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Speaker 6: Do our What's Up? Welcome my beloved Jamie.
Speaker 3: What's Up.
Speaker 6: She's been a stranger to this channel. She got popular
Speaker 6: on her own and decided that she didn't need me anymore,
Speaker 6: and that I was holding her popularity bag.
Speaker 3: I was trying to get a big audience so you
Speaker 3: would have me on your show, because you only want
Speaker 3: people with bigger audiences.
Speaker 6: I only talk to other divas. I don't really talk
Speaker 6: to people that are like, you know, ankle biting, trying
Speaker 6: to be on a come up.
Speaker 3: He said, if you don't have twenty K, you're not
Speaker 3: coming on.
Speaker 6: No, I'm meant dollars. Oh yeah, it costs a lot
Speaker 6: to get on this channel. Jamie's back and we're going
Speaker 6: to talk about all of the recent deep research she
Speaker 6: has done on ancient mystery religions, ancient imperial cult religions,
Speaker 6: and we're going to be talking about all of that
Speaker 6: right away. But I want to remind you of an
Speaker 6: update on the book. So Ester Hollywood three, the printer
Speaker 6: said it will be a little bit longer than they
Speaker 6: initially thought. It's not up to me, it's not up
Speaker 6: to the publisher anymore. Now the printer says it will
Speaker 6: be around the fourteenth. So that's not my decision. I apologize.
Speaker 6: I lobby for as quick as possible, so but that's
Speaker 6: all we can do with the printer. So don't worry.
Speaker 6: I know it's just another couple more weeks. You're gonna
Speaker 6: get your book. I promise you. You don't have to
Speaker 6: email me, you don't have to complain. Esoter Hollywood three
Speaker 6: is available and you can sign up for these in
Speaker 6: the shop. You can just ask for shouse me, click
Speaker 6: the inside the US, and then you can order all
Speaker 6: of them. If you order part three, it won't ship
Speaker 6: until if you order one in two and three. They
Speaker 6: don't ship separately, so they're all gonna ship together anyway.
Speaker 6: So you can get those in the shop at Jason
Speaker 6: Elsis dot com. That is in the show description the shop.
Speaker 6: And also I still do have my collected essays, all
Speaker 6: seven hundred or so pages, almost seven hundred pages of
Speaker 6: the Red Book, which is all my geopolitical, theological, and
Speaker 6: philosophical essays over the last ten years or so. And
Speaker 6: then today we're going to be getting into a lot
Speaker 6: of ancient cult techniques and practices that you're going to
Speaker 6: notice are amazingly paralleled to today. The world is not
Speaker 6: as different as you thought it was from the ancient world. Oh,
Speaker 6: we're so advanced, yet we fall for all the same tricks,
Speaker 6: all the same demons, by the way, or behind the
Speaker 6: ancient religions as they are behind today's cults. And that's
Speaker 6: I think what really blew me away. As Jamie was
Speaker 6: telling me about all of her research, I have not
Speaker 6: read a whole lot on Assyria and Anana and the Sumerians.
Speaker 6: But Jamie has been doing her homework. She is writing
Speaker 6: a new book, and she wanted to read into the
Speaker 6: goddess mystery, religion topics what intensely, and she has. I'm
Speaker 6: proud of her.
Speaker 3: I took your advice and my own advice with that
Speaker 3: show we did with Ruckus and got off social media
Speaker 3: for a long time and just started reading books instead.
Speaker 6: And every time every time she takes a break from Twitter,
Speaker 6: she ends up reading like ten books. And I'm like,
Speaker 6: you should just constantly take a break from Twitter. Just
Speaker 6: never stopped taking breaks from Twitter.
Speaker 3: But look at these books, man, They're they're not that,
Speaker 3: they're not that fun, but they're really important.
Speaker 6: This one was a beast. I can't believe she Let's
Speaker 6: start with the Folio Society Classic here.
Speaker 3: This is such a cool book. But it's also a
Speaker 3: very informative, interesting book, because sometimes these can be kind
Speaker 3: of dry Hollywood, Yes, dusty, but it was very lively
Speaker 3: and it pretty much talks about all of the first cities.
Speaker 3: So like every city of sumer was a cult.
Speaker 6: To an ancient god, so each city had its own
Speaker 6: demonic cult, right, so.
Speaker 3: The Anunaki can you see that this Middle Earth right here, No,
Speaker 3: this is Mesopotamia. And so the very first cities were
Speaker 3: like ooh Er and Aridu, and these were two Inana
Speaker 3: and Aanki, and then you have Eric, and then you
Speaker 3: have Babylon obviously is one of them. Ninevah is one
Speaker 3: of them.
Speaker 6: So a lot of Bible towns.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so here he's just going through like Sumerian life.
Speaker 3: What is it like to be like one of the
Speaker 3: first people that have writing and all of this stuff.
Speaker 3: And it seems like a lot of the records that
Speaker 3: come out of antiquity were bookkeeping for the temple, so
Speaker 3: records of people paying tributes, tax is, sacrifices, slaves, all
Speaker 3: of that commerce is done right around the temple complex
Speaker 3: because the God is supposed to be there and all
Speaker 3: of these things grow out of.
Speaker 6: Occult basically, Yeah, well we know that. You know, if
Speaker 6: you think back to Nebucaneeser in the Book of Daniel,
Speaker 6: you know, Nebuicaneeser essentially had a giant idol kind of
Speaker 6: of himself built, and of course he tried to force
Speaker 6: everybody to worship the idol, and that's where we get
Speaker 6: you know, the stories in the Book of Daniel. But
Speaker 6: these historic empires are not all of them, but you know,
Speaker 6: they're mentioned in kind of a succession and the profit
Speaker 6: in the prophecies of Daniel, Zechariah, and Jeremiah. So we
Speaker 6: get a loose idea of these succeeding imperial powers and
Speaker 6: the even though the scriptures don't explicitly talk about this
Speaker 6: all the time, if you read the books of the Kings,
Speaker 6: for example, you'll find quite a bit of state and
Speaker 6: cult connections and how the state often as to use
Speaker 6: the cult. I wrote an essay years ago about how
Speaker 6: the Israelites when they fell into idolatry under Jeroboma and
Speaker 6: Ria Boham, they tried to utilize different worship sites because
Speaker 6: the legitimate temple was in the southern kingdom of Judah,
Speaker 6: and so the northern kingdoms wanted their own controlled ritual site,
Speaker 6: so they created Bethel and Dan, and those would become
Speaker 6: eventually connected to the Samaritans in the New Testament. So
Speaker 6: you get this kind of longtime connection between the state
Speaker 6: or the god king, the emperor and his ritual cult.
Speaker 6: So this also reminds me, and I want you to
Speaker 6: get into your notes. This also reminds me of the
Speaker 6: book by de Vornik that is overlooked an unknown. It's
Speaker 6: a very obscure book, which I've covered it many times
Speaker 6: of mentioning to me we have not a whole lecture
Speaker 6: through the book, but it's the history of intelligence agencies
Speaker 6: all the way back to the ancient empires, particularly Egypt,
Speaker 6: Mesopotamia as well, and then into Byzantium. So how did
Speaker 6: the intelligence agencies work in these ancient empires and in
Speaker 6: Byzantium is a fascinating book. And the key point there
Speaker 6: is that the priests were also the members of the
Speaker 6: king's or the emperor's spy network, So he had a
Speaker 6: ritual cult run by pre spies. They weren't the only
Speaker 6: spies there were also mailmen were the earliest spies. But
Speaker 6: the ritual cult was directly connected to the espionage and
Speaker 6: intelligence apparatus even in the ancient world. So things that
Speaker 6: we think of as maybe new discoveries to us these
Speaker 6: days when we figure out, oh, wait a minute, you know,
Speaker 6: there's cia connection to these different cults and this and that. No,
Speaker 6: this is actually the way that the ancient world functioned.
Speaker 3: M h.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Everything from today you can find a parallel in the
Speaker 3: very first cities definitely con men. Okay, so if we're
Speaker 3: talking about temple complexes and worship, I mean, long after
Speaker 3: some kind of weirdo Nephilum has left this place, you know,
Speaker 3: and gone back to the stars or died or whatever
Speaker 3: happened to them, the priest keep up this worship and
Speaker 3: the idol is set in the place. And then so
Speaker 3: the priests are actually the ones who are taking all
Speaker 3: of the tribute and all of the food and all
Speaker 3: of the offerings. And then after everybody leaves and the
Speaker 3: priest craft eats it, right, and so the god did
Speaker 3: it or whatever. And also you have a population that
Speaker 3: is extremely superstitious, so you have these groups that were
Speaker 3: no they're megastitious, and so you have people taking advantage
Speaker 3: of that, saying you can pay me for blessings or curses.
Speaker 3: And so these are like actual professions in the ancient
Speaker 3: world being paid for.
Speaker 6: The ancient writers exactly.
Speaker 3: What else taxes? I mean, all of this stuff comes
Speaker 3: from just the worship of the In the beginning, it
Speaker 3: was a ziggarette, right, and that was the center of town.
Speaker 3: And then you have your exorcists, you have witch doctors,
Speaker 3: you have all of the things that we have now
Speaker 3: you have clans fighting each other. So in that time,
Speaker 3: it was like Babylon and Assyria, and the capital would
Speaker 3: move from Babylon to different cities because whoever had won
Speaker 3: these wars or skirmishes or whoever God's favored, And so
Speaker 3: you have these different ideas of religion going from like
Speaker 3: goddess worship to more like god worships. So they go
Speaker 3: from Anana being the most important goddess, yeah, like Marduke
Speaker 3: in Babylon, after those kinds of myths had taken over,
Speaker 3: like Marduke and Tiamont, right. So, but the things that
Speaker 3: carry through are basically like can you say human trff?
Speaker 3: Just spell it, yeah, human trff, temple prostitution, worshiping of
Speaker 3: the goddess by sexuality. And so this is a book
Speaker 3: that we talk about in our live show where we
Speaker 3: talk about she is the gender bending goddess Anana right,
Speaker 3: and a lot of public sex rituals. So how they
Speaker 3: would legitimize kings in the ancient world was they would
Speaker 3: have a festival called a key to where the high
Speaker 3: priestess of Anana and the king would have a union
Speaker 3: where they represented the goddess and the god d muzi
Speaker 3: or tamus in the Bible, right, and then all of
Speaker 3: the people would follow and this would be like the
Speaker 3: fecundanty ritual. This is basically like in the old world,
Speaker 3: more was more. So the more babies, the more better.
Speaker 3: Not that we don't think that still, but it was
Speaker 3: the only thing that their mind was thinking of, was
Speaker 3: like producing lots of grain, producing lots of vegetables, producing
Speaker 3: lots of babies, because well, babies are part of the economy.
Speaker 3: Well that is so true. And yeah, the more tributes
Speaker 3: you can give if the more you're producing, and the
Speaker 3: more stronger you can make your local god or goddess.
Speaker 3: And uh was I gonna say about babies. Oh, so
Speaker 3: that leads into this. So you need more babies because
Speaker 3: you need to do more sacrifices to give and this
Speaker 3: is the pagan way. And so these books kind of
Speaker 3: outline like and they're not even from a Christian perspective,
Speaker 3: they're from a scholar perspective, but they outline how different
Speaker 3: christ and Christianity is from set apart from all of
Speaker 3: the different pagan gods, even though they might have similarities
Speaker 3: in these stories, God, uh, Christian God is the only
Speaker 3: one that is not plied by a bunch of like
Speaker 3: bribed by offerings and requiring all of these blood sacrifices
Speaker 3: and things like that. But the pagan gods do what
Speaker 3: do you think, am I talking to me? No?
Speaker 6: I mean you have to you talk to the audience.
Speaker 6: I have to keep monitoring all this insanity in the chat.
Speaker 3: Okay, don't be insane.
Speaker 6: Remember you're talking about.
Speaker 3: So yeah, God of Christianity doesn't really need anything, but
Speaker 3: these gods do. They need the blood, they need the offering,
Speaker 3: they need the temple. So this is coming out in
Speaker 3: several of these different books by different authors saying that
Speaker 3: this is uh you nique. Part of Christianity is that
Speaker 3: God gives to us and not the other way. Now.
Speaker 6: Yeah, one of the things that you find in the
Speaker 6: ancient pagan religions and their conception of their deities is
Speaker 6: that it's like a technology that you unlock, that you
Speaker 6: bribe or cajole into doing your will. So rather than
Speaker 6: us humbly submitting to the divine will and asking for
Speaker 6: God to grant it if it's in his divine providence,
Speaker 6: you're doing the rituals and doing the invocations and all this,
Speaker 6: you're paying the temple priests or whatever, so that you
Speaker 6: can get what you want, and that might require getting
Speaker 6: rid of your firstborn for you know, some sort of
Speaker 6: a successful harvest. And I was just reminded the fact
Speaker 6: that when I was reading through Zephaniah, I forgot zeph
Speaker 6: Andia even talks about Molec and Israelites said, sacrifice their
Speaker 6: youth to Molec. We're going to get into that in
Speaker 6: a minute, because yeah, eventually, the Israelites, who were given
Speaker 6: you know, rules and commands in the Book of Moses,
Speaker 6: levit because etcetera, not to get into these practices, not
Speaker 6: to fall into the Canaanite and you know, Babylonian and
Speaker 6: whatever practices. Many times over they actually do. And I
Speaker 6: forgot this. Zeph and I actually mentioned Molek by name,
Speaker 6: and that because they had forsaken God. And then even
Speaker 6: in Jeremiah, they've built high places in Tofeth, to the
Speaker 6: valley of Ben Hennam to burn their sons and daughters
Speaker 6: in the fire, which I did not command, nor did
Speaker 6: it ever enter into my mind in Jeremiah seven thirty one.
Speaker 6: So Israel oftentimes failed and fell into these practices. And
Speaker 6: so this tendency within the religion of primitive Judaism or
Speaker 6: proto Christianity. There were cults and groups within that that
Speaker 6: would fall into human sacrifice. And that's where people get
Speaker 6: the idea that, oh, all of the Old Testament was
Speaker 6: this evil God who taught human sacrifice, which is not true.
Speaker 6: Many times over, it's very clear that you do not
Speaker 6: do human sacrifice to the God of the Bible. That's
Speaker 6: one of the key things that sets him off against
Speaker 6: all the other deities. And so when we hear Pagans
Speaker 6: and neo Pagans trying to make this argument, it's just
Speaker 6: fundamentally not true according to the Old Testament.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, as long as you're talking about that,
Speaker 3: you might as well mention this book that I'm about
Speaker 3: three quarters done. Human Sacrifice and History. Nigel Davies and
Speaker 3: pretty much they all did it. They were all doing it.
Speaker 3: There is not one like NEOs.
Speaker 6: This is just normal academic text. By the way, these
Speaker 6: are conspiracy books.
Speaker 3: This is not a weird like Bible bookstore book. This
Speaker 3: is moral publishing. Like it's just archaeology basically. And so yeah,
Speaker 3: pretty much every culture is doing it, even the Israelites
Speaker 3: at some points when they are mixing with Canaanites. And
Speaker 3: this is where you get the idea that like balling
Speaker 3: Yahweh are the same because they're constantly warring against each
Speaker 3: other and enslaving each other and mixing tribes and mixing
Speaker 3: religions over you know, hundreds and thousands of years. But
Speaker 3: definitely the other tribes of the Israelites had that tofet
Speaker 3: and that's what the prophets were always railing against. And yeah, Jeremiah,
Speaker 3: So I mean, name a culture and I'll tell you
Speaker 3: if they are big.
Speaker 6: On Well, one that often comes up that is believed
Speaker 6: to be not involved in this but actually is was Egypt.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, for sure. Okay, So what they would do
Speaker 3: is when a pharaoh dies, he needs all of his
Speaker 3: servants and his wife and his like not his children usually,
Speaker 3: but like all of his attendants and his things to
Speaker 3: go into the next world. They believed that the next
Speaker 3: life is just kind of like here, but a little
Speaker 3: bit different, and so you're gonna need all of the
Speaker 3: things from this world that you want in. Yeah, And
Speaker 3: so yes, definitely human sacrifice in that way. If you're Pharaoh,
Speaker 3: your god king dies and you were real close to him,
Speaker 3: it was very typical that you would be sacrificed as well,
Speaker 3: and even your wife, like in India that's called sati
Speaker 3: so and that was super ancient and very ubiquitous in India,
Speaker 3: sacrificing widows, and it even became a thing like widows
Speaker 3: are unlucky or hags or witches or whatever, because they
Speaker 3: were trying to put peer pressure on widows to kill
Speaker 3: themselves so they wouldn't be a burden on society. But
Speaker 3: Egypt's yeah, I mean every tomb they open has other
Speaker 3: people in there with them, So that's kind of silly
Speaker 3: to say Egypt didn't do so.
Speaker 6: In their case, they weren't doing it to raw. They
Speaker 6: were doing it because they just thought you would need
Speaker 6: this person in the next life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but in a way, Pharaoh was raw on earth.
Speaker 6: So but what I'm saying is it wasn't a sacrifice
Speaker 6: to Playcate an angry deity. It was to make sure
Speaker 6: that Pharaoh had, you know, his his posse with him
Speaker 6: in the next life. What else, Well, you were talking
Speaker 6: about the Babylonians, what was their unique approach to this question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that you have all your big hitters like Molac, and.
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, there's there's still human sacrifice going on today.
Speaker 6: So people in the chat are talking about India and
Speaker 6: the Thuggies and all that. Oh, it still goes on,
Speaker 6: but Thuggies, let's not go to that yet. Let's finish
Speaker 6: with the Babylonians.
Speaker 3: Okay, So well where it was going with this is
Speaker 3: temple prostitution and uh, priestesses entering this involuntarily as children.
Speaker 6: Yeah, just try to use code words because it's just
Speaker 6: kind of triggered the algorithm.
Speaker 3: Okay, So nano becomes ishtar in Babylon, and this is
Speaker 3: where you get like the h O W H O
Speaker 3: r E of Babylon, right, and all the cults that
Speaker 3: worship these mother goddesses that kind of like venn diagram
Speaker 3: over each other in Isis is one of them. But
Speaker 3: one of the things that they all have in common
Speaker 3: is t R A N S and castration.
Speaker 6: Yeah, castraction, right, And just like self.
Speaker 3: Harm socialism, communism, lots like revelry, public displays of crazy
Speaker 3: harming yourself and beating and.
Speaker 6: Running around acting like the prophets of bail and confronts them.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So these are called the gali or the gala.
Speaker 6: And and it's just this is where we get the
Speaker 6: term Gala Gala. Yeah, okay, g A l A.
Speaker 3: Right, So now we're going into like.
Speaker 6: More of Callie protextas.
Speaker 3: Greece and Rome, because yeah, well.
Speaker 6: Remember when in Nan Jones drinks the juice and he
Speaker 6: goes Collie protextas we are her servants.
Speaker 3: Remember control, Uh, that's real and shok T's like magic powers,
Speaker 3: I think, so give us your magic powers. But yeah,
Speaker 3: this there's a whole quarter of a chapter and here
Speaker 3: about Collie. But do you want to hear about that?
Speaker 6: I want to before we do that, let's get to
Speaker 6: the really spicy stuff, which is that there were ancient
Speaker 6: groups of people that castrated themselves and became t r
Speaker 6: A and z as part of the ritual prostitution temple cult.
Speaker 3: Exactly, they're called Gali, They're called Gala. They were they
Speaker 3: migrated over in Greece and Rome and they became more recognized.
Speaker 6: Keep this I didn't want to mention though, when you
Speaker 6: look up the structure of a zigarot. Typically one of
Speaker 6: the first papers I ever wrote was about the Tower
Speaker 6: of Babel, and a lot of scholars believe that the
Speaker 6: Tower of Babbel was structured in a kind of a
Speaker 6: step model like this. Like a like an Aztec cake.
Speaker 6: And the reason for this that all of the temples
Speaker 6: in the world end up taking this kind of structure.
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, it's a basic, I guess geometric engineering structure.
Speaker 6: But some people think that these are all kind of
Speaker 6: little mirrors of the temple the Tower of Babbel. So
Speaker 6: the idea was we'll build a tower quote to ascend
Speaker 6: in the heaven. Really, I think that just means that
Speaker 6: they wanted to build a towering structure that symbolized human
Speaker 6: in defiance of God and the idea of the worship
Speaker 6: of Nimrod at kind of a type of Antichrist. So
Speaker 6: it's not that they literally thought they were going to
Speaker 6: like climb into heaven, but it's symbolically a war on
Speaker 6: heaven and the erection of man as God, and man
Speaker 6: as God obviously serves Satan and thus necessarily leads to
Speaker 6: this idea of human sacrifice at the top of the Ziggarot.
Speaker 6: So there might also be if you know the Book
Speaker 6: of Enich has some tradition within it, which it does
Speaker 6: to some degree, it might also be just what is
Speaker 6: what all the retards in the chat today did we
Speaker 6: just does this just lead to retards coming to the chat. Anyway,
Speaker 6: this is an important point. So you get a bunch
Speaker 6: of many Towers of Babel throughout the world, and to me,
Speaker 6: this is kind of indicative of the fact that the
Speaker 6: Bible is accurate, because why would we have the same
Speaker 6: patterns and structures of ritual worship and ritual human sacrifice
Speaker 6: almost throughout the entire world if it wasn't a testament
Speaker 6: to the way Romans one talks about the universality of idolatry.
Speaker 6: This speaks to the history of Genesis, speaks to the
Speaker 6: fall all kind of being real. Otherwise we wouldn't really
Speaker 6: why would we see all the same patterns and the
Speaker 6: same structures throughout all history. Also, yeah, Genesis six. There
Speaker 6: might be a sense in which this origin of human
Speaker 6: sacrifice has its roots in the story of the Nephelin,
Speaker 6: because in the the Book of Enach they are the
Speaker 6: first to begin to require human sacrifice.
Speaker 3: Well. Also, the tower of Babel, it didn't have to
Speaker 3: be tall. It could have been like a crossroads to
Speaker 3: get to another dimension, the spiritual world, where you can
Speaker 3: contact the beings from the other dimension, right yep, didn't
Speaker 3: have to be a physical thing.
Speaker 6: Where by the way, I'm not talking about our audience.
Speaker 6: So I'm talking about these weirdos that show up that
Speaker 6: I've never seen before and they just say stupid stuff.
Speaker 6: The people that I'm booty, I'm not talking about our audience.
Speaker 3: Oh so the Gala.
Speaker 6: By the way, my six looks like a looks like
Speaker 6: a Zigarott two. See mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Well, and that was the symbol of the EU too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the EU's EU used a tower Bible on their poster. Okay,
Speaker 6: By the way, you guys want to support the stream,
Speaker 6: you can do so through super chats, supertest run natively
Speaker 6: through YouTube, or you can do it through stream Labs.
Speaker 6: Stream labs link is putting the chat sauce in the
Speaker 6: show description, and of course stream labs doesn't take a cut.
Speaker 6: So if you do, I want to support the stream
Speaker 6: and I will be splitting the super chats with Jamie.
Speaker 6: You can use the super chat function on stream labs.
Speaker 6: Support the show. Ask your questions. We're getting into I mean,
Speaker 6: we got like a stack of like ten esoteric text. Now,
Speaker 6: before you get into that, I want to point out
Speaker 6: there is one thing that I've lectured on many times,
Speaker 6: and that is the idea that what if God is
Speaker 6: a bisexual. I'm not saying that, but her Meticism, Gnosticism,
Speaker 6: and the Kabbalah have all taught that Adam Cadman, or
Speaker 6: the original Man, the proto Man, or perhaps God himself
Speaker 6: is a bi sexual deity with both organs or both genitalia.
Speaker 6: That's a esoteric androgynist teaching. And that's also why Baphomet
Speaker 6: is the secret God for a lot of the Hermetic
Speaker 6: cults and Satanic religions. Is because the idea is, oh, really,
Speaker 6: if you're the highest God, you got to have both.
Speaker 6: You can't be either or because that's a neoplatonic assumption
Speaker 6: that metaphysically, you're only better when you have both male
Speaker 6: and female qualities. So the true God has to be
Speaker 6: fully male and fully female, and that ends up being
Speaker 6: the gnostic esoteric teaching of both ancient Platonists, hermeticis. Some
Speaker 6: of the Gnostics and elements of the Kabbala teach that
Speaker 6: God is bisexual. That would make sense then, why we
Speaker 6: have in these ancient temple cults the idea of castration
Speaker 6: and or t r a n z.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: In the Kabbala or the Gnostic Gospel, it's talking about
Speaker 3: making spirit and matter malcouth and Catherine male and female
Speaker 3: into one. And when you make the two into one,
Speaker 3: the great work is done, they say.
Speaker 6: In so I have the Cambridge companion to Western hermeticism
Speaker 6: and Western mysticism and his terrorism. I've lectured through this
Speaker 6: entire text for you guys on my channel. The chapter
Speaker 6: on Christian or on the Kabbala is interesting because from
Speaker 6: a scholarly perspective, they're admitting that the original deity is
Speaker 6: a bisexual entity from Plato in Egypt, and this is
Speaker 6: identified with Adam Cadmon. So in strict deep Kabbala God
Speaker 6: is bisexual, and that might have as an indication as
Speaker 6: to why some of the groups that we're talking about
Speaker 6: support the idea of t r A and Z.
Speaker 3: Well, have you heard of the Egyptian creation myth of
Speaker 3: atom where he yeah s t er yeah, the world
Speaker 3: into existence. So his hand is the female and he
Speaker 3: is the male.
Speaker 6: So it was so most of these pagan perspectives end
Speaker 6: up being some kind of weird sex cult.
Speaker 3: They all are, and that's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3: People are like, oh, Goddess worship would be so much
Speaker 3: better because it would be gentle and mother nature and No,
Speaker 3: it's temple pr st Ut. You know it's this stuff.
Speaker 3: So this whole scholarly paper is about the cults of
Speaker 3: the goddess and they are contrasting in Nana Ishtar and
Speaker 3: the Heedra of India and Collie again. So these are
Speaker 3: like crazy blood letting.
Speaker 6: So people are trying to this is so annoying. It's
Speaker 6: both bisexual and androgyny or having both organs from aphroditic
Speaker 6: and I'm gonna read it's the whole chapter is bisexuality.
Speaker 6: So is it all is audience? Just people who just
Speaker 6: want to like play gotcha? Today? In the Sepharat, the
Speaker 6: deckad is actually one and apparently separation, apparent separation that
Speaker 6: can demand harmony and give rise to polar bisexual structures
Speaker 6: within the cabalistic notion of the godhead itself. This is
Speaker 6: based on the bisexual nature of primordial man, that he
Speaker 6: had two sexes. All right. This bisexuality was from Plato,
Speaker 6: so you assume that I'm talking about the word can
Speaker 6: be used not just in the sense of having sex
Speaker 6: with two different people, but having both sexes. That's how
Speaker 6: it's used in this. Just go get the scholarly text
Speaker 6: and read it. Go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And another goddess is Kaybella. I think that's how
Speaker 3: you pronounce her name. I had to look it up.
Speaker 3: So Kybella, Raya, Magna Mater, and Nana Ishtar. All of
Speaker 3: these like sex mother goddesses. Her cults are like crazy truons.
Speaker 6: You can't say that. Oops, I told you not to
Speaker 6: say that on YouTube.
Speaker 3: Now what do we do?
Speaker 6: Okay, So it's just gonna mean that it'll be demonetized
Speaker 6: and it won't get promoted in the algorithm. So I
Speaker 6: don't care, but it's the algorithm is just going to
Speaker 6: not promote the show.
Speaker 3: Well, undataly, the most shocking practice by these people was
Speaker 3: the self c A s t r A, cutting your
Speaker 3: hot dog off and what else. So these people had
Speaker 3: political groups in ancient Rome and ancient Greece that were
Speaker 3: recognized by the Senate. So they're already infiltrating into like
Speaker 3: public forums and having golly rights and like they are
Speaker 3: recognized parts of societ.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so they became a kind of a welfare class too.
Speaker 6: This is something you pointed out that not many people
Speaker 6: knows that they're they're the goblin socialist Antifa of the
Speaker 6: ancient world because they were also part of the welfare class.
Speaker 3: Explain that, well, oh, because they would give like they
Speaker 3: would travel around from city to city, reading fortunes, doing
Speaker 3: tarot cards, doing dancing, giving concerts and a lot of them.
Speaker 3: If you didn't like give them enough money, they would
Speaker 3: lift up their robes to show you their scars. And
Speaker 3: that was like a curse to you that now you've
Speaker 3: seen that you.
Speaker 6: Can't make this up, so that Tier A and Z
Speaker 6: would curse you by showing you their area they're mutilated
Speaker 6: when you didn't give them money as part of the
Speaker 6: EBT cards that they were do. Yeah, that's not joke,
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 3: So anybody who says, like goddess worship would be so
Speaker 3: nice and it's just like pregnant when women sitting around
Speaker 3: being fanned, and it's not it's this stuff, and they
Speaker 3: were very much No, no, this is.
Speaker 6: A key point. So people think that the gaya worship
Speaker 6: and the ancient goddess worship was oh, it was like
Speaker 6: it was so peaceful when women were in charge, and no, no,
Speaker 6: it was this. Yeah, women in charge of the ritual
Speaker 6: goddess cult what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but a lot of times they weren't even in charge.
Speaker 2: Of it.
Speaker 3: It was still male priests. So like whoever's weaker is
Speaker 3: going to get trampled on in these types poos.
Speaker 6: Well, it's like Wilhelm Reich said, in order to have
Speaker 6: the end of the patriarchy, you have to promote free
Speaker 6: love and the goddess and no boundaries for pan sexuality,
Speaker 6: and then the patriarchy would fall. But of course he's
Speaker 6: a man saying this and trying to engineer and fund this.
Speaker 3: From the background, they enjoy acknowledged begging rights. Their primary
Speaker 3: religious function is to appear at weddings and childbirths to
Speaker 3: call down the blessings of the goddess.
Speaker 6: So I even put so they're welfare queens who are
Speaker 6: tier A and Z cult ritual Antifa, right, and.
Speaker 3: So let's talk about this goddess that they're worshiping in
Speaker 3: India was a big part of that paper. Is Collie, right,
Speaker 3: And Collie's.
Speaker 6: Callow me CALLI, COLLI CALLI, come and see I'm the
Speaker 6: best deity. I used to be.
Speaker 3: Collie's worshipers were called thugs or thuggies, and this is
Speaker 3: definitely where we get the word for gangsters.
Speaker 6: Ollie ma protextas we are her children.
Speaker 3: Her call is primarily men who murder other men. Huh
Speaker 3: for Collie and it is bad luck to murder women.
Speaker 6: Why would they do that? Why would they because she's she.
Speaker 3: Likes women, she's a protectorsslf.
Speaker 6: Oh, and she just wants to get rid of men.
Speaker 6: But she sends men to get rid of men, right.
Speaker 3: And what they would do is they robe around and
Speaker 3: they go to a town or a village and they
Speaker 3: send their best looking people into the town to kind
Speaker 3: of befriend other travelers that are passing through.
Speaker 7: Go with us, and so much be put to death.
Speaker 8: Sir, come back, come back, sir, come back, sir, buddy,
Speaker 8: Fuck your buddy, ready, fuck your buddy.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
Speaker 7: You have a good day today, have a good day. Yes, okay,
Speaker 7: I have a good day.
Speaker 3: That's how they do it. No, but okay, So they
Speaker 3: send their most attractive thuggy into town to riz up
Speaker 3: fellow travelers. And they're like, oh, it's really and that's.
Speaker 6: This big, big buff guy that beat up Indian. Remember
Speaker 6: he beat up Indy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they're like it's really dangerous. I've heard there's
Speaker 3: like muggers on the road and maybe if you travel
Speaker 3: with our group, you know, there's safety and numbers, and
Speaker 3: the people like, oh sweet, you know, okay, yeah, we'll
Speaker 3: travel with you. So they start traveling and they gain
Speaker 3: all their trust, and a couple days into it, while
Speaker 3: everybody's sitting around the fire, they give like a signal
Speaker 3: or a code word, and all the Thuggies immediately like
Speaker 3: turned to the person next to them and choke them
Speaker 3: at the same time, and usually like with a yellow
Speaker 3: rope with a coin on it and like choke them out.
Speaker 6: And then it makes me want to get a book
Speaker 6: on the Thuggies. Although this is false. They're not the
Speaker 6: world's first organized gang and professional assassins. That existed in
Speaker 6: the ancient world as you're talking about. It existed amongst
Speaker 6: the Hashashim, It existed amongst the Jews known as the Sikari,
Speaker 6: who were the they try to assassinate the Romans, the Zealots.
Speaker 6: So but I mean, maybe the Thuggies go back to
Speaker 6: the ancient world. Would they say they're like the ancient
Speaker 6: true Hindu believers?
Speaker 3: They're pretty old. Collie worshippers are pretty old. What was
Speaker 3: he gonna say about Gugese? Oh so you have to
Speaker 3: kill somebody to get.
Speaker 6: Initiated, So are you saying this. Spielberg got this one
Speaker 6: right pretty much.
Speaker 3: Well, they don't eat your heart or anything. They just
Speaker 3: choke you. They don't like and.
Speaker 6: Well it looks like they're just choking in these pictures.
Speaker 3: Maybe they cut up some people, but like the usual
Speaker 3: way is a young man finds an old man and
Speaker 3: chokes him to death, and that's how he's initiated into thuggies.
Speaker 6: Look at this, I got thuggy. You could get a
Speaker 6: thuggy hoodie right here. You want to get a thuggy beanie.
Speaker 3: But it doesn't.
Speaker 6: We get send this a tim and he becomes an assassin.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter to them in India. And one of
Speaker 3: these guys was making the really good point that Hindu
Speaker 3: worldview is just leads to total destruction of your society,
Speaker 3: as we have.
Speaker 6: Seen Brada, that is why we come to America because
Speaker 6: dangerous d.
Speaker 3: Right, so the maybe lose my trains thought when I'm laughing.
Speaker 6: Well now I'm thinking about, oh, that's why they have
Speaker 6: ship in.
Speaker 3: The street, because you when you die, you just come
Speaker 3: back and it's not even important.
Speaker 6: Life is not a life is devalued because you're coming
Speaker 6: right back.
Speaker 3: So that's why they're like oh, just jump on the
Speaker 3: funeral pyre with your husband because you have nothing left
Speaker 3: and you're just a mouth.
Speaker 6: To feed now and you and that's why they would
Speaker 6: tell him to hop on the wives.
Speaker 3: To die rct Suttie.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 3: Another crazy thing about not just India but lots of
Speaker 3: other places is foundation sacrifice. So every time they're building
Speaker 3: a building, right, they're gonna just like throw a couple
Speaker 3: of people into the foundation for good luck. Anytime they
Speaker 3: are planting a new crop or whatever, it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: grab a kid and like sprinkle his blood because you know,
Speaker 3: for the gods or whatever. So foundation sacrifice was huge
Speaker 3: in India. And there's even like superstitions like do not walk,
Speaker 3: you know, in construction sizes even to this day because
Speaker 3: like they just kick you in.
Speaker 6: So did they have priests like Molaram or not the
Speaker 6: Thudi Thesets, I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: Maybe there was like a leader of the gang, but
Speaker 3: they didn't have like a super structured ritual. It was
Speaker 3: more like like I described, ambushing campers.
Speaker 6: Because this like pretty soon the papers he's going to
Speaker 6: be Molarom, Right, we'll have a He's basically this is
Speaker 6: like a Vatican three will be it'll be presided over
Speaker 6: by Molaram and then we'll get a we'll get a
Speaker 6: Thuggy right liturgy for the nova sorto. So this the
Speaker 6: pat Rocaic is still defended. Oh it's bays and track
Speaker 6: because it's ancient Thuggie right, what's up?
Speaker 3: That would be more according to the text I read,
Speaker 3: would be like the as text that was huge in
Speaker 3: their sure part of the world. So what they would
Speaker 3: do is wait for specific astrological things to be happening
Speaker 3: that nobody else knew knew about mm hmm. And just
Speaker 3: like in mel Gibson's Apocalypto, like that was an integral
Speaker 3: part that a lot of people catch on is that
Speaker 3: the preest craft are record keeping of astrology and all
Speaker 3: of these other like signs that the general public is not,
Speaker 3: and they use that on their superstition and say, uh,
Speaker 3: they wait for the you know, eclipse, and they're like,
Speaker 3: we have to kill one hundred people to get rid
Speaker 3: of the eclipse, and people like, okay, kill.
Speaker 6: But you're right. So so Spielberg added the priest element,
Speaker 6: what did it say? What you said? Spielberg added the
Speaker 6: the molarom Molram is a great character though.
Speaker 3: But so molaram is it aztech high priest plus a
Speaker 3: Collie hug.
Speaker 7: With fun and did the Hebrew God with fun?
Speaker 6: Says that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But okay, so since we're talking about Aztecs for
Speaker 3: a second, a lot of people think that the Native
Speaker 3: Americans were super peaceful and the colonials were assholes and uh,
Speaker 3: you know, colonizers or whatever. It was more of a
Speaker 3: mixed bag. It was like there were cool tribes and
Speaker 3: there were crazy tribes. There were cannibal tribes, and they
Speaker 3: were like peaceful, uh, thriving tribes. And the big ones
Speaker 3: with the big religion, like let's say the Aztecs, they
Speaker 3: would go around kidnapping people from the smaller tribes and
Speaker 3: bringing them back to the capitol and sacrificing in them.
Speaker 3: And that's why when Cortes got there and the Knquistcors
Speaker 3: got there, a lot of tribes aligned with them because
Speaker 3: they're like, uh, these Aztecs are sacrificing everyone, can you
Speaker 3: please help us overthrow them? And the Conquistrators were like bet.
Speaker 6: And that's how we're not far. We're not actually far
Speaker 6: from the Mola Ram liturgy, because you guys, forget we
Speaker 6: did multiple everybody's already forgotten in the weekly scandals of
Speaker 6: the papacy. Everybody's already forgotten the Amazonian Right, which was
Speaker 6: incorporating all these indigenous indigenous pagan practices. And this is
Speaker 6: this is when we had Pacha Mama, and Pacha Mama
Speaker 6: is a human sacrifice deity. So when Francis honored Pacha
Speaker 6: Mama and they were rolling out this Amazonian Right ritual
Speaker 6: of the liturgy, I'm not I'm literally like not kidding
Speaker 6: when I say we are almost at the traditional Latin
Speaker 6: thug Ee right ritual, the traditional Hindi. It'll be ancient
Speaker 6: Hindi texts, so that'll make it more magical and powerful
Speaker 6: because it's ancient. Go ahead.
Speaker 3: That's a lot. A thing that a lot of people
Speaker 3: need to realize about Hinduism and Yoga and these Eastern
Speaker 3: religions is they do not value human life. They don't
Speaker 3: value women like you think they do. They are not
Speaker 3: like peaceful, feminine worshiping uh. Pacifists.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's all bullshit that modern social engineers and cult
Speaker 6: leaders craft in geo's think tanks, foundations. They all the
Speaker 6: new the United Nations, they all sell it as this
Speaker 6: peaceful indigenous you know, organic uh you know, not we're
Speaker 6: not consumerist in living up the land like indigen which
Speaker 6: is not really what any of this is. That's the thing.
Speaker 6: The reality is what you're saying.
Speaker 3: And even Buddha didn't have a very high opinion of women,
Speaker 3: So I don't understand why women would be attracted to that.
Speaker 6: Well, nobody knows what the religions actually teach. Everybody chooses
Speaker 6: the instagram, uh you know yoga Matt like version of it.
Speaker 6: I just got my Gaya Yoga Matt and it has
Speaker 6: the picture of the Buddha. It is spiritual. It's really spiritual.
Speaker 3: Just meditate it.
Speaker 6: So who cares what really was the you know, religious teaching.
Speaker 6: It's the same with like the histrionic Roman Catholic women
Speaker 6: saints that are cutting themselves, engaging in the same type
Speaker 6: of self harm. But you have to accept that as
Speaker 6: Romance Catholic Roman Catholic sanctity because it's it's in two
Speaker 6: papal documents. You have to accept Margaret Marla.
Speaker 3: Coque and only Christianity and Orthodoxy especially elevates women above this.
Speaker 6: Uh Dano has a good point. Buddha was just a
Speaker 6: dark triad player. He had the dark triad traits and
Speaker 6: he was just.
Speaker 3: No, didn't he leave Like the day his wife gave birth.
Speaker 3: He was like, I'm out. I don't understand any of this.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: All I ever think about is Keano as the Buddha.
Speaker 6: You've never seen it, but it's it's if you've seen
Speaker 6: Little Buddha, it's funny. Yeah, look at this. In fact,
Speaker 6: it would it would be worth watching. So here he
Speaker 6: is is that he's got his macing on his princess.
Speaker 6: But he decides that he's got too much, too many pleasures,
Speaker 6: and he he doesn't the his father Walt you know
Speaker 6: the story. His father walled him in to keep him
Speaker 6: from the taint of the world, and then he decided
Speaker 6: it was too easy, so he went to go experience
Speaker 6: the world anyway. But all I ever think about is
Speaker 6: kan play. He's he's doing brown face dude, and he's
Speaker 6: like the Buddha or whatever. But he's a perfectly cast
Speaker 6: like California guy as the Buddha.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 6: I remember he faced off against body Buddy Sadva in
Speaker 6: surf movie Johnny Utah versus Buddy.
Speaker 3: Who disappeared into the waves.
Speaker 6: I just went blank point break. So he's fighting body
Speaker 6: the Buddha in point break. Then he becomes the Buddha
Speaker 6: only a little bit later.
Speaker 3: Someone just said I should have sister anaesthesia.
Speaker 1: On my show.
Speaker 6: Well, you see all of this and you think, oh,
Speaker 6: look how mystical and spiritual, and uh, this is so
Speaker 6: like profound. And then when you look at the recent video,
Speaker 6: shout out to one of our editors who edited together.
Speaker 6: Did you see this?
Speaker 7: Look at it, Brad, what you're doing We've been sor.
Speaker 6: It's just it's just I'm sure it's just.
Speaker 7: No cooking by the river.
Speaker 6: Do not cook by river?
Speaker 1: Well fast, making a simple point.
Speaker 6: TV block you for this. Now I realized.
Speaker 7: The one that I can spirit very much. Spirituard. Look at.
Speaker 6: Look how skinny is You should want it. It's funny,
Speaker 6: it's it's well, you'll have to see it. We should
Speaker 6: do an analysis of it. It's pretty funny actually. But
Speaker 6: so he's he's got him a Desi chick, and then
Speaker 6: he just is like, no, I'm out of here, dude.
Speaker 6: So is this the deadbeat dad thing you're talking about?
Speaker 6: He because he leaves her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, Indian women dress is so beautiful.
Speaker 6: Spirit.
Speaker 3: I just wish they had a better worldview because is
Speaker 3: like probably the most beautiful in the world. I don't
Speaker 3: know one, it's top.
Speaker 7: It's okay.
Speaker 6: Jamie wants to be she wants to be a princess. Sorry,
Speaker 6: Keanu Temple here and in brown face, that is Jamie.
Speaker 7: Look at Jamie Brown you are You are like a
Speaker 7: petty of my arm. You are the beautiful.
Speaker 3: Somebody just said I should have Sister Anesthesia on the channel,
Speaker 3: and your wish already came true. I mean I didn't
Speaker 3: have her, but I reviewed her book on the YouTube
Speaker 3: member section on my channel and we talk all about
Speaker 3: this and a little bonus book that was a funny
Speaker 3: thing about a I mean, it was funny, but it
Speaker 3: was another lady who converted to Orthodoxy from a weird
Speaker 3: cult that where they spanked each other.
Speaker 7: WHOA.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're not talking about this girl.
Speaker 3: No, I don't know where the book went.
Speaker 6: Well, so people are asking, wait a minute, is that Keano. Yes,
Speaker 6: Keano played the Buddha in the nineteen ninety three movie
Speaker 6: Little Buddha. The movie is terrible, but it's so bad
Speaker 6: it's funny. It's actually worth watching because it's actually funny
Speaker 6: life and so Bridget Fonda is tasked with like finding
Speaker 6: the new Buddha, right, because it gets reincarnated and it
Speaker 6: turns out it's this little blonde kid looks like Macaulay
Speaker 6: culkin uh In like in Buena Vista. So she finds
Speaker 6: the new Buddha and then they send the Dalai Lama who,
Speaker 6: by the way, it seems like a creep right who
Speaker 6: kisses kids on the mouth. Remember that. And for those
Speaker 6: that don't know, like a lot of this buddhas shit,
Speaker 6: it's a bunch of same old cult mind control in kltry,
Speaker 6: human trafficking, tied end of the CIA. We talked about
Speaker 6: it for forever. So Tibetan Buddhism is pretty dark when
Speaker 6: you really study it. I'm not an expert on it,
Speaker 6: but it's pretty dark.
Speaker 3: Well, there is a left hand path of Tibetan Buddhism.
Speaker 6: So, hey, is that Chris Isaac.
Speaker 3: It looks like him.
Speaker 6: What is he doing in this movie? Anyway? Yeah, there is.
Speaker 6: The Buddhists have a the left hand path where you
Speaker 6: the Tibetan Buddhists, where you do all the evil that
Speaker 6: you can so that you've experienced evil, so that you
Speaker 6: know evil and good.
Speaker 3: Well, since we're talking about Buddhism, Okay, So she sister Anastasia,
Speaker 3: and again I go through this whole book on my channel.
Speaker 3: It's called You Are Mine.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: She was studying to be in lom Rim, which is
Speaker 3: like the super buddhast.
Speaker 6: Well, I've never heard of l A m R.
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 3: Lom Rim. That's how Buddhism.
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm guessing that's not Keanu Reeves Hollywood Buddhism.
Speaker 3: No long room is a path.
Speaker 6: This dude's taking it serious. This boomer's taking it serious.
Speaker 3: They are super serious. And I'm not surprised that she
Speaker 3: ended up being coming a nun because whatever is.
Speaker 4: Two Tibetan words meaning stages of the path. So stages
Speaker 4: of what paths?
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm sorry, I'm not trying to cut you off.
Speaker 6: I've just never heard of this.
Speaker 4: So this is a path designed by the Buddha. So
Speaker 4: it he's the path that he took, and he's a
Speaker 4: path that he's inviting us to follow. So it's not
Speaker 4: a path on the ground. A well, lom is to
Speaker 4: Tibetan words.
Speaker 6: This guy's got at least it almost looks orthodox.
Speaker 5: How are you? My name is Jason or my monk's
Speaker 5: names up today? I would like to.
Speaker 6: So they take names too, like Christians are with you
Speaker 6: just a little bit.
Speaker 3: It's a little morning.
Speaker 5: Really, what is philosophy? It's coming from one teacher recalling
Speaker 5: Buddha or s who came in India more than two thousand,
Speaker 5: five hundred years.
Speaker 6: Do you know about We've covered this many times so
Speaker 6: that the CI reached out to use them. It's called
Speaker 6: the CIA Tibetan program against China.
Speaker 3: Tiny mustache Man also used a elite Tibetan monk Army.
Speaker 6: As his personal The dolly Lamb at that time was
Speaker 6: pro Tiny mustache Man. H.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So she had quite an interesting life. She was
Speaker 3: in and out of rehab and then she like tried
Speaker 3: to become this super strict Buddhist until she met a
Speaker 3: father Theofan, and she was like this is the way,
Speaker 3: and she had to get out of all of her cults.
Speaker 3: So she was like doing plant medicine, ayahuasca, psychedelics, Buddhism,
Speaker 3: womb healing. Does she say what was like the main
Speaker 3: she was cult maxine, for sure, But.
Speaker 6: I'm saying what was like the breaking point where she
Speaker 6: went with Christianity.
Speaker 3: Meeting that priest and saying he was like angelic and
Speaker 3: beautiful and also some like dark things that with like
Speaker 3: visions of demonic stuff versus Christ like visions visiting monasteries,
Speaker 3: and some spiritual warfare.
Speaker 6: You can keep talking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean, if you want to any any
Speaker 3: you want to know about this book, that's already on
Speaker 3: my channel, so we can't what your wish already came true.
Speaker 3: Whoever requested that. So we were talking about antiquity and Mesopotamia, Sumer,
Speaker 3: all of these crazy kings that you hear about that
Speaker 3: like slaughtered people and zimriy Limb and Sargon and these warlords.
Speaker 3: So all of that part of history was you know,
Speaker 3: these competing cults basically warring against each other. And that's
Speaker 3: kind of the point we were trying to make on
Speaker 3: that show about Face Lords is like now it's cyber cults,
Speaker 3: and I was afraid something bad was going to happen.
Speaker 3: That happened because people are so crazed and cult like
Speaker 3: that it's becoming dangerous to say things in public now
Speaker 3: if you catch my drift of power.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just trying to find where the Nazis and
Speaker 6: the uh there's a book on this actually read years
Speaker 6: ago where the di Lama was it had nothing to
Speaker 6: do with being baze. It's just to do with geopolitical powers.
Speaker 6: So if you think it's base, there's nothing to do
Speaker 6: with that. I mean this, it's like it's like a
Speaker 6: they do all the same weird sex cult stuff even
Speaker 6: though you think it's this, I'm talking about what the elites.
Speaker 6: I'm not talking about the average mine washed Buddhist monk.
Speaker 3: And that's one of the things that she was saying
Speaker 3: about her gurus is She's like, they came on to
Speaker 3: me and I'm like, I knew it because they're always
Speaker 3: like Guru such. Yeah, but you need the Shiva lingams.
Speaker 6: In your own What does Frank say, Remember when they
Speaker 6: create a health cult and Frank says, time to get
Speaker 6: you in the healing bab Yeah, right, yeah, a new
Speaker 6: age tale.
Speaker 3: Yes exactly. It's just creepers, creeping. And even Gandhi he
Speaker 3: let his wife die because he was trying to reject
Speaker 3: Western medicine. But it was good enough for him.
Speaker 6: Well, he had all kinds of babes. He was all
Speaker 6: over the place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he would want young women to sleep in the
Speaker 3: bed with him.
Speaker 6: And anyway, people don't know Gandhi was actually a theosophist.
Speaker 6: Uh he went to Madam Blewetski's funeral, so a lot
Speaker 6: of people think that he was British Intelligence as well.
Speaker 6: Eternal Bugman became a member. Catherine Long became a member.
Speaker 6: ARCon Games became a member. Says Jay, you and Jamie,
Speaker 6: can you consider consider doing a stream where you review
Speaker 6: dating profiles? Actually, we are going to do this. We're
Speaker 6: going to do a advice for Guys and Girls dating
Speaker 6: podcast and that's actually a good idea to also review
Speaker 6: and make fun of dating profiles. That sounds good.
Speaker 3: We're going to do a love stream and then you
Speaker 3: can call in because I think I can heal in
Speaker 3: cults with my healing advice.
Speaker 6: I'm skeptical, but I'll listen. David Hampton became a member.
Speaker 6: What Sam became rember A Pannini. I wonder what name
Speaker 6: they'll give to the first fifteen minute cities in Gaza
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Speaker 6: Vuol True of five dollars, Dire Squad stand up. Thank
Speaker 6: you so much. V Scott five dollars. I love when
Speaker 6: you have Jamie on, and I love having love having
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Speaker 6: think the sanctuary at the top of the cigarettes is
Speaker 6: where the Nephelin were produced? Who knows? I mean I
Speaker 6: read a book of ench a long time ago, and
Speaker 6: I don't remember all the details because it's like the
Speaker 6: first part, the first several chapters, is the story of
Speaker 6: the watchers and the human sacrifice, the Nephelin and all
Speaker 6: that that they that they demand, and then it turns
Speaker 6: into these visions of mountains and it becomes very difficult
Speaker 6: to interpret. King og of Bashan's bed was found at
Speaker 6: the top of one. Yeah, it could be seven eleven,
Speaker 6: ten dollars. Thank you for your videos. God bless you.
Speaker 6: Thank you so much. Who is like God? Thirty five czars. Hey,
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Speaker 6: Appreciate that. Nico five dollars. Odin would a gun and
Speaker 6: beard oil Odin would a guns and beard oil kind
Speaker 6: of soymn Odin was guns.
Speaker 3: And bulls about peaceful Vikings for a second.
Speaker 6: Let's go into Vikings because we forget those and there
Speaker 6: is the rise of the neo pagan stuff Oden stuff
Speaker 6: everywhere now so and I've been talking about this for
Speaker 6: like six years.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, everyone was so super peaceful until Christian colonizers
Speaker 3: came along. Ever heard of the blood?
Speaker 6: Eagle blood? Is that what's on Odin's That is what they.
Speaker 3: Do to you and they cut you along everything out
Speaker 3: that was in a horror movie. So they asked they
Speaker 3: did definitely do human sacrifice to the gods battles. We
Speaker 3: was Vikings mega battle or mega sacrifice to the gods.
Speaker 6: We was Vikings.
Speaker 3: And weird Viking stuff is coming out with the Charlie
Speaker 3: Kirk like when they said we'll see you in Valhalla
Speaker 3: and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: That's just I don't people make a big deal about
Speaker 6: him using some word like it was code. I mean,
Speaker 6: he's just a person talking. It's not. And maybe as
Speaker 6: a Hindu is kash matela Hindu is a Catholic. I
Speaker 6: don't know what, but maybe he believed, maybe they believe
Speaker 6: Hindus believe that all the religions are the same. Yeah,
Speaker 6: so like a Hindu will come into a church and
Speaker 6: like honor and praise the priest because they just think
Speaker 6: it's another way to go to the deities.
Speaker 3: So another thing they would do is uh called ergi,
Speaker 3: which is if the Viking men thought that another man
Speaker 3: was acting too feminine, they would kill him.
Speaker 6: But but what that actually means isn't what you guys think,
Speaker 6: Oh those true? No, no, no, it's go ahead.
Speaker 3: Well, if you didn't want to, like say, raid a
Speaker 3: monastery or do a murder or pillaging or whatever, if
Speaker 3: you were starting to have a conscience, because the missionaries
Speaker 3: were coming to the Viking tribes and they actually did
Speaker 3: end up converting, but in that process, if you were
Speaker 3: becoming more Christianized, you were seen as feminine and you
Speaker 3: were liable to be put out of the tribe or
Speaker 3: just killed or banished.
Speaker 6: So what it means is not you know, honor duty
Speaker 6: defending your people. Now, if you won't go loot and
Speaker 6: pillage a Christian church, then you get what is it?
Speaker 6: And what does that mean? You get beat up?
Speaker 3: What? Yeah, so any kind of punishment they feel like,
Speaker 3: you know, so yeah.
Speaker 6: Peace was feminine and this is a berserker. This is
Speaker 6: you try to invoke the animal to take you over
Speaker 6: to fight, right the wolf Boys, the Wolf Pact member
Speaker 6: in Northman. Yeah, when he did this dance before raiding
Speaker 6: the village. So a lot of remember it was Byork
Speaker 6: that was the witch.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: One thing that all these cults have in common is drugs.
Speaker 3: So let's talk about Greece for a second, because these
Speaker 3: goddesses of the ancient world became gods also were syncretized
Speaker 3: into like the Pantheon of Zeus and then Roman religion. Right,
Speaker 3: so now you have so the.
Speaker 6: Vikings were all cat boys.
Speaker 3: No, they're the wolf who's that one weird guy, jacked.
Speaker 6: On clean guy who creates his own wolf pack?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So where is the Greek book?
Speaker 7: Okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so here Greece and Rome, you have your mystery
Speaker 3: schools and worshiping what's her name, Sarah and Persephone.
Speaker 6: So in the Norseman, right, York, I think she gets
Speaker 6: burned up because she's the witch of the first village.
Speaker 6: She's like the sorceress shaman of the village that they raid.
Speaker 6: And then when he gets caught and he's the prisoner
Speaker 6: of the other one. And then you remember Anya Taylor
Speaker 6: Joy is the sorceress and she's the witch in this part,
Speaker 6: and they organize a psyop where they give the whole
Speaker 6: village mushrooms.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so she's using mushroom witchcraft, right, So what I'm
Speaker 6: asking is, according to Cotel, he says that the Nordic
Speaker 6: tribes did utilize mushrooms. Yes, did you read.
Speaker 3: About any of that, not specifically that that's in like
Speaker 3: that Terrence McKennon book.
Speaker 6: I don't trust him, but.
Speaker 3: Oh, made by Jimbaw. People just came, that's nice.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna need a a scar. This is what Cotel
Speaker 6: is always talking about. And this is where you get
Speaker 6: father mushroom.
Speaker 3: Yes, and some people put Santa Claus in that because
Speaker 3: the Reindeers eat the mushrooms and fly and all that.
Speaker 3: So in Greece, goddess worshipping became mystery schools, uh, the
Speaker 3: Elusinian mysteries in particular, they would use a drink, a
Speaker 3: drug drink called kaikion. As part.
Speaker 6: We cover this is the Elusinian mysteries, the kai Kion,
Speaker 6: which is believed to be a hallucinogenic thing.
Speaker 3: So yes, sex drugs and drum beats. So basically rock
Speaker 3: and roll is how you make a cult. That and superstition.
Speaker 3: Remember when we did that show like Top ten Cult,
Speaker 3: Top ten Ways you know you're in a cult or
Speaker 3: something like that. It was classic, but you should go
Speaker 3: back and watch that because what we're talking about is
Speaker 3: how easily you can be initiated into a cyber cult
Speaker 3: now and it's so dangerous, but the ways to get
Speaker 3: you interested in this are super psychological, easy tricks that
Speaker 3: people have been using since the beginning of time.
Speaker 6: I'm listening to you. I'm just trying to find the
Speaker 6: name of this Tomty. Tomty is this little guy that's
Speaker 6: like a little little uh no, Hyperborea baby, look at him.
Speaker 6: That's Tumpty and he's associated with mushrooms. That's father Mushroom,
Speaker 6: father toadstool. Yeah exactly, remember him. Yeah, that's Swedish. Grandma's
Speaker 6: are going to tell you this, h I don't like, Well,
Speaker 6: allow me to change your mind. Everybody loves this when
Speaker 6: we go when we go here, I don't like when
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Speaker 1: Baby talk you.
Speaker 2: Only some way stuff.
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Speaker 2: We know love you staring at Eve the know a
Speaker 2: t stock conco and go. So he's feeling crossly. Never
Speaker 2: to talk channel.
Speaker 3: Never in coaching too much.
Speaker 2: Start you only only sas know.
Speaker 7: We know you've been.
Speaker 3: Having seen all.
Speaker 6: Okay, of course, if you've never seen one of the
Speaker 6: best riff tracks, Father Frost is one of the best.
Speaker 6: It's a classic. And Father Frost has Tompty or Father
Speaker 6: Mushroom or whatever he's supposed.
Speaker 3: To be what he is. Now we know what you're in,
Speaker 3: uh tomy.
Speaker 6: But if you want to this is why we became
Speaker 6: Russian Orthodox is because of the oh what's the guy's name?
Speaker 6: He turns into a he turns into a bear anyway,
Speaker 6: go ahead? Oh no, oh, that's from the office. I'm
Speaker 6: going blank on his name Lemon Conon. Maybe it's Lemon Coyon.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, what are we talking about, Oh Greece. Do
Speaker 3: you remember in Midsommer the shaman was a slow boy,
Speaker 3: their village shaman.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was weird. It was weird.
Speaker 3: Let's s build a cult around a slow boy and
Speaker 3: his revelations.
Speaker 6: Oh, here's Father Mushroom. See I've already played this clip. Now,
Speaker 6: this is when he turns into a bear Russo Finish
Speaker 6: folk tales of the Nordic Russian lands where is.
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 6: It kind of has a Cinderella element to it. So
Speaker 6: basically this goofy nineteen sixties movie that RIFP tracks made
Speaker 6: fun of. It's a combination of like five or six
Speaker 6: different old folk tales Russo Finish folk tales. And eventually
Speaker 6: they get to like father Frost, who is basically Santa
Speaker 6: Claus or here, but he has a name in Russian.
Speaker 6: I forget the name of him. What's the name for
Speaker 6: the Russian Santa Claus? The pagan Santa Claus? And every
Speaker 6: time I bring this outher like this is a Soviet thing.
Speaker 6: I know it's a Soviet thing, but it goes back
Speaker 6: older than the Soviets. But they wanted a like here.
Speaker 6: It is when he goes to here's father Frost killed
Speaker 6: a girlfriend.
Speaker 7: Greetings, Grandfather Frost, have you come fanastica?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 6: Shut up? I hate you already and I don't even
Speaker 6: know you. She's why do I even bother to look
Speaker 6: like Simon Lebon? He does look like Simon Laughan, and
Speaker 6: she's smiling that she's alive. See, Father Frost is basically
Speaker 6: pre dead, morose that's it. Dead Moro is who this is?
Speaker 3: I never heard of him?
Speaker 6: Yeah you have. I brought her up in the past.
Speaker 6: Oh weird slav He's a Slavic mythological character who's kind
Speaker 6: of sort of Santa Claus.
Speaker 3: So if you take Dead Morose and Coca Cola, you
Speaker 3: get Santa Okay, I.
Speaker 6: Mean, look look at in there.
Speaker 3: Whoa dude.
Speaker 6: But he's just like Father Frost and Father Frost. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 6: do you remember this mister side suitor? Yeah, classic earth
Speaker 6: pic drink. This is the witch what you're talking about?
Speaker 7: Frost?
Speaker 6: Anyway, where are we at? What's going on?
Speaker 3: Elucidian mysteries and ancient Greece and the Kai.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, Cootel talks about this a lot.
Speaker 3: So that's a huge cult and that's where we get
Speaker 3: our ideas of modern day theater, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean there probably isn't overlap. Like the
Speaker 6: first chapter in this Cambridge Companion about the ancient mysteries
Speaker 6: and the elisent and mysteries. It does talk about it
Speaker 6: like it's a ritual play, dramaturgy and all that.
Speaker 3: Well, even the word drama.
Speaker 1: Non.
Speaker 3: It was part of their.
Speaker 6: Ritual see kaik potion and it might be similar to LSD,
Speaker 6: which would give you a intense drug trip when you converted.
Speaker 3: And this was also like a fertility type earth worshiping goddess.
Speaker 3: It was about series and Persephone, and Persephone goes into
Speaker 3: the underworld. I've got the Yeah, so she is married
Speaker 3: to Katies in the winter time and in the springtime
Speaker 3: she's allowed to come back.
Speaker 6: And this is from as Cotail pointed out the Gordon
Speaker 6: Wasson study Abby Hoffmann and Gordon Watson says the road
Speaker 6: to eleusis unveiling the secrets of the mysteries. Gordon Watson,
Speaker 6: who was sent by Macy Foundation and the CIA as
Speaker 6: a banker to go and find the Anthia gens to
Speaker 6: produce LSD.
Speaker 1: And uh So.
Speaker 3: This is an interesting cult because they were interested in
Speaker 3: people with money. So as long as you had enough,
Speaker 3: you could for donations and worshiping and keep the cult going.
Speaker 3: So's it's like modern day calls like Rosicrucians. I noticed
Speaker 3: you have to donate a lot of money soccer.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you must donate much of your sheet come your
Speaker 9: income for the sheets to be creating life.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: This is this.
Speaker 6: It's the same with the TV preachers, the seeds of
Speaker 6: faith where you have to give money and then it
Speaker 6: comes back to you tenfold. That's your seed of That's
Speaker 6: not like Kenneth Copeland. They all say this stuff.
Speaker 3: Well you'll find this funny. On the day of the
Speaker 3: ritual or the festival, everybody has to bring piglets as
Speaker 3: a sacrifice.
Speaker 6: So they were like pay piggy's literal pay piggy, Yeah,
Speaker 6: literal pile. Yeah, I know. Wasson was a banker for
Speaker 6: JP Morgan. He was sent there by I think the
Speaker 6: Macy Foundation money and it was at the behest of
Speaker 6: Cia to create and to process LSD from the anteigens.
Speaker 3: So then you've got your other calls Dionysus, who else.
Speaker 3: Everybody had their own.
Speaker 6: Well, don't forget I mean Egypt too. Like we were
Speaker 6: watching Penny Dreadful, and you have the idea of the
Speaker 6: Ogdoad and the Uh. There's also one for nine and
Speaker 6: then there's one for ten, the ten cities of Egypt,
Speaker 6: and they all have different deities, and they all have
Speaker 6: different like the Enneagram comes from these nine deities of Egypt, right,
Speaker 6: So that's just another version of the same gods passing
Speaker 6: from culture to culture under different names.
Speaker 3: Well isis. They call her the Goddess of a thousand names,
Speaker 3: so there's basically just like one goddess goddess and then
Speaker 3: she has like all these different attributes and names like isis,
Speaker 3: segment isis whatever. What was I gonna say about Greece
Speaker 3: and culture?
Speaker 6: Didn't anything mention Zoroastrians being involved in the human.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not really.
Speaker 6: I mean the Mythras cult was an elite more of
Speaker 6: an elite cult where they would sacrifice the bull to
Speaker 6: baptize you with the bull blood. They were military cults
Speaker 6: and also nothing to do with Christianity. So people will
Speaker 6: find the most superficial connections and say, oh, look, Christianity
Speaker 6: is a myth recul because of baptism. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 6: totally different ideas of like baptism in a bull's blood
Speaker 6: versus water. It was totally different.
Speaker 3: Well, funny you mentioned that because several different cults all
Speaker 3: had the sacrificing of a bull as one of their
Speaker 3: central rituals and so much that they shared temples because
Speaker 3: they had a place to sacrifice a bull.
Speaker 6: Well, that was all throughout the Old Testament, just because
Speaker 6: a bull or a cow was like a really high
Speaker 6: priced sacrifice yeah, because you could live from that. Yeah,
Speaker 6: so it was a very you know, wealthy person's sacrifice.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Mythris Kaybella that their goddess and some other
Speaker 3: ones they you know, share temples because they had the
Speaker 3: proper bowl sacrificing apparatus there. But Mithris. It was so
Speaker 3: creepy that movie we watched called Conspiracy because at the
Speaker 3: end of it they take you through the modern day
Speaker 3: ritual of Mithrus and at the end they're like, Mithrus
Speaker 3: is my crown. But it was kind of like that.
Speaker 3: It was very anti female, anti woman. People who wanted
Speaker 3: to just be like career military or career like assassins
Speaker 3: or spies would be in the culture.
Speaker 6: Career assassins, career, you know, because they're the military.
Speaker 2: Guess.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, well, as you probably know, in front of
Speaker 6: Solomon's temple, of course, you have the altar of burnt offering.
Speaker 6: So if we can make this big and the reason
Speaker 6: I'm bringing this up is that, you know, we get
Speaker 6: a lot of atheists, pagans, people who don't really understand
Speaker 6: what the Old Testament religion was all about, which was
Speaker 6: proto Christianity and what Orthodox Christianity teaches in continuity with
Speaker 6: the Old Testament. So basically you have in Solomon's temple
Speaker 6: this outer portico here where you had these lavers of
Speaker 6: washings for ritual washings. For us, those were proto baptisms.
Speaker 6: They were foreshadowing of what we do in Christianity in
Speaker 6: terms of the entrance ritual of baptism. So before you
Speaker 6: could go to the temple and do your worship, you
Speaker 6: had to be clean. You had to be ritually clean,
Speaker 6: and that was symbolic of being morally clean. So ritual
Speaker 6: and ceremonial cleanliness, even in the Old Testament, were supposed
Speaker 6: to be about moral cleanliness. Hence, circumcise your hearts, as
Speaker 6: Jeremiah says. But you'll notice over here on the right
Speaker 6: is the altar of the burnt offering, where, for example,
Speaker 6: if you brought a bull to be sacrificed, this was
Speaker 6: again a big, hefty, wealthy tithe or donation. It wasn't
Speaker 6: just a thing where they killed the bull. You actually
Speaker 6: would eat the meal with the priest. And this was
Speaker 6: supposed to be a representative covenantal meal where you are
Speaker 6: partaking of the life giving flesh of the sacrifice. And
Speaker 6: that's why these things point to the work of Christ
Speaker 6: on the cross. Hence why the cross is intended to
Speaker 6: put an end to human sacrifice, because Christ was not
Speaker 6: a human sacrifice in the pagan sense. It wasn't bloodshed
Speaker 6: to placate an angry deity. It was a act of
Speaker 6: love to take on our weakness and our death willingly.
Speaker 6: And that's why Jesus says to Pilot, you would have
Speaker 6: no power over me were it not given to you
Speaker 6: by Heaven. Of course, he is the power of Heaven
Speaker 6: who gave that power willingly because he willed to die.
Speaker 6: So take of that flesh. We are eating the burnt offering.
Speaker 6: We're eating the passover. We were eating the bull offered
Speaker 6: in this typological sense, in the real sense, not to
Speaker 6: an angry god, but to a deity, to put an
Speaker 6: end to death into human sacrifice in the world and
Speaker 6: to all of the pagan religions. But I wanted to
Speaker 6: say one of the reasons that in the Old Testament
Speaker 6: you had the style of worship was like a preparatory
Speaker 6: pedagogical teaching phase before the fulfillment of this religion in Christ.
Speaker 6: So we don't need the blood of goats and bulls anymore,
Speaker 6: because at that time for ancient and more primitive man.
Speaker 6: These were pedagogical. It was God condescending to human weakness
Speaker 6: to combat the stuff that Jamie's talking about with the
Speaker 6: religions of Sumeria and Babylon and all that. This is
Speaker 6: intended to combat that at that level in a pedagogical way,
Speaker 6: to gradually lead man out of human sacrifice or sacrificing
Speaker 6: animals to the gods, to preparing them for the final
Speaker 6: sacrifice of Christ dying on the cross. That's the whole
Speaker 6: purpose of all this. And it's all if you read
Speaker 6: the Book of Hebrews. Everything inside this temple here, all
Speaker 6: the icons, all the imagery, the arc of the Covenant,
Speaker 6: the showbread, the lamp stands, they're all pointing to the
Speaker 6: realities that come at the First Advent of Christ, in
Speaker 6: which are the Church. So this little temple here is
Speaker 6: a sign pointer, a type of logical indicator of the
Speaker 6: Orthodox Church.
Speaker 3: That's argue, well, interesting you put it that way, because
Speaker 3: in this book they talk about the mentality of a
Speaker 3: worshiper or somebody who is a votive of a God,
Speaker 3: like let's say Innana in Uruk. Right, the way they
Speaker 3: thought about it was a master slave relationship it wasn't
Speaker 3: a familial father or a you know, loving type relationship.
Speaker 3: It was like these people made us to slave for them,
Speaker 3: and that's what we do. Otherwise we are subject to
Speaker 3: punishments or curses or whatever kinds of things they want
Speaker 3: to come up with to get what they want. Because
Speaker 3: in their writings they say that these the on Andacy
Speaker 3: made the a gigy and the a gigy like revolted
Speaker 3: and made humans. And because nobody wanted to do this
Speaker 3: slave labor look for goal.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're never a direct create. We're never a direct
Speaker 6: creation of the creator God. There's always lesser deities that
Speaker 6: created and are like slave owners to man.
Speaker 3: Right, And so this is how they are coming out
Speaker 3: of the gate in the First Cities is we are
Speaker 3: the slaves to the God of our cult, much like
Speaker 3: Islam believes that they are all.
Speaker 6: So you'll notice here in this Old Testamate temple, if
Speaker 6: you take a look at this description of the inside
Speaker 6: of the Orthodox Church, you'll notice several parallels. You have
Speaker 6: the altar or the arc and so forth will they
Speaker 6: all And by the way, many of these symbols are
Speaker 6: multi layered, a multi level. So the narthex corresponds to
Speaker 6: the first layer, if you will, of the temple, where
Speaker 6: you had the entrance stuff, the holy water, that kind
Speaker 6: of stuff. And then the nave corresponds to the interior
Speaker 6: of the temple where you had the show bread, which
Speaker 6: is obviously a type of the Eucharist. And then you
Speaker 6: have the altar, which is also the arc, which is
Speaker 6: also the mercy sea, which is also where the priest
Speaker 6: consecrates the Eucharist. And then the doors open. So somebody said, well,
Speaker 6: the temple was Yeah, the veil is rent every time
Speaker 6: we open up the doors and give communion. That's the
Speaker 6: purpose of that. So the Protestant thinks that the veil
Speaker 6: is rent, meaning there's no more sacrifice, there's no more offering,
Speaker 6: there's no more any of that, even though that completely
Speaker 6: contradicts Hebrews thirteen, which says that we eat a eucharistia
Speaker 6: sacrifice bread that Jews the temple can't eat. So Paul
Speaker 6: calls it a temple. He calls it a sacrifice at
Speaker 6: an altar. He says, the Eucharist is at an altar.
Speaker 6: That altar is the altar that you see in the
Speaker 6: Orthodox Church. That's why all the early churches, the first, second,
Speaker 6: third century, when there's excavations, when there's catacomb research that's done.
Speaker 6: You can go visit the catacombs. I've been there. They
Speaker 6: have altars, not Protestant tables for crackers and grape juice altars.
Speaker 3: Anyway, go ahead, Well you just made me think Solomon's temple.
Speaker 3: So this is where things start to go wrong for
Speaker 3: Israel and the Hebrews. When Solomon builds his temple and
Speaker 3: he he has all of his different wives who are pagans,
Speaker 3: and they also.
Speaker 6: Will they have been bad way before Solomon, so you
Speaker 6: read the Book of Judges and they're really bad. So
Speaker 6: the same but they fall into the same cycles, right.
Speaker 3: Because this is what they're mixed up in all of
Speaker 3: these Uh you know here is I don't know if
Speaker 3: Jerusalem is on this map, but they're not very far
Speaker 3: away from each other. Like you think that Jerusalem is
Speaker 3: really far away from Babylon, it's not. So they're constantly
Speaker 3: becoming enslaved by these different cultures Babylon and Persia, Syria.
Speaker 6: Well, the that's what is listed in Leviticus and Deuteronomy
Speaker 6: as the covenant punishment sanctions. So God makes a covenant
Speaker 6: with the Israelites, and he says, if you disobey the
Speaker 6: law that comes it, that goes into force is the
Speaker 6: penal sanctions of the Covenant, meaning I will hand you
Speaker 6: over to your enemies, you will be trodden down by them,
Speaker 6: et cetera. Uh, if you worship their deities, the land
Speaker 6: will vomit you out.
Speaker 3: And that's why people talk about the Babylonian Talmud all
Speaker 3: the time, because here, you know, babylon is their two
Speaker 3: main goddess god and goddess was Marduke and Ishtar. And
Speaker 3: Ball was a huge one too and has a lot
Speaker 3: of evidence of human sacrifice to him as well.
Speaker 6: Oh absolutely, ye, I mean even in scripture, right, I
Speaker 6: think we could deduce that molec they all Ball pure,
Speaker 6: bail pure. I don't know that that mentioned that mentions nasty,
Speaker 6: degenerate sexual practices, but I'm trying to think of I
Speaker 6: know Moloch is mentioned in zeph Andya, but I'm trying
Speaker 6: to think of other, uh human sacrifice deities that are
Speaker 6: mentioned in the Bible. But here anyway, So for those
Speaker 6: that are curious, if you want to see further explication
Speaker 6: of the pattern of worship and liturgy from the Old Testament,
Speaker 6: temple and synagogue services, which became the pattern of worship
Speaker 6: for the Apostolic churches when they were set up, which
Speaker 6: is not contained in scripture. It's one of the key
Speaker 6: arguments that we argue against Protestantism is that the Bible
Speaker 6: doesn't give you a worship service. So how do you
Speaker 6: know how to worship God? It's obviously something very important
Speaker 6: because people die from it Leviticus eleven when they don't
Speaker 6: do it the right way. How did it well, it
Speaker 6: turns out it was left to us in tradition, and
Speaker 6: that's why when you go to the Orthodox Church you
Speaker 6: will have a set series of things that go on
Speaker 6: in worship.
Speaker 7: And guess what.
Speaker 6: God has always in history been liturgically worshiped. There's never
Speaker 6: a time when he's not worshiped by liturgy. In fact,
Speaker 6: it says Abraham built an altar and called upon the
Speaker 6: name of Yahweh. So even when you go back to Abraham,
Speaker 6: even when you go back to Noah, there's Noah sacrifices
Speaker 6: when he comes out of the art. There's always been liturgical,
Speaker 6: ritual worship of the God of the Bible, and yet
Speaker 6: Protestantism has drifted so far away that they don't even
Speaker 6: acknowledge any of this. They just think it's a di y.
Speaker 6: Good luck. Hopefully you come up with something that's reverent maybe,
Speaker 6: or it's smoke machines and pastors with you know, props
Speaker 6: on Instagram.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, and it's really sad that a lot of
Speaker 3: you know, evangelical churches can fall into the category of
Speaker 3: cults that we're talking about because you have like bad
Speaker 3: theology plus Internet degeneracy, and then you have like Christian
Speaker 3: spanking and stuff like that, like weird ideas going on
Speaker 3: about how to run a household. I can't find that book.
Speaker 6: Well, I don't have a problem with that. I think
Speaker 6: it's put you in your person. So Great Litany, right,
Speaker 6: you'll have the entrance besting Great Litany, which is all
Speaker 6: explained in this documentary the Gospel. You've never seen this.
Speaker 10: It's the sign of the cross. The augar with a
Speaker 10: clear voice proclaims.
Speaker 11: Bless the key of the Father, and of the song
Speaker 11: and of the all the spear. Now to the agils
Speaker 11: of agents.
Speaker 6: And if you don't know, the entire Orthodox liturgy is sung.
Speaker 6: And I would recommend, as you saw there the quote
Speaker 6: there's a great little book from many, many centuries ago
Speaker 6: by Saint Germanus of Constantinople and his commentary on the Liturgy.
Speaker 6: You should read that because you'll see, hey, wait a minute,
Speaker 6: we're doing the same stuff that was being done millennia ago.
Speaker 3: And the thing I like about Orthodoxy is they're normal.
Speaker 3: I mean, once you study all these calls, they spiral
Speaker 3: into insanity. And the patriarch of the call is just
Speaker 3: a butt toucher and all your women belong to him,
Speaker 3: and it's all about money or spying. Remember they found
Speaker 3: spy stuff in O Show's house, and they also found
Speaker 3: it in Ken Copeland's house, like set up to do
Speaker 3: stings and black.
Speaker 6: Male, black male, Yeah, getting dirt.
Speaker 3: So a lot of these cult leaders and gurus actually
Speaker 3: are intelligence agents.
Speaker 6: Yes, And this is the very obscure, rare look that
Speaker 6: somebody sent me a photocopy of is Father Francis the Vornet.
Speaker 6: You may know of him as one of the most
Speaker 6: famous Uniates. He's very useful to us as Orthodox because
Speaker 6: he was one of the key figures, it seems, helping
Speaker 6: to convince the Vatican to admit so many of our
Speaker 6: positions as Orthodox. So he indirectly played a very good
Speaker 6: role in helping Orthodox apologetics as a Uniate priest, especially
Speaker 6: if you read the Phocian Schism. But he also has
Speaker 6: this lesser known book which makes me suspect that he
Speaker 6: might have himself been a spy or and it's all
Speaker 6: just operative. You don't usually get priests writing about the
Speaker 6: history of intelligence agencies unless they have some presumably connected
Speaker 6: role like that. But this is an interesting text and
Speaker 6: it goes very well with a lot of what Jamie's
Speaker 6: talking about. It's super rare. You can almost hardly never
Speaker 6: find the book, although I did get a photocopy version
Speaker 6: of I can find a PDF somewhere. But anyway, so
Speaker 6: I just wanted to play a little bit more of
Speaker 6: this because I think one thing that you'll notice if
Speaker 6: you are not familiar with the pattern and the norms
Speaker 6: of Orthodox worship that I can say contrasts even with
Speaker 6: the Latin Mass, which I went through for many years,
Speaker 6: but especially for the majority of Protestantism, is how trinitarian
Speaker 6: the Orthodox services. The Orthodox service is basically permeated with triadic,
Speaker 6: trinitarian and triplicities all the time, and I think in
Speaker 6: Protestant worship it's almost always unless you're in a charismatic church,
Speaker 6: all they talk about the Holy Spirit and the charismatic gifts,
Speaker 6: or if you're in most Protestant churches, it's Jesus is
Speaker 6: Jesus to the neglect of the Father and the Spirit.
Speaker 6: And so there's this trinitarian ethos that is itself, I
Speaker 6: think one of the key indicators that tells you that
Speaker 6: this is the true church, because you get the Holy,
Speaker 6: Holy Holy which is triatic right, not.
Speaker 1: For real.
Speaker 10: Reasonable literally thanksgiving because they are the recollection of many benefactions.
Speaker 10: They show us the culmination of divine providence, and in
Speaker 10: every way they prepare us to give thanks to God.
Speaker 6: Let us just to has a good voice. Anyway, guys,
Speaker 6: if you would like to see and contrast, you know,
Speaker 6: Orthodox worship with all that, you can watch the documentary
Speaker 6: right there which explains step by step the liturgy. Also,
Speaker 6: one thing we didn't really talk about today, but you
Speaker 6: could talk about we hinted at it with the zigarots
Speaker 6: and what the Solomon's temple is. There's also a lot
Speaker 6: of interesting research by these kinds of ancient religion scholars.
Speaker 6: Who's the one that's the most famous Egyptologist budge E.
Speaker 6: Wallis Budge. I have E. Wallis Budge's book on ancient
Speaker 6: temples and their structure and their symbolism. So you can find,
Speaker 6: for example, parallels between say ancient Egyptian temples or ancient
Speaker 6: Babylonian temples, Persian temples, and you'll find some similarities in
Speaker 6: parallels with the Jewish temple. What you get, what you
Speaker 6: then get is these secular scholars or these zeitgeistpros who
Speaker 6: then say, oh, look, dude, like the Biblical religion is
Speaker 6: just like copied from like ancient Babylonian Egyptian temples, and
Speaker 6: it's it's very zeitgeists low tier stuff. Because first of all,
Speaker 6: if God, there's two different ways to interpret that one
Speaker 6: God might be utilizing in that Old Testament era imagery
Speaker 6: and symbols that were were well known to those cultures.
Speaker 6: So maybe if there's a angel that looks like a
Speaker 6: you know, griffin in another religion or something that wouldn't
Speaker 6: that's it doesn't follow from that that, oh, they're all
Speaker 6: the same religion. Brew It would follow from that that
Speaker 6: there's similar imagery that's being used. Right, So for example,
Speaker 6: the unk right in Egypt, the unk became the cross,
Speaker 6: Oh dude, it's like Crestiaated just uses that's it's a silly,
Speaker 6: stupid nonsck.
Speaker 3: Actually, interestingly enough, this book on human Sacrifice talks about
Speaker 3: that just because there are elements of Christ's story in different.
Speaker 6: Culture, it doesn't make zeitgeist true, right.
Speaker 3: And actually the way that he put it it might
Speaker 3: even lend more credence to the story less. Someone's saying
Speaker 3: that someone from our church, so we never go to church. Okay,
Speaker 3: we go to church when we're here in Florida. Number one,
Speaker 3: we travel all the time.
Speaker 6: He said that that's not even true.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: We were just at church number two.
Speaker 3: We split our time between tennessee.
Speaker 6: This is that orientals come and that they lie and
Speaker 6: they repeat this stuff. So wh said that, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Just if you go to Saint Nicholas and you're like, Jane,
Speaker 3: Jamie never go to church. It's like, we come when
Speaker 3: we are in Florida, and then when we're not, we
Speaker 3: can't obviously go to church.
Speaker 6: Did they say it in yeah, this did you misread it?
Speaker 3: No? It was up there. But I'm like, so if
Speaker 3: you're going to our church and.
Speaker 6: You're like, so no, he said, someone said, Jay doesn't attend.
Speaker 3: Upon liturgy, and then it said someone at Saint Nicholas said,
Speaker 3: they don't come. That's not true because we don't are
Speaker 3: not always here in the state, I know, so mind
Speaker 3: your own business.
Speaker 6: No, somebody at Nick's live So they're talking about Fuintes's
Speaker 6: live streams and the Orientals and the Roman Catholic tradcats
Speaker 6: that lie that we don't attend a church. That's like
Speaker 6: five year old rumors that they pass around.
Speaker 3: I go to choir practice, Okay, I go to church.
Speaker 6: This is just tradcats that come and say bullshit in
Speaker 6: the chat?
Speaker 3: Is father deacon hear?
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's right there, father deacon, and nyas have you
Speaker 6: ever been to our church? Do we go to a church?
Speaker 6: Go ahead?
Speaker 3: Do you want to where were we ancient Greece. H
Speaker 3: we're kind of going in a linear timeline now from
Speaker 3: ancient history to near ancient history with Greece and Rome
Speaker 3: still not a lot of respect for human life. If
Speaker 3: a Roman father didn't like the way his baby looked,
Speaker 3: he could just you know, set it outside the wall
Speaker 3: of the city. If it was a girl and he
Speaker 3: didn't want it or whatever, he had the total authority
Speaker 3: to say, we allow this child in our house or not.
Speaker 3: And that's kind of where orphanages came from, because the
Speaker 3: Christians at that time would go around the city picking
Speaker 3: up abandoned babies that the Roman fathers rejected. So you've
Speaker 3: got different cults of Rome. You've got the kybol worshippers,
Speaker 3: the galley we were talking about, the self mutilators. You've
Speaker 3: got your vestal virgins who were basically kidnapped noble, not kidnapped,
Speaker 3: but they were some in noble girls who had to
Speaker 3: go enter the temple at seven years old or ten
Speaker 3: years old and live there for thirty years and tend
Speaker 3: the sacred fire of Rome. You've got your cults of Saturn, Jupiter.
Speaker 3: All of these gods require blood at certain times.
Speaker 6: We're having a conference at my church, but I don't
Speaker 6: know attend church. By the way, our church has a channel,
Speaker 6: you idiots, so they could actually just go and watch
Speaker 6: our live streams and you can actually see me and
Speaker 6: Jamie in the audience. Oh look at that. Look at that?
Speaker 6: Who's that in the background? You see me? I always
Speaker 6: stand over there, by the way, who is that behind
Speaker 6: the woman in the blue dress? Oh me, this is
Speaker 6: two weeks ago.
Speaker 3: And then boom roasted. We always go to church.
Speaker 6: Let's see if it shows the choir, because you'll see Jamie.
Speaker 6: If you see the choir, I'm back through somewhere. This
Speaker 6: is by the way, you guys are signing good. Well Major,
Speaker 6: I'm proving that we don't go to church by showing
Speaker 6: our churches live streams. Where you see there's Constantine right there.
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, you can eventually see us kiss the cross
Speaker 6: by the way at the end of the service. All right,
Speaker 6: So here's one and then you can come over here.
Speaker 3: Now they're gonna start watching our church live stream and
Speaker 3: looking for us every time.
Speaker 6: I don't care. Good they can come to church.
Speaker 3: Read Let's see, these are good streams.
Speaker 6: Putting out high quality stuff.
Speaker 3: The camera is nice. Since we're talking about Saint nic
Speaker 3: we're having a conference there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, to the church that I never go to and
Speaker 6: I never attend. We're having a conference right here.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, so there's me at the conference of the church
Speaker 6: I don't attend and never go to. Somebody said, where
Speaker 6: was dire? Okay, you didn't see me here, and I'll
Speaker 6: show you where I'm at. This world has not God.
Speaker 6: Where was the first one? Two weeks ago? This right,
Speaker 6: it's the church. I think it was after constantly un
Speaker 6: I know this is kind of stupid, but it's like
Speaker 6: you have to do this. There's Jamie, look at that
Speaker 6: we don't go to church. There's Jamie at the church
Speaker 6: that we don't go to. I think I was last
Speaker 6: this day. That's why you don't see me on there. Oh,
Speaker 6: look at that. There's me. Look there's me at the
Speaker 6: church I don't go to can everybody see now roasted?
Speaker 6: But see, actually this is good because it's like this
Speaker 6: is all Roman Catholics have at this point is to
Speaker 6: just make up and lie about Like this was the
Speaker 6: lie that they were saying about me in twenty eighteen
Speaker 6: and twenty eighteen they were like, he doesn't go to church,
Speaker 6: he doesn't even attend to any church. So they're actually
Speaker 6: just repeating rumors from like seven years ago. It's like,
Speaker 6: I mean, we're doing a freaking conference right here at
Speaker 6: this church. How would this even happen if I just
Speaker 6: never even went? But I want to remind you guys
Speaker 6: that it won't let me link that, so I'm gonna
Speaker 6: have to put it in the show description. So the
Speaker 6: long link to our conference if you would like to attend.
Speaker 6: This is just two weeks ago. We were here at
Speaker 6: the feast day too, which that would be this one.
Speaker 6: Is this the feast day?
Speaker 3: We weren't Saturday morning. That it's old, but it's still
Speaker 3: in very good shape and serviceable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the bedroom set a full sized bed and viewers.
Speaker 6: And ena here's the feast day the other day three
Speaker 6: two viewers.
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Speaker 7: Look at that.
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Speaker 13: all the thanksgiving, pray slow to a good board and
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Speaker 6: You heard what you want to hear you guys singing construction?
Speaker 2: Uh and mother Elizabeth?
Speaker 7: Yeah, dog you and I to be gift?
Speaker 6: But did they cut it out? That's not a gift
Speaker 6: sign that cut you off. Look, there's Jamie. Can you
Speaker 6: see Jamie in the background of the church that she
Speaker 6: doesn't There's Jamie at the church that she doesn't go to.
Speaker 11: So angel.
Speaker 1: A joy.
Speaker 6: So there you go. So that's at finding me here.
Speaker 6: I think I was the last to kiss the cross
Speaker 6: that day. I was like the last of the line.
Speaker 6: There's a well, I won't sell all these people's names
Speaker 6: because anyway, if you wanna come visit and you can
Speaker 6: come visit church and see that I'm not there on
Speaker 6: Sunday and then we'll see I mean, Isaac six dollars
Speaker 6: j you can win this debate with Jamie. Keep your
Speaker 6: head up. She's a woman. Just kidding much love from
Speaker 6: South Carolina. I just beat you in a he lost.
Speaker 6: We're gonna have a nineteen fifties style discipline in this
Speaker 6: household tuxedo, we did the tuxedo two dollars, I got
Speaker 6: you DC, We're working ten dollars. This is for Jamie's
Speaker 6: a swear jar.
Speaker 2: Oh what did I say?
Speaker 6: You said the bad unallowed words on YouTube? JB Pelta
Speaker 6: five dollars. Even if T R O N S as
Speaker 6: opposed to tranz is a trigger word, I don't, I do,
Speaker 6: can't keep up. It was The reason I know that
Speaker 6: is because that's originally what got this channel demonetized. So
Speaker 6: when I got demonetized in twenty eighteen or nineteen, it
Speaker 6: was that word, uh and because they tell you what
Speaker 6: it is, right, and then it took, you know, five
Speaker 6: years to get remonetized, So we lost basically hundreds of
Speaker 6: thousands of dollars from the T word. That's why I
Speaker 6: get sensitive about it. Not that I inherently have a
Speaker 6: problem with the word. It's just that the algorithm has
Speaker 6: lightened up. But the way it works now is, yeah,
Speaker 6: you can say more stuff, it'll just demonetize and deboost
Speaker 6: it in the algorithm when you say the trigger words
Speaker 6: H Browsey five dollars, Nah, Jamie stop speaking regular English.
Speaker 6: We need you to speak in Hindu it.
Speaker 7: Speaking to Hindui.
Speaker 6: Mocoish, I'm there, you go, tuxedo mass two dollars. Thuggie
Speaker 6: sounds like an urban diaper brand. That's a good one.
Speaker 6: That was a singer. Not you're not user Telken. I'm
Speaker 6: a top level transablest lesbian Muslim debater. I have yet
Speaker 6: to concede that the Indian accent is top tier. Well,
Speaker 6: we have to perhaps concede to you. We have to
Speaker 6: concede to you since you are higher in the totem
Speaker 6: pole of oppression as a trans lesbian Muslim debater. A Panini. Wait,
Speaker 6: it's all about sex colds. It always has been. Exactly
Speaker 6: a Panini hand over the root chakra now, exactly, yes,
Speaker 6: you chakra. Now, that's another thing.
Speaker 3: About the Hindu and the Buddhists and the Orthodox. We
Speaker 3: don't really have that view of chakras and energy centers
Speaker 3: that can be like hijacked. Art is like the news
Speaker 3: and the mind body space.
Speaker 6: Bro, you just hacked into my root chakra. Could you
Speaker 6: get out of there? Get you get out of my
Speaker 6: root chakra?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we talk about that in.
Speaker 6: The book with Sister anstesia, Jamie, you should try to
Speaker 6: get sister in a station on your channel. Forty dollars
Speaker 6: from Alexander Kane would be come true almost It would
Speaker 6: be an interesting show. What do you mean the book
Speaker 6: We don't pray to Mary? We asked for Mary's intercession,
Speaker 6: You Protestant goobers up? Jackomatic two dollars hit the gritty, Yes,
Speaker 6: I don't know what I mean, tra tix ten dollars.
Speaker 6: Crazy how lovers of sexual liberation. Liberation use examples from
Speaker 6: antiquity of unnatural relations for their justifications, such as an
Speaker 6: appeal to ancient traditions. But this is actually evidence for
Speaker 6: Romans one eighteen to thirty two in the Universality of
Speaker 6: the Fall exactly. And by the way, Romans one is
Speaker 6: parallel to the chapters in the Book of Wisdom, So
Speaker 6: Paul is drawing from the passages in the Book of
Speaker 6: Wisdom that describe almost the exact same thing, which Protestants
Speaker 6: should keep that in mind. Jack wanders five dollars. Have
Speaker 6: you seen the debate with FDA and heyeshoots the mushroom
Speaker 6: gut Jesus is a mushroom guy. Yes, I was watching
Speaker 6: it live. It was funny. It was so low tier
Speaker 6: that it's almost like because the thing, as FD noted,
Speaker 6: FDA noted, when you debate with like Shroom dtm LSD
Speaker 6: psyclone bros. You can't keep them on one topic. They
Speaker 6: go everywhere because their mind is like all over the place.
Speaker 6: It's not coherent thinking, and so you can't really debate
Speaker 6: them because they won't stay on any topic. It goes everywhere.
Speaker 6: And that's exactly what happened. Rachel Wilson became a member
Speaker 6: What's Up. Here's Johnny became a member What's Up? Bird
Speaker 6: Created by Jesus. Remember that the Dire Family. Remember to
Speaker 6: keep the Dire Family in our prayers. NICKI thinky five dollars.
Speaker 6: Is there any connection between amaru the Incan serpentine and
Speaker 6: the etymology of the Americas? I've never heard that. I
Speaker 6: don't know where ameera America.
Speaker 3: Some people think that's the real reason we call it
Speaker 3: America and not America, Govis Fucci, So it could be.
Speaker 6: I haven't heard that. Silent wins the super Chats today
Speaker 6: with two hundred dollars, and I'm gonna be splitting these
Speaker 6: with Jamie, so you're helping Jamie out.
Speaker 3: He didn't say anything, he's just silent.
Speaker 6: Well, his name is his message. Thanks, thank you so much,
Speaker 6: biggest super chat apeniny. The stream needs a part two.
Speaker 6: There's always you can never do enough, you know, ancient
Speaker 6: religious and I wanted to do also ancient pagan temple
Speaker 6: symbology and contrasting that actually with the way Solomon's temple
Speaker 6: was set up and the theology at that time, because
Speaker 6: it's such a common atheist pagan zeitguide mushroom bro type
Speaker 6: of argument and neo pagan wotan odin type argument that
Speaker 6: oh bro, it's all the same. You always was a
Speaker 6: promoted version of bail bro And it's like canaanite wife deity.
Speaker 3: Remember that this is yeah, that's what I was talking about,
Speaker 3: how the gods got mushed together, and that's why they
Speaker 3: think you always had a wife named Astra.
Speaker 6: Right now. Most of the time, the reason people think
Speaker 6: this is the dumbest word concept fallacy, which is because alohem,
Speaker 6: which is a term like it's a generic term, like
Speaker 6: the word god or God's right. These are generic terms.
Speaker 6: They're flaccid designators that dumb dumbs think signify the same reference.
Speaker 6: So they think that if you said eloheim the divine
Speaker 6: beings or the divine being that necessitates the same in
Speaker 6: all the different religions.
Speaker 3: And ball means Lord, so that's another order.
Speaker 6: Take the word yes, take the yeah exactly. Or the
Speaker 6: word Allah, right, that's the Arabic word for God. Well,
Speaker 6: you might mean the Allah of the Quran, who's a
Speaker 6: different deity from the Allah of the Bible. It's just
Speaker 6: the word God. So people don't know how grammar works,
Speaker 6: and heretics are always caught up and confused by just
Speaker 6: freaking grammar. Jack wonders five dollars. Have you looked at
Speaker 6: the rise of Sra. Yes, we've covered s Ray quite
Speaker 6: a bit.
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, I'm going to do a book about that
Speaker 3: my members in two more episodes. I've got screwtape letters,
Speaker 3: and then I'm going to do a book that Melissa
Speaker 3: sent me from a secular therapist who kept on getting
Speaker 3: SRA patience so much so that he had to write
Speaker 3: a book about it because he didn't believe in it
Speaker 3: at first, and now he does.
Speaker 6: If you have the E. Wallace Budge book on I
Speaker 6: think man is temple or temples or something like. I
Speaker 6: cited this I think in one of my essays in
Speaker 6: esto turcoli with three you will you will notice there
Speaker 6: are interesting like, for example, I think some of the
Speaker 6: Egyptian temples, they had a conception of them being like
Speaker 6: a version above a man, like it's a miniature, it's
Speaker 6: a microcosm of the macrocosm. Right. So it's the same
Speaker 6: thing going on with Solomon's temple, where it does point
Speaker 6: to the body of Christ. Jesus says, destroy this temple,
Speaker 6: and in three days I will raise it up, speaking
Speaker 6: of his body, so his body is also a fulfillment
Speaker 6: of the actual temple. The Egyptians had a similar idea
Speaker 6: that the body was a microcosm of the macrocosm. But
Speaker 6: that's also a plato. So what happens is that people
Speaker 6: see these types of similarities and then they jump to
Speaker 6: the non sequitor conclusion that, oh, they're all the same.
Speaker 6: You see, well, just because there's similarities, it's a fallacy.
Speaker 6: It doesn't follow that they're all the same, because if
Speaker 6: that was the case, everything has some similar relation to
Speaker 6: some other thing, so all things would be the same,
Speaker 6: which would be ridiculous, right, But that's what that shows
Speaker 6: you that it's it's a It just depends, right, just
Speaker 6: because there's similarity, it does not entail or necessitate the
Speaker 6: same origin or the same religion or the same beliefs.
Speaker 6: I mean, you can find all kinds of things that
Speaker 6: are common, but that doesn't mean they're the same. It's
Speaker 6: just it's a really stupid, kind of low tier philosophical mistake.
Speaker 3: If you want to do a show on temples and architecture,
Speaker 3: we should get that book Temple of Man by Schwalow Delubt.
Speaker 6: No, that's the that's the one I'm thinking of. I
Speaker 6: wasn't thinking of Budge, It's it's Schwallow deluver It. So
Speaker 6: I have his Temple of ManBook. Oh okay, so I
Speaker 6: cited it in esoteric color with three That.
Speaker 3: Would be a good show to do. Look at that apophae,
Speaker 3: that's crazy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I have this book and it's kind of making
Speaker 6: this point of the microcosm microcosm. So, but we don't
Speaker 6: conclude from this that because Egyptians had this idea that
Speaker 6: every religion that has a microcosm macrocosm is the same.
Speaker 6: It's a silly, silly conclusion because played Ill taught the
Speaker 6: same thing, and the Timaeus the universe is a giant
Speaker 6: man Adam Cadman exactly.
Speaker 3: So were we Greek cults? What Greek and Roman? Greco
Speaker 3: Roman Roman, Well, that's just kind of where we left
Speaker 3: off on the timeline of ancient Mesopotamia. No, we're in
Speaker 3: like Greece and Rome Elisinian. You got Dionysus. That's where
Speaker 3: you get the Bacchus mysteries, total depravity and like hedonistic
Speaker 3: type underground cults because well, especially Dionysius like all of
Speaker 3: their stuff and Bacchus there was like have you ever
Speaker 3: heard the Bacca Conspiracy?
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Oh, anyways, that's too long to talk about, but yeah,
Speaker 3: they were up to step Oh you.
Speaker 6: Got a bunch of books. Come back for a part too.
Speaker 3: Okay, So this is where all your Western mysticism comes from,
Speaker 3: like a Greco Roman. And then you have a switched
Speaker 3: from you know, basically a pagan world to the conversion
Speaker 3: of Christianity with the Byzantine Empire. And then all of
Speaker 3: these cults have to go underground. Right I'm listening to.
Speaker 6: People are asked for your channel, I'm putting your channel
Speaker 6: in the chat.
Speaker 3: So all these cults have to go underground, and this
Speaker 3: is where you get freemasonry. Popping up. You've got the Knights, Templar,
Speaker 3: You've got all of these like esoteric springs feeding into
Speaker 3: these other groups, Illuminati, Jesuit Templars, Freemasons, all of that,
Speaker 3: and then that is going into the mega cult era
Speaker 3: that we have now, cyber cults and face lord cult
Speaker 3: leaders and the dangers now that the cults, well yeah
Speaker 3: you're one of them.
Speaker 6: I'm a face lord now.
Speaker 3: But if you just want to talk about one more
Speaker 3: before we have to go, I know we have an appointment.
Speaker 3: But Mormons, so that is a huge thing, a popular
Speaker 3: topic now. So I was going to get into little well,
Speaker 3: why don't we just mention it?
Speaker 6: Why don't we just save that for the next one,
Speaker 6: because I brought my Bruce Sarmaconkie Mormon Mormon Study Bible
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Speaker 6: the show description. We already have quite a few. It's
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Speaker 6: be our biggest conference yet in terms of our conferences.
Speaker 6: But I think there's more super chests over here. I
Speaker 6: didn't get to Sam five dollars. Jay, can you please
Speaker 6: debate with one nineteen ministries? I don't know what that is.
Speaker 6: It's the Hebrew roots cult. It's growing in the US.
Speaker 6: My wife isn't coming out, and as an inquirer, she's
Speaker 6: coming out of it thanks to you. I mean, maybe
Speaker 6: I can't debate or try to subduce every single cult
Speaker 6: out there, but I mean, as the cults grow, yeah,
Speaker 6: we try to. We try to hit them all. But
Speaker 6: I mean I've got a lot of videos and things
Speaker 6: that already kind of address guys. You gotta remember to
Speaker 6: a lot of the cults. I know there's variations, but
Speaker 6: a lot of them have the same things going on.
Speaker 6: So the same arguments against Islam pretty much are the
Speaker 6: same arguments against Mormonism in terms of the strongest arguments.
Speaker 6: Right For example, if you show that there's no new
Speaker 6: public divine revelation and that scripture talked about there being
Speaker 6: an end to public divine revelation like that, right away,
Speaker 6: it ends charismatics, Pentecostals, Seven Day Adventists, Mormons, Muslims, it's
Speaker 6: all the same thing, angry matic five dollars. We'd meet
Speaker 6: with al Qaeda and Taliban regularly. This is from yesterday.
Speaker 6: They are the local leaders and elders. The government would
Speaker 6: pay them to stop fighting. It was a waste of
Speaker 6: US money. I don't doubt that. As Brosey two dollars,
Speaker 6: I was asking what it's an extreme? It's right now
Speaker 6: a pannini. I wonder what name they'll give the we
Speaker 6: already to the excuse panos five dollars. It seems like
Speaker 6: demons due to their acting against God's plan or low
Speaker 6: gie for them, they are determined in that their slaves
Speaker 6: to their destructive state can help themselves, despite possessing the
Speaker 6: capacity to repent. I don't think demons have the capacity
Speaker 6: to repent because they were already They already made their
Speaker 6: decision in an instant, because they're not in time, or
Speaker 6: their existence in the no Edic realm is not in time.
Speaker 6: So they had a singular choice at the beginning before
Speaker 6: Adam and Eve were tempted, and that was their fault.
Speaker 6: Because we get the ability to repent because we exist
Speaker 6: in time. They don't well Truro five dollars. Dire Squad,
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Speaker 6: Appreciate that. D Bailey five dollars. Have you heard the
Speaker 6: theory that Jacob's ladder is a ziggarot? I know you
Speaker 6: mentioned the Tower of Babbel. Never heard that. I mean,
Speaker 6: in orthodox iconography, we don't ever see it other than
Speaker 6: a ladder, so I wouldn't I wouldn't think much of that.
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Speaker 6: Jamie refrained from saying anernocky because you will bring it
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Speaker 6: in a Max Studio M four? Yes, I did, H CJ.
Speaker 6: Five dollars. Did you see that Rouselin was calling out
Speaker 6: Flintest for a debate? No, I didn't see that. Of course,
Speaker 6: flintis declined to have another debate with me. How do
Speaker 6: you think that debate would go? I mean, it really
Speaker 6: depends on what they would debate, But I mean, Ruslin
Speaker 6: doesn't debate jell politics and Flints doesn't really debate theology
Speaker 6: or he just does politics stuff. So I don't even
Speaker 6: know what they would debate. Rouselin seems ill equipped. He's
Speaker 6: basically just being been making fun of Flint this. I
Speaker 6: haven't seen that. He doesn't know what he's getting into. Well,
Speaker 6: it just depends on what they debate.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 6: I don't know. I mean, I like riss On on
Speaker 6: a personal level, but you know, when we debated Sola Fide,
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't think he did very well on
Speaker 6: his podcast, Gray Scott, No, he did that. Anonymous five dollars.
Speaker 6: This sounds dumb. I believe God's grace pulled me away
Speaker 6: from a cult last year. Can you look into this cult?
Speaker 6: They refused to talk about history, and they revile the
Speaker 6: quote Catholic church. Okay, but what cult? What's You didn't
Speaker 6: tell me what cult? Anonymous said, put the name of
Speaker 6: the cult, because yeah, I'll be happy to look into it,
Speaker 6: But I don't know what. You didn't tell me what
Speaker 6: the name of it was.
Speaker 3: You know, whatever you new cult's gonna have in common
Speaker 3: now is space because so many old ones have that.
Speaker 6: It's called it's called exo theology.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're gonna see way more space clts, Heaven's Gate,
Speaker 3: called serious cults like uh Venus polaris you. That's going
Speaker 3: to be a new thing.
Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 6: so much. All right, Wait, Seattle rob ten dollars Jay,
Speaker 6: I'm learning so much from your videos. First time catching
Speaker 6: you live. Is there an Orthodox explanation of saints as
Speaker 6: creatures hearing the prayers of the world around, asking for
Speaker 6: them to intercede. It's called deification. It's called theosis, participating
Speaker 6: in the uncreated energies of God, which Peter says that
Speaker 6: we become partakers of the divine nature, aka the divine energies.
Speaker 10: Yep.
Speaker 3: So check out next week we're gonna have paranoid American
Speaker 3: on talking about Mormon stuff. Oh you are, Yeah, And
Speaker 3: the next time me and you do a stream on
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Speaker 6: Oh which wick and witchcraft?
Speaker 3: Okay, stuff about Wicka and witchcraft.
Speaker 6: All right, thank you guys. Everybody hit like share and
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Speaker 6: religions and cults and how amazingly parallel they are to today.