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<v Speaker 1>It's the Ben and Skin Show ninety seven point one

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<v Speaker 1>The Eagle. One of the things that we have been

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<v Speaker 1>tracking incredibly closely is this zebra story. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mean the Chris Arnold fuel Fuel City zebra. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the one that's running around in the wild. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>in Tennessee? Where is that thing Kevin called the Ridge Mountain?

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<v Speaker 1>What's it called, Murphysboro, Tennessee. Murphy's bro called the city Hall.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got resolution on that and we're gonna get to

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<v Speaker 1>it here in about eighteen minutes or so.

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<v Speaker 2>But right now it's time for this.

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<v Speaker 3>Mountains around the sports k t queints as all the

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<v Speaker 3>sports huge softball game tonight, the College World Series softball game. Fine,

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<v Speaker 3>oh we're not doing that, Okay. Game one of the

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<v Speaker 3>NBA Finals last night. It is actually good Texas and

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<v Speaker 3>Texas Tech. Texas Tech just gave their pitcher who's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>pitt for the third night in the Road to Night,

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<v Speaker 3>another seven digit in IL deal for next year. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>So she's kind of it is kind of interesting. Patrick

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<v Speaker 3>Mahomes is there and not a stuff who cares? So

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<v Speaker 3>NBA Finals got kicked olf last night, yep, and it

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<v Speaker 3>went off and you know, I was at halftime kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a little boards as a little nervous, as kind

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<v Speaker 3>of how the series is going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>But we should have known by now.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't you sleep on the Indianapolis Pacers.

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<v Speaker 2>The Indiana Pacers.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't you sleep on them, because they got the juice

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<v Speaker 3>and they may not have the best player in the league,

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<v Speaker 3>and they may not have this future dynasty going on,

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<v Speaker 3>but they have the juice and that outweighs anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, it's happening. It's like the hot goalie in hockey.

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<v Speaker 3>This feels meant to be. Dude.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, my wife asked me going into this series,

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<v Speaker 1>who are you pulling for? And I think I've told

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<v Speaker 1>you guys this before. Generally, if I have no attachment

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<v Speaker 1>to the teams, all I want is I want it

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<v Speaker 1>to be exciting, and then I'll find whatever whatever I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pulling for will just happen naturally. It's not something i'll

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<v Speaker 1>go into and decide. I get caught into the emotion

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<v Speaker 1>of whatever it is. And I realized last night at

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<v Speaker 1>the So basically, if you didn't know anything about the game,

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<v Speaker 1>Indiana had nineteen turnovers in the first half. They played

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four minutes of basketball and had nineteen turnovers. Nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>turnovers in a game is terrible. They had nineteen and

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<v Speaker 1>a half and they were sitting there down twelve on

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<v Speaker 1>the road at halftime, and I was like, how does

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<v Speaker 1>this even possible? And then during the third quarter, I

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<v Speaker 1>was having a conversation phone conversation with Ben and I'd

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<v Speaker 1>paused it, so then Ben and I, you know, hung up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I kind of got caught up. There was some

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<v Speaker 1>moments in the third quarter where Indiana kind of got

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<v Speaker 1>it to eight or nine, but they never really broke through.

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<v Speaker 1>And then at the beginning of the fourth quarter, Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 1>City built up big lead, got it to fifteen, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were hooting and hollering and lou Dortz was draining

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<v Speaker 1>threes and I was like, yeah, that sucks, man. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted this to be a better game. And then suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>you look up, it's like, okay, it's an eight point game.

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<v Speaker 1>And then suddenly Miles Turner hits a three and you're like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a five point game. And then what happens is

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<v Speaker 1>everything that's gone on during this playoff run, in which

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<v Speaker 1>they've had a huge comeback win against Milwaukee, a huge

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<v Speaker 1>comeback win against the Knicks and a huge comeback win

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<v Speaker 1>against Cleveland. They're this like team of destiny and you

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<v Speaker 1>start sitting there going.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it's gonna happen again. It's gonna happen again.

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<v Speaker 1>And dude, there was a moment with about I think

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<v Speaker 1>a minute and a half or two minutes to go

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<v Speaker 1>and Tyrese Haliburton goes in the lane. They're down four,

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<v Speaker 1>and he kicks it out to Miles Turner for a

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<v Speaker 1>wide open three and he breaks it and Oklahoma City

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<v Speaker 1>goes down and scores, and you're like, Okay, they had

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<v Speaker 1>their chance. Then it got back up to eight, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, all right, they had their chance. It didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll be damn man, this team.

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<v Speaker 2>Does not give up.

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<v Speaker 1>So many wild things happen, and they got a stop

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<v Speaker 1>down one with eight seconds to go. Rick doesn't call

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<v Speaker 1>it time out and Halliburton just dribbles down and hits

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<v Speaker 1>a game winner. Again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I I was picking my wife up from the airport

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<v Speaker 4>and she goes, is there some big game happening right now?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, why she goes?

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<v Speaker 4>The airport just erupted And it was right after that

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<v Speaker 4>shot was made by Haliburton, and I was like, dang

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<v Speaker 4>it because I chose not to watch that game because

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<v Speaker 4>I was convinced it wasn't going to be close.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I'm now on the Pacers bandwagon. It's it's it's.

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<v Speaker 3>This feels like the Raptors a couple of years ago too, though,

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<v Speaker 3>And you know the Raptors lost. That's good, that's good,

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<v Speaker 3>but it feels like this is kind of like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>this could happen. And because one guy's playing otherworldly and crunch.

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<v Speaker 1>Time like Kai and you know who was on that

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<v Speaker 1>team helped me Outam?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that Wasam's third year and he was talking the

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<v Speaker 1>other day about Man, I thought I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the finals every other year that was new

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<v Speaker 1>in the league, and we won this championship and I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's soaking it up. And man, it's what I

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<v Speaker 1>realized watching last night's game is that I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>Indiana is not gonna be back here. I mean, they've

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<v Speaker 1>maximized this team, dude. Now the East is pretty wide open,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would be surprised that they got back there

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you guys see the clip going.

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<v Speaker 1>Around as Steve Nash and Lebron James talking about Indiana's offense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was watching that last night and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a rooting interest going in, and then as

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<v Speaker 1>the game was getting tight, I started pulling for Indiana

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't have to think about It's just what

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to happen. And I realized last night after

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<v Speaker 1>the game, I was like, Man, I'm pulling for Indiana

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<v Speaker 1>because Oklahoma City is going to be back.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, be around Bend.

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<v Speaker 4>I Mean, one one thought I had was, Man, I

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<v Speaker 4>want Oklahoma City to win, because once your belly's full

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<v Speaker 4>of that championship sports meet, it's hard to stay hungry.

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<v Speaker 4>And I know they're gonna be good for so long

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<v Speaker 4>that I thought maybe it would be hard for them to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go back to back.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I just I hate them, and so I'm

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<v Speaker 4>rooting against them in every possible way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I just can't stand lou Dort way too physical and

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<v Speaker 4>I just feel like Sga is a free throw hunter.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just not a fan. I don't like him and

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<v Speaker 4>I hate him because they're a huge rival and they're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be good for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of the things that's insane too, is just

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<v Speaker 2>the evolution of Rick Carlisle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's truly a basketball genius. He adapts to

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<v Speaker 1>any period of time, any movement in basketball, he adapts

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<v Speaker 1>and he gets ahead of it, like he was coaching

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<v Speaker 1>Pacer teams that were winning games eighty six to eighty.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when we got him, and at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I didn't know that much about him, but

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<v Speaker 1>I followed the Pacers, and one of the reasons we

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<v Speaker 1>got him is because Avery's offense was so stagnant. And

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<v Speaker 1>I remember my commentary at the time we were on

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<v Speaker 1>the ticket. My commentary was, we got Rick Carlile to

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<v Speaker 1>open up our offense. We're fed that guy's the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>control roll freak. Every single possession he calls a play.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not going to be a free flowing offense.

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<v Speaker 1>But dude, he adapts to whatever the moment is in basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know that a team has ever played

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<v Speaker 1>as wild ass as the Pacers play.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like fun, it's fun and frenetic.

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<v Speaker 1>And he is okay not calling a timeout on the

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<v Speaker 1>road for a game winning play.

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<v Speaker 2>Go do it, tyres. I mean, that is an evolution.

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<v Speaker 2>Rights to just go do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and every time he does something great, I'm like, Man,

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<v Speaker 4>the whole league voted him most overrated player, Isn't it great?

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<v Speaker 1>I went back and watched the clip last night of

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<v Speaker 1>when they asked him about it at the press conference,

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<v Speaker 1>and he handled it great. He handled it wonderfully. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun. It is a fun, fun series in his own. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do a little Wildlife new shall we?

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up next?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the latest on that zebra on the loose right

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<v Speaker 1>around the eagle
