WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:34.280 H So where do we get the Bible from? Did 2 00:00:34.359 --> 00:00:36.039 you even read the cannons? 3 00:00:37.479 --> 00:00:40.520 There is only one charge. You are in occult. 4 00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:44.719 You're a gobbling the demon, a bull merchard you saw me. 5 00:00:45.479 --> 00:00:46.479 I'm your dude. 6 00:00:47.479 --> 00:00:52.600 Is this your person of the webs? I attended? 7 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:54.280 You can't take it? 8 00:00:54.759 --> 00:01:00.759 So to your boys on your dude, plus one plus 9 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:01.600 one equal free. 10 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:04.760 It comes out the doll the tree. 11 00:01:06.599 --> 00:01:08.840 Why do you pray eat the dead people? 12 00:01:09.359 --> 00:01:12.079 That's the traditions A man new heretic. 13 00:01:12.599 --> 00:01:22.680 Wow, wow, mr dude, is this your person. 14 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:23.400 On a web? 15 00:01:24.200 --> 00:01:24.319 Cha? 16 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:28.079 I need a I can't take it. 17 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:28.879 He's little. 18 00:01:28.879 --> 00:01:37.760 To your boys, I'm your dude, andiic. 19 00:01:35.200 --> 00:01:39.079 Justification with you. 20 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:22.280 I remember when Lofton was engaged in pushing all of 21 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:25.439 these stories and especially the idea that there's going to 22 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:30.120 be thousands and thousands of Roman Orthodox coming into the 23 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:32.800 Roman Catholic Church in the near future. Well none of 24 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:38.400 that happened, and rather the opposite happened. We've seen mass 25 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:42.919 conversions out of Protestantism and out of Orthodox, out of 26 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:48.159 Rome into Orthodoxy, and they are in kind of a 27 00:02:48.280 --> 00:02:52.319 delusion phase of acting like in gaslighting, that nobody's converted. 28 00:02:52.599 --> 00:02:56.360 This doesn't exist. It's made up. I remember William Albrecht 29 00:02:56.400 --> 00:02:59.479 said that there was no Orthodox discord. I didn't have it. 30 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:02.120 It doesn't have have twelve thousand people in it. At 31 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:04.120 the time it was five thousand. It was all made up, 32 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:10.800 doesn't exist. We saw Ibarra not do very well against 33 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:14.400 Ubi and his debate. In fact, on the very issues 34 00:03:14.439 --> 00:03:17.879 of the debate, he admitted, I don't have a sufficient 35 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:20.960 answer for that question, and I ain't got one yet, 36 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:24.520 didn't I have to get back to your own which 37 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:27.159 was one of the topics of the debate, the papacy 38 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:33.599 of Virgilius. So now we have a person claiming on 39 00:03:33.639 --> 00:03:39.680 Twitter who you got it won't come debate, that he 40 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:43.159 no longer is Orthodox, he's converted to Rome. And then 41 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:45.919 it turns out when people started asking him, were you 42 00:03:45.919 --> 00:03:50.439 actually Orthodox, he never replies, and eventually it says I 43 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:53.719 never said I was your brother in Orthodoxy. I said 44 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:57.400 I was your brother in Christ. It's very pious of him, 45 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:01.360 but in actuality that's an admission that no, he never 46 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:07.639 was Orthodox. But the tweet that is going viral ish 47 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:13.719 many viral, two hundred thousand views. I no longer believe Orthodoxy, 48 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:17.920 but you weren't Orthodox, you were an e inquir investigator. 49 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:22.040 You didn't actually, as far as we can tell, become 50 00:04:22.079 --> 00:04:27.279 a cdech human. You weren't received into the church. And 51 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:31.279 yet he puts up a post, just some random, probably 52 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:34.079 twenty year old guy. Maybe he's what does he say 53 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:38.879 he is? Zoomer? Oh, I was a Lutheran and I 54 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:42.399 listened to Luigi a little bit and now decide I'm 55 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:46.800 going to Rome. And then of course there was no 56 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:49.160 evidence that he was ever Orthodox, and then he admits 57 00:04:49.160 --> 00:04:51.000 that he wasn't. And the Roman Catholics is saying, he 58 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:54.120 doesn't owe anything to you. He doesn't owe anything to you, 59 00:04:54.560 --> 00:04:57.160 has nothing. It's nothing to do with owing, has nothing 60 00:04:57.160 --> 00:04:59.120 to do with the debt, has to do with whether 61 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:01.279 or not you're telling the true truth or not. And no, 62 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:06.120 you can't just it's just dishonest. But it's weird. I 63 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:09.199 think in the gen Z like they don't care about 64 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:11.720 this kind of stuff, like it's okay to just be dishonest, 65 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:15.279 which is weird because they're hyper moral to but they 66 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:19.399 don't really see any problem with pretending and presenting yourself 67 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:23.399 as something that you're not. Many of them, for example, 68 00:05:23.399 --> 00:05:27.319 will claim that they are translators, that they're linguistic translators, 69 00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:32.439 no degree, no qualifications, They're using AI and they think 70 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:36.560 that makes them a translator. They think that they are 71 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:41.000 educated on topics because they watched YouTube videos and many 72 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:43.639 of them don't even read books. So it's just a 73 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:47.920 really weird era to be in when people have really 74 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:54.680 no problem with a form of con artistry. Really, if 75 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:57.959 you don't have qualifications, if you're not studying a subject, 76 00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:03.279 you don't front like you are on the internet. But unfortunately, 77 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:04.879 one of the downsides of the Internet is that it 78 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:10.800 gives everybody the ability to put up a persona that 79 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:15.040 they have qualifications and that they know what they're talking about. 80 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:19.800 And I mean, thank you. That's just I guess, part 81 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:22.639 of the downside of the world of the internet. But 82 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:29.680 here we are, so they're all saying, oh. And then 83 00:06:29.759 --> 00:06:33.800 the other thing that was funny was that he said, oh, 84 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:36.839 I never actually listened to any of your content, Jay exactly. 85 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:43.879 And then he says, you say dumb things. Well, I'd 86 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:47.399 like for him to come defend his position, but he says, no, 87 00:06:47.480 --> 00:06:53.199 I won't debate. So this is the standard sort of 88 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:59.879 just cowardice from people that don't have any actual arguments. 89 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:02.519 I bet he was happy to virtue signal though that 90 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:05.759 he wasn't a member of my audience. He actually says, 91 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:08.600 I actually avoided your content. I watched it sometimes, but 92 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:12.240 you said dumb stuff. What's the dumb stuff. I'd love 93 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:14.800 to hear what you think was dumb. I love to 94 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:16.759 hear a good argument from you as to why we 95 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:20.040 should be Roman Catholic, especially given the craziness of Francis. 96 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:23.800 But given that he basically lied and admits that he 97 00:07:23.879 --> 00:07:27.560 lied and says that, well, I wasn't really ever orthodox, 98 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:35.839 but I'm no longer orthodox. Should we be surprised at 99 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:40.600 any of this? I don't guess we should. It's just 100 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:42.759 really I don't know. It reinforces that. I mean, he'll 101 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:45.439 do well in Rome. He'll he'll go far in Rome 102 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:50.600 with this early track record of deception and lying, and 103 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:54.240 maybe he'll find home with his Skittles friends. I'm sure 104 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:57.480 he has a lot of Skittles friends. That is probably 105 00:07:57.519 --> 00:08:01.360 that's people will always overlook, like their motivations for why 106 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:06.879 people turn to something like Rome. I mean, sometimes people 107 00:08:06.920 --> 00:08:10.240 are genuinely looking into the intellectual issues, but in a 108 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:12.360 lot of cases it may just be because they have 109 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:14.959 a boyfriend, you know, maybe he has a boyfriend in Rome. 110 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:18.439 Maybe he has a girlfriend in Rome, And those kind 111 00:08:18.439 --> 00:08:26.439 of motivations are far more overlooked than the kind of 112 00:08:26.480 --> 00:08:30.000 identifiers and indicators that we're talking about in the intellectual realm. 113 00:08:30.199 --> 00:08:32.320 And a lot of times the intellectual things are just 114 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:38.960 sort of excuses that people make because really it's something else, right, girlfriend, boyfriend, 115 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:47.720 homo erotic tryst, whatever fits the Roman system more appropriately. 116 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:51.960 So we're going to open it up today. Originally I 117 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:56.919 put Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, but I don't think anybody. I mean, 118 00:08:57.000 --> 00:09:00.879 last night it was the most pitiful show of Muslims 119 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:05.919 I've ever seen. I mean, I couldn't believe that with me, God, 120 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:13.639 Logic and Sam Shamun we had that low tier. I mean, 121 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:17.840 it was just wild. I've kind of felt sorry for 122 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:22.759 the guys calling in last night because some of them 123 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:27.080 seem like just normal dudes. But just like with Rome 124 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:32.600 and just like with Islam, it really seems like people 125 00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:38.799 are there's something just about these religions that appeal. I mean, 126 00:09:38.840 --> 00:09:41.960 they do both have some intellectual people, but there's something 127 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:46.519 about these two religions that appeal to not very smart people. 128 00:09:47.039 --> 00:09:50.080 And I fully understand that it's not all about intellect. 129 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:53.960 It's ultimately about you know, do we humble ourselves and 130 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:59.039 submit ourselves to truth first and set aside our intellect 131 00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:00.960 and not let our intellect get in the way. I 132 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:04.960 totally understand all that. But at the same time, it's 133 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:08.080 like there is an element of intellect that is involved 134 00:10:08.080 --> 00:10:11.799 in this. And with all those guys that called in 135 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:15.519 who were former quote Catholics who become Muslims. Isn't that 136 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:19.360 interesting last night if you watch that long strain that 137 00:10:19.399 --> 00:10:25.200 we did. One of the commonalities that I see amongst 138 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:29.480 the people who say leave Rome orly Orthodoxy and become 139 00:10:29.559 --> 00:10:36.120 Roman Catholic, or who leave Catholicism and become Muslim is 140 00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:40.559 they leave and become those things for really bad reasons, 141 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:45.080 and they might appear to that person to be good reasons. 142 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:49.159 And this is where logic and fallacies are so important. 143 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:54.559 I mean, you can literally f up your life by 144 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:58.519 not knowing basic fallacies. And there's some balance that we 145 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:00.879 have to strike here because I'm not saying it's all intellect, 146 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:05.279 obviously it's not. But there is an element of critical 147 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:08.399 thinking and reasoning that you have to engage in or 148 00:11:08.399 --> 00:11:11.679 you're gonna get duped. You're gonna believe just stupid stuff 149 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:18.000 for stupid reasons that you think are good reasons. Let 150 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:21.000 me think of an example of you know, some of 151 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:24.759 the common things that we hear between say a Roman 152 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:30.080 Catholic or a sam Mormon, is how they feel when 153 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:35.039 they prayed this or that Marian prayer. Identical argument that 154 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:38.080 the Mormon makes when they talk about the whatever the 155 00:11:38.120 --> 00:11:42.480 Mormon version of burning in the bosom prayer the Mormon, 156 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:48.720 you know, alter call whatever it is. They'll literally say 157 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:52.200 something like, well, when I prayed the Rosary, I just 158 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:56.480 had this overwhelming feeling of peace. I just had this 159 00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:59.120 I felt like Mary was speaking to me. I've literally 160 00:11:59.159 --> 00:12:02.679 heard multiple people, well guys and girls, say this is 161 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:07.480 what convinced them of Catholicism over Orthodoxy. And I'm like, 162 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:11.039 what would you say to a Mormon who says the 163 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:14.240 exact same thing When I prayed the Mormon prayer and 164 00:12:14.279 --> 00:12:19.679 I felt the burning in my bosom? 165 00:12:19.960 --> 00:12:23.679 What can't hear you? 166 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:30.320 Well, Jamie's saying, maybe they're being given drugs. Well, it 167 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:32.039 might have been drugs back in the days of what 168 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:34.600 maybe Joseph Smith figured out, you know, some kind of 169 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:36.360 drug that he gave people that made him feel good 170 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:39.799 or something. But this is a very common experience that 171 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:44.519 Mormon missionaries have with people that they're trying to recruit 172 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:46.919 in the mission field. Right, Mormon missionaries go out, they'll 173 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:50.080 go door to door, and when they find a perspective convert, 174 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:54.080 they will do the whole you know, prayer, burning in 175 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:57.559 the bosom thing. And then if you feel something, which 176 00:12:57.759 --> 00:13:01.919 could be anything, right, could be uh, your emotions on 177 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:05.600 the on the on the spot. It could be pizza 178 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:08.279 that you ate last night, you know, giving you bubble guts. 179 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:13.120 It could be a demon, you know, making you feel 180 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:16.200 some some kind of way. It could be all kinds 181 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:20.519 of things causing a feeling. And so that's why we 182 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:24.159 cannot make our religious decisions, our life decisions on the 183 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:27.360 basis of feelings. I mean, it could be all kinds 184 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:32.039 of things. It's the same as like and even sometimes 185 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:35.879 we can have a correct belief that we have bad 186 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:42.240 reasons for. We always use example, you know, oh, why 187 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:44.679 do you own bitcoin? A whole bitcoin? Oh well, I 188 00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:47.320 listened to my dreams. Bill Cosby came to me in 189 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:50.440 a dream and he said, by the big coins and 190 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:54.399 they went up. So therefore I can trust my dreams 191 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:56.440 and I can listen to the spirit of Bill Cosby, 192 00:13:56.440 --> 00:13:58.759 and my dreams tell me to buy bitcoin and see 193 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:02.720 bitcoin went up. So let's proof, Well, that bitcoin went 194 00:14:02.840 --> 00:14:09.200 up does not necessarily connect to your Bill Cosby bitcoin dream. 195 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:12.360 So that would be a bad reason for believing in 196 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:15.039 something that turned out to be true, that bitcoin would 197 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:18.720 go up over time. Right, So you don't just need 198 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:23.120 reasons that happened to be correlated with something true that happened, 199 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:28.879 or you actually need good reasons, not just any old reasons. 200 00:14:29.399 --> 00:14:32.200 And I don't think this. I think this guy listed 201 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:36.720 a few of his reasons, and shocker, he wasn't familiar 202 00:14:36.759 --> 00:14:40.159 with any of the argumentation that we do. I mean, already, 203 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:45.120 this whole profile just screams like annoying virtue signaler. Anybody 204 00:14:45.159 --> 00:14:47.879 who puts the picture of Jesus as their profile picture 205 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:51.320 and all this religious imagery as their proof, as the 206 00:14:51.519 --> 00:14:56.360 icons as their profile, they're almost always insufferable virtue signalers. 207 00:14:57.159 --> 00:15:00.360 It's just a kind of a weird delusion. And so 208 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:03.000 he's Jay's talking about me on the stream right now, 209 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:05.320 I'm getting spammed by diary he's freaking out right now 210 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:07.279 because I'm actually talking about him. Only of reason I'm 211 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:11.759 talking about your case is because it's a pattern example 212 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:15.720 of the few instances that we've seen where people accept 213 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:20.159 Rome and I'm trying to find your bad loft and level. 214 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:23.000 They're literally loft in level reasonings I'm trying to find out. 215 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:27.960 I thought he had a post that explained there are 216 00:15:27.960 --> 00:15:32.120 many reasons why, but I will always be your brother 217 00:15:32.200 --> 00:15:34.240 in Christ. It doesn't work like that, Like you don't 218 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:38.000 get to be an acumenist. I guess in Rome you 219 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:40.799 to being a cumenist, but that doesn't mean that it's 220 00:15:40.840 --> 00:15:44.240 consistent anyway. I don't even see his reasons for why 221 00:15:44.279 --> 00:15:46.960 he became Caligi over Orthodox. People are saying in the 222 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:50.639 chat that elsewhere he explains that his reasons are just 223 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:53.519 kind of like basic Michael Lofton level kind of stuff. 224 00:15:53.879 --> 00:15:55.519 And you'll notice in you know, in the Ubie debate, 225 00:15:56.600 --> 00:16:01.240 the debate over the papal stuff gets nuanced and really 226 00:16:01.279 --> 00:16:05.519 deep and really historical, and it's unfortunate that it is 227 00:16:05.519 --> 00:16:07.759 that way. I wish it wasn't a situation where there 228 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:11.440 was you know, reading that was necessary and whatnot. But 229 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:13.559 really the only reason that all that reading is necessary 230 00:16:13.600 --> 00:16:16.360 is that people don't pay attention to the obvious. And 231 00:16:16.399 --> 00:16:18.320 when I say the obvious, I mean if you had 232 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:20.720 a basic introduction to the history of the Church in 233 00:16:20.759 --> 00:16:24.279 the first thousand years, say from Pelicon, or even from 234 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:27.759 a Roman Catholic like de Vornik, you would note that 235 00:16:28.679 --> 00:16:33.919 sentidality collegiality is pretty much universally admitted. Rome admits this. 236 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:36.840 Now the idea that the Church was governed in this 237 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:40.360 Vatican one paper way is just no longer believed and 238 00:16:40.399 --> 00:16:45.360 admitted to be true by the Vatican itself. So it 239 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:48.399 says we now have the Vatican admitting that this was 240 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:51.960 an evolution in the Chiad and Alexandria documents. You would 241 00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:54.120 think that it would just kind of be obvious, And 242 00:16:54.159 --> 00:16:56.840 then you would think it would be obvious that when 243 00:16:56.879 --> 00:17:01.039 people see the insanity of what the the papacy does 244 00:17:01.080 --> 00:17:04.720 on almost a daily basis of post Vatican two, you 245 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:07.440 would think they have discernment. But they don't. And the 246 00:17:07.480 --> 00:17:11.440 reason that we don't have discernment is because we are 247 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:14.720 not number one close to God, because we would have 248 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:16.880 discernment were we close to God, we would be able 249 00:17:16.920 --> 00:17:19.759 to see the true and the false. We would be 250 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:22.000 praying and asking for the gift of discernment, which is 251 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:23.559 one of the gifts of the spirit. According to Paul, 252 00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:26.960 we would be able to tell the truth from the false. 253 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:32.440 We'd be able to discern the spirits. As John says 254 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:36.039 in his letters, and as Paul talks about right just 255 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:39.319 understanding and knowing the truth from the false spirits. John says, 256 00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:42.039 you have an anointing, and therefore you will know the 257 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:46.880 true and the false. Well, people that are being duped 258 00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:49.200 by this stuff, that tells me that they don't have 259 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:53.279 the anointing and they're lacking that gift of discernment. And 260 00:17:53.319 --> 00:17:55.240 I can also say from experience that I've made a 261 00:17:55.240 --> 00:17:57.039 lot of these same mistakes. So I'm not trying to 262 00:17:57.039 --> 00:18:01.559 be mean or rude to people that are making them 263 00:18:01.799 --> 00:18:03.599 the same mistakes I did. But you'll notice that these 264 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:07.160 people are not interested in hearing or listening to anyone else. 265 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:10.759 It's odd to me that people who make this decision, 266 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:13.359 and by the way, it's not common. It's actually pretty rare, 267 00:18:13.960 --> 00:18:17.079 I would say, And you know this because the Rumancalics 268 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:20.200 will trumpet this all over the place. Right, They didn't 269 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:23.279 even bother to look into whether this guy actually was Orthodox. 270 00:18:23.279 --> 00:18:26.200 As soon as somebody says on the internet, like the 271 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:30.400 sock puppets of you Know twenty eighteen claiming that Lofton 272 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:34.119 was mass converting people to roam from Orthodoxy, nobody actually 273 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:37.039 checks into these They just run with the claims. Then 274 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:39.920 when you when you actually dig into it, well, he 275 00:18:39.960 --> 00:18:43.400 wasn't actually Orthodox, he was just e inquiring. Yeah, but 276 00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:46.039 that doesn't mean you're Orthodox with you if you e inquire. 277 00:18:47.319 --> 00:18:49.720 But everybody's under this delusion that you can kind of 278 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:52.240 just make yourself be whatever you want on the internet 279 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:54.559 and then everybody should just accept it. All the Roman 280 00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:56.599 Catholics in the comments that are replying to me on 281 00:18:56.640 --> 00:18:59.799 his posts, he doesn't owe you anything. He doesn't have 282 00:18:59.839 --> 00:19:03.119 to defend himself to you. He just owe you. There's 283 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:05.920 nothing to do with own with whether or not you're 284 00:19:05.920 --> 00:19:12.559 telling the truth or not. And if I was genuinely 285 00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:17.319 unclear on this topic, wouldn't you want to go to 286 00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:21.039 the people who are known to be the top defenders 287 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:25.519 or debaters on that subject. And so, in other words, 288 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:28.519 they're making choices not based on like who actually has 289 00:19:28.559 --> 00:19:32.839 good arguments, who actually has the best apologetic defense and critique. 290 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:36.279 You know, he says in his comments, I don't listen 291 00:19:36.319 --> 00:19:37.880 to your stuff. I don't really care about you say 292 00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:41.559 dumb stuff like no examples of it, just some kind 293 00:19:41.599 --> 00:19:46.599 of lame, low tier jab But no, but they don't 294 00:19:46.640 --> 00:19:49.319 actually go to the people literally known for being like 295 00:19:49.480 --> 00:19:52.720 the top debaters. Even if you disagreed, wouldn't you want 296 00:19:52.799 --> 00:19:55.640 to know what the top debaters in this or that 297 00:19:55.680 --> 00:20:00.319 field say? And he said, well, I listened to elite 298 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:03.640 Luigi for a few months. Now. I'm not dissing Luigi. 299 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:08.079 Luigi's a great debater, but I mean, Luigi is not 300 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:11.359 familiar with all the pre Vatican two post Vatican two 301 00:20:11.599 --> 00:20:14.960 dogmatic contradiction material. Maybe he will be eventually. I'm not sure. 302 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:17.440 I'm not dissing Luigi at all. But you know, Luigi's 303 00:20:17.440 --> 00:20:19.599 done really well in his two debates. But luigis is 304 00:20:19.599 --> 00:20:24.119 also a fairly new convert. Why would you hang everything 305 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:30.920 supposedly on Luigi? And now, oh, he's only fourteen years old. 306 00:20:31.480 --> 00:20:34.200 I don't know people's age. People are publicly saying all 307 00:20:34.279 --> 00:20:38.440 kinds of stuff, and the whole Roman Catholic world is 308 00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:40.880 you know, two hundred thousand people now are looking at 309 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:44.440 this tweet as if this is some sort of like 310 00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:48.960 we gotcha, we could have finally owned the Ortho bros. 311 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:52.119 Like this is some giant win for all the Roman 312 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:54.400 Catholic world, even if he is a fourteen or fifty 313 00:20:54.440 --> 00:20:58.039 year old dude. That's even worse for the Roman Catholics 314 00:20:58.079 --> 00:21:02.519 for touting some fourteen year old guy who doesn't know 315 00:21:02.559 --> 00:21:07.119 the arguments, who hasn't studied this stuff, as if that's 316 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:10.000 like a win against the Orthodox. This is all so ridiculous, 317 00:21:10.039 --> 00:21:13.559 like everything about all of this stuff online, with all 318 00:21:13.599 --> 00:21:16.960 of this domain and people who pretend to be like 319 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:21.319 it's just so ridiculous. I mean, half of the Internet 320 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:25.000 right now, half a freaking X thinks drones are aliens. 321 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:29.920 This is how stupid everyone is. There's literally I just 322 00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:32.440 send a message to Tristan like it's literally a drone 323 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:35.400 that crashed. People are you can see that it's a 324 00:21:35.480 --> 00:21:38.759 drone and like people think that this is aliens. I mean, 325 00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:42.559 I don't know what to say. I mean, people are 326 00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:45.839 just dumb, dude, They're just totally out to lunch. They 327 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:50.880 don't have any discernment. I mean, did anyone hear the 328 00:21:50.960 --> 00:21:58.240 last night's debate? I mean of the donation sound is 329 00:21:58.440 --> 00:22:01.119 too loud. Let me fix that alert box. It's supposed 330 00:22:01.119 --> 00:22:04.119 to be pretty low, so maybe maybe that's better now. 331 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:10.279 Half the time this sound resets the on this computer, 332 00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:12.680 and then I never know what's going on with the 333 00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:18.359 sound settings. So yep, of course the input volume is 334 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:21.200 all the way down in the alert box. Music is 335 00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:23.279 all the way up as usual, so that should be better. 336 00:22:23.319 --> 00:22:24.839 Maybe you can hear me better now. I don't know 337 00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:28.319 why it does that. Just Mac always resets. Oh, I 338 00:22:28.359 --> 00:22:29.920 know why it is if I go on I know 339 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:32.519 what it is. When I go on streamly Ardyard. Stream 340 00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:39.000 Yard has the auto volume setting, so because God Logic 341 00:22:39.039 --> 00:22:42.240 does everything on stream Yard, whenever I go on those shows, 342 00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:46.920 it resets my internal setting because that's stupid estra. I 343 00:22:46.960 --> 00:22:48.759 hate stream Yard. I don't understand why everybody uses the 344 00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:52.319 stream yards. It's so annoying. But that's why it always 345 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:54.759 does this. Anytime I go on a stream yard stream 346 00:22:54.839 --> 00:22:57.960 it resets on my audio crap automatically. You can't stop it. 347 00:22:57.960 --> 00:22:59.319 If you try to change it in the midst of 348 00:22:59.359 --> 00:23:02.519 a stream Yard st knocks it back down to like zero. 349 00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:06.559 It's so stupid anyway, and stream Yard tries to make 350 00:23:06.599 --> 00:23:10.200 you sign in from your Facebook. I mean, dude, who 351 00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:12.599 is even using Facebook? What kind of boomer crap is 352 00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:18.359 this stream yard? Nobody uses Facebook? Face boomer maybe sign 353 00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:25.799 in with Facebook? Is that for uncles uncle's roadster stream? 354 00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:29.599 I mean, come on, who what Facebook people are streaming 355 00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:32.799 anyway except your uncle's roadster stream? 356 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:39.640 D six engine to nerve, I'm a live stream working 357 00:23:39.720 --> 00:23:44.160 on my chopper support Israel and Mud. 358 00:23:46.279 --> 00:23:49.640 Now, somebody sent me three fat super chats here Jen 359 00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:51.480 Lamp fifty dollars, and then we're going to open it 360 00:23:51.559 --> 00:23:54.359 up to debate here in a second. Thank you Enigo 361 00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:57.920 Montoya for your great work. I love you and Jamie's stuff. 362 00:23:58.039 --> 00:24:00.640 God bless you. Thank you, Jen Lamp fifty dollars. Again, 363 00:24:01.039 --> 00:24:03.599 here's another part of this donation, and you go buy 364 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:07.680 you thank you for everything. But I'm curious what your 365 00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:11.359 thoughts are on the Voynash manuscript. Also, can you do 366 00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:16.119 a weekly Billy Corson check in? Well, Billy cart If 367 00:24:16.119 --> 00:24:18.799 I checked in every week on Billy Corson, he threatened 368 00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:21.359 to sue me. So I'm too scared. Now I gotta 369 00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:24.799 I gotta run. I'm scared. Remember when Lofton threatened assuming 370 00:24:25.039 --> 00:24:27.440 you guys remember the lawsuit, because I said that there 371 00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:29.920 was soccer accounts that are saying that Lofton was the 372 00:24:29.920 --> 00:24:33.079 greatest apologists ever, which literally there was like the soccer 373 00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:36.920 accounts were saying I converted from Orthodoxy to Rome because 374 00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:40.559 of the beautiful, brilliant work of the greatest apologists of 375 00:24:40.599 --> 00:24:42.759 all time, Michael loft It was just so ridiculous and 376 00:24:42.799 --> 00:24:46.960 obviously fake sock accounts that were just created. He's a dog, 377 00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:50.039 you know, a top talking about lawyer by normal Sue. 378 00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:51.680 I got the email where he threatens to assume me. 379 00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:55.880 By the way, Jen lamp here's another donation. Oh, the 380 00:24:55.960 --> 00:24:58.359 Voyage Manuscript. I mean, the only thing I remember reading 381 00:24:58.400 --> 00:25:02.759 about that is the chapter in g Hancock's book, like 382 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:11.880 ten years ago. What's it called? I forget the everybody's 383 00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:14.519 familiar with this Graham Hancock, but not the one about 384 00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:16.160 the Ark of the Covenant, the other one about the 385 00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:19.880 Pyramids and the lay lines and all that, and I just, 386 00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:22.720 I mean, it's interesting. I don't know what the real 387 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:25.960 story about the Voyenans Manuscript is, but I think a 388 00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:30.039 lot of that ancient mystical, you know, civilization stuff is 389 00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:33.400 really fascinating. But once, like one thing, you realize that 390 00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:35.039 if you start to read about a bunch of that 391 00:25:35.160 --> 00:25:38.119 is like there's just really no conclusive any you can 392 00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:41.200 never get anything conclusive about that. It's kind of like 393 00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:45.799 all these so called UFO videos. It's like, what is 394 00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:48.279 this blurry light? I don't know and you can never 395 00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:50.319 figure it out, you know what I mean? What's this 396 00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:54.680 blurry creature? Who is that bigfoot? How come it's always blurry? 397 00:25:54.759 --> 00:25:57.319 Like you can never so it never goes anywhere. So 398 00:25:57.519 --> 00:26:00.480 I don't I haven't thought about the Voyeness manuscript maybe 399 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:04.480 ten years, but it is interesting. Jen Lamb says, for 400 00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:09.200 fifty dollars, sorry, here's another donation for my atonement. Your atonement. 401 00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:11.960