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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bedtime Astronomy. Explore the wonders of the cosmos

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<v Speaker 1>with our soothing Bedtime Astronomie podcast. Each episode offers a

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<v Speaker 1>gentle journey through the stars, planets, and beyond, perfect for

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<v Speaker 1>unwinding after a long day. Let's travel through the mysteries

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe as you drift off into a peaceful

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<v Speaker 1>slumber under the night sky.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to take a second and just imagine

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<v Speaker 2>looking through a viewing portal, but you're not looking at

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<v Speaker 2>the universe as it is today. You are watching a

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<v Speaker 2>mirror image of our very own solar system, but at

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<v Speaker 2>the exact moment of its like chaotic, violent birth. You're

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<v Speaker 2>not seeing Earth and Mars and Jupiter all neatly sorted

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<v Speaker 2>into their stable orbits. You were watching this swirling, turbulent

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<v Speaker 2>delivery room of a cosmic neighborhood. And the craziest part

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<v Speaker 2>is you are watching it actively unfold right this second.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and for the vast majority of astronomical history, trying

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<v Speaker 3>to understand how planets formed was basically an exercise in forensics, right,

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<v Speaker 3>like a crime scene exactly. I mean, we had our

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<v Speaker 3>own mature solar system to study, and we were essentially

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<v Speaker 3>just investigating the aftermath of a massive.

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<v Speaker 2>Explosion, just looking at the debris.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, we had to look at this coal debris, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the current orbits of the planets, the makeup of asteroids,

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<v Speaker 3>where the comets are distributed. And from that we had

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<v Speaker 3>to try and reverse engineer the exact placement and like

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<v Speaker 3>the yield of the original dynamite.

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<v Speaker 2>Which sounds impossible, it's incredibly difficult.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we had theoretical physics models running on supercomputers, sure,

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<v Speaker 3>but we lacked the direct observational evidence of the process

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<v Speaker 3>actually occurring. But now, well, the paradigm has completely shifted.

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<v Speaker 3>What's fascinating here is we are transitioning from guessing how

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<v Speaker 3>planets form to actively watching it happen. We basically have

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<v Speaker 3>a camera recording the blast.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's unpack this, because that shift is exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>makes late more Arch of twenty twenty six such a

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<v Speaker 2>landmark moment for astronomy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Telescopes pointed at the constellation Aquila, which is about

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred and thirty seven light years away, have captured

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<v Speaker 2>the most detailed, structurally complex view we have ever seen

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<v Speaker 2>of a new solar system forming. It's stune in and

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<v Speaker 2>the anchor of this whole system is a baby star.

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<v Speaker 2>They needed it, whisp it too, right, And surrounding it

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<v Speaker 2>is this colossal disk of gas and dust. Embedded in

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<v Speaker 2>that disk are two confirmed heavyweight planets, and they are

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<v Speaker 2>actively gorging on material and carving out their orbits, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Is just wild to see in real time, it really is.

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<v Speaker 2>So our objective today is to explore exactly how those

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<v Speaker 2>chaotic clouds of dust actually transform into structured worlds. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to look at what these newly discovered giant baby

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<v Speaker 2>planets look like, and how this five million year old

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<v Speaker 2>star holds the secrets to our own four point six

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<v Speaker 2>billion year history.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the transition from theoretical modeling to direct observation, it

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<v Speaker 3>really just cannot be overset.

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<v Speaker 2>Here because it used to just be math on a chalkboard.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly for decades. The intricate mechanisms of planetary accretion. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>how microscopic dust grains overcome electrostatic barriers, how they stick

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<v Speaker 3>together to grow into pebbles and then planetesimals and eventually

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<v Speaker 3>into massive gas giants. All of that mostly lived in

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<v Speaker 3>fluid dynamics equations and magnetohydrodynamic simulation, which is a mouthful,

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<v Speaker 3>it is, but basically we knew the math worked. The

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<v Speaker 3>problem was ground shooth verification was really scarce.

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<v Speaker 2>We could just go out and take a picture of it, right.

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<v Speaker 3>But whisp It two offers us this multiplanet laboratory where

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<v Speaker 3>we can finally test those models against reality. We can

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<v Speaker 3>measure the exact mass, the temperature, the orbital kinematics of

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<v Speaker 3>these planets as they are actively being forged.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let's start with the anchor of the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 2>the star itself, whisp It too. Okay, it's characterized as

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<v Speaker 2>a pre main sequence star and it's roughly five million

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<v Speaker 2>years old. Now to you and me, five million years

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<v Speaker 2>sounds ancient, right sure, But against the four point six

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<v Speaker 2>billion year age of our own Sun, whisp of two

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<v Speaker 2>is basically a newborn, very much so. But the metric

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<v Speaker 2>that really caught my eyes it's mass. It's clocked at

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<v Speaker 2>one point zero eight solar masses.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the crucial number.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it makes it a near perfect analog for what

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<v Speaker 2>our Sun looked like when it was a baby. It's

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<v Speaker 2>essentially a twin exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It's that one point arrow eight solar mass metric. That

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<v Speaker 3>makes it so valuable because its composition and size mirror

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<v Speaker 3>our Sun. The surrounding protoplanetary disk that's swirling reservoir of

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<v Speaker 3>leftover gas and dust is the perfect proxy for the

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<v Speaker 3>primordial soup that build Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, But you mentioned it's a pre main sequence star,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning it hasn't turned on yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically, yes, it hasn't achieved the internal pressure and temperature

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<v Speaker 3>required to ignite sustained hydrogen fusion in its core.

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<v Speaker 2>So if wisp it iiO hasn't turned on as core

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<v Speaker 2>hydrogen fusion yet, where's the thermal budget coming from? Like

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<v Speaker 2>is the surrounding material colder or is the violence of

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<v Speaker 2>gravity providing the heat? How is it generating enough energy

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<v Speaker 2>to keep the disc from just freezing into solid ice?

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<v Speaker 3>That is a great question, and it goes straight to

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<v Speaker 3>the thermodynamics of how stars are born. Okay, while wispit

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<v Speaker 3>two lacks that sustained hydrogen fusion, it's driven by something

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<v Speaker 3>we call the Kelvin Helmholtz mechanism.

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<v Speaker 2>The Kelvin Helmholtz mechanism, got it, What is that?

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<v Speaker 3>So the star is still in the process of gravitational collapse.

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<v Speaker 3>It formed from a vast cold molecular cloud, and as

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<v Speaker 3>that immense volume of gas falls inward on itself, gravitational

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<v Speaker 3>potential energy gets converted into kinetic.

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<v Speaker 2>Energy because it's moving faster, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And as those gas particles compress and collide at higher

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<v Speaker 3>and higher velocities, that kinetic energy is converted into thermal energy.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's essentially heating up because it's crushing itself.

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<v Speaker 3>That is exactly the mechanism. It's glowing purely from the

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<v Speaker 3>intense friction and pressure of its own gravitational contraction.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And according to the viurial theorem, about half of

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<v Speaker 3>the gravitational potential energy released during this collapse radiates away

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<v Speaker 3>as starlight and the other half remains trapped inside and

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<v Speaker 3>it steadily raises the coret temperature. Eventually, millions of years

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<v Speaker 3>from now, that core temperature will hit roughly fifteen million.

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<v Speaker 2>Kelvin, which is when it finally turns on.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, that's what's required to sustain hydrogen fusion, and whisp

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<v Speaker 3>bit two will officially join the main sequence. But right now,

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that it hasn't ignited fusion is huge.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is that so important for the planets?

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<v Speaker 3>Because it hasn't generated the intense sustained stellar winds yet

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<v Speaker 3>that outward radiation pressure that eventually blows all the primordial

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<v Speaker 3>planet making material out of the system. Oh I see, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>So the protoplanetary disk around wispit two is still dense,

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<v Speaker 3>it's rich, and it's undisturbed, so.

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<v Speaker 2>It's prime real estate for building planets exactly. Now. I

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<v Speaker 2>know this isn't the absolute first time we've caught a

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<v Speaker 2>system in this phase. Back in twenty eighteen, there was

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<v Speaker 2>the discovery of PDS.

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<v Speaker 3>Seventy, Yes, a very famous system.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it's about three hundred and seventy light years away,

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<v Speaker 2>and astronomers found two forming protoplanets there. That was the

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<v Speaker 2>first proof that we could actually witness planetary birth. But

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<v Speaker 2>when I was looking into this, it seems like PDS

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<v Speaker 2>seventy is treated as a proof of concept, whereas wispit

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<v Speaker 2>two is being treated as this comprehensive laboratory.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a very fair assessment.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of think of PDS seventy as like finding

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<v Speaker 2>a single blurry polaroid of a baby, huh, whereas whispit

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<v Speaker 2>two is like finding an entire high definition home video

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<v Speaker 2>with a wider cast of characters. But what specific data

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<v Speaker 2>does whispit two provide that fundamentally elevates our understanding compared

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<v Speaker 2>to PDS seventy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, PDS seventy was a watershed moment for sure. It

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<v Speaker 3>gave us the first unambiguous direct images of protoplanets PDS

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<v Speaker 3>seventy B and C sitting inside a transition disc. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>we could measure their hydrogen alpha emission, which is basically

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<v Speaker 3>a specific wavelength of light that acts as a direct

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<v Speaker 3>tracer of hot hydrogen gas accreting onto the planets.

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<v Speaker 2>So it proved that planets were actually gathering material.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it proved the accretion models were fundamentally correct. However,

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<v Speaker 3>PDS seventy had limitations when it came to visibility of

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<v Speaker 3>the discs structure itself, like.

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<v Speaker 2>The environment around the planets.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly the gaps were there, but the extended complex architecture

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't as cleanly defined.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was essentially just a narrow window into the process.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, whispit two, by contrast, has an extraordinarily extended disc.

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<v Speaker 3>It has multiple highly distinct concentric rings and these deeply

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<v Speaker 3>carved gaps that are clean enough to measure precise kinematic.

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<v Speaker 2>Deviations, meaning we can see how things are moving.

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<v Speaker 3>We aren't just seeing the planets glowing. We can measure

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<v Speaker 3>the exact velocity field of the gas flowing around them.

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<v Speaker 3>We can map the surface density gradients of the dust. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>Whispit too allows us to observe not just the existence

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<v Speaker 3>of the planets, but the real time fluid dynamics of

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<v Speaker 3>the environment they are manipulating.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let's talk about the planets too in the manipulating,

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<v Speaker 2>because the scale of these bodies is just staggering.

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<v Speaker 3>They are massive, right.

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<v Speaker 2>The first one confirmed, Whispit two B, was directly imaged

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty five. This is a gas giant with

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<v Speaker 2>a mass roughly four point nine times that of Jupiter,

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<v Speaker 2>and its orbital location is way out in the deep

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<v Speaker 2>frieze of the system. It's sitting at a distance of

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<v Speaker 2>fifty seven to sixty astronomical units from the host star.

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<v Speaker 2>And for context for you listening, Neptune sits at thirty AU.

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<v Speaker 2>So Whispit two B is orbiting at twice the distance

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<v Speaker 2>of the furthest major planet in our own Solar system.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and a four point nine juper mass object at

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<v Speaker 3>sixty AU poses a significant challenge to our standard formation models,

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<v Speaker 3>which we can get into later.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, but physically what is it doing out there?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, regarding its physical state, Whispit two B is currently

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<v Speaker 3>operating as a massive gravitational sink. Okay, at sixty AU.

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<v Speaker 3>The orbital period is vast, meaning the planet takes hundreds

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<v Speaker 3>of years to complete a single revolution around the star.

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<v Speaker 2>Just one year for that planet is centuries for us exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And as it slowly plows through the outer disc, it

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<v Speaker 3>is accreting gas and dust within its hill sphere.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hillsphere.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the hill sphere is the region where the planet's

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<v Speaker 3>gravity dominates over the gravitational pull of the host star.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so anything that enters that sphere is basically getting

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<v Speaker 2>sucked in pretty much. And that accretion process itself is

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<v Speaker 2>generating a massive amount of in red radiation. Correct, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the heat isn't just coming from the star,

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<v Speaker 2>It's coming from these colossal, glowing babies hidden in the dust.

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<v Speaker 2>The material isn't just gently falling onto the planet, it's

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<v Speaker 2>slamming into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the physics of accretion are incredibly violent.

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<v Speaker 2>How violent are we talking? Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Gas falling toward the planet accelerates to supersonic speeds.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>And when it finally strikes the denser atmosphere or the

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<v Speaker 3>surface of the growing proto planet, it creates an accretion shock.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man.

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<v Speaker 3>The kinetic energy of that in falling gas is instantaneously

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<v Speaker 3>converted into heat. It raises the local temperature to thousands.

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<v Speaker 2>Of degrees, So even out in the deep freeze, it's

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<v Speaker 2>scorching hot.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. That is why a planet out at sixty AU,

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<v Speaker 2>It's radiating its own formation. Here. Yes, okay, so that's

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<v Speaker 2>the outer planet. But that brings us to the March

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<v Speaker 2>to C. And here is where it gets really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>The architecture of this system becomes highly counterintuitive. It does

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<v Speaker 2>Whispit two c orbits much closer to the star at

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<v Speaker 2>eight and twelve jupiter masses. It is roughly twice as

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's a heavyweight.

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<v Speaker 2>But confirming this required spectroscopic data, specifically looking for carbon monoxide,

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<v Speaker 2>walking through the physics of that detection. Because finding something

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<v Speaker 3>It is significantly harder. Confirming wispit two C was a

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<v Speaker 2>Why is it so difficult.

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<v Speaker 3>Because at fourteen au the angular separation between the planet

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<v Speaker 3>and the star is incredibly tight. The glare of WISPIT

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<v Speaker 2>It's just blinding that telescope, right.

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<v Speaker 3>So to prove that this faint point of light wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>hot dust, astronomers utilized integral field spectrographs. Okay, they needed

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<v Speaker 3>to analyze the specific wavelengths of light being emitted. They

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<v Speaker 3>targeted the K band in the near infrared, and specifically

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<v Speaker 3>carbon monoxide, which occur around two point three microns.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, why carbon monoxide that? Why not look for hydrogen

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good point. So carbon monoxide is an exceptionally

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, so it survives the heat exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Methane, on the other hand, requires much cooler temperatures to

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not specific.

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<v Speaker 3>Enough, right, But the specific roe Vibe rational signature of

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<v Speaker 2>It's the smoking gun exactly. But finding the molecule isn't

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<v Speaker 2>and not just gas floating around.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and that is where the kinematics come into play

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<v Speaker 3>the movement right By observing the K band spectrum with

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<v Speaker 3>of those carbon monoxide.

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<v Speaker 2>Lines, like how a siren sounds different when an ambulance

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly like that, but with light as the planet orbits

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<v Speaker 3>the star, its velocity relative to our telescopes on Earth changes.

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<v Speaker 3>When it moves slightly toward us in its orbit, the

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<v Speaker 2>Blue shift, and when it moves away a red shift.

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<v Speaker 3>So by measuring this precise shift, astronomers can calculate the

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<v Speaker 3>Keplarian velocity of the object the actual speed of its orbit. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>and the data showed that this glowing source of carbon

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<v Speaker 3>monoxide was moving at the exact velocity required for an

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<v Speaker 2>So it couldn't just be random gas.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it was definitive proof of a massive eight to

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I see the logic in the detection, but the

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<v Speaker 2>mass distribution still seems completely backward to me. How so, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Whispit two C is at fourteen AU, Whispit two B

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<v Speaker 2>is at sixty AU. The circumference of an orbit at

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<v Speaker 2>sixty AU is vastly larger, Right, Yes, it is so

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<v Speaker 2>the outer planet has a much longer track to run,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning as a much wider volume of space to sweep through.

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<v Speaker 2>Given that, why is the inner baby so much hungrier?

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<v Speaker 2>Shouldn't the planet further out have more room to sweep

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<v Speaker 2>up material and get bigger.

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<v Speaker 3>I get why you'd think that. It's a very common

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<v Speaker 3>misconception to equate orbital circumference with available mass.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>In a protoplanetary disk, we have to look at the

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<v Speaker 3>radial service density profile. The material, the gas, and the

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<v Speaker 3>dust is not distributed even.

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<v Speaker 2>Lanth It's not just a flat, uniform sheet, right.

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<v Speaker 3>The disc is governed by fluid dynamics, and typically the

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<v Speaker 3>extonentially as you move outward.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah. So the raw material is just thicker on the

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<v Speaker 2>inside track.

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<v Speaker 3>Thicker by orders of magnitude.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>To use a mechanical analogy, imagine driving a snowplow. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>the outer planet at sixty AU is driving a massive

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<v Speaker 3>sweeping route across a giant parking lot, but the parking

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<v Speaker 3>lot only has a sparse half inch dusting of snow. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>the inner planet at fourteen AU has a much shorter route,

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<v Speaker 3>but it is driving through drifts that are ten feet high.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that makes perfect sense. That tracks completely. But is

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<v Speaker 2>it just a static distribution of density or is material

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<v Speaker 2>actively moving toward the inner planet.

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<v Speaker 3>It is highly dynamic. We have to consider radial drift,

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<v Speaker 3>particularly for the pebble size solid particles in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Disc radial drifts. So things are migrating.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, in the disc, the gas is partially supported by

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<v Speaker 3>outward thermal pressure, meaning the gas actually orbit slightly slower

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<v Speaker 2>Slower than a purely gravitational orbit.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But the solid pebbles they don't feel that gas pressure.

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<v Speaker 3>They want to orbit at the faster full caplarian velocity.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, so the pebbles are trying to go fast, but

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<v Speaker 2>the gas is going slow exactly, meaning the pebbles are

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<v Speaker 2>constantly fighting a headwind from the slower moving gas.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the perfect way to visualize it, and that headwind

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<v Speaker 3>acts as aerodynamic drag. Ah okay, it bleeds orbital angular

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<v Speaker 3>momentum from the pebbles, which causes them to constantly spiral

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 3>So not only is wispit to see sitting in an

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<v Speaker 3>is positioned in a cosmic bottleneck, a bottlenic right, where

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<v Speaker 3>vast quantities of solid material from the outer discs are

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<v Speaker 3>continually drifting inward, delivering an endless supply of mass right

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<v Speaker 3>to the inner planet's feeding zone.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's basically sitting at the end of a buffet

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<v Speaker 2>line exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Whispit to C is gorging itself on this inward migration,

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<v Speaker 3>and that allows it to rapidly balloon to ten times

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<v Speaker 3>Jupiter's mass.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the outer planet is starving.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Whispit two B is forced to accrete from the

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<v Speaker 3>much sparser depleted material out in the outer disc. So yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it grows much slower.

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<v Speaker 2>That aerodynamic drag mechanism completely changes how I view the disc.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a static ring. It's a conveyor belt. It

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely is, and the planets are actively disrupting that conveyor belt,

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<v Speaker 2>which naturally brings us to the visual architecture of the

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<v Speaker 2>Wispit two disc. We talked about how we're seeing these

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<v Speaker 2>visible scars these planets are leaving behind. We see these massive, bright,

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<v Speaker 2>concentric rings of dust separated by deep, dark gaps. Right

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<v Speaker 2>if we picture a giant vinyl record, the dust makes

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<v Speaker 2>up the ridges, and the planets are the needles carving

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<v Speaker 2>out the grooves, pulling in mass as gravity takes over.

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<v Speaker 2>But how exactly does a planet's gravity physically clear a

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<v Speaker 2>gap that is billions of miles wide. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>can't possibly accrete all that material, can it?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? No, it doesn't accrete all of it. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>it it cretes relatively small fraction.

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<v Speaker 2>So where does the rest of it go?

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<v Speaker 3>The vast majority of the material is pushed away through

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<v Speaker 3>gravitational torques.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>When a massive planet like Wisp it two B or

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<v Speaker 3>two C orbits within a gaseous disc, it interacts gravitationally

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<v Speaker 3>with the surrounding material and it launches spiral density waves.

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<v Speaker 2>Spiral density waves, that sounds intense.

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<v Speaker 3>They are. These waves are very similar to the wake

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<v Speaker 3>created by a boat moving through water. As these density

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<v Speaker 3>waves propagate away from the planet, both inward toward the

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<v Speaker 3>star and outward into the deeper disc, they eventually shock

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<v Speaker 3>the gas.

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<v Speaker 2>They shock it, meaning they compress it and transfer momentum.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the waves deposit angular momentum into the outer disc,

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<v Speaker 3>which physically pushes the gas further away from the star.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And conversely, they extract angular momentum from the inner disc,

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<v Speaker 3>causing that gas to fall closer to the star.

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<v Speaker 2>This is pushing material in both directions away from its

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<v Speaker 2>orbit exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>The net result is that the gas is actively repelled

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<v Speaker 3>from the planet's orbit, creating a cleared region or a

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<v Speaker 2>But the images we are seeing from the telescopes are

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<v Speaker 2>primarily showing dust, not just gas, right, correct, So how

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<v Speaker 2>does pushing the gas away create those incredibly sharp bright

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<v Speaker 2>rings of dust on either side of the gap? Ah?

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<v Speaker 3>This ties directly back to the aerodynamic.

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<v Speaker 2>Drag we just discussed the headwinds. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>When the planet pushes the gas away and creates a gap,

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<v Speaker 3>it creates a localized pressure gradient at the edge.

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<v Speaker 2>Of that gap, meaning the gas pressure spikes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the gas pressure increases sharply just outside the cleared zone. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>remember that solid pebbles drift inward due to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Gas headwind, right the spiraling in.

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<v Speaker 3>But when those inward drifting pebbles hit that sudden spike

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<v Speaker 3>in gas pressure at the outer edge of the gap,

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<v Speaker 3>the headwind disappears. Oh, the pressure bump acts as an

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<v Speaker 3>aerodynamic trap.

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<v Speaker 2>So they just stop.

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<v Speaker 3>The pebble stop drifting inward, and they pile up massively

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<v Speaker 3>at the edge of the gap.

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<v Speaker 2>So the planet is essentially building a dam.

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<v Speaker 3>It is building a dam, and the bright rings we

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<v Speaker 3>see and the telescope image are the reservoirs of dust

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<v Speaker 2>That is incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>The gap itself is largely cleared of both gas and

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<v Speaker 3>millimeter sized dust, making it look dark, while the edges

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<v Speaker 3>glow brilliantly because of the concentrated dust accumulation.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let me stop you there, though. If I'm playing

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<v Speaker 2>Devil's advocate here, Okay, how do we know for sure

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<v Speaker 2>that a dark gap equals a planet? Couldn't the gap

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<v Speaker 2>be caused by something else? Like what, well, what if

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<v Speaker 2>it's a snow line, like a region where a specific

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<v Speaker 2>gas like carbon monoxide suddenly freezes into a solid, changing

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<v Speaker 2>the opacity of the disk and just making it look

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<v Speaker 2>like a gap? Or what about magnetic dead zones where

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<v Speaker 2>turbulence drops off.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a crucial distinction, and honestly, it's a major

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<v Speaker 3>debate in planetary science all right. For years, when we

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<v Speaker 3>only had lower resolution imagery, alternative theories like snow lines

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<v Speaker 3>or magnetor rotational instability variations were highly viable explanations for disc.

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<v Speaker 2>Gaps because we couldn't prove otherwise exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>However, wisp it too provides the kinematic data to rule

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<v Speaker 3>those out. Wow, Well, a snow line changes the chemical

430
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<v Speaker 3>state of the disk, but it does not drastically alter

431
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<v Speaker 3>the velocity of the gas flow. A massive planet, however,

432
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<v Speaker 3>does By using high resolution spectroscopy, astronomers mapped the caplearian

433
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<v Speaker 3>velocity of the carbon monoxide gas inside and around the gaps,

434
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<v Speaker 3>and they found localized distinct deviations in the gas velocity,

435
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<v Speaker 3>tiny twists or kinks in the kinematic map.

436
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<v Speaker 2>Like the gas is swerving. Yes, so the gas is

437
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<v Speaker 2>literally flowing around the gravitational well of the planet.

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely. Those kinematic twists are the undeniable dynamic signatures of

439
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<v Speaker 3>a massive, localized gravitational body. They prove we aren't just

440
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<v Speaker 3>looking at a chemical illusion or a shadow.

441
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<v Speaker 2>We are looking at the gravitational fingerprint of.

442
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<v Speaker 3>A planet exactly. We don't necessarily have to see the

443
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<v Speaker 3>planet to know it's there. Gravity leaves a fingerprint, and

444
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<v Speaker 3>this fingerprint analysis is leading to even more discoveries in

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<v Speaker 3>the wispit too system.

446
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<v Speaker 2>We really there's more.

447
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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Beyond the massive gaps carved by two B

448
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<v Speaker 3>and T who see, researchers have identified a third, much

449
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<v Speaker 3>narrower and shallower gap further out in the disc and.

450
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<v Speaker 2>The assumption is that this is a third planet just smaller.

451
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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, the depth and width of a gap are directly

452
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<v Speaker 3>proportional to the mass of the planet, carding it balanced

453
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<v Speaker 3>against the viscosity of the disk trying to refill it.

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<v Speaker 2>So what does the math say about this third one?

455
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<v Speaker 3>The math suggests this third gap is being maintained by

456
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<v Speaker 3>a planet roughly the mass of Saturn.

457
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<v Speaker 2>A Saturn sized baby.

458
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<v Speaker 3>Right, it is currently too low mass and therefore not

459
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<v Speaker 3>generating enough accretion heat to be directly imaged by our current.

460
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<v Speaker 2>Instruments, But the fingerprint is there.

461
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<v Speaker 3>The dynamic signature is there. As Chloe Lawler, she's a

462
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<v Speaker 3>PhD student at the University of Galway, she pointed out

463
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<v Speaker 3>that this multi gap architecture strongly implies an entire planetary

464
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<v Speaker 3>system is sequentially forming. The structure itself is a historical

465
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<v Speaker 3>ledger of the system's evolution. She said, It's basically the

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<v Speaker 3>best look into our own past that we have to date.

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<v Speaker 2>That is just wild to think about, and it leads

468
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<v Speaker 2>per into the technological reality of this discovery. I mean,

469
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<v Speaker 2>I marvel at the fact that we can see a

470
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<v Speaker 2>fingerprint four hundred and thirty seven light years away. We

471
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<v Speaker 2>are analyzing the kinematic twists in gas flows and the

472
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<v Speaker 2>thermal radiation of planetary accretion, all while fighting the blinding

473
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<v Speaker 2>glare of the host star.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a monumental engineering feed.

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<v Speaker 2>The analogy I usually hear for this is trying to

476
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<v Speaker 2>photograph a single firefly sitting next to a lighthouse from

477
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<v Speaker 2>thousands of miles away.

478
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<v Speaker 3>That's the classic one.

479
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but given the physics of the cave in infrared

480
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<v Speaker 2>and the adaptive optics involved, I feel like a better

481
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<v Speaker 2>analogy is trying to detect the specific thermal signature of

482
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<v Speaker 2>a single lit match sitting on the rim of an

483
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<v Speaker 2>industrial blast furnace from thirty miles away through a torrential downpour.

484
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<v Speaker 3>Huh.

485
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<v Speaker 2>That is remarkably accurate, right, So how are the telescopes

486
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<v Speaker 2>physically filtering out the blast furnace to see the match

487
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<v Speaker 2>break down? The paparazzi gear for us?

488
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, the torrential downpour in your analogy represents Earth's atmosphere.

489
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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Even on the highest dry peeps of the Atacama Desert

491
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<v Speaker 3>in Chile, where the European Southern Observatory's very large telescope,

492
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<v Speaker 3>the VLT is located, the atmosphere.

493
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<v Speaker 2>Is turbulent, the air is always moving.

494
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<v Speaker 3>Right, packets of air at varying temperatures act like thousands

495
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<v Speaker 3>of tiny moving lenses. They are continuously refracting and distorting

496
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<v Speaker 3>the incoming.

497
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<v Speaker 2>Starlight, which is why stars twinkle.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly if you take a standard long exposure photograph, that

499
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<v Speaker 3>turbulence smears the light of the star into a massive,

500
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<v Speaker 3>fuzzy halo that completely engulfs any faint planets.

501
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<v Speaker 2>So the first step is basically removing the atmosphere. How

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<v Speaker 2>does VLT achieve that without actually going into space.

503
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<v Speaker 3>Through advanced adaptive optics, primarily using an instrument.

504
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<v Speaker 2>Called sphere sphere What does that do?

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<v Speaker 3>Sphere relies on a shack Hartman wavefront sensor and a

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<v Speaker 3>deformable mirror.

507
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<v Speaker 2>The deformable mirror like it changes.

508
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<v Speaker 3>Shape, Yes, literally, the telescope analyzes the incoming light from

509
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<v Speaker 3>wisp it to the wavefront sensor, splits the telescope's pupil

510
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<v Speaker 3>into thousands of sub apertures, and it measures exactly how

511
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<v Speaker 3>the wavefront of the light has been warped by the

512
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<v Speaker 3>atmosphere at that exact microsecond.

513
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<v Speaker 2>So take a reading of the distortion.

514
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<v Speaker 3>Right, and then it mechanically corrects it in real time.

515
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<v Speaker 2>How fast is real time?

516
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<v Speaker 3>It sends that data to a computer, which calculates the

517
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<v Speaker 3>inverse of that distortion. The computer then sends electrical signals

518
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<v Speaker 3>to thousands of microscopic actuators located behind a thin, flexible mirror.

519
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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

520
00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:29.039
<v Speaker 3>Those actuators push and pull the mirror, physically deforming its

521
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<v Speaker 3>shape to exactly cancel out the atmosphereic turbulence. And it

522
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<v Speaker 3>does this at a frequency of over a thousand times

523
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<v Speaker 3>per second.

524
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<v Speaker 2>A thousand times a second. That's unbelievable.

525
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<v Speaker 3>It's incredible technology. It essentially flattens the wavefront, effectively removing

526
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<v Speaker 3>the Earth's atmosphere and turning the blurry halo back into

527
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<v Speaker 3>a sharp single point of starlight.

528
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but the star is still a blast furnace. You

529
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<v Speaker 2>have a sharp point of light now, but it's still

530
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<v Speaker 2>millions of times brighter than the planet. How do you

531
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<v Speaker 2>block it?

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<v Speaker 3>Once the light is corrected by the adaptive op it

533
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<v Speaker 3>is fed into a coronagraph.

534
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<v Speaker 2>A coronagraph, right at.

535
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<v Speaker 3>Its most basic level, a coronograph is a highly engineered

536
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<v Speaker 3>physical mask placed exactly at the focal plane of the paliscope.

537
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<v Speaker 3>It functions as an artificial eclipse physically blocking the core

538
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<v Speaker 3>light of the star.

539
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<v Speaker 2>Oh clever, So you just put a dot over the

540
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<v Speaker 2>bright part.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically, yes. However, because light acts as a wave, simply

542
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<v Speaker 3>blocking the center isn't enough. The starlight diffracts, It bends

543
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<v Speaker 3>around the edges of the mask and creates bright, concentric

544
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<v Speaker 3>rings that would still blind the sensors.

545
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<v Speaker 2>So the light leaks around the edge exactly.

546
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<v Speaker 3>But modern coronagraphs, like the appetized pupil leot coronographs used

547
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<v Speaker 3>on Sphere utilize secondary masks and complex optical shapes to

548
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<v Speaker 3>actively suppress those diffraction rings. Oh wow, this allows the

549
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<v Speaker 3>faint infrared glow of the disc and the outer planet

550
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<v Speaker 3>whisp It to be, to finally emerge from the darkness.

551
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that covers Sphere and the discovery of the

552
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<v Speaker 2>outer planet. But whisp it to see is at fourteen A.

553
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<v Speaker 2>It's incredibly close to the star.

554
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<v Speaker 3>A coronagraph alone isn't enough to resolve something that tight,

555
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<v Speaker 3>is it?

556
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<v Speaker 2>No? It is not. At fourteen AU, the angular separation

557
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<v Speaker 2>is below the diffraction limit of a single eight meter

558
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<v Speaker 2>mirror on the VLT.

559
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<v Speaker 3>Meaning the mirror just isn't big enough to see it exactly.

560
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<v Speaker 2>The resolving power of a telescope is fundamentally limited by

561
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<v Speaker 2>the diameter of its primary mirror. To see something as

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<v Speaker 2>tight as wisp it to see, you would need a

563
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<v Speaker 2>mirror over one hundred meters wide, which of course doesn't exist.

564
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<v Speaker 3>So what did they do?

565
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<v Speaker 2>This is where the technological leap of the VLTI, the

566
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<v Speaker 2>very large Telescope interferometer and the gravity plus instrument becomes

567
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<v Speaker 2>the hero of the story.

568
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<v Speaker 3>Interferometr that's essentially combining multiple telescopes to act as one

569
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<v Speaker 3>giant one.

570
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<v Speaker 2>Right, But how do you combine the light without losing

571
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<v Speaker 2>the phase data? I imagine it's super delicate.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the supreme engineering challenge. The VLTI takes the

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<v Speaker 3>light collected from all four of the eight meter unit

574
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<v Speaker 3>telescopes on the mountain. Okay, by combining that light, they

575
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<v Speaker 3>synthesize a virtual telescope with an effective baseline or diameter

576
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<v Speaker 3>of up to one hundred and thirty meters.

577
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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that solves the size problem.

578
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<v Speaker 3>It does, But to make that work, the light waves

579
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<v Speaker 3>from each telescope must arrive at the central gravity plus

580
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<v Speaker 3>instrument at the exact same time, down to a fraction

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<v Speaker 3>of a wavelength of light.

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<v Speaker 2>But wait, the telescopes are physically located in different places

583
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<v Speaker 2>on the mountain. The light traveling from the star hits

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<v Speaker 2>telescope A slightly before it hits telescope B exactly.

585
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<v Speaker 3>There is an optical path difference, so how do you

586
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<v Speaker 3>fix that? To correct this, the light from each telescope

587
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<v Speaker 3>is routed into subterranean tunnels equipped with delay line delay line. Yes,

588
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<v Speaker 3>these are essentially highly precise mirrors mounted on carriages that

589
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<v Speaker 3>physically move back and forth along rails to artificially lengthen

590
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<v Speaker 3>or shorten the path the light travels.

591
00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Wait, they have carts on rails underground moving mirrors to

592
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<v Speaker 2>catch the light.

593
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:55.640
<v Speaker 3>Literally. Yes, they continuously adjust, compensating for the rotation of

594
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<v Speaker 3>the Earth, ensuring that the light waves from all four

595
00:28:58.279 --> 00:29:01.200
<v Speaker 3>telescopes aligned perfectly when they're combined.

596
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<v Speaker 2>That sounds like science fiction.

597
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:06.039
<v Speaker 3>It's brilliant engineering. And the recent gravity plus upgrade was

598
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<v Speaker 3>specifically what pushed this over the edge to find Wispit.

599
00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:11.960
<v Speaker 2>To C so without that upgrade we wouldn't have seen it.

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<v Speaker 3>Without that upgrade, the inner planet would have remained entirely

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<v Speaker 3>hidden by the star's overwhelming light. The upgrade vastly improved

602
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<v Speaker 3>the fringe tracking capabilities. That's the system that actively locks

603
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<v Speaker 3>onto the phase of the combined light waves, and it

604
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<v Speaker 3>integrated new more powerful adaptive optics directly into the array.

605
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<v Speaker 2>Amazing.

606
00:29:31.480 --> 00:29:34.799
<v Speaker 3>It allowed gravity plus to suppress the starlight and increase

607
00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:39.920
<v Speaker 3>contrasts at incredibly tight angular separations, revealing wispit to C

608
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<v Speaker 3>in the KBAN spectrum.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so now that we understand what we're seeing and

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<v Speaker 2>how we're seeing it, what does this actually change for

611
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<v Speaker 2>the future of science. We have the mass, we have

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<v Speaker 2>the orbits, we have the spectroscopy and the instrumentation. Now

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<v Speaker 2>we have to contextualize this. We have a four point

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<v Speaker 2>nine jupiter mass planet at sixty AU and are roughly

615
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<v Speaker 2>ten jupiter mass planet at fourteen AU, all forming in

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<v Speaker 2>a system that is only five million years old. How

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<v Speaker 2>does this architecture challenge the existing models of planetary evolution

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<v Speaker 2>because from what I read, the timeline here is causing

619
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<v Speaker 2>a major headache for the standard core accretion model.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it is causing a profound reevaluation of the mass.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So in the standard model of gas giant formation,

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<v Speaker 3>known as core accretion, a planet must first build a

624
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<v Speaker 3>solid core microscopic dust grains in the disc collide and

625
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<v Speaker 3>stick through electrostatic forces, growing into pebbles. These pebbles then

626
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<v Speaker 3>undergo streaming instabilities, clumping together to form kilometer sized planetesimals,

627
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<v Speaker 3>basically building blocks. Yes, these planetesimals collide and merge in

628
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<v Speaker 3>a process called oligarchic growth until they form a rocky,

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<v Speaker 3>icy core roughly ten times the mass of Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>And once it hits that ten earth mass threshold, what happens?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, at that point, the gravity is strong enough to

632
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<v Speaker 3>trigger runaway gas accretion starts pulling in the hydrogen and

633
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<v Speaker 3>helium to become a jupiter.

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<v Speaker 2>But you said there's a problem with the timeline.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the rate at which planetesimals collide and grow depends

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<v Speaker 3>heavily on their orbital velocity and the density of material

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<v Speaker 3>close to the star. Orbital periods are short and density

638
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<v Speaker 3>is high, so a core can build relatively quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>Makes sense.

640
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<v Speaker 3>But at sixty AU, where WISPIT two B is located,

641
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:24.599
<v Speaker 3>the orbital periods are centuries long and the solid material

642
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:28.359
<v Speaker 3>is sparse. Right, standard core accretion models suggest it should

643
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<v Speaker 3>take tens of millions of years to build a ten

644
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<v Speaker 3>earth mass core at sixty AU but Wispit two is

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<v Speaker 3>only five million years old.

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<v Speaker 2>And Whispit two B is already a fully formed five

647
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<v Speaker 2>jupiter mass giant exactly, so the timeline doesn't work. The

648
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<v Speaker 2>planet is too big, it's too far out, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>too young. Does that mean the alternative theory, disk instability,

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<v Speaker 2>is the answer.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, disk instability posits a completely different top down mechanism.

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<v Speaker 3>It argues that if a protoplanetary disk is massive enough

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<v Speaker 3>and cold enough, the gravity of the gas itself overwhel

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<v Speaker 3>olms the thermal pressure keeping it stable.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so the gas just collapses on.

656
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<v Speaker 3>Its own exactly, portions of the disk fragment and collapse

657
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<v Speaker 3>in on themselves directly. It rapidly forms massive gas giants

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<v Speaker 3>without ever needing to build a solid core first.

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<v Speaker 2>And is that fast enough?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, this process can happen in a few thousand years,

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<v Speaker 3>easily satisfying the five million year age limit of Whispit too.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Okay, but there's a catch with disk instability too,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't there.

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<v Speaker 3>Always a catch? The catch is thermodynamics, Of course, it is.

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<v Speaker 3>For a clump of gas to collapse under its own gravity,

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<v Speaker 3>it must be able to cool rapidly. Why because as

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<v Speaker 3>it collapses, it heats up, increasing thermal pressure, which causes

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<v Speaker 3>the clump to bounce back and dissipate. It can only

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<v Speaker 3>permanently collapse if the cooling time is shorter than the

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<v Speaker 3>dynamic time scale of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Collapse, so it has to cool off faster than it

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<v Speaker 2>heats up.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly now, at sixty AU, the disc is cold and

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<v Speaker 3>optically thin enough to cool efficiently, making disk instability a

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<v Speaker 3>highly viable mechanism for wispit to b.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me guess at fourteen AU, where whisp it two

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<v Speaker 2>C lives it's too hot to cool efficiently.

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<v Speaker 3>You nailed it. At fourteen AU, the disc is optically

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<v Speaker 3>thick and much warmer. The cooling times are generally too

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<v Speaker 3>long for disk instability to function. A clump would heat

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<v Speaker 3>up and expand before it could ever form a planet.

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<v Speaker 2>So wait, whisp it two C sits too close for

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<v Speaker 2>disk instability, but whispit two B sits too far for

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<v Speaker 2>standard core accretion. Yes, the system is defying both models simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is precisely why co author Christian Ginsky described whisp

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<v Speaker 3>it too as a critical laboratory for the entire planetary system.

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<v Speaker 3>It's forcing us to rethink everything.

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<v Speaker 2>So how are they reconciling this. What's the leading hypothesis?

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<v Speaker 3>The current leading hypothesis to reconcile this is an accelerated

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<v Speaker 3>version of core accretion driven by the aerodynamic drag we

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<v Speaker 3>discussed earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, pebble acretion the.

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<v Speaker 3>Head one thing again exactly if the ten earth mass

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<v Speaker 3>core isn't built by slowly crashing massive planet tesimals together,

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<v Speaker 3>but instead by sweeping up millions of millimeter sized pebbles

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<v Speaker 3>that are constantly drifting inward, the growth rates skyrocket.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, because it's just gobbling up a steady stream of food.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Pebble accretion bypasses the traditional timescale bottlenecks. It potentially

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<v Speaker 3>allows a core to form at sixty au within a

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<v Speaker 3>million years, triggering the gas runaway fast enough to explain

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<v Speaker 3>wisp it to.

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<v Speaker 2>B That is just incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>And if we connect this to the bigger picture, moving

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<v Speaker 3>from one anomaly like PDS seventy to now having multiple

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<v Speaker 3>systems proves this is a common cosmic process. We are

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<v Speaker 3>actively building a catalog of birth sites.

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<v Speaker 2>And we have even better tools coming online soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh. Absolutely, wispit iiO is now a prime target for

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<v Speaker 3>the James Webs based telescope to probe the disc chemistry

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<v Speaker 3>and atmospheres, and the upcoming extremely large telescope might even

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<v Speaker 3>be able to image that suspected the planet.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to see those images, but I have

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<v Speaker 2>to ask about planetary migration. So what does this all

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<v Speaker 2>mean for the layout? We have these two massive bowling

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<v Speaker 2>balls orbiting in the disc. Once the gas fully dissipates

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<v Speaker 2>and the disc is gone, are they going to stay

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<v Speaker 2>put in these orbits of fourteen and sixty au or

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<v Speaker 2>will they act like cosmic bowling balls, migrating inward and

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<v Speaker 2>disrupting the formation of other worlds.

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<v Speaker 3>Migration is almost a certainty. The current orbits are heavily

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<v Speaker 3>influenced by the mass of the gas disc. Because WISP

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<v Speaker 3>pit to B and two C are massive enough to

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<v Speaker 3>carve deep gaps, they enter what is known as type

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<v Speaker 3>two migration.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 3>It means they become gravitationally locked to the viscous evolution

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<v Speaker 3>of the disc itself. As the disc slowly accretes onto

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<v Speaker 3>the star over millions of years, the planets will be

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<v Speaker 3>dragged inward with it.

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<v Speaker 2>So WHISP two C could migrate from fourteen AU down

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<v Speaker 2>to five AU or even become a hot Jupiter skimming

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<v Speaker 2>the surface of the star.

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<v Speaker 3>It is entirely possible. Furthermore, once the gas dissipates, the

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<v Speaker 3>dampening effect it has on the planet's eccentricities disappears.

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<v Speaker 2>Meaning their orbits could get wild.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, if wisp IT two, B and T c end

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<v Speaker 3>up in a gravitational resonance where their orbital periods align

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<v Speaker 3>in a simple integer ratio, the gravitational perturbations will amplify

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<v Speaker 3>This can lead to chaotic scattering.

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<v Speaker 2>What happens during chaotic scattering.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, one planet could be flung into a highly elliptical

742
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<v Speaker 3>orbit while the other is ejected from the system entirely.

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<v Speaker 2>Just thrown out into deep space.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, and this kind of violent orbital reshuffling is exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what we believe happened in our own Solar system during

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<v Speaker 3>the Grand Tach and the Nice Model scenarios, where Jupiter

747
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<v Speaker 3>and Saturn migrated inward and then outward, scattering rocky material

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<v Speaker 3>and icy comets throughout the inner Solar.

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<v Speaker 2>System, fundamentally shaping the environment that allowed Earth to form.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, that is the.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect connection to make. As we synthesize this entire discussion,

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<v Speaker 2>the monumental effort required to map the KBAN spectroscopy of

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<v Speaker 2>whisp It two C, to utilize the delay lines of

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<v Speaker 2>the VLTI underground tunnels, and to actively deform mirrors thousands

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<v Speaker 2>of times a second to cancel the atmosphere. All of

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<v Speaker 2>it serves a singular purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>It really does.

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<v Speaker 2>When we look at whisp It too, we aren't just

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<v Speaker 2>looking at random gas giants in equila. We're not just

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<v Speaker 2>cataloging abstract physics. We're looking into to a five million

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<v Speaker 2>year old mirror reflecting the chaotic, highly complex, and violent

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<v Speaker 2>four point six billion year old origin story of the

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<v Speaker 2>very ground we stand on.

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<v Speaker 3>We are watching the raw materials of existence organize themselves exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, the most profound aspect of that mirror

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<v Speaker 3>is what we currently cannot see. What do you mean, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>with all of our adaptive optics, the coronagraphs and the interferometry,

768
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<v Speaker 3>we are only capable of resolving the outer massive gas giants,

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<v Speaker 3>the five and ten jupiter mass titans sitting way out

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<v Speaker 3>at fourteen and sixty AU right, But the region within

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<v Speaker 3>five AU of the star, the terrestrial planet formation zone

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<v Speaker 3>equivalent to where Earth, Venus and Mars sit in our

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00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:42.039
<v Speaker 3>system that remains hidden.

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<v Speaker 2>Behind the glare of the young star.

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00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:46.599
<v Speaker 3>Yes, and behind the thickest, most optically dense regions of

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<v Speaker 3>the inner disc. Within that unseen intercrucible, tiny grains of

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<v Speaker 3>silicate dust and iron might be quietly colliding right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, as we observe the majestic orbital dance of

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<v Speaker 3>those outer gas giants, we have to acknowledge that hidden

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<v Speaker 3>deep within the blinding light, the microscopic foundations of a rocky,

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<v Speaker 3>potentially habitable Earth like world might be violently forging itself,

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<v Speaker 3>just patiently waiting for the dust to clear.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a truly remarkable realization. The fact that we

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<v Speaker 2>have the technological capacity to observe a solar system taking

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<v Speaker 2>its first breath, and the theoretical frameworks to understand the

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<v Speaker 2>mechanics driving it is a testament to the golden age

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<v Speaker 2>of astronomy who are currently living it.

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<v Speaker 3>It really is an exciting time for the field.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for joining us on this rigorous exploration of

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<v Speaker 2>whisp it too and the mechanics of planetary genesis. Keep

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<v Speaker 2>looking up and keep questioning the universe around you.
