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going on with the m Grayson. What did I just
do with my sheet of paper?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 1: Where did it go? Real professional? Pete? Here it is?
Speaker 3: No, it.
Speaker 1: Is the the trend day Aragua. I don't know what
happened to it, Like I literally just had it here
and now it is all, Oh here it is. I
put it in with my ticket giveaway ahaa my bed. Okay,
So we have the trend ay Arago. Question. Is a
military incursion or not? This is not MS thirteen, totally
different gang okay. But they too have been allowed to
come into the country. So this is the one that
involves the judge up in DC, the Chief Judge of
the U S District Court of District of Columbia Judge
James bow Asberg Boseburg bo as Berg. Anyway, Boseburg's central
argument is that it is inappropriate for President Trump to
apply the Alien Enemies Act against trend De Arbawa or TDA.
Boseburg said, TDA is not a foreign government against whom
the US has declared war, right, and I think we
can all agree Trenda Arragua TDA is not an elected
or recognized government of Venezuela. Now that doesn't mean that
it is completely separate from the Venezuelan government, and this
is going to be the problem for Boseburg, I think.
So this goes to the Alien Instedition Law, right, which,
like everybody knows, like you've probably heard something about that
in your K twelve education. You know, John Adams tried
to you know, keep people from saying things and whatever.
So this was part of that law. And it says
that whenever there shall be a declared war between the
United States and any foreign nation or government COMMA, or
any invasion or predatory incursion shall be perpetrated, attempted, or
threatened against the territory of the United States COMMA by
any foreign nation government COMMA and the President of the
United States shall make public proclamation of the event. All
native citizens denizens are subjects of the hostile nation or government,
being males of the age of fourteen and upwards who
shall be within the United States and not actually naturalized,
shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured, and removed
as alien enemies. Right the Alien Enemies Act. So the
question is about the commas as I understand it, because
that's why I said comma after all that, because when
you say that there shall be a declared war between
the US and any foreign nation or government, right, we
all understand what that means, a declaration of war. Which
that's so pass saying America doesn't do that anymore. I'll
actually go through Congress to get declarations of war. But
then the next part after the comma is or any
invasion or predatory incursion shall be perpetrated at ten or
threatened against America. But then there's another comma there by
any foreign nation or government. And I think that's what
he is hooking in to the invasion or predatory incursion.
So that's like people are confused as to what this means.
So like, can you actually have some sort of an
invasion occurring if it's not a government run invasion, And
the answer to that is, of course yes, you can.
Of course you can't. For example, if the Barbary Coast
pirates had sailed over to America with you know, two
three thousand men under arms and had you know, disembarked
their boats and began pillaging villages and such, that would
count as an invasion even though it wasn't necessarily a
government run invasion. Would didn't come from a nation state.
So you could have a declaration of some kind, right,
the president could make a declaration, which, by the way,
Donald Trump has done against trend A Arragua. It is
also a foreign terrorist organization designated as such by the
US government. So is the criminal gang activity of trend
A Arragua perpetrated, attempted, or threatened by a foreign nation
or government? Right, So, if we're going to read it
as if it has to be perpetrated by a foreign nation,
does this meet the criteria? Does trendy Aragua meet the criteria?
And does their relationship with the Venezuelan government meet that definition?
So the New York Times put out a piece the
other day and they were like, no, it doesn't it's
totally separate. Blah blah blah. They quoted some I think
they had it was something like fifty one current and
former Intel chiefs that said it was something like Russian
disinformation or something. I think of the letter, that's who
they were relying on. But then like a day later,
coincidentally or not, I don't know, the Miami Herald put
out a massive piece and I have it right here.
This was from March twenty first, the investigative reporter Antonio
Maria Delgado interviewed a team of high level investigators and
analysts who have been following the Venezuelan regime for more
than a decade. The only team member to speak on
the record, it's a guy named Gary Bernson. He is
among the most highly decorated CIA veterans in recent history.
And this is from a website called American Greatness by
Bart Marquis or Marquoise Marciss. I think it's Mark WHI.
I think it's French. And so he spoke with this guy,
Gary Burnson after the Miami Herald quoted him in its
piece too, and Bernsteon's confirms that TDA was purposely sent
to the United States, specifically to destabilize our country. That's
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a fellow by the name of Gary Bernston sorry Bernsen.
Bernson one of the most highly decorated CIA veterans and
part of a team that has been following the Venezuelan
regime for over a decade, and he says, quote, the
Venezuelan regime has assumed operational control of the Gang Trend
de Aragua TDA and has trained three hundred members of it.
They have been given paramilitary training, training them to fire
weapons and more importantly, I would submit conduct sabotage. They
have given them all like a four to six week course.
They put those three hundred guys through that course, and
then they were deploying them into the United States to
twenty separate states. Bernson is coming forward now because two
CIA officials leaked false intelligence to The New York Times
recently claiming the agency has no intelligence connecting TDA with
the Venezuelan government. But Burnson showed the reporter in this
piece proof of the close relationships among TDA, the Venezuelan military,
and the Venezuelan intelligence apparatus, along with Cuban intelligence and
basically the worst of the worst of the Latin American
narco terrorist organizations. He shared not only the intel but
also the sources with elements of the US government. Quote,
the CIA doesn't have the information because they refused to
look at it. Bernston said, we tried to brief them
about all of this three years ago, but they were
directed by the Biden administration to ignore it. And now
those officials are trying to undermine President Trump. That's from
the CIA guy. So to conclude, Trende Aragua is a
designated foreign terrorist organization that operates under the direction of
a foreign government in conjunction with other foreign terrorist organizations.
It is funded and assisted by narco traffickers and Mexican
drug cartels. It has entered the US clandestinely with the
expressed goal of undermining and destabilizing our country and attacking
our citizens. It is set on sabotage, including arson. Have
we seen recent examples of potential arson or I don't know,
maybe some power substations getting taken offline, stuff like that.
I mean, I'm not saying it is or is not.
I'm just saying I can think of some examples of
some events where people were left scratching their heads wondering
who would do such a thing and why has nobody
ever been caught for this stuff? The TDA was trained, directed, assisted,
and funded by the government of Venezuela and its criminal allies,
who have more firepower than the military forces of several nations.
So does this count? Then? Under the law, does this count?
Any invasion or predatory incursions shall be perpetrated, attempted, or
threatened against the territory of the United States by any
foreign nation or government. Right, there's a term for what
these guys are being used as they are like they're cutouts.
It's a way that the government can have no fingerprints
on the operations so it doesn't blow back on them. Right.
So if these TDA guys get caught, oh, that's just
a that's just a cartel, that's just a gang. That's
not the government could see the government. I mean, you
could attack the government, but it's just a gang, you see.
And so they're autonomous. They're doing their own thing. According
to the Miami Herald, which broke this story, a small
team of Venezuelans and former US officials with deep connections
to police and intelligence in the South American country has
been providing information to the Trump administration about the number
and identities of members of Trende Aragua and other Venezuelan
gangs headed to or already in the United States. The group,
which has been meeting with high ranking members of the administration,
made a presentation to President Trump's team before he was inaugurated.
They detailed links between the TDA gang and the Venezuelan
regime Las Maduro, and they provided official documents obtained from
Venezuelan police agencies identifying eighteen hundred gang members believed to
have been sent into the United States. This according to
three different sources with quote knowledge of the situation. So
a total of eighteen hundred people have been deployed into
our country that are associated with the TDA and by extension,
the Venezuelan government and military and intel operations. Three hundred
of them were trained. Another team member, who asked for
nanimity to protect the identities of the sources back in Venezuela,
said the group had access to records from the police
agencies of the South American country and that these were
provided to the Trump administration. Okay, so they're getting police documents,
records from Venezuela. That's what the Trump administration has been utilizing,
and this has led to the identification and arrests of
at least eight hundred Venezuelans who are believed to be
either full fledged members of TDA or members of smaller
affiliated gangs. The team of investigators, which for years have
been exposing the threat to the US posed by the
Maduro regime, has in the past helped federal investigators in
the US target top members of the Caracas government accused
by the US justice system of running the soles drug
cartel and of high level corruption through different administrations. So
this isn't partisan. These aren't a bunch of Trumpers. These
people have been doing this work for over a decade,
different administrations, going after Venezuela's regime, which they say is
running a drug cartel. The drug cartel soles DA members
were deliberately sent into the largest American cities to create
problems for US law enforcement agencies. But they are not
just criminals sent to cause havoc. They are soldiers sent
in an asymmetric warfare operation against the United States that,
according to one of the members of this team, trende Iragua,
members were also tasked with setting up drug distribution networks
in major cities to fill the void created by the
crackdown on MS thirteen that was severely weakened by the
arrest of its leadership in El Salvador in twenty twenty
two when that new guy got in built the prison.
The Salvadoran gang had served as an important US outlet
for the drugs provided by Mexico's Sineloa cartel, which, according
to the US law enforcement investigations, is one of the
top partners of the Venezuelan cartel allegedly headed by Maduro
and is number two the Interior Minister Distado Cabeo number two.
So you've got all of these narco terrorist cartels operating
with a state sponsor, and that is funded not just
by the drugs, obviously, but the state is funded by
their oil revenue and such, and so they create this
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talk to Ray. Hello. Ray, Welcome to the program. Hello Pete, Hey,
what's up?
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: I was just I think I'm understanding correctly that whether
trend there Ragua can be flown out of the country
where the commas and the language, how it's interpreted to
so the alien enemies that can apply to it. Is
that part correct that I'm getting.
Speaker 1: That's my understanding is that there's a disagreement as to
whether or not it applies to only foreign governments or
if you can cite an invasion by a non government
entity like a gang. But what the Miami Herald is
reporting is that the TDA is actually part of the
Venezuelan government, so it would make that point move.
Speaker 2: Well, that's that's my point, is what I'm saying. If
they find that they are the alien enemy Alien Act
applause to them, then I don't see anything that would
stop the judges from going ahead and ordering Trump to
turn the planes around, so to speak. Again, and he'll
still have to for the judge's orders until it's appealed
and makes it all the way to the Supreme Court
and support tails them not to do it. Well, you
found about right.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's this is going to go to the
Supreme Court. This is a fight that the administration wants
to have because there's no other way to reign in
these these lower courts, these district courts and these uh,
these nationwide injunctions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if they if they, if they want this fight
the administration and they get it, then it's still going
to take what two three years to work its way
to the Supreme Court going to just make agenda on
the legal immigration mute for a large part of it.
Speaker 1: They can get it, they can get it to the
to the Supreme Court quickly, but the Supreme Court has
to be willing to take it up. So that's yeah,
So they can get it there pretty quickly, but it's
still going to be you know, weeks or months. But yes,
it's a delay, and that's that's the whole point, right,
that's the the whole purpose is to stall first long
as possible on this stuff.
Speaker 2: So you would I'm asking you this too, you would
think they have a better chance of success at that
way in getting Congress to do away with these judge ships.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I don't think that's going to happen. It's
going to require and I'm going to get into that
in the next hour. I'm not going to have time
to get to all of the different angles in this hour,
but I will take that up in the third hour. Ray,
I do appreciate the call. Stre good to hear from you.
Here's a message from Russ who says trained TDA members.
You say, well, that reminds me whatever became of the
different power substation attacks like Pinehurst, or the series of
military members that were followed and had unscheduled utility visits
to their homes and the one guy who killed a
foreign national posing as a cable guy or something near
Fort Bragg, Remember that one? Yeah, Yeah, A lot of questions,
or the random people showing up on military bases and such. Right,
almost as if there's some sort of a testing going on, right.
The Miami Herald reports two hundred and eighty one, so
just under thirteen hundred Venezuelan alleged gang members who were
part of an estimated twenty thousand inmates who have been
released from Venezuelan prisons during Maduro's tenure and were told
that they had to leave the country if they wanted
to remain free. Okay, So, Venezuelan's President, Nicholas Maduro commie
that guy opened the prisons and released twenty thousand inmates.
Of the twenty thousand, about thirteen hundred of them were
told you have to leave our country or else we're
going to throw you back in prison. Information gathered by
the team from sources inside the regime points to a
plan that would place five thousand gang members inside the
United States. This is the equivalent of an oversized combat
brigade dispersed through twenty different locations, but with thousands of
people that would be able to communicate, move drugs, do
whatever they needed, and be able to put pressure on
the United States with violence in cities, and build out
a massive criminal infrastructure in America. Bernston said the team
became aware of Maduro's plan while conducting an investigation on
a separate case. At the time, however, the Biden administration
was negotiating with the Maduro regime, and when the team,
the CIA team came to give Biden, you know, the
evidence of what they had found, the Biden administration ignored
it because they were trying to normalize relations with Maduro.
The Trende Iragua gang formed in the past decade in
the notorious Tokaron prison in Venezuela's Arragua state the gang.
Members of the gang act as an armed branch and
a hitman squad for the Soles drug cartel, which US
prosecutors have said is headed by Nicholas Maduro and other
high ranking Venezuelan government officials. So he's using he's using
TDA as a proxy army, as saboteurs, spies, mayhem makers.
In addition to the information provided by the team, the
Trump administration has been receiving data provided by the police
organizations from Peru, Chile, Costa Rica, and Colombia, countries that
had large numbers of Trende Arragua members. The gang's presence
has been blamed for a surge in violence in those countries,
and on Monday, the Peruvian government declared LIMA in a
state of emergency following the killing of a popular singer
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Although trende Iragua members originally moved to countries near Venezuela,
they were later encouraged by their controllers in the Venezuelan government.
They're handlers to head to the US right. This is
according to our own intelligence operatives who have been investigating
Venezuela Maduro, his regime, the Solas cartel, right, their connections
to the Sineloa cartel, their connections to Trenda Aragua for
over a decade. They have briefed presidents of both parties
over that time. So, in other words, this is not new.
This is not new. And they told Trump about all
of this and that I'm going to go out on
a limit. Just guess here that that why Trump said
that this is an invasion and it meets the definition
of the Alien Enemies Act. Right, That doesn't that track?
Doesn't that make sense? All right? Let me jump over
and talk to Marvin. Hello, Marvin, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks people having me. You got a question, but
it seems like an argument. It's kind of a strewed
in the way to me.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, You're sorry, Marvin. It's kind of what I
can barely hear you through the static.
Speaker 3: Yes, I were saying this. It seems like the premive
that you're going on is a little true to me
because we know that Russia, China, Argentina and a country
like that Argentine invasion. Yes, Argentina. You let me just finish,
because they have agents that infiltrate our country every year.
They are consistently downloading of technology information. We have yet
to sit one Russian to my knowledge, and this is
caught by stakes badge back to Russian. So why is
it now that Venezuela and I know why because of
small countries that none of these explain laws are being
a flat to annoy you. If you could just explain
that to me, I would really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thank you well. So, first off, Marvin, your premise is incorrect.
Your premise is that there is no attention being paid
to any other criminal illegal aliens, and that is just
that's that's incorrect.
Speaker 3: I am saying a playing full of big down headcut
to send back you have correct.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you have seen, so I can't
tell you what you have or have not seen it.
The only video, well, Marvin, the only the only images
that were taken and publicized were the planeload of the
gang members that got sent down to Ecuador. But those
are not all TDA members, right, there are different people
that are in there. You don't know. No, hang on, Marvin,
there have been there have been record deportations. They've been
going all over the world. So just the just because
you saw one video that the administration put out of
the one that went down to Ecuador or sorry, El Salvador,
doesn't mean that there haven't been other deportations occurring.
Speaker 3: You would agree with that, right, yes, but that's the
only one the administration was.
Speaker 1: Showing, right because it was a massive operation. Well, because
it was a massive operation, because the TDA invasion has
been a massive invasion.
Speaker 3: Well, they didn't have a problem with doing that when
they're bombed with UTI.
Speaker 1: So the hooties aren't in the who We just dropped
a bunch of bombs on on the houties in Yemen.
We bombed the the Jesus out of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the politicis SA if you're not going to release
information of anybody me.
Speaker 1: Are you on a speakerphone, Marvin, It's very difficult to
understand you. There's a lot of noise in the background.
I'm trying to follow you. I'm trying to follow what
you're saying, but I'm sorry, it's just it's really difficult
for me to make it out.
Speaker 3: I apologize. My thought was we need to just have
the policy be fair and equal to all that.
Speaker 1: What's your evidence that they're not. What's your evidence that
the policies are not fair and equal?
Speaker 3: That it's correct, sir. So I'm saying, if the pause
is going to be good for one country, make them
good for odd countries.
Speaker 1: What is your evidence that they are not?
Speaker 3: H the pictures of a plane full of people?
Speaker 1: You saw one, You saw one, You saw one flight, Okay, until.
Speaker 3: The government when you see any others? And no, have
you other than with somebody released, sir, you haven't.
Speaker 1: You can look at the numbers of deportations and the
countries of origin from where they're going. Any your Marvin, Marvin,
your ignorance about where the other countries uh where the
other people are being sent back to, does not present
itself as evidence to support your point. It's just your view.
Your lack of knowledge of other things. That's not proof
of anything. You not knowing something doesn't make something else true.
I didn't say that, No, Marvin, you are. No. No, Marvin, Marvin,
I'm not saying everybody else is. I'm saying you are
on this particular issue. Oh Marvin hung up on me.
Oh Marvin, No, I'm sorry. But like as Rush would say,
you know, I live in Realville. There's Also the other
point here that Marvin, I guess is also ignorant of,
which is that the largest in migration into America for
the past decade has in general, almost every single year
been people from South America. Now that has changed in
like more recent like the more recent like two year span,
I want to say, saw a lot of Chinese nationals
coming in, right, we saw larger numbers from uh Mauritania
or wherever, right to the point where you've got like
these these conflicts that are based in stuff from their
home countries that now are Eritrea. I was one, right,
we had a shootout or something in East Charlotte, a
bunch of people that had brought over from you know,
their whole their home countries, whatever beefs and grievances they
had back there, and they brought them over here. So
I mean, there are different populations, sure, But as far
as like organized criminal activity, the these narco terrorists and
related cartels and organizations, they're the ones that are involved
in this operation that the CIA has identified, and that's
why you're seeing a lot of getting picked up. But
I'm sure in Marvin's world it's racism, right, That's the
reason why I'm assuming, and I thought Marvin was going
to eventually get there, but he never wanted to pull
the trigger on it. But I assume that's what Marvin
was getting at. That the only reason that he's aware
because he saw the one image that got released of
the planeload that went down to El Salvador, the prison
down there, that for some reason, that that's the only
planeload that we've sent out, and we know that's not true.
Now Marvin doesn't know that's not true. Marvin doesn't care
to know if it's not true. But it's not true.
We've sent planeloads of deportees all around the world, send
them back to their home countries. And part of the
reason why we have to send them to El Salvador
is because Venezuela won't take them. They hate us, they
send them here. Why would they take them back. They
released these people from prison, sent them to America, trained
about three hundred of them to engage in sabotage and such,
and they're not interested in bringing back their operatives. They
deployed those operatives for a purpose. So no, they're not
taking them back. So we put them all on a plane,
send them down to El Salvador that said, hey, we'll
take them, and where they're cracking down on their gangs too.
TDA is running wild down there, and they're in certain countries,
certain governments are trying to get them under control. Trendy
Arragua operates in conjunction with Cartel de los Soles, that is,
the Maduro regime sponsored narco terrorism enterprise based in Venezuela.
It commits brutal crimes, murders, kidnappings, extortions, human trafficking, drug trafficking,
weapons trafficking. Right. This was why the Alien Enemy Act
of seventeen ninety eight was invoked to assume the authority
to expedite the mass deportations of Venezuelans in the US
suspected of being gang members, because they could make that connection.
If we're able to round up a cell of Russian terrorists,
I have no doubt that's going to happen. But the
Russians are, I don't know, a little bit better at
hiding their tracks. They don't operate in these kinds of
cells out in the open, you know. They don't take
over entire apartment buildings and evict people and run their
criminal enterprises from them. The team of investigators advising the
Trump administration said that the formal members of the gang
serve as organizational leaders of different cells that have recruited
other Venezuelans in the US cities that they were sent to,
but not all members of the new cells are necessarily
considered to be official gang members. So you have like
this organization of that's led by you know, cartel members
or gang members, but then you have non members that
are sort of affiliated. This follows the organizational structure the
gang implemented inside the Venezuelan prisons, where they recruited new
members from the general population in order to have the
numbers to rule the other inmates. And by the way,
the DOJ has outstanding drug trafficking indictments against Maduro and
his interior minister Cabello, who are accused of heading the
Souls cartel. All right, that'll do it for this episode.
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