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your support. Fox News reports North Carolina is ranked ninth
in the country for human trafficking according to data from
the National Human Trafficking Hotline. In twenty twenty four, the
state identified three hundred one cases of human trafficking involving
five hundred eighty victims. By the way, the Darien Gap,
that's the place down in Central America, this really dangerous
course that illegal aliens go through in order to make
their way up to the border. They were seeing like
half a million crossings a year under Biden, and they're
down to like twenty five hundred in the Darien Gap.
And that's a good thing. See, if you actually care
about the safety of the people that are making that trek,
then the safest thing is to not make that trek
where they will be abused, They'll be robbed, they'll be raped,
they'll be kidnapped, trafficked. Right, that's what happens along the
human smuggling routes. And to you know, to defend this
kind of a system and this open border philosophy, Democrat
like to me, the mask is off now for Democrats
like this. What they want is amnesty for everybody that's here.
And I've gone over before in the last hour. You know,
the impact on electric elections. There are many reasons and
that's what's got the magitated about the enforcement actions. All Right,
a lot of people laying in on this. I got
a bunch of messages to get to and I'll circle
back Pasaki style to the human trafficking story. First, let
me start with the phones, and this is Corey. Welcome
to the show. Hello Corey, how are you.
Speaker 2: Hey, sir?
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for taking my carl. Sure, just
as someone sitting in the middle of the Democrat Republican debacle,
I'm wondering, how are these people able to just point
out someone and say, yes, they're illegal, wound them up.
Then when they get them downtown, they may not be
they may maybe it's like a fishing expedition that both
parties are just coming up with verbs to allow this
type of behavior to go on in the name of politics.
Speaker 1: All right, so I'll ask you exactly what the question
I want to see the governor address, which is, what
is your evidence to support this claim?
Speaker 3: Here's here's what my evidence would be. Well, when you
grab that certain person, you can't even tell me if
they're illegal or illegal?
Speaker 1: You don't, no, no, no, what's your evidence to support
your claim that Border patrol does not know who it
is that they're picking up.
Speaker 3: Because when I go to ask you after you pick
them up, are they illegal or illegal? You can't answer it.
Speaker 1: Are you saying me or are you talking about Border Patrol?
Speaker 3: Border patrol? Border patrol of these cases?
Speaker 1: Right? Border Patrol has said they have compiled lists of
the people that they are going after, and they will
that's who they're prioritizing. But if other people get in
their way, if other.
Speaker 3: People are wrong, that's wrong for them to get in a.
Speaker 1: Way, right, get in the way, or if they are
there or if they are on like if they like
you know, you're you're walking down on the street and
they're targeting you, and I'm walking with you, and I'm
also illegal. We're both illegal, but you're on the list.
I'm not. And they show up to take you, They're
going to ask me. And if I'm not legal, then
I have no proof that I should be here. If
I am legal, then I should be by law carrying
my my identification papers and my permits to be here.
Speaker 3: True, that's the simplistic thinking. But how did they contract
this list if they don't even have the documentation.
Speaker 1: Of arrest records? Arrest records, so.
Speaker 3: Now they're going off the arrest records and usual identification
when they jump out right. So really like how they
misconstrued the guys hanging up Christmas lights just misidentification?
Speaker 1: Well sure, that's what I know. I mean seriously, like
if they if they are looking for somebody and they
know Like for example, a lot of people came in
with the asylum program that Joe Biden illegally, unconstitutionally implemented
and mass Acienn everybody. Well, part of that asylum program
was the CBP app. This was a phone app, so
people applied for asylum and gave up their information to
the federal government.
Speaker 3: So they just took that database and went around looking
for those people in the database.
Speaker 1: It seems logical to me, right, if you know that
you've got if you're going to cross reference people who
went through the asylum.
Speaker 3: I'd been making so many mistakes of picking up people
who were.
Speaker 1: Not Ee, how many mistakes have they made so far
in Charlotte?
Speaker 3: It's too much?
Speaker 1: How many? You don't know, Corey? But Corey, you don't
know of any We don't have any information that anybody
was actually picked up that's not an illegal alien. So
I don't know so far. No, I don't know. I'm
telling you we don't know.
Speaker 3: No, Corey, I asked you not make a mistakes.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're making mistakes, and you don't either.
That was the point of me asking you, because you
made an assertion. I asked for your evidence.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm actually in opinion about this because you're
just guessing to stay in.
Speaker 1: The logic, right, you don't understand what.
Speaker 3: You're getting this information. How are you able to determine
someone is illegal without documentation in your possession?
Speaker 1: Right? So, as I said, these are people that were
arrested on charges, many of whom then went through our
jail and were released by our sheriff because he does
not cooperate with ICE.
Speaker 3: So that is, like you no, why he didn't cooperate too.
Speaker 1: Because he ran on a platform of not cooperating with ICE.
Back in twenty eighteen, he said elect me Democrat.
Speaker 3: Was something in the policy that he didn't like.
Speaker 4: I just might be not.
Speaker 1: No, he's just a post He's opposed to working with
ICE on immigration stuff. That's why he ran on a
promise of scrapping the two eighty seven G program and
that's what got him through the Democrat primary and got
him into office.
Speaker 3: So the program needs to be looked into. See why
he didn't want to go along.
Speaker 1: With No, there's nothing about the program that makes him
not want to go along with it. It's he didn't
want to go along.
Speaker 3: With it the program.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's a sociopathic, narcissistic, stubborn guy. Absolutely. Yes, I've
covered it in great detail over the years. That's why
I call him Gary not my fault McFadden, because nothing
is ever his fault. Yeah, he ran on the platform.
He did so to win the Democrat primary because that's
where the incentive lies for that voter base.
Speaker 3: We do have a lot of psychological politicians out here
on both sides of the feat.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, oh yeah, yeah, Well, it definitely takes a
certain type of personality to get into that line of work,
no doubt about that.
Speaker 3: You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Corey. I appreciate the call, buddy, Yes,
all right, take care. Yeah, there's nothing wrong specifically with
the program two eighty seven G. Every sheriff in North
Caro virtually every sheriff in North Carolina still uses two
eighty seven G. And the worst part of it was
that the two eity seven G program we were Mecklimber
County was like the second county in America. We were
like right at the front of the line because our
sheriff at the time, a Democrat, gym Penograph, heard about
the program that was implemented out in Texas somewhere at
some conference. He got information about it, and then he
implemented it here. And all it is is a way
to screen the people that are coming into the jail
through the ICE database. That's it, so you know if
they've got criminal records back in their home countries and
they're here illegally. But no, no, no, we can't do
that because if we'd see if we don't identify them
when they come into the jail as illegal aliens, if
we don't, if we blind ourselves to that information, now
we don't have to do anything. We can just turn
them loose. And that's how you end up releasing violent
criminals back out onto the street and repeat, repeat, repeat,
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let me jump over here, beca. You may have an
answer to question JJ. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 5: Hello, JJ, Hey, how are you doing?
Speaker 2: Page?
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm good. What's going on?
Speaker 5: I am a former Border Patrol agent. I'm from Concord,
North Carolina, and I want to explain how Border Patrol
establishes whether somebody's in the country illegally, okay, when they're
speaking with somebody. It's basic, simple law enforcement. You ask questions,
and the Border Patrol, when you're in the Bordertroll Academy,
they have a series of questions that you're supposed to ask,
and they teach you and they ingrain these things. Doctrinates
you to ask these questions. And the first one's simple,
what country are you a citizen of? And based on
the response, you go from there. If they claim that
they're a citizen of the United Kingdom, Canada, Mexico, Hondoras, whatever,
then you ask for their immigration documents if they say
they're a US citizen what state wereborn in? And people
don't understand too. The Border Oftroll has the immigration checkpoints
along the Southwest border on roads that every vehicle has
to come into and me as a border trail agent,
and when I entered them, when I was off and
stuff like that, I was asked the exact same question,
what country or.
Speaker 3: Your citizen of?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 5: And it starts there.
Speaker 3: It's very simple.
Speaker 1: So do you think that the do you think, well,
what do you make of these accusations that the border
patrol agents that are rolling through Charlotte, that they're driving
around just scooping up people off of the street racially profiling.
Speaker 5: I don't buy that at all. I don't buy that
at all.
Speaker 3: I think they, like you said earlier were talking to.
Speaker 5: Corey, they have a list they've cross referenced with other
federal databases, public record arrest records, and they're looking for
certain people. When they encounter other people, basimply.
Speaker 3: Ask them what country you're citizen of? Right now?
Speaker 5: You gotta be careful too. You can't claim to be
US citizen and not be US citisen that's actually a
fellow me really, Yes, false clim of the USC.
Speaker 1: I did not know that claiming to be a US
citizen when you are not, I assume when talking with
a federal law enforcement official.
Speaker 5: Anytime you can't vote in a federal election.
Speaker 1: Oh that's true. Yeah, No, that's true. Yeah, I I
guess I had never Yeah, I never thought about that.
Oh that's interesting, right, So what do you make then
of Well, I'll say it this way the way I
know one of the pieces of evidence that I rely
on when I'm looking at all of these videos on
social media that people are posting against the accusation that
they're just scooping people up. If they were, they would
have scooped up a whole bunch of the people that
were protesting, right, Like, if they're just going around picking
up anybody, American citizens, everybody, right, just scooping up people
based on racial profiling, Why wouldn't they just scoop up
a bunch of people that show up at wherever they're
doing their enforcement action, and you get an extra thirty
people there, why wouldn't you just start scooping them up
if you didn't care, right, if you're just willing nearly
doing it, it seems like that would be the thing
to do so, but they're not doing that.
Speaker 5: Yes, the Border Patrol is a very well organized, professionally
run law enforcement agency and it's just like any other
law enforcements, no different intwork police department. It has policies
to go by, law to go by, and they are
very professional. Now where they made mistakes, everybody makes mistakes,
Every profession makes mistakes. Right in large, they're a great
agency and they do a great job.
Speaker 1: Well, JJ, I appreciate the insight. Thanks so much. Thanks
for service too, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Yes, Repete, all right, take care, Yes.
Speaker 1: Sir, Yeah, it's uh. I'm not going to claim, as
JJ just said. I'm not going to claim that Border
Patrol is going to make every decision correctly. I'm not
going to defend everything that they may possibly do. No,
I take things on a case by case basis. But
here's the thing. You know, you can go over to
their website and you can log in and you can
put the people's names in. If you know their full
actual name and their country of origin, you could find
them in the system. So, like I'm thinking, if you
know of somebody that's an American citizen that got detained
and taken up in this operation. You should know if
they're in the system or not. You would know, But
we haven't seen any reports yet. I haven't seen any
reports of American citizens that have been scooped up. I
haven't seen any reports of people that were non violent,
had no criminal record. I haven't seen anything like that.
All I'm getting right now are these little short videos
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the phones, we shall return, John, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Hello John, Hey, hey, you were talking about what the
process and procedures at ICE is employing my Bob Gun.
I'm in construction of my manager. He was born in
this country. He's twenty seven, well actually just turned twenty eight.
He was called up in what he just called it
as a sweep with guys just coming in indiscriminately entertaining
people into asking fried ds, and he was one of them.
So it is not a surgical procedure at all.
Speaker 1: Well that at least that well, that instance wasn't surgical,
although it.
Speaker 2: Was no, but that's that's the m I don't think
that they were just this this one instance happened, so
I can't help but think that this is the general
means of operating and it's it's pretty disturbing and pretty bad.
And it shook him up bad.
Speaker 1: So why why did it shake him up badly?
Speaker 2: Because he's like, I didn't do anything wrong, right, and
I'm now detained?
Speaker 1: What does that mean he was detained? He was taking someplace.
Speaker 2: No, but but the point is that he's a citizen, right,
and he voted for Trump, right, and he's he's shaken
to the core, like, you know, this is just this
is an absolute violation.
Speaker 1: What why was Why is it a violation? You just
heard from JJ who said that the first question they asked,
are you a citizen of the United States?
Speaker 2: And he says he didn't.
Speaker 1: Well that's what JJ, the border patrol guys.
Speaker 2: Okay, but right, so that's the first question, Wait a minute.
Speaker 1: They don't need well, they don't need probable cause to
ask you that question because it's because how you answer
the question. If you say, yeah, I'm a US citizen,
then it's like, okay, do you have you know? Driver?
Where do you have a driver's license? Were you born where?
What state were you born in? He said, like they've
got a they've got like a set list of questions
that they run.
Speaker 2: Through, right, but what's the probable calls for? You're saying
they don't need probable calls for even asking that question.
Speaker 1: No law enforcement can ask you a question.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think you need to check on that.
It's it's like, uh, just take let's just take a.
Speaker 1: Probable cause to make a to make a traffic stop.
But if a cop is walking down the street and
I'm walking down the street and he says I that's
a cop is not a good example because they're not
border patrol. They got different powers. But the border patrol
is empowered to ask those questions of everybody, Like, for example,
as JJ said, when you're coming across the border, everybody
gets asked the same question.
Speaker 2: Well, as smart as you are, I'm surprised that you
can't make the distinction of what the Constitution. I don't
think the Constitution is when it was written, was well,
except in the case of border patrol or immigration questions,
we can violate the Fourth Amendment. I guess it's the
fourth Amendment.
Speaker 1: I see. And I don't believe that the probable cause
test applies because you're not you're not making an arrest.
Speaker 2: No, you're might not rigging in arrest. But that's you
remember when cops you set up roadblocks on Moehead or
Sure whatever, and that that got stopped because of the
violation of the presumption of guilt one people that had
no signs of being guilty. And that was a violation
of our constitutional rights. And I'm what scares me are
the optics of this. Democrats always make Hey, hell they
make hay out of nothing. Well they're really going to
make hay out of this. And and I'm afraid what
I you know, I'm in construction. I see it said,
my god, no one's working right, legal or illegal, and
it's it's I mean, our our jobs are for a halt.
And and what scares me is is and I can't
help but think the heavy handedness of the sweets. I'm
going to use his words, but he was there and
experienced it, not me. Is going to read down very negatively. Ultimately,
you know, the Hispanic were in roads that were made
and fifty four percent of Hispanic mails voting for Trump.
I can't help but think that it's going to get
eroded some because of.
Speaker 1: It's already going to happen. See my view want this
like mag is already starting to splinter, that fight's already occurring.
Donald Trump is already starting to hobble into his lane
duck period. So whatever they got to get done, they
have a short time period to get it done in
And like fifty five percent of the polling shows Americans
want illegal aliens deported, not just criminal aliens, illegally right
and that and because of the because of the lack
of enforcement, particularly in these sanctuary communities like Charlotte. Because
of that, this is now what we have to go
through in order to get people out.
Speaker 2: Maybe what other.
Speaker 1: Way is there, what other way is there that that
that will allow for the kind of that will allow
what I'm going to give you parameters because it has
to be done within the next year or two, because
when Trump is gone If Republicans don't win, then all
of this goes away and open borders returns, and there.
Speaker 2: Be legislation at the federal level that says UH immigrations
in the cases of immigration where local law enforcement UH
comes into contact and determines or has reagionable calls to
be known to them that this person is illegal, that
was in the conduct of a crime and was to
take right.
Speaker 1: So what you're doing is you're John You're constructing. You're
constructing the scaffolding for amnesty, and I'm not for abuser.
Speaker 2: Sure, well, I think most people for amnesty. People have
been here for twenty forty years. Nope, I think they are.
Speaker 1: I think why why then do fifty five percent say
can deport all the illegal aliens?
Speaker 2: Don't?
Speaker 1: I don't believe correct what Trumps.
Speaker 2: They believed what Trump said when he said the worst
first and he actually said we'll see and Trump offered amnesty.
Do you remember back what was at twenty seventeen, you know,
let me build the wall, I'll give you amnesty to
the Democratic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not advocating that. So you can argue with
Trump about what he thinks on that stuff. Right, I
don't trust Democrats on immigration enforcement because every time they
try to swap them out, So this is enforcement first,
and you know it's gonna look messy, and it's gonna
look messy because people who have been angling for amnesty
for the last thirty years don't want to give up
that ghost. So I appreciate the call. All right, if
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get Michael on here. I think he's got something relevant
to add to the previous caller. Hey Michael, welcome to
the show.
Speaker 2: Hey Pete, how's it going?
Speaker 1: Hey good Man, what's up?
Speaker 4: So I'm going to retire Maryland State trooper and we
can stop people and ask them for IDs and stuff.
I've dealt with all kinds of people up in that area, legal, illegal,
diplomatic immunity. You don't have to have problem calls to
stop some eye and ask.
Speaker 2: Them for ID.
Speaker 4: And basically that's what they're doing. It's no difference to
ND licensed. Would you pull up and they ask you
for your ID. There's no probable calls to stop you
and ask for it. So you know your first caller
or the caller before you, he was was a little
wrong on that issue.
Speaker 1: Right, So Border patrol showing up at the work site
asking an American citizen who is the site manager or
whoever the work crew he fa, the chief guy asking
him the first question that JJ talked about border patrol
asking are uh yeah, are you a what citizen? Are
you a country? Or what country you're a citizen of?
I think was the first question he said. They're allowed
to ask that question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just yeah, you can. You can say that
because you know that they're there doing that anyway, and
they have the right to ask the question. Now if
you don't respond, you don't necessarily have to respond, but
then you know that that leads to other things. But yeah,
you law enforcement has the right to identify who you are.
Speaker 1: Right, And that's why right, And that's why these you know,
these uh how to you know, how to behave and
what to do if you get stopped by ice, these
these uh flyers that they're handing out and the you know,
the the posts and stuff on social media's telling it's
advising them of their quote rights. And what they're telling
them is don't say anything. That's what they're they're advising
people not to say. These immigration attorneys and stuff, they're saying,
don't tell them anything. Just don't speak. So when they
come up to you and they ask you the question,
you refuse to answer. Well, now like they're going to
start trying to figure out who you are, and now
you may end up getting detained. So it's like it's
still going to lead to if you're an illegal alien,
it's probably still going to lead to the same result
that you're going to get taken away.
Speaker 3: Possible.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because if I ask you like who are you
and you don't speak to me and you keep walking,
there's a point where you have to it crosses a threshold.
But if you don't speak, then you don't necessarily have
the right to detain up that point because really they'll
not be entertained. It's like stopping frisk You roll up
on somebody, or let's say you got like a call
for a burglary or something, or a suspicious person. You
pull up in a neighborhood and you see this person
wearing all black. You get out and say, hey, who
are you? You have the right to do that. Now,
whether they respond or not, I mean, that's up to you.
But there are different avenues that you can go down
to do different things. But as far as I'm walking
up asking who you are, and that's not an attainment
that is just a stop it it's basically stop and
frisk policy. So now, and if you you just not say,
you know, I'm a US citizen whatever if you are,
because if you don't, that's that's another.
Speaker 1: That's a felony. I learned today. It's a felony to
say that you're a citizen when you're not.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so you know, I dealt with people like
with diplomatic community and stuff that we're here. You know
they wouldn't they were here legally, some un legally. So
you know, there's just different avenues. You ask certain questions
so that you know which direction to go down, right, Basically.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I got you, Michael. I appreciate the insight.
Thanks so much. Thanks for your service too.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you all.
Speaker 1: Right, take care. Yeah, that's what I don't agree with John,
the previous caller there, John, about his assessment that that's
a Fourth Amendment violation. I don't believe that to be
the case. They're allowed to ask you those questions. Now,
how you respond, that's a different story. Let me do
this real quick because I only have a minute left
here before the newscast, and I have a bunch of
people online. I got a ton of messages also, but
I do want to finish. This story came from Fox
News about human trafficking, identifying North Carolina as number nine
in the nation. Charlotte's the worst in the state due
to its interstate highway system, it's high demand for inexpensive labor,
and increased amount of gang activity. That's why North Carolina
is now ranked number nine. And part of the reason
why Charlotte is a trafficking hub is because of the
highway system and because of where we are located along
that system. Right we are along the eastern seaboard, and
we are between DC and Atlanta and Florida, and so
any of those trafficking networks are going to roll through here,
and so we are essentially a pit stop for human traffickers.
The number of Charlotte residents falling victim to trafficking could
partially be attributed to the prevalence of gang activity within
the city, with criminal organizations maintaining a firm grip on
the area's network, primarily the Bloods. They have a huge
stronghold in human trafficking. According to the experts quoted in
the piece, they're one of the primary organized crime groups
responsible for trafficking in Charlotte. Yeah, who said we weren't
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