Speaker 1: Oh, that's are.
Speaker 2: And welcome to the show. This is the Cult of
Speaker 2: Conspiracy and my name is Jonathan.
Speaker 3: I'm dragging.
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Speaker 3: Baby, let's go. Let's go, y'all.
Speaker 4: And we just knew that that one was coming.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it felt right, you know what.
Speaker 4: It really did.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that was some form of telepathic
Speaker 2: communication that I sent right over to your dome or
Speaker 2: if we're just hooking up on the same radio waves,
Speaker 2: but you know, here we are. Here, we are tonight
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Speaker 2: it's amazing all different walks of life. So we appreciate
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Speaker 2: But the main thing why you want to come over
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Speaker 2: I got a thousand eyes on me tonight, and it's like,
Speaker 2: you're you're you're gonna forget your words tonight, bitch, that's
Speaker 2: what you're can't You're gonna let the intrusive thoughts weighin brow. Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a weird day. I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's so much intrusive, but anyway, Uh yeah,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a good night tonight.
Speaker 5: Dude.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of crazy shit going on earlier today
Speaker 2: as of a time of recording. We just had on
Speaker 2: Clayton Kuterry, very very nice guy. We've had him on
Speaker 2: the show a couple of times before, and he is
Speaker 2: running on behalf of the American Congress Party. He believes
Speaker 2: that he will be president one day, and so we
Speaker 2: are going to just will that into existence because it's
Speaker 2: got to be better than the options.
Speaker 3: That we got. You know, he would be an interesting president.
Speaker 3: I don't mean that in a negative way. It's just
Speaker 3: it's a thing. It's not that I disagree with his standpoints.
Speaker 3: It's the reason for why he believes in these things.
Speaker 3: That's just kind of completely out of the box from
Speaker 3: what I deemed to be like the logics of it.
Speaker 3: But the same time, it's kinike, you know, two times
Speaker 3: two equals four and two plus two equals four. Both
Speaker 3: are true and both give you four. He just went
Speaker 3: a whole different way to get there.
Speaker 2: But like, all right, I mean, hey, look, everybody has
Speaker 2: their own everybody has their own path, and I would
Speaker 2: say that no matter your path, eventually it's going to
Speaker 2: converge at some point, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 2: I think that it's inevitable, like you're going to get
Speaker 2: where you're going to get because that's where you were
Speaker 2: meant to go.
Speaker 3: Solid guy though, solid guest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, yeah, very very good guy. But that being said,
Speaker 2: welcome in good cult members. Tony said, happy birthday, Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 2: Is it his birthday?
Speaker 3: Tony, I swear to God our resident Russian I was
Speaker 3: gonna use Dick Ryder, but let's not say that our
Speaker 3: resident Russian supporter has entered the chat for sure. I
Speaker 3: didn't know today was his birthday.
Speaker 2: Actually, I mean, hey, dude, you know, Russia needs a
Speaker 2: somebody that stalks for them. I don't think. I don't
Speaker 2: see anything wrong with that, And that's really something that
Speaker 2: I've really been trying to dive into a little bit lately.
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of the stuff that we
Speaker 2: have talked about, not even just us, but the majority
Speaker 2: of everybody that is, you know, making any kind of
Speaker 2: content or podcast or anything like that, is very skewed
Speaker 2: in the way that they look at things they don't
Speaker 2: think about, Like, you know, it's almost like nobody believes
Speaker 2: that they're the bad guy. Everybody believes that they're the
Speaker 2: good guy. So why don't we listen to both good
Speaker 2: guys and you know, we'll be able to determine which
Speaker 2: one's good and which one's bad. But I feel like
Speaker 2: not listening to the other guy is Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's almost just as I would say that that's probably
Speaker 2: evil in and of itself, wouldn't you say that?
Speaker 3: I'll say that there is no way, zero, possible, fucking
Speaker 3: chance that the Cult of Conspiracy will ever be an
Speaker 3: echo chamber just within our cult member society that we've
Speaker 3: grown into existence. Here, we have so many different conflicting
Speaker 3: ideologies and different vantage points and different views on different
Speaker 3: political things, religious things, historical things to you, all the things.
Speaker 3: It's like actually impossible for us to ever become an
Speaker 3: echo chamber. I mean you and I obviously, but even
Speaker 3: within our cult collective here, it's it's wild and I
Speaker 3: appreciate the funk out of all of you.
Speaker 2: I would be very interested to see what people would
Speaker 2: think if this show was more echo chambery, more like
Speaker 2: in agreeance, what with one with one of us more
Speaker 2: or more of you more of me, or if people
Speaker 2: actually like the the dichotomy of seeing it from both
Speaker 2: sides and sometimes we come together, so I mean, we
Speaker 2: don't disagree on everything, but it would be interesting, you know,
Speaker 2: because man, it's like somebody always got some negative shit
Speaker 2: to say, and I'm like, you're not. You know, if
Speaker 2: you're trying to walk around in a world in which
Speaker 2: everybody agrees with you, it's going to be a fucking
Speaker 2: tough walk, you know what.
Speaker 3: I feel like you and I like, even for a
Speaker 3: person that might be let's say a Christian, they might
Speaker 3: also agree with you more than me on certain talking
Speaker 3: point and then vice versa on other talking points.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: I feel like that's the thing. And whenever I explain
Speaker 3: to people, because whenever you know, most people in my
Speaker 3: day to day life don't see me as a podcaster.
Speaker 3: They see me as just Jacob, you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: just just the guy. And that's awesome. I prefer that right.
Speaker 3: Like I'm trying to be famous by any means, Fuck
Speaker 3: all that noise. But whenever they ask what I do
Speaker 3: for work and I try to explain to them our show,
Speaker 3: I give them the rundown of how I am this way,
Speaker 3: you are this way, And it's the conversation of both
Speaker 3: of those sides that makes the show what it is.
Speaker 3: I feel like that's kind of a micro calls them
Speaker 3: for our listener base, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 3: there's a little bit of things that you say that
Speaker 3: they get down with, a little bit of things that
Speaker 3: I say they get down with, a little bit of
Speaker 3: things that we both say that they don't get down with,
Speaker 3: and it's it's kind of the conversation piece itself that
Speaker 3: has made this thing what it is.
Speaker 4: You know, who was it that said?
Speaker 2: You know, I almost feel like listening to this podcast
Speaker 2: is my left brain speaking to my right brain.
Speaker 3: I feel like we've heard that from a few people
Speaker 3: and there's something to be said there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool. Obviously you would be the
Speaker 2: left brain because you're the more grounded analytical.
Speaker 4: I see the facts.
Speaker 2: This is the way that it is, and for sure,
Speaker 2: you know the facts don't lie, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And I'm more like, yeah, but what if, like if
Speaker 2: it's this other way, because look, I don't know what
Speaker 2: the fuck we're doing in this reality. It is a crazy,
Speaker 2: crazy thing to even be alive in general. So you
Speaker 2: gotta have both, man, you gotta have both. Yes, we do.
Speaker 2: But anyway, getting over to the chat, let's see Luke said,
Speaker 2: this is the link to the chimp stuff. What is
Speaker 2: the chimp stuff?
Speaker 3: Oh you mean Jane goodall? Rip? Uh No, I.
Speaker 6: Mean where they did the new study for the chimp
Speaker 6: DNA and found out that were instead of one percent
Speaker 6: like they previously stated, we're more long lines of fifteen
Speaker 6: times that amount different from chimps because whenever they did
Speaker 6: the original DNA sequencing for chimps the missing links, they
Speaker 6: replaced it with human DNA and then came out and
Speaker 6: said that there are closest relative.
Speaker 3: So they are our closest relative, but they are a
Speaker 3: lot further away than what they previously have. Let us believe.
Speaker 6: I'm I don't even think that they're probably our closest
Speaker 6: relative anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all. Where the fuck do they even Why
Speaker 2: would you even test for that? A chipmunk and a
Speaker 2: human we look nothing alike. A chimpanzee, dog, it said, chipmunk, oh, chimp? Okayimp? Well, okay,
Speaker 2: that makes a little bit more sense. I was like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck are we talking about? But chimpanzee?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I you know, I'm I've uh, this
Speaker 2: is gonna sound a little maybe counterintuitive to the things
Speaker 2: that I've said in the past, but dude, I honestly,
Speaker 2: it's not that crazy to me that there could have
Speaker 2: been some form of evolution and that's.
Speaker 3: Not solution to a point, but not full on species change.
Speaker 3: That's crazy, right, Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: I think that I don't know if we, you know,
Speaker 2: evolve from monkeys or whatever. But I you know, we
Speaker 2: mentioned in a couple episodes ago about how they found
Speaker 2: the cap telomeres and that that happened roughly two hundred
Speaker 2: thousand years ago, when whenever you're looking at the DNA
Speaker 2: and everything, and that doesn't happen naturally, you know, in
Speaker 2: nature anywhere, So that suggests that there was some kind
Speaker 2: of intervention of sorts, some kind of happenstance that wouldn't
Speaker 2: naturally happen to the birds in the sky and the
Speaker 2: monkeys and the trees and you know what I mean, Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's something else going on there. But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe we were I don't know, Maybe the fucking aliens
Speaker 2: got ahold of us. Maybe it's ANKI and end Lil,
Speaker 2: and maybe it's God. Maybe it's like maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. It is the lack of
Speaker 2: an explanation automatically God. It's like the God of the
Speaker 2: Gaps kind of situation here.
Speaker 3: I mean it, I guess it depends on the situation right,
Speaker 3: case by case. But yeah, I'm I could and I've
Speaker 3: said this a million times. Evolution in the sense of
Speaker 3: how people from sub Saharan Africa look different than the
Speaker 3: people around northern Africa, different than the people in Japan,
Speaker 3: different from Native Americans, Like, yeah, they're all still human,
Speaker 3: like no doubt, they're all one hundred percent human, but
Speaker 3: there has been evolutionary changes that made them grow taller
Speaker 3: or shorter, or hairer or less hairrier, whatever the case.
Speaker 3: Is that type of evolution I can get down with.
Speaker 3: But to say, you know, jumping from some sort of
Speaker 3: an aquatic creature to some sort of you know, amphibious creature,
Speaker 3: and then jumping from that to some sort of a
Speaker 3: weird reptile mammal hybrid, and then jumping from that to
Speaker 3: a different type of mammal hybrid, and then somehow jumping
Speaker 3: in it, It's like, I'm sorry, there's I can't find
Speaker 3: any actual logic to that. The only dude that proposed
Speaker 3: that was Darwin, who then recanted all.
Speaker 2: Of it before he died.
Speaker 3: So it is. It was a theory that was proposed,
Speaker 3: and it's an interesting theory to look at and to
Speaker 3: say that monkeys are close relatives. Okay, we all have
Speaker 3: forward facing has forward facing faces, right, Our ears don't
Speaker 3: jut out where they point more towards the front eyes.
Speaker 3: Ears knows the whole thing, opposable thumbs right, and some
Speaker 3: basic nervous system similarities. I could understand why somebody would say, oh,
Speaker 3: they must be our long lost as an ancestor. But
Speaker 3: again that there's no real weight that holds credence to that.
Speaker 3: And this is me not speaking from a religious standpoint.
Speaker 3: Strictly scientifical, but.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, and where I'm like, I don't really care,
Speaker 2: you know, if it was evolution or if there was
Speaker 2: some kind of alien or alien or god or whatever
Speaker 2: kind of intervention. I really don't. I don't think that
Speaker 2: it really matters, to be honest with you, because you know,
Speaker 2: we're not always human, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, depending on your spiritual walk
Speaker 2: or your religion or whatever. Like it's pretty much well
Speaker 2: understood that like this is a temporary thing that we're
Speaker 2: inside of. It's not us, it's just our ride, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So whenever people get so attached
Speaker 2: like oh, be damned if you know humans came from monkeys,
Speaker 2: I'm like, who gives a fuck where humans came from?
Speaker 4: Because that's not That's not all we are, you know.
Speaker 3: Okay, you're taking it to the esoteric. I see where
Speaker 3: you're going.
Speaker 4: I mean beyond that really, I mean, well.
Speaker 3: To say we're souls having a human experience and like that, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I get that, but on this particular life cycle that
Speaker 3: we happen to find ourselves in, Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 2: You know what happens if and I know you don't
Speaker 2: believe in reincarnation, but if you did for a moment,
Speaker 2: what happened if you if you reincarnated into a fucking
Speaker 2: uh koala bear or some shit and other koala bears
Speaker 2: were like you were evolved from a rat, you were
Speaker 2: evolved from a fucking fish or something like that, and
Speaker 2: you'd be like, no, God did not create me like this,
Speaker 2: Like no, I know that, like I was created the
Speaker 2: way that I know that I was created.
Speaker 4: I was divinely created, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And it's like I got reincardinated into a koala. I
Speaker 3: did some horrible shit in my life. Those creatures there,
Speaker 3: their entire life consists of fucking and spreading gonorrhea, eating
Speaker 3: eucalyptus leaves which gets them fucked up out of their skull,
Speaker 3: and then sleeping and dying like that's their entire life
Speaker 3: is pain, fucking and getting blitzed, and like I'm good, well.
Speaker 4: Two out of three, I'll take.
Speaker 3: Raandy if your hand was raised first, go ahead.
Speaker 2: That's so.
Speaker 7: On the evolution evolutionary theory. I've read like so much
Speaker 7: about this and stuff, and.
Speaker 8: It still is kind of I can see how they
Speaker 8: put together the chain of events, and like how adaptation
Speaker 8: and evolution has like over time supposedly gone from one
Speaker 8: thing to the next, even while I studied it and like.
Speaker 7: Did all this stuff with it, so it was like
Speaker 7: it's kind of a.
Speaker 8: Hard jump to get from one to the next. Now
Speaker 8: I will say, it seems like there was like different
Speaker 8: So there was a whole bunch of them at one time,
Speaker 8: and then they slowly tapered off and like started to
Speaker 8: die and all this other stuff.
Speaker 7: So like the first models, the first gen models, like
Speaker 7: those were monkeys pretty much one hundred percent, and like
Speaker 7: I don't I never could understand the link between the two.
Speaker 7: But as you got closer to the ones that like
Speaker 7: the Neanderthals and stuff like that, you could see, like
Speaker 7: how adaptation over time could evolve, at least to a
Speaker 7: certain extent of like you know, standing upright, changing the
Speaker 7: size of the pelvis, changing the but there's no real
Speaker 7: reason as to why we needed to adapt, so like
Speaker 7: there is no significant reason as to why why do
Speaker 7: we need to change the shape of a pelvis from
Speaker 7: the Neanderthals till now, like why did they our skulls change?
Speaker 7: Like what was in the ear environment that caused the
Speaker 7: adaptation to happen, because overall, like adaptations happened to survive,
Speaker 7: But like, what was the actual reasoning to survive as
Speaker 7: you saw them could like travel and go places and
Speaker 7: stuff like that, they weren't. They were adopting their skin, yes,
Speaker 7: but they weren't adapting like all of their actual muscle
Speaker 7: muscular skeletal reasons. So I mean there's something to be had.
Speaker 7: It's like that. It almost reminds me of like you
Speaker 7: have like multiple generations, like oops, I fucked up that generation.
Speaker 9: Let's try again.
Speaker 7: Oops, let's go again, until we got to the human
Speaker 7: evolution of like all right, I guess we could deal
Speaker 7: with these ones.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I agree with you one hundred percent. There's
Speaker 3: small adaptational style changes and like you said, there for
Speaker 3: survival purposes, and that checks out to me. I can
Speaker 3: I can make sense of this. And even if you
Speaker 3: were to say, you know, an ice age or a
Speaker 3: younger dry a style global flood or something along these lines,
Speaker 3: if there was an evolutionary change that can be backtracked
Speaker 3: to a timeframe when some sort of a massive cataclysmic
Speaker 3: style event took place, all right, I can at least
Speaker 3: put those pieces together more often than not. Though the
Speaker 3: quote unquote time frame when they say that these massive
Speaker 3: leaps took place, there's not much of a a catalyst
Speaker 3: to initiate that kind of a jump, and especially not
Speaker 3: going from if we look at the darwin Esque story
Speaker 3: from the chimp to the walking guy, there's like five
Speaker 3: evolutionary changes that take place there. And it's like you're
Speaker 3: telling me there was five cataclysmic events that just so
Speaker 3: happened at the exact time to change from point A
Speaker 3: to point B to C to D to E. It's
Speaker 3: it doesn't really hold a lot of water in the
Speaker 3: reality spectrum. But again, I'm with you. It's a very
Speaker 3: interesting theory, and I don't believe it's something that we
Speaker 3: should base our quote unquote truth off of, but it
Speaker 3: is a theory that has been the subject of a
Speaker 3: lot of debate for quite some time.
Speaker 4: So for sure, Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess I just come from the point of like,
Speaker 2: if we were created, I would imagine that it was
Speaker 2: our soul created, and who gives a fuck about our body?
Speaker 2: That's because the buzz in our body currently dog, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but that's like not what all we are? You know,
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like people are able to remote view
Speaker 2: and astra project and go into these dreams, and people
Speaker 2: have near death experiences, and like all of that happens
Speaker 2: outside of this body.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So it's like, but my point is is that we exist.
Speaker 2: We can exist without the body.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, sure, but also if you suffer a stroke
Speaker 3: right now, I bet your body would mean a lot
Speaker 3: to you, or a heart attack, or if you broke
Speaker 3: your arm or some shit, you all of a sudden realize,
Speaker 3: oh my arm not oh wait, my spirit's arm isn't hurt.
Speaker 3: It's my body's arm. Yeah, it's your fucking arm in it?
Speaker 10: Sure?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if you're obviously you know we are
Speaker 2: here to experience all of the different physical the physicalities
Speaker 2: of this reality and whatnot. But I don't know anyway,
Speaker 2: Spirit animal, I was told that you are not going
Speaker 2: to be here tonight.
Speaker 4: How did you make it?
Speaker 2: Sirs?
Speaker 3: To the love of God, Sam, Wait, are you at
Speaker 3: home right now? Yes? Okay, you're not driving anywhere?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, fine, fine, I.
Speaker 11: Ain't missed alive yet and I'll be down if I do.
Speaker 2: That's the spirit, that's the fucking spirit animal rate there baby,
Speaker 2: that's why.
Speaker 5: Also, koalas forcibly rape each other and when the bet
Speaker 5: the young are born, they fall through a bottom of
Speaker 5: the vaganal call attack and they also eat the mother's
Speaker 5: uh feces to get a gut back to you.
Speaker 4: Leave it to Sam, Leave it to Sam to just
Speaker 4: know that kind of ship.
Speaker 3: There's tons of animals that do like rape essentially, and dolphins,
Speaker 3: dolphins see, otters are the fucking worst. Everybody's like, oh,
Speaker 3: they're so cute, they're so sweet, they hold their little
Speaker 3: hands and they're sleeping.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 3: They literally gang rape baby seals to death and then
Speaker 3: continue to rape the corpse until the entire fuck what's
Speaker 3: a is a business?
Speaker 12: Buss?
Speaker 2: They living in a fucking another world, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like their rules don't apply to us and
Speaker 2: vice versa. So we can't say, you know, shun all
Speaker 2: of them because they raped their babies and shit like that.
Speaker 3: No, No, they're animals, they're not humans. And I'm just
Speaker 3: saying I don't believe animals necessarily have a soul. I
Speaker 3: know people disagree with me on that, And now I'm
Speaker 3: not using otters as the fucking one lynchpin to that theory.
Speaker 3: There's multiple But like, I'm not saying we apply Otter
Speaker 3: logic to our lives. I'm just saying, yeah, animals be
Speaker 3: doing some wild fuck shit.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what, I'm happy that you brought that up,
Speaker 2: and I'm not trying to take it here, but just
Speaker 2: out of curiosity. If animals don't have a soul, then
Speaker 2: how did God speak to them to get on the
Speaker 2: Noah's Ark?
Speaker 3: He can control shit that doesn't have a soul. God
Speaker 3: also made weather happen. Does that mean weather has a soul?
Speaker 4: Well, there's an argument to be made.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he parted the Red Seas and brought plagues upon Egypt.
Speaker 3: Does that mean that the Red Sea has a soul?
Speaker 2: I mean they're elementals and people, many people throughout all
Speaker 2: time have looked at the elementals as if they are
Speaker 2: living things. I mean, that's how people were able to
Speaker 2: call upon the reins and call upon the winds, And
Speaker 2: you're interacting consciously with these things.
Speaker 4: So maybe it's a soul. I don't know.
Speaker 2: There's something more than to more to it than just
Speaker 2: fucking one hydrogen and two oxygens or whatever the other
Speaker 2: fucking is it two hydrogens and one oxygen.
Speaker 3: I think h two oh yeah two H one oh.
Speaker 3: I respectfully disagree. I think that's the same as to
Speaker 3: put it to another perspective, a computer programmer can come
Speaker 3: in and write a new code at any point he wants.
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that he gave this part of a
Speaker 3: code more importance than the other. He just changed it
Speaker 3: up because it suited his purposes. But again, that is
Speaker 3: just my take.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, you're entitled to that, Joel, What are your
Speaker 2: thoughts there?
Speaker 12: Ducks?
Speaker 13: Ducks also gang rape each other getting fucked like a duck?
Speaker 13: Ducks do ducks?
Speaker 14: Have you seen they.
Speaker 13: Gang rape, gang rape each other getting fucked like a book?
Speaker 3: You know who knew?
Speaker 2: Who would have thought?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, they have three out of the four words,
Speaker 4: so why not.
Speaker 3: I mean I was thinking, like, once I have a farm,
Speaker 3: I was thinking about having a couple of ducks, you know,
Speaker 3: a few of them, because the duck eggs sound great,
Speaker 3: and I don't know if I'm allergic to duck eggs,
Speaker 3: but I mean, shit, I don't know if I need
Speaker 3: all that kind of bullshit on my lamb. But then
Speaker 3: as I'm saying that, I do want chickens and chickens.
Speaker 3: If they see blood, they'll fucking cannibalize. They'll go fucking
Speaker 3: ape shit at each other, which I don't know if
Speaker 3: anybody has ever been to a cock fight before, but it's, uh,
Speaker 3: it's pretty wild. When they see blood, they just go
Speaker 3: fucking ape shit.
Speaker 4: Speaking of cockfights, animal.
Speaker 11: Do what sam Pigs will also cannibalize. I grew up
Speaker 11: on a farm.
Speaker 5: Also fun fact, my goat Bill Clinton, when I had him,
Speaker 5: I was like ten, I named him.
Speaker 11: Uh he would he would hump everything.
Speaker 5: He actually attacked my dad one time, knocked my dad
Speaker 5: over and try to mount my dad.
Speaker 3: So don't do man. That goat's name was Bill Clinton
Speaker 3: to everything.
Speaker 4: Maybe just been he had thought he was a dog.
Speaker 11: He would.
Speaker 5: He would also run up and he he would get
Speaker 5: in you know. So I had a old like ninety
Speaker 5: two banco when I was ten. I wanted to build it.
Speaker 5: I would always sit in it and do it, just
Speaker 5: this music in it and everything. It was like an
Speaker 5: oasis of that from the house. Bill would get up,
Speaker 5: he would sit in it with me.
Speaker 12: Well.
Speaker 5: I would also put on a motor dout bike helmet
Speaker 5: and try to bang heads with him.
Speaker 11: So it he was my buddy.
Speaker 4: You look like you would have done that.
Speaker 3: Uh, mister, No one like you, Sam. You come from
Speaker 3: the most colorful people, some might say the most colorful peoples.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Six on one hand, half doesn't the other. It's inter
Speaker 3: changeable dialogue in this point, you know.
Speaker 2: But any uh, mister Hendrakes, what ad do sir Tim Mothy.
Speaker 15: Man, I'm one of the guys that had some beef
Speaker 15: from the last episodes whenever you talked about the Nephaloon
Speaker 15: giants not being real hond faking get.
Speaker 12: But like you have, you're entitled to an opinion just
Speaker 12: like everybody else's.
Speaker 15: And I have no quarrels Like I was in the
Speaker 15: comments section and I was kind of raising hell a
Speaker 15: little bit about what.
Speaker 12: You were talking about, but I ain't got no.
Speaker 15: Quarrels with it, or like you are entitled to your
Speaker 15: own opinion just like I am. My problem is is
Speaker 15: whenever you were talking about like the Cult has never
Speaker 15: before in the past talked on their episodes to the
Speaker 15: Great Christianity in a certain way, And I'm not saying
Speaker 15: that's what you were doing, but it kind of gave.
Speaker 12: That f side. Like I don't know if you listen
Speaker 12: to that episode.
Speaker 15: Anytime Jacob would bring up something, you were like, you know,
Speaker 15: battling that instead of listening.
Speaker 12: We're all entitled Beliefs and Faith, and you were talking
Speaker 12: about candles.
Speaker 15: So you know, in the bottle, it even has two
Speaker 15: creatures that spoke to him, like the snake talked Eve
Speaker 15: and you have that vorce he asked it talked to
Speaker 15: the master that you know was beating them. I believe,
Speaker 15: like it's hard to understand faith. I don't know, I
Speaker 15: knows arc was actually real, but I like to believe
Speaker 15: it is and if we look into it deeper with
Speaker 15: the Nephilim. Uh, Like I don't believe in the Book
Speaker 15: of Enoch. I think the Book of Enoch is not
Speaker 15: written by Enoch that was mentioned in Genesis. I think
Speaker 15: that the Book of Enoch might have been written like
Speaker 15: kind of kind of like how Shakespeare was. Shakespeare was
Speaker 15: a you know, we talked about this on a cult
Speaker 15: not so long ago, y'all had an episode how Shakespeare
Speaker 15: was probably a group of people. I think Enoch was
Speaker 15: the same kind of way, like that book was written
Speaker 15: by a group of people. Yeah, most likely, but the
Speaker 15: I think during that time, Yeah, but during that time.
Speaker 12: Uh the Nephilim. Oh my god, I lost what I
Speaker 12: was gonna talk.
Speaker 2: About it a lot further than that happens like the Pyramids,
Speaker 2: for example.
Speaker 15: How like the pyramids. I'm sorry for the pyramids. How
Speaker 15: do we don't know how they built them? They could
Speaker 15: have probably used their minds to probably build them. We
Speaker 15: don't know what they built them for. And you know what,
Speaker 15: I'm gonna lure my hand and I'll come back to
Speaker 15: y'all and I'll have my boss put together.
Speaker 12: I'm sorry to waste time, but I was just you know,
Speaker 12: my bad.
Speaker 2: No, you're good. And I've and I've said since then
Speaker 2: in episodes past that I I apologize for you know people. Uh, well,
Speaker 2: I apologize for myself. First of all, I did not
Speaker 2: mean to sound degrading it to anybody's beliefs, anybody's faith,
Speaker 2: or anything like that. My entire point behind all of
Speaker 2: that was that does it require like so the idea
Speaker 2: of you taking something literal?
Speaker 4: Is that what you need to have faith in?
Speaker 2: Or and and and can it not just be a
Speaker 2: myth and you just have faith in what the moral
Speaker 2: of the message was. My My entire point was, it
Speaker 2: doesn't have to have happened in order for you to
Speaker 2: believe in the religion. And I think that the story
Speaker 2: is obviously more important than what happened in physical reality,
Speaker 2: because what happened in physical reality happened one time, maybe,
Speaker 2: And the story transverses through millions and millions and millions
Speaker 2: of mouths. And I'm not even saying that it's gone
Speaker 2: through the game of telephone. I'm not saying that. What
Speaker 2: I am saying is is that it's been a It's
Speaker 2: been a story that has been told millions of times.
Speaker 2: That's the point of the story. That's the moral of
Speaker 2: the story. What did you get from it? You know?
Speaker 2: And and that's kind of where I was coming from.
Speaker 2: But if people want to look at it as if
Speaker 2: it literally happened, I apologize for that. I was not
Speaker 2: trying to attack anybody's faith. I was just saying, you know,
Speaker 2: it's okay to believe in something that is kind of
Speaker 2: out there, you know, like you can believe in a
Speaker 2: myth like it's I don't I don't see any problem
Speaker 2: with believing in a myth. I'm not saying that that's
Speaker 2: what that that it was a myth. I think that
Speaker 2: I did say that I'm not saying that now. I
Speaker 2: was just trying to prove that it could be either way,
Speaker 2: and your faith shouldn't be shaken either way.
Speaker 3: But if we're going to keep it one hundred, let's
Speaker 3: go ahead and keep one that while here. Okay, there's
Speaker 3: been multiple times where you and I have gotten into
Speaker 3: it and I did attack the point that you were
Speaker 3: trying to make. Right. Example that comes to mind is
Speaker 3: the Emerald Tablets episode, and I was just fucking on one.
Speaker 3: Every time Billy Carson or anything that he would bring
Speaker 3: up his name was mentioned, I would just immediately shit
Speaker 3: on it without even hearing out the talking point. So
Speaker 3: it's not like I am not guilty of doing the
Speaker 3: exact same thing a time or two in my day
Speaker 3: as well, right, I mean, that's it's a thing that happens.
Speaker 3: We fuck up sometimes, and we I apologize for a
Speaker 3: lot of my statements that I made during then, although
Speaker 3: I am happy that I was right about Billy Carson
Speaker 3: and fuck that guy even to this day. But it's
Speaker 3: kind of the same thing as far as the myth
Speaker 3: versus reality a right, and using that as an example,
Speaker 3: this guy believed and I don't know if he even
Speaker 3: actually really believed her if it was all part of
Speaker 3: his big grift. But he believed that there was actual
Speaker 3: emerald tablets buried underneath the pyramids, not metaphor not symbolically,
Speaker 3: he meant physically, And he would go to these places
Speaker 3: and talk about it as if it was real life
Speaker 3: now for him, if it was supposed to be a metaphor,
Speaker 3: and if it was supposed to be no, no, See,
Speaker 3: the pyramids were built upon the knowledge given to us
Speaker 3: by the emerald tablets, and that would be one talking point,
Speaker 3: all right, cool, He meant physically, because the physical world
Speaker 3: versus the metaphorical world mean very very different things and
Speaker 3: lead a different level of credence to the overall view.
Speaker 2: Sure, and I think that that really points to something
Speaker 2: a little bit malleable whenever it comes to faith in
Speaker 2: a sense, because where do you really draw the line
Speaker 2: with faith? I mean, I think everybody has their own
Speaker 2: forms and their own definition of what true faith actually is.
Speaker 2: And people have believed in crazy shit for you know,
Speaker 2: going all the way back to probably the beginning of humanity,
Speaker 2: right like you've got people nowadays. And I don't think
Speaker 2: that anybody actually believes in the flying Spaghetti monster it's
Speaker 2: just a silly example, but there were people all throughout
Speaker 2: history that believed and had faith in all of these things.
Speaker 2: And and as a matter of fact, usually and I'm
Speaker 2: not even trying to attack anybody's faith, I also have faith.
Speaker 2: I think that it's important for people to have faith.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't even necessarily think that faith is
Speaker 2: something that should only be used whenever it comes to
Speaker 2: religious terms. You can have faith in yourself. You can
Speaker 2: have faith in your kids, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You can have faith that you're going to get to
Speaker 2: work today.
Speaker 3: I mean, I have faith that I'm going to wake
Speaker 3: up tomorrow morning. There really shit, It's very possible that
Speaker 3: a blood cloth that I am unaware of in my
Speaker 3: body right now, breaks free, hits my brain, and I
Speaker 3: die in my sleep. There is absolutely a possibility that
Speaker 3: that's real life. But I have faith that I will
Speaker 3: wake up tomorrow morning and greet the sun with the
Speaker 3: same level of vitriol that I do every fucking morning.
Speaker 3: I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking.
Speaker 2: I do want to say this, though, you know, I Uh,
Speaker 2: there's there's like a certain amount of energy that you
Speaker 2: have and somebody not I'm not taking it this far
Speaker 2: because somebody mentioned in the comments that I had supernatural
Speaker 2: anger towards the Bible, which that's that's taking it a step.
Speaker 2: But I don't really have supernatural anger towards anything.
Speaker 4: But I will.
Speaker 2: Admit that the energy that I brought to that episode
Speaker 2: did carry, you know, carry with me throughout the next
Speaker 2: few days. And I found myself like looking to debunk everything,
Speaker 2: and it's a weird thing. You fall into that mode
Speaker 2: and and I don't like that. So I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: be going about that kind of that kind of shit anymore.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be more of a live and let live
Speaker 2: kind of situation. And in my own personal opinion, not
Speaker 2: everybody has to agree with this. In my own personal opinion,
Speaker 2: what you believe is the truth? Like, and how can
Speaker 2: you tell anybody otherwise?
Speaker 3: I mean I struggle with that too. As far as
Speaker 3: live and let live goes. I mean, there are certain
Speaker 3: things that I can let go. And someone says something
Speaker 3: that I just overtly disagree with. Sometimes I want to
Speaker 3: debate this and have a little more open dialogue towards it,
Speaker 3: but sometimes I do decide that, like I guess today's
Speaker 3: the fucking day, and I you know, I'm trying to
Speaker 3: work on that myself. If you look back at like
Speaker 3: earlier episodes and we were still in the I don't know,
Speaker 3: under under one fifty club as far as episode's release goes,
Speaker 3: and you compare that to now as we are approaching
Speaker 3: nine to fifty, which I don't even what fucking episode
Speaker 3: are we.
Speaker 2: On in nineteen or something like that, nine seventeen, Okay,
Speaker 2: So yeah, as we're approaching nine fifty, I feel like
Speaker 2: you and I have grown and changed and evolved as
Speaker 2: our as ourselves as hosts and also in ourselves as
Speaker 2: our opinions on a lot of things.
Speaker 3: And I think that's a good thing. Side stamped tangent Dallas, spitfire.
Speaker 3: Your fucking shades are on points, sir, You're a beautiful soul.
Speaker 3: And as a matter of fact, I'm actually gonna throw
Speaker 3: on my fucking pgs for that same purpose this party
Speaker 3: glasses time, dude.
Speaker 2: I was about to say, let's snap into a slim gym.
Speaker 4: I just happen to have one too.
Speaker 3: Let only one guy had the fucking pit viper's rocking
Speaker 3: like that. I got a whole stack over. I've been
Speaker 3: rocking aviators, but it's time to throw them back.
Speaker 4: That's big dick energy, sir, big dick Energyesy, I love it.
Speaker 2: Uh, Timothy you uh?
Speaker 4: Did you want to finish what you were saying earlier.
Speaker 12: Sir, Yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 15: Side tangent talking about how you were questioning whether you're
Speaker 15: gonna do another Paul or you're gonna do a Paul episode.
Speaker 12: Or something to do with the Bible. I would really
Speaker 12: like it if you didn't.
Speaker 15: When that episode drops about the n flinbfaking game, then
Speaker 15: right afterwards the flood, My god, I was so freaking mad.
Speaker 15: I'm at work and I'm like doing my job, and
Speaker 15: I'm like having all these thoughts popping in.
Speaker 12: My head about how, like God, this is pissing me off.
Speaker 15: Like I appreciate it, Like you can look at it
Speaker 15: from a different standpoint, But to have an entire episode
Speaker 15: where if you went on the Sam Tripley Show again,
Speaker 15: or if you had somebody else as a guest on
Speaker 15: you mentioned some of the stuff that you were mentioning,
Speaker 15: I like, there's no, you do not come from a
Speaker 15: biblical background, and you like, I would love it if
Speaker 15: you did read the Bible and take it more literally
Speaker 15: and actually do more thought about it, because those episodes
Speaker 15: they literally hold no ground, they hold they have no
Speaker 15: water to them. I didn't understand where you're coming from
Speaker 15: with some of those facts. And I'm not being derogatory, buddy,
Speaker 15: I love you. I think you have a great standpoint
Speaker 15: on most of the stuff you look at, but that's
Speaker 15: it came from no grounds.
Speaker 3: That being said, hold on Astrian episode and we are
Speaker 3: not zora Astrians. We did an episode on the Muslim Brotherhood,
Speaker 3: not no, I'm sorry, not Muslim brother what's fair Khan's
Speaker 3: group of want to be Muslims what they called all
Speaker 3: hell Nation of Islam. Yeah, all hell ya koop and
Speaker 3: all that shit. We did episodes on those and shit
Speaker 3: on them the entire time. I'm just I'm gonna throw
Speaker 3: that out here. If we're gonna keep it fair and balanced,
Speaker 3: we got to keep it fair and bounced across the
Speaker 3: board right now. Granted, we didn't shit on zora Astrianism.
Speaker 3: Actually we did. I did a pretty decent deep dive
Speaker 3: on like what they are, where they come from, what
Speaker 3: they believe, and things like that. But it's like nothing
Speaker 3: is necessarily safe from the conversation, and I think that's
Speaker 3: a part of what makes this the open dialogue that
Speaker 3: it has become.
Speaker 2: And I will also say I'm not looking at the
Speaker 2: Bible from an illiterate standpoint. I have read the Bible
Speaker 2: and I continue to research the Bible just about every day. Actually,
Speaker 2: most people that I talk to that claim to be Christians,
Speaker 2: I guarantee you I know more stories and I know
Speaker 2: more facts about the Bible than most of the people
Speaker 2: that I have come in contact with. That's not to
Speaker 2: say that I know a shitload, but I've talked to
Speaker 2: plenty of people that, you know, they have just crazy
Speaker 2: amounts of faith. And then I ask him, Hey, did
Speaker 2: you hear about that story? And they're like, which one
Speaker 2: is that? And I'm like, oh, you don't remember the
Speaker 2: story of Lot and his Daughters. And they're like, no,
Speaker 2: I don't know that one. I'm like, how do you
Speaker 2: not know it?
Speaker 3: You know, like a pretty integral part of where and
Speaker 3: how the history got to the nation of Israel. If
Speaker 3: they don't know that one, that's pretty wide.
Speaker 2: But my point is is that there's a lot of
Speaker 2: people that just rely on mister pastor man preaching a message,
Speaker 2: and a lot of time that message is based upon
Speaker 2: one fucking quarter of an excerpt from the Bible that
Speaker 2: you talk about for an hour. It is chicken soup
Speaker 2: for the soul. Most people are totally okay with that. However,
Speaker 2: whenever I go and look into it, and I'm just
Speaker 2: re and I'm not gonna lie to you, I'm never
Speaker 2: going to look at it as if it's literal. I
Speaker 2: don't look at anything as if it's literal. I come
Speaker 2: from an esoteric understanding. I care about the deeper meaning
Speaker 2: to things. Looking at something as if it physically happened
Speaker 2: or literally happened has no basis in my life whatsoever.
Speaker 2: I want to know what the deeper message is. That's
Speaker 2: just the way my mind works. So to say that
Speaker 2: I don't know shit about the Bible because I didn't
Speaker 2: grow up and it is one hundred percent wrong, and
Speaker 2: I couldn't disagree with you more. But I do appreciate
Speaker 2: your thoughts. I do appreciate you, know you coming and
Speaker 2: talking about it. But I will say, if all of
Speaker 2: if both of those messages really pissed you off, I
Speaker 2: would be curious as to why they pissed you off,
Speaker 2: just out of curiosity, because you know, if you're so
Speaker 2: strong and you're so powerful in your faith and your belief,
Speaker 2: then what anybody else has to say about what you
Speaker 2: believe shouldn't shake you one bit. It shouldn't ruin your day.
Speaker 2: So I'd be curious as to why that happens, Sir.
Speaker 12: I was just talking about how the Netphlione would be taking.
Speaker 15: Gay whenever I could throw up some as terrorism behind
Speaker 15: our daily lives that we have, for instance, like why
Speaker 15: are we living in such a society where everything is
Speaker 15: about sex and it's all about like drugs, money, it's selfishness.
Speaker 15: Everything about our daily lives is so evil and it's
Speaker 15: nothing in what Jesus had in mind for us, Like, well,
Speaker 15: that's why he came down here, right, My thing is okay?
Speaker 12: When Jesus was crucified, y'all mentioned it a little bit
Speaker 12: on the episode.
Speaker 15: A couple other episodes in the past go Gotha's skull
Speaker 15: right when he was piercing aside, his blood ran down
Speaker 15: and was in Gliaf's skull.
Speaker 12: His head was in the ground from David way back
Speaker 12: in the past.
Speaker 15: We could draw some esotericism from that, like and we
Speaker 15: got the Book of Knock the Watchers, we got the metallurgy, scientology,
Speaker 15: like not scientology, but good, I'm coming from all the
Speaker 15: science that we have from thousands of years.
Speaker 12: You know where I'm getting from.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I understand what you're saying, but.
Speaker 12: I did not know about your background faith.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do want to say, no, I'm not I'm
Speaker 2: not the first person to look at the Bible esoterically. Like,
Speaker 2: that's not a new thing. I mean, Rosicrucianism has been
Speaker 2: doing it for forever. The Kabbala has been doing that,
Speaker 2: you know, even dating back to the Torah. And I'm
Speaker 2: sure that they've looked at the Bible in such a way.
Speaker 2: There are plenty of different secret societies. Look at Freemasonry.
Speaker 2: There is a free Masonic Bible. Okay, So I'm not
Speaker 2: the I'm not the first person to ever look at
Speaker 2: you know, any of these things esoterically. It's not like
Speaker 2: I invented esotericism. And by the way, all esotericism means
Speaker 2: is just like looking at the deeper meaning to something
Speaker 2: like it doesn't have to necessarily it doesn't have to
Speaker 2: necessarily be that like, oh, I see that there was
Speaker 2: a prayer to the Dark Lord written within this fragment
Speaker 2: of a sentence it's not like that, So I just al.
Speaker 3: Will say as far as that goes, Hey, look at
Speaker 3: biblical things as if they are not reality. I look
Speaker 3: at a lot of metaphysical and esoteric things is that
Speaker 3: they are also not reality.
Speaker 4: But we also disagree about what reality is.
Speaker 2: So I look at esotericism as if that is the
Speaker 2: basis of the the cornerstone of this reality. Because I'm
Speaker 2: personally of the belief that consciousness precedes anything materialistic, and
Speaker 2: if that's the way that we're supposed to look at it,
Speaker 2: you know, And that's kind of what quantum mechanics is
Speaker 2: really showing right now, is that consciousness came before fucking everything, and.
Speaker 3: So consciousness like for instance, when a new baby is born,
Speaker 3: they're not conscious of what's going on around them until
Speaker 3: they're like two.
Speaker 2: How can you say you're that you've never looked into
Speaker 2: quantum mechanics. You've never you have.
Speaker 3: So as much as we have done a show on this,
Speaker 3: really we I have never looked into quantum mechanics too,
Speaker 3: So wait episodes on it.
Speaker 2: Wait a second, you can't say that something is not true.
Speaker 2: They literally just found it, like not that long ago.
Speaker 2: That's a fact.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not saying I looked into it years ago.
Speaker 3: I'm saying you and I have looked into it together
Speaker 3: on this show. I know a thing or two about
Speaker 3: quantum mccannks. I'm not an expert by any fucking means,
Speaker 3: but yeah, I know a thing or two.
Speaker 2: Yeah. My point is, and see, that's another example, because
Speaker 2: it's okay for you to say that something that I
Speaker 2: believe is not true, yet if I do it, then
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I'm not even trying to
Speaker 2: be petty about it, but that's kind of the point
Speaker 2: that I'm trying to make, and that you know, people
Speaker 2: are more accepting of things that they believe in. I
Speaker 2: mean rightfully so. But then whenever somebody attacks what you believe, well,
Speaker 2: then that person it clearly has some kind of demonic
Speaker 2: fucking spirit attached to them. I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 2: if I believe in that either. I'm not even saying
Speaker 2: that that's what you're saying, Tim, but there were a
Speaker 2: lot of people that were And that's what I don't
Speaker 2: agree with.
Speaker 3: I'm saying that for instance, Like I'm not saying you've
Speaker 3: said this, Jonathan, but a lot of people of the
Speaker 3: quote unquote spiritual woo woo variety go on and on
Speaker 3: about divine, feminine, divine masculine energy. I think that entire
Speaker 3: conversation is fucking bullshit from the ground up. And I've
Speaker 3: broken that down to the actual original alchemical texts and
Speaker 3: what they were talking about. Now, me saying that is
Speaker 3: going to piss off a wide birth of people. And
Speaker 3: that's cool and cool. Let me tell you the shit
Speaker 3: on anybody's cheerios here.
Speaker 2: But and let me tell you, but you're not going
Speaker 2: to get a single negative thing told to you in
Speaker 2: the comments.
Speaker 3: Oh, I've had plenty, plenty of I'm usually the one
Speaker 3: that gets shipped on, dude.
Speaker 2: Not whenever it comes to esoteric shit, not whenever it
Speaker 2: comes to spiritual shit.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's fair. Most of the spiritual people
Speaker 3: just kind of already know what I'm bringing to the table,
Speaker 3: so they just tune it out at this point.
Speaker 2: That's But the point is is that your lack of
Speaker 2: belief in something does not determ my belief in something,
Speaker 2: and but for some reason the other way around.
Speaker 4: It just absolutely revels feathers.
Speaker 3: Okay. And we've talked about this too, right, because half
Speaker 3: of the world's population doesn't believe in what I just said.
Speaker 3: Half of the world's population believes in the Book of
Speaker 3: in the five Books of the Torah like that, And
Speaker 3: I don't mean half is in like a generality. Here,
Speaker 3: twenty eight percent of the world's population is Christian, twenty
Speaker 3: percent is Muslim, and I think we can be pretty
Speaker 3: generous and say at least two percent are Jewish, So
Speaker 3: we're talking about at least fifty percent of the world's
Speaker 3: population acknowledges the five Books of the Torah, including the
Speaker 3: story about the flood and the Nephelum, to be facts,
Speaker 3: not esoteric, not philosophical, not metaphoric, factual one plus one
Speaker 3: equals two. No, that can't be me, he's saying, because
Speaker 3: there's a lot of Christians that don't literally believe every
Speaker 3: single word. I mean, that's why there's forty thousand fucking
Speaker 3: different denominations of it. That's that is not why there's
Speaker 3: different denominations because of the Book of Genesis. Dude.
Speaker 2: Now, what I'm saying is is that not everybody believes
Speaker 2: the Bible exactly how you believe it.
Speaker 3: True, but they believe it to be the truly divinely
Speaker 3: inspired word otherwise they can't consider themselves a Christian.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, but it doesn't have to. You don't have
Speaker 2: to take it literally in order to consider yourself a Christian.
Speaker 3: Not one hundred percent. Yeah, Okay, to your point, if
Speaker 3: you're taking in the earlier stories to kind of be
Speaker 3: a story to teach us what we need to learn
Speaker 3: from it and we move on with our day, Okay,
Speaker 3: there's something to be said for that. But I would
Speaker 3: argue that the vast, vast majority of Christians do believe
Speaker 3: them to be hard factual statements, and the same with
Speaker 3: the Muslims, the same with the Jews. Would I would
Speaker 3: argue that the people that believe these are myths are
Speaker 3: in the very drastic minority as far as that conversation
Speaker 3: is concerned. So me saying things about the alchemical texts
Speaker 3: and things like that, that's a minority of people that
Speaker 3: even acknowledge these things to be something of factual basis.
Speaker 3: And so, yeah, I'm pissing off somebody by that standard,
Speaker 3: probably a lot less people than saying the Nephlam are
Speaker 3: faking gay that that I think I'm one is kind
Speaker 3: of shooting towards the minority. One is shooting towards the
Speaker 3: vast majority.
Speaker 2: By the way, I didn't think that anyone anybody would
Speaker 2: get upset that I said, the Nephilum is faking gay.
Speaker 2: I saw this joke one time where this this guy
Speaker 2: goes yo. I walked into the I walked into church
Speaker 2: on a Sunday one time, and I said, fuck the
Speaker 2: devil and he got kicked out right obviously. But who cares, like,
Speaker 2: you know, fuck the Nephelom like I don't anyway, Carl,
Speaker 2: mister Carl, go right ahead, sir, what are your two cents?
Speaker 3: Thank you? Right?
Speaker 2: I am new to this group.
Speaker 10: I just discover you because I was a secondary nine
Speaker 10: to eleven responder and I found that you all had
Speaker 10: interviewed Christopher Berlin, which just amazed me because I've met
Speaker 10: him talk to him in person before, but have not
Speaker 10: been in touch for years because he I think he's
Speaker 10: been in Sweden. I'm not sure where anyway. I would
Speaker 10: love to talk to you about that offline sometimes, but
Speaker 10: on the current topic, just having picked up on what
Speaker 10: you're discussing, I would ponder the concept that all of us,
Speaker 10: throughout our lives have been exposed to many narratives sequentially
Speaker 10: and quote religious or spiritual narratives tend to be something
Speaker 10: that defined a community, and one cannot be stay in
Speaker 10: that community unless you swear that you adhere to certain
Speaker 10: aspects of the narrative. But yet I would went to
Speaker 10: a among other books, The Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reid.
Speaker 10: I'm not sure if you've ever heard of it. He
Speaker 10: was a journalist for the Times of London during the
Speaker 10: build up to World War Two, and he was driven
Speaker 10: from his profession as he began to write about what
Speaker 10: he saw as the influence of quote Talmudic Zionism in geopolitics.
Speaker 10: And once driven from his profession, he was able to
Speaker 10: finish researching and write his book, which was published some
Speaker 10: years a year or two after he died nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 10: An extraordinary text. You can find that full text at
Speaker 10: archive dot org. But he writes that as well accepted
Speaker 10: among many rabbis, that the story of Moses, etc. Are
Speaker 10: even adopted from other historic cultures, and in particular Deuteronomy,
Speaker 10: which is like the power of genocide everything else. It's
Speaker 10: sort of astonishing to read in an appendix in that book,
Speaker 10: The Controversy of Zion, read that juxtaposes key excerpts from
Speaker 10: Deuteronomy and from the New Testament, and when you read
Speaker 10: them out loud, you know the mandates too. When you
Speaker 10: go into the land eye ya am giving to you
Speaker 10: leave nothing alive with breath in it. You know, it's
Speaker 10: a whole different, uh sense, than than the New Testament.
Speaker 10: So what what what do you think about just even
Speaker 10: the concept of these narratives functioning in our brains as
Speaker 10: if software, And yeah, different systems run better or worse
Speaker 10: depending on the software. And uh yeah, I like.
Speaker 2: Where you're going there, almost like archetypal a little bit.
Speaker 10: And just not not to offend anyone's particular belief, if
Speaker 10: we can sort of sort of step back from our
Speaker 10: you know, the degree to which we're attached to, and
Speaker 10: we'll defend, you know, to the death, whatever narrative we're
Speaker 10: most strongly imprinted with, if we accept that that narrative
Speaker 10: is what keeps us bound to a community like those
Speaker 10: who are in Oh, I forgot, I didn't finish saying.
Speaker 10: What Reid found that even Rabbis agree with is that
Speaker 10: Deuteronomy was not crafted or written at the time it
Speaker 10: purported to purports to be at the time of Moses,
Speaker 10: and then it was discovered, you know, a scroll in
Speaker 10: the rubble upon returning from the Babylonian exile. The argument
Speaker 10: read Discovers and accepted among many rabbis, as it was
Speaker 10: crafted during the Babylonian exile to perfect the management of
Speaker 10: the community, even if dispersed and an exile, that there
Speaker 10: would always be the mandate you must always year into
Speaker 10: return to the land that you know, the Yale first
Speaker 10: gave the people. But yet all the world belongs to you.
Speaker 10: Go forth and conquer, essentially. But but that even if
Speaker 10: you're living, you know, comfortably full of wealth in a
Speaker 10: land far from you know, the Levant, you were supposed
Speaker 10: to feel as if a captive, and you're to view
Speaker 10: those you know, who run the society around you as
Speaker 10: your captors. That you're you know, you're you're if in
Speaker 10: a sense, sitting to have not not be yearning to
Speaker 10: return to the Levant, to the the quote holy Holy Land.
Speaker 10: So with that in mind, you know, one finds that
Speaker 10: Hitler actually had strong support among Zionists, and part of
Speaker 10: that Zioni's perspective was those Jews who are not willing
Speaker 10: to return to quote Palestine what was to become the
Speaker 10: new political state of Israel. They were worthy of destruction
Speaker 10: of quote Holocaust because they were unfaithful if they didn't
Speaker 10: at the first opportunity actually go back to repopulate that
Speaker 10: that land. So it's a service strange alliance that one
Speaker 10: does find evidence for the the history of that narrative interesting.
Speaker 3: I think that that's very interesting. I'd be curreus used
Speaker 3: to hear because you said, like Talmudic text and when
Speaker 3: you're talking about like them being exiled to Babylon, that's
Speaker 3: when they wrote the Babylonian Talmud.
Speaker 10: And I get that due to so they began writing
Speaker 10: that wasn't really I mean, that was being you know,
Speaker 10: it's quote the oral teachings reduced to writing the debates
Speaker 10: among the great rabbis that like what nine thousand pages.
Speaker 10: I hear that it took like six hundred years. Many
Speaker 10: of the Talmudic writings are are post Christ because they
Speaker 10: actually speak, you know, pretty disrespectfully of Christ and marry
Speaker 10: et cetera.
Speaker 3: No, you're good, But the Babylonian Talmud was written prior
Speaker 3: to Christ. They were exiled into Babylon, and then Cyrus
Speaker 3: the Great from Persia is the one that actually held
Speaker 3: the whole reason why he's called the great is because
Speaker 3: of them, as a matter of fact, and that was
Speaker 3: all pre Jesus. But there was other iterations of the
Speaker 3: Talmud that was added on. You're right, post Christ. I
Speaker 3: think it's a fascinating commerce for sure. Would they do
Speaker 3: more digging into that, because.
Speaker 10: I want to add to you just one other you know,
Speaker 10: out of left field. I've just in the last year
Speaker 10: discovered a truly great economist, one of the few people
Speaker 10: I think has earned the name Michael Hudson. He's like
Speaker 10: mid eighties. There are a lot of really fascinating interviews
Speaker 10: of him on you on YouTube. He's been interviewed. Yeah,
Speaker 10: he's worked, you know, on the Wall Street. He helped
Speaker 10: really define the essence of the petro dollar system back
Speaker 10: at the time it was put into place. But he's
Speaker 10: written in his research about the origins of debt and
Speaker 10: the money. He organized a series of conferences out of
Speaker 10: Harvard University for like twenty years with experts from all
Speaker 10: over the world on ancient Near East anthropology, languages, et cetera.
Speaker 10: And they discerned that the real yah change about the
Speaker 10: time of Christ that occurred was Yeah, of course, Christ's
Speaker 10: you announced his mandate as bringing the year of Jubilee.
Speaker 10: You the debt forgiveness, and Michael Hudson argues that it
Speaker 10: literally truly meant monetary debt forgiveness, because up to that
Speaker 10: point in history in the Mesopotamia region, the tradition was
Speaker 10: all kings would periodically forgive the unpayable uh debt, personal
Speaker 10: debts of the population, because otherwise usually those debts were
Speaker 10: all attached to agriculture. The societies were agricultural and if one,
Speaker 10: you know, one would.
Speaker 11: Have to borrow.
Speaker 10: The seeds to pmantho land, they would have to borrow
Speaker 10: the cattle to pull the you know, the plow to
Speaker 10: plow the land. And if then the crop failed at
Speaker 10: the time you were supposed to pay your debt on
Speaker 10: the threshing room floor when the crops came in. If
Speaker 10: the crops failed, well you were you were stocked. You
Speaker 10: were in debt. And what the kings struggled with was
Speaker 10: there will always be a group, let's call them the
Speaker 10: aspiring oligarchs, who held the debt, that personal debt that
Speaker 10: could never be repaid because of the devastation of the
Speaker 10: flood or the drought whatever. So that if the king
Speaker 10: didn't cause those personal debts to be forgiven, people would
Speaker 10: gradually be enslaved to the quote oligarch class, who would
Speaker 10: gain control of the land, and then the people would
Speaker 10: no longer be free to serve in the military of
Speaker 10: the king or to build public works projects like the
Speaker 10: wall around the city or roads.
Speaker 12: Et cetera.
Speaker 10: So the kings would forgive the personal debts to prevent
Speaker 10: the development of the competition with the oligarch class, because
Speaker 10: they wanted to keep a free population. The kings did,
Speaker 10: and the argument going being and Hudson his most recent
Speaker 10: book is titled and to Forgive Them their Debts. That's
Speaker 10: actually the tip of the book, taken from the lord's
Speaker 10: prayer as it originally was, whether it really truly meant
Speaker 10: and forgive us, forgive us our debts, as we for
Speaker 10: give our debtors. Well, over time it was morphed into well,
Speaker 10: forgive us our trespasses, forgive us our sins. Because about
Speaker 10: the type of christ. Roman and Greek civilization didn't have
Speaker 10: the tradition of debt forgiveness. They actually brought with them
Speaker 10: the tradition that the king would enforce the collection of debts.
Speaker 10: The enslavement of people to the rising oligarch class. So
Speaker 10: that's how they that's how they actually. You know, the
Speaker 10: Pharisees presented Christ to the Roman authorities as a threat.
Speaker 10: He said, this man says he's king of our people,
Speaker 10: which in the historic meeting, that meant well, he wants
Speaker 10: to forgive the debts, and Caesar would Caesar wouldn't be
Speaker 10: happy with that, right.
Speaker 3: So depends on the historical precedent you're talking about here.
Speaker 3: There are examples historically speaking of kings, or let's just
Speaker 3: call them the ruling class, forgiving the debts of their fiefdoms,
Speaker 3: for lack of better words, of their empires. That is
Speaker 3: a rarity, especially we're talking about Greek and Rome. And
Speaker 3: you know, if you couldn't pay your debt, then you
Speaker 3: would sell yourself into slavery to the state to pay
Speaker 3: off that debt. And then even in the Hebrew culture,
Speaker 3: that was a way that you would do it. But
Speaker 3: you only had so long to pay off your debt,
Speaker 3: and then your slavery would only last for so many years,
Speaker 3: and depending on what the debt was or what the
Speaker 3: offense was, it would be whether seven or thirty or
Speaker 3: whatever the case was, but it was never supposed to
Speaker 3: be a life sentence. You were never supposed to be
Speaker 3: born and die within slavery like that. But yeah, as
Speaker 3: far as Hebrew tradition goes, which we're talking about with
Speaker 3: Jesus and the Pharisees and things, yes they did have
Speaker 3: a debt forgiveness precedence, but there was a little more
Speaker 3: stipulation to that. And yeah, of course the king could say,
Speaker 3: you know what, this guy, his debt is forgiven because
Speaker 3: I said so, because I'm the king.
Speaker 2: Like that.
Speaker 3: Absolutely is a thing that took place, but that was
Speaker 3: way more of a rarity than it was a standard
Speaker 3: rule in practice.
Speaker 10: Check Al Hudson. I mean I read you find his
Speaker 10: book or just his lectures on YouTube. Again, that book
Speaker 10: is another of his books. I actually gave a copy
Speaker 10: of this to Senator Ron Johnson. I'm you may have
Speaker 10: seen he referred on during both the Tucker not Tucker
Speaker 10: Carlson James Corbett, and also a redacted interview that he
Speaker 10: had had to serendip this meeting with a you know,
Speaker 10: former nine to eleven. I was a secondary nine to
Speaker 10: eleven responder. I helped if the rubble at number seven
Speaker 10: and I've persisted in being more or less a whistleblower
Speaker 10: for a long time, and I actually bumped into the
Speaker 10: Senator at his office building trying to make contact and
Speaker 10: have since been interviewed by his investigations committee about my
Speaker 10: related experience. But I gave me a copy of this
Speaker 10: thin book by Michael Hudson, along with some other yeah,
Speaker 10: documentation of my nine to eleven responder assignment. And there's
Speaker 10: a thin book titled Finance as Warfare, and it contains
Speaker 10: you know, the essence of that book is also in
Speaker 10: the easier read and forgive them their debts being the
Speaker 10: other book.
Speaker 12: But no.
Speaker 10: Hudson's research determines that there was a serious tradition of
Speaker 10: periodic debt forgiveness. Not business debts, not if you borrow
Speaker 10: money to open a you know, a Starbucks three thousand
Speaker 10: years ago and babblon, you know that that you're you're
Speaker 10: gonna have to make good on that. But if it
Speaker 10: was a personal debt that was due to things like
Speaker 10: failed crops, those would be the term was clean slate.
Speaker 10: Let's just wipe the slate clean, because otherwise society would
Speaker 10: become dysfunctional, it would become polarized between those who gained
Speaker 10: control of more of the land and those who were
Speaker 10: just stuck in debt.
Speaker 3: And I just looked up both of those books. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna do more digging into those books for sure, because
Speaker 3: they sound fascinating.
Speaker 9: Well.
Speaker 10: The Hudson point to this as an example of the
Speaker 10: ultimate problem in today's world is that we've allowed the
Speaker 10: word world to evolve into a debt based oligarchy. Of course,
Speaker 10: we're all slaves to the federal debt, which is increasing exponentially.
Speaker 10: Hudson says that in this concept of it was a
Speaker 10: pervasive concept in the Mesopotamia area of the role of
Speaker 10: the king even prior to prior to the Hebrews, I mean,
Speaker 10: before it was in the Hebrew Bible. It was a
Speaker 10: tradition in the region. It really was brought into the
Speaker 10: Hebrew Bible out of that that historical tradition. So he
Speaker 10: argues in that day that the people of the economists
Speaker 10: in Mesopotamia, he says, it's been discerned from the cuto
Speaker 10: form or whatever writings, they had a better understanding and
Speaker 10: teaching in the nature of interest bearing debt and you know,
Speaker 10: or usery based the power of it to exponentially grow
Speaker 10: whereas agricultural or other productive activity only would grow following
Speaker 10: an S curve. It would you go through a Selew
Speaker 10: perium growth, it would accelerate that it would level off,
Speaker 10: but the increase of productive capacity could never match the
Speaker 10: rate of the growth of debt. So basically, Hudson argues,
Speaker 10: in today's world, there needs to be some mechanism of
Speaker 10: erasing some of the at least the the interest bearing
Speaker 10: aspect of global debt, or else the system, you know,
Speaker 10: utterly completely fails. And maybe that would take the form
Speaker 10: of I mean, what would happen if the federal debt
Speaker 10: if they just said, well, we're going to zero out
Speaker 10: the interest over time, We're going to pay off the
Speaker 10: principle on your treasury notes. But you know, the exponential
Speaker 10: growth of compound interest, Einstein said, has asked what's the
Speaker 10: most powerful force in the universe, he said, compound interest.
Speaker 10: Otherwise the system doesn't functions functionally. Arguably would be better
Speaker 10: off with a link and s Lincoln like greenback system.
Speaker 10: From the topic you were you were on with, I
Speaker 10: barged in, so thanks for your listen. I'd love to
Speaker 10: talk to you off on sometimes. Tell me about getting
Speaker 10: getting I would love to be in an interview with
Speaker 10: Christop rub the lidded and Richard Gage. I think the
Speaker 10: three of us have slightly differing perspectives that it would
Speaker 10: be h very very interesting.
Speaker 3: DM me on Patreon, dude, uh and and we will
Speaker 3: set that up. I would love to talk to you
Speaker 3: further about these topics, as well as your hands on
Speaker 3: experience with the UH nine to eleven cleanup and things
Speaker 3: like that. So please DM me, and we're going to
Speaker 3: set something, which is what I kind of wanted to diet.
Speaker 10: I'm a bit of a technological dinosaur. I've just you're
Speaker 10: You're my first Patreon group i've joined. I don't know
Speaker 10: how does a wether DM in Patreon? Where do you
Speaker 10: see that to click on?
Speaker 2: Okay, so good, it should be pretty easy to find.
Speaker 2: But I do want to ask you. Are you the
Speaker 2: guy that found the fucking passport in the rubble?
Speaker 9: Sir?
Speaker 2: You're going out there, you're digging through the rubble with you?
Speaker 3: Are you the guy it was not?
Speaker 10: I'll tell you in the nutshell. I was a TIME
Speaker 10: nine to eleven. I was a special agent with US
Speaker 10: Customs Office of Internal Affairs in the DC area, and
Speaker 10: I was among many who volunteered and were sent up
Speaker 10: there in the fall of two thousand and one, and uniquely,
Speaker 10: those of us had internal affairs were assigned every other
Speaker 10: day to Fresh Kills Landfill to sift the finer rubble
Speaker 10: of World Center seven, which was brought to the landfill.
Speaker 10: We worked on large sifting machinery and we were tasked
Speaker 10: with sifting out any possible computer components. And we were told, well,
Speaker 10: we were told basically our briefing was not classified. We
Speaker 10: were told, matter of factly. Among the building seven occupants
Speaker 10: were a CIA, it turns out, probably the largest domestic
Speaker 10: office outside of Virginia, Secret Service, other offices that didn't
Speaker 10: want any of their computer components left in the landfill.
Speaker 10: So plausible story. It was only some years later doctor
Speaker 10: Stephen Jones work alerted me to the understanding at number
Speaker 10: seven was yeah, the forty seven stories collapsed into his
Speaker 10: own footprint seven seconds, all the things Richard Gage has
Speaker 10: well helped all of us realize in more recent years.
Speaker 10: But of course, in retrospect, I pondered that, well, if
Speaker 10: there had been maybe a botched demolition attempt in seven,
Speaker 10: maybe it was supposed to be brought down in the
Speaker 10: dust clouds of one and two, and ultimately you know
Speaker 10: that was botched, and so they had to do it
Speaker 10: conspicuously at five the afternoon. We may have inadvertently been
Speaker 10: helping someone by sifting out any demolition electronics that weren't
Speaker 10: destroyed due to the earlier botched attempt. And I feel
Speaker 10: I'm probably actually the only person who had such a
Speaker 10: tasking I've known to speak out about it. And I
Speaker 10: think the reason is, and I explained this to Senator
Speaker 10: Johnson and to his PSI subcommittee staff, that when I
Speaker 10: was eligible to leave the government at fifty in two
Speaker 10: thousand and seven, and I was presented, but I want
Speaker 10: to put my paperwork, they held a non disclosure for
Speaker 10: him in front of me and said, sorry, you can't
Speaker 10: leave until you signed this. And you know, after twenty
Speaker 10: six some years, it's seems like, gosh, they should have
Speaker 10: shown me that on the front end. So all those
Speaker 10: years I would have been realizing what I have to
Speaker 10: not remember, you know, as opposed to you're about to
Speaker 10: leave and you're aware of some things you think might
Speaker 10: constitute treason and you have every intention of well, I
Speaker 10: actually as soon as I left the government, I volunteered
Speaker 10: with Ron Paul's two thousand and eight campaign, and I
Speaker 10: was hired soon thereafter to be a I was a
Speaker 10: security director of the two thousand and eight campaign because well,
Speaker 10: who else was volunteering for Ron Paul who'd actually worked
Speaker 10: Secret Service details which I had as a customs agent.
Speaker 10: We were borrowed by Secret Service for you know, busy
Speaker 10: you know, during the campaign season they needed lots of
Speaker 10: extra personnel. But in an event, So I think there
Speaker 10: are a lot of people who would love to, you know,
Speaker 10: speak openly with Senator Johnson, et cetera. But you know
Speaker 10: what I did when I thought about it, I just
Speaker 10: wrote handro then under a protest above the signature line.
Speaker 10: And I felt that that, you know, absolved to me
Speaker 10: of any obligation to conceal an understanding of treason in
Speaker 10: the US of nine to eleven, for example. So I'm
Speaker 10: thinking of, you know, all the other colleagues I had,
Speaker 10: who I mean, even if I message them and LinkedIn,
Speaker 10: they don't respond because I think they're probably just they're
Speaker 10: afraid to talk about it because well, gosh, you know,
Speaker 10: well'll lose their pension because the way the world is today,
Speaker 10: I mean, a federal pension was a great blessing, and
Speaker 10: you know, their families depend upon it, et cetera. Maybe
Speaker 10: they feel like what they have to contribute informationally wouldn't
Speaker 10: make much of a difference, so that those nondisclosure agreements
Speaker 10: carry us. Yeah, I imagine even when people like Senator
Speaker 10: Johnson unfortually probably you're given money by APAC, there's probably
Speaker 10: it's probably made very clear thereafter once you've taken the money,
Speaker 10: you really better do exactly everything you're told to do,
Speaker 10: or it's probably probably the same if you signed that
Speaker 10: non disclosure agreement when you leave. You know, especially the
Speaker 10: internal affairs side of a government agency, if you have
Speaker 10: not put the caveat under protest so that they can't
Speaker 10: really reasonably enforce it whether you're doing except thank you, we.
Speaker 3: Need to have you on as a guest to discuss
Speaker 3: all of this, start to finish in depth. All right,
Speaker 3: When you're on Patreon, there's a message option. It should
Speaker 3: be at the bottom if you're on your phone like
Speaker 3: message dm us, like, you know, send us a message
Speaker 3: and we are going to set something up, Jonathan, I
Speaker 3: think we can fairly agree on that, right.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And as a matter of fact, I was like, man,
Speaker 2: I want to keep on listening to this, but this
Speaker 2: is a live show and I'd love to be able
Speaker 2: to have you on as an individual show. So look,
Speaker 2: we don't want to run them, we want the whole
Speaker 2: fucking cow sirs.
Speaker 10: Any chance you can bring Christopher Blinn back on, because
Speaker 10: I actually where I differed with perspectives. I met Christopher
Speaker 10: Berlin after a conference here in the DC. I live
Speaker 10: in Alexandria, Virginia.
Speaker 2: What part of Alexandria the north side of Old Town?
Speaker 12: And cowbo dude.
Speaker 3: Old Town is a great spot.
Speaker 10: I love it is until you realize the the mindset
Speaker 10: of most of those who seized control as board members
Speaker 10: of your condo association, and you also basically run the
Speaker 10: politics of Old Town, which is uh.
Speaker 3: All right, I just like the restaurants, agreed.
Speaker 10: But here's another And I when I was talking with
Speaker 10: Christopher Ballin over at dinner we were at actually a
Speaker 10: group of us after the conference, went to, uh whatever
Speaker 10: the tavern is that you George Washington used to actually
Speaker 10: eat there in Old Town. It's yeah, have a famous spot.
Speaker 10: So and I had been at the time. I was
Speaker 10: stuck on having read a lot, researched a lot about
Speaker 10: the Jesuits as a military order, their influence for nearly
Speaker 10: five hundred years, and I was making an argument with Christopher, well,
Speaker 10: surely this can't all have happened without this superior General
Speaker 10: of the Jesuits having signed off on it. And in
Speaker 10: more recent years, as the last couple, I've begun to
Speaker 10: ponder the true impact of Vatican two nineteen sixty five,
Speaker 10: when the Pope decreed that headsforth all good Catholics will
Speaker 10: view all Jews as brothers. And I see the reality
Speaker 10: of it in my condo building, which I believe is
Speaker 10: a Judeo Catholic building, not Judeo Christian, but they're sort
Speaker 10: of they're aligned at the hip. In twenty twenty two,
Speaker 10: the World Jewish Congress, if you reached google this, the
Speaker 10: WJC opened the offices at the Vatican, and there's a
Speaker 10: remarkable picture of the President of the World Jewish Congress,
Speaker 10: Ron Louder, heir to the Este Lauder Cosmetics Foundation. He's
Speaker 10: standing there in a you know, five thousand dollars suit,
Speaker 10: you know, speaking I think as the one in authority
Speaker 10: over the Pope and his couple of you know minions
Speaker 10: there and they're you know, they're fine attire and such,
Speaker 10: but the power of that, and you know, going back
Speaker 10: to that that the Roman Catholic Church for a good
Speaker 10: part of its i mean during the Crusade period there
Speaker 10: they were largely persecuting Christian sects that wouldn't be wouldn't
Speaker 10: submit to the papacy. And this sort of culminated in
Speaker 10: the rift between the Orthodox Church and the Vatican as
Speaker 10: of like twelve oh four a d. And the Fourth
Speaker 10: Crusade sacked Constantinople. So how much of a world current
Speaker 10: geopolitics and conflict has to do with the quote Judeo
Speaker 10: Catholic Evangelical Zionist NATO West versus Orthodox Christian Russia, the
Speaker 10: Global South and the bricks countries, all of which don't
Speaker 10: want to be uh, have to submit to Western that
Speaker 10: logevity over over their economies.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Well.
Speaker 10: If you guys feel free to message me, actually I'll
Speaker 10: give you My email is just my name, Carl, Carl
Speaker 10: Gallop at at gmail dot com. I'm not worried about
Speaker 10: getting too many emails. So if you guys just want
Speaker 10: to email, be directly out bind it being out there.
Speaker 2: We'll do all right, thanks Carl. Yeah, we got to
Speaker 2: get back to the messages and everything. But we appreciate that, Sarah,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say we've only read like four messages and
Speaker 3: we're over a hundred right now. We got to catch up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joel said, Yo, let's go cult right, go ahead, dear,
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts?
Speaker 16: It's actually to the comments.
Speaker 8: Since like we're we're getting to the comments, we're currently
Speaker 8: having a slavery talk. And since Timothy wanted to come
Speaker 8: on and call you out, now, I'm gonna call Timothy
Speaker 8: out for his slavery comments. So okay, come on, Timothy,
Speaker 8: let's have a chat about why you think slavery somehow
Speaker 8: is done correctly is a good thing.
Speaker 12: Oh I wish Yeah, I think it is done correctly.
Speaker 12: If it's done correctly.
Speaker 15: Now, if it's not done correctly, you're not allowed to
Speaker 15: beat your slave. You're not allowed to kill.
Speaker 12: Your slave, only use your if your slave.
Speaker 15: I go up to this master, this guy, and I'm like, hey, listen,
Speaker 15: you know I want your land that you have for sale.
Speaker 15: Well it's not gonna be for sale, it's like he
Speaker 15: owns it. So I'm gonna ask him, can I have
Speaker 15: this police a lay for sale? Can I have your
Speaker 15: wood that you have on your property. Can I buy
Speaker 15: this from you too? I don't have any money, I
Speaker 15: am pissed, poor, broke, and I got three kids, rais
Speaker 15: and whatnot. Can I please have some of your land
Speaker 15: or resources? They would be like, yeah, listen, you come
Speaker 15: under my servitude, you work on my farm, You do
Speaker 15: what I need you to do.
Speaker 12: And if it's gonna be paid off, all that's gonna
Speaker 12: be yours in your name.
Speaker 3: So you mean I'll get your servitude, not chattel slavery.
Speaker 3: There's different things we're talking about here.
Speaker 12: Absolutely, I'm not talking cattle slavery. What do you I
Speaker 12: never heard that term.
Speaker 17: I'm talking cattle slavery would be you know, okay, all right,
Speaker 17: all right, all right, let's let's break this down, because
Speaker 17: I think what you are talking about, all right, biblically speaking.
Speaker 3: The term for slave versus the term for servant is
Speaker 3: the same word in Hebrew. Okay, context would let us
Speaker 3: know what we are talking about here. Indentured servitude is
Speaker 3: similar to how a lot of Irish people came to
Speaker 3: America and they were indentured servants to the to the
Speaker 3: company that shipped them over here, and they had to
Speaker 3: work for free for so many years until they were
Speaker 3: allowed their freedom and independence in that regard, but there
Speaker 3: there was an end date in mind Chattle, slavery would
Speaker 3: be like the Transatlantic slave trade, where you would have
Speaker 3: generations of Sub Saharan African people that were born and
Speaker 3: died under the yoke of slavery. That that's that's there's
Speaker 3: a differ between indentured servitude and slavery. So I would
Speaker 3: have to disagree with you and say that slavery, I
Speaker 3: don't think there is a correct way to do that now, Uh,
Speaker 3: indentured service sude as a way of paying off your debt,
Speaker 3: there is a way to do that also, But you
Speaker 3: you you you were allowed to beat your indentured servants.
Speaker 3: You couldn't beat them to death, but you were absolutely
Speaker 3: allowed to beat them within an inch of their lives.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm also not for that. Even biblically speaking, it
Speaker 3: talks about how to treat your slaves and servants and
Speaker 3: and all these things, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's nuance to that.
Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, slavery, that that's a different that's a
Speaker 3: different thing.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 3: What else was said in the chat.
Speaker 2: We'll get to it because we got a long way
Speaker 2: to go, but I love that that one started out spicy.
Speaker 3: Okay, my god, we're already coming out here, guns a blazing. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Raven said, hey, you glorious bastards. As we were three
Speaker 2: minutes in, Pop Goes the Weasel says, oh, dang forgot
Speaker 2: y'all are on an hour behind me. My first live
Speaker 2: with y'all, but been listening to y'all for a couple
Speaker 2: of years. Hell yeah, Pop Goes, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah. MICHAELA said, Hi everyone, what up. Mikayla to
Speaker 2: be Alive said what up y'all? Mario said hello everyone,
Speaker 2: been gone for a little bit. Hope everyone is doing great.
Speaker 3: Mario.
Speaker 4: Good to see you, Bud, and.
Speaker 3: Glad to hear you doing well. By the way, brother,
Speaker 3: I know you were going through a rough patch there,
Speaker 3: but I am glad to see you're on the other
Speaker 3: side of it and uh on, you know, on the uptick.
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, as Jim Morrison said, you know he broke
Speaker 2: on through to the other side.
Speaker 4: Sir Joel posted a meme.
Speaker 2: It says when humans use DMT to visit interdimensional aliens, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like all sacred, sacred geometry and whatnot. And then
Speaker 2: it says when when interdimensional aliens use a vulnerable mind
Speaker 2: to visit humans, some people will call that demons, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I get it. Joe said, good afternoon. Oh this is
Speaker 2: Australian Joe. He has a kangaroo and an Australian flag,
Speaker 2: so it's only proper of him to tell us good afternoon.
Speaker 2: Coc cunts, Yes, I got. I love a good cunt,
Speaker 2: both figuratively and literally.
Speaker 3: Pop goes a weeking of.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that, Pop goes. Louisel said, well,
Speaker 2: now you have a residentt lesbian welcome.
Speaker 3: I love this. You know what.
Speaker 4: We are diverse, sir, you know, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3: We got a Latino who practices santaria, but he does
Speaker 3: not have a crystal ball. We have our resident furry correspondent,
Speaker 3: I see you, skunk boy, welcome. We have our resident
Speaker 3: Jewish correspondent that couldn't join us this evening because of
Speaker 3: some Jewish religious thing going on. He explained it to me,
Speaker 3: but I forgot. We got a resident trans correspondent who
Speaker 3: has been missing lately because work is a bitch. And
Speaker 3: now we have a resident lesbian correspondent. We're diverse as fuck.
Speaker 3: Up in here. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2: Don't forget about our resident Pleadian correspondent along with our
Speaker 2: resident greased up blind guy over there, my.
Speaker 3: Boy Kyle, what to do?
Speaker 9: Bro?
Speaker 3: I thought it was gonna be a greased up, naked
Speaker 3: deaf guy. But I get the joke. I get the joke.
Speaker 11: Fuck yeah, Joel h actually blind?
Speaker 3: So that works out?
Speaker 9: Are you.
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 2: I'm legally blind.
Speaker 12: Blind right now?
Speaker 11: So apparently?
Speaker 12: Hell?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well hey you can see the lights still, so good
Speaker 4: on you, brother.
Speaker 2: Uh Joel said Jonathan. I really think you should keep
Speaker 2: diving deep into the Bible and ignore the hate. Oh
Speaker 2: Timothy does not going to like that one. Remember if
Speaker 2: they don't hate, then you're doing something wrong. There was
Speaker 2: a thumbs up and the thumbs down for that one.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm not gonna do the Paul show over here.
Speaker 2: The Paul Show will be saved for meta miss. It
Speaker 2: is more of an esoteric conversation. I do understand that
Speaker 2: the majority of our listeners are of some kind of
Speaker 2: religious breed, So I am not going to start a
Speaker 2: fire where most people are just going to throw said
Speaker 2: fire back in my face.
Speaker 12: So I want to.
Speaker 3: Ask you, even if it's on metamistics bring on a
Speaker 3: pastor or a biblical scholar to also give their two cents.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I actually I plan on it.
Speaker 2: There's a there's a bunch of ex pastors that I'm
Speaker 2: that I'm planning on reaching out to people who are
Speaker 2: going to be sitting there and debunking it.
Speaker 3: I mean current serving pastors as long as well as
Speaker 3: the former pastors. You let them talk about.
Speaker 2: Here's what I'll do. What I'll do is and maybe
Speaker 2: I'll reach out to one of them. I can't imagine
Speaker 2: that they would want to even be involved in that
Speaker 2: kind of conversation. But what I can do is is
Speaker 2: I will bring somebody over such as Sir Timothy or
Speaker 2: yourself and you guys, can you know, hash it out
Speaker 2: back and forth in that.
Speaker 3: Kind of way.
Speaker 2: How about that?
Speaker 4: And it'll be a meta show.
Speaker 2: It won't be a cult show.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm down, but if I am coming there,
Speaker 3: there is a person in mind that I would love
Speaker 3: to have debate with a former pastor, a current pastor
Speaker 3: and a former pastor discussing the Paul versus Jesus thing.
Speaker 3: I think they could do a lot better of a
Speaker 3: job with it than you and I could.
Speaker 4: Have met a round table.
Speaker 5: Baby.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that one. That'll be a fun
Speaker 2: spirit animal your thoughts there.
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna sound probably the minority, but I take
Speaker 5: the Bible like one little in both both stads. You
Speaker 5: can see and everything your your synabsence at your thesis.
Speaker 5: Your whole episode did not offend me, and I take
Speaker 5: it as little handed from God.
Speaker 11: So fuck the haters think.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's the same thing with me. I believe
Speaker 3: that the Earth is round, and I take that literally,
Speaker 3: but I'm not offended when flat earthers come at me.
Speaker 2: I will tell you, Jacob, I am very offended whenever
Speaker 2: you say that the world is round. This is not
Speaker 2: a physical reality. We are a living in but a dream, sir.
Speaker 2: So I will be damned and I will be writing
Speaker 2: into your DMS.
Speaker 3: You could again. I have my own opinions on that,
Speaker 3: but like everybody's entitled to their own.
Speaker 4: If it's it's at the matrix can't.
Speaker 2: Abide for a hollow worth? Why not, you know?
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 5: Ye.
Speaker 2: Sure Dallas spiedfire, my dude. He came on metamistics not
Speaker 2: too terribly long ago. Welcome back over here, sir. It's
Speaker 2: great to see you loving the Stunner shades. But go
Speaker 2: ahead and unmute yourself. What are what are your thoughts?
Speaker 12: I can figure out. Okay, that's all you gotta do.
Speaker 18: Okay, For one thing, I gotta rise up Jacob because
Speaker 18: this is.
Speaker 12: The first time getting to talk to him.
Speaker 10: Hi.
Speaker 12: Man, I've loved you show.
Speaker 18: I've been listening to you like three four years something
Speaker 18: like that. And yeah, it's great to find with beyond
Speaker 18: another thing, Jonathan. I love you, dude, love you to pieces.
Speaker 18: I've got my own personal bone to pick with you.
Speaker 2: I knew that there was going to be a bud
Speaker 2: what you think, Nobody what you think? Nobody can just
Speaker 2: say I love you Jonathan, and then like end of sentence,
Speaker 2: it has to be I love you, but.
Speaker 4: Even my own parents.
Speaker 18: No, I'm kidding, Okay, I you know, I think we
Speaker 18: need to have an intervention here. The male and Glizzy
Speaker 18: concept is dark arts. Okay, I don't think I think
Speaker 18: you're leading people down the wrong path with the Mayo
Speaker 18: on the Glizzy.
Speaker 2: Oh I okay, yeah, yeah, he had made I I
Speaker 2: made a post a couple of days ago, and he
Speaker 2: said that Mayo does not belong on a hot dog
Speaker 2: and I said, O contrere, sir, All condiments belong on
Speaker 2: a hot dog?
Speaker 3: Eude, dude. First, first of fucking all, are we calling
Speaker 3: hot dogs glizzies? This ship sound Day's eight?
Speaker 4: Well, he was already flirt with you, so it's it's
Speaker 4: kind of like, but a dude on a hot dog?
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm I'm one of those people that can sit
Speaker 2: there with a jar of mayonnaise and just eat it.
Speaker 3: So, oh my god, you are satanic. You got the
Speaker 3: dam inside of you. Boy, that's all that sounds I have.
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: I have the uh, the divine underworld coursing through my veins.
Speaker 11: A Yankee.
Speaker 2: Ya, that's true. I've been in the South longer than
Speaker 2: I was ever up north, so I think we've already
Speaker 2: squashed that, my good sir.
Speaker 3: Genetically it sounds like it's it's peering through though.
Speaker 19: Man.
Speaker 5: At this point, you would your tnically would be what
Speaker 5: we call a damn Yankee's when a Yankee move down south?
Speaker 11: What we still love you.
Speaker 5: You still have the honorary title Southern. But that that
Speaker 5: that's not that true white people ship.
Speaker 12: Damn.
Speaker 2: Hold on, let me let me confirm your your sentiment
Speaker 2: here confirm.
Speaker 3: A damn Yankee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I just want.
Speaker 4: To see where it is.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it doesn't say it exactly what state Hellman's
Speaker 2: Mayonnaise is in. I was trying to see if it
Speaker 2: was a northern state or a southern state. But it
Speaker 2: also includes Canada and various parts of Europe, so I
Speaker 2: would say that it probably is a white.
Speaker 3: Sawda and mayonnaise was created by the French, so yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's pretty Caucasian as far as that goes.
Speaker 2: Hey, dude, I mean, look, and I like Mayo and
Speaker 2: miss me with that miracle whip bullshit.
Speaker 4: I like the real mayonnaise.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean everybody's got their own thing. I mean,
Speaker 3: even within my own household. Some of my children like mayonnaise,
Speaker 3: some of them don't. But on a hot dog.
Speaker 4: Though, dude, there's nothing that doesn't belong on a hot dog.
Speaker 4: Interesting it is it is? I mean it's.
Speaker 3: Wait, wait a fucking minute. You like Budan, don't you.
Speaker 2: I love Budan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I have to ask you an actual question,
Speaker 3: and there is only one correct answer, but I'm afraid
Speaker 3: to ask it. Jonathan, have you ever committed the sin
Speaker 3: of putting manas on a link of budhen.
Speaker 2: No, but I wouldn't see it as an inherent sin.
Speaker 2: I would say, I don't know if I would go
Speaker 2: full on dipping it straight into mayonnaise. However, one of
Speaker 2: my favorite mixtures is uh is some losing in hot
Speaker 2: sauce with some mayonnaise, and I would definitely dip a
Speaker 2: link of budhan into that.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm happy to hear that you haven't committed that
Speaker 3: sin yet, But like, we don't need that, all right,
Speaker 3: we don't need that in our lives, like.
Speaker 2: I I mean, hey, I mean some people like pineapple
Speaker 2: on pizza. Some people don't, you know, it's one of
Speaker 2: those things that I.
Speaker 3: Believe pineapple belongs on some pizzas, not all, not all. Oh,
Speaker 3: come on now, pineapple on a Hawaiian pizza.
Speaker 2: That's the shit. First of all, we created the term Hawaiian.
Speaker 2: That's not even what they fucking eat over there.
Speaker 3: No, of course not. It's it's all poi and shit
Speaker 3: and spam. But that's the reason for that is also
Speaker 3: based in racism and poverty, and that's the talk friend
Speaker 3: of the day. But it's not the point. But yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: all right, So apparently you'd be putting mayonnaise on your Glizzy.
Speaker 3: That's for hot dog? Are we just making this ship up?
Speaker 4: If it's not? It is now, sir, I will.
Speaker 2: No longer Glizzy Earth theory. I'm what you never heard
Speaker 2: of it? Glizzy Earth theory?
Speaker 3: Gay hot dog Earth theory? What are we?
Speaker 2: Where are we at right now? What you actually?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 3: It's twenty twenty five. Let's let's fucking go. Okay, why not?
Speaker 4: Jesus, that's a new one to me.
Speaker 2: But I I think that we're going to be doing
Speaker 2: a show on the Glizzy Earth theory, so be on
Speaker 2: the lookout for that one. Joel your thoughts? Does mayo
Speaker 2: belong on a Glizzy?
Speaker 3: Sir?
Speaker 4: Hell?
Speaker 14: Yeah, say the resident Kabbala practitioner in training.
Speaker 13: Mayonnaise, let's go.
Speaker 3: On a hot dog?
Speaker 2: You do it?
Speaker 13: Yeah? Wait, chips, put the chips on the hot dog everything?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 3: Where are you from though? Are you from the north?
Speaker 12: Actually?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 12: This manise consuming of me? It comes from the twenty
Speaker 12: five percent Anglo.
Speaker 13: That I am. You know, Okay, those of the mayonnaise
Speaker 13: right there now?
Speaker 3: All right, so it's in your genes, I got you.
Speaker 2: It's a hereditary thing, you know, to like mayonnaise. Although yes,
Speaker 2: I mean I was kind of I was the weird
Speaker 2: one in my family because I preferred real mayonnaise over
Speaker 2: miracle whip.
Speaker 3: I was like, that's maybe that's what it is. Maybe
Speaker 3: it's like the cilantro thing like genetically. Some people think
Speaker 3: it's the greatest seasoning that you can have, and some
Speaker 3: people think it tastes like don dish soap. That's like
Speaker 3: a genetic thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even see why people have such an
Speaker 2: issue with It's it's like, oh, whatever seasoning to.
Speaker 3: Me, and it's not all whatever. It's it's like for me,
Speaker 3: for instance, it tastes like don dish soap, right, But
Speaker 3: then there's so many people around me that they love
Speaker 3: that shit and it doesn't taste like soap to them.
Speaker 3: It is an actual thing within your genetics that make
Speaker 3: it do one thing or another. So maybe mayonnaise possibly
Speaker 3: is in that same vibe if you if your people
Speaker 3: hail from so far away from the equator, maybe you
Speaker 3: just like get down with it, and if your people
Speaker 3: hail from an area that's more close to the equator,
Speaker 3: you're not about I don't know, I'm just speculating China, China.
Speaker 2: I feel like, don't get that, Ashton, what are your
Speaker 2: thoughts there?
Speaker 9: Uh so? Uh, I wanted to touch on something that
Speaker 9: you guys are talking about like five or ten minutes
Speaker 9: ago now, but let's go. Uh. I just wanted to
Speaker 9: speak my mind on the Lizzy real quick. I started
Speaker 9: doing a spicy barbecue with Dyl Relish on dogs. Fucking
Speaker 9: I can eat like five of them, the best dogs
Speaker 9: I ever had. Man. Yeah, yeah, uh So you guys
Speaker 9: were talking about how the there are more biblical subjects
Speaker 9: on this show. We're getting some hate as far as
Speaker 9: what Jonathan believes. And last week I had extended the
Speaker 9: offer to Jacob over messages about just my take on
Speaker 9: the Book of Revelation, and I didn't really get into
Speaker 9: what I was going to say on it as far
Speaker 9: as what we were talking about, Jacob, But just the
Speaker 9: way I see it is more of an alchemical text.
Speaker 9: If you look at the Greek Apocalypsis is what it
Speaker 9: was originally called, which means literally the unveiling or the revelation,
Speaker 9: And it's more of a personal apocryphal text as opposed
Speaker 9: to a worldly apocryphal text. And so that's what I
Speaker 9: would talk about with you guys, if you ever wanted
Speaker 9: to talk about it, And maybe it is more of
Speaker 9: a meta subject than a cult subject, so I'm open
Speaker 9: to that. So let me know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're gonna probably be probably be trying
Speaker 2: to steer away from spiritual and religious things on this
Speaker 2: episode because for obvious reasons.
Speaker 9: But yeah, not tonight obviously. I'm just surmising you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that would be an interesting I would
Speaker 2: be interested in, uh in looking in that. But yeah,
Speaker 2: so God is Love said, evolution theory fails again.
Speaker 3: I agreed.
Speaker 2: Pop Goes the Weasel said, we were in quotes created
Speaker 2: in in quotes God's image, and think about junk DNA
Speaker 2: that they found is not really junk. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: That's like the the gray matter that they find in
Speaker 2: people's brains. They don't know what the fuck it's really
Speaker 2: for some people. I mean, I'm not gonna go all
Speaker 2: esoteric with it, but yeah, I think that there's a
Speaker 2: lot that is going on within our bodies that kind
Speaker 2: of would be, for a lack of a better term,
Speaker 2: are our antenna to the other side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and without that gray matter, I wonder how well
Speaker 3: your brain would function. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so Doug posted a picture of Is that
Speaker 2: supposed to be Tubby Willguire spider Man? I'm not sure,
Speaker 2: but it's as with great incests comes great responsibility.
Speaker 3: Oh god, oh, did he get caught in some shit too?
Speaker 3: I'm hearing so much about these celebrities getting caught with Don't.
Speaker 2: Tell me Andrew Garfield got caught in the incest. No, dude,
Speaker 2: that would hurt me.
Speaker 3: He's my favorite Telby Or is that Andrew?
Speaker 2: It's hard to tell anyhow. Doug also posts another meme
Speaker 2: that said today is special people noodle soup. Interesting. I
Speaker 2: was thinking about doing a whole episode here on Soil
Speaker 2: and Green here soon. I think that would be a
Speaker 2: fun deep dive, and we need to bring it back because.
Speaker 3: They've been feeding the people in China with something very similar.
Speaker 2: I think they've been feeding the people in America with
Speaker 2: something similar for quite a while as well.
Speaker 1: China.
Speaker 2: Pop Goes the Weasel said Douke walas have a soul.
Speaker 2: Jacob doesn't believe any animal has a soul.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying one hundred percent. I'm saying that I
Speaker 3: personally just I don't see a reason for it. But
Speaker 3: I am saying there is a possibility for sure. I'm
Speaker 3: leaving it in that open field.
Speaker 2: Uh, the conspiracy platypus, you're saying that he doesn't have
Speaker 2: a soul either, Go ahead, Sam Well.
Speaker 11: Depend on which X you ask.
Speaker 5: But that's besides, I'd say cats and dogs have have souls,
Speaker 5: maybe horses, But that's because we we we fucking like
Speaker 5: as we quote unquote evolved through the ages, so are they.
Speaker 11: But I do not believe a salamander has a soul.
Speaker 11: I don't. But I also know that.
Speaker 5: The Bible that the Bible says even when man shall
Speaker 5: turn away from God, every animal shall, but every animal
Speaker 5: and mountain shall bother hit him and prays onto the Lord.
Speaker 3: So it's and that's why I give it that possibility.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying one hundred percent. I'm saying it's possible
Speaker 3: that they do. I just you know, it's nothing that
Speaker 3: I'm going to like lose sleep over one way or
Speaker 3: another about, that's for sure.
Speaker 5: But I just want also, Jonathan, I love you, buddy.
Speaker 5: I love you to somebody somebody would tell you, and
Speaker 5: I'm happy it's me.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, you just made my day.
Speaker 2: There was no butt at the end of that one man. Yeah, dude, Oh,
Speaker 2: I just typed it in. We don't have to harp
Speaker 2: too hard on this one, but just typed it in
Speaker 2: on Doug, Doug go. And this is according to Bible
Speaker 2: study tools and the Times of Israel. And I asked,
Speaker 2: do animals have a soul? According to the Bible, just
Speaker 2: out of curiosity. I've never really looked into it outside
Speaker 2: of just taking other people's word for it, but says yes.
Speaker 2: According to the Bible, animals are described as having souls
Speaker 2: and genesis. The term nefesh is used both for humans
Speaker 2: and animals, indicating that they possess life and consciousness similar
Speaker 2: to humans.
Speaker 3: But that's not a soul. Life and consciousness are not
Speaker 3: a soul.
Speaker 2: Well, what it's whenever it's describing a soul whatever that
Speaker 2: nefesh is, animals also have it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's but that's not like the breath of God,
Speaker 3: which is what that was talking about. Is humans got
Speaker 3: the breath of God breathed into them, which is the soul. Right,
Speaker 3: the breath is the same term for soul or spirit.
Speaker 3: But what I am gonna say, and I've done my
Speaker 3: due diligence as far as looking into the Biblical text
Speaker 3: on this, it doesn't say one way or another. It
Speaker 3: leaves it very very gray area. Do animals have souls?
Speaker 3: Do they not? Do all dogs in fact go to heaven?
Speaker 3: Or is there you know, a judgment for dogs that
Speaker 3: were assholes and they're going to hell? It It doesn't
Speaker 3: specify one way or another. It leaves it open. It
Speaker 3: doesn't say a hard no or a hard yes. It
Speaker 3: says there's definitely possibility. It leads credence to the fact
Speaker 3: that they may, but it doesn't definitely say it for sure.
Speaker 3: That's you know, that's where I'm at with it. And again,
Speaker 3: it's not like that's not a salvation issue. So it's
Speaker 3: not something that I base like a lot of my
Speaker 3: belief on one way or another. At that point, it's
Speaker 3: just Jacob speaking on behalf of Jacob.
Speaker 2: According to Never Thirsty Ministries, it says, I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: read the whole thing, but just to go to the conclusion,
Speaker 2: it says, so God created animals with a nefesh or soul. However,
Speaker 2: there is no strong evidence that God created animals with spirits.
Speaker 2: That is where it seems to be some kind of
Speaker 2: hang up. We are told, we are never told to
Speaker 2: preach the Gospel to animals. If animals had spirits, we
Speaker 2: would expect that the Gospel should be preached to the
Speaker 2: animals in addition to humans. And summary, the human body
Speaker 2: is made of flesh and blood, which will die and
Speaker 2: return to dust. But our spirits are eternal and will
Speaker 2: live forever, will live forever, either in hell or in
Speaker 2: heaven with God.
Speaker 3: So wait, they just said that spirits will live forever,
Speaker 3: but your soul won't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's trying to find I mean, we can really
Speaker 2: go into it if you want.
Speaker 3: No, No, just based off of their conclusion, they said
Speaker 3: that they have a spirit, but not a soul, and
Speaker 3: the spirit is a thing that lives on forever, So
Speaker 3: what the fuck happens to the soul? Like these people
Speaker 3: they're trying to use this interchangeable dialogue but then showing
Speaker 3: that there's a clear difference between the two. And I'm
Speaker 3: not even saying that, I believe there's a clear difference
Speaker 3: between the two. That's their words. So I just it's okay. Again,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of different debate on this. A lot
Speaker 3: of different scholars will say one thing, and a lot
Speaker 3: of diferent scholarsis say something else. It's not like it's
Speaker 3: not a thing that we need to like fight over.
Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying, according to the Bible, Yes, Joel,
Speaker 4: your thoughts.
Speaker 12: Sir, I'm sure going to ask Jacob.
Speaker 13: That's always good question, that's already like wait on me,
Speaker 13: what's the difference based on like when you know, what's
Speaker 13: the difference between the soul and the spirit?
Speaker 3: Never, I'm not I'm not even saying that necessarily is
Speaker 3: a difference, To be completely honest with you, I will
Speaker 3: say that I guess if they're saying that animals have
Speaker 3: a spirit, right, uh, does that mean that they can
Speaker 3: be in bue with evil spirits or their spirit can
Speaker 3: be taken over by demons, which was also talked about
Speaker 3: in the Bible in multiple like multiple places. Maybe that's
Speaker 3: where they're going with that. As far as the human
Speaker 3: condition is concerned, I think that your soul is the
Speaker 3: innermost thing. I think that you know, we have body
Speaker 3: mind and soul. I think that you could use as
Speaker 3: unchangeable dialogue to say body mind and spirit. It's very possible,
Speaker 3: But I guess there is some sort of distinction between
Speaker 3: the two, well coming from because the spirit of God
Speaker 3: living within somebody does not mean that the soul of
Speaker 3: God is living within you. That's a completely different conversation
Speaker 3: from Christianity Christianity dot com.
Speaker 2: It says in the Bible, the soul is often associated
Speaker 2: with our emotions and humanity, while the spirit represents our
Speaker 2: deeper connection with God. There are distinct parts of a person,
Speaker 2: as indicated in verses like first that first Thessalonians and
Speaker 2: Hebrews uh chapter four. So okay, anyway, yeah, interesting, I
Speaker 2: will say this, like, you know, and and I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean I I would be pretty damn remissed if
Speaker 2: I would even try and to describe what the soul
Speaker 2: is compared to the spirit.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I wasn't raised in it.
Speaker 2: But I mean maybe Timothy would be able to answer
Speaker 2: that since he was raised in it. But I will
Speaker 2: say that, like if if if animals didn't have spirits,
Speaker 2: then how does animal sacrifice work, because you would have
Speaker 2: to imagine that the spirit or the soul or something
Speaker 2: like that would be sacrificed.
Speaker 4: Right, it's not solely for the blood.
Speaker 3: It's literally just for the blood. That's why the blood
Speaker 3: is used for portions of the ritual.
Speaker 2: So the organs are used, right, But people dating back
Speaker 2: forever Ago used to they would eat parts of the
Speaker 2: animal in hopes that they would literally take on that
Speaker 2: animal spirit, or they would wear animal skins to try
Speaker 2: and take on that animal spirit. I don't think that's
Speaker 2: just for the blood, unless that was just like a
Speaker 2: fun thing to say.
Speaker 3: Well, are we talking about sacrifice? Are we talking about
Speaker 3: eating it to gain its spirit or it's a strength
Speaker 3: or whatever. Hell, the Polynesians would eat the people that
Speaker 3: they killed in battle so that they could obtain their
Speaker 3: mana right. And they don't mean their soul, they meant
Speaker 3: their strength. You know what.
Speaker 2: I think this is a question for Hillary Clinton. I
Speaker 2: want to know, you know, whenever you drink somebody's adrenochrome,
Speaker 2: are you taking on their spirit or their soul? Like
Speaker 2: you hear a thirteen year old little girl crying inside
Speaker 2: of your brain whenever you drink that, you know, sweet nectar?
Speaker 3: Oh God? What the fuck?
Speaker 2: Dallisons?
Speaker 3: Your sound board is wild?
Speaker 4: Ashton your thoughts there?
Speaker 12: Uh?
Speaker 9: I So in my belief, I can't quote any sort
Speaker 9: of scripture for this, but I equate, uh, you know,
Speaker 9: consuming animals to uh martyrdom in some sense where you're
Speaker 9: not you're not ever gonna touch an animal that isn't
Speaker 9: willing to be consumed in that sense, it's not ready
Speaker 9: to go yet. What are you those sacrificial animals, they're
Speaker 9: not They're not chosen by man. But it's it's literally
Speaker 9: ordained by higher powers that that animal is the sacrifice.
Speaker 9: It's it's a martyr, not in the sense that it's
Speaker 9: conscious of it, but it's it has Uh, it doesn't
Speaker 9: have spirit, so it's not aware of it in that sense,
Speaker 9: but its soul is predestined and to be a martyr
Speaker 9: for sacrifice or for consumption and.
Speaker 4: In the grand scheme of things.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and so not all so I don't feel bad
Speaker 9: about it personally. I mean, the ones that are meant
Speaker 9: to live live and they're free, and the ones that
Speaker 9: aren't are not free, and they were destined for that.
Speaker 9: They're predetermined. We have free will, which makes us different
Speaker 9: from them.
Speaker 3: Now, I mean, I hear what you're saying, for sure,
Speaker 3: But there's a difference between killing and murdering, right, And
Speaker 3: we could talk about that on the human scale. But yeah,
Speaker 3: you're not murdering an animal. You are killing an animal.
Speaker 3: And I actually have gotten some heat for this one
Speaker 3: in the comments in the past. Couple of episodes. Some
Speaker 3: people like Jacob thinks that animals aren't as important as humans.
Speaker 3: It's so blah blah blah. As I'm wearing a leather
Speaker 3: belt and I just got done eating chicken, and earlier
Speaker 3: today I ate beef. You know when the last time
Speaker 3: I ate human was? If we're so equal? Fucking never?
Speaker 3: Why a fair enough? I don't know. I have eating
Speaker 3: the McDonald's a time or two. It's very possible I've
Speaker 3: eaten some human meat. But besides the point, right, why
Speaker 3: don't we eat human meat? If humans, then animals are
Speaker 3: so equal, except we're fucking not. We're not. Well, that
Speaker 3: one of us is at the tippy top of the
Speaker 3: food chain and the other one feeds the one at
Speaker 3: the top of the food chain.
Speaker 2: That does not make it equal. That's obviously through the
Speaker 2: lens of a human though, right, So because we're human?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, spirit animal?
Speaker 9: Oh? Can I put it? Can I say one more thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 9: I believe, at least in this lifetime. As far as
Speaker 9: animal consumption goes, one of the major lessons is we
Speaker 9: don't typically ritually sacrifice animals anymore. It's not a common
Speaker 9: practice anymore, and so what I believe is happening is
Speaker 9: factory farming. What we're supposed to see in it is
Speaker 9: we're eventually supposed to see that in some sense it
Speaker 9: is wrong, and that these animals are martyrs for some
Speaker 9: sort of cause. And once you ponder upon what that
Speaker 9: cause may be, Say, you go source your own meat
Speaker 9: out in the wild, whether it's hunting or fishing, and
Speaker 9: there's just a better feeling associated with that. It makes
Speaker 9: you feel better consuming it in that the act of
Speaker 9: actually going out and procuring it, it's a better feeling.
Speaker 9: And so it's sort of this cause underlying the act
Speaker 9: of their martyrdom, if if that makes any sense at all, No.
Speaker 3: No, I can agree with that. But to your point
Speaker 3: about how we're not ritualistically sacrificing animals anymore, we may
Speaker 3: not be in this country, but if you ever go
Speaker 3: to a store and see kosher or halal meat, they
Speaker 3: are being ritualistically slaughtered. Before they kill it, they say
Speaker 3: in the name of God, and then they do it.
Speaker 3: Any hallal meat, you can watch how Hallal butchers do
Speaker 3: their thing, and they'll say like in the name of Hala,
Speaker 3: and they'll snap its neck. That is a form of ritualistic.
Speaker 3: You might say sacrifice, you might say slaughter. I think
Speaker 3: it's six and one a hand a half dozen in
Speaker 3: the other. So this is going on to a large
Speaker 3: scale today. It's just not something that we as Americans
Speaker 3: recognize on a daily basis, but it very much is happening.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, one of these days, I'm going to
Speaker 2: get a hunting license and I will sacrifice that deer
Speaker 2: in the name of Odin.
Speaker 3: And if you sacrifice a fucking deer with a thirty
Speaker 3: odd six, I feel like we might be missing the
Speaker 3: spiritual significance. I don't know.
Speaker 9: You know I'm saying, is the deer. You didn't kill
Speaker 9: the deer. The deer chose you to kill it. That's
Speaker 9: what I'm getting at here. Yes, yes, but and you
Speaker 9: know what, from an isolated Christian perspective, as far as
Speaker 9: other faiths go, I am not meant to understand those
Speaker 9: faiths from their perspective. I won't in this lifetime, unfortunately,
Speaker 9: because I was raised in a Christian background in America,
Speaker 9: and I believe this is the perspective I'm subjected to here.
Speaker 9: Lesson I'm being taught.
Speaker 4: You have recently gone on a mushroom trip haven't you, sir.
Speaker 9: It's it's spent five or six years due damn all
Speaker 9: into meditation and start tripping. If I really were towards
Speaker 9: it at this point I heard that.
Speaker 2: Well, hey, I mean the the yogis of the monks.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's what they do. Like if you
Speaker 2: ever listen to sad gurus, somebody ask him like, hey,
Speaker 2: have you ever smoked weed? Or what are your thoughts
Speaker 2: on smoking weed? And he takes off his glasses and
Speaker 2: he goes, look at me. I'm stoned, but he's not. Really,
Speaker 2: It's just like a meditative state.
Speaker 3: I mean, but that's the thing. You could look up
Speaker 3: what these people believe and gain a different perspective. We
Speaker 3: are in the age of information right now, you know so.
Speaker 3: I mean, although you were raised a certain way, it
Speaker 3: doesn't take much to do a quick you know, YouTube
Speaker 3: guide and see the practices and see the sacrifices of
Speaker 3: other cultures to try to gain some perspective. And maybe
Speaker 3: you're right, maybe because of our nuanced perspectives of how
Speaker 3: we were brought up, will never fully grasp it. But
Speaker 3: I mean, to see why the Muslims believe they have
Speaker 3: to do this with their meat why they have to
Speaker 3: let all damn near all the blood drain out before
Speaker 3: they eat it. Why do the Jews do something similar?
Speaker 3: They keep some but not they drain most of the
Speaker 3: blood out. You know, different cultures, different tribes, they all
Speaker 3: have their own way of doing things. And as soon
Speaker 3: as the temple is rebuilt, they will be ritualistically sacrificing
Speaker 3: animals again in Israel. So, I mean, there's there's things
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 2: Someone suggests that that red heifer was already sacrificed, you know,
Speaker 2: it wasn't just and.
Speaker 3: That was done by Messionic Jews, the ones that worship Jesus.
Speaker 3: That's crazy, It's pretty wild.
Speaker 15: Tim Go ahead, sir, Hey, I just wanted to clarify that.
Speaker 15: You know, I'm not trying to pick a fight with
Speaker 15: you or anything.
Speaker 12: Jonathan.
Speaker 15: I do listen to everything you say, and I'm not
Speaker 15: trying to say just because you ain't got a background
Speaker 15: in it, you're not allowed to talk.
Speaker 20: Secondly, I was wanting to mention about Epstein and Trump
Speaker 20: not releasing the files. I was talking to some old
Speaker 20: guy that I was working with at on my job,
Speaker 20: and he was telling me about you know, I was
Speaker 20: betting to him about how Trump isn't releasing the Epstein files.
Speaker 15: And I'm not a big fan of Trump anymore, and
Speaker 15: he'd pointing out a good point to me. He was like, well,
Speaker 15: why would he, why would he release him? He's using
Speaker 15: them the black all the Democrats and Republicans. He's using
Speaker 15: it to get his way. And it's like in word
Speaker 15: he's talking about dreamed the swamp. In order to drain
Speaker 15: the swamp, you got to put your hands in it
Speaker 15: and clean it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So we don't necessarily know that he is using it
Speaker 2: as blackmail, you know, like I in a perfect world,
Speaker 2: we would love to believe that. But ultimately, and this
Speaker 2: is you know, Jacob brings it up all the time
Speaker 2: that there's there definitely is some kind of Trump derangement syndrome.
Speaker 2: On both sides. There are people that cannot stand even
Speaker 2: the thought of him, and then there are other people
Speaker 2: that are like, well, if he did this bad thing,
Speaker 2: then it was for a good reason, always, every single time.
Speaker 2: And and I don't know, I mean, I don't think
Speaker 2: that I give my parents that level of leniency, let
Speaker 2: alone somebody run of the country that I've never met.
Speaker 2: So you know, I mean, I think that a lot
Speaker 2: of people like to treat certain presidents almost as if
Speaker 2: like they're faithful to them in some kind of way,
Speaker 2: And that's not the right way to go about it either.
Speaker 2: I mean, we need to be holding everybody accountable. And
Speaker 2: and look if he turns around one day and he
Speaker 2: just so happens to release the APSO files, or or
Speaker 2: maybe some of those people are blackmailed on there, like
Speaker 2: you know, we'll we'll, we'll say damn, all right, I
Speaker 2: guess I was wrong. I guess there was a plan
Speaker 2: all along. You know, nothing can stop what is coming
Speaker 2: that whole shit. Maybe QAnon is right, but we don't know.
Speaker 2: But you know, they've been talking about it for a
Speaker 2: fucking long time. And then whenever the guy gets elected,
Speaker 2: he says, you guys are still talking about those files.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, Bud, I mean, you're not just gonna
Speaker 2: forget about it.
Speaker 3: So I'm still of the belief that he's on them
Speaker 3: and that's why he's not releasing them. Can they even
Speaker 3: get that's that's understood that the FBI had their own
Speaker 3: team that went through the files and redacted anything that
Speaker 3: had Trump's name associated with it, and cash Woutel even
Speaker 3: acknowledged that. So if that's a true statement, why would
Speaker 3: they need to do that if there was no chance
Speaker 3: that Trump had anything to you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's for the record too. I just want to say this.
Speaker 2: I find it astonishing that there are all there are
Speaker 2: democrats that are coming out in droves release the Epstein files.
Speaker 4: Trump is high the Epstein files.
Speaker 2: Where were you whenever fucking Biden was in office for
Speaker 2: the past four years? Where was that energy? Then? Why
Speaker 2: do you why are you? You're not holding your own accountable?
Speaker 2: This is what I'm talking about. It's the level of
Speaker 2: hypocrisy is It is mind blowing to me, Like hold
Speaker 2: people accountable, Like, yes, I I like the whole the
Speaker 2: old adage of blue no matter who a red till
Speaker 2: I'm dead, dude. That that's cult like mentality, Like there
Speaker 2: is no other way around it. That is cult mentality
Speaker 2: very much.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 4: God is love. What are your thoughts there?
Speaker 3: Some lady made a video that Sam Triple has been
Speaker 3: talking about.
Speaker 12: She had a good point. Her theory was that it's.
Speaker 3: You know, like, it's not so much the politicians, it's
Speaker 3: the heads of all the corporations and CEOs that would
Speaker 3: die the stock.
Speaker 12: Market into panic and uh.
Speaker 5: You know, crash the dow and crash the economy if
Speaker 5: they released the list.
Speaker 12: I think that holds some water for sure, sure.
Speaker 2: But at that point, yeah, I mean I agree with that.
Speaker 2: And unfortunately, you know, there are a lot of big
Speaker 2: names that are probably on this list. There's been some
Speaker 2: of them, some of the lists or some parts of
Speaker 2: the list has been leaked over the years. Allegedly. There's
Speaker 2: no way of being able to confirm or deny that.
Speaker 2: But at that point, that is almost like holding the
Speaker 2: citizens of the United States in contempt of the fucking
Speaker 2: blackmail that they're being blackmailed for. You know, if you
Speaker 2: really look at it like that, it's like these people
Speaker 2: who are in control are being blackmailed, and as a result,
Speaker 2: we're also being blackmailed too by saying, you know what,
Speaker 2: maybe they shouldn't release it because then the economy falls.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm sorry, you know.
Speaker 2: If you're if you're fucking if your house of cards
Speaker 2: is built on a stack of shit, it's doomed to
Speaker 2: fall at one point.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I think a pretty decent and I don't know
Speaker 3: this for a fact. This is completely just my own
Speaker 3: perspective here, if you look at how many CEOs from
Speaker 3: major companies have stepped down, and yeah, during COVID, so
Speaker 3: many of them were stepping down. Were they stepping down
Speaker 3: because of COVID or were they stepping down because they
Speaker 3: realized that, Okay, shit's gonna hit the fan eventually, and
Speaker 3: I gotta find a way to make my exit and
Speaker 3: just go off the grid somewhere. There was hundreds of
Speaker 3: billionaires created during COVID, and there was I mean we
Speaker 3: even did episode and it was like five hundred CEOs
Speaker 3: from major, major companies. They were all stepping down insequential order,
Speaker 3: within weeks of each other. They said it was for
Speaker 3: this reason. They said it was for that reason. I'm
Speaker 3: with you, got his love. I am of the belief
Speaker 3: that the majority of the Epstein list involved corporate figureheads.
Speaker 3: And yes, I'm sure politicians are on there as well.
Speaker 3: I'm sure some actors and maybe even some One of
Speaker 3: the congressional hearings where Cash Pttel had to go on
Speaker 3: and say that there's nothing to release. One of the
Speaker 3: homies on the on the panel basically had a list
Speaker 3: of twenty names. He said, there was this any politicians,
Speaker 3: this many professional athletes, one magician, and this many actors
Speaker 3: that were on the list. Do you confirm or deny this? Well,
Speaker 3: I'm not familiar with that list, so I don't know it.
Speaker 3: Cash did his whole crawl fishing things he does. Beside
Speaker 3: the point, I'm sure that it's not just politicians, and
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's not just heads of foreign states or
Speaker 3: any of these things. I think that the list we're
Speaker 3: talking about, the list right, has been accumulated for so long.
Speaker 3: And keep in mind, Epstein was a business guy. He
Speaker 3: was the money laundering guy. And yeah, there's politicians that
Speaker 3: need money laundered, and there's politicians that need some blackmail
Speaker 3: done on them. For Mussad, for CIA, for name your
Speaker 3: intelligence agency. I think that was going on one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: But I feel like the level of tentacles of this
Speaker 3: particular octopus was sticking their appendages into figuratively, of course,
Speaker 3: because literally is discussing. I think that it goes way
Speaker 3: way further and way way deeper than what people are
Speaker 3: willing to really grasp. Gonna be honest with you, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think so.
Speaker 4: And I mean, and and we've said it before, Epstein
Speaker 4: is just one of them.
Speaker 3: I mean there's.
Speaker 4: Probably so many others.
Speaker 2: Epstein very well could have just been a small fish
Speaker 2: in that entire thing. And I mean, look, our our
Speaker 2: our dollar is backed by debt, which is less than nothing.
Speaker 2: Why would our country be backed by anything less as
Speaker 2: far as the people that are running it.
Speaker 3: I put it like I put Epstein as like to
Speaker 3: give it to hunting terms right for any of the good,
Speaker 3: uh the good white tail hunters out there.
Speaker 2: That was a solid eight point all right.
Speaker 3: He wanted no button buck, He want no little, no
Speaker 3: little fish in that pond. I means he want no
Speaker 3: little kill. He that was a solid kill. You could
Speaker 3: absolutely that, you could be you could be proud of
Speaker 3: that one. But there's also sixteen pointers out there, bro,
Speaker 3: there's there is these monsters in them woods that you
Speaker 3: know are out there. But no, and a point is
Speaker 3: nothing to be shy about Epstein in the in the
Speaker 3: grand scheme of things like, No, that was a big hit.
Speaker 2: That was that was a solid hit.
Speaker 3: He was absolutely the plug for a lot of people,
Speaker 3: not saying he was the biggest by any means, but
Speaker 3: he won't a small fish in to pick big pond
Speaker 3: by any means.
Speaker 2: I mean, And it also but it gets the ball
Speaker 2: rolling as far as people's understanding of this is real shit.
Speaker 2: It's not just conspiratorial talk. People have been doing this
Speaker 2: for Black Meil probably since the beginning of time.
Speaker 3: But like this the Sound of Freedom movie. Remember we
Speaker 3: went and saw that in theaters.
Speaker 4: Great movie.
Speaker 3: If that movie would have came out without Epstein and
Speaker 3: that whole island being the lid being blown off of
Speaker 3: it and people not not knowing that that is a
Speaker 3: true story, the Sound of Freedom movie would have been
Speaker 3: seen as some sort of crazy fantasy realm of that's
Speaker 3: not real, that's not really happening, this is made up
Speaker 3: for TV. Epstein happened. The movie comes out and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, like people are like, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: there's more than one island. This is happening all over
Speaker 3: the world. And it's like, yes, now you're fucking getting it.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the war, one hundred percent spirit animal, go ahead, sir.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So the Epstein files I found kind of very suspicious
Speaker 5: how Trump it was associated to it. Pus then publicly
Speaker 5: he wanted he threw Epstein out and everything. But Gislaine
Speaker 5: or Gislaine or whatever the fuck you want to call
Speaker 5: the bitch, his name how her dad was literally a
Speaker 5: masade agent in Britain, owned a news telling network and
Speaker 5: he gets thrown, he gets bound Gagnant throw the fuck
Speaker 5: off of his yacht and she got pushed put because
Speaker 5: she snitched or whatever.
Speaker 11: Uh she but she did.
Speaker 5: I find it also how she said Trump didn't do anything,
Speaker 5: and so did the the women that came forward.
Speaker 11: They even said Trump didn't do it. But I just
Speaker 11: find it suspicious.
Speaker 5: If he didn't do it, why did he take his
Speaker 5: name that was quote unquote only on the flight log
Speaker 5: or whatever?
Speaker 11: Why like he transparent?
Speaker 2: And I think that it's it's pretty interesting to say that, well,
Speaker 2: the Democrats they they skewed the list, so we can't
Speaker 2: release it. It's like, I don't know, I feel like
Speaker 2: if they skewed the list, they would probably released said
Speaker 2: skewed list. Am I right in thinking that, Like, why
Speaker 2: would you go and edit anything and then not release it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you would have edited it to make sure
Speaker 3: that no Democrat names are on there and it was
Speaker 3: only Republicans, fucking release that shit now and then boom,
Speaker 3: y'all win every election like that would have made more
Speaker 3: sense to me. And to that same point, if the
Speaker 3: Republicans were to do that right now and remove all
Speaker 3: Republican names off of that list or anybody affiliated with
Speaker 3: their lobbyist groups or whatever, and only Democrats are gonna
Speaker 3: be the ones to take the fall for it. That
Speaker 3: would be the move. But again, I feel like this
Speaker 3: list is so vast and goes for so many years,
Speaker 3: and so many different administrations and so many different people
Speaker 3: were associated. There's no way to redact the list well
Speaker 3: enough to play one side or the other. Everything's fucked.
Speaker 5: Also, I would just like to add in talking about
Speaker 5: Cash Betail, one of two things is going on with
Speaker 5: that motherfucker. Either he loves that boog of sugar and
Speaker 5: his ayes a fucking damn you pop and Isai because
Speaker 5: he's doing so much coke, or that motherfucker's mother was
Speaker 5: buggsy from Bedtown's stories.
Speaker 3: Dude, you could. You could look at him in podcasts
Speaker 3: just a couple of years ago. He looked relatively normal.
Speaker 3: Only when he got his position in the FBI does
Speaker 3: his eyes look like they're constantly about to fall out
Speaker 3: of his skull.
Speaker 11: Motherfucker's trying to play pool using his asses keyballs.
Speaker 4: Jesus, Yeah, it's uh, it is strange.
Speaker 2: But speaking of a list, we're gonna get to one
Speaker 2: with less rapes on it. Joe says, uh, hey, love
Speaker 2: my koalas, but up to ninety percent chlamydia rates have
Speaker 2: the drunkest of my mates staying away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that'll Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If I
Speaker 3: would reincarnate as a koala, I must have done some
Speaker 3: very fucked up things to get there. But yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 2: Spirit Dwald said, I I drew a rain turtle and
Speaker 2: it rained heavy twenty minutes later.
Speaker 3: Ah, watch to the rain turtle.
Speaker 2: Watch those forces you're calling upon, Samuel, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: Luke said, no, no, no, no, no, you eternal God does
Speaker 2: in fact make it rain.
Speaker 3: That is a scientific fact.
Speaker 4: Thou shall put no gods before me, Sir.
Speaker 5: I agree, but I didn't want to be on a
Speaker 5: fucking move me shingling a house at one hundred and
Speaker 5: ten degrees.
Speaker 11: Fuck that.
Speaker 2: Look, if you wanted to rain, you called Jesus. Okay,
Speaker 2: Luke said, sorry.
Speaker 21: Uh.
Speaker 2: Luke said, by the way, for anyone interested, I made
Speaker 2: a more in depth explanation of how time works, and
Speaker 2: that went down a fun little rabbit hole. The furry said,
Speaker 2: ye eat my friends.
Speaker 12: What's up?
Speaker 2: Scump Raven said, Hey man, everybody's happy to see him.
Speaker 2: God is love, said, God takes stories, et cetera, says
Speaker 2: watch this and physically fulfills them. In my opinion, and
Speaker 2: the stories et cetera in the Bible are true on
Speaker 2: all levels, physically, metaphorically and metaphysically.
Speaker 4: That how the all powerful God works.
Speaker 2: He's smart.
Speaker 4: I'm with that interesting line of thought.
Speaker 2: Uh, let's see. Ashton said, bro the synchronicity. You guys
Speaker 2: are reading my thoughts the second I joined.
Speaker 3: It'd be like that sometimes due it do.
Speaker 2: This world's a matrix. That's just how it works, oh,
Speaker 2: Spirit animals said, because they're actually believe it or not.
Speaker 2: There were comments in Spotify that we're asking, you know, Sam,
Speaker 2: what did you name your Pikachuu? You left everybody kind
Speaker 2: of hanging there. So as spirit Animal said, update, I
Speaker 2: caught a male Pikachu, and after I caught a female.
Speaker 2: Can y'all help me with the names by any chance?
Speaker 2: What did you name the first one?
Speaker 9: Sir?
Speaker 5: So the female still as of yet, is not named.
Speaker 5: I have it in the storage system right now. I
Speaker 5: just named the male. I named him thor I.
Speaker 2: Like it nice.
Speaker 3: Well, then hold on, who was Thor's wife per the
Speaker 3: per the tradition. I'm a google that right now. I
Speaker 3: feel like that should be there.
Speaker 5: Even probably Lady Sif and her golden hair is actually
Speaker 5: a wig because Loki shaved her head because he was
Speaker 5: a douchebag.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's see.
Speaker 2: Some people just said s I f oh god, uh
Speaker 2: that Jada Pinkett.
Speaker 3: Look, you know, so you got Thor and Siff. That
Speaker 3: could be your uh your Pikachu names.
Speaker 2: Okay, sweet, that's dope. Thanks, Yeah, Luke said, oh yeah, Jacob,
Speaker 2: how did you like the spinner compared to my quarter
Speaker 2: ionic not.
Speaker 3: The spin or spine or compared to the Oh that's Luke.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, okay, dude, I gotta tell you, Luke,
Speaker 3: you are fucking with physics and math that I honestly
Speaker 3: cannot touch. I try my hardest to keep up with you,
Speaker 3: and I try to make it to comparisons for the
Speaker 3: laymans of us, the the the basic average joes as
Speaker 3: far as the world of this level of math is concerned. Dude,
Speaker 3: you lose me so fast and I have to go
Speaker 3: back and re listen. I will say that your graphics
Speaker 3: have gotten so much better as time has progressed, and
Speaker 3: you're doing that, I know, to make it more like
Speaker 3: a like a teaching aide, to try to convey the
Speaker 3: message better. And I think that it is doing a
Speaker 3: fair job of that. It's every time you work on
Speaker 3: it and you come up with some new things to
Speaker 3: add on to it. You just come on to the
Speaker 3: show and we will just go on it. It's mind
Speaker 3: blowing when you do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just gonna let you talk and don't ask
Speaker 2: our opinion because it's just going to be yes. So right. Yeah, honestly, Like,
Speaker 2: the highest level of math that I took in high
Speaker 2: school was algebra two. Anything past that, I don't. I
Speaker 2: never took trigonometry. I sucked in biology and chemistry and
Speaker 2: all that other geometry is sucked in. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: do stand.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Tony said, I for one really liked the Nepheloon episode,
Speaker 2: and Mario said same here for.
Speaker 11: Sure, thank you, no doubt, no doubt I tried.
Speaker 2: Ashton said, I don't take the Bible literally, but that
Speaker 2: makes it no less real. Okay, God is Love said,
Speaker 2: did you give any thought to having Gary Wayne on?
Speaker 2: You know, I've reached out to Gary Wayne before and
Speaker 2: we've never got a response. So if you have maybe
Speaker 2: an email that I could reach out to him, that
Speaker 2: would be great. I reached out to him on Instagram
Speaker 2: and I haven't gotten a response from yet.
Speaker 4: So I mean, he's probably like us.
Speaker 2: He probably gets a shitload of Instagram messages and you know,
Speaker 2: too many to come back to. So I'm sure that
Speaker 2: there is another way to get a hold of him.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna try and dig a little deeper because
Speaker 2: he I really do like listening to people like that, like,
Speaker 2: and I'm not staunch in my beliefs. My beliefs are
Speaker 2: ever evolving, you know, I could be convinced otherwise. It's
Speaker 2: just looking at it from you know, a layman's view.
Speaker 2: That's how I took it. Spirit Animal, go ahead, sir.
Speaker 5: Quick update. Has anyone heard of anything from Pickle? And
Speaker 5: if not, was he the only motherfucker here that got raped?
Speaker 2: Dude?
Speaker 4: He might have gotten raptured now that I think about.
Speaker 3: It, Oh, is that what happened? The almighty Pickle was
Speaker 3: the only righteous one among us?
Speaker 2: What does that say about the rest of you? You know,
Speaker 2: I mean I've already accepted that I'm not going to
Speaker 2: be raptured.
Speaker 3: As Wane a k A young weezy once said, I'm
Speaker 3: a sinner. It's probably gonna sina again. Love forgive me.
Speaker 2: Somebody set this man a record dealing some Creed Jacob.
Speaker 4: Oh, God, don't don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm six feet from the yege and nothing. I can't
Speaker 3: do it good, but I'll tell you what. If I
Speaker 3: get drunk, I can do a really good pearl jam
Speaker 3: only using vowel noises. It's pretty awesome.
Speaker 4: I need, I need you.
Speaker 11: To send that to me as ring tone. My dude, that's.
Speaker 21: Oh.
Speaker 3: I love I love Creed God. I love Creed.
Speaker 4: It is solid.
Speaker 5: You know they woke up and became Altibug and one
Speaker 5: of their best songs ever was actually a metal lingis
Speaker 5: that's been used by age.
Speaker 3: I do fox with ultra bridge too.
Speaker 4: Yes, indeed solid God is love Your thoughts, sir.
Speaker 12: Anybody heard from a Honey Badgery.
Speaker 4: I hear he doesn't give a shit.
Speaker 3: I heard from him a couple of weeks ago. As
Speaker 3: a matter of fact, when I go to wait, wait,
Speaker 3: I'm thinking Honey Badger lived in Texas, correct and in Houston.
Speaker 3: I think, okay, and that's not who I'm thinking, I'm
Speaker 3: I'm meeting up with somebody in Philly. I thought that
Speaker 3: was Honey Badger. I got that mixed up.
Speaker 2: She asked if I want to go rip some lip
Speaker 2: with him and I The last couple of weeks I
Speaker 2: was in Texas, it was like balls to the wall
Speaker 2: every day. I didn't even have time to do much
Speaker 2: of anything that I wanted.
Speaker 3: Honey Badger, if you're listening to this right now, please
Speaker 3: dm me on Patreon and let me know that you're alive.
Speaker 3: Give me a fucking sip. Rap there, devil. But anyway, nice.
Speaker 2: Spirit animals said. The aviators are, in my opinion, just
Speaker 2: dripped nasty. But then again, one one of my favorite
Speaker 2: movies is Top Gun, mostly because I watched it with
Speaker 2: my papa once a week as a kid. That and
Speaker 2: saving Private Ryan and we were soldiers, and The Patriot
Speaker 2: was a movie marathon one week a month as a kid.
Speaker 4: That's a solid lineup of movies.
Speaker 3: It is speaking up.
Speaker 5: It explains, and it explained so much about my mentality.
Speaker 3: So talking about Top Gun makes you think Tom Cruise
Speaker 3: for obvious reasons, and his uh, his affiliation with the
Speaker 3: search of Church of Scientology. Sobody does anybody remember the
Speaker 3: Braille skateboarding channel. It was a it was a YouTube channel,
Speaker 3: and basically it was like you send it, we skated,
Speaker 3: and you have people send in like skateboards made out
Speaker 3: of crazy materials and uh some of them were like
Speaker 3: four inches wide and they were like metal rebar and
Speaker 3: they would like try to put trucks on it and
Speaker 3: skate it and things like that. Long story short, they
Speaker 3: got a massive following. They were the number one skateboarding
Speaker 3: channel on YouTube for a good while. Come to find out,
Speaker 3: the leader of that group funneled all, not like all
Speaker 3: of the company's money to the Church of Scientology and
Speaker 3: then closed down the channel. He is currently the leader
Speaker 3: of the church. He spent more money than Tom Cruise
Speaker 3: and according to the Church of Scientology, homeboy can levitate
Speaker 3: now and do all these things. He was supposed to
Speaker 3: be just a skateboard punk and that was supposed to
Speaker 3: be what it was, and it was good content. I
Speaker 3: used to love watching this content, but uh yeah, apparently
Speaker 3: he's on some next level Scientology things at this time,
Speaker 3: and he funneled all of his company's money, all of
Speaker 3: that YouTube channel's money, to the Church of Scientology. I
Speaker 3: also didn't know that Church of Scientology owned Clearwater, Florida.
Speaker 3: The city of Clearwater, Uh, pretty much most completely owned. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's right, that's where the Yeah, I'm not saying that
Speaker 3: the church was affiliated, but I'm also not not saying
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: All hell l Ron Huybard gross Ashton said, also look
Speaker 2: at the direct translations of the Hebrew, Greek, Latin, Aramaic
Speaker 2: to make sure the meaning you give the words hold true,
Speaker 2: testing the spirit, and also says that Chatchabt is usually
Speaker 2: pretty good if you understand the premise of how language
Speaker 2: works and changes across time, even if you don't speak
Speaker 2: those languages. Yeah, I mean, I would say that Chatchabt
Speaker 2: is pretty decent at converting languages. It's it's never gonna
Speaker 2: be one hundred percent, because I think that there's some
Speaker 2: phrases and some words that just don't translate. But for
Speaker 2: the most part, it's it's pretty solid. I've used it to,
Speaker 2: you know, holla at some Spanish shoddyes.
Speaker 9: For just a moment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure.
Speaker 9: Uh so it's not good as a literal translator, like
Speaker 9: I've caught it in the act of being co platly
Speaker 9: wrong with Latin and.
Speaker 3: Which I think you would have pretty well down packed
Speaker 3: more than language.
Speaker 9: It's a language model, so under stands the premise of
Speaker 9: how it works. And so if you use it in
Speaker 9: that sense as a tool, not so much as a
Speaker 9: direct translator, it's pretty good. Yeah, like if if you
Speaker 9: don't actually know the language, you could just get lost
Speaker 9: in translation. But you can get a general consensus from it.
Speaker 9: It's not perfect by any means.
Speaker 3: Yeah, use it as a tool, not as a source.
Speaker 2: One percent, Yes, one hundred percent. White Boy Wizard said,
Speaker 2: good evening, fan fam. What up, Honkies, so Cracker love
Speaker 2: me a good honky uh. Tony said, what do nephlom
Speaker 2: have to do with sinfulness or drugs? Nephlom were just
Speaker 2: stories about heroes like Hercules and Perseus, which were popular
Speaker 2: at the time. Tony said it.
Speaker 4: I didn't, I didn't say it.
Speaker 3: No, no, and I mean Tony got down with that
Speaker 3: episode again. Some people take it to be a metaphors,
Speaker 3: some people take it to be literal. You know, I
Speaker 3: get it.
Speaker 4: Dallas said, I'm going to step out for.
Speaker 2: Okay, step off, He's back. Mm pop goes the Weasel said,
Speaker 2: I absolutely hate when you use the chicken soup for
Speaker 2: the soul that that company is a scam on across
Speaker 2: the board the CEO who also owned red Box, how
Speaker 2: about that, LP, Well, I think red Box still around.
Speaker 3: No, dude, they shut down as a matter of fact,
Speaker 3: just so everybody knows, you can go and grab red
Speaker 3: Boxes from their location right now and just take them.
Speaker 3: There's literally nothing stopping you from doing this. I will say,
Speaker 3: some of them that are like hardline wired up, you
Speaker 3: may need to like actually go in and do something
Speaker 3: and like. But if you see a red Box outside
Speaker 3: of your local CBS or Walgreens or wherever you see one,
Speaker 3: the company has been shut down. There is no one
Speaker 3: coming and refilling these things. They do not work anymore.
Speaker 3: And some of them still have some decent movies in them,
Speaker 3: and shit, you can just take them. The Dollar General
Speaker 3: that has it outside is not about to call the
Speaker 3: cops and say someone's stealing this red Box because no
Speaker 3: one owns that machine anymore.
Speaker 2: But who fucking watches DVDs anymore?
Speaker 3: Though it's not the point. You could just say you
Speaker 3: could have that and get three of them and drop
Speaker 3: them off in your buddy's driveway as a prank. There's
Speaker 3: literally nothing stopping you from doing this.
Speaker 9: Huh.
Speaker 2: Good point also said, oh he was so dishonest. Uh,
Speaker 2: did you want to go ahead and just say it there? Pop?
Speaker 2: I just call you Pop.
Speaker 21: Guy's name is Bill Juhanna. He stole the tax money
Speaker 21: that was supposed to go to the I R s.
Speaker 21: He stole their wages, He stole their four or one
Speaker 21: K money that was supposed to go into their four
Speaker 21: or one K. He stole uh, what do you call it?
Speaker 21: Child support money that ordered child support to be taken
Speaker 21: out of somebody's check and go to the mom's or whatever.
Speaker 9: He stole that too.
Speaker 21: He stole all of the help benefit money, all of
Speaker 21: it and put it in his pocket so much so
Speaker 21: that none of us knew we didn't have health insurance
Speaker 21: or almost a year you worked for him, No, my
Speaker 21: wife did. My wife was with My wife was with Red.
Speaker 9: Box forever thirteen years.
Speaker 21: And he purchased the company I think three years prior.
Speaker 21: And what he would do is he would go out
Speaker 21: and actually pull loans and pay these mysterious consulting fees
Speaker 21: which were sub companies of his company, and pay himself
Speaker 21: and his wife. And I mean he tanked it. So
Speaker 21: that's why Redbox is no longer around, you know, and
Speaker 21: they probably still would be around DVDs or Wayward Son,
Speaker 21: but you know, no me.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but yeah, as you.
Speaker 21: Said, you can go and just if you want a
Speaker 21: Red Box man and want that memorability, you could have it.
Speaker 21: Nobody owns it. It's sitting there. They'll even tell you
Speaker 21: please take it away, get rid of it. We can't
Speaker 21: do anything with it.
Speaker 3: So wait a man. Chicken Soup for the Soul the
Speaker 3: book itself. For the record, whenever we use that, I'm
Speaker 3: not using it as a book title. I mean it
Speaker 3: for like saying something to make you feel good on
Speaker 3: a spiritual level. A lot of these people are using,
Speaker 3: you know, certain biblical quotes and certain spiritual beliefs as
Speaker 3: a sort of chicken suit for the soul. I don't
Speaker 3: actually mean the book that was titled Chicken Soup for
Speaker 3: the Soul, because I actually kind of forget that that's
Speaker 3: our thing half the time. So apologies of hearing that
Speaker 3: is a bit triggering for you. I didn't realize that
Speaker 3: there was this level of a backstory behind the author
Speaker 3: of that book.
Speaker 4: But almost like, yeah, it.
Speaker 21: Is thought awful, man, and it's there's more to it.
Speaker 21: That's just the down dirty that I can give you.
Speaker 21: Right now. There's lawsuits flying left and right.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's fact.
Speaker 21: It's when I said, I've never seen the level of
Speaker 21: corruption from one individual.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, I can't say that I'm necessarily shocked by
Speaker 2: that kind of thing though. You see that kind of shit,
Speaker 2: especially like you know, it's people that would read that.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it helps some people, maybe it didn't.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I never read it myself, but yeah,
Speaker 2: to see that that person was a scammer, you know,
Speaker 2: it's it is quite easy to dupe those who believe
Speaker 2: in what you're writing about, like unfortunately it is. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, but Mario said, ninety nine point nine nine
Speaker 2: percent of the world doesn't believe in my faith. The
Speaker 2: religion is Euroba aka Santaia. I'll still listen to everyone,
Speaker 2: and we'll be open minded to people's differences, for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that for sure.
Speaker 2: Tony said, is this the documentary hypothesis because it sounds
Speaker 2: like it and I'm a fan of it. Oh in
Speaker 2: oh he uh yeah. That guy left, huh.
Speaker 3: Yeah he did, which we're gonna have him on the show.
Speaker 3: We we simply must The dude has way too many
Speaker 3: things going on. It has so much of a backstory.
Speaker 3: We got to get him back on at a later time.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, and he was, Man, I wish that
Speaker 2: I could talk for that long, like intelligently, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 3: That guy had a motor that comes with age and wisdom,
Speaker 3: my boy. But also I want to see if there's
Speaker 3: a way for me to DM him if he can't
Speaker 3: figure out how to like send us a message on
Speaker 3: your Hatreon, I'm gonna see what I could do. Or
Speaker 3: I might have to listen back to this episode and
Speaker 3: get that email.
Speaker 2: So well, we'll figure it out for sure. I think
Speaker 2: it was just just his name at Gmail. Yeah, Spirit Animal,
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 3: Sir Bong withops for Dale's gentlemen. Dale.
Speaker 4: Oh, you need to throw a EE in there, Jacob.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm sorry I missed my.
Speaker 2: Mark Wow Center Tony. Tony said, they are they are
Speaker 2: based on oral tradition. They had to be written down.
Speaker 2: Babylonian exile was five eighty seven to four to sixty
Speaker 2: BC or so. Babylonian tal mood is from one hundred
Speaker 2: to five hundred a d or so, totally different. Oh okay, interesting, Uh,
Speaker 2: God his Love said, Oh, this is going to be
Speaker 2: all about that conversation, because that was it was going
Speaker 2: on for a good twenty minute.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're getting back into the whole uh, into the
Speaker 3: whole sin and debt thing. I guess we're going there.
Speaker 2: And why See it's so it is written so we
Speaker 2: will read God said, or God God said, God is
Speaker 2: Love said, with the debt forgiveness. Once again, it is
Speaker 2: most likely both okay Okay also said I don't see
Speaker 2: how anyone in caps can say that the Bible is
Speaker 2: all allegorical when so many stories have been historically proven
Speaker 2: to have happened, not the least of which is the
Speaker 2: life and death of Jesus. I'm not even entering my
Speaker 2: two cents in there.
Speaker 3: I mean there's some to be said there though, for sure,
Speaker 3: Like I mean, even secular sources will speak about the
Speaker 3: life and death and resurrection of Jesus. Non biblical sources
Speaker 3: talk about him walking the earth after he was killed publicly,
Speaker 3: So I mean there's yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Uh, Tim said preach It's what led me to
Speaker 2: Coec when I was doing research on the Pyramids. Spirit
Speaker 2: animals said, I I think I might be the minority
Speaker 2: saying I think is all it's all literal, the Old
Speaker 2: Testament and the New Testament especially.
Speaker 3: I mean, no, you're not in the minority, by the way, Sam,
Speaker 3: I think most like I'm not even saying like fifty
Speaker 3: one percent. I would argue probably eighty five to ninety
Speaker 3: percent of Christians believe the Old Testament word for word.
Speaker 3: Now that number might be shifting as time progresses and
Speaker 3: more people are using science to back certain things. But
Speaker 3: I don't think that you're a part of the minority
Speaker 3: on that one by any means.
Speaker 5: Oh, that you could say that science is the reasoning,
Speaker 5: is the understanding of how God did it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean a lot of people use science
Speaker 3: as to explain the reason as to the how, and
Speaker 3: not the reason as to the why. Right, religion explains
Speaker 3: the why. Science explains the how. A lot of people
Speaker 3: see things that way. A lot of people see that
Speaker 3: one is a replacement for the other. I mean, that's
Speaker 3: that's just kind of the human condition.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, the human conditioning is weird. Well, it's funny
Speaker 5: how we all we all have different gods. Some of
Speaker 5: us believe in a God of visual others believe in
Speaker 5: the ace here the value and others.
Speaker 11: Their god is called science. There was no true atheists.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there are some, but even still atheism
Speaker 3: logistically and logically makes no sense.
Speaker 11: But I'm about to ruin your childhood.
Speaker 5: Uh do you know the show MythBusters thee Yeah, so
Speaker 5: Jamie and Adam they actually hated each other. They were
Speaker 5: not fans, which is weird because they had such really
Speaker 5: good chemistry on set.
Speaker 11: Yeah that also are Peter Grant.
Speaker 3: Yeah all right, Peter Grant. But yeah, they weren't really
Speaker 3: homies like that. They did good for the camera and
Speaker 3: there was a few times they got into it against
Speaker 3: each other on set and they even talked shit about
Speaker 3: each other like to the cameras and then later like
Speaker 3: once they calmed down, continue made the experiments happen. But
Speaker 3: I mean that's that's them being professionals, right, Like, regardless
Speaker 3: of what we think about each other, we can make
Speaker 3: it happen. Let's get the let's get the thing done,
Speaker 3: let's get the experiment done, let's get the content out there.
Speaker 3: But like, we're not going to having a beer after
Speaker 3: this dream work.
Speaker 2: It's like, uh, Cheech and Chong hated each other for
Speaker 2: the longest time and now you I've seen interviews of
Speaker 2: uh Tommy Chong, which what a letdown that episode was. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he turned it into a whole crying liberal episode, which
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, come on, I mean.
Speaker 3: You made so much racism in Canada growing up. You're
Speaker 3: half Asian. Can Canadians don't have any beef against Asians.
Speaker 3: We told themout. Oh yeah they did.
Speaker 4: Man, Like what, Yeah, it's really weird, but it was.
Speaker 2: It was interesting to see, like, uh, he was almost
Speaker 2: like saying it out loud too, as far as he said,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, the reason why me and Tommy or me
Speaker 2: and Cheach got back together was because was to make money.
Speaker 2: He goes, yeah, we we stayed away from each other.
Speaker 2: We didn't talk, we don't get along. We have a
Speaker 2: lot of beef even still, but we we decide to
Speaker 2: put that to the side so that we can make
Speaker 2: more money. And I'm like, I don't know if that's
Speaker 2: something that you just openly admit, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a level of respect there to put
Speaker 3: your differences aside for the for the mission.
Speaker 2: Right, but do you need everybody to know that.
Speaker 3: Well, he's at an age now where he didn't give
Speaker 3: a fuck. That's the thing. One of them is still
Speaker 3: making movies and the other one is like not so.
Speaker 2: Yeah good, Spirit Animal.
Speaker 5: When I think of Tong, I don't think of him
Speaker 5: with teach I actually think of him as video from
Speaker 5: that seventy show.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's your generation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, teaching song did play a lot in at
Speaker 5: my dad's house glowing up as a kid, But I
Speaker 5: just never cared for it.
Speaker 3: I get them.
Speaker 2: Ashton said, it doesn't matter if they happened or not.
Speaker 2: That's not the point of those stories lasting for millennia.
Speaker 2: History is impersonal. But the lessons learned from those stories
Speaker 2: is the way we were told them.
Speaker 4: We are told that the way that we're told them
Speaker 4: is important.
Speaker 2: I do believe they happened, but the way in which
Speaker 2: we are told they happened is important.
Speaker 3: Okay, solid point?
Speaker 2: And God is Love said, just how God shows his
Speaker 2: omnipotence is all omnipotence. Dog Oh, I did say omni
Speaker 2: potens wasn't idiot. I'm gonna skip past the memes so
Speaker 2: we can start getting to some more of the messages here,
Speaker 2: Spirit Animal, Oh God. Rice Cooker from twenty twenty five
Speaker 2: versus Rice Cooker from nineteen forty five.
Speaker 3: One of them is an actual rice cooker, and one
Speaker 3: of them is an atomic bomb. Sam, that was fucking good.
Speaker 5: Yeah to thank you, thank you, and just so it
Speaker 5: says to all my fellows, senas, all of you. It
Speaker 5: said the dummy, the duddy, Commy's fucking bunning Hilker, Yes, yes.
Speaker 2: Wrong words. M Luke said, I'm out. Spirit Animal said
Speaker 2: he got kicked out for cussing in the lord's house,
Speaker 2: in the lord's house in Therds a lord a lord.
Speaker 2: But you don't need a church.
Speaker 3: Tom about coming in there and saying fuck the devil, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: he got kicked out for cussing in the laird's house,
Speaker 3: but you don't need to You don't need a church
Speaker 3: where they are or to where two or more gathered
Speaker 3: in his name. He will be there, says that. In
Speaker 3: Matthew eighteen twenty so Good Things, Good Things.
Speaker 2: Timothy said, I believe one day Jonathan will turn to
Speaker 2: Christianity and be super hardcore and lead many to christ.
Speaker 2: Jacob has been trying since the day he met me,
Speaker 2: and Timothy, I will say that I believe one day
Speaker 2: you will turn your your sights to the dark Lord,
Speaker 2: and you will you will convince many to come to
Speaker 2: your dark side.
Speaker 3: Sir, I will say that if Jonathan does turn to Christianity,
Speaker 3: it will be because he found it on his own.
Speaker 3: That that is for damn sure. No one, no person
Speaker 3: is going to shift Jonathan's opinion on this at all.
Speaker 3: If he does make that shift, it will be one
Speaker 3: hundred percent Jonathan. It won't be because of the show.
Speaker 3: It won't be because of me. It won't be because
Speaker 3: of a guest that we have on one day anything
Speaker 3: of that nature.
Speaker 2: I feel like most people, especially you know, if you're
Speaker 2: if you're learning about it at an older age and
Speaker 2: you weren't, for a lack of a better term, indoctrinated
Speaker 2: at a younger age, you know, you you would have
Speaker 2: to find it on your own unless you see somebody
Speaker 2: who like is a Christian and you see how they
Speaker 2: hold themselves and you see how they go about their lives,
Speaker 2: and you're like, you know what, I if it's real,
Speaker 2: It looks like it's real through this individual, And.
Speaker 3: Like, maybe that's why you have such a stick against
Speaker 3: it is because I'm such a horrible representation of what
Speaker 3: a good Christians supposed to look like.
Speaker 2: You're the only Christian pretty much anyway, You're not the
Speaker 2: only Christian I've ever met, but I will say I'm
Speaker 2: probably the nicest, most like, well put together individual I've
Speaker 2: ever met as a Mormon.
Speaker 4: So what does that saying.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Josh Monday is a pretty solid example
Speaker 3: of a of a quote unquote good Christian by all
Speaker 3: standards and metrics.
Speaker 2: Josh is the man. He is the man. And to
Speaker 2: be honest, before I kind of started going down this
Speaker 2: super deep like spiritual rabbit hole, and and I was
Speaker 2: still up in the air, and I didn't know what
Speaker 2: I believed, and I was kind of more fluid and
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. We had Josh Monday on I
Speaker 2: think for the first time, like it was like our
Speaker 2: first time ever having a show with him, and I
Speaker 2: was like, damn, he's spitting.
Speaker 4: I might actually look a little bit into it.
Speaker 2: And and then of course the Dark Lord pulled me back.
Speaker 3: I fucked it up for everybody.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Oh here we go.
Speaker 4: Oh is this where it gets wild?
Speaker 2: All right? So the Spirit Animal said maybe, But whether
Speaker 2: he does or not, he is still the big bro.
Speaker 2: I love you, Spirit Animal.
Speaker 4: I love you, Raven, said Timothy.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah. On you becoming a Christian.
Speaker 4: Yeah, said Raven.
Speaker 2: Or he will, Timothy said Raven Or he will be
Speaker 2: persecuting Christians even now. I think his work is being
Speaker 2: used for God. Give that some thought, Raven said. Raven said,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not even judging these as they go by that.
Speaker 2: I know what you mean when you say that, I'm
Speaker 2: not even trying to come at you in any kind
Speaker 2: of way.
Speaker 4: I know that.
Speaker 2: Like it is it like Christians feel like it's their
Speaker 2: duty to try and proselytize a little bit or or
Speaker 2: hope that eventually an individual will come to that sign.
Speaker 2: I know, like I know where that's coming from. Just
Speaker 2: say that that's not missed. Whenever you're saying that, I
Speaker 2: know that you're you're saying it because you think that
Speaker 2: it will be better for me. So I appreciate that,
Speaker 2: Raven said at Timothy, Jonathan would never persecute anyone have
Speaker 2: an opinion that goes against your faith, Yes, but physically
Speaker 2: harm or seek out harm to a group for their faith.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: As a Christian, having people ask questions and look for
Speaker 2: answers is what you are here to help them with.
Speaker 2: Getting pissed off over someone's opinion isn't worth it, nor
Speaker 2: does it follow God's teaching. Showing kindness, acceptance and helping
Speaker 2: them understand is the way debunking non beliefs and showing
Speaker 2: the truth in the Bible.
Speaker 4: Truth in the Word is what the Bible speaks on.
Speaker 3: Well, big facts.
Speaker 2: To God, His Love said, thanks for speaking out as
Speaker 2: a whistleblower, Carl. Yeah, we're definitely gonna have Carl back
Speaker 2: on for sure, and I think that we'll get in
Speaker 2: about five or six words that entire episode.
Speaker 4: But that's what I like that.
Speaker 3: I like that the man's got all the wealth of knowledge. Man,
Speaker 3: I just want to let him cook. He's got a
Speaker 3: couple of homies who wants to bring on with them, Like, fuck, okay,
Speaker 3: we'll just go for five hours and just let these
Speaker 3: old cats just get after it.
Speaker 2: I will happily just unplug my mic and sit back
Speaker 2: and be like, wow, you're laying it on thick.
Speaker 3: So yeah, he was awesome.
Speaker 4: So Tony said, that was Bernard Carrick who found the
Speaker 4: past on the Past. Okay, okay, Cody.
Speaker 2: Said, on my end, it looks like Timothy is looking
Speaker 2: over Spirit Animal show. Yeah, it is strange because I
Speaker 2: wonder if everybody views it differently. Jacob, are you above God?
Speaker 2: Is love on your screen?
Speaker 3: No, I'm above Timothy, spirit animals to my left.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm above Timothy and spirit animals to my left.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's weir, it'd be like that.
Speaker 2: Huh. So let's see spared animals said, Remember, kids, the
Speaker 2: world's grandest gender reveal party was when America introduced japan
Speaker 2: Our little Boy.
Speaker 3: Actually, you know that the Marine Corps is the ones
Speaker 3: that created the gender reveal party.
Speaker 4: I'm not shocked.
Speaker 3: No, I swear to God. I swear to God. So
Speaker 3: here's the backstory of that. I'm not going to spend
Speaker 3: too much time on it. There was a horse named
Speaker 3: Sergeant Reckless all right, Oh, during World War One was
Speaker 3: actually carrying AMMO and artillery rounds and things like that
Speaker 3: from point A to point B and in the line
Speaker 3: of enemy fire. And they just knew every time they
Speaker 3: sent Reckless out that she was about to get killed.
Speaker 3: And she came back and forth. I want to say
Speaker 3: it was like eighteen times under fire. There is a
Speaker 3: statue of this horse at the Marine Corps Museum, a Quatica, Virginia.
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, I was one of the
Speaker 3: marines that were there to like actually drop the the
Speaker 3: what's it called curtain to reveal the new statue and
Speaker 3: all the things. It's really cool. But anyway, so Sergeant Reckless,
Speaker 3: female horse, they came back home, went on this tour,
Speaker 3: lots of pictures, lots of things. They got this prized horse,
Speaker 3: this prize like Kentucky Derby winter horse to breed Sergeant
Speaker 3: Reckless and make a baby with it and all these things.
Speaker 3: Long story short, there was an incident where the stable
Speaker 3: boy moved Reckless to another stall and she was bred
Speaker 3: by just some regular old field horse rather than this
Speaker 3: like prize show pony things. That was a big thing.
Speaker 3: And then they that kind of made the public go
Speaker 3: away from looking at her like oh my god, it's
Speaker 3: gonna be like the best horse to ever live. And
Speaker 3: it was like, oh, well, y'all fucked it up and
Speaker 3: she got bred by a nod special horse or whatever.
Speaker 3: But as a way to reinvigorate everything, uh, when the
Speaker 3: time came, it was a boy horse that was or
Speaker 3: a male horse that was born, and the Marine Corps
Speaker 3: put a massive sign out by the highway saying.
Speaker 2: It's a boy.
Speaker 3: Thus gave birth to what we would now call a
Speaker 3: fucking gender reviewal.
Speaker 2: Wow, story time. That is crazy.
Speaker 3: Uh, the Fat Electrician did a really good job. He
Speaker 3: did a whole video on it, so just everybody's clear.
Speaker 3: Go check him out.
Speaker 5: Also watch Sergeant Stubby's his video on Solgeant Stubby.
Speaker 3: Has it come out yet?
Speaker 11: I believe it's been out.
Speaker 3: I just watched his breakdown of Chuck E Cheese, which
Speaker 3: is fucking wild.
Speaker 5: Can't stand that, like a couple months back, if not
Speaker 5: a year, Okay, fuck him.
Speaker 2: I do want to say, Skunky, your furry get up
Speaker 2: really and I know it's a skunk, but it takes
Speaker 2: me back to my childhood. I need to share this.
Speaker 2: If does anybody remember Toby Terrier?
Speaker 3: Oh no, I don't.
Speaker 4: Okay, you don't remember that, dude. I used to have
Speaker 4: one of these toys.
Speaker 2: It was like a video but it was like the
Speaker 2: this like I don't know, puppet or electronic dog or
Speaker 2: something like that that would talk. But I used to
Speaker 2: have the toy and I carried that fucking thing around
Speaker 2: me with like around me, uh all the time.
Speaker 3: That and.
Speaker 4: The my buddy doll.
Speaker 2: You remember that one, right you talking about from Chucky?
Speaker 2: It looks like Chucky. Yeah, it's like it's like the
Speaker 2: gizmo to the gremlin, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for their gizmo to the Ferbi or
Speaker 3: to the ferby, right, So yeah, damn wow. So yeah,
Speaker 3: our resident furry correspondent is wearing his furry mask on
Speaker 3: this episode. That's solid skunk.
Speaker 2: Only gonna be able to see that on Patreon. Shout
Speaker 2: out to the skunk, let's see here you. And it
Speaker 2: kind of went down and the spirit animal said, how
Speaker 2: the fuck does a paper passport survivor an explosion and
Speaker 2: a fucking building dropping in at least uh in least
Speaker 2: oh in less than seven fucking seconds. And the answer
Speaker 2: is it don't it.
Speaker 3: Don't do that, man, And they don't just find a
Speaker 3: passport on the side of the road and say I
Speaker 3: believe it or not. Here's how the guy did it,
Speaker 3: and here's how we know exactly who these people are.
Speaker 3: That's not how that goes. But yeah, Tucker Crawlson just
Speaker 3: released this big thing about nine to eleven, and it's like, Okay, yes,
Speaker 3: I am happy that Tucker is speaking on this, but also,
Speaker 3: this isn't new news to anybody who's actually got a
Speaker 3: brainstem and been paying attention, you know, to anybody who's
Speaker 3: watching them, like, huh, maybe there was some fuckery a
Speaker 3: foot on September eleven, two thousand and one. Thank you, Tucker.
Speaker 3: I didn't think of it that way before.
Speaker 2: It's like, really, to be fair to be, there are
Speaker 2: a lot of people that are still watching Fox News
Speaker 2: and taking it literally as gospel. So the so the
Speaker 2: fact that you have Tucker Carlson coming out and saying
Speaker 2: it him used to he used to be, you know,
Speaker 2: on that channel or whatever, It's like, I'm sure that
Speaker 2: a lot of the viewership transferred, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So maybe a lot of the boomers or whatever.
Speaker 2: That are still watching cable TV, they're like, oh, Tucker
Speaker 2: Carlson said it, I believe it. It's no longer just
Speaker 2: a conspiracy. So I don't know. I mean, there's multiple
Speaker 2: always looking at it. Ashton said, sorry for this rant,
Speaker 2: but I would hope someone in the chat can get
Speaker 2: something from this.
Speaker 4: This is what magic looks like.
Speaker 2: Using basic mathematical operations with only numbers derived from the
Speaker 2: Jubilee years, I was able to prove to myself that
Speaker 2: as corrupt as the Catholic faith is, the years of
Speaker 2: the Catholic Jubilee led me to the number ninety three,
Speaker 2: which is Crowley's famous number. He derived from using Greek
Speaker 2: gematria meaning agape meaning love, thelma meaning will. It's not
Speaker 2: magic in the flashy sense of spells and manifestation, but
Speaker 2: it's simply a grounding ritual in that both the polar
Speaker 2: opposites of Catholicism and the Lima are connected of the
Speaker 2: same source. The biggest proof in this is that twenty
Speaker 2: fifteen is not a true jubilee year. Pope Francis chose
Speaker 2: this year himself to declare it a jubilee. This was
Speaker 2: my tribute to him when he died, and it gave
Speaker 2: me closure. So okay, then you can kind of see
Speaker 2: the the sigil looking yeah, sand wow, dude. Numbers are
Speaker 2: like Jim Carrey in twenty three.
Speaker 5: Dude.
Speaker 2: You can go down some of the craziest rabbit hole
Speaker 2: with numbers. And that's why I don't even really like,
Speaker 2: I try not to even look into into gmatra anymore, like,
Speaker 2: because you can, you can have it mean so many
Speaker 2: things and it's impossible to narrow it down, you know,
Speaker 2: not to say that numbers, I mean, you know, I
Speaker 2: obviously we're still gonna be looking for numbers, right like
Speaker 2: for synchronicity if nothing else. But it's hard to prove
Speaker 2: anything based upon numbers that you see flash and I
Speaker 2: think that's more of a personal thing. But yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: Pagos the Weasel said, you know, the Democrats are imploding
Speaker 2: in virgin and I don't know if that's the via
Speaker 2: Virginia when they keep a man who called for the
Speaker 2: murder of his opponents in prison in for the position.
Speaker 3: Of ag Yeah, yeah, Virginia is kind of losing its
Speaker 3: shit right now. Which there's multiple places that's happening. Big
Speaker 3: cities are like war zones right now. I just watched
Speaker 3: the thing from Chicago. I just watched the thing from Portland.
Speaker 3: I'm just all over there's these protests against ice locations
Speaker 3: where they're actually having to deploy military, not because they
Speaker 3: want to, but because it's to that level where it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: now the Marines have to get sent in, Like y'all
Speaker 3: didn't have to do this. You could have a peaceful protest,
Speaker 3: but you're not. So now violence has to be met
Speaker 3: with violence, and they're so oppressive, you're fucking hurling shit
Speaker 3: at cops and you're trying to get in fist fights
Speaker 3: with armed ICE agents. What do you actually think is
Speaker 3: going to fucking happen. You're barricading and forming human walls
Speaker 3: around ICE installations to keep their vehicles from going out
Speaker 3: and doing raids. You're lucky that you don't run your
Speaker 3: asses over on public television. But like some people, it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, play stupid games and win stupid prizes. They
Speaker 3: didn't learn that from the BLM riots. They didn't learn
Speaker 3: that from Chaz. They're still having to learn this the
Speaker 3: hard way. And it's like, well, all right, dude.
Speaker 2: As I said earlier. As I said earlier, I'm really
Speaker 2: trying to do my very best to not be biased
Speaker 2: in my understanding, so I try to listen to both sides.
Speaker 2: And just recently I tried to listen to the side
Speaker 2: of the people that are protesting ICE, like what are
Speaker 2: they saying? Right, And I'm like, I'm sorry, dude, it's
Speaker 2: too extreme for me. There's no way of understanding that,
Speaker 2: Like that is too extreme. You're you're vouching for the
Speaker 2: UH for illegal people to be here, Like I don't
Speaker 2: care if they're great people. I don't care if they're
Speaker 2: hard workers. I don't care if they even make America better.
Speaker 2: They came in the wrong way. Now that being said,
Speaker 2: of course, do we blame it strictly on them, No,
Speaker 2: you blame it on fucking Biden who opened the borders
Speaker 2: in the first place. Because if it wasn't for the
Speaker 2: borders being open in the first place, they would have
Speaker 2: never gotten in here.
Speaker 4: So it's it's a it's pretty deep to look at.
Speaker 4: But unfortunately there.
Speaker 2: Are some people who, you know, they they rely too
Speaker 2: much on their heart and not enough on understanding law
Speaker 2: in the constitution and shit like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear you, And it is good to try
Speaker 3: to gain different perspectives to get the whole picture right,
Speaker 3: not gonna negate that. But at the same time, these
Speaker 3: people who are claiming that what's happening is unconstitutional, and
Speaker 3: then they are you have the right to peacefully as symbol,
Speaker 3: you don't have the right to start acts of violence
Speaker 3: against law officers. That's when it's no longer peacefully assembly right.
Speaker 3: And these people that are screaming that what's happening is
Speaker 3: unconstitutional are in turn shitting on said constitution. I don't
Speaker 3: think there is a way to be unbiased on this one.
Speaker 3: I really don't. I hear what they are saying as
Speaker 3: far as it's wrong to have an ice raid at
Speaker 3: this place of business to bring out people who are
Speaker 3: just trying to earn a living for their family. Like,
Speaker 3: I can hear what you're saying. I may have my
Speaker 3: own opinions on it, but at least I can appreciate
Speaker 3: that standpoint. And I think that a big.
Speaker 2: Part of it is just because Trump is the one
Speaker 2: implementing it, you know what I mean. If it was
Speaker 2: anybody else that is implementing it, you wouldn't hear a peep.
Speaker 2: But it's like if Trump said it, I'm thinking the
Speaker 2: exact opposite, and I'm going to be mad no matter what.
Speaker 2: And it's like, you know what, you're a slave to
Speaker 2: your own biases at this point, Like you are like
Speaker 2: the whole bloe no matter who either way. It's like, man,
Speaker 2: fucking have a brain for yourself for once. Like all
Speaker 2: the people that were protesting the whole Palestinian thing, right, Like,
Speaker 2: I'm sure some of them have really good hearts. I'm
Speaker 2: sure probably the majority you have them, you know, have
Speaker 2: good hearts, But whenever you're chanting, like to the river
Speaker 2: and to the sea, and somebody had come up, comes
Speaker 2: up to you and asks you like do you even
Speaker 2: know what that means? Like what river and what sea?
Speaker 2: And they're like, I don't know. I just you're you're
Speaker 2: defeating the purpose. It's like, dude, you're just parroting shit
Speaker 2: that you heard other people saying, like you're not you're
Speaker 2: not even a good activist.
Speaker 9: It.
Speaker 3: None of them are anymore, right, none of them are anymore,
Speaker 3: including Greta Thunberg. But anyway, hey, hey, I.
Speaker 2: Love how spirited animal has his hand raised as he's
Speaker 2: taken a bong ripe.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, sir, Okay, so I mightys have to get
Speaker 5: squinchy for this one.
Speaker 11: Okay. So have y'all heard about Japan lately?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, they possibly might have their first female prime minister,
Speaker 3: which is fucking wild.
Speaker 11: That that goes.
Speaker 5: I'm not even talking about that, but thanks for showing
Speaker 5: me that one. They are, they're the sins are damn
Speaker 5: near in an uproar like native borns.
Speaker 11: And they've had.
Speaker 5: For a while visa uh visas for people to come
Speaker 5: in bringing visas essentially what they're knock gonna lie. I've
Speaker 5: even looked into it because I like Asian women that
Speaker 5: I've also wanted to see Japan. But no, they're having
Speaker 5: an uproar because there have been uh Japanese centis. I
Speaker 5: have been getting uh bullied or harassed and uh assaulted
Speaker 5: in Japan. Uh And a growing UH community is coming
Speaker 5: there that's saying they're seeking refugee, but then they're trying
Speaker 5: to enact a certain law that I uh, it's well
Speaker 5: known that I absolutely abhor.
Speaker 3: Are we speaking on sharia wall?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So wait a minute, I didn't hear about this. Japan
Speaker 3: started taking in Muslim refugees.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, oh my god.
Speaker 5: You gotta keep in mind this is also the same
Speaker 5: culture that had beheading competitions along the Great Wall of China,
Speaker 5: that has had slavery, and not to mention the there's
Speaker 5: a little thing in.
Speaker 11: Trying called the rape of non King.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it's China, Yeah, the rape of Nan King.
Speaker 3: But even still, if we're not talking about imperial Japan
Speaker 3: and modern Japan, Japan is a weird mixture of modernity
Speaker 3: meets ultra traditionalism. Like that, that's what they are. They're
Speaker 3: big with they're big with technology, but they're also super
Speaker 3: big with family honor, and like tradition. So for you
Speaker 3: to have a Muslim refugee issues in Japan, why would
Speaker 3: they go to a place that is so deeply deeply
Speaker 3: connected to their traditions? In his like that that is
Speaker 3: the worst idea.
Speaker 5: It's because it's called the global into fada. They want
Speaker 5: to they want everything.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, that's not gonna go.
Speaker 12: Well don't.
Speaker 3: They might have a decent shot at doing that in
Speaker 3: the UK, where everybody is not for not everybody in
Speaker 3: the UK, but for the most part, people are willing
Speaker 3: to let things go and they're gonna whine about it,
Speaker 3: but they're not going to do anything about it.
Speaker 2: Japan is not that place at all.
Speaker 11: I think we need to.
Speaker 5: I think they need to bring back the way of
Speaker 5: the bushido and and the way the shinobi, a fucking
Speaker 5: grilla warfare texts that ship brings, and the samurai.
Speaker 11: I'd be really.
Speaker 3: Happy, Oh man, go ahead.
Speaker 16: Raven speaking of Switzerland, is actually finding a lady that
Speaker 16: because they have banned wearing their headdresses, and she wore
Speaker 16: it anyway, So they gave her like one hundred and
Speaker 16: they gave her like a sixty two dollars fine, and
Speaker 16: then she pretty Much is saying that they're islamophobic, and
Speaker 16: so they gave her a one thousand, one hundred and
Speaker 16: sixty two dollars fine now, and they're like, you can
Speaker 16: keep playing.
Speaker 8: We're going to keep charging you, and then we're gonna
Speaker 8: arrest you for it. Because they're banning them in a
Speaker 8: lot of the countries because it's not the thing about
Speaker 8: it is you're moving into a country, you're supposed to
Speaker 8: assimilate to that country. They're not the reversal. And so
Speaker 8: some of the countries are finally standing up and saying enough.
Speaker 8: I mean, Germany has been having enough of them for
Speaker 8: quite a while. They started shipping them out. I don't
Speaker 8: know a few years ago. Tony would probably know exactly
Speaker 8: when they started shipping them out. But there there is
Speaker 8: like a huge push to stop the spreadis the you
Speaker 8: know what I'm talking about law Churia, Law, Yeah, Churia,
Speaker 8: I got all some type.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 16: So there's a huge push right now to stop it
Speaker 16: in a lot of the countries.
Speaker 3: So Germany is sending those reps us back to the
Speaker 3: countries they came from. Good about time.
Speaker 5: I have a question, m what would be the I
Speaker 5: already know what probably would be the most efficient way
Speaker 5: to stop it. But anything shot on another crusade? What
Speaker 5: what would be the answer? Because I personally I want
Speaker 5: the fucking crusade.
Speaker 3: Uh. You can't get rid of an ideology, that's the thing.
Speaker 12: It's not.
Speaker 5: You can kill all practitioners and burn everything of it
Speaker 5: and didn't burn the entire land to the ground.
Speaker 3: But then that's called a side and that's typically frowned upon.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean.
Speaker 11: That's what they really want of everybody else.
Speaker 3: So we cannot compare ourselves to them, right, we have
Speaker 3: to see ourselves as better than that.
Speaker 2: M hm uh. Speaking of Timothy said, my mind has
Speaker 2: been changed. Slavery wrong, indentured servitude. Good, there we go.
Speaker 3: Okay, I allowed to say because I'm looking here it
Speaker 3: says the fuck Timothy. That's not slavery. That's barter than
Speaker 3: somebody else puts down. Uh bruh.
Speaker 16: The comments, it's all the way at the bottom.
Speaker 3: Now, Okay, we don't need to he to lead a
Speaker 3: message or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't need to go into it. We understand now.
Speaker 2: We're not trying to put anybody on blast. He learned
Speaker 2: his lesson, or he learned the not his lesson, but
Speaker 2: he learned, you know, a different way of looking at it.
Speaker 2: White Boy Wizard said, start the fire. I need fire
Speaker 2: for my corn Holio. Spirit animal said, I'm the great Cornholio.
Speaker 3: Indeed, my children never seen Beavis and butt Head, but
Speaker 3: they run around doing that. And I'm like, all right,
Speaker 3: at least you got the message.
Speaker 4: I need more TV before my bunghole.
Speaker 5: Indeed, indeed, I'm a banked silver three now and i
Speaker 5: just started playing the ranked yesterday.
Speaker 3: Damn all right, nice?
Speaker 2: Uh, Mario said, thank y'all for answering me in the DMS.
Speaker 2: It's been dealing with the brain tumor and other things.
Speaker 2: If anyone has any suggestions, please drop them, I will say,
Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's good for brain tumors,
Speaker 2: but something that I've really been looking into just as
Speaker 2: far as getting rid of parasites, and a lot of
Speaker 2: people say that it helps with helps like get rid
Speaker 2: of cancer, which some people will say that parasites and
Speaker 2: cancer kind of go hand in hands. The same thing
Speaker 2: is oreganal oil. Like oregonal oil, dude is slept on
Speaker 2: right now, and you can actually get him in little
Speaker 2: capsule so you ain't really got to taste it. Although
Speaker 2: whenever you burp, it's gonna be a little spicy. But
Speaker 2: it does. It does kill like a lot of a
Speaker 2: lot of bad bacteria and whatnot.
Speaker 3: So as far as digestion types of cancer and tumors
Speaker 3: and things like that goes, I'm with you. I have
Speaker 3: no idea if that has a positive effect on brain tumors.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but you know what, the science is
Speaker 3: out there, and thankfully Mario's tumor is benign. It's not
Speaker 3: going to kill him. They said that it's not growing anymore.
Speaker 3: It's just kind of there right now now. But seeing
Speaker 3: as how it is not going to kill him, perhaps
Speaker 3: he could try the oregonal oil supplements and see if
Speaker 3: that might decrease its size or something like that. I
Speaker 3: never know.
Speaker 4: Also, fasting, dude, fasting heals.
Speaker 3: A lot of shit and it does.
Speaker 4: Uh God, his love is showing B seventeen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the miracle vitamin of B seventeen. Fuck yeah, yeah, dude.
Speaker 2: And then he's coupling that with oregano spirits.
Speaker 3: That's that oreganal earl. Dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, regan earl is definitely slept on. Nora or I'm sorry, no, no, no, Nora.
Speaker 2: The explorer said, dude, my favorite childhood snack was a
Speaker 2: hot dog with ranch. Don't come at me. Try it.
Speaker 4: I have tried it. It's delicious.
Speaker 3: Oh I'm not going to start knocking ranch. I will
Speaker 3: knock mayonnaise, that's all. But again, that's a personal preference.
Speaker 3: Tons of people love the shit.
Speaker 2: Tony said, fuck, that's just pure soybean oil.
Speaker 4: Stop. I haven't grown mantets yet, so we'll see.
Speaker 3: Is that when you'll stop?
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I'm not sure yet. I'll cross that bridge
Speaker 2: whenever I come to it. I mean, because you think
Speaker 2: about it, how many awesome things have MAO in it,
Speaker 2: Like cane sauce.
Speaker 3: I don't eat it. Wow, you catch your sauce now
Speaker 3: it it tastes like mayonnaise and Thousand Island I'm good.
Speaker 3: Same with Big Mac sauce. Not a fan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crazy spirit animal.
Speaker 11: Okay.
Speaker 5: Obviously there's some things that mayonnaise can go on, like
Speaker 5: a fucking sandwich, but I'm preferred dry.
Speaker 11: You can throw some mustard on that thing too.
Speaker 3: I do like bustard.
Speaker 5: Well, if you an't want to get down and duddy,
Speaker 5: you can throw some barbecue sauce on that beach.
Speaker 3: Depending on the type of meat i'll funk with. I
Speaker 3: got some Jack Daniel's barbecue sauce in my fridge. That's delicious.
Speaker 2: M hmm.
Speaker 5: I'm a gonna try to smoke a biscuit Sunday. So up,
Speaker 5: But no, I was fuck, what was I gonna say?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Uh, y'all are talking about the mayonnaise and everything.
Speaker 5: You want to put that on it, Lizzie, It's like
Speaker 5: you're trying to mimic everything about uh sucking Dick except Paul,
Speaker 5: and you're just getting the peak stuff on the top.
Speaker 11: What the hail man.
Speaker 3: Like it?
Speaker 2: God, I really want to hot talk for real.
Speaker 11: Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: Christy guys, how goes?
Speaker 4: The weasel said? Fuck miracle whip? That ship is nasty.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say it's nasty.
Speaker 2: It's just it is a step below real mayonnaise. I
Speaker 2: grew up with it, so I can't say it's nasty.
Speaker 4: My mom put it on all.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is even a real thing
Speaker 2: for everybody else, but growing up, my mom used to
Speaker 2: always put mayonnaise on our grilled cheese sandwiches.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's a move. That's what I don't prefer that,
Speaker 3: but for people that get down with it, it does
Speaker 3: take it to the next level because all it is
Speaker 3: whipped eggs, white egg whites and so like, you're basically
Speaker 3: making a layer of like fried egg on your grilled cheese.
Speaker 3: And I mean, come on now.
Speaker 2: Well Tony disagrees. He said, we haven't had real mayo
Speaker 2: for a century. It's all soybean oil.
Speaker 3: Now, unless you make it at home and you whip
Speaker 3: your own egg whites, that is the thing you could do.
Speaker 2: U god Is Love said, If it ain't Duke's mayo,
Speaker 2: it's shit.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I wait a minute, you don't
Speaker 3: fuck with a blue plate.
Speaker 2: I'm a Helman's kind of guy. Oh all right, Maybe
Speaker 2: it's because the dark Lord calls me to it.
Speaker 4: Uh furry, go ahead, sir.
Speaker 19: I said, I do manaise with my hot dog too,
Speaker 19: But I like dudes.
Speaker 9: Oh up, and sew it on it.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you this. You like mayo on
Speaker 2: your hot dog, but you like dudes. Does mayo on
Speaker 2: your hot dog remind you of dudes?
Speaker 19: He's not a no of dukes?
Speaker 4: Oh I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I would say he's got kids. He's straight. He's a furry,
Speaker 3: but he's not gay.
Speaker 4: I mean, people can have kids and still be gay.
Speaker 19: I guess bisexual.
Speaker 2: But oh see, all.
Speaker 3: Right, it was not a pocket. Okay, So now the question,
Speaker 3: does a hot dog mayonnaise remind you of a dick?
Speaker 11: I'm out a dom Oh well still.
Speaker 19: So no, I'm that's weird question.
Speaker 12: I answer that.
Speaker 3: That's where we're drawing the line.
Speaker 2: It's weird here A characters we have on this show
Speaker 2: are fucking awesome. This dude, that's crazy. Joe said, fuck Mayo,
Speaker 2: get the vegamite on that hot dog. We don't have
Speaker 2: that in America.
Speaker 4: I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 3: It's a fucking wheat spread and it tastes like liquefied
Speaker 3: wheat red eh like. You can find it at certain
Speaker 3: international stores in this country. You'll try it one time
Speaker 3: and you're gonna wonder why the fuck Australians love this
Speaker 3: shit and and eat it on every to the level
Speaker 3: that we put nutella on shit or peanut butter. That's
Speaker 3: a that's a pretty American thing, right, So many things
Speaker 3: would be better with a layer of peanut butter and
Speaker 3: all this. They put vegemite on it and it just
Speaker 3: tastes like liquefied overly wheat bread tasting spread.
Speaker 4: Peanut butter is an American thing. I didn't know that.
Speaker 3: Good luck finding peanut butter in Europe. I'll put it
Speaker 3: like that. You can find it, but you gotta know
Speaker 3: where the fuck to look.
Speaker 2: Dude missing out.
Speaker 3: They don't fuck with it.
Speaker 2: I do a little little peanut butter on some celery
Speaker 2: all day.
Speaker 3: They I mean I I don't fuck with peanut butter either.
Speaker 3: I prefer almond butter. Tony sashio butter. That shit goes hard.
Speaker 4: I haven't tried that.
Speaker 2: Tony said mustard is the best condiment, but I am
Speaker 2: German so biased. Sour kraut and rye bread are the
Speaker 2: ship too. I agree with that sentiment. I'm a big
Speaker 2: sour crowd fan. Really good for your gut health.
Speaker 3: I'm sure tastes delicious. Vinegar and cabbage just you, I like, just.
Speaker 2: Pour it in my mouth. I could just guzzle some
Speaker 2: sour krawd. Just salting cabbage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just salting cabbage.
Speaker 12: Yeah that's all you need. That's all I got.
Speaker 9: Huh.
Speaker 3: I thought it was vinegar. It's just salted cabbage, just
Speaker 3: kind of left to its own juice.
Speaker 2: It probably has that vinegar taste because it's uh, what
Speaker 2: is it the same thing as kimbucho.
Speaker 4: Fermented? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's probably what gives it.
Speaker 3: That fits sour krawd fermented.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why it's good to your gut health.
Speaker 3: I had no idea. So what's the difference between it
Speaker 3: and kimchi? The spices you use.
Speaker 11: I've never had kimchi on some Germany and one from Asia.
Speaker 3: Well, Korean fermented cabbage, that's kimchi.
Speaker 4: I need to get on that then. If that's what's going.
Speaker 3: On, I've figured you would love that shit, especially as
Speaker 3: much as you love vinegary taste and kombucha and shit,
Speaker 3: I figured you'd be yeah, Fox with some you will
Speaker 3: love kombucha or kimchi. Shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'll try it. Salt and vinegar are
Speaker 2: the best chips out out there as well. Somebody come
Speaker 2: fight me on that one.
Speaker 3: Respectfully, I believe that Nacho doritos are the best chip
Speaker 3: out there.
Speaker 4: That's just me, you basic ass white bitch.
Speaker 3: I'm an American, sue me gohad spirit animal.
Speaker 4: I have imagined.
Speaker 2: I can imagine that yours is like free dos or
Speaker 2: funions or some shit right barbecue.
Speaker 11: Leise, how fucking dare both of you?
Speaker 9: Know? So?
Speaker 11: I think I might be the basic bitch here. Okay.
Speaker 11: I like the the torstitos and UH and salsa. That's
Speaker 11: the best.
Speaker 3: That's oh, chips and sausa goes hard as fuck. Let's
Speaker 3: be real here.
Speaker 2: What's even better is if you take those those tortilla
Speaker 2: chips and then you lay like a thick layer of
Speaker 2: shredded cheese on top. Pop that bitch in the microwave. Dude.
Speaker 4: That was my childhood favorite snack, and I.
Speaker 5: Saw, yeah, funny enough if you were. I got hot
Speaker 5: one night and I took around around pain like a
Speaker 5: deep one. I laid out the crescent rolls and rowed them,
Speaker 5: laid them out on the inside.
Speaker 11: It made a design on the inside.
Speaker 5: Then I took my hamburger meat I took, which was seasoned.
Speaker 11: I took my the cheese. I took the sauce.
Speaker 5: And the UH, the the case of dip. I poured it,
Speaker 5: I mixed and put it in it and I pulled
Speaker 5: it over. I made tak an actual taco pie out
Speaker 5: of that. So y'all should try it.
Speaker 2: You started that with I got high one night I
Speaker 2: feel like that's probably every night.
Speaker 4: Not judging because I, you know, do as well.
Speaker 5: But I I am one permanently all to dude. Like
Speaker 5: if I when I go to, like when I work out,
Speaker 5: go work and it's a hard ass day, Uh you,
Speaker 5: I don't even have to smoke that in that morning.
Speaker 5: What I downtimes out of tend I do. But if
Speaker 5: I will fucking sweat TC out my skin, I am
Speaker 5: one nobody infused.
Speaker 2: I believe that fun fact. Sam's actually not Asian. He's
Speaker 2: just high as fuck all the time.
Speaker 5: No, no, my my granddaddy can't proves I'm Asian.
Speaker 11: But yeah, no, I I got I had the Custo.
Speaker 11: Yeah I had the crust wolves. I already have a
Speaker 11: buy the French Sir very.
Speaker 4: Well, Uh Mario said us. Mexicans love mayo.
Speaker 2: Oh there you go. We put it on the corn
Speaker 2: in a cup and regular is it elotes? I don't
Speaker 2: know what that.
Speaker 3: Is, what Mexican street corn?
Speaker 4: Oh is that what it's called? I love that ship?
Speaker 2: Yeah elte Huh, I didn't know that it was called that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's butter all over it instead of mayo. But different strokes,
Speaker 2: different folks, Uh, skunky.
Speaker 4: With your hand raised, sir, What are.
Speaker 19: Your thoughts as you were talking out, like, just some
Speaker 19: good to eat my favorite thing good chicken strips, hitting rally
Speaker 19: ranch and two big beers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, shit goes hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a dinner of champions right there, sir. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: Spirit Animal said, spicy corn casserole is bomb.
Speaker 4: Throw the jalapenos in it.
Speaker 2: One think my ex mama could cook or one thing
Speaker 2: my ex mama could cook. Should call her for the recipe. No,
Speaker 2: my ex is mama, x is Mama.
Speaker 4: I got you, Yeah, dude, Nora said.
Speaker 2: Also, I wasn't ashamed to say my white ass used
Speaker 2: to eat ranch on lo main. Wow, that's a whole
Speaker 2: other level right there. That is extra another one of
Speaker 2: my favorite meals as a kid. And yes I was
Speaker 2: a fat kid. A fat kids just know how to eat, dude.
Speaker 3: I mean this is fair. They didn't get fat from
Speaker 3: just thinking about it.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Ryan said that Stash is looking good, Spirit Animal, it's
Speaker 2: coming in thick. You turn into a real boy.
Speaker 22: Yeah, I can't get the bid, but I can go
Speaker 22: damn good points Stash, and I'm I'll go with a
Speaker 22: full on Billy Ray from the nineties soul patch fuck
Speaker 22: with if you want to.
Speaker 3: Hell, yeah, dud Going underneath that, Ryan asked, did you
Speaker 3: see the confirmed texts that Candice Owen released me Jacob
Speaker 3: and Turning Point confirmed their validity. I did. I literally
Speaker 3: saw that earlier, and the text messages themselves, those weren't
Speaker 3: like secrets. Those were things that were released to the
Speaker 3: police investigators because they didn't want any stone left unturned.
Speaker 3: The current head of Turning Point just left a statement
Speaker 3: talking about it, and uh, yeah, that doesn't grant any
Speaker 3: credence to anything else that is saying that, yes, he
Speaker 3: was becoming very critical of the war in Gaza, he
Speaker 3: was becoming very critical of Israel themselves, but he still
Speaker 3: supported Israel and wanted them to win. That's what the
Speaker 3: text messages read. So again, as far as who killed
Speaker 3: Charlie Kurr, I am not saying that there was no
Speaker 3: foreign actors in play, and I'm not even saying that
Speaker 3: Israel wasn't involved. I'm saying that I can't find any
Speaker 3: hardened evidence to make me really believe that as of
Speaker 3: this moment. And if we're going off of what Candace
Speaker 3: Owens is releasing, depending on the day, depends on what
Speaker 3: she's saying honestly, as a matter of fact, anybody wants
Speaker 3: to go look at it. Ruslan Kd He's a phenomenal
Speaker 3: Christian content career that I follow and he has been
Speaker 3: releasing videos at least once a week to try to
Speaker 3: go against what Candace is saying in certain regards and
Speaker 3: confirmed other things that Candace is saying. And he just
Speaker 3: released the statement about these things, and it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: So she was right about text messages and what they said,
Speaker 3: but she didn't talk about all of them. She played
Speaker 3: one quick clip of what was said, like from Charlie's mouth,
Speaker 3: but if she would have continued the same clip, it
Speaker 3: would have said so many other things that go against
Speaker 3: her narratives she still has. She hadn't read tracted the
Speaker 3: whole Polish beehive cult. That was like a random thing
Speaker 3: she threw out and then kind of like sidestepped. But whatever,
Speaker 3: the whole thing about Bridge Eaton and uh, the Macrone
Speaker 3: family coming after her that she says they're not suing
Speaker 3: her even though confirmed they are. It's yeah, she's she's
Speaker 3: in it for the clicks right now, y'all. She is
Speaker 3: click baiting hard as fuck. And I mean I used
Speaker 3: to have the utmost respect for her. I gotta say
Speaker 3: she's uh, she has taken a dip ever since Charlie
Speaker 3: got hit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting to watch. Spirit Animals said that there
Speaker 2: is a there's a new Blair Witch Project coming out.
Speaker 2: It's called the Flair Witch Project Part.
Speaker 3: WHOA, Oh my god, Motel Hulk, No, no, that's flax.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh dude, Skunky said shit has fired tonight. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I was getting hot in the hey. Yeah. No, I
Speaker 2: don't expect you to ride with that all night, but
Speaker 2: it was cool seeing you in it. Joe said, just
Speaker 2: on McDonald's serving human meat, I discussed this with my
Speaker 2: girlfriend and she said, I've heard on TikTok that KFC
Speaker 2: uses human meat.
Speaker 3: I think that'd be a lot harder to pull off.
Speaker 3: Chicken meat does not look anything close to human. You'd
Speaker 3: get you'd have a lot easier time of replacing a
Speaker 3: red meat with it.
Speaker 2: But I mean, if you turn it into a paste,
Speaker 2: I imagine you can form it just about however you want.
Speaker 3: I mean maybe, but like logistically, if you were to
Speaker 3: take human meat, you'd have to drain all the blood
Speaker 3: out of it. You'd have to turn it into a pulp.
Speaker 3: And then even then, if even if you're trying to
Speaker 3: make some sort of a chicken nugget out of it,
Speaker 3: you would have to change the entire color scheme of it.
Speaker 3: Even drain of all blood's, it doesn't look the same,
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, humans are red blooded, therefore we
Speaker 3: have red meat. It's just different. Old Tree.
Speaker 2: There was that whole weird commercial about the the chicken
Speaker 2: tender or whatever, like what was it, like a man
Speaker 2: that was turned into a chicken tender that was dumping
Speaker 2: that was dumped into like a gravy river or some shit,
Speaker 2: mm hmm. And then yeah, I remember this meme that
Speaker 2: KFC posted. It literally was from a book I think
Speaker 2: it's a book or a pamphlet or something like that
Speaker 2: called Melanin People how to Eat and Devour their energy
Speaker 2: The White Luciferians Reveal their Secrets, edited by Bobby Hemmett.
Speaker 3: And I don't think that was from KFC.
Speaker 2: No, no, But KFC took that image and replaced the
Speaker 2: the fucking baby with a bucket of KFC chicken, which
Speaker 2: is wild melanin.
Speaker 3: So they're talking about eating black people and KFC took
Speaker 3: that and used it with a bucket of chicken.
Speaker 4: That's a real meme that KFC posted the.
Speaker 3: Jokes right themselves. Y'all, we're not gonna make them, but wow.
Speaker 4: It was not even jokes. It's like it could this.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go there, but this like them
Speaker 2: saying like this is I don't know, they're they're karmic
Speaker 2: way or some shit of releasing it out there. Hey,
Speaker 2: we told you that you were eating fucking human meat.
Speaker 2: You didn't believe it because you took it in meme form.
Speaker 3: I don't know, no, no, no, I mean the racist jokes
Speaker 3: like they write themselves with this. The book was titled
Speaker 3: how to Eat Melanated.
Speaker 4: People melanin people.
Speaker 3: It says, right, melanin is the thing that makes black
Speaker 3: people black. Yeah, I'm aware, and KFC the book anyway,
Speaker 3: moving on, moving on, I see where you're going moving
Speaker 3: We ain't going there, but KFC, shure the fuck did anyway?
Speaker 4: I find it pretty interesting.
Speaker 2: It's how to eat melanin people, but it looks like
Speaker 2: a white baby, So I don't know what the fuck
Speaker 2: is going on with that.
Speaker 3: I don't know these fucking posted recently. Dude, it's aware.
Speaker 4: I imagine you get put on a list if you
Speaker 4: purchase that book from Amazon.
Speaker 3: This is a sick world we live in, y'all. That's
Speaker 3: all I'm saying.
Speaker 11: I know you get put on this if you order
Speaker 11: mine comph you do.
Speaker 3: Indeed, that makes me want to buy it. One of
Speaker 3: our cult members swears that I need to read it,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, no, dude, I'm not fucking reading mind comp.
Speaker 11: Oh, funny enough.
Speaker 5: My Jewish teacher of history, he was the history teachers
Speaker 5: and everything he was Jewish.
Speaker 11: He had us read mine.
Speaker 3: Comb Well, you gotta know what the opposition's fucking with
Speaker 3: in order to combat them effectively.
Speaker 5: And he also pushed the Communist Manifesto pretty.
Speaker 3: Hard, which I believe that people should read so that
Speaker 3: you can understand the utopia that these people are trying
Speaker 3: to achieve, and then you'll realize why it is such
Speaker 3: a fever dream and why I can never, ever, ever
Speaker 3: ever actually be realized fast.
Speaker 5: He said animal Farm was a piece, was not how
Speaker 5: communism works, and he was glorifying marks.
Speaker 3: Uh, animal farm is how despotism works. But all communism
Speaker 3: turns into despotism. It's it all devolves into it. So yeah,
Speaker 3: go ahead, as uh this one.
Speaker 9: It's it's controversial because I don't know. I believe Zionism
Speaker 9: doesn't have anything to do with Israel itself. It's more
Speaker 9: about their influence in America, which is the land of Zion.
Speaker 9: Because if you look at the etymology of the word
Speaker 9: Zion and how it's used in the biblical sense, David
Speaker 9: in the beginning, it's a fourtified fortress and David King
Speaker 9: David takes rule over it. And so it's this theoretical idea.
Speaker 3: Okay, Mountain Zion is a place that they like walked
Speaker 3: up and took control over.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but I mean I just looked into this the
Speaker 9: other day. I can't quote anything, but I found it
Speaker 9: pretty interesting because I had the idea come to me
Speaker 9: without reading anything, and then I looked into the etymology
Speaker 9: of the world and where it was first used.
Speaker 3: I mean, the word was around before America was a place.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, it's it's a very old word. But the
Speaker 9: movement became a political movement only within the last two
Speaker 9: hundred years.
Speaker 3: But that being said, everybody thinks that America is the
Speaker 3: new Babylon. We can't be Zion and Babylon at the
Speaker 3: same time. Not everybody, Okay, the same thing, right, the
Speaker 3: place that is going to be brought down to its
Speaker 3: knees that and no, no, no, not everyone, but a
Speaker 3: lot of people within the Biblical scholarly community believe that
Speaker 3: America is the new Babylon and we are acting as
Speaker 3: Sodom Ingamour once did and that's what's going to bring
Speaker 3: us to our downfall and all these things.
Speaker 2: That's probably think huh, that's probably something that Americans think.
Speaker 3: No, I said Biblical scholars, and a lot of them
Speaker 3: are from different countries, some of them are in America, yes,
Speaker 3: but I mean, yeah, if you look at it, by
Speaker 3: and large, Babylon at the time when that was being
Speaker 3: talked about, Babylon the Great, that was the greatest empire
Speaker 3: the world had ever seen up unto that point. If
Speaker 3: you look at America right now, we are the greatest
Speaker 3: empire of the world has ever seen up until this point.
Speaker 3: But I mean to that point. They also thought that
Speaker 3: Britain was Babylon the Great when it was the British Empire.
Speaker 3: And I mean it's gone through the it's ran the gambit,
Speaker 3: you know. But that's my point. We can't be Babylon
Speaker 3: and Sodom and Gomora and all these places that are
Speaker 3: about to fall under the weight of our own iniquity,
Speaker 3: and also be the quote unquote New Zion as well.
Speaker 9: Because all the same stories telling different aspects of why
Speaker 9: these places fell and why great empires fall, and so
Speaker 9: the New Testament is how the people of that nation
Speaker 9: can be freed from the qualms the iniquities of that
Speaker 9: nation which ruled over them.
Speaker 3: Zion and Babylon. Wait, it's like saying, like Heaven and
Speaker 3: Hell are the same thing, is just a matter of
Speaker 3: how you're looking at them, per Old and New Testament,
Speaker 3: like Zion is supposed to be the antithesis of Babylon
Speaker 3: and Sodom, that.
Speaker 9: They're all aspects of the same thing. We idealize a
Speaker 9: perfect state where we are a utopia. We idealize a utopia,
Speaker 9: and it's not about the external, it's about the internal.
Speaker 9: And that's the message of Christ. The kingdom is within you,
Speaker 9: not outside of you. We look at your kingdoms, is
Speaker 9: great empires, but truly it's us who are what's important
Speaker 9: within that kingdom.
Speaker 2: I love trying to say Ashton, but I will say,
Speaker 2: if you're speaking esoteric truth, it's.
Speaker 4: Going to fall on It's going to fall that.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I didn't know that that's where you're going. I
Speaker 3: thought you were talking about like a historic precedence thing,
Speaker 3: not a spiritual, esoteric understanding. My bad, I misunderstood the
Speaker 3: direction repeating itself.
Speaker 9: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yes, it always will, for sure. It's a tried and
Speaker 2: true formula. You know, skunky, go ahead, skunk, drunk as
Speaker 2: a skunk.
Speaker 19: Would it be bad if I said I read the
Speaker 19: Microcraft when I was my minecraft. I can't pronounce it correctly,
Speaker 19: I shared because I'm half German, but I know I
Speaker 19: read Hitler's book. I found an old bookstore when I
Speaker 19: was fifteen in the early nineties, and after two years
Speaker 19: it disappeared in my room. I think the dad took
Speaker 19: it and throw it away. But I was just curious,
Speaker 19: and I'm like you, I was trying to learn a
Speaker 19: lot of religions. I became spiritual through learning things and
Speaker 19: seeing things. I have a crazy ass bathroom. My sister's
Speaker 19: demonic worshiper. My dad's a Christian, my mom was a Catholic.
Speaker 19: And I'm spiritual. And I had a demon torturing me
Speaker 19: when I was like fifteen two, So I understand Jacob's thing.
Speaker 19: But I read that book and I've been judged for
Speaker 19: reading it, but they're crazy, man, that's.
Speaker 12: How you would want the world.
Speaker 19: So I'm kind of glad it was gone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. The book is also really poorly written.
Speaker 3: Any person that like it will look into it because
Speaker 3: it was written by somebody who's not a writer. He
Speaker 3: was a field art student, and the majority of it
Speaker 3: he was talking about how Germany got to the point
Speaker 3: there at now and the Germany that he sees for
Speaker 3: the future, and it was basically the psycho babblings of
Speaker 3: a loser. I don't know house to say it like that.
Speaker 19: My family line fled from Germany and Poland.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I'm glad they made their way to America
Speaker 3: and uh got on the winning side of history, if
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, buddy, well look it is about that time. Good
Speaker 2: cult member. Sorry we weren't able to hit all of
Speaker 2: the messages, but look, thank you guys so much for
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