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Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about today.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have Troy on who give us latest updates
Speaker 3: on whatever he knows and what's going on with the team.
Speaker 3: Never say this. We have a guy who we think
Speaker 3: the world of David Kelly. Did you see his question? Now,
Speaker 3: here's question to to and it's kind of been kind
Speaker 3: of controversial on Twitter by a certain person to Brett
Speaker 3: David Kelly. David Kelly asked coach Brennan, and I don't
Speaker 3: we don't go to the press coming, so we're not
Speaker 3: gonna criticize because we're not asking our own question. So
Speaker 3: he asked, yes, Coach Brennan, uh, your team one by twelve,
Speaker 3: your favorite by three five? Saw you celebrating in the
Speaker 3: middle of the bare down. What was up with that?
Speaker 2: He asked? The probably better than that.
Speaker 3: Yes, your vote, your eyes and your your your ears
Speaker 3: kind of are telling me exactly what you feel.
Speaker 2: It was an odd question. It's like so so.
Speaker 4: David Kelly saying because you didn't beat him by enough,
Speaker 4: you shouldn't be happy.
Speaker 3: That's what it sounded like. That's what I sound and
Speaker 3: I respect the hell out of David Kelly. He's one
Speaker 3: of our colleagues, is one of my friends, our friends,
Speaker 3: he's been with us a number of times.
Speaker 2: But that was it was. I didn't hear the question
Speaker 2: until I.
Speaker 3: Sat on Twitter, where that's kind of how it came off,
Speaker 3: and then they showed the Twitter he was having fun.
Speaker 3: I shouldn't apologie if I if I win, if I win,
Speaker 3: I'm winning exactly. You've been into a bad, bad, bad defeated.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well why why why should Brent Brennan not celebrate
Speaker 4: winning a game?
Speaker 2: All Right?
Speaker 4: I will always in that, you know, in that conversation,
Speaker 4: I will always, always, always, always go back to the
Speaker 4: time that that TV reporter asked Dick Tomy or said
Speaker 4: to Dick Tony about a win over Oregon, it wasn't pretty,
Speaker 4: but it win's a win.
Speaker 2: Right, He grabbed the microphone.
Speaker 4: He grabbed the microphone from him and yelled at him
Speaker 4: and told him how hard it is to win a
Speaker 4: football game, and then gave him back his microphone and
Speaker 4: said start over rephrase the question, reprase the question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember, and this happened to maybe me. I
Speaker 3: don't know what's happened to Bruce a time or two
Speaker 3: with Kevin O'Neill, and he went off with that. Uh,
Speaker 3: I get it, I get it. But apology is not here.
Speaker 3: You know, Brennan does not have to he doesn't have
Speaker 3: to pologize.
Speaker 2: Very much.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean, you know, yeah, I'm not going
Speaker 4: to criticize David for asking the question. I wouldn't ask
Speaker 4: the same question exactly. Guys can ask whatever they want
Speaker 4: to ask. But if Brent says, f you to that question,
Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with that either. I I
Speaker 4: don't because why why for after all that Arizona's been through,
Speaker 4: Why is it?
Speaker 2: Why are we going to be.
Speaker 4: Now taking knits about what they should be doing after
Speaker 4: a win?
Speaker 2: Right? Right? That'll be for later. That'll be for later.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I just how good do you feel? We
Speaker 3: talked about yesterday? We talked to that a lot about
Speaker 3: it yesterday, wet Troy again here in the first hour.
Speaker 3: But how do how good you feel about Friday night?
Speaker 4: I don't feel honestly, I swear to God, this is true,
Speaker 4: I don't feel any different than I did before Saturday.
Speaker 2: Or over the last two weeks.
Speaker 4: Right, I don't feel any different because just because Steve,
Speaker 4: these games are games where they're trying to figure themselves out.
Speaker 2: Right, They're doing things, they're trying things.
Speaker 4: You know, maybe they didn't run some stuff Saturday night
Speaker 4: that they might have had to run if they thought
Speaker 4: they were in danger of losing the game. Injury and
Speaker 4: and right, there were guys playing out a position. And
Speaker 4: I get Brent Brandon's question answer to his question when
Speaker 4: they before the first game, when he was asked, you know,
Speaker 4: are you got are you going to hold stuff back?
Speaker 4: And he said, we're gonna call the players we need
Speaker 4: to call to win the game. And maybe that's what
Speaker 4: he did. That's a they as it relates to Saturday night,
Speaker 4: maybe they did hold some stuff back because they called
Speaker 4: the plays to win the game.
Speaker 2: Guess what, they won the game, So who knows.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't feel any different because they're because
Speaker 4: they did win the two games, and that's what you expected.
Speaker 2: Have they looked as dominating as you wanted them to look.
Speaker 4: Well, their offense sure did on in the first game,
Speaker 4: and the defense was pretty and I think part of
Speaker 4: why people didn't like what happened Saturday was just the offense,
Speaker 4: because the defense did its job right. They held the
Speaker 4: opponent to ten points, and they got those ten points
Speaker 4: in the first half, and they shut them down the
Speaker 4: rest of the game.
Speaker 2: That's what a good defense does.
Speaker 4: It's just the offense didn't put another sixty one points
Speaker 4: on the board.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, no, good, I agree with you. They didn't
Speaker 3: look so good in the first half. They they did
Speaker 3: what they did. They had to win. Yeah, they won
Speaker 3: the game. Okay, good, good. So I was like, we're back.
Speaker 3: We hope that everybody's listening to us live here.
Speaker 2: Ran Well, we've got some technical things to Ryan.
Speaker 4: We don't have a clock over here, so you've got
Speaker 4: to give us a ten second or thirty second countdown
Speaker 4: or something like give us a thirty all right, Well,
Speaker 4: we got thirty seconds to go off the air and
Speaker 4: then give us a countdown so that we know when
Speaker 4: we again, this is our first day, first day here,
Speaker 4: we're trying to figure things out. So yeah, we're sorry
Speaker 4: if we were late or not late, but we were
Speaker 4: on the air. We just couldn't get everything on the
Speaker 4: same page. It looks like we're on the page now.
Speaker 4: We're talking a little about offic see the big game
Speaker 4: on Friday, and I want to say it's bigger.
Speaker 2: Kansas State's fourteen. Are they that high?
Speaker 3: Or I think they're our twenty and it'll be two
Speaker 3: right teams, even though it is.
Speaker 4: Two ranked teams and there aren't a lot of those games.
Speaker 4: There aren't a lot of those games this weekend. Arizona
Speaker 4: is twenty, right, So I'm looking at up right now
Speaker 4: Kansas State. Yes, Kansas State's fourteen, Arizona is twenty.
Speaker 3: I think the last time two ranked teams with Arizona,
Speaker 3: it's been a while, in a while, I think, well Elmible, yeah,
Speaker 3: but regular season, regular it's been a while.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Was Utahon rank by the time Arizona
Speaker 2: played him last year?
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know, but that was that
Speaker 3: was a surprise game November twenty three.
Speaker 4: Again, you know, let's let's get to this game. I
Speaker 4: know we keep saying get to the next game, get
Speaker 4: but really, I mean we've said all along, what were
Speaker 4: we going to find out about Arizona In the first.
Speaker 3: Two game again, we got about to what ten seconds
Speaker 3: maybe ten seconds Okay, we're going.
Speaker 2: To take a break. Come back with Troy.
Speaker 3: See what he says about the situation going on with
Speaker 3: the team, maybe what he's hearing from his message boards
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Speaker 1: Breaking down all the exes at all. It's Steve Rivera
Speaker 1: and Jagin Salvid. This is I on the ball Fox
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Speaker 3: Fifty tre Hey, welcome back to the ball here Fox
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Speaker 4: Next, I'm not hearing you from here. After the headphones,
Speaker 4: I'm go ahead and say something hello, Okay, okay, you
Speaker 4: the music still Yeah, the music was going.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Thanks for hanging in with us, guys. We're still in
Speaker 3: the new We just got into the new studio. For
Speaker 3: the first ten minutes, you may not have heard anything,
Speaker 3: but now we're trying to get a hold of Troy Hutchinson.
Speaker 2: Uh, Hutchison Hutchison.
Speaker 12: And see yeah, can you hear.
Speaker 3: Me Italia, Troy, thanks for joining us. Uh, we have
Speaker 3: a lot to talk about any word on the new
Speaker 3: on the return of the Stark Running Back.
Speaker 13: You know, right now, they're still leading that up.
Speaker 12: To it's going to be a game time decision. They're
Speaker 12: looking into details as to what exactly is going on.
Speaker 12: But anytime there's eligibility questions that come to light, the
Speaker 12: smart thing to do is to not play the player
Speaker 12: and that way you're not you know, having any games
Speaker 12: taken away later on down the road, Troy, do we
Speaker 12: even know.
Speaker 4: What it is, what the issue is or might be,
Speaker 4: or you know, does it have to do with the
Speaker 4: fact that he was basically at three different schools you know,
Speaker 4: this last year.
Speaker 2: I mean, what's going on with it? Do we know?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 12: You know, they haven't made clear exactly what the eligibility
Speaker 12: issue is. But it was well documented that j. Cory
Speaker 12: Krofsky Merit had some eligibility questions in terms of he
Speaker 12: had eligibility or not when he went to Old Miss
Speaker 12: and when he was being recruited by Arizona. I think
Speaker 12: that was Texas A and them that brought those to light.
Speaker 12: Arizona did their research, they felt like he was all
Speaker 12: good to go, so they.
Speaker 13: Brought him in and.
Speaker 12: We're able to flip him from Ole Miss and now
Speaker 12: it seems like maybe that's possibility of those type of
Speaker 12: things coming back, But no official word as to what
Speaker 12: those issues are per se.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you've been to a lot of the practices
Speaker 2: when you're allowed to, You've covered the team on the
Speaker 2: daily basis any any we'll go to the good side
Speaker 2: on the bad side, But right now we'll go to concerns.
Speaker 2: You were at the game Saturday, you saw what are
Speaker 2: your maybe top three concerns.
Speaker 12: I think number one is the offensive line, and you know,
Speaker 12: we talked about it a lot during the off season
Speaker 12: and going into training campus if they are healthy, that
Speaker 12: this offense line was going to be a really good
Speaker 12: unit for Arizona. But you saw the lack of death
Speaker 12: last Saturday, when Josh Baker isn't in there, when Ryan,
Speaker 12: when Rhino isn't in there, and they kind of kind
Speaker 12: of have to move Ryan Stewart on the outside to
Speaker 12: left tackle. There's just not a lot of capable bodies
Speaker 12: right now for Arizona with a guy like Michael Wooten
Speaker 12: who has been injured the last couple of weeks, not
Speaker 12: being able to participate, and you're throwing in a guy
Speaker 12: like Matthew Matthew Lado who is a true freshman. So
Speaker 12: if the five starters aren't able to go, there are
Speaker 12: issues for Arizona's offensive line and you saw that with
Speaker 12: no Facida really being pressured throughout the whole entire game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he got he got chased around all night long.
Speaker 4: And as you said, you know, we knew this going in.
Speaker 4: So do they have time to fix this? I mean,
Speaker 4: what you know, who's who, who's going to be available
Speaker 4: this weekend? I mean this is going to be a
Speaker 4: lot harder game than NAU. So what do they have
Speaker 4: And is that a concern going into into this game
Speaker 4: with Kansas State?
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, they obviously do not talk about injuries
Speaker 12: at Arizona, but Josh Baker, we did see him on
Speaker 12: the sideline and warming up with the team against NAU
Speaker 12: he just wasn't able to go. So I would be
Speaker 12: under the impression that he probably will be able to
Speaker 12: go against Kansas.
Speaker 13: State, given that it seemed like a minor injury U.
Speaker 12: That kind of plagued him throughout training camp in spring
Speaker 12: practice as well. But who knows the severity of that.
Speaker 12: But if he's able to go, I think that's going
Speaker 12: to be one of.
Speaker 13: The key pieces Arizona needs to get back.
Speaker 12: No offense degrations soleball. But he doesn't have the experience
Speaker 12: that a Josh Baker does with this unit on the
Speaker 12: offensive line, where you had that veteran at center kind
Speaker 12: of pointing everything now, pointing out the blitz packages, pointing
Speaker 12: out the cover schemes and whatnot. When you take that away,
Speaker 12: you saw a play out the communication is array and
Speaker 12: you have a situation where you have four guys blocking
Speaker 12: one defender. I think it was Michael Leed that tweeted
Speaker 12: out that photo layer's going to have four guys on
Speaker 12: one defender because the communication just isn't there. If you're
Speaker 12: able to get Josh Baker back, even if Rhino isn't
Speaker 12: able to go, the communication is going to be better.
Speaker 12: Everybody's going to be put in the right position, and
Speaker 12: that can go a long way.
Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about the centerpiece. Obviously he was
Speaker 3: not the centerpiece on Saturday night. How are they going
Speaker 3: to refine that?
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, I think you just have to get
Speaker 12: a little bit more creative of.
Speaker 13: Getting them the football.
Speaker 12: And then again, you know Arizona was trying to distribute
Speaker 12: the ball and no if you made it a point
Speaker 12: of wanting to get the ball two different guys outside
Speaker 12: of Tetorol McMillan. But you know, two catches for eleven
Speaker 12: yards after posting three hundred yards is somewhat concerning if
Speaker 12: you're just a fan on the outside looking in. But
Speaker 12: you know, you also have to take into account that
Speaker 12: they are playing in Au, you have Kansas State coming up,
Speaker 12: and how much of the offense or even route running
Speaker 12: schemes and concepts do you want to give up ahead
Speaker 12: of the Kansas State game? How how how much simple
Speaker 12: are you going to make the offense? How how simplified
Speaker 12: is it going to be for NAU And I think
Speaker 12: it's a combination of that and just not just having
Speaker 12: a good day Saturday night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so well, and I am my thinking too was that,
Speaker 4: I you know, I'm sitting in the seat, so I'm
Speaker 4: watching this as a fan, and you know how much
Speaker 4: analysis can do it, but it'll looked to me, I
Speaker 4: just had this feeling that they were trying too hard
Speaker 4: not to throw the ball to McMillan all the time. Right,
Speaker 4: they come out, first play of the game, they throw
Speaker 4: him a pass, and then they didn't throw it to
Speaker 4: him again until they forced a couple. They threw a
Speaker 4: defade pattern, they threw that one pass that got tipped
Speaker 4: in intercepted. It just didn't look like it looked like
Speaker 4: they were trying hard to get the other guys involved
Speaker 4: to the to the point of their offense became ineffective
Speaker 4: because they weren't throwing him the ball. And and then
Speaker 4: on top of that, Fafidos running for his life from
Speaker 4: the outset, you know, the whole night, and so they
Speaker 4: didn't block for him, so he didn't have time to
Speaker 4: look for h That's how I saw it, sitting in
Speaker 4: the seats as a fan.
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, I think that's a very good take,
Speaker 12: because they were trying to get other players the ball,
Speaker 12: and he even said after the New Mexico game that
Speaker 12: he wanted to do a better job of that and
Speaker 12: that was on him during that game. But I think
Speaker 12: at the end of the day, when you're under for
Speaker 12: most of the game, it is hard to scan the field.
Speaker 12: I think there were times where he was open and
Speaker 12: they just weren't able to get him the football given
Speaker 12: that somebody was in Faciita space. So if you're able
Speaker 12: to get the offensive line situation hanned out and figured
Speaker 12: out for Kansas State, I think you're going to see
Speaker 12: a much more cohesive offense for Arizona.
Speaker 4: All right, So where did Kendrick Muscone come from? I mean,
Speaker 4: not literally, I know he came from Mississippi, But was
Speaker 4: he kind of not out of nowhere kind of guy.
Speaker 4: Did you guys see much of him during preseason camp?
Speaker 12: Yeah? You know, during camp they were able to rotate
Speaker 12: the running back corps and we did see a lot
Speaker 12: of him and he showed a lot of good things there.
Speaker 12: But you know, he's the guy that was a four
Speaker 12: star recruit coming out of high school. Didn't play much,
Speaker 12: I think, at all on offense at Mississippi. Only saw
Speaker 12: time on special teams, So there wasn't a lot that
Speaker 12: people knew about him in terms of the college level,
Speaker 12: but obviously a big, physical, bruising back that has the
Speaker 12: ability to burst one if he gets leverage on a defense.
Speaker 12: And you saw that against ANAU. Just a very complete back,
Speaker 12: very physical and bulky as hell. So they got really
Speaker 12: they got something special there, because when you lose a
Speaker 12: guy like j Cory krossky merrit and again his eligibility
Speaker 12: is up in the air, we don't know how that's
Speaker 12: gonna go Friday night. To have the ability to go
Speaker 12: to quality Conley and Risano, that's massive because I think
Speaker 12: in years past, once you go through that number one
Speaker 12: back not being available and the number two back having
Speaker 12: to carry the load, you don't really have that number
Speaker 12: two back in that situation as years past, not last season,
Speaker 12: but previous years to that. So being able to be
Speaker 12: that deep as massive, and it really helps, you know,
Speaker 12: Baber's in the offense kind of you know, settle things
Speaker 12: down for no fa fida and everybody else.
Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna ask you to be a homer
Speaker 3: or otherwise. You know, we have two homers in the
Speaker 3: one and I'm the other guy. But but how how
Speaker 3: confident are you and I ask just earlier. I'm not
Speaker 3: sure if anybody heard it in the year, but are
Speaker 3: you about them competing on Friday? Are doing well enough
Speaker 3: to compete?
Speaker 12: I think they're going to be very competitive in the game.
Speaker 12: I think it's going to be a close game. Yes,
Speaker 12: there's gonna had a lot of issues, but so did
Speaker 12: Kansas State. And I know Tulane is a completely different
Speaker 12: animal compared to NAU, but Kansas State's pass defense was horrible.
Speaker 12: I mean absolutely putrid. I mean, Delane was able to
Speaker 12: get whatever it wanted in the passing game and no
Speaker 12: offense to Tulane receivers. But I don't think they'd have
Speaker 12: a Tetoro and McMillian out there on the football field.
Speaker 12: It looked very soft. And luckily for Kansas State, their
Speaker 12: running game got going and you know they're running back.
Speaker 12: DJ Giddings was very good in that game. I think
Speaker 12: he had one hundred and seventy seven yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 12: They were kind of able to control the clock in
Speaker 12: the second half and put up points. So I think
Speaker 12: there are a lot of defensive issues for Kansas State,
Speaker 12: especially in the secondary, that Arizona can take advantage of well.
Speaker 4: And again, you know are Kansas State fans complaining about
Speaker 4: the fact that they didn't beat De Lane by enough?
Speaker 2: You know, thats just guess what.
Speaker 4: They're two and zero as well, and they're ranked Arizona's ranked.
Speaker 4: It's going to be a nice game on Saturday. It's
Speaker 4: certainly going to be fun. And this is, as I said,
Speaker 4: this is where we start to find out what Arizona
Speaker 4: really might be. And if you're if you're thinking, or
Speaker 4: if you're thinking that Arizona should be any better than
Speaker 4: two and two, then you need to really rethink your thinking,
Speaker 4: because they might be more better than two and two.
Speaker 4: They can be better than two and two, but I
Speaker 4: think the more likely, the bigger likelihood, is that they will.
Speaker 2: Be two and two.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think two and two or three and one,
Speaker 12: three and one being probably the best case scenario coming
Speaker 12: out of this two game stretch. But for Arizona, people
Speaker 12: have to keep in mind after Kim say, you do
Speaker 12: have that bye week before Utah, which I think will
Speaker 12: be critical in terms of getting guys healthy, getting something
Speaker 12: shirt up. And meanwhile Utah is playing Oklahoma State. So
Speaker 12: it's going to be an interesting three weeks for Arizona.
Speaker 12: But that three and one market. They can get to that,
Speaker 12: they're going to be sitting pretty going into the biginning.
Speaker 2: They get to that I'm winning my over eight wins,
Speaker 2: a lot of people will be happy. So we're talking about.
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Speaker 3: and I should know this because I was with you
Speaker 3: guys for a while.
Speaker 2: Uh the fan boards? Do you listen? Do you have
Speaker 2: one of those?
Speaker 13: Oh?
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, we have much boards covering Arizona football and
Speaker 12: basketball as well.
Speaker 2: So what's the what's the overlying team? Is there going?
Speaker 2: Are they going crazy?
Speaker 12: I think one of the main things is concerned with
Speaker 12: the offense. I think defensively, everybody thinks that, you know,
Speaker 12: Joyne A Kina is going to figure it out and
Speaker 12: just give him some time to be the head guy
Speaker 12: as a defense.
Speaker 13: Coordinator and they'll be fine.
Speaker 12: But offensively, I know there's a lot of concerned When
Speaker 12: Arizona brought in coach Dino Babers, given that Syracuse offense
Speaker 12: over the years was very up and down, fans wanted
Speaker 12: other guys. I forget the names off the top of
Speaker 12: my head right now. But I think one thing to
Speaker 12: keep in mind is that at Syracuse you're not getting
Speaker 12: the same type of offensive weapons or skill set guys
Speaker 12: that you can get out in Arizona. Given that you're
Speaker 12: close to Texas, Hawaii, California, where you know northeast, there's
Speaker 12: not a lot of offensive talent out there in those
Speaker 12: high schools. So I think it's going to be something
Speaker 12: similar to when Dino Babers was a wide receiver coach
Speaker 12: at Beeler or when he was at Texas A and M.
Speaker 12: I think that's going to be the Deno Babers we
Speaker 12: see here at Arizona.
Speaker 4: Look, Dino Babers is a really good coach, and I
Speaker 4: think one of the things that maybe is not being
Speaker 4: considered enough is that regardless of how talented you are,
Speaker 4: these guys are all new to each other and and
Speaker 4: you know there's some break in time, and you know
Speaker 4: there's still in that break in time, regardless of how
Speaker 4: experience all of the coaches are, regardless of how experienced
Speaker 4: the players are, how good they are, there's break in time.
Speaker 4: And that's what I feel that that's what they're going through.
Speaker 4: That's why I'm not. Look, I've said before, I was
Speaker 4: not happy with with what it looked like on Saturday night.
Speaker 4: But again I got out of the stadium and I'm like, well,
Speaker 4: they're going two. I mean, they're two and zero. So
Speaker 4: people just got to relax about this and figure it out.
Speaker 4: It'll it'll be I'm not going to say we know
Speaker 4: one hundred percent it's going to be fine, because maybe
Speaker 4: they maybe they aren't as good as we thought they
Speaker 4: were going to be, and maybe maybe there's some issues,
Speaker 4: but there are other things going on.
Speaker 2: As you talked about the issues on the offensive line.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a big deal, very much so.
Speaker 12: And you know, it kind of reminds me this in
Speaker 12: a U game this last week reminds me of twenty fourteen.
Speaker 12: I was going to finish I believe ten and three
Speaker 12: and lost in the Piesta Bowl. They went on the
Speaker 12: road to Utosa and struggled in that game and it
Speaker 12: was an ugly game. I think they won twenty to
Speaker 12: seventeen something.
Speaker 2: Like that to get a pick.
Speaker 12: Very next week they yeah, and the very next week
Speaker 12: they beat number two Oregon in Austin Stadium. So you're
Speaker 12: working out a lot of kinks during the non conference.
Speaker 12: You know, people call it the non conference, but in reality,
Speaker 12: when you look at it from a football standpoint, it's
Speaker 12: kind of like a preseason. The regular season is your
Speaker 12: conference season, and these three games are to work out
Speaker 12: kinks and get things straight and ironed out and ready
Speaker 12: to go for that nine game conference schedule stretch.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, that again, and that's what That's what I'm seeing.
Speaker 4: I just feel like everybody needs to just give it time.
Speaker 4: That happened to have no choice. I want to ask you,
Speaker 4: Jab if the fan is coming out on you or
Speaker 4: just you're the no.
Speaker 2: I think. I think the rational reasonable person.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Ryan, you ever heard of that. This
Speaker 3: is the person I've ever heard of, a rational reasonable just.
Speaker 4: The the you know, big thinker, right kind of the
Speaker 4: analytic means.
Speaker 3: Roy, are you just still are? Did you fall and
Speaker 3: tell off your chair?
Speaker 13: I heard him.
Speaker 12: I get what he's saying. I get what he's saying.
Speaker 3: Okay, good, good, good well, Troy. We appreciate your time,
Speaker 3: thanks a bunch, and going to the game. Are you
Speaker 3: going to Manhattan?
Speaker 12: I am not going to Manhattan, but I am possibly
Speaker 12: going to Salt Lake City that is still up in
Speaker 12: the air, but hopefully going to make it out to
Speaker 12: Salt Lake City for Arizona Utah.
Speaker 2: Okay, great, well we'll talk to you. We'll see you soon.
Speaker 12: Have a good one, guys area.
Speaker 2: Thank you Troy from Go Easy Cat. Yeah, and I'm
Speaker 2: going to and rationally reasonable Jay is going to stay
Speaker 2: for the rest of this show.
Speaker 3: Holy, I want to meet that guy. I get to
Speaker 3: get to know him. After five years, I get to
Speaker 3: know that guy know him. Yeah, all right, okay, this
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Speaker 1: This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and
Speaker 1: Jay Gonzalez Son Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Subscribe now to
Speaker 1: the podcast on the iHeart Rate, just Surgery on the Ball.
Speaker 3: And welcome back to I on the Ball. We're here
Speaker 3: on Fox fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's jagins Awas
Speaker 3: and today is Ryan doing a great job.
Speaker 2: Ryan, Thank you very much for this new studio.
Speaker 4: And running this show. Ryan, nothing's broken. We have no
Speaker 4: idea what hell is going on over Tony. Just keep
Speaker 4: those training wheels right there.
Speaker 2: I like to set up. It is nice. It's very nice.
Speaker 3: This looks like get comfortable. Yeah, I mean we look
Speaker 3: like professionals, Tony. I'm not good with change, but here
Speaker 3: we are.
Speaker 4: Look, we're we're doing okay. Once we got on the air,
Speaker 4: everything's gone just fine. And again Ryan capably running this
Speaker 4: board that it looks a little scary, but it's not
Speaker 4: that much different. The phones are being a little different.
Speaker 4: So if you you can call in, yeah, we can
Speaker 4: take your calls five two zero, four, one, six, seventy
Speaker 4: four to forty. We'll try and answer the calls. Right,
Speaker 4: Troy got it, Troy got answered.
Speaker 2: We're good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so far, so good, Tony, thank you very much.
Speaker 3: The next hour, if you didn't hear our guests, we're
Speaker 3: gonna have George Kelly, Empire football coach seven and zero
Speaker 3: in the last few games from last year.
Speaker 2: Very good team.
Speaker 3: Uh, going one of those veil teams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's going on in Micah, Mountain, Sienega
Speaker 2: and now Empire.
Speaker 3: Right, right, So we'll talk about that because it's a
Speaker 3: growing area. You're kind of in that area, but not
Speaker 3: really not really. You're about far for me. Yeah, you're
Speaker 3: on the east side.
Speaker 2: That's far from me. Yeah, so we'll talk about what's
Speaker 2: going on over there.
Speaker 4: I'm technically in the Sabino School district. Okay you never
Speaker 4: left that area either, No, I'm just still there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, we'll talk more, and so if you want
Speaker 3: to call again, Like like J said, five to four,
Speaker 3: we've talked a lot about Arizona football to this point.
Speaker 4: The point spreads bumped to seven and a half. Now, right,
Speaker 4: wasn't it seven during the show yesterday?
Speaker 2: Yes, well, it was started in the summer nine, it
Speaker 2: was a nine, dropped to six and a half.
Speaker 4: Now it went to seven, and now it's about it's
Speaker 4: bounced back up to seven and then Kansas State by
Speaker 4: seven and a half.
Speaker 3: I'm not touching it. You're probably not touching it, you know.
Speaker 3: But if I was touching it, well, I'm not kim
Speaker 3: because I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: A bad thing that happens to me is that I'm
Speaker 4: sitting at the tailgate and you know, think, and I
Speaker 4: get all fired up for the game and then I
Speaker 4: want to throw it down on it. But you know,
Speaker 4: we're gonna be on We're gonna be on the air
Speaker 4: in the two hours before the game, right, our show
Speaker 4: ends a couple of minutes before before the game starts.
Speaker 4: So you know, I'll be listening to the first in
Speaker 4: the car.
Speaker 2: Stick with us.
Speaker 3: If you don't want to listen to that pregrowing show,
Speaker 3: you can listen to us. Have plenty to talk about
Speaker 3: that day, exactly. Yeah, about the game.
Speaker 2: Try and get a couple of good guests in here
Speaker 2: who can analyze some stuff like we're gonna have to
Speaker 2: get the Kansas State guy Thursday, right because yeah, you'll
Speaker 2: be you'll be getting ready to start start the game.
Speaker 2: He's not gonna want to be talking to us. Well
Speaker 2: on Thursday. We'll get him on Thursday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay again George Kelly on the other side of
Speaker 3: this next hour.
Speaker 2: For the next game. So we need a hand signal
Speaker 2: Ryan if somebody calls us or something like that.
Speaker 12: So just.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess it does, doesn't it. I don't know, No,
Speaker 2: it doesn't.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to tell me that there's
Speaker 4: a a collar coming in. We have a nice red
Speaker 4: dump button right there in front of you, Steve, he's
Speaker 4: in charge of the dump butt.
Speaker 2: I no, I don't. I don't. He's got the dump button.
Speaker 2: So it's a it's it's much bigger than just I'm
Speaker 2: a little just intimidated.
Speaker 4: But it'll get to yeah, we'll be comfortably be fine.
Speaker 2: But uh again, you know, going back.
Speaker 4: And I know we were going to beat the hell
Speaker 4: out of this dead horse, but you know, this game
Speaker 4: is just a game that we finally start to find out,
Speaker 4: you know, where Arizona is, and I think we'll learn
Speaker 4: a lot about him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what do you know? Now? We don't know?
Speaker 4: That's right, Well, that's what I'm saying, you know, was
Speaker 4: what what was what happened with the offense and team
Speaker 4: at last Saturday?
Speaker 2: And aberration didn't then a you figure something out?
Speaker 4: Did they not try to show very much you know
Speaker 4: with him after all that he did? Because really on
Speaker 4: on in the first game, you know, you're trying out
Speaker 4: some things and they just all happened to work. Right now,
Speaker 4: you know, you showed that to to everybody who's gonna
Speaker 4: look at your film. You gotta do some different things
Speaker 4: and maybe they again, maybe they just did call the
Speaker 4: plays they needed to call to win.
Speaker 3: So yesterday year you you admitted that you spent a
Speaker 3: lot of time watching team at great his body always
Speaker 3: going back and forth, and you're okay with all that.
Speaker 3: So I found myself looking at uh at u zero
Speaker 3: God my justin flow, justin flow. I just had his
Speaker 3: name and I just faced it. Uh, he's a crazy man.
Speaker 3: Is not special teams is not. He's going and just
Speaker 3: trying to burrow everybody, anybody and anybody he can.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 2: The thing is that kicking it.
Speaker 3: Out of the end so and have a chester. But
Speaker 3: he's he's not a pretty good description. Yeah, yeah, he's
Speaker 3: out there, sa crazy guy. He wants to play obviously,
Speaker 3: and then he gets that penalty on the the kickoff
Speaker 3: or the past punt.
Speaker 2: Wherever getting Oh he ran over he ran over the receiver. Yeah,
Speaker 2: called a fair catch and he ran him over, right,
Speaker 2: That was like that.
Speaker 3: And the first thing I'm thinking with the guy, I
Speaker 3: was watching the game with him, thinking, and that's why
Speaker 3: he doesn't play. And he has all that ability or
Speaker 3: he has that ability I'll say ability.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he has a ton of ability.
Speaker 13: He just.
Speaker 4: I guess that the way you put it, he's a
Speaker 4: lot of control, a little or a lot of out
Speaker 4: of control.
Speaker 2: A lot out of control. Yeah, they just got And
Speaker 2: how do you contail that? You don't?
Speaker 4: I don't know because if you if you could tail it,
Speaker 4: then you lose, you lose, you lose him overall, right,
Speaker 4: So maybe that's that's why he's on special team because's
Speaker 4: running around with his hair on fire. And but you again,
Speaker 4: occasionally he's gonna he's gonna do what he did Saturday night,
Speaker 4: and he's going to take out a receiver who caught
Speaker 4: a fair, fair catch on a punt and it's a
Speaker 4: fifteen yard penalty right now. He didn't hit him hard,
Speaker 4: but he just didn't stop and he ran him and
Speaker 4: he ran him over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, no, And that's the one thing that
Speaker 3: he needs to figure it out.
Speaker 4: We got a call. Okay, we're on the air, right,
Speaker 4: you're on there and on the ball. Hello, maybe not
Speaker 4: do we have his mic on? We're so all right
Speaker 4: obviously figuring this out. Hello, are you there?
Speaker 3: No, Tony, if you can hear us, Tony, come on in.
Speaker 3: But he's still there, Tell him to hang on. We'll
Speaker 3: get to Yeah, go ahead and talk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta yeah, we gotta figure this out. So,
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna try and instruct you from here because
Speaker 4: you the last one with Troy called in, So stand
Speaker 4: by if you're if you're on if you're on the phone,
Speaker 4: stand by, we'll get this figured out.
Speaker 2: We're going to take your calls.
Speaker 4: But you know, getting back to to justin flow, I
Speaker 4: think that what what's what's happened? Is he uh, you know,
Speaker 4: he's got to he's got to figure that out.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. Maybe this is who he's going
Speaker 2: to be. Okay, now are you on the air?
Speaker 15: I'm still here.
Speaker 2: Who's this?
Speaker 15: Hey?
Speaker 12: Test test one too, man, George.
Speaker 3: George, thanks man, thanks for calling in. You're one of
Speaker 3: the first ones to do that.
Speaker 15: Thanks with your thoughts, right, I just wanted to be
Speaker 15: I wanted to be one of the first ones.
Speaker 2: There you go, man, we got to It took a while,
Speaker 2: but we got figuring this out. So how's it going? Given?
Speaker 2: Tell tell us what's on your mind? God?
Speaker 15: Uh, what do you guys think about us being too?
Speaker 12: And oh?
Speaker 15: I mean, I know you guys didn't like the way
Speaker 15: it happened.
Speaker 12: But then I also want to.
Speaker 13: Talk about.
Speaker 12: You know, but okay, let's let me let's let's let's
Speaker 12: go there first.
Speaker 2: First, did you George did listen to us yesterday?
Speaker 13: No?
Speaker 3: I guess okay, So we talked a little about that yesterday,
Speaker 3: trying to get some rulings on what happened through the
Speaker 3: cops view, right, did you see the research of the videos? No,
Speaker 3: it was not good. They pulled them out. They pulled
Speaker 3: them out physically. It didn't look good for both ends.
Speaker 3: We'll find out who was right. George, what did you see?
Speaker 12: Well, what I thought is what he said.
Speaker 15: Okay, so from what I heard, I mean, you know,
Speaker 15: I'm listening to guys like you on the radio, and
Speaker 15: from what I heard is Tyreek said to the cops, Hey,
Speaker 15: I don't want to like, I don't want to make
Speaker 15: people famous from letting them take my picture through my window.
Speaker 13: So here's my so, here's my ID.
Speaker 15: Just give me the just please give me the ticket
Speaker 15: and I'll go away. And that's when the cops started saying, no,
Speaker 15: you need to roll down your window, and Tyreek's like, no,
Speaker 15: I don't want to make those people famous. But if
Speaker 15: you're driving a four hundred million dollars or four hundred
Speaker 15: thousand dollars McLaren like, okay, you don't want to be famous,
Speaker 15: but you don't I mean, I mean like, I mean, like,
Speaker 15: just so then drive a Pinto.
Speaker 2: Or something, you know, what I mean that I had one.
Speaker 2: I had actually that's why had a man. That's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 15: You know, like you can't say you don't want to
Speaker 15: be in the limelight car.
Speaker 3: So George, knowing what you know, not that this is
Speaker 3: public opinion, but your opinion, where do you lean?
Speaker 15: I lean that they're that that all of them.
Speaker 16: Are sort of Uh that's what I say, because what
Speaker 16: he's doing is he's he's being obnoxious by saying, hey,
Speaker 16: leave me alone.
Speaker 15: I don't want to be in.
Speaker 2: The public eye.
Speaker 15: That's what he told the cops, and the cops said,
Speaker 15: you're driving that kind of car in the public eye.
Speaker 2: I don't care about your public Yeah.
Speaker 15: Like yeah, so like, uh, Jay, you drive a Lexus,
Speaker 15: trust me, I listened to the show.
Speaker 12: Yeah you know what I mean, Like, hey, you want.
Speaker 15: To drive a Lexus, people are going to look you
Speaker 15: know what I mean. So like like if you like,
Speaker 15: if you want to be that, well then you got
Speaker 15: then you're that Like you want you want to race
Speaker 15: the guy from the Olympics, Well then yeah, you're trying
Speaker 15: to be in the public eye.
Speaker 12: But then when you when.
Speaker 15: The public eye comes to you, then you're upset.
Speaker 12: Well that doesn't that doesn't count.
Speaker 15: You can't do that.
Speaker 4: It looks I think, Yeah, I think to me, it's
Speaker 4: one of those things. It's going to turn out that
Speaker 4: there's fault on both sides. Yeah, they both escalated this
Speaker 4: thing in got it became way much more than needed
Speaker 4: to be.
Speaker 2: And you know, you just hope it goes away. You know,
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I hope it goes away. And I'm not a
Speaker 15: I'm not a anti copping anyway, and I'm also not
Speaker 15: an anti athlete. You know, I'm listening to sports talk radio. Yeah, man,
Speaker 15: I just wanted to call and say hello and just
Speaker 15: give a little take on whatever that was. Well, thanks,
Speaker 15: I'm happy for you guys, and.
Speaker 13: You in your new uh your new digs.
Speaker 3: Thanks George, like you were the first. Thank you appreciate it, man,
Speaker 3: And it took a little while, but the first.
Speaker 12: Have a good dick, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think there's more to come obviously with Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think both sides are going to be I think
Speaker 3: the cops gonna be in trouble. Uh.
Speaker 2: The coach.
Speaker 3: The coach had like a five minute little diatribe of
Speaker 3: you know, we don't know what it is to be
Speaker 3: black or he does not know what to be black.
Speaker 4: So there right, and you know, and I was listening
Speaker 4: to conversation that Dan Patrick was having on this this morning,
Speaker 4: and he was talking about some of his former colleagues
Speaker 4: at at ESPN. You know, a guy like John Saunders,
Speaker 4: you know, African American guy who was you know, uh,
Speaker 4: one of one of their anchors and then one of
Speaker 4: their producers, both of them who drove very nice cars.
Speaker 4: They worked late at night, and they were always concerned
Speaker 4: about getting pulled over because they were black guys in
Speaker 4: nice cars.
Speaker 2: And they called it d.
Speaker 4: W B and that they had concerns about that, that
Speaker 4: they were afraid about getting pulled over because because they
Speaker 4: were driving these nice cars. And then how often were
Speaker 4: they getting pulled over just because they were black guys
Speaker 4: in a nice car. Whether whether you like it or not,
Speaker 4: that's a thing now, you know the the But then
Speaker 4: on the flip side of that, if you are African
Speaker 4: American and you do get pulled over, what do you do?
Speaker 4: You know, how much trust do you have? And if
Speaker 4: you you know, how much do you comply? Did you comply?
Speaker 4: You know, you know there's things that you're worried about.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 4: We could go and open up a can of worms
Speaker 4: on this, and I really don't want to the problem.
Speaker 4: The issue is that we don't know, Steve, you don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know what it's like to be Tyreek Hill
Speaker 4: in the three. I think I heard the cars worth
Speaker 4: three hundred and thirty thousand dollars and you get pulled
Speaker 4: over by some cops like that.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm very naive to that car. I don't even know
Speaker 3: what the heck it was three hundred and three. I
Speaker 3: need that for my retirement.
Speaker 4: Were driving that car? Yeah, just give me the car
Speaker 4: and I'll sell it. I'm good for I'm good for
Speaker 4: the rest of my life.
Speaker 2: I'll see before Yeah, you won't see me for a
Speaker 2: few years.
Speaker 4: Wow, all right, we gotta we got to head out.
Speaker 4: Uh we were at the top of our hour. We're
Speaker 4: gonna come back. Uh, what's Ryan. Ryan's gonna have some
Speaker 4: breaking news. There's lots of it, some new stuff on
Speaker 4: a quarterback that's been in trouble before, and so we'll
Speaker 4: we'll get into that a little bit.
Speaker 2: So ready, Yeah, all right, let's take our break. We'll
Speaker 2: be right back