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Welcome my beloved Jamie. 40 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 3: What's Up. 41 00:10:07,519 --> 00:10:10,159 Speaker 6: She's been a stranger to this channel. She got popular 42 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,720 on her own and decided that she didn't need me anymore, 43 00:10:12,759 --> 00:10:16,440 and that I was holding her popularity bag. 44 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,039 Speaker 3: I was trying to get a big audience so you 45 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,960 would have me on your show, because you only want 46 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,159 people with bigger audiences. 47 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 6: I only talk to other divas. I don't really talk 48 00:10:27,519 --> 00:10:30,279 to people that are like, you know, ankle biting, trying 49 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:31,120 to be on a come up. 50 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,919 Speaker 3: He said, if you don't have twenty K, you're not 51 00:10:34,039 --> 00:10:34,440 coming on. 52 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 6: No, I'm meant dollars. Oh yeah, it costs a lot 53 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,600 to get on this channel. Jamie's back and we're going 54 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,919 to talk about all of the recent deep research she 55 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:53,799 has done on ancient mystery religions, ancient imperial cult religions, 56 00:10:55,159 --> 00:10:57,759 and we're going to be talking about all of that 57 00:10:58,039 --> 00:11:00,320 right away. But I want to remind you of an 58 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,639 update on the book. So Ester Hollywood three, the printer 59 00:11:03,919 --> 00:11:06,399 said it will be a little bit longer than they 60 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,960 initially thought. It's not up to me, it's not up 61 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,639 to the publisher anymore. Now the printer says it will 62 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:20,240 be around the fourteenth. So that's not my decision. I apologize. 63 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,759 I lobby for as quick as possible, so but that's 64 00:11:24,799 --> 00:11:26,799 all we can do with the printer. So don't worry. 65 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,000 I know it's just another couple more weeks. You're gonna 66 00:11:29,039 --> 00:11:31,320 get your book. I promise you. You don't have to 67 00:11:31,399 --> 00:11:34,360 email me, you don't have to complain. Esoter Hollywood three 68 00:11:34,519 --> 00:11:37,399 is available and you can sign up for these in 69 00:11:37,519 --> 00:11:42,320 the shop. You can just ask for shouse me, click 70 00:11:42,399 --> 00:11:45,279 the inside the US, and then you can order all 71 00:11:45,279 --> 00:11:47,840 of them. If you order part three, it won't ship 72 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,440 until if you order one in two and three. They 73 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,519 don't ship separately, so they're all gonna ship together anyway. 74 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,440 So you can get those in the shop at Jason 75 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,879 Elsis dot com. That is in the show description the shop. 76 00:12:01,039 --> 00:12:06,159 And also I still do have my collected essays, all 77 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,440 seven hundred or so pages, almost seven hundred pages of 78 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,000 the Red Book, which is all my geopolitical, theological, and 79 00:12:14,039 --> 00:12:18,360 philosophical essays over the last ten years or so. And 80 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,759 then today we're going to be getting into a lot 81 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,360 of ancient cult techniques and practices that you're going to 82 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,360 notice are amazingly paralleled to today. The world is not 83 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,639 as different as you thought it was from the ancient world. Oh, 84 00:12:32,759 --> 00:12:35,919 we're so advanced, yet we fall for all the same tricks, 85 00:12:36,399 --> 00:12:39,279 all the same demons, by the way, or behind the 86 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,039 ancient religions as they are behind today's cults. And that's 87 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,279 I think what really blew me away. As Jamie was 88 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,759 telling me about all of her research, I have not 89 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:52,759 read a whole lot on Assyria and Anana and the Sumerians. 90 00:12:53,279 --> 00:12:56,799 But Jamie has been doing her homework. She is writing 91 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,159 a new book, and she wanted to read into the 92 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:05,399 goddess mystery, religion topics what intensely, and she has. I'm 93 00:13:05,399 --> 00:13:05,840 proud of her. 94 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 3: I took your advice and my own advice with that 95 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,000 show we did with Ruckus and got off social media 96 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,639 for a long time and just started reading books instead. 97 00:13:16,399 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 6: And every time every time she takes a break from Twitter, 98 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,080 she ends up reading like ten books. And I'm like, 99 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,120 you should just constantly take a break from Twitter. Just 100 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:27,679 never stopped taking breaks from Twitter. 101 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,879 Speaker 3: But look at these books, man, They're they're not that, 102 00:13:31,919 --> 00:13:34,000 they're not that fun, but they're really important. 103 00:13:34,159 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 6: This one was a beast. I can't believe she Let's 104 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,600 start with the Folio Society Classic here. 105 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 3: This is such a cool book. But it's also a 106 00:13:41,759 --> 00:13:46,080 very informative, interesting book, because sometimes these can be kind 107 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:53,919 of dry Hollywood, Yes, dusty, but it was very lively 108 00:13:54,279 --> 00:13:59,559 and it pretty much talks about all of the first cities. 109 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:06,120 So like every city of sumer was a cult. 110 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 6: To an ancient god, so each city had its own 111 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:12,799 demonic cult, right, so. 112 00:14:12,919 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 3: The Anunaki can you see that this Middle Earth right here, No, 113 00:14:16,879 --> 00:14:20,559 this is Mesopotamia. And so the very first cities were 114 00:14:20,639 --> 00:14:25,039 like ooh Er and Aridu, and these were two Inana 115 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:30,039 and Aanki, and then you have Eric, and then you 116 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:35,759 have Babylon obviously is one of them. Ninevah is one 117 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:36,279 of them. 118 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 6: So a lot of Bible towns. 119 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, so here he's just going through like Sumerian life. 120 00:14:43,399 --> 00:14:44,960 What is it like to be like one of the 121 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,080 first people that have writing and all of this stuff. 122 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,960 And it seems like a lot of the records that 123 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:57,480 come out of antiquity were bookkeeping for the temple, so 124 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:04,000 records of people paying tributes, tax is, sacrifices, slaves, all 125 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:08,120 of that commerce is done right around the temple complex 126 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,639 because the God is supposed to be there and all 127 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,600 of these things grow out of. 128 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,399 Speaker 6: Occult basically, Yeah, well we know that. You know, if 129 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,759 you think back to Nebucaneeser in the Book of Daniel, 130 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,000 you know, Nebuicaneeser essentially had a giant idol kind of 131 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,399 of himself built, and of course he tried to force 132 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,639 everybody to worship the idol, and that's where we get 133 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,360 you know, the stories in the Book of Daniel. But 134 00:15:32,919 --> 00:15:37,320 these historic empires are not all of them, but you know, 135 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,480 they're mentioned in kind of a succession and the profit 136 00:15:39,879 --> 00:15:43,480 in the prophecies of Daniel, Zechariah, and Jeremiah. So we 137 00:15:43,559 --> 00:15:47,559 get a loose idea of these succeeding imperial powers and 138 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,559 the even though the scriptures don't explicitly talk about this 139 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,919 all the time, if you read the books of the Kings, 140 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,000 for example, you'll find quite a bit of state and 141 00:15:57,279 --> 00:16:00,559 cult connections and how the state often as to use 142 00:16:00,639 --> 00:16:05,120 the cult. I wrote an essay years ago about how 143 00:16:05,919 --> 00:16:09,039 the Israelites when they fell into idolatry under Jeroboma and 144 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:13,519 Ria Boham, they tried to utilize different worship sites because 145 00:16:14,279 --> 00:16:18,799 the legitimate temple was in the southern kingdom of Judah, 146 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:24,039 and so the northern kingdoms wanted their own controlled ritual site, 147 00:16:25,039 --> 00:16:28,399 so they created Bethel and Dan, and those would become 148 00:16:28,519 --> 00:16:31,440 eventually connected to the Samaritans in the New Testament. So 149 00:16:31,519 --> 00:16:37,759 you get this kind of longtime connection between the state 150 00:16:38,159 --> 00:16:43,200 or the god king, the emperor and his ritual cult. 151 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,360 So this also reminds me, and I want you to 152 00:16:46,399 --> 00:16:49,320 get into your notes. This also reminds me of the 153 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:56,799 book by de Vornik that is overlooked an unknown. It's 154 00:16:56,799 --> 00:16:59,360 a very obscure book, which I've covered it many times 155 00:16:59,399 --> 00:17:01,039 of mentioning to me we have not a whole lecture 156 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,559 through the book, but it's the history of intelligence agencies 157 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,160 all the way back to the ancient empires, particularly Egypt, 158 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,720 Mesopotamia as well, and then into Byzantium. So how did 159 00:17:09,759 --> 00:17:14,200 the intelligence agencies work in these ancient empires and in 160 00:17:14,279 --> 00:17:18,599 Byzantium is a fascinating book. And the key point there 161 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:23,119 is that the priests were also the members of the 162 00:17:23,279 --> 00:17:26,240 king's or the emperor's spy network, So he had a 163 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,400 ritual cult run by pre spies. They weren't the only 164 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,319 spies there were also mailmen were the earliest spies. But 165 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,920 the ritual cult was directly connected to the espionage and 166 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,000 intelligence apparatus even in the ancient world. So things that 167 00:17:42,079 --> 00:17:44,599 we think of as maybe new discoveries to us these 168 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,440 days when we figure out, oh, wait a minute, you know, 169 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,359 there's cia connection to these different cults and this and that. No, 170 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,839 this is actually the way that the ancient world functioned. 171 00:17:53,079 --> 00:17:53,319 Speaker 3: M h. 172 00:17:56,599 --> 00:17:56,759 Speaker 7: Yeah. 173 00:17:56,839 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 3: Everything from today you can find a parallel in the 174 00:18:01,839 --> 00:18:06,759 very first cities definitely con men. Okay, so if we're 175 00:18:06,799 --> 00:18:10,079 talking about temple complexes and worship, I mean, long after 176 00:18:10,279 --> 00:18:15,000 some kind of weirdo Nephilum has left this place, you know, 177 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,319 and gone back to the stars or died or whatever 178 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,200 happened to them, the priest keep up this worship and 179 00:18:21,599 --> 00:18:25,640 the idol is set in the place. And then so 180 00:18:25,839 --> 00:18:29,559 the priests are actually the ones who are taking all 181 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,720 of the tribute and all of the food and all 182 00:18:31,759 --> 00:18:34,359 of the offerings. And then after everybody leaves and the 183 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,799 priest craft eats it, right, and so the god did 184 00:18:36,839 --> 00:18:40,519 it or whatever. And also you have a population that 185 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:45,119 is extremely superstitious, so you have these groups that were 186 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:52,000 no they're megastitious, and so you have people taking advantage 187 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,880 of that, saying you can pay me for blessings or curses. 188 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,079 And so these are like actual professions in the ancient 189 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,559 world being paid for. 190 00:19:02,519 --> 00:19:06,039 Speaker 6: The ancient writers exactly. 191 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 3: What else taxes? I mean, all of this stuff comes 192 00:19:12,079 --> 00:19:15,359 from just the worship of the In the beginning, it 193 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,640 was a ziggarette, right, and that was the center of town. 194 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,640 And then you have your exorcists, you have witch doctors, 195 00:19:22,799 --> 00:19:24,960 you have all of the things that we have now 196 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:31,440 you have clans fighting each other. So in that time, 197 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:36,400 it was like Babylon and Assyria, and the capital would 198 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,599 move from Babylon to different cities because whoever had won 199 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,000 these wars or skirmishes or whoever God's favored, And so 200 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:50,440 you have these different ideas of religion going from like 201 00:19:50,559 --> 00:19:53,920 goddess worship to more like god worships. So they go 202 00:19:54,079 --> 00:20:01,160 from Anana being the most important goddess, yeah, like Marduke 203 00:20:01,519 --> 00:20:06,079 in Babylon, after those kinds of myths had taken over, 204 00:20:06,799 --> 00:20:11,440 like Marduke and Tiamont, right. So, but the things that 205 00:20:11,599 --> 00:20:17,559 carry through are basically like can you say human trff? 206 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:25,519 Just spell it, yeah, human trff, temple prostitution, worshiping of 207 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:30,039 the goddess by sexuality. And so this is a book 208 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,000 that we talk about in our live show where we 209 00:20:32,079 --> 00:20:36,279 talk about she is the gender bending goddess Anana right, 210 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,240 and a lot of public sex rituals. So how they 211 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,400 would legitimize kings in the ancient world was they would 212 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,599 have a festival called a key to where the high 213 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,720 priestess of Anana and the king would have a union 214 00:20:54,839 --> 00:20:58,359 where they represented the goddess and the god d muzi 215 00:20:59,319 --> 00:21:02,559 or tamus in the Bible, right, and then all of 216 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,160 the people would follow and this would be like the 217 00:21:05,319 --> 00:21:09,119 fecundanty ritual. This is basically like in the old world, 218 00:21:09,559 --> 00:21:12,799 more was more. So the more babies, the more better. 219 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:17,240 Not that we don't think that still, but it was 220 00:21:17,319 --> 00:21:22,440 the only thing that their mind was thinking of, was 221 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,920 like producing lots of grain, producing lots of vegetables, producing 222 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,400 lots of babies, because well, babies are part of the economy. 223 00:21:29,759 --> 00:21:35,200 Well that is so true. And yeah, the more tributes 224 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,000 you can give if the more you're producing, and the 225 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,559 more stronger you can make your local god or goddess. 226 00:21:43,319 --> 00:21:46,119 And uh was I gonna say about babies. Oh, so 227 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,400 that leads into this. So you need more babies because 228 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,720 you need to do more sacrifices to give and this 229 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,599 is the pagan way. And so these books kind of 230 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,839 outline like and they're not even from a Christian perspective, 231 00:21:57,839 --> 00:22:01,720 they're from a scholar perspective, but they outline how different 232 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,359 christ and Christianity is from set apart from all of 233 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,200 the different pagan gods, even though they might have similarities 234 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:13,400 in these stories, God, uh, Christian God is the only 235 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,839 one that is not plied by a bunch of like 236 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:21,799 bribed by offerings and requiring all of these blood sacrifices 237 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,440 and things like that. But the pagan gods do what 238 00:22:26,519 --> 00:22:28,000 do you think, am I talking to me? No? 239 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 6: I mean you have to you talk to the audience. 240 00:22:30,519 --> 00:22:34,039 I have to keep monitoring all this insanity in the chat. 241 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 3: Okay, don't be insane. 242 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,319 Speaker 6: Remember you're talking about. 243 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 3: So yeah, God of Christianity doesn't really need anything, but 244 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,279 these gods do. They need the blood, they need the offering, 245 00:22:51,319 --> 00:22:55,160 they need the temple. So this is coming out in 246 00:22:55,759 --> 00:22:58,480 several of these different books by different authors saying that 247 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,839 this is uh you nique. Part of Christianity is that 248 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,640 God gives to us and not the other way. Now. 249 00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, one of the things that you find in the 250 00:23:05,319 --> 00:23:09,079 ancient pagan religions and their conception of their deities is 251 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,279 that it's like a technology that you unlock, that you 252 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,559 bribe or cajole into doing your will. So rather than 253 00:23:16,839 --> 00:23:20,279 us humbly submitting to the divine will and asking for 254 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,839 God to grant it if it's in his divine providence, 255 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,720 you're doing the rituals and doing the invocations and all this, 256 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:31,039 you're paying the temple priests or whatever, so that you 257 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,200 can get what you want, and that might require getting 258 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,839 rid of your firstborn for you know, some sort of 259 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,559 a successful harvest. And I was just reminded the fact 260 00:23:42,599 --> 00:23:45,359 that when I was reading through Zephaniah, I forgot zeph 261 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,000 Andia even talks about Molec and Israelites said, sacrifice their 262 00:23:49,039 --> 00:23:50,519 youth to Molec. We're going to get into that in 263 00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:53,519 a minute, because yeah, eventually, the Israelites, who were given 264 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,519 you know, rules and commands in the Book of Moses, 265 00:23:56,599 --> 00:23:59,880 levit because etcetera, not to get into these practices, not 266 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,599 to fall into the Canaanite and you know, Babylonian and 267 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,000 whatever practices. Many times over they actually do. And I 268 00:24:09,079 --> 00:24:12,519 forgot this. Zeph and I actually mentioned Molek by name, 269 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:18,640 and that because they had forsaken God. And then even 270 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,359 in Jeremiah, they've built high places in Tofeth, to the 271 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,319 valley of Ben Hennam to burn their sons and daughters 272 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,480 in the fire, which I did not command, nor did 273 00:24:27,519 --> 00:24:30,359 it ever enter into my mind in Jeremiah seven thirty one. 274 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:35,000 So Israel oftentimes failed and fell into these practices. And 275 00:24:35,079 --> 00:24:41,480 so this tendency within the religion of primitive Judaism or 276 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,200 proto Christianity. There were cults and groups within that that 277 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,240 would fall into human sacrifice. And that's where people get 278 00:24:48,279 --> 00:24:51,240 the idea that, oh, all of the Old Testament was 279 00:24:51,279 --> 00:24:54,240 this evil God who taught human sacrifice, which is not true. 280 00:24:54,559 --> 00:24:58,240 Many times over, it's very clear that you do not 281 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,079 do human sacrifice to the God of the Bible. That's 282 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,319 one of the key things that sets him off against 283 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,279 all the other deities. And so when we hear Pagans 284 00:25:06,319 --> 00:25:08,799 and neo Pagans trying to make this argument, it's just 285 00:25:08,839 --> 00:25:11,880 fundamentally not true according to the Old Testament. 286 00:25:12,839 --> 00:25:14,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, as long as you're talking about that, 287 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,359 you might as well mention this book that I'm about 288 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:23,400 three quarters done. Human Sacrifice and History. Nigel Davies and 289 00:25:24,039 --> 00:25:27,440 pretty much they all did it. They were all doing it. 290 00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:30,000 There is not one like NEOs. 291 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 6: This is just normal academic text. By the way, these 292 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,400 are conspiracy books. 293 00:25:33,519 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 3: This is not a weird like Bible bookstore book. This 294 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:45,359 is moral publishing. Like it's just archaeology basically. And so yeah, 295 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,119 pretty much every culture is doing it, even the Israelites 296 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,839 at some points when they are mixing with Canaanites. And 297 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,920 this is where you get the idea that like balling 298 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:05,279 Yahweh are the same because they're constantly warring against each 299 00:26:05,279 --> 00:26:08,519 other and enslaving each other and mixing tribes and mixing 300 00:26:08,759 --> 00:26:13,559 religions over you know, hundreds and thousands of years. But 301 00:26:13,839 --> 00:26:18,480 definitely the other tribes of the Israelites had that tofet 302 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:24,759 and that's what the prophets were always railing against. And yeah, Jeremiah, 303 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,359 So I mean, name a culture and I'll tell you 304 00:26:28,519 --> 00:26:29,480 if they are big. 305 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,319 Speaker 6: On Well, one that often comes up that is believed 306 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,079 to be not involved in this but actually is was Egypt. 307 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:45,079 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, for sure. Okay, So what they would do 308 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,359 is when a pharaoh dies, he needs all of his 309 00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:52,440 servants and his wife and his like not his children usually, 310 00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:55,200 but like all of his attendants and his things to 311 00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:58,240 go into the next world. They believed that the next 312 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,359 life is just kind of like here, but a little 313 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,200 bit different, and so you're gonna need all of the 314 00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:09,319 things from this world that you want in. Yeah, And 315 00:27:09,519 --> 00:27:13,960 so yes, definitely human sacrifice in that way. If you're Pharaoh, 316 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,279 your god king dies and you were real close to him, 317 00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:20,160 it was very typical that you would be sacrificed as well, 318 00:27:20,759 --> 00:27:23,400 and even your wife, like in India that's called sati 319 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:29,119 so and that was super ancient and very ubiquitous in India, 320 00:27:29,759 --> 00:27:34,400 sacrificing widows, and it even became a thing like widows 321 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,400 are unlucky or hags or witches or whatever, because they 322 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,799 were trying to put peer pressure on widows to kill 323 00:27:42,839 --> 00:27:46,240 themselves so they wouldn't be a burden on society. But 324 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,440 Egypt's yeah, I mean every tomb they open has other 325 00:27:51,599 --> 00:27:53,960 people in there with them, So that's kind of silly 326 00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:55,319 to say Egypt didn't do so. 327 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 6: In their case, they weren't doing it to raw. They 328 00:27:57,759 --> 00:27:59,759 were doing it because they just thought you would need 329 00:27:59,799 --> 00:28:00,960 this person in the next life. 330 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, but in a way, Pharaoh was raw on earth. 331 00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 6: So but what I'm saying is it wasn't a sacrifice 332 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,279 to Playcate an angry deity. It was to make sure 333 00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:16,200 that Pharaoh had, you know, his his posse with him 334 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:21,920 in the next life. What else, Well, you were talking 335 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,440 about the Babylonians, what was their unique approach to this question. 336 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that you have all your big hitters like Molac, and. 337 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,039 Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, there's there's still human sacrifice going on today. 338 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,640 So people in the chat are talking about India and 339 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,319 the Thuggies and all that. Oh, it still goes on, 340 00:28:40,839 --> 00:28:44,119 but Thuggies, let's not go to that yet. Let's finish 341 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,119 with the Babylonians. 342 00:28:45,119 --> 00:28:47,519 Speaker 3: Okay, So well where it was going with this is 343 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:56,759 temple prostitution and uh, priestesses entering this involuntarily as children. 344 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,079 Speaker 6: Yeah, just try to use code words because it's just 345 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,240 kind of triggered the algorithm. 346 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 3: Okay, So nano becomes ishtar in Babylon, and this is 347 00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:10,119 where you get like the h O W H O 348 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:15,279 r E of Babylon, right, and all the cults that 349 00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:19,200 worship these mother goddesses that kind of like venn diagram 350 00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:21,440 over each other in Isis is one of them. But 351 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,359 one of the things that they all have in common 352 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:32,440 is t R A N S and castration. 353 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, castraction, right, And just like self. 354 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 3: Harm socialism, communism, lots like revelry, public displays of crazy 355 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,440 harming yourself and beating and. 356 00:29:51,559 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 6: Running around acting like the prophets of bail and confronts them. 357 00:29:55,359 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. So these are called the gali or the gala. 358 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 6: And and it's just this is where we get the 359 00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:04,759 term Gala Gala. Yeah, okay, g A l A. 360 00:30:05,079 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 3: Right, So now we're going into like. 361 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 6: More of Callie protextas. 362 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 3: Greece and Rome, because yeah, well. 363 00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:25,359 Speaker 6: Remember when in Nan Jones drinks the juice and he 364 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,359 goes Collie protextas we are her servants. 365 00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:38,359 Speaker 3: Remember control, Uh, that's real and shok T's like magic powers, 366 00:30:38,359 --> 00:30:41,000 I think, so give us your magic powers. But yeah, 367 00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:43,799 this there's a whole quarter of a chapter and here 368 00:30:43,799 --> 00:30:45,279 about Collie. But do you want to hear about that? 369 00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 6: I want to before we do that, let's get to 370 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,279 the really spicy stuff, which is that there were ancient 371 00:30:51,319 --> 00:30:54,400 groups of people that castrated themselves and became t r 372 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,039 A and z as part of the ritual prostitution temple cult. 373 00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:05,839 Speaker 3: Exactly, they're called Gali, They're called Gala. They were they 374 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:13,480 migrated over in Greece and Rome and they became more recognized. 375 00:31:13,759 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 6: Keep this I didn't want to mention though, when you 376 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,440 look up the structure of a zigarot. Typically one of 377 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,000 the first papers I ever wrote was about the Tower 378 00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:25,599 of Babel, and a lot of scholars believe that the 379 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,519 Tower of Babbel was structured in a kind of a 380 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,200 step model like this. Like a like an Aztec cake. 381 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,599 And the reason for this that all of the temples 382 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,480 in the world end up taking this kind of structure. 383 00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:41,359 I mean, yeah, it's a basic, I guess geometric engineering structure. 384 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,480 But some people think that these are all kind of 385 00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:47,599 little mirrors of the temple the Tower of Babbel. So 386 00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:52,079 the idea was we'll build a tower quote to ascend 387 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,720 in the heaven. Really, I think that just means that 388 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,920 they wanted to build a towering structure that symbolized human 389 00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:02,759 in defiance of God and the idea of the worship 390 00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:06,480 of Nimrod at kind of a type of Antichrist. So 391 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,319 it's not that they literally thought they were going to 392 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,319 like climb into heaven, but it's symbolically a war on 393 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,599 heaven and the erection of man as God, and man 394 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,319 as God obviously serves Satan and thus necessarily leads to 395 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,400 this idea of human sacrifice at the top of the Ziggarot. 396 00:32:23,839 --> 00:32:28,200 So there might also be if you know the Book 397 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,200 of Enich has some tradition within it, which it does 398 00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:36,799 to some degree, it might also be just what is 399 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,839 what all the retards in the chat today did we 400 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,519 just does this just lead to retards coming to the chat. Anyway, 401 00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:47,640 this is an important point. So you get a bunch 402 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,359 of many Towers of Babel throughout the world, and to me, 403 00:32:51,559 --> 00:32:53,720 this is kind of indicative of the fact that the 404 00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:57,759 Bible is accurate, because why would we have the same 405 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,599 patterns and structures of ritual worship and ritual human sacrifice 406 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,599 almost throughout the entire world if it wasn't a testament 407 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,799 to the way Romans one talks about the universality of idolatry. 408 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,319 This speaks to the history of Genesis, speaks to the 409 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,640 fall all kind of being real. Otherwise we wouldn't really 410 00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:17,680 why would we see all the same patterns and the 411 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:22,279 same structures throughout all history. Also, yeah, Genesis six. There 412 00:33:22,359 --> 00:33:26,039 might be a sense in which this origin of human 413 00:33:26,119 --> 00:33:30,039 sacrifice has its roots in the story of the Nephelin, 414 00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:32,920 because in the the Book of Enach they are the 415 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,039 first to begin to require human sacrifice. 416 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 3: Well. Also, the tower of Babel, it didn't have to 417 00:33:41,079 --> 00:33:44,319 be tall. It could have been like a crossroads to 418 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,240 get to another dimension, the spiritual world, where you can 419 00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:54,480 contact the beings from the other dimension, right yep, didn't 420 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,640 have to be a physical thing. 421 00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 6: Where by the way, I'm not talking about our audience. 422 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,240 So I'm talking about these weirdos that show up that 423 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,480 I've never seen before and they just say stupid stuff. 424 00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:06,599 The people that I'm booty, I'm not talking about our audience. 425 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 3: Oh so the Gala. 426 00:34:11,519 --> 00:34:14,519 Speaker 6: By the way, my six looks like a looks like 427 00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:21,119 a Zigarott two. See mm hmm. 428 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,159 Speaker 3: Well, and that was the symbol of the EU too. 429 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:42,079 Speaker 6: Yeah, the EU's EU used a tower Bible on their poster. Okay, 430 00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:44,400 By the way, you guys want to support the stream, 431 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,480 you can do so through super chats, supertest run natively 432 00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:49,199 through YouTube, or you can do it through stream Labs. 433 00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:51,079 Stream labs link is putting the chat sauce in the 434 00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:54,400 show description, and of course stream labs doesn't take a cut. 435 00:34:54,599 --> 00:34:56,559 So if you do, I want to support the stream 436 00:34:56,599 --> 00:34:59,159 and I will be splitting the super chats with Jamie. 437 00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:03,440 You can use the super chat function on stream labs. 438 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,199 Support the show. Ask your questions. We're getting into I mean, 439 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,639 we got like a stack of like ten esoteric text. Now, 440 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,199 before you get into that, I want to point out 441 00:35:12,199 --> 00:35:15,719 there is one thing that I've lectured on many times, 442 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,559 and that is the idea that what if God is 443 00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:22,480 a bisexual. I'm not saying that, but her Meticism, Gnosticism, 444 00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:27,480 and the Kabbalah have all taught that Adam Cadman, or 445 00:35:27,519 --> 00:35:31,440 the original Man, the proto Man, or perhaps God himself 446 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:38,920 is a bi sexual deity with both organs or both genitalia. 447 00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:44,639 That's a esoteric androgynist teaching. And that's also why Baphomet 448 00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:47,159 is the secret God for a lot of the Hermetic 449 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,679 cults and Satanic religions. Is because the idea is, oh, really, 450 00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:54,719 if you're the highest God, you got to have both. 451 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,800 You can't be either or because that's a neoplatonic assumption 452 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,599 that metaphysically, you're only better when you have both male 453 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,039 and female qualities. So the true God has to be 454 00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:08,440 fully male and fully female, and that ends up being 455 00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:16,760 the gnostic esoteric teaching of both ancient Platonists, hermeticis. Some 456 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,400 of the Gnostics and elements of the Kabbala teach that 457 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,480 God is bisexual. That would make sense then, why we 458 00:36:24,599 --> 00:36:29,719 have in these ancient temple cults the idea of castration 459 00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:31,960 and or t r a n z. 460 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:34,079 Speaker 7: Yeah. 461 00:36:35,159 --> 00:36:39,599 Speaker 3: In the Kabbala or the Gnostic Gospel, it's talking about 462 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,679 making spirit and matter malcouth and Catherine male and female 463 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:49,960 into one. And when you make the two into one, 464 00:36:50,039 --> 00:36:52,559 the great work is done, they say. 465 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 6: In so I have the Cambridge companion to Western hermeticism 466 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,719 and Western mysticism and his terrorism. I've lectured through this 467 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,960 entire text for you guys on my channel. The chapter 468 00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:08,920 on Christian or on the Kabbala is interesting because from 469 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:16,400 a scholarly perspective, they're admitting that the original deity is 470 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:22,480 a bisexual entity from Plato in Egypt, and this is 471 00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:28,320 identified with Adam Cadmon. So in strict deep Kabbala God 472 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,719 is bisexual, and that might have as an indication as 473 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,840 to why some of the groups that we're talking about 474 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,199 support the idea of t r A and Z. 475 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,079 Speaker 3: Well, have you heard of the Egyptian creation myth of 476 00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:48,760 atom where he yeah s t er yeah, the world 477 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,400 into existence. So his hand is the female and he 478 00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:52,039 is the male. 479 00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 6: So it was so most of these pagan perspectives end 480 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,920 up being some kind of weird sex cult. 481 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,559 Speaker 3: They all are, and that's what I'm trying to say. 482 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,039 People are like, oh, Goddess worship would be so much 483 00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:09,920 better because it would be gentle and mother nature and No, 484 00:38:10,159 --> 00:38:15,320 it's temple pr st Ut. You know it's this stuff. 485 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,760 So this whole scholarly paper is about the cults of 486 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,159 the goddess and they are contrasting in Nana Ishtar and 487 00:38:26,519 --> 00:38:31,800 the Heedra of India and Collie again. So these are 488 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,079 like crazy blood letting. 489 00:38:35,679 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 6: So people are trying to this is so annoying. It's 490 00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:47,400 both bisexual and androgyny or having both organs from aphroditic 491 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,360 and I'm gonna read it's the whole chapter is bisexuality. 492 00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:54,039 So is it all is audience? Just people who just 493 00:38:54,119 --> 00:38:58,079 want to like play gotcha? Today? In the Sepharat, the 494 00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:04,199 deckad is actually one and apparently separation, apparent separation that 495 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,800 can demand harmony and give rise to polar bisexual structures 496 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,079 within the cabalistic notion of the godhead itself. This is 497 00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:15,400 based on the bisexual nature of primordial man, that he 498 00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:20,639 had two sexes. All right. This bisexuality was from Plato, 499 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,480 so you assume that I'm talking about the word can 500 00:39:24,559 --> 00:39:26,639 be used not just in the sense of having sex 501 00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:29,320 with two different people, but having both sexes. That's how 502 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,880 it's used in this. Just go get the scholarly text 503 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,519 and read it. Go ahead. 504 00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, And another goddess is Kaybella. I think that's how 505 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,079 you pronounce her name. I had to look it up. 506 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:49,440 So Kybella, Raya, Magna Mater, and Nana Ishtar. All of 507 00:39:49,519 --> 00:39:54,760 these like sex mother goddesses. Her cults are like crazy truons. 508 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 6: You can't say that. Oops, I told you not to 509 00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:59,400 say that on YouTube. 510 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:01,519 Speaker 3: Now what do we do? 511 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:07,159 Speaker 6: Okay, So it's just gonna mean that it'll be demonetized 512 00:40:07,199 --> 00:40:11,199 and it won't get promoted in the algorithm. So I 513 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,079 don't care, but it's the algorithm is just going to 514 00:40:13,159 --> 00:40:13,960 not promote the show. 515 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 3: Well, undataly, the most shocking practice by these people was 516 00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:27,039 the self c A s t r A, cutting your 517 00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:35,559 hot dog off and what else. So these people had 518 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,159 political groups in ancient Rome and ancient Greece that were 519 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,920 recognized by the Senate. So they're already infiltrating into like 520 00:40:48,159 --> 00:40:55,599 public forums and having golly rights and like they are 521 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,960 recognized parts of societ. 522 00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:04,599 Speaker 6: Yeah, so they became a kind of a welfare class too. 523 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,000 This is something you pointed out that not many people 524 00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:11,519 knows that they're they're the goblin socialist Antifa of the 525 00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:14,679 ancient world because they were also part of the welfare class. 526 00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:19,079 Speaker 3: Explain that, well, oh, because they would give like they 527 00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:24,000 would travel around from city to city, reading fortunes, doing 528 00:41:24,119 --> 00:41:30,840 tarot cards, doing dancing, giving concerts and a lot of them. 529 00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:33,679 If you didn't like give them enough money, they would 530 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,239 lift up their robes to show you their scars. And 531 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,280 that was like a curse to you that now you've 532 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:40,119 seen that you. 533 00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:42,599 Speaker 6: Can't make this up, so that Tier A and Z 534 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,559 would curse you by showing you their area they're mutilated 535 00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:50,079 when you didn't give them money as part of the 536 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,760 EBT cards that they were do. Yeah, that's not joke, 537 00:41:56,039 --> 00:41:56,199 I know. 538 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 3: So anybody who says, like goddess worship would be so 539 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,960 nice and it's just like pregnant when women sitting around 540 00:42:04,039 --> 00:42:07,079 being fanned, and it's not it's this stuff, and they 541 00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:08,519 were very much No, no, this is. 542 00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 6: A key point. So people think that the gaya worship 543 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,719 and the ancient goddess worship was oh, it was like 544 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,239 it was so peaceful when women were in charge, and no, no, 545 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,519 it was this. Yeah, women in charge of the ritual 546 00:42:22,599 --> 00:42:23,800 goddess cult what I'm saying. 547 00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:26,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, but a lot of times they weren't even in charge. 548 00:42:26,639 --> 00:42:26,760 Speaker 2: Of it. 549 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 3: It was still male priests. So like whoever's weaker is 550 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,840 going to get trampled on in these types poos. 551 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 6: Well, it's like Wilhelm Reich said, in order to have 552 00:42:36,159 --> 00:42:40,239 the end of the patriarchy, you have to promote free 553 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,559 love and the goddess and no boundaries for pan sexuality, 554 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,599 and then the patriarchy would fall. But of course he's 555 00:42:48,679 --> 00:42:52,239 a man saying this and trying to engineer and fund this. 556 00:42:52,320 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 3: From the background, they enjoy acknowledged begging rights. Their primary 557 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,719 religious function is to appear at weddings and childbirths to 558 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,239 call down the blessings of the goddess. 559 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 6: So I even put so they're welfare queens who are 560 00:43:07,199 --> 00:43:12,320 tier A and Z cult ritual Antifa, right, and. 561 00:43:12,599 --> 00:43:16,199 Speaker 3: So let's talk about this goddess that they're worshiping in 562 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,719 India was a big part of that paper. Is Collie, right, 563 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,039 And Collie's. 564 00:43:21,559 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 6: Callow me CALLI, COLLI CALLI, come and see I'm the 565 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,559 best deity. I used to be. 566 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 3: Collie's worshipers were called thugs or thuggies, and this is 567 00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:39,800 definitely where we get the word for gangsters. 568 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,599 Speaker 6: Ollie ma protextas we are her children. 569 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,760 Speaker 3: Her call is primarily men who murder other men. Huh 570 00:43:49,199 --> 00:43:51,920 for Collie and it is bad luck to murder women. 571 00:43:52,199 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 6: Why would they do that? Why would they because she's she. 572 00:43:56,159 --> 00:43:58,639 Speaker 3: Likes women, she's a protectorsslf. 573 00:43:58,679 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 6: Oh, and she just wants to get rid of men. 574 00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:02,960 But she sends men to get rid of men, right. 575 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 3: And what they would do is they robe around and 576 00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:09,400 they go to a town or a village and they 577 00:44:09,519 --> 00:44:12,760 send their best looking people into the town to kind 578 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,920 of befriend other travelers that are passing through. 579 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 7: Go with us, and so much be put to death. 580 00:44:24,039 --> 00:44:32,119 Speaker 8: Sir, come back, come back, sir, come back, sir, buddy, 581 00:44:32,119 --> 00:44:34,760 Fuck your buddy, ready, fuck your buddy. 582 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 6: I'm sorry. 583 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:40,800 Speaker 7: You have a good day today, have a good day. Yes, okay, 584 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:41,440 I have a good day. 585 00:44:41,559 --> 00:44:44,519 Speaker 3: That's how they do it. No, but okay, So they 586 00:44:44,559 --> 00:44:49,119 send their most attractive thuggy into town to riz up 587 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,360 fellow travelers. And they're like, oh, it's really and that's. 588 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,599 Speaker 6: This big, big buff guy that beat up Indian. Remember 589 00:44:54,639 --> 00:44:55,360 he beat up Indy. 590 00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, And they're like it's really dangerous. I've heard there's 591 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,440 like muggers on the road and maybe if you travel 592 00:45:04,519 --> 00:45:07,159 with our group, you know, there's safety and numbers, and 593 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,559 the people like, oh sweet, you know, okay, yeah, we'll 594 00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:14,719 travel with you. So they start traveling and they gain 595 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,440 all their trust, and a couple days into it, while 596 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,079 everybody's sitting around the fire, they give like a signal 597 00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:26,679 or a code word, and all the Thuggies immediately like 598 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,639 turned to the person next to them and choke them 599 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:35,199 at the same time, and usually like with a yellow 600 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,639 rope with a coin on it and like choke them out. 601 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 6: And then it makes me want to get a book 602 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,559 on the Thuggies. Although this is false. They're not the 603 00:45:43,639 --> 00:45:48,000 world's first organized gang and professional assassins. That existed in 604 00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:52,960 the ancient world as you're talking about. It existed amongst 605 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:59,079 the Hashashim, It existed amongst the Jews known as the Sikari, 606 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,119 who were the they try to assassinate the Romans, the Zealots. 607 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,519 So but I mean, maybe the Thuggies go back to 608 00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:10,119 the ancient world. Would they say they're like the ancient 609 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,719 true Hindu believers? 610 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 3: They're pretty old. Collie worshippers are pretty old. What was 611 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:23,719 he gonna say about Gugese? Oh so you have to 612 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,159 kill somebody to get. 613 00:46:26,119 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 6: Initiated, So are you saying this. Spielberg got this one 614 00:46:29,519 --> 00:46:30,480 right pretty much. 615 00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:32,639 Speaker 3: Well, they don't eat your heart or anything. They just 616 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,440 choke you. They don't like and. 617 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 6: Well it looks like they're just choking in these pictures. 618 00:46:40,679 --> 00:46:43,320 Speaker 3: Maybe they cut up some people, but like the usual 619 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,079 way is a young man finds an old man and 620 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,760 chokes him to death, and that's how he's initiated into thuggies. 621 00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:54,599 Speaker 6: Look at this, I got thuggy. You could get a 622 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,159 thuggy hoodie right here. You want to get a thuggy beanie. 623 00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:59,039 Speaker 3: But it doesn't. 624 00:46:59,119 --> 00:47:01,559 Speaker 6: We get send this a tim and he becomes an assassin. 625 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,119 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter to them in India. And one of 626 00:47:04,159 --> 00:47:08,440 these guys was making the really good point that Hindu 627 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:14,079 worldview is just leads to total destruction of your society, 628 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:15,559 as we have. 629 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 6: Seen Brada, that is why we come to America because 630 00:47:22,199 --> 00:47:23,079 dangerous d. 631 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 3: Right, so the maybe lose my trains thought when I'm laughing. 632 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,199 Speaker 6: Well now I'm thinking about, oh, that's why they have 633 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:37,639 ship in. 634 00:47:37,639 --> 00:47:40,559 Speaker 3: The street, because you when you die, you just come 635 00:47:40,679 --> 00:47:42,440 back and it's not even important. 636 00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 6: Life is not a life is devalued because you're coming 637 00:47:45,519 --> 00:47:45,920 right back. 638 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 3: So that's why they're like oh, just jump on the 639 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,599 funeral pyre with your husband because you have nothing left 640 00:47:51,639 --> 00:47:52,599 and you're just a mouth. 641 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 6: To feed now and you and that's why they would 642 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,760 tell him to hop on the wives. 643 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,320 Speaker 3: To die rct Suttie. 644 00:47:59,519 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 1: And then. 645 00:48:01,679 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 3: Another crazy thing about not just India but lots of 646 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,000 other places is foundation sacrifice. So every time they're building 647 00:48:09,079 --> 00:48:12,199 a building, right, they're gonna just like throw a couple 648 00:48:12,199 --> 00:48:16,360 of people into the foundation for good luck. Anytime they 649 00:48:16,519 --> 00:48:21,880 are planting a new crop or whatever, it's like, oh, 650 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,039 grab a kid and like sprinkle his blood because you know, 651 00:48:25,199 --> 00:48:29,559 for the gods or whatever. So foundation sacrifice was huge 652 00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:33,159 in India. And there's even like superstitions like do not walk, 653 00:48:33,639 --> 00:48:36,599 you know, in construction sizes even to this day because 654 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:37,639 like they just kick you in. 655 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 6: So did they have priests like Molaram or not the 656 00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:45,960 Thudi Thesets, I'm not sure. 657 00:48:46,039 --> 00:48:48,679 Speaker 3: Maybe there was like a leader of the gang, but 658 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,599 they didn't have like a super structured ritual. It was 659 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:57,719 more like like I described, ambushing campers. 660 00:48:59,159 --> 00:49:02,119 Speaker 6: Because this like pretty soon the papers he's going to 661 00:49:02,159 --> 00:49:04,840 be Molarom, Right, we'll have a He's basically this is 662 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,360 like a Vatican three will be it'll be presided over 663 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,119 by Molaram and then we'll get a we'll get a 664 00:49:09,159 --> 00:49:12,480 Thuggy right liturgy for the nova sorto. So this the 665 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,920 pat Rocaic is still defended. Oh it's bays and track 666 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,679 because it's ancient Thuggie right, what's up? 667 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,079 Speaker 3: That would be more according to the text I read, 668 00:49:20,119 --> 00:49:24,440 would be like the as text that was huge in 669 00:49:24,599 --> 00:49:28,039 their sure part of the world. So what they would 670 00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:34,440 do is wait for specific astrological things to be happening 671 00:49:34,559 --> 00:49:38,119 that nobody else knew knew about mm hmm. And just 672 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,159 like in mel Gibson's Apocalypto, like that was an integral 673 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,000 part that a lot of people catch on is that 674 00:49:44,159 --> 00:49:48,920 the preest craft are record keeping of astrology and all 675 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,159 of these other like signs that the general public is not, 676 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,880 and they use that on their superstition and say, uh, 677 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,119 they wait for the you know, eclipse, and they're like, 678 00:50:01,199 --> 00:50:02,880 we have to kill one hundred people to get rid 679 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,639 of the eclipse, and people like, okay, kill. 680 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 6: But you're right. So so Spielberg added the priest element, 681 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,280 what did it say? What you said? Spielberg added the 682 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,639 the molarom Molram is a great character though. 683 00:50:18,559 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 3: But so molaram is it aztech high priest plus a 684 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:23,559 Collie hug. 685 00:50:27,639 --> 00:50:29,320 Speaker 7: With fun and did the Hebrew God with fun? 686 00:50:30,039 --> 00:50:30,320 Speaker 6: Says that. 687 00:50:30,679 --> 00:50:33,599 Speaker 3: Yeah. But okay, so since we're talking about Aztecs for 688 00:50:33,639 --> 00:50:38,440 a second, a lot of people think that the Native 689 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:44,079 Americans were super peaceful and the colonials were assholes and uh, 690 00:50:44,199 --> 00:50:46,679 you know, colonizers or whatever. It was more of a 691 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,280 mixed bag. It was like there were cool tribes and 692 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,559 there were crazy tribes. There were cannibal tribes, and they 693 00:50:52,599 --> 00:50:59,440 were like peaceful, uh, thriving tribes. And the big ones 694 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,880 with the big religion, like let's say the Aztecs, they 695 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:06,480 would go around kidnapping people from the smaller tribes and 696 00:51:06,559 --> 00:51:09,880 bringing them back to the capitol and sacrificing in them. 697 00:51:10,199 --> 00:51:13,239 And that's why when Cortes got there and the Knquistcors 698 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,719 got there, a lot of tribes aligned with them because 699 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:21,000 they're like, uh, these Aztecs are sacrificing everyone, can you 700 00:51:21,039 --> 00:51:23,960 please help us overthrow them? And the Conquistrators were like bet. 701 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 6: And that's how we're not far. We're not actually far 702 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:34,679 from the Mola Ram liturgy, because you guys, forget we 703 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:39,039 did multiple everybody's already forgotten in the weekly scandals of 704 00:51:39,199 --> 00:51:43,199 the papacy. Everybody's already forgotten the Amazonian Right, which was 705 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,480 incorporating all these indigenous indigenous pagan practices. And this is 706 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,440 this is when we had Pacha Mama, and Pacha Mama 707 00:51:50,519 --> 00:51:53,880 is a human sacrifice deity. So when Francis honored Pacha 708 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,719 Mama and they were rolling out this Amazonian Right ritual 709 00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:03,880 of the liturgy, I'm not I'm literally like not kidding 710 00:52:04,039 --> 00:52:08,360 when I say we are almost at the traditional Latin 711 00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:12,159 thug Ee right ritual, the traditional Hindi. It'll be ancient 712 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,559 Hindi texts, so that'll make it more magical and powerful 713 00:52:14,559 --> 00:52:15,679 because it's ancient. Go ahead. 714 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,400 Speaker 3: That's a lot. A thing that a lot of people 715 00:52:18,639 --> 00:52:24,599 need to realize about Hinduism and Yoga and these Eastern 716 00:52:24,679 --> 00:52:27,880 religions is they do not value human life. They don't 717 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,239 value women like you think they do. They are not 718 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:37,199 like peaceful, feminine worshiping uh. Pacifists. 719 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's all bullshit that modern social engineers and cult 720 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:46,519 leaders craft in geo's think tanks, foundations. They all the 721 00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:49,119 new the United Nations, they all sell it as this 722 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:55,719 peaceful indigenous you know, organic uh you know, not we're 723 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,960 not consumerist in living up the land like indigen which 724 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,119 is not really what any of this is. That's the thing. 725 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:03,719 The reality is what you're saying. 726 00:53:05,639 --> 00:53:08,880 Speaker 3: And even Buddha didn't have a very high opinion of women, 727 00:53:09,079 --> 00:53:13,079 So I don't understand why women would be attracted to that. 728 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,519 Speaker 6: Well, nobody knows what the religions actually teach. Everybody chooses 729 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:22,480 the instagram, uh you know yoga Matt like version of it. 730 00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:27,199 I just got my Gaya Yoga Matt and it has 731 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,880 the picture of the Buddha. It is spiritual. It's really spiritual. 732 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:32,760 Speaker 3: Just meditate it. 733 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,760 Speaker 6: So who cares what really was the you know, religious teaching. 734 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,719 It's the same with like the histrionic Roman Catholic women 735 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:45,239 saints that are cutting themselves, engaging in the same type 736 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,039 of self harm. But you have to accept that as 737 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,079 Romance Catholic Roman Catholic sanctity because it's it's in two 738 00:53:53,119 --> 00:53:56,400 papal documents. You have to accept Margaret Marla. 739 00:53:56,159 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 3: Coque and only Christianity and Orthodoxy especially elevates women above this. 740 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,199 Speaker 6: Uh Dano has a good point. Buddha was just a 741 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,559 dark triad player. He had the dark triad traits and 742 00:54:10,599 --> 00:54:11,440 he was just. 743 00:54:14,679 --> 00:54:17,800 Speaker 3: No, didn't he leave Like the day his wife gave birth. 744 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,039 He was like, I'm out. I don't understand any of this. 745 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:20,639 I don't know. 746 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,199 Speaker 6: All I ever think about is Keano as the Buddha. 747 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,280 You've never seen it, but it's it's if you've seen 748 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:34,960 Little Buddha, it's funny. Yeah, look at this. In fact, 749 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:39,400 it would it would be worth watching. So here he 750 00:54:39,559 --> 00:54:41,800 is is that he's got his macing on his princess. 751 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,599 But he decides that he's got too much, too many pleasures, 752 00:54:47,639 --> 00:54:51,519 and he he doesn't the his father Walt you know 753 00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:54,800 the story. His father walled him in to keep him 754 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,559 from the taint of the world, and then he decided 755 00:54:57,599 --> 00:54:59,880 it was too easy, so he went to go experience 756 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:05,000 the world anyway. But all I ever think about is 757 00:55:05,159 --> 00:55:12,519 kan play. He's he's doing brown face dude, and he's 758 00:55:12,599 --> 00:55:15,800 like the Buddha or whatever. But he's a perfectly cast 759 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,280 like California guy as the Buddha. 760 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 3: Bro. 761 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:25,199 Speaker 6: I remember he faced off against body Buddy Sadva in 762 00:55:27,559 --> 00:55:30,360 surf movie Johnny Utah versus Buddy. 763 00:55:30,639 --> 00:55:32,159 Speaker 3: Who disappeared into the waves. 764 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 6: I just went blank point break. So he's fighting body 765 00:55:38,119 --> 00:55:41,039 the Buddha in point break. Then he becomes the Buddha 766 00:55:41,519 --> 00:55:42,840 only a little bit later. 767 00:55:43,159 --> 00:55:46,119 Speaker 3: Someone just said I should have sister anaesthesia. 768 00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:46,159 Speaker 1: On my show. 769 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,360 Speaker 6: Well, you see all of this and you think, oh, 770 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,719 look how mystical and spiritual, and uh, this is so 771 00:55:53,039 --> 00:55:58,400 like profound. And then when you look at the recent video, 772 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,599 shout out to one of our editors who edited together. 773 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:03,519 Did you see this? 774 00:56:05,039 --> 00:56:08,400 Speaker 7: Look at it, Brad, what you're doing We've been sor. 775 00:56:11,079 --> 00:56:13,280 Speaker 6: It's just it's just I'm sure it's just. 776 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 7: No cooking by the river. 777 00:56:17,079 --> 00:56:18,079 Speaker 6: Do not cook by river? 778 00:56:18,519 --> 00:56:20,440 Speaker 1: Well fast, making a simple point. 779 00:56:21,039 --> 00:56:28,159 Speaker 6: TV block you for this. Now I realized. 780 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:35,199 Speaker 7: The one that I can spirit very much. Spirituard. Look at. 781 00:56:37,599 --> 00:56:41,239 Speaker 6: Look how skinny is You should want it. It's funny, 782 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:45,280 it's it's well, you'll have to see it. We should 783 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,719 do an analysis of it. It's pretty funny actually. But 784 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,639 so he's he's got him a Desi chick, and then 785 00:56:52,679 --> 00:56:54,199 he just is like, no, I'm out of here, dude. 786 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,440 So is this the deadbeat dad thing you're talking about? 787 00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:57,360 He because he leaves her. 788 00:56:57,599 --> 00:57:02,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, Indian women dress is so beautiful. 789 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:05,039 Speaker 6: Spirit. 790 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:12,599 Speaker 3: I just wish they had a better worldview because is 791 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,320 like probably the most beautiful in the world. I don't 792 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:16,719 know one, it's top. 793 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:17,559 Speaker 7: It's okay. 794 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:22,559 Speaker 6: Jamie wants to be she wants to be a princess. Sorry, 795 00:57:25,079 --> 00:57:28,679 Keanu Temple here and in brown face, that is Jamie. 796 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,760 Speaker 7: Look at Jamie Brown you are You are like a 797 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,519 petty of my arm. You are the beautiful. 798 00:57:39,119 --> 00:57:42,039 Speaker 3: Somebody just said I should have Sister Anesthesia on the channel, 799 00:57:42,159 --> 00:57:45,119 and your wish already came true. I mean I didn't 800 00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:49,960 have her, but I reviewed her book on the YouTube 801 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,320 member section on my channel and we talk all about 802 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,000 this and a little bonus book that was a funny 803 00:57:57,079 --> 00:58:00,599 thing about a I mean, it was funny, but it 804 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,960 was another lady who converted to Orthodoxy from a weird 805 00:58:05,079 --> 00:58:06,800 cult that where they spanked each other. 806 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:08,159 Speaker 7: WHOA. 807 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,079 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're not talking about this girl. 808 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 3: No, I don't know where the book went. 809 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,079 Speaker 6: Well, so people are asking, wait a minute, is that Keano. Yes, 810 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,360 Keano played the Buddha in the nineteen ninety three movie 811 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,239 Little Buddha. The movie is terrible, but it's so bad 812 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,320 it's funny. It's actually worth watching because it's actually funny 813 00:58:26,119 --> 00:58:31,559 life and so Bridget Fonda is tasked with like finding 814 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,199 the new Buddha, right, because it gets reincarnated and it 815 00:58:34,239 --> 00:58:38,559 turns out it's this little blonde kid looks like Macaulay 816 00:58:38,599 --> 00:58:43,400 culkin uh In like in Buena Vista. So she finds 817 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,800 the new Buddha and then they send the Dalai Lama who, 818 00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,880 by the way, it seems like a creep right who 819 00:58:49,199 --> 00:58:54,280 kisses kids on the mouth. Remember that. And for those 820 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:55,920 that don't know, like a lot of this buddhas shit, 821 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,760 it's a bunch of same old cult mind control in kltry, 822 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,239 human trafficking, tied end of the CIA. We talked about 823 00:59:01,239 --> 00:59:07,920 it for forever. So Tibetan Buddhism is pretty dark when 824 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,880 you really study it. I'm not an expert on it, 825 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:10,679 but it's pretty dark. 826 00:59:11,119 --> 00:59:13,480 Speaker 3: Well, there is a left hand path of Tibetan Buddhism. 827 00:59:13,519 --> 00:59:15,159 Speaker 6: So, hey, is that Chris Isaac. 828 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:16,119 Speaker 3: It looks like him. 829 00:59:16,679 --> 00:59:18,960 Speaker 6: What is he doing in this movie? Anyway? Yeah, there is. 830 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,840 The Buddhists have a the left hand path where you 831 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,360 the Tibetan Buddhists, where you do all the evil that 832 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,119 you can so that you've experienced evil, so that you 833 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:28,079 know evil and good. 834 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:35,159 Speaker 3: Well, since we're talking about Buddhism, Okay, So she sister Anastasia, 835 00:59:37,079 --> 00:59:39,519 and again I go through this whole book on my channel. 836 00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:40,639 It's called You Are Mine. 837 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:41,599 Speaker 1: Uh. 838 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 3: She was studying to be in lom Rim, which is 839 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:47,760 like the super buddhast. 840 00:59:49,119 --> 00:59:51,480 Speaker 6: Well, I've never heard of l A m R. 841 00:59:51,559 --> 00:59:52,039 Speaker 2: I am. 842 00:59:54,079 --> 00:59:58,480 Speaker 3: Lom Rim. That's how Buddhism. 843 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 6: Okay, I'm guessing that's not Keanu Reeves Hollywood Buddhism. 844 01:00:05,239 --> 01:00:06,639 Speaker 3: No long room is a path. 845 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,199 Speaker 6: This dude's taking it serious. This boomer's taking it serious. 846 01:00:10,239 --> 01:00:13,599 Speaker 3: They are super serious. And I'm not surprised that she 847 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,679 ended up being coming a nun because whatever is. 848 01:00:16,719 --> 01:00:20,760 Speaker 4: Two Tibetan words meaning stages of the path. So stages 849 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:21,400 of what paths? 850 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,199 Speaker 6: Okay, I'm sorry, I'm not trying to cut you off. 851 01:00:26,239 --> 01:00:26,960 I've just never heard of this. 852 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,599 Speaker 4: So this is a path designed by the Buddha. So 853 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,519 it he's the path that he took, and he's a 854 01:00:33,559 --> 01:00:36,880 path that he's inviting us to follow. So it's not 855 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:43,199 a path on the ground. A well, lom is to 856 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:44,119 Tibetan words. 857 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,559 Speaker 6: This guy's got at least it almost looks orthodox. 858 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,599 Speaker 5: How are you? My name is Jason or my monk's 859 01:00:53,679 --> 01:00:56,800 names up today? I would like to. 860 01:00:57,039 --> 01:01:00,679 Speaker 6: So they take names too, like Christians are with you 861 01:01:01,199 --> 01:01:01,880 just a little bit. 862 01:01:02,079 --> 01:01:02,840 Speaker 3: It's a little morning. 863 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:07,039 Speaker 5: Really, what is philosophy? It's coming from one teacher recalling 864 01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:14,679 Buddha or s who came in India more than two thousand, 865 01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:15,880 five hundred years. 866 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:24,920 Speaker 6: Do you know about We've covered this many times so 867 01:01:25,039 --> 01:01:31,119 that the CI reached out to use them. It's called 868 01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:34,840 the CIA Tibetan program against China. 869 01:01:35,679 --> 01:01:40,920 Speaker 3: Tiny mustache Man also used a elite Tibetan monk Army. 870 01:01:41,559 --> 01:01:44,320 Speaker 6: As his personal The dolly Lamb at that time was 871 01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:45,960 pro Tiny mustache Man. H. 872 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:54,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, So she had quite an interesting life. She was 873 01:01:54,679 --> 01:01:59,000 in and out of rehab and then she like tried 874 01:01:59,039 --> 01:02:03,000 to become this super strict Buddhist until she met a 875 01:02:03,119 --> 01:02:06,880 father Theofan, and she was like this is the way, 876 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,320 and she had to get out of all of her cults. 877 01:02:11,559 --> 01:02:16,559 So she was like doing plant medicine, ayahuasca, psychedelics, Buddhism, 878 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:23,519 womb healing. Does she say what was like the main 879 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:25,320 she was cult maxine, for sure, But. 880 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,079 Speaker 6: I'm saying what was like the breaking point where she 881 01:02:28,159 --> 01:02:29,599 went with Christianity. 882 01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 3: Meeting that priest and saying he was like angelic and 883 01:02:36,159 --> 01:02:40,960 beautiful and also some like dark things that with like 884 01:02:41,159 --> 01:02:48,599 visions of demonic stuff versus Christ like visions visiting monasteries, 885 01:02:48,719 --> 01:02:51,239 and some spiritual warfare. 886 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,599 Speaker 6: You can keep talking. 887 01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean, if you want to any any 888 01:03:00,119 --> 01:03:02,039 you want to know about this book, that's already on 889 01:03:02,119 --> 01:03:05,960 my channel, so we can't what your wish already came true. 890 01:03:06,039 --> 01:03:12,239 Whoever requested that. So we were talking about antiquity and Mesopotamia, Sumer, 891 01:03:13,199 --> 01:03:17,360 all of these crazy kings that you hear about that 892 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:25,760 like slaughtered people and zimriy Limb and Sargon and these warlords. 893 01:03:26,079 --> 01:03:30,039 So all of that part of history was you know, 894 01:03:30,159 --> 01:03:34,719 these competing cults basically warring against each other. And that's 895 01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:36,239 kind of the point we were trying to make on 896 01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:41,360 that show about Face Lords is like now it's cyber cults, 897 01:03:42,039 --> 01:03:44,559 and I was afraid something bad was going to happen. 898 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:52,880 That happened because people are so crazed and cult like 899 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:57,199 that it's becoming dangerous to say things in public now 900 01:03:58,000 --> 01:03:59,599 if you catch my drift of power. 901 01:04:00,519 --> 01:04:03,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just trying to find where the Nazis and 902 01:04:04,079 --> 01:04:07,679 the uh there's a book on this actually read years 903 01:04:07,679 --> 01:04:10,440 ago where the di Lama was it had nothing to 904 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,880 do with being baze. It's just to do with geopolitical powers. 905 01:04:14,079 --> 01:04:16,360 So if you think it's base, there's nothing to do 906 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,760 with that. I mean this, it's like it's like a 907 01:04:20,199 --> 01:04:22,639 they do all the same weird sex cult stuff even 908 01:04:22,679 --> 01:04:24,639 though you think it's this, I'm talking about what the elites. 909 01:04:24,679 --> 01:04:30,760 I'm not talking about the average mine washed Buddhist monk. 910 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,000 Speaker 3: And that's one of the things that she was saying 911 01:04:33,039 --> 01:04:35,960 about her gurus is She's like, they came on to 912 01:04:36,079 --> 01:04:38,519 me and I'm like, I knew it because they're always 913 01:04:38,559 --> 01:04:46,760 like Guru such. Yeah, but you need the Shiva lingams. 914 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,679 Speaker 6: In your own What does Frank say, Remember when they 915 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:53,320 create a health cult and Frank says, time to get 916 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:57,000 you in the healing bab Yeah, right, yeah, a new 917 01:04:57,079 --> 01:04:58,119 age tale. 918 01:04:58,199 --> 01:05:03,199 Speaker 3: Yes exactly. It's just creepers, creeping. And even Gandhi he 919 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,880 let his wife die because he was trying to reject 920 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,159 Western medicine. But it was good enough for him. 921 01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,639 Speaker 6: Well, he had all kinds of babes. He was all 922 01:05:13,639 --> 01:05:14,199 over the place. 923 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, he would want young women to sleep in the 924 01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:16,840 bed with him. 925 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,559 Speaker 6: And anyway, people don't know Gandhi was actually a theosophist. 926 01:05:20,039 --> 01:05:23,440 Uh he went to Madam Blewetski's funeral, so a lot 927 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,000 of people think that he was British Intelligence as well. 928 01:05:26,679 --> 01:05:29,320 Eternal Bugman became a member. Catherine Long became a member. 929 01:05:29,559 --> 01:05:32,679 ARCon Games became a member. Says Jay, you and Jamie, 930 01:05:32,719 --> 01:05:35,079 can you consider consider doing a stream where you review 931 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,639 dating profiles? Actually, we are going to do this. We're 932 01:05:37,679 --> 01:05:41,039 going to do a advice for Guys and Girls dating 933 01:05:41,639 --> 01:05:45,360 podcast and that's actually a good idea to also review 934 01:05:45,719 --> 01:05:47,719 and make fun of dating profiles. That sounds good. 935 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:49,719 Speaker 3: We're going to do a love stream and then you 936 01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,519 can call in because I think I can heal in 937 01:05:52,599 --> 01:05:55,800 cults with my healing advice. 938 01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,039 Speaker 6: I'm skeptical, but I'll listen. David Hampton became a member. 939 01:05:59,079 --> 01:06:02,400 What Sam became rember A Pannini. I wonder what name 940 01:06:02,639 --> 01:06:05,119 they'll give to the first fifteen minute cities in Gaza 941 01:06:05,199 --> 01:06:10,199 in Ukraine. Yes, get creative and come up with a name. 942 01:06:10,239 --> 01:06:12,760 Vuol True of five dollars, Dire Squad stand up. Thank 943 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,360 you so much. V Scott five dollars. I love when 944 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,159 you have Jamie on, and I love having love having 945 01:06:18,239 --> 01:06:21,239 Jamie on again. Thank you v Scott Job. Do you 946 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,719 think the sanctuary at the top of the cigarettes is 947 01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:29,039 where the Nephelin were produced? Who knows? I mean I 948 01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:31,400 read a book of ench a long time ago, and 949 01:06:31,679 --> 01:06:33,840 I don't remember all the details because it's like the 950 01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,280 first part, the first several chapters, is the story of 951 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,599 the watchers and the human sacrifice, the Nephelin and all 952 01:06:39,639 --> 01:06:41,920 that that they that they demand, and then it turns 953 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:47,280 into these visions of mountains and it becomes very difficult 954 01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:52,039 to interpret. King og of Bashan's bed was found at 955 01:06:52,079 --> 01:06:54,360 the top of one. Yeah, it could be seven eleven, 956 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,360 ten dollars. Thank you for your videos. God bless you. 957 01:06:56,440 --> 01:07:00,199 Thank you so much. Who is like God? Thirty five czars. Hey, 958 01:07:00,239 --> 01:07:02,880 you saved me from a modern cult the Freemasons. God 959 01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:04,960 bless you. Well, that's great here, God bless you have 960 01:07:05,039 --> 01:07:08,119 a good stream shout out. If you want everyone an 961 01:07:08,239 --> 01:07:11,800 internal views, I think you an interview. Jack Wonders five 962 01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:13,840 dollars just doing my part. Appreciate you, guys. I became 963 01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,360 a catechumen next week thanks to you, mate. Well, thank you, Jack. 964 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:20,159 Appreciate that. Nico five dollars. Odin would a gun and 965 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:25,760 beard oil Odin would a guns and beard oil kind 966 01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:29,239 of soymn Odin was guns. 967 01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:33,519 Speaker 3: And bulls about peaceful Vikings for a second. 968 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,920 Speaker 6: Let's go into Vikings because we forget those and there 969 01:07:36,039 --> 01:07:39,320 is the rise of the neo pagan stuff Oden stuff 970 01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,119 everywhere now so and I've been talking about this for 971 01:07:41,239 --> 01:07:41,760 like six years. 972 01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:45,719 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, everyone was so super peaceful until Christian colonizers 973 01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:47,920 came along. Ever heard of the blood? 974 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:53,719 Speaker 6: Eagle blood? Is that what's on Odin's That is what they. 975 01:07:53,679 --> 01:07:59,480 Speaker 3: Do to you and they cut you along everything out 976 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,079 that was in a horror movie. So they asked they 977 01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:08,079 did definitely do human sacrifice to the gods battles. We 978 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:14,079 was Vikings mega battle or mega sacrifice to the gods. 979 01:08:14,239 --> 01:08:15,119 Speaker 6: We was Vikings. 980 01:08:16,119 --> 01:08:20,239 Speaker 3: And weird Viking stuff is coming out with the Charlie 981 01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:25,960 Kirk like when they said we'll see you in Valhalla 982 01:08:26,039 --> 01:08:26,680 and stuff like that. 983 01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,760 Speaker 6: That's just I don't people make a big deal about 984 01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,960 him using some word like it was code. I mean, 985 01:08:32,039 --> 01:08:35,239 he's just a person talking. It's not. And maybe as 986 01:08:35,239 --> 01:08:37,319 a Hindu is kash matela Hindu is a Catholic. I 987 01:08:37,319 --> 01:08:39,439 don't know what, but maybe he believed, maybe they believe 988 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:43,279 Hindus believe that all the religions are the same. Yeah, 989 01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,199 so like a Hindu will come into a church and 990 01:08:46,399 --> 01:08:49,279 like honor and praise the priest because they just think 991 01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:51,920 it's another way to go to the deities. 992 01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:59,159 Speaker 3: So another thing they would do is uh called ergi, 993 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:03,359 which is if the Viking men thought that another man 994 01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,840 was acting too feminine, they would kill him. 995 01:09:06,359 --> 01:09:09,359 Speaker 6: But but what that actually means isn't what you guys think, 996 01:09:09,399 --> 01:09:12,479 Oh those true? No, no, no, it's go ahead. 997 01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,720 Speaker 3: Well, if you didn't want to, like say, raid a 998 01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:20,800 monastery or do a murder or pillaging or whatever, if 999 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,760 you were starting to have a conscience, because the missionaries 1000 01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:27,119 were coming to the Viking tribes and they actually did 1001 01:09:27,279 --> 01:09:32,520 end up converting, but in that process, if you were 1002 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:36,880 becoming more Christianized, you were seen as feminine and you 1003 01:09:37,199 --> 01:09:39,840 were liable to be put out of the tribe or 1004 01:09:40,199 --> 01:09:41,800 just killed or banished. 1005 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:47,199 Speaker 6: So what it means is not you know, honor duty 1006 01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,399 defending your people. Now, if you won't go loot and 1007 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:55,640 pillage a Christian church, then you get what is it? 1008 01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,840 And what does that mean? You get beat up? 1009 01:09:59,199 --> 01:10:02,199 Speaker 3: What? Yeah, so any kind of punishment they feel like, 1010 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:03,960 you know, so yeah. 1011 01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,439 Speaker 6: Peace was feminine and this is a berserker. This is 1012 01:10:07,159 --> 01:10:11,479 you try to invoke the animal to take you over 1013 01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,920 to fight, right the wolf Boys, the Wolf Pact member 1014 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:19,840 in Northman. Yeah, when he did this dance before raiding 1015 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,399 the village. So a lot of remember it was Byork 1016 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:24,159 that was the witch. 1017 01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:25,159 Speaker 2: I know. 1018 01:10:27,079 --> 01:10:29,520 Speaker 3: One thing that all these cults have in common is drugs. 1019 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:34,880 So let's talk about Greece for a second, because these 1020 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:43,720 goddesses of the ancient world became gods also were syncretized 1021 01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:48,199 into like the Pantheon of Zeus and then Roman religion. Right, 1022 01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,079 so now you have so the. 1023 01:10:51,119 --> 01:10:52,479 Speaker 6: Vikings were all cat boys. 1024 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,800 Speaker 3: No, they're the wolf who's that one weird guy, jacked. 1025 01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:02,399 Speaker 6: On clean guy who creates his own wolf pack? 1026 01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:02,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1027 01:11:04,399 --> 01:11:08,800 Speaker 3: So where is the Greek book? 1028 01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:09,119 Speaker 7: Okay? 1029 01:11:09,239 --> 01:11:14,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, so here Greece and Rome, you have your mystery 1030 01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:20,760 schools and worshiping what's her name, Sarah and Persephone. 1031 01:11:21,359 --> 01:11:25,479 Speaker 6: So in the Norseman, right, York, I think she gets 1032 01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,880 burned up because she's the witch of the first village. 1033 01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,760 She's like the sorceress shaman of the village that they raid. 1034 01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:38,239 And then when he gets caught and he's the prisoner 1035 01:11:38,359 --> 01:11:42,479 of the other one. And then you remember Anya Taylor 1036 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:46,560 Joy is the sorceress and she's the witch in this part, 1037 01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:53,039 and they organize a psyop where they give the whole 1038 01:11:53,359 --> 01:11:54,239 village mushrooms. 1039 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:54,760 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1040 01:11:55,159 --> 01:12:00,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, so she's using mushroom witchcraft, right, So what I'm 1041 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:04,960 asking is, according to Cotel, he says that the Nordic 1042 01:12:05,119 --> 01:12:10,760 tribes did utilize mushrooms. Yes, did you read. 1043 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:14,000 Speaker 3: About any of that, not specifically that that's in like 1044 01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:16,800 that Terrence McKennon book. 1045 01:12:17,279 --> 01:12:19,159 Speaker 6: I don't trust him, but. 1046 01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:25,479 Speaker 3: Oh, made by Jimbaw. People just came, that's nice. 1047 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,960 Speaker 6: I'm gonna need a a scar. This is what Cotel 1048 01:12:28,039 --> 01:12:31,000 is always talking about. And this is where you get 1049 01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:31,720 father mushroom. 1050 01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:40,720 Speaker 3: Yes, and some people put Santa Claus in that because 1051 01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:42,840 the Reindeers eat the mushrooms and fly and all that. 1052 01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:50,600 So in Greece, goddess worshipping became mystery schools, uh, the 1053 01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:55,000 Elusinian mysteries in particular, they would use a drink, a 1054 01:12:55,119 --> 01:12:57,960 drug drink called kaikion. As part. 1055 01:12:59,279 --> 01:13:03,159 Speaker 6: We cover this is the Elusinian mysteries, the kai Kion, 1056 01:13:03,239 --> 01:13:05,039 which is believed to be a hallucinogenic thing. 1057 01:13:06,239 --> 01:13:12,159 Speaker 3: So yes, sex drugs and drum beats. So basically rock 1058 01:13:12,199 --> 01:13:18,960 and roll is how you make a cult. That and superstition. 1059 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,439 Remember when we did that show like Top ten Cult, 1060 01:13:24,359 --> 01:13:28,560 Top ten Ways you know you're in a cult or 1061 01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,760 something like that. It was classic, but you should go 1062 01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:35,079 back and watch that because what we're talking about is 1063 01:13:35,159 --> 01:13:39,119 how easily you can be initiated into a cyber cult 1064 01:13:39,279 --> 01:13:46,359 now and it's so dangerous, but the ways to get 1065 01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:50,079 you interested in this are super psychological, easy tricks that 1066 01:13:50,279 --> 01:13:52,600 people have been using since the beginning of time. 1067 01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,439 Speaker 6: I'm listening to you. I'm just trying to find the 1068 01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:59,560 name of this Tomty. Tomty is this little guy that's 1069 01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:04,840 like a little little uh no, Hyperborea baby, look at him. 1070 01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,479 That's Tumpty and he's associated with mushrooms. That's father Mushroom, 1071 01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:19,279 father toadstool. Yeah exactly, remember him. Yeah, that's Swedish. Grandma's 1072 01:14:19,279 --> 01:14:28,319 are going to tell you this, h I don't like, Well, 1073 01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:34,039 allow me to change your mind. Everybody loves this when 1074 01:14:34,079 --> 01:14:35,960 we go when we go here, I don't like when 1075 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:36,520 we go here. 1076 01:14:37,039 --> 01:14:37,279 Speaker 5: Car. 1077 01:14:39,199 --> 01:14:52,199 Speaker 2: O, you house, your wanting. 1078 01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:54,880 Speaker 1: Baby talk you. 1079 01:15:02,399 --> 01:15:04,159 Speaker 2: Only some way stuff. 1080 01:15:05,319 --> 01:15:12,000 Speaker 1: Don't know. We tell you to have. 1081 01:15:14,079 --> 01:15:15,640 Speaker 6: Only a lowly. 1082 01:15:17,159 --> 01:15:26,359 Speaker 2: We know love you staring at Eve the know a 1083 01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:37,479 t stock conco and go. So he's feeling crossly. Never 1084 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:38,840 to talk channel. 1085 01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,119 Speaker 3: Never in coaching too much. 1086 01:15:41,279 --> 01:15:52,199 Speaker 2: Start you only only sas know. 1087 01:15:57,319 --> 01:15:58,479 Speaker 7: We know you've been. 1088 01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,000 Speaker 3: Having seen all. 1089 01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:04,800 Speaker 6: Okay, of course, if you've never seen one of the 1090 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:08,800 best riff tracks, Father Frost is one of the best. 1091 01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:14,159 It's a classic. And Father Frost has Tompty or Father 1092 01:16:14,359 --> 01:16:16,279 Mushroom or whatever he's supposed. 1093 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,720 Speaker 3: To be what he is. Now we know what you're in, 1094 01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:21,520 uh tomy. 1095 01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:23,720 Speaker 6: But if you want to this is why we became 1096 01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:30,000 Russian Orthodox is because of the oh what's the guy's name? 1097 01:16:30,279 --> 01:16:35,279 He turns into a he turns into a bear anyway, 1098 01:16:35,359 --> 01:16:42,239 go ahead? Oh no, oh, that's from the office. I'm 1099 01:16:42,239 --> 01:16:45,960 going blank on his name Lemon Conon. Maybe it's Lemon Coyon. 1100 01:16:46,159 --> 01:16:51,239 Speaker 3: Go ahead, what are we talking about, Oh Greece. Do 1101 01:16:51,279 --> 01:16:55,520 you remember in Midsommer the shaman was a slow boy, 1102 01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:58,560 their village shaman. 1103 01:16:59,359 --> 01:17:02,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, that was weird. It was weird. 1104 01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:06,640 Speaker 3: Let's s build a cult around a slow boy and 1105 01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:07,800 his revelations. 1106 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:15,119 Speaker 6: Oh, here's Father Mushroom. See I've already played this clip. Now, 1107 01:17:15,199 --> 01:17:22,119 this is when he turns into a bear Russo Finish 1108 01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:30,640 folk tales of the Nordic Russian lands where is. 1109 01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:41,000 Speaker 3: Oh? 1110 01:17:41,079 --> 01:17:45,000 Speaker 6: It kind of has a Cinderella element to it. So 1111 01:17:45,079 --> 01:17:47,960 basically this goofy nineteen sixties movie that RIFP tracks made 1112 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,359 fun of. It's a combination of like five or six 1113 01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:57,199 different old folk tales Russo Finish folk tales. And eventually 1114 01:17:57,279 --> 01:18:02,880 they get to like father Frost, who is basically Santa 1115 01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:09,079 Claus or here, but he has a name in Russian. 1116 01:18:09,079 --> 01:18:15,479 I forget the name of him. What's the name for 1117 01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:19,319 the Russian Santa Claus? The pagan Santa Claus? And every 1118 01:18:19,359 --> 01:18:21,560 time I bring this outher like this is a Soviet thing. 1119 01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:23,359 I know it's a Soviet thing, but it goes back 1120 01:18:23,399 --> 01:18:26,439 older than the Soviets. But they wanted a like here. 1121 01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,439 It is when he goes to here's father Frost killed 1122 01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:30,119 a girlfriend. 1123 01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,720 Speaker 7: Greetings, Grandfather Frost, have you come fanastica? 1124 01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:36,800 Speaker 3: Oh? 1125 01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:38,800 Speaker 6: Shut up? I hate you already and I don't even 1126 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:43,640 know you. She's why do I even bother to look 1127 01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:51,239 like Simon Lebon? He does look like Simon Laughan, and 1128 01:18:51,399 --> 01:18:56,560 she's smiling that she's alive. See, Father Frost is basically 1129 01:18:57,079 --> 01:19:01,439 pre dead, morose that's it. Dead Moro is who this is? 1130 01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:04,239 Speaker 3: I never heard of him? 1131 01:19:05,319 --> 01:19:07,319 Speaker 6: Yeah you have. I brought her up in the past. 1132 01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:16,800 Oh weird slav He's a Slavic mythological character who's kind 1133 01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:18,439 of sort of Santa Claus. 1134 01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:22,399 Speaker 3: So if you take Dead Morose and Coca Cola, you 1135 01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,359 get Santa Okay, I. 1136 01:19:25,399 --> 01:19:26,560 Speaker 6: Mean, look look at in there. 1137 01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:28,159 Speaker 3: Whoa dude. 1138 01:19:30,119 --> 01:19:36,119 Speaker 6: But he's just like Father Frost and Father Frost. Yeah, anyway, 1139 01:19:36,239 --> 01:19:41,720 do you remember this mister side suitor? Yeah, classic earth 1140 01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:45,520 pic drink. This is the witch what you're talking about? 1141 01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:45,840 Speaker 7: Frost? 1142 01:19:50,199 --> 01:19:52,479 Speaker 6: Anyway, where are we at? What's going on? 1143 01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:57,119 Speaker 3: Elucidian mysteries and ancient Greece and the Kai. 1144 01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:59,920 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, Cootel talks about this a lot. 1145 01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:04,640 Speaker 3: So that's a huge cult and that's where we get 1146 01:20:05,119 --> 01:20:09,039 our ideas of modern day theater, right. 1147 01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:15,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean there probably isn't overlap. Like the 1148 01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:19,359 first chapter in this Cambridge Companion about the ancient mysteries 1149 01:20:19,359 --> 01:20:21,560 and the elisent and mysteries. It does talk about it 1150 01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:23,840 like it's a ritual play, dramaturgy and all that. 1151 01:20:24,199 --> 01:20:25,319 Speaker 3: Well, even the word drama. 1152 01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:25,600 Speaker 1: Non. 1153 01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:26,920 Speaker 3: It was part of their. 1154 01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:33,359 Speaker 6: Ritual see kaik potion and it might be similar to LSD, 1155 01:20:34,079 --> 01:20:38,159 which would give you a intense drug trip when you converted. 1156 01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:44,920 Speaker 3: And this was also like a fertility type earth worshiping goddess. 1157 01:20:45,159 --> 01:20:49,600 It was about series and Persephone, and Persephone goes into 1158 01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:54,239 the underworld. I've got the Yeah, so she is married 1159 01:20:54,279 --> 01:20:57,600 to Katies in the winter time and in the springtime 1160 01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:58,840 she's allowed to come back. 1161 01:21:01,199 --> 01:21:05,960 Speaker 6: And this is from as Cotail pointed out the Gordon 1162 01:21:06,039 --> 01:21:13,680 Wasson study Abby Hoffmann and Gordon Watson says the road 1163 01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:17,560 to eleusis unveiling the secrets of the mysteries. Gordon Watson, 1164 01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:21,560 who was sent by Macy Foundation and the CIA as 1165 01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:25,680 a banker to go and find the Anthia gens to 1166 01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:27,039 produce LSD. 1167 01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,079 Speaker 1: And uh So. 1168 01:21:33,079 --> 01:21:37,399 Speaker 3: This is an interesting cult because they were interested in 1169 01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:41,880 people with money. So as long as you had enough, 1170 01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:49,800 you could for donations and worshiping and keep the cult going. 1171 01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:55,239 So's it's like modern day calls like Rosicrucians. I noticed 1172 01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,720 you have to donate a lot of money soccer. 1173 01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:03,439 Speaker 9: Yeah, you must donate much of your sheet come your 1174 01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,920 income for the sheets to be creating life. 1175 01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:07,840 Speaker 6: Right. 1176 01:22:08,039 --> 01:22:08,399 Speaker 3: This is this. 1177 01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,199 Speaker 6: It's the same with the TV preachers, the seeds of 1178 01:22:11,279 --> 01:22:13,760 faith where you have to give money and then it 1179 01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,359 comes back to you tenfold. That's your seed of That's 1180 01:22:16,399 --> 01:22:18,159 not like Kenneth Copeland. They all say this stuff. 1181 01:22:18,239 --> 01:22:21,399 Speaker 3: Well you'll find this funny. On the day of the 1182 01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:27,640 ritual or the festival, everybody has to bring piglets as 1183 01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:28,359 a sacrifice. 1184 01:22:28,359 --> 01:22:31,760 Speaker 6: So they were like pay piggy's literal pay piggy, Yeah, 1185 01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:36,279 literal pile. Yeah, I know. Wasson was a banker for 1186 01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:39,359 JP Morgan. He was sent there by I think the 1187 01:22:39,399 --> 01:22:42,720 Macy Foundation money and it was at the behest of 1188 01:22:43,039 --> 01:22:50,760 Cia to create and to process LSD from the anteigens. 1189 01:22:53,199 --> 01:22:57,399 Speaker 3: So then you've got your other calls Dionysus, who else. 1190 01:22:58,239 --> 01:22:59,319 Everybody had their own. 1191 01:23:02,039 --> 01:23:05,279 Speaker 6: Well, don't forget I mean Egypt too. Like we were 1192 01:23:05,399 --> 01:23:08,439 watching Penny Dreadful, and you have the idea of the 1193 01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:13,279 Ogdoad and the Uh. There's also one for nine and 1194 01:23:13,359 --> 01:23:15,840 then there's one for ten, the ten cities of Egypt, 1195 01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:18,640 and they all have different deities, and they all have 1196 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:23,520 different like the Enneagram comes from these nine deities of Egypt, right, 1197 01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:28,640 So that's just another version of the same gods passing 1198 01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:30,439 from culture to culture under different names. 1199 01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,560 Speaker 3: Well isis. They call her the Goddess of a thousand names, 1200 01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:38,520 so there's basically just like one goddess goddess and then 1201 01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,760 she has like all these different attributes and names like isis, 1202 01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:48,640 segment isis whatever. What was I gonna say about Greece 1203 01:23:49,159 --> 01:23:49,680 and culture? 1204 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:56,079 Speaker 6: Didn't anything mention Zoroastrians being involved in the human. 1205 01:23:57,399 --> 01:23:59,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, not really. 1206 01:24:00,119 --> 01:24:03,600 Speaker 6: I mean the Mythras cult was an elite more of 1207 01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,840 an elite cult where they would sacrifice the bull to 1208 01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:10,119 baptize you with the bull blood. They were military cults 1209 01:24:10,319 --> 01:24:12,640 and also nothing to do with Christianity. So people will 1210 01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:16,119 find the most superficial connections and say, oh, look, Christianity 1211 01:24:16,199 --> 01:24:18,720 is a myth recul because of baptism. Yeah, but it's 1212 01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,600 totally different ideas of like baptism in a bull's blood 1213 01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,239 versus water. It was totally different. 1214 01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:29,720 Speaker 3: Well, funny you mentioned that because several different cults all 1215 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,800 had the sacrificing of a bull as one of their 1216 01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:38,039 central rituals and so much that they shared temples because 1217 01:24:38,079 --> 01:24:41,439 they had a place to sacrifice a bull. 1218 01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:44,479 Speaker 6: Well, that was all throughout the Old Testament, just because 1219 01:24:45,399 --> 01:24:48,720 a bull or a cow was like a really high 1220 01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,600 priced sacrifice yeah, because you could live from that. Yeah, 1221 01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:56,239 so it was a very you know, wealthy person's sacrifice. 1222 01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:01,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, Mythris Kaybella that their goddess and some other 1223 01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:05,399 ones they you know, share temples because they had the 1224 01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:12,039 proper bowl sacrificing apparatus there. But Mithris. It was so 1225 01:25:12,159 --> 01:25:14,880 creepy that movie we watched called Conspiracy because at the 1226 01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,680 end of it they take you through the modern day 1227 01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,760 ritual of Mithrus and at the end they're like, Mithrus 1228 01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,439 is my crown. But it was kind of like that. 1229 01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:29,560 It was very anti female, anti woman. People who wanted 1230 01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:35,279 to just be like career military or career like assassins 1231 01:25:35,399 --> 01:25:37,319 or spies would be in the culture. 1232 01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:42,600 Speaker 6: Career assassins, career, you know, because they're the military. 1233 01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:42,840 Speaker 2: Guess. 1234 01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:46,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, well, as you probably know, in front of 1235 01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:51,000 Solomon's temple, of course, you have the altar of burnt offering. 1236 01:25:52,319 --> 01:25:58,279 So if we can make this big and the reason 1237 01:25:58,319 --> 01:25:59,760 I'm bringing this up is that, you know, we get 1238 01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:03,279 a lot of atheists, pagans, people who don't really understand 1239 01:26:05,039 --> 01:26:07,640 what the Old Testament religion was all about, which was 1240 01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:13,399 proto Christianity and what Orthodox Christianity teaches in continuity with 1241 01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,119 the Old Testament. So basically you have in Solomon's temple 1242 01:26:16,159 --> 01:26:19,920 this outer portico here where you had these lavers of 1243 01:26:20,159 --> 01:26:24,680 washings for ritual washings. For us, those were proto baptisms. 1244 01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:28,640 They were foreshadowing of what we do in Christianity in 1245 01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:31,439 terms of the entrance ritual of baptism. So before you 1246 01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:34,199 could go to the temple and do your worship, you 1247 01:26:34,359 --> 01:26:36,760 had to be clean. You had to be ritually clean, 1248 01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:40,039 and that was symbolic of being morally clean. So ritual 1249 01:26:40,119 --> 01:26:43,960 and ceremonial cleanliness, even in the Old Testament, were supposed 1250 01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:48,039 to be about moral cleanliness. Hence, circumcise your hearts, as 1251 01:26:48,119 --> 01:26:50,760 Jeremiah says. But you'll notice over here on the right 1252 01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:54,680 is the altar of the burnt offering, where, for example, 1253 01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:58,239 if you brought a bull to be sacrificed, this was 1254 01:26:58,319 --> 01:27:04,920 again a big, hefty, wealthy tithe or donation. It wasn't 1255 01:27:05,199 --> 01:27:08,560 just a thing where they killed the bull. You actually 1256 01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,920 would eat the meal with the priest. And this was 1257 01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:15,960 supposed to be a representative covenantal meal where you are 1258 01:27:16,079 --> 01:27:21,119 partaking of the life giving flesh of the sacrifice. And 1259 01:27:21,239 --> 01:27:23,880 that's why these things point to the work of Christ 1260 01:27:24,039 --> 01:27:28,680 on the cross. Hence why the cross is intended to 1261 01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:32,359 put an end to human sacrifice, because Christ was not 1262 01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:38,199 a human sacrifice in the pagan sense. It wasn't bloodshed 1263 01:27:38,319 --> 01:27:42,119 to placate an angry deity. It was a act of 1264 01:27:42,359 --> 01:27:46,479 love to take on our weakness and our death willingly. 1265 01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:49,760 And that's why Jesus says to Pilot, you would have 1266 01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:52,319 no power over me were it not given to you 1267 01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:54,520 by Heaven. Of course, he is the power of Heaven 1268 01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:58,239 who gave that power willingly because he willed to die. 1269 01:27:59,399 --> 01:28:03,039 So take of that flesh. We are eating the burnt offering. 1270 01:28:03,079 --> 01:28:06,359 We're eating the passover. We were eating the bull offered 1271 01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:10,720 in this typological sense, in the real sense, not to 1272 01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:13,159 an angry god, but to a deity, to put an 1273 01:28:13,319 --> 01:28:17,239 end to death into human sacrifice in the world and 1274 01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:19,479 to all of the pagan religions. But I wanted to 1275 01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,479 say one of the reasons that in the Old Testament 1276 01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:26,680 you had the style of worship was like a preparatory 1277 01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:32,119 pedagogical teaching phase before the fulfillment of this religion in Christ. 1278 01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:35,760 So we don't need the blood of goats and bulls anymore, 1279 01:28:36,199 --> 01:28:39,640 because at that time for ancient and more primitive man. 1280 01:28:40,279 --> 01:28:45,079 These were pedagogical. It was God condescending to human weakness 1281 01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:49,359 to combat the stuff that Jamie's talking about with the 1282 01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:54,199 religions of Sumeria and Babylon and all that. This is 1283 01:28:54,279 --> 01:28:58,920 intended to combat that at that level in a pedagogical way, 1284 01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:04,199 to gradually lead man out of human sacrifice or sacrificing 1285 01:29:04,239 --> 01:29:09,159 animals to the gods, to preparing them for the final 1286 01:29:09,319 --> 01:29:12,800 sacrifice of Christ dying on the cross. That's the whole 1287 01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:15,840 purpose of all this. And it's all if you read 1288 01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:19,039 the Book of Hebrews. Everything inside this temple here, all 1289 01:29:19,079 --> 01:29:21,439 the icons, all the imagery, the arc of the Covenant, 1290 01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:24,960 the showbread, the lamp stands, they're all pointing to the 1291 01:29:25,079 --> 01:29:28,159 realities that come at the First Advent of Christ, in 1292 01:29:28,239 --> 01:29:31,159 which are the Church. So this little temple here is 1293 01:29:31,239 --> 01:29:36,800 a sign pointer, a type of logical indicator of the 1294 01:29:37,039 --> 01:29:37,880 Orthodox Church. 1295 01:29:38,239 --> 01:29:42,479 Speaker 3: That's argue, well, interesting you put it that way, because 1296 01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:49,079 in this book they talk about the mentality of a 1297 01:29:49,199 --> 01:29:55,039 worshiper or somebody who is a votive of a God, 1298 01:29:55,640 --> 01:30:03,520 like let's say Innana in Uruk. Right, the way they 1299 01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:07,199 thought about it was a master slave relationship it wasn't 1300 01:30:07,359 --> 01:30:12,760 a familial father or a you know, loving type relationship. 1301 01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:16,239 It was like these people made us to slave for them, 1302 01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:21,039 and that's what we do. Otherwise we are subject to 1303 01:30:21,199 --> 01:30:25,279 punishments or curses or whatever kinds of things they want 1304 01:30:25,279 --> 01:30:27,279 to come up with to get what they want. Because 1305 01:30:27,319 --> 01:30:32,479 in their writings they say that these the on Andacy 1306 01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:39,319 made the a gigy and the a gigy like revolted 1307 01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:42,119 and made humans. And because nobody wanted to do this 1308 01:30:42,359 --> 01:30:43,800 slave labor look for goal. 1309 01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:46,199 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're never a direct create. We're never a direct 1310 01:30:46,279 --> 01:30:49,560 creation of the creator God. There's always lesser deities that 1311 01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:52,159 created and are like slave owners to man. 1312 01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:55,199 Speaker 3: Right, And so this is how they are coming out 1313 01:30:55,239 --> 01:30:57,560 of the gate in the First Cities is we are 1314 01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:03,439 the slaves to the God of our cult, much like 1315 01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:06,079 Islam believes that they are all. 1316 01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:10,000 Speaker 6: So you'll notice here in this Old Testamate temple, if 1317 01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:15,880 you take a look at this description of the inside 1318 01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:19,640 of the Orthodox Church, you'll notice several parallels. You have 1319 01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:22,760 the altar or the arc and so forth will they 1320 01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:25,079 all And by the way, many of these symbols are 1321 01:31:25,319 --> 01:31:29,359 multi layered, a multi level. So the narthex corresponds to 1322 01:31:30,279 --> 01:31:33,880 the first layer, if you will, of the temple, where 1323 01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:37,479 you had the entrance stuff, the holy water, that kind 1324 01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:41,039 of stuff. And then the nave corresponds to the interior 1325 01:31:41,119 --> 01:31:43,800 of the temple where you had the show bread, which 1326 01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:46,520 is obviously a type of the Eucharist. And then you 1327 01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:50,359 have the altar, which is also the arc, which is 1328 01:31:50,399 --> 01:31:53,720 also the mercy sea, which is also where the priest 1329 01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:58,920 consecrates the Eucharist. And then the doors open. So somebody said, well, 1330 01:31:59,039 --> 01:32:03,279 the temple was Yeah, the veil is rent every time 1331 01:32:03,399 --> 01:32:06,199 we open up the doors and give communion. That's the 1332 01:32:06,239 --> 01:32:09,920 purpose of that. So the Protestant thinks that the veil 1333 01:32:10,039 --> 01:32:13,079 is rent, meaning there's no more sacrifice, there's no more offering, 1334 01:32:13,119 --> 01:32:14,840 there's no more any of that, even though that completely 1335 01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:19,760 contradicts Hebrews thirteen, which says that we eat a eucharistia 1336 01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:24,000 sacrifice bread that Jews the temple can't eat. So Paul 1337 01:32:24,119 --> 01:32:26,640 calls it a temple. He calls it a sacrifice at 1338 01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:29,000 an altar. He says, the Eucharist is at an altar. 1339 01:32:29,399 --> 01:32:31,199 That altar is the altar that you see in the 1340 01:32:31,279 --> 01:32:33,760 Orthodox Church. That's why all the early churches, the first, second, 1341 01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:38,840 third century, when there's excavations, when there's catacomb research that's done. 1342 01:32:39,079 --> 01:32:41,079 You can go visit the catacombs. I've been there. They 1343 01:32:41,119 --> 01:32:46,720 have altars, not Protestant tables for crackers and grape juice altars. 1344 01:32:47,319 --> 01:32:52,880 Speaker 3: Anyway, go ahead, Well you just made me think Solomon's temple. 1345 01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:55,880 So this is where things start to go wrong for 1346 01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:59,600 Israel and the Hebrews. When Solomon builds his temple and 1347 01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:03,279 he he has all of his different wives who are pagans, 1348 01:33:03,319 --> 01:33:04,039 and they also. 1349 01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:08,319 Speaker 6: Will they have been bad way before Solomon, so you 1350 01:33:08,399 --> 01:33:10,439 read the Book of Judges and they're really bad. So 1351 01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:13,520 the same but they fall into the same cycles, right. 1352 01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:15,920 Speaker 3: Because this is what they're mixed up in all of 1353 01:33:16,039 --> 01:33:20,119 these Uh you know here is I don't know if 1354 01:33:20,199 --> 01:33:23,520 Jerusalem is on this map, but they're not very far 1355 01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:26,680 away from each other. Like you think that Jerusalem is 1356 01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:32,680 really far away from Babylon, it's not. So they're constantly 1357 01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:39,720 becoming enslaved by these different cultures Babylon and Persia, Syria. 1358 01:33:41,319 --> 01:33:45,640 Speaker 6: Well, the that's what is listed in Leviticus and Deuteronomy 1359 01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:49,439 as the covenant punishment sanctions. So God makes a covenant 1360 01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:52,960 with the Israelites, and he says, if you disobey the 1361 01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:55,640 law that comes it, that goes into force is the 1362 01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:58,159 penal sanctions of the Covenant, meaning I will hand you 1363 01:33:58,239 --> 01:34:01,680 over to your enemies, you will be trodden down by them, 1364 01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:06,800 et cetera. Uh, if you worship their deities, the land 1365 01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:07,680 will vomit you out. 1366 01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:10,920 Speaker 3: And that's why people talk about the Babylonian Talmud all 1367 01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:16,680 the time, because here, you know, babylon is their two 1368 01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:20,960 main goddess god and goddess was Marduke and Ishtar. And 1369 01:34:21,399 --> 01:34:24,880 Ball was a huge one too and has a lot 1370 01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:27,640 of evidence of human sacrifice to him as well. 1371 01:34:28,199 --> 01:34:30,520 Speaker 6: Oh absolutely, ye, I mean even in scripture, right, I 1372 01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:41,239 think we could deduce that molec they all Ball pure, 1373 01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,600 bail pure. I don't know that that mentioned that mentions nasty, 1374 01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:48,720 degenerate sexual practices, but I'm trying to think of I 1375 01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:51,439 know Moloch is mentioned in zeph Andya, but I'm trying 1376 01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:55,680 to think of other, uh human sacrifice deities that are 1377 01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:58,000 mentioned in the Bible. But here anyway, So for those 1378 01:34:58,039 --> 01:35:00,760 that are curious, if you want to see further explication 1379 01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:05,560 of the pattern of worship and liturgy from the Old Testament, 1380 01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:09,079 temple and synagogue services, which became the pattern of worship 1381 01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:13,000 for the Apostolic churches when they were set up, which 1382 01:35:13,079 --> 01:35:14,840 is not contained in scripture. It's one of the key 1383 01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:18,159 arguments that we argue against Protestantism is that the Bible 1384 01:35:18,199 --> 01:35:20,399 doesn't give you a worship service. So how do you 1385 01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:22,640 know how to worship God? It's obviously something very important 1386 01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:24,640 because people die from it Leviticus eleven when they don't 1387 01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:26,239 do it the right way. How did it well, it 1388 01:35:26,279 --> 01:35:30,680 turns out it was left to us in tradition, and 1389 01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:32,880 that's why when you go to the Orthodox Church you 1390 01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:36,199 will have a set series of things that go on 1391 01:35:37,119 --> 01:35:37,640 in worship. 1392 01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:38,079 Speaker 7: And guess what. 1393 01:35:38,239 --> 01:35:43,000 Speaker 6: God has always in history been liturgically worshiped. There's never 1394 01:35:43,119 --> 01:35:46,000 a time when he's not worshiped by liturgy. In fact, 1395 01:35:46,039 --> 01:35:48,920 it says Abraham built an altar and called upon the 1396 01:35:49,039 --> 01:35:53,319 name of Yahweh. So even when you go back to Abraham, 1397 01:35:53,359 --> 01:35:58,000 even when you go back to Noah, there's Noah sacrifices 1398 01:35:58,239 --> 01:36:01,640 when he comes out of the art. There's always been liturgical, 1399 01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:05,760 ritual worship of the God of the Bible, and yet 1400 01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:10,279 Protestantism has drifted so far away that they don't even 1401 01:36:10,279 --> 01:36:13,279 acknowledge any of this. They just think it's a di y. 1402 01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:16,840 Good luck. Hopefully you come up with something that's reverent maybe, 1403 01:36:17,359 --> 01:36:21,039 or it's smoke machines and pastors with you know, props 1404 01:36:21,079 --> 01:36:21,640 on Instagram. 1405 01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:24,479 Speaker 3: Well yeah, and it's really sad that a lot of 1406 01:36:25,039 --> 01:36:28,520 you know, evangelical churches can fall into the category of 1407 01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:31,680 cults that we're talking about because you have like bad 1408 01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:37,560 theology plus Internet degeneracy, and then you have like Christian 1409 01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:41,760 spanking and stuff like that, like weird ideas going on 1410 01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,680 about how to run a household. I can't find that book. 1411 01:36:45,279 --> 01:36:46,640 Speaker 6: Well, I don't have a problem with that. I think 1412 01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:53,239 it's put you in your person. So Great Litany, right, 1413 01:36:53,399 --> 01:36:57,479 you'll have the entrance besting Great Litany, which is all 1414 01:36:57,560 --> 01:37:00,840 explained in this documentary the Gospel. You've never seen this. 1415 01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:04,319 Speaker 10: It's the sign of the cross. The augar with a 1416 01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:06,760 clear voice proclaims. 1417 01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:12,359 Speaker 11: Bless the key of the Father, and of the song 1418 01:37:13,079 --> 01:37:18,520 and of the all the spear. Now to the agils 1419 01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:20,239 of agents. 1420 01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:26,279 Speaker 6: And if you don't know, the entire Orthodox liturgy is sung. 1421 01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:29,319 And I would recommend, as you saw there the quote 1422 01:37:29,399 --> 01:37:32,359 there's a great little book from many, many centuries ago 1423 01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:37,560 by Saint Germanus of Constantinople and his commentary on the Liturgy. 1424 01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:39,600 You should read that because you'll see, hey, wait a minute, 1425 01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:41,800 we're doing the same stuff that was being done millennia ago. 1426 01:37:43,279 --> 01:37:47,319 Speaker 3: And the thing I like about Orthodoxy is they're normal. 1427 01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:51,439 I mean, once you study all these calls, they spiral 1428 01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:54,960 into insanity. And the patriarch of the call is just 1429 01:37:55,039 --> 01:37:58,079 a butt toucher and all your women belong to him, 1430 01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:02,279 and it's all about money or spying. Remember they found 1431 01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:05,920 spy stuff in O Show's house, and they also found 1432 01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:08,640 it in Ken Copeland's house, like set up to do 1433 01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:10,880 stings and black. 1434 01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,119 Speaker 6: Male, black male, Yeah, getting dirt. 1435 01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:16,359 Speaker 3: So a lot of these cult leaders and gurus actually 1436 01:38:17,199 --> 01:38:19,159 are intelligence agents. 1437 01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:23,279 Speaker 6: Yes, And this is the very obscure, rare look that 1438 01:38:23,399 --> 01:38:28,039 somebody sent me a photocopy of is Father Francis the Vornet. 1439 01:38:28,119 --> 01:38:29,520 You may know of him as one of the most 1440 01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:33,000 famous Uniates. He's very useful to us as Orthodox because 1441 01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:37,119 he was one of the key figures, it seems, helping 1442 01:38:37,239 --> 01:38:40,199 to convince the Vatican to admit so many of our 1443 01:38:40,239 --> 01:38:44,560 positions as Orthodox. So he indirectly played a very good 1444 01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:48,680 role in helping Orthodox apologetics as a Uniate priest, especially 1445 01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:51,600 if you read the Phocian Schism. But he also has 1446 01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:54,479 this lesser known book which makes me suspect that he 1447 01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:57,279 might have himself been a spy or and it's all 1448 01:38:57,399 --> 01:39:00,359 just operative. You don't usually get priests writing about the 1449 01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:07,079 history of intelligence agencies unless they have some presumably connected 1450 01:39:07,199 --> 01:39:11,039 role like that. But this is an interesting text and 1451 01:39:11,119 --> 01:39:13,199 it goes very well with a lot of what Jamie's 1452 01:39:13,199 --> 01:39:16,600 talking about. It's super rare. You can almost hardly never 1453 01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:20,760 find the book, although I did get a photocopy version 1454 01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:24,800 of I can find a PDF somewhere. But anyway, so 1455 01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:26,840 I just wanted to play a little bit more of 1456 01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:31,279 this because I think one thing that you'll notice if 1457 01:39:31,319 --> 01:39:34,520 you are not familiar with the pattern and the norms 1458 01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:38,119 of Orthodox worship that I can say contrasts even with 1459 01:39:38,199 --> 01:39:40,279 the Latin Mass, which I went through for many years, 1460 01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:43,800 but especially for the majority of Protestantism, is how trinitarian 1461 01:39:44,359 --> 01:39:51,000 the Orthodox services. The Orthodox service is basically permeated with triadic, 1462 01:39:51,119 --> 01:39:55,359 trinitarian and triplicities all the time, and I think in 1463 01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:59,479 Protestant worship it's almost always unless you're in a charismatic church, 1464 01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:02,720 all they talk about the Holy Spirit and the charismatic gifts, 1465 01:40:03,279 --> 01:40:05,680 or if you're in most Protestant churches, it's Jesus is 1466 01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:08,000 Jesus to the neglect of the Father and the Spirit. 1467 01:40:09,079 --> 01:40:14,239 And so there's this trinitarian ethos that is itself, I 1468 01:40:14,319 --> 01:40:17,239 think one of the key indicators that tells you that 1469 01:40:17,359 --> 01:40:21,800 this is the true church, because you get the Holy, 1470 01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:24,960 Holy Holy which is triatic right, not. 1471 01:40:25,079 --> 01:40:25,439 Speaker 1: For real. 1472 01:40:29,279 --> 01:40:37,600 Speaker 10: Reasonable literally thanksgiving because they are the recollection of many benefactions. 1473 01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:42,399 They show us the culmination of divine providence, and in 1474 01:40:42,479 --> 01:40:45,199 every way they prepare us to give thanks to God. 1475 01:40:46,239 --> 01:40:54,960 Speaker 6: Let us just to has a good voice. Anyway, guys, 1476 01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:58,159 if you would like to see and contrast, you know, 1477 01:40:58,319 --> 01:41:00,640 Orthodox worship with all that, you can watch the documentary 1478 01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:03,640 right there which explains step by step the liturgy. Also, 1479 01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:06,720 one thing we didn't really talk about today, but you 1480 01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:08,880 could talk about we hinted at it with the zigarots 1481 01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:11,439 and what the Solomon's temple is. There's also a lot 1482 01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:15,520 of interesting research by these kinds of ancient religion scholars. 1483 01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:21,079 Who's the one that's the most famous Egyptologist budge E. 1484 01:41:21,159 --> 01:41:24,079 Wallis Budge. I have E. Wallis Budge's book on ancient 1485 01:41:24,319 --> 01:41:28,479 temples and their structure and their symbolism. So you can find, 1486 01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:37,000 for example, parallels between say ancient Egyptian temples or ancient 1487 01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:43,840 Babylonian temples, Persian temples, and you'll find some similarities in 1488 01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:46,800 parallels with the Jewish temple. What you get, what you 1489 01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:51,119 then get is these secular scholars or these zeitgeistpros who 1490 01:41:51,159 --> 01:41:56,079 then say, oh, look, dude, like the Biblical religion is 1491 01:41:56,239 --> 01:42:01,000 just like copied from like ancient Babylonian Egyptian temples, and 1492 01:42:01,119 --> 01:42:04,760 it's it's very zeitgeists low tier stuff. Because first of all, 1493 01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:07,640 if God, there's two different ways to interpret that one 1494 01:42:08,159 --> 01:42:12,520 God might be utilizing in that Old Testament era imagery 1495 01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:16,479 and symbols that were were well known to those cultures. 1496 01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:19,720 So maybe if there's a angel that looks like a 1497 01:42:20,039 --> 01:42:22,840 you know, griffin in another religion or something that wouldn't 1498 01:42:23,079 --> 01:42:25,840 that's it doesn't follow from that that, oh, they're all 1499 01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:28,960 the same religion. Brew It would follow from that that 1500 01:42:29,199 --> 01:42:34,960 there's similar imagery that's being used. Right, So for example, 1501 01:42:35,039 --> 01:42:38,800 the unk right in Egypt, the unk became the cross, 1502 01:42:40,359 --> 01:42:44,199 Oh dude, it's like Crestiaated just uses that's it's a silly, 1503 01:42:44,359 --> 01:42:45,199 stupid nonsck. 1504 01:42:45,399 --> 01:42:49,760 Speaker 3: Actually, interestingly enough, this book on human Sacrifice talks about 1505 01:42:50,079 --> 01:42:56,239 that just because there are elements of Christ's story in different. 1506 01:42:56,119 --> 01:42:59,279 Speaker 6: Culture, it doesn't make zeitgeist true, right. 1507 01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:03,119 Speaker 3: And actually the way that he put it it might 1508 01:43:03,239 --> 01:43:08,560 even lend more credence to the story less. Someone's saying 1509 01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:11,399 that someone from our church, so we never go to church. Okay, 1510 01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:15,800 we go to church when we're here in Florida. Number one, 1511 01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:17,319 we travel all the time. 1512 01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:18,640 Speaker 6: He said that that's not even true. 1513 01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:19,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1514 01:43:19,119 --> 01:43:20,560 Speaker 6: We were just at church number two. 1515 01:43:21,359 --> 01:43:23,199 Speaker 3: We split our time between tennessee. 1516 01:43:23,399 --> 01:43:26,119 Speaker 6: This is that orientals come and that they lie and 1517 01:43:26,359 --> 01:43:28,720 they repeat this stuff. So wh said that, I don't know. 1518 01:43:29,079 --> 01:43:31,600 Speaker 3: Just if you go to Saint Nicholas and you're like, Jane, 1519 01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:34,800 Jamie never go to church. It's like, we come when 1520 01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:37,800 we are in Florida, and then when we're not, we 1521 01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:39,319 can't obviously go to church. 1522 01:43:39,399 --> 01:43:45,520 Speaker 6: Did they say it in yeah, this did you misread it? 1523 01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:52,119 Speaker 3: No? It was up there. But I'm like, so if 1524 01:43:52,159 --> 01:43:53,319 you're going to our church and. 1525 01:43:53,359 --> 01:43:56,640 Speaker 6: You're like, so no, he said, someone said, Jay doesn't attend. 1526 01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:59,239 Speaker 3: Upon liturgy, and then it said someone at Saint Nicholas said, 1527 01:43:59,239 --> 01:44:02,279 they don't come. That's not true because we don't are 1528 01:44:02,319 --> 01:44:07,319 not always here in the state, I know, so mind 1529 01:44:07,359 --> 01:44:07,960 your own business. 1530 01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:18,399 Speaker 6: No, somebody at Nick's live So they're talking about Fuintes's 1531 01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:22,239 live streams and the Orientals and the Roman Catholic tradcats 1532 01:44:22,279 --> 01:44:24,720 that lie that we don't attend a church. That's like 1533 01:44:25,319 --> 01:44:27,279 five year old rumors that they pass around. 1534 01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:31,199 Speaker 3: I go to choir practice, Okay, I go to church. 1535 01:44:32,159 --> 01:44:34,399 Speaker 6: This is just tradcats that come and say bullshit in 1536 01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:34,800 the chat? 1537 01:44:35,079 --> 01:44:35,920 Speaker 3: Is father deacon hear? 1538 01:44:36,319 --> 01:44:38,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's right there, father deacon, and nyas have you 1539 01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:41,720 ever been to our church? Do we go to a church? 1540 01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:45,399 Go ahead? 1541 01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:50,680 Speaker 3: Do you want to where were we ancient Greece. H 1542 01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:54,399 we're kind of going in a linear timeline now from 1543 01:44:56,319 --> 01:44:59,760 ancient history to near ancient history with Greece and Rome 1544 01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:07,159 still not a lot of respect for human life. If 1545 01:45:07,279 --> 01:45:09,760 a Roman father didn't like the way his baby looked, 1546 01:45:10,279 --> 01:45:12,680 he could just you know, set it outside the wall 1547 01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:14,920 of the city. If it was a girl and he 1548 01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:19,920 didn't want it or whatever, he had the total authority 1549 01:45:20,079 --> 01:45:22,800 to say, we allow this child in our house or not. 1550 01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:25,560 And that's kind of where orphanages came from, because the 1551 01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:28,039 Christians at that time would go around the city picking 1552 01:45:28,119 --> 01:45:34,840 up abandoned babies that the Roman fathers rejected. So you've 1553 01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:39,119 got different cults of Rome. You've got the kybol worshippers, 1554 01:45:39,159 --> 01:45:42,439 the galley we were talking about, the self mutilators. You've 1555 01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:47,279 got your vestal virgins who were basically kidnapped noble, not kidnapped, 1556 01:45:47,279 --> 01:45:49,600 but they were some in noble girls who had to 1557 01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:52,800 go enter the temple at seven years old or ten 1558 01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:55,000 years old and live there for thirty years and tend 1559 01:45:55,239 --> 01:46:01,359 the sacred fire of Rome. You've got your cults of Saturn, Jupiter. 1560 01:46:02,399 --> 01:46:07,760 All of these gods require blood at certain times. 1561 01:46:08,279 --> 01:46:10,560 Speaker 6: We're having a conference at my church, but I don't 1562 01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:15,399 know attend church. By the way, our church has a channel, 1563 01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:18,279 you idiots, so they could actually just go and watch 1564 01:46:18,399 --> 01:46:21,000 our live streams and you can actually see me and 1565 01:46:21,119 --> 01:46:24,960 Jamie in the audience. Oh look at that. Look at that? 1566 01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:27,239 Who's that in the background? You see me? I always 1567 01:46:27,279 --> 01:46:30,399 stand over there, by the way, who is that behind 1568 01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:35,000 the woman in the blue dress? Oh me, this is 1569 01:46:35,039 --> 01:46:35,680 two weeks ago. 1570 01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:40,600 Speaker 3: And then boom roasted. We always go to church. 1571 01:46:43,039 --> 01:46:45,439 Speaker 6: Let's see if it shows the choir, because you'll see Jamie. 1572 01:46:45,479 --> 01:46:53,960 If you see the choir, I'm back through somewhere. This 1573 01:46:54,199 --> 01:46:58,960 is by the way, you guys are signing good. Well Major, 1574 01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:07,840 I'm proving that we don't go to church by showing 1575 01:47:08,079 --> 01:47:12,159 our churches live streams. Where you see there's Constantine right there. 1576 01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:21,239 Uh yeah, you can eventually see us kiss the cross 1577 01:47:21,279 --> 01:47:29,680 by the way at the end of the service. All right, 1578 01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:31,880 So here's one and then you can come over here. 1579 01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:36,520 Speaker 3: Now they're gonna start watching our church live stream and 1580 01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:37,560 looking for us every time. 1581 01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:39,600 Speaker 6: I don't care. Good they can come to church. 1582 01:47:42,319 --> 01:47:51,640 Speaker 3: Read Let's see, these are good streams. 1583 01:47:53,119 --> 01:47:54,359 Speaker 6: Putting out high quality stuff. 1584 01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:59,920 Speaker 3: The camera is nice. Since we're talking about Saint nic 1585 01:48:00,359 --> 01:48:02,159 we're having a conference there. 1586 01:48:02,399 --> 01:48:04,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, to the church that I never go to and 1587 01:48:04,319 --> 01:48:06,520 I never attend. We're having a conference right here. 1588 01:48:12,239 --> 01:48:17,199 Speaker 12: What is the relationship between reason and revelation, between philosophy 1589 01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:22,680 and faith? For the Orthodox Church, the answer is clear. 1590 01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:26,960 Christianity was not born in the lecture halls of Greek philosophers, 1591 01:48:27,439 --> 01:48:30,000 but in the encounter with the Living God. Yet the 1592 01:48:30,079 --> 01:48:33,520 church did not ignore philosophy. She baptized it, using the 1593 01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:37,000 language of reason to proclaim truths that reason alone could 1594 01:48:37,119 --> 01:48:41,239 never reach. So what is the Orthodox view of philosophy? 1595 01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:44,560 What role does human reason play in the life of faith? 1596 01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:48,880 Does orthodoxy believe in natural theology? And what is the 1597 01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:54,000 difference between knowledge about God and knowing Him? Join us 1598 01:48:54,039 --> 01:48:59,319 for an unforgettable conference exploring these timeless questions and encounter 1599 01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:04,840 the answer not just in words, but in worship, in truth, 1600 01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:09,199 in the experience of the Holy Trinity. Come and discover 1601 01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:13,079 the true faith, the faith that established the universe. 1602 01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:27,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, so there's me at the conference of the church 1603 01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:30,680 I don't attend and never go to. Somebody said, where 1604 01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:32,479 was dire? Okay, you didn't see me here, and I'll 1605 01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:43,039 show you where I'm at. This world has not God. 1606 01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:47,880 Where was the first one? Two weeks ago? This right, 1607 01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:58,119 it's the church. I think it was after constantly un 1608 01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:08,399 I know this is kind of stupid, but it's like 1609 01:50:08,479 --> 01:50:11,399 you have to do this. There's Jamie, look at that 1610 01:50:12,159 --> 01:50:15,359 we don't go to church. There's Jamie at the church 1611 01:50:15,439 --> 01:50:19,880 that we don't go to. I think I was last 1612 01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:24,239 this day. That's why you don't see me on there. Oh, 1613 01:50:24,279 --> 01:50:30,920 look at that. There's me. Look there's me at the 1614 01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:36,079 church I don't go to can everybody see now roasted? 1615 01:50:37,640 --> 01:50:41,840 But see, actually this is good because it's like this 1616 01:50:42,079 --> 01:50:44,039 is all Roman Catholics have at this point is to 1617 01:50:44,199 --> 01:50:47,199 just make up and lie about Like this was the 1618 01:50:47,359 --> 01:50:49,319 lie that they were saying about me in twenty eighteen 1619 01:50:49,399 --> 01:50:51,520 and twenty eighteen they were like, he doesn't go to church, 1620 01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:55,319 he doesn't even attend to any church. So they're actually 1621 01:50:55,399 --> 01:50:58,920 just repeating rumors from like seven years ago. It's like, 1622 01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:02,319 I mean, we're doing a freaking conference right here at 1623 01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:05,640 this church. How would this even happen if I just 1624 01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:08,520 never even went? But I want to remind you guys 1625 01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:10,199 that it won't let me link that, so I'm gonna 1626 01:51:10,239 --> 01:51:12,159 have to put it in the show description. So the 1627 01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:17,199 long link to our conference if you would like to attend. 1628 01:51:18,279 --> 01:51:21,159 This is just two weeks ago. We were here at 1629 01:51:21,159 --> 01:51:24,920 the feast day too, which that would be this one. 1630 01:51:25,119 --> 01:51:25,920 Is this the feast day? 1631 01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:34,319 Speaker 3: We weren't Saturday morning. That it's old, but it's still 1632 01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:36,199 in very good shape and serviceable. 1633 01:51:36,319 --> 01:51:41,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, the bedroom set a full sized bed and viewers. 1634 01:51:41,039 --> 01:51:45,600 Speaker 6: And ena here's the feast day the other day three 1635 01:51:46,279 --> 01:51:47,239 two viewers. 1636 01:51:49,319 --> 01:51:50,359 Speaker 13: But shows listless. 1637 01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:50,960 Speaker 7: Look at that. 1638 01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:57,840 Speaker 13: Release Listen with Chris Speth and gratitude for the words 1639 01:51:58,319 --> 01:52:01,800 all the thanksgiving, pray slow to a good board and 1640 01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:04,079 sla good borders, slas good boy. 1641 01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:11,720 Speaker 6: You heard what you want to hear you guys singing construction? 1642 01:52:12,359 --> 01:52:16,319 Speaker 2: Uh and mother Elizabeth? 1643 01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:20,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, dog you and I to be gift? 1644 01:52:22,039 --> 01:52:25,960 Speaker 6: But did they cut it out? That's not a gift 1645 01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:39,960 sign that cut you off. Look, there's Jamie. Can you 1646 01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:43,239 see Jamie in the background of the church that she 1647 01:52:43,319 --> 01:52:46,239 doesn't There's Jamie at the church that she doesn't go to. 1648 01:52:51,720 --> 01:53:18,479 Speaker 11: So angel. 1649 01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:20,640 Speaker 1: A joy. 1650 01:53:20,840 --> 01:53:40,279 Speaker 6: So there you go. So that's at finding me here. 1651 01:53:40,359 --> 01:53:42,039 I think I was the last to kiss the cross 1652 01:53:42,199 --> 01:53:44,279 that day. I was like the last of the line. 1653 01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:51,680 There's a well, I won't sell all these people's names 1654 01:53:51,680 --> 01:53:56,960 because anyway, if you wanna come visit and you can 1655 01:53:57,000 --> 01:53:59,039 come visit church and see that I'm not there on 1656 01:53:59,159 --> 01:54:03,520 Sunday and then we'll see I mean, Isaac six dollars 1657 01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:05,840 j you can win this debate with Jamie. Keep your 1658 01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:07,920 head up. She's a woman. Just kidding much love from 1659 01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:10,199 South Carolina. I just beat you in a he lost. 1660 01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:16,920 We're gonna have a nineteen fifties style discipline in this 1661 01:54:17,039 --> 01:54:20,039 household tuxedo, we did the tuxedo two dollars, I got 1662 01:54:20,119 --> 01:54:23,199 you DC, We're working ten dollars. This is for Jamie's 1663 01:54:23,199 --> 01:54:23,800 a swear jar. 1664 01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:24,760 Speaker 2: Oh what did I say? 1665 01:54:25,439 --> 01:54:29,640 Speaker 6: You said the bad unallowed words on YouTube? JB Pelta 1666 01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:32,279 five dollars. Even if T R O N S as 1667 01:54:32,319 --> 01:54:35,760 opposed to tranz is a trigger word, I don't, I do, 1668 01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:38,600 can't keep up. It was The reason I know that 1669 01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:43,760 is because that's originally what got this channel demonetized. So 1670 01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:46,319 when I got demonetized in twenty eighteen or nineteen, it 1671 01:54:46,479 --> 01:54:49,159 was that word, uh and because they tell you what 1672 01:54:49,279 --> 01:54:52,279 it is, right, and then it took, you know, five 1673 01:54:52,399 --> 01:54:55,600 years to get remonetized, So we lost basically hundreds of 1674 01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:58,600 thousands of dollars from the T word. That's why I 1675 01:54:58,680 --> 01:55:01,680 get sensitive about it. Not that I inherently have a 1676 01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:04,960 problem with the word. It's just that the algorithm has 1677 01:55:05,079 --> 01:55:08,079 lightened up. But the way it works now is, yeah, 1678 01:55:08,159 --> 01:55:12,319 you can say more stuff, it'll just demonetize and deboost 1679 01:55:12,399 --> 01:55:15,680 it in the algorithm when you say the trigger words 1680 01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:20,359 H Browsey five dollars, Nah, Jamie stop speaking regular English. 1681 01:55:20,399 --> 01:55:22,079 We need you to speak in Hindu it. 1682 01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:23,680 Speaker 7: Speaking to Hindui. 1683 01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:31,760 Speaker 6: Mocoish, I'm there, you go, tuxedo mass two dollars. Thuggie 1684 01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:35,319 sounds like an urban diaper brand. That's a good one. 1685 01:55:35,359 --> 01:55:41,520 That was a singer. Not you're not user Telken. I'm 1686 01:55:41,560 --> 01:55:45,880 a top level transablest lesbian Muslim debater. I have yet 1687 01:55:46,119 --> 01:55:49,520 to concede that the Indian accent is top tier. Well, 1688 01:55:49,880 --> 01:55:52,760 we have to perhaps concede to you. We have to 1689 01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:54,960 concede to you since you are higher in the totem 1690 01:55:55,000 --> 01:56:02,199 pole of oppression as a trans lesbian Muslim debater. A Panini. Wait, 1691 01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:05,319 it's all about sex colds. It always has been. Exactly 1692 01:56:05,479 --> 01:56:09,079 a Panini hand over the root chakra now, exactly, yes, 1693 01:56:09,439 --> 01:56:13,520 you chakra. Now, that's another thing. 1694 01:56:13,479 --> 01:56:17,039 Speaker 3: About the Hindu and the Buddhists and the Orthodox. We 1695 01:56:17,159 --> 01:56:21,479 don't really have that view of chakras and energy centers 1696 01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:26,239 that can be like hijacked. Art is like the news 1697 01:56:26,479 --> 01:56:28,239 and the mind body space. 1698 01:56:28,319 --> 01:56:31,199 Speaker 6: Bro, you just hacked into my root chakra. Could you 1699 01:56:31,279 --> 01:56:35,239 get out of there? Get you get out of my 1700 01:56:35,359 --> 01:56:35,880 root chakra? 1701 01:56:36,239 --> 01:56:36,439 Speaker 2: Now? 1702 01:56:36,920 --> 01:56:39,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, So we talk about that in. 1703 01:56:39,439 --> 01:56:42,600 Speaker 6: The book with Sister anstesia, Jamie, you should try to 1704 01:56:42,640 --> 01:56:44,479 get sister in a station on your channel. Forty dollars 1705 01:56:44,520 --> 01:56:48,319 from Alexander Kane would be come true almost It would 1706 01:56:48,319 --> 01:56:51,119 be an interesting show. What do you mean the book 1707 01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:55,520 We don't pray to Mary? We asked for Mary's intercession, 1708 01:56:55,720 --> 01:57:03,720 You Protestant goobers up? Jackomatic two dollars hit the gritty, Yes, 1709 01:57:04,119 --> 01:57:06,159 I don't know what I mean, tra tix ten dollars. 1710 01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:10,399 Crazy how lovers of sexual liberation. Liberation use examples from 1711 01:57:10,439 --> 01:57:14,920 antiquity of unnatural relations for their justifications, such as an 1712 01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:18,479 appeal to ancient traditions. But this is actually evidence for 1713 01:57:18,720 --> 01:57:21,079 Romans one eighteen to thirty two in the Universality of 1714 01:57:21,159 --> 01:57:25,600 the Fall exactly. And by the way, Romans one is 1715 01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:28,800 parallel to the chapters in the Book of Wisdom, So 1716 01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:31,680 Paul is drawing from the passages in the Book of 1717 01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:36,479 Wisdom that describe almost the exact same thing, which Protestants 1718 01:57:36,479 --> 01:57:38,600 should keep that in mind. Jack wanders five dollars. Have 1719 01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:43,159 you seen the debate with FDA and heyeshoots the mushroom 1720 01:57:43,359 --> 01:57:45,800 gut Jesus is a mushroom guy. Yes, I was watching 1721 01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:48,760 it live. It was funny. It was so low tier 1722 01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:54,199 that it's almost like because the thing, as FD noted, 1723 01:57:54,319 --> 01:57:59,279 FDA noted, when you debate with like Shroom dtm LSD 1724 01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:03,279 psyclone bros. You can't keep them on one topic. They 1725 01:58:03,439 --> 01:58:06,800 go everywhere because their mind is like all over the place. 1726 01:58:06,920 --> 01:58:11,079 It's not coherent thinking, and so you can't really debate 1727 01:58:11,159 --> 01:58:14,920 them because they won't stay on any topic. It goes everywhere. 1728 01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:18,079 And that's exactly what happened. Rachel Wilson became a member 1729 01:58:18,119 --> 01:58:21,159 What's Up. Here's Johnny became a member What's Up? Bird 1730 01:58:21,359 --> 01:58:24,319 Created by Jesus. Remember that the Dire Family. Remember to 1731 01:58:24,399 --> 01:58:28,039 keep the Dire Family in our prayers. NICKI thinky five dollars. 1732 01:58:28,039 --> 01:58:31,079 Is there any connection between amaru the Incan serpentine and 1733 01:58:31,159 --> 01:58:34,800 the etymology of the Americas? I've never heard that. I 1734 01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:37,279 don't know where ameera America. 1735 01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:42,039 Speaker 3: Some people think that's the real reason we call it 1736 01:58:42,119 --> 01:58:45,239 America and not America, Govis Fucci, So it could be. 1737 01:58:46,119 --> 01:58:49,680 Speaker 6: I haven't heard that. Silent wins the super Chats today 1738 01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:52,880 with two hundred dollars, and I'm gonna be splitting these 1739 01:58:52,920 --> 01:58:54,319 with Jamie, so you're helping Jamie out. 1740 01:58:54,359 --> 01:58:55,760 Speaker 3: He didn't say anything, he's just silent. 1741 01:58:55,880 --> 01:59:03,720 Speaker 6: Well, his name is his message. Thanks, thank you so much, 1742 01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:06,680 biggest super chat apeniny. The stream needs a part two. 1743 01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:10,279 There's always you can never do enough, you know, ancient 1744 01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:15,359 religious and I wanted to do also ancient pagan temple 1745 01:59:15,439 --> 01:59:21,399 symbology and contrasting that actually with the way Solomon's temple 1746 01:59:21,520 --> 01:59:24,479 was set up and the theology at that time, because 1747 01:59:24,520 --> 01:59:31,039 it's such a common atheist pagan zeitguide mushroom bro type 1748 01:59:31,039 --> 01:59:35,199 of argument and neo pagan wotan odin type argument that 1749 01:59:35,359 --> 01:59:39,359 oh bro, it's all the same. You always was a 1750 01:59:39,560 --> 01:59:44,560 promoted version of bail bro And it's like canaanite wife deity. 1751 01:59:44,760 --> 01:59:47,000 Speaker 3: Remember that this is yeah, that's what I was talking about, 1752 01:59:47,039 --> 01:59:49,000 how the gods got mushed together, and that's why they 1753 01:59:49,079 --> 01:59:50,720 think you always had a wife named Astra. 1754 01:59:51,199 --> 01:59:53,119 Speaker 6: Right now. Most of the time, the reason people think 1755 01:59:53,199 --> 01:59:57,960 this is the dumbest word concept fallacy, which is because alohem, 1756 01:59:58,600 --> 02:00:02,159 which is a term like it's a generic term, like 1757 02:00:02,279 --> 02:00:05,399 the word god or God's right. These are generic terms. 1758 02:00:05,520 --> 02:00:11,560 They're flaccid designators that dumb dumbs think signify the same reference. 1759 02:00:11,800 --> 02:00:15,920 So they think that if you said eloheim the divine 1760 02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:20,199 beings or the divine being that necessitates the same in 1761 02:00:20,279 --> 02:00:21,279 all the different religions. 1762 02:00:21,640 --> 02:00:24,000 Speaker 3: And ball means Lord, so that's another order. 1763 02:00:24,119 --> 02:00:26,439 Speaker 6: Take the word yes, take the yeah exactly. Or the 1764 02:00:26,479 --> 02:00:30,920 word Allah, right, that's the Arabic word for God. Well, 1765 02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:34,720 you might mean the Allah of the Quran, who's a 1766 02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:37,840 different deity from the Allah of the Bible. It's just 1767 02:00:37,920 --> 02:00:40,520 the word God. So people don't know how grammar works, 1768 02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:43,560 and heretics are always caught up and confused by just 1769 02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:47,640 freaking grammar. Jack wonders five dollars. Have you looked at 1770 02:00:48,079 --> 02:00:50,760 the rise of Sra. Yes, we've covered s Ray quite 1771 02:00:50,760 --> 02:00:50,960 a bit. 1772 02:00:51,039 --> 02:00:53,119 Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, I'm going to do a book about that 1773 02:00:53,359 --> 02:00:56,920 my members in two more episodes. I've got screwtape letters, 1774 02:00:57,000 --> 02:01:00,560 and then I'm going to do a book that Melissa 1775 02:01:00,600 --> 02:01:05,039 sent me from a secular therapist who kept on getting 1776 02:01:05,840 --> 02:01:10,640 SRA patience so much so that he had to write 1777 02:01:10,640 --> 02:01:12,760 a book about it because he didn't believe in it 1778 02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:13,800 at first, and now he does. 1779 02:01:15,760 --> 02:01:19,039 Speaker 6: If you have the E. Wallace Budge book on I 1780 02:01:19,079 --> 02:01:22,000 think man is temple or temples or something like. I 1781 02:01:22,199 --> 02:01:24,640 cited this I think in one of my essays in 1782 02:01:24,760 --> 02:01:29,159 esto turcoli with three you will you will notice there 1783 02:01:29,159 --> 02:01:31,199 are interesting like, for example, I think some of the 1784 02:01:31,279 --> 02:01:34,840 Egyptian temples, they had a conception of them being like 1785 02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:38,199 a version above a man, like it's a miniature, it's 1786 02:01:38,239 --> 02:01:42,279 a microcosm of the macrocosm. Right. So it's the same 1787 02:01:42,319 --> 02:01:44,840 thing going on with Solomon's temple, where it does point 1788 02:01:44,960 --> 02:01:48,119 to the body of Christ. Jesus says, destroy this temple, 1789 02:01:48,159 --> 02:01:49,920 and in three days I will raise it up, speaking 1790 02:01:50,000 --> 02:01:52,359 of his body, so his body is also a fulfillment 1791 02:01:52,479 --> 02:01:55,760 of the actual temple. The Egyptians had a similar idea 1792 02:01:55,880 --> 02:01:59,159 that the body was a microcosm of the macrocosm. But 1793 02:01:59,239 --> 02:02:02,039 that's also a plato. So what happens is that people 1794 02:02:02,119 --> 02:02:04,800 see these types of similarities and then they jump to 1795 02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:08,039 the non sequitor conclusion that, oh, they're all the same. 1796 02:02:08,159 --> 02:02:11,560 You see, well, just because there's similarities, it's a fallacy. 1797 02:02:11,600 --> 02:02:14,680 It doesn't follow that they're all the same, because if 1798 02:02:14,720 --> 02:02:18,119 that was the case, everything has some similar relation to 1799 02:02:18,199 --> 02:02:20,520 some other thing, so all things would be the same, 1800 02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:23,640 which would be ridiculous, right, But that's what that shows 1801 02:02:23,680 --> 02:02:26,960 you that it's it's a It just depends, right, just 1802 02:02:27,079 --> 02:02:31,359 because there's similarity, it does not entail or necessitate the 1803 02:02:31,479 --> 02:02:34,880 same origin or the same religion or the same beliefs. 1804 02:02:35,039 --> 02:02:36,880 I mean, you can find all kinds of things that 1805 02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:40,920 are common, but that doesn't mean they're the same. It's 1806 02:02:40,960 --> 02:02:44,479 just it's a really stupid, kind of low tier philosophical mistake. 1807 02:02:44,720 --> 02:02:47,239 Speaker 3: If you want to do a show on temples and architecture, 1808 02:02:47,319 --> 02:02:50,479 we should get that book Temple of Man by Schwalow Delubt. 1809 02:02:50,640 --> 02:02:52,159 Speaker 6: No, that's the that's the one I'm thinking of. I 1810 02:02:52,279 --> 02:02:54,319 wasn't thinking of Budge, It's it's Schwallow deluver It. So 1811 02:02:54,399 --> 02:02:56,720 I have his Temple of ManBook. Oh okay, so I 1812 02:02:56,840 --> 02:02:58,600 cited it in esoteric color with three That. 1813 02:02:58,600 --> 02:03:05,479 Speaker 3: Would be a good show to do. Look at that apophae, 1814 02:03:05,560 --> 02:03:06,039 that's crazy. 1815 02:03:07,920 --> 02:03:10,119 Speaker 6: Yeah, I have this book and it's kind of making 1816 02:03:10,159 --> 02:03:15,119 this point of the microcosm microcosm. So, but we don't 1817 02:03:15,239 --> 02:03:19,319 conclude from this that because Egyptians had this idea that 1818 02:03:19,600 --> 02:03:23,159 every religion that has a microcosm macrocosm is the same. 1819 02:03:23,279 --> 02:03:26,640 It's a silly, silly conclusion because played Ill taught the 1820 02:03:26,680 --> 02:03:31,159 same thing, and the Timaeus the universe is a giant 1821 02:03:31,279 --> 02:03:34,640 man Adam Cadman exactly. 1822 02:03:37,119 --> 02:03:41,720 Speaker 3: So were we Greek cults? What Greek and Roman? Greco 1823 02:03:41,840 --> 02:03:45,680 Roman Roman, Well, that's just kind of where we left 1824 02:03:45,720 --> 02:03:49,000 off on the timeline of ancient Mesopotamia. No, we're in 1825 02:03:49,159 --> 02:03:53,880 like Greece and Rome Elisinian. You got Dionysus. That's where 1826 02:03:53,880 --> 02:04:00,600 you get the Bacchus mysteries, total depravity and like hedonistic 1827 02:04:00,920 --> 02:04:06,239 type underground cults because well, especially Dionysius like all of 1828 02:04:06,279 --> 02:04:10,039 their stuff and Bacchus there was like have you ever 1829 02:04:10,079 --> 02:04:11,560 heard the Bacca Conspiracy? 1830 02:04:12,319 --> 02:04:12,680 Speaker 6: I don't know. 1831 02:04:13,159 --> 02:04:15,880 Speaker 3: Oh, anyways, that's too long to talk about, but yeah, 1832 02:04:15,960 --> 02:04:17,600 they were up to step Oh you. 1833 02:04:17,600 --> 02:04:19,159 Speaker 6: Got a bunch of books. Come back for a part too. 1834 02:04:19,279 --> 02:04:23,600 Speaker 3: Okay, So this is where all your Western mysticism comes from, 1835 02:04:23,840 --> 02:04:26,039 like a Greco Roman. And then you have a switched 1836 02:04:26,800 --> 02:04:31,640 from you know, basically a pagan world to the conversion 1837 02:04:31,920 --> 02:04:36,119 of Christianity with the Byzantine Empire. And then all of 1838 02:04:36,199 --> 02:04:42,319 these cults have to go underground. Right I'm listening to. 1839 02:04:44,159 --> 02:04:46,680 Speaker 6: People are asked for your channel, I'm putting your channel 1840 02:04:46,680 --> 02:04:47,079 in the chat. 1841 02:04:49,039 --> 02:04:50,800 Speaker 3: So all these cults have to go underground, and this 1842 02:04:50,920 --> 02:04:54,960 is where you get freemasonry. Popping up. You've got the Knights, Templar, 1843 02:04:55,119 --> 02:05:01,359 You've got all of these like esoteric springs feeding into 1844 02:05:01,439 --> 02:05:08,880 these other groups, Illuminati, Jesuit Templars, Freemasons, all of that, 1845 02:05:09,159 --> 02:05:13,840 and then that is going into the mega cult era 1846 02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:17,560 that we have now, cyber cults and face lord cult 1847 02:05:17,640 --> 02:05:22,600 leaders and the dangers now that the cults, well yeah 1848 02:05:22,680 --> 02:05:23,319 you're one of them. 1849 02:05:23,359 --> 02:05:24,800 Speaker 6: I'm a face lord now. 1850 02:05:25,479 --> 02:05:27,279 Speaker 3: But if you just want to talk about one more 1851 02:05:27,359 --> 02:05:29,199 before we have to go, I know we have an appointment. 1852 02:05:29,319 --> 02:05:36,239 But Mormons, so that is a huge thing, a popular 1853 02:05:36,439 --> 02:05:39,479 topic now. So I was going to get into little well, 1854 02:05:39,600 --> 02:05:41,000 why don't we just mention it? 1855 02:05:41,079 --> 02:05:42,560 Speaker 6: Why don't we just save that for the next one, 1856 02:05:42,600 --> 02:05:47,239 because I brought my Bruce Sarmaconkie Mormon Mormon Study Bible 1857 02:05:47,439 --> 02:05:49,960 as well, and uh, we'll hit that next time. But 1858 02:05:50,680 --> 02:05:52,279 I want to remind you guys head over to chalk 1859 02:05:52,359 --> 02:05:55,199 dot com c choq dot com, the best and supplementation 1860 02:05:55,399 --> 02:05:58,159 on the Internet, and this is you did a recent 1861 02:05:58,239 --> 02:06:01,920 show with our good buddy Brett from Syops Cinema. Shout 1862 02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:05,840 out to cyp Cinema and Brett right there. Uh so 1863 02:06:05,960 --> 02:06:09,920 you can follow Jamie there on her channel and also 1864 02:06:10,640 --> 02:06:14,680 we do have the excellent, amazing show sponsor our one 1865 02:06:14,800 --> 02:06:18,800 are only the best in upping your talks at masculinity 1866 02:06:19,279 --> 02:06:21,560 through chalk dot com c h o q dot com. 1867 02:06:21,640 --> 02:06:24,359 He don't to chalk and use a promo code JAY 1868 02:06:24,439 --> 02:06:26,640 four zero to get forty percent off all those great products, 1869 02:06:26,880 --> 02:06:29,319 or the promo code Jay four four life. That's JA 1870 02:06:29,439 --> 02:06:33,000 forty four life to get forty four percent off. And 1871 02:06:33,439 --> 02:06:36,000 uh so, I don't know why we get these stupid 1872 02:06:36,520 --> 02:06:40,359 protestants just spamming the chat. He doesn't even understand what 1873 02:06:40,880 --> 02:06:43,079 the position is. We don't pray to Mary, we ask 1874 02:06:43,159 --> 02:06:46,640 for Mary's intercession, and actually there are very early uh 1875 02:06:47,119 --> 02:06:56,000 references to intercession. No, this is this is a bunch 1876 02:06:56,000 --> 02:06:58,279 of psychos and weirdos. Where all these people come from. 1877 02:06:59,159 --> 02:07:02,159 You guys are not welcome here, We go elsewhere, Famous 1878 02:07:02,199 --> 02:07:04,960 Ace Jay, What happened to your reading list on your website? 1879 02:07:05,159 --> 02:07:06,760 It was all messed up, so I took it down. 1880 02:07:06,800 --> 02:07:08,479 You can go look at the video that I recently 1881 02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:11,720 did on Top ten Books. It's two live streams back, 1882 02:07:11,760 --> 02:07:16,920 so you can watch the live stream. Albin a a 1883 02:07:17,079 --> 02:07:20,279 been a Isaac six dollars? What is my pennance? Twenty 1884 02:07:20,399 --> 02:07:23,319 or thirty orthos spankings, whatever will appease you are. This 1885 02:07:23,359 --> 02:07:24,840 is getting a little weird, so we're not going to 1886 02:07:24,880 --> 02:07:28,159 do any more spanking here. Epic Eric X five dollars Jamie, 1887 02:07:28,199 --> 02:07:29,520 what is the name of the folio book? 1888 02:07:31,119 --> 02:07:31,439 Speaker 1: Okay? 1889 02:07:32,640 --> 02:07:37,800 Speaker 3: It is the Babylonians by HWF SAgs, which is worth 1890 02:07:37,880 --> 02:07:38,199 the camera. 1891 02:07:39,560 --> 02:07:42,000 Speaker 6: You know where the camera? You can't see this whole 1892 02:07:42,039 --> 02:07:43,199 time you didn't know where the camera was. 1893 02:07:43,479 --> 02:07:44,760 Speaker 3: HWF SAgs. 1894 02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:56,319 Speaker 6: Babylonians Tuxedo Mass two dollars. Get your classic designator out 1895 02:07:56,319 --> 02:07:59,319 of my root chakra, Great Scott five dollars, Hey bro 1896 02:07:59,560 --> 02:08:03,399 and sis core dire fam. I attended Sat Nicholas Orthodox Church. Youah, 1897 02:08:03,399 --> 02:08:04,960 the one that we don't go to that you never 1898 02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:10,119 see us at. Guys, remember to hit like and share. Also, 1899 02:08:10,359 --> 02:08:13,239 you can subscribe to Jamie. She will be linked afterwards. 1900 02:08:13,279 --> 02:08:17,039 I put her link in the chat. Also, remember that 1901 02:08:17,119 --> 02:08:20,159 we have the church conference at the church that we 1902 02:08:20,279 --> 02:08:23,640 never go to. You can get your tickets there in 1903 02:08:23,840 --> 02:08:26,920 the show description. We already have quite a few. It's 1904 02:08:26,920 --> 02:08:30,359 sold pretty fast because of the Ludwell conference. Obviously that 1905 02:08:30,479 --> 02:08:33,239 sold really well as well, so this one is selling out. 1906 02:08:33,279 --> 02:08:36,199 You might want to hurry up. Well, this will probably 1907 02:08:36,199 --> 02:08:39,800 be our biggest conference yet in terms of our conferences. 1908 02:08:40,000 --> 02:08:44,159 But I think there's more super chests over here. I 1909 02:08:44,199 --> 02:08:50,600 didn't get to Sam five dollars. Jay, can you please 1910 02:08:50,720 --> 02:08:59,760 debate with one nineteen ministries? I don't know what that is. 1911 02:08:59,800 --> 02:09:02,439 It's the Hebrew roots cult. It's growing in the US. 1912 02:09:02,840 --> 02:09:07,239 My wife isn't coming out, and as an inquirer, she's 1913 02:09:07,279 --> 02:09:11,119 coming out of it thanks to you. I mean, maybe 1914 02:09:11,359 --> 02:09:14,960 I can't debate or try to subduce every single cult 1915 02:09:15,000 --> 02:09:17,000 out there, but I mean, as the cults grow, yeah, 1916 02:09:17,039 --> 02:09:18,760 we try to. We try to hit them all. But 1917 02:09:18,800 --> 02:09:20,880 I mean I've got a lot of videos and things 1918 02:09:20,960 --> 02:09:24,560 that already kind of address guys. You gotta remember to 1919 02:09:24,680 --> 02:09:26,920 a lot of the cults. I know there's variations, but 1920 02:09:27,760 --> 02:09:29,640 a lot of them have the same things going on. 1921 02:09:29,960 --> 02:09:33,319 So the same arguments against Islam pretty much are the 1922 02:09:33,359 --> 02:09:36,920 same arguments against Mormonism in terms of the strongest arguments. 1923 02:09:37,079 --> 02:09:41,479 Right For example, if you show that there's no new 1924 02:09:42,079 --> 02:09:46,239 public divine revelation and that scripture talked about there being 1925 02:09:46,279 --> 02:09:49,359 an end to public divine revelation like that, right away, 1926 02:09:49,600 --> 02:09:54,039 it ends charismatics, Pentecostals, Seven Day Adventists, Mormons, Muslims, it's 1927 02:09:54,039 --> 02:09:59,319 all the same thing, angry matic five dollars. We'd meet 1928 02:09:59,399 --> 02:10:04,520 with al Qaeda and Taliban regularly. This is from yesterday. 1929 02:10:05,279 --> 02:10:08,239 They are the local leaders and elders. The government would 1930 02:10:08,239 --> 02:10:09,760 pay them to stop fighting. It was a waste of 1931 02:10:09,880 --> 02:10:12,319 US money. I don't doubt that. As Brosey two dollars, 1932 02:10:12,359 --> 02:10:14,119 I was asking what it's an extreme? It's right now 1933 02:10:14,279 --> 02:10:18,479 a pannini. I wonder what name they'll give the we 1934 02:10:18,520 --> 02:10:20,840 already to the excuse panos five dollars. It seems like 1935 02:10:20,920 --> 02:10:24,159 demons due to their acting against God's plan or low 1936 02:10:24,239 --> 02:10:27,479 gie for them, they are determined in that their slaves 1937 02:10:27,520 --> 02:10:29,960 to their destructive state can help themselves, despite possessing the 1938 02:10:30,039 --> 02:10:33,760 capacity to repent. I don't think demons have the capacity 1939 02:10:33,840 --> 02:10:38,119 to repent because they were already They already made their 1940 02:10:38,199 --> 02:10:41,000 decision in an instant, because they're not in time, or 1941 02:10:41,039 --> 02:10:43,960 their existence in the no Edic realm is not in time. 1942 02:10:44,640 --> 02:10:47,920 So they had a singular choice at the beginning before 1943 02:10:47,960 --> 02:10:49,960 Adam and Eve were tempted, and that was their fault. 1944 02:10:49,960 --> 02:10:53,159 Because we get the ability to repent because we exist 1945 02:10:53,880 --> 02:10:57,840 in time. They don't well Truro five dollars. Dire Squad, 1946 02:10:57,880 --> 02:11:04,000 we did that. Excuse me seven eleven ten dollars, Thank 1947 02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:05,520 you guys for your videos. God bless you, Thank you. 1948 02:11:05,560 --> 02:11:11,720 Appreciate that. D Bailey five dollars. Have you heard the 1949 02:11:11,760 --> 02:11:14,399 theory that Jacob's ladder is a ziggarot? I know you 1950 02:11:14,520 --> 02:11:16,680 mentioned the Tower of Babbel. Never heard that. I mean, 1951 02:11:16,720 --> 02:11:19,560 in orthodox iconography, we don't ever see it other than 1952 02:11:19,600 --> 02:11:24,199 a ladder, so I wouldn't I wouldn't think much of that. 1953 02:11:28,000 --> 02:11:30,600 Irena fifty dollars. Thank you so much, she says, God 1954 02:11:30,640 --> 02:11:32,079 bless you guys for what you do. Thank you so much. 1955 02:11:32,199 --> 02:11:37,399 Verena appreciate that. I me toy sing, keep. 1956 02:11:37,319 --> 02:11:41,359 Speaker 9: It up, shut you'll got it, buddy, fo yo buddy, 1957 02:11:47,520 --> 02:11:50,039 damn Ash Browsie five dollars. I was gonna get make 1958 02:11:50,079 --> 02:11:52,319 a joke about you splitting the super chest to Jamie, 1959 02:11:52,359 --> 02:11:53,439 but then you said it also. 1960 02:11:53,600 --> 02:11:56,960 Speaker 6: Jamie refrained from saying anernocky because you will bring it 1961 02:11:57,000 --> 02:12:03,640 will summon Billy corson oxido masko. We did those. Excuse me, okay, 1962 02:12:03,720 --> 02:12:08,159 we did those. Riley James, James Joseph, I love your 1963 02:12:08,199 --> 02:12:10,800 streams together. Keep up the good work. Six dollars and 1964 02:12:10,800 --> 02:12:13,119 sevent two cents. Thank you, Sam. We did that with 1965 02:12:13,199 --> 02:12:16,039 Connor five dollars day. Did you upgrade your streaming PC 1966 02:12:17,800 --> 02:12:21,840 in a Max Studio M four? Yes, I did, H CJ. 1967 02:12:21,960 --> 02:12:24,479 Five dollars. Did you see that Rouselin was calling out 1968 02:12:24,560 --> 02:12:29,640 Flintest for a debate? No, I didn't see that. Of course, 1969 02:12:29,880 --> 02:12:33,920 flintis declined to have another debate with me. How do 1970 02:12:34,039 --> 02:12:35,560 you think that debate would go? I mean, it really 1971 02:12:35,600 --> 02:12:38,039 depends on what they would debate, But I mean, Ruslin 1972 02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:43,479 doesn't debate jell politics and Flints doesn't really debate theology 1973 02:12:43,680 --> 02:12:46,399 or he just does politics stuff. So I don't even 1974 02:12:46,439 --> 02:12:50,560 know what they would debate. Rouselin seems ill equipped. He's 1975 02:12:50,600 --> 02:12:54,760 basically just being been making fun of Flint this. I 1976 02:12:54,800 --> 02:12:57,960 haven't seen that. He doesn't know what he's getting into. Well, 1977 02:12:58,000 --> 02:12:59,640 it just depends on what they debate. 1978 02:12:59,640 --> 02:12:59,720 Speaker 3: But. 1979 02:13:02,560 --> 02:13:06,479 Speaker 6: I don't know. I mean, I like riss On on 1980 02:13:06,560 --> 02:13:10,640 a personal level, but you know, when we debated Sola Fide, 1981 02:13:10,840 --> 02:13:12,920 I don't. I don't think he did very well on 1982 02:13:13,079 --> 02:13:17,800 his podcast, Gray Scott, No, he did that. Anonymous five dollars. 1983 02:13:18,039 --> 02:13:20,119 This sounds dumb. I believe God's grace pulled me away 1984 02:13:20,159 --> 02:13:23,399 from a cult last year. Can you look into this cult? 1985 02:13:24,840 --> 02:13:27,880 They refused to talk about history, and they revile the 1986 02:13:27,960 --> 02:13:33,399 quote Catholic church. Okay, but what cult? What's You didn't 1987 02:13:33,399 --> 02:13:35,560 tell me what cult? Anonymous said, put the name of 1988 02:13:35,640 --> 02:13:38,960 the cult, because yeah, I'll be happy to look into it, 1989 02:13:39,079 --> 02:13:40,520 But I don't know what. You didn't tell me what 1990 02:13:40,600 --> 02:13:41,239 the name of it was. 1991 02:13:42,159 --> 02:13:44,279 Speaker 3: You know, whatever you new cult's gonna have in common 1992 02:13:44,359 --> 02:13:48,720 now is space because so many old ones have that. 1993 02:13:49,439 --> 02:13:51,359 Speaker 6: It's called it's called exo theology. 1994 02:13:51,520 --> 02:13:55,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're gonna see way more space clts, Heaven's Gate, 1995 02:13:55,439 --> 02:14:01,640 called serious cults like uh Venus polaris you. That's going 1996 02:14:01,720 --> 02:14:02,399 to be a new thing. 1997 02:14:09,079 --> 02:14:09,399 Speaker 2: All right. 1998 02:14:09,439 --> 02:14:10,760 Speaker 6: Well, guys, thank you so much for be sure and 1999 02:14:10,800 --> 02:14:12,600 subscribe to Jamie and check out all of her great 2000 02:14:12,680 --> 02:14:16,119 podcasts and research. She does reading all the time as well. 2001 02:14:16,840 --> 02:14:19,439 And you can't beat people that are a tuxedo mass. 2002 02:14:19,439 --> 02:14:21,640 Few dollars get your flassic designator out of my root 2003 02:14:21,720 --> 02:14:25,920 chakra zing. Another singer, doctor Cash dies five dollars. Keep 2004 02:14:25,960 --> 02:14:28,199 up the good work, not one step back, Thank you 2005 02:14:28,319 --> 02:14:34,479 so much. All right, Wait, Seattle rob ten dollars Jay, 2006 02:14:34,520 --> 02:14:36,680 I'm learning so much from your videos. First time catching 2007 02:14:36,680 --> 02:14:41,000 you live. Is there an Orthodox explanation of saints as 2008 02:14:41,079 --> 02:14:44,640 creatures hearing the prayers of the world around, asking for 2009 02:14:44,720 --> 02:14:48,600 them to intercede. It's called deification. It's called theosis, participating 2010 02:14:48,680 --> 02:14:53,000 in the uncreated energies of God, which Peter says that 2011 02:14:53,079 --> 02:14:56,199 we become partakers of the divine nature, aka the divine energies. 2012 02:14:57,960 --> 02:14:58,159 Speaker 10: Yep. 2013 02:14:58,560 --> 02:15:02,279 Speaker 3: So check out next week we're gonna have paranoid American 2014 02:15:02,359 --> 02:15:07,399 on talking about Mormon stuff. Oh you are, Yeah, And 2015 02:15:08,079 --> 02:15:10,079 the next time me and you do a stream on 2016 02:15:10,159 --> 02:15:12,479 my channel, we're going to be talking about something Wika 2017 02:15:12,680 --> 02:15:13,600 this way comes. 2018 02:15:13,640 --> 02:15:14,920 Speaker 6: Oh which wick and witchcraft? 2019 02:15:15,039 --> 02:15:16,760 Speaker 3: Okay, stuff about Wicka and witchcraft. 2020 02:15:16,880 --> 02:15:18,600 Speaker 6: All right, thank you guys. Everybody hit like share and 2021 02:15:18,920 --> 02:15:22,439 tell me below what you think about all the pagan 2022 02:15:22,479 --> 02:15:25,640 religions and cults and how amazingly parallel they are to today.