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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back. It is the Raspball Fantasy Baseball Podcast.

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I am beat On, joined by the Fantasy Master Lethario himself. Great,

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all right, how's it going over there? Great?

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Speaker 2: What's up beat on? How's it going?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: I uh, I just wanted to inform you, uh, you're

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not gonna get the You're not getting the call up

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this year to the the big league squad.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: We're rosters are expanding, but unfortunately we're gonna have to

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uh leave you in the minors for a little bit

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more fine tuning on your audio visual skill. Sorry, I'm

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sorry if you do I know you were expecting the

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call up. It's uh, it's unfortunate.

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Speaker 2: That's actually that gives me a good idea.

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Speaker 3: You know how the social media they teams on social media,

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they put out these videos of the players getting called up.

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Speaker 2: They should have videos of players not getting called up.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to see that, like, yeah, hey, uh, thanks

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Justin Crawford, thanks for coming in. Yeah, here's a here's

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a camera setup. So you you're you're anticipating something, aren't you. Yeah,

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see yeah here here just uh, just I'll have the

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camera right on my shoulder and you could you look

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at me. Don't look at the camera, but just so

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you know, the camera's right here because we're gonna put

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this out the social media.

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Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, thanks for coming into the office. Unfortunately we're

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not calling you up.

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Speaker 3: What sorry, man, Sorry, it was a good Uh you

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had a good run this year in the minor leagues,

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mister Crawford.

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Speaker 2: Justin Crawford. It's like he's so overdue.

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Speaker 3: So my big thing remember uh, way back and like

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twenty nineteen when the rosters used to expand to forty

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that was so awesome.

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Speaker 1: That was awesome and terrible at the exact stime Oh good.

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Speaker 2: It was so good. Oh my god. That was like,

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like I'm not like, I'm not mister.

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Speaker 3: Let's do throwbacks. Okay, I'm I'm I'm I'm a progressive

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guy here. I like the pitch clock, I like the

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shorter games. I don't need to see pitchers hitting. But

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the rosters expanding in September, Oh man, you have like

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you have like forty guys in the dugout, like overflowing.

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Speaker 2: There are a few of the guys that have to sit.

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Speaker 3: In like the first row behind the dugout because there'll

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be no room. It was so awesome. Unfortunately that no

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longer happens. It's, uh, what does it expand like two

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players or something?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we go from twenty six to twenty eight players.

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. It's like it's like you get a.

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Speaker 3: Cannesota and then a two ounce shot behind it, and

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you used to get like a forty a forty ounce

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fosters can. The thing with the the call ups too,

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that I really kind of don't understand. Like I get

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that you want arms to like, you know, use, but

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these for the teams that are at least for the

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teams that are going to the playoffs. You would think

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they'd want to call up their best players in order

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to possibly have them at their disposal in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: You get like Ryan Yarbro. Who else you get?

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Speaker 3: Like you get the most random, like oh, like Garrett

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Speaker 2: What's that doing you? Like, why wouldn't you call up

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Justin Crawford just for nothing else?

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Speaker 3: To have, like as a pinch runner, because like he

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you need it, Like if you have like I don't.

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Speaker 3: Don't understand some team decisions sometimes, man, I just I

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really don't like it just doesn't make sense why you

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wouldn't call up the best of the best that you

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have at your disposable, because like.

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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you like those those guys you have them.

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Speaker 3: Expiring service time or something like you know they're gonna

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't really have a whole lot there,

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except that all you need is one person to go

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to the IL and then you can swap in whoever

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there's ways around it. I'm sure there's there's phantom I

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six that you had, you can add one of those

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last two people or somebody else. So always a way

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean, that's fair.

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Speaker 3: It's also though, like what do you really need Garrett Stumps?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I completely understand, just I feel like they're

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very specific players, so maybe they're just needing a little

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bit of defense and speed. And then you know Ryan

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a case here. Great, I don't know that I actually

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believe my case. But also on the arms side, a

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lot of pitchers, especially young ones, are starting to hit

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their innings limits, so it becomes a thing of like,

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well if we call them up or we calling them

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up just to sit around and watch people pitch versus

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you know, Ryan Rbro, who cares if you toss in

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for however many innings you need if you're just if

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you just need somebody to throw innings?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I get it, but it's like you want

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to have the fun of having Spencer Jones get called

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up or do you want Ryan Yarbro was like so boring.

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Speaker 2: I mean, oh my god, and no, I mean I hear.

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then you could, you know, grab a different guy. Sure,

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there's ways around it. I I totally hear you. But

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it's just I don't I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I just I I'm with you,

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Speaker 3: Just like it's like, oh, the doctors signed Andrew heany like,

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so to save Enrique Hernandez's arm for like blowouts, like

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what are we doing here?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, anyway, yep, Cubs brought in bout Carlo Santana

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and back down Owen casey Uh. That's a that's a

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fun one to just mull over in my head as.

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Speaker 3: At about everything that's actually brings up another one, which

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is just incredible. The Angels brought up Scott Kingery and

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sent down Christian Moore.

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Speaker 2: What what, dude? I mean?

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Speaker 3: Think about that so seriously, you know, think about how

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disorganized this organization is.

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Speaker 2: If you have a guy.

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Speaker 3: Christian Moore who's a future, who's your future, he's an

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actual prospect, you bring him up.

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Speaker 2: He struggles for sure, but when rosters expand, you send

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him down basically being like, hey man, you failed, goodbye, goodbye,

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and then.

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Speaker 3: You send them down in September in the minor league,

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seasons are ending, so it's like you're sending me down

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to where man.

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Speaker 1: As they're eight and a half back from the wild card.

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Speaker 2: As they're out of every race. It's like, why are

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you sending me now?

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Speaker 1: Oh man?

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that's yea.

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Speaker 1: I do remember from the old, the old forty man

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roster days that I was firm believer that at least

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head to head league should end in August because it

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just becomes this crazy thing in head to head leagues

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where you can't really figure anything out, especially in like

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a weekly head to head league. It's just impossible to

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figure out rosters day to day. And that was just

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it just didn't feel like you were playing the same

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season that you had played all the way up until

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September and it switched over. But you know it was

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great for pitching gray if you were behind in pitching categories,

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you could throw whoever you wanted out and it didn't

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matter because it was basically triple A teams sent out

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for anybody who was out of the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, I yeah, no, I hear you. I I

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it's still like that with.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to pitching. Like I I always like

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I like the stream in September because you have a

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really you have the best idea you're gonna have as

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to which teams are actually good and competing, and you

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also have a good idea of like which players, which

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pitchers are uh you know, pitching well, and like you

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have all the information you're possibly gonna have from the season. Uh,

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and you know, matchups are really pretty clear. With that said,

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I would have started Charlie Morton today on Monday, and

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he just got rocked, so.

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Speaker 1: You know, and that is the Charlie Morton special. I

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mean it is, Uh, he'll go, he'll go three straight

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quality starts and then just bomb you and just leave

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you wondering what happened then? What seems like a positive matchup.

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But let's talk about some of the call ups that

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have gotten the September call up. Gray harry Ford was

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brought up by the Mariners and Triple A this year.

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He has sixteen or nine seven stone bases. He hit

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two eighty three nineteen point two percent strike out rate,

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sixteen point two percent walk rate, number forty two one.

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It is Prospect rankings. What do you think about the

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harry Ford call up in Seattle? Do you think he's

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playing or is this just a situation where he's sitting

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behind like four catchers.

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Speaker 4: On the.

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Speaker 3: Harry Ford sounds like a seventies pimped out car with

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like a shag rug.

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Speaker 2: For a seat covers. My here's my harry Ford, the

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dogmobile from Dumb and Dumber. Yeah, welcome to my harry Ford, ladies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he looks great, right, so power speed,

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average in the minor leagues this year, which I don't

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know if that's necessarily going to be his thing, but

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he did. He did hit for good power and stole

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some bags. And I mean the fact that he had

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thirty five steals in double A. I mean that's last year.

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That's insane for a catcher. I mean, we haven't seen

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something like that since one Jason Kendall, Tony Paana, Benito Santiago.

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kind of speed. I think as a catcher, the big

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issue is obviously where's he play?

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Speaker 2: Like is uh, you know, maybe next year.

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Speaker 3: They go with a combo of cal Rawley at DH

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and harry Ford, which is a harry Ford's a tough

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name to say with a straight face. They maybe they

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go with a combo of like cal Rawley Harry Ford's

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a DH catcher combo where you know, three days, one

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guy's at DH, three gate, three days, one guys at

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catcher and they they swap.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they do that next year, but for this year,

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they're I think all their spots are spoken for.

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Speaker 3: Like if they go into the season with a DH

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spot open for one of them, then fine. But right now,

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like Jorge Blanco has been dhing for them, he's been solid.

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Speaker 2: There's no reason to move him out of there.

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Speaker 3: I think this is a case where Ford is getting

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a call up as like a pat in the back

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and maybe you get like, I don't know, fifty at

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bats this month or something like, he's not. I don't

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Speaker 2: So I I like, I like him in the like

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at least shallower than fifteen team Maybe in a fifteen

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team two catcher league, you take a flyer on him

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and you're like, you know, if you're struggling a catcher

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and you take a flyer on him and you just

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set him and forget him and see what happens if

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you're in a fifteen team mix league or deeper.

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Speaker 2: I could see that for a two catcher, but for

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one catcher leagues, I just don't see it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree. Maybe in a daily league where

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you're strictly chasing stolen bases just because there's so few

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catchers you can get stolen bases from, I could maybe

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see that if that once particular scenario. But yeah, I

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don't really see where Harry Ford unfortunately, because like I said,

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I think we both like him, and it is a

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catcher eligible, power speed guy. That's pretty rare and and

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it's just, uh, I don't think there's enough playing time

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at this point for it to matter. Good pool on

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the Jason Kendall, I think he's the most stolen bases

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by a catcher since the nineties. Pud would be on

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that list, and Craig Bigio, who I forgot started as

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a catcher. So some fun names on that list. Let's

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move over to Cincinnati, where they have called up Sal

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Stewart across Double A and Triple A. Eighty games in

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Double A, thirty eight games in Triple A. He had

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twenty home runs, seventeen stone bases. He had three or nine,

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three eighty three five twenty four. He had a fifteen

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point six percent strikeout rate in a nine three point

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three percent walk rate. That ballpark's always interesting. Do you

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think he's going to get the playing time to make

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it interesting?

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Speaker 2: I want to say maybe possibly.

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Speaker 3: I you know, I I actually i'd been on him

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in only my tout Wars league. I've been on him

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and I won him for seventy two dollars out of

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a thousand. Obviously we don't have a thousand anymore.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, I did win him, and because I lost

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Alec Burlison.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, I was pretty excited about getting him because I

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do think there might be some playing time there. I

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think it's I think he's more interesting to me than Ford, and.

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Speaker 2: Actually more interesting to me than any of the guys

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that we're gonna go over today.

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Speaker 3: He's the most interesting because I feel like the Reds

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are kind of they feel like they're kind of moving

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away from Spencer Steer, and like even today South Stewart

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started in front of Steer.

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Speaker 2: He came out. I believe Stewart came out later in

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the game. He was replaced.

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Speaker 3: But I think the playing time might be there in

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the at least it's worth giving a shot because, like

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you already mentioned, like well was Spear going back to

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Steer excuse me Steer for a second, Like he's really struggled.

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I mean, he's been like so boring. Nothing's really popping

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for him this year. And Stewart, as you mentioned, like

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he has solid speed, he's got solid power, He's in

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a great park. He's had really fantastic contact fifteen point

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six strikeout percentage in the minor leagues this year, hitting

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three ZHO nine with not that absurd of a bab

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but at three thirty five, he's probably closer to like

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a two fifty five to sixty hitter, but still the

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power and speed are there. I kind of like south Stewart.

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Speaker 2: I think there might actually be at bats there for him.

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Speaker 3: They also have like not only Steer, but they have Hayes, who's,

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you know, very injury prone, Matt McClain who's shows he's

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struggled so much.

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Speaker 2: Cabrian Hayes, who has been good for the Reds. But

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again it's Cabrian Hayes. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's playing good defense, so Hayes probably stays there.

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Gavin Lux is not like someone they have to play.

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He's at DH, so they have a lot of spots

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where Stewart can end up getting some at bats.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm interested. I'm kind of like.

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Speaker 3: I feel like probably fifteen team Mix League or deeper

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still for right now, but I'm kind of watching to

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see if maybe he gets on like twelve team Mix

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League radars, because I think there could be some serious

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talent here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think you're right. That is probably

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the most interesting guy that we'll talk about in regards

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to shallow league pickups, you know, like you said, power speed,

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and there's opportunity here for him to play. It seems

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like there's kind of a curse of corner infielders there

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in Cincinnati. They just can't really lock anybody down. Who

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we get, We get little glimpses of people and then

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they're they're just terrible gray. So maybe eventually we can

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get the right mixture of people into this lineup to

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not be completely boring. As you mentioned, Spencer Steer, he could.

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He could be on our section later where we're going

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to talk about some of the bad, bad second half.

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Spencer Steers definitely on that list. Even though his first

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half was pretty boring, it the second half has been

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it's been bad.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the curse of Heimer Condelaria, Uh, Joey Vado, his

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ghost still wants to be at first base, that is anymore.

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Let's go over to New York where the Mets called

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up joanah Toong uh double A triple a mostly double,

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A one hundred and thirteen and two thirds innings one

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four to three e or a nine to two whip

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is a forty and a half percent strikeout rate and

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a ten point six percent walk rate ninety five mile

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hour fastball curve change. I mean, the numbers are ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Gray, is this somebody that you would look at grabbing

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for you know, an occasional start here there?

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Speaker 3: You know, it's actually it's kind of funny if anyone

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has seen him, how much how identical he looks at

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Tim linselkom Right, you've seen the comparisons. Yes, I'm sure,

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I'm sure most people have. You know. What's kind of

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interesting though with that is like the guy with possibly

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the worst mechanics who is going to lead to injury.

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Speaker 2: Let me let me replicate that. Let me let me

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look for the guy who has the worst possible mechanics

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of all possible pictures.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope, I hope Jonah knows what he's doing,

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because I don't know, I don't know if those mechanics

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are really meant for the long haul.

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Speaker 2: But for now, Hey, he looks great. I mean, he

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he looked.

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Speaker 3: He looked as good as any starter that's been called up.

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I believe this year. Maybe you know Bubba Bubba's looked great,

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uh in mineral belief, Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 2: There's been a few, but yeah, Tong's looked incredible. I

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watched his whole start. I was impressed. I I think

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there's something to the fact.

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Speaker 3: That, like the Mets have already been like, you know,

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they said they went to a six man rotation, right,

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so they're so they're in a six man now, and

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they seem to keep uh saying like what they're gonna

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like each week.

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Speaker 2: It feels like there's updates on that, which leads me

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to believe at some.

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Speaker 3: Point they're gonna drop tong or Nolan MacLean out of

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the rotation.

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Speaker 2: It's not or or one or one or the other

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or both or you know something.

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Speaker 3: At some point, I believe Uh, Jonah Tongue at least,

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who we're talking about right now, is gotta he's got

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to get shut down at some point. There's just so

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many innings he can possibly throw, Like he might have

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another five innings start in him, maybe two more five

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innings starts, But I can't believe they're gonna throw him

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for much more than maybe fifteen innings at the most.

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Maybe so maybe three more starts of five innings each maybe,

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but it's gonna be so it's gonna be real limited

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on like what you're gonna get out of him. You

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might get a few k's, you're not probably gonna get

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a chance for too many wins you could.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he looks good. I don't mind streaming him.

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Speaker 3: But I think this is more of like you're getting

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a little taste of what potentially he could do next year,

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which is he's there's a few guys that are gonna

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be really exciting about for drafts next year.

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Speaker 2: Jonah tom is definitely gonna be a guy I.

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Speaker 3: Want to be surprised if he's pretty high up, because

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like he looks like a guy who you're gonna want

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to get in on early in his career. If the

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Linsingcom comparisons remain, you know, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I mean we talked about some of the names last week.

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I mean you mentioned Bubba Chandler, Logan Henderson, Jacob is Rosky,

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Dolan McLain already, uh, Chase Burns, Ronnie and Riquez. There's

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been so many great young pitchers. Kate Horton has been

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great as well. So yeah, next year is gonna be

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a fun draft with all these young arms that have

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looked you know, they've performed amazingly while they've been up.

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And I will say, when we're talking about the rest

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of the season. Here, the six man rotation matters because

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we are probably going to miss a start even if

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they stick with it. But we're really only looking at

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like three to five starts from anybody this point, So

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I don't really mind grabbing somebody who looks as dobins

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as as Tong did in his first start and running

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him out if you're going, you know, if you think

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that that's what you're looking for is to gamble, and

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you know it's a rookie pitcher, there's always a little

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gamble in that. He's not the picture of control, but

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he has very nice upside as we've seen.

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Speaker 3: Also like the uh speaking of like last speaking of

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like next year, with like Young Pictures and the list

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you mentioned, those guys like you want to get in

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on Young Pictures like before they've thrown a lot of innings,

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so it's like it's almost you know, it's like you

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want to you want to jump, you want to be

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in before. You'd prefer it's better to be in before

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than after, you know, because it's like once once it's after,

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you're either you're overpaying for, like you know you're gonna

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overpay for like Cole Reagan's for instance, it was better

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to be in in twenty twenty four than it was

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to be in twenty twenty five. You know, Like it's

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like you want to be in for the first year

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a guy's throwing one hundred and fifty plus innings instead

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of being in in the second year.

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Speaker 2: He's got to do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And I think that even extends to the

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hitters that we've seen, you know, in this in this

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newer era, Like I feel like you want to get

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them very early in their career, especially for our game

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where we're looking at power and speed, you get the

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most steals earlier in their career. You want the Bobby

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Wit you know, thirty forty nine or thirty thirty three,

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thirty two seasons, Like you've got to get those while

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these guys are young, because you never know what happens,

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especially speedstairs. You never can predict what happens there. And

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power hitters, once they lose a little bit of bat

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speed can be real bad too, so kind of swings

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both ways, although power hitters do tend to age a

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little bit more gracefully and can can even develop obviously

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because there it's hits hit tool that they need in

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an understanding, but yes, absolutely, I like Jonah Thong. Next

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year is gonna be fun. Let's talk about Carter Jansen,

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who was called up by the Royals Double A and

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Triple A this year. He had twenty home runs ten stones.

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He hit two ninety three seventy seven five on one,

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just under a twenty five percent strikeout rate, just over

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a twelve percent walk rate. What do you think about

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Carter Jansen.

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Speaker 3: Gray, Yeah, I mean I sort of have the very

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similar feelings to him as I did with Harry Ford.

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I think they you know, sal Perez plays every day

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he can go to move the DH.

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Speaker 2: Even though they brought up.

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Speaker 3: They also well, I think he was actually activated from

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the IAU cagleone, so Jack cagleone got activated, so he's

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kind of in the DH, which we call potential DH

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role as well. But sal Perez really catches every day

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or close to it, so I you know, again it's like,

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how much can Carter Jensen really play? I mean, his

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numbers look great. I think sal Ford's numbers look better

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to me than Jensen. And even though Seattle is not

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a great part for hitting, but Kaufman I think is

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even worse.

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Speaker 2: Kaufman's really terrible. So I yeah, so I don't. I

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don't like he's not gonna be Jensen, that is, it's

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not gonna be helped by the park. He's not helped

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with playing time because of Perez.

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Speaker 3: So I mean again, I feel like this is kind

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of like they called him up as a pat in

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the back and be like, hey, good job. Like you know,

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00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:30,599
hopefully you're you're primed and ready to go for spring

473
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,079
training next year where you have a real opportunity to

474
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,480
win a job. But right now, I just I don't

475
00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:38,279
see the at bats there for him.

476
00:27:39,319 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: Yeah I would, I would agree, I don't. I don't

477
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,319
know that he's necessarily getting a whole lot of the bats.

478
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,400
I mean, if he starts just absolutely on fire, maybe

479
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:52,000
they just fit him in. But again, when you call it,

480
00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:54,400
when they call it a catcher too, that means they're

481
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,839
carrying at least three catchers, usually because they obviously have

482
00:27:58,079 --> 00:28:01,680
two on an active roster or most active rosters. So

483
00:28:02,759 --> 00:28:06,559
it's really hard to get a useful fantasy catcher in

484
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:11,119
that scenario. Maybe Luke Bailey doesn't need to play at

485
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,799
all and Carter Jansen can play regularly, but we'll wait

486
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,720
and see that. You know if he gets a chance.

487
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,240
I do like Carter Chancy, he has always had pretty

488
00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:26,720
good average, he's controlled the strike strikeouts for the most part,

489
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,400
and he takes a walk. So there's a little bit

490
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,440
of everything there with Carter Jansen if he gets the opportunity.

491
00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:37,880
But I don't see it coming this year either. Peyton

492
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,920
Toll was called up by Boston. He's gone across three

493
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,480
levels this year, grade ninety one and two thirds innings

494
00:28:43,759 --> 00:28:46,720
three or four year A nine to nine with thirty

495
00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:49,000
six and a half percent strike out rate, six point

496
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,160
three percent walk rate. He's got a ninety six plus

497
00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:54,720
nine hour fastball cutter, and then he throws a bunch

498
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,640
of kind of random other stuff on occasion. What's your

499
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,799
thoughts on Peyton Toll. So I.

500
00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 3: Don't actually have his excuse me, I don't have his

501
00:29:08,359 --> 00:29:11,960
college numbers in front of me, so I don't know

502
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,240
how many innings he threw in twenty twenty four.

503
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,279
Speaker 2: But it looks like he looks like he has enough

504
00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:20,720
innings to go to the end of the year.

505
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,839
Speaker 3: At least, where you know, like I was saying with Tongue,

506
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,440
I would throttle tongue down a little bit where Tola

507
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,920
looks like he can go to the end of September.

508
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,200
I mean, he's still a young arm so maybe not.

509
00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:35,079
Speaker 1: I you know, I was.

510
00:29:35,799 --> 00:29:36,039
Speaker 2: I was.

511
00:29:36,119 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: I also watched Toley's start too, at least I was

512
00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:42,240
flipping back and forth between Totally and tong Anyway, you know,

513
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,480
he looked excellent as well. He looks like he's he

514
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,880
kind of looked like a you know, well, first of all,

515
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,799
he looked like he was from the seventies. I mean,

516
00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:54,200
he looked like he was from like nineteen seventy eight,

517
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:58,240
and he had like the shaggy hair and mustache to

518
00:29:58,359 --> 00:30:02,279
prove it used to be there. Tola used to have

519
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:08,400
that mustache. Koug's got to me, man, don't don't get married. Yeah,

520
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,079
you know, I like I like Tolay a lot. He

521
00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:15,480
looks like a guy who like could have I kind

522
00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:19,279
of like Tolay more than Tongue big picture as in

523
00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:23,440
like Keeper Leagues and Dynasty, because Totlay looks like I mean,

524
00:30:23,599 --> 00:30:26,960
just looks alone. He looks like Totally looks like he

525
00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:31,599
could throw two hundred innings in like twelve straight seasons.

526
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,519
Like that's you know, obviously, I mean, who knows what happens.

527
00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:38,839
But totally looks like he can handle a workload, right,

528
00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:44,079
Like he he looks like he's he's built for like pitching.

529
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: He looks he looks like he was, you know, throwing

530
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,319
hay baals for practice or something.

531
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he looks like he would.

532
00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:56,359
Speaker 3: He would be the guy who'd be like on the

533
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,960
roof of like a house party, diving off and like

534
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,000
elbowing someone sitting on a chase lounge chair.

535
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,319
Speaker 2: Like he's like, he looks like a monster.

536
00:31:09,759 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 3: I yeah, I mean he he looks he looks backyard

537
00:31:13,559 --> 00:31:19,319
wrestling tole Let's say that he looks like he's basically

538
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:24,640
forty five years old. Yeah, I mean I like him,

539
00:31:25,079 --> 00:31:28,480
but for this so for this year, I mean, Fenway's

540
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:29,119
a tough park.

541
00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: Would I would try him in every league. I don't

542
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:34,960
have a problem with streaming him.

543
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,799
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be shocked if, like, you know, he's you know,

544
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,319
if he a little bit, if he you know, because

545
00:31:42,359 --> 00:31:44,759
it's just like a small sample size, anyone could be

546
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,160
like he was. If he in his first start against

547
00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:50,960
who the Pirates. I mean, so it's like he was fine.

548
00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:54,039
I mean he looked good, but you know it's the Pirates,

549
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,319
and he still was like you know, struggling a little

550
00:31:57,319 --> 00:31:59,160
bit here or there with his command, but I.

551
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: He'll he'll be fine in like the long run. I think,

552
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,519
you know, knock on wood.

553
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,039
Speaker 3: But I I feel like for this year, Tongue and

554
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:15,240
Tola and any picture really is a streamer. So I mean,

555
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:19,039
I like him, but it's with like you know, caveat

556
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:23,720
of like if you need starts, I'm fine dropping Tolay

557
00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:27,240
or if you need to pick him up, I'm fine

558
00:32:27,319 --> 00:32:30,359
trying him as well. So yeah, I mean for this year,

559
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,519
it's really just a matter of matchups.

560
00:32:32,599 --> 00:32:34,079
Speaker 2: But he looks good.

561
00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: I was.

562
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:38,839
Speaker 2: I was seriously impressed with tol for you know, the

563
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,279
five plus innings that he threw.

564
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he did. He looked as you mentioned,

565
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:48,240
it wasn't completely clean, but looked good for what it was.

566
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,400
I just saw a clip of it. I didn't actually

567
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,480
watched the full start, but what I saw looked good.

568
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,119
And you know, the numbers have been very solid. I

569
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,599
will say, talk through one hundred and thirteen last year,

570
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,960
he's still He's at one hundred thirteen now, so he's

571
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,640
kind of where he was last year. I think he

572
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,519
can finish out the season in general. But I also

573
00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:09,519
wouldn't be surprised if they do, maybe a stacked starter

574
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,519
where they use him and McClain back to back and

575
00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:15,240
just kind of throw them each three or four innings.

576
00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:19,119
Tole a. He threw I believe eighty two innings last

577
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,079
year and he's at ninety one, So again, I don't

578
00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:24,079
think there's any problem if they want them to finish

579
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,519
out the season. I think they can. It's just kind

580
00:33:26,519 --> 00:33:28,799
of whether the team needs it at this point or not.

581
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,599
Let's move on to a different topic here, Gray, and

582
00:33:33,759 --> 00:33:36,960
that is some second half strugglers. You know, we've talked

583
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,960
about plenty of players who have been been good in

584
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:43,559
the second half, but let's look forward to next year

585
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,839
and talk about some guys who, you know, we're really

586
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:48,759
good in the first half and not so much here

587
00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:52,000
in the second. Let's start with my Cubs and Kyle Tucker,

588
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,519
who I can only say is on my Cubs for

589
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,720
right now. That may change as soon as the season ends.

590
00:33:58,839 --> 00:34:02,440
But the first half to eighty fourteen home run, twenty

591
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,559
two stone bases, second half two forty two, four home

592
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,639
runs and three stolen bases. He has been dealing with

593
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,440
kind of a finger issue all second half, but that

594
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,719
does that give him a free pass from you? Or

595
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,519
are there any signs of concern for you from Kyle Tucker?

596
00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: Actually, the entire Cubs hitting really strung.

597
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 3: I mean, say, uh, pie Crow, Armstrong, They're all they're

598
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,719
all kind of struggling, really, uh Tucker. I think has

599
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,440
the best excuse out of all of them, though, is

600
00:34:33,519 --> 00:34:37,199
the fact that the finger he's got what a hairline

601
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,800
fracture in his finger, So yeah, maybe that would maybe

602
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,519
that is playing into a little bit. I say, I

603
00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:47,239
actually I'm looking forward to I don't know where he's

604
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,320
gonna land, So there's that like if he lands in

605
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:54,199
I don't know, say Seattle, I won't be as excited

606
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,280
if he lands in, like, you know, Yankee Stadium, Like

607
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,840
you know, my excitement level might be contingent on where

608
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,599
he lands a little bit, Like, well, there's only really

609
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,280
five teams that can afford him.

610
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:13,679
Speaker 2: So Dodgers, the Yankees, the Mets, I don't know, Padres, maybe.

611
00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: They'll just He's going to Dodgers, isn't he.

612
00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 3: That's definitely yeah, He's probably gonna have Dodgers. But anyway, yeah,

613
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,400
I mean Dodger Stadium, Dodger Stadium and Dodger lineup would

614
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,400
be good for him, So he's a little bit contingent

615
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,000
on where he ends up a little bit, not much,

616
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,800
but I think he's actually there could be a buying

617
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,679
opportunity for him next year. I like Kyle Tucker still.

618
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,280
I think, you know, he's had the weird shin thing

619
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,320
last year and then the weird finger thing this year,

620
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,840
which you know, might grade him a little bit in

621
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,719
people's eyes as being like injury prone, but those are

622
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,480
they were really flukey injuries, So I'm not really concerned

623
00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:56,840
about the injuries with him. I think there could be

624
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,760
a buying opportunity potentially if he can hinues to struggle

625
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,679
with the rest of this year, because I don't see

626
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,440
any reason why he can't come out of it and

627
00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:08,400
have a solid year like he was having in the

628
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,039
first half of this year.

629
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,639
Speaker 2: So yeah, I like Kyle Tucker still a lot.

630
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 3: I don't I wouldn't be buying right now for September

631
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,679
because you know, the finger, so I'm not excited about

632
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,519
him for this final month, but I do like him

633
00:36:24,559 --> 00:36:25,519
in the big pitcher still.

634
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, And you know, he's shown this year

635
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,679
he can still do everything and there's nothing really wrong

636
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,559
with that just ends up just depends where he ends

637
00:36:35,639 --> 00:36:38,559
up a little bit. But yes, I agree. Let's move

638
00:36:38,639 --> 00:36:41,880
on to James wood first half two seventy eight, twenty

639
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,320
four runs, twelve stolen bases, twenty seven and a half

640
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,639
percent strikeout rate, fourteen percent walk rate. Then in the

641
00:36:48,679 --> 00:36:51,400
second half he said two thirteen two of runs with

642
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:54,800
three stolen bases, thirty nine percent, strikeout rate, ten percent

643
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,280
walk rate. James Wood was somebody who were both excited

644
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,480
about when we did our second half ranking show, Gray,

645
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,480
But what are your thoughts on James Wood's second half?

646
00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 5: Man a brutal man, you know, like him and James

647
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,440
Wood and Ellie de la Cruz just like completely tanked

648
00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:18,559
my Tout Wars team. And I'm only you can't lose

649
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:23,719
James Wood and Elie dla Cruise. So I I'm struggling

650
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,079
in that league unfortunately.

651
00:37:25,199 --> 00:37:29,039
Speaker 3: Now James Wood is a big part of my struggles too,

652
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,719
So I I and I don't I don't take that lightly.

653
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:38,039
I'm serious, I'm seriously mad. Yeah, it's a brutal man.

654
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,679
I don't know, maybe it's an adjustment period that he's

655
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,920
going through. I mean, you mentioned the numbers, the strikeout rates,

656
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:49,519
incredibly uh, you know, incredibly high. I would say it's

657
00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:52,960
just a situation where it's like a you know, a slump,

658
00:37:53,639 --> 00:37:56,760
begets like a deeper slump, and then before you know it,

659
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,760
you're swinging at everything and it's just like everything is

660
00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:04,480
falling apart and you just need to reset. Maybe the

661
00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:08,519
offseason is the reset that he needs. I think, you know,

662
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,760
unless he really comes out of it in September, I

663
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,119
think he's going to be lower than I expected in

664
00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:17,599
drafts next year, which.

665
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 2: You know, I think that's that'ld be a good thing.

666
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 3: I'm still interested. But you know, if he continues this

667
00:38:24,159 --> 00:38:27,760
sort of you know, downward spiral in September, I want

668
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,079
to be shocked if he barely is in the top

669
00:38:31,159 --> 00:38:33,760
twenty five, like because it looked like he was gonna

670
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:34,679
be a top five player.

671
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 2: But I believe like it is as deep as this

672
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:43,000
slump is. If it continues this deep, it could potentially

673
00:38:43,199 --> 00:38:46,800
lead to him being a little bit undervalued next year.

674
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:49,920
I'm still interested. I you know, he's still too young,

675
00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:54,880
he's too talented. I'm not out like by any stretching imagination.

676
00:38:55,639 --> 00:38:57,039
I also have no.

677
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:01,039
Speaker 3: I have no confidence and him coming out of this

678
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,840
slump though, I mean he's I think today he just

679
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,760
went oh for four again, he goes over four, like

680
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,639
you know every day. It's just brutal. He's been brutal

681
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,280
for the last month plus. But I still have hope

682
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,360
for him in like, you know, deeper leagues for next year.

683
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do too. I don't think this is necessarily

684
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:28,800
in circumstance for him, but it's not a great thing

685
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,400
to see Gray. The strikeout ray was already kind of

686
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,599
high for what we wanted at twenty seven and a

687
00:39:34,639 --> 00:39:37,719
half in the first half, and then for the balloon

688
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,679
just short of forty here in the second half is

689
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,320
not a great look. So he's got to get that

690
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,360
under control. And anytime a strikeout jumps like that, along

691
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,280
with the production drop, it feels like, you know, pitchers

692
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,960
may have figured something out, especially when we're talking about

693
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,360
a player as young as James would that's also adjustment

694
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,719
for him back, you know, he has to figure out

695
00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:59,639
how he covers.

696
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,639
Speaker 3: That, right, Yeah, no completely, And also like that is

697
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,360
that leads you on, You're on, You're teetering the next

698
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,800
year on that's what you're then I become on.

699
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: The precipice of like disaster.

700
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:14,199
Speaker 1: Uh.

701
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 3: And by that, I mean like you could draft him

702
00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:19,960
next year in the top twenty five, and he could

703
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,760
struggle in April, and then that's could be like we

704
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,079
got to send him down he can't figure it out.

705
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: And then and then it's like disaster time.

706
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. Then it's uh, then you're ruined and another season

707
00:40:33,519 --> 00:40:36,400
and that's that's not good. Letting somebody ruin you in

708
00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:39,760
back to back seasons is pretty tough. It's a it's

709
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,760
tough pill to swallow. Gray Again, he's young, he's super talented,

710
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,840
he has, you know, a professional team around him. They

711
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,400
should be able to figure out how to cover it,

712
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,639
you know. I think I think it's primarily uh, just

713
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,000
being the the low and inside and low and away,

714
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,840
so having having problems with a low part of the

715
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,480
right now, just you'll figure it out, I think. But

716
00:41:03,639 --> 00:41:07,360
let's move on to another cup here, and I guess

717
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,400
we can just I'll just ask you, like it's say

718
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,039
a Suzuki. The numbers aren't good. He's hit two or

719
00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:13,760
three to two of them were on two stone bases

720
00:41:14,039 --> 00:41:17,079
in the second half. Is this just a Cubs thing

721
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:19,920
or are you concerned about Sazuki at all?

722
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: Uh?

723
00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:22,079
Speaker 1: No?

724
00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:25,119
Speaker 3: You know, I think this is kind of just like

725
00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:27,960
an I want to say, this is like the ebbs

726
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,679
and flows of a normal season with Saya s Azuki,

727
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,400
because he was he was extraordinarily good in the first half,

728
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,679
and now he's been extraordinarily bad. But when you put

729
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:43,679
him together, he's had a pretty much a Saya Suzuki season,

730
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,320
except for the fact that his average is a little

731
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,000
bit low. But his babbitt is a little bit low.

732
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,840
He's you know, he's making hard enough contact. I feel

733
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,559
like he's where he was a little bit lucky in

734
00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:02,079
the first half, he's now a little unlucky. H he

735
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,360
has been fortunate enough to stay healthy and his power

736
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,920
has been up. So yeah, I mean I think I

737
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,159
think if he ends the year with like, say, thirty

738
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:18,119
two homers, seven steals and two fifty five average, I

739
00:42:18,199 --> 00:42:20,239
think everyone in the beginning of the season would have

740
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,920
taken that. So I feel like you're you're getting sort

741
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:24,440
of like the.

742
00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:27,079
Speaker 2: Ups and downs of a Saya Suzuki season.

743
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 3: But in reality, at the end of the day, he's

744
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,360
just gonna have a solid year and when you put

745
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,400
it all together, So I don't mind Saya Suzuki.

746
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 2: Right now, but if you.

747
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 3: But I also feel like he's not undroppable for me

748
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,559
in shallower leagues, like if you have better options than

749
00:42:46,639 --> 00:42:50,000
say as Azuki, I'm fine moving on from him this

750
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,400
year because he has struggled so much, and at the

751
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,199
end of the day, like the projections say he's gonna

752
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,760
hit four homers, steal two bags, and hit two sixty

753
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,159
of the rest of the way, that's that's replaceable in

754
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,519
shallower leagues if you can try and find if you

755
00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:08,519
can find a hot bat, I could see moving on.

756
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,119
But I mean he's I think at the end of

757
00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:14,719
the day, he's gonna be fine. I just think this

758
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,800
is a normal sort of slump for him.

759
00:43:18,039 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, would you drop a saying for South Stewart? No, Yeah,

760
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,559
I wouldn't either. Let's move on to Jeremy Pania. First half,

761
00:43:28,639 --> 00:43:30,559
he hit three twenty two with eleven home runs and

762
00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:33,920
fifteen stolen bases. In the second half, he has hit

763
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,559
two fifty two with three home runs and four stolen bases.

764
00:43:37,159 --> 00:43:39,880
We thought the breakout was here, Gray, We were kind

765
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:44,079
of really excited about Jeremy Penia finally fulfilling what we

766
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:47,000
thought he could be. And it's it's kind of back

767
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:49,960
to Jeremy Pagne now, yeah.

768
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:55,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. I mean he seemed like it

769
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:55,800
was like.

770
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 3: The precipice of becoming a thirty thirty twenty three hundred hitter,

771
00:44:04,639 --> 00:44:07,719
but in reality he is just kind of like a

772
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:12,280
fifteen twenty two seventy hitter at the end of the day,

773
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:13,239
which is fine.

774
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,519
Speaker 2: I mean it's kind of like, uh, you know, top

775
00:44:17,679 --> 00:44:20,199
twelve in am I.

776
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 3: Maybe you know, top fifteen shortstop, top top twelve shortstop.

777
00:44:26,519 --> 00:44:29,599
I mean it's not it's not awful. It's just not

778
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:36,440
it's not a top three type shortstop or a guy

779
00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:39,360
who's like, you know, breaking out. I mean, he's his

780
00:44:39,559 --> 00:44:42,400
breakout is like he just doesn't have he doesn't have

781
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,960
the seat. He doesn't really have a huge ceiling. He's

782
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:47,800
you know, a lot it's a lot lower of a

783
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,400
ceiling I think than maybe.

784
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,599
Speaker 2: Maybe we thought in the first half. But yeah, I

785
00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:55,519
mean he's he's okay.

786
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 3: I I think I recently said he was drop a

787
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,639
ball on the and I stay with I stick with

788
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,000
that too, like if you if you can find a

789
00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:07,880
better AM I right now, I'm fine moving on from

790
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,559
Jeremy Paynya. I don't I don't think anything you're gonna

791
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:13,239
get from him is anything special either, like you know

792
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,079
his projection, say, he's gonna hit three homers and three

793
00:45:16,199 --> 00:45:18,920
steal and steal three bags the rest of the way.

794
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,519
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's like, eh, you could find

795
00:45:22,559 --> 00:45:26,360
that elsewhere if you're in a shallow enough league. I'm

796
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,079
also fine, you know, holding on to him. If if

797
00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:31,239
you're in a deep enough league and you need it,

798
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,440
it's like, you go with it. You do what you

799
00:45:34,519 --> 00:45:38,000
gotta do. But I feel like there's probably guys that

800
00:45:38,199 --> 00:45:40,400
you can move on from.

801
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: Now, you know.

802
00:45:41,519 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 2: And also with the Jeremy Payna, I just I think

803
00:45:45,519 --> 00:45:48,719
he is what he is at this point.

804
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: Like you know, we've seen now four seasons of him

805
00:45:53,159 --> 00:45:56,880
do almost nearly identical stuff, Like every year he does

806
00:45:57,079 --> 00:46:00,880
kind of the same thing, you know, plus orus three

807
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,800
with power and speed.

808
00:46:03,079 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, I mean, he he is that player.

809
00:46:06,559 --> 00:46:09,679
Speaker 3: He's just he had a high babbit in the first

810
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,840
half that kind of led to a bit higher of

811
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,000
an average. But I don't think he's really I don't

812
00:46:17,039 --> 00:46:20,079
think he's really a three hundred plus hitter, and I

813
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,519
don't I don't think he has that much power or speed.

814
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I would agree. I don't think he's

815
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:31,599
he's really maxing out either side of the power speed combo,

816
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,519
and the average I think probably ends up somewhere in

817
00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:37,679
the two eighty five range this year, which will be

818
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,519
you know, his career best average, But as you mentioned,

819
00:46:41,559 --> 00:46:45,519
it's with a high Babbitt, very high in the first half. Specifically,

820
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:48,599
you know, strikeout rate continues to get better. So just

821
00:46:49,039 --> 00:46:52,000
from a pure hitter standpoint, that's nice to see from

822
00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:55,360
him and kind of is what has helped become, you know,

823
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,880
make this a better start to the season. But now

824
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:04,280
we're back again to pretty standard Jeremy Payne. You look here,

825
00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:08,679
very solid millin fielder, But I don't know that you're

826
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,400
you're you know, reaching for him in drafts as as

827
00:47:12,519 --> 00:47:17,280
he some people have in previous seasons. Speaking of reaching

828
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,280
four in drafts, Gray Lawrence Butler went two fifty one,

829
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,880
thirteen home runs, sixteen stolen bases in the first half.

830
00:47:24,519 --> 00:47:26,760
In the second half, grade he has hit one seventy

831
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:31,199
five with five home runs in a stolen base. I

832
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,719
think everybody was a little iffy on Lawrence Butler to

833
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:38,119
begin the season. It was a little shaky right out

834
00:47:38,119 --> 00:47:39,880
of the gate, and then he kind of got together.

835
00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:43,519
Is he just a streaky player and this is the

836
00:47:43,679 --> 00:47:46,920
Lawrence Butler experience or are you just going to be

837
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,920
out on the Lawrence Butler experience from there on?

838
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:52,639
Speaker 2: Yeah?

839
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,599
Speaker 3: I actually I trained Lawrence Butler. I think at the

840
00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:00,360
at the break this year, and before people think about

841
00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:04,039
me actually being smart, I traded him for Michael Bush,

842
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,400
who's also been awful.

843
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: Yes, So so don't get any misconceptions in your head

844
00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:16,519
that I know what I'm doing. I mean, actually I

845
00:48:16,639 --> 00:48:18,920
kind of like Lawrence Butler as a bounce back for

846
00:48:19,039 --> 00:48:19,440
next year.

847
00:48:19,559 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 3: I think there there could be something here because like

848
00:48:22,679 --> 00:48:25,840
he upped his walks, the k's are the key's got

849
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,559
a little bit high, but he has a lot of speed.

850
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:34,679
I don't think and and bing bong in Sacktown. I mean,

851
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,480
the stadium in Sacktown is so beautiful. I can't I

852
00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:43,800
can't stop raving about how wonderful that park is for power.

853
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,320
So if he gets into a few for next year

854
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:52,199
and shows off more of his speed and gets a

855
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,599
little bit lucky on Babbitt, I mean, I don't know.

856
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,440
I kind of like the Lawrence Butler experience for next year.

857
00:48:58,519 --> 00:49:02,920
I'm I'm interested now. I feel like there could be

858
00:49:03,159 --> 00:49:06,559
more there, and he's young enough. What is he twenty

859
00:49:06,639 --> 00:49:09,920
four right now, actually just turned twenty five, but still

860
00:49:10,119 --> 00:49:10,679
twenty five.

861
00:49:11,159 --> 00:49:12,639
Speaker 2: He's in the prime of his career.

862
00:49:13,199 --> 00:49:18,079
Speaker 3: I like Lawrence Butler still, but yeah, this Lawrence Butler experience,

863
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,199
for like in September is no good.

864
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 2: This is not good. I would look to move on.

865
00:49:25,159 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 3: In shallower leagues if I had Lawrence Butler, Like he's

866
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,519
at this point, he's getting platooned, so he's not playing

867
00:49:32,599 --> 00:49:34,960
every day, he's hitting at the bottom of the lineup,

868
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:35,519
like he.

869
00:49:35,679 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 2: Needs a reset.

870
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 3: He needs to come back next year, do well in

871
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,199
spring training, sit at the top of the lineup in April,

872
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,199
and hit the ground running.

873
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 2: And he can do that. I believe that. But for

874
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,039
right now, I don't want any part of Lawrence Butler.

875
00:49:54,199 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: No, I don't want it right now. The Laman to

876
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,719
strike out rate is up here in the second half.

877
00:49:59,199 --> 00:50:01,800
But the good news at least looking towards next year,

878
00:50:02,519 --> 00:50:05,679
like hard hit is within one percentage, bail ray is

879
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,519
actually up, which is you know, a little finicky here

880
00:50:08,599 --> 00:50:12,960
with such small samples. Average exit velocity is like one

881
00:50:13,039 --> 00:50:17,679
point three off, So really he's been very similar in

882
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,599
the way his batted ball has looked. But the two

883
00:50:20,679 --> 00:50:24,039
twenty one babbitt versus three twenty six Babbitt, you know,

884
00:50:24,159 --> 00:50:28,679
that's hitting herding into that one seventy five average. So yes,

885
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,320
I think ods Butler could potentially be okay next year,

886
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,280
but it's really hard to watch what he's doing right now.

887
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:35,599
Speaker 4: Gray.

888
00:50:36,679 --> 00:50:39,159
Speaker 1: Speaking of somebody who's who has been really tough to

889
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,719
watch pretty much since April ended, Gray, and that is

890
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:47,480
O'Neill Cruz. I will you know, I thought we were

891
00:50:47,559 --> 00:50:50,920
often running with the O'Dell Cruz breakout in April. He

892
00:50:51,159 --> 00:50:56,360
was absolutely amazing, and then it's just it's falling apart.

893
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,719
He won it out of Pittsburgh, and then there were

894
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,400
some rumors he was, you know, taking his play for

895
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:06,119
that purpose. But it's not been basically the whole season

896
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,840
other than April. What are your thoughts on odeal Cruise?

897
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,719
Do we need to accept he's just a tall rootin

898
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,920
in odor, a.

899
00:51:16,199 --> 00:51:18,599
Speaker 2: Tall rooting on door nice?

900
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 3: Uh god, what that's all? That's awful. That's a terrible

901
00:51:26,119 --> 00:51:29,320
comp man. That's a kind of comp where if O'Neil

902
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,880
Cruis was listening to this, if I were him, I

903
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,480
would come to your house, you know, I would be like,

904
00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:35,360
you know what, you need.

905
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 1: To get there and work on your strikeouts.

906
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,039
Speaker 2: Man, that's on your eye. Work on your eye, bro.

907
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,920
You know you know what I'm saying. It started and

908
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,760
stuff hit my face first.

909
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 3: You know.

910
00:51:49,039 --> 00:51:52,079
Speaker 2: O'Neil Cruiz is a guy who I just love, right,

911
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,440
I mean, he's just yeah, I think we both like him.

912
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,159
I mean, I'm so I'm such a huge fan.

913
00:51:58,039 --> 00:52:02,559
Speaker 3: But he's he's been miserable to roster. He's really not

914
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,199
good when it comes to like for fantasy. It's just

915
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:11,559
like it's been brutal, man. I mean it's just yeah,

916
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,360
outside of April, I mean it's.

917
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 1: Just I don't know.

918
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:20,639
Speaker 3: I wonder, I wonder what this is gonna like next

919
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,639
year because if you take April way, I mean, man,

920
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,960
his stats really just they just really bottom out. Like

921
00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:32,559
if you take April away, like how okay, so you

922
00:52:32,679 --> 00:52:35,239
can't just take all the way, but if you were to,

923
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:41,000
and he's sitting at eleven eleven homers and twenty four

924
00:52:41,159 --> 00:52:46,920
steals since May first, Like what that's awful, man. I

925
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,840
Mean for a guy who's going, you know, in the

926
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,280
top thirty or whatever overall in drafts.

927
00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I might sit out the O'Neill crew.

928
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,079
Speaker 3: It depends on where you go in drafts. Next year,

929
00:53:01,159 --> 00:53:02,880
he's gonna be a he's gonna be a hard one

930
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,360
to uh, you know, to get totally invested in, because.

931
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 2: This really, I mean as you as you said, I

932
00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:13,119
mean really from May through.

933
00:53:13,199 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 3: Well, at this point, August May through August, it's just

934
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,480
been so miserable, Like how do you get in on

935
00:53:18,639 --> 00:53:21,400
that in the top I don't know where's he going?

936
00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 2: Top sixty.

937
00:53:22,519 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 3: Maybe next year he's gonna he's gotta fall a few

938
00:53:25,519 --> 00:53:27,199
rounds from you know, he's.

939
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 1: Not I was saying, I was thinking might fall further

940
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,159
than that, just because there's already a group of people

941
00:53:31,199 --> 00:53:34,559
who absolutely despise him and this isn't helping.

942
00:53:35,039 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so say top seventy five, top eighty. I

943
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,519
don't know, even if it's a top one hundred, it's

944
00:53:41,559 --> 00:53:45,320
still like it's it's a struggle because it's not like

945
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,920
the strikeouts are just something that just appeared. I mean,

946
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,679
he's had this problem for his entire career, Like this

947
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,199
is not this is not a new thing for him,

948
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,159
and now it's got to the point where, you know,

949
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:04,320
he's hitting two A four. He had you know, injuries

950
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:10,199
in previous years. Outside of April, he's been really terrible.

951
00:54:10,639 --> 00:54:12,599
So it's not like like you're not and you're not

952
00:54:12,639 --> 00:54:15,360
gonna get to March of next year and be like, well,

953
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,360
he was good in April, so that's good.

954
00:54:17,639 --> 00:54:20,679
Speaker 2: Like that's not that's not gonna be appealing in drafts.

955
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,199
So I don't know, man, I might be out on

956
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:28,800
the O'Neill Cruiz experience next year. It could potentially be

957
00:54:29,679 --> 00:54:31,159
I'm and I'm not sold.

958
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 3: He's like this year, if you know, we're going like

959
00:54:35,199 --> 00:54:40,079
it looks like he's platooning out versus lefties, so he's

960
00:54:40,119 --> 00:54:43,719
not even facing lefties anymore. He's hitting at the bottom

961
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,679
of a Pirates lineup, a lineup that isn't good, and

962
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,280
he's hitting at like seventh in a Pirates lineup, Like

963
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,360
what that's a mess, man, that's not good. I could

964
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,079
actually I could see dropping O'Neil Cruz if you're in

965
00:54:58,159 --> 00:55:02,480
a shallow enough league this year and say I wouldn't

966
00:55:02,519 --> 00:55:04,960
say all leagues, I'd probably hold him in twelve team

967
00:55:05,079 --> 00:55:08,119
or deeper. But if you're in a ten team mix league,

968
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,599
like I don't know what do you what do you

969
00:55:09,679 --> 00:55:12,840
holding him for? The occasional Homer. I don't know if

970
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,280
he's got a big month in them, but I don't

971
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:17,079
know he could.

972
00:55:17,199 --> 00:55:22,199
Speaker 2: I guess, uh. It's it's bad though, He's he's so fun.

973
00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:24,639
But man, is his stats terrible?

974
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been. It's been terrible owning him, and really

975
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:33,400
if without the speed, he would be impossible to own.

976
00:55:33,559 --> 00:55:36,480
But the stolen base is just it keep him just

977
00:55:36,679 --> 00:55:39,639
valuable enough if you're just looking around at one else

978
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:44,039
is out there, especially in deeper leagues. Let's talk about

979
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,199
another top player and then you know this guy was,

980
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,599
you know, not top three rounds, he was a top

981
00:55:50,679 --> 00:55:54,199
three player Gray, and that is Elie day Light Cruz.

982
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,239
He had two eighty four eighteen them runs, twenty five

983
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,039
stolen bases in the first half. In the second and

984
00:56:00,119 --> 00:56:02,079
half he is at two forty six. He has a

985
00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:07,320
home run in seven stolen bases. Awful. I don't know,

986
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,679
I don't know what's going on here, Gray, But his

987
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,199
his April was better than his entire second half has

988
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:13,760
been as well.

989
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, man, it hasn't been great. Oh, I'll be honest,

990
00:56:19,079 --> 00:56:23,719
it's not good. Him and James Wood have really just

991
00:56:24,079 --> 00:56:28,440
killed my entire second half. I was I was cruising

992
00:56:28,519 --> 00:56:33,000
in tow wars man, I was cruising and uh yeah,

993
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:38,400
Elie dela Cruise as uh he's cruise missiled me.

994
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 2: I yeah, I mean I think I'm a little bit easier.

995
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 3: I'm giving Ellie a little bit more of a pass

996
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,119
than O'Neil Cruz because I do think the uh you know,

997
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,159
the speed is so incredible with Elie de la Cruz

998
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:59,079
and the power. While while the power in the second

999
00:56:59,119 --> 00:57:03,320
half has been miser well, the park's really good. He

1000
00:57:03,639 --> 00:57:06,880
continues to, like you mentioned, like he hit two forty

1001
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,000
six in the second half, so he's not like he's

1002
00:57:09,079 --> 00:57:11,719
bottomed out to like he's not hitting like one eighty

1003
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,119
in the second half, Like he's he's still.

1004
00:57:14,039 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: Getting on base nearly a quarter of the time.

1005
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,119
Speaker 3: He's got speed he can. I feel like he could

1006
00:57:21,159 --> 00:57:24,760
still turn it on. So I'm I'm holding out hope.

1007
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 2: For a decent September from Ellie d la Cruz.

1008
00:57:28,519 --> 00:57:32,599
Speaker 3: But again, like I've been watching the box scores for

1009
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,599
him and James Wood all August and it's just like

1010
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,719
one oh for four after another, oh for four, lots

1011
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:40,639
of oh for fours.

1012
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,039
Speaker 2: Man not not great.

1013
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:47,079
Speaker 3: So I still have faith in Ellie more so than

1014
00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:51,079
I do in O'Neill. I think Ellie Ellie at least,

1015
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,039
you know, the strikeouts aren't insane, like yeah, like what

1016
00:57:55,159 --> 00:57:58,079
we were saying with O'Neil, Cruz and uh or even

1017
00:57:58,199 --> 00:58:01,880
James Wood. I mean, James Wood straightouts are absolutely insane.

1018
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:02,599
Speaker 2: But Ellie's.

1019
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 3: You know, while Ellie's strikeouts did go up in the

1020
00:58:06,559 --> 00:58:10,360
second half, they're still under thirty percent. I mean, for

1021
00:58:11,159 --> 00:58:14,360
whatever that's worth. But he's hitting two forty six. I

1022
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,639
mean it's like, you know, it's not great obviously, but

1023
00:58:18,519 --> 00:58:19,679
I still have faith.

1024
00:58:21,159 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really just that the power and speed of disappeared.

1025
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,559
I mean, if you give him the power speedback and

1026
00:58:26,599 --> 00:58:29,119
he hits two forty five, that's not the end of

1027
00:58:29,159 --> 00:58:31,039
the world. But the fact that the power speed is

1028
00:58:31,159 --> 00:58:36,360
now gone for some reason, that's that's just a killer.

1029
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,800
When the average is also dropping from the first half.

1030
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,599
At the same time, let's go ahead and move over

1031
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,400
to the sagn Off. Let's just talk about some closers.

1032
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:52,079
Gray over in Cincinnati, Emilia Pagan. We've all been waiting

1033
00:58:52,199 --> 00:58:55,039
for the other shoe to drop, and it might have

1034
00:58:55,199 --> 00:58:58,920
finally dropped Gray, he gave a three earned blew a save.

1035
00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:03,280
He's not exactly been, you know, the cleanest of closers

1036
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,559
this season. Do you think that Cincinnati is finally due

1037
00:59:06,599 --> 00:59:09,039
for a change, Well.

1038
00:59:09,239 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 3: They should have probably swapped him out for a Centillan

1039
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:17,159
back in like August, the beginning of August. I mean

1040
00:59:17,199 --> 00:59:19,480
it's or at least middle of August. It's been a

1041
00:59:19,559 --> 00:59:22,480
couple of weeks now where Pegan has just not looked right.

1042
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,559
I would I would if I were speculating and I

1043
00:59:26,719 --> 00:59:31,039
really needed saves, I would go for Tony Santillan. I

1044
00:59:31,159 --> 00:59:34,199
think he's probably the guy who's going to get the

1045
00:59:34,239 --> 00:59:37,599
next save with Cincinnati, if if not the next one,

1046
00:59:38,039 --> 00:59:40,800
and then they try and work Pegan back in, or

1047
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,679
Santillan's just going to get the rest of the saves

1048
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,920
like I I or or Pagans just gonna get removed

1049
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,199
and they're going to do a committee, but Santilaan's going

1050
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,840
to be the head of that committee. There's the Pegan

1051
00:59:53,039 --> 00:59:55,840
just has not looked right. He hasn't been He couldn't

1052
00:59:55,840 --> 01:00:00,880
even get through an inning today like Monday, as we

1053
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,000
record this on Monday, like he looked awful.

1054
01:00:04,239 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 2: He was giving.

1055
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,599
Speaker 3: He gave up a home run to Boba Schett, I mean,

1056
01:00:07,679 --> 01:00:09,880
come on, our nemesis, really.

1057
01:00:10,719 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 2: Come on, man, And then he gave up another homer

1058
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,360
and then they had the poem from the game because

1059
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,760
he just couldn't make it. He couldn't get anyone out.

1060
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,440
I mean, it's like ridiculous. So yeah, I would I

1061
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:28,159
would say Pegan's in trouble. Santillan would be the guy

1062
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,599
who I would uh who I'd be rostering right now.

1063
01:00:32,159 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Santillan is is probably the right call.

1064
01:00:36,039 --> 01:00:38,119
I guess if you're in a deep league where you're

1065
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,920
looking at the next guy, even if you know probably

1066
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,639
only at that point. Scott Barlow has been really good

1067
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,239
as well as Tony Santillan, so I think he would

1068
01:00:48,239 --> 01:00:52,199
be the one if it's not Santillan when they look

1069
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:53,920
to make it, or if they look to make a

1070
01:00:54,079 --> 01:00:58,599
change there. Let's move over to Arizona. Gray Andrew saw

1071
01:00:58,679 --> 01:01:01,519
Frank has been you know, getting saves. I think for

1072
01:01:01,559 --> 01:01:03,559
the last couple of weeks. He got one this week

1073
01:01:03,639 --> 01:01:06,760
as well. Do you think we have a closer in

1074
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,199
Arizona and the mess is finally over for now? Or

1075
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,719
is this just a one save and he happened to

1076
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:14,159
be the guy.

1077
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would say I'd probably put him

1078
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,880
at like sixty forty. Probably South Frank is the closer,

1079
01:01:22,599 --> 01:01:25,840
and you know, sixty percent of the time he's the

1080
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:30,360
closer and forty percent he's not. I don't know who

1081
01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:33,760
would really be the other guy. It's probably be a

1082
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,280
committee behind him.

1083
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 2: So it's like.

1084
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:42,039
Speaker 3: South Frank and the Pussycats. I don't it's South Frank

1085
01:01:42,079 --> 01:01:46,159
and whoever else is there. I would say more than likely.

1086
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,280
You know, I wouldn't go deeper than South Frank for

1087
01:01:51,199 --> 01:01:55,000
you know, speculation, unless it's like NL only and then

1088
01:01:55,199 --> 01:01:59,920
maybe I guess Woodford or Bacchus possibly, But yeah.

1089
01:01:59,719 --> 01:02:02,519
Speaker 2: I would I would go Self Frank, though, is rosterable

1090
01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:03,440
I think at this point.

1091
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Let's move over to Dodger Land Gray,

1092
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:13,000
where we've been trying to speculate for pretty much all season.

1093
01:02:13,599 --> 01:02:17,719
Who the closer is. Tanner Scott the guy. Now he

1094
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,360
got to save this week, but also did not look

1095
01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:24,639
particularly good in his second outing when he gave up

1096
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,960
three earned runs. Is it Tanner Scott? Is it still

1097
01:02:28,159 --> 01:02:31,039
just a parade of arms? What are your thoughts?

1098
01:02:31,599 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1099
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,199
Speaker 2: After Tanner Scott gave up to three runs.

1100
01:02:34,719 --> 01:02:36,599
Speaker 3: I think it was on Sunday that was the point

1101
01:02:36,639 --> 01:02:38,719
where I dropped Tanner Scott from my team.

1102
01:02:39,079 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 2: I was done. I'm done at that point.

1103
01:02:41,679 --> 01:02:44,239
Speaker 3: It's like I can't, I can't handle any more of

1104
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,519
these blow ups. I didn't need this, but in that

1105
01:02:47,719 --> 01:02:50,599
league specifically, I didn't need to save that much. So

1106
01:02:51,199 --> 01:02:54,119
this is a it'll be a fantasy team by team

1107
01:02:54,239 --> 01:02:57,559
basis a type situation where if you really need the saves,

1108
01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:01,079
you can go with Tanner Scott and try to get

1109
01:03:01,119 --> 01:03:01,960
saves out of him.

1110
01:03:02,039 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 2: But I didn't need the saves. I think Blake Trining's been.

1111
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:14,159
Speaker 3: Perfectly named guy because Roberts has been trying him all

1112
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:21,159
year to get him saves that ain't working really, you know, Bondas,

1113
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,760
I mean, they have some decent arms behind all these guys,

1114
01:03:25,199 --> 01:03:27,119
but no one's really stepping up.

1115
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm guessing it is Tanner Scott, but I.

1116
01:03:31,679 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 3: Don't even I don't even want the headache of trying

1117
01:03:34,039 --> 01:03:36,559
to get the saves anymore from Tanner Scott because he's

1118
01:03:36,599 --> 01:03:40,039
been I mean, he's been kind of miserable, and you know,

1119
01:03:40,239 --> 01:03:43,440
I think it was Sunday that was like the last

1120
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:44,079
straw for me.

1121
01:03:44,239 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm done.

1122
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I would completely agree with you, and I

1123
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,079
don't think I would necessarily want to hold on Tanner Scott.

1124
01:03:53,119 --> 01:03:55,760
It looks like there's something wrong with him, and as

1125
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:59,639
we mentioned, it's kind of a bad situation for closers. Anyways,

1126
01:03:59,719 --> 01:04:03,559
they just throw whoever happens to be, you know, whoever

1127
01:04:03,639 --> 01:04:07,320
they want that day. Could be Casparius, could be Jack Dryer,

1128
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,960
could be banned. Any of them could get an opportunity.

1129
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,639
And honestly, the three, the three non Tanner Scott options

1130
01:04:14,679 --> 01:04:17,559
have been better than Tanner Scott. So at some point

1131
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,679
they've got to look somewhere else. You on would think

1132
01:04:20,719 --> 01:04:23,880
they're you know, they're looking to win something more than

1133
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:28,920
just a regular season title there in Dodger Land. Let's

1134
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:33,719
move over to the dreaded Saint Louis Cardinals. Gray Jojo

1135
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,679
Romero has been kind of this the closer there is

1136
01:04:37,719 --> 01:04:40,559
he locked in now? Is it? Is it official? Or

1137
01:04:40,679 --> 01:04:44,679
do you think there's still some some different arms here

1138
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:49,199
getting save opportunities because we've seen three people in a

1139
01:04:49,239 --> 01:04:50,760
week get save opportunities.

1140
01:04:52,039 --> 01:04:54,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, lady looks pretty good.

1141
01:04:55,239 --> 01:04:58,519
Speaker 3: Riley O'Brien looks pretty good and Romero looks pretty good,

1142
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:02,239
and I don't I don't think there's a favorite amongst them.

1143
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,800
I would I would if I had to, I would

1144
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:09,480
say Romero, O'Brien, Lahey in that order, but it could

1145
01:05:09,519 --> 01:05:13,199
easily be reversed by next week.

1146
01:05:13,679 --> 01:05:17,199
Speaker 2: So I don't mind any of them. But they're all

1147
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,159
sort of they seem like they're in a straight committee

1148
01:05:20,239 --> 01:05:21,920
where they're just you know, throwing.

1149
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,079
Speaker 3: It depends on what the day is on who gets

1150
01:05:25,119 --> 01:05:27,639
thrown out there in the seventh, who gets thrown out

1151
01:05:27,639 --> 01:05:29,280
in the eighth, and who gets thrown out of the ninth.

1152
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:33,239
So yeah, I don't mind them, but I wouldn't I

1153
01:05:33,239 --> 01:05:34,800
wouldn't be able to tell you who's going to get

1154
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:35,719
the next save there either.

1155
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and for what it's worth, Riley O'Brien will be

1156
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:41,079
shut down for a few days after having a little

1157
01:05:41,079 --> 01:05:43,079
bit of an arm issue, so at least for the

1158
01:05:43,159 --> 01:05:47,119
next few days it'll be a little slightly clear, but

1159
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,559
still not clear at all. Gray, let's move over to

1160
01:05:50,639 --> 01:05:52,440
the waiver wire. Give the people some bats.

1161
01:05:53,159 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, okay, So it looks like Matt Wollner is

1162
01:05:58,119 --> 01:06:00,840
near the top on the seven day player right now

1163
01:06:01,079 --> 01:06:04,360
for guys who aren't rostered in one hundred percent.

1164
01:06:04,159 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 2: Of their leagues.

1165
01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 3: Uh, then you have Josh Young, Jorge Polonko, Kyle Higga Shoka.

1166
01:06:11,719 --> 01:06:18,800
What Kyle Higgas Shioko Higgas Shioka is somehow hot?

1167
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 2: I guess I don't remember when that happened.

1168
01:06:21,079 --> 01:06:24,559
Speaker 3: Anyway, Moving on, Jack Peterson's been hot, Ian Half's been hot,

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Gavin Sheetz has been hot, Jackson Merril just came back.

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That might hurt his playing time. Drake Balwin's been hot.

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Lazy Alexander's been hot, Andrew Monticro has been hot for

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the Brewers, but Cheerio just came back, so that might

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hurt his playing time a little bit. Luis Torrence has

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been hot, Mike Yastremsky has been hot, Andres jmenez Ido Lopez,

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Helio Ramos, Josh Low, Jake Croninworth and.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying his name, okay, Nolan Jones has been hot.

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Speaker 3: I really don't even want to say his name though,

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because I mean, I can't trust that.

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Speaker 1: You've just cursed everybody. Now, thanks, thanks for that, all right,

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some streaming streaming pitchers. It's not it's not a great

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matchups week if I'm honest, Justin Erlin or at Saint Louis,

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Ian Seymour versus Cleveland, Michael McGreevy versus San Francisco, Martine

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Prez at Detroit, Ryan burge Berger versus the Angels, Andrew

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Alvares he's actually pitching right now, or he finished up

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today in a really good start versus Miami, and then

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he gets the Cubs later in the week. Max Schurzer,

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if he's healthy, I think he's going at New York,

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which is not great. So I'm actually gonna pull that

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recommendation right now before that happens to be terrible. Uh,

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And I'll say that's it right now. The rest of

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these matchups are not aperball. Gray, I'm not gonna recommend

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people go get bombed here in September. It's a great

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streaming time, but you have to know when to when

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the hold them and when the fold them.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: This might be a fold them week and and and

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save up or throw throw some multi inning relievers out there.

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And Edwin you say that, you know you can always

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throw him out. He's been phenomenal and is just available

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in every league because nobody wants them. Absolutely if you

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have any specific questions, you can always find us on Twitter.

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I am at rasbeat On. Gray is the owner of

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the at rasball account. You can find us on YouTube

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dot com, slash rasball Fantasy, the comments section on rasball

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dot com. May you win all your head to head matchups,

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May your lineups be perfect, and I will talk to

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you next week, Gray leads, I miss you. You f