Speaker 1: Good job of exemplifying that two wednesdays ago. That's for sure,
Speaker 1: all right, I am coming through good. Yeah, super hot
Speaker 1: over here. But other than that, no, nothing you did.
Speaker 1: It's all on It's all on me.
Speaker 2: It's you.
Speaker 1: It's all I was going to do, Damien, I was
Speaker 1: going to do the omen, Damien, It's all for you.
Speaker 1: But and then she hangs herself. Yeah.
Speaker 2: In the seventies seventies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And they remade it with Leev Schreiber and
Speaker 1: actually wasn't terrible. It's almost like the exact same movie,
Speaker 1: but shot for shot pretty much there. There's a couple
Speaker 1: of things they added in there, and it's like a kid.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is basically the same, but like, no, no,
Speaker 1: it isn't right. All right, all right, cold open, cold open,
Speaker 1: cold open? Got it? All right? You ready?
Speaker 2: Fire away?
Speaker 1: All right. I'm back to be in the cenic bulky,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad about it because I was nervous that
Speaker 1: I was becoming the guy that was gonna love all
Speaker 1: of these movies but how to make a killing. Not
Speaker 1: gonna say I hated it. But we've returned, We've dabbled
Speaker 1: back in the mediocre again, which is kind of. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a refreshing feeling for me that I still
Speaker 1: can feel this way about something I.
Speaker 2: Don't understand, Like like, did you think, like we're gonna
Speaker 2: have three bangers in a row?
Speaker 1: I was nervous. Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know
Speaker 1: what to expect with this one, honestly, because it could
Speaker 1: have been. It reminded me of Roses in that it
Speaker 1: takes a pretty macab story but does it through like
Speaker 1: an almost comical lens, Like you don't ever feel sad
Speaker 1: when people.
Speaker 2: Had a mac There's people dying in Roses.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got to see this movie. Yeah you do? Yeah, yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: so so it's all awful people, Like, there's very few
Speaker 1: people in this movie that you're like, oh, outside of
Speaker 1: the love interest, the second love interest, outside of that person,
Speaker 1: there really isn't anybody you're rooting for.
Speaker 2: No. I I feel like you you were rooting for
Speaker 2: Glenn Powell's character, at least initially, and then he makes
Speaker 2: some choices. This is obviously how to make a killing.
Speaker 2: Ben already said that Glenn Powell ed Harris, Margaret Qualley,
Speaker 2: Jessica Henwick. Who else am I forgetting? That was in
Speaker 2: this movie feel like there's a oh Zach Woods.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So basically the gist of this movie is Glenn Powell
Speaker 2: is heir to a fortune. Now roughly, I don't know
Speaker 2: what would you say, it's well over.
Speaker 1: Fifty billion, yeah, I think that's around the.
Speaker 2: So. And but in order for him to claim this fortune,
Speaker 2: he's got to kill off seven relatives that are heirs
Speaker 2: before him. And why would he do this?
Speaker 1: What? What would provoke him to do this?
Speaker 2: Well, he was born to his mother who was the
Speaker 2: order of like the guy who controlled the fortune, right,
Speaker 2: So his grandfather and the daughter had him out of
Speaker 2: wedlock with some random cellist like just you know, and uh,
Speaker 2: basically the father said, you can have the kid or
Speaker 2: you cannot have the kid. But if you have the kid,
Speaker 2: you're not going to do it under this roof. And
Speaker 2: they sort of disowned her, and so he was not
Speaker 2: He grew up, you know, not poor, but not not
Speaker 2: as rich as as he should.
Speaker 1: It was relatively poor. She worked at a d M V.
Speaker 1: She I mean, but but I guess things go south
Speaker 1: pretty quickly. Yeah, pretty poor.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. But here's the thing, like, you know, he
Speaker 2: made there there was a scene in there where she
Speaker 2: she she basically made a point to try to live
Speaker 2: as close to the life he should have been living
Speaker 2: as as much. So a lot of the money that
Speaker 2: she got, I mean maybe she lived in poverty, but
Speaker 2: he like had nice clothes, he looked nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had an apartment.
Speaker 2: You know, I think, well, I'm just I'm just saying
Speaker 2: like outwardly, and he was like doing archery stuff, which
Speaker 2: is what rich people do. Yeah, so he he was
Speaker 2: still as close as much as she could.
Speaker 1: She gave him a you know, I was sitting there
Speaker 1: when Ed Helms was talking to her and says, uh Harris,
Speaker 1: ed Harris, Yeah, that would have been hilarious. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: Ed Harris is like, you can have the if you
Speaker 1: have this baby, you're not going to be doing it
Speaker 1: under this roof. And I'm sitting there and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, if the Titanic didn't sink, this is what
Speaker 1: would be happening to Jack and Rose right now. I've
Speaker 1: always found that movie ridiculous. It was like, the second
Speaker 1: that boat land, you're not marrying this guy. Get the
Speaker 1: hell out of here. You're eighteen. Don't tell me you're
Speaker 1: in love with this card Shark you get out of here,
Speaker 1: go marry Billy. He wasn't even a card shark. He
Speaker 1: just got lucky in a game of poker. Yeah, sure, sure, sure,
Speaker 1: well lucky. You guys can't see me now.
Speaker 2: I believe his character was from Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: Ben, Yeah, I don't even remember that he was, but
Speaker 1: I was sitting there and he was refreshing to see,
Speaker 1: like especially, And I don't want to come up off
Speaker 1: as sexist here, but I'm going to when it's rich
Speaker 1: woman and poor handsome dude. That never happens rich dude
Speaker 1: and super attractive poor woman. Maybe the inverse.
Speaker 2: No that you just mentioned Titanic, so it's happening.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm doing. But it wouldn't Like I always
Speaker 1: found that movie to be ridiculous. I'm like, if the
Speaker 1: Titanic didn't sink, this relationships is immediately over.
Speaker 2: There's got to be some other examples out there. I
Speaker 2: bet you there is. If I went, if we went,
Speaker 2: we asked, Gemini went on chat, I'm sure it could
Speaker 2: find some examples. Now, they might not be great examples,
Speaker 2: but you're right. I mean, rich Man, it's just the
Speaker 2: way the world works. It's like pretty woman versus Titanic,
Speaker 2: right yeah, you know, yes exactly, And there's a lot
Speaker 2: more pretty woman examples than there is Titanic.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And that's part of that's part of the systems.
Speaker 1: I understand that. But when I see it, I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: that's a bunch of bull crap. This kind of dabbled
Speaker 1: and they're like, no, this is probably the way that
Speaker 1: would play out if you're born to that kind of family, right,
Speaker 1: you know, I went to school with rich kids, not
Speaker 1: fifty billion dollars rich. Like there was a who was
Speaker 1: a friend of mine who his dad owned a company
Speaker 1: on a street that had the same last name as
Speaker 1: the dude I went to school with, so like he
Speaker 1: was working at his company, so the companies, it was
Speaker 1: like if his last name were Smith, he was on
Speaker 1: Smith Street. Oh wow, yeah wow, only it's not that
Speaker 1: common of a name like this very much was their street.
Speaker 1: And we were good friends in college, and the second
Speaker 1: we graduated, that person disappeared. And that's more the way.
Speaker 2: He disappears, just another family business.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the yachts and and that life. And I'm
Speaker 1: here with you now, you know, that's that's just whish
Speaker 1: got it better than best that's what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: so I always see that in movies. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: that probably wouldn't play out that way, and sure enough,
Speaker 1: this this that's kind of the impetus of this, the
Speaker 1: jealousy of like, I need to get back to that.
Speaker 1: I want that, I'm owed this, and I want okach
Speaker 1: like I'm here for that.
Speaker 2: All right, So so that this is a good point,
Speaker 2: and there's a lot unpack with this. I want to
Speaker 2: get to that point number one. But before you get
Speaker 2: that quick precursor, the Ed Harris scene early on, did
Speaker 2: you know that was Ed Harrison?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but only because I saw the casting. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have Okay, probably.
Speaker 2: I mean I looked at the casting a few days
Speaker 2: before I saw it, and I forgot he was in it,
Speaker 2: and I didn't I didn't even realize it was him
Speaker 2: until I was looking at my phone at the cast
Speaker 2: during it. I'm like, oh, I haven't seen Ed Harris yet.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, I bet that was him. And then there's
Speaker 2: you know, so anyway, not the point. All right, let's
Speaker 2: get into this. Beckett red Fellow Fellow is Glenn Powell's
Speaker 2: character Beckett red Fellow never knew wealth he grew up
Speaker 2: in poverty, yea, and yet he was promised this fortune
Speaker 2: by his mother. You know she what was the overarching theme?
Speaker 2: She wanted him to lead the right life?
Speaker 1: Wasn't it something like that should have lived for something
Speaker 1: to that effect. They only said it like eighteen thousand times.
Speaker 1: We should we should know.
Speaker 2: But that's basically what she said to him in one
Speaker 2: of their conversations. Not gonna spoil anything here, and and
Speaker 2: that's all I always sort of been into the back
Speaker 2: of his head. Now you bring up the jealousy aspect,
Speaker 2: and I guess that could be true. But if you've
Speaker 2: never been wealthy, do you really know what it's like?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Do you really know what you're missing? In other words,
Speaker 2: think of the Walking Dead that universe when second generation
Speaker 2: was being born into the zombie apocalypse. They don't know
Speaker 2: computers and television like they never experienced it before. So
Speaker 2: can you really be motivated by something that you've never experienced,
Speaker 2: that you've never known to you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Oh that's real. If you gave me three billion dollars,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, I'd still be eating little
Speaker 1: Caesars and drinking frenzy of wine. You know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be bying fancy. I'm not a fancy man
Speaker 1: because I wasn't raised on fancy things. Like I like
Speaker 1: the cheap stuff Hamburger helper. To me, it's not a
Speaker 1: matter of of it's all I can have. It's a
Speaker 1: matter of no, this is, this is good, this is
Speaker 1: I don't need more than that.
Speaker 2: And I think, and I don't know, maybe you can
Speaker 2: remind me what the catalyst was. But he had a
Speaker 2: decent job, uh, live by himself and didn't look like
Speaker 2: squalor didn't look like he was very rich.
Speaker 1: It looks sad.
Speaker 2: It looks sad, but I mean I think it looks
Speaker 2: sad because it was it was just him. He didn't
Speaker 2: have a wife and you have kids whatever. And like how
Speaker 2: old is he supposed to be in this movie? Probably
Speaker 2: around like he was born in ninety three. I think
Speaker 2: if we look at that family tree, oh.
Speaker 1: I don't even realize. I know, because I've looked it
Speaker 1: up in real life, he's thirty eighty eight. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is thirty three in the movie.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I guess at that point, a lot of people,
Speaker 2: I should say, a lot of people, but a decent
Speaker 2: amount of people have a wife.
Speaker 1: Have kids.
Speaker 2: You could say that. You could say that, yeah, thirty three. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Sometimes it's it's different. Well I guess
Speaker 2: you're fright herself, but it's different for everyone. So okay,
Speaker 2: So well, okay, I mean you live alone? Yeah right,
Speaker 2: I mean is it sad for you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's the framing of it. It's when they
Speaker 1: had him. There was a scene when he was in
Speaker 1: the dark on a couch in his duplex, and I
Speaker 1: was like, ah, now, if life weren't go like I
Speaker 1: look forward to coming here, I look forward to doing
Speaker 1: this with you every week. I look forward to doing
Speaker 1: my show every day. If I were selling suits and
Speaker 1: had the life I lived, I'd be like, well, I
Speaker 1: feel like the movie probably would have hit in a
Speaker 1: different way for sure. And he's just like Wayward, He's like,
Speaker 1: I should have more, it should be fancier. And of
Speaker 1: course you said you don't remember the impetus to dollus.
Speaker 1: It was that jerk Margaret quality seeing her kind of
Speaker 1: like reminded, don't reveal that. Well, no, you said, I
Speaker 1: thought you. I didn't realize you were being coy, But
Speaker 1: like that's kind of what kicks his ass and gear
Speaker 1: like he sees her and so that's what it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and she's just like she was money.
Speaker 2: This is okay, so we don't need to get into yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: but but okay, So that was the catalyst where when
Speaker 2: he sees how she's living, she married somebody rich.
Speaker 1: She makes some offhand like when you get that fortune,
Speaker 1: reach out to me again, or's something to that effect.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm pretty sure that's in the trailer. She's
Speaker 1: just like, well, let me know when you inherit that fortune,
Speaker 1: and that kind of lights the fire under him and
Speaker 1: he goes from there.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we have to talk about the first murder.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is in the trailer. So I'm not even
Speaker 1: always about, not even worried about talking about.
Speaker 2: Well okay, but the way it's framed, it's kind of
Speaker 2: like he wasn't sure if he was going to do
Speaker 2: it or not. Yeah, he was right there and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden something happens and it happens. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And was it just that little impetus that put him
Speaker 2: over the edge of like, hey, I can do this,
Speaker 2: I can get away with it.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know this from firsthand experienced bulky.
Speaker 1: But I've heard your first one is the hardest one,
Speaker 1: and once you do it once, like movies, yeah, becomes
Speaker 1: easier and easier. Yeah, it's like a thousand movies that
Speaker 1: have said that before, and so based on that and
Speaker 1: only that, it seems like once you've done it once,
Speaker 1: it's like, well, I've done it once, I can probably
Speaker 1: do it seven more times. I will only have to
Speaker 1: do it six more times. Oh yeah, good point. Oh.
Speaker 2: Bill camp is in this movie, by the way, great actor.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, he does a great job in this for sure.
Speaker 1: But to me, it was strange. I'm interested, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to take this in too many different angles here.
Speaker 1: If you have more to say about that murder, let's
Speaker 1: go there. But I do want to say like, this
Speaker 1: movie was framed in a very strange way.
Speaker 2: Okay, let go ahead. I want to get to the framing.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the murders right away. These characters are meant,
Speaker 2: at least I think, are meant to be very unredeeming,
Speaker 2: very unlikable characters. Okay, and yet the decision that Beckett
Speaker 2: makes is to actually befriend them.
Speaker 1: Okay, you took it exactly where I wanted to.
Speaker 2: Yes, he's befriending him, he's getting involved in their lives.
Speaker 2: He's even telling them, hey, I'm your cousin. Yeah, a
Speaker 2: very bizarre choice because the closer you get to somebody
Speaker 2: and the more you human you know that that's the
Speaker 2: whole say say their names thing. When these people die,
Speaker 2: you know, it's always like say their name, say their name,
Speaker 2: because if you don't say their name, if you don't
Speaker 2: humanize it, then it's easier to handle, which is what
Speaker 2: you would want if you're trying to murder these people.
Speaker 2: But he went the opposite angle.
Speaker 1: You know, to me, tell me if this is off base.
Speaker 1: This felt like a much less intelligent American psycho. Is
Speaker 1: that the one with Christian Bale? Yeah, it's uh because
Speaker 1: they emphasize that killing people is bad. But there's almost
Speaker 1: like a satirical element to this entire movie, where like
Speaker 1: he does befriend people, he goes to dinner with people,
Speaker 1: he gets to know people, he goes to parties with people,
Speaker 1: and then he goes and kills him and he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: well that I can't believe I got away with this.
Speaker 1: And it's a very similar vibe to American psycho.
Speaker 2: The major difference is of what Christian Baleist motivation is
Speaker 2: for killing and then what.
Speaker 1: What was the motivation killing?
Speaker 2: Just killing?
Speaker 1: Okay, killing for killing sake, but it was element of progression.
Speaker 1: It was activity, thrill crill thrill kill is what they are.
Speaker 2: It was thrill killing for him if if do you
Speaker 2: think that Beckett Redfellow, Yeah, do you think he'd just
Speaker 2: be thrill killing? He doesn't strike me as the person
Speaker 2: who would be doing that. He was doing it.
Speaker 1: It was very purposeful what he was doing, but not
Speaker 1: the plot. I guess it was almost like, I don't
Speaker 1: know how to this. It's like every character was almost
Speaker 1: like a facsimile of a person instead of a real person.
Speaker 1: There was no character development, There was no character growth.
Speaker 1: I was never confused about who people were and why
Speaker 1: they sucked and why things were happening, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Which is the same way to me. It
Speaker 1: just felt like it was a vapid Is that the
Speaker 1: word I'm trying. I don't know what word I'm trying
Speaker 1: to use to describe how all the characters felt in this,
Speaker 1: but like it almost felt like people would die and
Speaker 1: it was almost weightless, like it didn't.
Speaker 2: Matter because it was it was not a facade.
Speaker 1: It was a satire.
Speaker 2: They weren't Now, it wasn't satire. It just wasn't real.
Speaker 2: These these people were were barely even caricatures of themselves.
Speaker 2: They weren't they they were Well maybe that maybe that's
Speaker 2: what it was. They were caricatures. There's no like you said,
Speaker 2: there's no development behind.
Speaker 1: There's the rich artist, there's the guy who didn't have.
Speaker 2: The who was you know, kind of a douche, right,
Speaker 2: there was the first guy, the rich young frack guy,
Speaker 2: mega douche. Yeah, and then you had the pastor douche
Speaker 2: right yeah, with to for grace. It was like sort
Speaker 2: of like this tvangelist. Yeah, and and I thought that
Speaker 2: that had to be a fun character to play. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: he's only basically in like one scene.
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys only knock it out for
Speaker 1: about ten minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So anyway, I thought that was interesting. Now let's
Speaker 2: get into the actual motivation for this. If you were
Speaker 2: in this situation where you had seven people in front
Speaker 2: of you for this inheritance, seven people you've never met.
Speaker 2: This only story you've been told about these people in
Speaker 2: this family was that they disowned your mother. Your mother. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and now it seemed like he was okay. It seemed
Speaker 2: like he was okay living this out. They show him
Speaker 2: like checking oh bits to see what's going on with
Speaker 2: the family. But honestly, some of these guys are younger
Speaker 2: than him. There's you know, for all intentsive purposes, he's
Speaker 2: never gonna see this portune. Yeah, you know, and living
Speaker 2: the life that he did. I think maybe I'm just
Speaker 2: a coward. Not that you need to be, you know,
Speaker 2: it's courageous to murder, but I would have been like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a lot. I've been cast I'm good with that.
Speaker 2: To me, Like the Margaret quality thing, Yeah, would not
Speaker 2: have been enough to put me over the edge.
Speaker 1: No, and I'd even take it a step further. It's
Speaker 1: almost like I don't have a survival instinct. I think
Speaker 1: about this all the time. But like if I were
Speaker 1: in Hunger Games, I don't know if I could kill
Speaker 1: other people.
Speaker 2: Let alone in Hunger Games.
Speaker 1: That's what I understand, man, I understand the premise to
Speaker 1: the movie. I'd be sitting there be like, guys, let's
Speaker 1: see if we can just get outside of this freaking
Speaker 1: blue sphere thing and figure this all out in another way,
Speaker 1: like I don't have that gene. I watch all the
Speaker 1: Saw movies and I'm sitting there and there are two
Speaker 1: people fighting in some kind of one of them isn't
Speaker 1: going to get out of it. I'd be like, ah,
Speaker 1: dang it, I just don't have that gene, okay, And
Speaker 1: it's not who I am. I'm fortunate to be born
Speaker 1: at a time of civilized society because I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be. Evolution was supposed to knock people
Speaker 1: like me out of the process, because like, there's a
Speaker 1: cold day in hell, and I disdain wealthy people, and
Speaker 1: I couldn't for a second do something like that to somebody.
Speaker 1: And it's not me pedestal, and it's just the real person.
Speaker 2: I am a bit of background on this film. I
Speaker 2: believe it was based on a book you can tell,
Speaker 2: I could tell. And then I think, and I don't
Speaker 2: quote me on this, I think it was made in
Speaker 2: Japan or Oh. I believe that some foreign market made
Speaker 2: a version of this. And then I also read that
Speaker 2: this script sat two years ago on the what's called
Speaker 2: the Blacklist?
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of the Blacklist? Ben? I can
Speaker 1: I can speculate but I don't think i've.
Speaker 2: Heard it well basically what I've never heard of it before. Yeah,
Speaker 2: But but basically what it is is it's a list
Speaker 2: of scripts that sit dormant in Hollywood, and the blacklist
Speaker 2: is sort of like the krem de la creme of
Speaker 2: all those like all the best scripts that have not
Speaker 2: been utilized yet.
Speaker 1: Right has put some star power behind it.
Speaker 2: And See came out. He was an executive producer on
Speaker 2: this film as well, So like this, this is a big.
Speaker 1: Get some box office numbers.
Speaker 2: While you're talking now speaking of Glenn Powell, Okay, do
Speaker 2: you believe? And I read one I read a review
Speaker 2: of this film after I saw it, and I think
Speaker 2: the reviewer hit it on the head. Do you think
Speaker 2: Glenn Powell was miscasting?
Speaker 1: I do? I do. I I don't think this is
Speaker 1: the type of person that he is. And more importantly, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's not the type of I don't know what type of.
Speaker 1: Person character he plays. I should say.
Speaker 2: Exactly, like, now, maybe he doesn't want to get because
Speaker 2: his career is kind of launching right now. Sure, maybe
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to get type cast and he wants
Speaker 2: to play these these different you know, but even watching this,
Speaker 2: I just I'm rooting for him. I'm not rooting for him.
Speaker 2: I'm rooting for him. He's a hero. He's an anti hero. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's not even an anti hero. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know who the younger version of this would
Speaker 1: be that would work. But this role is for Edward Norton,
Speaker 1: Like you have to be kind of smug. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: Glenn Powell doesn't have a Do you think Edward more Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I think it. Norton sucks like cats,
Speaker 1: he's a phenomenal actor. I think he's a he's a jag.
Speaker 2: What.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I'd like, Like, that's my lens
Speaker 1: through which I look at life. I'm like, would I
Speaker 1: get along with that person in high school? Me and
Speaker 1: Edward Norton heads?
Speaker 2: Okay, well what about Edward Hulker Edward.
Speaker 1: Norton, he seems miserable. Why do you think they didn't
Speaker 1: invite him back to do any of the other marvels.
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened because he sucks. I don't
Speaker 2: think he sucks.
Speaker 1: Oh he was great, he was great at it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he'd like show up. He'd be like, hey, I
Speaker 1: have a picture, go up to Kevin Foggy being like,
Speaker 1: I think this should be happy with my character. It's like, bro,
Speaker 1: I have a twenty year player, all right, I don't
Speaker 1: care what So that's so he.
Speaker 2: Just became that like difficult to work with.
Speaker 1: Like in Wonder Man when he gets taken off of
Speaker 1: American Horse. Oh yeah, that's what I envisioned Edward Norton
Speaker 1: being like.
Speaker 2: And there's just like I could just feel like, you.
Speaker 1: Know, if you were if he you were his waiter
Speaker 1: at a restaurant, you got his order wrong, like keep
Speaker 1: being an ass, like I bet where's Glenn pal would
Speaker 1: be like a mistakes happened, but don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: That's how the problem was. I think. I think the
Speaker 2: whole idea was to actually identify with this character and
Speaker 2: root for this maybe maybe and Edward, I think about
Speaker 2: what he did Rounders, Uh the jat was it not
Speaker 2: the Jackal? What was the the heist or what rage? No?
Speaker 1: Primal fear fear?
Speaker 2: Yes, obviously that's another good one. Rich the Italian Italian job. No,
Speaker 2: there's one year he did with de Niro or it's
Speaker 2: like called the heist. It was Marlon Brando Angela Bassett,
Speaker 2: Edward Norton, Robert de Niro, and basically they these these
Speaker 2: this one old you know, criminal that's trying to retire.
Speaker 2: De Niro he gets this one last job and he's
Speaker 2: got to work with Edward Norton on it. And Edward Norton,
Speaker 2: I mean, like he's the total smarmy, a whole type
Speaker 2: that you gotta Okay, don't do it now, but if
Speaker 2: you've never seen.
Speaker 1: That, I'll check it out.
Speaker 2: You'll love it. I mean, it's a it's a heist movie.
Speaker 2: It's De Niro's great, Marlon Brando's solid, and Edward Norton.
Speaker 1: And for the record, I love Edward Norton for his craft.
Speaker 1: I just think he's a bit of a prick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, but you don't know in real life being
Speaker 2: a super nice guy. But I just don't think. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'll give you an another example. You know this television
Speaker 2: show Jury Duty. No, Okay, So so there is this
Speaker 2: I'll go I'll go all the way back to the start.
Speaker 2: In the nineties. There's this movie called The Joe Schmoe.
Speaker 1: Show that I remember.
Speaker 2: Jerry Duty was a spin off of that. Basically a
Speaker 2: Joe Schmoe Show but it was called Jerry Duty, got it.
Speaker 2: So James Marsden played this total a hole juror in this,
Speaker 2: you know, and and he's playing himself. He was playing
Speaker 2: himself on this jury, right. And then I was watching
Speaker 2: an interview with the guy who was sort of the
Speaker 2: schmo in this who didn't know it was all fake.
Speaker 2: And he was saying afterwards because then you know, people
Speaker 2: are trying to interview him. He's being recognized, and and
Speaker 2: he texted James Marsden just like, hey, how do I
Speaker 2: sort of handle this? And I think Marsden has that
Speaker 2: look of being just an a hole? Yeah, realize, And
Speaker 2: he said Marsden could not be more nice. He didn't
Speaker 2: text me back. He called me back right away. Forty
Speaker 2: minute phone call. We're doing. And like if there were
Speaker 2: several of them like it, So it seems like Marsden
Speaker 2: although he looks like the type of guy that you're like,
Speaker 2: oh he's he's the type of person in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: I never thought that about James Marsden though, that never
Speaker 1: crossed my mind.
Speaker 2: He look, he doesn't give you that look. Peter Fastinelle,
Speaker 2: you know, Peter Fastenelli is from uh He's married to
Speaker 2: Jenny Garth he was. He was in the Twilight movies.
Speaker 2: He was the you remember can't hardly wait? Yeah, from
Speaker 2: he was like the the a hole Jocko. That's another
Speaker 2: guy who looks like But I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know these guys in real life, you know,
Speaker 2: a flip side. Maybe Tom Hanks is an a hole. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Absolutely, I don't he is, but he
Speaker 2: might be.
Speaker 1: I could do an entire episode about this is Tom
Speaker 1: Cruise because Tom Cruise can act like such a normal guy,
Speaker 1: but he's also can be an asked and.
Speaker 2: I don't know where Cruise. I don't blame Tom Cruise
Speaker 2: for this because I think and like, I'm not a doctor, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I think he was born with some sort of
Speaker 2: chemical imbalance in his head. Yeah, maybe that that hit
Speaker 2: that that provokes him to do things that normal, regular
Speaker 2: human beings like you and I would not do. Maybe
Speaker 2: whether it's romance, relationships, working relationships, social anxiety that I
Speaker 2: think he might have. Uh, and then uh, the whole
Speaker 2: stunt thing. I mean, my god, I told you about
Speaker 2: the ten minute video. H Like I I even I
Speaker 2: still watch that two or three times a year, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, how is one How how is this person
Speaker 2: with everything to losing nothing to gain from this? Why
Speaker 2: is he putting in the effort and the time into
Speaker 2: this when he doesn't have to. He could be doing
Speaker 2: other things, more enjoyable things, quite frankly, maybe more rewarding things.
Speaker 2: But to him, this is rewarding. To him, he feels
Speaker 2: like here's a chemical imbalance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he could be. But I say all that
Speaker 1: to say Glenn Powell doesn't let's bring it. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: rubs me as a he doesn't rub me the wrong way,
Speaker 1: like I feel like he's fine, might be a little arrogant,
Speaker 1: but overall.
Speaker 2: And by the way, this way is super arrogant and
Speaker 2: top gun Mavericke.
Speaker 1: Sure, obviously he's bombing, by the way in this it's
Speaker 1: just absolutely bombing. I looked it up with financially okay
Speaker 1: to stake your reputation to it's six point two million
Speaker 1: in two weekends versus a fifteen million dollar budget, which
Speaker 1: I did find myself asking the questions similar to Caught Stealing,
Speaker 1: which is one of our first episodes of this show,
Speaker 1: because the cast it was just a lister after a
Speaker 1: list after a lister, and you and I even mentioned
Speaker 1: who does this director know that he can get all
Speaker 1: these people to commit to such a generic plot and movie,
Speaker 1: And I felt a similar feeling watching this until I
Speaker 1: just learned that Glenn Powell was an executive producer and
Speaker 1: maybe like some people were just like, oh, yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: throw you a bone. Let's see if we can get
Speaker 1: this guy. I mean, you only need me for two
Speaker 1: days to film because my role is so tiny in
Speaker 1: this movie, because it reminded me like a nineties Jim
Speaker 1: Carrey movie. Like if Jim Carrey was in a movie
Speaker 1: in the nineties, every scene had Jim Carrey in it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like it was a vehicle for Jim Carrey and everybody
Speaker 1: else was just window dressing. That's how I felt watching this.
Speaker 1: It was who is Glenn Powell going to interact with
Speaker 1: in this scene? And that was kind of how it
Speaker 1: was wired. This was his and it's a ballsy move
Speaker 1: because when it bombs like this, other studios take notice,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, if this happens two or
Speaker 1: three times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he did the Sydney Sweeney movie that I
Speaker 2: guess was a bomb any like anyone, but you I
Speaker 2: think it was called it was like this romantic comedy
Speaker 2: where these two people hate each other and they're there
Speaker 2: for like their their their friends. Oh yeah, I never
Speaker 2: saw it either, but I remember like it got really
Speaker 2: bad reviews on that too, and Sidney Sweeney too. I mean,
Speaker 2: like you'd think, like Glenn Powell and Sidney Sweeny, how
Speaker 2: could this go wrong?
Speaker 1: It? Did you know?
Speaker 2: This is?
Speaker 1: This is actually uh kind of a claim to fame
Speaker 1: of mine. But I don't know that I've seen Sidney
Speaker 1: Sweeney in anything.
Speaker 2: She was in this movie called And You Have, by
Speaker 2: the way, I can't remember what it was called, but
Speaker 2: her and her boyfriend end up being I might be
Speaker 2: called the Voyeurs or something. But her and her boyfriend
Speaker 2: live in this high rise and they see this other
Speaker 2: high rise across the street, and these two people like
Speaker 2: boyfriend girlfriend are having sex with people, but then they're
Speaker 2: also killing people at the Oh. So she was she
Speaker 2: was she was in Once upon a Time in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, she was in that. She was in
Speaker 1: Madam Web Madam Webb. She was another bomb by the way,
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, no, and like she what's thew is
Speaker 1: she and Euphorias are claiming she is she in Handmaid's Tailor. No, no, don't, okay,
Speaker 1: I never have seen either of those.
Speaker 2: Well, she's in what's it? There's one? There's like there's
Speaker 2: something called the The Maid, the Housemaid.
Speaker 1: I think, as well, yeah that when that's free, I'll
Speaker 1: check that out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess it's based on a series of books.
Speaker 1: Okay, I had no idea, but it seems strange and
Speaker 1: that's good enough for me. Like, and what's her name,
Speaker 1: Amanda Sigfried or whatever her name is? Yes, look like
Speaker 1: I was like, is that Sydney Sweeney playing two different characters?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, Yeah, that's another woman who I thought her
Speaker 2: career is kind of taking off and now it's kind
Speaker 2: of stagnated a little. Yeah, I would say.
Speaker 1: I had some thoughts on that, but it's not for
Speaker 1: it's not for off topic. I can tell you that, right.
Speaker 2: That's fine. So Glenn Powell, we can agree with miscast.
Speaker 2: But now I mean, I bring up the executive producer.
Speaker 2: It makes sense I think wanted to take Yeah, which
Speaker 2: makes sense, okay.
Speaker 1: And good for him for betting the money he's made
Speaker 1: on it, Like, and you're not he's taking quite the
Speaker 1: l but I'm sure he wasn't the only one putting
Speaker 1: money up, so you know, lose a couple million. That's
Speaker 1: honestly my dream in life. Kevin Smith made Clerks, made
Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars on Clerks. Every movie other than Jay
Speaker 1: and Silent Bob strike Back since then has lost money.
Speaker 1: He's making movies that he wants to make with his friends.
Speaker 1: Well he's getting funding for it. I mean, it's not
Speaker 1: like it's his dime. It sometimes it is. Sometimes it's
Speaker 1: part doing freaking Tusk with Justin Long or your Tusk
Speaker 1: and then I wasn't a Red State that he did.
Speaker 1: That was another big that he was in there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and he gets these people to come on like I
Speaker 1: would love to be doing that rather than a bunch
Speaker 1: of you know, be beholden to block like what Glenn
Speaker 1: Powell the path that he could be on. You know,
Speaker 1: Cass is an a list actor doing you know schlock
Speaker 1: that you and I will I'm sure love, yeah, but
Speaker 1: not necessarily if you're in an artiste wouldn't necessarily want
Speaker 1: to be doing so good for him, But this one
Speaker 1: it didn't feel like the right fit for him. But
Speaker 1: you got to take risks, you do.
Speaker 2: I mean, Jim Carrey number twenty three, Right right, you
Speaker 2: got Truman Show, Will Ferrell, Stranger than Fiction. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was another one. Everything must go.
Speaker 1: I didn't hate Stranger Than Fiction, and I.
Speaker 2: Don't think most people hate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought I thought it was forgettable, but I was like, yeah, fine.
Speaker 2: It never really bordered on cult classic, but I think
Speaker 2: most people watched it thought it was fine. Margaret Qually
Speaker 2: is a character that I think when I look back
Speaker 2: on the stuff that she's done that I've known that
Speaker 2: she's done. I mean, I know she's done other stuff,
Speaker 2: I think she might be getting type cast a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and now she is the real life daughter of Andy mcdell.
Speaker 2: You remember Andy mcdell from Groundhog Days on and so forth.
Speaker 2: The eyebrows, I think give off a like the bit
Speaker 2: I think the menacing, the bigger your eyebrows are, the
Speaker 2: more like you're meant to be, like the villain Peter
Speaker 2: Gallagher on the OC right, and I believe wasn't he
Speaker 2: Wasn't he also the guy that was banging a Net
Speaker 2: Benning in American Beauty, Like yeah, like she was committing
Speaker 2: adulter at this guy. Like he's portrayed as this like
Speaker 2: overbearing in both those not overbearing, but he's portrayed as
Speaker 2: this not likable person. And I guess towards the end
Speaker 2: of the OC, and I didn't watch a whole lot
Speaker 2: of the OC, but I guess towards.
Speaker 1: The end he became more of a redeeming character. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Anyway, it's not the point.
Speaker 1: But to your point, I do want to say nothing
Speaker 1: about what actually happens in the movie. I'm saying me Ben,
Speaker 1: watching the trailer. To your point about Margaret Qualley, I'm
Speaker 1: just watching the trailer. Yeah, when you pitch the movie
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there watching, like, yeah, okay, I can
Speaker 1: get behind this. And I'm sitting there and I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's going to turn out that she sets him up
Speaker 1: for failure, Like that was just based on her look
Speaker 1: in the trailer. I was sitting there and I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: she's going to turn out to be the bad guy.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's what happens. I'm saying watching the trailer,
Speaker 1: the look that she gave me. Immediately in the back
Speaker 1: of my mind, I'm like, the big twist is going
Speaker 1: to be she was behind everything, right, and like that's
Speaker 1: just how she looks. I don't know what it is, Well, you.
Speaker 2: Trim up those eyebrows and you might get a heroine role,
Speaker 2: you know. And what now I think about the other
Speaker 2: stuff that I know that she's done. She was kind,
Speaker 2: She was she also actually, now I think about it,
Speaker 2: she was in Once upon a Time in Hollywood too,
Speaker 2: because she was the one who was like the underage
Speaker 2: girl that Brad Pitt picked up hitch hiking and she
Speaker 2: brought so she kind of like opened Brad Pitt up
Speaker 2: to all this, you know what could have been pain
Speaker 2: getting the whole ranch against him, you know, and she
Speaker 2: was kind of like, you don't know how to feel
Speaker 2: about this character? Is she, you know, trying to trap
Speaker 2: this guy and and claim rape or what? You know
Speaker 2: what I mean? And then the substance did you ever
Speaker 2: see this?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, have I ever seen the substance?
Speaker 2: She was as well?
Speaker 1: And I think she had almost five full lines in that.
Speaker 2: Oh so she wasn't in it that?
Speaker 1: Oh no, she was, but they did. Have you not
Speaker 1: seen it?
Speaker 2: No? I have not.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's a metaphor, but basically all the
Speaker 1: lines are when basically her and to me more to me,
Speaker 1: Moore are the same person. She's the younger version that
Speaker 1: comes out of her. And when Margaret Quality's on stage,
Speaker 1: it's boobs and butts and dancing and partying and drugs,
Speaker 1: and then the character growth and the intellect and the
Speaker 1: dialogue is all when it's to me more, Margaret Quality
Speaker 1: really doesn't say much in the movie's.
Speaker 2: She's not portrayed in a likable Oh no, exactly, no.
Speaker 2: Now the only now, the only one I can think of.
Speaker 2: And Ben, I don't know if you've seen this movie,
Speaker 2: but it is. And I could say I wasn't gonna
Speaker 2: say this, but now that I think about it, this
Speaker 2: is one of my favorite movies of all time. Hu
Speaker 2: is the Nice Guys with Russell Crow and Ryan Gosling
Speaker 2: underrated by her for absolutely can I mean, I have
Speaker 2: to what's her name from Spider Man's in it too,
Speaker 2: and Gory Rice. She is phenomenal and she's like fourteen
Speaker 2: or whatever. In it you have all these weird characters.
Speaker 2: Keith David's in it is well gozz like but by
Speaker 2: the way, shout out to Goz like this is gonna
Speaker 2: be a great SNL. It's Gosling Week on SNL and he,
Speaker 2: I mean, just the stuff that he puts out. He
Speaker 2: is such he's so good looking, and people just think
Speaker 2: he can't do comedy. He is a comedic genius. Is
Speaker 2: he's so good at comedy. I watched SNL this past
Speaker 2: week Connor Story hosted. You know Connor Story is.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: There is an HBO Max show that's still in season
Speaker 2: one or maybe season one just got done called Heated
Speaker 2: Rivalry about these.
Speaker 1: Two familiar with that?
Speaker 2: Okay, so he's one of the stars and yeah, so
Speaker 2: I'm just kind of like, you know, when he's hosting,
Speaker 2: like I have low expected he was great, and you know,
Speaker 2: like the comedy now you.
Speaker 1: Have the elevated expectations with Gossling though, so.
Speaker 2: You got it well, but listen, like he has hosted
Speaker 2: several times. In fact, he might be joining the five
Speaker 2: Timers club this week. I don't know, but there, you know,
Speaker 2: once you have this great episode, it's tough to live
Speaker 2: up to it, but you do have. Usually when you
Speaker 2: come back, you'll have one or two sketches that are like, oh,
Speaker 2: that was dynamite. Yeah, you know, like you'll you know,
Speaker 2: and I don't know what his you know, like his
Speaker 2: first time hosting or whatever, but they SNL makes a
Speaker 2: big deal out of it when Goslin.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, well one of the most I don't even
Speaker 1: watch SNL regularly, and I know the one or the
Speaker 1: him when the alien subduct.
Speaker 2: Was okay, but that's not a Gosling vehicle. That is
Speaker 2: a Kate mckinnac vehicle, and that's a recurring thing. But
Speaker 2: he was great in that they did this this other
Speaker 2: Italian food a thing that that they did it once
Speaker 2: with Adam Driver, who's also another underrated host, but when
Speaker 2: Gosling did it. Basically it's like a taste test and
Speaker 2: you think you're having this great Italian food and then
Speaker 2: they reveal, oh, it's actually Pizza Hut's new Pasta Pikes,
Speaker 2: and then Gosling and Cecily Strong go off on the
Speaker 2: guy like how could you do this to us? You know,
Speaker 2: Farley did it back in the day with like, oh,
Speaker 2: you're not drinking coffee, you're drinking senca or whatever, and
Speaker 2: then he loses. So that's another great one. They did
Speaker 2: another one where him and Vanessa Bayer are believe Santa
Speaker 2: is real. They're an adult Hollywood holiday party and they
Speaker 2: think I could go off on this because there's so
Speaker 2: much good stuff with with Gosling on that.
Speaker 1: So what did the other guys have to do with
Speaker 1: this movie?
Speaker 2: Okay, Margaret Qualley is and the other guys as well.
Speaker 2: Now she plays this kind of like Damsel in Distress
Speaker 2: type character, but then you find out like she was
Speaker 2: kind of like shooting porn and and she was like
Speaker 2: this very granola liberal anti and she she was on
Speaker 2: the portrayed as on the good guy's side, but she
Speaker 2: kind of like you don't really like you know she
Speaker 2: she doesn't. She makes some choices in that where in
Speaker 2: that movie her character does that, You're like, why would
Speaker 2: she do this? She's screwing everything up. So even then
Speaker 2: where she's this damn Damsel and just just stress character,
Speaker 2: you kind of like don't like her. You have at
Speaker 2: least party you doesn't like her. And it goes back
Speaker 2: to the eyebrows. I just think like you can't have big, thick,
Speaker 2: luscious eyebrows like that and expect to be treated as like, ah, man,
Speaker 2: she like I love this character. Good actor. Yeah, same
Speaker 2: thing with Edward Norton.
Speaker 1: Right, but you gotta look and again redeeming character, and
Speaker 1: you can't cast that kind of person in a movie
Speaker 1: that you're intending to be twisty, or if you are,
Speaker 1: then you gotta subvert, you know what I mean. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: she was pretty off putting most of the movie. Like
Speaker 1: anytime she came up, you're like, oh, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2: Well, even like when they were the flashback when they
Speaker 2: were young, right, But then but then you know, she's like,
Speaker 2: oh she she says something to the effect of like, oh,
Speaker 2: you live in a poor neighborhood or something like that,
Speaker 2: and then and then he doesn't answer, and she's like,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't care. Yeah, and then you're kind
Speaker 2: of like, okay, well, what's you know.
Speaker 1: It's a little tragic that that back and forth. It's
Speaker 1: probably the most complex thing in the entire movie.
Speaker 2: I wonder how many attractive girls when he was that
Speaker 2: age growing up, how many attractive girls because he probably
Speaker 2: had that stigma Oh sure, because I assume he went
Speaker 2: to a good school because that's what his mom was
Speaker 2: working so hard for. How many girls like treated him
Speaker 2: the way that she did, where she's like yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Don't care, Yeah, you know, that's fair.
Speaker 2: And then you're kind of thinking the whole movie, you know,
Speaker 2: because then she comes back into his life, and then
Speaker 2: there's a twist with her, and then there's like another
Speaker 2: massive twist in the story which I didn't see coming.
Speaker 2: Did you see the twist coming with her husband?
Speaker 1: No? No, Yeah, I didn't see that coming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And quite frankly, I probably should have picked up
Speaker 2: on more of what she was going to be in
Speaker 2: this movie, and I didn't. Yeah, until like the end,
Speaker 2: I can kind of see what's going on the other
Speaker 2: thing too. Have you ever felt like his character you
Speaker 2: start off innocent enough. This is Glenn Powell's character. Start
Speaker 2: off innocent enough, but then you make one decision, and
Speaker 2: then you make another decision, and then you make another decision,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you're kind of like I
Speaker 2: think I said this on your show. You're balancing all
Speaker 2: this stuff like a house of cards. Sure, and and
Speaker 2: then you know, like, hey, as long as nobody moves,
Speaker 2: as long as nothing changes, I'm gonna be fine, and
Speaker 2: this is gonna be great. But if one thing goes wrong.
Speaker 1: You're basically describing the entire five seasons of Breaking Bed
Speaker 1: slowly totally. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, but and I bring up Silicon Valley. Who
Speaker 2: Zach Woods in Silicon Valley, who was in this movie
Speaker 2: as well, it always was like with those movies, the
Speaker 2: stakes got higher and higher, and then you'd have the
Speaker 2: dewys makina I think I'm pronounce coming in at the
Speaker 2: very end of the show or the end of the
Speaker 2: episode or the end of an arc, and it's like, Okay, well,
Speaker 2: I guess that meant nothing. But but what was great
Speaker 2: about Silicon Valley is that would happen every episode, but
Speaker 2: then like the very last scene would set you up like, all,
Speaker 2: something worse is coming now, you know what I mean, Like, which,
Speaker 2: which I always liked, you know, encouraged serial viewing. Okay,
Speaker 2: so that.
Speaker 1: Was conversely, this this flick towards the end, it actively
Speaker 1: encouraged you to not like Powell's character. Yeah, like and
Speaker 1: he basically says as much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I thought he says right at the beginning,
Speaker 2: like this is a tragedy. Yeah, and it's not the
Speaker 2: tragedy that you think it is. I think it is right.
Speaker 1: And I thought that was an interesting kind of little
Speaker 1: twist because you said when you came on my radio show,
Speaker 1: unlike Send Help, you weren't smiling. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was one of those movies where I'm not sure
Speaker 2: how I felt. Send Help I found myself smiling at
Speaker 2: the end of this one. I'm kind of like, it's
Speaker 2: just it was a very deadpan, serah screen.
Speaker 1: But you saying that because you had seen it at
Speaker 1: that point and I had not seen it. I went
Speaker 1: to see it later in the afternoon. You saying that
Speaker 1: influenced how I was watching the movie, and I'm sitting
Speaker 1: there halfway through the film and I'm like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I said I didn't know how to feel.
Speaker 2: I mean, that doesn't that.
Speaker 1: Well like this is. I'm just telling you. I'm sitting
Speaker 1: there halfway through the movie and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: Bulky just might be soft.
Speaker 2: Like right, exactly, yes, dude, right.
Speaker 1: But by the end of the movie, I was like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: I get the point that he was trying to make, because.
Speaker 2: Which is I wish we did spoilers on the show.
Speaker 1: We could do spoilers.
Speaker 2: I don't want to. I mean, I want to keep
Speaker 2: the art streak alive here. But there a lot to
Speaker 2: discuss with the ending too, of like how we're meant
Speaker 2: to feel, what's the theme, what's the message at the end,
Speaker 2: and and by the way, the way that this ended,
Speaker 2: I'm spinning in my head because yeah, it's the end
Speaker 2: of the story, but the story kind of continues, and
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like, well, clearly I know what's gonna
Speaker 2: happen here, you know. Oh, I'll tell you off air.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I know what's gonna happen, Okay, And
Speaker 2: it's not gonna be good for either one of those
Speaker 2: characters that were in the final scene, but I'll get
Speaker 2: into that later. A theme of the show show message
Speaker 2: of this movie, because I think I portrayed it like
Speaker 2: it was a have and have not type of thing,
Speaker 2: but the have not was really supposed to be a
Speaker 2: half and he was, well, I don't want to reveal too.
Speaker 1: Much, I'm gonna I mean, I'm gonna say this, and
Speaker 1: I think this is probably what's not sitting well at
Speaker 1: least with me about the movie. But also, like I
Speaker 1: typically like the darker stuff. But if you asked me,
Speaker 1: gun to my head, what's the overarching message of this movie,
Speaker 1: I would say it's that money buys happiness, at least
Speaker 1: to a certain extent. I will say they dark knighted
Speaker 1: in this movie. They did the last two minutes of
Speaker 1: The Dark Knight, which I've established I hate the last
Speaker 1: two minutes of the Dark Knight. Yeah, when they explain everything,
Speaker 1: because the theme of the movie to me was the
Speaker 1: mother at the beginning of the movie says, I want
Speaker 1: you to go on to live the life that you
Speaker 1: expect to live, and about that you should live, that
Speaker 1: you should live, and thirty minutes into the movie before
Speaker 1: they just spell it out and hold your hand because
Speaker 1: we're just a theater full of cretance. But before there,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and I'm like, you know, he's got
Speaker 1: a good gig, he's seeing an attractive girl. I was like,
Speaker 1: he really doesn't need to do any of this, Like
Speaker 1: life is in such a good place right now, Like,
Speaker 1: just keep doing this. And then eventually he even comes
Speaker 1: out and says, oh, I really didn't need to do
Speaker 1: any of this.
Speaker 2: I'm just like, oh, come on, because I think we're
Speaker 2: all thinking that.
Speaker 1: And so it is that money doesn't buy happiness. But
Speaker 1: also he had a good finance job, he had a
Speaker 1: good life, he had good kids happening with it.
Speaker 2: And at the same time, to that point, he had
Speaker 2: already committed murder. True like he before. If you go
Speaker 2: back before the murder a spoiler alert, he commits murder. Yeah,
Speaker 2: before the murder. I mean, I would say he didn't
Speaker 2: have the greatest job. And you know what, now that
Speaker 2: I think of it, he did get kind of demoted. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that was before the first Yeah, maybe that was
Speaker 2: part of the catalyst too, probably where he's working hard
Speaker 2: and he's doing everything right.
Speaker 1: And then you get less pay and then and then.
Speaker 2: You're you're not rewarded for that, you're penalized for it.
Speaker 2: And why why was he penalized for.
Speaker 1: It because of some rich jerks? Some rich jerks, kid exactly? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then who does he go after first?
Speaker 2: A rich Well no, but but we find out that
Speaker 2: that that guy wasn't a.
Speaker 1: Jerk, did we?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, that was Bill Camp. That was his character
Speaker 2: because he's the one who gave him the job.
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh, I was talking about the kid with
Speaker 1: the anchor. Yeah, that was his kid because they met
Speaker 1: at the funeral. Oh oh right, right right, yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I meant the kid was a jerk.
Speaker 2: Kid was a jerk?
Speaker 1: Okay, spoil right, Yeah, you're right. The uncle is probably
Speaker 1: one of the better characters.
Speaker 2: Would I would say he was of all the people
Speaker 2: that that we get to be introduced that were red
Speaker 2: fellows besides the mother and uh the uh yeah, besides
Speaker 2: the mother, the uncle, uncle, whatever his name was, was the
Speaker 2: only guy that you in fact, you know, you talk
Speaker 2: about characters you rooted for in this movie, it was
Speaker 2: Jessica Henwick's character, which is Ruth, and then the uncle.
Speaker 2: There's nobody else, you know, and and uh and I
Speaker 2: don't know there. I think I brought this up too.
Speaker 2: As long as I brought up Breaking bad U my
Speaker 2: boss for one of my other gigs. His wife stopped
Speaker 2: watching Breaking Back because she's like, I can't I can't
Speaker 2: root for any of these characters anymore. Like what's the point.
Speaker 2: I don't identify with any of them. I can't root
Speaker 2: for him. There's no positivity. I'm done. And she stopped
Speaker 2: watching it. And I don't blame her. I mean, it
Speaker 2: was a great it was a great show.
Speaker 1: Never met her.
Speaker 2: I'm judging her, okay, but it was a great show.
Speaker 2: But the same time, Ben, you know, you think about
Speaker 2: what Walter White it was mister Chips to Scarface. Well
Speaker 2: you rooted for mister Chips. Were you rooting for Scarface?
Speaker 1: Some people?
Speaker 2: Some people probably weren't, but you think about what he
Speaker 2: had to do And then Guss and then Jesse, who
Speaker 2: I think obviously had a very redeeming arc that kind
Speaker 2: of resolved itself in El Camino. But Mike, as much
Speaker 2: as I love Mike, he was not a good guy.
Speaker 1: No, now I feel that. But see, it's just like politics.
Speaker 1: You just got to put an evil next to a
Speaker 1: greater evil, and as soon as you introduced like Todd
Speaker 1: into it, I'm like, oh no, Walter, well it's not
Speaker 1: that bad. I can I can pull for this. You know,
Speaker 1: That's how they kept me coming back, Like oh, Gust's
Speaker 1: an evil bastard, and like, you know, that's how they
Speaker 1: kept me coming back, right, But like I that didn't
Speaker 1: bother me at all. But in this I think it
Speaker 1: is the the mismatch of styles, like the jovial nature. Again,
Speaker 1: they went for a roses aesthetic. They went for I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think of other movies that that stick out.
Speaker 1: What do you mean jovial style like it's it's even
Speaker 1: listed is a thriller comedy, like it is done in
Speaker 1: a lighthearted way, even though what's happening is is not.
Speaker 1: Whereas Breaking Bad was like, no, we're actually gonna spend
Speaker 1: four episodes building to this horrible thing. That happens, and
Speaker 1: you are supposed to think that it is horrible that
Speaker 1: this happened, whereas you watch someone die here in like
Speaker 1: a hilarious fashion, and you're like.
Speaker 2: Aha, so so how about this. Maybe this is a
Speaker 2: good analogy for the for the Red Fellow characters. And
Speaker 2: we're trying, we're struggling to identify this before BF Wellington. Okay,
Speaker 2: yeh is a puff pastry stuffed with a like a
Speaker 2: really good steak, right, character character development? Right, Yeah, you
Speaker 2: peel back the layers and there's actually this actually juicy
Speaker 2: big entree right in the inside. The characters in this
Speaker 2: movie more like cream puffs. You know, you have this
Speaker 2: pastry shell and inside it's just this superfluous cream. There's
Speaker 2: nothing there. Yeah, like there. It just wasn't real. It
Speaker 2: was like they were cardboards, two dimensional stand ups in
Speaker 2: a world of three dims.
Speaker 1: Which people is how I would describe the characters in
Speaker 1: American Psycho. But if you do it the right way,
Speaker 1: you become a classic if you It's kind of like
Speaker 1: how we said, or at least I said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but okay, But part of the allure of American
Speaker 2: Psycho was us not understanding killing for killing.
Speaker 1: Sake, sure, but I guess what we.
Speaker 2: Can all identify with, Like why you'd want to kill
Speaker 2: somebody for a fifty billion.
Speaker 1: Dollars, I guess, But like I guess. The point I'm
Speaker 1: making is is like when we watched Caught Stealing and
Speaker 1: I was like, this is like someone saw a Guy
Speaker 1: Ritchie movie and was like, oh, I can do a
Speaker 1: Guy Ritchie movie and then no, you can't because you're
Speaker 1: not Guy Ritchie. To me, this person was like, oh,
Speaker 1: look what the characters. These characters are all superficial versions
Speaker 1: of people that you've met in real life. Like everyone
Speaker 1: knows a Patrick Bateman who's work I've worked in the
Speaker 1: sales world. I know the guy who you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: don't tell anything about your clients to that guy, Like
Speaker 1: I know that person in the sales world, right, And
Speaker 1: You're sitting there watching American Psycho and I'm sure this
Speaker 1: birs like I could do an American Psycho style movie
Speaker 1: about coming up in America, and then though you can't
Speaker 1: because like there's an extra sauce that goes into making
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff that you do not possess, and
Speaker 1: it was not evident in this movie. And whether that's
Speaker 1: on Glenn Powell or the director, because Christian Bale is
Speaker 1: a top tier actor of our generation. So that absolutely
Speaker 1: lends itself to why that movie has looked at the
Speaker 1: way it is as well. But there's just to me,
Speaker 1: I found myself thinking back to that that was.
Speaker 2: Kind of Christian Bale's breakout too. Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was definitely up there, and like I found myself
Speaker 1: the entire time I was watching it thinking of American
Speaker 1: Psycho and that I think is a really interesting movie
Speaker 1: that I hated the first time I saw it. Really
Speaker 1: I didn't get it. I was too young fourteen.
Speaker 2: Was that based on a novel?
Speaker 1: I think? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Now that who's the guy who wrote the Edward Norton
Speaker 2: the Club? I always American Psychle.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so. It
Speaker 1: wasn't the same director, was it. No.
Speaker 2: Now you want to get some trivia and you might
Speaker 2: have to fact check me out this. There is a
Speaker 2: movie that came out rip James Vanderbeek, who just passed
Speaker 2: away a week or two ago. There is a movie
Speaker 2: that came out called the Rules of Attraction. Okay, this
Speaker 2: was like early two thousands, mid two thousands, after Dawson's
Speaker 2: Creek and Vanderbeek was kind of going on his film career.
Speaker 2: I believe Vanderbeek's character in that movie his last name
Speaker 2: was Bateman, and it was sort of like a crossover,
Speaker 2: like he was Patrick Bateman's real life brother.
Speaker 1: Oh that's funny. Is Sean Bateman Jean Bateman?
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is wild? When I was like, holy cow,
Speaker 2: And I don't know if there is any relationship from
Speaker 2: Rules of Attraction to American Ship at all. But that's
Speaker 2: kind of cool that, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, same universe type of deal. It's hilarious. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: but yeah, so to me, yeah, just an empty shell
Speaker 1: of something that like I wasn't offended. I wasn't mad
Speaker 1: that I saw it. I don't think I would have
Speaker 1: went to theaters to see this, right, personally.
Speaker 2: It's one of those things where and I was trying
Speaker 2: to tell Surfry about this at work. Now I'm I'm
Speaker 2: motoring into the home stretch here, Do you have anything else?
Speaker 1: Now? I'm so.
Speaker 2: Then, so I was telling Sturfry about this fun idea, yeah,
Speaker 2: or a kind of a quasi original idea. Execution missed,
Speaker 2: did not stick. The landing which which is unfortunate because
Speaker 2: you know the you know, the way that you tell
Speaker 2: a story and a trailer is supposed to capture us
Speaker 2: and try to you know, get us, and then you
Speaker 2: actually watch the product and it's like, you know, it's
Speaker 2: like meeting your hero, right yeah, yeah exactly kind of
Speaker 2: like yeah, this is not what I what I I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like comparatively to your attitude towards him, I
Speaker 1: don't know that I am sold on Glenn Powell as like,
Speaker 1: oh this is I made the comparison like for me,
Speaker 1: like if Tom Hardy's in a movie, like even the
Speaker 1: trailer could suck and be like that movie might be
Speaker 1: freaking awesome and I'll check it out.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let me just clarify my Glenn Powell. Okay,
Speaker 2: my boss, the same one and whose wife does not
Speaker 2: watch Breaking Bad. Yeah he has a man crush. Maybe
Speaker 2: I just have a man crush on Glen Poe. He
Speaker 2: has a man crushing described you is that way on
Speaker 2: my show there he's got a man crush on Daniel Craig.
Speaker 2: So like the Bond movies, anything, Dan Munich, anything he
Speaker 2: does like he's he's seeing it And I just think
Speaker 2: like maybe Glenn Powell is the guy I wish I
Speaker 2: could be. Rugged good, looks really in shape, gets women
Speaker 2: like it because I just I feel like when he's
Speaker 2: on screen, like the Rick James Dave Chappelle, think there's
Speaker 2: an aura about him, like there's just and and that's
Speaker 2: why I was kind of disappointed in this because he
Speaker 2: he was kind of a broken character that I didn't
Speaker 2: like seeing.
Speaker 1: I like him in Top Gun Mavericks.
Speaker 2: Right, like that's that's like the cocky or cock sure
Speaker 2: right that that that's another he's the cock sure, like
Speaker 2: like really talented guy. And and that's a running Man.
Speaker 1: I was gonna says his luck in Running Man. He's
Speaker 1: got the sick. He needs money.
Speaker 2: But you know what, in Running Man still looked amazing
Speaker 2: and and like he just he did not He is
Speaker 2: not the type of character that would be He's not
Speaker 2: the type of actor that would be a character that
Speaker 2: would be this poor guy. And you know what, he
Speaker 2: wasn't Ben because you watch him in that movie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's right up, he's right, he's two steps ahead of
Speaker 2: the elites.
Speaker 1: He's saving the people in the oil rig flash fire.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, like this is this is a hero.
Speaker 2: This is not just some You.
Speaker 1: Know what's funny is the manager of the theater that
Speaker 1: I go to to see the movies. He talks to
Speaker 1: me every week and I go in there now and
Speaker 1: we're taught. I tell him what I'm going to see.
Speaker 1: He goes, it's strange. He goes, it doesn't feel like
Speaker 1: he fits that movie, and it's funny that that's where
Speaker 1: we started. He goes, he's just too handsome to do
Speaker 1: x Y. And I tell this guy, I don't know
Speaker 1: him from Adam right, like, we only know because I'm
Speaker 1: there every week, And I say, you know what's funny
Speaker 1: is I saw him in Running Man a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and I remember pulling my phone out during
Speaker 1: the show because I thought he was so handsome that
Speaker 1: I googled how old he was and I realized that
Speaker 1: he was the same age as me, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: so if I put some time in, I could still
Speaker 1: look at it. Like, okay, I'll take that as an
Speaker 1: absolute w Yeah.
Speaker 2: Plus I heard Glenn paula a lot of Greek genes.
Speaker 1: Really, no, I will say.
Speaker 2: I mentioned this before that it was reported, and I
Speaker 2: think Tom Cruise has since denied this. But they're like
Speaker 2: reported by several outlets that he wanted Glenn Powell to
Speaker 2: take over Mission Impossible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've told me about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you think about okay, so he's you know,
Speaker 2: so obviously there's a comparison there between Powell and Cruise.
Speaker 2: Think of what what Cruise has done. You know, like
Speaker 2: over the course of his career, he's always been the
Speaker 2: good looking heuro type guy whatever. Minority Report, Magnolia, maybe
Speaker 2: not so much.
Speaker 1: Even as recently as Magnolia. He reminds me of Toe
Speaker 1: for Grace's character in this totally yeah, uh Edge of Tomorrow,
Speaker 1: even which isn't even that old. Yeah, he was as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think about like the best one of my
Speaker 2: favorite time Cruise roles, and it was like he was
Speaker 2: he wasn't in the movie a whole lot traffic Thunder
Speaker 2: as less gross. That was something I was great. Yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: and but but maybe this is what Glenn Powell is
Speaker 2: going to be. Stick to the action stuff, right, Expendables
Speaker 2: three he was in he was great, and Expendables three,
Speaker 2: Glenn Paul stick to the action stuff, stick to the
Speaker 2: hero stuff, and and you know, uh, every so often,
Speaker 2: maybe you could stretch your wings and try to do
Speaker 2: like a magnolia. Right, but not not yet, man, but
Speaker 2: not yet. It's just let's give it another half decade.
Speaker 1: See where you're at. Yeah, but you gotta be careful
Speaker 1: because eventually Marvel or DC is going to sink their
Speaker 1: claws in you.
Speaker 2: And then if you're worried maybe, I don't know, I
Speaker 2: like you never you never. Really, there's there's some leading
Speaker 2: men that that just they they don't want to they
Speaker 2: don't want to do it, they'll never accept it.
Speaker 1: You want to hear the funniest example of one of
Speaker 1: them turning it down the Christopher Nolan Batman's Do you
Speaker 1: know this story already? Do you know who was supposed
Speaker 1: to be Batman before Christian Bale? Who was probably Ethan Hawk?
Speaker 2: Oh? I did not know.
Speaker 1: He was asked to be Batman before Christian Bale, and
Speaker 1: he said he was nervous he was going to get
Speaker 1: type cast. Thank god, he said, no, we're given all
Speaker 1: the fantastic movies he's done.
Speaker 2: I can't remember who said this. It was an A
Speaker 2: list actor and he was asked about doing Marvel or
Speaker 2: superhero movies and he said he'd never do it because
Speaker 2: when you sign on. To do that, you have to
Speaker 2: sign a contract multi and and sort of like you
Speaker 2: think about what the Golden Angel Hollywood was. They were
Speaker 2: the studios were locking in these actors like for ten
Speaker 2: movies at a time, five movies that it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: you are under contract, you have to do this movie,
Speaker 2: you have to do this. Well, I don't want to
Speaker 2: do this movie. You don't have a choice.
Speaker 1: Which if you're Sebastian Stan you're like, yeah, give me
Speaker 1: a nine movie contract. What the hell else am I doing? Exactly,
Speaker 1: But if you're a Leo, you're like, no, I'm not
Speaker 1: signing a three picture.
Speaker 2: Is another is another good example of like yeah, you
Speaker 2: don't care, but and that's what it's so crazy when
Speaker 2: you get like, you know, a guy like Michael Douglass
Speaker 2: on right.
Speaker 1: It's just like really right, But that's when you treat
Speaker 1: yourself like Daryl Revis and you're like, I'm doing a
Speaker 1: one one year deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but how many movies was he in?
Speaker 1: Though? At least two? Three?
Speaker 2: No, I'd five that I can count, because he was
Speaker 2: in all the ant Man. Yeah he was in uh,
Speaker 2: well maybe he wasn't in He's an end game. He
Speaker 2: was an endgame. Maybe he wasn't an infinite Yeah, so
Speaker 2: that so four, yeah that we know of. And was
Speaker 2: he ever in a I don't think he was ever
Speaker 2: in a TV series at all.
Speaker 1: No, not that I'm aware. Yeah, but yeah, in any event,
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with Powell's trajectory. I'm not too
Speaker 1: keen on this one though. I don't want to be
Speaker 1: an ass, but I'm gonna be an ass. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say like four maybe four point five.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean I can't go lower than five because
Speaker 2: Glenn Powell's and it's sure I'm gonna go five and
Speaker 2: a half on this one. Still a cool premise, uh,
Speaker 2: still cool execution. The story was was fun. The story
Speaker 2: seeing how it played out was interesting. I just feel
Speaker 2: like there was just I don't know, like it was.
Speaker 2: It was really difficult for me to see how Powell's
Speaker 2: character would get from point A to point p you know,
Speaker 2: from from point A to point Z, and just like
Speaker 2: the decisions that I just I don't I don't know
Speaker 2: if a normal person even as one affected you know,
Speaker 2: I was, you know, childhood and the stuff that happened
Speaker 2: to him, the stuff that happened to his parents or whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would have been able to
Speaker 2: do that, especially when so much was going well for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. And I'll be real, I have one
Speaker 1: major gripe with this movie that I can't say because
Speaker 1: it happens at the end.
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about that as soon as we signed off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I'm saying there, I have.
Speaker 2: To tell you what I think it like is going
Speaker 2: to happen, and.
Speaker 1: I have an issue with it as well. Maybe they
Speaker 1: kind of tie in, and I hope you notice the
Speaker 1: same thing I did, because it sucked.
Speaker 2: Probably not next week, No, yes, what's the game play? Okay?
Speaker 2: So so I brought up Scream seven week. Now. The
Speaker 2: one that's coming out this week that I think is
Speaker 2: getting a lot of buzz is The Bride with Christian Bale.
Speaker 2: Maggie Jillenhall directed and wrote this one. That would be
Speaker 2: my suggestion. It's a little bit long, it's a little
Speaker 2: over two hours, but it seems I mean, there's like
Speaker 2: a Bride of Frankenstein's story. There's got to be some
Speaker 2: sort of twist on it, you know, like, well.
Speaker 1: Have you seen the trailer? They even say you're the
Speaker 1: bride of Frankenstein. She goes, no, I'm just the bride exactly.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure there's going to be.
Speaker 2: Just Bucky, by the way, just got nominated for an
Speaker 2: Academy Award for Hamnet that that she was so like,
Speaker 2: there's buzz with her right now as well. That would
Speaker 2: be my suggestion.
Speaker 1: I leave it up to you. Yeah, no, let's do
Speaker 1: that one. I've heard nothing but bad things about Scream seven,
Speaker 1: so I mean perfect, I'm not anti yet, but at
Speaker 1: the same time, I can wait on it.
Speaker 2: It's it's difficult for me to say, hey, let's watch
Speaker 2: Scream seven instead of Christian Bale as.
Speaker 1: Can I Can I go as long as this okay,
Speaker 1: we have a couple of minutes. Can I just say
Speaker 1: screams what Scream seven should have been. I haven't seen
Speaker 1: it yet, but it doesn't matter. Are you familiar with
Speaker 1: Wes Craven's new Nightmare.
Speaker 2: I've heard of it. I'm not familiar, Okay.
Speaker 1: It is the seventh installment of Nightmare on Elm Street,
Speaker 1: with the sixth one being called Freddy's Dead Like they
Speaker 1: went out of their way to not only kill him,
Speaker 1: but kill the demons that kept him coming back, and
Speaker 1: and the series So when New Nightmare came out, it
Speaker 1: brought back Heather Langencamp, who played Nancy in the first
Speaker 1: and third one, but she wasn't playing Nancy. She was
Speaker 1: playing Heather Langencamp. And Robert England is in it, but
Speaker 1: he's not playing Freddy Krueger. He's playing Robert England. But
Speaker 1: Freddy Krueger is in it, and he's played by Robert England,
Speaker 1: but it is it is not Robert England. It's like, actually,
Speaker 1: Freddy Krueger, Essentially Freddy Krueger comes out of the movies
Speaker 1: and is it's hyper meta. They should have brought Nev
Speaker 1: Campbell and Courtney Cox and and even the dead characters like, uh,
Speaker 1: what's the.
Speaker 2: Jam Kennedy, Yeah, oh, Dewey was David Arquette.
Speaker 1: Arquette, Yeah, exactly, and bring all those characters back, but
Speaker 1: have them play themselves and have a Scream person killing
Speaker 1: them in real life in a hyper meta version of Scream.
Speaker 1: That is clearly if you were going to bring Nev
Speaker 1: Campbell back, what the movie should have been. And I'm
Speaker 1: pissed off they didn't take it that way. And I
Speaker 1: know I'm not supposed to say. If you don't do
Speaker 1: a movie the way I want to do it. I
Speaker 1: shouldn't say it sucks, but that was obviously how you
Speaker 1: do scream seven everything else.
Speaker 2: Then I will say this screen seven may not be
Speaker 2: the end, sure, and you haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: Maybe it is right and they could take this idea
Speaker 1: and run with it for eight or nine, yeah, or ten.
Speaker 1: I'm saying thirty seven eighty two right, never know, but
Speaker 1: the seven seven parallel because it was night mare Elms
Speaker 1: ten seven.
Speaker 2: And Wes Craven that's that's his baby.
Speaker 1: It is it is now he's dead obviously, but you
Speaker 1: can still do That's still the idea. The idea, I
Speaker 1: guess what I'm saying is check out Wes Craven's new nightmare.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do the bride next week. Thanks for listening, everybody,