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<v Speaker 1>Weird weir. Muscle combat is upon us.

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<v Speaker 2>Get over here, Johnny Case because she was you.

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<v Speaker 1>To fight well crazy, all right, I'm an actor. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't do this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time to become the hero you were meant to

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<v Speaker 2>be Mortal Kombat Too. Who you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, and welcome to the Culture Cast and also

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<v Speaker 1>the Projection move I am your host Chris Dashu, and

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<v Speaker 1>I am joined by the Ube cyboch. Oh, sorry, I

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<v Speaker 1>am joining. I was hoping you would do your name backwards.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you know what Nube Sibot is, right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the creators of the games names backwards.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>I never knew that Yeh ed Boone and John Tobias

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<v Speaker 1>were the creators of Mortal Kombat. So Nube Saibot is

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<v Speaker 1>just their last names backwards.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh how toasty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Jesus Jesus Christ, this guy he's already. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>On this episode of the Culture Cast in the Projection Booth,

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<v Speaker 1>we're taking a look at twenty twenty six is sequel

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty twenty one's Mortal Kombat. This film is aptly

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<v Speaker 1>titled no follow Me here, Folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Mortal Too Annihilation.

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<v Speaker 1>God damn it, I wish I wish, I wish, I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I saw an article that was like Annihilation stumbled

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<v Speaker 1>so Mortal Kombat two could run. I'm like, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Annihilation's fucking bad. Like Annihilation was talked about

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<v Speaker 1>as one of the worst videoka movies ever made for

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<v Speaker 1>the longest time.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, no, it's aamously bad special effects.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it fucking face planted like it's yeah. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>on this episode, we're gonna be talking a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty twenty six is Mortal Kombat. We will be

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<v Speaker 1>spoiling the film if that is a thing you care about. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>before we talk spoilers in the film specifically, Mike, would

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<v Speaker 1>you suggest people go check this out in theaters because

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<v Speaker 1>right now that's the only place you could see it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you like silly movies, this is a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Do not think that this is high art by any

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<v Speaker 2>stretch of the imagination. I had a fun time watching this,

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<v Speaker 2>but I also was prepped for exactly what I got

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<v Speaker 2>is Does that mean you took an before you went No, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I was prepped and ready.

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<v Speaker 1>I was fucking My wife was having to hold me

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<v Speaker 1>down in the seat, and I was pacing out in

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<v Speaker 1>the theater. Ah, I mean I would agree. I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>for me, if you watched the first movie from twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one and you thought to yourself, man, this movie

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<v Speaker 1>is really serious for something as Look, I love Mortal Komba.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my favorite fighting game series period. It is the

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<v Speaker 1>one that my parents took away when I was a child.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the one that I still play as an adult

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<v Speaker 1>more regularly than anything else. It's the one whose characters

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<v Speaker 1>I think, other than maybe Techan and a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of street Fighter, are like etched in my psyche. If

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't like how serious the first one was, this

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<v Speaker 1>one I think addresses what dumb fun Mortal Kombat is,

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<v Speaker 1>because Mortal Kombat is not a serious franchise by any

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<v Speaker 1>stretch of the imagination, and the video games have tried

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<v Speaker 1>to make it a little bit more serious. In the

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<v Speaker 1>storylines in the video game I think are more serious

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<v Speaker 1>than the movies are. But I think even in the

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<v Speaker 1>video games they're kind of still fun adjacent, if not

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<v Speaker 1>still fun depending on the game we're talking about. Uh So,

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<v Speaker 1>I would suggest if you're a fan of Mortal Kombat,

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<v Speaker 1>go watch it. I like Mike said, if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of dumb action movies. I would suggest watching it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're a fan of Carl Urban, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say go watch it because there were very few

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<v Speaker 1>movies that he's the fucking lead in.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh well, one of my first questions maybe not.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, he's as much the lead in this

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<v Speaker 1>movie as he is and a lot of the other things.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the lead or one of the lead characters in

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<v Speaker 1>Star Trek, Dread. Yeah, guess he's the main character in

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<v Speaker 1>Dread more.

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<v Speaker 2>Than he's definitely the main character in Dred. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 2>would think this is more akin to like this is

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<v Speaker 2>Thor Ragnock. You would think from the trailer that this

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<v Speaker 2>is purely a Johnny Cage movie. And I was there

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<v Speaker 2>for it. I love Carl Urban. You know, you just

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<v Speaker 2>named off quite a few of the films, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the franchises, the films that I love that he's in.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how many times I've seen Judge Dread,

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<v Speaker 2>probably eighty or ninety times. I'm not exaggerating, And yeah

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's Star Trek, Lord of the Rings.

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<v Speaker 1>Lord of the Rings, one of my favorites, Doom and

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<v Speaker 1>No I'm not kidding. He's actually one of the better

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<v Speaker 1>parts of that move a movie that is really talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>a movie that looks like it's going to be The

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<v Speaker 1>Rocks movie, and it's actually Karl Urbans.

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<v Speaker 2>He really is so much fun to watch. And as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as I saw that first trailer for Mortal Kometu,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was a long time ago, because let's not

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<v Speaker 2>forget that this was delayed for quite a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>which is never a good sign. But when I saw

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<v Speaker 2>that first trailer and it was set up to be basically,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a Johnny Cage thing, and he was just

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<v Speaker 2>the star of the whole trailer, talked about like his career,

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<v Speaker 2>and they had the whole model Taje that we see

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<v Speaker 2>in here, where it's like look at all these movie

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<v Speaker 2>season and all this and him stuck at this convention

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff. I'm like, yes, yes, this is I am

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<v Speaker 2>so here for this. This is gonna be great. And

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<v Speaker 2>then when I learned there were other characters in the movie,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, okay, And really, I would say Kitana

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<v Speaker 2>is probably our main character. Though in a movie like this,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so hard to tell because there's I'll say it,

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<v Speaker 2>there's too many characters, too many fucking characters. They pay

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<v Speaker 2>so much service to that mythology, and I don't give

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<v Speaker 2>a shit about the mythology of Mortal Kombat. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I never I played Mortal Kombat when it was

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<v Speaker 1>Was gonna ask you, what is your exposure to Mortal

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<v Speaker 1>Kombat really.

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<v Speaker 2>Just basically Pinball Pietez just playing it on a machine,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I did not have the game. I don't remember

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<v Speaker 2>that because it was the whole thing of like was

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<v Speaker 2>it street Fighter two was SMEs and then what Mortal

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<v Speaker 2>Kombat was? Sega?

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<v Speaker 1>Does that right? It was? It was so Mortal Kombat

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<v Speaker 1>was was it was green Blood on Super Nintendo and

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<v Speaker 1>on Sega they allowed it to have the red blood

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<v Speaker 1>because what the issue was, so that kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>censored the game on.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not play it very much at all when

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<v Speaker 2>it came to just like I would literally just pay

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<v Speaker 2>quarters for it. So I never was sitting at home

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<v Speaker 2>or sitting in my college dorm room, sitting in my

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<v Speaker 2>college house with my friends. I was there playing Street

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<v Speaker 2>Fighter too. I was you know, I was being Blanca,

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<v Speaker 2>I was being chun Lee. I was being e Honda,

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<v Speaker 2>Edmund Honda all those kind of things, And I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like that the the amount of mythology that

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<v Speaker 2>you got in the SNS booklet of like oh Edmund

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<v Speaker 2>Honda was raised in Japan and blah blah blah, like

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<v Speaker 2>Chun Lee's father was killed. That's as much mythology as

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<v Speaker 2>I need. I don't need all this stuff, So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I will say kind of going back to do I

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<v Speaker 2>recommend this should you see it in the movie theater,

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<v Speaker 2>those kind of things. If you liked the original Mortal

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<v Speaker 2>Kombat as in the Paul W. S Anderson film, this

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<v Speaker 2>is more akin to that. This is that type of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>The special effects are decent. I would say the special

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<v Speaker 2>effects are probably better than the twenty twenty one film.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of those are real fucking rough. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>Goro looks better in the Paul W. S Anderson film

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<v Speaker 2>than he does in the Simon mcquad film.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's like, and that's the problem. Like I went

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<v Speaker 1>and rewatched the twenty twenty one film over the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>before I watched this the sequel, and one of my

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<v Speaker 1>close friends who he and I like, Mortal Kombat is

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<v Speaker 1>one of like our things, like our kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>points of reference. Like, we love Mortal Kombat collectively, it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things we talk about. It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things we bitch about because of the way they've

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<v Speaker 1>last movies came out. The first movies came out. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things I said to him that really

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<v Speaker 1>triggered him was when I rewatched the first movie, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't hate the Cole Young character as much as the

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<v Speaker 1>first time I watched it, because it in the the

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<v Speaker 1>immediacy of him being inserted into this world, character had

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<v Speaker 1>already gone away and I had accepted it and whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fine, like, and this movie, boy, well, this movie

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<v Speaker 1>really says good night to that fucking character. Uh. That

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<v Speaker 1>first movie was so self serious, and it's because of

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<v Speaker 1>that character. It's because they created a new character and

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<v Speaker 1>he's the eyes of the audience. Why didn't you just

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<v Speaker 1>make that first movie, the Johnny Cage movie. I don't understand, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand why you would make this movie after

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<v Speaker 1>having made that movie when this movie is a sequel

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<v Speaker 1>to that movie, and this movie is doing what that

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<v Speaker 1>movie did, and this movie sidelines the character from that

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<v Speaker 1>first movie. I know nobody was a fan of the

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<v Speaker 1>character in the first movie, but then they should have

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<v Speaker 1>just not made him. They should have just they had

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking guy from Earth realm. They even had a

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<v Speaker 1>woman from Earth Realm that they could have used as

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<v Speaker 1>the fish out of Water character, and instead they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just make somebody up, Like, but why.

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<v Speaker 2>That made no sense to me? Yeah, and like I

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<v Speaker 2>even as a not I'm not gonna say a non

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<v Speaker 2>fan because it makes it sound like I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there are a lot of things about Moral Kombat

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<v Speaker 2>that I love. I mean, you know, I made the

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<v Speaker 2>little toasty.

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<v Speaker 1>Reference me talking about this movie with me. If you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like Moral Kombat, you wouldn't have gone to the

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<v Speaker 1>fucking theaters and seen it. Like let's exactly get in

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<v Speaker 1>front of anybody who's like you guys just don't like it. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>trust me, my bank account and the money I spent

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<v Speaker 1>to fucking see it and the amount of money I've

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<v Speaker 1>spent on the Mortal Kombat games is reason enough to

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<v Speaker 1>believe I like Mortal Kombat. Okay, oh yeah, so does

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<v Speaker 1>Mike like I.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, god, did you know the whole finish him?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Wallless Victory all that kind of stuff, And it's so

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<v Speaker 2>funny when you like, I kept waiting during this film,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not getting into spoiler territory, but I kept

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for like, a is there gonna be like a

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<v Speaker 2>finish him or a get over here, those kind of

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<v Speaker 2>things like that is so jammed into that first film,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's the character with the hat and sorry, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Yes, when he kills someone in the

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<v Speaker 2>first movie, he like stops and like close up flawless

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<v Speaker 1>Makes my skin crawl like it. And what's funny is

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same director from the first movie, but not

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<v Speaker 2>He's written so much shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's just absolute, but but but but he

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<v Speaker 1>has co written Coyote versus Acme, which looks interesting, and

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<v Speaker 1>Kong ex Godzilla is probably the least offensive of the

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, And I've that's another one liked. You're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about my boife's favorite movie. When you're talking about Dread

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<v Speaker 2>calling ex Godzilla. I mean, you see the stats when

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<v Speaker 2>how many times, like she was watching plaques off as

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<v Speaker 2>somebody else's server, and he was like, is there something

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<v Speaker 1>So I'd like to point out as much as Jeremy

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<v Speaker 1>for you. I don't know if you've seen the Exorcis

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<v Speaker 1>his other track record may be not great, but I

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really only holding against him Moonnight, just because I

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<v Speaker 1>Some people love it, not even watched it, haven't even

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<v Speaker 1>approached It doesn't seem to have any bearing on anything,

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<v Speaker 1>so why would I.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care if it's true to the character or not.

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<v Speaker 2>I just didn't need to see the whole split personality thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And oh, is that there's there a third personality? I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>though granted I didn't see the last season. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if that holds up. And yeah, like, why did

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<v Speaker 2>we have a remake of Death Note? I haven't watched it,

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<v Speaker 2>so maybe it's fucking fantastic. But I saw the original

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<v Speaker 1>Spoilers, it's it's not you're good, and the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>that's good about it is Willem Dafoe's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, and then the original has fucking Chairman Kaga

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<v Speaker 2>as one of the characters. I don't need anything else

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<v Speaker 2>other than Chairmankaga there, so thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's not. It's not great, But Willem Dafoe is

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<v Speaker 1>not bad. I don't remember this. No, he's not no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's never bad. He'd be great in movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Put Willmo Mortal Komba, and the thing about the first

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<v Speaker 2>Mortal Kombat that kind of did the same bait and

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<v Speaker 2>switch when it comes to the marketing of it where

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<v Speaker 2>I believe now tell me if I'm wrong, But I

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<v Speaker 2>remember seeing the fight between Scorpion and Sub Zero months

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<v Speaker 2>and months before the movie came out, and just being like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>this looks really cool, like old school Samurai kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and the shots of that cool weapon that Scorpion has,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm just like, oh man, this is gonna be great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And the movie starts with that whole sequence and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just like, oh my god, this is gonna be fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you come to and I apologize because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure that your mothers and fathers love you a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>but you come to a group of absolute nothing actors

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<v Speaker 2>that have no charisma whatsoever. I mean, Jessica McNamee might

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<v Speaker 2>Sonia Blade has nothing like. She's just a blank like

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<v Speaker 2>Jack's nothing like and those ridiculous chicken arms that he has,

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<v Speaker 2>Like through the you know, like a third of the

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<v Speaker 2>movie like just so much of this and the only

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<v Speaker 2>is Kano, and then he's just an annoying dickhead. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's like I just did not like any of the

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<v Speaker 2>characters when I watched the original one, and so when

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<v Speaker 2>when they had Carl Urban as Johnny Cage, I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever Urban is in, sign me up. I'm here for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm more of a fan of Carl's earl as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to Carl's Urban. Is that right? No, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just like his name is Urban, get it? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>get it? Get it?

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<v Speaker 2>Or or they will say Urban if you're Howaine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'd like to And okay, so I think we

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<v Speaker 1>need to. I think it's time to transition to spoilers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>can I say something without people turning this off? Carl

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<v Speaker 1>Urban I think is kind of miscast in.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh absolutely, he is way no offense. Carl Urban, way

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<v Speaker 2>too old for that's absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't even go that far. Like what's funny is?

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<v Speaker 1>And I know you're not a super big into wrestling guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know who Mike the miz Mizannin is no

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<v Speaker 1>so he's from your kind of neck of the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>He's from Ohio. He's a pretty well known wrestler. He

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<v Speaker 1>actually like campaigned to be Johnny Cage in the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think he would have worked better just on paper,

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<v Speaker 1>because his whole personality is that, like Johnny Cage before

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<v Speaker 1>he falls on hard times, and if he were to

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<v Speaker 1>fall on hard times, you could believe that he'd play

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<v Speaker 1>a character who'd be sitting at that table, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with the fifteen dollars to sign a photo type shit,

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<v Speaker 1>because like there are wrestlers that do that in real life.

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<v Speaker 1>They go to conventions and do that. Like Carl Urbin

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<v Speaker 1>just isn't known if he's too good of an actor.

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<v Speaker 2>But he stands out like a sore thumb because he

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<v Speaker 2>is too good of an actor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes he is. I mean he's too charismatic, he's too good,

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<v Speaker 1>and he just doesn't play Johnny Cage the right way.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if it's his fault. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's his well, I don't even think it's the writing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is. It's maybe a combination

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<v Speaker 1>of the two. But this is like it's so far

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<v Speaker 1>afield from Johnny Cage. He's not enough of a dickhead,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's not even a dickhead enough, Like Johnny Cage

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of an unrepented asshole. Well even when he

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<v Speaker 1>gets married to Sony and Blade and they have a daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>he's still an asshole. And it mellows him a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit because now he's a dad, but he's still a

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<v Speaker 2>I never would play as Johnny Cage, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he was just like the pretty boy guy. And now

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<v Speaker 2>let me clarify real cook and I said that Carl

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<v Speaker 2>Urban is too old for the role. He's too old

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<v Speaker 2>to play young Johnny Cage, like the Johnny Cage that

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen in the other films, opposite all these young people.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely now he if he was the protagonist of this film,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was much more of his journey of being

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<v Speaker 2>an unrepented asshole, somebody who is completely spoiled, who really

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<v Speaker 2>is slumming it by being like sitting at that convention

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<v Speaker 2>table in the super sad state of Affairs, gets thrust

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<v Speaker 2>into Mortal Kombat, blows his chance, fucks it up, has

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just as I wanted him to not take

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<v Speaker 2>things seriously and just be like, you know, making fun

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<v Speaker 2>of every single but like give him more of the

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<v Speaker 2>Kano role, almost like Johnny Cage, the hot shot turns

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<v Speaker 2>into Kano the asshole kind of guy who just doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>take anything fucking seriously and then has to have Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my God, forgive me for saying this a character arc

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<v Speaker 2>because then he like finally comes to know like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is really serious shit and like, you know, people's

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<v Speaker 2>lives are on the line, and look at how horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not Shao Khan, who's the big bad of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Shao Khan. Okay, sorry, I get him mixed up with

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<v Speaker 2>Luke Sung Shang song. Thank you yes, And I'm just like, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like give me that arc. Like he has an arc,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's way too quick. It just happens very quickly,

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<v Speaker 2>like that fight with Baraka just like turns some around

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<v Speaker 2>very fast. And I'm like, oh, okay, like great, but

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, Kitana is probably the real protagonist of this,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I know it sounds like I'm bagging on

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<v Speaker 2>this movie. I still I had a lot of fun,

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<v Speaker 2>but they all through the whole thing, with Kitana and

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<v Speaker 2>Jade and Shao Khan. All I could think of was

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<v Speaker 2>Danos Gomora and Nebula Nebula?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. All I could think of was that I was like, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>Jade's is a Nebula, and get Gamora is a Kitana

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<v Speaker 2>and Danos is Shao Khan and like the whole relationship

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<v Speaker 2>of them and everything is just for me. It was

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<v Speaker 2>completely that I was waiting for him to hand her

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<v Speaker 2>a little dagger and talk about how perfectly balanced it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't this movie feel a little emcuvi like, doesn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>It does feel a little emcy like. It feels a

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<v Speaker 1>little like, oh, we got this jumblow kooky characters and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna throw them all together and see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>The MCU has done better, and the mc has done

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<v Speaker 1>more interestingly, I think is kind of the way I

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<v Speaker 1>more interesting cast of characters. And that's not to say

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't. I just don't think that they're they're not

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<v Speaker 1>interested in mining that so much, and for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever they kind of start approaching it, they shy away

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<v Speaker 1>from it, like give us something interesting to chew on,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't see what the problem is, Like, are

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<v Speaker 1>we afraid to have a character with a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of baggage or a little bit of emotional like steaks

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<v Speaker 1>in the thing, like the opening with Katana and her

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<v Speaker 1>dad getting fucking murdered King Jared, Like that's about as

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<v Speaker 1>much emotional kind of like resonance as we get with

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<v Speaker 1>this movie, genuinely. And it's like in the first five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not asking for much, but I am asking

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<v Speaker 1>for a movie to understand, like, if you're gonna tell

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<v Speaker 1>a film version of the video game story, people are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna expect a little bit more character depth, a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more. I get more character depth out of the

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<v Speaker 1>video games story. I know Johnny Cage in the video

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<v Speaker 1>game is a much more well defined character. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying it's hard. I'm not saying it's easy or

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<v Speaker 1>hard to do that here. I just don't think they're

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<v Speaker 2>No, I totally agree, Yeah, And I really did want more,

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<v Speaker 2>Like even before the movie starts, like when when we're

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<v Speaker 2>introduced to Johnny Cage, like we get the one scene

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<v Speaker 2>from the film, I would have liked to have seen

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<v Speaker 2>like more of stuff. And I think even in that again,

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<v Speaker 2>going back to that trailer. It was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the star of Cool Hand Cage and Far To Cage

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<v Speaker 2>and all this stuff, and I'm like, okay, so he's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of basically Steven Seagal kung you know mime.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's one of the ones in the video

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<v Speaker 1>game he's kung fu mime. So it's like, yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>adjacent character, Like yeah, he's like Kasagall van Damn. But

415
00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:50.440
<v Speaker 1>they just don't lean into it hard enough, Like no,

416
00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:53.400
<v Speaker 1>they they they don't lean into it at all. Really,

417
00:21:53.519 --> 00:21:54.960
<v Speaker 1>like one scene is not enough.

418
00:21:55.240 --> 00:21:57.799
<v Speaker 2>No, no, it really should have been, like because like

419
00:21:58.000 --> 00:22:02.599
<v Speaker 2>him going back to his car and putting the unsigned

420
00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:06.319
<v Speaker 2>unsold posters down and putting his shit in his trunk

421
00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:08.920
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, I'm like, yeah, this is I want to

422
00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:11.799
<v Speaker 2>see this. I want to see I mean that kind

423
00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:14.119
<v Speaker 2>of reminded me of Galaxy Quest, where it was just

424
00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:16.359
<v Speaker 2>like okay, yeah, this is the sad life of these

425
00:22:16.440 --> 00:22:20.400
<v Speaker 2>stars all these years later going to these conventions like

426
00:22:20.839 --> 00:22:23.319
<v Speaker 2>it kind of reminded me a little bit of the

427
00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Bruce Campbell movie where he basically played Bruce my name

428
00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:30.880
<v Speaker 2>is Bruce. Yeah, kind of reminded me of that, just

429
00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:34.400
<v Speaker 2>like sending himself up kind of thing. And I was like, yeah,

430
00:22:34.440 --> 00:22:36.640
<v Speaker 2>this is pretty cool, you know, like when I saw

431
00:22:36.720 --> 00:22:38.960
<v Speaker 2>him because even sorry I keep talking about the trailer,

432
00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:41.400
<v Speaker 2>but the trailer was you know, see Johnny Cage in

433
00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Uncaged Fury. Like I showed that to Andrea and she's

434
00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:47.240
<v Speaker 2>just like, oh, yeah, let's see this. And I go,

435
00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:49.319
<v Speaker 2>do you know what this actually is? And shit, no,

436
00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:52.039
<v Speaker 2>no clue. And I'm like, this is a Mortal Kombat movie.

437
00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:55.440
<v Speaker 2>She's oh, okay, like she doesn't know Johnny Cage. So

438
00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:57.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, no, this is gonna be great, like

439
00:22:57.480 --> 00:22:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Carl Urban and a Mortal Kombat movie. That's gonna be great.

440
00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:02.119
<v Speaker 2>But it kind of gets lost in the sauce, like

441
00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:04.680
<v Speaker 2>we spend a lot of time with Kaitana, we spend

442
00:23:05.279 --> 00:23:08.359
<v Speaker 2>some good amount of time with Kano and with Jacks

443
00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:10.920
<v Speaker 2>and all this. I'm like, I don't really Yang, yeah,

444
00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:14.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't really care very much about these other people.

445
00:23:14.920 --> 00:23:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Just you know, it's like, you know, it's funny because

446
00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:20.200
<v Speaker 2>of course before the movie, they showed a trailer for

447
00:23:20.200 --> 00:23:22.759
<v Speaker 2>a Street Fighter too, and I'm just like, okay, you

448
00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:25.200
<v Speaker 2>know this, this is the exact same problem, like at

449
00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:28.319
<v Speaker 2>least with the first one or all of its flaws,

450
00:23:28.759 --> 00:23:30.920
<v Speaker 2>but at least with that one. You know, Jean Claude

451
00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:33.119
<v Speaker 2>van Dam is the fucking lead of that movie. There's

452
00:23:33.279 --> 00:23:36.279
<v Speaker 2>no if ans or butts. Sometimes he gets lost in

453
00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:38.519
<v Speaker 2>that movie a little bit, but it's like, Okay, this

454
00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:42.720
<v Speaker 2>is a JCDD movie, no matter what, Like everybody else

455
00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:46.079
<v Speaker 2>can just like you know, Pat, go along, go along.

456
00:23:46.519 --> 00:23:48.440
<v Speaker 2>And again, I'm like, I do hope we don't get

457
00:23:48.519 --> 00:23:52.359
<v Speaker 2>lost in all of the fucking mythology of street Fighter too,

458
00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:55.519
<v Speaker 2>because they've had so many versions of it. I'm sure

459
00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:58.680
<v Speaker 2>they've built up that mythology so much. I don't need it.

460
00:23:58.839 --> 00:24:02.440
<v Speaker 2>I just need fighting. I need a big green monster

461
00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:05.720
<v Speaker 2>with yellow hair that can turn electric power on.

462
00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Do you know who plays him in that movie? No?

463
00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:11.599
<v Speaker 2>Is it Jason Malmala. Oh, jesus. I also saw the

464
00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:15.359
<v Speaker 2>trailer for Supergirl and saw him show up as Lobo

465
00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:15.680
<v Speaker 2>in that.

466
00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:20.240
<v Speaker 1>I like Mama, I like him enough. I think when

467
00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:23.039
<v Speaker 1>they let him just kind of be, he's good. And

468
00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:24.920
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing with Carl Urban, Like when they just

469
00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:26.079
<v Speaker 1>let him be, he's great.

470
00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:27.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's fantastic.

471
00:24:27.160 --> 00:24:31.079
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like they they were forcing Carl Urbin into this,

472
00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:34.359
<v Speaker 1>and I mean again, like I can think of at

473
00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:36.400
<v Speaker 1>least Mike the Miz would have done better. I just

474
00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:39.720
<v Speaker 1>got Carl Urban just what he brings to something is

475
00:24:39.960 --> 00:24:42.759
<v Speaker 1>not this energy, and it never has been. And it

476
00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:45.200
<v Speaker 1>was always like I was hopeful because it is Carl

477
00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Urbin and he's such a good actor that like, even

478
00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:50.440
<v Speaker 1>though this is against type for him, I still kind

479
00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:53.599
<v Speaker 1>of hoped against hope, well, even if it's against type,

480
00:24:53.720 --> 00:24:56.319
<v Speaker 1>he'll still be able to like elevate it because he's

481
00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:58.680
<v Speaker 1>a great actor. But to your point, like I guess,

482
00:24:58.720 --> 00:25:00.839
<v Speaker 1>I didn't also think, well, what happens if he just

483
00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:04.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of isn't given anything interesting to do? And that's

484
00:25:04.720 --> 00:25:07.119
<v Speaker 1>more or less what happens. Like you said, the focus

485
00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:10.160
<v Speaker 1>of the movie is on actors and characters that aren't

486
00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:13.759
<v Speaker 1>nearly as interesting or entertaining. And I know people want

487
00:25:13.799 --> 00:25:15.839
<v Speaker 1>to say, like, well this has gotten better than Mortal

488
00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Kombat Annihilation, Like it actually has the same fucking problem

489
00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:23.519
<v Speaker 1>that that movie did, which is too many fucking characters.

490
00:25:23.880 --> 00:25:25.799
<v Speaker 1>I will say, at least in this movie, they're not

491
00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:30.519
<v Speaker 1>like isn't that right? Sub Zero? Right, isn't that right? Scorpion?

492
00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:34.240
<v Speaker 2>It does feel a little less stunty and stuff because

493
00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:36.880
<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of characters in that first one

494
00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:39.759
<v Speaker 2>where I'm just like, uh, this must be a character

495
00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:43.160
<v Speaker 2>added after I quit playing this, like the woman with

496
00:25:43.319 --> 00:25:44.880
<v Speaker 2>the wings and stuff, and.

497
00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:48.240
<v Speaker 1>That's like those Combat four or five creation yep.

498
00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:51.559
<v Speaker 2>And again, don't give your character wings unless you can

499
00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:54.680
<v Speaker 2>actually animate them to look like they are actually flying,

500
00:25:54.720 --> 00:25:56.680
<v Speaker 2>because it looks bad.

501
00:25:57.160 --> 00:25:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Like well, we're sitting right now in twenty twenty six

502
00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:03.039
<v Speaker 1>in the Age of the Punisher and the bad VFX

503
00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:05.279
<v Speaker 1>over at Disney, So are we really surprised.

504
00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:07.640
<v Speaker 2>No, No, I'm not. I'm not.

505
00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess I just hold these companies to a higher

506
00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:11.559
<v Speaker 1>set of standards that they don't care.

507
00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. I mean, you know, like the stuff with

508
00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:18.440
<v Speaker 2>the you know, the fights with the uh sub zero

509
00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:22.799
<v Speaker 2>and Scorpion and stuff like that looked fine, you know,

510
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:25.359
<v Speaker 2>because it was more about the actors and more about

511
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:28.680
<v Speaker 2>the choreography rather than the special effects. And the special

512
00:26:28.680 --> 00:26:30.559
<v Speaker 2>effects were very limited when it came to like the

513
00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:33.200
<v Speaker 2>whole chain the spike on the chain kind of thing

514
00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:35.720
<v Speaker 2>didn't really mean more than that. And the ice effects

515
00:26:35.720 --> 00:26:38.480
<v Speaker 2>I thought looked good. But yeah, it's just kind of strange.

516
00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:42.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't know it's but yeah, I it's a very

517
00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:47.640
<v Speaker 2>uneven marriage for me of the Katana story and the

518
00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:50.960
<v Speaker 2>Johnny Cage story. It really feels like they are two

519
00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:54.640
<v Speaker 2>different movies that are really vying for which movie is this?

520
00:26:54.839 --> 00:26:59.079
<v Speaker 2>And somehow they they end up blending, but very roughly.

521
00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:02.400
<v Speaker 2>But I again just had a lot of fun, man

522
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:05.960
<v Speaker 2>I I that Baraka fight actually worked for me. I

523
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:08.839
<v Speaker 2>liked Baraka, and yeah, he does feel like he's right

524
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:11.279
<v Speaker 2>out of a James Gunn movie, you know, like this

525
00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:15.279
<v Speaker 2>whole thing of the whole village of Baraka's people and stuff.

526
00:27:16.279 --> 00:27:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, here's Peter, Where's Peter Quill? Where's he's gonna land

527
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:19.720
<v Speaker 1>on this planet?

528
00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:22.559
<v Speaker 2>Exactly? Well, yeah, I mean basically the stuff that Carl

529
00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Urban does when he starts doing the Bruce Lee one

530
00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:28.480
<v Speaker 2>hundred hand kind of thing, It's like, yeah, this feels

531
00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:30.039
<v Speaker 2>very much like Dan's off bro.

532
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:33.200
<v Speaker 1>You know. Well, and I will say it made me

533
00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:35.319
<v Speaker 1>laugh at the framing device of the movie is him

534
00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:39.720
<v Speaker 1>telling this story. He's recounting the story to the Tarcattans

535
00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Baraka included Zee. Those are the parts of the movie

536
00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:44.519
<v Speaker 1>with Carl Urban that worked for me. Where he's like

537
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:47.519
<v Speaker 1>interacting with Baraka, and Baraka's is just kind of big,

538
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:51.400
<v Speaker 1>dumb like cotton, which I think is a little unfair

539
00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>to the character of Baraka because in the video games

540
00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>he's a much more interesting, kind of pitiable character, where

541
00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:59.759
<v Speaker 1>it's like the people that got that disease were normal

542
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:03.720
<v Speaker 1>people and now they're like mutated and they're like sequestered

543
00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:06.720
<v Speaker 1>away like leopards. That's the video game version of that.

544
00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:08.799
<v Speaker 1>The movie is a lot more fun. The movie is

545
00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot more upbeat, and nobody's in like pain and hurting.

546
00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:16.160
<v Speaker 1>You know. This version of Baraka is pretty much just drax.

547
00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, absolutely, this.

548
00:28:18.119 --> 00:28:22.039
<v Speaker 1>Is the mcuification of this is like pretty wild to me,

549
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:26.200
<v Speaker 1>even going as far as to not trusting female characters

550
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:27.279
<v Speaker 1>to be the leads of your movie.

551
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:31.319
<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, because it's like, Okay, she should be the

552
00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:34.559
<v Speaker 2>leads of this movie. Maybe, like okay, should it be

553
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:38.079
<v Speaker 2>the Katana story, should it be the Johnny Kage story? Yeah?

554
00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:40.720
<v Speaker 2>I guess we can't leave it up, because I mean, really,

555
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:44.599
<v Speaker 2>she's got them more compelling narrative, you know, and her

556
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:47.000
<v Speaker 2>whole question for revenge and all this kind of stuff,

557
00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:50.200
<v Speaker 2>and like, you know, I get I get lost as

558
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:53.160
<v Speaker 2>a non Mortal Kombat guy when it's just like, oh,

559
00:28:53.319 --> 00:28:56.920
<v Speaker 2>you can bring people back from the dead, like.

560
00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>All the time with Wanton Abandon, characters dying does not

561
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>matter at all. Throw characters dying in this franchise out

562
00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:09.240
<v Speaker 1>the window, like I mean completely, I'm not even kidding.

563
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Like one of the places they go is literally just

564
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:13.440
<v Speaker 1>hell where the characters are hanging out like.

565
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah. When they go and find a scorpion

566
00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:22.079
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, oh, okay, yeah, all right, but yeah,

567
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:25.119
<v Speaker 2>her mother being dead and everything, I'm like, all right,

568
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:28.160
<v Speaker 2>this is interesting. And they have like that head thing

569
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:30.960
<v Speaker 2>going on because she got her head split open, and

570
00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:32.720
<v Speaker 2>I was like, okay, well, when you get brought back

571
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:34.359
<v Speaker 2>from the dead, do you get healed do you not?

572
00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:37.640
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know, like it just felt very strange,

573
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:40.519
<v Speaker 2>and this whole thing that, like, well, the.

574
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Idea that.

575
00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:47.279
<v Speaker 2>Lord Raydon is a god and they're stealing his power

576
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:51.359
<v Speaker 2>and all this and trying to make shau Kan immortal.

577
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:57.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, Okay, this is interesting. I guess maybe very.

578
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:01.759
<v Speaker 1>Well just explained or defined and it just kind of yeah, yeah, Well,

579
00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I actually find the scene where Cole and chaucandeby fight

580
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>to be very funny, because holy shit, Like, I mean,

581
00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:13.319
<v Speaker 1>what a repudiation of your first movie, like by oh yeah,

582
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:16.559
<v Speaker 1>why he gets the most brutals death in the entire movie.

583
00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:20.559
<v Speaker 2>Oh, the audience in my theater went fucking crazy for that.

584
00:30:20.839 --> 00:30:24.279
<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. Yes, I was laughing my ass off and

585
00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:27.400
<v Speaker 2>people behind me were cheering. It was really nice.

586
00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they, I mean they they put a character into

587
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.599
<v Speaker 1>that first movie that was unnecessary. I don't understand why

588
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>they didn't just do Johnny Cage. If you're gonna just

589
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:39.319
<v Speaker 1>do Johnny Cage anyways, why not just do him then?

590
00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Like you don't have to create a character who's the

591
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:43.960
<v Speaker 1>eyes of the audience when you have a character that

592
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:46.559
<v Speaker 1>acts as the eyes of the audience already, Like he's

593
00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:50.400
<v Speaker 1>an earth realmer and he's American, Like no, I don't know,

594
00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Like it was funny hearing Carl Urban's Australian accent coming

595
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:54.680
<v Speaker 1>through from time to time.

596
00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh in him versus Josh Lawson and I'm just like, now,

597
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:05.319
<v Speaker 2>be very ironic if Josh Launlasson sorry was not Australian,

598
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:08.319
<v Speaker 2>but he is. He's from Queensland, and like when he

599
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:16.240
<v Speaker 2>is over Australian, Oh my god, he is just like Rocky,

600
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:19.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, like putting some shrimp on the barberie kind

601
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:22.000
<v Speaker 2>of thing, going to out back in ordering a bloomin onion.

602
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:24.799
<v Speaker 2>And then you got Carl Urban just he does a

603
00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:27.000
<v Speaker 2>good American accent, but you can tell he was kind

604
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:29.359
<v Speaker 2>of fighting, and I'm just like, man, this guy is

605
00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:33.359
<v Speaker 2>the ultimate Australian versus Carl Urban who is just trying

606
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:37.119
<v Speaker 2>to be American higher but Dad bless him and Josh Lawson,

607
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:39.519
<v Speaker 2>like I said before, he seems to have a lot

608
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:42.759
<v Speaker 2>of fun in this movie and he makes it more

609
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:45.960
<v Speaker 2>fun for me. I'm like, oh okay, yeah, Like once

610
00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:48.359
<v Speaker 2>he comes on to screen, I was like, this guy's

611
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:51.720
<v Speaker 2>actually pretty funny. Like I don't remember liking him at

612
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:53.640
<v Speaker 2>all in the first movie, and I have to say,

613
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:57.160
<v Speaker 2>like total cards on the table, I barely remember the

614
00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:00.000
<v Speaker 2>first movie. I for sure saw it and I remember

615
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:03.039
<v Speaker 2>were loving that first like ten minutes of the movie

616
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:07.200
<v Speaker 2>whatever that Scorpion sub Zero part was. But after that,

617
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:10.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, wow, this is this feels like really

618
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:15.119
<v Speaker 2>like straight to DVD or street to VHS dreck. That

619
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:18.400
<v Speaker 2>first movie. I just was like really.

620
00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:22.839
<v Speaker 1>Screaming my friend it was it was vod especial.

621
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<v Speaker 2>Well it was also during the pandemic, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The joke I was gonna make at the beginning was

623
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:29.519
<v Speaker 1>whether or not people should pay to go see the movie.

624
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Pay to go see the movie you undoubtedly watched on

625
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:35.079
<v Speaker 1>HBO Max during the pandemic. Pay to go see the

626
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:37.359
<v Speaker 1>sequel to that movie, because I didn't pay to see

627
00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>the first movie. It was a fucking twenty twenty one,

628
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:45.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, pandemic dump surprise, you know. Fuck Like That's

629
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<v Speaker 1>the other thing, Like this movie feels like more of

630
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>a movie than that movie did. That movie felt like

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00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:51.559
<v Speaker 1>pandemic entertainment.

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00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:54.319
<v Speaker 2>Like I didn't pay for the first movie, and I've

633
00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:57.319
<v Speaker 2>still felt ripped off fair.

634
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that first movie is just so fuck self serious,

635
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:04.799
<v Speaker 1>and I don't I don't understand why, because Mortal Kombat

636
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>is not a self serious franchise by any stretch of

637
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<v Speaker 1>the air.

638
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:11.480
<v Speaker 2>No, not when you've got you know, people ripping out

639
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:19.160
<v Speaker 2>each other's spines and stuff and babacation and Babalitiah and

640
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:20.720
<v Speaker 2>animalities and all.

641
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Those rings, ships and everything else. Yeah, there's too much

642
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>humor in Mortal Kombat for it to be taken this seriously.

643
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>And I would go as far as to say this

644
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>movie is a step in the right direction, but even

645
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:38.400
<v Speaker 1>it is too self serious still even now absolutely to

646
00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:41.720
<v Speaker 1>self like having it open with Katana's dad. Yet it's

647
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:46.480
<v Speaker 1>more like nobody fucking cares, like this is not why

648
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:49.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm not here for this, and I do think it

649
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:51.559
<v Speaker 1>is a bit of a bait and switch again because

650
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:54.119
<v Speaker 1>the first movie was sold as Scorpion and sub Zero,

651
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:56.160
<v Speaker 1>in this movie is sold as Johnny Cage. Is like,

652
00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:59.079
<v Speaker 1>it's neither of these neither of these movies are neither

653
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:00.960
<v Speaker 1>of these things. And shit, if you really want to

654
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:04.519
<v Speaker 1>get like really like like nitpicky about it, this movie

655
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:06.279
<v Speaker 1>is more of a Johnny Cage movie than the first

656
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:09.880
<v Speaker 1>movie is a sub Zero and Scorpion absolutely, because the

657
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:12.119
<v Speaker 1>sub Zero and Scorpion in that first movie is two

658
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:14.599
<v Speaker 1>fucking scenes and that's it. Yeah.

659
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh you have you have helped me break the curse.

660
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:19.760
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you. Thank you.

661
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Se next movie, yeah, like okay, like I'm I'm sorry

662
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:27.039
<v Speaker 1>that we couldn't get you Hiroyuki Sonada away from Shogun

663
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:30.199
<v Speaker 1>for more than five minutes. Oh yeah, or West World,

664
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess season two or three, whichever, the one that's

665
00:34:34.039 --> 00:34:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Samurai World he's in as well, so and he's so good.

666
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:39.679
<v Speaker 1>I love it as party fucking movie.

667
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, he is fantastic and yeah, like the

668
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:44.360
<v Speaker 2>only reason I haven't talked about him because he has

669
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:47.039
<v Speaker 2>some fuck all to do in this movie. It's another

670
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:49.280
<v Speaker 2>one of those like like you're saying, like that first

671
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:52.119
<v Speaker 2>movie should have been his movie, Like he is a

672
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:55.760
<v Speaker 2>great fucking actor, and then you give me your Jackson's

673
00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:58.199
<v Speaker 2>You're sown your blades all these people, and I'm just like,

674
00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:00.760
<v Speaker 2>I give a shit about these will get me back

675
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:02.800
<v Speaker 2>to this guy. He's a real fucking actor.

676
00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, and I was gonna say, Ludy Lynn as lu

677
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:09.679
<v Speaker 1>Kang is probably the least non charismatic of the main bunch,

678
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, you know, toddanobu Asano is not given

679
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:15.880
<v Speaker 1>much to do as Lord Raydon, Like he's effectively the

680
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:19.920
<v Speaker 1>Leonardo of the group. Lukang should be Leonardo, but he's

681
00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:22.440
<v Speaker 1>less so he's kind of interesting from time to time.

682
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:27.239
<v Speaker 2>He is no Christopher Lambert, who is really I know, yeah,

683
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:31.440
<v Speaker 2>I means Christopher Lambert, so that move is he even

684
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:38.400
<v Speaker 2>James remark No, no, he's done not And like you know,

685
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:41.280
<v Speaker 2>he really doesn't have a character like does he find

686
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:45.760
<v Speaker 2>these people amusing? Is he very serious? Yeah? Like what

687
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:50.159
<v Speaker 2>is his personality? I could sit here for another five

688
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:53.199
<v Speaker 2>hours and have no idea how to describe this character

689
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:56.039
<v Speaker 2>because he just doesn't have a lot going on in

690
00:35:56.159 --> 00:35:56.880
<v Speaker 2>the video game.

691
00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:59.480
<v Speaker 1>He's much more clearly defined. But even in the video

692
00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:01.679
<v Speaker 1>game they have they struggle with what to do with

693
00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:05.559
<v Speaker 1>him because of the god aspect of his character. They

694
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:07.119
<v Speaker 1>struggle with what to do with him. I mean, there

695
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:09.159
<v Speaker 1>was a he had a heel turn in the video

696
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:11.639
<v Speaker 1>game for a while that kind of went nowhere. But

697
00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:14.639
<v Speaker 1>he's kind of just a through and through good guy

698
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>and like some of the I mean, like what's funny

699
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:19.719
<v Speaker 1>is Kano is not really ever a good guy in

700
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.320
<v Speaker 1>the video game. He's more or less always a villain.

701
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:24.400
<v Speaker 1>He's like a murk for hire. And I think it

702
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:27.760
<v Speaker 1>speaks to Josh Lawson as an actor that they were like,

703
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:29.679
<v Speaker 1>you know what, you need to be a good guy

704
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:32.840
<v Speaker 1>now in this franchise because you're clearly the part of

705
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:35.119
<v Speaker 1>the movie that people resonated with from the first one,

706
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:37.760
<v Speaker 1>So we need to have you on screen opposite Carl Urbin.

707
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:40.320
<v Speaker 1>That would be meta funny. Obviously we've talked about the

708
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:43.519
<v Speaker 1>Australian ness of it all. But like Josh Lawson may

709
00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:46.679
<v Speaker 1>be the best part of this movie, like absolutely yeah.

710
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:49.039
<v Speaker 1>In terms of the actors that we are subjected to

711
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:53.079
<v Speaker 1>and see with regular frequency in the film, it's probably

712
00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:55.519
<v Speaker 1>Josh Lawson by like a large.

713
00:36:55.400 --> 00:37:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Marchin absolutely yeah, because again he's funny. He is light,

714
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:03.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, like once, especially when he has his turn

715
00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:05.840
<v Speaker 2>to the like let's kill these fucking gullies or whatever,

716
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.519
<v Speaker 2>it's just like, all right, good, Like I really didn't

717
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:11.360
<v Speaker 2>need him back as a as a bad guy. And

718
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:16.079
<v Speaker 2>when he does this pretty immediate turn to being a

719
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:19.719
<v Speaker 2>good guy, I'm like, oh okay. And I'm he even

720
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:24.480
<v Speaker 2>somehow forgives Sonia Blade for killing him originally.

721
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>But the movie ending like I'm gonna kill you again

722
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:31.199
<v Speaker 1>and he's like okay, all right, yeah sure, yeah.

723
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and again no offense to the actors. But just

724
00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:38.599
<v Speaker 2>like she doesn't have anything to do, you know, like no,

725
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:42.880
<v Speaker 2>I seem to remember the Sonia Blade from the you know,

726
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:45.760
<v Speaker 2>the Paul W. S Anderson film way better than I

727
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:46.719
<v Speaker 2>remember this one.

728
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course you remember Bridget Wilson more, of course.

729
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.000
<v Speaker 2>You right, how did how did all the W. S

730
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:56.119
<v Speaker 2>Anderson find the balance of these characters so much better

731
00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:59.679
<v Speaker 2>than what we're seeing now, you know, is it like,

732
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:02.360
<v Speaker 2>is it just the fan service, like, well, we have

733
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:04.159
<v Speaker 2>to put this character and we have to put this

734
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:06.840
<v Speaker 2>character in or is it just not knowing how to

735
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:11.119
<v Speaker 2>handle so many characters and not being able to decide

736
00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:14.199
<v Speaker 2>who is what's the storyline that we should be following.

737
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:19.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm fine with abc D storylines obviously, but they really

738
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:24.000
<v Speaker 2>need to be ordered in descending amount of screen time

739
00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:27.800
<v Speaker 2>and importance. And you know, it's even okay to switch tones,

740
00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:29.559
<v Speaker 2>like you know, you and I are two of the

741
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:31.639
<v Speaker 2>biggest fans of The Lord of the Rings that I know.

742
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:36.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, once once the fellowship is broken, we are

743
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:40.039
<v Speaker 2>going all over the place with all of these different characters,

744
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:43.320
<v Speaker 2>but it always feels balanced. And to your point about

745
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:46.880
<v Speaker 2>the Marvel movies, I mean, can you imagine if Infinity

746
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:51.079
<v Speaker 2>War and Endgame had been directed by somebody lesser than

747
00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:53.639
<v Speaker 2>Some people hate the Russo Brothers, but I thought they

748
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:57.159
<v Speaker 2>did an amazing job and they knew when to cut

749
00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:01.000
<v Speaker 2>to these different storylines and when to bring the characters back,

750
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:03.719
<v Speaker 2>because you're dealing with a shit kind of characters, but

751
00:39:03.960 --> 00:39:05.000
<v Speaker 2>nobody feels.

752
00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:08.159
<v Speaker 1>Lost to me, and I will say, Simon mccoyd has

753
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:10.920
<v Speaker 1>like no other credits to his name other than.

754
00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:14.199
<v Speaker 2>He's a commercial director. I mean, I love them. You know, great,

755
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:16.559
<v Speaker 2>you made this big lead, you play it in the

756
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:19.000
<v Speaker 2>big leagues now. But it's just like, yeah, well, you've

757
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:21.360
<v Speaker 2>got to really work on the whole idea of like

758
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:22.440
<v Speaker 2>moon and balance.

759
00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:26.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah well, I was gonna say, like applause to him

760
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:29.400
<v Speaker 1>for being able to escape that world of commercial filmmaking,

761
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:32.400
<v Speaker 1>but also to your point, like I think I don't

762
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:34.320
<v Speaker 1>think that this is the best thing to cut your

763
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:37.440
<v Speaker 1>teeth on because there there is so much going on

764
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:40.280
<v Speaker 1>that they look, let's just get this fucking out in

765
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:42.440
<v Speaker 1>the open. This should have been a TV show, Like

766
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:45.559
<v Speaker 1>why totally, why are we doing this anyway? Like I

767
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:48.440
<v Speaker 1>just I failed to see why we're forcing things to

768
00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:52.039
<v Speaker 1>be films when they could be much better resolved as

769
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:55.760
<v Speaker 1>an extended like media format of like a TV series

770
00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:58.840
<v Speaker 1>or a mini series that then you can you know,

771
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:01.440
<v Speaker 1>limited series. If a limited series goes well, they can

772
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:04.840
<v Speaker 1>turn that into a full on series like Pretty Little

773
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:07.639
<v Speaker 1>Liars was one of those shows a couple of years ago,

774
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.400
<v Speaker 1>and HBO was like limited series and it won awards

775
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:12.280
<v Speaker 1>for being a limited series that came back as a

776
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:15.519
<v Speaker 1>second season. Like in this day and age, anything can

777
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:17.840
<v Speaker 1>come back again, even if it's a limited series, So

778
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:21.239
<v Speaker 1>why not just do that? I just I don't understand

779
00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:25.480
<v Speaker 1>the point of being driven by making films anymore if

780
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:28.760
<v Speaker 1>you're still working in the world of cinema and making

781
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:31.719
<v Speaker 1>things either TV or movies, I don't. I think the

782
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:34.360
<v Speaker 1>line is blurrier now than it's ever been in terms

783
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:36.559
<v Speaker 1>of what is real quality. You know, a show we're

784
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:38.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna be talking about again, Ring of Power, the most

785
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:42.039
<v Speaker 1>fucking expensive thing ever made, and it's a show. It's

786
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:45.159
<v Speaker 1>not a fucking movie, like right, I don't understand why

787
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:47.119
<v Speaker 1>we have to look at the quality of things and say, well,

788
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:49.880
<v Speaker 1>this can't be TV show, this has to be in

789
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:52.559
<v Speaker 1>movies like this would have benefited from an extended narrative

790
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:56.519
<v Speaker 1>where we can have an episode about each character. I mean, God,

791
00:40:56.679 --> 00:40:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Lost was doing it, for fuck's sake, We're kind to

792
00:40:59.079 --> 00:40:59.320
<v Speaker 1>do that.

793
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:02.920
<v Speaker 2>If you have to give me an episode with two

794
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:06.000
<v Speaker 2>characters and then at the end they fight, you know,

795
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:12.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay, because honestly the fight stuff in this where

796
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:14.760
<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, there's this contest and we have these

797
00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:16.719
<v Speaker 2>five fighters and we have to do this, and we

798
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:19.199
<v Speaker 2>have to do that. It feels, to be honest, that

799
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:22.000
<v Speaker 2>feels kind of shoved in here too, where I'm just like, okay,

800
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:25.199
<v Speaker 2>what are we doing? Are we doing the whole relationship

801
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:29.679
<v Speaker 2>between Jade and Kitana and all this, like, you know,

802
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:33.639
<v Speaker 2>that's a very complicated relationship that they have. I'm like, okay,

803
00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:38.079
<v Speaker 2>also some great fight choreography and stuff, and then it's like, okay,

804
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:41.119
<v Speaker 2>here's these five or ten diamonds up in the sky,

805
00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:43.960
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just like, this feels really out of place.

806
00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:46.320
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, this is a Mortal Kombat movie, but

807
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:49.719
<v Speaker 2>the tournament fighting feels out of place. The other thing

808
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:52.519
<v Speaker 2>that felt out of place was just the insistence on

809
00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:57.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, going back to Marvel pop culturizing things like

810
00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:00.360
<v Speaker 2>all of the lines of like that loss and has

811
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:03.159
<v Speaker 2>as Kano where it's just like, god, I can't remember

812
00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:05.159
<v Speaker 2>all of them. Like he makes lord of the Rings

813
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Lord of the Rings. I mean he calls somebody gandalf

814
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I think I.

815
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Know that's that's Johnny Cage called.

816
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:17.559
<v Speaker 2>And then Johnny Cage also has a line about, uh,

817
00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:20.400
<v Speaker 2>doesn't he have like a one ring to rule them all?

818
00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Kind of thing. Yeah something, Yeah, he's got another reference.

819
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:27.440
<v Speaker 2>But I think Lawson has like a squid game thing,

820
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:30.280
<v Speaker 2>and just like there's all of these like pop culture

821
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:32.760
<v Speaker 2>references and like this is not going to age well

822
00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:34.480
<v Speaker 2>can no?

823
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Well? And I was gonna say, like for me, like

824
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't I feel like they gave all the choice

825
00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:41.920
<v Speaker 1>lines to Cano and didn't give anything to Johnny Kate.

826
00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, it was like once Shash Lawson shows back

827
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:48.840
<v Speaker 2>up in the film, it's just like, Okay, everybody, here's

828
00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:51.039
<v Speaker 2>the guy that we're gonna put on screen the most,

829
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:54.559
<v Speaker 2>even though he's a resurrected character from the last movie.

830
00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Here's yeah. Well and again, like you know, like I

831
00:42:57.039 --> 00:43:00.440
<v Speaker 1>said before, Mortal Kombat is as a franchise able to

832
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:03.880
<v Speaker 1>have characters come back with pretty large amounts of frequency.

833
00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:06.360
<v Speaker 1>People rarely stayed dead even if they had their goddamn

834
00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:08.960
<v Speaker 1>heads ripped off in Mortal Kombat. One of the jokes

835
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:11.280
<v Speaker 1>for Mortal Kombat for a while there when they had

836
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:13.840
<v Speaker 1>the X ray moves was how the fuck is this

837
00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Mortal Kombat When people are having their spleens broken inside

838
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:19.880
<v Speaker 1>of their body? That would kill them alone, you know.

839
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:22.239
<v Speaker 1>And and then to go as far as you know, well,

840
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:24.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, finish him and we're gonna leave them be, Like,

841
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:27.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't. I think in Mortal Kombat there

842
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:29.360
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be any sparing of people. That was kind of

843
00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:31.440
<v Speaker 1>the point. And to then have this movie go, well,

844
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:34.039
<v Speaker 1>you spared one of our people, Like that's not yeah,

845
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:37.159
<v Speaker 1>that's missing the point once again of Mortal and.

846
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:41.280
<v Speaker 2>It goes against the words Mortal Kombat.

847
00:43:41.239 --> 00:43:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Right right, like you you kind of just missed it.

848
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:47.000
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like this movie missed it at every chance

849
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:49.559
<v Speaker 1>that it took, but it didn't miss it that far.

850
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Like it's it's you know one, it has standard deviations away,

851
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:55.440
<v Speaker 1>not four. And the last movie I think was like

852
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:59.039
<v Speaker 1>four and it got closer towards the end once it

853
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:01.519
<v Speaker 1>like woke up and really it was a fucking fighting

854
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:04.800
<v Speaker 1>game movie. And this movie there are moments where it

855
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:07.320
<v Speaker 1>remembers what it is, but there are times where this

856
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:10.400
<v Speaker 1>movie is still very much stuck in that thinking of

857
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:13.960
<v Speaker 1>like let's not lean into the inherent silliness of this,

858
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:16.719
<v Speaker 1>Like can you have you watched the Fallout TV show?

859
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:17.039
<v Speaker 2>No?

860
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I have not yet. It's amazing. I mean for fans

861
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:21.719
<v Speaker 1>of Fallout, it might not be the best thing like,

862
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:24.199
<v Speaker 1>and I have some friends who my close friend that's

863
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:26.519
<v Speaker 1>a Mortal Kombat fan also likes fall Out a fair amount,

864
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:28.119
<v Speaker 1>and he does not like the Fallout show because it's

865
00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:30.960
<v Speaker 1>very different from the video game. But the thing that

866
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:34.599
<v Speaker 1>the show does is it actually like acknowledges the goofy

867
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:38.320
<v Speaker 1>and silliness of the source material, and it doesn't run

868
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:40.559
<v Speaker 1>away from it like the guys making Game of Thrones

869
00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:43.960
<v Speaker 1>did with all the supernatural and like dragons and magic

870
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:47.320
<v Speaker 1>of that franchise, Like, why are we pretending like these

871
00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:50.440
<v Speaker 1>things are different than what they are? Like people resonate

872
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:53.000
<v Speaker 1>with them because of the tone as it is. Don't

873
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:55.360
<v Speaker 1>go fucking changing it just because you don't like it,

874
00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:58.440
<v Speaker 1>or don't think it's gonna resonate, or you can't write it.

875
00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:01.079
<v Speaker 1>If you can't write to this is, maybe you're not

876
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:03.159
<v Speaker 1>cut out for that job. I don't know, Like I

877
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:06.159
<v Speaker 1>just the tone is just kind of all over the place.

878
00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:08.920
<v Speaker 1>It hits it from time to time. It hits it

879
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:11.639
<v Speaker 1>better than that first movie, but it's still a bit

880
00:45:11.719 --> 00:45:12.159
<v Speaker 1>of a mess.

881
00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:15.119
<v Speaker 2>It is, though, despite all of the negative things that

882
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:18.440
<v Speaker 2>we've just thrown at this movie. You know what, when

883
00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:21.400
<v Speaker 2>a good copy of this comes out that I can download.

884
00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:23.880
<v Speaker 2>I know that I'm going to be watching this. I

885
00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:25.920
<v Speaker 2>know Andrew's going to be watching this. This is right

886
00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:28.159
<v Speaker 2>up her street. She had a great time with this.

887
00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:30.800
<v Speaker 2>I had a great time watching it. Yes, even though

888
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:33.360
<v Speaker 2>while I was watching it, I was like, yeah, it's

889
00:45:33.400 --> 00:45:37.159
<v Speaker 2>totally confused. Yeah, I don't really care about this character

890
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:41.519
<v Speaker 2>this one, but whenever Urban's on screen, okay, yeah, I'm here,

891
00:45:41.679 --> 00:45:45.360
<v Speaker 2>and even really, like I haven't said, but I did

892
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:49.079
<v Speaker 2>find the Katana stuff to be intriguing and very well done.

893
00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:53.039
<v Speaker 2>I just don't it was. It was very Uh it

894
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:55.960
<v Speaker 2>wasn't peanut butter and chocolate. It was more like peanut

895
00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:58.719
<v Speaker 2>butter and banana, while not bananas, peanut butter and pickles

896
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:01.360
<v Speaker 2>or something. It's just like two good tastes that don't

897
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:05.440
<v Speaker 2>necessarily go well together. And it was, like I said, uneven,

898
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:10.119
<v Speaker 2>uneasy marriage when it comes to this stuff. So it's like, right, yeah,

899
00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:13.079
<v Speaker 2>but I'll still watch it and maybe at some point

900
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:16.159
<v Speaker 2>a fan editor will go through and make the Katana

901
00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:19.079
<v Speaker 2>film and make the Johnny Cage film and never the

902
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:22.199
<v Speaker 2>Twain shall meet. But as it is now, I'm like, yeah,

903
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:25.440
<v Speaker 2>it's a rocky marriage, but it's it's fun to watch.

904
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:29.039
<v Speaker 2>It's definitely better than watching, you know, couples fighting.

905
00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, I was going to say the other thing that

906
00:46:31.159 --> 00:46:33.639
<v Speaker 1>this movie, you know, to the Carl Urban of it all,

907
00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:37.400
<v Speaker 1>when he's on screen, he's great, shocking, said no one,

908
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:40.519
<v Speaker 1>it's Karl Urban. He's always exactly right. And there are

909
00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:44.400
<v Speaker 1>other moments. I think the Katana storyline is serviceable. I

910
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:46.559
<v Speaker 1>mean again, you know, like you said before, but like

911
00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't give a shit about the mythology, Like that's

912
00:46:48.920 --> 00:46:50.480
<v Speaker 1>one of the things of the mythology is just like

913
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:54.079
<v Speaker 1>this kind of stuff like that's oh yeah, hard lean

914
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:57.159
<v Speaker 1>into the mythology. I mean, there's there's another character in

915
00:46:57.159 --> 00:46:59.159
<v Speaker 1>the movie that's such a hard lean into the mythology.

916
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:03.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised you have mentioned him. Damon Harriman as Kwan Chie,

917
00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:07.239
<v Speaker 1>which mind blowing to me that he's in this He's

918
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:10.320
<v Speaker 1>a character from the video games that is at the

919
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:12.920
<v Speaker 1>level of Shao Khan and Shank Song in terms of

920
00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:16.000
<v Speaker 1>like ability to do harm and damage to the characters,

921
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:19.159
<v Speaker 1>the hero characters. But Damon Harriman was in the last

922
00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:21.679
<v Speaker 1>movie as Cabal. He did the voice for Cabal, and

923
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:24.199
<v Speaker 1>in this movie they have him in some of the

924
00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:27.320
<v Speaker 1>most hilariously bad makeup I've ever seen, Like, I what

925
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:32.079
<v Speaker 1>God's name, like what he looks hilarious? Okay, it took

926
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:36.559
<v Speaker 1>guyliner and the lines over his head like wow.

927
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they talk about it. It looks like somebody's nutsack

928
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:40.280
<v Speaker 2>or something.

929
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:43.360
<v Speaker 1>So at one point I think calls him or Carl

930
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:44.159
<v Speaker 1>Irvin calls him.

931
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:46.960
<v Speaker 2>He kind of reminded me of this character from the

932
00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:51.320
<v Speaker 2>Old Buck Rogers TV show who had like not necessarily

933
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:56.159
<v Speaker 2>this same makeup, but yes, similar makeup and yeah, totally.

934
00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Useless character, Like he's not in the video game. He

935
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:03.159
<v Speaker 1>helped him and Shang Sung murder lu Kang in the

936
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:05.960
<v Speaker 1>video game together. Oh yeah, that's the deadly alliance of

937
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:08.639
<v Speaker 1>the video games is them together. It's very funny to

938
00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:10.880
<v Speaker 1>trivialize his character the way that they did.

939
00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:13.719
<v Speaker 2>See when you talk about the video games, so like

940
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:17.079
<v Speaker 2>my frame of reference for the video games is you

941
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:20.320
<v Speaker 2>go in, you pick your fighter, your fighters fight, you

942
00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:23.159
<v Speaker 2>kill one another, or you know, one wins, one loses.

943
00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:24.039
<v Speaker 1>That's it.

944
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:26.800
<v Speaker 2>So like you know, like I have no frame of

945
00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:28.840
<v Speaker 2>reference what you're talking about in the video game. This

946
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:31.440
<v Speaker 2>happens in the video game, that happens, like this must

947
00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:35.000
<v Speaker 2>be like much more like modern video games where like

948
00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:37.360
<v Speaker 2>there are scenes and things.

949
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:40.400
<v Speaker 1>So that's the thing. There was mythology in Mortal Kombat

950
00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:43.639
<v Speaker 1>one and two. If you played through the story on

951
00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:46.159
<v Speaker 1>the cabinet, if you played arcade mode on the cabinet

952
00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:49.360
<v Speaker 1>and beat every person on that tower and got to

953
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:52.400
<v Speaker 1>the end, they gave your character an ending, and there

954
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:55.559
<v Speaker 1>was a character description screen that had you know, lu

955
00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Kang and it said a thing about him, you know

956
00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:00.559
<v Speaker 1>who he was, and then the end day gave a

957
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:04.480
<v Speaker 1>similar thing. Like there was the barest amounts of mythology

958
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:07.239
<v Speaker 1>in the video game for the longest time. And then

959
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:11.559
<v Speaker 1>when sub when Mortal Kombat Mythologies sub zero came out,

960
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:15.519
<v Speaker 1>when it transitioned to home consoles and away from the

961
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:19.920
<v Speaker 1>arcade you know experience, that's when they could start having

962
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:23.519
<v Speaker 1>a story mode or you know, a single player mode

963
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:27.880
<v Speaker 1>where you can examine the the mythology as where the

964
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:30.239
<v Speaker 1>original movie as a fair amount of mythology too. I mean,

965
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:32.920
<v Speaker 1>you know they talk about Earth realm and Nether realm

966
00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:36.679
<v Speaker 1>in the world like it's still there. I think unfortunately

967
00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:39.920
<v Speaker 1>living in the MCU times like they got to over

968
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:42.960
<v Speaker 1>explain everything now and it's just like things can be

969
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:45.159
<v Speaker 1>just left up to like this is just the way

970
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:47.360
<v Speaker 1>it is. We don't need to have everything explained, and

971
00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:51.559
<v Speaker 1>I prefer when things aren't explained to death at this

972
00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:53.159
<v Speaker 1>point in my life, any right.

973
00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but no, Kwanchi is completely the useless because you

974
00:49:56.559 --> 00:50:01.480
<v Speaker 2>have Shangsun there and Chin hand bless him, he can

975
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:06.239
<v Speaker 2>play a dickhead like nobody's business. I just see his face.

976
00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Probably a very nice man, but I see his face.

977
00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:10.559
<v Speaker 2>I just want to punch him right in the face

978
00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:14.000
<v Speaker 2>because he just always plays such a prick every single

979
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:17.400
<v Speaker 2>time I see him. Like, of course I'm mostly thinking

980
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:20.440
<v Speaker 2>of the Dark Night, but like there are other things

981
00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:22.199
<v Speaker 2>I've seen him where I's just like, this guy's a

982
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:25.159
<v Speaker 2>piece of shit. It probably is a wonderful man, loves

983
00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:27.239
<v Speaker 2>his kids, all that kind of stuff, but he plays

984
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:29.000
<v Speaker 2>dickheads so well.

985
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would say if there's another crime of this movie,

986
00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:36.000
<v Speaker 1>it's that Shang Sung kind of gets lost in the shuffle.

987
00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:38.320
<v Speaker 1>A lot of characters just get lost in the shuffle.

988
00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:40.639
<v Speaker 1>Like you could probably make two or three movies off

989
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:43.079
<v Speaker 1>of what this movie is doing. Like there's a lot

990
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:45.239
<v Speaker 1>going on here. You know, we didn't even really talk

991
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:47.719
<v Speaker 1>about him, but Martin ford is show con is a

992
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:49.840
<v Speaker 1>relatively physically imposing presence.

993
00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:54.000
<v Speaker 2>He's yeah, he's amazing, and I kept wondering is he

994
00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:56.760
<v Speaker 2>a wrestler? Turns out that he is. I had no idea,

995
00:50:57.280 --> 00:50:59.920
<v Speaker 2>and then I kept wondering, like, is that his voice?

996
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:02.519
<v Speaker 2>So they're getting somebody else to do his voice or not?

997
00:51:03.320 --> 00:51:04.559
<v Speaker 2>Is that really his voice?

998
00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:08.519
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen him in anything else, so I don't know.

999
00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:11.320
<v Speaker 1>It sure sounds like it was kind of monstered up,

1000
00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:14.119
<v Speaker 1>because shau Khan is not really a human. He's when

1001
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:16.559
<v Speaker 1>they obviously, when they take his mask off, he's he's

1002
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:18.800
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more of kind of a monster. So

1003
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:21.679
<v Speaker 1>you know that, I think that's I would assume they

1004
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:23.599
<v Speaker 1>kind of monstered his voice up a little bit.

1005
00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:26.079
<v Speaker 2>Mm hm oh God, that's right. I see chin Haan

1006
00:51:26.159 --> 00:51:29.800
<v Speaker 2>all the time The True Confessions of Mike's Wife. She

1007
00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:32.960
<v Speaker 2>watches bad movies a lot. He's also in Ghost in

1008
00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:35.440
<v Speaker 2>the Shell, so I have thus seen Ghosts in the

1009
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Shell a bunch. He is not a dickhead in that one.

1010
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:39.119
<v Speaker 2>He's kind of a nice guy in that.

1011
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:43.960
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, he's what's impressed. What a fucking movie to pull? Bro,

1012
00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:49.519
<v Speaker 1>What God's name? Ghost in the Shell, the movie, the

1013
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:52.599
<v Speaker 1>movie that was so all over the place. It took

1014
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Rupert Sanders another seven years to make another movie that

1015
00:51:56.000 --> 00:52:00.559
<v Speaker 1>was also all over the place, That fucking Crow movie. Dude,

1016
00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:03.440
<v Speaker 1>my lord, oh boy, is that is your wife watched

1017
00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:03.800
<v Speaker 1>that one?

1018
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:05.519
<v Speaker 2>No, we've never actually seen that.

1019
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:08.559
<v Speaker 1>Independence Day Resurgence.

1020
00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Nope, Nope. I haven't seen that one either, So I actually,

1021
00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:13.960
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I think I have seen that, but

1022
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:15.920
<v Speaker 2>I just kind of blocked it out of my head

1023
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:17.480
<v Speaker 2>because it was just a fucking.

1024
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Bad I thought you were gonna say that your wife

1025
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:21.800
<v Speaker 1>likes to watch Skyscrape. You know.

1026
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:24.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we've ever seen that one. That's

1027
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:27.159
<v Speaker 2>the one with the rock and the fake leg, right.

1028
00:52:27.159 --> 00:52:30.519
<v Speaker 1>And he like jumps from the crane onto the Oh yeah, yeah.

1029
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:34.400
<v Speaker 2>That seems like we should have seen that, just because.

1030
00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:37.320
<v Speaker 1>That's like I mean, I always say this, like you

1031
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:40.119
<v Speaker 1>and your wife and my folks would get along so well.

1032
00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:43.199
<v Speaker 1>They love the bee keeper and the leg and the

1033
00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:46.320
<v Speaker 1>meg too, all this shit. I'm just like, this is

1034
00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:47.199
<v Speaker 1>the same stuff that.

1035
00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:51.920
<v Speaker 2>We saw a trailer for a new Stathum film, and

1036
00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:54.239
<v Speaker 2>we're like, yep, we're gonna go see this one too.

1037
00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:56.800
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna be in the new season of Jack Reacher apparently,

1038
00:52:56.960 --> 00:53:01.960
<v Speaker 1>like you really go figure so oh raw, yeah, yeah,

1039
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:02.880
<v Speaker 1>that's the state.

1040
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:06.320
<v Speaker 2>The state of preview was so bad. I was just like,

1041
00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:11.400
<v Speaker 2>is this a this a parody? Like I couldn't tell yeah,

1042
00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:12.679
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, and its.

1043
00:53:12.519 --> 00:53:15.199
<v Speaker 1>Just again the one where he's killing people on the island.

1044
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:17.599
<v Speaker 2>No, he's on a boat on this one.

1045
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Great, Yeah, we know what you mean there, Jason.

1046
00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Shelter.

1047
00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:26.840
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, the Shelter is the one where he's

1048
00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:28.000
<v Speaker 1>on the island killing the people.

1049
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:31.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what I'm trying to look at, not killing sharks.

1050
00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:33.280
<v Speaker 1>It is mutiny.

1051
00:53:33.519 --> 00:53:36.239
<v Speaker 2>It was mutiny. It is the name of it one

1052
00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:39.159
<v Speaker 2>word titles too, and it kind of it reminded me

1053
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:41.320
<v Speaker 2>of the beginning of The Meg two where he's on

1054
00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:45.079
<v Speaker 2>that boat with all the containers and he's, you know,

1055
00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:47.880
<v Speaker 2>he's fighting the good fight at that point. So guess

1056
00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:49.880
<v Speaker 2>what his character's name is in Mutiny?

1057
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:54.039
<v Speaker 1>Oh? Read, wasn't he in? Was he? Was he in

1058
00:53:54.119 --> 00:53:56.199
<v Speaker 1>a remake of one of those Michael Caine movies or

1059
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:57.400
<v Speaker 1>was that Sylvester Stallone?

1060
00:53:57.480 --> 00:54:00.159
<v Speaker 2>That was Sylvester Stallone and get Carter. He was in

1061
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:03.760
<v Speaker 2>the remake of a mechanic which I actually really liked.

1062
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:07.639
<v Speaker 1>You know what, could we recast this movie with real actors?

1063
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Like would real actors ever touch this with a ten

1064
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:12.000
<v Speaker 1>foot pole? Would they have touched it with a ten

1065
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:13.960
<v Speaker 1>foot pull if it had been a TV show? Like

1066
00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:15.599
<v Speaker 1>what do we have to do to get a Pedro

1067
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:18.599
<v Speaker 1>Pascal to be part of Mortal Kombat? But it'd still

1068
00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:19.639
<v Speaker 1>be fun, you know what I mean?

1069
00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:21.599
<v Speaker 2>Or even fucking Jason Stathum.

1070
00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:24.440
<v Speaker 1>But I'd be like, why not cast Jason Stathum as Cato.

1071
00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:27.519
<v Speaker 1>He's fucking balld like I don't know, and he's an ass,

1072
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Like he could play an ass pretty well, Like I

1073
00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:31.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know if he is an Australian accent, but that's

1074
00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:35.559
<v Speaker 1>as a British guy. Yeah, that's his character in The Fast.

1075
00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:38.880
<v Speaker 2>And the Furious movies or another movie that we've seen

1076
00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:41.639
<v Speaker 2>too many times, which is that fucking Fast and if

1077
00:54:41.639 --> 00:54:43.920
<v Speaker 2>you're a spinoff? You know, I'm still waiting for another

1078
00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:45.599
<v Speaker 2>one of those team.

1079
00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:48.639
<v Speaker 1>Ups with the rock that he oh Hobbs and Shaw Hobbs.

1080
00:54:48.360 --> 00:54:51.519
<v Speaker 2>And Shaw Baby. I still want to know why Ryan

1081
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Reynolds was doing both the Handler character but also his

1082
00:54:56.039 --> 00:54:58.239
<v Speaker 2>voice is the voice of the bad guy in the

1083
00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:01.719
<v Speaker 2>movie that we don't see, like, why on earth is

1084
00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:05.760
<v Speaker 2>he doing both of these roles? And then fucking Idris

1085
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:09.039
<v Speaker 2>Elba is the black Superman. I mean that line brought

1086
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:09.800
<v Speaker 2>down the house.

1087
00:55:10.199 --> 00:55:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Does Idriselba have a allergic reaction to being in good movies?

1088
00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, hey, he was in Pacific Rim, So.

1089
00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Does Idraselva have an allergic reaction to being in good movies?

1090
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:23.480
<v Speaker 2>I fucking love that first Pacific Room.

1091
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I cannot abide any of those movies. Maybe if

1092
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:30.079
<v Speaker 1>I were to rewatch him now in my older, more

1093
00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:32.280
<v Speaker 1>mellowed out age, I wouldn't hate it so much.

1094
00:55:32.760 --> 00:55:37.199
<v Speaker 2>I bet you. He's really good in Beasts of No Nation.

1095
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Uh that's the one where he plays one of those

1096
00:55:41.039 --> 00:55:42.239
<v Speaker 1>like African drug lords.

1097
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:46.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so. Yeah, And he was in I

1098
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:48.840
<v Speaker 2>haven't seen the Mandela movie that he was in. I'm

1099
00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:52.000
<v Speaker 2>much more about his stuff, like his role in four

1100
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:56.400
<v Speaker 2>or his role in The Losers with his fellow Marvel

1101
00:55:56.519 --> 00:55:57.920
<v Speaker 2>cast member Chris Evans.

1102
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:01.800
<v Speaker 1>So I love him from Atheus like I love him

1103
00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:05.440
<v Speaker 1>in pro I love I don't care, does defend.

1104
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:08.320
<v Speaker 2>I have an allergy?

1105
00:56:09.199 --> 00:56:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Good movie for Methus is a great movie. You're right,

1106
00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:14.800
<v Speaker 1>It's not a good movie. It's a great movie.

1107
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:18.679
<v Speaker 2>He's really good in the Zootopia movies.

1108
00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:22.639
<v Speaker 1>So oh right, yeah, I really cut in those, you

1109
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:24.880
<v Speaker 1>know what, and I think the conversation needs to end.

1110
00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:27.119
<v Speaker 1>He's not going to be James Bond. We've we've missed

1111
00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:30.599
<v Speaker 1>the boat so far. It's going to be some little

1112
00:56:30.800 --> 00:56:34.920
<v Speaker 1>pithy wipe bitch. Probably we'll be lucky if it's not

1113
00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Timothy Shallomy.

1114
00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:39.800
<v Speaker 2>I feel like ninety pounds soaking wet. Yeah, you know,

1115
00:56:40.320 --> 00:56:43.880
<v Speaker 2>to defend elbaw Like talking about James Gunn. He was

1116
00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:48.679
<v Speaker 2>really good in the Suicide Squad, basically picking up doing

1117
00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:52.119
<v Speaker 2>the almost exact same thing that Will Smith was doing,

1118
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:55.679
<v Speaker 2>but probably for less money and less pain in the

1119
00:56:55.719 --> 00:56:56.599
<v Speaker 2>ass on set.

1120
00:56:57.000 --> 00:57:00.360
<v Speaker 1>And well compared to him. Yeah, oh god, how about

1121
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:01.519
<v Speaker 1>disinterested it? At first?

1122
00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:03.760
<v Speaker 2>I was disinterested as an audience member.

1123
00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:06.239
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, like, where is the version of

1124
00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:10.079
<v Speaker 1>this movie where we got like big name actors to

1125
00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:12.480
<v Speaker 1>be this, Like I don't understand why this isn't treated

1126
00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:15.039
<v Speaker 1>the same way as like Last of Us or other

1127
00:57:15.239 --> 00:57:18.840
<v Speaker 1>video game properties, like this is a legacy video game property,

1128
00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:22.559
<v Speaker 1>Like why is this not? I means, I guess maybe

1129
00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:25.719
<v Speaker 1>because it is a movie that is the extent of

1130
00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:28.159
<v Speaker 1>it being treated as such. But to have a bunch

1131
00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:32.119
<v Speaker 1>of TV actors and then a random smattering of a

1132
00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:35.880
<v Speaker 1>ton of Australian actors as well. Uh, it doesn't. It

1133
00:57:35.960 --> 00:57:38.239
<v Speaker 1>doesn't live up to the promise of Mortal Kombat. And

1134
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:40.840
<v Speaker 1>there's not even enough like blood being spilled. Can you

1135
00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:43.679
<v Speaker 1>imagine like a movie that is more ricky oh in

1136
00:57:43.880 --> 00:57:46.800
<v Speaker 1>terms of like the bloodshed, Like that's oh, yeah, that's

1137
00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:49.559
<v Speaker 1>kind of what I want from a Mortal Kombat movie.

1138
00:57:49.679 --> 00:57:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Like they basically do. Yeah, they totally do a ricky

1139
00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:55.159
<v Speaker 2>oh like, especially in that first movie when I think

1140
00:57:55.440 --> 00:57:58.400
<v Speaker 2>is a Jacks that smacks his hands together brushes the

1141
00:57:58.440 --> 00:58:01.360
<v Speaker 2>guy's skull. That's that's the thing that you want in

1142
00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:06.000
<v Speaker 2>these movies. And was this PG thirteen, I I hope not.

1143
00:58:06.280 --> 00:58:08.800
<v Speaker 2>That guy getting caught in half could not have been PEG.

1144
00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:12.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming it's R because that guy the when Kano

1145
00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:15.039
<v Speaker 1>or when Shao Kan has his head split into pieces, like,

1146
00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:16.719
<v Speaker 1>that's got it. That's gotta be R.

1147
00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:20.079
<v Speaker 2>And if you're doing R, then go all the way, baby.

1148
00:58:20.440 --> 00:58:22.719
<v Speaker 1>This is should be dropping f bombs and doing all

1149
00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:26.039
<v Speaker 1>kinds of shit. Oh, make it fun. And that's the thing,

1150
00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:28.880
<v Speaker 1>like this movie feels This video game movie feels caught

1151
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:32.679
<v Speaker 1>in the like the before not the before times the

1152
00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:35.280
<v Speaker 1>video game movies, but a antiquated way of making video

1153
00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:39.800
<v Speaker 1>game movies that video game movies have moved past, like Fallout,

1154
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Last of Us as TV shows, even that Super Mario

1155
00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Brothers movie showed us like, you can be fun in

1156
00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:48.960
<v Speaker 1>the universe that's already been created. You don't have to like,

1157
00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:51.800
<v Speaker 1>don't assume nobody knows what the fuck this is, Like

1158
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:55.719
<v Speaker 1>it's fucking Mortal Kombat, like the Street Fighter movie. The

1159
00:58:55.840 --> 00:58:58.320
<v Speaker 1>trailer for it makes it like it knows what it is.

1160
00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:01.440
<v Speaker 1>This movie, I don't think on that first Mortal Kombat

1161
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:03.440
<v Speaker 1>movie felt like it didn't want to be perceived as

1162
00:59:03.440 --> 00:59:06.199
<v Speaker 1>a video game movie, and this movie once again feels

1163
00:59:06.239 --> 00:59:08.559
<v Speaker 1>like it's having a hard time being perceived as a

1164
00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:12.440
<v Speaker 1>video game movie when it fucking is, like, just lean

1165
00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:14.719
<v Speaker 1>more into it, just like heavily lean into it.

1166
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Have fun, commit to the pit, have as much fun

1167
00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:20.039
<v Speaker 2>as Carl Urban and Josh Lawson seem.

1168
00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:22.199
<v Speaker 1>To be having so because they seem to be the

1169
00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:22.719
<v Speaker 1>only ones.

1170
00:59:23.239 --> 00:59:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, they're having a great time.

1171
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, genuine and like nobody else is really having

1172
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:31.159
<v Speaker 1>as good of a time as they are.

1173
00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I had a great time watching it. So

1174
00:59:34.199 --> 00:59:37.079
<v Speaker 2>despite all of that, I mean, god, people just accuse

1175
00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:39.440
<v Speaker 2>us of hating any new movie that comes out, But

1176
00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:41.000
<v Speaker 2>I found this.

1177
00:59:41.280 --> 00:59:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Did you just see The Bride? Mike? Yeah?

1178
00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:45.719
<v Speaker 2>I did see The Bride? Yeah, I sure did.

1179
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:47.559
<v Speaker 1>Was this more fun than The Bride was?

1180
00:59:47.599 --> 00:59:48.519
<v Speaker 2>As? Absolutely?

1181
00:59:48.599 --> 00:59:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1182
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:53.599
<v Speaker 2>Well yes, this is something that I will be watching

1183
00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:58.159
<v Speaker 2>a second, third, fourth, fifth time. So definitely not that I.

1184
00:59:58.159 --> 01:00:00.679
<v Speaker 1>Would agree, you know, for as much as we kind

1185
01:00:00.679 --> 01:00:03.719
<v Speaker 1>of had our things to say about it. Look, my

1186
01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:07.519
<v Speaker 1>my bar is relatively low with video game movies even

1187
01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:10.360
<v Speaker 1>to speak to like The Again, The Last of Us

1188
01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:12.800
<v Speaker 1>or The Fallout of It All, like those still don't

1189
01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:15.039
<v Speaker 1>raise the bar that high. They've only raised it higher

1190
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:19.039
<v Speaker 1>than like Subterranean, barely, Because for the longest time, video

1191
01:00:19.119 --> 01:00:23.159
<v Speaker 1>game movies were seen as the worst of the adaptation films,

1192
01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:26.119
<v Speaker 1>like they were derided and dragged. Uva Bowl made a

1193
01:00:26.280 --> 01:00:29.800
<v Speaker 1>career odd of directing them. Like we're in a relatively

1194
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:34.400
<v Speaker 1>like bucolic period now where video game movies are expected

1195
01:00:34.480 --> 01:00:37.320
<v Speaker 1>to be better than they used to and it's disappointing

1196
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:40.599
<v Speaker 1>when they're not. And this movie is better than pretty

1197
01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:43.519
<v Speaker 1>much any video game movie that came out for the

1198
01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:46.280
<v Speaker 1>most part in thirty years prior to like the last

1199
01:00:46.360 --> 01:00:49.000
<v Speaker 1>five years worth of video game movies, like it still

1200
01:00:49.079 --> 01:00:52.559
<v Speaker 1>hangs together better than Annihilation or in a lot of

1201
01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:55.719
<v Speaker 1>ways that first Mortal Kombat movie. But it's Moratal Kombat.

1202
01:00:55.760 --> 01:00:58.679
<v Speaker 1>Have some fun with it, seriously, Like, yeah, it should

1203
01:00:58.679 --> 01:01:02.159
<v Speaker 1>have a sense of fun. Like that fucking song at

1204
01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:04.400
<v Speaker 1>the end of the movie is so prenetic and energetic

1205
01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:07.239
<v Speaker 1>that they've been reusing it every time they do one

1206
01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:10.480
<v Speaker 1>of these things, like ex usually that music as a

1207
01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:13.920
<v Speaker 1>starting point for the energy that this series needs to

1208
01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:17.559
<v Speaker 1>have imbued into it, because it really needs to live

1209
01:01:17.639 --> 01:01:19.559
<v Speaker 1>up to the level of fun that one has by

1210
01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:20.480
<v Speaker 1>playing the video game.

1211
01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:23.639
<v Speaker 2>You're talking about those bucolic age of video game movies,

1212
01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:25.679
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just like, all right, I haven't seen Five

1213
01:01:25.800 --> 01:01:26.559
<v Speaker 2>Nights of Freddy.

1214
01:01:26.960 --> 01:01:28.639
<v Speaker 1>Pretty good, pretty good.

1215
01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Minecraft movie was pretty good. I enjoyed it really well.

1216
01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:35.920
<v Speaker 1>It was essentially just Jumanji with Jason Momoa.

1217
01:01:36.320 --> 01:01:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, you're not wrong, You're not mean.

1218
01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:41.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, like it was retreading old ground, but it

1219
01:01:41.800 --> 01:01:45.639
<v Speaker 1>wasn't retreading ground that wasn't somewhat fertile ground. It's not

1220
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:47.400
<v Speaker 1>like they went, We're like, we're gonna redo it. We're

1221
01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:50.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna essentially use the the form and mold that Double

1222
01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:52.199
<v Speaker 1>Dragon did, like no, no, no, no, no, we're gonna

1223
01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:55.079
<v Speaker 1>rip off too much is ripping off other things and

1224
01:01:55.239 --> 01:01:55.760
<v Speaker 1>of itself.

1225
01:01:55.880 --> 01:01:58.159
<v Speaker 2>So oh yeah, well, and to your point, I mean,

1226
01:01:58.760 --> 01:02:02.239
<v Speaker 2>speaking of interse Elba, I mean, I haven't seen the

1227
01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:05.079
<v Speaker 2>Sonic movies, but I hear that they're very fun.

1228
01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:09.480
<v Speaker 1>They're probably the if we're talking the pinnacle of video

1229
01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:13.760
<v Speaker 1>game movies. I think it's Sonic, like genuinely Sonic two.

1230
01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:17.000
<v Speaker 1>They were just like, hey, Jim, just do your thing again,

1231
01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:19.599
<v Speaker 1>and and Jim Carrey goes for it in a way

1232
01:02:19.679 --> 01:02:21.599
<v Speaker 1>that he has not in a very long time, and

1233
01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:24.039
<v Speaker 1>he really like shows up in a way that that

1234
01:02:24.199 --> 01:02:28.159
<v Speaker 1>movie needed him to. I think that the character of

1235
01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Sonic is fun, like James Marsden is in those movies

1236
01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:33.280
<v Speaker 1>and he kind of is just there, like, I don't know,

1237
01:02:33.559 --> 01:02:36.360
<v Speaker 1>I Sonic. You would like the Sonic movies. They're may

1238
01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:39.360
<v Speaker 1>be a little aimed for a younger audience, but still

1239
01:02:39.400 --> 01:02:41.800
<v Speaker 1>pretty good. Yeah, the Minecraft movie is not bad. Like

1240
01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:43.920
<v Speaker 1>say what you will about Jack Black showing up in

1241
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<v Speaker 1>every video game movie, but between border Lands or Minecraft,

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01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I know what's one I'm taking, or Super Mario Brothers movie.

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01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I would actually take Minecraft over the Super Mario Brothers

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01:02:56.000 --> 01:02:58.599
<v Speaker 1>movies even because like I just it's I don't know Jason.

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01:02:58.639 --> 01:03:00.199
<v Speaker 1>It was the first movie I saw where I was like, oh,

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01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:02.199
<v Speaker 1>Jason Momoa can kind of be fun and things like

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01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:04.639
<v Speaker 1>when given the opportunity to just be a dork, like

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01:03:04.800 --> 01:03:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Jason Momoa, I think can just be a dork. And

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01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I found him endearing in that movie in a way

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01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:10.719
<v Speaker 1>that I really hadn't before.

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01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, he's totally supposed to be like a Billy Mitchell.

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01:03:13.679 --> 01:03:16.079
<v Speaker 1>Type right in yeah in Minecraft?

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01:03:16.199 --> 01:03:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was interesting with Minecraft. I

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01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:24.239
<v Speaker 2>downloaded a version of that where the effects weren't complete

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01:03:24.519 --> 01:03:28.639
<v Speaker 2>at all, Like it was wild to see, like you

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01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:31.360
<v Speaker 2>could actually see them standing in front of green screens

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01:03:31.400 --> 01:03:34.320
<v Speaker 2>at times, you could see green coming through their hair

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01:03:34.480 --> 01:03:37.079
<v Speaker 2>when stuff was going on. When it came to the

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01:03:38.280 --> 01:03:43.440
<v Speaker 2>main bad Pig character, her mouth never moved. It was

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01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:46.519
<v Speaker 2>just a still mouth. They added all that animation of

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01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:49.440
<v Speaker 2>her talking later, so I was just like, this is

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01:03:49.559 --> 01:03:51.920
<v Speaker 2>so weird, what's going on? Why is her mouth not moving?

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01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:55.199
<v Speaker 2>And it was just like her face perfectly still and

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01:03:55.320 --> 01:03:57.280
<v Speaker 2>you hear the voice coming out of it. It was

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01:03:57.400 --> 01:04:00.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of it. I haven't deleted that just because it

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01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:02.760
<v Speaker 2>was so fun to see how the effects were done.

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01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:03.480
<v Speaker 1>That's wild.

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01:04:03.800 --> 01:04:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And I mean that was kind of same

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01:04:06.519 --> 01:04:10.719
<v Speaker 2>thing with the original Wolverine Origins movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that one. I had that one on my computer

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01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:12.880
<v Speaker 1>back in the.

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01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:16.559
<v Speaker 2>I still have that on my computer. I've never watched

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01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:19.719
<v Speaker 2>the real version of it. I only watched that fucked

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01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:23.559
<v Speaker 2>up version with that weird like the animatics of Logan

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01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:26.880
<v Speaker 2>getting hit by that truck and stuff. Yeah, that for me,

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01:04:27.119 --> 01:04:30.559
<v Speaker 2>that's more entertaining than the actual movie itself.

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01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:34.000
<v Speaker 1>That is a funny point of thing that we share here.

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01:04:34.039 --> 01:04:37.119
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen Origins I either, other than that version,

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01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:39.519
<v Speaker 1>like the version I saw in my college dorm room

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01:04:39.559 --> 01:04:42.719
<v Speaker 1>on my my little like eight to ten inch whatever

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01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:44.840
<v Speaker 1>the fuck it was, black MacBook, sitting there just being

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01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:46.880
<v Speaker 1>like wow, like what the well, that was the first

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01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:48.639
<v Speaker 1>time we ever saw Deadpool, Like you know, that was

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01:04:48.679 --> 01:04:49.719
<v Speaker 1>a oh yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>You're absolutely right, this is a really good like well,

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01:04:52.960 --> 01:04:55.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. I was kind of mixing up video games

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01:04:55.559 --> 01:04:58.400
<v Speaker 2>and comic books because I was just to give that

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01:04:58.599 --> 01:05:02.079
<v Speaker 2>Nightcrawler origin story. I mean, Jake Jillen Hall really played

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01:05:02.119 --> 01:05:03.280
<v Speaker 2>the shit out of that role.

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01:05:06.639 --> 01:05:08.679
<v Speaker 1>Funny enough that the wolf for as bad as the

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01:05:08.679 --> 01:05:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Wolverine movie is, the Wolverine game based on the movie

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01:05:13.159 --> 01:05:15.519
<v Speaker 1>is amazing And it's the first time they ever allowed

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01:05:15.559 --> 01:05:18.960
<v Speaker 1>you to rip dudes apart as Wolverine and like the

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01:05:19.079 --> 01:05:21.840
<v Speaker 1>game was rated M so you could cut dude's arms

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01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:24.119
<v Speaker 1>off and jam your claws into their heads and rip

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01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:25.880
<v Speaker 1>their heads off, and it was like, well, if the

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01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:28.440
<v Speaker 1>movie had been that, we might've been out a more

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01:05:28.519 --> 01:05:29.199
<v Speaker 1>fun of a time.

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<v Speaker 2>There are moments in that movie that are really good,

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01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:36.039
<v Speaker 2>like him and Sabertooth when they're growing up together and

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01:05:36.119 --> 01:05:38.800
<v Speaker 2>all that. I thought that was really fun. And the

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01:05:38.840 --> 01:05:42.840
<v Speaker 2>whole bone claws and stuff, like all the pre WEAPONEX

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01:05:42.920 --> 01:05:45.840
<v Speaker 2>stuff I thought was actually pretty entertaining. It just like

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01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:47.719
<v Speaker 2>kind of puts you in mind of like, yeah, this

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01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:51.199
<v Speaker 2>guy's hundreds of years old, Like right, he and his

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01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:54.920
<v Speaker 2>brother can't die really because of the regeneration. And what

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01:05:55.119 --> 01:05:56.159
<v Speaker 2>does that actually imply?

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01:05:56.599 --> 01:05:58.840
<v Speaker 1>We should have had Hugh Jackman as Johnny Kate.

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01:05:59.199 --> 01:06:00.639
<v Speaker 2>That would be fun to I mean, why do you

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01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:02.039
<v Speaker 2>want Australians all the time?

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01:06:02.360 --> 01:06:06.559
<v Speaker 1>You got some Australians. I think Simon mccoyd wants Australian,

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01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Like half of the cast of this movie is just Australian.

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01:06:09.519 --> 01:06:12.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean he is Australian, right, Yeah, he coiled.

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01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I mean, come on, that name. That

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01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:17.920
<v Speaker 1>name sounds like a dead giveaway, doesn't it. Wow?

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01:06:18.119 --> 01:06:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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01:06:18.559 --> 01:06:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Wow, not the McCoid.

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01:06:21.760 --> 01:06:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Next thing, you're going to start talking about his accent

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01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:26.519
<v Speaker 2>and you know how big his nose is, those kind

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01:06:26.559 --> 01:06:30.960
<v Speaker 2>of things. Yeah, the gay Oh god, Yeah, you can

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01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:33.320
<v Speaker 2>tell he's Australian by the name.

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01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:34.039
<v Speaker 1>Simon.

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01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:38.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you just yeah what Simon Steen. Yeah.

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01:06:39.639 --> 01:06:44.440
<v Speaker 1>I would equate this movie in a lot of ways.

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01:06:44.840 --> 01:06:47.599
<v Speaker 1>And I was thinking about this because of just like again,

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01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:51.079
<v Speaker 1>just why you would have the audience being treated stupidly

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01:06:51.639 --> 01:06:54.159
<v Speaker 1>in this day and age about things. This movie reminded

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01:06:54.199 --> 01:06:56.559
<v Speaker 1>me a lot of hell Boy, the way hell Boy

1329
01:06:56.639 --> 01:06:59.159
<v Speaker 1>two was after hell Boy. It's like, where was that

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01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:02.320
<v Speaker 1>character from the first movie? He is gone now he

1331
01:07:02.519 --> 01:07:06.280
<v Speaker 1>puocied away? Like, yes, same thing here, Like, just trust

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01:07:06.360 --> 01:07:08.960
<v Speaker 1>the audience. I think we're in a time now where

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01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:12.719
<v Speaker 1>either trust the audience or stop making things, because I

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01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:15.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, fuck, they trusted the audience enough with Spider

1335
01:07:15.440 --> 01:07:18.960
<v Speaker 1>man to not give us another another another another origin story.

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01:07:19.119 --> 01:07:21.079
<v Speaker 1>If you just gave us lu Kang and Kung Lau

1337
01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:23.719
<v Speaker 1>kicking the shit out of people and got people to

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01:07:23.800 --> 01:07:26.559
<v Speaker 1>get on board with that and interested in that, you

1339
01:07:26.639 --> 01:07:29.039
<v Speaker 1>don't have to like, oh, here's this character from the

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01:07:29.119 --> 01:07:31.239
<v Speaker 1>video game and there's this character, Like, you don't have

1341
01:07:31.360 --> 01:07:34.760
<v Speaker 1>to do that anymore. Like we're past We're so far

1342
01:07:34.920 --> 01:07:37.360
<v Speaker 1>past it that this is a convention of a time

1343
01:07:37.480 --> 01:07:39.440
<v Speaker 1>gone past. This reminded me a lot of ways, like

1344
01:07:39.559 --> 01:07:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Morbius with comic book movies, like we're past this, we

1345
01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:47.000
<v Speaker 1>can do we can do better. So yeah, to your point, still,

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01:07:47.239 --> 01:07:50.079
<v Speaker 1>we've done a lot worse. And I would put this

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01:07:50.159 --> 01:07:52.400
<v Speaker 1>in the top third of video game movies. And to

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01:07:52.480 --> 01:07:54.679
<v Speaker 1>your point, I think from before it's much better than

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01:07:54.679 --> 01:07:55.199
<v Speaker 1>the first one.

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01:07:55.400 --> 01:07:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, yeah, talk about tonally just sit

1351
01:08:00.039 --> 01:08:02.920
<v Speaker 2>in the bad that was That was rough man. Yeah,

1352
01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:05.679
<v Speaker 2>this one I'll watch again. The first one, No, no, thanks,

1353
01:08:05.880 --> 01:08:07.000
<v Speaker 2>don't ever need to see.

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01:08:06.840 --> 01:08:09.480
<v Speaker 1>That they meet me either. And you know, if they

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01:08:09.519 --> 01:08:12.800
<v Speaker 1>give us a Johnny Cage spin off, for a Kaitana spinoff,

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01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be surprised. I would implore anybody who's a

1357
01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:18.680
<v Speaker 1>mortal Kombat fan to go watch the cartoons that they have,

1358
01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:21.439
<v Speaker 1>the feature length cartoon. One is based on Scorpion and

1359
01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:24.560
<v Speaker 1>one is based on Johnny Cage. Those are very entertaining.

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01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I believe Joel McHale voices Johnny Cage and the cartoon

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01:08:28.359 --> 01:08:30.760
<v Speaker 1>uh one that focuses on his character, which, you know,

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01:08:30.920 --> 01:08:32.720
<v Speaker 1>physically maybe not the right pick, but like.

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01:08:32.960 --> 01:08:34.119
<v Speaker 2>Attitude, attitude.

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01:08:34.279 --> 01:08:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, there's a universe where Ryan Reynolds could have

1365
01:08:37.720 --> 01:08:40.039
<v Speaker 1>played Johnny Cage, like I'm just gonna you know, like

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01:08:40.359 --> 01:08:42.760
<v Speaker 1>that's the character that I kind of expect from Johnny Cage,

1367
01:08:42.800 --> 01:08:43.960
<v Speaker 1>that conceited asshole.

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01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Yeah, Well, Joel McHale played a great guyle in

1369
01:08:47.840 --> 01:08:51.359
<v Speaker 2>that Pete Holmes skit. So those Pete Holmes skits of

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01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:57.800
<v Speaker 2>him arranging the travel for the Street Fighter Tournament are great.

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01:08:58.319 --> 01:09:01.520
<v Speaker 2>Not as good though, as him as Professor X firing

1372
01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:05.760
<v Speaker 2>all of the X men. That's fucking comedy gold, especially

1373
01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:12.039
<v Speaker 2>him firing what's the creole guy? Oh Gambit, Gambit, him

1374
01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:15.520
<v Speaker 2>him firing Gambit. That is so good. Well, I could

1375
01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:16.520
<v Speaker 2>throw him a sandwich.

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01:09:17.439 --> 01:09:21.479
<v Speaker 1>How could you forget Channing Tatum's great return as Gambit?

1377
01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:25.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh God, that fucking accent man well, I'm all stuck

1378
01:09:25.479 --> 01:09:28.239
<v Speaker 2>on Wolverine Origins. I forget that there is in another

1379
01:09:28.319 --> 01:09:29.960
<v Speaker 2>gambit we o oh.

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01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh right, oh man, oh yeah, like core memory on Luckman,

1381
01:09:34.840 --> 01:09:37.239
<v Speaker 1>we should do a podcast in Wolverine Origins at some point.

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01:09:37.279 --> 01:09:41.000
<v Speaker 1>What a weird ass movie that just like got made existed?

1383
01:09:41.399 --> 01:09:44.920
<v Speaker 1>They referenced it in Deadpool two? Do they reference it

1384
01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:47.279
<v Speaker 1>in Deadpool too? Is that where they referenced it? It

1385
01:09:48.319 --> 01:09:50.439
<v Speaker 1>kills him where Deadpool shows up and shoots him in

1386
01:09:50.479 --> 01:09:51.119
<v Speaker 1>the fucking head?

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01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Like, oh wow, I just saw what you were talking about.

1388
01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:56.720
<v Speaker 2>I had no idea what you meant about the unassure

1389
01:09:56.880 --> 01:10:01.039
<v Speaker 2>being bad CGI. Holy shit, it just came up on

1390
01:10:01.119 --> 01:10:05.119
<v Speaker 2>my Reddit just like, this is the CGI they actually used.

1391
01:10:05.439 --> 01:10:10.439
<v Speaker 2>I am stunned by this. In the Sopranos, it is

1392
01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:14.720
<v Speaker 2>not this looks like it's fucking like Wolverine Origins was

1393
01:10:14.800 --> 01:10:15.680
<v Speaker 2>better CGI.

1394
01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:20.279
<v Speaker 1>Holy shit, I've seen better CGI in video games. Wow, speaking,

1395
01:10:22.439 --> 01:10:26.039
<v Speaker 1>how did they let this go out? It's the TV show, Mike,

1396
01:10:26.359 --> 01:10:29.000
<v Speaker 1>that's why. Oh it's a one shot. Who cares, right,

1397
01:10:29.119 --> 01:10:30.800
<v Speaker 1>nobody's gonna watch it that closely?

1398
01:10:31.199 --> 01:10:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Euble. Wow. I mean they were complaining about those effects

1399
01:10:35.880 --> 01:10:38.960
<v Speaker 2>in thor Love and thunder. This is worse.

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01:10:39.199 --> 01:10:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Man, it's bad.

1401
01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:44.079
<v Speaker 2>Wow, is the whole movie like this. I'm just watching

1402
01:10:44.159 --> 01:10:48.159
<v Speaker 2>the scene of the Punisher falling on like a container

1403
01:10:48.279 --> 01:10:48.720
<v Speaker 2>or something.

1404
01:10:49.119 --> 01:10:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't know if it's all like that, but

1405
01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:56.000
<v Speaker 1>that's the worst part for sure. Wow. Yeah, yeah, I uh,

1406
01:10:56.239 --> 01:10:59.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's no excuse anymore when these big budget

1407
01:10:59.359 --> 01:11:02.239
<v Speaker 1>studios came put out good CGI, Like what what are

1408
01:11:02.279 --> 01:11:04.159
<v Speaker 1>you Are you working them too hard? Are you not

1409
01:11:04.279 --> 01:11:06.479
<v Speaker 1>giving them enough time? Are you not paying them enough? Like?

1410
01:11:06.520 --> 01:11:09.239
<v Speaker 1>What are we doing here? Like it's it. I'm not

1411
01:11:09.319 --> 01:11:12.359
<v Speaker 1>saying it should be embarrassing, but I don't I don't

1412
01:11:12.399 --> 01:11:14.720
<v Speaker 1>know how else to interpret it. Like if you're trying

1413
01:11:14.760 --> 01:11:16.920
<v Speaker 1>to make something that looks realistic, you failed, So that's

1414
01:11:16.960 --> 01:11:18.840
<v Speaker 1>a failure. Like you know, there's a moment in this

1415
01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:21.359
<v Speaker 1>movie where Johnny Cage does a flip and it's clearly

1416
01:11:21.520 --> 01:11:24.680
<v Speaker 1>just like a guy with Carl Urban's head like cgi'ed

1417
01:11:24.760 --> 01:11:26.640
<v Speaker 1>on it. I'm like, man, that doesn't look right like

1418
01:11:27.439 --> 01:11:29.279
<v Speaker 1>and they showed it in the trailer even and I

1419
01:11:29.399 --> 01:11:31.279
<v Speaker 1>was like, this doesn't look good, Like what are we

1420
01:11:31.359 --> 01:11:34.119
<v Speaker 1>doing here? Like why are we not like pay these

1421
01:11:34.159 --> 01:11:36.159
<v Speaker 1>people some money? You guys make enough money off these

1422
01:11:36.199 --> 01:11:38.159
<v Speaker 1>goddamn movies. Like, you know, I don't know if this

1423
01:11:38.239 --> 01:11:40.720
<v Speaker 1>movie's gonna be a rounding air for Warner Brothers or not,

1424
01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:43.399
<v Speaker 1>but it might be you know, five million off the

1425
01:11:43.439 --> 01:11:45.960
<v Speaker 1>books whatever, ten million off the books whatever. We're getting

1426
01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:47.520
<v Speaker 1>a third one, no, mic, that's for certain.

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01:11:48.079 --> 01:11:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I mean this kind of ruled the box office.

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01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:52.000
<v Speaker 2>So I guess we're.

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01:11:51.880 --> 01:11:55.199
<v Speaker 1>Gonna be talking about Mortal Kombat three in what's how

1430
01:11:55.279 --> 01:11:57.319
<v Speaker 1>many years that this movie took to be made plus

1431
01:11:57.399 --> 01:12:00.319
<v Speaker 1>two more to be delayed again? Right right? Yeah?

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01:12:00.800 --> 01:12:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well what's really frustrating for me, Chris, is I'll

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01:12:04.359 --> 01:12:06.159
<v Speaker 2>just kind of pull back the curtain a little bit,

1434
01:12:06.279 --> 01:12:09.560
<v Speaker 2>since this is a shared episode between us. I was

1435
01:12:09.640 --> 01:12:12.720
<v Speaker 2>reached out to by a PR guy. Oh gosh, when

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01:12:12.880 --> 01:12:17.199
<v Speaker 2>was the first time. I mean, I'll sorry to do

1437
01:12:17.479 --> 01:12:21.199
<v Speaker 2>quick math here, but the first time I heard from

1438
01:12:21.239 --> 01:12:25.720
<v Speaker 2>this PR guy was August twenty fifth, twenty twenty five,

1439
01:12:26.600 --> 01:12:30.760
<v Speaker 2>reaching out to you about upcoming film Wortal Combat. The

1440
01:12:30.840 --> 01:12:34.279
<v Speaker 2>film stars Carl Urban playing Hollywood has been Johnny cage

1441
01:12:35.600 --> 01:12:39.079
<v Speaker 2>a ton et cetera, et cetera. Yep, Martin Ford, and

1442
01:12:39.720 --> 01:12:42.560
<v Speaker 2>it's like, okay, we're you know, we're still firming up

1443
01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:45.920
<v Speaker 2>our New York LA screening schedule, but please let us

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01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:48.560
<v Speaker 2>know if you're interested in taking a look. And when

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Hey, I'm not in New York or LA,

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01:12:51.239 --> 01:12:53.239
<v Speaker 2>but I would love to interview some folks, he was like,

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01:12:53.439 --> 01:12:55.000
<v Speaker 2>oh cool, who do you want to interview? And I

1448
01:12:55.079 --> 01:12:58.680
<v Speaker 2>said this like long list of all these people, and yeah,

1449
01:12:58.680 --> 01:13:01.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm going down to like fucking I'm like, I'll talk

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01:13:01.439 --> 01:13:03.159
<v Speaker 2>to anybody about this because I know we're going to

1451
01:13:03.239 --> 01:13:05.079
<v Speaker 2>talk about this, like no matter what I want to

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01:13:05.079 --> 01:13:09.119
<v Speaker 2>talk about. Right, Well, you've heard all of the interviews

1453
01:13:09.159 --> 01:13:11.439
<v Speaker 2>that we played during the break on this episode, and

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01:13:11.680 --> 01:13:15.319
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, I'm glad that this really ate off very well.

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01:13:15.439 --> 01:13:18.359
<v Speaker 2>And I'm glad that that they did such a stellar

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01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:24.640
<v Speaker 2>job of blicicity quoting this film Jesus christ Man. So

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01:13:24.800 --> 01:13:27.359
<v Speaker 2>I reached out to the guy again like a month ago,

1458
01:13:27.520 --> 01:13:30.079
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, hey, dude, like after he had

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01:13:30.119 --> 01:13:32.079
<v Speaker 2>to tell me like, this movie's being delayed, but we

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01:13:32.119 --> 01:13:34.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know where it's coming out. October twenty four, twenty

1461
01:13:34.960 --> 01:13:36.560
<v Speaker 2>twenty five is when it was supposed to come.

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01:13:36.439 --> 01:13:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Out, right, So okay, Oh god, damn, that's almost eight

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01:13:40.359 --> 01:13:41.920
<v Speaker 1>months ago now, yes, yes.

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01:13:42.079 --> 01:13:46.840
<v Speaker 2>So okay, cut to like two months ago. Hey, dude, like,

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01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:49.239
<v Speaker 2>let's rekindle this. I would love to know who I

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01:13:49.279 --> 01:13:51.800
<v Speaker 2>could talk to. I want to do this episode, you know,

1467
01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:54.760
<v Speaker 2>all this kind of stuff. And it's like, okay, great, yeah,

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01:13:55.520 --> 01:13:57.640
<v Speaker 2>we're working on it. And then I reached out to

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01:13:57.720 --> 01:14:00.600
<v Speaker 2>him again two weeks ago, maybe three, three weeks ago.

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01:14:00.960 --> 01:14:03.279
<v Speaker 2>He's like, oh great, I'm turning you over to this

1471
01:14:03.439 --> 01:14:06.079
<v Speaker 2>other team because this is my last week here. So

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01:14:06.119 --> 01:14:09.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh my god, it's us. I'm like, is

1473
01:14:09.239 --> 01:14:10.960
<v Speaker 2>it your last week here because you've done such a

1474
01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:13.159
<v Speaker 2>piss for job or is it your last week here

1475
01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:16.279
<v Speaker 2>because the rest of the company is doing such a

1476
01:14:16.359 --> 01:14:18.880
<v Speaker 2>fucked up job and you're going over to better pastures.

1477
01:14:18.960 --> 01:14:21.279
<v Speaker 2>I hope it's the latter one. Like, if so, more

1478
01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:23.840
<v Speaker 2>power to you, buddy. They screwed the pooch when it

1479
01:14:23.920 --> 01:14:26.000
<v Speaker 2>came to this, And I don't even understand some of

1480
01:14:26.039 --> 01:14:28.560
<v Speaker 2>the marketing of this. Obviously we talked about the Johnny

1481
01:14:28.640 --> 01:14:31.279
<v Speaker 2>caged ness of it, but like I was watching an

1482
01:14:31.359 --> 01:14:35.119
<v Speaker 2>Instagram reel and they're talking about it was this this

1483
01:14:35.399 --> 01:14:38.800
<v Speaker 2>kid with these sunglasses and he's like, these are my

1484
01:14:38.960 --> 01:14:42.720
<v Speaker 2>grandfather's sunglasses or something like Carl Urban takes them. It

1485
01:14:42.880 --> 01:14:46.279
<v Speaker 2>just obviously blatantly breaks them and is like, oh, I'd

1486
01:14:46.319 --> 01:14:48.920
<v Speaker 2>give you mine, but the prescription. And I'm like, is

1487
01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:51.720
<v Speaker 2>this supposed to be funny, because this is not funny

1488
01:14:51.760 --> 01:14:54.479
<v Speaker 2>at all, and this is so staged, Like this is

1489
01:14:54.760 --> 01:14:57.960
<v Speaker 2>just really stupid. I didn't know what they're doing with this.

1490
01:14:58.239 --> 01:15:02.560
<v Speaker 2>So despite the marketing of this film, I still had

1491
01:15:02.600 --> 01:15:03.079
<v Speaker 2>a good time.

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01:15:03.319 --> 01:15:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the marketing for this movie did it no favors.

1493
01:15:05.720 --> 01:15:08.399
<v Speaker 1>I did not see a lot of marketing for the film.

1494
01:15:08.439 --> 01:15:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I did not see Carl Urban on hot ones with

1495
01:15:10.880 --> 01:15:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Sean Evans eating chicken wings, like, I didn't see any

1496
01:15:14.920 --> 01:15:15.399
<v Speaker 1>of that, Like.

1497
01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:17.760
<v Speaker 2>You, bloody son of a bit.

1498
01:15:18.159 --> 01:15:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I know, I was waiting for it, and you know what,

1499
01:15:21.159 --> 01:15:24.199
<v Speaker 1>I get the distinct feeling street Fighter is probably gonna

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01:15:24.239 --> 01:15:26.520
<v Speaker 1>do all of it. And street Fighter has a leg

1501
01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:28.960
<v Speaker 1>up because and that was the other thing. Street Fighter

1502
01:15:29.479 --> 01:15:32.840
<v Speaker 1>knows its audience because it has not one but two

1503
01:15:33.279 --> 01:15:36.119
<v Speaker 1>and who knows, possibly even three, there might be more.

1504
01:15:36.119 --> 01:15:39.119
<v Speaker 1>And I just am forgetting wrestlers from the WWWE in

1505
01:15:39.159 --> 01:15:42.239
<v Speaker 1>their film. So they have automatic like advertising, like Cody

1506
01:15:42.319 --> 01:15:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Rhodes is playing Gyle, like, yes, he's one of the

1507
01:15:44.560 --> 01:15:46.880
<v Speaker 1>biggest superstars in the w W, and he's one of

1508
01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the main characters in that movie ostensibly like free advertising,

1509
01:15:50.199 --> 01:15:51.720
<v Speaker 1>free eyes on the product, like.

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01:15:51.960 --> 01:15:55.479
<v Speaker 2>And I only know him as the bartender from Naked Gun.

1511
01:15:55.680 --> 01:15:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, the funny thing is his scene in Street Fighter

1512
01:15:57.680 --> 01:15:59.239
<v Speaker 1>looks like it was filmed in the same club from

1513
01:15:59.319 --> 01:16:02.359
<v Speaker 1>Naked Gun. So the lighting looks fucking identical.

1514
01:16:02.600 --> 01:16:06.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they really went insane with his hair too.

1515
01:16:07.159 --> 01:16:09.159
<v Speaker 2>That's the That's the thing I'm afraid of. And I'm

1516
01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:11.600
<v Speaker 2>gonna put this out in the universe right now. I'm

1517
01:16:11.680 --> 01:16:14.039
<v Speaker 2>afraid that this is all going to be the Ken

1518
01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:18.399
<v Speaker 2>and Ryu story. And I never played Ken or Ryu.

1519
01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:22.479
<v Speaker 2>I could not care about those characters whatsoever. I did

1520
01:16:22.560 --> 01:16:25.720
<v Speaker 2>find it funny that Ken is beating up a car

1521
01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:28.479
<v Speaker 2>in the trailer. I'm like, okay, yeah, it looks like

1522
01:16:28.520 --> 01:16:31.079
<v Speaker 2>a publicity stunt. I'm like, yeah, yeah, that makes it.

1523
01:16:31.239 --> 01:16:33.520
<v Speaker 2>It makes us much sense as when they had to

1524
01:16:33.600 --> 01:16:35.239
<v Speaker 2>beat up a car in the game.

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01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:39.520
<v Speaker 1>So what I like that again, it seems just visually

1526
01:16:40.039 --> 01:16:44.359
<v Speaker 1>that the Street Fighter movie understands the source material like exactly.

1527
01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:47.199
<v Speaker 1>And maybe I'm wrong, and I'm putting this out into

1528
01:16:47.239 --> 01:16:49.680
<v Speaker 1>the universe myself, like I hope that the Street Fighter

1529
01:16:49.760 --> 01:16:53.479
<v Speaker 1>movie understands the tone of the source material and that

1530
01:16:53.600 --> 01:16:56.640
<v Speaker 1>it is wacky and weird and it is not self serious.

1531
01:16:56.800 --> 01:17:02.039
<v Speaker 2>Loez. Yeah, and just line about and Chunley's thighs in

1532
01:17:02.119 --> 01:17:04.079
<v Speaker 2>the trailer. I was like, okay, good, I'm glad you

1533
01:17:04.159 --> 01:17:05.279
<v Speaker 2>were bringing that up, right.

1534
01:17:05.199 --> 01:17:08.079
<v Speaker 1>Like I want that so badly, and I hope, you know,

1535
01:17:08.600 --> 01:17:11.359
<v Speaker 1>maybe that won't be it, maybe it'll flop harder than

1536
01:17:11.399 --> 01:17:14.359
<v Speaker 1>this movie, but fingers crossed, you know, I just don't know.

1537
01:17:14.479 --> 01:17:17.359
<v Speaker 1>It's it's wild that Mortal Combat and Street Fighter both

1538
01:17:17.399 --> 01:17:19.600
<v Speaker 1>having films coming out in the same year. It once

1539
01:17:19.680 --> 01:17:23.319
<v Speaker 1>again adds further fuel to the fire of these two franchises.

1540
01:17:23.439 --> 01:17:25.680
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I'm sure we're gonna cover Street Fighter.

1541
01:17:26.159 --> 01:17:28.880
<v Speaker 1>If we weren't going to before, we are going to

1542
01:17:29.039 --> 01:17:31.199
<v Speaker 1>now obviously. And I hope when we're done with that

1543
01:17:31.359 --> 01:17:35.119
<v Speaker 1>episode we are having had a better time tonally with

1544
01:17:35.199 --> 01:17:36.880
<v Speaker 1>that movie than we did with this movie. But I

1545
01:17:37.560 --> 01:17:39.600
<v Speaker 1>to your point, like, I'll rewatch this movie and I'll

1546
01:17:39.600 --> 01:17:41.760
<v Speaker 1>probably rewatch it again in the next week, like you know,

1547
01:17:42.119 --> 01:17:44.159
<v Speaker 1>Carl Urb And thank god for you as an actor,

1548
01:17:44.239 --> 01:17:44.600
<v Speaker 1>my friend.

1549
01:17:44.720 --> 01:17:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Seriously, absolutely, yeah, yeah, you made what could have been

1550
01:17:48.039 --> 01:17:50.880
<v Speaker 2>a pretty shitty movie into something really enjoyable.

1551
01:17:51.319 --> 01:17:54.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, he one of the few things the

1552
01:17:54.199 --> 01:17:57.760
<v Speaker 1>film really has going for it. So so yeah, until

1553
01:17:57.880 --> 01:18:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I guess we do another one of these crossover episodes.

1554
01:18:00.199 --> 01:18:03.039
<v Speaker 1>You can find me over at wordingwaymedia dot com, where

1555
01:18:03.079 --> 01:18:05.119
<v Speaker 1>this show and all the other shows I work on

1556
01:18:05.279 --> 01:18:07.399
<v Speaker 1>can be found, other than Ranking on Bond, which is

1557
01:18:07.720 --> 01:18:10.479
<v Speaker 1>coming to a close very quickly at the beginning of June,

1558
01:18:10.560 --> 01:18:13.520
<v Speaker 1>but we will be transitioning to a non Patreon exclusive

1559
01:18:13.560 --> 01:18:16.279
<v Speaker 1>show after that. It will be on Patreon a month

1560
01:18:16.399 --> 01:18:19.479
<v Speaker 1>early ad free, but the next show that we are

1561
01:18:19.560 --> 01:18:22.920
<v Speaker 1>doing will be a show that is not on Patreon.

1562
01:18:23.039 --> 01:18:24.920
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's where you can find all the things

1563
01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:27.560
<v Speaker 1>that I work on. What about you, Mike.

1564
01:18:27.800 --> 01:18:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Ironically, it's the same thing all the way down the line,

1565
01:18:32.159 --> 01:18:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Weirdingwaymedia dot com Patreon exclusive, just a different Patreon address.

1566
01:18:37.159 --> 01:18:39.840
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1567
01:18:39.920 --> 01:18:42.680
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1568
01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:45.920
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1569
01:18:46.520 --> 01:18:49.199
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1570
01:18:49.520 --> 01:18:50.439
<v Speaker 2>some free entertainment.

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01:18:50.720 --> 01:18:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and as always, like rate and review the show

1572
01:18:55.000 --> 01:18:56.560
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1573
01:18:56.640 --> 01:18:59.159
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1574
01:18:59.239 --> 01:19:02.039
<v Speaker 1>That's the easiest place to make a difference with your voice.

1575
01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:04.079
<v Speaker 1>And you know, let us know how we did. You know,

1576
01:19:04.199 --> 01:19:07.319
<v Speaker 1>some of you do, some of you don't. But we

1577
01:19:07.680 --> 01:19:11.000
<v Speaker 1>try to engage if you engage with us, and as always,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll catch on the next episode.