1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on. Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,480 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,640 go to vpeteclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,719 smartphone or tablet, And again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,399 your support. Fox News reports North Carolina is ranked ninth 10 00:00:32,399 --> 00:00:35,560 in the country for human trafficking according to data from 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,119 the National Human Trafficking Hotline. In twenty twenty four, the 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,960 state identified three hundred one cases of human trafficking involving 13 00:00:44,039 --> 00:00:49,600 five hundred eighty victims. By the way, the Darien Gap, 14 00:00:50,439 --> 00:00:53,679 that's the place down in Central America, this really dangerous 15 00:00:53,759 --> 00:00:57,600 course that illegal aliens go through in order to make 16 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,439 their way up to the border. They were seeing like 17 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,879 half a million crossings a year under Biden, and they're 18 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,719 down to like twenty five hundred in the Darien Gap. 19 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,120 And that's a good thing. See, if you actually care 20 00:01:14,879 --> 00:01:19,200 about the safety of the people that are making that trek, 21 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,959 then the safest thing is to not make that trek 22 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,040 where they will be abused, They'll be robbed, they'll be raped, 23 00:01:27,799 --> 00:01:32,920 they'll be kidnapped, trafficked. Right, that's what happens along the 24 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:39,359 human smuggling routes. And to you know, to defend this 25 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,079 kind of a system and this open border philosophy, Democrat 26 00:01:43,159 --> 00:01:45,920 like to me, the mask is off now for Democrats 27 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,359 like this. What they want is amnesty for everybody that's here. 28 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,640 And I've gone over before in the last hour. You know, 29 00:01:53,879 --> 00:02:00,159 the impact on electric elections. There are many reasons and 30 00:02:00,239 --> 00:02:05,359 that's what's got the magitated about the enforcement actions. All Right, 31 00:02:05,359 --> 00:02:06,959 a lot of people laying in on this. I got 32 00:02:07,079 --> 00:02:10,199 a bunch of messages to get to and I'll circle 33 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,240 back Pasaki style to the human trafficking story. First, let 34 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,400 me start with the phones, and this is Corey. Welcome 35 00:02:17,439 --> 00:02:19,240 to the show. Hello Corey, how are you. 36 00:02:20,039 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: Hey, sir? 37 00:02:20,599 --> 00:02:24,719 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for taking my carl. Sure, just 38 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,960 as someone sitting in the middle of the Democrat Republican debacle, 39 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:35,680 I'm wondering, how are these people able to just point 40 00:02:35,719 --> 00:02:39,000 out someone and say, yes, they're illegal, wound them up. 41 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,439 Then when they get them downtown, they may not be 42 00:02:43,199 --> 00:02:47,080 they may maybe it's like a fishing expedition that both 43 00:02:47,159 --> 00:02:52,080 parties are just coming up with verbs to allow this 44 00:02:52,199 --> 00:02:55,400 type of behavior to go on in the name of politics. 45 00:02:55,439 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: All right, so I'll ask you exactly what the question 46 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,439 I want to see the governor address, which is, what 47 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,520 is your evidence to support this claim? 48 00:03:05,719 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 3: Here's here's what my evidence would be. Well, when you 49 00:03:09,039 --> 00:03:11,879 grab that certain person, you can't even tell me if 50 00:03:11,879 --> 00:03:13,360 they're illegal or illegal? 51 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: You don't, no, no, no, what's your evidence to support 52 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,159 your claim that Border patrol does not know who it 53 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:21,400 is that they're picking up. 54 00:03:22,199 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 3: Because when I go to ask you after you pick 55 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,360 them up, are they illegal or illegal? You can't answer it. 56 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: Are you saying me or are you talking about Border Patrol? 57 00:03:33,159 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 3: Border patrol? Border patrol of these cases? 58 00:03:36,919 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: Right? Border Patrol has said they have compiled lists of 59 00:03:41,319 --> 00:03:44,520 the people that they are going after, and they will 60 00:03:44,639 --> 00:03:48,560 that's who they're prioritizing. But if other people get in 61 00:03:48,639 --> 00:03:50,360 their way, if other. 62 00:03:50,199 --> 00:03:52,919 Speaker 3: People are wrong, that's wrong for them to get in a. 63 00:03:52,919 --> 00:03:55,479 Speaker 1: Way, right, get in the way, or if they are 64 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,759 there or if they are on like if they like 65 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,879 you know, you're you're walking down on the street and 66 00:04:01,039 --> 00:04:04,000 they're targeting you, and I'm walking with you, and I'm 67 00:04:04,039 --> 00:04:06,400 also illegal. We're both illegal, but you're on the list. 68 00:04:06,479 --> 00:04:10,120 I'm not. And they show up to take you, They're 69 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,240 going to ask me. And if I'm not legal, then 70 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,240 I have no proof that I should be here. If 71 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,720 I am legal, then I should be by law carrying 72 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,759 my my identification papers and my permits to be here. 73 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: True, that's the simplistic thinking. But how did they contract 74 00:04:26,959 --> 00:04:30,600 this list if they don't even have the documentation. 75 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,759 Speaker 1: Of arrest records? Arrest records, so. 76 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 3: Now they're going off the arrest records and usual identification 77 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,560 when they jump out right. So really like how they 78 00:04:39,639 --> 00:04:43,480 misconstrued the guys hanging up Christmas lights just misidentification? 79 00:04:43,959 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: Well sure, that's what I know. I mean seriously, like 80 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,000 if they if they are looking for somebody and they 81 00:04:51,079 --> 00:04:53,800 know Like for example, a lot of people came in 82 00:04:53,879 --> 00:04:58,839 with the asylum program that Joe Biden illegally, unconstitutionally implemented 83 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:04,639 and mass Acienn everybody. Well, part of that asylum program 84 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,279 was the CBP app. This was a phone app, so 85 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,439 people applied for asylum and gave up their information to 86 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:13,560 the federal government. 87 00:05:14,879 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: So they just took that database and went around looking 88 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,680 for those people in the database. 89 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: It seems logical to me, right, if you know that 90 00:05:22,079 --> 00:05:24,680 you've got if you're going to cross reference people who 91 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:25,920 went through the asylum. 92 00:05:25,519 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 3: I'd been making so many mistakes of picking up people 93 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:28,600 who were. 94 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,079 Speaker 1: Not Ee, how many mistakes have they made so far 95 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:31,839 in Charlotte? 96 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 3: It's too much? 97 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: How many? You don't know, Corey? But Corey, you don't 98 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,480 know of any We don't have any information that anybody 99 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,399 was actually picked up that's not an illegal alien. So 100 00:05:45,519 --> 00:05:48,040 I don't know so far. No, I don't know. I'm 101 00:05:48,079 --> 00:05:49,360 telling you we don't know. 102 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: No, Corey, I asked you not make a mistakes. 103 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,399 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're making mistakes, and you don't either. 104 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,600 That was the point of me asking you, because you 105 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,959 made an assertion. I asked for your evidence. 106 00:06:00,399 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 3: You know, I'm actually in opinion about this because you're 107 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:04,759 just guessing to stay in. 108 00:06:04,759 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: The logic, right, you don't understand what. 109 00:06:07,399 --> 00:06:10,879 Speaker 3: You're getting this information. How are you able to determine 110 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,959 someone is illegal without documentation in your possession? 111 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: Right? So, as I said, these are people that were 112 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,519 arrested on charges, many of whom then went through our 113 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,120 jail and were released by our sheriff because he does 114 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:27,399 not cooperate with ICE. 115 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,959 Speaker 3: So that is, like you no, why he didn't cooperate too. 116 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: Because he ran on a platform of not cooperating with ICE. 117 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,879 Back in twenty eighteen, he said elect me Democrat. 118 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,519 Speaker 3: Was something in the policy that he didn't like. 119 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:39,399 Speaker 4: I just might be not. 120 00:06:40,079 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: No, he's just a post He's opposed to working with 121 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,000 ICE on immigration stuff. That's why he ran on a 122 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,079 promise of scrapping the two eighty seven G program and 123 00:06:49,079 --> 00:06:51,240 that's what got him through the Democrat primary and got 124 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:52,000 him into office. 125 00:06:53,079 --> 00:06:55,959 Speaker 3: So the program needs to be looked into. See why 126 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,560 he didn't want to go along. 127 00:06:57,319 --> 00:07:00,399 Speaker 1: With No, there's nothing about the program that makes him 128 00:07:00,439 --> 00:07:01,959 not want to go along with it. It's he didn't 129 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:02,879 want to go along. 130 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 3: With it the program. 131 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: Yes, he's a sociopathic, narcissistic, stubborn guy. Absolutely. Yes, I've 132 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,439 covered it in great detail over the years. That's why 133 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,240 I call him Gary not my fault McFadden, because nothing 134 00:07:16,319 --> 00:07:21,839 is ever his fault. Yeah, he ran on the platform. 135 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,600 He did so to win the Democrat primary because that's 136 00:07:25,639 --> 00:07:28,279 where the incentive lies for that voter base. 137 00:07:28,639 --> 00:07:33,279 Speaker 3: We do have a lot of psychological politicians out here 138 00:07:33,319 --> 00:07:34,560 on both sides of the feat. 139 00:07:34,759 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: Oh sure, oh yeah, yeah, Well, it definitely takes a 140 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,360 certain type of personality to get into that line of work, 141 00:07:39,399 --> 00:07:40,120 no doubt about that. 142 00:07:40,199 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: You're absolutely right. 143 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Corey. I appreciate the call, buddy, Yes, 144 00:07:43,839 --> 00:07:47,800 all right, take care. Yeah, there's nothing wrong specifically with 145 00:07:47,879 --> 00:07:52,160 the program two eighty seven G. Every sheriff in North 146 00:07:52,199 --> 00:07:55,560 Caro virtually every sheriff in North Carolina still uses two 147 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,199 eighty seven G. And the worst part of it was 148 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,759 that the two eity seven G program we were Mecklimber 149 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:07,920 County was like the second county in America. We were 150 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,240 like right at the front of the line because our 151 00:08:10,319 --> 00:08:13,879 sheriff at the time, a Democrat, gym Penograph, heard about 152 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,480 the program that was implemented out in Texas somewhere at 153 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,839 some conference. He got information about it, and then he 154 00:08:20,879 --> 00:08:23,160 implemented it here. 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Welcome to the show. 186 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 5: Hello, JJ, Hey, how are you doing? 187 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: Page? 188 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm good. What's going on? 189 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 5: I am a former Border Patrol agent. I'm from Concord, 190 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,120 North Carolina, and I want to explain how Border Patrol 191 00:10:16,279 --> 00:10:20,159 establishes whether somebody's in the country illegally, okay, when they're 192 00:10:20,159 --> 00:10:25,120 speaking with somebody. It's basic, simple law enforcement. You ask questions, 193 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,480 and the Border Patrol, when you're in the Bordertroll Academy, 194 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,679 they have a series of questions that you're supposed to ask, 195 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,840 and they teach you and they ingrain these things. Doctrinates 196 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,120 you to ask these questions. And the first one's simple, 197 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,600 what country are you a citizen of? And based on 198 00:10:40,639 --> 00:10:43,559 the response, you go from there. If they claim that 199 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,879 they're a citizen of the United Kingdom, Canada, Mexico, Hondoras, whatever, 200 00:10:48,279 --> 00:10:51,799 then you ask for their immigration documents if they say 201 00:10:51,799 --> 00:10:56,559 they're a US citizen what state wereborn in? And people 202 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,000 don't understand too. The Border Oftroll has the immigration checkpoints 203 00:11:00,159 --> 00:11:02,759 along the Southwest border on roads that every vehicle has 204 00:11:02,799 --> 00:11:05,279 to come into and me as a border trail agent, 205 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,279 and when I entered them, when I was off and 206 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,320 stuff like that, I was asked the exact same question, 207 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,200 what country or. 208 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 3: Your citizen of? 209 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: Right? 210 00:11:12,879 --> 00:11:13,639 Speaker 5: And it starts there. 211 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:14,519 Speaker 3: It's very simple. 212 00:11:16,159 --> 00:11:20,279 Speaker 1: So do you think that the do you think, well, 213 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,440 what do you make of these accusations that the border 214 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,559 patrol agents that are rolling through Charlotte, that they're driving 215 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,600 around just scooping up people off of the street racially profiling. 216 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:36,039 Speaker 5: I don't buy that at all. I don't buy that 217 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:36,360 at all. 218 00:11:36,879 --> 00:11:39,159 Speaker 3: I think they, like you said earlier were talking to. 219 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,879 Speaker 5: Corey, they have a list they've cross referenced with other 220 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,039 federal databases, public record arrest records, and they're looking for 221 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,840 certain people. When they encounter other people, basimply. 222 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,639 Speaker 3: Ask them what country you're citizen of? Right now? 223 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,399 Speaker 5: You gotta be careful too. You can't claim to be 224 00:11:55,519 --> 00:11:57,559 US citizen and not be US citisen that's actually a 225 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,840 fellow me really, Yes, false clim of the USC. 226 00:12:03,399 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: I did not know that claiming to be a US 227 00:12:05,759 --> 00:12:08,759 citizen when you are not, I assume when talking with 228 00:12:08,879 --> 00:12:10,960 a federal law enforcement official. 229 00:12:12,759 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 5: Anytime you can't vote in a federal election. 230 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: Oh that's true. Yeah, No, that's true. Yeah, I I 231 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,559 guess I had never Yeah, I never thought about that. 232 00:12:22,919 --> 00:12:25,799 Oh that's interesting, right, So what do you make then 233 00:12:25,919 --> 00:12:30,360 of Well, I'll say it this way the way I 234 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,159 know one of the pieces of evidence that I rely 235 00:12:33,279 --> 00:12:35,320 on when I'm looking at all of these videos on 236 00:12:35,399 --> 00:12:39,840 social media that people are posting against the accusation that 237 00:12:39,879 --> 00:12:43,559 they're just scooping people up. If they were, they would 238 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,240 have scooped up a whole bunch of the people that 239 00:12:45,279 --> 00:12:48,240 were protesting, right, Like, if they're just going around picking 240 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,440 up anybody, American citizens, everybody, right, just scooping up people 241 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,679 based on racial profiling, Why wouldn't they just scoop up 242 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,240 a bunch of people that show up at wherever they're 243 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,159 doing their enforcement action, and you get an extra thirty 244 00:13:01,159 --> 00:13:03,440 people there, why wouldn't you just start scooping them up 245 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,360 if you didn't care, right, if you're just willing nearly 246 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,480 doing it, it seems like that would be the thing 247 00:13:07,919 --> 00:13:09,759 to do so, but they're not doing that. 248 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 5: Yes, the Border Patrol is a very well organized, professionally 249 00:13:14,039 --> 00:13:17,000 run law enforcement agency and it's just like any other 250 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:21,159 law enforcements, no different intwork police department. It has policies 251 00:13:21,159 --> 00:13:23,679 to go by, law to go by, and they are 252 00:13:23,879 --> 00:13:26,919 very professional. Now where they made mistakes, everybody makes mistakes, 253 00:13:26,919 --> 00:13:31,840 Every profession makes mistakes. Right in large, they're a great 254 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,559 agency and they do a great job. 255 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,799 Speaker 1: Well, JJ, I appreciate the insight. Thanks so much. Thanks 256 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,159 for service too, I appreciate it. 257 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: Yes, Repete, all right, take care, Yes. 258 00:13:40,799 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: Sir, Yeah, it's uh. I'm not going to claim, as 259 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,840 JJ just said. I'm not going to claim that Border 260 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,360 Patrol is going to make every decision correctly. I'm not 261 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,799 going to defend everything that they may possibly do. No, 262 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,039 I take things on a case by case basis. But 263 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,559 here's the thing. You know, you can go over to 264 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,679 their website and you can log in and you can 265 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,279 put the people's names in. If you know their full 266 00:14:06,399 --> 00:14:09,279 actual name and their country of origin, you could find 267 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:15,879 them in the system. So, like I'm thinking, if you 268 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,080 know of somebody that's an American citizen that got detained 269 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:23,559 and taken up in this operation. You should know if 270 00:14:23,559 --> 00:14:26,000 they're in the system or not. You would know, But 271 00:14:26,039 --> 00:14:28,080 we haven't seen any reports yet. I haven't seen any 272 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,799 reports of American citizens that have been scooped up. I 273 00:14:30,799 --> 00:14:33,080 haven't seen any reports of people that were non violent, 274 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,679 had no criminal record. I haven't seen anything like that. 275 00:14:35,919 --> 00:14:39,879 All I'm getting right now are these little short videos 276 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,480 of people getting cuffed and put into vehicles, and that 277 00:14:44,559 --> 00:14:47,279 does not tell me anything other than what is on 278 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,759 the video at that moment. I know nothing about what 279 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:55,559 happened prior, and you don't either. Here's a great idea. 280 00:14:55,679 --> 00:14:58,440 How about making an escape to a really special and 281 00:14:58,519 --> 00:15:01,679 secluded getaway in western North Carolina. 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He's twenty seven, well actually just turned twenty eight. 307 00:16:33,639 --> 00:16:35,720 He was called up in what he just called it 308 00:16:35,759 --> 00:16:41,600 as a sweep with guys just coming in indiscriminately entertaining 309 00:16:41,639 --> 00:16:45,240 people into asking fried ds, and he was one of them. 310 00:16:45,279 --> 00:16:49,200 So it is not a surgical procedure at all. 311 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: Well that at least that well, that instance wasn't surgical, 312 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:55,279 although it. 313 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: Was no, but that's that's the m I don't think 314 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,320 that they were just this this one instance happened, so 315 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:07,039 I can't help but think that this is the general 316 00:17:09,519 --> 00:17:13,319 means of operating and it's it's pretty disturbing and pretty bad. 317 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:14,880 And it shook him up bad. 318 00:17:16,559 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: So why why did it shake him up badly? 319 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 2: Because he's like, I didn't do anything wrong, right, and 320 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:24,920 I'm now detained? 321 00:17:25,559 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: What does that mean he was detained? He was taking someplace. 322 00:17:29,839 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: No, but but the point is that he's a citizen, right, 323 00:17:37,279 --> 00:17:40,880 and he voted for Trump, right, and he's he's shaken 324 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,680 to the core, like, you know, this is just this 325 00:17:43,839 --> 00:17:45,759 is an absolute violation. 326 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: What why was Why is it a violation? You just 327 00:17:50,279 --> 00:17:52,680 heard from JJ who said that the first question they asked, 328 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,440 are you a citizen of the United States? 329 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 2: And he says he didn't. 330 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: Well that's what JJ, the border patrol guys. 331 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 2: Okay, but right, so that's the first question, Wait a minute. 332 00:18:05,039 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: They don't need well, they don't need probable cause to 333 00:18:08,039 --> 00:18:12,200 ask you that question because it's because how you answer 334 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,839 the question. If you say, yeah, I'm a US citizen, 335 00:18:15,519 --> 00:18:17,759 then it's like, okay, do you have you know? Driver? 336 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,200 Where do you have a driver's license? Were you born where? 337 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,039 What state were you born in? He said, like they've 338 00:18:22,039 --> 00:18:24,440 got a they've got like a set list of questions 339 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:25,240 that they run. 340 00:18:25,079 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 2: Through, right, but what's the probable calls for? You're saying 341 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,400 they don't need probable calls for even asking that question. 342 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: No law enforcement can ask you a question. 343 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,079 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think you need to check on that. 344 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:45,039 It's it's like, uh, just take let's just take a. 345 00:18:44,079 --> 00:18:46,799 Speaker 1: Probable cause to make a to make a traffic stop. 346 00:18:47,279 --> 00:18:50,119 But if a cop is walking down the street and 347 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,680 I'm walking down the street and he says I that's 348 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,200 a cop is not a good example because they're not 349 00:18:55,279 --> 00:18:58,960 border patrol. They got different powers. But the border patrol 350 00:18:59,079 --> 00:19:03,319 is empowered to ask those questions of everybody, Like, for example, 351 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,160 as JJ said, when you're coming across the border, everybody 352 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,240 gets asked the same question. 353 00:19:08,079 --> 00:19:12,599 Speaker 2: Well, as smart as you are, I'm surprised that you 354 00:19:12,599 --> 00:19:16,240 can't make the distinction of what the Constitution. I don't 355 00:19:16,279 --> 00:19:20,079 think the Constitution is when it was written, was well, 356 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,119 except in the case of border patrol or immigration questions, 357 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,680 we can violate the Fourth Amendment. I guess it's the 358 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:27,359 fourth Amendment. 359 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: I see. And I don't believe that the probable cause 360 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:36,160 test applies because you're not you're not making an arrest. 361 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: No, you're might not rigging in arrest. But that's you 362 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,359 remember when cops you set up roadblocks on Moehead or 363 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:51,880 Sure whatever, and that that got stopped because of the 364 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,839 violation of the presumption of guilt one people that had 365 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:00,680 no signs of being guilty. And that was a violation 366 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,319 of our constitutional rights. And I'm what scares me are 367 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,160 the optics of this. Democrats always make Hey, hell they 368 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,880 make hay out of nothing. Well they're really going to 369 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,599 make hay out of this. And and I'm afraid what 370 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,799 I you know, I'm in construction. I see it said, 371 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:21,920 my god, no one's working right, legal or illegal, and 372 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,920 it's it's I mean, our our jobs are for a halt. 373 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:32,960 And and what scares me is is and I can't 374 00:20:33,039 --> 00:20:36,680 help but think the heavy handedness of the sweets. I'm 375 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,880 going to use his words, but he was there and 376 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:45,119 experienced it, not me. Is going to read down very negatively. Ultimately, 377 00:20:45,319 --> 00:20:49,680 you know, the Hispanic were in roads that were made 378 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:54,240 and fifty four percent of Hispanic mails voting for Trump. 379 00:20:54,279 --> 00:20:56,279 I can't help but think that it's going to get 380 00:20:56,279 --> 00:20:57,599 eroded some because of. 381 00:20:57,759 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: It's already going to happen. See my view want this 382 00:21:00,759 --> 00:21:03,920 like mag is already starting to splinter, that fight's already occurring. 383 00:21:04,559 --> 00:21:07,160 Donald Trump is already starting to hobble into his lane 384 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,519 duck period. So whatever they got to get done, they 385 00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:12,319 have a short time period to get it done in 386 00:21:13,079 --> 00:21:17,400 And like fifty five percent of the polling shows Americans 387 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,839 want illegal aliens deported, not just criminal aliens, illegally right 388 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,839 and that and because of the because of the lack 389 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:30,559 of enforcement, particularly in these sanctuary communities like Charlotte. Because 390 00:21:30,599 --> 00:21:33,319 of that, this is now what we have to go 391 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,880 through in order to get people out. 392 00:21:37,599 --> 00:21:40,079 Speaker 2: Maybe what other. 393 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: Way is there, what other way is there that that 394 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,920 that will allow for the kind of that will allow 395 00:21:45,319 --> 00:21:47,599 what I'm going to give you parameters because it has 396 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,720 to be done within the next year or two, because 397 00:21:52,079 --> 00:21:56,079 when Trump is gone If Republicans don't win, then all 398 00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:00,440 of this goes away and open borders returns, and there. 399 00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:05,799 Speaker 2: Be legislation at the federal level that says UH immigrations 400 00:22:05,839 --> 00:22:10,400 in the cases of immigration where local law enforcement UH 401 00:22:10,759 --> 00:22:15,559 comes into contact and determines or has reagionable calls to 402 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,920 be known to them that this person is illegal, that 403 00:22:19,039 --> 00:22:21,680 was in the conduct of a crime and was to 404 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:22,079 take right. 405 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: So what you're doing is you're John You're constructing. You're 406 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,039 constructing the scaffolding for amnesty, and I'm not for abuser. 407 00:22:30,839 --> 00:22:33,319 Speaker 2: Sure, well, I think most people for amnesty. People have 408 00:22:33,319 --> 00:22:37,240 been here for twenty forty years. Nope, I think they are. 409 00:22:38,039 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: I think why why then do fifty five percent say 410 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,960 can deport all the illegal aliens? 411 00:22:44,319 --> 00:22:44,519 Speaker 2: Don't? 412 00:22:44,799 --> 00:22:46,319 Speaker 1: I don't believe correct what Trumps. 413 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 2: They believed what Trump said when he said the worst 414 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:53,559 first and he actually said we'll see and Trump offered amnesty. 415 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,359 Do you remember back what was at twenty seventeen, you know, 416 00:22:56,519 --> 00:22:58,759 let me build the wall, I'll give you amnesty to 417 00:22:58,880 --> 00:22:59,960 the Democratic. 418 00:22:59,559 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not advocating that. So you can argue with 419 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,680 Trump about what he thinks on that stuff. Right, I 420 00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:11,680 don't trust Democrats on immigration enforcement because every time they 421 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,640 try to swap them out, So this is enforcement first, 422 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,880 and you know it's gonna look messy, and it's gonna 423 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,640 look messy because people who have been angling for amnesty 424 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,240 for the last thirty years don't want to give up 425 00:23:23,279 --> 00:23:27,519 that ghost. So I appreciate the call. All right, if 426 00:23:27,559 --> 00:23:29,319 you're listening to this show, you know I try to 427 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,160 keep up with all sorts of current events, and I 428 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,400 know you do too, And you've probably heard me say 429 00:23:33,519 --> 00:23:37,599 get your news from multiple sources. Why well, because it's 430 00:23:37,599 --> 00:23:40,279 how you detect media bias, which is why I've been 431 00:23:40,319 --> 00:23:43,880 so impressed with ground News. It's an app and it's 432 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,839 a website and it combines news from around the world 433 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,319 in one place so you can compare coverage and verify information. 434 00:23:50,599 --> 00:23:53,799 You can check it out at check dot ground, dot 435 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,079 news slash Pete. I put the link in the podcast 436 00:23:57,079 --> 00:24:00,160 description too. I started using ground News a few months 437 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,559 to go, and more recently chose to work with them 438 00:24:02,599 --> 00:24:05,359 as an affiliate because it lets me see clearly how 439 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,880 stories get covered and by whom. The blind spot feature 440 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,599 shows you which stories get ignored by the left and 441 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,680 the right. See for yourself. Check dot ground dot news 442 00:24:16,039 --> 00:24:19,160 slash Pete. Subscribe through that link and you'll get fifteen 443 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,279 percent off any subscription. I use the Vantage plan to 444 00:24:22,279 --> 00:24:25,759 get unlimited access to every feature. Your subscription then not 445 00:24:25,799 --> 00:24:28,799 only helps my podcast, but it also supports Ground News 446 00:24:28,839 --> 00:24:32,519 as they make the media landscape more transparent. Let me 447 00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:36,000 get Michael on here. I think he's got something relevant 448 00:24:36,079 --> 00:24:38,759 to add to the previous caller. Hey Michael, welcome to 449 00:24:38,799 --> 00:24:39,119 the show. 450 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 2: Hey Pete, how's it going? 451 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:41,759 Speaker 1: Hey good Man, what's up? 452 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 4: So I'm going to retire Maryland State trooper and we 453 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,440 can stop people and ask them for IDs and stuff. 454 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,200 I've dealt with all kinds of people up in that area, legal, illegal, 455 00:24:52,279 --> 00:24:55,000 diplomatic immunity. You don't have to have problem calls to 456 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,160 stop some eye and ask. 457 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:56,839 Speaker 2: Them for ID. 458 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,319 Speaker 4: And basically that's what they're doing. It's no difference to 459 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,359 ND licensed. Would you pull up and they ask you 460 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,920 for your ID. There's no probable calls to stop you 461 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,119 and ask for it. So you know your first caller 462 00:25:08,319 --> 00:25:10,559 or the caller before you, he was was a little 463 00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:11,559 wrong on that issue. 464 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: Right, So Border patrol showing up at the work site 465 00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:20,599 asking an American citizen who is the site manager or 466 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,839 whoever the work crew he fa, the chief guy asking 467 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,319 him the first question that JJ talked about border patrol 468 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,720 asking are uh yeah, are you a what citizen? Are 469 00:25:31,759 --> 00:25:33,799 you a country? Or what country you're a citizen of? 470 00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:36,279 I think was the first question he said. They're allowed 471 00:25:36,279 --> 00:25:37,079 to ask that question. 472 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just yeah, you can. You can say that 473 00:25:39,599 --> 00:25:41,920 because you know that they're there doing that anyway, and 474 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,720 they have the right to ask the question. Now if 475 00:25:44,759 --> 00:25:47,319 you don't respond, you don't necessarily have to respond, but 476 00:25:47,759 --> 00:25:50,359 then you know that that leads to other things. But yeah, 477 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,039 you law enforcement has the right to identify who you are. 478 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,799 Speaker 1: Right, And that's why right, And that's why these you know, 479 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,720 these uh how to you know, how to behave and 480 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,880 what to do if you get stopped by ice, these 481 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,440 these uh flyers that they're handing out and the you know, 482 00:26:07,519 --> 00:26:11,440 the the posts and stuff on social media's telling it's 483 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,839 advising them of their quote rights. And what they're telling 484 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,880 them is don't say anything. That's what they're they're advising 485 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,720 people not to say. These immigration attorneys and stuff, they're saying, 486 00:26:20,759 --> 00:26:24,319 don't tell them anything. Just don't speak. So when they 487 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:25,920 come up to you and they ask you the question, 488 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,640 you refuse to answer. Well, now like they're going to 489 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,079 start trying to figure out who you are, and now 490 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,160 you may end up getting detained. So it's like it's 491 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,599 still going to lead to if you're an illegal alien, 492 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,079 it's probably still going to lead to the same result 493 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,720 that you're going to get taken away. 494 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 3: Possible. 495 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, because if I ask you like who are you 496 00:26:44,519 --> 00:26:46,039 and you don't speak to me and you keep walking, 497 00:26:47,079 --> 00:26:50,279 there's a point where you have to it crosses a threshold. 498 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,720 But if you don't speak, then you don't necessarily have 499 00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:55,759 the right to detain up that point because really they'll 500 00:26:55,759 --> 00:26:58,640 not be entertained. It's like stopping frisk You roll up 501 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,279 on somebody, or let's say you got like a call 502 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,480 for a burglary or something, or a suspicious person. You 503 00:27:04,519 --> 00:27:06,079 pull up in a neighborhood and you see this person 504 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,160 wearing all black. You get out and say, hey, who 505 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,480 are you? You have the right to do that. Now, 506 00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:12,640 whether they respond or not, I mean, that's up to you. 507 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,640 But there are different avenues that you can go down 508 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,400 to do different things. But as far as I'm walking 509 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,079 up asking who you are, and that's not an attainment 510 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,359 that is just a stop it it's basically stop and 511 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:28,359 frisk policy. So now, and if you you just not say, 512 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,519 you know, I'm a US citizen whatever if you are, 513 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,599 because if you don't, that's that's another. 514 00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:34,759 Speaker 1: That's a felony. I learned today. It's a felony to 515 00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:36,279 say that you're a citizen when you're not. 516 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,039 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so you know, I dealt with people like 517 00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:43,680 with diplomatic community and stuff that we're here. You know 518 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,400 they wouldn't they were here legally, some un legally. So 519 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,279 you know, there's just different avenues. You ask certain questions 520 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,720 so that you know which direction to go down, right, Basically. 521 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I got you, Michael. I appreciate the insight. 522 00:27:55,559 --> 00:27:57,039 Thanks so much. Thanks for your service too. 523 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,319 Speaker 2: Well, thank you all. 524 00:27:58,279 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: Right, take care. Yeah, that's what I don't agree with John, 525 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,880 the previous caller there, John, about his assessment that that's 526 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,200 a Fourth Amendment violation. I don't believe that to be 527 00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:11,559 the case. They're allowed to ask you those questions. Now, 528 00:28:11,559 --> 00:28:15,680 how you respond, that's a different story. Let me do 529 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,359 this real quick because I only have a minute left 530 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,240 here before the newscast, and I have a bunch of 531 00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:21,720 people online. I got a ton of messages also, but 532 00:28:21,759 --> 00:28:26,079 I do want to finish. This story came from Fox 533 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,759 News about human trafficking, identifying North Carolina as number nine 534 00:28:29,799 --> 00:28:34,359 in the nation. Charlotte's the worst in the state due 535 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:39,240 to its interstate highway system, it's high demand for inexpensive labor, 536 00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:45,599 and increased amount of gang activity. That's why North Carolina 537 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,599 is now ranked number nine. And part of the reason 538 00:28:48,599 --> 00:28:52,559 why Charlotte is a trafficking hub is because of the 539 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,160 highway system and because of where we are located along 540 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,119 that system. Right we are along the eastern seaboard, and 541 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:05,359 we are between DC and Atlanta and Florida, and so 542 00:29:05,839 --> 00:29:09,799 any of those trafficking networks are going to roll through here, 543 00:29:09,839 --> 00:29:16,279 and so we are essentially a pit stop for human traffickers. 544 00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:20,680 The number of Charlotte residents falling victim to trafficking could 545 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,440 partially be attributed to the prevalence of gang activity within 546 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,359 the city, with criminal organizations maintaining a firm grip on 547 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,799 the area's network, primarily the Bloods. They have a huge 548 00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:35,240 stronghold in human trafficking. According to the experts quoted in 549 00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:38,160 the piece, they're one of the primary organized crime groups 550 00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:42,440 responsible for trafficking in Charlotte. Yeah, who said we weren't 551 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,920 world class? All right? That'll do it for this episode. 552 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,079 Thank you so much for listening. I could not do 553 00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:50,279 the show without your support and the support of the 554 00:29:50,279 --> 00:29:53,319 businesses that advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, 555 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,559 please support them too and tell them you heard it here. 556 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,240 You can also become a patron at my Patreon page 557 00:29:58,359 --> 00:30:01,240 or go to the Pete Calenders show dot com. Again, 558 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,039 thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything 559 00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:05,359 while I'm gone.