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<v Speaker 1>Breaking down all the exes and ohs. This is I

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<v Speaker 1>on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports Sport

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<v Speaker 1>Team fifty. O.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to my the ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Portuin Cookie, I'm Steve Rivera and with me to day.

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<v Speaker 2>Is what your name?

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<v Speaker 3>Andy Brown with eight team Security of Big Sponsors and Services. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>very fifty, very consistent.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. I'm gonna put in for your second job here.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna play when you retire in two years. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>still here. I've been begging for a second guy. You

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<v Speaker 2>gotta just be funny. If I gotta, I'll do some

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<v Speaker 2>tapes for you. Okay, I'll get your demo, give you

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<v Speaker 2>a rehearsals. You can give you a sponsor spot.

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<v Speaker 3>But then don't. Then then guess what happens. But I

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<v Speaker 3>gotta sell my own advertising. Yeah advertising, glad lose both

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<v Speaker 3>split it. Yeah, that's that'll work. Okay, I'll help it,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, I'll help it. You come on. You got

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<v Speaker 3>ray with breaking news.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Eye on the Ball Breaking News on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, so kind of staying on track with the

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<v Speaker 4>softball from the first hour. Two of the freshman signees

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<v Speaker 4>that are coming in were named PGF All Americans or

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<v Speaker 4>were named to the PGF All American roster. So, you know, glimmer,

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<v Speaker 4>I hope at the light end at the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the tunnel, even though there's a.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what she she made Jenny mentioned something that

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<v Speaker 2>was very interesting to me because everyone I hate I

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<v Speaker 2>hate Facebook in terms of people throwing stuff out there

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<v Speaker 2>almost as a bad word, throwing stuff out there without

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<v Speaker 2>really knowing. And yesterday I saw one and I won't

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<v Speaker 2>see what what was said, but maybe they should hire

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<v Speaker 2>this person and without really knowing the story or the background,

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<v Speaker 2>and Jenny brought something up. Okay, there's ten people, and

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<v Speaker 2>Juan has probably brought him out a lot. You were here,

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe there's some that they didn't want back absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, because you had to clear

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<v Speaker 2>house to bring people in and maybe refresh the roster.

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<v Speaker 2>That's never taught. Well they left there was disgruntled or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Well maybe maybe that's on the other end, you know, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's wasn't good for the You put up a

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<v Speaker 2>fight to let him go, and exactly exactly it's like

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<v Speaker 2>how much of a fight doesn't put up exactly. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>say this, and I say this every now and again.

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<v Speaker 2>When Coach K had his guys that left thereon had

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<v Speaker 2>one Jeter with the guy with his Jeter whatever his

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<v Speaker 2>name is. We had his uniform tucked in their right.

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<v Speaker 2>So he left right the chancer and he came here

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<v Speaker 2>one of the big guys went to issue and I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>if he was that good, you don't think for a

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<v Speaker 2>second that Coach K is gonna fight his asked to

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<v Speaker 2>keep him, keep him there right.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, they'd let him go. They let him

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<v Speaker 3>go because you're not good, no, or you don't make

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<v Speaker 3>the team better. There's a certain exactly you're you're constantly

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<v Speaker 3>putting in pieces right into a program, and sometimes pieces

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<v Speaker 3>don't fit. Yeh story ever, look, Coach Olsen said, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're stealing raised time here, But coach Coach Olsen explained

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<v Speaker 3>the kid that they didn't recruit. They did recruit, but

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't sign because all the guys told him they

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<v Speaker 3>weren't He wasn't an u A.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy, wasn't you.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard that story and that was Gary Payton, the

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<v Speaker 3>glove Like we're gonna pass on Gary Payton because in

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of years we got this kid named David

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and there you go. There are some other guys too,

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<v Speaker 2>because they took some vote. Sure, guys, absolutely, yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 2>sorry about that, man.

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<v Speaker 4>I just try to bring up some interesting topics for

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<v Speaker 4>you guys talk about anyways. Tomorrow Super Regional starts at

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<v Speaker 4>you n C. Nine am. I know it's killing good.

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<v Speaker 2>Nine am.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys awake, then nine am will have to be I'll

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Live on yesterday and Brian Peterson, I guess he

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<v Speaker 2>was leaving at three forty five in the morning to

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<v Speaker 2>get to the plane and the plane wasn't ready or

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<v Speaker 2>something happened. They missed her connections and that's the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>The worst is actually that and then the luggage not

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<v Speaker 2>showing up. You know that happened to me this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Could you just get yesterday? Yeah? Did you have?

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<v Speaker 4>I I had something at my house, so I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>take all of them home, thankfully.

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<v Speaker 2>So people want to know what's raised segment. Let's guess

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<v Speaker 2>what's in raised luggage. We don't know because it's not

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<v Speaker 2>it keep moving to the MLB.

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<v Speaker 4>Diamondbacks just came back, well not just like a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of hours ago. Rallied and had a seven run ninth

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<v Speaker 4>to beat the Braves. Pretty interesting. I think there's so

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<v Speaker 4>fourth in the well, I don't think. I know there's

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<v Speaker 4>so fourth in the division. A Rocky's got to sweep.

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<v Speaker 4>Watch out NHL. Another big game that happened last night.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh Edmonton one four to three and O T.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you know that Edmondon has a hockey teams team?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you know that?

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<v Speaker 2>I did, because you know how I know this When

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<v Speaker 2>you're a kid, you have one of those little hockey things.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a little with the sticks and you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of I remember that that's anything. I had that and

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<v Speaker 2>then it was like this is not fun because they

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't go into the corner and get the damn thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what I'm talking about. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>little it's like electric.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, the guys that were moving and things. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I know. I had one of those two that sounds

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<v Speaker 3>like it was a really cool concept.

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<v Speaker 2>Video games.

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<v Speaker 3>Before everybody had a video machine in their house, we

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<v Speaker 3>had these board games.

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<v Speaker 2>That was like before the Rock and soccer.

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<v Speaker 3>About that about the at that time. Yeah, soccer, that's true,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you armstrong? Yeah what else? NFL?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh Yeah, we're getting into it. Another big one tonight

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<v Speaker 4>is the Pacers and the Thunder. Obviously it's a nine

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<v Speaker 4>points I think, yeah, nine and a half. Yeah, are favored.

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<v Speaker 4>It starts at five thirty, so I will be recently

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<v Speaker 4>now breaking some traffic laws getting back home to day.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you don't have to watch the last you know, watch.

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<v Speaker 3>Just the last fourth quarter, fourth quarter. You get home

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<v Speaker 3>by the fourth. Well, you gotta check the score at halftime.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fair just because see if it's worth tuning into,

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<v Speaker 3>Because if they're up thirty, Yeah, but yeah, I throw

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<v Speaker 3>up twenty. Yes, you still got a chance. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty is not even close anymore. As are coming back

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<v Speaker 3>from twenty five to twenty seven now, Yeah, but thirty

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<v Speaker 3>seems to be the point. You're down thirty, people are

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<v Speaker 3>giving up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it makes sense and ChIL dinner take

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<v Speaker 4>Also Game two of the College Softball World Series or

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<v Speaker 4>a college World Series, the Women's the.

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<v Speaker 2>Women's World Series.

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<v Speaker 4>That's I'm taking Texas five Yeah, well they had the

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<v Speaker 4>bases loaded in the first and yeah, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see what happened after that. I didn't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they manufactured some runs that that call was critical. I

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<v Speaker 2>still like, h.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know if it's the same umpire crew, they

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<v Speaker 3>just oh, I don't know, they stay would assume they do,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm assuming they don't. It's just like in the

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<v Speaker 3>MLBAM where they just kind of rotate positions.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I don't know, but it was and every other

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<v Speaker 2>it's like upon for the review. It's like the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>Upon it's like five hour game upon for the review.

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<v Speaker 3>Five more commercials to watch. Yeah, I couldn't believe that

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<v Speaker 3>is an obstruction. What Yeah, it's all good. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>you get in front of me.

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't going through you, baby, I'm going around you,

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<v Speaker 2>making go around.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually have a question, what it like, do you

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<v Speaker 4>think Kaylin Lowe should get like a bit like some

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<v Speaker 4>slack cut for her just because, like you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>regional didn't go the way that people wanted it to.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean you think about the season overall, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's like you make the big toy.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked about this yesterday. They had a fantastic year

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<v Speaker 2>forty and thirteen. If that's it, Yes, and everybody, here's

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<v Speaker 2>the problem. Here's the problem. The people talking a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of crap don't either go to the games or pay

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<v Speaker 2>attention that greatly. It's like it's like people, you know this, andy, people,

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<v Speaker 2>people have questions, but they really don't know. They really don't.

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<v Speaker 2>This is kind of curious. They don't. They don't. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>how's this guy's doing, how's his health? Eddie? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, do you really want to know? What

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<v Speaker 2>are you trying to use the information for? You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying? They don't. They're just My teaching is

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<v Speaker 2>that the gossip, we're just muscles. They're just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like they can. You don't need to know, so don't ask.

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<v Speaker 2>They just want some noise today. Yesterday's was that thing

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<v Speaker 2>for me on Facebook, capt thinking you're throwing out names

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't know the story. If you don't know

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<v Speaker 2>the story, guess what, don't say anything muddy in the waters.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, because whatever you read on the internet is truth,

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<v Speaker 3>right the gospel or creates more problems because yeah, those comments,

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<v Speaker 3>those are the experts.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, all right, getting back to the NBA. Patino absolutely

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<v Speaker 4>not interested in coaching the Knicks again.

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<v Speaker 2>Dick won win. That was crazy, wasn't it? Fire that guy?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't like that dude, but what he

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<v Speaker 2>did for the Knicks was insane for twenty five years. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh a lot of people were coming out saying that

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<v Speaker 3>was just the dumbest move ever. Yeah, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>New Yorkers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, ahead, it's like, how impatient can you be? You know?

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<v Speaker 4>It's like you just you just reached something that you

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<v Speaker 4>haven't reached in so long. It's like, why are you

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<v Speaker 4>going to fire him now?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they're saying that Brunson's dad is kind of like.

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<v Speaker 3>The Yeah, the main game, we don't know, we're not there,

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<v Speaker 3>we're not in that locker room.

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<v Speaker 2>Good point. And you were listening to me, I list

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<v Speaker 2>you're not in the locker room. You don't know? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're You're exactly right. It's why we go into the

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<v Speaker 2>locker room, nesking, Hey, what's up with it? Last?

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<v Speaker 3>It's on the gild Arena show. We don't know what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on in that locker round?

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<v Speaker 2>You do? You love that? See that's another one of

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<v Speaker 2>those I covered Gilbert here. I didn't listen to him

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<v Speaker 2>when he was here. I'm sure doesn't when he's I

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<v Speaker 2>think they're hilarious. I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I listened to him and uh Channing Fry, those guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I like Channing and Richard a smart dad. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>they come up with a great I don't know about Gilbert, Gilbert,

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it is, just like this show he was entertaining here,

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<v Speaker 2>New York? Then? Who knows? But Malone? Did you sayim alone?

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<v Speaker 2>That's like people have been throwing his name out there

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<v Speaker 4>I mean he took a team to the championship, so

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so maybe Booting hasn't he'll go to New York. Yeah, no, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Good luck Pittsburgh, Good luck Bill. Are you a Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 3>No, I am not a Pittsburgh guy. I support the

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<v Speaker 3>luck with that. He's just a toxic He's just a

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<v Speaker 3>If Cleveland had a spot open, he'd probably be there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yea with all the other twenty five quarterbacks. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>open tryouts in Cleveland. That would be hilarious. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think it's getting to a point too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, do you guys, do you want this guy

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I guess Flaco is kind of that way with

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know. He did good in that

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<v Speaker 2>a super Bowl champion, isn't he. Fortunately, Black Origin.

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<v Speaker 2>Well he was, he got He's the one that took

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<v Speaker 4>The quarterback man. That's that's kind of what you signed

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know who's who wrote that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you you don't because there were.

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<v Speaker 3>Like here, But if you have a player or two

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<v Speaker 3>uh when you start to think you're smarter than the coach, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you think that's more of a case now now

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to I I'm the Ball here on

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<v Speaker 12>I'm doing just fine, fellas.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, like I always say, it's still attached to

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<v Speaker 12>I'm not happy with the stain that was from a program,

421
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<v Speaker 12>you know, under his leadership. But at the same time,

422
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<v Speaker 12>he never really embraced alumni. Some folks say he didn't

423
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<v Speaker 12>really embrace Tucson. I can't really speak on that, but

424
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<v Speaker 12>he never really embraced the alumni and former players or whatever.

425
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<v Speaker 2>So you know, there was not that vine.

426
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<v Speaker 12>When Tommy came in. It was just a complete reversal,

427
00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:41.039
<v Speaker 12>maybe because they saw Arizona as the standard as far

428
00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:43.480
<v Speaker 12>as building, you know, Gonzaga in the same makeup as

429
00:20:43.480 --> 00:20:47.960
<v Speaker 12>Arizona's respectful coach show and everything. And Tommy caught me

430
00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:50.039
<v Speaker 12>work when I was you know when the day the

431
00:20:50.119 --> 00:20:52.160
<v Speaker 12>day of this press conference, he called me at work

432
00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:53.480
<v Speaker 12>and I was hung up on it because I was

433
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<v Speaker 12>somebody's else. I think I can't watch, and I almost

434
00:20:57.279 --> 00:20:58.920
<v Speaker 12>hung up on him, but I took the call, and

435
00:20:58.960 --> 00:21:01.039
<v Speaker 12>I'm glad I did. We had a great conversation, and

436
00:21:01.160 --> 00:21:04.599
<v Speaker 12>that same day he had he had his former press

437
00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:07.200
<v Speaker 12>conference in McHale where he got a little emotional. He

438
00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:09.279
<v Speaker 12>got emotional with us when we did the zoom call,

439
00:21:09.720 --> 00:21:11.960
<v Speaker 12>and basically he was saying, how important you know the

440
00:21:12.319 --> 00:21:15.599
<v Speaker 12>history and the former players are. And he said, you know,

441
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<v Speaker 12>if you guys are ever in Tucson and you guys

442
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<v Speaker 12>don't come to the office, you know, I'm gonna be

443
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<v Speaker 12>pissed off. And I think he meant that with every

444
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<v Speaker 12>fiber of his heart, you know, so that that meant

445
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<v Speaker 12>a lot to us. And he's he's more than proven

446
00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:29.240
<v Speaker 12>that those were just words. You know, he's just he's great.

447
00:21:29.319 --> 00:21:32.759
<v Speaker 12>So I told Coach Holston. You know, I don't tell

448
00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:34.359
<v Speaker 12>a lot of people that I told Coach Holston because

449
00:21:34.359 --> 00:21:36.640
<v Speaker 12>when the program went under that little stand of whatever meant,

450
00:21:36.680 --> 00:21:39.160
<v Speaker 12>I had a hard time, you know, getting it from neighbors, uh,

451
00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:42.119
<v Speaker 12>co workers and this and that, you know, pay you

452
00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:44.279
<v Speaker 12>obey and all these other little catchy praises that came

453
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<v Speaker 12>up with. And I remember telling Coach Houlston, you know,

454
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<v Speaker 12>for the first time in thirty some years, I'm actually,

455
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<v Speaker 12>you know, kind of shamed to be a part of

456
00:21:51.039 --> 00:21:52.720
<v Speaker 12>the program, you know, based on what was going on.

457
00:21:53.079 --> 00:21:55.920
<v Speaker 12>But when Tommy took the job, it was a complete

458
00:21:55.960 --> 00:21:57.759
<v Speaker 12>three sixty for me, you know, and you know, you

459
00:21:57.799 --> 00:21:58.599
<v Speaker 12>guys probably.

460
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<v Speaker 2>Heart me say this again.

461
00:21:59.839 --> 00:22:03.000
<v Speaker 12>It felt good to feel good about Arizona basketball again.

462
00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:04.559
<v Speaker 12>And that's what Tommy Lloyd has brought.

463
00:22:05.279 --> 00:22:07.160
<v Speaker 2>And your message to the guys when you when talk

464
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<v Speaker 2>talk to them in the locker room.

465
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<v Speaker 12>We got the players, Yeah, well, you know, all we

466
00:22:13.200 --> 00:22:15.000
<v Speaker 12>can do is just kind of you know, give give

467
00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:17.359
<v Speaker 12>them the history of what it was like, the struggles,

468
00:22:17.799 --> 00:22:20.039
<v Speaker 12>the struggles that in the beginning, what it was like,

469
00:22:20.119 --> 00:22:22.160
<v Speaker 12>and then the prosperity the program has had over the

470
00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:25.920
<v Speaker 12>years and how proud we are of it. And they

471
00:22:25.960 --> 00:22:28.039
<v Speaker 12>would truly understand once they get out of school a

472
00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:30.319
<v Speaker 12>few years and you know, provided that, you know, the

473
00:22:31.039 --> 00:22:34.799
<v Speaker 12>tradition of winning continues everything. I mean, it's uh, it's

474
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<v Speaker 12>still just with a lot of pride, especially I think

475
00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:40.720
<v Speaker 12>from our initial group, because you know, you know, when

476
00:22:40.799 --> 00:22:43.480
<v Speaker 12>when Sean Miller came in, the program is down. That's

477
00:22:43.480 --> 00:22:45.880
<v Speaker 12>a little different. When coach also came in, the program

478
00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:48.200
<v Speaker 12>is rock bottom. So I think when people compare well

479
00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:50.200
<v Speaker 12>so and so on the first few years they they

480
00:22:50.200 --> 00:22:52.880
<v Speaker 12>did that well. When when when pasch Muller took over,

481
00:22:53.079 --> 00:22:55.960
<v Speaker 12>Arizona was still a brand. They were still a brand.

482
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<v Speaker 12>We were nothing when we came in with Coach O

483
00:22:58.599 --> 00:23:00.519
<v Speaker 12>and we helped get that thing, started to build it up.

484
00:23:00.519 --> 00:23:03.359
<v Speaker 12>So there's a difference. That's why the pride me and

485
00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:06.319
<v Speaker 12>so many other players, particularly in my era, the pride

486
00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:09.359
<v Speaker 12>we have in Arizona's nights because you know, we put

487
00:23:09.359 --> 00:23:11.000
<v Speaker 12>in that grunt work and the seat it's the same.

488
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<v Speaker 12>I won't say excellent, you know some good.

489
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<v Speaker 2>That's the same.

490
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<v Speaker 12>Success this program has had over the years just is

491
00:23:17.119 --> 00:23:17.799
<v Speaker 12>truly amazing.

492
00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:18.920
<v Speaker 14>Yeah.

493
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think what I was telling Steve about was

494
00:23:20.799 --> 00:23:23.240
<v Speaker 3>when you addressed the team and you're basically, hey, the

495
00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:25.359
<v Speaker 3>reason why you guys are sitting in these nice chairs

496
00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:27.519
<v Speaker 3>and this nice locker room is because the guys that

497
00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:30.319
<v Speaker 3>came before you, right, the guys that did work before,

498
00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:32.519
<v Speaker 3>and you're looking them up here, and it was you

499
00:23:32.599 --> 00:23:35.200
<v Speaker 3>and all those guys up the front. But you didn't

500
00:23:35.240 --> 00:23:37.640
<v Speaker 3>tell them, hey, play for us. You said play for

501
00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:41.240
<v Speaker 3>the guys after you, like, you need to keep building

502
00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:44.240
<v Speaker 3>it and play for the guys ten years from now.

503
00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:46.880
<v Speaker 3>And I think that, I mean, that left me with

504
00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:49.640
<v Speaker 3>a great impression of your leadership and what you mean.

505
00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:52.799
<v Speaker 12>And if they do that, that means the program is

506
00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:54.640
<v Speaker 12>going to continue to prosper. That's what it's all.

507
00:23:54.519 --> 00:23:58.519
<v Speaker 2>About, correct. Yeah? Yeah, you how often you touch to

508
00:23:58.559 --> 00:24:02.359
<v Speaker 2>tell me? I haven't.

509
00:24:02.440 --> 00:24:04.359
<v Speaker 12>I haven't talked to at all this this offseason, but

510
00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:06.039
<v Speaker 12>normally during the season. You know, I hit him up

511
00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:07.920
<v Speaker 12>a few times of years, and you know, coach Lord,

512
00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:11.200
<v Speaker 12>he always he always comes back with a snatched the

513
00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:15.200
<v Speaker 12>little phrases things I can't repeat on the radio. But man, man,

514
00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:18.000
<v Speaker 12>I'm just I'm just blessed. I feel blessed we have

515
00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:22.240
<v Speaker 12>this guy running our program, and hopefully we'll have him

516
00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:24.279
<v Speaker 12>for the next ten, fifteen, twenty years. How much longer

517
00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:26.000
<v Speaker 12>he even wants to coach, because I'd love to do.

518
00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:31.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, we are stacked going into this year, right absolutely.

519
00:24:31.519 --> 00:24:34.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, Yeah, how did you feel? I had

520
00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:37.160
<v Speaker 3>you on a couple of times during the season. A

521
00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:39.480
<v Speaker 3>lot of it was it was down and then up,

522
00:24:39.599 --> 00:24:41.960
<v Speaker 3>and then down and up. At the end, I think

523
00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:44.160
<v Speaker 3>everybody had a feel good because of how they played

524
00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:47.039
<v Speaker 3>in the tournament and the week or so before that too.

525
00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:50.240
<v Speaker 12>Well, even still early in the season when we were

526
00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:52.519
<v Speaker 12>going taking our lumps or whatever. I actually way back

527
00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:55.000
<v Speaker 12>then and we're going to the tournament. You know, there's

528
00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:57.160
<v Speaker 12>no not my mind, it's going to turn around. Sometimes

529
00:24:57.359 --> 00:24:59.640
<v Speaker 12>it takes teams a little longer, but see what it

530
00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:01.680
<v Speaker 12>is off so as people would see these names on

531
00:25:01.799 --> 00:25:04.039
<v Speaker 12>paper and they get so caught up with I can't

532
00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:06.839
<v Speaker 12>tell you how many years every y have so frustrated. Oh,

533
00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:10.240
<v Speaker 12>we have so much talent there right now, We have

534
00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:12.079
<v Speaker 12>so much talent, we have so much death and this

535
00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:14.119
<v Speaker 12>is what. Guess what, you know, how many other teams

536
00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:16.480
<v Speaker 12>in the country they have that same talent and depth

537
00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:19.359
<v Speaker 12>and stuff like that. So it's not just isolated to

538
00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:22.920
<v Speaker 12>just us. Everybody has just a matter of who's coming together,

539
00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:26.160
<v Speaker 12>who's ever sustained it, particularly at the right time. So

540
00:25:27.319 --> 00:25:30.000
<v Speaker 12>I felt we would be at minimum sweet sixteen team,

541
00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:33.799
<v Speaker 12>which we did, and after that anything could possibly happen,

542
00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:36.079
<v Speaker 12>you know. Unfortunately it didn't. But I came away from

543
00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:38.440
<v Speaker 12>the season feeling feeling really good, particularly how we started

544
00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:39.680
<v Speaker 12>and the way we finished.

545
00:25:39.359 --> 00:25:42.960
<v Speaker 2>No question. In fact, Pete, I say that all the time.

546
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:44.559
<v Speaker 2>Every one says, all we're gonna have players, are gonna

547
00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:46.440
<v Speaker 2>have players? I said, you are. But I've been covering

548
00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:48.319
<v Speaker 2>this team for thirty some years, and guess what, I've

549
00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:51.799
<v Speaker 2>never not said that one, And like this year they

550
00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:55.400
<v Speaker 2>have as Andy says, they're stacked, okay, yeah, but still

551
00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:59.519
<v Speaker 2>being stacked. They're ranked eighteenth going in right now, Yeah, chemistry,

552
00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:03.400
<v Speaker 2>it means that means seventeen other teams have the same abilities.

553
00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:07.759
<v Speaker 2>So it all shuts out. How does the team play together? Right?

554
00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:09.000
<v Speaker 2>You only got one ball?

555
00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:12.720
<v Speaker 12>Yeah? You know, you know, and I hate the wedding,

556
00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:15.319
<v Speaker 12>but hey, since it, let's do it anyway. What if

557
00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:17.680
<v Speaker 12>you know, you probably know where I'm going if Carter

558
00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:18.519
<v Speaker 12>had it came back.

559
00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:23.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Henry and Henry, hen that one hurt.

560
00:26:23.319 --> 00:26:25.640
<v Speaker 12>Well, they both hurt. But to me, Henry came out

561
00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:27.440
<v Speaker 12>of left field because that's the last thing I was

562
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:30.240
<v Speaker 12>expecting there, you know, because you know, Tommy could say

563
00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:34.480
<v Speaker 12>that he felt that, uh, that Big Mo was maybe

564
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:36.680
<v Speaker 12>the better place. That still remains to me saying, but

565
00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:39.319
<v Speaker 12>I love Henry's game. He too, thought he had opportunities

566
00:26:39.319 --> 00:26:40.079
<v Speaker 12>and get better.

567
00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:43.359
<v Speaker 3>Me too developed he developed over that last couples. Yeah,

568
00:26:43.359 --> 00:26:44.759
<v Speaker 3>oh my gosh, that was fun to watch.

569
00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, would you let me ask you real quick

570
00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:50.000
<v Speaker 2>because you were you were mostly I think you can

571
00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:51.559
<v Speaker 2>correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sure you will.

572
00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:54.599
<v Speaker 2>More near the basket blah blah blah. Could you have

573
00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:58.400
<v Speaker 2>transitioned more on the outside like today?

574
00:26:58.480 --> 00:27:01.519
<v Speaker 12>Well, isn't it always been a swing man the whole

575
00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:03.960
<v Speaker 12>time I'd ever played and everything? But when I got

576
00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:06.720
<v Speaker 12>to Arizona, you know, we we had two big pressman

577
00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:09.079
<v Speaker 12>kids who you know, couldn't play, So I was forced

578
00:27:09.119 --> 00:27:11.960
<v Speaker 12>to play center by default. I had no choice. But

579
00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:15.720
<v Speaker 12>to play, and I tried to take on a center mindset.

580
00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:18.079
<v Speaker 12>You know, this is what I'm gonna do. I was

581
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:19.880
<v Speaker 12>able to handle the ball, and I was actually guard

582
00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:21.720
<v Speaker 12>high school and junior college screen and got to handle

583
00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:23.480
<v Speaker 12>the ball. Well, that's thrown off the window. And that's

584
00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:24.880
<v Speaker 12>like one of the things I tell young kids, even

585
00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:27.319
<v Speaker 12>my son when he was in high school. Sometimes you're

586
00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:29.240
<v Speaker 12>going to be asked play out a position, but you

587
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:30.640
<v Speaker 12>do what she has to do for the betterment of

588
00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:33.079
<v Speaker 12>the team, which I felt I did. Nobody really knows

589
00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:34.839
<v Speaker 12>how I Caey handled the ball. You know. Now I

590
00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:37.480
<v Speaker 12>wasn't a great paramecuter by any means, but my game

591
00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:40.519
<v Speaker 12>was totally different. I was a swingman. Then I got

592
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:43.079
<v Speaker 12>to Arizona and you got me playing center at six seven,

593
00:27:43.119 --> 00:27:44.119
<v Speaker 12>one hundred and ninety pounds.

594
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:44.799
<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me?

595
00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:46.640
<v Speaker 12>But hey, somehow I poured it off.

596
00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:50.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, Well today's game is there's really no center

597
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:54.519
<v Speaker 2>unless you're you know of one or two guys seven six, yeah,

598
00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:55.079
<v Speaker 2>even those.

599
00:27:55.640 --> 00:27:58.119
<v Speaker 12>You know, the game just evolved, you know, with all

600
00:27:58.160 --> 00:28:00.720
<v Speaker 12>the training, the skilled training and this and that. You know,

601
00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:02.519
<v Speaker 12>we didn't do nothing that Johnt And like I said,

602
00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:04.319
<v Speaker 12>I give it up like Steve Kerr and brought bront

603
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:06.960
<v Speaker 12>Horse and Cradick your gunning. Those guys man were practice

604
00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:08.759
<v Speaker 12>over him, joke as still out there shooting around this

605
00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:11.039
<v Speaker 12>and that. Hey when practice when first of all I

606
00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:14.200
<v Speaker 12>busted my button practice Steve day. But when it was over,

607
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:18.440
<v Speaker 12>I was gone, Yeah.

608
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:20.680
<v Speaker 3>And don't get started on any of the nutrition or

609
00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:23.160
<v Speaker 3>any of that stuff back They know that stuff back then.

610
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:27.720
<v Speaker 2>You you're supposed to drink and eat and.

611
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:29.200
<v Speaker 12>And as finnicky as I was, I wouldn't put it

612
00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:32.799
<v Speaker 12>on the weight because I didn't really eat. People shoving

613
00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:34.440
<v Speaker 12>butter and stuff and everybody knows only.

614
00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Right, right, that's funny, that's funny. I don't know if

615
00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:42.839
<v Speaker 2>I've ever asked you, maybe I have, just how you

616
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:45.960
<v Speaker 2>look back on your time here because you you were

617
00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:48.440
<v Speaker 2>you to me here at the cornerstone without you and

618
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:50.920
<v Speaker 2>a couple of other guys just this place with me.

619
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:59.279
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, Steve bursting with pry only from this standpoint, uh

620
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:02.839
<v Speaker 12>where it was when we came in and not really

621
00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:05.920
<v Speaker 12>knowing my place. My first disappointment was getting there and

622
00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:08.519
<v Speaker 12>seeing I couldn't get number twenty four because David Haskin

623
00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:11.279
<v Speaker 12>already had that twenty four was my jucode number, and

624
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:12.759
<v Speaker 12>so not being able to get that that was my

625
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:17.799
<v Speaker 12>first big disappointment. And then you know Plan Center and

626
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:21.680
<v Speaker 12>you know, hearing just hearing names like Kenny Fields and

627
00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:23.960
<v Speaker 12>Stuart Gray. Guys you know I've seen in the high school's

628
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:25.480
<v Speaker 12>seen on TV because I was a juc on my

629
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:28.079
<v Speaker 12>first two years, and you know, knowing how big and

630
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<v Speaker 12>strong they were, and already some of those self conscious

631
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<v Speaker 12>by myself because again I'm only sixteenty and one ninety

632
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<v Speaker 12>and how would I be able to play? But you know,

633
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<v Speaker 12>under Coach Holsten, there was no excuses, and so it

634
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:38.680
<v Speaker 12>took a while for me to buy into that. But

635
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<v Speaker 12>once I bought in, I understood that. I mean, I

636
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<v Speaker 12>can't make excuses. I may be smaller, maybe a little

637
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<v Speaker 12>lighter in the way, but I still got to go

638
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<v Speaker 12>out to perform. Coach Olsa is not gonna feel sorry

639
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<v Speaker 12>for me, and I was opponents, They damn sure ain't

640
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<v Speaker 12>gonna feel sorry for me. So I'm bursting with pride,

641
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<v Speaker 12>not only what we were able to accomplish, but again

642
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<v Speaker 12>what they were able to sustain over all these years.

643
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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think I'll ask you this one too,

644
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<v Speaker 2>because you know in my book, I didn't ask you this.

645
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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I should have. I know the relationship you and

646
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<v Speaker 2>Lute had, which was a fantastic one like many of

647
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<v Speaker 2>the other guys, But when when did you see him

648
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<v Speaker 2>first kind of say, Pete, I really love you, you know,

649
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<v Speaker 2>like when you said and you're thinking, damn, do you

650
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<v Speaker 2>have some emotions?

651
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<v Speaker 12>Oh, here's the thing.

652
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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

653
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<v Speaker 12>Bobby also would tell me all the time. She would

654
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<v Speaker 12>she would always, she would tell me all the time,

655
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<v Speaker 12>and her words were always, you know you're a favorite,

656
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<v Speaker 12>don't you You know that you can't believe, you know, hyperberctly.

657
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<v Speaker 12>I like to think it wasn't you know, But she

658
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<v Speaker 12>would tell me that all the time. But then, you know,

659
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<v Speaker 12>things change once you get out and you see that

660
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<v Speaker 12>person more as a coaching conversation. When he would just

661
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<v Speaker 12>call out of the blue, when I would see his name,

662
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<v Speaker 12>you know in my phone, how excited I would get.

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<v Speaker 12>And then even it worked because you know, when I

664
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<v Speaker 12>was in probation, we're not supposed to be on our

665
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<v Speaker 12>phone and stuff like that. But sometimes he would call

666
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<v Speaker 12>and I would saying I would differ into the laundry

667
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<v Speaker 12>rum or something like that, just to have my little

668
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<v Speaker 12>private MoMA would coach, oh, you know, coach and the

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<v Speaker 12>worker can't tup very blah blah blah blah, and just

670
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<v Speaker 12>the And then when I would come out, you know,

671
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<v Speaker 12>because a lot of times with improbation, your tenths all

672
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<v Speaker 12>the time. But then when I come out after speaking

673
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<v Speaker 12>with Coach O, my whole persona was changed. I'm I'm

674
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<v Speaker 12>being missed the nice guy. That's not why, because I

675
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<v Speaker 12>just talked to coach.

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<v Speaker 2>You right, and hit that impact on you. Yes, And

677
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<v Speaker 2>it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't until after because I was a walk and

679
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<v Speaker 3>I didn't get the warm fuzzies, you know from coach

680
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<v Speaker 3>until way after. And it was me taking my daughter

681
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<v Speaker 3>to one of his camps, and he sat my daughter

682
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<v Speaker 3>down and said, you know what, your your dad was

683
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<v Speaker 3>a great kid, and you played hard, and if you

684
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<v Speaker 3>play hard like your dad did, you'll be a good

685
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<v Speaker 3>player too.

686
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<v Speaker 2>And I just went what And.

687
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<v Speaker 12>And speaking of that mentioning kids, how how he knows

688
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<v Speaker 12>everybody's kids name, you know. And I remember we had

689
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<v Speaker 12>one one one function one of those areas on the

690
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<v Speaker 12>room and I get together and there was a party

691
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<v Speaker 12>in his house. This is when he was married to

692
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<v Speaker 12>the lady Christina or whatever, and you know, I just

693
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<v Speaker 12>kind of just sit back and even brought you know,

694
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<v Speaker 12>I was able to bring one of my one of

695
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<v Speaker 12>my friends with him, a unk with my family. But

696
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<v Speaker 12>what I really blew me away is how Coach Holsten

697
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<v Speaker 12>went around. He spent time with everybody from from Shane

698
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<v Speaker 12>the top of any of the even the matters, whoever was.

699
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<v Speaker 12>Coach Alsen made a point to spend time with everybody.

700
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<v Speaker 12>I watched all this, you know transport. It was just

701
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<v Speaker 12>it was a beautiful.

702
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<v Speaker 3>Thing to see he did. He made you feel he

703
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<v Speaker 3>made you feel good. Yeah, it made me not on

704
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<v Speaker 3>the practice court, but afterward that's different.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, before he walked on, when he's out there

706
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<v Speaker 12>messing with he's got that mess around and stuff with

707
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<v Speaker 12>the assistant coaches, particularly coach Burns Song, we goofing around.

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<v Speaker 12>But when Coach Alsten walked through that door, man, man,

709
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<v Speaker 12>it was different. It was it was different.

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<v Speaker 3>Clocking in time you cried the clock in and he

711
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<v Speaker 3>had the schedule right on this on this little white paper.

712
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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, I got to memorize those things. That's

713
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<v Speaker 3>where I sat everybody. Hey Brown, what's for conditioning to that?

714
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<v Speaker 3>I go you're not gonna like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 12>Gonna ask you. I did him.

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<v Speaker 2>But I so you're junior, your senior, Uh maybe at

718
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<v Speaker 2>the same time Steve shows up and what do you

719
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<v Speaker 2>think of Steve when you first gets here?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, no, my junior year, Steve came in, but Steve

721
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<v Speaker 12>was late because school had already started. So Steve may

722
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<v Speaker 12>it came late that first week. And so we were

723
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<v Speaker 12>at the used to play pick up games at the

724
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<v Speaker 12>Tusson Community Center at that time, so I mean sometimes

725
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<v Speaker 12>Becail bistically they were at the Tucson Tucson Athletic Club

726
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<v Speaker 12>whatever they called it. We're playing pickup games and we

727
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<v Speaker 12>knew he was coming. You know, he's just like some

728
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<v Speaker 12>of the late late recruit coach shows saw this summer.

729
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<v Speaker 12>And so he comes walking in, you know, a little

730
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<v Speaker 12>little shorts T shirt or whatever, baseball cap, and you

731
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:39.519
<v Speaker 12>know there was a stop in action, but you know,

732
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<v Speaker 12>we all kind of just went over and introduced ourself

733
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:44.079
<v Speaker 12>and a loose ball just kind of rolled over in

734
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<v Speaker 12>the corner and he just kind of nonchalantly and he's

735
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<v Speaker 12>basically sending like right out of bound. Nonsalantly just picked

736
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<v Speaker 12>it up, fired him the jumper, nothing but net.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's where it started.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where it started. Yeah, did because because if we

739
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<v Speaker 2>did he play fait, did was Steve a favorite purposely or.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, well none nessill because see didn't start. You know,

741
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:09.079
<v Speaker 12>Michael Tait and Brock our point guard, where our guards,

742
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:11.360
<v Speaker 12>and they're both natural point guards. So Steve came out

743
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<v Speaker 12>off the bench the whole year. But I think, you know,

744
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<v Speaker 12>obviously not only Coach O and the rest of the city,

745
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:19.559
<v Speaker 12>even though it's maybe a lessers than with bracing, even

746
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:21.800
<v Speaker 12>where whatever happened would happened to his dad or whatever.

747
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<v Speaker 12>So he came off the bench. But going into the

748
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:27.400
<v Speaker 12>following year, you know when we assigned Creg McMillan, So

749
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<v Speaker 12>now with coach did he and Michael Tate and brought

750
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<v Speaker 12>Broncoors compete for the point and then Steve and Priig

751
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:35.280
<v Speaker 12>millan be compete for the two. And my respect for

752
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:37.519
<v Speaker 12>Steve grew even more because you know, Craig six six

753
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:39.760
<v Speaker 12>Craig had all the side McDonald's all American or whatever,

754
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:41.960
<v Speaker 12>but that didn't deter Steve one bit. You know, Brock

755
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:44.400
<v Speaker 12>beat out Mike Fair and square for the point. Steve

756
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:46.800
<v Speaker 12>beat out Craig Farans Square for the two and that

757
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:47.480
<v Speaker 12>was into that.

758
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:50.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, imagine how good you guys would have been

759
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:51.239
<v Speaker 2>if Tate had stayed.

760
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:55.159
<v Speaker 12>Well, not only how good we would have been, because

761
00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:57.280
<v Speaker 12>if Michael Tate had to stayed, he would have had

762
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<v Speaker 12>a minimum ten to twelve year NBA career because he

763
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:00.840
<v Speaker 12>had everything you want in the point guard. He made

764
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<v Speaker 12>presh wan Au packed in team his freshman year. They

765
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<v Speaker 12>had the billboard of him bringing him down on Seedway

766
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:09.760
<v Speaker 12>Boulevard bringing out a basketball advertising whatever the radio station

767
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:12.119
<v Speaker 12>was that in Arizona basketball and Mike was pushing the

768
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:14.960
<v Speaker 12>ball down the court. So Mike was the future of

769
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:18.119
<v Speaker 12>Arizona basketball. But his father's and I love mister Takes,

770
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:20.639
<v Speaker 12>you know, we grew up together on Compton. Mike Michael's

771
00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:22.760
<v Speaker 12>Fabably Wan't ruined that because Mike didn't really want to leave,

772
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:24.320
<v Speaker 12>you know, but you know, he listened to his pop

773
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:26.400
<v Speaker 12>and he left, went to Clemson. Had had a good career.

774
00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:28.760
<v Speaker 12>Asked that one year with CBA Player of the Year

775
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:30.960
<v Speaker 12>when they went to the CBA. But if he would

776
00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:33.000
<v Speaker 12>have stayed with coach Cholson, no question. Mike plays in

777
00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:34.800
<v Speaker 12>the NBA ten to twelve years yeah.

778
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's when we say I say all the

779
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<v Speaker 2>time because you guys tell me this, had you been

780
00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:42.480
<v Speaker 2>patient a year or so, they would have they would

781
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:44.519
<v Speaker 2>have loved it, you know, because everybody wanted to transfer.

782
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Everybody came here wanted the transfer. But those who stuck

783
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:48.639
<v Speaker 2>it out here he didn't. He didn't.

784
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:51.960
<v Speaker 12>He didn't want to. He didn't want to. Tought the

785
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:53.639
<v Speaker 12>principal from his post, and he had to, you know.

786
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:56.079
<v Speaker 12>So that was unfortunately every because then you look at

787
00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:58.719
<v Speaker 12>the injuries that we had when Brocklin down, and you know,

788
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:00.480
<v Speaker 12>Mike would have been solid because again and he was

789
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:02.800
<v Speaker 12>off press and Pact Canna's freshman year, you know, and

790
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:04.519
<v Speaker 12>he was the first player coach. Everybody keeps saying it

791
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:07.119
<v Speaker 12>with me, No, Michael Tate the first person coach time.

792
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, I got to rewrite my books now.

793
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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, yeah, excuse miss, I got a few days.

794
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<v Speaker 2>We fact no longer the corner sound. You just lost

795
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<v Speaker 2>your title. Thanks mine, Thanks as always, Pete, appreciate.

796
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<v Speaker 12>You all right, I hope to see you this summer. Man.

797
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<v Speaker 2>You got Pete man, be careful. That's that's good stuff. Hey,

798
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<v Speaker 2>shaped everything. I think that's all accurate. Just take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're an Arizona Man's basketball fan, you know it's

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<v Speaker 2>been successful for nearly forty years. Now take a look

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<v Speaker 2>back at the Ludelsen era. In my new book, Lessons

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<v Speaker 2>from Loot, it was a labor of love through the

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<v Speaker 2>eyes of twenty five former players, coaches and friends to

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<v Speaker 2>give insight to the coach and the man who led them,

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<v Speaker 2>competed against them, and inspired them. Twenty five chapters for

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five years as Arizona's beloved coach, Lessons from Loot

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<v Speaker 2>is an insight to how he built the program into

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<v Speaker 1>Streaming live on the Ihearts Radio WAB. This is I

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<v Speaker 1>on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In with me

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<v Speaker 2>today is Andy Brown and Tom goes fast and we're

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<v Speaker 2>having fun. It does two hours goes fast when you

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<v Speaker 2>have a good show.

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<v Speaker 3>You thank you for having talk about sports. We could

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<v Speaker 3>do this all day long.

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<v Speaker 2>Could I might find a new sponsor, a new go

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<v Speaker 2>hosting two years when you say, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't need this stuff and a guys like you nice

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<v Speaker 2>support me if you guys want to support me, just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of. Hey, Vince, I'm convincing. Tell the people, tell them,

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<v Speaker 2>tell them. Come on, this is a very small room.

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<v Speaker 2>We need a bigger room. We need TV, we need cameras.

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<v Speaker 2>We got we got all that, We got all that,

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<v Speaker 2>just going to see how they works. You go, yeah, depending, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you got Ray here working in the system. So hey,

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<v Speaker 2>anybody want to call him. That's a good show. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know a few things about the Pete stuff, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of the stuff from that era.

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<v Speaker 3>I tell you, I've learned more from Pete just being

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<v Speaker 3>around in the last couple of years at your camp,

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<v Speaker 3>at the loud Wholsom fancy camp. And the guy is genuine.

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<v Speaker 3>He is a family man. And what he says he's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna do, he.

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<v Speaker 2>Does he does right. Right, My thing is okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>the camp has you know, thirty five to sixty seven

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<v Speaker 2>year old guys, right, and he's a heck of a coach. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know he's why. He's demanding. He's demanding man.

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<v Speaker 2>And he hates to lose.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, he hates to lose to the young whipper snappers.

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<v Speaker 3>Who was it? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>This year my team won? Who is your coach? You

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<v Speaker 2>and who? And who?

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<v Speaker 3>Felicity one with me Fee and uh Reggie. I drafted

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<v Speaker 3>the team and they coached it. Okay, smart, you're GM.

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<v Speaker 3>She the GM. Yeah, he hates I have a good

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<v Speaker 3>eye for talent value wa for seventy year old men.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't drip it off his foot. He's good. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what I looked for it. I was like, you need

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<v Speaker 2>a guard to win this tournament?

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<v Speaker 13>You do?

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<v Speaker 2>And I went out and got two good ones. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what you need exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>What's like everybody else get out the way guards win championships.

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<v Speaker 3>So my claim to fame at Ludolson camp one year

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<v Speaker 3>was I coach Julie Coach's grandson granddaughter.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, back in, back in his back and back at

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<v Speaker 2>his camp. Yeah, okay, look you're on the air nine

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<v Speaker 2>of the ball. Who's this?

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<v Speaker 3>He is?

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<v Speaker 12>Vic?

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<v Speaker 2>What's word?

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<v Speaker 18>So I had a little, uh contradictory, contradictory uh statement

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<v Speaker 18>from you, and I wanted to see and he's there

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<v Speaker 18>and he's a big.

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<v Speaker 2>Booster and stuff.

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<v Speaker 12>How you how you felt?

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<v Speaker 18>So you were saying about the softball and you were saying,

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<v Speaker 18>on one hand, you say, this is Tucson, where's this

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<v Speaker 18>money coming from? And nobody has the money here, right,

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<v Speaker 18>But on the other hand, you were saying, oh, softball, Uh,

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<v Speaker 18>these people can't complain because they don't put the money

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<v Speaker 18>into it or whatever. And like me, I'm a working stiff,

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<v Speaker 18>and I'm you know, but I go to every sporting

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<v Speaker 18>event in this town. Yeah, I see Javier and eighteen

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<v Speaker 18>more than Andy does. I go to every high school game.

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<v Speaker 18>I go to every single probably football game. I miss

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<v Speaker 18>a few here and there. I go to girls basketball,

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<v Speaker 18>girls softball. But I'm a kind of guy that I

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<v Speaker 18>can't donate. I just don't have it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's my point. And well, is that what you're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to tell me? What do you what do you

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<v Speaker 2>have an issue with you?

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<v Speaker 18>You're you are trying to say, well, these people better

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<v Speaker 18>put up or shut up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the thing is, if you're going to complain, Vic,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you think you're going to solve the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think the people complaining and helping the

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<v Speaker 2>gym click or X, big big name is going.

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<v Speaker 12>To help them. I'm hoping se Rivera.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, dude, I like my electricity and my mortgage needs

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<v Speaker 2>to be paid. That's where my money is going. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, These guys can't do it for football, basketball, baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>But Andy, not that you're that guy, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>those people, I mean, how pockets, how big of the pockets?

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<v Speaker 12>Vic? You have?

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<v Speaker 2>You have season tickets. No, I don't do not do

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<v Speaker 2>you go? Do you spend money to go to the game? Oh?

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<v Speaker 13>I go to it.

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<v Speaker 18>You know that I go to every get, every football.

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<v Speaker 18>The only thing I don't really go to every game.

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<v Speaker 2>Is is men's basketball.

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<v Speaker 12>But I go to all the.

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<v Speaker 18>Girls and I go to all foughtball.

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<v Speaker 2>So you do your part. You do your part in

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<v Speaker 2>a little way, right.

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<v Speaker 18>I wish I could donate it. I'd give the million

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<v Speaker 18>dollars to Caitlan and a second for an arm.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my whole point is, if you're going to complain

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<v Speaker 2>and sell these things, I think you should maybe add

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<v Speaker 2>a little to the kittie. You know, it's like a

969
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<v Speaker 2>curse jar. You're gonna hate it. Put ten bucks into

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<v Speaker 2>the curse jar.

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<v Speaker 18>I mean I put in a jar, like I said

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<v Speaker 18>that I could afford and whenever. I have my own opinions,

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<v Speaker 18>but I kind of keep them to myself because I

974
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<v Speaker 18>know how hard Cameland though worse and obviously to be called.

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<v Speaker 18>I hate for anybody to be calling for my job,

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<v Speaker 18>that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think, Vic, you're You're not the guy that

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<v Speaker 3>Steve's talking about. You're the educated guy that has a

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<v Speaker 3>as an educated complaint. And that's the people we appreciate.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the people that make comments that have no idea

981
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<v Speaker 3>what's going on, that don't come to games.

982
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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:32.760
<v Speaker 2>You come to every game. You have an educated opinion

984
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<v Speaker 2>because you're there, you.

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<v Speaker 18>See it, and it does get expended. I mean even

986
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:39.800
<v Speaker 18>the high school games, and I go to a fun

987
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<v Speaker 18>of them. It's five, seven, twelve dollars for every single game,

988
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:48.400
<v Speaker 18>and it adds up for an o geezer like me.

989
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, you're in the Steve rivera role. The same

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<v Speaker 2>text brokeets. We gotta go. You gotta get another color

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<v Speaker 2>you guys j great, Thank you gotta call Hello. You're

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<v Speaker 2>on the Aaron nine in the ball I hope you're

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<v Speaker 2>still here.

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<v Speaker 13>Hey, favorite John, how you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey John? Could you hear your voice? Hey?

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<v Speaker 13>Good talks. So a couple of quick things. As far

997
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:13.280
<v Speaker 13>as you're at baseball goes. You know, the restue the

998
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:17.320
<v Speaker 13>winning games. It's very simple. It's pretty repetitive with every sports.

999
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:20.920
<v Speaker 13>It's not the fundamentals. And if we keep playing good

1000
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:25.280
<v Speaker 13>defense and we keep doing strikes, we've got a chance.

1001
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:27.440
<v Speaker 13>You know, if you do no matter what, we got

1002
00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:29.760
<v Speaker 13>a chance. We can go try to tell in North Carolina.

1003
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<v Speaker 13>But who is better at the fundamentals. If you have

1004
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<v Speaker 13>walked lead off walks to start ings and softball and

1005
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:38.559
<v Speaker 13>baseball in college, that kills you.

1006
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<v Speaker 12>And so if we can keep.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, make them earn their way on and we

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<v Speaker 13>just keep playing fundamental baseball, I think we got a

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<v Speaker 13>great chance to compete and a chance to go to

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<v Speaker 13>the World Series again.

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00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I haven't followed them as closely as I should have.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably I didn't go to any games. Uh, you know,

1013
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<v Speaker 2>but chips come on at the right time. Obviously, last

1014
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<v Speaker 2>a few weeks after being kind of stunned by Utah

1015
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<v Speaker 2>and some of the other ones, you've been to the

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<v Speaker 2>games by good pitching right.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, some hitting, some good idea. What those last few

1018
00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:15.360
<v Speaker 3>games were crushing it? Yeah, I mean that's fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, when you have your best player off of the

1020
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<v Speaker 13>majority of the season and you're still able to win games,

1021
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<v Speaker 13>that means that you do a lot of other things. Well,

1022
00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:26.000
<v Speaker 13>you know, a lot of teams can't sustain losing your

1023
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<v Speaker 13>best your number one player, your first round draft pick,

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<v Speaker 13>and still having a chance in the super regionals. Now,

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<v Speaker 13>I do have a quick kind of nil question perspective

1026
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<v Speaker 13>question so you're seeing the impact that Kennedy as a

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<v Speaker 13>pitcher has for taxes, tech, if the world season, the

1028
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<v Speaker 13>World Series right now, and you know, in softball it's like,

1029
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<v Speaker 13>if you can get one shutdown pitcher, if we have

1030
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<v Speaker 13>her on our squad, we've been playing for a championship

1031
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<v Speaker 13>right now too.

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<v Speaker 2>No question, no question, I agree, you know.

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<v Speaker 13>So, So my question to you, I guess is where

1034
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<v Speaker 13>is the value? You know, what is a return on investment? What?

1035
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<v Speaker 13>Because the eyeballs that are on Texas a softball program

1036
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<v Speaker 13>right now, to me are worth whatever she was, whatever

1037
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<v Speaker 13>the cost was for her forever, for whatever. The star

1038
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<v Speaker 13>pitcher that's entering the portal this year, who thinks, you know,

1039
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<v Speaker 13>how does a process like that. I'm just kind of curious,

1040
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<v Speaker 13>your guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I could be wrong. I could be totally wrong. And

1042
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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna try to get her on the show at

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<v Speaker 2>some point soon. Jenny Finch, she was the face of

1044
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<v Speaker 2>the softball world back in the day, right she was

1045
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<v Speaker 2>that million dollar picture back in the day, without being

1046
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<v Speaker 2>paid a million dollars. I mean you, I just want

1047
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<v Speaker 2>to solid firsthand without having to pay this woman on

1048
00:48:38.360 --> 00:48:39.280
<v Speaker 2>a million bucks.

1049
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:42.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm different, different ballgame that then, but now it's people

1050
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:44.840
<v Speaker 3>are getting paid, so you can't discredit that. The way

1051
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:47.320
<v Speaker 3>that the money comes back to the school is how

1052
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:52.239
<v Speaker 3>you recruit not just players, but people coming to your institution.

1053
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:54.880
<v Speaker 3>So back when I went to grad school back in

1054
00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:57.679
<v Speaker 3>the nineties, I did a paper about that. It was

1055
00:48:57.679 --> 00:49:01.920
<v Speaker 3>a ball about how does your athletic department benefit your

1056
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:06.159
<v Speaker 3>school as a whole? And you see a multi level

1057
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:10.920
<v Speaker 3>return on winning a national championship. It's just it was

1058
00:49:11.159 --> 00:49:13.599
<v Speaker 3>in the writing it was you got you got more

1059
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:16.400
<v Speaker 3>people come to your sending. You got more people wanted

1060
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:20.000
<v Speaker 3>to come there. Your rights to sell merchandise goes up, right,

1061
00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:23.079
<v Speaker 3>your brand is boosted. So now you have now your

1062
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:25.199
<v Speaker 3>shirts are thirty five instead of twenty five.

1063
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:28.159
<v Speaker 2>And John, look at Texas tex She's coming back another year.

1064
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:29.639
<v Speaker 2>She's got another year of eligibility.

1065
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:34.199
<v Speaker 13>And to me, she like when I saw the shoes

1066
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:36.000
<v Speaker 13>in the portal last year, I'm like, if there was

1067
00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:38.800
<v Speaker 13>any way to get her and spend what a cost.

1068
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:41.800
<v Speaker 13>That's in no disrespect to the pitchers we had. We

1069
00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:46.840
<v Speaker 13>had solid pitching, but solid pitching is not next level pitching.

1070
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:50.440
<v Speaker 13>And I think the common denominator with all of our

1071
00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:53.960
<v Speaker 13>championship teams is we have a dominant pitcher as our

1072
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:56.559
<v Speaker 13>number one, and they really did. Back then they threw

1073
00:49:56.639 --> 00:49:59.559
<v Speaker 13>all the innings. We didn't have a second pitcher that

1074
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:01.880
<v Speaker 13>they came. Man, I mean, Jenny fins through all the

1075
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:05.320
<v Speaker 13>innings and you circle back to the pictures before. I'm

1076
00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:07.880
<v Speaker 13>just kind of curious how that, you know, like Kennedy

1077
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:11.760
<v Speaker 13>woked to me, seems like, especially with what you just said, sir,

1078
00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:14.480
<v Speaker 13>seemed like it would be worth the money because, yeah,

1079
00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:17.880
<v Speaker 13>the chances to be on to playing against Texas in

1080
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:22.159
<v Speaker 13>the World Series, you know, it's just and and then

1081
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:23.760
<v Speaker 13>she ends up throwing a pitch down in the middle

1082
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:26.400
<v Speaker 13>of that hate go figure on the test for walk.

1083
00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:30.840
<v Speaker 3>But here's the second part of that is, now I

1084
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:33.000
<v Speaker 3>paid a million dollars for them. Now the next school

1085
00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:35.000
<v Speaker 3>is like, well, I'm gonna pay one point five yeah, right,

1086
00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:37.239
<v Speaker 3>and then the next things I'm gonna pay two. So

1087
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:39.760
<v Speaker 3>this free agency stuff with then il's got a stop

1088
00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:40.639
<v Speaker 3>and it's gonna stop.

1089
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:42.480
<v Speaker 2>It's hard for me to believe though you paid a

1090
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:45.800
<v Speaker 2>million dollar picture with that, and then you paid shortstop

1091
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:48.760
<v Speaker 2>fifty thousand first Pasion, what about me?

1092
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:51.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, Josh right, it's it's it's worth she was

1093
00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:54.800
<v Speaker 3>worth a million dollars. Yeah, easily worth two million, probably

1094
00:50:54.880 --> 00:50:55.559
<v Speaker 3>for Texas Tech.

1095
00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Who didn't know. If you didn't know about Texas Tech,

1096
00:50:58.039 --> 00:50:59.440
<v Speaker 2>you know about Texas Tech now.

1097
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:02.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and she just drove up the price for a picture. Right,

1098
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:04.400
<v Speaker 3>you hit it on the hedge. It's not gonna stop.

1099
00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:06.800
<v Speaker 3>It's good.

1100
00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:12.239
<v Speaker 13>To pay the next elite ish or that's a hard

1101
00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:15.239
<v Speaker 13>thing to factor on all those ends. I mean, look

1102
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:17.960
<v Speaker 13>at Pisa and how much money he made this year. Yeah,

1103
00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:21.679
<v Speaker 13>away for him, wanting to pay him a dime to

1104
00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:24.400
<v Speaker 13>getting whatever in North Carolina offered him, and he was

1105
00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:28.239
<v Speaker 13>worth it. He played it without him last year. We're

1106
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:31.039
<v Speaker 13>a five hundred team without Visa and his performance like dream.

1107
00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:34.280
<v Speaker 2>It's funny because what got paid about that same money

1108
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:38.599
<v Speaker 2>and you're thinking ballow you start, got a nice pitch. Yeah, Hey,

1109
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:40.400
<v Speaker 2>hey John, thanks a bunch. Good to hear from you.

1110
00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Good questions, appreciate, thanks for listening. Has always. I think

1111
00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:46.559
<v Speaker 2>we're almost done right, Yeah, we got a minute, got

1112
00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:49.519
<v Speaker 2>a minute, Okay, thanks for coming on. And hey, give

1113
00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:51.679
<v Speaker 2>me some red and blue gum next time. The red gum,

1114
00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:53.159
<v Speaker 2>I'll bring you some. I don't know if they make

1115
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:54.519
<v Speaker 2>that gum anymore. What was it like?

1116
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:59.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I got I don't know him and his popcorn. No,

1117
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:03.199
<v Speaker 3>it us some Minty probably won. It's like a yeah,

1118
00:52:03.320 --> 00:52:06.440
<v Speaker 3>big Red or something, I remember what it was. Go

1119
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:08.800
<v Speaker 3>look back to you. And then Ronald brought him his popcorn.

1120
00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:09.639
<v Speaker 3>You know, give me.

1121
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I never got into popcorn stuff. It was all

1122
00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:12.639
<v Speaker 2>gum and water.

1123
00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:16.559
<v Speaker 3>Get into the game. He apologize to you one time. Yeah,

1124
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:18.440
<v Speaker 3>that was all I didn't get you in the game.

1125
00:52:18.519 --> 00:52:21.480
<v Speaker 3>That was the first game of the tournament. We got

1126
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:23.519
<v Speaker 3>blew out Team Ye Maryland I think it was, and

1127
00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:25.199
<v Speaker 3>he wanted to win so bad he forgot. I was

1128
00:52:25.239 --> 00:52:28.480
<v Speaker 3>on the bakatly a year before we lost. I'm playing

1129
00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:31.079
<v Speaker 3>this game to the last second. He was the only

1130
00:52:31.079 --> 00:52:35.280
<v Speaker 3>guy I didn't play. Apologized sorry, any, Sorry, hey coach.

1131
00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:37.039
<v Speaker 2>We won. Yeah, we gotta go. Thank you Any for

1132
00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:38.679
<v Speaker 2>showing up. Thank you Ray, thank you for showing up.

1133
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:40.639
<v Speaker 2>Thanks me for showing up. Thanks