Speaker 1: Time for an SDH Network one D one and for
Speaker 1: this one we head to Taxoma and catch up with
Speaker 1: someone whose business card now has information on the front
Speaker 1: and the back, I think, because now Adrian Forbes is
Speaker 1: now no longer just the man in charge of the
Speaker 1: sporting aspects of things. He goes from sporting director to
Speaker 1: sporting director and the new head coach of Texoma and
Speaker 1: USL League one. As everybody's getting ready for that, Texoma
Speaker 1: FC's new master of everything, Adrian Forbes coach, thanks for
Speaker 1: dropping by for a one B one.
Speaker 2: Absolutely my pleasure. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this first and foremost for those
Speaker 1: that don't know your story, how did you end up
Speaker 1: in the triplex of Sherman Ada Ardmore and get to
Speaker 1: this particular point in your coaching career and your football career.
Speaker 2: Well, let's go back.
Speaker 3: Really fortunate enough to have had a career out in
Speaker 3: the UK that took on the plane for the teams
Speaker 3: and likes of Norwise City, Swansea, Blackpool, Millwall, Grimsby Town
Speaker 3: and represent in my country, England at youth level. So
Speaker 3: really fortunate enough to have lived the dream that so
Speaker 3: many young men and girls out there wanted to achieve.
Speaker 3: I was lucky enough to achieve that, and off the
Speaker 3: back of that, that took me on a coaching route
Speaker 3: which sick on rolls. Initially when I had to quit
Speaker 3: playing after nine operations on one knee, working for Norwich's
Speaker 3: recognized charity of the Community Sports Foundation, where Ian Thornton
Speaker 3: and a gentleman by the name of Dan goff And
Speaker 3: gave me my first opportunity to really delve into coaching.
Speaker 3: That took me then onto a full time role working
Speaker 3: for Norwise City's Academy as the main part of developing
Speaker 3: their younger players.
Speaker 2: At the club.
Speaker 3: Changes to the lead staff at the academy there then
Speaker 3: took me on Toton Town, where I would say my
Speaker 3: career really flourished from a coaching point of view, going
Speaker 3: in there as a head of coaching, but also taken
Speaker 3: on roles as first team coach in some tough times,
Speaker 3: notably working alongside Nathan Jones when we were ten points
Speaker 3: to drift at the bottom of the championship, but being
Speaker 3: his first team coach which allowed us to somehow, I
Speaker 3: don't know how, recover those ten points and stay in
Speaker 3: the championship. I still don't know how we almost achieved
Speaker 3: the impossible dream and.
Speaker 2: That one and then you know that then led me
Speaker 2: on to have the role of running the.
Speaker 3: Club's development team, which was just underneath the first team.
Speaker 3: They're working closely with Robert Edwards and his first team
Speaker 3: staff there as well, So some amazing roles. But a
Speaker 3: chance meeting, shall we say, via LinkedIn linked me with
Speaker 3: Ben Watson and Simon Keyser at texomer Ce, mainly with
Speaker 3: a viewpoint of trying to build a link between what
Speaker 3: was being built here at texomer.
Speaker 2: And what had already been built at Luton Town.
Speaker 3: For whatever reason, it wasn't right for Lutontown at this
Speaker 3: point in time to build that partnership. It might be
Speaker 3: something that hopefully I can explore later on down the
Speaker 3: line with the connection that I have with the club,
Speaker 3: But that led to me building an unintentional relationship with
Speaker 3: Ben and Simon and that led to them offering me
Speaker 3: the opportunity to come across as the sporting director. So yeah,
Speaker 3: not something I planned for, not something I expected. But
Speaker 3: listen here.
Speaker 1: I am how much of a culture shock was it
Speaker 1: for you to go from Canaries and Swans and full disclosure,
Speaker 1: remember the Swans Trust to go from there to what
Speaker 1: you're doing there at Texama. How much of a shock
Speaker 1: to the system was it for you?
Speaker 2: Oh? Massive?
Speaker 3: Because you know, I've always been that guy that has said,
Speaker 3: you know, as a youngster, I want to realize a
Speaker 3: dream of being a professional footballer. Then you step away
Speaker 3: from that and you go, I want to realize that
Speaker 3: dream of being the best possible coach stroke youth developer
Speaker 3: that I can, so, as I said a moment ago,
Speaker 3: given as many people the opportunity to fulfill their dream
Speaker 3: as I can. And then all of a sudden, there's
Speaker 3: this sporting director's role put in front of you, and
Speaker 3: you're going, hmm.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 3: I've seen sporting directors work, whether it be Stuart Webble
Speaker 3: when I was at Norris City or certainly Paul Watson
Speaker 3: at Luton Town and seen what they do and see
Speaker 3: how they are instrumental in shaping a club on a
Speaker 3: day to day basis. And then it's that mental battle
Speaker 3: and that almost imposter syndrome of can I do this
Speaker 3: role because my background is in playing and you've development,
Speaker 3: But actually now I have a real strong or real
Speaker 3: good opportunity to really impact on not just developing players
Speaker 3: but hopefully developing.
Speaker 2: Staff as well.
Speaker 3: And it's something that I grew to realize that I
Speaker 3: took pride in anyway without realizing I was taking pride
Speaker 3: in that and realizing that actually there was far more
Speaker 3: to me than I realized when I actually delved into
Speaker 3: the sporting director's role, and that was something I went, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm forty five years old. Now this opportunity has woken
Speaker 3: something up in me that I didn't realize was in me.
Speaker 2: Let's jump too fitted into it unless you know, let's
Speaker 2: see where it can take us.
Speaker 1: Have you always thought of yourself, maybe in the back
Speaker 1: of your mind but not activated on it. Have you
Speaker 1: thought of yourself as a always as a builder or
Speaker 1: as someone who maintains or how would you characterize yourself
Speaker 1: as you go into this work here at Tech?
Speaker 2: Sim a builder one hundred percent. The builder.
Speaker 3: Whether it's building that relationship with a young player that's
Speaker 3: going to allow that player to buy into what I
Speaker 3: believe in him, to give him the best opportunity to
Speaker 3: fulfill his dreams.
Speaker 2: That's about building.
Speaker 3: Whether it's having a clear understanding of what that individual
Speaker 3: needs to help them realize their dream. How do we
Speaker 3: build the right platform for that person, and how do
Speaker 3: we build the right step in stones for that person
Speaker 3: to achieve what they want to achieve. That's building. So
Speaker 3: everything for me is that, even my own personal journey,
Speaker 3: you know, how do I build the right knowledge base
Speaker 3: and the right and relevant qualifications to allow me to
Speaker 3: achieve what I want to achieve has all been about building.
Speaker 3: If I look at what I went on to achieve
Speaker 3: from a coaching point of view, starting with the Community
Speaker 3: Sports Foundation of Norwich City with the club's charity, to
Speaker 3: building my profile and building my knowledge base and building
Speaker 3: my skills and expertise to then be able to go
Speaker 3: and impact on academy players at Norwige's Catwe Academy, to
Speaker 3: then building that detail, that knowledge base and the expertise
Speaker 3: to then become a head of coaching and then a
Speaker 3: first team coach and then be able to run the
Speaker 3: development team at Luton. It's always been about building. But
Speaker 3: as I say, I think this opportunity made me realize
Speaker 3: that that's what I'm almost made to do and what
Speaker 3: I'm almost shaped to do, or what sorry, my previous
Speaker 3: career as a player has shaped me to do, so
Speaker 3: not something that I realized i'd be doing, but unbeknown
Speaker 3: to me underneath, I think I've probably realized that that's
Speaker 3: probably or this is probably.
Speaker 1: The role for me from earning fifty six cents a
Speaker 1: mile with all of the time that you've been spending
Speaker 1: in a car, are learning about TECHSOMA. How would you
Speaker 1: describe what football means, not the American football, but the
Speaker 1: other football, the football that we're talking about, what it
Speaker 1: means to the fabric of that particular part of the US.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be an educational piece, to
Speaker 2: be honest with you.
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be the first time there's
Speaker 3: obviously obviously being a professional club in this area. So
Speaker 3: there's a lot of learning and there's a lot of
Speaker 3: information and detail that we're going to need to give
Speaker 3: to the local community to get one hundred percent buy in.
Speaker 3: I think if you came across talking about American football,
Speaker 3: everyone knows straight away exactly what you're talking about and
Speaker 3: the real landscape of it. But bringing professional soccer to Sherman,
Speaker 3: where the team's going to be predominantly based in Dennison,
Speaker 3: it's a completely new entity for everyone. And you know,
Speaker 3: season ticket sales have been superb so far and there's
Speaker 3: a lot of noise around what we're doing, but we
Speaker 3: still need to create more noise, and we still need
Speaker 3: to build a brand and an identity that allows the
Speaker 3: community to gain an understanding of what we were about.
Speaker 3: Because we want to be noticeable in the community. We
Speaker 3: want the community to know what we are, and we
Speaker 3: want that community to feel part of what we are building.
Speaker 2: And you know, it's important for me to try and.
Speaker 3: Build out a roster of players and build a team
Speaker 3: that that person in the community can turn up and
Speaker 3: watch us play and feel part of that can turn
Speaker 3: up and watch us play and say, oh, I see
Speaker 3: myself in that staff member, or I see myself in
Speaker 3: that player that's playing. And you know, I use a
Speaker 3: stupid analogy of I want to create a team and
Speaker 3: start building a history and a legacy that gets bums
Speaker 3: on seats as it gets the fans through the gate.
Speaker 3: But then also with the style of play that we've
Speaker 3: got gets bums off seats because they're excited about what
Speaker 3: might happen. They're excited about when this individual receives the
Speaker 3: ball and what he might do. So community is key
Speaker 3: for me and no football club, wherever you are in
Speaker 3: the world, is nothing without building that rapport and that
Speaker 3: relationship with the community, and that's something that you know
Speaker 3: will be instrumental in hopefully what can be a successful
Speaker 3: soccer club football club in years to come.
Speaker 1: I would imagine that your phone slash whatsad blew up
Speaker 1: once this announcement was made. How wide ranging have the
Speaker 1: conversations been? And I imagine that you have unlimited international
Speaker 1: minutes when it comes to your phone these days. How
Speaker 1: wide ranging are we talking? It's like, oh, yeah, what's
Speaker 1: going on there? What are the conversations been like? And
Speaker 1: who where have you been able to be reached out from.
Speaker 1: I guess it's been really.
Speaker 3: Interesting, you know for me, and that when I was
Speaker 3: offered the initially the sporting director's role you know in
Speaker 3: the UK, was quite a big deal that I'd been
Speaker 3: given this opportunity and already positive, which been amazing. But
Speaker 3: then when the head coach role was announced, it went
Speaker 3: crazy and I, in my little mind couldn't have them
Speaker 3: why And then someone here that works at the club said,
Speaker 3: but what you need to realize is the head coach
Speaker 3: over here, from a US point of view, is the
Speaker 3: main person. Yes, there is sporting directors, there's general managers.
Speaker 3: But the head coach is the head coach and I, ah, right, okay,
Speaker 3: me holding my hands. I innocently hadn't looked at it
Speaker 3: like that because the landscape in the UK is slightly
Speaker 3: slightly different around that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's gone a little crazy.
Speaker 3: I'm still trying to work out how certain people have
Speaker 3: managed to find my email address. But also there's been
Speaker 3: a lot of people that have been really accommodating and
Speaker 3: really understanding of the fact that you know, what we're doing,
Speaker 3: where and where we are within the journey of what
Speaker 3: we're doing. But also the harsh reality is I need
Speaker 3: those people to get in touch. I need to have
Speaker 3: those conversations with people in order to make this club
Speaker 3: a success. So I'm not going to moan about it.
Speaker 3: I'm going to take it in my stride. I'm going
Speaker 3: to embrace it, and you know, ultimately, hopefully by embracing
Speaker 3: it and having those conversations with those right and relevant people,
Speaker 3: it will hopefully allow me to gain their help, expertise,
Speaker 3: knowledge and understanding that I need to make a success
Speaker 3: of the two roles.
Speaker 1: Adrian Forbes now adding head coach to the role of
Speaker 1: sporting director at TEXOMASC getting ready for USL League one.
Speaker 1: It's going to be there before you know it. And
Speaker 1: I say it that way because everybody's oh, yeah, twenty five, Yeah,
Speaker 1: twenty five. No, twenty five is like right there. I know.
Speaker 1: And this is a question that I ask a lot
Speaker 1: of the startup organizations that we do with these one
Speaker 1: v ones. I know there is a to do list
Speaker 1: in there somewhere, and it could be in a WhatsApp group,
Speaker 1: It could be in an email chain, could be in
Speaker 1: a pdf, could be in a Google doc, could be
Speaker 1: on outside of the camera range that I'm staring at
Speaker 1: you right now in your office, one of those big
Speaker 1: four foot by eight foot wide dry erase boards that's
Speaker 1: got all the lines and the different colored dry erase
Speaker 1: markers going in different directions. And where is this to
Speaker 1: do list? And what do you think the next thing
Speaker 1: that you, either as head coach or sporting director can
Speaker 1: cross off of that list as you get ready for
Speaker 1: USL League one? What do you think that is?
Speaker 2: How many lists do you want? Because there's a you.
Speaker 1: Like I said, you're different people. Might be a list
Speaker 1: for a head coach, might be a list for that
Speaker 1: hit me, and that is it?
Speaker 3: You know that there are different lists at the moment
Speaker 3: for different people, obviously, but on my to do list
Speaker 3: at the moment is player signings.
Speaker 2: That's that's the reality.
Speaker 3: You know, we need to build out a roster of
Speaker 3: players that can compete in USL League one next season.
Speaker 3: You know, there'll be a lot of teams and a
Speaker 3: lot of people out there that are going, oh, they're
Speaker 3: a year one, they're a startup. Yes, we are, one
Speaker 3: hundred percent. We are, and that's obvious and that's there
Speaker 3: for everyone to see. However, you know, if we're going
Speaker 3: to do it, let's try and do it properly, and
Speaker 3: if we're going to do it, let's try and do
Speaker 3: it to the best of our ability. And that will
Speaker 3: come down to the team that we put out on
Speaker 3: the field on a match day, because ultimately, we want
Speaker 3: to create a roster or a squad of players that
Speaker 3: can compete and we want to win games.
Speaker 2: That's the nature of the Beast.
Speaker 3: At any soccer or football entity wherever you are in
Speaker 3: the world, it's about points and it's about winning games.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm well versed in that myself.
Speaker 3: But equally, you know, I want to build out an
Speaker 3: environment here where players can feel safe, players can feel supported,
Speaker 3: and players can come into training each day knowing that, yes,
Speaker 3: they are going to be improved and developed as a player,
Speaker 3: but they're also going to be improved and developed as
Speaker 3: a person.
Speaker 2: And I'm a person first person. That's me. The better
Speaker 2: the person, the better the player. And if we can
Speaker 2: make sure we're taking care.
Speaker 3: Of our players in a way that allows them to
Speaker 3: know that they can come in and feel safe, secure
Speaker 3: and thrive, then that will hopefully need to a team
Speaker 3: on the pitch on a match day that feels safe,
Speaker 3: feel secure, and can go and express themselves. And that's
Speaker 3: what I want to create. So there's lots of conversations
Speaker 3: going on in the background at the moment with several players,
Speaker 3: and it is them sounding us out as a club
Speaker 3: and us sounding them out as individuals as well, and
Speaker 3: making sure that the fabric of that individual fits into
Speaker 3: our beliefs and our values as a club as well,
Speaker 3: because I know firsthand it only takes the one bad
Speaker 3: egg or the one bad individual that can really upset
Speaker 3: the group. And it's so important to do your due
Speaker 3: diligence in your background detail to make sure you do
Speaker 3: bring in the right players for the environment that you're
Speaker 3: trying to create. Having said that, though, I also do
Speaker 3: personally think it's important that with doing your due diligence,
Speaker 3: you making your own viewpoints as well in that individual
Speaker 3: and making sure that you are happy and you are
Speaker 3: comfortable with the individual that you're bringing into a club.
Speaker 3: Other people may have worked with that player or with
Speaker 3: that agent, with that individual before and will have their
Speaker 3: own personal beliefs and values and what they think of
Speaker 3: that individual. But for me, I want to be able
Speaker 3: to judge that person's character for myself. Am I going
Speaker 3: to get everyone right?
Speaker 2: Of course?
Speaker 3: Not no manager does, no exporting director does. But opportunity
Speaker 3: is what we want to try and create for people.
Speaker 3: And as I say, environment is key for me in
Speaker 3: building the right culture where individuals can come in here
Speaker 3: and thrive and hopefully that will bring some success down
Speaker 3: the line as well.
Speaker 1: How much did you know about USL slash, USL League one,
Speaker 1: slash as Sporting director, USL League two and WN aspects
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff coming into this.
Speaker 3: I had a knowledge, but not a detailed knowledge being open,
Speaker 3: being honest, transparent, and when contact was first made there
Speaker 3: was a lot of time and energy spent on really
Speaker 3: doing my research and really gaining a good understanding of
Speaker 3: the landscape over here because it is so vastly different
Speaker 3: to different to the UK.
Speaker 2: Have ill.
Speaker 3: Mentally manufactured or got my head around all the leagues
Speaker 3: below USL League one and two. No, because there are
Speaker 3: so many leagues and looking into the college years and
Speaker 3: the levels that are played there, there's so much. But
Speaker 3: I'm really fortunate and I've got some really good staff
Speaker 3: around me that have a much greater knowledge of that
Speaker 3: aspect of the game over here that they can educate me.
Speaker 3: And you know, I've not shied away from that, giving
Speaker 3: the people the autonomy to tell me and advise me
Speaker 3: and help me and support me with that, because you know,
Speaker 3: we're all shaping things together, so we're all learning together.
Speaker 3: But what I also do know is there'll be many
Speaker 3: a manager out in the Premier League that have an
Speaker 3: understanding in the Premier League but I've never coached or
Speaker 3: worked in it before, but still go across there and
Speaker 3: make a success of it because they have the right policies,
Speaker 3: that have the right procedures and they have the right
Speaker 3: processes that has allowed them to be a success. And
Speaker 3: certainly that's The way I've looked at this role is that,
Speaker 3: of course I don't know everything, and I'd be foolish.
Speaker 2: To see here in front of you and say that
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: But what I do have is the right work ethic,
Speaker 3: and the right attitude and the right humility for as
Speaker 3: for help and support if I don't know. But once
Speaker 3: I do know, I'll make sure that I remember it.
Speaker 3: I'll make sure that I implement things. And even at
Speaker 3: the age of forty five, I'm happy to learn. I
Speaker 3: want to learn, and that's what I'll do.
Speaker 1: How much USL League one watching have you done? Since
Speaker 1: you have picked up one job title and then a
Speaker 1: second job title? I mean, are you Are you familiar
Speaker 1: with what's going on with Los Bujos, the murder owls
Speaker 1: up in Omaha. You're taking road trips, so you're going
Speaker 1: to Statesboro, You're seeing what's going on with Tormenta or
Speaker 1: Greenville Triumph. What familiar are your watch? Are you camped
Speaker 1: out on weekends watching Central Valley Fuego is what I'm asking.
Speaker 3: There's been a lot of watching. Have I got in
Speaker 3: the car or the flights have made those journeys? No,
Speaker 3: not as yet, because I'm also I've only been over
Speaker 3: here for yesterday, made exactly a month since I've been
Speaker 3: over here, because you know, getting into the US from
Speaker 3: a visa point of view, it came.
Speaker 2: With his challenges. I'm not gonna lie to come with
Speaker 2: his challenges. And you know it's not just myself to's
Speaker 2: come across you know, the wife and kids.
Speaker 3: You know, the wife has made a ridiculous sacrifice to
Speaker 3: come out here as well and give it up a
Speaker 3: fantastic job, to come out here and back me and
Speaker 3: support me and help me do this role. So the
Speaker 3: importance of helping her settle and helping the family settle.
Speaker 2: As well as a paramount importance to me.
Speaker 3: And I'm never going to deny that or shy away
Speaker 3: from that, because a happy home leads to a happy
Speaker 3: work life.
Speaker 2: As far as I'm concerned that, I want her to
Speaker 2: feel safe and secure.
Speaker 3: In allowing her to live her life and build out
Speaker 3: a life out here whilst Nanda in this job as well.
Speaker 3: So we've not been able to do those road trips yet.
Speaker 3: They will happen probably next year when the season starts.
Speaker 3: I'll be obviously seeing when I can go in and
Speaker 3: visiting clubs between our games so I know who we're
Speaker 3: playing next. But yes, the Internet and my laptop and
Speaker 3: certain other aspects of things that you can utilize to
Speaker 3: watch teams and research teams. They are being exhausted at
Speaker 3: the moment and just gaining an understanding. You know, I'm watching.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to name the teams, but those that
Speaker 3: are listening and you will know. I'm still trying to
Speaker 3: fathom how I can be watching a team playing eleven
Speaker 3: v eleven game of soccer or football, but there's a
Speaker 3: baseball pitch within the football soccer pitch. I'm like, it's
Speaker 3: blown my mind, but it is now my reality, and
Speaker 3: it just brings a different challenge as a sporting director
Speaker 3: and head coaching that how do you now set your
Speaker 3: team up for success with taking those factors into account
Speaker 3: as well, so important aspects of the role, important aspects
Speaker 3: of the job, but all things that just are going
Speaker 3: to improve me and develop me as a human, improve
Speaker 3: me and developed me as a head coach and sporting director,
Speaker 3: and ultimately helping improve those players that are coming into
Speaker 3: the league if they haven't done it before, but those
Speaker 3: that have done it before, which hopefully I'll be able
Speaker 3: to bring some experience players and can hopefully help and
Speaker 3: educate myself and the players around navigating those issues as well.
Speaker 1: So what is the next marker for you, either as
Speaker 1: sporting director head coach when it comes to Texoma? What
Speaker 1: is the next event, the next marker here in this
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I've only been here for a month
Speaker 1: and now I'm in my second month of doing this
Speaker 1: whole thing. What's the next thing that the next accomplishment
Speaker 1: that folks can sit there and look at. I forgot
Speaker 1: the Quad Cities. I forgot Dennison, So I mean you're
Speaker 1: Sherman Ada, Ardmore and Dennison. I completely forgot about Dennison.
Speaker 1: But in the Quad Cities, what are you looking forward to?
Speaker 1: The most coming up soon that folks can latch onto
Speaker 1: there at Texoma, That.
Speaker 3: First signing, that first key signing, where the fans can
Speaker 3: look at that and go, ah, right, here we go.
Speaker 3: Because at the moment it's I wouldn't say it's an
Speaker 3: unknown entity.
Speaker 2: But until people really start seeing.
Speaker 3: Oh, well this player is now going to sign, they've
Speaker 3: managed to attract this player from this club or from
Speaker 3: that club, people will really be able to start to
Speaker 3: I think, gain a bit of a better understanding and
Speaker 3: I also think it then becomes real, not saying it isn't,
Speaker 3: because clearly it is and everyone knows it is. But
Speaker 3: it's when you start bringing those players in and you
Speaker 3: start getting the media attention that comes off the back
Speaker 3: of that, then all of a sudden Israel Because I
Speaker 3: do genuine believe that one will happen, then the next
Speaker 3: one will follow, and the next one will follow, and
Speaker 3: so on and so on, and that ripple effect will
Speaker 3: be there for everyone to see. So that first sign
Speaker 3: in which I'm hoping, is going to be sooner rather
Speaker 3: than later. We're speaking to many, many, many an agent,
Speaker 3: as you can imagine, because so many of people are
Speaker 3: reaching out, and what's been really pleasing is there's a
Speaker 3: lot of people out there that want to be part
Speaker 3: of what's being built here. So yeah, really exciting that
Speaker 3: we might be able to make that signing soon that
Speaker 3: will send a bit of a marker, in a bit
Speaker 3: of an understanding to those who aren't really.
Speaker 2: Too sure of them it.
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to it. Named head coach of
Speaker 1: Texoma FC for the inaugural USL League One season coming
Speaker 1: up in twenty twenty five. So one business card says
Speaker 1: sporting director of Texoma FC. The other business card, or
Speaker 1: maybe on the back of the one that you've already have,
Speaker 1: says head coach, contact numbers and emails the same. I'm
Speaker 1: just going to say it this way, coach, looking forward
Speaker 1: to it. Great that you've added titles. Great that things
Speaker 1: are moving forward there in the Quad Cities, right there
Speaker 1: in Texoma. Thanks for dropping by for a one v one.
Speaker 1: You know we're going to be keeping an eye on
Speaker 1: things and you have an open door policy. Anything going on. Hey,
Speaker 1: wave your hand in the air, sit there and go yo, John,
Speaker 1: I want to talk. It's going to be here for you.
Speaker 1: Great to have you here for a one v one.
Speaker 1: We'll catch up soon, my friend.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, much appreciate it.