Speaker 1: Hello Shirley fans, and welcome back to the Shirley You
Can't Be Serious Podcast. We have had a battle of
machines this morning already.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, sometimes you win, sometimes the machines win.
Speaker 1: We are on my computer today because Jason's computer not working.
Speaker 2: At least I didn't try to kill me though, right,
that's the good news.
Speaker 1: Right, So welcome back. We are in the midst of
something that I would like to call the James Cameron
shows us how to do a sequel series. We have
just finished up with Alien and Aliens and we are
just beginning Terminator and Terminator Too, where James Cameron comes
out for the second swing and knocks it out of
the park.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited to talk about this movie now.
Speaker 1: Before the movies, yeah, before we got into this series,
we had our nineteen eighty four series where we covered
a whole lot. We had albums, we had movies, we
had all kinds of stuff. But today we're going back
to nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 2: That's right. If you haven't been catching up on current
events PLL. We did Born in the USA versus Sports Yep.
We did Ghostbusters versus Gremlins. We did Footloose Versus Purple Rain, Yes,
movie and soundtrack. Yes, we spent eight weeks in nineteen
eighty four. It was great, and now we get a
chance to revisit it today.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So imagine that summer, right, all of those things
in your life that were going on. You're listening to
I Want a New Drug. You're listening to Let's Go Crazy, Yes, Yes,
And you're listening to Let's Hear It for the Boy, Right,
and then you're gonna go watch Bill Murray and Dan
Aykroyd blow up some ghosts.
Speaker 2: Who are you gonna call?
Speaker 1: Ray Parker Jr. I like to talk to you about
your song that you stole from me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: But while all of that was going on, the other
thing that was going on in Los Angeles was the Olympics.
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Speaker 3: Whack it, that's right. I think I just posted on
Facebook two days ago that it was the thirty seventh
anniversary of the opening ceremonies of the LA Coliseum Olympic Games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and as it turns out, this movie was filmed
kind of in and around all that stuff going on.
Speaker 1: Right, so as everybody's preparing for those ceremonies, like in
early summer, before it all begins, a young thirty year
old director is with a newly dubbed movie star named
Arnold Schwarzennigger in the backstreets of the suburbs of Los
Angeles and they are driving a station wagon and it's
just Jim and Arnold and a camera. No MIC's know nothing.
They get out of the car and he's like, okay,
we need to kind of whoa do you hear a siren?
And Arnold's like yeah, and he's like, okay, well we
need to kind of hurry. He's like, it's something wrong.
He's like, yeah, we don't really have any permits to shoot,
which is something you have to have in LA. You
have to have a permit to be filming a movie, right,
And so he's like, do we need permits and he's like,
we don't have any money for permits, so no, we don't. Yeah,
and so they park the car and Jim gets out
and he's like, Okay, I want you to go over
there and punch the glass out of that window.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Arnold's like, uh, Jim, I'm kind of a
movie star. You know, people might recognize me, right, not
to mention I'm a big guy.
Speaker 1: It's not like you are subtle, right, You're six' five
with two hundred and thirty pounds of, muscle mister olympia
punching out. Windows he's, like is this real glass or
is this movie? Glass he's, like just go do, it,
man just go do. It and so, yeah they quickly
filmed this last little bit of gorilla footage Where arnold looks,
around punches the glass, out and steals the station. Ware
awesome but before we get, there we need to go
back even.
Speaker 2: Further, okay what day is?
Speaker 4: It the?
Speaker 1: Dates, Well, thursday what?
Speaker 2: Year.
Speaker 1: Okay so interestingly we talked when we were talking about
alien versus, aliens we talked About dan O'Bannon and his,
history and one of the things that he did was
that he faked A ufo landing with his. Dad, yeah, yeah,
Yeah and oddly, Enough James cameron kind of had a similar.
Experience do you remember. This when he was a young,
boy he was very much into science and science. Fiction
the first thing his dad was happy. About the second,
thing his dad was not happy about, it also similar
To Dan. Obannon and so he decides to impress his
dad something he's learned in. School he's going to heat
up air and make a hot air, balloon and so
he and his brother and a couple of friends get.
Together they light this thing. Up it starts. Floating he's so,
proud and then all of a sudden they lose. Control
it catches. Fire it starts flying across the, sky and
they're lucky that they didn't set any houses or fields on.
Fire BUT i mean they're having to ride their bikes
to chase it down and it makes the news the next.
Speaker 2: Day, hey, dad did you hear about that fireball THAT
i said and drifted around and almost burned down the?
Neighborhood that was?
Speaker 4: Me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah his dad was none too happy about, That.
Speaker 2: BUT i was using the scientific method to make it.
Speaker 1: Work, yeah he was. Mad James cameron has a science
fiction book in his. Hand his dad gets, mad takes
the book, away throws it, away so don't be reading
this crap, anymore And james just sneaks out about that my,
night gets it out of the trash and continues his.
Quest but his whole life he's spent trying to impress his.
Speaker 5: Dad.
Speaker 1: Right one nice thing that they did do, together, though
was they learned how to scupid dive that would.
Speaker 2: Come into play in about every movie from the abyss.
Speaker 1: On yeah there you. Go. Okay So james was this
really bright student and he ultimately went to, college didn't
like it and decided to. Quit he lived out in
a suburb Of hollywood Called, brea which wasn't a particularly big.
School he had been From canada, originally and he made
a couple of friends out there Named.
Speaker 2: William wisher And Randy.
Speaker 1: Frakes, right and these guys are all into.
Speaker 2: Movies that's. Right they go See Star wars.
Speaker 1: Together, Yeah randy's a little bit, Older bill's a little bit.
Younger So jim has dropped out of. College he is
driving a truck working as a. JANITOR i mean he's
cleaning gum off of the bottom of desks and delivering
cafeteria food to the local. School his dad's not. Happy,
yeah AND i haven't quite found his way, yet, Right
but he does know that he loves, movies and so
what he does is he goes over to THE usc
library and studies books like he's getting HIS usc education
on his.
Speaker 2: Own he like checks out dissertations and stuff from his.
Speaker 1: Students, yeah when people do a research study on, films
he'll go get their study and read what they've written
because he, knows, like these are guys my age who
are doing the. Stuff this is WHAT i would be.
Speaker 5: Learning.
Speaker 1: Right, also near the area where they live is The Chinese.
Theater so in nineteen seventy, seven right about the time
that a guy Named George lucas is having a cheeseburger
across the, street he And randy And bill all go
see this movie. Together they buy their ticket nobody really
knows about this movie, yet like it's brand. New and
when they buy their, ticket she hands them a little,
badge like a little button and it Says may The
force be with. You and they're, like what is this
and she's, like it's kind of like a theme of the.
Speaker 2: Movie, yeah just a, little just minor. Thing it's not
gonna change.
Speaker 1: Pop culture or, anything, Right and so they go in
and they watch the movie And James cameron has changed.
Forever he, SAYS i know WHAT i want to do.
NOW i had an, idea but now That i've seen
what this guy can. Do and he WAS i, mean
he was. Disturbed he was, like this is EVERYTHING i
wanted to, do And George lucas just did it. Better
and so what he does is he, says quit my.
Job we need to go find some investors and we
are going to make a. Movie they find, investors, dentists
some dentists looking to invest some. MONEY i wonder if
those guys ever got any return on.
Speaker 2: It they just wanted a tax shelter right.
Speaker 1: Here hold, this, yeah do.
Speaker 2: Whatever we don't really. Care we're just looking for a tax.
Speaker 1: Shelter so they make this twenty minute long movie. Ish
it's really like the beginning of something that's supposed to.
Continue like that was their, idea we'll make the beginning
of the movie and then we'll get funding for the
rest of the. Movie it's so similar to what he
ultimately ends up. Making. Right the beginning of the movie
has a lot of paintings that he, did including a
blue woman Like. Avatar and then you've got this guy
who's on this alien world and he starts to fight
with the alien and who comes out to save. Him
but this girl manually operating this larger, machine just like
out Of.
Speaker 2: Aliens, right even the robot has these tank like treads
that you see in Mull terminator And.
Speaker 1: Aliens, yeah absolutely check Out. Exogenesis you will be amazed
that like three guys who had never done a movie
before were able to accomplish what they accomplished with nineteen
seventies technology and only twenty thousand.
Speaker 2: Dollars it's really, Amazing.
Speaker 1: But unfortunately it doesn't turn into a full movie deal
for any of.
Speaker 5: Them.
Speaker 1: RIGHT i think what they ultimately got offered Was pillsbury
offered to let them make a commercial for.
Speaker 2: Them, yeah The pillsbury Dough.
Speaker 1: Boy, right if that was you and me and that.
Happened i'd be, Like, Pillsbury.
Speaker 2: Yes let's do.
Speaker 1: It but, yeah But James cameron's, like, no this is
not that's not. It that's not. It this is not
WHAT i came to. Do and so what he ends
up doing is taking the movie over To Roger corman's production.
Theater he takes it over, there shows it to them and,
says will you give me a? Job and they, say,
sure we need a production. Designer why did you come?
On and you can help design sets and do some
of that. Stuff and so he gets the job that.
Way right about the same time that he got his,
job this lady Named gail and heard just graduates From
stanford and she gets a job As Roger corman's. Assistant
talked a.
Speaker 2: Little bit about this in Our Alien Versus aliens episode last.
Week so he gets on With Roger. Corman he's working
as a production. Designer they hire this guy off the
street Named bill Past.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah He's. Bill paxson's, like, Hey i'd like to
submit an. Application he's, like grab a paint, brush go
bay that. WALL i haven't got the job. Yet he's, like, ah,
SORRY i just go paint the, wall you're.
Speaker 2: Good, yeah we'll worry about that.
Speaker 1: Later and So Gail Ann hurd comes in because she
wants to check around and see what's going. On she's
the new assistant and when she comes, In james is
so in charge of everything that's going. On she thinks
he's the production, manager like the special effects, guy like
he's the. Guy and as it turns, out she finds
out later it's not. Him it's this other dude who's
doing a crap. Job and so she goes back To
Roger corman and basically, says, well the guy that you
have in charge isn't doing, anything but this other, guy
who is just a lowly nothing, guy he's running the, show.
Right and so What Roger corman does is fire the
top guy and Bring james in to be the main.
Man and at that, point he was making two hundred
dollars per, week and he's, Like, ROGER i really appreciate the.
Promotion could you also give me a raise BECAUSE i
cannot survive on, this, Right And roger's, like, well, Yeah
i'll give you four, hundred And James cameron's, like that's
really kind of, you BUT i can't survive on. That
what was the guy before me Making he's, like, well
he was making seven. Fifty he, goes, well you're giving
me that. JOB i feel LIKE i should make seven.
Fifty And Roger corman's, like, well, yeah but you don't
have any. Experience he, goes, yeah the guy you just
fired who couldn't do anything had all the. Experience i'm
the one that's actually getting it. Done And Roger corman was,
like you're, right you can have the seven fifty a.
Week and so he ends up being a part of
another movie that you've, Seen God bless. You that was
a knockoff of the Movie Alien galaxy Of. Terror.
Speaker 2: Right we talked a little bit about how he was
in charge of the guy who had cut off his own,
arm and there was this shot where there were worms
on the arm and they wanted the worms to, wiggle
and the worms were just laying, there and so he
devised a plan to attach some electrical wires to the
prop arm and zap the crap out of those, worms
and they came to life and, wiggled and The italian
producers that were in the room observing, said that's the
guy we want for our next. Movie. Piranatu The spawning.
Speaker 1: If you haven't heard Our Alien Versus aliens, episode go
back and listen to. Those there's all kinds of good stories.
There but one of the good stories is another guy
who went to That chinese theater was a guy Named
Ridley scott who had just finished directing his first. Movie like,
Literally James cameron And Ridley scott saw the movie in
the same theater days.
Speaker 2: Apart they may have bought popcorn standing next to each.
Other you never, know you really don't, know you really don't.
Speaker 1: Know and so he went. On Ridley scott went on
to Direct alien that's coming up here in just a.
Minute That James cameron also becomes a super fan fanboy Of.
Alien and so they go off to film this movie
in The, caribbean And James cameron is going to have
his first experience as a, director the highly ANTICIPATED i
mean pretty sure some people camped out for tickets to
See Piranha.
Speaker 2: TuS he thought you were excited For, terminator two people
were fired up For. Paranatu this spawning, right except over
the course of the, movie as he's, filming he's cutting,
corners he's doing everything, Again he's working his butt. Off
he's actually painting rubber fish in his hotel room when
the guy comes in and fires.
Speaker 1: Him, yeah he's, like you're not getting you're not getting
the right, shots you're not doing. This he's, Like i'm
getting every. Amount he's, like you're spending too much. Time
i'm just saying in this. Thing and he's, like you
hired me to direct this. Movie why don't let me
direct this. Movie he's, like, no you're.
Speaker 5: Fired.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he learns later on that that was just
that guy's, play. Right he had been trouble for the
folks In italy and basically he couldn't have a picture
green lighted as a director. Himself it had to have
Some american attached to, it and so he just Used
James cameron as his.
Speaker 2: Ticket, yeah and he had done that. Before bring The american,
on get the, financing start the, Picture fire that, guy take,
over make your own.
Speaker 1: Movie so, again very similar to The Dan abandon, story,
right it, Is, hey come over, here we're gonna make this,
big great. Movie oh you're, fired send you, back and
you've got no place to. Live so in the busyness
of try and film all these, things he's staying up
all night. Long he's wearing himself, thin not, eating like
he's stealing bread off of the carts of.
Speaker 2: Outside in the. Hallway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he's he's in bad, shape and he ends
up getting sick and he has a, fever and so
in his sick, fever he has a.
Speaker 2: Dream so in this, nightmare, yea he is stalked by
this unstoppable killing machine robot from the. Future, yeah sound
relatively familiar to.
Speaker 1: You, yes it's called the. Firer no Fire it's called
The terminator because he had been. Fired he had been.
Terminated he was in a position where he was, Like
i've lost everything because this guy THAT i have no
control over just terminated. Me it's him against this thing
it looks like a human. Being he shoots it feels
like he's blown it, away and then this metal skeleton
with only the torso crawls out from the wreckage to
continue to try to hunt him down and kill.
Speaker 2: Him that's a MOVIE i would watch now before he
totally Leaves. Jamaica. Yeah one of the guys in the
Movie piranha too was this guy Named Lance, Hendrickson, yes
who played the.
Speaker 5: Sheriff.
Speaker 2: Right we talked about how in order to have his sheriff.
Badge they found a you, know save the whales little
ten little happy meal, toy, huh that they used.
Speaker 1: Turned, it turned it upside. Down AND i think they
bought the clothes of the guy who was selling the
butt selling the save The whales button, too because it
had like a stripe down the side that looked more
like a police uniform than whatever it was that they
had bought For Lance.
Speaker 2: Hendrickson James cameron paid for those pants out of his
own pocket as he's stealing bread from other people's trays
in the hallway at his.
Speaker 1: Hotel, Right so he And lance developed a good relationship
during this and then he goes back, home and so
within just a short amount of, Time James cameron writes
this sixty page treatment slash script and he gets offered
money for it and gets he's offered a decent amount
of money for, it but with somebody else, directing And
randy is the one that, says, listen you can take this.
MONEY i mean this is good. Money it's like buy
a few houses kind of. Money he's, like you can
take this money and you'll be a. Screenwriter do you
want to be a? Screenwriter he's, like, NO i want
to be a, director and he, says then don't take the, money.
Right and so What James cameron ends up doing is
he Finds Gail, heard who has now formed her own production,
company is looking for, material and he, SAYS i want
you to produce this, script and she's, like this is.
AMAZING i would love to produce this. Script who do
you want to? Direct he goes, me as a matter of,
Fact i'm the only one that's allowed to direct. It she's,
like What he's, LIKE i will sell it to you
for a.
Speaker 2: Dollar one dollar has.
Speaker 1: To be on the condition THAT i get to. Direct
So James cameron And gailhard are now on a quest
to find somebody to finance this incredible idea that he's. At,
yes and nobody wants this guy who's never really directed
a movie in his life to direct this. Script and
so who they ultimately end up with is this, company
this production company out Of england Called.
Speaker 2: Hymndale, okay there's a STORY i want to tell in, Here.
Okay So jim And Gallien heard are, like we got
to go impress the pants off the people To. Hymndale,
Right so they call their Buddy Lance, hendrickson right and they, say,
listen we need your help to get this movie financed and.
Made would you please help us. Out we want you
to dress like a.
Speaker 1: Terminator, Right lance was supposed to be the, Terminator like
that was Who james had in mind to be the. Terminator.
Speaker 2: Yeah in, fact there are conceptual drawings of the. Machine
part of his skull in the other half Is Lance. Hendrickson, Right, Okay.
Speaker 1: And if you don't know Who Lance hendrickson.
Speaker 2: Is He's bishop Of.
Speaker 1: Aliens He's bishop Of.
Speaker 2: Aliens, Yes so they go To. Hymndale Lance henderson kicks
in the, door like knocks it off the, hinders like
bust the crap out of the, door scares the heck
out of everybody in the in the. Office, Yeah and they're, like,
sir can we help? You and he doesn't say. Ward
he's got those stoic sunglasses, on he's got gold foil
on his, teeth and he's dressed in combat attire and
he looks intimidating and menacing and he doesn't say a.
Word and they're about to like call the, cops get
this guy out of, here And James cameron comes in
and he's, like, hi, Everybody i'm.
Speaker 1: Here for my.
Speaker 2: Meeting don't mind.
Speaker 1: Me and my friend.
Speaker 2: Here he's just a, terminator, right and it makes an,
Impact oh for, sure it gets it freaking greenlit.
Speaker 1: And Him dale has just started to get into. Movies
they've previously managed bands Like yes And Black Sabbath Get
out Of.
Speaker 2: Town i'm not.
Speaker 1: Kidding as it turns, OUT i don't know if they're
the ones that Served Ozzy osbourne papers on stage OR
i tried to find that out BUT i couldn't find.
It if you don't know What i'm talking, about be
sure to go back and check out our history of
Oz Ozzy Osbourne No More tears Versus Aero Smith get A? Grip, okay, yeah,
yeah definitely go check those.
Speaker 2: Out those are fun. Episodes.
Speaker 1: Okay so they've got a budget at this, point and
now they need some. Actors you've got three main parts, here, right.
Yep you've Got Sarah, Connor you've got the, terminator and
you've Got Kyle, reese, yes the guy who's supposed to
Save Sarah. Conder, Right and so they consider several people
for these different, parts but one of the guys that they,
want what the production company wants For Kyle reese Is Arnold.
Speaker 2: Schwarzenegger, yes you heard that, right not The, terminator, Right Kyle.
Speaker 1: Reese. Right and So arnold gets a, script he reads,
it he likes, it And James cameron finds out that
they're considering, him and he's, like this is. TERRIBLE i
don't Want he's too, big he's not right at all
for this. Part and so he's talking To Bill wisher
And Randy frakes and they're, like what are you gonna?
Do and he's, LIKE i gotta go have lunch, Today,
Guys i'm gonna be picking a fight With Arnold. Schwarzenegger
so IF i don't make it, Back, randy you can
have my. Lamp, bill you can have the. Couch and
so he leaves and Meets arnold for lunch and they
start talking And arnold is immediately just this charming, guy
like he's he's, like, wow you're even bigger THAN i
thought you. Were and he's, like, Actually i'm much smaller
THAN i normally. AM i had to lose weight to
play these. Bodies and he's sincere.
Speaker 2: Right very, charming very likable.
Speaker 1: Guy and so they start talking and as they're, Talking
arnold keeps giving suggestions for The. Terminator he's, LIKE i
really love this. Terminator you, know he's got to be
like he's got to have no, emotion and it's given
all of these details and it's like clicking little links
In james's head and he's, like could you just be
still for me and stop talking for a. Second he's like,
What so he makes him be still and he draws
a picture right then and there Of Arnold schwarzenegger as The. Terminator.
Speaker 2: Brilliant and for those of you who don't, Know James
cameron is a gifted. Artist LIKE i, mean he's an amazing,
filmmaker but he can draw like nobody's.
Speaker 1: Business one of the ways that he survived after they
fired him From krona was they, said, hey will you
still paint the posters for?
Speaker 2: Us, right you were fired as the, director but how
about you draw the.
Speaker 1: Poster so he paints this picture Of arnold as The.
Terminator arnold was still building his movie career and he
really wanted to be the hero in all these, movies,
Right and something that remember there at, lunch something THAT
i learned in this process that if you happen to
be not the, actor if you're the director or the
producer or something like. That and you meet an actor for,
lunch it is your job to pay for, lunch, Right
And James cameron, SAID i forgot my, wallet the old
forgot my wallet, trick And arnold starts laughing and he's, like,
oh So Arnold swartzenegger has to pay for lunch on
the day that he's trying to get cast in this.
Movie and he would be the guy that made the,
movie of. Course but both guys go back and they're,
like we Want arnold as The. Terminator of, course arnold
agent tries to talk him out of. It he's, like, no, no,
no that's the, villain and he's, like chill. Out Dick
wad gets the title.
Speaker 2: Character it's the best, bark, right they're ONLY i think
there what seventeen lines is like twenty five.
Speaker 1: Words, yeah this.
Speaker 2: Is said by The. TERMINATOR i mean it's really, nothing,
yeah and it's mostly nice night for a, walk nothing, clean, right,
YEAH i mean it really doesn't say a, lot, Right
but he plays that character so, well launches him into.
Speaker 1: Superstar, okay so they're, greenlit they have The, terminator they
are ready to start, filming and.
Speaker 2: Our Buddy dino De larentiz steps in and, says you
cannot Have Arnold. SCHWARZENEGGER i want to make Another conan movie.
Speaker 1: First, yeah So conan had come out In may of
nineteen eighty, two just less than two years, before but
it Made arnold a star And dino De larentiz was
the one who had produced that. Movie but when you
do something like, that you have all these contractual provisions
so that if you want to do a, sequel you
have what are called preemptive. Rights and at this Point
Dala renna, Says i'm exercising my preemptive.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: Right, so think you're a starving. Director you've managed to
get a script, greenlit you've managed to secure the job as,
director you land a guy that's going to be a movie,
superstar And dino Day lorenzi steps in and, says you can't.
Speaker 1: Have it right for nine?
Speaker 2: Months for nine months, right while we go make this.
Speaker 5: Movie.
Speaker 1: Right so what happens actually ends up it's, serendipitous if you,
will because to buy the nine months that he has
to make a living so that he can, survive he
works on a couple of script. Projects one Is Rambo
First Blood part.
Speaker 2: Two most people don't realize That James cameron really Wrote.
Speaker 1: Rambo and then there were these guys from this production
company Called brandywine who, Said, hey we're looking at make
An alien part. Two are you interested in writing a?
Speaker 2: Script and he's, Like i've got just enough time to
do both of these WHILE i wait On Arnold. Schwarzenegger
we wait the nine, months and when it comes time
for production for A, terminator they've got to hire these three.
Speaker 1: Roles like you, said, yes they've already Got arnold as The.
Terminator i'll be back. Now they Need Kyle reese And Sarah.
Speaker 2: Connor, okay, now before we get too far down the,
LINE i want to bring up a couple of names
that were associated with The terminator before they Hired. Arnold,
okay this is really interesting. Stuff here are some of
the names that they considered for The. Terminator, Okay Tom,
selleck yeah, Sure, Okay Michael, Douglas Kevin.
Speaker 1: Kleine see, now when they Had Lance hendrickson as the
guy that they wanted to be the, terminator before people
started saying this is going to be a big enough
movie that we need a big star instead of somebody
that nobody's really heard of before he was supposed to
be an in and out guy and every Everyday joe
who could sneak in and out of a. Crowd and
so if you have in your head this, big hulking
guy needs to be the, terminator that's not what they
were looking at. Initially that all changed With, arnold that's.
Right and so, YEAH i mean those guys as an
everyman who could be in and. Out, sure, OKAY i
want to throw two names at.
Speaker 2: You they're going to blow you. Away. Okay, so going
on that premise that they wanted the everyman to be
able to slide in and out of society without being,
noticed he doesn't look like Mister. OLYMPIA a name that
actually was written down as a, Consideration Chevy chase as the.
Terminator can you? Imagine can you imagine?
Speaker 1: THAT i mean Just Chevy chase is a villain at? All? Right,
WOW i don't know AND i don't, know, man that'd be.
Speaker 2: Weird, okay here's the other name that will blow you.
Speaker 1: Away, OKAY. O.
Speaker 2: J simpson Was.
Speaker 1: I'm, sorry what was did you? Say The? Jews the?
Speaker 2: Juice the juice was considered for the role of the.
Speaker 1: Terminator, Okay and you know why he didn't get.
Speaker 2: It because they thought he was too nice a.
Speaker 1: Guy he's too nice, looking nobody would believe him as a. Killer.
Speaker 2: Irony they actually went so far as to have a
movie poster done HALF O.
Speaker 1: J simpson's face and half.
Speaker 2: Half, yes so those names, associated but but really this
Is arnold's. Role Now here are the names associated With Sarah,
Okay Rosanna, Arquette Jennifer Jason, Lee, Yeah Gena davis kind
of before she was, Known, yeah, okay And Devor.
Speaker 1: Winger oh.
Speaker 2: Okay now then names For reese ready for?
Speaker 1: This yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay Bruce willis.
Speaker 1: Really, yes he hadn't done anything that's Before. Moonlighting, yeah
which IS i, mean it's interesting Because arnold And bruce
later become very good. Friends as a matter of, fact
when we get TO t, Two arnold was supposed to
be going to Have christmas celebration With Bruce willis at
the time THAT t two was wrapping, up And James cameron, Said,
ARNOLD i need you to come. BACK i got a
film some. Stuff it didn't come out, right and So
arnold Spent Christmas day having the spike driven.
Speaker 2: Through his spike went.
Speaker 1: Through when he pulls the spike through that he was
filming On Christmas, day missing The christmas with his friend
Mister Bruce. Willis, wow who in nineteen eighty four was nobody?
Speaker 2: Right, Okay SO i thought that was Interesting Bruce. Willis
now then they have this guy Named Michael bean who
came in to. Audition he had been doing a play
Called cat on A Hot Tin. Roof, Yes and when
he came, in he still had A southern accent from that.
Speaker 1: Play, Yeah, Tennessee williams play All southern. Characters he'd been
working hard on That southern, accent.
Speaker 2: So race had a little bit of A southern. Accent
they didn't like that too.
Speaker 1: Much come with me if you want to, leave.
Speaker 2: You've been targeted for.
Speaker 1: Termination so, Yeah so they they call his agent back
and they, say, hey we really really Liked Michael bean's,
audition but you, know this guy can't have A southern.
Accent and his agent's, like he he's From. Nebraska what
are you talking. About they, Realized, oh he just still
had that hanging on from His cat on A Hot Tin.
Speaker 5: Roof.
Speaker 2: Prep here's the thing With Michael bean THAT i. Discovered
and if you've been following us On, facebook you're you're
catching up on this amazing stuff that we're finding. Out
Michael bean was In greece With John travolta as one
of the jocks on the basketball. Team he's actually the
guy who gets punched in the stomach By John travolta
when he's still in the basketball That's Michael. Bean that's.
Speaker 1: Crazy So Lance henrickson has to be kind of bummed.
OUT i mean he's gone and he's gotten this movie
green lit by busting through the door and pretending to
be the terminator in this production. Company and then he finds, out, well,
yeah you. Can't you can't be the, terminator and, no
we don't want you For cayler's. Either is there ANYTHING
i can? Do, yes we have a police. Officer oh
is he the main police. Officer, no he's like the
police officers main police officers.
Speaker 2: Helper he's got the second. Banana he gets. Shot it's,
Great it is.
Speaker 1: A great it's a great dynamic that those two actors.
Speaker 5: Have.
Speaker 1: Though So Lance hendrickson ends up getting the part Of,
vukovich who is like second in command To traxler who's
played By Paul. Winfield and those two guys have a great.
DYNAMIC i mean they both you believe that they're both
cops that have been worn down by years of in
and out. Nonsense they don't get excited about what's going
on at, all despite the fact that you're Getting Sarah
connor killed right After Sarah connor got, killed right WHICH
i gotta, say how do you not go to the third?
ADDRESS i, mean why are they calling? Her why are
they only calling? Her go to her?
Speaker 2: HOUSE i, know, man let's go. Lapd you know who
else we need to talk. About it's the guy who
plays Doctor. Silberman oh, Yeah Doctor zipperman Is Earl. Bowen
he recaptures that same sleazy Doctor field In terminator.
Speaker 1: To amplifies it. Completely we can't forget About Rick rossovich.
Either oh, Yeah Rick, Rossovich Rick rossovich From Roxanne rich
From Top Gun. GUN i, mean he's just this good
looking guy who also happens to be a pretty good,
actor and he does a fantastic love the, call the inappropriate,
talk and she and and And Sarah connor is, like you,
Know linda's kind of giggling at, this and you, know
and enjoying it a little bit before she lets the secret. Go,
First i'm going to tear off your.
Speaker 2: Clothes Oh, Hey, Sarah, SORRY i talk To ginger.
Speaker 1: And a hanger on from The Roger corman, days a
guy who was also In grimlins Because Joe dante was A,
Yeah Roger corman as. Well we've Got Dick miller in.
There he's the pawnshop dealer who's showing.
Speaker 2: All of the, guys, right that's.
Speaker 1: Right he's, like how are you going to pay for?
Speaker 2: This how you can't do that? Wrong you made me
mentioned to me the other day we glossed Over. Ginger
she didn't do a, lot but you, said what's your?
Speaker 1: Name Best?
Speaker 2: MATA i believe your comment to me was she has great.
Legs she had some great, legs giving it up To ginger's.
Speaker 1: Legs, yeah moving, on moving, on all.
Speaker 2: Right so that takes care of the cast On. Terminator,
yeah there's really not very many people in this.
Speaker 1: Movie, no it. Is it is a small, budget small,
cast incredibly produced. Film. Yep, okay fast forward nineteen ninety
nineteen ninety, Right so at this Point James cameron has Made.
Terminator he's followed it up With aliens, yep and he's
also followed it up With The. Abyss now after he Made,
aliens he got there were all kinds Of oscar, nominations,
Right Sigourney, weaver first actress to ever get nominated For
Best actress in a science fiction. Movie that's the first
time and it had ever. Happened, right sound, effects special,
effects all kinds of, nominations but two important nominations that didn't.
Happen No Best, director No Best. Picture Gailhard James cameron
watching this, happen. Devastated, Yeah and so they're Frustrated he's
achieved this amazing, movie like it's the biggest movie of
the year of nineteen eighty, six and he feels like
he's not getting any kudos. Whatsoever and his, father who
has been against this film career from the, beginning is
still disappointed in. Him he still feels like he hasn't
satisfied his. Dad so he's talking To Randy, frakes And
Randy frakes is, like who, Cares he, goes you, KNOW
i just don't know that this really means, anything and he's,
like of course it means. Something you can change people's
lives with, Movies, like, really we're really just telling a.
Story he's, like, no movies changed my. Life you can
change other people's. Lives, yeah and so the next movie
that we get After aliens Is The, abyss which is
where we See James cameron starting to have a bit
of a message behind what he's.
Speaker 2: Doing i'd love to talk About The abyst.
Speaker 5: Sometimes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely it's underappreciated and people kind of beat on
it a little.
Speaker 1: Bit it didn't do that, Well BUT i think it
had to be the fact That leviathan And Deep star
six had both come out that same year and they
were both total.
Speaker 2: Crap that those were total, crap total.
Speaker 1: Crap movies THAT i, mean they had, potential, RIGHT i
mean it was basically those were alien, underwater right. Right
What James cameron did was also sort of alien, underwater
but it was with. Beauty here's something's. Fascinating in the
original script Of The, terminator they were supposed to be
two terminator that's, fascinating one like we know that is
the robot, machine and one that is an almost unkillable liquid.
Metal James cameron toyed around the idea of doing Clay
nation and then ultimately decided we just don't have the
technology to make each.
Speaker 5: Word.
Speaker 2: Well, also we're going to go blow Up, cyberdine, Right,
yeah that was part of it as.
Speaker 1: Well. Yep, well once we get to The. Abyss, see
g has come so, far and if you've seen The,
abyss you know what they do with the water and
the faces and it is. Amazing and it is at
that point that he, says this is good enough THAT
i can have my liquid Metal.
Speaker 5: Terminator.
Speaker 2: YEAH i heard somebody say that The abyss was one
hundred million dollars dry round FOR t.
Speaker 1: Two that's.
Speaker 2: Good, Okay so they're gonna make the Next terminator. Movie
so here's the funny part about. This they call camera
and they're, like, hey we want you to do the
sequel for The. Terminator while you're thinking of the, story,
which by the, way we want out by Next july
nineteen ninety. One, Right we're gonna pull Stan winston And
Arnold schwarzenegger off Of Kindergarten cop for one day to
make a teaser. Trail so they pull them off Of
kindergarten cop for one day and they pull Stan winston
off Of Edward scissorhans and they make this incredible. Trailer
it's like the factory and they're pressing. Terminators oh, yeah
you Have arnold and he comes out he's got The
Red eyes muscled, out and all that teaser trailer was
to tell you that All terminators look Like Arnold. Schwarzenegger
so the fact that the one that you killed in
nineteen eighty four doesn't. Matter he's coming. Back, yeah he'll be.
Speaker 1: Back he'll be.
Speaker 2: Back so when the studio comes To cameron and, says
we want to make the Sequel terminator. Too we want
you to go for, It he's, like, Awesome i'm ready
to dive. In so he calls his Buddy Bill wisher
and he, says here's the good, News terminator two is.
Greenlit here's the bad, news we're already three months behind. Schedule.
Okay so once they get started on the, story he
has to Convince arnold that he's going to be the
good guy this, time Which arnold's fine, with but he
also convinces, Him you're not gonna kill a single person
in this.
Speaker 1: MOVIE i SWEAR i would not kill, anyone.
Speaker 2: Right And arnold's, like wait a, Minute wait a, Minute,
Jim I'm. DETERMINATOR i have to kill. People he's, like,
no not going to kill one single, person and he's,
like just trust, ME i will still make you the
Awesome terminator you just don't kill. Anybody and so that
took some selling For, Arnold, Right so they take the
technology that they use on THE abyss to make THE
t one.
Speaker 1: Thousand, YEAH i mean it's more than, that like basically to.
KNOW i, mean when you look at THE t one,
thousand there's a lot more going on than just a water. Image.
Right the technology didn't. Exist he had to create, it
like he was a part of the process that created this,
amazing AMAZING.
Speaker 2: CGI i read That Industrial lights And magic had to
hire thirty five more people just to complete this.
Speaker 5: Movie.
Speaker 2: Right so, yeah now you have two, Terminators you Bring
Sarah connor, back you introduce a new, character Young John, connor,
right and now the target's Not sarah, anymore It's john, Right,
okay so Young John. Connor and so they bring in
all these actors and they started interviewing these. Kids but
these are not, tough street wise. Kids these are all kid, actors,
Right none of them are any tough soft they're. Soft
you have to believe this.
Speaker 1: KID i wonder If Dan cooksey was initially up for
the part Of john.
Speaker 2: O'Connell i don't.
Speaker 1: Know so if you guys don't know Who John cookxie
is if you Watched Different strokes when The First, Kids,
yeah Whenever Gary coleman got really too old to be cute,
anymore they brought in a little white kid to be
the cute, kid and that Was Dan. Cooksey he's the
guy who's Like John connor's best friend who's out there
riding on his motorcycle and stealing stuff from THE atm.
Speaker 2: Machine Dan cooksey is the one when they go to
the arcade and they're Playing Missile, command which is about
a it's a game where you have to defend yourself
against nuclear. War. Yeah kind of.
Speaker 1: Ironic. Yes and also if you don't remember him from the,
movie he had the penultimate. Mullet it was.
Speaker 2: Awesome it is a great. Mullet so they go to
the boys club like the ymcah and start looking at
kids like regular la. Kids, yeah And jim comes across
this kid Named Edward furlong and he really likes, him.
Yep and he brings him in and he, says, Hey,
eddie we really like what which you've. Got he's, like
have you ever acted in anything? Before and ed he,
Says i've been in some family home videos and he's
apparently this is What Edward furlong still says when they
ask him about his acting. History he's, Like i've been
in family. Videos, yeah so that was kind of the.
Clincher they all, laughed thought that was, funny and that's
when they settled On Edward. Furlong. Yeah he's had a
little personal drama since. Then he's been in some, stuff
but he Was John.
Speaker 5: Carr.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well and it's interesting because during the production of this,
movie his voice changed and he grew about six.
Speaker 2: Inches they had to dig holes so that he would
be taller than people at the end of the.
Speaker 5: Movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah to maintain a height relationship With Linda. Hamilton
they had to stick him in a hole because he
was at one time shorter but became taller than her
during the.
Speaker 2: Picture, yep he was supposed to be playing a ten year.
Old he was actually. Thirteen, yeah which is why his
voice changes.
Speaker 1: Too and why you don't cast. THIRTEEN i know his
voice has already.
Speaker 2: Changed you. Know the the kid From What About bob And.
Hook his name Is Charlie. Cosmo, yeah he's actually we
talked about. Him he's like a professor.
Speaker 1: Professor.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah they offered him the role Of John, connor but
he couldn't accept because he was In What About?
Speaker 5: Bob?
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah sat, gosh that's weird to think that these
movies were at the same.
Speaker 2: TIME i, know, Right, OKAY i really want to talk
about THE t one. Thousand, yes so now that you
have to find somebody who's menacing but different Than, arnold right.
Right they actually considered the idea of Bringing Michael bean,
back and he was going to be THE t one,
thousand the Liquid. Metal how cool with?
Speaker 1: That that would have been. Fantastic but he's gotta be
pissed they kill him off For alien three and then
he finds. Out he's, like, oh this will be. GREAT
i get to be the. Guy oh, no they. Don't
they think it's going to confuse the. Audience that's why they, said,
No Michael, bean it's going to be confused because because we're.
STUPID i guess.
Speaker 2: Right, oh he was the good. Guy now he's the bad.
Speaker 5: Guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah that would have been really. Cool, yeah and to
see the emotions Of sarah Had Michael bean been the liquid. Terminatory,
okay So Michael bean thought about. It he's, out he's.
Out next idea is bring another version Of arnold back
and It's arnold Versus. Arnold it's, interesting, sure but it's
similar to the scenes at the end of the, movie
like when you have Two Sarah connors on screen, together
who DO i trust which one is? Which but they, said,
Nope i'm not going to do. That we're gonna start
fresh and bring a new person in to. Act, okay
now here are the people that they thought about for
THE t one.
Speaker 5: Thousand Billy.
Speaker 1: Idol he's got the angular, features he looks a lot
Light Robert. Patrick, yeah, YEAH i mean he's.
Speaker 2: beIN he's you, know got the high cheek bones and
the cool. Haircut, yeah you, know rock The cradle Of, love,
Right but he couldn't do it because he was in
that terrible motorcycle. Accident oh that's.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah so he.
Speaker 2: Had to bow. Out, okay here's the other person that they,
Wanted Blackie, lawless the lead singer for the rock Band.
Wasp they looked at.
Speaker 1: Him that is a deep, cut my, friend you know
who that. Is he's like six' four. And, huge yeah
he's but like, hyper intelligent but also kind Of The
marilyn manson of the. Early nineties.
Speaker 5: That's.
Speaker 2: True yep they didn't hire him because he was. TOO
tall i thought that was. Really interesting so they said
it on this Guy Named. Robert patrick are you the
legal Guardian Of? John? Connor right who had Been In? Diehard?
Speaker 1: Too right that was where they saw Him Die. Hard
too and his Appearance In diehard too is so fast
that if you blink, A.
Speaker 2: MISSAGE yeah i call bs. On, this okay something else
they fell. To him they liked him, or whatever but
he was really a DISTANT third i, think.
Speaker 1: Probably and he's done some good stuff, since then but
he was unknown at.
Speaker 2: THE time i forgot to, mention one it's gonna blow your.
Skirt up you're ready?
Speaker 5: For?
Speaker 1: THIS okay i love. My Skirt, b right this.
Speaker 2: Is gonna blow your. Skirt up who they thought about
FOR the t?
Speaker 1: One? Thousand Okay?
Speaker 2: Stephen segal wow? About that that would have.
Speaker 1: Been interesting, oh yeah those fight scenes would have Been much.
Speaker 2: The fight scenes would have. Been cool But Watching stephen
sagall run is one of the WORST things i have. Ever, seen.
Speaker 1: Okay so i'll throw this. In Now, robert patrick once
he had, the part he trained. On running he knew
that he had to run a bunch and one idea
that he had about the character was that he would
look around like a bald eagle Like his his eyes
would look and then his head. Would follow that was
the way That he that was the way that he
did the. Head movements but for, the running he knew
that from the waist up he had to be, completely
mechanical like it was like pump, pump pump looks, very
fluid didn't matter what was happening with. His legs he
had to be. Very fluid but he also knew he
had to be, fat asked and so he trained and
trained to get as fast as he could because he's
supposed to be like the. Speedy, guy yeah by the
time they got, to filming he could easily catch Up
With edward furlong on. The motorcycle, he, Could yeah and so,
they're like could you just run a. LITTLE slower.
Speaker 2: I heard that They're Trailing eddie furlong on. A trailer
they got the mop head on a Trailer And edward furlong,
is like WHAT do i do if he? Catches me and,
they're like he won't. Catch you and the next thing
happened was he tapped him on. The, shoulder, HI there
i am.
Speaker 1: Pull over, a cardigan but thanks for.
Speaker 2: Asking one more name. For you the Character Of. Miles,
dyce yes he's the head computer Guy at cyberdine who
eventually builds sky in d and all. That stuff.
Speaker 1: How MUCH longer i want to be able to pull?
Speaker 2: This? Up yeah that guy They Wanted. Denzel washington, oh
wow how? About that THAT was.
Speaker 1: I mean glory had come out at, That Point so denzel,
was somebody but. He wasn't He wasn't.
Speaker 2: He WASN'T Capital D. Denzel, washington yeah and so his
quote on THIS was i read the script AND what
i saw this role doing was just all he did
was look scared and sweat.
Speaker 1: Nailed. It yep and that's Why he's denzel with A,
capital d because that's exactly what this, character. Does right.
He's smart we see him, be smart and then we
get the reveal on the chip and the hand that we're, just,
like oh so we're not paying attention to him. At
all and, then yeah the next time we, see him
he's getting shot from behind and sweating and panting for
the rest of.
Speaker 2: His time remove, our hat put your hand over. Your
Heart miles dyson is the true Hero of. Terminator two
he sacrifices himself to Change. The, future yeah AND then
t three craps all. Over, that yeah we, Salute You.
Speaker 1: Miles, dyson YEAH so i want to touch on that. Real,
Quick okay so when we Were doing ALIEN we I
mean i looked at a lot of Stuff That james
cameron had said and he, basically said, You know i'm.
Coming on they Didn't ask griutly to. Do this i'm.
Coming On and ridley was pissed and He goes and
it WASN'T until t three And the terminators that followed
that are really understood where he was, coming FROM because
i saw somebody else playing in my sandbox and it. Was,
DISTURBING yeah i can definitely. Understand, that yeah but like
we said About the aliens that Occurred after Aliens That james,
cameron made those don't meet. Our criteria you're.
Speaker 2: Not discussing you can take All Those, Salvation Genesis, dark
FATE especially, t three put them in a.
Speaker 1: Giant pile you can put them in a compressor and
you can hit the button and crush them.
Speaker 2: To death, that's right and we. Pull up we're gonna
knew the whole thing. From existence.
Speaker 1: So who ends up getting the Part Of miles dyson
is this Actor Named, joe morton who's been in quite
a bit, of stuff but he's most RECENTLY that i,
know of been in this Movie Called.
Speaker 2: Justice league, oh yeah He is.
Speaker 1: Cyborg's dad and, you know you still haven't Seen the
snyder Cut Of, justice league which is a travesty because
it is so many more times greater than the just weedon. Theatrical,
Nonsense right he's got a much bigger part in. This
one and, to mention by, the way we Discuss the
snyder cut in detail on our other Podcast Called podcast Full.
Of kryptonite be sure and go check that one out.
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now back to the casting, we Had That's. Miles dyson
we also had one of my favorite Actresses from aliens
back in, this movie who's she's been in a Ton
Of james. Camera movies And That's. Jeanette goldstein she gets
to play the part of the.
Speaker 2: Foster, mom okay wait, a minute let's let's not glaze. Over.
That yeah the woman Who plays Vasquez and aliens Yep
Is john connor's. Foster. Mom yep she's, nearly unrecognizable.
Speaker 1: Doesn't look the same, at all, different accent, has freckles not,
all tanded DIFFERENT race i, mean, HAIR yeah I mean and.
The husband his Name Is, xander, berkley right He. Plays,
todd yeah and he's this kind of. Deadbeat guy but
he Was In air force One With harrison ford as the, bad,
guy right like he's The special agent. Bad.
Speaker 2: Guy yeah he was in the first season of twenty
Four With. Keith ersolin he's been in.
Speaker 1: A lot we have a Guy Named michael edwards who
Plays Old john connor at the beginning of, the movie
the guy with the scars on.
Speaker 5: His.
Speaker 1: Face yeah He Dated priscilla presley for a. Long time
when they finally, broke up he wrote a Book, Called
elvis Priscilla, and me which was a take on hers
book which Was called Elvis and, me basically what do
you do when you're the Guy dating. Elvis's, widow, right yeah. You're,
nobody yeah but he was his male model who hooked
Up With. Priscilla presley, he said nice beaver and she,
SAID thanks i just had. To, Stopped, Yes winner and
then We Have earl bowen back again As, doctor siverman
going even slimier than he Was in. Terminator one he broke.
Speaker 2: My arm there are two hundred and six bonds in the.
Speaker 1: Human body.
Speaker 2: That's one, all, right due let's take a. Quick break
we're going to do our. New thing this is Called
The Shirley. Fan salute so we reached out to one
of our, good Friends Mister, james buckley and we, just,
said hey let's talk about an episode that we've done
before that. You like te us what. You Think way
in on our, final judgment he wanted to weigh In
On fright Night Versus. Lost boys here's what he had.
Speaker 4: To say what, Is happening jason And d This Is
james buckley coming at.
Speaker 5: You, From. Minuroe louisiana were the only thing.
Speaker 4: Worse than the traffic is usually. The, traffic anyway it
is a huge honor to be asked a way in
on an earlier episode and The episodes i'm choosing are
not very, seasonally appropriate but there were. Great, episodes nonetheless
it was where you guys had a Showdown Between The
lost Boys And. Fright night, Straight up i'll, Tell you
i'm a huge horror, movie fan and if you liked
the scary stuff, like me there was no better era than.
Speaker 5: The eighties so many great movies were released.
Speaker 4: In, a decade including the two we're talking, about today
which were released with a two year span and are
also my two favorite.
Speaker 5: Vampire movies we'll start Off With The. Lost boys, FIRST
off i love. This movie in.
Speaker 4: My opinion it's the perfect artistic representation of the. Nineteen eighties,
the clothing, the hairstyles. The music it's all over, the, top,
bright FUN everything i remember about. The eighties and it
was a great horror movie, as well with plenty, of
scars great practical, special effects and Key for sutherlin doing
a particularly great job as. A vampire, in fact if
it weren't for the existence of the other movie we're talking,
about today this.
Speaker 5: Would be my favorite. Vampire Movie But fright night.
Speaker 4: Does exist and it does win the top spot, with
me mostly because of the Performance Of chris Sarandon As.
Speaker 5: Jerry dandridge he added a lot of character to. The
vampire he didn't go to the bell to go.
Speaker 4: See route there was No Fake eastern, european accent no hiding.
Speaker 5: In. Shadows no he portrayed.
Speaker 4: The vampire as, a smooth suave, lady killer but literally
and figuratively even more sweater to.
Speaker 5: The disco for.
Speaker 4: Heaven's sake they're great supporting performances, as Well Particularly, steven
jeffries who played the best Friend.
Speaker 5: Of petragonists he was really Good as.
Speaker 4: Evil d we won't discuss cinematic pursuits after, this movie.
Speaker 5: But anyway he did a great. Job here it's a.
Speaker 4: Close competition when it comes down, TO it i have
To Give friday night the. Top SPOT so i NOTE
when i was a junior in, high school a guy
who opened a video store in, our town and of
course he looked Just Like.
Speaker 5: Billy, cale billy if, you Remember Was cheery.
Speaker 4: Dandridge's sidekick we never knew if he was a zombie
of vampire, or what but this guy would just like
him so much that you almost felt a little nervous
going into his store. After, dark thankfully he left town
the store shut DOWN before i could find out if
he was hiding a confide in his, back room and
that's probably for. The, Best, anyway guys thanks for. THE
opportunity i love. Your show you're the highlight of my podcasting,
a week and here's, to many many.
Speaker 5: More years surely you can't.
Speaker 1: Be, serious, Okay Awesome. Thanks james that. Was great i'm
pretty sure you disagreed with both of us on. THAT
one i think that we Both Picked Lost.
Speaker 2: Boys friday Night And lost boys are, both awesome.
Speaker 1: Both fantastic those WERE his i think that was his introduction.
To us was so apparently it's good enough to have
somebody come in and become. Our friend so if you're
listening now for the, first time go Check Out Lost
Boys Versus.
Speaker 2: Fright night james interacts with. Us regularly he sends his Messages.
On facebook he. Weighs in we love hearing. From him
we'd love to hear from you. As, well james thank you.
So much we appreciate your patronage and look forward to
hearing from me down.
Speaker 1: The line, All right so that does it for part
One Of TERMINATOR versus. T two we will be back
next week for the, second half we'll be back