Speaker 1: I want to welcome everyone back to the Pea Show.
Stormy Waters is back. How you doing, Stormy?
Speaker 2: I'm doing good. I'm doing good.
Speaker 1: Now about yourself doing good? Doing good? So this is
probably a little different than some of the appearances you've
been making lately. Yeah, how did you put it? You
just put it right before we started it, right before
I hit record. Let's talk about WASP history and specifically,
let's look for some heroes in the past that some
people may have overlooked as heroes. You've you've gone down
that rabbit hole, right.
Speaker 2: Yes, I have. I as a member of this class
that everyone seems to forget existed. I very much focus on,
you know, kind of the better years of my people
before we were, before we took our eye off the ball.
Speaker 1: What's really interesting, though, is is that you know one
specific group you know we're going to look at is uh. Yeah.
I think most people who would be listening to this
would definitely think that they were they were villains and
they tried to do something, they tried to do something awful,
and you you'll you'll be happy to know that I am.
I gave I gave my lovely bride an overview of
this today and she's like, oh, what could have been?
Speaker 2: Yes, what could have been? I bet you, Like I
talked to a couple of guys in our scene about this,
and nobody has any idea that this happened. So what
I hope to do with you? Pete over you know,
probably you know this episode and maybe a couple others
go through the fascist America that could have been and
what was called in the press at the time the
business plot. And it would probably surprise a lot of
people that are listening to this that not only were there,
let's put this way that they've all heard of, like
of Charles Lindberg and America First, but there was a
lot more to it than that. And Charles Lindberg didn't
just up and get the idea of America first. America
first was the second at bat right, the plan be,
so to speak of unfortunately, probably the most villainized people
American history outside of well in you know, contemporary history,
outside of Adolf Hitler, right, Like you're supposed to hate
you know, Uncle Adolph, and you're supposed to hate Mussolini. Yeah,
that's correct, And you're supposed to hate guys like John
Pierpont Morgan and David Rockefeller as villains. Right, these are
robber barons. Right, We're we're forced to, like a lot
of us, come through at least some level of conspiratory
land to get to where we are, right, Like, it
takes a while going down all these different rabbit holes
and you get to your final one. At the final one,
you realize, like, who's really at the bottom of all
of this? And then then you switch. Well, some people
will stay and can see iratard land, and this is
like I view, these are like the people that view
that certain group as omnipotent and all knowing and that
resistance is futile. Like, those are the conspirators that got
to the bottom of the rabbit hole and didn't get
the urge that people like me got or people like
you got, because one or two things is going to happen.
You're going to get to the bottom of that last
rabbit hole and you're either going to get real political,
real fast, or you're just going to stay down there
and be useless. But the ones that decide to get
real political, real fast, they don't know it, but they
take a lot of that with them, a lot of
all of the other false rabbit holes that they were
taught like, or that they went down and all the
villainous deeds of John D. Rockefeller and all the villainous
deeds of John Pierpont Morgan, and it would surprise many
of them that these great men saw what was happening
in Germany. And there's really no other way to put it.
What these men witnessed was a miracle. Like up until
that point, these men, I mean, there's gonna be a
lot of civil war hate and stuff and you know,
evil Yankee fucking carpetbagging industrialist baskets. But their enemy is
now that our current current enemy. So maybe we can
be a little forgiving as we go forward, because these
guys very much built this country, like as we see
like those all of those you know, huddled masses that
the Statue of Liberty talk about all these peasant farmers
from all over Europe, like these people barely knew how
to read and write, but they weren't stupid. And we
joke about how all these people thought that you know,
the cities were paved with gold, like they're so stupid,
but they don't understand what America was up until World
War One. World War two. What America did from eighteen
sixty arguably to nineteen ten was create more wealth per capita. Right,
So you can say whatever you want about the rich industrialists,
they actually shared the wealth, unlike our current elite. They
built more wealth as a nation than any previous civilization
in history. All right, whether you can add ancient Egyptians,
ancient Greeks, ancient Chinese, ancient Indians, whatever, put them all
together in a plot, right, and they won't even fill
up half of the glass that these men created in
under one hundred years. So when they saw the Great Depression,
right and what it was doing to the country, and
they looked across the ocean at what Hitler did in
four years, these men thought it was a miracle. And
guys like closet leftists Anthony Sutton wrote books about, you know,
how the Nazi government was just a creation of you know,
rich bankers and industrialists, is a puppet, you know, just
like the commons were. And that's not the case at all.
Guys like Henry Ford, guys like Jack Morgan, guys like
I forget the guy the guy's name that started IBM
doesn't matter, and guys like Nelson Rockefeller when they saw
what Hitler was doing. It was a fucking miracle to them,
like he did something impossible, and they saw what the
Soviet Union was doing, and they're like, this is not
the thing. So the business plot is the story of
how these industrialists sent agents, personal representatives to every single
one of the fascist governments for years. For a year
and a half, the one that Jack Morgan sent was
operating out of Morgan and Hodges, which was the Paris
affiliate right his Paris subsidiary, and sending reports back to
Jack Morgan from Germany about how Hitler came to power,
how he was able to do what he did, and
when they thought they learned enough, they went to recreate it.
They wanted here what they saw Hitler having there and
if it wasn't And the other thing that pisses me off, like,
not only do we trash our own heroes because we've
been trained to think that they were villains, but we
lawed our enemies. You know how many fucking stupid right
wingers will hit me with Smedley Butler quotes a fucking communist.
The only reason you don't have a based fascist government
in America is because of that. That terrible terrible human
being and him betraying the men that put their faith
in him. So like, for instance, I'll read you a
quote from the Morgan Library. It is very interesting. This
is to give you an idea of what could have been.
And then I'll get into who these men were. Right.
So there were three, you know, on the ground guys
that were all heads of various industry at one point
in time or another, right that went overseas and fought
in World War One and came back and now we're
the head of veterans organists as inside the US after
World War One that kind of organized around what was
called the Bonus Army, right, and two of those guys,
and mister Maguire and mister mister Doyle, were heads of
the Massachusetts and New York Veterans Associations. And it was
the Veterans Associations that these guys, as in like the
guys higher up the Bouchain, saw as the mechanism at
which a fastist government could come to power. They saw
it in Germany and they saw it in Italy, and
they saw how central the veterans were from the very beginning.
So through emissaries like Rs Clark, guys like Jack Morgan
and his good friend Henry Ford, and they were very
close friends. In fact, the largest or the most frequent
contributor to letters to the editor and frequent penner of
op eds in the Dearborn Independent was one Jack Morgan.
Speaker 1: And as a JP Morgan, as JP Morgan's.
Speaker 2: Son, yep, JP Morganson and after his death the chairman
of JP Morgan Chasing Company.
Speaker 1: And for those who are unaware, yeah, and for those
who are unaware of the Dearborn Independent, can't tell them
what that was.
Speaker 2: The Dearborn Independent was Henry Ford's newspaper. So not only
was it in we've always heard the stories that the
news newspaper was something that he printed as like a
side project, you know, as like a little thing a
crazy old man did, and he had to stuff him
in the glove compartment of every Ford car and truck
to you know, get it out there. It's not the case.
A large The reason that they were able to get
such a wide circulations because it was subscription based. It
was basically like podcasts and shit are today and substacks.
It was like a vast majority of Dearborn Independent newspapers
went out via subscription and it was the most read
newspaper outside of the New York Times in Wall Street
because you know those people were the enemy, and I
mean just finance in general is villainized. But anyways, you
want to talk about Jewish power, the only place you
were hearing about Jewish power was in the Dearborn Independent
and Father Coughlin's radio showing that was it. And the
largest contributor outside of Henry Ford himself to that operation
was the head of JP Morgan, Chase and Company, a
guy that we often villainize. The second most frequent op
ed contributor was one John D. Rockefeller. Interesting man and
his sons would continue the tradition another I'll get more
into Anglo history later or lost history leader. But another
guy that's frequently villainized is Alan Dulles and his brother
John Foster Dulles. If I had to stack rank great
Americans the last one hundred years one hundred and fifty years,
Patent would be somewhere in the middle of that list.
And guys like John Foster Dulles, He's probably one of
the most brilliant statesmen the United States ever produced, and
his brother Alan Dulles, by the way, both of them
were very high ups in the trying to think is
a Lutheran or Episcopal church. I'm still getting the hang
of Protestantism and the many denominations that you know make
it up. But these men were not only fascist sympathizers,
but they actively tried to create a fascist government and
became and came within a cunt hairs distance away from
actually pulling it off. And if it wasn't Smanley Butler,
you know, I guess staying true to the brokenness that's
inside of a person to be a communist and him
running to FDR and snitching on all these men, you
probably would have had one and the two representatives John
of the two veterans organizations, John Doyle and mister Maguire,
they wanted Smedley for the position, right, so the way
that they planned it, Oh never mind, I'm going to
back up a little bit. But you could have had
a fascist government and the people that you're taught to
hate or just flat out think don't exist came inches
away from achieving just that. And there's virtually no history
right outside of knowing that JP Morgan is a bad man,
a right John D Rockefell was a bad man. The
history of America from the Civil War to World War
One like doesn't exist. It's not taught. So we became
the richest civilization in the history of the world. Nobody
fucking talks about it. How did that happen? Who did it?
It's been virtually raised. And we'll start with JP Morgan,
Jack's father, and then I'll go into some other people
that you were probably taught to hate. What do you think, Pete,
You start with peer Pont.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a It's one of the most interesting
men that ever lived. For damn sure, yes he was so.
Speaker 2: John Pierpont Morgan was the great grandson of Captain Jack Moore.
That's who Jack, his son was named after, right, was
probably one of the I guess most notable privateers after
the Revolutionary War, saving countless countless white souls from enslavement
on the Barbary coast and the killer of many many
English sailors. You know him today. You are familiar with
this man, or at least is his likeness. He is
emblazoned on well the most popular rum model in the country.
John Pierpont's Morgan, John Pierpont Morgan's granddad is that Captain
Morgan at like literally a pirate, a privateer. So John
Morgan believed that he owed all of his success to America,
and he firmly believed it. And this is something our
elites don't get, right, So how do I put this?
A lot of the things that we associate with nobility,
the concept of nobless, oblige, and duty, died in Europe
about two hundred years before they died in the United States.
America was never supposed to have an aristocracy, or like
never have one, you know, officially, but that's what these
men viewed themselves as. And if you have unlimited money,
all the money in the world, right, and you never
have to work a day in your life, and you
can have anything you want whenever you want it. On
the surface to regular people, that sounds like the best
life ever. But it's not. It's hell. It's very depressing life.
It's a purposeless life. So the one thing that we
know about man is that man needs purpose. He doesn't
need sustenance like you can give him sustenance you can
give This is why communism never works. All Right, you're
basically in a rare, as Thomas put it, You know
you're basically living in a prison slash retirement community, just
waiting to die. That's what would have been these people's
lives if they didn't search for meaning in other places.
And the thing that indexed the most with their soul
was the nobility and aristocracy of Europe, and the traditions
of the British aristocracy continued in America far longer than
they continued in England. These men lived their lives around
duty and honor. I mean, one of the most famous
quotes I think from JP Morgan when asked if somebody
could get alone, you know, let me pull up the quote.
It's really good. There you go. His quote about taxes
is actually funny too. Every American has the god given
right to evade taxes if he can get away with it.
No citizen has a moral obligation to assist in maintaining
his own government unless my choice.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's pretty pretty interesting guy. I don't care how
much money a man has or how much credit. He
can have all of the silver in Christendom and he
won't get a dollar from me. I'm sorry. He can
have all the collateral in Christendom and he won't get
a dollar from me. And the reporter goes, really not
if he had all the collateral in the world, all
the money in the world, And he goes, no, sir.
The first thing is honoring. The second thing is character,
and he believed it. Everybody he dealt with, right, was
basically on a handshake deal. Like there were contracts and
for stock issuances and legal things, right, that had to
be done, But so much of I guess you can
call it Peerpont's diplomacy was done entirely on reputation. So
to him that was enough. And this is really the
problem he had with a certain group of people that
kept on trying to barge their way into American finance,
particularly one group of them that were financed by a
certain banking interest that tried desperately to get in and
were relegated to stocks. Right, So being a stockbroker was
not glamorous at all. Right, So being a stockbroker would
be what we would have as an equivalent as like
people that trade crypto, right, Like that's where sketchy people go. Right,
that's like you know, that's fly by night ship. Right.
This is why the termed speculator is an insult, right, Like, oh,
you know, these people don't care about anything, They're just speculators.
That was basically how it was viewed. Right. Banking was separate,
banking was legacy based right, and the wasps desperately like
to the last, defended banking right. So banking in America
was something that you had your family had to be
in the country for eight hundred years or more to
even get an apprenticeship in like you could wouldn't even
be a courier. They were super super strict about it
because they viewed it as they viewed finance, high finance,
as you know, the aristocracy. That was the barrier. You
either became a captain of industry, right, or you became
a partner at one of these firms. And back in
the day, it wasn't like it is now with corporations.
These were all partnerships, right. So the only thing that
operates similarly today is law firms. Right. So making partner
is like, you know, you have made it right, it
will If you make partner at a shitty firm, then
you haven't right. But if you are like, you know,
I'm trying to think, what's what's a You can't believe
I'm blanking. There's a you know, any one of the
top twenty law firms in the country. If you make
a partner at any one of those, your set for
life because now you get a share of all the
money that that firm makes, right like you basically get
a stipend for life. And that's how it was in banking.
So being made a partner was like being knighted in America.
And this is why, almost to a man, the wasp
aristocracy was in Drexel Berner, Lambert or Brown Brothers or
Morgan and Company. A partner in any one of those
banks could pick up the phone and get any senator
on the line whenever you wanted to, right like you
were somebody at that point. Unfortunately it's not the same.
Speaker 3: Today, but I've lost my train of Oh yes, yeah,
i am JP Morgan's Super Chad Adventures.
Speaker 2: So not a lot of people will know this, but
the United States, well, one of the reasons that the
United States has the reputation it has around its currency,
right everyone thinks that, oh, the dollar is the world
reserve currency and is the number one currency in the
world because of the US military, and if you don't
use it will just come fuck you up, like that's
true in the most extreme sense, but that's not why
people want to use it. Right, It's not like we're
forcing everybody to get their money into dollars. Literally you can.
The one thing that you will notice about any impoverised
country that you get into, they like if you give
them a dollar, like that shit is getting stuffed in
the mattress. They view that dollar, you know, like it
is made of gold. Right, So like the thing in Russia,
the thing in China, Like people hoard physical American currency
like their gold bars because it basically is. And the
reason I say that is because the United States of
America is the only country in the history of the
world that is never called in its currency. And what
that means is, I mean like England did this recently,
Europe has done this. The EU has been alive for
a whopping you know, thirty years, is already to do
it twice. France is fucking notorious for the shit, right,
Like they will call in all of their notes and
destroy them and issue you out new notes. Right it's basically,
you know, it's currency default. And the United States is
the only nation in the history of the world to
never have recalled its currency. There are even countries, you know,
in the Middle Ages that had gold coins that would
have to recall their currency. And you can dig a
dollar out of the fucking ground in your backyard from
seventeen ninety nine and walk into a grocery store and
buy something with it. Not that you could want to,
but you could, right. It's also why America has never
actually defaulted on its debt. It's come close twice, and
technically it's come close three times, but people don't know
about the third time. It's also why they don't know
how fucking Chatji she fucking Morgan is, but it's never
actually done it. So America is the world's reserve currency
because we are the most dependable when it comes to money.
And it's that dependability knowing that it's always going to
be there and one hundred or two hundred, three hundred
years from now, like that dollar you dug out of
your backyard. That is why people all over the world
scramble to get their hands on physical dollars, and you
don't need to hold the gun to their head. Doesn't
matter how many fucking missiles or aircraft carriers that you have,
They're going to do it all themselves. And in eighteen
ninety America was on the verge of going bankrupt, like
it was happening. If nothing was done, and nothing could
be done from inside the government, America is going to
be bankrupt in less than six months. And what John
Pierpont Morgan did was bail the entire country out himself.
He put every single thing he owned, every share of
stop everything. He would have been homeless, literally, and the
guy had like fucking twelve homes and the first yacht,
like the first mega yacht, the Corsair, would have been
gone to. He leveraged every single thing he had, and
he still didn't have enough. He was twelve percent short. Right,
Why was he doing it in the first place, Well,
because he believed it was his duty to do so
as a member of the unofficial aristocracy of America. These
men believed that they had to do to the nation.
And so how he got that other twelve percent is
really interesting because there was a whole bunch of people
that at this point in time had made a fortune
trading stocks, you know those people, and those people didn't
want to chip in a fucking dollar. So your pond
held the hostage. He lured them.
Speaker 4: All the all the Saturday people bankers onto his yacht,
the Corsair for lunch, and.
Speaker 2: They're going to do a cruise around New York Harbor.
But shortly after they pulled off, they didn't go anywhere
near the harbor. They just went straight out into the ocean,
and about two hours later, now land very very very
far away. Perepont comes upstairs from a stateroom and says,
all right, one of two things is going to happen.
Option A is you gentlemen are going to voluntarily come
up between the you know the point there's six of them.
The six of you are going to come up with
the other twelve percent to bail out the United States
alongside my ninety percent or sorry, like eighty eight percent.
And if you don't want to do that, all of
my money is liquid right now, having collateralized everything that
I own, right, basically borrowing against everything that he owned,
which he reminded them right these margin loans were extended
by the brokerage firms that were sitting around the table
from him at that very moment. So he was like,
all right, guys, I've leveraged everything I own, and you
guys have been nice enough to extend me right, several
multiples on that in credit. So if you don't help
me bail out the United States government, I will take
my three x net worth that's all liquid, right, and
I will have the captain radio my man on the shore,
who will in turn tell my man at the stock
exchange to begin shorten your stocks. And I will have
bankrupted every single one of you by the time you
ever get into port to warn anybody about it. And yes,
the country will go out of business, will go bankrupt,
and so will all of you. But I'll have no
one to pay these margin loans back to because you'll
all be out of business. And then I'll make all
that money shortening your stock all the way down to zero.
So I'm going to get my money to bail out
the government. One way or the other. It's either whether
you want to cooperate with me or you want to
be put out of business by me, and then me
taking that money from putting you out of business and
using that to bail out the government and having to
put up none of my own. And what do you know,
all of a sudden, a bunch of immigrants got real patriotic,
real fucking quick, and that's why the US has never
defaulted on its debt. Thanks du the ego Batman, JP Morgan, Chase,
I'm sorry, JP Morgan and his company JP Morgan and Kevin.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, somebody's gonna jump somebody's gonna jump in and say,
you know he he was one of the planners of
the of the Federal Reserve.
Speaker 2: Things like, the Federal Reserve is actually a brilliant system
if you keep the currency peg to gold. The Federal
Reserve system was built to stop what arguably has caused
every single financial crash we've had. All Right, the Federal
Reserve wasn't supposed to be omnipoted. It was supposed to
be feudal in nature. Right now, the Federal Reserve is
a monolith. The New York Fed and all of the
other little tiny feds are a joke. It may as
well just be the New York Fed and one interest
rate for the whole country. Well, that's not how it
was laid out. A farmer in Iowa was never ever
supposed to be paying the same interest as a stockbroker
in Wall Street. It became that way after FBR. So
the Federal Reserve system that everyone and every stupid libertarian
has been trained to hate worked an awful lot like
how one Frederick List imagined such an institution working. Right,
it's not supposed to be monolithic. It was supposed to
be decentralized and offer decentralized interest rates. The only reason
you've had the catastrophes we've had is because you're forcing
a farmer in Iowa to pay the same cost of
capital as a stockbroker in New York City. But there's
a lot of things that Roosevelt destroyed, and this fascist coup,
which we'll get into next dime, that was, you know,
ruined by one communist general that everyone loves to lionize
as a stupid faggot book War as a racket. Now
it's not a racket. This is this is it's communist
logic again. All right, we adopt the left. The left's
framing has been embedded so deeply into our paradigms that
even though we think ourselves right wingers, we mouth their platitudes.
War has nothing to do with money making. If money
is made during war, okay, all right, but that's not
what drives men to war, has nothing to do with it.
This is like that Rothschild's are omnipotent type fucking people.
Same thing, all right, Politicians drag people to war, not bankers.
And you'll also be surprised at the number one policy
plank of this fascist takeover, and also of America first,
which was bankrolled in its entirety by Jack Morgan, by
Henry Ford, by the DuPont family, and by our good
good friends the Rockefellers. The number one issue was keeping
America on the gold standard. And why would a bunch
of evil bankers, if they're so evil, be campaigning to
keep us on the gold standard. Why would if everything
that you believed is true about JP Morgan, about the
Federal Reserve and about all that, you would think that
would be the last thing that they would want, right,
because yeah, you know, Federal Reserve. And then we got
FIOX mommies, and they took the gold away? Who took
the gold away? Who did it? FDR? Did the fucking
class trader FDR? The entire New Deal these guys viewed
as a slow roll communist takeover and purging of the
power base of the wasp class. Let's look at what
came out of the New Deal government in rapid secession
the first term was the sec Act and Glass Steegel.
I'm not going to go into the intricacies of the
banking business and what the banking business was at the time,
but if you know that the lost aristocracy was the
American banking industry, then you, like them, saw this as
a direct attack against their class. All that whole war
is a racket, and that whole money trust bullshit was actually,
in typical fashion, created in its entirety by one Randolph Hurst.
And who was that lovely gentleman that paid off all
of Winston Churchill's debts? Bernard Baruke? Who was Bernard Baruke
a representative of roth Child and Company. So the guys
that put the New Dealers into power roughly at the
exact same time as they were pulling off a communist
revolution in Russia. The very first thing that these men
did once they gotten if you can call them that,
once they got into power, was attacked the wasp aristocracy.
In fact, the biggest critics of FDR were the Roosevelt family.
Like the level of class trader and family trader that
FDR is is barely understood, and like, who are these
these men? Right? You and I got into a Twitter
argument recently with a I guess a pastor. I guess
he is a preacher of the dispensationallest kind. And you
threw an insult that him that I didn't understand, but
it seemed that it really pissed him off. About the
high church and low church? Are we talking about like
pop up churches like these, you know, kind of like
they look like Walmart super centers, almost.
Speaker 1: Empty space next to the circle, k y, that kind
of thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, So not those churches, the churches that
are actually built of like granite, you know, and bricks,
The permanent churches, the ones that look like fucking churches
and cathedrals.
Speaker 2: Three quarters of those churches across the country were built
by John D. Rockefeller because he felt it was his duty.
All of those literally every public library in the fucking
country was built by Andrew Carnegie. The reason that the
reason that life sucks the way it does today, and
in the particular way that it does, is because these
men have been erased, right, we know only they're bad.
They're demonized, just like Uncle A is demonized, right, and
their stories have been erased. So these men had nothing
but history to turn to. Right, There was no existing
aristocracy that taught these men how to be noble. I mean,
what was in England that the you know, the eighteen
hundreds was a joke, especially the latter half of the
eighteen hundreds of fucking joke. So these men turned to
history books, right, and they modeled themselves and their families
off of the nobility. You know, that made the nobility famous.
And the reason why our elites today, right, why are
Elon Musks, why are Jeff Bezos's. We'll forget the fucking
Jewish billionaires. I'm not talking about them. The reason they
don't act like these men is because they don't know
these men existed outside of just you know, the shibbalits
that you're allowed. All Right, Elon Musk is never going
to be like JP Morgan because if you were to
tell him that he's being like JP Morgan, he'd probably
be he'd probably think you were insulting him. Right, Like
everything Elon Musk does cool, he's doing great stuff, but
he's also doing business. Oh he's sending them, you know,
people to space. Yeah, but he's also doing that because
he wants people himself to go into space. John D.
Rockefeller didn't build two thousand churches, real churches for any
other reason, then he felt that it was his duty.
Andrew Carnegie didn't build every fucking public library in this
country because he thought Americans should read good, because he
thought it was his duty that that wealth came with
a debt, that he owed it to someone. The reason
that Grand Central Station is probably one of the years
and years and years and years went into the designing
of the acoustics of Grand Central Station. And there places
in Grand Central Station where you can stand in a corner,
grants of the Pete. You've been to Grant Under Station.
It's pretty fucking big.
Speaker 1: Right, many times it's enormous, And yeah, I've done what
you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you can go into one Pe can go
into one side of Grand Central Station, and I can
go into the other side, and I can whisper. I
can stand in a corner and I can whisper. And
if Pete is also standing in the corner, even though
he's on the other side of the fucking place, he
can hear every word I'm saying, like like I'm standing
right next to him, even though there's fucking hundreds of
thousands of people marching through that place. At the same
time making a fuck ton of noise. Right, just the
acoustic properties makes that building one of the most impressive
buildings made in the last two hundred years. And not
to mention Pete. For those of the listeners that haven't
been to Grand Central Station, Brand Central Station beautiful.
Speaker 1: It's it's unbelievable. It's you know, it's one of those
things that stupid people. Okay, let's say one of those people,
one of those things that uncultured people will be like, oh,
why do you even build something like this? Well, there's
a reason you build something like that. It's the same
reason that you build you know that you build these
gigantic churches. You see these churches in Europe that are
stretch to the sky and they take people's breath away.
Because some people love God and one who and one
who glorify him, and others hate you. And that's the difference.
That's the difference between architecture today and architecture in the past.
Speaker 2: The people that build Brand Central Station not only had
their train car, their own train cars, but they had
their own station. Outside of christening the building, they never
walked inside.
Speaker 5: Of it again.
Speaker 2: They wanted it that way. They wanted it to be
beautiful because they thought Americans, while commuting all over the country,
deserved to be in a place that was beautiful. And
Elon Musk and Mark Andresen. As much good as these
men are doing Peter Thiel's doing, I don't see them
doing that. I don't see anybody, any of our mega
billionaires doing that, because none of our mega billionaires think
it's their duty. Cool. You get to go to space,
because I want to go to space, all right, so
you get to you know, hitch your ride on. They're
already selfish pursuits. They're cool pursuits, don't get me wrong.
But these men didn't operate that way. Every single orphanage
in New England was bankworld in its entirety by either
a church, which did the Catholic ones, but all of
the Protestant ones were bankworld by one of these men,
through whatever that local church was. Pierpont Morgan gave the
equivalent of seventy million dollars a year just to the orphanages.
The reason that we have beautiful concert halls is because
these men build them, only maybe going inside once a year.
The reason that we have beautif for art museums was
because these men build them. The reason we have beautiful
museums period, Like the Metropolitan Museum is beautiful. It's one
of the most beautiful buildings in New York City. And
these guys built it for free out of their pocket
for you to enjoy, because they felt it was their duty.
And how did a bunch of bankers get involved in
a veteran's movement after World War One? Well, because it
was their duty. Every I don't know how to describe
the level of shame that a family would have if
all of their of age did not go fight in
whatever fight that America was in. And I'm not talking
about like what George W. Bush did going out in
the Air National Guard right, like one third of the
class of Harvard and Yale in Princeton got wiped the
fuck out. None of those men, none of those young
men would have had to fight if they didn't want to.
Every single one of them could have called their senator
that their dad put into office and gotten them a
commission like FDR did. Right. FDR was a figure just
like George W. Bush doing the Air National Guard routine. Right.
America's Air force in World War One was the aviation
love of Yale, Harvard, and Princeton as in like aviation
was in its earliest, earliest days and was basically, i
don't know, like not like a fad, but it was
the cool and exciting thing to do, right if you
were a young man. This is the second in command
at JP. Morton and Company. I'm trying to remember his name,
but his son became a paraplegic because he was in
the aviation club and they were doing an air show
and the rear of planes at that time usually had
two motors, one in the front, one of the back,
and the motor in the back came loose and struck
this young man in the head and he was paralyzed
from the waist down. He still went on to be
a you know, a fucking chad, right, But if you
were a young man of privilege, you were into racing
cars or flying planes. And the air force that America
had in World War One were these men leaving school.
They took they you know, took a year off for
two years off, however many years they needed off like
they were in university, right, and temporarily dropped out and
donated their planes to the American government and their bodies,
and I think something like twenty percent came home. Maybe.
I don't see anybody, any any Senator son going to
fight today. I don't see any of builds his kids.
He's got a bunch, he's got five. I don't see
any of these people that think that they're aristocrats, they
think they are America's aristocracy, right because of money. I
don't see any of them sending their kids to fight
in any of America's wars. It's kind of a joke
that we all say, like, how come Dick change these kids? Right?
How come none of these warmongers are sending their sons.
And the reason that America is in as many wars
as it is in is because precisely that this class
of people were disenfranchised. They were the casualty of the
New Deal government. The New Deal Government was basically an
attempt by Jews and by very willing participants and co
conspirators in the English financial industry right, and they were
specifically targeted at. Bernard Baruke and Randall Hurst concocted one
of like the first really good psyops called the money
Trust scandal, And it wasn't a scandal at all. It
was entirely a media creation. And these great men were
dragged in front of Congress and her rank again and
again and again by two Jewish congressmen who both turned
out later to be members of the Communist Party, and
the person bankrolling them and the person providing the air
cover in the press one Bernard Garup, the man who's
largely responsible not only for Winston Churchill what happened in
Germany in the Second World War, right, but the first
attack on the Anglo American aristocracy, all because we wouldn't
let them in the banking industry. A right like John
John Morgan's number one rival in the world was Yaka Rothschild.
He sent Rothschild sent four separate different proxies, one of
them John Belmond, and Pierpont sent them back penniless each
and every time. And it wasn't until they saw their
success with the Communist movement or the Bolsheviks did they
really start getting politically aggressive. And everybody remembers, well some
of you may remember, not remember, some of you may
have come across it in history. Maybe you've talked about this,
but the anarchist bombings and the communist bombings in America
turn the century.
Speaker 1: Are you talking about the haymarket affair and things like that.
Speaker 2: The biggest bombs by a communist of pale settlement descent,
actually all of the bombs in New York. We're all
set off on Wall Street, and all, funny enough, happened
to be in front of one bank, Morgan and Company.
So all of the communists, you know that we're going
to bring down the evil capitalists, all just wanted to
bring down one specific capitalist, so much so that after
the bombs didn't work. This is when this is during
the lead up to the coup attempt. All right, this
is I think twenty nine, twenty eight. But a communist
armed with two pistols shot the gate guard at Jack
Morgan's home and shot the butler that answered the door,
and rounded up Jack's wife and two daughters, the sons
his sons were away at school, and brought them into
a back room he's by the By this time Jack
Morgan figured out what was happening. He was in the
study and ran up to the back bedroom where this
man was hiding with his two children and his wife,
and he said that he just wanted, you know, to
talk to him, to get base, to get America to
stop being mean to the Soviet Union.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is nice. This is nineteen twenty, so yeah,
this is all happening in nineteen twenty East side turn
of the century, and it had Haymarket was thirty years
before that, so we're around nineteen twenty now. Just for.
Speaker 2: Just everyone knows the JP. You can go to twenty
one Wall Street and see the JP Morgan building and
they refuse to fix the building from the bomb. So
there is like you can literally see chunks taken out
of the building from basically paving stones that were broken
apart and turned into projectiles. It killed five people at
JP Morgan. Yeah, this was in the twentiest me Chuck
think he was twenty eight Wall Street bombing, yep, nineteen twenty.
And I was a good guest, Pete, that was a
good guest. But yeah, this gentleman said that he just
wanted to talk and that mister Morgan was able to
make the American government do whatever he wanted, so he
was going to basically do diplomacy by hostage, and Jack
rushed him, beat the man into a coma while taking
two revolver shots in one into the stomach and one
into the inside of the thigh almost died. But the
good thing about being rich is you have a doctor
that usually either lives in your property or or close by.
Speaker 1: And then this happened in nineteen fifteen, July third. Yes,
I'm looking that up right now.
Speaker 2: Yes, And the gentleman that did it, I believe correctly
if I'm wrong, was a crypto.
Speaker 1: His name was Eric Munter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he was under three different names. Yeah, teaching
at Harvard as a as a professor for a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, graduated University of Chicago, University of Kansas, began teaching
as an instructor at Harvard University, where he was a
doctoral student. Yeah, yeah, now it was. He was a
quote unquote German saboteur who went under the name Frank Holt.
Speaker 6: Hello, my fellow boys. You know he was a jack.
Was a big dude, all right, he was. He was
six two.
Speaker 2: Actually, both Morgan's were six three and six two, all right,
so they were not small dudes. But yeah, so only
which is funny enough, because you had what's his name?
How am I gonna? I can't believe I'm blanking. He
was the guy that funded a majority of the Communist
the Bolshek Revolution. How am I blanking in his name?
Jacob Shift, Jacob Shift, there you go, Shift and Company.
Jacob Shift lived right next door.
Speaker 1: Oh it's actually it's actually Shift, just like the Shift
that we the perma bear shift that we have to
deal with today.
Speaker 2: I wonder if they're related.
Speaker 1: I'll look that up real quick. Keep going.
Speaker 2: That would be very very interesting to know. And for
those of you who don't know what we were talking about,
the Communist Revolution was funded in its entirety by two
people yaka broth Child and mister Jacob Shift and and
wes you that that educated me on this. But a
majority of the Bolsheviks we're actually from like Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: Well, when when Trotsky left New York he got on
a boat and I think he had thirty they had
thirty men with him. Someone in fact checked me on that.
I'm sure somebody will. They always do. And they were.
They all made it to Russia. They and they were
all yes of a certain tribe.
Speaker 2: That's really funny. And Trotsky got curric of wrong. But
Trotsky got stopped in Canada by a Canadian.
Speaker 1: Pe yep and because of you know who controlled the
crown at the time, he was released and let go.
Speaker 2: Yep with one hundred thousand dollars. He was apprehended with
a hundred thousand dollars in cash, YEP.
Speaker 1: I also think he had I think he had I
think he had diamonds too.
Speaker 2: Oh what is what was that? Nineteen ten? So what
is that one hundred thousand?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's rather interesting when you start really getting
into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So basically he had the equivalent of three and
a half million dollars on his person. And the Bolsheviks
didn't come to power through revolutionary prowess. They're actually incredibly disorganized,
a bunch of fucking retards. But with that one hundred
thousand dollars, as they bought every single newspaper in Russia
or in Moscow, and that's really where any communist cloud
came from.
Speaker 1: And so when oh, by the way, just to just
to clear this up, Peter Schiff is not related to
Jacob Shift. Oh Jacob. Jacob Shift's dad. Peter Shift's dad
Irwin Shift. Irwin Shift, who was a tax protester who
died in prison in two thousand and fifteen. His parents
emigrated here from Poland around nineteen thirty.
Speaker 2: So okay, oh thanks, I'm so glad they joined us.
I'm so glad they came to came to America. That's funny.
So in Trotsky's memoirs he talks about his exile from
Russia the first time, right, So Lennon and Trotsky were
both rounded up by the O Stya is that how
I'm saying? Am I saying? Quickly?
Speaker 1: I think that's how I was pronounced. I'm terrible, and
I think anyone who's listened to my readings so I'm
terrible at pronouncing foreign words.
Speaker 2: Same same. So they got rounded up and thrown out
of Russia once and then they were basically air dropped
in a second time, which is the time that Pete
and I are talking about. But there is a space
of about eight years in between those two, all right,
and where these guys they chose to hang out in
Germany briefly, got booted out of Germany, and then they
went to Switzerland for a little bit, got booted out
of Switzerland, and after that they kind of go dark
for like five years. And then Trotsky's memoirs, I think
he's also in Lenin's too. But Lenin spent those five
years in a villa in the south of France. You
know it was Villa that was.
Speaker 1: Please tell everyone it was.
Speaker 2: The Lord Yak of Rothchilds. And Trotsky in his memoirs
talks about his time in Newport, Rhode Island, staying at
what he called the Magician's house, and the magician would
take him around him and his daughters in for I
don't know if you a rise, all over the city,
all over you know, prominence, and then also to the
magician's house in Long Island and the magician would go,
you know, into the city. And Trotsky says, he's like
the magician controlled all the wheels of finance and capital,
and you know, with his with a move of his hand,
all the wheels of industry would move one way, and
with another wheel of his hand or another waved his hand,
all the wheels of capital would move the other way,
you know, And basically described this man as like a
magician slash chauffeur that would drive him and his daughters
around places. That man was Jacob Shift. So the reason
nobody could find these communist stumbags is because arguably the
you know, three of the top five were just men
on the planet that were not royalty of some sight,
of some respects. We're hiding them to use later as
a weapon, right, just like the Just like the New
Dealers were used as a weapon against a similar entrenched
aristocracy that they wanted removed. And Roosevelt was really a compromise,
all right, Like I said, including his own family. Nobody
suspected what FDR would become, what he would do. Like
the Roosevelt family, they weren't in banking that much. But
if you go back and look at the newspapers of
the time, hold on, cat, what do you want? Showed him?
Whose boss?
Speaker 1: Your cat makes a lot of appearances on podcasts.
Speaker 2: I completely forgot where we were.
Speaker 1: Trotsky three three men uh Trotsky was put They were
basically put on a shelf to be used later, Yeah.
Speaker 2: As weapons, just like the Progressives were used as we
were not the Progressives. The New Dealers were used as
weapons against an entrenched arisocracy. If you look like all
the all of the all the legislation that came out
of the New Deals, the New Dealers first terms, it
is an attack like there's it's very hard to see
it any other way. And if you look at who
was doing it, all right, because he needed help in
in Congress, it was the same Saturday folks that were
dragging Jack and his dad before his dad passed in
front of Congress for hearing after hearing about the fake
money trust scandal. It was Randolph Hurst. And actually here,
let me let me find out the commission. I'll get
it to you after the show. What the congressman's name was.
It was two of them that were in the committee. Oh,
and yes, I remember it was a young Lewis Brandeis.
Speaker 1: Louis and I huh, that's huh? What do what church?
He wants to.
Speaker 2: Something of Satan? I think Lewis Brandeis would communicate with FDR.
And the only place that I've really found this mentioned
is both in the Dearborn Independent and in the Morgan
Library and in some of the some of the he's
called it the memoirs or biographies of the John Foster Dulls,
and shit, I won't anyways, this was kind of like
an open secret that Lewis Brandeis was giving basically marching
orders through messenger his daughter, who all right, let me
see him pull it up Lewis brand Ice, Wow, how
is like? Al is their daughter? Like? Nowhere in here?
Speaker 1: Susan and Susan or Elizabeth.
Speaker 2: I believe it was Susan. Can you see who what
they're married to?
Speaker 1: I will check right now.
Speaker 2: One of them is going to be married to a
very important new dealer.
Speaker 1: Susan Brandeis Gilbert. Oh wait a minute, all that Susan
Brandee Jacob Gilbert Elizabeth Brandeis Joseph Gilbert Jacob Jacob H.
Speaker 2: Gilbert, American lawyer who served six terms as a US
Senator or sorry, a US House of Representative member, Jacob H. Gilbert. Yay,
this guy served six terms in Congress. I said he
was a big deal in the New dealers, and William
Brandeis scrolled that over here. In eighteen ninety, Brandeis began
to question his views on American industrialism. He became aware
of the growing number of giant companies which were capable
of dominating whole industries, and he began to lose faith
in the whole American capitalist economic system and its ability
to regulate and it's sorry and its need to be
regulated for the public's welfare. As a result, he denounced
cutthroat competition and worried about monopolies. He also became concerned
about the plight of workers and was very sympathetic to
the labor movement. Well really crusader for justice. Oh, I
have to look at that later. His earlier battles had
convinced him that concentrated economic power could have a negative
effect on a free society. Wow. Yeah, So Brandice was
then in the Supreme Court. They had four or five yeah,
the Money Trust. They had four or five guys in
prominent positions in the Congress. And I can't remember who
the senators were, but if you got the President, you
got the Supreme Court, and you got the Senate. Brandeis
was often referred to by the people as the people's lawyer.
That's funny because all of the references for that are
from press publications owned by one mister Hurst.
Speaker 1: Oh okay. It was called the Puho Committee Pujoujo committee, yep,
named after ours and Pauline Poujo for Louisiana. Oh. Why
does this guy's name always come up? Samuel Intermyer? Yeah
you know what else? Samuel inter Myers responsible for the
Schofield Bible.
Speaker 2: No, keep the fuck attitude?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, Then there was Hubert D. Stevens of Mississippi.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you just go if you just google Samuel Untermeyer,
pull up his Wikipedia page. There is a whole bunch
of political caricatures of mister J. P. Morgan. Yep, he
went after every single wow.
Speaker 1: Oh and in case anybody was wondering what the early
life is on mister Untermeyer, it's what you think, yep.
Speaker 2: And what he never talks about is who his law
firm's clients were. He was later after World War One,
he became a top advisor. Why is a lawyer and
advisor to the Treasury Department. He's responsible for the income tax.
It's very interesting.
Speaker 1: Corporate lawyer, advocate of stock market regulation, government ownership of railroads,
various legal legal reforms. And he was an exponent of
the progressive era. He became an advocate of stock market regulations,
government ownership of railroads, and various legal reforms. He was
also the first attorney to own a million dollars, to
earn a million dollars on a single case.
Speaker 2: I bet he was. Untermeyer also identified early as a
Zionist and served as president of the Karen Hassad the
agency which the movement was then and is still conducted
in America. How have I not heard about this? K
R E n h A Y E s O D
the Agent. In nineteen thirty three, he founded the non
Sectarian Anti Zion or Anti Nazi League in nineteen thirty three. Oh,
I wonder what the The non Sectarian Anti Nazi League
changed its mission to directly investigate right wing propaganda groups.
Amongst them were the Christian Front of Father Coughlin. Non
Sectarian Anti Nazi League its mission was to directly investigate
right wing propaganda groups. Among them were the Christian Front
of Father Coughlin, the Christian Mobilizers of Joseph McWilliam. I'm
just going to check that out, the America First Party,
and this group, this Anti Nazi League also began to
support the civil rights movement.
Speaker 1: We are so shocked.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And it filed its first lawsuit in nineteen forty
five against Columbia University to have its tax exempt status
revoked for discriminating against who.
Speaker 1: Jews, which was really interesting because that's where his son
graduated from.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't doubt it. It was also instrumental in shutting
down kit based groups in Atlanta, Georgia, by hiring Stetson
Kennedy William Stetson Kennedy to infiltrate these groups. The League
continued its invest mitigation to expose activities throughout the nineteen fifties,
providing the FBI with intelligence about such right wing neo
Nazi groups as National Resistance Party. Oh, wasn't that the party.
Speaker 1: That's National Renaissance Party, Sorry, National Renaissance Party, Yeah, yeah,
Kurt Medig Murdick.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And also isn't it the one that what's his name,
the painter.
Speaker 1: Rockwell, George Lincoln Rockwell. I'm not sure that he had
I'm not sure he had any things to do with this.
I will look though. Yep. Well, it says the party
also endorsed standard racist ideas. As a it maintained ties
with other groups, including George Lincoln Rockwell's American Nazi Party.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: It turns out this this organization, the non secular, the
non sectarian Anti Zionist League, when it shut down was right.
Speaker 2: It seems to not get shut down at all, but
folded into the ADL. I guess that's where they kept
their really tight relationship with the FBI. Wow, we're doing
research live.
Speaker 1: Listen to this one. The National Renaissance, which, unlike its
political activities in New York, was widely influential in right
wing circles. In the early nineteen fifties, h Keith Thompson
and Frederick Weiss subsidized a larger than usual print run
of an issue of the magazine containing an essay by
Francis Parker Yaki entitled what is behind the Hanging of
the Eleven Jews in Prague? On the Prague show trials
of Rudolph Slansky and ten other Jewish members of the
Communist Party of Czechoslovakia, which Yaki had attended. Eustace Mullins,
who Martin A. Lee called the NRPS self proclaimed expert
on the us A Reserve, published his notorious article Adolf
Hitler and Appreciation in the journal as well. They were
investigated by Hugh Act for possible prosecution under the Smith Act,
and no additional action was taken.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess that's what happens when communists try and
bring something to fucking Joseph McCarthy probably not going to
look into it. God. Yeah, the uh Lewis dmabits, the
uh the gentleman that that married Brandie's daughters. Yeah, it
turns out he started then started the conservative Judaism movement.
Speaker 1: Oh well, that I mean that that's just to teach
us good Judeo Judeo Christian values.
Speaker 2: Right, yep. Wow, that's so fucking funny all the time.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's amazing once you started digging deep
into into this, how all of it's connected.
Speaker 2: Yep. Wow. So the the wife or sorry, the husband
of Lewis Brandeis, I'm sorry, the husband of the daughter
of Lewis Brandeis. The guy who was a courier for
mister Brandeis into the Roosevelt administration, then goes and gets
extremely active in conservative politics afterwards.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that that was I'm sure it was. I'm
sure he was one into the building.
Speaker 2: This is unreal. I didn't even I didn't even know
that part, all right. Like Lewis Brandeis made his career
off of going after John Pierpont Morgan and the Morgan
family and the Rockefeller family and the DuPont family. And
it seems that his progeny was, you know, after they
crushed the real American right wing, they they inserted themselves
into conservative politics at the same time as they're driving
left wing politics.
Speaker 8: It's almost like they are they're doing something. Yeah, you
could do a whole show on on just Lewis Brandeis.
Speaker 9: Oh one, Yeah, Dev's versus Understance. Wow, this guy is
unreal doing it.
Speaker 1: It's amazing to watch. Uh. I guess it's amazing to
watch us do research in real time. Huh.
Speaker 2: His final years of his career, like the rest of
the court, he initially amounted them.
Speaker 1: Was Tomarrow was responsible for like getting like Moody Moody
Bible College to pushing that Moody Bible College would take
and start using the the Schofield study bubble. And you
have to wonder, why would why would you be so
interested in that? I wonder, m.
Speaker 2: And the entire time is this dud as passing messages
to FDR. He is openly saying that he's against the
New Dealers. Wasn't Lewis Brandeis wasn't yet Lewis Brandeis was
the guy right that leaned on FDR to get who
is that crazy secretary of State that he put in
there that wanted to basically genocide all the Germans.
Speaker 1: Oh Morgan, Henry Morgan Morgenthal, Yep.
Speaker 2: Wow, Henry Morgenthal came out of the same fucking law firm.
I mean wow, all at the same time they kill
I mean, I got a credit where credit is due
is impressive. Right, They're taking over the left. They're completely
disenfranchising and chaped and like a like a face hugger
taking over the American right at the same time as
I bet your father Coughlin scared the shit out of them.
Speaker 1: Oh you want to hear something even something that I'm
finding here on the Pulah Show committee. Okay, So the
resolution that was picked up by Congressman Puugo was introduced
for a probe of Wall Street power by Charles Lindbergh
sor can you imagine that he probably did this thinking
there might be a problem here, we need to we
need to investigate it. Then all of these people take it,
run with his idea and just take it to destroy
you know, you know these men who are trying to
keep America a certain way. And do you think maybe
he learned by that and he caught his son maybe,
or maybe his son learned something by that.
Speaker 2: I think so. And funny enough, it was actually not
a lot of people know this, but I heard Thomas
say at once on your show that that the bankers
and industrialists they didn't actually want war they didn't like,
go start wars for money, right, And there's a lot
of truth to that because in the Morgan archives, right,
they basically communicated a lot of bankers did this, like
Rothchild had their own secret code. Everybody had their own
secret code. So only until very recently did a lot
of these banks open up their archives. Right. They were
obsessive about saving correspondents. But in the archives, you're going
me pull it up in news too. Yeah. Wow. So
in the run up to World War One, William Randolph
Hearst and his best at friends in the papers right
after they got in the run up to World War One,
it was when all this money trust stuff started and
the Pugio Committee started, right, basically kind of made it
toxic to be associated with kind of bost Wall Street politically.
But during World War One, right when it initially started,
it was actually Morgan and Company that tried to stop
World War One by clandestinely, by clandestinely trying to stop
the fighting between Turkey and the Baltic States in nineteen twelve, right,
they the only the only really tool he had was
to offer large loans to both sides in exchange to
agree to US mediation. To kind of catch the conflict
when it was in its early stages, because war is
terrible to banking, right, Like, what banking wants is stability, right,
Banking wants everything to continue as you know it is going,
especially when you're banking at that level when you're making
huge loans to like German industry, British industry. Like if
you were a big company like that's been in business
as long as Krupp has right, that has got a
whole bunch of government contracts and gate great government relationships.
The same as like a lot of the British arms
companies or the British shipping companies. Those are very safe
companies to to, you know, to give loans to those countries,
those companies are gonna be able to pay them off.
So the idea of one nation full of companies that
you have that you lent money to trying to blow
up another country full of companies that you lent money to, Like,
how does this benefit bankers? Like, yes, maybe they made
some money in like the U in investing in the
US companies that were making arms and making other things.
But these men already own those fucking companies anyways, so
they this clandestine diplomacy was happening out of the same
office in Paris, Morgan and Hedges that will later come
back to and the Businessman's Blot, right, So the it
was run by the head of Morgan, the head Partner
and more and Hodges and the US ambassador to France,
Myron Herrick. And Myron got both of these nations to
sit down or both of their ambassadors to sit down,
while the Morgan and Hodges partner with a letter from Pierpont.
It was like, hey, here's a gigantic loan that you
guys don't really have to pay off if you both,
you know, just agree to US mediation. And unfortunately they
didn't bite. But there's no reason for that to even
have happened. If JP Morgan wanted fucking World War One,
it doesn't make any sense. Yeah. Anyways, obviously they signed
the Brits once the warded, but they were kind of
forced to choose. At that point they had way more
loans to England than they did to Germany.
Speaker 1: I think this is right about the time we should
probably wrap up and prepare for part two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then we'll get into the actual committee because luckily enough,
the Senate did a investigatory committee into this attempted fascist coup,
so it leaves us with a lot of first hand evidence.
So lucky us. It's the McCormac Committee mc co r
M A c K committee for any of you listeners
at home that want to start digging into this and
have your fucking minds blown before p and I you know,
blowed them in the next episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the looking it up right now and trying to
find trying to find a page on it. But the
Cormac Committee.
Speaker 8: Yep, the Cormack Dickstein Committity.
Speaker 2: All right, cool, yep, the dick Stein Committee. I wonder
let me let me to early life. I'm mister dick Stein.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's not even I'm sure you don't even
have to do that.
Speaker 2: No, out of curiosity, I'm going to Wow. Yeah, I
Democratic congressman. He played a key role in establishing the
committee that became the House Committee, which used which he
used to attack fascists and Nazi sympathizers. Wow. That's nice.
That's nice of him him and Alan Weinstein. That's great.
Speaker 1: All right, Well that'll be we can we put that
out there as a as a teaser for next time.
All right, well, I'll I'll make sure to link your
your Twitter in the in the notes and everything.
Speaker 5: He was.
Speaker 2: A He was born to a Jewish family of five
children from Russia. His dad was Rabbi Israel.
Speaker 1: Dixtie settled on the Lower East Side public and private
schools City College of New York. Yeah, the there was
a time when that was one of the only colleges
that Jews could get into in New York. So it
was CCN. Why yeah, c CN why. The joke used
to be that it was circumcised Citizens of New York.
That's what they call the college.
Speaker 10: Oh man, some better time, but yeah, all right, I think, uh,
I think this time we will have a lot of fun,
you know, talking about that evil, evil Nazie coup that
mister Dickstein luckily put a stop to, Thank goodness.
Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, John, And mister McCormack is he was
born in Boston, but his dad was a Canadian mhm
hm yeah, yeah, really loves to be very mick though.
They looks like the Irish. The Irish runs deep in
that family.
Speaker 2: So I have to I have to be honest. I
can't just blame and blame the Hughes for all this.
It was the It was the Irish that were kind
of like their men on the ground. You know, the
problem with organizing all of the workers the world. They
don't mean like, you know, cubicle workers. They meant like,
you know, manual labor workers. Problem with you know, this
certain group of people trying to organize labor when they
themselves are allergic to labor, like you know, fatally allergic
to labor, and it's very difficult. You need help. And
the irishmen were more than happy to be the uh
be the bridge into the labor that these certain people
were too good to do themselves. So I can't leave
the Irish out of it, you fucking mix or just
as guilty as they are.
Speaker 11: Guilty immigrants. You're all going back. I guess I'm going
back to Where am I going? Where the hell am
I going?
Speaker 12: All right, then this is all those people that are like, oh,
we'll just leave you, yeah, like just go somewhere else,
like give up on America.
Speaker 1: Where the fuck? Where the fuck? Yeah, It's like, you know,
you had this one group that has like their you know,
built their little place in the Middle East that they
can run to if things get bad. Where the fuck
do I go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, my family's been here since one hundred more
than one hundred years since there was a United States
of Like, where am I.
Speaker 1: I actually have citizenship to another country if I if
I wanted to, I can reapply for it. I had
it at one time. I let it laps. I have
to reapply. I can get it, but I can't step
foot in that country because I've said stuff publicly. They
could get me thrown in jail in that country.
Speaker 2: Oh that that is the way of at least getting
your money out of the country is taking a flight
to Singapore. I highly recommend anybody that is listening that
has the means to do so, to do it. Singapore
is a very brilliant country that obviously because it was
created by such a noble man as a Leakwan You who.
I think everyone that is interested in politics needs to
study Leakwan You. I think he might actually be one
of the most brilliant political minds of the last sixty
seven years, and he's often overlooked a very race realist.
But in Singapore they are very smart and all the
Singapore banks have branches in the international terminal of the airport,
so you could fly to Singapore in like a layover
somewhere else, right, never even get your passport stamped. As
far as anybody knows, you were never even in Singapore,
right the same way as I, like I have a
layover in Germany, I never leave the international terminal, right,
I never I never went to Germany. But tons of
Singapore banks will happily set up accounts for you in
that international terminal. Most of them won't even ask for
docs find me another bank. Not only is it the
only banks, the only banks that ever find an international
terminal in airport, but they're also the only ones that
will take gold physical on deposit. So yeah, if you can,
if you can, if you ever want to get your
money out of the country, you can do it right.
And once you have that account set up, you can
wire from your account back home into it, and once
it goes in the US can't get it back. So
even though we can't go to join me without getting
arrested or at least our money can go somewhere.
Speaker 1: Else all right, well until until the next time. Thank
you so appreciate it. But I want to welcome everyone
back to the Pekea show. Stormy is back for part
two talking about the quote unquote Robbert Barons, how are
you doing, Stormy.
Speaker 2: I'm doing very well.
Speaker 9: I'm doing very well.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes. So in the previous
episode I mentioned that Jack now sorry, John Pierpont, Morgan's
I think a great great great grand no great great
grandfather at that point in time, was the same as
the rum Bottle pirate. It's not necessarily the case. All
he was is he was a He was a very
famous privateer during like the lead up to he was
doing sketchy stuff before the Revolutionary War, was a privateer
and then continued on being a privateer. I'm assuming in
it was it the when the when the US had
the problem with the moors. So this was like still
like what the Barbara, the Barbary Barbary pirates. There you go,
there you go. So yeah, so he was a pirate
named Morgan and a privateer named Morgan. Whether or not
that's the same Captain Morgan, probably not. I probably don't
think that it is. I don't know the genealogy of
the rum Bottle guy.
Speaker 1: Was that from was that from the house of Was
that from the house of Morgan? Book that that implied that.
Speaker 2: Yes, House of the House of Morgan. First two chapters
is about the is about his, the the Morgan family
prior to on Pierpont, right, so you had his John,
Pierpont's dad who I can't remember I'm blanking on, which
I think was just Pierpont, and then before him, going
back like two generations, three generations, so it was it
goes into very early Morgan history, long before banking and
long before Pierpont was selling American bombs to English investors,
so this would still be like, you know, British financial
primacy both pre Revolutionary War and early after. And then
so two generations it yeah, it goes back to like
the mid sixteen hundreds, Morgan family not doing too much.
It's you know, the chapters are kind of quick in
comparison to the rest of the information, you know, packed
into the later chapters. It's a nine hundred page tone,
but anybody that has the time to read it, I
really think you should because it goes into after John
died and Jack took over. The bank had gotten so big.
I was talking to a mutual friend, got a fantastic
account to follow. He and I geek out about science
and consciousness science all the time. We actually did a
really popular which I'm glad I still find it. I
still find it kind of like shocking that anybody like
finds my private interests like interesting. Yeah, I know, people
like professionally, I'm kind of used to like, you know,
speaking at summits or whatever or conferences, so I know,
like my public you know, professional ideas can sometimes be interesting.
But I still find it amazing that people find like
the stuff I nerd out to privately of value. But
he and I did a really great consciousness series, is
like the State of Consciousness Science and what the implications are.
But he and I were talking about about the peculiarities
of WASP patronage and why it's different than anything. So
a he called me because when I said in the
last show that the European aristocracy had really been dead
for two hundred years by the time the revolution rolled around,
and he very begrudgingly, you know, his colin and said like, yeah,
I think you're right. It's really really, really sad. But
by the time this sixteen hundred, seventeen hundreds, I guess
it was more similar to what we have today as elites,
just very unimpressive people that became kind of with few exceptions,
but very very vampiristic and not the type of behavior
that you and I were talking about on our first episode,
and in talking about that, we touched on kind of
the sol You're not gonna like, I've never heard of
something like this practiced in any other society or any
other culture, but you see it throughout the American you know, aristocracy,
and it died out roughly around the same time as
their power died out in the sixties was probably like
the total disenfranchisement. But by the forties it was it
was really well underway. But Jack Morgan, the son of
John Pierpont, by the time the Second or the First
World were wrapped up, JP Morgan and and really Wall
Street in its entirety had official like officially like it
was it was. It wasn't in doubt anymore. Right, the
financial headquarters, the financial capital of the world was now
New York. Right. World War One ended England's financial you
know primacy in the world, and the financial capital of
capital was in America now, and all of a sudden,
the it became very important for for JP Morgan, the
Institution two. It went from a very hyper nationalist or
a hyper national bank, right it really like all of
morgan financial power Wisconsin traded into roughly two buildings plus
Pierpont's apartment and Jack's estate in the Hamptons and that
was it. But a rapid expansion was needed before for
them to hold on to that primacy. So Jack ended
up moving to England shortly after. These guys never really
moved to any place not to you know, call them cosmopolitan,
you know, rootless cosmopolitans. But these men, you know, had
a estate in the UK usually and it wasn't just
it wasn't just Jack Morgan. A lot of these guys did,
right that they would spend the summer months because you know,
the hunting, particularly bird hunting and most importantly fox hunting
was it was just the thing to do. So these
men would have places and you know in the city
in New York City, a place in London in the city,
and then a country estate and usually another estate in
like the Hampton's or Newport Rhode Island. But Jack would
move to spend most of his time in his country estate.
He literally became like full on country gentleman, like out
of what you would imagine like downtown Abbey is, right like,
that's that's how he, you know, live the rest of
his life. He would probably spend only five or six
months back in New York because his primary focus became
the international operation of the bank, right, Like, a lot
of responsibility comes from primacy, And so the need for
JP Morgan to have a footprint in Japan, which at
this point was just rising and rapidly industrializing, capital needed
to be there, and in Shanghai, and in Brussels, and
in France, and and and that really dominated most of
Jack's involvement for the rest of his life in JP Morgan.
So US Operations was really where the core of the
business was, right you know, kind of like how all
of our even all of our corporate you know, decisions
are now made in Washington, right like it, you know
it power kind of centralizes all by itself. So the
US Operations passed on to a guy by the name
of Thomas Lamont, and Thomas Lamont is probably the It
probably doesn't sound like a very familiar name to anybody,
but if you google Thomas Lamont you'll find out he's
one of the most important people in the last you know,
from merely World War Two onto his death, which I
believe was in the eighties. All right, But the man
who made JP Morgan kind of what it is today
was Thomas Lamont and not Jack Morgan, right Jack, at
this point in time, by the time World War Two
rolled around, Jack's entire interests were politics, particularly US politics.
You know, being in Europe and seeing what was happening
in Europe just increased that even more. But I want
to touch on this type of patronage before we get
into the business plot. Thomas Lamont was an orphan, right,
a pauper. So not only did he have really no
family to speak of, No, I think he had his father,
who I believe died when he was in a twelve
or ten, and the family that Tom's father worked for, Right,
this is another thing. Right, So, like, let's say you
work for one of these men, right, like, you're their
mechanic for their automobiles. Because back then, you know, you
needed a mechanic because you probably had two cars, and
if you didn't have a mechanic, there wouldn't be a
guarantee that one of those two cars would be running
at any given time. So if you wanted a car
that you could drive, you know, whenever you wanted to.
That required a mechanic to guarantee. So, whether you're the mechanic,
whether you're the cobbler, right you make you make one
of these men's shoes, you're his tailor, right, you work
closely with any of these men, and if something were
to ever happen to you, right, this is before like
medicare medic kids. So security, like life insurance was kind
of a thing, but it was prohibitively expensive. Really, all
of insurance was prohibitively expensive in that in that time,
whether it be shipping or otherwise, there was no safety
net for you. Right, So if you're the son of
a mechanic and your dad dies, your mom is basically
going to be on the streets and the rest of
your life is gonna look like just abject horror. Right,
And what only the only the was aristocracy made a
point of doing, is whenever something like that would happen, Right,
anyone that worked for the family in any capacity, if
something were to happen, they felt it was their duty
to house whether she you know, whether you know you're
the mechanic's wife, you know your mom in this hypothetical scenario,
got moved into one of the guest homes or you know,
the maid's quarters, whether that be a separate house on
the property or inside the main house, and you would
be sent to boarding school. Right that These people, it's
it's really a shame. These men believed that it was
their duty to ensure that you were educated to like
the highest degree, right, because you were basically their responsibility. Right.
So if you going to be their responsibility, you are,
in one way, shape or form, a representation of their
of them, of their magn of who they are as
a man. Right. So, like the reason why you treat
your wife nicely or your girlfriend very nicely, the reason
why you want her to dress very nicely, be presentable,
and why you want everyone to treat her very very
well when she goes out is because she is a
representation of you. She is your proxy. Right, So if
somebody disrespects her, she's disrespect they're disrespecting you, right. And
how she appears and how she you know, carries herself
is a representation is a representation of you. Right, how
your house looks. If your house is a fucking man,
nobody's going to respect you, like your home, your family,
your wife. These are all a man's proxies, right, like
his avatars. Wherever they go, they will always be a
representation of him, the man. And these men viewed that
that boundary layer much further out than we do. Right.
So if you were in the employ of one of
these men, and God forbid, something happen to you, right,
they would take you know, that man's children as their responsibility,
not their children, right. They're not adopting them, right, but
they're taking them on because it was their duty. Right.
This man worked for me, he was under my employee,
and now something terrible, what's happened to him? It is
my job as a man to make sure that his
kids have at least every opportunity. Whatever the children do
with the opportunities, right, that's no reflection on you, But
them being denied those opportunities is a reflection on you.
You send the child of your mechanic, your former deceased mechanic,
you send him to the same boarding schools that you
send your children to, because that's the type of person
you are. Not only are your sons, it's expected that
your sons would go to this boarding school, but you
are sending that young man to the same boarding school,
which means you're basically telling something to the world. Right,
they're telling the world that they have not shirked their duty,
which is really like the defining characteristic of these you know,
how they oriented themselves in the world. So Tom Lamont
was one of those kids. And this is what the
WASP aristocracy did that no other aristocracy did. You It
was a type of eugenics. And the entire like defining
criteria was character. And you see character talked about all
the time, right, if you read anything any of the
correspondents of any of these men, whether it be Rockefeller,
would be Carnegie, whether it be DuPont, any of the
DuPont brothers, they talk about characters so much. All Right,
character is you know, everybody talks about like how base,
you know, how based the National Socialists were, you know
they you know, they understood the importance of eugenics. Where
did they get that understanding of eugenics from people.
Speaker 1: The progressive movement in the United States?
Speaker 2: Basically m no, I mean, yeah, well I would say it.
I would say it's not the progressive movement. I mean
John D. Rockefeller wasn't a progressive and he was the
guy that right, in doubt, all the all of the institutes,
but they were sorting for They were doing eugenics, but
they were sorting for character. If you look at like
all of the genetic or the eugenics discussions at the time,
they weren't trying to like root out who is going
to be like the weakest, or who is going to
be the most trail or who is going to be
the strongest and the best looking. That's not what they
were sorting for. They were sorting for character, right. It's
it's impossible to miss if you're looking at any of
the dialogue on eugenics of the time, right, like, oh, well,
you know this is a lot like in these people,
these people, you know, can't reproduce because if you look,
you know both of the parents are criminals, or the
mother is an alcoholic and the father is a criminal.
The children of this union will only have poor character.
So character was a defining thing for the aristocracy of America.
And when they would give out this patronage, right when
they take responsibility for these kids, and they would do it,
a lot like you could find it would take you
not too much searching, but you could find that you
would find out that John D. Rockefeller probably did that,
he'd probably put forty kids through private school up other
than his children, the DuPonts, even more the Morgans. This
was how they brought new blood into the aristocracy. Right
when anyone somebody was when someone was in their service
and something bad happened to that person, they would take
the children and give the children the same opportunities that
their children had, and they would see, they would sit
and wait, and if the person was of good character,
the same opportunities you know, later on in life would
be provided to them. Right. That's how you get to
be Tom Lamont, you know, orphan kid going to the
nicest prep school in America because who your dad worked for.
Speaker 1: And you were Were you aware that his great grandson
Ned is the governor of Connecticut?
Speaker 2: No? That is right now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so upsetting.
Speaker 2: That's so upsetting. One of the things I resent the
most is not being able to live in New England anymore.
I grew up in Connecticut, like I had probably the
most idyllic childhood anyone could ever have. I've done a
beautiful old stone house, uh fucking almost a mile long
driveway to a nice gate with a big stone wall,
and the stone wall ended up ended in two pillars
with lamp posts. And that's like, I don't get to
live there anymore because the city governments and the state
governments can't stop borrowing money, and the interest on that
money is literally making them insolvent. So my friends that
still live there, their property taxes are roughly about as
much as their mortgage, except for they're never going to
be able to pay off their property taxesn't unlike their
mortgage that stays roughly the same. Their property taxes double
pretty much every five years, so either their money doubles
every five years, which it doesn't. Eventually every town in
Connecticut is going to be the largest property the largest
property owners in Connecticut are going to be you know,
the towns themselves. So yeah, that and how they are
intent on, you know, running the country. It drives me
nuts that I can't even live in New England, like
the old New England's the prettiest place in the entire country.
Like sorry you know out West Bros. And sorry Montana Bros.
And sorry Wyoming Bros. Rural New England is the prettiest
place in the entire confident of the United States. It
just is and it's the only place with history, right,
Like you're not going to be walking through the woods
in anyway.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, yea, it just gets me. I think Virginia.
I think Virginia bros. Will have a have a fit
if you say it's the only place it has history.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we also have Yeah, but Virginia bros. Don't
get fall like New England gets fall, So they are
as pretty seventy five percent of the time actually, like, yeah,
seventy five percent of the time. But then, like you know,
when fall comes around, we kind of edge our way
out in front. And I'm sure they would be willing
to concede that I will concede their their springs are
probably prettier than ours because they get warmer faster. But yeah,
also another place that's been equally destroyed. So I find
it really really funny that that guy, especially with that name,
is now presiding over it. Like just the absolute destruction
of the moral compass of the boomer generation astounds me. Anyways,
I'm getting getting off track. I do that a lot,
but it was a type of patronage that I think
that we should Obviously, I don't think we should be
putting strangers kids through college or to school. But I
think that this is something that all of us can do,
right if you. I think if somebody loses their job
in our thing, I think it's every one of our
duties to try and help that person find a new job,
like at bare minimum.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just released it. I just released an
episode this week today myself and uh not me, not
you from OGC. He he was on the ground in
North Carolina for the past Uh yeah, he was there
after the try to help with the relief efforts and everything.
And you know, one of the things he said at
the end was he said, young guys who think you
you know, you're missing out on adventure, go there right now.
People need help. There are people who are willing to
help their The means are there. You can click up
with people in the Old Glory Club who are on
the ground right now. Go do it, and we owe it.
We owe it to these people to do it.
Speaker 2: How many people took him up on that?
Speaker 1: I just released the episode so three hours ago, So.
Speaker 2: Okay, I missed that first part. Yeah. I strongly encourage
anybody that's listening to this to go then listen to
that episode. Out and just we need to be better
because we used to be better, and we're really good
at making excuses. And I think that's what mud like.
I think that's one of the biggest crutches of our time,
is that we've gotten so much better and there's so
many like little things that take away your time or
could consume your time whatever, that we've gotten really good
at coming up with excuses or the excuses are provided
to us for why we don't do things that we
know we should. So I know there's a couple guys
in the in you know, our thing that you know,
I've tried to help employee, sorry not personally, but make
sure that they are introduced to people that will give
them a career that they want or a career that
I think that they would be very foolish to not take.
And if you're listening to this and you're in a
similar position, that needs to be something you do if
something bad happens to somebody in our not just in
our thing, Like if you're listening to this, you have
a responsibility to be better than everybody else and not
like in the way that all the people in our
that some people in our thing LARP as aristocrats, as
disenfranchised aristocrats. There's nothing that The way the term has
been kind of banded around or sorry bad it about
in our things is really kind of like how you know,
the way people and our thing view aristocracy or nobilities
really no different than how a I don't know how
a drug dealer views wealth. Right, it's there's a term
I want to use, but I know this is probably
gonna go on YouTube, so I won't use it. But
it is h It's n word rich. And we have
a similar concept of nobility and aristocracy. If we go
back in time, what did men of means think of nobility? Well,
they didn't think it was about being better than anybody else. Right,
you don't build two thousand churches three thousand churches because
you're better than everybody else. You don't build every public
library in the nation because you're better than everybody else.
You build them because you want everybody else to be better,
just period better, which means that you wouldn't be so
much better than them. Right, if your whole identity is
being better than everybody else, the last thing that you
would want to do is to give people the means.
People that you viewed beneath you the means to self actualization,
to be better. But in fact, that is your duty.
That's what nobility is really all about. It's about those
four letters. So whether it's go to North Carolina and
help out, I apologize that was very rude. I put
my phone on silent. I thought I already did that.
It's your duty to go to North Carolina if you
can and help out. It's your duty to help get
one of our guys a job when he gets docks
or laid off. It's your duty to help chip in
if some unforeseen and regrettable medical thing happens to one
of our guys or just someone you know, right and
they don't have insurance, Like we shirk so much of
our duty to our fellow people, and we view it like,
oh whoa. You know, sometimes it's tied up in like
religious things, but it's just it's not like charity can
and is part of, you know, the Christian faith. But
that's also just what you should do. If you look
like me and you look like Pete, that's your responsibility.
And I think that's probably the thing that's the most
regrettable out of all the things that we've lost. I
think that one's the worst.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole idea of like when we when we
had our event, the Old Glory Club had our event.
You know, it's suit, it's jacket and high the whole time,
the whole time, the Old Glory Club here in Alabama,
when we meet, it's at least jacket. And there's a
reason there's yeah, and there's a reason for that. And
I think a lot of people don't don't understand just
exactly how casual and that word has many meanings and
it can be taken many ways. We become about the
way we carry ourselves.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, how we speak.
Speaker 1: Wearing a jacket. Wearing a jacket makes it a lot
easier to to hide a weapon too, So.
Speaker 2: There is you can actually hide a weapon and several reloods.
You can get at least a couple of mags in
and probably a PC seed depending on how chunky you are.
If anybody is listening that doesn't have the capital for
like a nice suit or a nice suit jacket, I
want you to dm me. If you do have the
capital and you lie about it to get some really
really really sick you know dress attire, you'll have to
live with that for the rest of your life. I
don't know what that's going to be like, but I
can't imagine it's great.
Speaker 1: So yeah, well you would you would hope that somebody's
conscience would be uh, would.
Speaker 2: Be clear exactly.
Speaker 1: You would hope that, Yeah, you'd hope we're dealing with
quality people here, and I know we are, so let's uh.
Speaker 2: Very high quality men. All right, So let's talk a
little bit about the specter of fascism in America.
Speaker 1: Let's do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So the organization that the business plot was
was done out under right like, what the official organization
was was something called the American Liberty League. And I
know we touched a little bit on it at the
end of last episode, and I'm probably gonna have to
do some house cleaning again on the next one. I
make broad strokes, So yeah, just salt the taste. But
if I were to say right wing fascist and then
I were to say Huey Long, would you think those
things are diametrically opposed or simpler?
Speaker 1: I have. I have no issue with the term right
wing fascist and Huey Long being in the same sense.
Speaker 2: Well they were, so, mister mister Huey Long was a
very Avid Voe. So this is a this is a
this is a bigger thing. I I'm getting this hu
belong and and what what his role in this was,
but his presence kind of it points to a larger
trend about what was going on or what these men
thought was going on, right, Because what is fascism? Why
does Mussolini's Italy and how his government functions, and Hitler's
Germany and how the Reich functioned, and Franco's Spain and
how that government functioned. Right, If I were to try
and like draw parallels, I would be I'd be in
big trouble, because if fascism is a type of governance structure,
how come all the fascist governments are different? Right? Like
if you know Mussolini and Franco are the same thing,
right Like how maose Dung and you know Stalin are
supposedly are the same thing. They're both communists, right, well,
their governments function almost identically that you have the same
names for the same shit. But I'd be hard pressed
to find really any parallels between any of the so
called fascist nations. The only parallel that I can find,
the only commonality between any of them, all of them
is that they came about as an immune response to
communist revolution. That's the only commonality they have, that their
nations were undergoing a communist revolution, and these were the
men that were organized and capable of fighting against it
and pushing back against it to protect their a their
nation and b all of the citizens in there, even
the reluctant lefty ones. That's the only commonality. So is
the US and the attempted fascism? Is that any different?
And I would argue, no, it's not. And we joke
about what was you know, we joke about FDR, we
joke about the New Deal. We've got a million jokes.
And the Venona cables proved that there were in fact
a lot of commies in the Roosevelt government and many
of the governments subsequent. But what are the men at
the time think and why were they so scared? Because
they were scared of something right or else? Huey Long
John J. Braskin, the founder and chairman of General Motors,
a long time Democrat and DNC supporter. Right, I believe
at one time he was co chair of the DNC.
He actually was head of the committee that got FDR elected.
So what the fuck is he doing? In the American
Liberty League, And why is he so scared about what's
happening with FDR or what about Al Smith? Al Smith's
a very interesting man. He was the chairman of the
d n C at the time that FDR got elected, right,
he was actually the Democrat candidate for president the election cycle.
Priger like, you couldn't get more on the same team
as FDR. But somehow now John J. Raskin and Al
Smith longtime Governor of New York and chairman of the
Democrat Party, and these guys and Huey Long are on
the same team as Irony DuPont and Pierre DuPont. Iron DuPont,
I mean, this guy funded every extremist right wing political
movement in America his entire lifetime, since he was like fourteen.
He's basically the polar opposite to John Raskin and Al
Smith and and Huey Long. Huey Long got famous for
fighting Standard Oil and taking a percentage of those oil
profits at the Great State of Louisiana was making and
giving it to some of the people in Louisiana. Right,
Standard Oil tried sending people to beat him into a
or kill him. I don't think I actually kill him,
but you know, beat the hell out of him, and
he fought Standard Oil for years like he was enemy
number one on John Rockefeller's list for better part of
half a decade. So why is Hute Long on the
American Liberty League with John D. Rockefeller? I thought that
was very old So the Rockefeller Boys at this point
he was either he had either just passed, but the
Rockefeller boys. I don't want to have to do more
house cleaning next time, right, Why are these men? Why
is John Raskin on the same team as Henry Ford
and Pierpont Morgan? Again, why is the chairman of General
Motors on the same team as the Pounder chairman of Ford?
What were these men afraid of? Because they were afraid
of something? Because outside of the American Liberty League, these men,
I would be surprised if the two, if any of
them bumped into each other on the street, a fight
would ensue. With Huey Long, I guarantee it. So what
made these men come together? And there is a speech
that Pete I sent you this morning that I came
across that just kind of I'm gonna read the last
couple of pages or sorry, the last couple of paragraphs.
They're short, right that all right, here we go, here
we go. Now, in conclusion, let me give this solemn warning.
There can be one capital. It is either Washington or Moscow.
There can be only one atmosphere of government, the clear,
the pure, the fresh, free air of America or the
foul breath of communist Russia. There can be only one flag,
the Stars and the stripes or the red flag of
the godless Soviet Union. There can be only one national anthem,
the star spangled banner or the internationale. And there can
be only one victor. If the Constitution wins, we win.
But if the constitution stop, damn, he's really good. Stop
stop there. The constitution can't lose. The fact is it
has already won, but the news has not reached certain years.
And this was from the first meaning of the American
Liberty League in nineteen thirty two. This is from I
found this in a cycle teaching American history. It's like
a progressive like I guess if you're on some progressive
college for a law degree, like this is where you
go for additional resources. But here's the study questions, In
what way does Smith believe that the Democrat sort of
the Democratic administration he helped put into office as the
chair of that DNC has not been faithful to the
Democrat Party's platform of nineteen thirty two. Why does he
think the New Deal is somehow Russian Bolshevism and in
league with the Soviet Union? And what is he calling
his fellow Democrats and Republicans to do? That's a study
question maybe, I mean, anybody that needs it as a
study question, just read what I read. I don't know
if that's a question to you. I don't think you've
got a very prominent career in law I had. And
what does Smith's critique of the New Deal compared to
that of Herbert Hoover in his speech this Challenge to Liberty?
And how does it compare to the criticisms of one
Huey Long in his speech the Statement on the Share
of Our Wealth Society and Father Coughlan a Third Party?
A Challenge to Liberty by Hoover was written to nine.
It was given in nineteen thirty six. Huey Longs speech
December of nineteen thirty five, and Father Coughlan's a Third
Party in nineteen thirty six. What the fuck does Al Smith,
a Catholic and an Irishman, the chairman of the Democratic
National Committee, former Democratic presidential candidate Herbert Hoover, the previous
president Republican Huey Long. Like Huey Long is just Huey Long.
He's like you can't even call him like a member
of a party. Like he was a political force in
and of himself and he ran the state of Louis
Canada that way, What is Seewey Long, Al Smith, Herbert Hoover,
and Father Coughlin have in common? Your father Coughlin? Really?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta yea yeah, strange Bedfellows, Right, I mean,
it's very It's a good question, and you know, I
think maybe even a better question at this point is, well,
what why don't we learn about this in school?
Speaker 2: Right? Like this? I mean you want to talk about bipartisanship, right, Like,
if this isn't a go, this isn't unity, I don't
know what is And what force was so strong that
Jack Morgan, now Rockefeller, John Braskin Irie and Pierre DuPont,
Al Smith, Huey Long, Father Conklin, Henry Ford, Like what's
more powerful than that?
Speaker 1: Yes, when you have this head, when you have the head.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: When you have the head of Ford Motor Company and
the head of GM coming together to agree on something, yes, yep.
And this wasn't them coming together to be to a plot,
to be like, oh yeah, let's let's corner the market
on this and everything, no matter what Tucker wanted to say.
You know, ten years after this, fifteen years after this,
now this was something different. These this was something different.
Speaker 2: Where is my ancient Greek history, bros? Right now? Because
I'm pretty sure this is exactly what all the Greek
city states had to do. They did take a break
from killing each other when Xerxes showed up. Go ahead, Pete, Sorry.
Speaker 1: Well I was going to say when obviously, when you
look at this, you realize that this is a movement
that the people who they were going against realized had power,
had money behind it, had influence behind it. And then
you you, well, what's one way to just put a
bullet in this. Well, we've been attacked, we have to
go to war. If you don't all come together. Now, well,
you're I guess you're anti American. I guess you're on
the side. I guess you're on the side of the
Japanese or you're on the side. You're on the side
of the Germans, and well, well you know, or they
could have said you're on the side of the Soviets,
but no, they took the side of the Soviets. But
now how to start Not only he has to start
at too theater war, you just have two wars going
on just to stop this and just to shut them up.
And then after the war, what do you have? You
have the greatest propaganda campaign of all time, which basically
makes these men criminals monsters yep.
Speaker 2: Like if you think that these men were anything like that,
they how they were portrayed, just monster capitalists that only
cared about money. You don't know anything about money. I'm
not saying that I do. But I have led a
rather charmed life so far. I could get hit by
a bus tomorrow, so I'm going to add that caveat
in there, and I wouldn't be angry if I did.
But one thing, I have been able to observe both
a change in myself as I became more successful, and
also from observing those who had more success than a
one person could could possibly ask God for and not
feel like they were sinning those people. People that have
money that can't be spent right if you have let's
say fifty billion dollars right, and a reasonable reasonable rate
of return. And this is what lefties don't understand about money.
That is how interest works. And so let's say we
have fifty billion dollars one two three mm hmmm, I
have million one two three five billion times point? What
M one two three? So if you have fifty billion,
let's say the first year you act like an absolute maniac.
You don't just buy one jet. You buy three at
one hundred and fifty million a pop, sometimes more, depending
they started one hundred and fifty. And you buy not
one house, but you buy five, one in every place
you like coming right, one for every season, plus a
bonus one maybe, and you buy palatial estates, say thirty
to fifty million, right, So what is that? I'm up
to three four and a half, So four hundred and
fifty million plus another one hundred million in five houses,
so I might like five hundred and fifty million. What else?
What else do we need to buy? What could you
possibly think of? Maybe a yacht, a mega yacht? You
want megayacht? Okay, let's say, yeah, I don't like boats
all that much I'm a very bad WASP. I don't
I don't go sailing, I don't know how to sale,
and I'm terrible at golf. So like all of my
WASP credentials, like, it's a good thing. I'm very well
read and I speak well because all of my all
of my other WASP credentials, Like, it's pretty rough. Say
you buy another, but you buy a megabout one hundred
and fifty million, which I think is roughly what Bezos
spent on a Now I spent two hundred million. Let's
just say two hundred million. Fuck it, we're only seven
hundred and fifty million in. We haven't even cracked our
first billion yet. We haven't even cracked a billion dollars yet.
So that fifty billion dollars that earns an interest every
year at a reasonable rate of return ten percent probably,
I mean honestly, ultra low risk and probably to pull
five percent. But you're going to have to pull ten
now because you're losing five to inflation. Sorry, bouts. That's
five hundred million a year. So the crazy spending spree
that we just talked about, you would have to do
that every year. You can't. You couldn't, right it would
take you, you know, weeks and weeks and weeks just
to pick out the different leathers on one of the planes,
let alone three Right, you're like three months in just
inspecting jets, not even including the you know, the homes,
than the boat, got the fucking boat, every single thing
I think you you know, you see and or touch
on a boat, you get to pick like. You couldn't
spend the money fast enough, So you are earning more
money than it is humanly possible to spend and you're
not even touching the principle, right, So that fifty million
or fifty billion is never getting spent. And if you spent,
it would take every day of your life to do
nothing but try and figure out new ways, creative ways
to spend money, and you still wouldn't even be able
to burn through half a billion a year. Good God,
So these people to think that these people care about money,
do things for money, even talk about money. Any there's
a good rule. My dad taught it to me, and hopefully,
God willing, I will teach it to my son because
it served me very well in life. Anybody that talks
about money doesn't fucking have any So to think that
any of these men did anything because of money to
make more money. You simply don't understand wealth. What motivates
these men? If I could think of any remotely tangential
I'm sorry, tangential motivator that had anything to do with
money would be capital preservation. Right, you could probably get
these guys to do stuff to protect what they already have.
But if you think they're going to do, you know,
political machinations that could end them up and them in jail,
or hurt their legacy, tarnish their reputation. These men valued
reputation and standing far more than they valued money, and
so would you. I know it sounds ridiculous, It sounds
ridiculous to you. But if you're the guy that is in,
you know, in that hypothetical situation that I had to
fucking pull out my calculator for because I'm retarded, If
you're that guy, he doesn't care about money. He probably
cares a hell of a lot more about what people
think of him, how he's perceived, than some investment or
a chance to make more money that what he can't spend.
So when you look at these guys like Elon Right
and recent Fiel, you think money motivates them. You're nuts.
You don't understand money. Granted, I wish that they would
take a page out of the book of the great
men that came before them, because now all they are
is just nerds with money. That makes me sad. You know,
Elon wants to go to Mars because he wants to
go to Mars, not because he wants humanity to be
a space faring nation, right or America, you know, to
dominate Mars as our next like he that is tertiary.
Maybe he wants to go to space because Elon Musk
wants to go to space. So the one thing that
I wish that are rich nerds would look back in
time and see and I understand why they haven't because
the history of these men, what these men were really like,
has been hidden. The only reason I know about it
is because these are family stories, right, Like Pete, you
know a bit about me in my private life. This
is relevant to me, and that's why I know it.
So I can't get angry at anybody for not knowing
what these men were actually like when everything that's written
about them is a fucking lie. But now that we're
starting to clear up the record, right looking back with
clear eyes and sound judgment and a level of discernment
that we did not previously have until certain ethnocentric machinations
were revealed to us. However, I mean, we each got
here different ways, but now that we have, we need
to hold our relief to a higher standard, because if
you have fifty billion dollars, it's not about you anymore.
Right back to that four letter word, that is the founding,
the central pillar of our society. Right we live in
the house built for us by better men. We just
fucking live here. We didn't build it, they did. We
just get to hang out in it and stop people
from tearing it down. But when we compare ourselves to them,
these men, our elites, don't stack up that great. Our
rich men are just rich men, and that's sad. So
I hope that they familiarize themselves with these great men
who've been slandered to just an insane degree, and how
much they've been slandered should tell you a lot about
how great they were. I don't want Musk to build
a public library in every town like Andrew Carnegie did.
I don't want Peter Thiol to build twenty five hundred churches.
In every city in America because that's already been done.
But I want them to look. Sorry, I suck at
swallowing today, I want them to look at these men
for inspiration to do something different. Dare I say better?
It'll be hard to do, you know, one up of
these guys, but it's a worthy pursuit. And I bet
you America in the state it is now if you
look at how it's embraced Donald Trump, we are desperate,
Like desperate doesn't like it. It almost isn't like a
strong enough word, but we are desperate for nobility. And
if you look back in the time that this was happening,
America loved these men. You can be a rich nerd
cool like nobody knows you. This is why you're scared
of dying. You're throwing millions and millions and millions of
dollars into biotech research to squeeze days and days is
more life because you're scared of dying. All right, if
you know you're gonna be remembered and loved for what,
Like it's two hundred years almost and we're still talking
about one hundred years and we're still talking to these men.
We'll be talking about him for another hundred more. Like you're immortal.
You don't have to be like that guy who's like
sticking his dick in a freezer. All right, whatever his
name is, something Johnson a fitting name, right for a
guy trying to reverse his age, fucking Hubris the Pride.
But really all it is is just he's scared of dying,
probably because he's gonna have to meet God, and when
that happens, he's going to have to tell him what
he did with the most precious gift that he was given,
and he won't have much to say.
Speaker 1: This is this is part of the reason, and a
lot of the reason, I would say probably if you
really want to look back on at the majority of
the reason that you're not allowed to live historically anymore,
then you you're not allowed to. I mean, if you're
not allowed to, if you're dissuaded, if you're told it's
wrong to look upon your ancestors and have pride in
them and know and celebrate their accomplishments, how much less
the accomplishments of people you don't know. So it's just
a it's just another mechanism for destroying our civilization and
destroying what can before us, making us believe that everything
that happened back at this time, Oh, this was such
a terrible time to live. There were these people who
all they wanted to do was get rich, and they
would do they would do anything to gain to gain
wealth and gain power. And then when you look and
you find out that they saw what was coming down
the line, they saw, you know, the takeover by a
foreign entity, and they tried to do everything they could
to stop it. And it was only because of you know,
a soldier who you know, killed Haitians and you know
actually in the field serves as country well from everything
I've read, But when it came down to it, he
was a fucking comy. Yeah, and he sided with the commies.
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is that a rare bit of
justice was served. He lived to regret it. He lived
to see it. The thing that Smdley Butther was so
desperately afraid of was World War One happening again. And
the very man that he betrayed to FDR. We're trying
to stop the thing that he was so afraid of,
and he sacrificed all those men. Right. What happened to
Father Coughlin, What happened to Henry Ford, right, These men
were killed, right, just like the guy freezing his dick
off right now, he's scared of dying because he doesn't
have a legacy, right, He's never going to have immortality.
So they killed these men's memories off, which I think
is far works.
Speaker 1: And here we long, and here we long. They killed. Yeah,
they assassinated he a tribesman. A tribesman assassinated him.
Speaker 2: There's a Without talking myself, I think I've told you this, Pete,
but there is a very widely shared suspicion and rumor
in my family that a similar man, at a similar
time and a similar mission was also killed. There's a
lot of killing. I think that was done in the
lead up to World War two to make it happen.
I think it's no different than what we saw in
the sixties. Right. If these people are willing to kill
to keep that little place, we have to assume that
they were willing to kill to get it. And Smedley
Butler got to live long enough to try and give
speeches against FDR once the man did what he because remember,
like FDR was campaigning on not taking just like fucking
Wilson campaigning on what was Wilson's campaign speech, I will
not be sending or his campaign slogan like I won't
be sending our boys off to some war. Right. His
re election thing was Wilson he kept us out of
war for his first term, But what he didn't tell
everybody is that he was already planning getting us into it.
He just needed his second term. And that's what FDR did.
So the man that Smedley Butler saved, all right, and
betrayed men that trusted him, he saved because he'd bought
that FDR actually wanted to keep us out of war.
And less than two years after he did it, after
he betrayed all these men, he lived to see that
they were right and that he was wrong. So I
don't know what Smedley Butler's death was like, but I
can't imagine it was good because I believe, like at
the point that you're dying rights as that's happening, kind
of the veil things between our world and theirs. And
from what I've heard, from what I've read in the accounts,
that how a man like you know, if a man
lives a certain way, when he dies, you know, his
flesh will be will begin to be clawed at before
he actually passes. This is why some men die screaming.
And if you live a different way, that doesn't happen
to you. In fact, the opposite happens to you. There
are those that die smiling and calm and happy content
And I don't think he was content when he died,
because hundreds of thousands of American boys were being turned
into mulch because of him. Would never be the same again.
It would be I don't know, trying to think of
a better word than you know, like the body snatchers.
But that's what happened all because of him. And it
was pride if you read and encourage everyone to. After
Smithley Butler gave his testimony to the Senate, he did
a public announcement kind of like Roosevelt's fireside chat. The
TV and the radio is just like a thing, and
it's recorded. It's really good at least the recording quality
this is really good. And you basically see this man
and so proud of himself for what he did, and
like you could just you could just see this man
this he was fucking smug, like I did this because
I'm a great American and da da da da da
da da da da, and it just smacks of pride.
It's it's really kind of painful to watch. And anyways,
he thought that it was his, you know, he was
saving the country by turning in these traders. It was like,
you know, it all hinged on him. It turns out
he was the one that handed the country over two monsters,
the monsters that these men were terrified of enough to
where they would reach out to their sworn enemies, and
their sworn enemies would reach out to them and they
would come together to try and fight it. And he
was too fucking stupid to ever think because before he
did turn thement, he before he did go public, he
did spend probably the last six months before he brought
the like he even brought in like a journalist's rent
to document it, you know, these meetings, because he needed
an extra credibility. He thought nobody was going to believe him.
He was literally planning like his book tour. Basically, he
brought a writer along with him to document, you know,
his detective work in finding out who all of these
people were. You know, he literally thought he was you know,
James Bond hadn't been invented yet. But anyways, that's the guy,
and so many of our I wouldn't say our guys entirely,
but I do see it occasionally glorify this man. They
all go around talking about, you know, war is a racket. No,
war is a diversion. In this instance, all right, Smedley
Butler didn't see the racket. He was the useful idiot.
So I don't want a man with that just deficit
of judgment to tell me what is a racket and
what is not, because he clearly can't see one when
one is staring him in the face. So I don't
think Smedley Butler is qualified to tell any of us
anything except I guess how to blindly betray your country
and sentence the nation's progeny for three generations to vampirism.
Because that's what happened after these guys were gone. Nobody,
no rich men built any more churches, no one built
public libraries anymore. The whole concept of a public library
didn't exist. Like there were university libraries that sometimes people
regular people could go to, But the idea of a
library of building just full of books for you and
your small town in Minnesota just for you. Why, Because
you're an American. That's why you deserve unlimited knowledge. We
want you to have every book there is to have,
and if it doesn't have it, tell the lady at
the counter and she'll get it for you in a week.
Like that didn't exist anywhere, and it never existed again
thanks to him, because no rich men after this ever
did anything like it, because the type of men that
were allowed to be rich were different. They sure as
fuck weren't great.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's also when you, even if you
do have the idea to do something, knowing what's gonna
brain down upon you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what's your incentive to be great? Now? Holy
hell coming down on you like that? Like that's American policy.
Now we tear down those that are great because their
greatness exposes the weakness of everybody else. So they must
be destroyed and we need and so you know that
I have like a I think a friend that was
a was a you know, a political person a long
time you know person in Congress was vment Danti Trumper.
Speaker 1: Yep, I am, yep. I know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: And do you want to know why he I already
told you why that this man went from the most
vment d anti Trumper. He has quite a platform, uh,
to the I would probably say, no man in DC
believes in Donald Trump like this man. And this man
has known politics since he was like twelve. He was
involved in, like literally involved in like you say it,
staying at the YMCA.
Speaker 1: So everyone would know this person. Everyone would know this
person's name even if you weren't alive when he was,
you know, in a very prominent position.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this person said, when asked by other people of like,
you know, similar stature, why how he could possibly support
Donald Trump. And when we're talking about holy hell raining
down on you, you could say whatever you want about Donald Trump.
But this guy said, I've studied, like I've studied and
been a part of politics and American politics all of
my life, and I've never seen any presidential candidate, any president,
do what Donald Trump has done. He said, It's like
something out of a history book. Yeah, Donald Trump after
his first term could have And this is why this
guy didn't. Wasn't a big supporter of him until I
would probably say the lawfair started right when all the
court cases, the felony started just raining down on Donald Trump.
That's when this guy had his conversion, because he said
that every single president of his lifetime, he could pretty
much kind of guess all of his acts, basically how
they would act in any given situation, in any adversarious situation.
He said, I never guessed what Donald Trump did. Like
Donald Trump could be He could spend the rest of
his days out on one of the many eaches he
probably owns outside of mar Alango, which is on the
which is on the beach, right, Or he could be
playing golf at any one of the resorts that he
owns right to bear his name. He could be in
beautiful castles, stunning beach resorts, being served on handed foot,
surrounded by his big, gorgeous family. Right, his beautiful wife
like Millennia's hot, his gorgeous kids right, all of his
sons are fucking studs. His daughter's hot like just cranking
out even more handsome grandchildren. Just a man at the
pinnacle of success, surrounded by loved ones all the time.
And not only is he risking all of that as
he put all of that on the line, but not
just him, because not only will Donald Trump be destroyed
and everything stripped away from him, this political guy knows it.
I know it, Pete knows it. You know it. That
they'll destroy his kids too. They'll probably destroy his grandkids.
They may not throw them in jail like they would him,
but they will strip away every single bit of inheritance.
They would have gotten every dollar, all the legacy. And
I can't even imagine what Donald Trump's kids would be
like if he lost, Like what their life would be like,
because it's not just like not being rich anymore, because
that wouldn't be it. It would be worse than that.
The regime is sadistic. The regime hates like we hate
the regime, but that's the regime started that we didn't
start that, you know, they had first. But they hate.
The regime hates nothing more than it hates Donald Trump.
It would destroy his kids, his grandkids. And this man
is willing to put it all on the line, not
for any reward. Right like, Donald Trump's life doesn't get better.
He spends the last couple of years basically working for
shitty pay, not fucking golfing and resorts or like chilling
on some fucking beach. The White House is shitty inside.
Anyone who's been inside. It's an old building it fucking
smells like it. It's gross. Because he believes that he
can make America better. That's why he believes it. Whether
you say, like, oh, like you know, he's he's compromising
this way or that way, whatever, like that's your opinion.
In certain parts, I'd probably agree with you. But he
believes that he can make the country better, and he
is willing to risk everything in his life and his
children's life, his entire legacy, that immortality that we were
talking about, Yeah, that's gone. They will they will destroy
him worse than they destroyed any of the men that
I mentioned. And that's what made this man a convert's
He's the most fucking vehement Trumper I've ever met, more
than me because he knows history more than me. He
knows political history more than me. That's why. And if
Donald Trump can do it, you know, this fucking kind
of you know, rough around the edges, you know, not exactly.
It's a good thing Donald Trump owned, you know, built
the nowns a lot of country clubs because he fucking
wouldn't get invited to many. All right, He's from Queens.
He's kind of poorish, at least from the standing of
people that run country clubs. So if he can do it,
if he's willing to be like this, I think Elon
is just starting to get there. But every single one
of those men, the men that we talked about, they
would do what Donald Trump did in a heartbeat, and
most of them did. And they were just business men.
They were just rich guys. So if you're a man
of meetings, it's your duty to do what Donald Trump did,
all right, just like every single one of these There's
a listener that Pete, Pete told me about, and I'll
close this off on on him. Even though he went
to a prep school that was the the school he
went to should make him my sworn enemy, because his
school was the sworn enemy of mine. H We had
men that would be like Mike Frederick.
Speaker 12: T.
Speaker 2: Davison or f Trueby Davison depending all right, when you
talk about like American aristocracy, this guy was one of them.
He's a Yale guy. I won't hold that against him,
all right, scone bones kid like probably the most privilege
of privileged classes, and even you know, even as a kid,
and he wouldn't have been able to do this unless
his parents didn't think it was his duty. So Davison
was the founder of the Yale the first Yale Unit
or first Yale Air unit. So when I mentioned that
those young men in the previous episode that had everything right,
not at the world was their oyster, what did they
do when America got into a conflict and what did
their fathers do? Yes, their fathers were too old to
fight when World War two where World War one came around,
and now every single one of us would not let
our children anywhere near recruitment office. But this was different
times and these were different men. So Davison was the
founder of that air club that I talked about. America's
first air force was young men from Yale and their
personal planes, right, And most of them didn't come back.
Luckily for us, Truby did come back, but I bet
most of his friends didn't. So we had elites that
made sure that their sons not only served, but served
in combat led men. Right. So these great men were
willing to risk their legacy right their offspring. It doesn't say,
but I'm pretty sure Trupy was probably the eldest son
because he you know, he Usually when young men go
by their first initial and their middle name, usually it's
because somebody else in the family is also named that,
right like Jack is just short for John and John
JP Morgan his dad was Pierpont, so he didn't want
to go by John Pierpont. This won by JP. I
imagine mister Davison, it probably it probably worried him sick
sending his boys to war, especially something as risky as
a fucking airplane back in those days. But I bet
you he didn't think twice about it, just as like
in early twenties, Truby Davison didn't think twice about taking
his plane and his friends. Right, most of the first
Yale air Unit was comprised of young men that were
in Skull and Bones or Scrolling Key, which is a
similar organization at a different school. Right, Like, these men
could have known whatever they wanted and what they wanted
to do was their duty, and that's what their parents,
their fathers wanted. It was more important that their sons
did their duty than their sons stayed alive. Because most
of those men, right, the Raskins, this myths, the DuPonts,
they knew that some of their boys were not coming back,
and they did it anyways. Now, our elites, our elites
send other people's kids to die. So I just hope
some of our elites now, the elites that have realized
what time it is, that they hold themselves to the
standard of not even just guys like Truby or guys
like Rasking Dupond or Carnegie or Morgan or Rockefeller, like
those are big megashoes, but to hold themselves upo the
same standard as Donald Trump is doing right now, like
a real estate developer from Queens is making every rich
guy look like a coward.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you would hope that those people are out
there and that they're they're thinking about it and they're
making plays. I guess we shall see, because I mean,
you know, one of the one of the points of
of the Old Glory Club is to identify and raise
up elites. And it all starts with elite thinking yes.
And that's what people That's what a lot of people
don't get is you don't have to think like you've
been taught. You don't have to think like the cog
that school. You know, I was lucky enough to go
to prep school, you know it, to start by to
start my secondary education in a pretty prestigious prep school,
and it gave me an attitude. It basically gave me.
It gave me an It hasn't always been the best
attitude I've.
Speaker 2: Been able talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I've been able to reel it in. And
most people just don't get that. You're not getting that
in a classroom full of my classrooms were were ten
fifteen people. You're not getting that in a classroom full
of forty and fifty people and the teacher. You look
at the teacher and you're like, shit, I'm smarter than
that person. Because I'm assuming a lot of people who
are listening to this did the same thing as me
in school, especially in high school, definitely in college. Oh wow,
I'm smarter than this person. This person's a moron, And yeah,
there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that
kind of attitude.
Speaker 2: No, I bet you. The attitude that you're talking about
specifically was that the rules don't apply to you. The
rules apply to other people, right, you know, the people
dumb enough to follow them, like the people get the color,
you know, within the la Like okay, but yeah, the
one thing we're really good at, I would say, as
a thing I guess is meming things into existence. All right,
like we are setting. I mentioned this on Jason's podcast.
Everybody should go listen to Jason Marrinchuk's podcast. He's got
guys much better than me on it, Like Dark Enlightenment,
it's just a brilliant resource. But I mentioned it on
his podcast that even though we don't realize it, we're
too dumb to realize it, and we've been losing so
long we don't even see who we're winning. We're driving
the culturals igeist. If you don't see that, you're foolish.
All right, the culture is coming to us. I could
probably waste another hour and a half of Pete's Evening
giving you examples of doing that or how it's doing that,
But I think you can already think of some of yourself. Right. So,
if we're setting the cultural tempo, if we're setting the
narrative that the other side testified against, and we're really
good at meming things into existence, we need to meme,
we need to propagate, and we need to carry ourselves accordingly.
We need to bring back duty. And there is a
very unhealthy attitude that because the system hates me, I
hate it and I have no duty to it. That's
the wrong way to think about it. The system this nation.
And I may disagree with the E on this right,
but that's my flag. When I look in DC, I
see my buildings. When I look at this country, I
see mine, my country, the people that are in it mine.
These are my people. And just like the people that
worked for guys like Jack Morgan, if you're listening to this,
you have a duty to them because they're your people, right, You,
like Pete mentioned, probably smarter than everybody in class, probably
smarter than the person teaching you. In a better time,
you would have ended up in a better place. But
we don't ask for better times, and we don't ask
for easier jobs. We don't ask for, you know, an
easier go at it. So these are your people. The
institutions are your institutions. The buildings that they occupy are yours.
Just because some guests have long overstayed there welcome doesn't
make the guesthouse no longer your house. Right, the people
in your house are yours and your responsibility. Whether it's
the people in North Carolina, whether it's the people that
are less fortunate in your community, you need to act accordingly. Right,
Aristocracy isn't about thinking you're better. It's about making people
that are your responsibility better. Give them the ability for
self actualization to be the best that they can be
with the gifts that God gave them. That's your job.
If anybody tries to hurt them or take away their
ability for that actualization, it's your responsibility to make sure
that doesn't happen. We need to be shepherds, not edge lords.
We're better than these people, not because we think we're better.
Others will think we're better because that's because they're going
to be watching what we do. We're just going to
be better because we are better. And I think we
need to. I think we're in that stage at the
game that we need to start taking ourselves quite a
bit more seriously than we do now, how we act
in our communities, how we act in our day to
day lives, because very soon, I mean, if you understand
Rogers's theorem, it's how social networks work, It's how technology works.
It's originally used to model the propagation of technology. It's
very important to technology or for two tech entrepreneurs. Every
tech guy or any founder at least knows what I'm
talking about. Elon knows what I'm talking about guarantee it
right because as you're planning your tech company out right,
it's very important that you understand about how quickly those
ideas right, your new way of doing things, your new
piece of technology propagates throughout society like somebody's come up
with a new solution. It saves bunch of time. Okay,
how long does it take for the rest of the
population to understand that this new solution is the better
way of doing things? This platform whatever is that you built,
all right? How fast those ideas travel will give you
an idea of how much capital you need to outlay,
how much needs to be spent into growing the platform,
how much needs to be spent in bringing on new
team members, what are you going to need. Roger's theorem
is important. It turns out it's applicable to not just
technology but ideas. It's a very good way to model
how fast ideas propagate through society. And the magic number
of the point of no return. I guess before the
curve becomes parabolic, before the system becomes nonlinear, I guess
is I may have to do some house cleaning. It's late.
I haven't eaten since yesterday, but I think it's like
thirteen percent, thirteen and a half something like that. And
I'm sure everybody listening, And do you think that thirteen
percent of the population knows what we know?
Speaker 1: I think it's got I think, especially over the last year,
if it's not thirteen it's damn fucking close.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would actually think it's more to be honest
with you, because Twitter is just whatever. Whatever the conversation
is on Twitter is the conversation in normally land six
months later. Okay, So hypothetically we're past thirteen percent. That
means the knowledge that we have the idea the way
we view the world is eventually right, not hypothetically, not possibly,
is going to be the idea that everyone has, the
thinking right, the realization right. So our worldview becoming the
dominant worldview is a FATA complete right. The idea is
out of the barn. It's coming. So that means, whether
it's a year, whether it's five years or ten years,
people are going to need men like you to be
men like we had a long time ago, right, Because
if the rest of the country is coming to where
we are, right, if we have a whole bunch of
people coming to a party at your house. They haven't
arrived yet. I think you probably should get dressed right,
have the table set, you know, get to looking like
the men of the house. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's uh, let's just end it right there.
Speaker 2: I think that's the spot.
Speaker 1: Yep, until next time. Yeah, until next time, man, thank
you very much. And yeah, hold on, don't go anywhere
because we're probably going to talk for another hour without
recording probably, thanks man. I want to welcome everyone back
to that. We don't even need to do introductions for
this guy. What's going on? Stormy? How are you doing?
Speaker 2: Have to go? And Pete happy to happy to be.
Speaker 1: Back, good man. Let's uh, I think this will finish
it talking about the the Robert Barons of old and uh,
I think this is the one everybody's waiting for. We're
going to start getting into the specifics of America first
and the real America first, and and what did people
actually believe back then? And we're not even talking about them,
we're talking about what are the common person the street believe.
So where do you want to start?
Speaker 2: Let's start with the America First Committee. The America First
Committee is a really really interesting thing because we talked
before on previous episodes about the American Liberty League and
the men that made that up, and those men didn't
go away. And you know, we discussed at the end
what it took to stop those men, because it really
was the most powerful men in the country trying to
frankly save the country. And to give you an idea,
at the time that the America First Committee was formed,
it really only had four policy planks. I'll get into
those in a second, but the overarching narrative was to
keep America out of any military intervention in Europe. Right
because there was no there was no military action happening
anywhere else in the world. The Pacific hadn't kicked off yet,
and it was announced on the day that lend Lease started.
Right because Roosevelt campaigned, just as Woodrow Wilson campaigned, and
these men, that fact was not lost on these men, right,
like you, campaigning on keeping us out of war means
nothing because less than twenty years ago, well within the
professional lifetimes of these men, right much how long does
no man usually have in a career, thirty years, So
most of these men were roughly in the same positions
as they were in World War One, and they remember
thirty years ago go with Drow Wilson campaigned on vehement
anti interventionism, and his literally his only campaign slogan was
Wilson kept us out of war. And one of the
most famous speeches that FDR gave on the campaign trail
was that he no American young man is going to
go off to some foreign land and die in some
foreign conflict. Right the only way that that would happen
is over his dead body. If only that were true,
because unbeknownst to most of America, but not unbeknownst to
people in elite circles in the hall of halls of power,
is that Roosevelt was not only planning on intervening in Europe,
but had been since the midway through his first administration.
So like the man, literally, I mean from the very beginning,
Woodrow Wilson was an idiot, right, Woodrow Wilson didn't run
Woodrow Wilson. Woodrow Wilson was a lot in his second term.
He was a lot like Joe Biden. And I mean, really,
we don't have TV cameras, but all right, we didn't
have TV cameras back then, but you can imagine.
Speaker 1: Known that his wife, his wife was was doing a
lot of the same things that Joe Biden's wife was doing,
and the Colonel House was just basically.
Speaker 2: Running the show. Who the Colonel's worked for.
Speaker 1: Work for the City of London, yes, or our brook
work for the City of London.
Speaker 2: So yes, correct, that's one hundred percent correct. Literally just
like we see today, it's it's no different. It's the
same interest groups doing the exact same things. I caught
your your interview with Tom Luongo last night, and I
agree with almost everything he says. He knows what he
knows about like the motivators in the financial world. What
he doesn't know is that is that they're roughly paralleled
or at least his views are paralleled in like the
private defense or private defense industries, and in we'll say,
like it's generally called risk capital, but it's not really
like I mean, VC is risk And yes we all
know now, I mean some of you guys that have
followed me on Twitter for a couple of years. I'm
suspended right now for being a bad boy. I got
a twelve hour this morning for something like I posted
like a week ago. Somebody was talking about like inheritance tax,
basically the persecutive inheritance tax that England is trying to
throw down on its farmers. Some communists was like, yeah, well,
my guy, this will increase production. You know, how can
you not think it's going to increase production, my guy?
And I guess it's something like, how about I gave
your head in with the rock? Will that increase production?
My guy?
Speaker 1: It seems it'll make the world a better place.
Speaker 2: Oh god, communist brain splattering. It definitely increases production, and
it sure as shit increases motivation, like it's a motivated workforce.
But it's the same people again for roughly the same
reasons what happened in nineteen The reason that we had
nineteen twenty nine is because in nineteen twenty nine, there's
for those that don't know, there was a cataclysmic financial crash,
right like massive that was global. It was the very
first global I can't call it market crash because it
was an entire economic crash. It wasn't just like the
stock market. It affected all aspects of socio political economy,
right like you know from it was Wall Street and
Main Street, and it went all the way around the
world really fast. Because at that point in time, the
reserve currency or the currency of trade was the pound sterling,
and in World War One, we lent our banks lent
the Brits a tremendous amount of money at the behest
and guarantee of Woodrow Wilson and his administration. Nobody. Everyone says,
like the bankers pushed them into some bankers, yes, but
US bankers not so much because at the time, like
Germany was kicking people's asses. So once the Rothchilds were
tapped out and they had to go to America for capital, like,
they're good and well getting their ass beat. So who
the fuck wants to lend to a like would you
lend a bunch of money to the Ukrainian government right now? No? Now,
not at all. The only way that like JP Morgan
is extending a huge line of credit is if you
know the goat, like the you know, pharmaceutically animated corpse
of Joe Biden, you know, holds a gun to his head.
That's the only way that's happening, because this is just
happening the other way. So obviously, the Brits did not
pull out of World War One, okay, and the reparations
money that they tried to get from from Germany couldn't
come in fast enough to cover the interest on all
the sovereign debt, and the pound blew up, and England defaulted,
and a lot of our banks defaulted because basically the
Brits just stipped everybody, and you had the Great Crash
of nineteen twenty nine, which basically ended the American Golden Age.
So it was actually the sins of World War One
coming home to roost that ended America's golden age. Everyone says, oh,
the stock market was just unrealistically high. It kept on
going up and up and up. Yeah, as Mark Andriesen
on Joe Rogan or any other one of his appearances
will tell you, like, yeah, innovation does that innovation creates
value out of nothing. Sorry, Libertarians and Austrians, right, like,
an economy is not a thing that lives in a vacuum,
and for it to exist in a vacuum, which it
does have to under the tenets of really either Kynesian
or Austrian economics. The only room inside this vacuum bubble
is for buyers and sellers making entirely rational decisions for
the purpose of getting a the highest price and be
the most value depending on what side of the transaction
you're on and these are the only people that are
allowed inside this vacuum, and that's not real. Do we
think that? What do you think, Pete? What would you
say influences oil markets today more the rational decisions of
buyers and sellers, right, going about price discovery in a market,
or the geostrategic needs of Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 1: Well, I would assume the geostrategic needs of Ladimir Putin.
But then you look at the price of oil in
the last six months to a year and you're like,
why is it stayed pegged somewhere?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the pegged? Right, that's that's that's a choice word
in the beginning of the Ukraine War. Enough take a tangent.
But for those of you that don't remember Janet Yellen, uh,
you know what I mean, like when on tour, like
you know, when they don't really let that troll on
TV much for good reason, for good reason. She is horrific.
She's a horrific human being. And that's just not that's
not because any ethnic animosity I may have, or my
preference to Anglo Saxon Ubermensch and old stock American Jerome Powell,
but just because she is very dumb. Her PhD thesis,
she's an academic and has never actually worked in the
real world, was on labor theory of economics. Labor theory
of economics is also known as literal Marxism, not like
the pretend Jamee loss Lindsay kind or the pretend Boomer conkind,
but actual kind. Her husband is the world's foremost Marxist economist.
If such a fucking ludicrous thing could exist out of Berkeley,
I believe for Stanford, I can't remember which, but she
tried to impose a eighty dollars oil price gap to
stick it to Putin and the Europeans like, yeah, it's
a good idea, We're going to do a price gap.
And then people in the market were like, this is
a terrible idea. This is really, really dumb. You should
never ever ever talk about this again and never talk
in public again, and just kind of disappeared. But yet
we have what is Russia. Russia's like, what eighteen percent
of global production? No, I think it's more than that,
about right, It's gotta be more than that oil. Yeah,
I'm thinking like oil and we have to include that gas, right,
But yeah, it's it's massive it's at least twenty percent
of the market percentage. Sorry guys talking on my keyboard.
Speaker 1: Wow, are you getting twelve twenty global oil?
Speaker 2: Yeah, twelve percent of global oil, twenty one percent of
global energy.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's incredible. Well that's another reason why the
United States can put a put sanctions on them, even
blow up their pipeline, and they're still fine. I mean
the Rubles, the Rubles crashing now, and people think that
that's like, oh, we're taking them out. How many times?
Is how many times we have crashes here? Come on,
stop it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the ruble crash, I mean, it was bound
to happen, just like you know, that's like everyone's like, oh,
bitcoin's crashing now as it goes from like one hundred
to ninety, Like they forget the up from eight thousand
part which was like five years ago. Yeah, but you know,
oil makes up forty five percent of the Russian Russian
federal budget, so oil reduced, so they thought that they could,
you know, do this, but so we're going to sanction
the largest oil one of the largest single oil producers
in the world and the largest single one of the
largest single preecers in the world is currently at war
with its neighbor, and the pipeline infrastructure runs through that neighbor,
but yet oil doesn't move. And then what happens next
is last year we have war in the Middle East,
where I don't know, I'd say fifty percent of global
energy comes from. So that's some total of what we're at,
seventy percent of global energy production in those two nations,
in those two areas.
Speaker 1: And only because we haven't opened it up here.
Speaker 2: Yes, but so seventy percent of the world's oil markets
technically on fire right and oil and they're and they're
blowing up pipelines and they are you know, downing oil
tankers with drones. So we haven't seen oil move past
seventy This defies all credibility Like this, Yeah, the oil
market is rigged, but rigging something is expensive. It's really expensive,
and it's a good microcosm for what like the one
thing like Luongo talks about with the euro dollar systems
is that he doesn't talk about what it does and
why it's so pernicious, which I think is very important.
So basically what the Europeans and this is why I'm
actually not upset that their pipeline up loaded up. Fuck them.
You don't get America paying for your entire national defense
and you go buy oil from someone else. Buying our
energy is the least they should be doing. I'm sorry,
euro Bros, but it's true, like you can't even contribute
two percent of your GDP, in fact, for the large
portion of the history, less than one percent. And at
the same time, you're basically expecting us to foot the
bill for the largest single line item budget item on
the federal government, and it should be the largest single
line item on any government. You expect us to pay
for that, and then you also want to just buy
oil from the person that we are paying to defend
you from. It wasn't for us, Russia could just take you.
It's I am. I know it's an unpopular take, but
when you put it next to the fact that, yes,
America blew up the pipeline, where the Brits actually blew
up the pipeline and America didn't really care that they
did because fuck them. So in the rare instance, I
kind of agree with James Joe Biden, Donald Trump, and
Victoria Newland, but yeah, America didn't blow up that pipeline. Sorry, bros.
I know there's tons of euro guys that'll tell you
about how it had to be America. And I'm sorry
for the tangent, Pete. But the very first person, yeah,
the very first person to announce the the detonation of
the nord Stream pipeline, who is he? It was on Twitter,
the Polish Secretary of Defense might He posted a picture
of the gas bubbling up from the AC floor and
it said thank you America. What a fucking odd thing
to say, right, I why would you say that? How
would you say that publicly? Like okay, let's say America
did do it, and a defense minister of a NATO
country takes to social media to rat out the United
States to the world. What did we do to Julie Massange?
What do we try to do to Snowden? And you're
gonna like fucking breathe oxygen in a sphere of US control,
Like you shouldn't be drawing breath. I mean that made
absolutely no sense to me, all right, Like nobody that
fucking airs out US secrets like that, especially secrets of
US misdeeds, will continue to draw breath. If the US
has anything to say about.
Speaker 1: It, Well, you know you can get away with doing stuff. Yeah,
you know, you can get away with doing stuff like
that if Joe Biden as president. It's the same way
you can get away with invading another country, you know,
basically knowing it's going to draw us into it, if
you know that the people there's no one in charge.
Speaker 2: Yes, possibly, Yeah, I can totally agree with that. I
could totally agree with that. But this Polish Defense Minister
is a very interesting human being, besides being married to
one an Apple Bam. I thought you'd like that he is.
And this will be breaking news on the Peak Quanona
Show because I don't think I've heard anybody else say this,
at least in our spheres. So this Polish Defense Minister
is a nobody, an absolute nobody. He's a poor, unimpressive,
unacademically gifted, collegial sports gifted human being, a really mediocre person.
But somehow this poor Polish nobody gets a full ride
to Oxford. Strange. It gets stranger while at Oxford. His
first year at Oxford, he gets invited to join the
Bullingdon Club. Do you know what the Bullingden Club.
Speaker 1: Is, Pete, No, that I do not know.
Speaker 2: The Bullingden Club is like Scull and bones if it
was somehow more secret and more exclusive. Because it is
both of those things. I believe it's five members a year,
so four years. At any moment time, there's twenty members,
and you have to be which we call it them.
Your invitation has to basically be like chaired by one
person or sponsored by one person, and then agreed on
by all every other member of every including not just
the freshman class but all the other members, but the
class of people, so that it'd be like those other
five guys. The other four guys are going to really
be the determining factor of you know who the next
person is going to be in their great year? Do
you know who that person was that that vouched and
sponsored him? Because it's and it's not something you can
apply for, it's something that you have to be just
picked right. One young Boris Johnson. H Who else was
in the Bollingdon Club, the freshman year Bolingdon Club, Well,
that would be one David Cameron, current Secretary of Defense
or whatever their equivalent of Secretary of Defenses. I can't remember.
There's one other one I can't remember. Some of their
famous politocrat in Britain was the third one, and Magic
Number four was Lord Natty Rothschild. Natty Rothschild owns that
other pipeline that went online the exact same day that
Nordstream blew up. Probably didn't nobody probably heard about it.
It's a big pipeline, but I mean the news kind
of gets drawn, you know, drowned out by you know,
a pipeline being exploded by a foreign actor, and it
kind of takes all the air out of the room.
But it runs from Norway to Poland. It's one of
the umbrella companies of the same group that does Genie Energy.
You may have heard of Genie Energy.
Speaker 1: I think we talked about Genie Energy. It's a roth
Child they there. I think their Golon Heights. I think
they they control the oil production and on the Golan Heights.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, they tried to also propose south stream. They
also have Dick Cheney on the board. Interesting and Donny
rum and the late great Donny Rumsfeld. Yeah, they were
a big deal in Iraq War days. But anyways, these
they were trying to do something called south Stream. So
basically the US didn't go into Iraq for oil, and
it didn't go to Iraq for Israel. It went to
Iraq for Israel and oil for Israel. There we go.
But all the all of the ship libs at the
time were correct. It was blood for oil, just not
oil for US. US net oil imports decreased after the
Iraq War. But a country that has no natural resources
of any kind outside of human capital, but that is arguable,
it is of arguable value, suddenly is the seventh largest
energy exporter. Israel doesn't have any natural gas or oil
under its ground. The Holy Land is not that holy
when it comes to energy independence. But Iraqi, Kurdistan right
next door does. And that's who Theddam was firing his
missiles at. Remember when we invaded Yep, he was supposedly
mad at the Katari's right or sorry the was it Qatar?
K kuwaitis? How come we didn't fire any of those
missiles scud missiles into Kuwait? Was it really Kuwait that
was stealing his oil? I don't know, but I know
after he was thrown out of power, the country that
he fired missiles at stole all his oil and now
exports it. They have a thriving energy industry now seventh
largest in the world. Amazing, completely non existent anyways, and
said back.
Speaker 1: We're we're gonna have to get back to the twenties
at some point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's that I'm back. America First Committee. So, speaking
of skull and bones, it was founded at Yale Law School.
One of the men that were was a part of it.
To just to get you an idea of who made
up these fine gentlemen. You had a young Gerald Ford
and a one Potter Steward, future Supreme Court judge, and
the main policy point was to keep America out of
war in Europe. The founding of the America First Committee
happened after the defeat largely on the continent of the
other European powers. Right, so the Battle of Britain England
getting its ass kicked in the air had already been
underway for two months at this point lend Lease had
just been announced and everybody started to see the setup.
Everybody tries to say that Charles Lindberg was a Nazi sympathizer.
I would say he's a Nazi respector only because of
having toured there and seen their capabilities, right as in
the same way I respect Russia. I don't love Russia.
I'm not sympathetic to RUSSI, but they have more nukes
than we do. And apparently, as of like last month,
they have new ways of delivering those missiles or sorry,
those warheads. So I respect their military capability. And that's
basically what Lindberg that was his opinion as well. But
what about Stormy? But what about the pictures, the pictures
of mister Charles Lindberg with Hermann Gurring and he was
awarded the what is it the iron Cross? I can't
remember the metal? Thomas seven seven seven somewhere is chimping
at me. I'm sorry, Thomas, keep going.
Speaker 1: I'll look it up.
Speaker 2: But why was he in there? Why was he in Germany?
Because he was living in Britain at the time after
his son was murdered viciously, his infant son was called
the crime of the century, all right, Well, was he
was in Germany at the behest of the State Department, sorry,
the war Department, and at the explicit invitation of the
US embassy in Germany for the purpose of gathering intelligence
on Reich airpower and aircraft production. Herman Gurin is an aviator.
Charles Lindberg was the most famous aviator in the entire
world times like one hundred. He was like Elvis people
got trampled when he landed in Paris, right there were
so many people rushing the airfield, which is a pretty
fucking wide open space, not exactly crowded, and twenty people
were still crushed to death there. It's estimated a really
good book to read if you can get your hands
on it. It is hard to find, but you know,
let me pull it up. It is written by the
the aide de camp of one of America's most famous ambassadors,
former Governor of Ohio, Myron t Herrick. The book is
titled Myron t Herrick, Friend of France and Auto Biographical
Biography and was written after his death. I mean, this
guy's uber famous at the time. The French actually put
him on their currency. I think it's like the five
franc piece I can't remember for many years, a whole
bunch of streets named after him, including the one that
the US embassy is on currently, and a bunch of
statues all over the place. Basically, he was the only
ambassador that didn't run away when the Germans in World
War One were literally miles outside of Paris. It looked
like everyone expected the Germans to be to capture Paris
within a month. I mean, the government had already made
plans to evacuate, and mister Herrick didn't feel like going anywhere.
So he got a bunch of howitzers and some gatling
guns and a hundred marines and turned the embassy into
a fortress and was like, fuck you, I'm not going anywhere.
And the French loved him for that. He won the
he was awarded the Legion of Honor whatever. He was
the guy that received Lindberg in the landing of the
super famous flight. So his account of what the public
he was also Lindbergh's. It was the first that those
two had met, and he would later Lindberg would become
the political protege of Myron. So if you want to
know about Myron, or so if you want to know
about Lindberg and his political worldview and where it came from,
Myron is probably the place to start. But yeah, this
was probably the biggest event to happen in Paris in
one hundred years, as far as like individuals coming to
see a specific event that wasn't you know, like beheading
or you know, something like that. It was the biggest
like public spectacle, and he was the most popular man
in the world. Charles Lenberg was so Herman. Gerring like
jumped out of his chair when the ambassador was like,
I think I could probably get mister Charles Lindberg to
come over, because at this point in time, you know,
the Germans were not doing so bad in the Battle
of Britain and generally on the continent were viewed as unstoppable.
So a very famous German fighter pilot gets a chance
to show off all his new toys and the military
might of a now strong Germany to the most famous
pilot in the world. Of course, absolutely right, So what
if the war department, you know, who cares if the
Americans learn how strong we are or see how many
planes we crank out? I get to hang out with like.
I don't know if he was Gurring's idol, but the
excitement like Gurring like it took him home, like showed
him his house. He was super. The pictures of Gurring
and Lindberg are very, very funny as far as like
how excited and kid in the candy store Gerring looks.
It's it's pretty, it's pretty awesome. But he was awarded.
Uh what's you call? What's the did you find the
name of that that medal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the Service Cross of the German Eagle.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah. Nobody, including Lindbergh and everybody else at that dinner,
was expecting to get an award. Gurring kind of surprised everybody,
and of course a bunch of pictures were taken and
a very hostile press took this. And I believe because
his associations and his intimacies with Henry Ford Edison and
Myron Myron Herrick. Myron Herrick is also a besides the
governor of Ohio, he was a big wig in Republican
Party politics and is the primary reason what is it
Calvin Coolidge was that I'm trying to think. I think
it was Calvin Coolidge. I think belaef I'm blanking on this,
but was a big reason that the Republicans had won
the White House prior to FDR. No Herbert Hoover, there
we go. Fuck Jesus. Also the same man who gave
FDR his start in politics and recounted often how it
was the greatest mistake of his life. But he made
the deal, which you'll find in that book, to give
a position to a young Francis Dilano. Roosevelt at the
was it the under secretary of the Navy. It wasn't
secretary of the Navy. He was the guy right below it,
second in charge of the Navy at the time of
World War One, And in his memoirs he says specifically
he made he was forced to make the deal, all right,
to get Herbert Hoover in right at the caveat of
appointing out Dr who a vehement Democrat at that point
and an insane appointment for Republican administration to make. But
he said that was the deal that he had to
make with mister Bernard Baruk, he says, He says, the
I can't remember what he what, what words he used,
but a lot of derogatory words we probably shouldn't shouldn't
say on YouTube if this is gone on YouTube. But anyways,
mister Myron was not a fan. But basically he Lindberg's
associations had raised a lot of eyebrows of a certain group.
And when that photo with Gurring was taken the very
next week, it was on the front page of the
New York Times calling him a Nazi sympathizer, right saying
he was going there because he loved the Nazis. So much,
and that is the narrative to this day in the
entire time he was asked to go there by his country.
He would later go on to serve his country several
more times, except under far riskier circumstances. Also, while a
majority of the country's media was decrying him as a
traitor and a Nazi, neither of those allegations the fact
that they were coming from the halls of power and
literally out of the mouth of the President of the
United States of America. I was thinking of this the
other day, right if Joe Biden made a point to
where he was every time he got on the radio
or the television, I was talking about, how much of
a trader in a scumbag Stormy Waters is if all
the newspapers in America were calling me a trader in
a scumbag, and this idiot president decides to stumble us
into on purpose or in ignorance, stumble us into war
with Russia, a war that was easily avoidable, and a
war that eighty percent of the country by far more now,
but let's just say eighty percent of the country, because
that number is going to come back in a little bit.
Eighty percent of the country oppose. Right, So a war
that the American people don't want, and a war that
was a war of choice for a small, privileged, powerful
group of people in the American government, the deep state,
whatever you want, whatever term you want to use, or
through whatever lens you want to use. Right, it is
undeniable that the conflict we find ourselves in with the
ancient Russian people and the country that is over a
thousand years old is won entirely by choice, and a
choice that was not made by the people that would
end up fighting it. But let's just say that happened,
and Joe Biden at the same time telling America and
all the newspapers telling America that Stormy Waters is a traitor?
Would I have the the commitment to my nation and
what detonation is currently and what it once was. If
I would have the deace and calmness of soul two
basically not be moved by any of any of the
negative comments being made the president or the media. And
I would serve my country in a war that I hated,
an a war that I didn't support, in an a
war that most of America didn't support, including the men
fighting it. Would I have the courage and temerity to
do that. I don't know if I would, but he did.
And that's the type of American you're taught to hate.
Just typing Charles Lindberg into YouTube or into your podcatcher
of choice, and you will see hundreds, literally hundreds of
resentful little people that have never sacrificed anything in their life,
no hardship, suffered, none telling us how much of a Nazi,
how much of an anti Semite, how much of a
horrible person this man is. And what's even funnier is
that his service was secret, right, as in, he would
get no credit. No newspaper would ever report that Charles
Lindberg is in fact not a trader, and in fact
fighting for America in a warplane as we speak. He's
in fact not a trader. Nobody was ever going to
know that, and he knew that at the time. So
it's not like he was doing it to try and
get out of the allegations of being called the trader.
He was doing it again, here's that word that we
don't see anymore. He was doing it because he felt
the sense of duty. His nation was at war, so
therefore he was going to fight its enemies. Whether he
got credit for it or not, no matter what the
media said about him, no matter what the fucking present
of the United States in the White House at the
time said about him. So it was published twenty five
years after he left, or basically after the war was over,
because that's about the amount of time that he could
get in trouble for releasing classified information, which you know
at the time that he was doing it his combat
missions into Japan, and we don't know, but there is
a lot of suspicion that he took part in the
Doolittle raids. But what we do know is that this
man flew one hundred and eighty six combat hours in
the Pacific. That is about three times as much as
a typical combat airman would see over their tour of duty.
And nobody was going to know about it. Nobody was
going to he was He wasn't going to come home
and no longer be called a trader. He was going
to come home and still be called the trader, and
no one would know what he did or that he
in fact wasn't a trader. It was illegal against the
law for him to tell anybody what he did, and
he still did it. And I don't know when I
think about that feat, I don't know if I would
be that brave. I don't know about you.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a difficult choice to make, especially when
you when you look at the way they they treat
people and the way they hound people. And even back then,
I mean McCarthy, McCarthy was already a drunk, you know
when all the hearings started and everything. But you know,
what they did to him just drove them to drove
it and drove them to drink that much more, you know.
So it's not you know, people have a tendency to
believe because we're in this information age and things can
get out over the internet and a split second that
you know, back then it would be harder to slender someone. Well,
not when everybody's reading the newspaper, and not when the
newspapers are you know, all printing the same thing and
they're controlled and they're being told what's what's a print? Yeah. Yeah,
they drove people. They they drove people to become pariahs.
Is just as much as they do it.
Speaker 2: Nowadays, even more so because at least on the Internet
you can post and you could say no, this is
not true. At least, yeah, attacking.
Speaker 1: But we also had more We also had a more
moral society back then, so people leapt to their morality
a lot quicker, and they took their morality a lot
more seriously. So if they thought somebody was treeson us
or something like that, that meant something to them. It's
not thrown around, you know like we like most people
do today.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean Tucker Carlson has called the trader,
I mean Donald We thought the President of the United
States was a trader and an active Russian spot. I mean, like,
they just throw these words around like they don't mean anything,
But back then you were one hundred percent right. These
words meant things, which makes them all that more pernicious
about how they were being thrown around because the progressive
I hate to even call it the fucking New Deal, right,
or the New Deal regime, the New Deal administration, right,
because that's not what the men at the time fighting
what FDR was doing to the country thought. And the
last episode I did with you, Pete, we read some
of the speeches that were given by the head of
the Democratic Party and former presidential candidate Al Smith and
what he thought the New Deal was and he had
just gotten FDR elected, so it obviously wasn't going Basically
what he was told was going to happen in the
FDR administration did not happen if something else happened instead.
So like, I hate to even call it the New
Deal regime, because the men at the time saw it
as communism being driven by a foreign group of people,
both within and without and from without. So right, the
entire New Deal regime came kind of crashing down on
the on him and pretty much all of the other
men that stood up to it. And now, like, none
of the hell that we live in today would be
possible if it wasn't for this, And you could say, like,
oh yeah, you know, there were still subversives, and you know,
oh yeah, this group has been in here doing all
this other bad stuff for a very long time. Look
at the Schofield Bible, but nothing nothing like the fucking
New Deal. It's fundamental. It was a It was a
revolution no different than seventeen seventy six, as it fundamentally
changed the governance structure and the relationship the dialogue between
American citizen and his government forever. And I had to
bring up mark and trees and again, but he's a
really smart guy. I respect that guy a lot. But
I don't think anybody, even in our spheres that know
how pernicious the regime has I don't think. I think
what he said on that Joe Rogan interview came as
a surprise to most people. It came as a surprise
to me. And I fucking think about this shit every day.
I'm pretty smart. Like the level of persecution at like
a granular level was just shocking to me. And like
the the fact that like Elizabeth Warren has her own
attack agency that not only isn't in the constitution anywhere,
but isn't accountable to anybody because she's a senator, she
has no authority to have an agency, but she does so.
Like the agency isn't supposed to exist. You can't sue it,
and you certainly can't stop it. You can't like call
up a number and talk to a manager that like
there's no you're just being it may as well being
It may as well be persecution from a demonic entity. Right.
It's just you know, this persecution that is happening everywhere,
all at once, and you can't figure out where it's
coming from. There's no way to put your finger on
it to get a hold of what's you know, what's
afflicting you. There's no you know, command structure that you
can air your grievances with. It's just insane. And all
this came from the New Deal. And I don't think he,
I don't think we. I think we've become a little
bit hyper focused on a specific, a specific aspect of
the regime and we kind of miss we sometimes missed
the meta you know of it all right, like the
thing in its entirety. But anyways, if it wasn't if
it was anybody else besides Charles Lindberg, I think they
would have been sunk because his popularity, like I said,
was hard to describe or hard to contextualize in modern
times anyways, because like, yeah, there's famous people, but there's
also so many famous people and people that are famous
in all these different ways, and there's all these really
like different niches. But like Pete to what you were
talking about, about, how there really was only newspaper and
radio and if you controlled those things, you literally controlled
the entire public dialogue. Right. No one was you know,
getting finding new bands on SoundCloud, right, the only music
you were exposed to. Was the music that was shown
to you. The only news that you were exposed to,
your whole conceptual your whole conceptual reality, all right, and
this is this is public consensus. Reality was dictated through
two business verticals, radio and print media. That's it. You
had total paradigm control, at least they thought. So. You know,
when someone becomes very well known like in those days,
like it was kind of similar in the sixties kind of,
but there was no like thriving subcultures or anything like that.
So if you think of how popular the Beatles were,
Charles Lindberg was more popular.
Speaker 1: I think I think I have a better maybe a
stronger astronauts. Oh yes, like like Neil Armstrong, yeah, yes,
as Aldrin, yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah. These So these were celebrities and
national heroes at the same time as well as international
sensations like and being an astronaut was like quite literally
like being in the Beatles, like you were that like
you were getting pussy that easy. And if the if
the Astronauts happened to have, you know, been on stage
a lot, which they luckily they hadn't, I'm sure panties
would have been thrown at them as well. But yeah,
so luckily Charles Lindberg was popular. He had a voice,
and he could he had really good advisors. So the
way he spoke was very much the way Donald Trump speaks. Also,
in that book by by Ambassador mister Myron, he talks
about like he heard Charles's speech and was like it
was so natural that it was. It was like he
was just he was basically just saying the whatever was
on his mind, like as it came into his mind,
like very very much like Donald Trump, and Myron like
recounts how he's like to the average you know, uninitiated observer,
what he's doing looks very very easy. But to an
experience public speaker or rhetorician, like he was like a prodigy.
It was Charles Limberg like you know, it wasn't taking
like public speaking class, like he just was a fucking natural,
very much like Trump is. And he spoke in a
I urge everyone to listen to I know, kind of
like the Hitler a eye translation. Speeches are going viral,
which is great. I think that's awesome because if everybody,
if anybody, still thinks that national socialism was about, you know,
just hating Jews or you know, global conquest or any
of the you know, American secular state religion belief structures.
The second you hear you know, Adolf Hitler speaking and
what he's speaking about, all that goes away immediately, Like
if you replace the word Germany, that could have been
any America, Like that could have come out of Donald
Trump's mouth. Well, not so much Donald Trump, because he
he seems to like or be comfortable with our media environment, right,
probably because he's so good at playing them for fools,
Like he literally fucking lives not just lives in their
head rent free, like he owns them, right, They're they're
so reactive to him. He basically puppeteers them. But outside
of outside of that, all of the other aspects of
the NSDAPS, Yeah, policy positions, it's I think it's it's
twenty planks. You would want any US politician to be
saying the exact same thing, and you're like, oh, maybe
this was about something different. I urge everyone to look
up the uh it's called the des Moines, Iowa speech,
so Charles Lindberg on September the eleventh, nineteen forty one
in des Moines, Iowa. Is a speech I'm gonna I forgot.
I can't because I'm I'm in the time out box.
I would post it to Twitter, but when I'm allowed
back on Twitter, i will. I will do that. Or
anybody that's listening, any of the early listeners, thank you
for you know, supporting one of the best guys in
our sphere with your money. Like the thing that matter
is mister Pequinonas. But yeah, if you get access to
this early and you know it comes out quickly, just
just start dropping that speech on your timeline. People need
to hear it. It's that good, it really is. And
that'll give you a really good idea about what America
First was about. And I'll leave some stuff out so
the man himself can tell you because I think it'll
be better that way. But what he did say what
caused outright insanity And if the press hated him before,
but again, so we say the press hated him and
FDR hated him were vehemently denouncing him. It was very
much like a Donald Trump phenomena where all of the
consensus media and consensus policy you know people and the
you know important people all one hundred percent agree that
Donald Trump is the worst. And then you know, the
vast majority of the country is like, yeah, we don't
give a shit. We think he's great. Eighty percent of
America supported America first, it's policy positions of non interventionism, right,
So eighty percent of the country was against any type
of military involvement, whether it be logistical support, arms support,
and most of all, you know, troops on the ground.
Eighty percent of the country was isolationists. They say isolations
like it's a bad thing, like these bad isolationists. Yeah. Sorry,
Access to my nation's wealth isn't a fucking human right.
Access to my prosperity and the most valuable things in
my nation, which are farmers boys in Iowa, bricklayers kids
in New England, right, and farmers sons in the sun
and some electricians kid on the West Coast. That's America's
most valuable resource, and access to it is not a
human right. Isolationism is probably the most noble thing that
we can do, because, frankly, no other nation has the
right to American blood. I don't care if your nation
has a right to exist or whatever. I don't care.
You're not my people. I don't give a shit about you.
Speaker 1: It also, it also shows respect for other people's cultures.
We're not going to fuck with you. Yes, you get
to have, you get to have your culture, You get
to have whatever you have. Don't fuck with us. You know,
if you want to, if there's something you want to trade,
we'll have a talk. If not, you know, God bless,
don't fuck with us. Yeah, but if you But apparently,
if they move here illegally, and then they subvert the nation,
they subvert the culture, they subvert the government, they subvert everything,
well that's okay.
Speaker 2: And they don't fight.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Nine of combat arms just happens to be one ethnic demographic.
Ninety six percent of combat arms moss or sorry, ninety
like that. And the special forces, I think it's eighty
high eighties. In the regular the broader, Marine Corps and Army,
it's white boys. It's white American boys. That's who does
the fighting. So I don't care how smart your Indian
friend is. I don't care how nice your Venezuelan housekeeper is.
I don't give a fuck. I don't care if they
came here legally. I don't care if they flew here
on wings they grew on their backs. Don't fucking care
because they don't fight, and who fights, well, patriots fight,
So I guess they didn't assimilate, did they. I guess
they really don't share our values, do they? Because they
don't fight. They won't fight for those values, so therefore
they don't have them. Because you only believe something if
you're willing to die for it. Anything else is a
fucking hobby. And these people don't fight, so they don't believe,
so they don't share your values. They don't share your
belief is the Vectraamaswami. Is he gonna is he gonna
pick up a gun? Is he gonna go fight? I
don't think he is? Is What was that Chinese motherfucker
Alex Wang? Was it? Wang was running for office? Is
he gonna pick up a gun? Is he gonna fight? No,
he's not, because he doesn't believe. And nobody has the
right to have young Iowa farm boys trying to stuff
their guts back in their stomachs as they scream.
Speaker 1: Because a certain group in nineteen thirty three decided that
they were They didn't even have a country, and they
decided that they were going to declare war upon a nation.
And a nation is not a country. A nation is
a people.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a race. Culture is ethnic, culture is genetic.
Culture is racial. So they didn't have enough men to fight,
So how are they going to fight this war that
they just declared. They're not exactly a fighting people, as
mister Nettan Yahoo is finding out right now because he
can't get a certain subset of those people to fight,
they refuse to much.
Speaker 1: They're such a non fighting people. They're such a people
that doesn't fight that in their own country. They have
to have mandatory yeah, draft, because no one will join.
Speaker 2: You can tell who's who believes something by who is
willing to die for it. And October eighth of twenty
twenty three, was it one fifth? One fourth of that
population went to the airport on one way flight. So
whose land is it?
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny when I when I moved to
after high school, when I moved down to South Florida,
it was described to me. They were like, you know,
it's the one thing about South Florida is you know,
you're going to find out that it's very transient. I
didn't really understand what that meant. Yes, you're I didn't
understand what that meant until years later, when you know,
when I learned other terms like rootless.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and cosmopolitans at literally everyone from Florida's from somewhere else,
particularly South Florida. South Florida's like this, and really anything
south of Palm Beach is you know, West tel Aviv
or North Cuba or North Haiti or North Puerto Rico
or or or or western Russia or now western Ukraine.
The South Florida is a fucking mess. I can't wait
to get out of here. Luckily, I live in the
last bastion of you know, wasp culture and wasp demographics.
But I'm sure that's about to change sooner or later.
The population of Florida has tripled since COVID. It just
it doesn't agree with my cultural soul. Florida is an
ugly place. It really is. I don't fucking like the beach, Okay,
so what else is there to look at? Nothing? It's
flat and it's either.
Speaker 1: Swarm South, yeah, the true South, the Midwest where people
actually put down roots. That's that's what America.
Speaker 2: Was, funny. That's the only place where men that fight
come from, m men that are going to be torn
apart by sharks in the middle of the Pacific slowly
bleeding out on a beach that they can't pronounce in Europe. Right,
that's where those men come from, and those are the
only men. I find it very interesting that make up
our sphere, not too you know, fire shots or whatever.
I'm not going to I am a New Englander. That's
where I was born and raised and my family has
been since the sixteen forties. But when it comes to
like people in our thing, I find like the people
from New York, no offense, that still live there, that
choose to live there in the city, are all just
wearing our thing around like a skin suit, like a
Fendi handbag or you know some Louisveiton Duffel bag where
you know now name a shoe. It's a fashion accessory.
It's the edgy, transgressive thing, right, It's fun to talk
about doing a racism and they don't believe any of
the things. So few of them. I've met a precious
few from New York City that believe what I believe,
did the degree that I believe, with the acceptance of
the possibilities and externalities that could one day show up
at my door for believing what I believe. There are
a few, and I love them very much, but for
the most part, same thing with LA It's just a
fashion accessory. They like to say, the transgressive thing. They
like to be seen as transgressive. But that's it. There'll
never be anything more than that. That's why you gotta both,
you know, be a right wing edge lord. But at
the same time, don't let anybody say anything mean to
our trans friends or anyways. I just find it so
hilarious that they somehow believe that they take that this
is their thing and we're along for the ride. But
nothing could be further from the truth. I find it offensive,
like to the highest degree. Like it. It's the insolence
that gets me. But the men that like those, they're
no different than the people that had added to the
international terminal at Bengurion Airport October eighth, Right, because if
you ever make a move to actualize any of your beliefs,
it'll be people like that that stop you. It'll be
people like that that stab you in the back, because
if you ever seek to make it a real world reality,
it's no longer fun, it's no longer transgressive, it's no
longer pretend you're ruining it is what you're doing right
by making any steps towards actualizing any of the things
that we believe that they say they believe. But it
seems that when we make moves towards bringing or convictions
into or concrete reality, they screech and holler like I
am tearing up that Fendi handbag or I am pouring
bleach over that Chanelle sweater or whatever, because I'm ruining
their fancy fashion accessory. They wear our heritage and our
identity like it is a fancy dress. And I say
dress because turns out most of you fucking faggots like
to wear them, or like boys that wear them. Nothing
right wing about you. You don't believe anything. It certainly
wouldn't die for anything, not like those men in the
Spanish Civil War died, Not like those men in the
Battle of Berlin did. Both of them knew their situation
was hopeless. In the Battle of Berlin, not only their situation,
but their cause and their nation was lost, and they
still fought. And you guys couldvetch whenever we actualize any
right wing beliefs outside of the precious few. But I
think we have a problem of people wearing our beliefs
as fashion accessories. And I think that's something that we're
teething we're dealing with right now. I think it's a
teething pain that we're going to have to go through.
Speaker 1: You know, you really can see, like you mentioned the
Spanish Civil War and you also mentioned.
Speaker 2: It almost brought me to tears when you're reading it, Pete.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well brought me to tears every time I read that.
The the when you look at how the Nationalists handled
the Spanish Civil War, so they had it in they
I mean it wasn't it wasn't even like they had
foreign invaders. I mean they technically, but it was a
government they had they had elected, a government was elected
that decided that that they were going to this came
out later kill half the country, that they were going
to kill half the people in the country, because.
Speaker 2: I never realized that. I'd never known that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, their goal was to kill fifty percent of the
Catholics in the country. So what they When you look
at that and you know, and you know that the
only people that fled north to France were the infirmed
and the old getting out of the way of war,
and that they stayed there and fought, it really goes
to show that when you look at Israel and you
just have people hopping over this fence and killing a
bunch of people and taking it and taking some hostages
and then running back, and millions of people decide they're
going to go home. Israel's not a country. Israel's not
a people. It's not an Yeah, it's a place where
people go to have extended vacations to be around their own,
which you're not allowed to do pretty much anywhere in
the West because of a certain group telling you you're
a fascist if you do that. Yeah, they don't have
When you compare that to when you compare the Spanish
and you compare them, there's no there's no question who
the better people are, who the better breeding is, who
the better bloodline is. There's some people who are going
to stay and they're going to fight for their own
not run because they have no because they have no home.
No matter what they say about Israel, as soon as
something goes as soon as something goes wrong, they no
longer have a home. They go to their other home
or they're you know, wherever that may be. Yeah, these
aren't a These aren't a people to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, idolized.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people who idolize them. Oh,
I wish we go our own ethnic state, and we
wish we could have our own ethnic state. And it's
like yeah, yeah, when when a couple yeah, when a
couple of people get killed, you know when when a
couple of people get killed, what happens. Oh, we're gonna
we're running home. We're gonna run to Europe, We're gonna
run to the United States.
Speaker 2: Okay, the army should have been overflowing. Then the very
next day, the army should have been overflowing, right, just
as every single recruiting station in the country was the
day after nine to eleven.
Speaker 1: The only people in that the only people in that
country who actually give a ship and are willing to
die and willing to kill are the settlers. That's it.
They're the ones who are like, we took this. Fuck you,
we took it. No matter what you think of that,
we took this. Fuck you. Unleash us, let us go,
let us go kill, let us go kill Palestinians, let
us go kill the enemy.
Speaker 2: Yes there, I actually respect them. Yeah, hi, understand why
they don't want to fight in the IDEF. I don't
fucking blame them, right, You got these like if you're
on the if you're on the kibbutz like you're fucking
you're the closest that one of a cosmopolitan people that
have had no roots could be to one of those
Iowa farm boys, right, or one of those Appalachian coal
miners kids. Right. You're doing work.
Speaker 1: They actually what they're doing.
Speaker 2: Yes, And you're working the land. That's what you're doing.
And a certain type of consciousness comes over you. I
know this because you know, taken to growing food and
a certain amount of peace comes over you tending the
soil like it really does. It clarifies your mind. I
wish all of our.
Speaker 1: Lads were in the backyard today getting things prepared for
the winner.
Speaker 2: Yep. In tune. It makes you in tune with the seasons.
It makes you in tune with your surroundings, and you
bond with the land that it is a dialogue and
no one can tell me different. So those people on
those cobuses, their connection to the land is now a
spiritual one. And it seems that that that's funny because
they're willing to die for it, and they also won't
fight with the people that have to be forced to
fight the conscripts. The draftees like I actually respect that
they won't join the idea that is the negative.
Speaker 1: Why would true believers want to fight fight besides trans
people and other things, yeah yeah, homosexuals and I mean sorry,
but women.
Speaker 2: Yeah when when they when they occupied that church in
Lebanon the other day and uh, the one own that
they could think of on the Christians own and desecrate
the church was to have a mock gay wedding except
for surprise, the bride or sorry the groom and the
groom you know, made out at the end of the ceremony.
Super tough guys, Like again, I don't think that's the
own you think it is?
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's let's get let's come back.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah see. Uh Pete knows how to
get the get the most out of me because I
do have to be kept on topic, especially like that.
But uh so the the guys that briefly we'll talk
about who else before we get into Charles Limberg's fight
with FDR, which basically it became because being as popular
as he was, any radio station would fall all over
itself to get Charles Lindberg on the air. Advertisers, would
you know, pay insane multiples on what they were normally
paying to be either before or after Charles' a Charles
Lindberg speech, right, And it got to a point where
the president's fireside chats, President Roosevelt's fireside chats as painful
as they are to listen to, I urge you to
start seeking out Charles Lindberg's radio appearances or I guess
you can call them like addresses, right, and then find
the FDR fireside chats, either immediately after or immediately before,
because these men were addressing the nation ostensibly, but they
were having a debate like tit for tat, right. I mean,
it was literally like they were on the debate stage
going at it if you listen to them in order,
and it was a debate that FDR was losing and
Charles was winning. And after the des Moines Iowa speech
nineteen forty one when he said FDR, the British race
and the Jewish race were pushing the country into war,
that settled it. Seventy percent of the country at the time.
It's not my these are here. Why did the poll?
This poll was was it page eighteen? This one? Yeah?
Gallop Gallop nineteen thirty eight and then Gallup nineteen thirty nine,
nineteen forty. Yeah, most of these are going to be
Gallop poles. And there's the Opor surveys, which I think
the organizations now defunct. But sixty eight percent of the
population of America said that the Jewish race had too
much control over the FDR administration. So it wasn't just him.
In fact, Pete, I sent you a book the other day.
Speaker 1: What was it called FDR and the Jews?
Speaker 2: Why I did remember? It was literally no, I thought
it was yeah, okay, And I remember like the I
remember reading a couple paragraphs I read, like the forward
in the in the introductory chapters of the book, And
basically the purpose of the book was because it's one
of those great things where they do like the actually
it is happening or sorry it's it's actually happening, but
also it's actually a good thing, not a bad thing.
That you know, the the left so famously does so
FDR in modern times, you know, in the in the
late nineties two thousands, right around like the ken Burns,
the Suspicious History documentaries, I started hitting the air. FDR's
memory was starting to get a lot to flack because
he turned down or he rejected that boat full of
Jewish immigrats that were fleeing manual labor in Germany, and hey, man,
like you know, Africans, I believe or what like lactose intolerant,
some people are, some races are labor intolerant. But he rejected.
He basically turned away the ship, right, and that kind
of came back into public consciousness and basically like there
was this, you know, narrative going around that it's probably
from some probably from some idiot conservatives. Actually, I guarantee
you it was probably idiot conservatives saying like, you know, oh,
FDR don't you know love the Semites like I do.
In fact, FDR and the Progressives were anti Semites and
that's why they turned away.
Speaker 1: These always always attacking the left as the oh they're
the real racist or they're the real anti Semites, and yeah,
it's like, okay.
Speaker 2: It's like that Antioch declaration I was listening to. I
don't know what the ANTIOC declaration is. I saw cryptos
post about it. Everyone should follow Cryptos one of the
best accounts. I saw his post about it, but I
was listening and I still didn't really understand what it
was or basically on like whose authority it was issued?
And then I was listening to probably the angriest I've
ever or McIntyre just I guess just dropped the stream
about about this and about how to handle in uh,
you know, disagreements and in fighting inside your cultural political movement.
It was a really good talk, very angry, which is
interesting and refreshing to hear. I think Aaron should get
more angry. Aaron, if you're listening, I need to lean
into that. It's it's good, not like being angry, it's good.
Being angry is not good. No emotion is good in
and of itself. But hearing him deliver, you know, points
like that with with some anger and hostility in his voice,
it makes Aaron hit much different and in a very
positive way. So Aaron angrier and preferably right before your streams.
But yeah, it was It's like what conservatives do, man,
They go run to the left to try and cancel
you know guys they don't like on the right, and
they anyways, but yeah, so this book came out to
try and like it was basically like no, no, no.
In fact, the Jewish people in the FDR administration was
actually their relationship was so close in fact, that the
public started, you know, asking a lot of questions and
getting very concerned, and with the his third election right
around the corner, it basically became politically untenable for him
to accept them because of all the other good things
that he had done for the Jewish people in his
administration thus far, so surprise, FDR not an anti Semite
at all, but was so philo Semitic in fact that
it became politically toxic, and if he had done any
more of it, the toxicity would have been fatal to
his third presidential aspirations. So that's why. And the book
that they that I encourage everyone to read it. I've
only just started. But if it if it keeps on
hitting like the injured, like the intro chapters, I think
it's going to be a really interesting book. But yeah,
seventy percent of the country sought it the way that
Lindberg did. That these were the three interest groups right
when I think he says the FDR administration and FDR personally,
he was saying FDR personally, But the guys that were
backing him, backing the America First Committee, these were the
same guys as the American Liberty League. If you remember
my talk about the American Liberty League in the last
episode it with Pete, you'll get an idea who he's
talking about when he says, like the FDR regime as
its own separate interest groups because at least from the
men that were in power in industrial, financial, social capital,
like that type of power, even though they weren't you
in the government, because the Progressives, I'm sorry, the New Dealers,
these men saw it as a political regime that was
being puppeteered by Bolshevik Russia, and there was a lot
of good evidence for it. A lot of that evidence
would be confirmed by what it's called the Venona cables.
Turns out like they had some the Russians had some
pretty good encryption tech at the time and their ciphers.
It took like computing power of like the early two
thousands to come around before we had the ability to
bust it open. So I think the nsay cracked Venona,
or at least released announced that they cracked it and
released it, I believe, in the early two thousands. But surprise,
McCarthy was right. And not only was he right, all
of these guys at the time of FDR were right
and were more right than they even thought they were right.
Like our first lady was literally a CPUSA member, what
the fuck like Barack Obama isn't a Marxist, Joe Biden,
Kamala Harris isn't a Marxist. But the FDR regime was,
the New Deal regime was at least most of the
people in prominent positions within the administration were, and they
wanted the US in World War two real bad, because
who is the other group of people that were withering
against the onslaught brought on by the Wehrmacht or the Luftwaffa.
Wasn't just the British, It wasn't just the Jews. It
was the Soviets, and the Soviets unlike the British their
lend lease. I heard you bring up the other day, Pete,
And I don't think that a lot of people know
it is that at the time of the US entry
into World War Two, most of our arms manufacturing weren't manufacturing,
weren't set up for from the very beginning. We're not
set up for and we're not at the time making
American calibers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you what I think the main character
the caliber they were manufacturing was seven sixty two by
fifty four four? Yeah, what's that? What's that for? That's
most in the gaunt Yeah, other Russian whatever? That dumb rifles?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is it? The the DPM Is that the
one with the plate on top of it? It looks
like a dinner plate or record on top of it.
Speaker 1: I can't remember.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the precursor to the RPD. Yeah. Wait
is the RPD the fat ak forty seven? Now what's
the what's the seven sixty two y thirty nine belt fed?
That's my favorite. I'm not a PKM respector I think
it's the RPD.
Speaker 1: I think it's the DPM. Yeah, the yeah, the DPM,
mischie was the seven sixty two let me.
Speaker 2: See thirty nine? Or it was was the DPM.
Speaker 1: The No. Fifty four are okay?
Speaker 2: And that's the one with the weird disc magazine yep.
Speaker 1: And if you got to Battlefield Vegas you can rent
one and shoot it.
Speaker 2: Oh Man and FDR you know fed the magazines. That's great. Hooray.
It makes me fucking sick. The backers of the America
First Committee were equally as interesting, so they were all
the men that I had previously talked about with the
American Liberty League. Right, but give an idea of this organization.
It was the largest organization political or otherwise in the country.
It had eight hundred thousand paid members paid. Think about that,
Like even today, do you think you know Act Blue
or DSA or do you think any Democrat, let alone
Republican Republican be laughable, but do you think any political
action group in the US has eight hundred thousand paid
members paid? Isn't like they received a check?
Speaker 1: Well, you don't need that anymore because you have so
many big gigant you know, billionaires willing to fund you that. Yeah,
you don't need that.
Speaker 2: Well you gotta hire. I mean, these are people collecting
checks not submitting them. Oh wow, yeah, insane. Well, they
also like like it was also like a union. Their
members also did pay, you know, did contribute, but they
don't actually know how many members. Even the president of
the American First Committee even said, like, I have no
idea how many actual members we have. There was and
what was the population? What was the population in nineteen
forty You have a much less loud keyboard as I do.
I won'st subject the listeners to.
Speaker 1: That population, USA was a population one hundred and thirty
two million.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, there was over a quarter of a million
America First Committee members in just Chicago. That's huge. Again,
eighty percent of the population not only agreed with the
tenets of the America First Committee, but I would probably
say a majority of that eighty percent back to the
organization themselves. So what he went to checks.
Speaker 1: You want to know what's really interesting about that? So
those numbers that he's quoting, Yeah, I'm almost one hundred
percent positive he got those from a book called Hitler
and Los Angeles, How Jews Foiled Nazi Plots against Hollywood
and in there, which was written by Stephen J. Ross.
In there, they they actually post these these surveys from
the thirties asking people, you know, do you trust Jews?
Do you usually they? Yeah, they they I think it
was the American Jewish Committee at the time that was
doing those, if I remember the book correctly. But yeah,
those are those had been long for those numbers have
been long forgotten until they decided to write this book
to brag about how they foiled all these Nazi plots
against what do.
Speaker 2: You remember what it said, the percentage of the US
population that trusted Jews.
Speaker 1: It was between it was between seventy and eighty who the.
Speaker 2: Trusted, trusted or distrusted, don't think either.
Speaker 1: Or well, well trusted was between seventy and eighty percent.
Speaker 2: That makes about and.
Speaker 1: You can even and I'm on Amazon right now and
like even one of the one of the reviewers says,
what is it. I found this book well written and fascinating.
I was somewhat amazed at the strong sense of anti
semitism and isolationism that existed in some of the more
progressive areas of America at the time. I'm concerned that
some of this thinking is raising its ugly head once
again in both Europe and America. This is a review
from March seventh, twenty eighteen. So yeah, they they actually
went through those numbers in this book and just you know,
basically told on themselves that you know, it's like it's
one of those things where you're they do it all
this information that they do it. It's it's so ridiculous
that they do it all the time. They think that
if they put that out there, that thinking people aren't
going to ask questions like well, why well why I
mean people in this because you.
Speaker 2: Have to think that they think that they're the only
ones that are thinking people, and so I don't believe
in I don't believe in all of the all of
the sillier tropes about you know, their their cartoon representation
of uh in the figure of Dracula. I mean, yes,
you know, I understand Saint Simon for Saint Simon. Saint
Simon's going to have it, will have his revenge, I'm
sure of it, at least in Europe. But the fact
that the vampire can't see his reflection in the mirror
I find just so on the nose. I hate to
even cheapen it with a pun like that. But they're
not only incapable of self reflection haha, but they're also
incapable of seeing themselves as a broader group. Right, So
like that in that public bragging, like you would think like, oh,
this may be a bad idea for us more broadly,
you know, like there's no there's no reflection at a
group level either anyways, because the telling on themselves is constant,
it is a constant theme. I find it just deranged.
But some of the fiscal backers that the check Cutter is.
The big one is Julius Morton, Governor of Nebraska and
US Secretary of ad under. I believe Hoober. He was
kind of a big deal in the budding conservationist movement.
Arbor Day exists because of this man. He made he
made his money. I can't remember. I can't remember I
made his money. Somebody should check it out. I'm sure
it's interesting. Another guy was Joseph Patterson. It was a
millionaire at the time, very much of the establishment, and
was founder of the Daily News, which was the only
newspaper talking sense. So everyone, when you go back in time,
and this is the other thing, like our academics represent
the opinions of the American people in past times by
seeing by basically looking in the newspapers, right, pete, Like
if they want to see, like what Americans were saying
about a certain thing. But who owns the fucking newspapers?
Like I have never heard.
Speaker 1: Especially the New York Times?
Speaker 2: Yeah right? Who said that? That's the paper record? Who says, uh,
how come I have never how come I and probably
you have never heard of the Daily News? The newspaper.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about the New York Daily News, are we? Yeah,
the New York You have the New York Daily News,
you have the Post in the New York Post, and
you have the New York Times.
Speaker 2: Let me see, m M. I'd have to go back
and check. Yeah, keep going, it's just the Daily News.
The founders Joseph Peterson or Patterson pa double T E. R. Son.
But I had never heard of the Daily News. But
it was the largest newspaper in the country right in
the forties and the thirties and the twenties. How have
I never heard of that? And they had had the
largest circulation in the country. How come nobody ever goes
and looks at the Daily News when they're looking through
microfilms about American opinion Because I just found that out
yesterday and as of now, I am going to start
looking at when I want to look at opinions of
the past, That's what I'm going to look for because
almost all of the historical you know, academic work, right
is uh, you know, when they when newspapers are involved
or like, you know, going through archival newspapers, it's always
the New York Times or the Washington Post. But one
of the most interesting backers of America first and a
frequent check cutter was one John F. Kennedy. So you
had Gerald Ford as one of the founding members and
which I find that very interesting that he was Nixon's
VP choice. M all right, that's pretty cool. But anyways,
John F. Kennedy would write handwritten notes because he would
always would put his checks in envelopes, and on the
envelopes each time would be like, this is the most
vital This is the most vital effort in the nation.
This is the most important effort or the most important
undertaking of the nation. He was a vehement supporter of America. First,
John F. Kennedy his father as well, right, but his
father's a business magnate and a foreign diplomat, right, very
similar to like the Myron T. Herrick types. You know.
I think Herrick was a banker, Yeah, a successful banker,
because he's who that He's the guy who was I
think in the in the very first episod. So when
we were talking about the very first episode of The
Robbert Barons, we were talking about how Pierpont Morgan was
trying to get out ahead of and stop before it
really really really got underway. Like I think it was
like Turkey and some other country, you know, like this,
the the Eastern European countries had just started right and
it would later melt over. But the JP Morgan company
tried issue, tried offering very large, zero interest and forgivable
loans to both of the both of the belligerent nations.
And Myron was the It was orchestrated out of Morgan
and Morgan. Grenfeld was the London office. Morgan and Hodges
was the was the Paris office. It was operated out
of the US Embassy in France or in Paris, France,
which was that Myron guys operation, and out of Morgan
and Hodges. So I find it really interesting that like,
the same guys that tried to stop World War One
are also the same guys that tried to stop World
War two. I don't find that a coincidence at all.
Oh and by the way, they're also the most financially
powerful people, and you could say, the most financially literate
people in the country. So sorry libertarians, sorry leftists. It
turns out industrialists and bankers don't want wars, so no
wars or bankers wars. Retards. God, I hate this gineering
of libertarians, their bumper, their ideology is a bumper sticker
deep because all of the US bankers seemed to work
very very hard, at substantial personal risk to themselves and
their fortunes to do the opposite of war. So, at
least as far as America is concerned, no wars are
bankers wars. And the guy that headed the guy that
was the first president of the America First Committee is
a really interesting character. So, like you're talking about like
the level of American brass top top, I guess you
could say like pop ethnic stock of the heritage American ethnahus,
I shouldn't laugh, right, Darryl Cooper already spends enough time
trying to tell me that I don't have a people
and I don't have a country. I shouldn't give his
silly position any any help. But he's great on everything else,
Daryl Cooper's he's a really good guy, just wrong about
one thing, which is all right, because a lot of
smart guys are usually wrong at at least one thing.
Speaker 1: Murray Rothbard used to say that you're allowed one deviation.
Speaker 2: Really I like that. Yeah, I think I should be
allowed at least one contradiction or deviation or incoherence. Brigadier
General Robert Wood was the president and chairman of the
America First Committee. Like you know before this is this
guy's actually really really interesting, right. He was a successful executive,
and he went to West Point and he served in
the Philippines from nineteen oh two to nineteen oh three.
And if you know anything about what happened in the Philippines,
you will understand that this man saw some shit, like
some real horrific stuff. But he retired in nineteen fifteen
and then became the vice president of DuPont Company and
headed operations inside the United States, all right, just to
clarify for his service in the Philippines, because he would
wonder like is this guy like a kiddet, Like how
old is he? Right? So at the time that he
was retired, and he was a major and would later
be in nineteen oh five, became assistant quartermaster or assistant
chief quartermaster and then chief quartermaster, but that was after
his service in the Philippines. So he started off the
Philippines just you know, regular officer, as one does when
you graduate West Point. But he would leave a major
and then go and be vice president of DuPont and
head of US operations. Pete do you remember who was
one of the largest backers of the American Liberty League
besides Jack Morgan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't remember. I didn't remember, thank you.
Speaker 2: So I find it very interesting that one of DuPont's
top guys has the America First Committee. I'm sure after
the American Liberty League and the direct attack that they
came under by the newly birthed regulatory State, I'm assuming
that these guys thought it best to put at least
one layer vicilation between them and their political action, and
that was mister Robert wood sorry, Brigadier General Robert wood
h And he stepped down from the DuPont Company on
the eve of nineteen seventeen and America's entry into the
First World War. He returned to the army as an
infantry lieutenant colonel, so he was on the front line.
He stepped down out of the vice President's office of
one of the most successful and wealthiest companies in the
country to go to the front lines. Find me anyone
anyone in corporate America today in senior leadership that not
only served. There's lots of men that serve that have
hold those positions at least a handful. But how many
of them are going to step down from those positions
and fight on the front line if their nation is
ever called to arms. We used to be better.
Speaker 1: Unheard of. Yeah, it used to be. That just doesn't happen.
That doesn't happen anymore.
Speaker 2: All of this stops tomorrow, all of it. This hell
we live in, this frail house of a once great house,
this amazing place. It turned into a haunted house, a
house of like horrors. Now all of this ends tomorrow.
When the men with money realized that some things, in
fact most things, are more important than money. These men
knew that already instinctively. Somehow it's been conditioned out of us.
I don't know how, but I'm sure it wasn't easy,
and I'm sure it didn't happen quickly, but it happened.
These men knew that there were things more valuable than money,
that there were risks of loss far worse than money.
There are worse things, as we are finding out today,
than losing money and the sum total of our past.
And well, what's that quote from the movie The Patriots
or the only quote of that movie? I like, He's like,
he says that my greatest fear was that my past
sins would one day come home to roost. Like sorry,
the ghosts of my past sins would come home to roost,
and the cost would be more than I could bear.
I believe it's a quote. It's a good one because
I hope that that's not the case with America. I
hope that the ghosts of are elite's sins have come
home to roost. We live in it. I just hope
that the cost is not more than the nation can bear.
But he would later lead the entire American Expeditionary Force
and exited the war as a brigadier general. He would
then go on to chair the Sears Robock Company. He
became one of the most important business leaders, not only
in the company's history but in the country at the time,
serving as its president from nineteen twenty eight until nineteen
thirty nine. Also found at all State the pretty serious dude.
To give you an idea of his bona fides as
far as American Anglo aristocracy is, he in nineteen fifty
was admitted into the Fraternal and Hereditary Society of the
Cincinnati If you know, you know, I don't leave it
at that. But these people, these people weren't like the
men like I just see these men and I look
at like our guys, and the shoes that we have
to fill are immense. Yes, we have been kate kept
away from the wealth of our nation. And I say
that rather hypocritically because some of us, myself included, have
not been. But I know most of our guys have
so the bounty of the greatest country in the history
of the world. Their inheritance has been kept from them.
So as far as positions of prominence in our leading
business institutions, cultural institutions, and political institutions like ESAU, that
inheritance has been stolen through trickery and deceit. So these
men's positions of prominence are not shoes that I can
reasonably expect our guys to fill, but their character, their
sense of duty, and their commitment to America, the nation
that is a sum total of the internet or sory,
intergenerational what's the word to put it. I guess I
don't want to get too metaphysical, but we believe intrinsically
that there is some type of Well, every now and
then science throws us a bone, right, science confirms something
that surprises science, but does not surprise us people of faith,
all right, And one of those things is the discovery
of epigenetic memory. It's a very real thing. We can
test it in entirely controlled environments. Now first it was
one hundred monkeys thing that I think I mentioned on
our show with Thomas Astral and Jay Burden yea also
a great guy. But we can we can replicate it
in the lab and entirely close environments right where you know,
using different color spiders and things like that, where you
know chimp will you know, associates some very negative stimuli
to certain colors and shapes, and their offspring are inherently
i'm sorry, instinctly scared of those same colors and shapes
within one generation. So our consciousness, right, is there is
that innate nature of it, that observer, that passive participant,
that is pure awareness, that is that's our soul, that
is our spirit. But then there is our consciousness, our
conscious mind, the part of our soul that is us
and not God. That is a sum total of our memories,
our life. So if a portion of memory is inheritable,
intergenerational memory, then consciousness it's impossible to deny that there
is an element of intergenerational consciousness in a people and
Ethnos were racial consciousness in the real sense, not in
the rhetorical sense like the left uses. But there is
a real, living conscious entity that is in some total
of the memories of each generation. I don't think I'm
doing an adequate job of explaining. I'm a little slow today,
but the results of this are undeniable.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, please, honestly, honestly, I think that's a conversation
for another day. That deserves, that deserves its own episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to. I'd like to have that chat
with maybe Thomas too, because he was the one that
initially gave that light bulb. But like the people that
serve are moved by that consciousness. Right, those are shoes
that you can fill. I don't think the ancients were
dumb in their worship, at least in some spiritual capacity
their ancestors alongside their gods, because I mean, you know, anyways,
so we can fill those shoes. We don't have to
fill the shoes, you know, financially or economically or in
positions of prominence yet, but we have to be able
to fill those men. These men's shoes in our concept
and are mortal devotion to those things, to be ready
to fill those shoes, to be to be deserving of
filling those shoes. And when I look at these guys
and then I look at our guys today, we need
a lot of work. Just like the black pilling, for instance,
the constant defeatism. If you were in a trench, that
type of attitude would get everyone killed, if they didn't
kill you themselves.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we have to be better.
Speaker 1: Well we yeah, I'll end it. I'll end it on
this is you know, you mentioned Oran and an episode
he did and he was talking about the Antioch thing. Well,
what the is that? That's some bullsh bullshit inter Protestant fighting.
You know, sign this to make sign this to prove
you're not a fascist or whatever. But the the the
point of Oran's that whole episode, And you know a
couple of comments I've made recently is that it seems
like now that the left is seemingly defeated, instead of
the right focusing on either utterly destroying the left so
they never come back, or maybe looking at some problems,
some big problems on the right, they're arguing over memes
there are you. I mean, they're basically unfollowing people going
to war with people over the meaning of memes, and
we can't be expected to be ready for the kind
of fight you're talking about if we're fighting with each
other over this meme or you know, what is you know?
Or oh well, you know, if if you're if you're
against Israel, if you're against Israel right now because they're
at war, then you're obviously on the side of the Palestinians.
I mean it just and if that's if that's true,
you're a third worldist And it's just bullshit. It's just
the right, got it. The right decided they were going
to get into The right is like, oh well look
at this. I mean, Trump got elected and you know
the woke is you see people taking removing their pronouns
and stuff like that. So they're defeated, so let's fight
with each other.
Speaker 2: You know what? Just sounds like to me what the
Army Rangers and also NATO has been nice enough to
do something similar to the documents called cognitive warfare. It
cannot the Army Rangers. The Army Rangers have their own
psychological warfare outfit and you can get a hold of
the the training manual doctrine. They even I think it's this.
The repository I found them on was like it's like
called Public and cel Intelligence. It's a great site for
policy documents and training manuals, like a training manual for
like anything. No terry is really like not just like
a you know, it's not an instruction manual. It's really
like everything, right, it's a complete text. But the Public
Intelligence I believe was the site I got it from
in this particular instance. But it basically goes through what
syops actually are, and I think it's very informative, and
I think we would do well in knowing it because
all the things that we get chalked up so that
we chalk up to syops, right, like hoaxes or trying
to convince us of things that aren't real, right, like
holograms or whatever. Like all the stuff that Alex Jones,
you know, screams, are syops, right, Like these fake things
that didn't happen, trying to convince us of not real things.
That represents less than ten percent of what a SYOPS
unit actually does. Right, So our whole conception of what
a SYOP is is less than ten percent of what
psychological operations soldiers right, and operatives are actually doing. Do
you know what ninety percent of their time, energy, and
resources is spent on sowing discord and creating infighting in
a target group. It's what ninety percent of sy oups
is on the ground in sounds familiar, Yeah, it does, right,
because the number one priority is to break enemy cohesion
right and get the various leadership individuals or organizations in
an enemy population or an enemy fighting force to fight
with each other. Because when that happens, logistics breaks down,
command and control breaks down, and most importantly, trust breaks down. Right.
If you don't trust this part of your outfit, you
aren't going to be confident that they will resupply you
or reinforce you. Right, So that completely changes your paradigm
of what is possible on the battlefield. Right, you won't
do certain things. There's simply sewing, creating infighting, and sowing discord.
All of the second and third order effects of that
on the battlefield are huge, So much so it is
so worthwhile that it represents ninety percent of what psychological
operations units devote their time to. It's all about infighting.
Infighting is the name of the fucking game, and When
I see contrived controversies that no one asked for taking
over the entire disc course, I get suspicious because if
I have to ask, why the fuck does this matter?
And whose issue was this prior? Right, was this like
the hobby horse of any particular like subset of people. No,
it wasn't. This is suspicious as fuck, and anybody fighting
on either side of this argument is dumb or disingenuous.
This is this is an actual siop. Right, fucking holograms
or you know, no planes or Project Bluebean convince you
of any alien like that's not syops. This is syops.
This dumb shit.
Speaker 1: Ye. Yeah, I think I think that's where we should
end it.
Speaker 2: I think so too. Man, it's a pleasure, thank you
for having me.
Speaker 1: On always always, and let's get let's get back together
with Astrol and Thomas and uh and Jay real soon
and pumps some of that out because people are I
think people are loving that too, So.
Speaker 2: I really like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we do a lot of stuff in real time
there too, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think I think panels are the
way to go, like for like current stuff or like
stuff that's affect like stuff like this. A panel is
perfect for stuff that's afflicting our guys and the scene
like right now. Also for planning, like objectives for you know.
Speaker 1: Anyways, that's something that's something we should definitely get together
and talk with Thomas about. Yeah, absolutely, because he's gonna
have a lot on that, all right, man, I appreciate you,
Thank you very much.