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<v Speaker 1>Good job of exemplifying that two wednesdays ago. That's for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I am coming through good. Yeah, super hot

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<v Speaker 1>over here. But other than that, no, nothing you did.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all on It's all on me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all I was going to do, Damien, I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to do the omen, Damien, It's all for you.

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<v Speaker 1>But and then she hangs herself. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>In the seventies seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, And they remade it with Leev Schreiber and

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<v Speaker 1>actually wasn't terrible. It's almost like the exact same movie,

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<v Speaker 1>but shot for shot pretty much there. There's a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of things they added in there, and it's like a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, this is basically the same, but like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it isn't right. All right, all right, cold open, cold open,

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<v Speaker 1>cold open? Got it? All right? You ready?

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<v Speaker 2>Fire away?

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<v Speaker 1>All right. I'm back to be in the cenic bulky,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm glad about it because I was nervous that

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<v Speaker 1>I was becoming the guy that was gonna love all

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<v Speaker 1>of these movies but how to make a killing. Not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say I hated it. But we've returned, We've dabbled

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<v Speaker 1>back in the mediocre again, which is kind of. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a refreshing feeling for me that I still

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<v Speaker 1>can feel this way about something I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't understand, Like like, did you think, like we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have three bangers in a row?

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<v Speaker 1>I was nervous. Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what to expect with this one, honestly, because it could

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<v Speaker 1>have been. It reminded me of Roses in that it

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<v Speaker 1>takes a pretty macab story but does it through like

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<v Speaker 1>an almost comical lens, Like you don't ever feel sad

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<v Speaker 1>when people.

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<v Speaker 2>Had a mac There's people dying in Roses.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I got to see this movie. Yeah you do? Yeah, yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so so it's all awful people, Like, there's very few

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<v Speaker 1>people in this movie that you're like, oh, outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the love interest, the second love interest, outside of that person,

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<v Speaker 1>there really isn't anybody you're rooting for.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I I feel like you you were rooting for

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<v Speaker 2>Glenn Powell's character, at least initially, and then he makes

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<v Speaker 2>some choices. This is obviously how to make a killing.

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<v Speaker 2>Ben already said that Glenn Powell ed Harris, Margaret Qualley,

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<v Speaker 2>Jessica Henwick. Who else am I forgetting? That was in

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<v Speaker 2>this movie feel like there's a oh Zach Woods.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically the gist of this movie is Glenn Powell

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<v Speaker 2>is heir to a fortune. Now roughly, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what would you say, it's well over.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty billion, yeah, I think that's around the.

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<v Speaker 2>So. And but in order for him to claim this fortune,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got to kill off seven relatives that are heirs

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<v Speaker 2>before him. And why would he do this?

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<v Speaker 1>What? What would provoke him to do this?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he was born to his mother who was the

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<v Speaker 2>order of like the guy who controlled the fortune, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So his grandfather and the daughter had him out of

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<v Speaker 2>wedlock with some random cellist like just you know, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>basically the father said, you can have the kid or

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<v Speaker 2>you cannot have the kid. But if you have the kid,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not going to do it under this roof. And

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<v Speaker 2>they sort of disowned her, and so he was not

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<v Speaker 2>He grew up, you know, not poor, but not not

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<v Speaker 2>as rich as as he should.

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<v Speaker 1>It was relatively poor. She worked at a d M V.

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<v Speaker 1>She I mean, but but I guess things go south

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<v Speaker 1>pretty quickly. Yeah, pretty poor.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't. But here's the thing, like, you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>made there there was a scene in there where she

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<v Speaker 2>she she basically made a point to try to live

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<v Speaker 2>as close to the life he should have been living

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<v Speaker 2>as as much. So a lot of the money that

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<v Speaker 2>she got, I mean maybe she lived in poverty, but

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<v Speaker 2>he like had nice clothes, he looked nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he had an apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think, well, I'm just I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 2>like outwardly, and he was like doing archery stuff, which

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<v Speaker 2>is what rich people do. Yeah, so he he was

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<v Speaker 2>still as close as much as she could.

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<v Speaker 1>She gave him a you know, I was sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>when Ed Helms was talking to her and says, uh Harris,

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<v Speaker 1>ed Harris, Yeah, that would have been hilarious. Yeah, when

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<v Speaker 1>Ed Harris is like, you can have the if you

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<v Speaker 1>have this baby, you're not going to be doing it

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<v Speaker 1>under this roof. And I'm sitting there and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if the Titanic didn't sink, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>would be happening to Jack and Rose right now. I've

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<v Speaker 1>always found that movie ridiculous. It was like, the second

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<v Speaker 1>that boat land, you're not marrying this guy. Get the

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<v Speaker 1>hell out of here. You're eighteen. Don't tell me you're

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<v Speaker 1>in love with this card Shark you get out of here,

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<v Speaker 1>go marry Billy. He wasn't even a card shark. He

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<v Speaker 1>just got lucky in a game of poker. Yeah, sure, sure, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>well lucky. You guys can't see me now.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe his character was from Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben, Yeah, I don't even remember that he was, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was sitting there and he was refreshing to see,

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<v Speaker 1>like especially, And I don't want to come up off

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<v Speaker 1>as sexist here, but I'm going to when it's rich

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<v Speaker 1>woman and poor handsome dude. That never happens rich dude

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<v Speaker 1>and super attractive poor woman. Maybe the inverse.

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<v Speaker 2>No that you just mentioned Titanic, so it's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm doing. But it wouldn't Like I always

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<v Speaker 1>found that movie to be ridiculous. I'm like, if the

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<v Speaker 1>Titanic didn't sink, this relationships is immediately over.

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<v Speaker 2>There's got to be some other examples out there. I

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<v Speaker 2>bet you there is. If I went, if we went,

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<v Speaker 2>we asked, Gemini went on chat, I'm sure it could

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<v Speaker 2>find some examples. Now, they might not be great examples,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're right. I mean, rich Man, it's just the

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<v Speaker 2>way the world works. It's like pretty woman versus Titanic,

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<v Speaker 2>right yeah, you know, yes exactly, And there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more pretty woman examples than there is Titanic.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, And that's part of that's part of the systems.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that. But when I see it, I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a bunch of bull crap. This kind of dabbled

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, no, this is probably the way that

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<v Speaker 1>would play out if you're born to that kind of family, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I went to school with rich kids, not

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<v Speaker 1>fifty billion dollars rich. Like there was a who was

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<v Speaker 1>a friend of mine who his dad owned a company

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<v Speaker 1>on a street that had the same last name as

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<v Speaker 1>the dude I went to school with, so like he

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<v Speaker 1>was working at his company, so the companies, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like if his last name were Smith, he was on

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<v Speaker 1>Smith Street. Oh wow, yeah wow, only it's not that

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<v Speaker 1>common of a name like this very much was their street.

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<v Speaker 1>And we were good friends in college, and the second

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<v Speaker 1>we graduated, that person disappeared. And that's more the way.

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<v Speaker 2>He disappears, just another family business.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in the yachts and and that life. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>here with you now, you know, that's that's just whish

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<v Speaker 1>got it better than best that's what I'm saying. But

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<v Speaker 1>so I always see that in movies. I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that probably wouldn't play out that way, and sure enough,

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<v Speaker 1>this this that's kind of the impetus of this, the

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<v Speaker 1>jealousy of like, I need to get back to that.

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<v Speaker 1>I want that, I'm owed this, and I want okach

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm here for that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So so that this is a good point,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a lot unpack with this. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>get to that point number one. But before you get

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<v Speaker 2>that quick precursor, the Ed Harris scene early on, did

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<v Speaker 2>you know that was Ed Harrison?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but only because I saw the casting. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have Okay, probably.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I looked at the casting a few days

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<v Speaker 2>before I saw it, and I forgot he was in it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't I didn't even realize it was him

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<v Speaker 2>until I was looking at my phone at the cast

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<v Speaker 2>during it. I'm like, oh, I haven't seen Ed Harris yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, I bet that was him. And then there's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so anyway, not the point. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 2>get into this. Beckett red Fellow Fellow is Glenn Powell's

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<v Speaker 2>character Beckett red Fellow never knew wealth he grew up

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<v Speaker 2>in poverty, yea, and yet he was promised this fortune

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<v Speaker 2>by his mother. You know she what was the overarching theme?

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<v Speaker 2>She wanted him to lead the right life?

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't it something like that should have lived for something

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<v Speaker 1>to that effect. They only said it like eighteen thousand times.

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<v Speaker 1>We should we should know.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's basically what she said to him in one

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<v Speaker 2>of their conversations. Not gonna spoil anything here, and and

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<v Speaker 2>that's all I always sort of been into the back

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<v Speaker 2>of his head. Now you bring up the jealousy aspect,

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess that could be true. But if you've

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<v Speaker 2>never been wealthy, do you really know what it's like?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you really know what you're missing? In other words,

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<v Speaker 2>think of the Walking Dead that universe when second generation

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<v Speaker 2>was being born into the zombie apocalypse. They don't know

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<v Speaker 2>computers and television like they never experienced it before. So

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<v Speaker 2>can you really be motivated by something that you've never experienced,

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<v Speaker 2>that you've never known to you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's real. If you gave me three billion dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you right now, I'd still be eating little

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<v Speaker 1>Caesars and drinking frenzy of wine. You know what I mean, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be bying fancy. I'm not a fancy man

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<v Speaker 1>because I wasn't raised on fancy things. Like I like

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<v Speaker 1>the cheap stuff Hamburger helper. To me, it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of of it's all I can have. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of no, this is, this is good, this is

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need more than that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think, and I don't know, maybe you can

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<v Speaker 2>remind me what the catalyst was. But he had a

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<v Speaker 2>decent job, uh, live by himself and didn't look like

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<v Speaker 2>squalor didn't look like he was very rich.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks sad.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks sad, but I mean I think it looks

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<v Speaker 2>sad because it was it was just him. He didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have a wife and you have kids whatever. And like how

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<v Speaker 2>old is he supposed to be in this movie? Probably

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<v Speaker 2>around like he was born in ninety three. I think

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<v Speaker 2>if we look at that family tree, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even realize. I know, because I've looked it

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<v Speaker 1>up in real life, he's thirty eighty eight. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what it is thirty three in the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I guess at that point, a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>I should say, a lot of people, but a decent

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<v Speaker 2>amount of people have a wife.

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<v Speaker 1>Have kids.

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<v Speaker 2>You could say that. You could say that, yeah, thirty three. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Sometimes it's it's different. Well I guess

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<v Speaker 2>you're fright herself, but it's different for everyone. So okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So well, okay, I mean you live alone? Yeah right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean is it sad for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, it's the framing of it. It's when they

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<v Speaker 1>had him. There was a scene when he was in

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<v Speaker 1>had the life I lived, I'd be like, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>It was that jerk Margaret quality seeing her kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like that's kind of what kicks his ass and gear

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<v Speaker 1>like he sees her and so that's what it is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's just like she was money.

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<v Speaker 1>She makes some offhand like when you get that fortune,

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm pretty sure that's in the trailer. She's

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we have to talk about the first murder.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is in the trailer. So I'm not even

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<v Speaker 2>Well okay, but the way it's framed, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden something happens and it happens. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And was it just that little impetus that put him

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<v Speaker 1>But I've heard your first one is the hardest one,

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<v Speaker 1>and once you do it once, like movies, yeah, becomes

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<v Speaker 1>easier and easier. Yeah, it's like a thousand movies that

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<v Speaker 1>have said that before, and so based on that and

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<v Speaker 1>do it six more times. Oh yeah, good point. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill camp is in this movie, by the way, great actor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah no, he does a great job in this for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But to me, it was strange. I'm interested, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to take this in too many different angles here.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have more to say about that murder, let's

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<v Speaker 1>go there. But I do want to say like, this

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let go ahead. I want to get to the framing.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about the murders right away. These characters are meant,

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<v Speaker 2>at least I think, are meant to be very unredeeming,

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<v Speaker 2>very unlikable characters. Okay, and yet the decision that Beckett

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you took it exactly where I wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he's befriending him, he's getting involved in their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>He's even telling them, hey, I'm your cousin. Yeah, a

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<v Speaker 2>very bizarre choice because the closer you get to somebody

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<v Speaker 2>and the more you human you know that that's the

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<v Speaker 2>whole say say their names thing. When these people die,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's always like say their name, say their name,

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<v Speaker 2>humanize it, then it's easier to handle, which is what

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<v Speaker 2>But he went the opposite angle.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, to me, tell me if this is off base.

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<v Speaker 1>This felt like a much less intelligent American psycho. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that the one with Christian Bale? Yeah, it's uh because

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<v Speaker 1>they emphasize that killing people is bad. But there's almost

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<v Speaker 1>like a satirical element to this entire movie, where like

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<v Speaker 1>he does befriend people, he goes to dinner with people,

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<v Speaker 1>he gets to know people, he goes to parties with people,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he goes and kills him and he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a very similar vibe to American psycho.

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<v Speaker 2>The major difference is of what Christian Baleist motivation is

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<v Speaker 2>for killing and then what.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the motivation killing?

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<v Speaker 2>Just killing?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, killing for killing sake, but it was element of progression.

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<v Speaker 1>It was activity, thrill crill thrill kill is what they are.

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<v Speaker 2>It was thrill killing for him if if do you

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<v Speaker 2>think that Beckett Redfellow, Yeah, do you think he'd just

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<v Speaker 2>be thrill killing? He doesn't strike me as the person

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<v Speaker 2>who would be doing that. He was doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very purposeful what he was doing, but not

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<v Speaker 1>the plot. I guess it was almost like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to this. It's like every character was almost

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<v Speaker 1>like a facsimile of a person instead of a real person.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no character development, There was no character growth.

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<v Speaker 1>I was never confused about who people were and why

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Which is the same way to me. It

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<v Speaker 1>just felt like it was a vapid Is that the

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<v Speaker 1>word I'm trying. I don't know what word I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to use to describe how all the characters felt in this,

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<v Speaker 1>but like it almost felt like people would die and

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<v Speaker 1>it was almost weightless, like it didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Matter because it was it was not a facade.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a satire.

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<v Speaker 2>They weren't Now, it wasn't satire. It just wasn't real.

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<v Speaker 2>These these people were were barely even caricatures of themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>They weren't they they were Well maybe that maybe that's

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<v Speaker 2>what it was. They were caricatures. There's no like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no development behind.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the rich artist, there's the guy who didn't have.

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<v Speaker 2>The who was you know, kind of a douche, right,

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<v Speaker 2>there was the first guy, the rich young frack guy,

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<v Speaker 2>mega douche. Yeah, and then you had the pastor douche

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<v Speaker 2>right yeah, with to for grace. It was like sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like this tvangelist. Yeah, and and I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>that had to be a fun character to play. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's only basically in like one scene.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of these guys only knock it out for

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So anyway, I thought that was interesting. Now let's

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<v Speaker 2>get into the actual motivation for this. If you were

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<v Speaker 2>in this situation where you had seven people in front

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<v Speaker 2>This only story you've been told about these people in

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<v Speaker 2>and now it seemed like he was okay. It seemed

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<v Speaker 2>like he was okay living this out. They show him

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<v Speaker 2>like checking oh bits to see what's going on with

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<v Speaker 2>the family. But honestly, some of these guys are younger

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<v Speaker 2>than him. There's you know, for all intentsive purposes, he's

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<v Speaker 2>never gonna see this portune. Yeah, you know, and living

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<v Speaker 2>the life that he did. I think maybe I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>a coward. Not that you need to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's courageous to murder, but I would have been like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a lot. I've been cast I'm good with that.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, Like the Margaret quality thing, Yeah, would not

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<v Speaker 1>No, and I'd even take it a step further. It's

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<v Speaker 1>almost like I don't have a survival instinct. I think

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<v Speaker 1>about this all the time. But like if I were

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<v Speaker 1>in Hunger Games, I don't know if I could kill

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<v Speaker 2>Let alone in Hunger Games.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I understand, man, I understand the premise to

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<v Speaker 1>the movie. I'd be sitting there be like, guys, let's

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<v Speaker 1>blue sphere thing and figure this all out in another way,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't have that gene. I watch all the

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<v Speaker 1>Saw movies and I'm sitting there and there are two

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<v Speaker 1>going to get out of it. I'd be like, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm supposed to be. Evolution was supposed to knock people

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<v Speaker 1>like me out of the process, because like, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>cold day in hell, and I disdain wealthy people, and

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't for a second do something like that to somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not me pedestal, and it's just the real person.

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<v Speaker 2>I am a bit of background on this film. I

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<v Speaker 2>believe it was based on a book you can tell,

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<v Speaker 2>I could tell. And then I think, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>quote me on this, I think it was made in

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<v Speaker 2>Japan or Oh. I believe that some foreign market made

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<v Speaker 2>a version of this. And then I also read that

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<v Speaker 2>this script sat two years ago on the what's called

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<v Speaker 2>the Blacklist?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever heard of the Blacklist? Ben? I can

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<v Speaker 1>I can speculate but I don't think i've.

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<v Speaker 2>Heard it well basically what I've never heard of it before. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>But but basically what it is is it's a list

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<v Speaker 2>of scripts that sit dormant in Hollywood, and the blacklist

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<v Speaker 2>is sort of like the krem de la creme of

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<v Speaker 2>all those like all the best scripts that have not

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<v Speaker 2>been utilized yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Right has put some star power behind it.

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<v Speaker 2>And See came out. He was an executive producer on

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<v Speaker 2>this film as well, So like this, this is a big.

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<v Speaker 1>Get some box office numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>While you're talking now speaking of Glenn Powell, Okay, do

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<v Speaker 2>you believe? And I read one I read a review

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<v Speaker 2>of this film after I saw it, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>the reviewer hit it on the head. Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>Glenn Powell was miscasting?

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<v Speaker 1>I do? I do. I I don't think this is

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<v Speaker 1>the type of person that he is. And more importantly, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the type of I don't know what type of.

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<v Speaker 1>Person character he plays. I should say.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, like, now, maybe he doesn't want to get because

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<v Speaker 2>his career is kind of launching right now. Sure, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't want to get type cast and he wants

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<v Speaker 2>to play these these different you know, but even watching this,

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<v Speaker 2>I just I'm rooting for him. I'm not rooting for him.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm rooting for him. He's a hero. He's an anti hero. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not even an anti hero. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who the younger version of this would

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<v Speaker 1>be that would work. But this role is for Edward Norton,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you have to be kind of smug. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>Glenn Powell doesn't have a Do you think Edward more Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like I think it. Norton sucks like cats,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a phenomenal actor. I think he's a he's a jag.

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<v Speaker 2>What.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think I'd like, Like, that's my lens

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<v Speaker 1>through which I look at life. I'm like, would I

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<v Speaker 1>get along with that person in high school? Me and

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<v Speaker 1>Edward Norton heads?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well what about Edward Hulker Edward.

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<v Speaker 1>Norton, he seems miserable. Why do you think they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what happened because he sucks. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think he sucks.

419
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<v Speaker 1>Oh he was great, he was great at it. Yeah,

420
00:19:50.599 --> 00:19:52.359
<v Speaker 1>but he'd like show up. He'd be like, hey, I

421
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<v Speaker 1>have a picture, go up to Kevin Foggy being like,

422
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<v Speaker 1>I think this should be happy with my character. It's like, bro,

423
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<v Speaker 1>I have a twenty year player, all right, I don't

424
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<v Speaker 1>care what So that's so he.

425
00:20:01.039 --> 00:20:03.519
<v Speaker 2>Just became that like difficult to work with.

426
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<v Speaker 1>Like in Wonder Man when he gets taken off of

427
00:20:08.759 --> 00:20:13.359
<v Speaker 1>American Horse. Oh yeah, that's what I envisioned Edward Norton

428
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<v Speaker 1>being like.

429
00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:16.119
<v Speaker 2>And there's just like I could just feel like, you.

430
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<v Speaker 1>Know, if you were if he you were his waiter

431
00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:21.039
<v Speaker 1>at a restaurant, you got his order wrong, like keep

432
00:20:21.079 --> 00:20:23.440
<v Speaker 1>being an ass, like I bet where's Glenn pal would

433
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<v Speaker 1>be like a mistakes happened, but don't worry about it.

434
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<v Speaker 2>That's how the problem was. I think. I think the

435
00:20:28.279 --> 00:20:30.920
<v Speaker 2>whole idea was to actually identify with this character and

436
00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:34.240
<v Speaker 2>root for this maybe maybe and Edward, I think about

437
00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:38.960
<v Speaker 2>what he did Rounders, Uh the jat was it not

438
00:20:39.079 --> 00:20:43.640
<v Speaker 2>the Jackal? What was the the heist or what rage? No?

439
00:20:43.799 --> 00:20:45.759
<v Speaker 1>Primal fear fear?

440
00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Yes, obviously that's another good one. Rich the Italian Italian job. No,

441
00:20:50.279 --> 00:20:52.880
<v Speaker 2>there's one year he did with de Niro or it's

442
00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:55.359
<v Speaker 2>like called the heist. It was Marlon Brando Angela Bassett,

443
00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:59.319
<v Speaker 2>Edward Norton, Robert de Niro, and basically they these these

444
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<v Speaker 2>this one old you know, criminal that's trying to retire.

445
00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:06.400
<v Speaker 2>De Niro he gets this one last job and he's

446
00:21:06.440 --> 00:21:09.119
<v Speaker 2>got to work with Edward Norton on it. And Edward Norton,

447
00:21:09.119 --> 00:21:11.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like he's the total smarmy, a whole type

448
00:21:12.200 --> 00:21:15.240
<v Speaker 2>that you gotta Okay, don't do it now, but if

449
00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:16.200
<v Speaker 2>you've never seen.

450
00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:17.279
<v Speaker 1>That, I'll check it out.

451
00:21:17.319 --> 00:21:19.680
<v Speaker 2>You'll love it. I mean, it's a it's a heist movie.

452
00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:23.880
<v Speaker 2>It's De Niro's great, Marlon Brando's solid, and Edward Norton.

453
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<v Speaker 1>And for the record, I love Edward Norton for his craft.

454
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<v Speaker 1>I just think he's a bit of a prick.

455
00:21:28.519 --> 00:21:31.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, but you don't know in real life being

456
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<v Speaker 2>a super nice guy. But I just don't think. Okay,

457
00:21:34.400 --> 00:21:36.680
<v Speaker 2>I'll give you an another example. You know this television

458
00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:40.000
<v Speaker 2>show Jury Duty. No, Okay, So so there is this

459
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<v Speaker 2>I'll go I'll go all the way back to the start.

460
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<v Speaker 2>In the nineties. There's this movie called The Joe Schmoe.

461
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<v Speaker 1>Show that I remember.

462
00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Jerry Duty was a spin off of that. Basically a

463
00:21:47.920 --> 00:21:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Joe Schmoe Show but it was called Jerry Duty, got it.

464
00:21:50.160 --> 00:21:55.240
<v Speaker 2>So James Marsden played this total a hole juror in this,

465
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<v Speaker 2>you know, and and he's playing himself. He was playing

466
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<v Speaker 2>himself on this jury, right. And then I was watching

467
00:22:02.519 --> 00:22:04.039
<v Speaker 2>an interview with the guy who was sort of the

468
00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:06.319
<v Speaker 2>schmo in this who didn't know it was all fake.

469
00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:09.079
<v Speaker 2>And he was saying afterwards because then you know, people

470
00:22:09.119 --> 00:22:12.200
<v Speaker 2>are trying to interview him. He's being recognized, and and

471
00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:15.519
<v Speaker 2>he texted James Marsden just like, hey, how do I

472
00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:18.279
<v Speaker 2>sort of handle this? And I think Marsden has that

473
00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:20.880
<v Speaker 2>look of being just an a hole? Yeah, realize, And

474
00:22:20.920 --> 00:22:23.160
<v Speaker 2>he said Marsden could not be more nice. He didn't

475
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<v Speaker 2>text me back. He called me back right away. Forty

476
00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:28.799
<v Speaker 2>minute phone call. We're doing. And like if there were

477
00:22:28.839 --> 00:22:30.880
<v Speaker 2>several of them like it, So it seems like Marsden

478
00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:34.279
<v Speaker 2>although he looks like the type of guy that you're like,

479
00:22:34.319 --> 00:22:36.519
<v Speaker 2>oh he's he's the type of person in Hollywood.

480
00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I never thought that about James Marsden though, that never

481
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<v Speaker 1>crossed my mind.

482
00:22:41.640 --> 00:22:43.759
<v Speaker 2>He look, he doesn't give you that look. Peter Fastinelle,

483
00:22:43.799 --> 00:22:46.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, Peter Fastenelli is from uh He's married to

484
00:22:46.519 --> 00:22:49.599
<v Speaker 2>Jenny Garth he was. He was in the Twilight movies.

485
00:22:49.640 --> 00:22:53.279
<v Speaker 2>He was the you remember can't hardly wait? Yeah, from

486
00:22:53.599 --> 00:22:57.519
<v Speaker 2>he was like the the a hole Jocko. That's another

487
00:22:57.559 --> 00:23:00.720
<v Speaker 2>guy who looks like But I mean, I don't know.

488
00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:02.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't know these guys in real life, you know,

489
00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:06.039
<v Speaker 2>a flip side. Maybe Tom Hanks is an a hole. Yeah,

490
00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:08.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Absolutely, I don't he is, but he

491
00:23:08.359 --> 00:23:08.680
<v Speaker 2>might be.

492
00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:11.039
<v Speaker 1>I could do an entire episode about this is Tom

493
00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Cruise because Tom Cruise can act like such a normal guy,

494
00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:15.200
<v Speaker 1>but he's also can be an asked and.

495
00:23:15.160 --> 00:23:17.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know where Cruise. I don't blame Tom Cruise

496
00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:20.160
<v Speaker 2>for this because I think and like, I'm not a doctor, Yeah,

497
00:23:20.200 --> 00:23:22.039
<v Speaker 2>but I think he was born with some sort of

498
00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:25.200
<v Speaker 2>chemical imbalance in his head. Yeah, maybe that that hit

499
00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:30.880
<v Speaker 2>that that provokes him to do things that normal, regular

500
00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:33.559
<v Speaker 2>human beings like you and I would not do. Maybe

501
00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:42.319
<v Speaker 2>whether it's romance, relationships, working relationships, social anxiety that I

502
00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:47.000
<v Speaker 2>think he might have. Uh, and then uh, the whole

503
00:23:47.039 --> 00:23:50.319
<v Speaker 2>stunt thing. I mean, my god, I told you about

504
00:23:50.319 --> 00:23:53.720
<v Speaker 2>the ten minute video. H Like I I even I

505
00:23:53.799 --> 00:23:55.920
<v Speaker 2>still watch that two or three times a year, and

506
00:23:55.960 --> 00:23:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, how is one How how is this person

507
00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:02.480
<v Speaker 2>with everything to losing nothing to gain from this? Why

508
00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:05.279
<v Speaker 2>is he putting in the effort and the time into

509
00:24:05.319 --> 00:24:07.160
<v Speaker 2>this when he doesn't have to. He could be doing

510
00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:11.200
<v Speaker 2>other things, more enjoyable things, quite frankly, maybe more rewarding things.

511
00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:13.920
<v Speaker 2>But to him, this is rewarding. To him, he feels

512
00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:15.799
<v Speaker 2>like here's a chemical imbalance.

513
00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:18.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe he could be. But I say all that

514
00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:22.799
<v Speaker 1>to say Glenn Powell doesn't let's bring it. Yeah, he

515
00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:25.599
<v Speaker 1>rubs me as a he doesn't rub me the wrong way,

516
00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:28.200
<v Speaker 1>like I feel like he's fine, might be a little arrogant,

517
00:24:28.200 --> 00:24:29.160
<v Speaker 1>but overall.

518
00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:31.079
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, this way is super arrogant and

519
00:24:31.119 --> 00:24:31.920
<v Speaker 2>top gun Mavericke.

520
00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:34.599
<v Speaker 1>Sure, obviously he's bombing, by the way in this it's

521
00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:38.519
<v Speaker 1>just absolutely bombing. I looked it up with financially okay

522
00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:41.319
<v Speaker 1>to stake your reputation to it's six point two million

523
00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:46.200
<v Speaker 1>in two weekends versus a fifteen million dollar budget, which

524
00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:51.759
<v Speaker 1>I did find myself asking the questions similar to Caught Stealing,

525
00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:53.720
<v Speaker 1>which is one of our first episodes of this show,

526
00:24:53.759 --> 00:24:57.119
<v Speaker 1>because the cast it was just a lister after a

527
00:24:57.200 --> 00:24:59.799
<v Speaker 1>list after a lister, and you and I even mentioned

528
00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:02.880
<v Speaker 1>who does this director know that he can get all

529
00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:06.559
<v Speaker 1>these people to commit to such a generic plot and movie,

530
00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:09.559
<v Speaker 1>And I felt a similar feeling watching this until I

531
00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:13.119
<v Speaker 1>just learned that Glenn Powell was an executive producer and

532
00:25:13.160 --> 00:25:15.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe like some people were just like, oh, yeah, I'll

533
00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:16.599
<v Speaker 1>throw you a bone. Let's see if we can get

534
00:25:16.599 --> 00:25:18.400
<v Speaker 1>this guy. I mean, you only need me for two

535
00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:20.559
<v Speaker 1>days to film because my role is so tiny in

536
00:25:20.599 --> 00:25:23.759
<v Speaker 1>this movie, because it reminded me like a nineties Jim

537
00:25:23.799 --> 00:25:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Carrey movie. Like if Jim Carrey was in a movie

538
00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:29.279
<v Speaker 1>in the nineties, every scene had Jim Carrey in it. Yeah,

539
00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:31.559
<v Speaker 1>like it was a vehicle for Jim Carrey and everybody

540
00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:34.319
<v Speaker 1>else was just window dressing. That's how I felt watching this.

541
00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:36.839
<v Speaker 1>It was who is Glenn Powell going to interact with

542
00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:39.640
<v Speaker 1>in this scene? And that was kind of how it

543
00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:42.880
<v Speaker 1>was wired. This was his and it's a ballsy move

544
00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:47.440
<v Speaker 1>because when it bombs like this, other studios take notice,

545
00:25:47.480 --> 00:25:49.000
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, if this happens two or

546
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<v Speaker 1>three times.

547
00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:52.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And he did the Sydney Sweeney movie that I

548
00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:54.640
<v Speaker 2>guess was a bomb any like anyone, but you I

549
00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:58.279
<v Speaker 2>think it was called it was like this romantic comedy

550
00:25:58.319 --> 00:26:01.759
<v Speaker 2>where these two people hate each other and they're there

551
00:26:01.799 --> 00:26:07.000
<v Speaker 2>for like their their their friends. Oh yeah, I never

552
00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:09.480
<v Speaker 2>saw it either, but I remember like it got really

553
00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:12.039
<v Speaker 2>bad reviews on that too, and Sidney Sweeney too. I mean,

554
00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:14.400
<v Speaker 2>like you'd think, like Glenn Powell and Sidney Sweeny, how

555
00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:15.160
<v Speaker 2>could this go wrong?

556
00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:16.039
<v Speaker 1>It? Did you know?

557
00:26:16.759 --> 00:26:17.160
<v Speaker 2>This is?

558
00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:20.319
<v Speaker 1>This is actually uh kind of a claim to fame

559
00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:22.039
<v Speaker 1>of mine. But I don't know that I've seen Sidney

560
00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Sweeney in anything.

561
00:26:23.319 --> 00:26:28.000
<v Speaker 2>She was in this movie called And You Have, by

562
00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:30.960
<v Speaker 2>the way, I can't remember what it was called, but

563
00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:36.240
<v Speaker 2>her and her boyfriend end up being I might be

564
00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:39.599
<v Speaker 2>called the Voyeurs or something. But her and her boyfriend

565
00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:42.680
<v Speaker 2>live in this high rise and they see this other

566
00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:47.279
<v Speaker 2>high rise across the street, and these two people like

567
00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:49.720
<v Speaker 2>boyfriend girlfriend are having sex with people, but then they're

568
00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:54.039
<v Speaker 2>also killing people at the Oh. So she was she

569
00:26:54.200 --> 00:26:57.240
<v Speaker 2>was she was in Once upon a Time in Hollywood.

570
00:26:58.160 --> 00:27:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, okay, she was in that. She was in

571
00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Madam Web Madam Webb. She was another bomb by the way,

572
00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, yeah, no, and like she what's thew is

573
00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:14.440
<v Speaker 1>she and Euphorias are claiming she is she in Handmaid's Tailor. No, no, don't, okay,

574
00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:15.839
<v Speaker 1>I never have seen either of those.

575
00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:19.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, she's in what's it? There's one? There's like there's

576
00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:22.839
<v Speaker 2>something called the The Maid, the Housemaid.

577
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:25.079
<v Speaker 1>I think, as well, yeah that when that's free, I'll

578
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:25.759
<v Speaker 1>check that out.

579
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:28.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I guess it's based on a series of books.

580
00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I had no idea, but it seems strange and

581
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>that's good enough for me. Like, and what's her name,

582
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:36.759
<v Speaker 1>Amanda Sigfried or whatever her name is? Yes, look like

583
00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, is that Sydney Sweeney playing two different characters?

584
00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Right? Yeah, Yeah, that's another woman who I thought her

585
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:48.920
<v Speaker 2>career is kind of taking off and now it's kind

586
00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:51.000
<v Speaker 2>of stagnated a little. Yeah, I would say.

587
00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:52.799
<v Speaker 1>I had some thoughts on that, but it's not for

588
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:55.160
<v Speaker 1>it's not for off topic. I can tell you that, right.

589
00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:58.440
<v Speaker 2>That's fine. So Glenn Powell, we can agree with miscast.

590
00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:01.319
<v Speaker 2>But now I mean, I bring up the executive producer.

591
00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:05.000
<v Speaker 2>It makes sense I think wanted to take Yeah, which

592
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:06.359
<v Speaker 2>makes sense, okay.

593
00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:08.359
<v Speaker 1>And good for him for betting the money he's made

594
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:10.640
<v Speaker 1>on it, Like, and you're not he's taking quite the

595
00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:12.880
<v Speaker 1>l but I'm sure he wasn't the only one putting

596
00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:15.680
<v Speaker 1>money up, so you know, lose a couple million. That's

597
00:28:15.680 --> 00:28:19.960
<v Speaker 1>honestly my dream in life. Kevin Smith made Clerks, made

598
00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:22.960
<v Speaker 1>eighteen million dollars on Clerks. Every movie other than Jay

599
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:25.680
<v Speaker 1>and Silent Bob strike Back since then has lost money.

600
00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:29.400
<v Speaker 1>He's making movies that he wants to make with his friends.

601
00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Well he's getting funding for it. I mean, it's not

602
00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:33.759
<v Speaker 1>like it's his dime. It sometimes it is. Sometimes it's

603
00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.799
<v Speaker 1>part doing freaking Tusk with Justin Long or your Tusk

604
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>and then I wasn't a Red State that he did.

605
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:43.440
<v Speaker 1>That was another big that he was in there. Yeah, yeah,

606
00:28:43.519 --> 00:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>and he gets these people to come on like I

607
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:47.759
<v Speaker 1>would love to be doing that rather than a bunch

608
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>of you know, be beholden to block like what Glenn

609
00:28:50.200 --> 00:28:52.359
<v Speaker 1>Powell the path that he could be on. You know,

610
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Cass is an a list actor doing you know schlock

611
00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:56.880
<v Speaker 1>that you and I will I'm sure love, yeah, but

612
00:28:58.359 --> 00:29:02.119
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily if you're in an artiste wouldn't necessarily want

613
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>to be doing so good for him, But this one

614
00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:07.680
<v Speaker 1>it didn't feel like the right fit for him. But

615
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:09.359
<v Speaker 1>you got to take risks, you do.

616
00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Jim Carrey number twenty three, Right right, you

617
00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:16.200
<v Speaker 2>got Truman Show, Will Ferrell, Stranger than Fiction. Yeah, it

618
00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:18.119
<v Speaker 2>was another one. Everything must go.

619
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I didn't hate Stranger Than Fiction, and I.

620
00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Don't think most people hate it.

621
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

622
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I thought I thought it was forgettable, but I was like, yeah, fine.

623
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:28.279
<v Speaker 2>It never really bordered on cult classic, but I think

624
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:31.480
<v Speaker 2>most people watched it thought it was fine. Margaret Qually

625
00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:34.799
<v Speaker 2>is a character that I think when I look back

626
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:36.400
<v Speaker 2>on the stuff that she's done that I've known that

627
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:38.319
<v Speaker 2>she's done. I mean, I know she's done other stuff,

628
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:40.799
<v Speaker 2>I think she might be getting type cast a little bit. Yeah,

629
00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:43.920
<v Speaker 2>and now she is the real life daughter of Andy mcdell.

630
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:47.279
<v Speaker 2>You remember Andy mcdell from Groundhog Days on and so forth.

631
00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:51.480
<v Speaker 2>The eyebrows, I think give off a like the bit

632
00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:54.720
<v Speaker 2>I think the menacing, the bigger your eyebrows are, the

633
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:57.839
<v Speaker 2>more like you're meant to be, like the villain Peter

634
00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Gallagher on the OC right, and I believe wasn't he

635
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't he also the guy that was banging a Net

636
00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:09.960
<v Speaker 2>Benning in American Beauty, Like yeah, like she was committing

637
00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:13.079
<v Speaker 2>adulter at this guy. Like he's portrayed as this like

638
00:30:13.559 --> 00:30:17.400
<v Speaker 2>overbearing in both those not overbearing, but he's portrayed as

639
00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:20.319
<v Speaker 2>this not likable person. And I guess towards the end

640
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:22.000
<v Speaker 2>of the OC, and I didn't watch a whole lot

641
00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:23.359
<v Speaker 2>of the OC, but I guess towards.

642
00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:25.599
<v Speaker 1>The end he became more of a redeeming character. Yeah.

643
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, it's not the point.

644
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:29.119
<v Speaker 1>But to your point, I do want to say nothing

645
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:32.920
<v Speaker 1>about what actually happens in the movie. I'm saying me Ben,

646
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:35.839
<v Speaker 1>watching the trailer. To your point about Margaret Qualley, I'm

647
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:38.559
<v Speaker 1>just watching the trailer. Yeah, when you pitch the movie

648
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sitting there watching, like, yeah, okay, I can

649
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:41.799
<v Speaker 1>get behind this. And I'm sitting there and I'm like,

650
00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:43.920
<v Speaker 1>it's going to turn out that she sets him up

651
00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:46.200
<v Speaker 1>for failure, Like that was just based on her look

652
00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:49.480
<v Speaker 1>in the trailer. I was sitting there and I was like, Oh,

653
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>she's going to turn out to be the bad guy.

654
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:54.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that's what happens. I'm saying watching the trailer,

655
00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:56.279
<v Speaker 1>the look that she gave me. Immediately in the back

656
00:30:56.279 --> 00:30:57.720
<v Speaker 1>of my mind, I'm like, the big twist is going

657
00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:01.039
<v Speaker 1>to be she was behind everything, right, and like that's

658
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:03.920
<v Speaker 1>just how she looks. I don't know what it is, Well, you.

659
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Trim up those eyebrows and you might get a heroine role,

660
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:09.319
<v Speaker 2>you know. And what now I think about the other

661
00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:11.960
<v Speaker 2>stuff that I know that she's done. She was kind,

662
00:31:12.119 --> 00:31:14.400
<v Speaker 2>She was she also actually, now I think about it,

663
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:16.279
<v Speaker 2>she was in Once upon a Time in Hollywood too,

664
00:31:16.599 --> 00:31:19.599
<v Speaker 2>because she was the one who was like the underage

665
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:22.839
<v Speaker 2>girl that Brad Pitt picked up hitch hiking and she

666
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.559
<v Speaker 2>brought so she kind of like opened Brad Pitt up

667
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:29.400
<v Speaker 2>to all this, you know what could have been pain

668
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:33.200
<v Speaker 2>getting the whole ranch against him, you know, and she

669
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:34.759
<v Speaker 2>was kind of like, you don't know how to feel

670
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:37.960
<v Speaker 2>about this character? Is she, you know, trying to trap

671
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:40.319
<v Speaker 2>this guy and and claim rape or what? You know

672
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:44.960
<v Speaker 2>what I mean? And then the substance did you ever

673
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:45.200
<v Speaker 2>see this?

674
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, have I ever seen the substance?

675
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:48.359
<v Speaker 2>She was as well?

676
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:52.160
<v Speaker 1>And I think she had almost five full lines in that.

677
00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:53.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh so she wasn't in it that?

678
00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, she was, but they did. Have you not

679
00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>seen it?

680
00:31:56.279 --> 00:31:56.880
<v Speaker 2>No? I have not.

681
00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:01.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's a metaphor, but basically all the

682
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:05.599
<v Speaker 1>lines are when basically her and to me more to me,

683
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:08.319
<v Speaker 1>Moore are the same person. She's the younger version that

684
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:11.200
<v Speaker 1>comes out of her. And when Margaret Quality's on stage,

685
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:15.559
<v Speaker 1>it's boobs and butts and dancing and partying and drugs,

686
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:19.160
<v Speaker 1>and then the character growth and the intellect and the

687
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>dialogue is all when it's to me more, Margaret Quality

688
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:25.359
<v Speaker 1>really doesn't say much in the movie's.

689
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:30.359
<v Speaker 2>She's not portrayed in a likable Oh no, exactly, no.

690
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Now the only now, the only one I can think of.

691
00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:34.799
<v Speaker 2>And Ben, I don't know if you've seen this movie,

692
00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:37.400
<v Speaker 2>but it is. And I could say I wasn't gonna

693
00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:39.319
<v Speaker 2>say this, but now that I think about it, this

694
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:41.599
<v Speaker 2>is one of my favorite movies of all time. Hu

695
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:45.039
<v Speaker 2>is the Nice Guys with Russell Crow and Ryan Gosling

696
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:48.240
<v Speaker 2>underrated by her for absolutely can I mean, I have

697
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:51.119
<v Speaker 2>to what's her name from Spider Man's in it too,

698
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:55.000
<v Speaker 2>and Gory Rice. She is phenomenal and she's like fourteen

699
00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:58.480
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. In it you have all these weird characters.

700
00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Keith David's in it is well gozz like but by

701
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:04.000
<v Speaker 2>the way, shout out to Goz like this is gonna

702
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:07.480
<v Speaker 2>be a great SNL. It's Gosling Week on SNL and he,

703
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, just the stuff that he puts out. He

704
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:13.039
<v Speaker 2>is such he's so good looking, and people just think

705
00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:16.039
<v Speaker 2>he can't do comedy. He is a comedic genius. Is

706
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:19.880
<v Speaker 2>he's so good at comedy. I watched SNL this past

707
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:22.319
<v Speaker 2>week Connor Story hosted. You know Connor Story is.

708
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:23.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

709
00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:25.880
<v Speaker 2>There is an HBO Max show that's still in season

710
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:27.839
<v Speaker 2>one or maybe season one just got done called Heated

711
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:29.519
<v Speaker 2>Rivalry about these.

712
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:30.599
<v Speaker 1>Two familiar with that?

713
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:35.599
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so he's one of the stars and yeah, so

714
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:37.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm just kind of like, you know, when he's hosting,

715
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:41.640
<v Speaker 2>like I have low expected he was great, and you know,

716
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:43.279
<v Speaker 2>like the comedy now you.

717
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Have the elevated expectations with Gossling though, so.

718
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:49.880
<v Speaker 2>You got it well, but listen, like he has hosted

719
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:51.720
<v Speaker 2>several times. In fact, he might be joining the five

720
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:56.279
<v Speaker 2>Timers club this week. I don't know, but there, you know,

721
00:33:56.400 --> 00:33:59.039
<v Speaker 2>once you have this great episode, it's tough to live

722
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:02.720
<v Speaker 2>up to it, but you do have. Usually when you

723
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:06.039
<v Speaker 2>come back, you'll have one or two sketches that are like, oh,

724
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:08.480
<v Speaker 2>that was dynamite. Yeah, you know, like you'll you know,

725
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:10.360
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know what his you know, like his

726
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:12.719
<v Speaker 2>first time hosting or whatever, but they SNL makes a

727
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:14.360
<v Speaker 2>big deal out of it when Goslin.

728
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, well one of the most I don't even

729
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:19.760
<v Speaker 1>watch SNL regularly, and I know the one or the

730
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:22.639
<v Speaker 1>him when the alien subduct.

731
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Was okay, but that's not a Gosling vehicle. That is

732
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:27.000
<v Speaker 2>a Kate mckinnac vehicle, and that's a recurring thing. But

733
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:29.480
<v Speaker 2>he was great in that they did this this other

734
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Italian food a thing that that they did it once

735
00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:36.679
<v Speaker 2>with Adam Driver, who's also another underrated host, but when

736
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Gosling did it. Basically it's like a taste test and

737
00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:43.159
<v Speaker 2>you think you're having this great Italian food and then

738
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:45.960
<v Speaker 2>they reveal, oh, it's actually Pizza Hut's new Pasta Pikes,

739
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:48.320
<v Speaker 2>and then Gosling and Cecily Strong go off on the

740
00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:50.320
<v Speaker 2>guy like how could you do this to us? You know,

741
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Farley did it back in the day with like, oh,

742
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:55.599
<v Speaker 2>you're not drinking coffee, you're drinking senca or whatever, and

743
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:58.000
<v Speaker 2>then he loses. So that's another great one. They did

744
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:01.119
<v Speaker 2>another one where him and Vanessa Bayer are believe Santa

745
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:04.679
<v Speaker 2>is real. They're an adult Hollywood holiday party and they

746
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:07.119
<v Speaker 2>think I could go off on this because there's so

747
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:08.880
<v Speaker 2>much good stuff with with Gosling on that.

748
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:10.880
<v Speaker 1>So what did the other guys have to do with

749
00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:11.559
<v Speaker 1>this movie?

750
00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Margaret Qualley is and the other guys as well.

751
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Now she plays this kind of like Damsel in Distress

752
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:24.000
<v Speaker 2>type character, but then you find out like she was

753
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:28.199
<v Speaker 2>kind of like shooting porn and and she was like

754
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:32.840
<v Speaker 2>this very granola liberal anti and she she was on

755
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:36.559
<v Speaker 2>the portrayed as on the good guy's side, but she

756
00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:39.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of like you don't really like you know she

757
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:42.880
<v Speaker 2>she doesn't. She makes some choices in that where in

758
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:45.880
<v Speaker 2>that movie her character does that, You're like, why would

759
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:48.679
<v Speaker 2>she do this? She's screwing everything up. So even then

760
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:52.360
<v Speaker 2>where she's this damn Damsel and just just stress character,

761
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:54.920
<v Speaker 2>you kind of like don't like her. You have at

762
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:57.400
<v Speaker 2>least party you doesn't like her. And it goes back

763
00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:00.519
<v Speaker 2>to the eyebrows. I just think like you can't have big, thick,

764
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:05.559
<v Speaker 2>luscious eyebrows like that and expect to be treated as like, ah, man,

765
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:09.360
<v Speaker 2>she like I love this character. Good actor. Yeah, same

766
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:11.000
<v Speaker 2>thing with Edward Norton.

767
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Right, but you gotta look and again redeeming character, and

768
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:17.760
<v Speaker 1>you can't cast that kind of person in a movie

769
00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:20.639
<v Speaker 1>that you're intending to be twisty, or if you are,

770
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:23.440
<v Speaker 1>then you gotta subvert, you know what I mean. Like, yeah,

771
00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:26.199
<v Speaker 1>she was pretty off putting most of the movie. Like

772
00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:28.480
<v Speaker 1>anytime she came up, you're like, oh, what's gonna happen?

773
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:30.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, even like when they were the flashback when they

774
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:33.000
<v Speaker 2>were young, right, But then but then you know, she's like,

775
00:36:33.159 --> 00:36:37.719
<v Speaker 2>oh she she says something to the effect of like, oh,

776
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:40.239
<v Speaker 2>you live in a poor neighborhood or something like that,

777
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:42.480
<v Speaker 2>and then and then he doesn't answer, and she's like,

778
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:44.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't care. Yeah, and then you're kind

779
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:46.239
<v Speaker 2>of like, okay, well, what's you know.

780
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:48.719
<v Speaker 1>It's a little tragic that that back and forth. It's

781
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:51.280
<v Speaker 1>probably the most complex thing in the entire movie.

782
00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:54.400
<v Speaker 2>I wonder how many attractive girls when he was that

783
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:58.119
<v Speaker 2>age growing up, how many attractive girls because he probably

784
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:00.599
<v Speaker 2>had that stigma Oh sure, because I assume he went

785
00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:02.480
<v Speaker 2>to a good school because that's what his mom was

786
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:07.119
<v Speaker 2>working so hard for. How many girls like treated him

787
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:09.639
<v Speaker 2>the way that she did, where she's like yeah, I.

788
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Don't care, Yeah, you know, that's fair.

789
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:14.760
<v Speaker 2>And then you're kind of thinking the whole movie, you know,

790
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:17.199
<v Speaker 2>because then she comes back into his life, and then

791
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:20.320
<v Speaker 2>there's a twist with her, and then there's like another

792
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:22.480
<v Speaker 2>massive twist in the story which I didn't see coming.

793
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:24.679
<v Speaker 2>Did you see the twist coming with her husband?

794
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:26.800
<v Speaker 1>No? No, Yeah, I didn't see that coming.

795
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:29.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And quite frankly, I probably should have picked up

796
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:31.159
<v Speaker 2>on more of what she was going to be in

797
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:34.119
<v Speaker 2>this movie, and I didn't. Yeah, until like the end,

798
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:36.159
<v Speaker 2>I can kind of see what's going on the other

799
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:41.800
<v Speaker 2>thing too. Have you ever felt like his character you

800
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:46.000
<v Speaker 2>start off innocent enough. This is Glenn Powell's character. Start

801
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:49.480
<v Speaker 2>off innocent enough, but then you make one decision, and

802
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:52.079
<v Speaker 2>then you make another decision, and then you make another decision,

803
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:53.920
<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, you're kind of like I

804
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:56.280
<v Speaker 2>think I said this on your show. You're balancing all

805
00:37:56.320 --> 00:37:59.559
<v Speaker 2>this stuff like a house of cards. Sure, and and

806
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:02.679
<v Speaker 2>then you know, like, hey, as long as nobody moves,

807
00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:05.440
<v Speaker 2>as long as nothing changes, I'm gonna be fine, and

808
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:09.320
<v Speaker 2>this is gonna be great. But if one thing goes wrong.

809
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:13.039
<v Speaker 1>You're basically describing the entire five seasons of Breaking Bed

810
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:15.519
<v Speaker 1>slowly totally. Yeah.

811
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, but and I bring up Silicon Valley. Who

812
00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Zach Woods in Silicon Valley, who was in this movie

813
00:38:19.960 --> 00:38:23.760
<v Speaker 2>as well, it always was like with those movies, the

814
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:26.360
<v Speaker 2>stakes got higher and higher, and then you'd have the

815
00:38:26.519 --> 00:38:30.599
<v Speaker 2>dewys makina I think I'm pronounce coming in at the

816
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:31.960
<v Speaker 2>very end of the show or the end of the

817
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:34.320
<v Speaker 2>episode or the end of an arc, and it's like, Okay, well,

818
00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:38.719
<v Speaker 2>I guess that meant nothing. But but what was great

819
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:41.039
<v Speaker 2>about Silicon Valley is that would happen every episode, but

820
00:38:41.079 --> 00:38:44.039
<v Speaker 2>then like the very last scene would set you up like, all,

821
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:47.000
<v Speaker 2>something worse is coming now, you know what I mean, Like, which,

822
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:51.159
<v Speaker 2>which I always liked, you know, encouraged serial viewing. Okay,

823
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:51.599
<v Speaker 2>so that.

824
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:56.159
<v Speaker 1>Was conversely, this this flick towards the end, it actively

825
00:38:56.280 --> 00:39:00.360
<v Speaker 1>encouraged you to not like Powell's character. Yeah, like and

826
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:02.199
<v Speaker 1>he basically says as much.

827
00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I thought he says right at the beginning,

828
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:07.440
<v Speaker 2>like this is a tragedy. Yeah, and it's not the

829
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:10.119
<v Speaker 2>tragedy that you think it is. I think it is right.

830
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:12.360
<v Speaker 1>And I thought that was an interesting kind of little

831
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:14.960
<v Speaker 1>twist because you said when you came on my radio show,

832
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>unlike Send Help, you weren't smiling. Yeah, it was.

833
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:20.800
<v Speaker 2>It was one of those movies where I'm not sure

834
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:23.960
<v Speaker 2>how I felt. Send Help I found myself smiling at

835
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:25.480
<v Speaker 2>the end of this one. I'm kind of like, it's

836
00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:28.199
<v Speaker 2>just it was a very deadpan, serah screen.

837
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:30.199
<v Speaker 1>But you saying that because you had seen it at

838
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:31.800
<v Speaker 1>that point and I had not seen it. I went

839
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:33.960
<v Speaker 1>to see it later in the afternoon. You saying that

840
00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:36.480
<v Speaker 1>influenced how I was watching the movie, and I'm sitting

841
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:37.880
<v Speaker 1>there halfway through the film and I'm like.

842
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I said I didn't know how to feel.

843
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:40.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that doesn't that.

844
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Well like this is. I'm just telling you. I'm sitting

845
00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:44.079
<v Speaker 1>there halfway through the movie and I'm like, you know,

846
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Bulky just might be soft.

847
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:48.679
<v Speaker 2>Like right, exactly, yes, dude, right.

848
00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:51.280
<v Speaker 1>But by the end of the movie, I was like, oh, no,

849
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:54.599
<v Speaker 1>I get the point that he was trying to make, because.

850
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Which is I wish we did spoilers on the show.

851
00:39:56.400 --> 00:39:57.159
<v Speaker 1>We could do spoilers.

852
00:39:57.199 --> 00:39:58.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to. I mean, I want to keep

853
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:00.519
<v Speaker 2>the art streak alive here. But there a lot to

854
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:03.239
<v Speaker 2>discuss with the ending too, of like how we're meant

855
00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:06.119
<v Speaker 2>to feel, what's the theme, what's the message at the end,

856
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:09.960
<v Speaker 2>and and by the way, the way that this ended,

857
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:14.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm spinning in my head because yeah, it's the end

858
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:17.199
<v Speaker 2>of the story, but the story kind of continues, and

859
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:19.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of like, well, clearly I know what's gonna

860
00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:23.280
<v Speaker 2>happen here, you know. Oh, I'll tell you off air.

861
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:25.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure I know what's gonna happen, Okay, And

862
00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:28.119
<v Speaker 2>it's not gonna be good for either one of those

863
00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:31.519
<v Speaker 2>characters that were in the final scene, but I'll get

864
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:35.519
<v Speaker 2>into that later. A theme of the show show message

865
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:38.920
<v Speaker 2>of this movie, because I think I portrayed it like

866
00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:40.639
<v Speaker 2>it was a have and have not type of thing,

867
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:43.199
<v Speaker 2>but the have not was really supposed to be a

868
00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:46.480
<v Speaker 2>half and he was, well, I don't want to reveal too.

869
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:48.599
<v Speaker 1>Much, I'm gonna I mean, I'm gonna say this, and

870
00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I think this is probably what's not sitting well at

871
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:54.199
<v Speaker 1>least with me about the movie. But also, like I

872
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:56.960
<v Speaker 1>typically like the darker stuff. But if you asked me,

873
00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:00.000
<v Speaker 1>gun to my head, what's the overarching message of this movie,

874
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:03.119
<v Speaker 1>I would say it's that money buys happiness, at least

875
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:05.559
<v Speaker 1>to a certain extent. I will say they dark knighted

876
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:07.400
<v Speaker 1>in this movie. They did the last two minutes of

877
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:09.400
<v Speaker 1>The Dark Knight, which I've established I hate the last

878
00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:12.119
<v Speaker 1>two minutes of the Dark Knight. Yeah, when they explain everything,

879
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:15.239
<v Speaker 1>because the theme of the movie to me was the

880
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:18.039
<v Speaker 1>mother at the beginning of the movie says, I want

881
00:41:18.119 --> 00:41:20.320
<v Speaker 1>you to go on to live the life that you

882
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:22.880
<v Speaker 1>expect to live, and about that you should live, that

883
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:25.920
<v Speaker 1>you should live, and thirty minutes into the movie before

884
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:27.800
<v Speaker 1>they just spell it out and hold your hand because

885
00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:30.880
<v Speaker 1>we're just a theater full of cretance. But before there,

886
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting there and I'm like, you know, he's got

887
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:36.519
<v Speaker 1>a good gig, he's seeing an attractive girl. I was like,

888
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:38.800
<v Speaker 1>he really doesn't need to do any of this, Like

889
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:41.320
<v Speaker 1>life is in such a good place right now, Like,

890
00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:44.440
<v Speaker 1>just keep doing this. And then eventually he even comes

891
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:46.679
<v Speaker 1>out and says, oh, I really didn't need to do

892
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:47.119
<v Speaker 1>any of this.

893
00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:49.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, oh, come on, because I think we're

894
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:49.840
<v Speaker 2>all thinking that.

895
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:52.920
<v Speaker 1>And so it is that money doesn't buy happiness. But

896
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:55.559
<v Speaker 1>also he had a good finance job, he had a

897
00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:57.559
<v Speaker 1>good life, he had good kids happening with it.

898
00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:00.880
<v Speaker 2>And at the same time, to that point, he had

899
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:05.079
<v Speaker 2>already committed murder. True like he before. If you go

900
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:08.320
<v Speaker 2>back before the murder a spoiler alert, he commits murder. Yeah,

901
00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:10.320
<v Speaker 2>before the murder. I mean, I would say he didn't

902
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:12.719
<v Speaker 2>have the greatest job. And you know what, now that

903
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:15.559
<v Speaker 2>I think of it, he did get kind of demoted. Yeah,

904
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:18.000
<v Speaker 2>and that was before the first Yeah, maybe that was

905
00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:20.639
<v Speaker 2>part of the catalyst too, probably where he's working hard

906
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:21.960
<v Speaker 2>and he's doing everything right.

907
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:24.199
<v Speaker 1>And then you get less pay and then and then.

908
00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:26.760
<v Speaker 2>You're you're not rewarded for that, you're penalized for it.

909
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:29.599
<v Speaker 2>And why why was he penalized for.

910
00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:34.079
<v Speaker 1>It because of some rich jerks? Some rich jerks, kid exactly? Yeah,

911
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:37.280
<v Speaker 1>and then who does he go after first?

912
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:40.800
<v Speaker 2>A rich Well no, but but we find out that

913
00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:41.760
<v Speaker 2>that that guy wasn't a.

914
00:42:41.800 --> 00:42:43.519
<v Speaker 1>Jerk, did we?

915
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, that was Bill Camp. That was his character

916
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:49.159
<v Speaker 2>because he's the one who gave him the job.

917
00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:52.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh oh oh, I was talking about the kid with

918
00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:56.159
<v Speaker 1>the anchor. Yeah, that was his kid because they met

919
00:42:56.199 --> 00:42:59.559
<v Speaker 1>at the funeral. Oh oh right, right right, yeah, okay, yeah,

920
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:00.679
<v Speaker 1>I meant the kid was a jerk.

921
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:01.559
<v Speaker 2>Kid was a jerk?

922
00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:05.559
<v Speaker 1>Okay, spoil right, Yeah, you're right. The uncle is probably

923
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:06.639
<v Speaker 1>one of the better characters.

924
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Would I would say he was of all the people

925
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:11.800
<v Speaker 2>that that we get to be introduced that were red

926
00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:17.440
<v Speaker 2>fellows besides the mother and uh the uh yeah, besides

927
00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:20.519
<v Speaker 2>the mother, the uncle, uncle, whatever his name was, was the

928
00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:23.440
<v Speaker 2>only guy that you in fact, you know, you talk

929
00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:26.039
<v Speaker 2>about characters you rooted for in this movie, it was

930
00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Jessica Henwick's character, which is Ruth, and then the uncle.

931
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:35.119
<v Speaker 2>There's nobody else, you know, and and uh and I

932
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:37.360
<v Speaker 2>don't know there. I think I brought this up too.

933
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:40.239
<v Speaker 2>As long as I brought up Breaking bad U my

934
00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:42.760
<v Speaker 2>boss for one of my other gigs. His wife stopped

935
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:45.440
<v Speaker 2>watching Breaking Back because she's like, I can't I can't

936
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:47.880
<v Speaker 2>root for any of these characters anymore. Like what's the point.

937
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:50.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't identify with any of them. I can't root

938
00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:52.679
<v Speaker 2>for him. There's no positivity. I'm done. And she stopped

939
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:55.159
<v Speaker 2>watching it. And I don't blame her. I mean, it

940
00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:57.039
<v Speaker 2>was a great it was a great show.

941
00:43:57.239 --> 00:43:57.719
<v Speaker 1>Never met her.

942
00:43:57.760 --> 00:43:59.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm judging her, okay, but it was a great show.

943
00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:02.320
<v Speaker 2>But the same time, Ben, you know, you think about

944
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:05.800
<v Speaker 2>what Walter White it was mister Chips to Scarface. Well

945
00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:08.920
<v Speaker 2>you rooted for mister Chips. Were you rooting for Scarface?

946
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:09.679
<v Speaker 1>Some people?

947
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Some people probably weren't, but you think about what he

948
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:15.960
<v Speaker 2>had to do And then Guss and then Jesse, who

949
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:19.320
<v Speaker 2>I think obviously had a very redeeming arc that kind

950
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:23.760
<v Speaker 2>of resolved itself in El Camino. But Mike, as much

951
00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:25.679
<v Speaker 2>as I love Mike, he was not a good guy.

952
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:28.320
<v Speaker 1>No, now I feel that. But see, it's just like politics.

953
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:29.920
<v Speaker 1>You just got to put an evil next to a

954
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:32.480
<v Speaker 1>greater evil, and as soon as you introduced like Todd

955
00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:35.559
<v Speaker 1>into it, I'm like, oh no, Walter, well it's not

956
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:38.360
<v Speaker 1>that bad. I can I can pull for this. You know,

957
00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:41.079
<v Speaker 1>That's how they kept me coming back, Like oh, Gust's

958
00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:43.159
<v Speaker 1>an evil bastard, and like, you know, that's how they

959
00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:45.960
<v Speaker 1>kept me coming back, right, But like I that didn't

960
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:47.960
<v Speaker 1>bother me at all. But in this I think it

961
00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:51.840
<v Speaker 1>is the the mismatch of styles, like the jovial nature. Again,

962
00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:55.360
<v Speaker 1>they went for a roses aesthetic. They went for I'm

963
00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:57.480
<v Speaker 1>trying to think of other movies that that stick out.

964
00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:00.519
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean jovial style like it's it's even

965
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:04.079
<v Speaker 1>listed is a thriller comedy, like it is done in

966
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:08.119
<v Speaker 1>a lighthearted way, even though what's happening is is not.

967
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Whereas Breaking Bad was like, no, we're actually gonna spend

968
00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:15.239
<v Speaker 1>four episodes building to this horrible thing. That happens, and

969
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:17.639
<v Speaker 1>you are supposed to think that it is horrible that

970
00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:20.519
<v Speaker 1>this happened, whereas you watch someone die here in like

971
00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:22.159
<v Speaker 1>a hilarious fashion, and you're like.

972
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Aha, so so how about this. Maybe this is a

973
00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:28.159
<v Speaker 2>good analogy for the for the Red Fellow characters. And

974
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:32.039
<v Speaker 2>we're trying, we're struggling to identify this before BF Wellington. Okay,

975
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:35.239
<v Speaker 2>yeh is a puff pastry stuffed with a like a

976
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:39.679
<v Speaker 2>really good steak, right, character character development? Right, Yeah, you

977
00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:43.239
<v Speaker 2>peel back the layers and there's actually this actually juicy

978
00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:46.639
<v Speaker 2>big entree right in the inside. The characters in this

979
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:49.480
<v Speaker 2>movie more like cream puffs. You know, you have this

980
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:53.159
<v Speaker 2>pastry shell and inside it's just this superfluous cream. There's

981
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:55.920
<v Speaker 2>nothing there. Yeah, like there. It just wasn't real. It

982
00:45:55.960 --> 00:45:58.800
<v Speaker 2>was like they were cardboards, two dimensional stand ups in

983
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:00.119
<v Speaker 2>a world of three dims.

984
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Which people is how I would describe the characters in

985
00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:06.480
<v Speaker 1>American Psycho. But if you do it the right way,

986
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:08.840
<v Speaker 1>you become a classic if you It's kind of like

987
00:46:08.920 --> 00:46:10.960
<v Speaker 1>how we said, or at least I said.

988
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:13.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but okay, But part of the allure of American

989
00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Psycho was us not understanding killing for killing.

990
00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:19.079
<v Speaker 1>Sake, sure, but I guess what we.

991
00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Can all identify with, Like why you'd want to kill

992
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:22.599
<v Speaker 2>somebody for a fifty billion.

993
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:24.599
<v Speaker 1>Dollars, I guess, But like I guess. The point I'm

994
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:27.519
<v Speaker 1>making is is like when we watched Caught Stealing and

995
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:30.159
<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is like someone saw a Guy

996
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:32.639
<v Speaker 1>Ritchie movie and was like, oh, I can do a

997
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Guy Ritchie movie and then no, you can't because you're

998
00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:38.320
<v Speaker 1>not Guy Ritchie. To me, this person was like, oh,

999
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:42.760
<v Speaker 1>look what the characters. These characters are all superficial versions

1000
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.679
<v Speaker 1>of people that you've met in real life. Like everyone

1001
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:48.239
<v Speaker 1>knows a Patrick Bateman who's work I've worked in the

1002
00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:50.320
<v Speaker 1>sales world. I know the guy who you're like, Okay,

1003
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:52.920
<v Speaker 1>don't tell anything about your clients to that guy, Like

1004
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:55.559
<v Speaker 1>I know that person in the sales world, right, And

1005
00:46:55.599 --> 00:46:57.559
<v Speaker 1>You're sitting there watching American Psycho and I'm sure this

1006
00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:00.000
<v Speaker 1>birs like I could do an American Psycho style movie

1007
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:03.280
<v Speaker 1>about coming up in America, and then though you can't

1008
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:06.320
<v Speaker 1>because like there's an extra sauce that goes into making

1009
00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:08.760
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff that you do not possess, and

1010
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:11.239
<v Speaker 1>it was not evident in this movie. And whether that's

1011
00:47:11.239 --> 00:47:14.599
<v Speaker 1>on Glenn Powell or the director, because Christian Bale is

1012
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:18.760
<v Speaker 1>a top tier actor of our generation. So that absolutely

1013
00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:20.719
<v Speaker 1>lends itself to why that movie has looked at the

1014
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:22.880
<v Speaker 1>way it is as well. But there's just to me,

1015
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:25.079
<v Speaker 1>I found myself thinking back to that that was.

1016
00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:27.760
<v Speaker 2>Kind of Christian Bale's breakout too. Yeah, yeah, it was.

1017
00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:30.880
<v Speaker 1>It was definitely up there, and like I found myself

1018
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:33.440
<v Speaker 1>the entire time I was watching it thinking of American

1019
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Psycho and that I think is a really interesting movie

1020
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:38.920
<v Speaker 1>that I hated the first time I saw it. Really

1021
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:41.119
<v Speaker 1>I didn't get it. I was too young fourteen.

1022
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Was that based on a novel?

1023
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:43.559
<v Speaker 1>I think? Yeah?

1024
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Now that who's the guy who wrote the Edward Norton

1025
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:52.920
<v Speaker 2>the Club? I always American Psychle.

1026
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so. It

1027
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:56.880
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the same director, was it. No.

1028
00:47:56.760 --> 00:47:59.199
<v Speaker 2>Now you want to get some trivia and you might

1029
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:00.960
<v Speaker 2>have to fact check me out this. There is a

1030
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:03.559
<v Speaker 2>movie that came out rip James Vanderbeek, who just passed

1031
00:48:03.559 --> 00:48:06.559
<v Speaker 2>away a week or two ago. There is a movie

1032
00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:09.400
<v Speaker 2>that came out called the Rules of Attraction. Okay, this

1033
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:12.440
<v Speaker 2>was like early two thousands, mid two thousands, after Dawson's

1034
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:15.079
<v Speaker 2>Creek and Vanderbeek was kind of going on his film career.

1035
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:19.400
<v Speaker 2>I believe Vanderbeek's character in that movie his last name

1036
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:21.880
<v Speaker 2>was Bateman, and it was sort of like a crossover,

1037
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:24.559
<v Speaker 2>like he was Patrick Bateman's real life brother.

1038
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:27.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's funny. Is Sean Bateman Jean Bateman?

1039
00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:29.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is wild? When I was like, holy cow,

1040
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:32.559
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if there is any relationship from

1041
00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Rules of Attraction to American Ship at all. But that's

1042
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:37.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of cool that, you know, I don't know.

1043
00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:41.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, same universe type of deal. It's hilarious. Yeah, but

1044
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:44.079
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, so to me, yeah, just an empty shell

1045
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:46.400
<v Speaker 1>of something that like I wasn't offended. I wasn't mad

1046
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:48.320
<v Speaker 1>that I saw it. I don't think I would have

1047
00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:51.280
<v Speaker 1>went to theaters to see this, right, personally.

1048
00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:52.719
<v Speaker 2>It's one of those things where and I was trying

1049
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:56.400
<v Speaker 2>to tell Surfry about this at work. Now I'm I'm

1050
00:48:56.480 --> 00:48:59.199
<v Speaker 2>motoring into the home stretch here, Do you have anything else?

1051
00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Now? I'm so.

1052
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Then, so I was telling Sturfry about this fun idea, yeah,

1053
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:10.239
<v Speaker 2>or a kind of a quasi original idea. Execution missed,

1054
00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:13.920
<v Speaker 2>did not stick. The landing which which is unfortunate because

1055
00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:16.840
<v Speaker 2>you know the you know, the way that you tell

1056
00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:19.519
<v Speaker 2>a story and a trailer is supposed to capture us

1057
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:21.840
<v Speaker 2>and try to you know, get us, and then you

1058
00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:24.800
<v Speaker 2>actually watch the product and it's like, you know, it's

1059
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:28.320
<v Speaker 2>like meeting your hero, right yeah, yeah exactly kind of

1060
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:30.320
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, this is not what I what I I

1061
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:30.719
<v Speaker 2>don't know.

1062
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I feel like comparatively to your attitude towards him, I

1063
00:49:35.559 --> 00:49:39.280
<v Speaker 1>don't know that I am sold on Glenn Powell as like,

1064
00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:41.519
<v Speaker 1>oh this is I made the comparison like for me,

1065
00:49:41.639 --> 00:49:43.599
<v Speaker 1>like if Tom Hardy's in a movie, like even the

1066
00:49:43.639 --> 00:49:46.000
<v Speaker 1>trailer could suck and be like that movie might be

1067
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:47.679
<v Speaker 1>freaking awesome and I'll check it out.

1068
00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:51.639
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let me just clarify my Glenn Powell. Okay,

1069
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:55.039
<v Speaker 2>my boss, the same one and whose wife does not

1070
00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:57.800
<v Speaker 2>watch Breaking Bad. Yeah he has a man crush. Maybe

1071
00:49:57.840 --> 00:49:59.239
<v Speaker 2>I just have a man crush on Glen Poe. He

1072
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:01.280
<v Speaker 2>has a man crushing described you is that way on

1073
00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:04.280
<v Speaker 2>my show there he's got a man crush on Daniel Craig.

1074
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:07.199
<v Speaker 2>So like the Bond movies, anything, Dan Munich, anything he

1075
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:10.239
<v Speaker 2>does like he's he's seeing it And I just think

1076
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:12.800
<v Speaker 2>like maybe Glenn Powell is the guy I wish I

1077
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:17.280
<v Speaker 2>could be. Rugged good, looks really in shape, gets women

1078
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:19.960
<v Speaker 2>like it because I just I feel like when he's

1079
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:23.440
<v Speaker 2>on screen, like the Rick James Dave Chappelle, think there's

1080
00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:26.199
<v Speaker 2>an aura about him, like there's just and and that's

1081
00:50:26.199 --> 00:50:29.320
<v Speaker 2>why I was kind of disappointed in this because he

1082
00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:32.880
<v Speaker 2>he was kind of a broken character that I didn't

1083
00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:33.400
<v Speaker 2>like seeing.

1084
00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:36.280
<v Speaker 1>I like him in Top Gun Mavericks.

1085
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:40.199
<v Speaker 2>Right, like that's that's like the cocky or cock sure

1086
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:43.559
<v Speaker 2>right that that that's another he's the cock sure, like

1087
00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:47.840
<v Speaker 2>like really talented guy. And and that's a running Man.

1088
00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna says his luck in Running Man. He's

1089
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:51.800
<v Speaker 1>got the sick. He needs money.

1090
00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:55.000
<v Speaker 2>But you know what, in Running Man still looked amazing

1091
00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:58.760
<v Speaker 2>and and like he just he did not He is

1092
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:01.760
<v Speaker 2>not the type of character that would be He's not

1093
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:04.480
<v Speaker 2>the type of actor that would be a character that

1094
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:07.320
<v Speaker 2>would be this poor guy. And you know what, he

1095
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:10.239
<v Speaker 2>wasn't Ben because you watch him in that movie. Yeah,

1096
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:12.960
<v Speaker 2>he's right up, he's right, he's two steps ahead of

1097
00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:13.440
<v Speaker 2>the elites.

1098
00:51:13.480 --> 00:51:15.800
<v Speaker 1>He's saving the people in the oil rig flash fire.

1099
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:17.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, like this is this is a hero.

1100
00:51:18.079 --> 00:51:19.400
<v Speaker 2>This is not just some You.

1101
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Know what's funny is the manager of the theater that

1102
00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:23.719
<v Speaker 1>I go to to see the movies. He talks to

1103
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:25.480
<v Speaker 1>me every week and I go in there now and

1104
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:27.000
<v Speaker 1>we're taught. I tell him what I'm going to see.

1105
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:29.559
<v Speaker 1>He goes, it's strange. He goes, it doesn't feel like

1106
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:31.639
<v Speaker 1>he fits that movie, and it's funny that that's where

1107
00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:34.000
<v Speaker 1>we started. He goes, he's just too handsome to do

1108
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:36.840
<v Speaker 1>x Y. And I tell this guy, I don't know

1109
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:39.159
<v Speaker 1>him from Adam right, like, we only know because I'm

1110
00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:41.400
<v Speaker 1>there every week, And I say, you know what's funny

1111
00:51:41.480 --> 00:51:43.079
<v Speaker 1>is I saw him in Running Man a couple of

1112
00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:47.079
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, and I remember pulling my phone out during

1113
00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:48.960
<v Speaker 1>the show because I thought he was so handsome that

1114
00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I googled how old he was and I realized that

1115
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:52.880
<v Speaker 1>he was the same age as me, and I was like, oh,

1116
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:54.599
<v Speaker 1>so if I put some time in, I could still

1117
00:51:54.599 --> 00:51:57.159
<v Speaker 1>look at it. Like, okay, I'll take that as an

1118
00:51:57.199 --> 00:51:58.519
<v Speaker 1>absolute w Yeah.

1119
00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Plus I heard Glenn paula a lot of Greek genes.

1120
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Really, no, I will say.

1121
00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:09.440
<v Speaker 2>I mentioned this before that it was reported, and I

1122
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:11.639
<v Speaker 2>think Tom Cruise has since denied this. But they're like

1123
00:52:11.719 --> 00:52:14.880
<v Speaker 2>reported by several outlets that he wanted Glenn Powell to

1124
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:16.400
<v Speaker 2>take over Mission Impossible.

1125
00:52:16.639 --> 00:52:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you've told me about that.

1126
00:52:18.079 --> 00:52:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you think about okay, so he's you know,

1127
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:24.119
<v Speaker 2>so obviously there's a comparison there between Powell and Cruise.

1128
00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:26.199
<v Speaker 2>Think of what what Cruise has done. You know, like

1129
00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:28.599
<v Speaker 2>over the course of his career, he's always been the

1130
00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:34.519
<v Speaker 2>good looking heuro type guy whatever. Minority Report, Magnolia, maybe

1131
00:52:34.519 --> 00:52:35.159
<v Speaker 2>not so much.

1132
00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Even as recently as Magnolia. He reminds me of Toe

1133
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:43.000
<v Speaker 1>for Grace's character in this totally yeah, uh Edge of Tomorrow,

1134
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:46.559
<v Speaker 1>even which isn't even that old. Yeah, he was as well.

1135
00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think about like the best one of my

1136
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:51.119
<v Speaker 2>favorite time Cruise roles, and it was like he was

1137
00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:54.199
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't in the movie a whole lot traffic Thunder

1138
00:52:54.800 --> 00:53:00.760
<v Speaker 2>as less gross. That was something I was great. Yeah, yeah, no,

1139
00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:03.400
<v Speaker 2>and but but maybe this is what Glenn Powell is

1140
00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:06.840
<v Speaker 2>going to be. Stick to the action stuff, right, Expendables

1141
00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:08.639
<v Speaker 2>three he was in he was great, and Expendables three,

1142
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:12.199
<v Speaker 2>Glenn Paul stick to the action stuff, stick to the

1143
00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:15.880
<v Speaker 2>hero stuff, and and you know, uh, every so often,

1144
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:17.639
<v Speaker 2>maybe you could stretch your wings and try to do

1145
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:21.159
<v Speaker 2>like a magnolia. Right, but not not yet, man, but

1146
00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:24.119
<v Speaker 2>not yet. It's just let's give it another half decade.

1147
00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:26.119
<v Speaker 1>See where you're at. Yeah, but you gotta be careful

1148
00:53:26.159 --> 00:53:28.840
<v Speaker 1>because eventually Marvel or DC is going to sink their

1149
00:53:28.840 --> 00:53:29.440
<v Speaker 1>claws in you.

1150
00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:31.320
<v Speaker 2>And then if you're worried maybe, I don't know, I

1151
00:53:31.480 --> 00:53:34.920
<v Speaker 2>like you never you never. Really, there's there's some leading

1152
00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:37.159
<v Speaker 2>men that that just they they don't want to they

1153
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:38.760
<v Speaker 2>don't want to do it, they'll never accept it.

1154
00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:41.280
<v Speaker 1>You want to hear the funniest example of one of

1155
00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:44.480
<v Speaker 1>them turning it down the Christopher Nolan Batman's Do you

1156
00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:46.679
<v Speaker 1>know this story already? Do you know who was supposed

1157
00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:50.360
<v Speaker 1>to be Batman before Christian Bale? Who was probably Ethan Hawk?

1158
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:51.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh? I did not know.

1159
00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:53.840
<v Speaker 1>He was asked to be Batman before Christian Bale, and

1160
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:55.679
<v Speaker 1>he said he was nervous he was going to get

1161
00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:58.000
<v Speaker 1>type cast. Thank god, he said, no, we're given all

1162
00:53:58.000 --> 00:53:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the fantastic movies he's done.

1163
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:01.920
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember who said this. It was an A

1164
00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:04.400
<v Speaker 2>list actor and he was asked about doing Marvel or

1165
00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:07.280
<v Speaker 2>superhero movies and he said he'd never do it because

1166
00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:09.559
<v Speaker 2>when you sign on. To do that, you have to

1167
00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:12.119
<v Speaker 2>sign a contract multi and and sort of like you

1168
00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:14.679
<v Speaker 2>think about what the Golden Angel Hollywood was. They were

1169
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:17.239
<v Speaker 2>the studios were locking in these actors like for ten

1170
00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:19.320
<v Speaker 2>movies at a time, five movies that it's like, Okay,

1171
00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:21.559
<v Speaker 2>you are under contract, you have to do this movie,

1172
00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:22.639
<v Speaker 2>you have to do this. Well, I don't want to

1173
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:23.840
<v Speaker 2>do this movie. You don't have a choice.

1174
00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:26.559
<v Speaker 1>Which if you're Sebastian Stan you're like, yeah, give me

1175
00:54:26.599 --> 00:54:29.480
<v Speaker 1>a nine movie contract. What the hell else am I doing? Exactly,

1176
00:54:29.519 --> 00:54:31.440
<v Speaker 1>But if you're a Leo, you're like, no, I'm not

1177
00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:32.760
<v Speaker 1>signing a three picture.

1178
00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Is another is another good example of like yeah, you

1179
00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:38.360
<v Speaker 2>don't care, but and that's what it's so crazy when

1180
00:54:38.400 --> 00:54:40.360
<v Speaker 2>you get like, you know, a guy like Michael Douglass

1181
00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:40.880
<v Speaker 2>on right.

1182
00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:43.320
<v Speaker 1>It's just like really right, But that's when you treat

1183
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:45.400
<v Speaker 1>yourself like Daryl Revis and you're like, I'm doing a

1184
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:46.480
<v Speaker 1>one one year deal.

1185
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:48.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but how many movies was he in?

1186
00:54:48.320 --> 00:54:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Though? At least two? Three?

1187
00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:52.400
<v Speaker 2>No, I'd five that I can count, because he was

1188
00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:55.920
<v Speaker 2>in all the ant Man. Yeah he was in uh,

1189
00:54:56.039 --> 00:54:58.360
<v Speaker 2>well maybe he wasn't in He's an end game. He

1190
00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:00.800
<v Speaker 2>was an endgame. Maybe he wasn't an infinite Yeah, so

1191
00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:04.280
<v Speaker 2>that so four, yeah that we know of. And was

1192
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:05.960
<v Speaker 2>he ever in a I don't think he was ever

1193
00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:08.239
<v Speaker 2>in a TV series at all.

1194
00:55:08.360 --> 00:55:11.320
<v Speaker 1>No, not that I'm aware. Yeah, but yeah, in any event,

1195
00:55:11.480 --> 00:55:14.039
<v Speaker 1>we'll see what happens with Powell's trajectory. I'm not too

1196
00:55:14.119 --> 00:55:15.440
<v Speaker 1>keen on this one though. I don't want to be

1197
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:17.039
<v Speaker 1>an ass, but I'm gonna be an ass. I'm gonna

1198
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:18.679
<v Speaker 1>say like four maybe four point five.

1199
00:55:18.920 --> 00:55:21.639
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I mean I can't go lower than five because

1200
00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Glenn Powell's and it's sure I'm gonna go five and

1201
00:55:23.880 --> 00:55:26.880
<v Speaker 2>a half on this one. Still a cool premise, uh,

1202
00:55:26.960 --> 00:55:32.159
<v Speaker 2>still cool execution. The story was was fun. The story

1203
00:55:32.599 --> 00:55:35.440
<v Speaker 2>seeing how it played out was interesting. I just feel

1204
00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:38.280
<v Speaker 2>like there was just I don't know, like it was.

1205
00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:41.920
<v Speaker 2>It was really difficult for me to see how Powell's

1206
00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:45.599
<v Speaker 2>character would get from point A to point p you know,

1207
00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:49.039
<v Speaker 2>from from point A to point Z, and just like

1208
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:52.000
<v Speaker 2>the decisions that I just I don't I don't know

1209
00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:56.960
<v Speaker 2>if a normal person even as one affected you know,

1210
00:55:57.199 --> 00:55:59.400
<v Speaker 2>I was, you know, childhood and the stuff that happened

1211
00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:01.679
<v Speaker 2>to him, the stuff that happened to his parents or whatever.

1212
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:04.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I would have been able to

1213
00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:06.559
<v Speaker 2>do that, especially when so much was going well for him.

1214
00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:08.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah for sure. And I'll be real, I have one

1215
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:11.159
<v Speaker 1>major gripe with this movie that I can't say because

1216
00:56:11.199 --> 00:56:11.960
<v Speaker 1>it happens at the end.

1217
00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:13.719
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna talk about that as soon as we signed off.

1218
00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, but I'm saying there, I have.

1219
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:18.239
<v Speaker 2>To tell you what I think it like is going

1220
00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:18.719
<v Speaker 2>to happen, and.

1221
00:56:18.719 --> 00:56:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I have an issue with it as well. Maybe they

1222
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:22.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of tie in, and I hope you notice the

1223
00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:23.760
<v Speaker 1>same thing I did, because it sucked.

1224
00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:28.079
<v Speaker 2>Probably not next week, No, yes, what's the game play? Okay?

1225
00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:31.320
<v Speaker 2>So so I brought up Scream seven week. Now. The

1226
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:33.159
<v Speaker 2>one that's coming out this week that I think is

1227
00:56:33.199 --> 00:56:38.599
<v Speaker 2>getting a lot of buzz is The Bride with Christian Bale.

1228
00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Maggie Jillenhall directed and wrote this one. That would be

1229
00:56:43.960 --> 00:56:45.599
<v Speaker 2>my suggestion. It's a little bit long, it's a little

1230
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:49.639
<v Speaker 2>over two hours, but it seems I mean, there's like

1231
00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:51.920
<v Speaker 2>a Bride of Frankenstein's story. There's got to be some

1232
00:56:51.920 --> 00:56:53.840
<v Speaker 2>sort of twist on it, you know, like, well.

1233
00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Have you seen the trailer? They even say you're the

1234
00:56:55.480 --> 00:56:58.639
<v Speaker 1>bride of Frankenstein. She goes, no, I'm just the bride exactly.

1235
00:56:58.679 --> 00:56:59.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure there's going to be.

1236
00:56:59.880 --> 00:57:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Just Bucky, by the way, just got nominated for an

1237
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:06.320
<v Speaker 2>Academy Award for Hamnet that that she was so like,

1238
00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:08.239
<v Speaker 2>there's buzz with her right now as well. That would

1239
00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:08.840
<v Speaker 2>be my suggestion.

1240
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:10.320
<v Speaker 1>I leave it up to you. Yeah, no, let's do

1241
00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:13.440
<v Speaker 1>that one. I've heard nothing but bad things about Scream seven,

1242
00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:15.920
<v Speaker 1>so I mean perfect, I'm not anti yet, but at

1243
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:17.320
<v Speaker 1>the same time, I can wait on it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's difficult for me to say, hey, let's watch

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<v Speaker 2>Scream seven instead of Christian Bale as.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I Can I go as long as this okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a couple of minutes. Can I just say

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<v Speaker 1>screams what Scream seven should have been. I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>it yet, but it doesn't matter. Are you familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>Wes Craven's new Nightmare.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard of it. I'm not familiar, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the seventh installment of Nightmare on Elm Street,

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<v Speaker 1>with the sixth one being called Freddy's Dead Like they

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<v Speaker 1>went out of their way to not only kill him,

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<v Speaker 1>but kill the demons that kept him coming back, and

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<v Speaker 1>and the series So when New Nightmare came out, it

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<v Speaker 1>brought back Heather Langencamp, who played Nancy in the first

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<v Speaker 1>and third one, but she wasn't playing Nancy. She was

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<v Speaker 1>playing Heather Langencamp. And Robert England is in it, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's not playing Freddy Krueger. He's playing Robert England. But

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<v Speaker 1>Freddy Krueger is in it, and he's played by Robert England,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is it is not Robert England. It's like, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>Freddy Krueger, Essentially Freddy Krueger comes out of the movies

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<v Speaker 1>and is it's hyper meta. They should have brought Nev

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<v Speaker 1>Campbell and Courtney Cox and and even the dead characters like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the.

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<v Speaker 2>Jam Kennedy, Yeah, oh, Dewey was David Arquette.

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<v Speaker 1>Arquette, Yeah, exactly, and bring all those characters back, but

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<v Speaker 1>have them play themselves and have a Scream person killing

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<v Speaker 1>them in real life in a hyper meta version of Scream.

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<v Speaker 1>That is clearly if you were going to bring Nev

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<v Speaker 1>Campbell back, what the movie should have been. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pissed off they didn't take it that way. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm not supposed to say. If you don't do

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<v Speaker 1>a movie the way I want to do it. I

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't say it sucks, but that was obviously how you

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<v Speaker 1>do scream seven everything else.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I will say this screen seven may not be

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<v Speaker 2>the end, sure, and you haven't seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it is right and they could take this idea

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<v Speaker 1>and run with it for eight or nine, yeah, or ten.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying thirty seven eighty two right, never know, but

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<v Speaker 1>the seven seven parallel because it was night mare Elms

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<v Speaker 1>ten seven.

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<v Speaker 2>And Wes Craven that's that's his baby.

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<v Speaker 1>It is it is now he's dead obviously, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can still do That's still the idea. The idea, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess what I'm saying is check out Wes Craven's new nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna do the bride next week. Thanks for listening, everybody,
