to thrilling threads. We are so glad 48 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,800 you're here with us, sitting right in the middle of 49 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,039 this conversation. Absolutely, today we are laying out a very 50 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:43,360 specific mission. We are taking a massive stack of historical logs, 51 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:49,560 declassified military records, and jaw dropping pilot testimonies to unravel 52 00:02:49,599 --> 00:02:53,159 the mechanics of a five hundred thousand square mile stretch 53 00:02:53,199 --> 00:02:56,280 of the Atlantic Ocean, the Bermuda Triangle, the Bermuda Triangle, 54 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:57,719 And I feel like we need to just, you know, 55 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,520 discard the textbook definitions right away completely. 56 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: We all know the standard borders right Miami, Puerto. 57 00:03:03,039 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: Rico, Bermuda classic triangle shape exactly. 58 00:03:06,319 --> 00:03:09,599 Speaker 2: But the telemetry data we're looking at pushes the functional 59 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,479 boundary of this anomaly much much further out. Yeah, it's massive, 60 00:03:13,599 --> 00:03:15,680 and we need to be clear. We are not charting 61 00:03:15,719 --> 00:03:17,400 maritime true crime today. 62 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: No, definitely not. 63 00:03:18,479 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: We are looking at poor weather or navigational errors based 64 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,599 on the documentation in front of us. We are evaluating 65 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:29,520 the actual physics of altered space time, zero gravity environments, 66 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,680 and unexplained electromagnetic phenomena. 67 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,639 Speaker 1: Phenomena that just utterly dismantle human technology. 68 00:03:36,199 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: Right, completely scramble it. 69 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,159 Speaker 1: I mean, think about the most disorienting experience you've ever had, 70 00:03:41,199 --> 00:03:43,680 like getting lost in a neighborhood you grew up in, 71 00:03:43,719 --> 00:03:45,639 where the streets suddenly feel alien. 72 00:03:45,759 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that panicked feeling, right. 73 00:03:47,759 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: Your brain does that weird panic stutter step of confusion. 74 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,199 Now multiply that psychological pair by a thousand and place 75 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,680 yourself thousands of feet in the air over a churning, 76 00:03:57,919 --> 00:03:59,319 endless void of water. 77 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,639 Speaker 2: Literally means oblivion exactly. 78 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. And the scale of the data pool here is 79 00:04:05,199 --> 00:04:07,639 just what makes it impossible to ignore it really is. 80 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,599 Speaker 2: We are talking about a swath of open ocean larger 81 00:04:10,639 --> 00:04:13,560 than the combined land mass of France, Spain and Italy. 82 00:04:13,719 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: That is just huge, like incomprehensibly huge. 83 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,199 Speaker 2: But what's critical here is how we categorize the events 84 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,720 happening within that void. Because we have insights from researcher 85 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,560 Jion Quasar, who has extensively audited these disappearances. 86 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, his work is incredible, it is. 87 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,199 Speaker 2: And Quasar isolates a really crucial data point here, a 88 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,920 statistically impossible number of these disappearances are happening in pristine 89 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,199 fair weather. 90 00:04:40,079 --> 00:04:42,399 Speaker 1: Which goes against everything the skeptics say. 91 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,199 Speaker 2: Exactly, they exist in meticulous official military and maritime records. 92 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,279 And Quasar makes a brilliant philosophical distinction here too. 93 00:04:51,519 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: Right about the terminology, Yeah. 94 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: He argues, this isn't necessarily a supernatural phenomenon, it is 95 00:04:56,519 --> 00:04:58,040 an unexplained phenomenon. 96 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,439 Speaker 1: I love that distinction so much because it can compleetely 97 00:05:00,439 --> 00:05:04,879 reframes the argument. How so well, supernatural is a conversation ender, 98 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,319 you know, it implies ghosts or curses, things that operate 99 00:05:08,319 --> 00:05:11,519 outside the laws of the universe, right, like magic? Exactly 100 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,439 like magic, So why even bother studying it? If it's magic? 101 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,560 But unexplained is a provocation. It means our current models 102 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:23,000 of physics, our meteorology, our oceanography, they're simply inadequate. 103 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:24,959 Speaker 2: We just don't have the tools to measure it yet. 104 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 3: Right. 105 00:05:25,639 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: It means the mechanics are there, we just don't have 106 00:05:27,319 --> 00:05:28,279 the math to read them. 107 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,319 Speaker 2: Yet precisely, and the records demanding a new model of physics. 108 00:05:32,639 --> 00:05:34,480 They aren't a modern byproduct of the. 109 00:05:34,439 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: Aviation age, No, they go way back way back. 110 00:05:38,399 --> 00:05:41,759 Speaker 2: If we look at the historical timeline, the anomaly predates 111 00:05:41,759 --> 00:05:45,439 combustion engines and radar by centuries. 112 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: Which is wild to think about. 113 00:05:46,959 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 2: According to researcher Jason Martel, the awareness of this specific 114 00:05:50,759 --> 00:05:54,040 spatial glitch begins with Christopher Columbus. 115 00:05:54,319 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: The Christopher Columbus, the. 116 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: Very same Martel highlights the Columbus wasn't just a sailor, 117 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:05,000 an esoteric, highly educated navigator. His logs are historically renowned 118 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,040 for their extreme precision. He wasn't just guessing out there. 119 00:06:08,199 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: No, his logs are basically the gold standard of fifteenth 120 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,199 century telemetry. I mean he documented everything, everything, and his 121 00:06:15,399 --> 00:06:19,480 entries regarding the specific stretch of the Atlantic are frankly terrifying. 122 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 2: They really are. 123 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: Columbus writes that just as his fleet enters this specific 124 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:29,959 geographic pocket, his compasses start violently malfunctioning. The needles just drift, Yeah, 125 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,399 they just drift and spin. Then the following night he 126 00:06:33,439 --> 00:06:37,120 documents a massive fireball, literally crashing out of the sky 127 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,040 and plunging into the ocean. 128 00:06:38,759 --> 00:06:39,959 Speaker 2: Which what even is that? 129 00:06:40,439 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: A meteor who knows? He notes strange lights hovering above 130 00:06:44,639 --> 00:06:48,399 the water too, and he experiences what he distinctly describes 131 00:06:48,439 --> 00:06:50,959 as strange wet phenomena. 132 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 2: Strange wet phenomena. 133 00:06:52,399 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: I mean, what does that even mean in the middle 134 00:06:53,879 --> 00:06:56,120 of the ocean. The ocean is wet, right, But. 135 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 2: If we approach Columbus's logs purely as empirical data, the 136 00:07:00,399 --> 00:07:04,199 consistency of the telemetry issues is the smoking gun. 137 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: Here the compasses exactly. 138 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,759 Speaker 2: You have magnetic compasses. These are simple analog tools relying 139 00:07:09,839 --> 00:07:13,439 on loadstones, failing in the year fourteen ninety two. Fast 140 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:18,079 forward centuries later, and you have highly advanced digital aeronautical 141 00:07:18,079 --> 00:07:20,959 equipment failing in the exact same way at the exact 142 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,319 same coordinates. 143 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,639 Speaker 1: Which tells us so much. It does as it establishes 144 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,439 a stationary, permanent anomaly. It's not a passing solar flare, right, 145 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:34,199 It's a fixture of the Earth's environment, a permanent geographic feature. Basically, well, yeah, 146 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,439 it's like a massive invisible glitch in the Earth's operating 147 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,399 system that has been churning away since the dawn of 148 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:41,720 oceanic exploration. 149 00:07:42,279 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: But notice the shift in consequence over time. What do 150 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,879 you mean, Well, Columbus survived his. 151 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: Encounter, great, he made it too. 152 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,639 Speaker 2: His instruments went haywire. He witnessed atmospheric anomalies, but his 153 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,519 Wooden ship Flight nineteen, the disappearance of Flight nineteen. At 154 00:07:58,519 --> 00:08:01,319 this point in history, World War two has just concluded. 155 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,600 The United States military is at the absolute peak of 156 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,759 its operational and logistical prowess. 157 00:08:08,839 --> 00:08:11,399 Speaker 1: They are an absolute machine at this point completely. 158 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: At two PM, five US Navy torpedo bombers, the TBM Avengers, 159 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,319 take off from Fort Lauderdale for routine training exercise. 160 00:08:21,439 --> 00:08:23,279 Speaker 1: And we should mention these are not fragile. 161 00:08:22,959 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: Aircraft, not at all. These are heavily armored machines designed 162 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,160 to survive heavy combat over the Pacific. 163 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: Right. They can take a beating, and. 164 00:08:30,639 --> 00:08:33,159 Speaker 2: They are flown by highly skilled crews. 165 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: But roughly an hour and a half into the flight, 166 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,440 the situation degrades rapidly. 167 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it falls apart fast. 168 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: The squadron leader, Lieutenant Charles Taylor, radio's back to base, 169 00:08:42,639 --> 00:08:46,919 reporting that both of his onboard compasses have become completely inoperable. 170 00:08:47,039 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: Both of them both, and it. 171 00:08:48,639 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: Wasn't just him. The entire squadron gets hopelessly disoriented in 172 00:08:52,399 --> 00:08:54,759 an area they had flown countless. 173 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 2: Times, right off the coast of Florida. 174 00:08:55,799 --> 00:08:59,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, the radio transmissions descend into this eerie, crackling static 175 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,120 and then they simply vanish. This has gone. 176 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: Five heavily armored military aircraft erased from the sky. 177 00:09:08,039 --> 00:09:12,279 Speaker 1: And the military's immediate response was a massive, unprecedented search 178 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:17,720 and rescue operation. Naturally, they deployed a Tby Mariner aircraft. Now, 179 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,240 this was a flying boat, essentially a massive, fully equipped 180 00:09:21,279 --> 00:09:24,840 airborne search and rescue platform with an eleven man crew. Right, 181 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,279 its sole purpose was to find people in the water. 182 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,519 Speaker 2: That's what it was built for. 183 00:09:29,759 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: Exactly three hours after it launched to retrace Flight nineteen's path, 184 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,159 the Mariner, along with its eleven crew members, also vanished. 185 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,159 Also vanished without a single trace. 186 00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:41,519 Speaker 2: I really need to pause here and just hammer this 187 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,639 point home, because the skeptic always defaults to the same document. 188 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,519 Speaker 1: Right, they say, oh, they got lost, they ran out 189 00:09:47,519 --> 00:09:48,960 of fuel, they crashed into the ocean. 190 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,799 Speaker 2: It's a big ocean, exactly. But let's actually look at 191 00:09:51,799 --> 00:09:54,519 the physical mechanics of an ocean crash. Okay, when a 192 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,840 massive aircraft hits the water, even in a vertical nose dive, 193 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,840 it does not cleanly slip beneath the surface like a needle. 194 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: No, of course not. The sheer kinetic energy of a 195 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,320 multi ton bomber hitting water at hundreds of miles an hour, 196 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,879 it acts like hitting a solid brick wall. The air 197 00:10:10,919 --> 00:10:12,039 crash shatters. Right. 198 00:10:12,159 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: The physics of an impact guarantee a debris field. 199 00:10:15,039 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: Every single time. 200 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,159 Speaker 2: Aviation fuel is less dense than saltwater, so it floats, 201 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:24,279 creating massive, highly visible oil slicks. Seat cushions are buoyant. 202 00:10:24,919 --> 00:10:28,080 Life preservers are designed specifically to remain on the surface. 203 00:10:28,159 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: That's their entire job, exactly. 204 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: The United States Navy scoured hundreds of thousands of square 205 00:10:33,279 --> 00:10:37,720 miles of ocean over weeks. They found absolutely zero debris, none, 206 00:10:38,039 --> 00:10:40,440 no oil, no life rafts, nothing. 207 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: So how does a massive rescue plane actively looking for 208 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,039 danger simply disappear. We are looking for a mechanism that 209 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,919 deletes a plane without a trace, elits it. Yeah, you 210 00:10:50,919 --> 00:10:52,559 don't get that from a storm. You don't get that 211 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,399 from a mechanical failure. No, you don't. 212 00:10:54,759 --> 00:10:58,279 Speaker 2: The complete and total absence of physical remnants points directly 213 00:10:58,279 --> 00:11:01,360 away from a kinetic impact event, right, it points toward 214 00:11:01,399 --> 00:11:05,279 an instantaneous spatial event. It suggests they didn't crash into 215 00:11:05,279 --> 00:11:09,000 the ocean. It suggests they were removed from that airspace, entirely. 216 00:11:08,919 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 3: Removed, just plucked out, and all we are left with 217 00:11:12,399 --> 00:11:15,240 is the radio static. Yeah, but what if we didn't 218 00:11:15,279 --> 00:11:17,840 have to rely on static? What if we had the 219 00:11:17,879 --> 00:11:20,279 telemetry of a plane that went through the exact same 220 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:23,399 instantaneous spatial event but the pilot managed to keep the 221 00:11:23,399 --> 00:11:25,080 aircraft together and report back. 222 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: Which brings us to nineteen seventy exactly, that is what 223 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,200 brings us to the testimony of pilot Bruce Gernon. In 224 00:11:31,279 --> 00:11:35,399 nineteen seventy, Gernon, who was an incredibly experienced aviator, was 225 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,960 flying a beachcraft. 226 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 2: Bonanza, so is small civilian aircraft. 227 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: Right, a small propeller plane. He's flying with his father 228 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,840 and a business partner. They are flying from Andros Island 229 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,200 in the Bahamas back to Palm Beach, Florida. It's mid afternoon, 230 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,480 clear skies, standard flight, perfect conditions, but as he reaches 231 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,440 an altitude of roughly one thousand feet, he encounters an 232 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,759 atmospheric anomaly that begins exactly like Columbus is strange wet phenomenon. 233 00:12:01,879 --> 00:12:05,799 Speaker 2: He sees a strange cloud hovering directly in his flight path. Yeah, 234 00:12:05,879 --> 00:12:09,960 and he specifically describes it as a lenticular shaped cloud. Now, 235 00:12:10,039 --> 00:12:14,039 lenticular clouds usually form over mountains due to wind sheer right, 236 00:12:14,039 --> 00:12:15,720 they look like flying saucers. 237 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: Exactly, so finding one hovering completely stationer over the flat 238 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,879 expanse of the ocean is physically incongruous. It makes no sense, 239 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,840 not at all. And as he approaches, this cloud rapidly 240 00:12:26,919 --> 00:12:29,320 expands completely, engulfing. 241 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 2: The aircraft and inside the cloud, the environment shifts dramatically. 242 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: It gets weird. 243 00:12:33,159 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: Visibility drops to zero, but it isn't dark like a 244 00:12:36,159 --> 00:12:36,919 typical storm. 245 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:37,399 Speaker 1: Cell No. 246 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: Gerdon describes being surrounded by an electronic fog that emits 247 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,120 a sickly grayish yellow hue. 248 00:12:44,799 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: Just like you were describing at the start. 249 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,279 Speaker 2: Exactly, And there are intense flashes of lightning occurring inside 250 00:12:50,279 --> 00:12:53,639 the fog, but without any thunder or rain, It's just silent. 251 00:12:53,879 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: His instruments instantly fail. The compass spins wildly, just like Columbus. 252 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,279 Speaker 2: The exact same telemetry failure. 253 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,159 Speaker 1: But then the structure of the cloud itself begins to organize. 254 00:13:03,399 --> 00:13:07,879 Gernon reports that the fog formed a massive tunnel, a vortex. 255 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: A literal tunnel in the sky. 256 00:13:08,919 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, he estimated it was about a mile wide and 257 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,360 ten miles long, and the walls were made of these 258 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:19,480 swirling lines and clouds rotating slowly counterclockwise counterclockwise. He said, 259 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,679 it was like looking down the barrel of a massive 260 00:13:21,759 --> 00:13:23,080 atmospheric rifle. 261 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 2: And a counterclockwise rotation is highly significant here. Why is 262 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,960 that because in the northern hemisphere, low pressure systems and 263 00:13:32,039 --> 00:13:37,240 hurricanes rotate counterclockwise due to the Coriolis effect. Oh right, 264 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,440 so it mimics natural weather patterns on a macro scale. However, 265 00:13:41,639 --> 00:13:46,320 the internal mechanics of this vortex defied standard meteorology, totally 266 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,600 defied it. As Gernon pushes the plane through this tunnel 267 00:13:49,879 --> 00:13:53,480 rather than turning back into the blinding fog, he experiences 268 00:13:53,519 --> 00:13:56,519 a physical sensation that violates aerodynamics. 269 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,399 Speaker 1: He describes a profound feeling of zero gravity in a 270 00:14:00,399 --> 00:14:03,519 beach craft. Yeah, he said. It felt like they were hydroplanning. 271 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,679 They weren't flying. They were being carried swept along by 272 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,200 the space itself. And then they burst out the other side. 273 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: They make it through. 274 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,919 Speaker 1: Gernon looks back and he watches this massive mile wide 275 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,559 tunnel just collapse in on itself, shrinking away at nothing, 276 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,960 just evaporates. He immediately radios Miami air Traffic Control, but 277 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,559 the controller can't find Gurnon's plane on the radar, where 278 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,519 he should be over the ocean right instead. A few 279 00:14:28,519 --> 00:14:32,759 minutes later, the controller comes back on completely frantic. He says, 280 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,440 I have an airplane directly over Miami Beach, over the city, 281 00:14:36,519 --> 00:14:37,279 over the city. 282 00:14:37,519 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: And Gernon's immediate reaction. 283 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: Is denial, because it's impossible. 284 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,759 Speaker 2: He knows his speed, he knows his fuel burn and 285 00:14:44,799 --> 00:14:47,840 he knows he should be eighty miles east of Miami right. 286 00:14:47,919 --> 00:14:51,759 But he looks down and there is the unmistakable urban 287 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,240 grid of Miami Beach. 288 00:14:53,399 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: Let's do the math on this, because this is where 289 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,559 the mechanics of the event become absolutely undeniable. Okay, let's 290 00:14:58,559 --> 00:15:01,639 break it down. Gernon had travel one hundred miles, but 291 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,039 he had done it in three minutes and twenty seconds. 292 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,320 To travel one hundred miles in three minutes, Bruce Gernon's 293 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,159 propeller driven beachcraft would have had to be traveling at 294 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,639 roughly two thousand miles per hour two thousand, that is 295 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:15,960 mocked two point six. 296 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: To put that in perspective, the SR seventy one Blackbird, 297 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,480 a titanium huled military spyplane, flies at those. 298 00:15:23,399 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: Speeds, right, a billion dollar military jet. 299 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:30,919 Speaker 2: If a civilian beachcraft Bonanza constructed of lightweight aluminum, attempted 300 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,480 to hit mock two point six, the aerodynamic stress would 301 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,600 instantly shear the wings off the fuselage. 302 00:15:36,679 --> 00:15:38,759 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, the aircraft. 303 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,279 Speaker 2: Would disintegrate into confetti due to the sheer friction and 304 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:41,960 air pressure. 305 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,759 Speaker 1: But inside the cabin, Grennan and his passengers didn't feel 306 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,759 intense g forces. No, they didn't feel the violent shockwave 307 00:15:49,879 --> 00:15:54,320 of breaking the sound barrier. Why because subjectively they weren't 308 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:55,000 flying faster. 309 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: It didn't accelerate. 310 00:15:56,159 --> 00:15:58,639 Speaker 1: And the proof that is the most chilling detail of all, 311 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,759 when they checked their watches after arriving over Miami, all 312 00:16:01,799 --> 00:16:04,039 of their watches were exactly twenty minutes. 313 00:16:03,799 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: Behind, exactly twenty minutes, and the commentator Henry analyzing this case, 314 00:16:08,759 --> 00:16:12,720 points to the undeniable conclusion that Gernon experienced a literal 315 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,320 time shift, a time shift, he entered an anomalous vortext 316 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,759 that functioned as a localized time portal, a manipulation of 317 00:16:19,759 --> 00:16:20,679 space time itself. 318 00:16:20,799 --> 00:16:23,039 Speaker 1: The only way I can conceptualize this without my brain 319 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,559 breaking is the moving walkway analogy at an airport. Oh, 320 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,240 I like that, right. If you are strolling along a 321 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,720 moving walkway, your physical speed, the effort your legs are 322 00:16:34,759 --> 00:16:37,279 exerting is completely normal. To you. 323 00:16:37,279 --> 00:16:38,039 Speaker 2: You're just walking. 324 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: You weren't sprinting. But to someone standing still off to 325 00:16:41,679 --> 00:16:45,399 the side looking at you, you were zooming past them exactly. 326 00:16:45,759 --> 00:16:50,279 Gernon's plane didn't fly two thousand miles per hour space itself. 327 00:16:50,799 --> 00:16:53,080 The walkway moved him. He wrote a fold in the 328 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,120 fabric of reality. 329 00:16:54,440 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: That analogy perfectly illustrates the difference between propulsion and spatial manipulation. Yeah, 330 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,080 and what's fascinating is that this spatial fold leaves a 331 00:17:03,159 --> 00:17:04,039 lingering footprint. 332 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: Wait, what do you mean? 333 00:17:05,079 --> 00:17:08,559 Speaker 2: Decades later, Gernon and the author David Childress took a 334 00:17:08,599 --> 00:17:11,920 plane back to the exact coordinates at the exact altitude 335 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,200 of one thousand feet to retrace the flight path. Okay, 336 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:20,160 Suddenly the plane was violently struck by unexplained localized turbulence. Really, 337 00:17:20,799 --> 00:17:23,440 the pilot actually had to wrestle the yoke, shouting over 338 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,000 the radio that the plane was out of control before 339 00:17:26,039 --> 00:17:27,079 suddenly breaking clear. 340 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,559 Speaker 1: It's as if the scar tissue of that vortex was 341 00:17:29,599 --> 00:17:32,480 still sitting there in the atmosphere, the scar tissue exactly. 342 00:17:32,799 --> 00:17:36,400 Gernon genuinely believes that on that day in nineteen seventy 343 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,960 he saw the fundamental threads of reality pull. 344 00:17:39,799 --> 00:17:41,079 Speaker 2: Apart and survive it. 345 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,279 Speaker 1: But here is where I have to push back a 346 00:17:43,279 --> 00:17:45,799 little bit. Okay, going, we can't just throw around the 347 00:17:45,839 --> 00:17:48,519 phrase time portal and act like we've solved it. You know, 348 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,960 at that point we need to explain how the universe 349 00:17:51,039 --> 00:17:53,559 allows a time portal to exist in the middle of 350 00:17:53,599 --> 00:17:55,279 a commercial flight path. 351 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: Well, if we move from subjective human experience to theoretical physics, 352 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,240 our sources point us directly toward Albert Einstein's general theory 353 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:04,839 of relativity. 354 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about Einstein. 355 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,799 Speaker 2: Einstein fundamentally altered our understanding of the universe by proving 356 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,720 that space and time are not a static, rigid stage 357 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:15,839 where events happen. 358 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: Right, They aren't a fixed box. 359 00:18:17,519 --> 00:18:20,279 Speaker 2: They are a flexible fabric space time. 360 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: Right, and we know that massive objects like stars or 361 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,759 planets warp that fabric with gravity. That's well established, that's 362 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:29,519 classic relativity. But there are no black holes sitting off 363 00:18:29,519 --> 00:18:32,240 the coast of Florida. So how does an electronic fog 364 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:33,319 bend space? 365 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:38,319 Speaker 2: It comes under the relationship between extreme electromagnetic fields and 366 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,319 gravity electromagnetism. 367 00:18:40,519 --> 00:18:40,759 Speaker 3: Right. 368 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: While a complete unified field theory linking electromagnetism directly to 369 00:18:44,759 --> 00:18:49,920 gravity remained Einstein's unfinished work, modern physics acknowledges that immense 370 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:54,000 concentrations of energy can theoretically warp space time just as 371 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:54,640 mass does. 372 00:18:54,799 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: Oh interesting. 373 00:18:55,839 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: The theory proposed by Jason Martel suggests that the Bermuda 374 00:18:59,279 --> 00:19:04,559 Triangle operates as an extraordinarily potent electromagnetic hotspot. A hotspot 375 00:19:04,599 --> 00:19:08,400 a localized area where the Earth's energy field creates immense 376 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,200 unstable charges, and. 377 00:19:10,079 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: Martell takes a massive leap here, which I find fascinating 378 00:19:13,279 --> 00:19:18,200 he does. He suggests that extraterrestrial craft advanced Unidentified anomalous 379 00:19:18,279 --> 00:19:23,759 phenomena or UAPs might be purposely utilizing these localized high 380 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,240 energy hotspots, purposely using them yeah to achieve what we 381 00:19:27,279 --> 00:19:28,640 casually call warp speed. 382 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,839 Speaker 2: His hypothesis addresses the impossible flight dynamics we constantly observe 383 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,039 with UAPs. 384 00:19:33,599 --> 00:19:34,839 Speaker 1: Because they don't fly it normally. 385 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,319 Speaker 2: Right, they don't use standard aerodynamics wings or exhaust propulsion. 386 00:19:38,319 --> 00:19:42,519 There's no thrust exactly. They are theoretically harnessing extreme energy 387 00:19:42,519 --> 00:19:47,359 particles in areas like the triangle to create localized gravity wells. 388 00:19:47,799 --> 00:19:48,559 Speaker 1: Folding space. 389 00:19:48,759 --> 00:19:51,799 Speaker 2: Yes, they're folding the space in front of them, effectively 390 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,039 falling into a portal of their own making, which allows 391 00:19:55,079 --> 00:19:58,400 them to traverse immense distances instantaneously. 392 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, I have to challenge this. Go for 393 00:20:00,839 --> 00:20:06,920 you're jumping from naturally occurring magnetic anomaly to alien interdimensional 394 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:07,960 highway rest stop. 395 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 2: It is jump. 396 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: That is a colossal leap. If this is a deliberate 397 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:17,400 transit system used by extraterrestrials, why aren't our modern satellites 398 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,559 picking up the entry and exit signatures? 399 00:20:19,759 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: That's a great question. 400 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: Why rely on a messy visible electronic fog. 401 00:20:24,599 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 2: Well, the lack of conventional satellite detection might precisely be 402 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:33,279 because our satellites are calibrated to look for standard thermodynamic exhaust, 403 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:34,720 not spatial distortion. 404 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: Well, because we're looking for heat signatures. 405 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 2: Exactly, we're looking for rockets. The electronic fog Girnin witnessed 406 00:20:41,519 --> 00:20:43,720 might not be exhaust It might be the byproduct of 407 00:20:43,799 --> 00:20:46,799 space time tearing like friction. Think of it like water 408 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,440 displaced by a submarine. You don't see the submarine, but 409 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,079 you see the violent froth on the surface. 410 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:51,279 Speaker 3: Oh. 411 00:20:51,319 --> 00:20:52,559 Speaker 1: I love that analogy. 412 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,759 Speaker 2: And to your point about whether this is an alien highway, 413 00:20:56,039 --> 00:20:57,519 we have to ask a deeper question. 414 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:58,039 Speaker 1: What's that? 415 00:20:58,799 --> 00:21:03,799 Speaker 2: Are these portals a natural freak, geological occurrence of Earth's 416 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:08,440 magnetic field that advanced civilizations simply take advantage of, like 417 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:13,000 writing a natural ocean current, or are these portals artificially 418 00:21:13,039 --> 00:21:14,839 generated by ancient technology? 419 00:21:15,039 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: Okay, if it's artificial, then who built the generator? Because 420 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,359 if you're an advanced civilization trying to traverse the cosmos, 421 00:21:22,759 --> 00:21:24,799 you wouldn't just fly in a straight line through the 422 00:21:24,839 --> 00:21:28,119 empty void would take too long. You chart your course 423 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,720 specifically through areas of natural high energy to slingshot yourself 424 00:21:32,759 --> 00:21:36,480 across the universe, like skipping stones. Exactly. So are you 425 00:21:36,559 --> 00:21:39,519 suggesting Earth just happens to have a massive on ramp 426 00:21:39,599 --> 00:21:42,480 located right off the coast of Florida, or did someone 427 00:21:42,519 --> 00:21:43,920 actually build the on ramp. 428 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 2: That specific question forces us to pivot completely. Okay, we've 429 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,359 been looking up at the sky, analyzing atmospheric clouds and 430 00:21:51,519 --> 00:21:55,960 UAP flight dynamics, but the historical sources suggest the source 431 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,680 of this immense reality bending energy isn't coming. 432 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: From the appam. Where's it coming from? 433 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,559 Speaker 2: It's coming from directly below the ocean floor. 434 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: Okay. I have to admit, when I was reviewing our 435 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,359 stack of sources for this, this thematic pivot made me 436 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:10,400 highly skeptical. 437 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: It's a big shift. 438 00:22:11,799 --> 00:22:16,559 Speaker 1: We're moving from twentieth century aviation logs to a legend 439 00:22:16,599 --> 00:22:19,680 that predates our modern understanding of history entirely. 440 00:22:19,799 --> 00:22:21,799 Speaker 2: We are talking about the lost city of Atlantis. 441 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: Atlantis. Plato wrote about Atlantis around three sixty BC, describing 442 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,960 an island civilization dating back to ninety six hundred PC. Right, 443 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,880 but Plato was a philosopher writing political allegories about Hubris. 444 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,559 How can we treat Atlantis as a physical variable in 445 00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:38,720 the Bermuda triangle? 446 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,079 Speaker 2: It requires looking at Plato's text not just as an allegory, 447 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,839 but as the transmission of older, potentially factual. 448 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: Oral histories. Okay, taking it literally, Plato. 449 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,079 Speaker 2: Described Atlantis not just as a wealthy empire, but as 450 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,119 a technological marvel that possessed an ancient power, a level 451 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,880 of civilizational advancement completely out of step with the Bronze. 452 00:22:58,519 --> 00:23:00,839 Speaker 1: Age, advanced technology and Rusually. 453 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: The text states that an unknown cataclysm struck and the 454 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,920 entire island civilization was destroyed in a single day and 455 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,960 a night, a single day, vanishing beneath the waves. 456 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: Okay, let's say, for the sake of argument, that a 457 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:18,039 highly advanced civilization did exist and sank. Sure, ancient astronaut 458 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:22,599 theorists and researchers point to a striking geographical correlation here 459 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,519 they do. They suggest the ruins of this technologically advanced 460 00:23:26,519 --> 00:23:30,200 empire lied directly below the waters of the Bermuda and 461 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,480 Bimini Islands, right in the zone which places it dead 462 00:23:33,599 --> 00:23:35,480 center in the Bermuda triangle. 463 00:23:35,759 --> 00:23:38,319 Speaker 2: If we map the location of the Bimini Road, the 464 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,799 underwater rock formation discovered in the nineteen sixties, the many 465 00:23:41,839 --> 00:23:45,599 claim are the ruins of Atlantis. It aligns perfectly with 466 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,920 the epicenter of these electromagnetic anomalies. 467 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: Perfectly aligned. 468 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,039 Speaker 2: The theory posits, what if the ancient power source of 469 00:23:53,079 --> 00:23:57,240 Atlantis wasn't destroyed. Wait, what if a massive city sized 470 00:23:57,279 --> 00:24:00,599 technological engine sank to the bottom of the ocean and 471 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,519 was never turned off. 472 00:24:01,559 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: It's like a massive damaged nuclear reactor left running at 473 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,440 the bottom of the ocean. 474 00:24:06,079 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 2: Exactly like that. 475 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: It's compromised, so it's randomly throwing off massive energy spikes, 476 00:24:11,519 --> 00:24:15,400 electromagnetic sparks that shoot up through miles of water. Yes, 477 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,440 sparks that scramble the loadstone compass of a fifteenth century 478 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,839 wooden ship and completely fry the avionics of twentieth century 479 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:24,759 navy bombers. 480 00:24:24,839 --> 00:24:27,519 Speaker 2: And that actually provides a mechanical explanation for why the 481 00:24:27,559 --> 00:24:28,799 anomaly is stationary. 482 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: It does. 483 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 2: The logic holds together fascinatingly well when you connect the 484 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,640 historical texts to the modern telempatry data. 485 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: It really does. 486 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: We know that extreme pressure and salt water interact with 487 00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:45,240 electromagnetic fields. If an active ancient power source is trapped 488 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,119 beneath the seabed throwing off erratic pulses, it provides a 489 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,519 terrestrial explanation for the space time warping that Bruce Grinnan experienced. 490 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,319 Speaker 1: But the sources push this even further, and this connects 491 00:24:56,319 --> 00:24:58,519 back to flight nineteen in a way that just gives 492 00:24:58,559 --> 00:25:03,039 me chills. Also, the Atlantis legend explicitly states the civilization 493 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,119 vanished in a single day and a night, right overnight. 494 00:25:06,279 --> 00:25:11,079 Millions of people, an entire advanced infrastructure just gone. The 495 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,519 sources raise the mass subduction or dimensional shift theory. Okay, 496 00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:17,200 I follow you. What if the cataclysm wasn't a flood? 497 00:25:17,799 --> 00:25:20,880 What if the sinking of Atlantis was actually the activation 498 00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:24,200 of a massive civilization wide portal. 499 00:25:24,559 --> 00:25:27,759 Speaker 2: If we apply that framework, the parallels are undeniable. Right, 500 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,240 Atlantis disappears in a single day without leaving a trace 501 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,640 of its population. Yeah, Flight nineteen disappears in a single 502 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,640 instant without leaving a single life preserver, seat cushion, or drop. 503 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,279 Speaker 1: Of oil, no debris field. 504 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 2: Are they victims of the exact same vortex phenomenon? 505 00:25:45,079 --> 00:25:45,799 Speaker 1: That's the question. 506 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 2: The energy might not be pulling these planes up into 507 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,440 the sky. It could be pulling them down underneath the water, 508 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,720 into whatever dimensional rift exists below the sea bed. 509 00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: It really exposes the absolute limits of our oceanic exploration. 510 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,039 You know, you hear the cliche all the time that 511 00:26:02,079 --> 00:26:04,440 we have mapped the surface of the Moon better than 512 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:05,920 we have macked our own seafloor. 513 00:26:06,319 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: But it's physically true. 514 00:26:07,519 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: It is. The ocean is incredibly deep, completely lightless, and 515 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:16,319 the crushing atmospheric pressure makes it intensely hostile to human exploration. 516 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: It's harder to get to the bottom of the ocean 517 00:26:18,039 --> 00:26:18,799 than into space. 518 00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:23,559 Speaker 1: Absolutely so the idea that the remnants of a sunken 519 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,799 civilization's reality bending technology is hiding down there, just waiting, yeah, 520 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,119 occasionally burping up a time warping storm cloud that catches 521 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,799 a passing CESSNA. I mean, it is entirely plausible within 522 00:26:35,839 --> 00:26:37,480 the parameters of the data we've analyzed. 523 00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: Today, When we pull all these threads together, a remarkably 524 00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:44,279 consistent picture emerges from all this chaos. 525 00:26:44,319 --> 00:26:45,039 Speaker 1: It really does. 526 00:26:45,519 --> 00:26:50,319 Speaker 2: We have Christopher Columbus documenting compass failures and glowing aquatic 527 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,079 phenomena in fourteen ninety two, check we have five Navy 528 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,680 Avenger bombers instantaneously erased from reality, leaving no kegic debris field. 529 00:26:58,759 --> 00:27:02,200 In nineteen forty five, we have Bruce Gernon flying through 530 00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:06,480 a counterclockwise highly charged vortex, effectively skipping over one hundred 531 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,000 miles of space in twenty minutes of time. 532 00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:10,039 Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy and love to tell the tale. 533 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 2: And anchoring all of this, we have the enduring historical 534 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:18,440 footprint of its sunken technological marvel resting directly beneath the anomaly. 535 00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: It forces a complete paradigm shift. It has to whether 536 00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:25,799 you conclude that the Bermuda Triangle is a terrifying, naturally 537 00:27:25,839 --> 00:27:31,039 occurring electromagnetic hazard produced by Earth's unique geology, or an 538 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,839 extraterrestrial transit system utilizing natural high energy on ramps, or. 539 00:27:35,799 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 2: The watery tomb of an Atlantean engine still hunting. 540 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,799 Speaker 1: In the dark exactly. The triangle represents the absolute edge 541 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,960 of human understanding, the boundary. It is the boundary line 542 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,319 where our math stops working, where our compass needles spin uselessly, 543 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,160 and where the reassuring safety of physical reality just drops 544 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,240 off into the unknown. 545 00:27:56,599 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 2: It demands that we acknowledge a profound truth here. What's 546 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,680 that the universe is far more malleable than our daily, 547 00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:06,160 grounded lives suggest valuable. The rigidity of time and space 548 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,200 that we rely on to set our watches and navigate 549 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,200 our roads is in certain places and under certain extreme 550 00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:14,039 energetic conditions, surprisingly. 551 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: Fragile, which leaves me with one final deeply unsettling thought 552 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:19,400 for you. Okay, lee on me a concept to carry 553 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:20,880 with you the next time you look up at a 554 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:26,200 strangely shaped cloud. If these energy vortexes, these spatial tears 555 00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:29,440 and time portals are capable of opening up out of 556 00:28:29,519 --> 00:28:33,440 thin air and then violently collapsing back in on themselves. 557 00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 2: Like Bruce Gernon watched that mile wide tunnel collapse behind 558 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:36,920 his plane. 559 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,759 Speaker 1: Exactly what exactly dictates where they open? 560 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:40,599 Speaker 2: Oh wow? 561 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,359 Speaker 1: Right now? We associate this phenomenon with the vast empty 562 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,599 isolation of the Atlantic Ocean. 563 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,799 Speaker 2: Because that's where it's happening. 564 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: But if the fabric of space time can tear over 565 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,920 the water, what is stopping a portal like that from 566 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,799 suddenly manifesting over a populated. 567 00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: Land mask That is terrifying. 568 00:28:57,079 --> 00:29:00,559 Speaker 1: Could the grayish yellow fog with its silent internal lightning 569 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,799 suddenly descend over a crowded city skyline. 570 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: Just swallow a building. 571 00:29:05,359 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: Or engulf a busy interstate highway during rush hour? 572 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,519 Speaker 2: That remains the ultimate unknown variable here. Yeah, if the 573 00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:15,000 mechanism generating these portals is portable, or if the Earth's 574 00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:19,000 magnetic grid shifts, the boundaries of the anomaly might not 575 00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:21,440 be as comfortably fixed off the coast of Florida as 576 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:21,839 we hope. 577 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: So we turn the investigation over to you. Where do 578 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:24,759 you stand on this? 579 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 2: We really want to know. 580 00:29:26,319 --> 00:29:31,559 Speaker 1: Is the Bermuda Triangle just a natural, albeit terrifying electromagnetic 581 00:29:31,599 --> 00:29:35,359 hazard of our planet that creates atmospheric illusions. 582 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 2: Or are planes, ships and sailors unwittingly stumbling into an 583 00:29:39,759 --> 00:29:41,880 ancient extraterrestrial transit system. 584 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: We want to hear your analysis. Leave a comment with 585 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,599 your thoughts, your theories, or even your own experiences with 586 00:29:46,759 --> 00:29:49,839 missing time or unexplainable spatial anomalies. 587 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,119 Speaker 2: Have you ever lost time? Let us know. 588 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,319 Speaker 1: Keep pulling on those thrilling threads, and remember, the next 589 00:29:56,319 --> 00:29:58,279 time you check your watch and the time seems just 590 00:29:58,359 --> 00:30:00,519 a little bit off, maybe you just need to wind it. 591 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,319 Or maybe, just maybe you've taken a tiny step onto 592 00:30:03,319 --> 00:30:05,279 the moving walkway of altered reality.